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    122 KB Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:14 No.10698641  
    Previous thread: >>10695160

    Year 2163:
    Heavy Freighters 1 & 2 have been converted into Colony Ships 3 & 4 and are on their way to Ares with colonists.
    You have produced ten additional war drones.
    Weyland-Yutani is selling Pandorium engines at $150b a piece.
    Using a transhuman clone of Deidre Skye and a team of transhumans, you send an expedition to Pandora with the permission of the UN. You extract the corrupted samples of everything, including the "Tree of Souls", the supposed heart of Eywa. It's all corrupted beyond repair and most of the DNA has been transformed into gibberish nonsense. Close examination of a few tumours actually reveals funny anomalies: The helixes seem to actually spell out words. "Death", "Decay", "Leviathan", "Serpent", "Ouroboros", you get the picture. There was no sign of Jake Sully either. An Umbral observation of the landscape also reveals massive activity of creatures native to the Umbra, tearing apart the metaphor for Pandora's structure.
    Martian protests are turning into riots as millions of corporate employees walk out of work en masse, claiming that the UN and the corporations are merely exploiting them and not treating Mars like what it is - a whole world apart from Earth.
    A new organization has been created in order to send people who wish to be free of the tyranny of the UN to other systems to create new nations, free of corporations and free of the UN. They are paying handsome sums of cash. Request details, if you wish.
    Pandora will be euthanized next year.

    Balance: $110b
    Income: $635b
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:18 No.10698737
    We need to get our feet on planets before settlers do.

    We need to enlist them to colonize with us.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:18 No.10698743
    Details please.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:18 No.10698748
    Offer this new organization a relationship with us, based upon policies of workers rights and sovereignty. We can become the primary provider for Mars if we play our cards right.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:19 No.10698752
    Too bad about Pandora.

    Can we use what we found to discredit Pentex?

    Fucking Martians.... Hmm I don't think we should interfene.
    What about that corp? Info on it, please.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:19 No.10698762
    Which you know, served them very well, even when faced with massive alien forces that even attacked them at the technological level.

    Having a triple support system like the Magi Should be standard issue for any AI Computing we do. It's relatively efficient, safe, and has good PR possibilities- keeping that HUMAN element in the loop of decision making at all times.

    Is a man not worthy of that which he toils for?

    We MUST not let some corrupt bureaucrat, or simpleton politician take what is rightly ours!

    Militarize Ares is we must, build up our strength until no foe would DARE take what is ours.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:20 No.10698780
    Release the information we gathered, along with our Umbra information, to discredit Pentex. Imply that their use of Umbra around Pandora caused all the damage.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:20 No.10698787

    Oh, that might come in handy. But why that corp?
    We should rather contact the political party, group, whatever.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:20 No.10698788
    sorry not sovereignty, self-determination
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:20 No.10698789
    Did you get the bit about expanding to the next three closest systems?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:21 No.10698801
    Set up in the umbra around ares, start testing anti-umbra creature weaponry fortify the shit out of it when you find out what will work.

    Do the same for everything else.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:21 No.10698818
    Can we get recordings of the Umbra creatures destroying the Pandora-analogue?
    I'm voting to start an Umbral fight. What's Pentex going to say? They can't say anything, otherwised they admit culpability in the destruction of Pandora. Also we should release the data concerning the corrupted DNA, and how it's sure as hell not natural.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:22 No.10698829

    We will gain a major enemy if we do that, though.
    Who know how many military crafts are there in Alpha Centaury. Do we have means to detect Umbra stealth?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:22 No.10698830
    We should get with the times.
    This reeks of Old Earth colonialism and we all know what happened last times it did.

    We should prepare ourselves for the coming storm, fortify OUR planet Ares againts takeovers of any kind, and position ourselves as a major player in the coming games of war.

    We should covertly foster Mars's...disenchantment with Earth.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:22 No.10698846
    Approximately 4,562,000 individuals wish to be transfered to new, habitable planets where they can live off the land as they like without the interference of the UN or the interference of corporations.

    The transfer deadline is 2180. If they're not on their way by then, they opt out of the project.

    The total sum of their wealth that they're offering for this is...


    That's $27,800b.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:24 No.10698866

    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:24 No.10698871
    With that kind of skilled labor, manpower, and our own resources on Ares, we could become a power to rival the UN itself!

    Nay, we could declare independence and rule as our OWN sovereign power!
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:24 No.10698873

    The primordial planet. It's habitable, isn't it?

    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:24 No.10698877
    This is looking more and more like ZotE.

    The mars situation, that is.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:24 No.10698881

    How about the info we found about what they did in Umbra? Eradicating on of the native civs, setting them self up as some kind of gods of destruction? Should we reveal all.

    Also, hacking attempts on Pentex please. Mainly concerning their forces, their assets and atrocities committed in Umbra.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:24 No.10698884
    Buy? no no no, offer to transport them and assist in setting up their first colonies, then take the ships back with you.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:25 No.10698893

    Bah, no government or corporate interference means exactly that.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:25 No.10698894
    Dedicate all possible ships to transporting these people, and build a few more transport ships with the newest security systems to prevent any kind of sabotage or disaster. If we start transporting these guys and a ship goes down, we'll be totally fucked.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:25 No.10698899
    We don't really have anything we can prove yet, though it'd likely be bad pr.
    >> Boomer !!MBwbEofHcyx 06/23/10(Wed)20:25 No.10698905
    Find the origin of the colonization venture. Makes sure they are not a megacorp venture. If megacorp, we set up a competing venture AND send a spy into their midst. Get ready to make claims on all worlds they want to send colonists too. If NOT a megacorp, invest heavily into it until we take it over. Buy it out.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:26 No.10698912
    Also upgrade all of these systems on the other ships being used for this.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:26 No.10698915
    You have recordings of it.
    You lack the technology to do this just yet, you need more Umbral research.
    You lacked the cash to do that. I was going with the requests that others already ordered.
    This is a big call.

    Does everyone really want to release this information?
    To the public or to the UN?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:27 No.10698933
    Dammit, Plasma, you ignore too much.

    We asked few years ago for Morgan to give us territory on Chiron and build a colony. You even said you would go along with it... but I guess you forgot... its easy to miss things in this quest, it goes way too fucking fast.
    >> Halfwot 06/23/10(Wed)20:27 No.10698938
    Ask them if they would like transhumanism.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:27 No.10698944
    >Militarize Ares is we must, build up our strength until no foe would DARE take what is ours.

    Actually, I think that this is an important point.

    Simply put, we're surrounded by utter bastards. Ares is a prime location for colonisation, and with this new Mars movement that makes it a whole lot more valuable.

    We can't rely on our ships currently stationed there. Not because they're not strong enough, but because I for one want to send them to Epsilon Eridani to fuck MNU for killing our colonists.

    That could leave Ares undefended, just waiting for someone to move in and fuck with them. We should look into a dedicated defence force there, maybe a well trained standing army of natives, and defiantly some space based assets.

    I'm thinking we should start of with a battlesation, and then back it up with tons of drones.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:27 No.10698949
    Send them all. Expand as much as is necessary to get them to all of the habitable planets we control by 2175 at the latest. If we need more money for this project, start collecting deposits.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:27 No.10698950
    Aside that we dont have mechas.
    Or Jehuty
    Plasma, I second this.
    However, mobilize as many defense drones and military support craft we have.If we lose even ONE ship , we will lose a potentially huge chance for a PR extravaganza and the support of a new generation.

    Get the Lone Gunmen on it to ensure safety and stop any dangerous situations or infiltrators.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:28 No.10698958
    How about Tau Ceti? It's a virtual paradise, out of the way, and we haven't sunk a lot of money into it yet, relatively.
    Part of the deal though, should be that we get to keep a mining operation and such in the system. We won't interfere with them, but we'll be there if they need someone to bail them out. An escape hatch, in other words.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:28 No.10698960
    It's too dangerous, we couldn't win against them as we are.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:28 No.10698963
    Release it ALL as one big bundle to the public. Don't make and statements. Just release it to the public.

    Let them make up their own minds.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)20:29 No.10698977

    Start leaking it to reliable top UN officals.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:29 No.10698985
    One man can only do so much for something like this.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:29 No.10698989
    We can't possibly send 4.5 mil people in that timespan.
    How much can fully outfitted cryo-ships hold people?

    Of course we could offer them transhumanism and instantly transfer them but I don't know if that will be profitable.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:29 No.10698995
    It's not just the speed, it's that there's too much going on, too much to consider. Maybe, once we've researched it, we can turn over some of our operations to an AI group. A benevolent one.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:29 No.10698996
    It does not appear to be a corporate venture. It honestly seems to be a gathering of the rich and their families and the people that they know and are willing to support. It honestly seems like a through and through attempt to gain some independence of their own.

    Depending on how many you get out of the solar system by 2180, you will get a percentage of that $27.8t.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:30 No.10699004
    If we give it to the UN, it could end up nowhere.

    If it gets leaked to the people, the masses will all turn into sheep against Pentex.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:30 No.10699005
    >Does everyone really want to release this information?

    I'm going to say no. If we can avoid conflict with Pentex until we're ready then we should.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:30 No.10699007
    >>Let Pentex's spin machine make up their minds.

    How about no? I like the release idea, but we need to put it in our light. Ancient cults do not achieve power without being able to spin like a mad DJ on crack.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:30 No.10699015
    Deny. No, we dont want to make TH a common thing. It loses value.

    It's not his fault, this is one of the fastest moving QUESTS- ever.
    And I've seen a lot .
    Second.Fortify Ares!
    It is OURS.

    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:30 No.10699023
    Currently, you're in the process of upgrading all of your ships to colony ships.

    These can carry 1000 people in cryo and 2000 tons of goods.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:30 No.10699025
    This is our only chance. Once Pandora is gone it will fade from the public's memory. We need to strike while these images are fresh.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:31 No.10699030
    I say first to the UN, but that's me being cautious.
    What say the other members of the Board?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:31 No.10699043
    include the evidence of their worship of destruction in with everything else.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699044
    Which means a minimum of 4,256 ships to transport them all.

    Dammit to hell.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699049
    Focusing all of our assets into people transfer, how many can we realistically transfer to Alpha Centauri?

    Also, calling it, DM is going to seceed Mars in 4-7 years and all of our venture will be for naught... AGAIN!
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699050
    Sure, first to the UN works. The UN is the people with the law-making and the huge angry spaceships.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699055
    Based on others replies, I say we release it to the public. We imply that Pentex is involved. Not so much implying, as push the data in that direction. Make the people look at Pentex as an evil corp.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699056
    We're forgetting that such a huge influx of cash means we're BONED, we'd have to give it to STFU, guys.

    We NEED those dummy corps set up, or at least to make some ridiculously expensive venture/project!

    Either build that Long Term, Intergalactic Portal Project, or make Ares into our main base/Planet complete with defenses.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699064
    We've been producing 20 cryo modules 7 of our Earth based construction yards since at lest 2160.

    How many do each of these individually hold.

    All we need are potential colony sites, and then we get them to fund the ships we build in a joint venture (remember we just got those extra construction yards from RDA as well), yeah, we could make a few billion out of this.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)20:32 No.10699068
    Common? They'll be paying 27.8 TRILLIONS to become (not get the tech, just become) transhumans. They'll be paying around 6 million per person.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:33 No.10699071
    But the people are the ones that force change. And stop support Pentex with money.

    Release it wide to everyone.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:33 No.10699080
    Well, we could offer the transports to the highest bidders and transport as many people as possible.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:33 No.10699094
    Oh, right... totally
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:33 No.10699096
    If we could get interstellar portals researched and built by 2179, we could do it. With ships only, It's fucking impossible.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:35 No.10699125
    Oh, don't forget to include the information on "green goo" bomb.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:35 No.10699126
    I'm in favor of supporting the release of Pentex's handiwork, ASAP.

    When this Mars thing explodes- anything Pandora related will be MEANINGLESS.The UN and the Megacorps will crack down due to lack of labor, and bad things will happen.

    I suggest we prepare for the storm, fellas.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:35 No.10699130
    We are currently having all of our Earth based shipyards making Cryo pods, right? How many could we fit in each pod and how many do we have total? Any idea on how feasible it would be to just make one big colony ship and take them all somewhere? I'm thinking something BIG, like, ten's of kilometers in size, just some pandorium engines and a fuckhuge line of towed cryo pods.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)20:35 No.10699131

    Also, this deal would pretty much just include transfer and a morph. Not backups, not immortality, not custom bodies. That shit would cost.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:36 No.10699162
    ...If we knew more about Umbra, we might have been able to slow or even reverse the damage, but it's too late now.
    We made an oath we couldn't keep, and now all we can do is avenge Pandora, for wasted potential more than any sentimentality of course, but still...
    (I know a bunch of people on /tg/ wanted the Na'Vi to die painfully before the planet was cleansed... And the movie was nice looking trash, but this still feels wrong)
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:36 No.10699164
    We don't want to send the Mars colonists to Ares, because that's against their "no corp control" clause. We can give them Tau Ceti instead, as it represents less of our investment, isn't already populated by an indigenous civilization, and won't eventually result in a colonist revolt.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:36 No.10699167

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    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:37 No.10699188
    I'm repeating myself here.

    You will get a percentage of the $27.8t based on how many you transport.

    You will get approximately $6b for every 1000 you transport.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:37 No.10699199
    >It's not his fault, this is one of the fastest moving >QUESTS- ever.
    >And I've seen a lot .
    >Second.Fortify Ares!
    >It is OURS.

    Yeah... I even keep losing track of my own suggestions. DM must be really strained to follow everyone.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:37 No.10699200
    I propose researching larger ships based on a modular design, as well as more efficient cry chambers, having more effective utilization of space, as well as increased comfort if possible.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:38 No.10699211
    It's never too late. It is not the Viking way to accept anything as lost without a fight. We will save Pandora, or we will obliterate Pentex. Perhaps both. This is what we do.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:38 No.10699214
    We have -14- shipyards.We have tons of money.

    We need to capitalize on this venture and get our best men to design a large ship capable of transporting dozens of thousands of people.

    Moreover, if we play our cards right with the engineering, we could retrofit the thing to become a military vessel to support our Ares defenses.

    It's a good idea.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:39 No.10699234
    whoops, cryo chambers
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:39 No.10699247
    I'm liking this idea. But the important question is, will the people accept this? And keep in mind everyone, we don't need to settle them by 2180, just get them out of Sol.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:40 No.10699264
    I am more interested in gaining more colonists than money, but I guess we were doing that before anyway.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:40 No.10699268
    If we were REALLY Vikings, we would never- EVER willingly give up Ares. To anyone.

    Plasma, start developing Ares's defenses and military defense networks.A portal based quick response system would ensure maximum speed and minimum cash expenditures.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:41 No.10699293
    >Megacorps will crack down due to lack of labor, and bad things will happen.

    Meh, we should still gain money from our energy transfer.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:42 No.10699299
    We can't possibly meet the deadline in time with conventional shipbuilding techniques. We have to decide now, if we're going to settle for a percentage of people, or if we're going to offer uploading their minds.
    My vote is for trying to turn construction to a cuper-cryoship.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:43 No.10699333
    I also like the super-cryoship arcdesign idea.
    1, it will have reusability, and 2, we can always retrofit it for other, more military purposes.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:43 No.10699337
    We should just adopt some of their requests and try to gain their trust and business. It would not impact us seriously to make workers happy, and we could make a killing by having exclusive economic relationships with them. Maybe even sell some warships or technology if it comes down to it!
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:44 No.10699346
    I've been suggesting that for several threads, but Plasma is a douche about it.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:44 No.10699355
    We should start agreeing to transport as many of those people as possible, and using the gained funding to construct as many additional construction yards as possible, designing new and larger ships- ten thousand people each? Fifty thousand each?- and then constructing them.

    After we finish transporting these people, we'll be able to use these to found our own new colonies.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:44 No.10699356
    27,800X10^9/4,562,000 = $6093818

    That's six million ninety three thousand and eight hundred and eighteen dollars.

    Each of our, I can only assume many, cryo pods can carry 1000.

    Each pod with a colony to go to is now worth,


    That's six billion,
    ninety-three million,
    eight hundred eighteen thousand,
    five hundred one US dollars.

    I don't remember how much a ship with an interstellar drive costs, but I think we'd need around 10 or so of these to make it pay for itself.

    I don't know if this is economical without further research. We'd probably need them to go for a joint venture to pay for the ships, which reduces our overall profits.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:44 No.10699359
    I'm gonna support this too, if it's possible
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:45 No.10699369
    Have out CY in Alpha Centauri building tons of modular warships. Always. All the time.
    If we release the info, I expect the retribution from Pentex cult
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:45 No.10699377
    Take a lesson from sci-fi in general, not to mention Ace Combat: never put all your eggs in one basket.

    If you're going to build an ark ship, build more than one. Preferably 3-5. That way, if one suffers a catastrophic failure, the rest can either help or continue on.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:46 No.10699392
    Yes, let's insult the guy taking time out of his day to amuse us.

    Anyway, a cut of those trillions is better than nothing, so let's build as many cryo-ships as possible now, and funnel the cash we get from it into interstellar portal research.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:47 No.10699407
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:47 No.10699408
    Actually yeah, I was thinking increasing existing designs, not making an arc or anything. Construction of such a thing would take too long given our deadline.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:47 No.10699410
    I'm not a douche about it. I'm just running an exceptionally slow quest with a lot of math behind it and it's quite difficult for me to keep up with everything.

    However, I have added "larger ships plz" to the research list.

    Right, now I know most of your requests, moving on to 2164.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:48 No.10699432
    Have we been able to miniaturize the standard portal gun?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:48 No.10699436
    Actually, I was implying that Plasma didn't allow it then because he planned this for now. And if we already had a massive colony ship, we'd reap all the benefits.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:48 No.10699454
    Its more likely that he can't just follow everyone requests without seconds and thirds.

    I've been pushing R&D expansion (and espionage department) for several sessions now but FOR SOME REASON NOONE WANTS TO GET BEHIND IT. DAMMIT PEOPLE!
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:50 No.10699475
    No, too expensive
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)20:50 No.10699482
    Uh, I think we have increased our R&D several times and are funneling in something like 10% of our profits into it.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:50 No.10699485
    Espionage departments got up to thirded last thread. What're you up about?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:50 No.10699490
    How feasible is terraforming?

    Can we get to Master of Orion II level of terraforming where we can turn EVERY SINGLE planet into paradise world?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:51 No.10699495
    I'm in favor of giving Aperture Science a not inconsiderable amount of money and just telling them to go nuts with it.
    And yeah, make sure our espionage and security are top notch.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:52 No.10699520
    Not even Ace Combat, just look at SMAC, and that was in-universe. If the unity had been eight ships instead of one that assassin would never of made a difference. Only one ship would of been destroyed and everyone else would of landed and gotten on nicely.

    If we build one of these ships, we need a colony to receive it (it wouldn't look good if millions starved to death on our account) and should really include some sort of escort, but we'll have to talk to the UN about that.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:52 No.10699523
    No, I don't think that happened.

    We need disambiguation of our profits and expenditures ... but I guess it will clutter thing too much?
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)20:53 No.10699538
    Not bad, check how much it would take to fund another "section" of research.

    Well, I guess it is a question of "sooner or later, most probably later"
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:54 No.10699556
    Did we transhumanise all the important people?
    We should also do that to all scientists and give the intelligence enchantments so that they are more competent.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)20:54 No.10699567
    Unless we can expand our Tau Ceti colony only AC will be able to support that.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:54 No.10699570
    Sooner or later, most probably later.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:55 No.10699581
    Let Weyland-Yutani worry about advanced terraforming.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:55 No.10699585
    I reeeeeeeeeeeally doubt it.

    What technologies did THOSE space faring civs had?
    Also, we dont even have FTL yet, dude.

    We're not even a Type 1 civilization on the Kardashev Scale.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:58 No.10699645
    Plasma, could you tell me how much it costs to produce a starship with intersteller drives please?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:58 No.10699659
    No faggot. Look at the earlier threads.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)20:59 No.10699666
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    Year 2164:
    The New People of Ares are spreading exponentially. They have conquered the continent of Lacedaemon and are ready to spread and conquer others with your aid. You are beginning a large production campaign to produce more military goods, as well as mandatory military training for everyone on Ares.
    You inform the UN of the Pentex situation. You tell them what you know of the Umbra, what you know about Pentex, everything.
    Research on Artificial Intelligence is complete - another early breakthrough.
    You have begun the construction of seven colony ships to Tau Ceti.
    The New Colonies organization has recieved response from several corporations, including yourself. Chrysalis, Morgan Industries and Weyland-Yutani. Weyland-Yutani starts a massive new campaign talking about the recent discovery of a habitable terrestrial rogue planet that drifted into orbit of one of their systems. An opportunity!
    The Pandoran Euthanization event is about to begin. The UN is inviting you to a private digital conference. Pentex is also attending. Join?

    Balance: $35b
    Income: $635b
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)20:59 No.10699669

    Yet, at this moment if we didn't have other corps to worry about we could successfully colonize worlds and bring up the population to ~5 billion, essentially giving us our own Planets and giving the possibility to form our own government.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)20:59 No.10699692
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:00 No.10699708
    Attend. Have portal commandos on standby.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:00 No.10699710

    And we should have released the information publicly.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:01 No.10699719
    >10 billion per light year between Earth and its destination.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:01 No.10699727
    >Research on Artificial Intelligence is complete - another early breakthrough


    Ask her how she feels.

    Put her to work in R&D.

    Also consider the "Magi" system one of the anons suggested.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:01 No.10699728

    Let's try and convince those three megacorps to form an alliance. They seem to share some of the same goals as us.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:01 No.10699729
    $10b-per-lightyear you intend for them to travel.

    You currently have three Pandorium engines. If you install them in a starship, they can travel any distance - plus they're for free, after the initial purchase.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:01 No.10699730
    Absolutely. Shit is going to go down, either way. If the UN fucks Pentex, awesome. If the UN does nothing, we get to put them on our enemies list as well.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:02 No.10699742
    Cost of Magi-type tri-AI system?
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)21:02 No.10699748
    We should probably get a program going to gradually replace our navy's engines with Pandorium types.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:03 No.10699760
    Soon, the Principality of Ares will be BORN!

    Awesome on the A.I. research. Now, we;ve all seen the Terminator movies.PLEASE begin research on benign, pro-humanity limiters on their behavior, or at least put some strong safeties research in place.

    We cannot let Skynet Incident occur.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:03 No.10699763


    Also all of our warships and battleships. Increase the surveillance everywhere. As soon as we detect umbra shadows, fire at will (consensus on this?)
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:03 No.10699776
    >The Pandoran Euthanization event is about to begin. The UN is inviting you to a private digital conference. Pentex is also attending. Join?

    I say Yes, unless we can get some kind of PR boost from not attending. Any ideas, fellow Vikings in Suits?
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:03 No.10699777

    And a Rogue planet "happening" to drift into one of their systems? Oh well, it is their crap. Still propose Transhumanity.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:04 No.10699794

    Eh... this came out wrong. I meant introducing ourself to AI and talking to it for a bit.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)21:04 No.10699799
    Shooting any umbras could lead to a diplomatic disaster if an agent tries to enter peacefully, or for the purposes of negotiation, etc.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:05 No.10699814
    >And a Rogue planet "happening" to drift into one of their systems?

    Yeah, I thought that too.
    I hope those aren't Aliens or Predators or whatever
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:06 No.10699821
    Thirded on the Magi System research.
    It's a combination of our neural/biological research and our A.I. recent development, with built in safeties- the human brains will instinctively seek to protect humanity, provided we choose the RIGHT donor brains for the project.(Which we should.)

    Also, treat our new A.I. friend cordially, and welcome her/him into our fold, and get him , willingly if you can to work on research.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:06 No.10699830
    I meant in Alpha Centauri space. Stealth ships appearing suddenly.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)21:07 No.10699845
    Definitely need to get a MAGI system going.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:07 No.10699846
    I'm getting a Yuuzhan Vong feel.

    Random planet appearing on a system?

    Yeah, right.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:09 No.10699878

    Oh, and were we not to call it MIMER (after the guy from Norse mythology who guarded the well of knowledge)
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:09 No.10699887
    Goddamnit, we are THE most self-aware, genre conscious Corporation ever.

    I mean, what's next, do we begin advising our enemies to name their own research projects names like "Skynet"?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:10 No.10699920
    You join the digital conference. It's between Regent and several key members of the UN. His face drops as soon as you guys enter the discussion.

    "So, what are they doing here?"

    "You'll see. In any case, you wanted to negotiate ownership of Pandora?"

    Apparently Pentex is offering several trillion for ownership and also only asks for $50b per Pandorium engine, designed solely for UN starships.

    This is how the UN responds:


    A Weyland-Yutani representative joins the discussion.

    "Judging from the reports we've recieved from SLINT, you're just not trust-worthy. And before you speak, the UN has its own research department. We know all about the Umbra and its secrets, just as they do. You can't fool either of us.

    "We're granting ownership of Pandora to what has been the most productive and trust-worthy corporation so far: Weyland-Yutani. We shall purchase Pandorium engines from then for $25b a ton, which we shall use as we please.

    "SLINT, your job is to ensure that no one else gets their hands on Pandora. You will no longer be assisted in this process by Pentex and if any Pentex starship appears in Alpha Centauri space, you have full authority to shoot it down.

    "However, for security purposes, no military starship that you own that exists in Alpha Centauri is allowed to leave Alpha Centauri - for security purposes. If we detect an armed vessel leaving the system, you will be fined two hundred and fifty billion Do you understand?"

    Well, do you? What are your opinions and do you accept this deal?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:10 No.10699926
    Oh, and we have produced 280 cryostasis modules, since we started there production in 2160, with 140 being produced each year. So 420 by the end of this year.

    We have 17 years until the deal ends. in that time and at current rates of production we could have 2380 cryo modules out. Excluding for the reuse of colony ships (which will depend on where we send them to get started) we're just not going to be able to shift all these people unless we up construction some what, to around 250 each year.

    That's not a huge amount, really. we'd need five or six more construction yards, to meet pod demand alone. And obviously we would have a backlog from when we weren't meeting the necessary output levels.

    I've said nothing of ships, but I think it's 20 modules a pot, with current research the way it is, of course.

    Alright, that's all I think we can say about that then.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:11 No.10699936
    I liked GLaDOS to be fair. It give her personality I can relate to.
    Also, goes along with the roots of our R&D.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:11 No.10699939
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:11 No.10699949
    Bull fucking shit.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:13 No.10699980
    We can have two AI. And I also believe we should go with the Magi system. Plasma, how are our little buddies doing?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:13 No.10699982
    That's bullshit. And unacceptable. We've got other interests in the AC system which can't be voided because of one planet.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:14 No.10699987
    Inquire as to any other pwning that Pentex will recieve. Aside from that, accept, and then find a new place to build a military shipyard.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)21:14 No.10699988
    We should negotiate to change our starship tithe to them, say half stay with us for the purpose of guarding the planet.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:14 No.10700000
    ...I'm fine with it, but could we at least ask why we are trusted to protect Pandora but not own it?
    Also, is the euthanasia still scheduled?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:14 No.10700009
    You do not have any AI currently existing. You have the technology available to create one - and you can either create a biologically based one, using neural networking, or a standard, mechanical one. Your choice, really.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:15 No.10700013


    What the fuck ever for would we accept this deal!?
    WHAT- HOW would we ever- EVER profit from this!?

    Tell them this:

    "We're a corporation. You're giving everything to WY.What is in it for US"
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:15 No.10700015
    Can we get a share on the profit from pandorium? A lil one? Just a bit?

    Also, we must seek alliance with Weyland-Yutinary.

    Oh... Maybe we can have SFTU join this conference too? We'll need our daddies help to counter Pentex.

    >We know all about the Umbra and its secrets, just as they do. You can't fool either of us.
    It seems UN is not as incompetent as we thought.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:15 No.10700020
    Euthanasia still going ahead. Apparently they accept that this is being done for the purposes of profit and really, do not give a shit.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:15 No.10700022
    We have no other assets to use for construction.

    Not to mention Hermes is in AC, and if we want to use it for weaponry it will be difficult under these terms.

    We've been in AC longer than the UN or WY. We'll make sure no one fucks with Pandora, but to block us from manufacturing military grade ships to leave AC is laughable.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:15 No.10700025
    No I'm lazy.

    >However, for security purposes, no military starship that you own that exists in Alpha Centauri is allowed to leave Alpha Centauri - for security purposes.
    Do this "*Coughs laoudly* Oh, I'm sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit."

    "Give us one good reason why we should cripple our extra Alpha Centuri exploration plans"

    Totally fucking second.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:16 No.10700044
    Question, what would you do if we suddenly shut down power from space?

    cause you're screwing us over here and i don't feel we should support you in any way if this is how you're going to treat us.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:17 No.10700050
    How about combine the two? So we have something biological, like some Genetic Lifeform, and something mechanical, like a Disc Operating System
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:17 No.10700053
    Oh, and Plasma? If we get a moment alone with Regent, mention the word "Haglund". I'm sure he'll understand.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:17 No.10700055
    rolled 33 = 33

    Ofer transhumanity to each transportee, after signing a non-disclosure agreement.

    There will be quite a lot of ppl ready to do that if they truly want to be free. The thing of getting a new body at destination has the same chance of you waking from cryo so a lot will opt for it .
    Offer it. Pluss they will pay the same price. Infomorphs

    Go to meating . bea ready for momentous fuck up. if it is a fuckup release the files to the public. through all the news and nets...
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:17 No.10700057
    We're a corporation.
    They are asking us to do something for NO compensation-moreover, if we fucking fail SOMEHOW, we lose MONEY?

    Every risk must have an equally good reward.
    Either they up the ante and give us SOMETHING worth our while, or they can watch our fucking asses depart.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:18 No.10700061
    No, it's not. We will shoot down the ship carrying the bio-weapon regardless of any agreement.

    Don't they understand that it's an illegal weapon? If the UN isn't going to respect its own laws, neither will we. If necessary, we WILL back our principles with force.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:18 No.10700070
    >However, for security purposes, no military starship that you own that exists in Alpha Centauri is allowed to leave Alpha Centauri - for security purposes.

    Nah, this one is unacceptable.

    Also, they do know that Pentex has stealth tech, right?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:18 No.10700078

    AC is our only major center. If they force us to keep war capable ships in system, then fuck that.

    Of course, if they lifted the restrictions on us within the Sol system, we might reconsider.

    As in, no more forced construction for the UN in the Sol System. Any ship we make in the Sol System is ours completely. No service for the UN.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:19 No.10700083
    Well I'm going to put forward one vote for creating a neural network based AI. I mean, we might as well.

    Who's with me.

    We do what we must,
    we can.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:19 No.10700096
    We already told you we wanted to research a Magi System.We have more than 6 votes on it.


    They are applications of our own bio-networking research AND our new A.I. research program.A triple-supercomputer A.I. intelligence with equal voting capabilities- that have a biological brain serving as redundant backups to serve as moderators for behaviours.

    It's brilliant.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:20 No.10700097
    Then why not go for
    >>10700050 ?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:20 No.10700098
    The UN, as always, is being a fucking bitch. We have warships, and they know we do. We do not bow to them. We follow our own path.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:20 No.10700108
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:21 No.10700121
    Why bother making only one? As long as they have no access to anything important other than our research computers, which, by the way, should be completely separate from the corporate system, we can have as many as we want. Hopefully, they'll be delighted to help us to learn new things.
    >> PackageRESPOND 06/23/10(Wed)21:21 No.10700122
    Actually yeah fuck that deal, we can't freeze our production in that entire system.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:21 No.10700123
    I think we've agreed- for ONCE, on two things.

    The Magi System, and a resounding "NO, fuck that, offer us a better deal, or we're out of here" to the UN.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:22 No.10700139
    Every time we think things are going reasonably well, and sometimes when we know they aren't, we get screwed. I know it's part of the quest's formula, and it's actually pretty realistic, but it's also extremely annoying, especially when most of our attempts to prepare for future FUBAR moments result in pretty much nothing.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:22 No.10700142
    Well I agree that we should implement the Magi system.

    I just think that we should go with three of the same type, in case one type proves to be inherently superior.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:22 No.10700146
    Also, send an emergency communique to all our facilities to HIGH ALERT.
    I smell shenanigans.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:23 No.10700169
    Tell them that we have already been attacked by MNU in other system.

    We will not agree on letting out ships reside in the system, we will not play a role of defender. We aren't even getting paid.

    Make sure they understand that UN authority does not stretch all over the galaxy.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:23 No.10700176
    OK, how's this for the terms.

    We will protect Pandora as well as WY and The UN's interests in AC with ships built in AC.

    However, we will be allowed to move our current ships out of system, and the ban will only apply to new ships. Which we will of course build to protect as we say.

    However, the UN will remove current sanctions on us within the Sol system. All ships we build, regardless of weapon capability, are ours, and will not serve the UN. AND, they will not tether us down with similar sanctions in the future. They can not impede the free market.

    If they don't like this, they can try all they like to get to Pandora and the Pandorium. If they want to fight through our horde of ships in system, fine. Also, see how much they'd like to lose our solar power in Sol. And our portal tech.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:24 No.10700199
    "Fine. All military starships that exist in Alpha Centauri must remain in Alpha Centauri. At least half must be dedicated to the Pandoran barricade, allowing- oh, missile impact in three, two, one..."

    You can see the bio-warhead crashing into the surface of Pandora, releasing the virus that will render the planet lifeless into the atmosphere.

    "What was I saying? Right. Allowing the other half of your forces to be elsewhere in the Alpha Centauri system. You see, your star fleet is growing rapidly. We don't like that. We can't risk an attack on the solar system - after all, we're still not sure whether you assisted in the Neptune situation or not. However, if you going to be this disagreeable, we're also willing to remove our warship tithe from you.

    "Additional punishment for Pentex includes a thorough examination of all Umbral technology to ensure it's safe, and we'll keep a close eye on any research that they may be developing in the future.

    "So, what do you say to this deal? No more starship tithe but Alpha Centauri warships stay in Alpha Centauri, with half of them protecting Pandora."
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:24 No.10700200
    ...Time after time we've been nothing but good to the UN and have been the butt of no less than two different concerted sabotage events. Yet we've been punished along with the instigators. Does the UN have a 'no tattletales' policy?
    How much of the Earth's energy do we supply?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:24 No.10700203

    >Make sure they understand that UN authority does not stretch all over the galaxy.

    Also tell them that they cannot hold their shot together in their own system (mars, constant earth wars) who do they think they are to try to regulate other systems at this time?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:24 No.10700205
    Alright, I will say this.

    The deal sucks, but it might be the best we're going to get from them.

    They have our Earth assets at their mercy. That's not good no matter how you look at it. Lets say that we'll do it as long a we're allowed to use our current 4 warships for security for transports heading to the system, in case of vengeful Pentex retribution attacks.

    That's not unreasonable, is it?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:25 No.10700226

    The U.N. might be planning something. Think, things could be going on behind curtains that we cannot see. Who says that the Weyland-Yutani did not bribe the U.N.? They are purposely trying to keep forces locked in place..
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:25 No.10700229
    >You can see the bio-warhead crashing into the surface of Pandora

    Godammit Plasma.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:25 No.10700231

    If we do this, you better prepare you asses for a fight. The UN is already under pressure due to the Mars Incident.We better already twitter(!?) or email our facilities to go into high alert and temporarily shift production to full military defenses.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:26 No.10700250
    "fuck no, you still aren't giving us anything only making demands."

    Give orders for them to shut down portals and power transfer for the next half hour.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:28 No.10700282
    ...I'm okay with this.
    Remember they only banned warships
    With our modular design, it shouldn't take much effort to turn them into transport ships.
    So what if they're transporting weapons which will be equipped by them as soon as they leave the system?
    Technically, they won't be warships
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:28 No.10700284
    I'm pissed enough to declare war on the UN right now, but it's not worth it. Not without preparation.

    This is a megacorporation. Government interference is never appreciated, but this goes above and beyond what we're willing to accept. An orbital strike above the UN building should make our point nicely.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:28 No.10700285
    "We're removing the two hundred billion tithe per decade. That's not enough for you?"
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:29 No.10700295
    Decision time.

    We aint fucking around, and neither are they.

    We're Vikings.We live for this shit.

    All stations on high alert and begin evacuating Earth ASAP?

    The UN is being a douchebag and making us do stuff they have no right to do so.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:29 No.10700307
    >No more starship tithe


    >Alpha Centauri warships stay in Alpha Centauri

    "I'm willing to commit to this, but you have to understand that the galaxy is a dagerous place, we have already lost one colony ship to an unidentified Megacorp operating in Ep. Eridani, if Warships are allowed to leave sol, even after serving with the UN, to look after our other colonies then I will agree."

    That's what I think we should say.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:29 No.10700308
    Their warship thine is hardly a dent in our profits.

    No, we do whatever we want with our ships in non-Earth space. We need them for protection and exploration. We have already been judged for our non-involvement in Neptune incident, you can't use that leverage anymore.
    Also, we are not playing a protector without compensation. I say we ask for 50% of Pandorium profits.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:29 No.10700314
    They have every right as long as they hold the power. The solution to this is obvious.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:29 No.10700317
    "Fuck no it isn't."

    Disable all portal solar facilities around Sol for one hour.

    "You've fucked with us too many times. We're reasonable men and women, and you're about to push us to unreasonable lengths."

    Then give them back their power.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:30 No.10700321
    Not really, that was another bullshit decision you forced down our throats.

    Now you've proven hostile to us, all demands are off, or we shut down essential services.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:30 No.10700324
    Don't be hasty. If we declare ourselves enemies of the UN, we declare ourselves enemies of Earth. Earth, by the way, is what buys our stuff and is the basis of our currency system.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:30 No.10700326
    That's not bad.
    We should accept it for now, really.
    For the moment, I take back what I said.
    Let's accept the deal , and just begin moving the fuck out of Earth in secret.

    We're caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Let's even the odds before we declare independence.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:31 No.10700336
    Let's not go around making threats just yet. We don't want to come around as a bunch of greedy corp types like Pentex and RDA. I say take the deal, but I also want to see what Pentex has been researching. Request to be part of the UN investigation on Pentex. We want to see what they've been up to.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:31 No.10700337
    Belay that.
    Agree for now.
    Trust me, dude.
    We're Vikings, but we're not stupid.
    Take the deal, and prepare for war.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:31 No.10700348
    OK guys, I think we should take this deal.

    It's just that this early in the quest going to war with all the other Megacorps and the UN (don't forget they still have a seizable fleet) is probably the fastest way to GAME OVER.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:32 No.10700361
    Here's what we need to work on.

    Ship to ship missles, bult of portal edged metal to make them easily capable of breaching ship hulls.

    They are filled with Hermesium. The Hermesium will burn up wildly inside enemy ships, burning the ship itself, but more importantly, just destroying their air supplies.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:32 No.10700365
    No, it isn't reasonable, they're clearly acting hostile, and they do now hold the "power", we do, litterally.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:33 No.10700371

    Listen 200bil$ a decade is damn small amount of pay considering what you are asking from us. We aren't going to leave our ships there when there are hostile corps all over the place (MNU destroying our colony ship)

    Also, we need % from Pandorium mining from 20-50%
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:33 No.10700372
    I'd like to do this, but we are businessmen, throwing a tantrum will only make things more difficult. Just keep an eye on Weylend-Utani for when they fuck up. If we keep ourselves more or less ethically sound, sooner or later we'll be the most reliable group.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:33 No.10700374
    *do not hold
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:33 No.10700375
    I do think that we should try to push for the right to buy Pandorium engines as well.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700395
    I think we've agreed for now to accept the deal.

    The UN's not gonna budge easily, and to be honest- we need to be careful.Weyland Yutani's manipulations are now evident , and while I was agreeing to go to war...

    Let's not.


    Let's accept the deal for now.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700397
    What makes you think Plasma isn't goading us into a conflict as part of the second arc?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700398
    I don't think you understand how much of a hold our power supllying really has, we're talking about most of the planet here.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700402
    Oh, banning "WARships" I see?

    Okay, we'll just build "carriers", "dreadnoughts", "titans"
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700405
    Remember "Modular"
    We are going to be rules-lawyering dicks about what defines a warship and twist it to our favor.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700408
    No. We have not.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:34 No.10700410
    rolled 50 = 50

    "we actualy have no incentive to protect pandora" smile,
    " we did it to negate it's resources to any competing company"

    If we are not friends with wayland ad this:
    "As they are restricted and wayland yutani have the grip on it, well you are on your own"

    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:35 No.10700419
    Also, lower the penalty for losing a ship or letting it escape.We're vikings and brave, but not fucking retarded.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:35 No.10700421

    Accept the deal, and set up to spy the fuck out of W-Y's efforts.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:35 No.10700432

    Also, this is gonna piss off most of the entire earth population if we suddenly cut their power. And who is going to blamed? Exactly...
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:35 No.10700440
    >All military starships that exist in Alpha Centauri must remain in Alpha Centauri

    I don't get it. Does that mean new ships are free to go?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:36 No.10700444
    The primary UN representative is about to blow his head off at you before the WY representative makes an offer. Meanwhile, Regent's screen goes off. Clearly, he's had enough for now.

    "Hang on a second. How about this - if you assist us in the Pandoran blockade, we'll offer you two hundred billion per annum. It's barely a dent in our current profits, let alone what we'll be making in the future - and well, as a subsidiary, that's got to be at least half of what you're making right now.

    "So, what do you say? In addition to the current deal, two hundred billion per year. I don't think you can ask for more than that fairly, can you?"

    The UN representative fumes at you while the WY one waits expectantly.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:36 No.10700454
    It doesn't much matter, since they'll have no bloody power.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:36 No.10700456
    Why are you guys screaming TRAP?
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:37 No.10700463
    That means all that exist now and in the future.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:37 No.10700465
    That is acceptable.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:37 No.10700470
    I'm just one poster, and if the broad consensus is to draw ourselves into conflict with the UN, WY, Pentex, MNU, Tyrell, and even Zorg (not to mention the Earth superpowers, fuck with their electricity and NO ONE is ever going to want to use our shit, it's going to be a PR nightmare) then I'll have no choice but to agree.

    But I strongly suggest that we don't do this, yet.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:37 No.10700477
    Take it.

    Also, become very concerned at the fact that -200- billion per annum is NOTHING to them.

    Become very scared.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700485
    Sure thing.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700486
    Accept deal already. The UN CAN AND WILL hurt us if we keep pushing them.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700490
    Heh, he doesn't realise we're bigger than he thinks.

    Hmm, see if we can get the possibility to mine pandorium for our own use (non-selling) or at least buy directly on the spot for reduced prices.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700493
    Fuck these guys. Both of them. We need a space where we can construct our own warships without interference.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700498
    We can not ask for much more than this.

    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700499

    We are most likely being goaded into a fight. Or doing something drastic in order to get our point across.
    One that should NOT be done is cutting the power to earth. EVEN FOR A FEW MOMENTS. THIS IS A NO GO.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:38 No.10700500

    I prefer % gains. 5-10%
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:39 No.10700518
    They're a megacorp, not that suprising actually. Still, we should drive it up. At least 300
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:40 No.10700525
    No war. Not yet. Take the deal, and ramp up construction of fucking everything. In a decade or so, we make our move, either moving out of Sol entirely or taking the system.

    Remember, we can't discount STFU's involvement in this fiasco. There may be a simple reason everyone is always one step ahead of us. I suggest we direct espionage efforts into STFU's operations.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:40 No.10700526
    Yeah, let's accept the deal and move along with the plot.

    We've calmed down a bit.
    We're NOT going to be goaded into an obvious trap that WY has obviously manufactured.

    Let's make preparations for long term defense of Pandora, and of course, making Ares something that can resist EARTH"s burgeoning penis.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:40 No.10700534
    We have other colonies, this is a set back. Nothing more.

    We will rebuild, we will rise again. Right now we should be glad that we have some extra income and don't have to worry to much about Pentex fucking Aries.

    No, we only have to worry about them fucking everything else we own.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:40 No.10700544
    >That means all that exist now and in the future.

    I don't like this. I don't like this at all.

    ALL of our industry and production is based there. We had to move from Earth for that. What now? We move from AC?

    We don't have anywhere to go right now.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:41 No.10700547
    Go for it.
    Also, how feasible is it to have our warships converted into transports, only to have a re-conversion system right outside their jurisdiction?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:42 No.10700563

    Ares, motherfucker.
    We've been talking about making it our homebase for a while.
    Let's take this seriously and make Ares our real capital base, away from WY, Earth, and all those other dickheads.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:42 No.10700567

    That is about 1/3 of our ENTIRE INCOME.
    And that is a DENT for them.
    We need to get boots on Pandora and start mining resources.
    Or soon we WILL BE outgunned on all fronts as Wey-land...
    OH MY GOD.
    Is Weyland corp building a system crushing fleet with with the money they are getting? Simply somewhere else with the money they are getting? As with the profit thing..
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:42 No.10700571

    Our parent corp intentionally sabotaging us? That's a little odd, if you consider profit motive.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:42 No.10700575
    Ask UN if they have Umbra shadow detecting technology.

    If so, we want that.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:43 No.10700586
    Well I think that settles it then.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:43 No.10700594
    Frankly, I don't believe W/Y can be making that much profit ahead of us. We supply energy to practically the entire solar system, for God's sake.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:44 No.10700600
    Accept some sort of deal.



    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:44 No.10700609
    We'll be fine.
    We need to diversify our actions, and only use AC facilities specifically for resources in that area-

    We need to strengthen our other colonies, specially Ares.We also need to keep our development a secret.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:44 No.10700611
    You seem to want to accept the deal.

    With that, the video conference ends with the UN representative looking like he's about to burn the WY one alive. Still, Weyland-Yutani's guy looks pretty self-assured and confident about it all, seeing as he offered you more cash than small countries make without breaking a sweat.

    Over the next few days, Pandora's ecosystem disintegrates. All that is left is a barren, dead sphere, hovering in space.

    One last thing before next year, then.

    How do you wish to make your AI?

    Make three, as per the MAGI system? Make one?

    Biological or mechanical?

    $10b per AI, regardless of material.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:45 No.10700622
    We're a subsidary, we got a few incomes on the side (among them the energy market).

    They are a Megacorp. They control thousands of companies all over the world, doing everything possible.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:45 No.10700631
    What the hell are you talking about?

    Ares, just as Pandora and Hermes, is situated in Alpha Centauri system.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:45 No.10700632
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    We're already pushing to be a part of their Pentex investigation scheme.

    We fucked Pentex, but stealing their tech is another thing all together.

    Oh, and is anyone one for having a sending Pentex a message?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:46 No.10700639
    After that deal, what's the status on our ship building rights?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:46 No.10700640
    Group of three, two mechanical, one biological, that way no matter what they get infected with they can't have complete control taken.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:46 No.10700642
    We need to more focus on consolidating our position and alliances. Just focus on Ares and possibly opening relations with Morgan Industries and now the new Chrysalis Corporation.

    With pretty much everybody trying to fuck us over, we need at least a few people that we can trust.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:46 No.10700646
    True, but remember, with infinite power, comes cheaper prices, and it places us in a bad position.If we cut power, suddenly Earth becomes our enemy.

    They might want to overtake us and put us under the UN, which I'm sure the UN wants. We're too important to leave in Corporate hands.On the other hand, W/Y is obviously manipulating the UN.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:46 No.10700650
    Tau Ceti, other than AC and the Solar System.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:47 No.10700676
    Urgh, fucking stupid.

    We should have at least talked with STFU before accepting.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:47 No.10700680
    Ep Eridani, at 10.5 Light years.

    Though Tau Ceti is already settled and is only a bit futher away, at 11.9 Light years, if we're going to re-outsource our production, that might be the best place.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:47 No.10700685
    And WY. Especially since they control the Pandorium now. And they'll want good relations since we control AC... airspace? Spacespace?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:48 No.10700689
    How about this?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:48 No.10700693
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:48 No.10700694
    - Military ships in the Solar System must serve in the UN star fleet for 6 years after construction.
    - Military ships entering the Solar System are boarded and confiscated by the UN. Offending parties are also fined for $250b.
    - Military ships in Alpha Centauri cannot leave Alpha Centauri.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:49 No.10700712

    Make three, as per the Magi System, all part of the same support system, with the biological personality interface system we've perfected, to create the EVA style Magi- 3 AI's supported by Human Brains chosen for their humanity, their logic, and their ethics.

    Build it on Ares.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:49 No.10700719
    Think you meant trade ships on that first one.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:49 No.10700720
    quest cancer
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:50 No.10700723
    I am still not sure about WY, especially with their latest offer. The fact that they were willing to make that offer in the first place so the agreement will be mutually beneficial may mean they have nothing against us. But at the same time I still don't trust them after the stunt they pulled to gain control of Pandora.

    We should at least try to be civil with them.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:50 No.10700726




    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:50 No.10700728

    this was fucking awful.

    I suggest funding Mars secession. Lets see how they will deal when there are two major players in space politics.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:50 No.10700729
    rolled 51 = 51

    No to the money. Yes to some percentage of pandorium!

    Be smart.

    We need those friggin engiens in the future
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:50 No.10700739

    And then build a permanent defense fleet around the planet along with the highest security possible.
    A.I.s like that are gonna be extreme high importance targets for ANY competitors.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:50 No.10700741
    We can build any thing we want, really.

    AC can build military ships, though that would be seen as a fully hostile military build-up and probably provoke a respones like this one.

    In Sol we CAN STILL build warships, but they must serve 6 years in the UN fleet before they're released for our use.

    Obviously, there's no restriction on unarmed vessels.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:52 No.10700770
    Yes, how great. Now we can't even send military ships to escort/protect our assets. Expect MNU, Pentex, Tyrell fucking with everything we own.

    No way, we should have agreed to their proposition.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:52 No.10700777
    We should also begin making Mars secede, albeit COVERTLY. Nothing to trace it back to us.NOTHING.

    Let's make the UN pay for fucking with us.
    Anything they lose, we gain. Disenfranchised people become exellent skilled laborers on a world that offers them good pay and a new world to visit.

    Let's make Ares the NEW World of Tomorrow!
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:52 No.10700779
    Got it.

    Anyway, I'll be accepting requests here for next week, but I'm done for the night. Didn't get as far as I wanted and it's been subpar really. Sorry for not being as good as I've been before but I hope you folks enjoyed it anyway.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:52 No.10700781
    No, military ships built in or entering sol space are seized. it was trade ships that needed to serve the term.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:52 No.10700783

    You just raped the shit out of us.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:53 No.10700798
    Fuck you, I'm done with this shit.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:53 No.10700810
    Well, it's not like we're ever going to trust any corp fully... I mean, not even MI.

    Also, remove any interstellar engines from the AC warships and replace with intrasystem drives. Make some transport hulls for the remaining engines and send back to Earth to pick up cargo/cryo units.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:54 No.10700819
    And if we increase Modular research, it shouldn't be difficult to convert ships one way or the other.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:54 No.10700825
    Oh I had tons of fun, bro.
    It's getting tense and heated, and we have actual ENEMIES worth a damn, and a fast moving story.

    To be honest, this is going good.
    And I;m sincerely hoping this doesnt go like IRON QUEST, which our friend CPU died on us.

    So take your time, man.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:54 No.10700828
    >I suggest funding Mars secession.

    I'm personally all for this. We have a fuck ton of cryo pods, if we're not going to build ships for them then at lest we should sell them to other Megacorps who're looking to support the exodus.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:54 No.10700831
    It's alright. It was fun as usual, and I eagerly await the next installment.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:55 No.10700846
    Build many AIs

    Put them on Earth and all kinds of space installations. When the time comes we will utterly fuck them all up.
    Proceed transhumanasing people.

    operation Phase Eclipse is go. We will fuck them all up.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:55 No.10700853

    Dude, it's fine.Is this your first Quest?
    Most quests have this problem, where the DM caters only to the players, and the players become godlike, and it gets BORING really fast without a challenge.

    This one actually has a random element to it. and it's fun.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:55 No.10700857
    Seconding GLaDOS, because we haven't tempted fate enough by actually dealing Pentex significant damage.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:55 No.10700860
    Already archived Y/N

    Too lazy to check.
    >> Tyr's Right Hand 06/23/10(Wed)21:56 No.10700868
    Right then, things are looking bleak and it's always obvious we're playing in a league with bigger guys. Still, I like it. I'll be around next week.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:57 No.10700890
    Relax. Pentex is getting it far harder than you. An entire decade of planning, gone to waste, all of their research, in the hands of the UN and the eyes of the UN on their every fucking move.

    The UN is just as paranoid and just as powerful as any megacorporation and they will not allow any threat to them to exist.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:57 No.10700891
    No, its been good.

    We got bogged down in this UN-WY-pentex thing but next week we have less to worry about.

    Well, except for Pentex and this rouge planet shit. But hopefully we can progress a bit more.

    Thanks again.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:57 No.10700901
    Even though that program with the people who wanted to leave Sol was to avoid corporation interference, maybe we can set up another offer that we will create colonial cities on Ares where people can migrate there for a significantly cheaper cost. Say that we will maintain basic infrastructure but besides that allow the colonists to live without our interference.

    At face value it would look like a PR stunt where we are helping people who want to colonize new worlds, but it will instead be an attempt to bolster the population of Ares so eventually once it becomes strong enough by itself we can move our corporate HQ permanently over there.

    Hell, maybe even later we can try to rally the colonial cities and try to gain independence. So instead of being a corporation, we will be a planetary government. An entire world with a booming human population with an integrated Aresian population. With the backing of a fully colonized and self sustaining planet, we will definitely be able to get shit done. Fuck Earth, man.

    Though this will probably take decades to happen.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:58 No.10700916
    >just as paranoid and just as powerful as any megacorporation

    Which is great, because there are more megacorps than there are UNs.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)21:59 No.10700937

    I meant making the planet itself independent.

    Also, speed up with Ares uplifting. Have them reach Earth level and possibly surpass it, then we can say "fuck off" to UN as they would have absolutely no authority on alien race.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)21:59 No.10700948
    Nah, done two before this, really. One turned out pretty well, one lost steam and died.

    Anyway, still making notes. I'll make sure you guys fund the Martian secession.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:00 No.10700956
    The U.N. is stupid, we were fine with things up till they started trying to punish us for bringing acts such as what happened to pandora up to them.

    Now they've made themselves an enemy and one that they can't really deal with, we have a stanglehold on inter-sol power and transportation.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:00 No.10700961
    Yeah okay, but lets make sure to treat the Aresians as equals and not do to them what... humans have done to every indigenous population they can.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:00 No.10700966
    FFFFFFUUU-... game ended before finished typing. Oh well, maybe next week.

    Twas fun
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:01 No.10700981
    We'll be fine.

    Plasma already began building our New Magi A.I. system, designed to support our R&D for the future, and when it becomes stable and efficient enough to trust with security and such, we will have a better chance of dealing with hacking intrusion than before.

    Moreover, we have the upper hand in the short term. Establishing mining operations will take time, and we will make money doing our job, which we are good at-defense.

    We take this time to build up ARES and make sure we have shipyards and defenses elsewhere?We'll be golden.

    Also, Kudos if we prepare our own bases on Earth System with self-destruct mechanisms.

    If they fuck with us- BOOM. Earth has no power for quite a while.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:02 No.10701011
    Also- we need another colony.Ares is fine, but they are uplifted aliens.

    We need our OWN planet.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:02 No.10701012
    Or transportation, don't forget the lack of easy transportation.

    And yes, I agree with the self destructs in all our facilities.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:03 No.10701023
    I always figured that we were trying to mold the Aresians into our bro-tier alien comrades. Like said someone said earlier, a client race of sort. Fully integrated into our society and treated as equals.

    Since yeah.. every other attempt at subjugating an alien race in fiction always ends terribly, so why not make them willingly join us instead?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:04 No.10701042
    Yes, but why the fuck are WE getting punished, AGAIN? What the fuck did we do? We even went out of our way to gather the evidence about Pentexes misbehavior. However you put it, there are no justifications for this.

    Just because we have military assets in other system? I'm sorry, we are not the only ones who have them, how about MNU, MI, or any other corps? Do they get sanctions? No, they don't.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:04 No.10701046
    Both threads are archived:


    Vote them up, tell your friends and family, ect.

    Well we hit the big one O, albeit that it took one more thread than it should of.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:04 No.10701047
    It's been four decades and we only have bases in two star systems besides Sol. We need to start painting our ships red or something.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:07 No.10701102
    I TOLD you all.
    Last thread, I TOLD you.

    We're in the road of going all Principality of ZEON.
    You didnt believe me, didnt you?Rebellions, UN being a douchebag, corporations being more powerful than the government?

    We're like a few steps away from going all "SIEG SLEIPNIR" and dropping a colony on earth.

    Are we gonna make Mobile Suits too?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:07 No.10701106

    Don't forget on making lots of AI infiltrators in every aspect of UN and Earth culture, governments, warships, space stations and stuff.

    Also, info-morphs and stuff

    If they try something again, we just destroy all the have.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:09 No.10701143
    I am all for that now.

    Before, I even thought helping USA and UN but now... no.

    Speaking of USA. How did the war go? Or is it still going? Man, that would be the longest fucking war then.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:09 No.10701156
    Not without self-destruct mechanisms.We dont want them getting caught and our tech being reverse engineered.Plus any REAL Magi system like we asked Plasma to do would be huge.

    THREE Supercomputers backed by Organic Support Systems ?That's gonna be huge.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:10 No.10701158
    I think it's because, thanks to Aperture Science, our proportions of size to power is off the charts. We have the biggest and most advanced fleet the UN know of, thanks to Portals we have nigh-infinite energy. Face it man, we're scary.
    Also, for AIs I vote we make GLaDOS and the Magi. We can afford it, and I think that they'll pay for themselves within only a couple years, and then they'll make us a lot more money.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:10 No.10701163
    You're building a large military force in the most commonly observed system outside of the Solar system. The UN is extremely paranoid about this after your previous involvement with the Neptune incident.

    Also, you entered a deal with an isolationist organization that wishes to leave the dominion of the UN. That's another point against you in the eyes of the UN.

    Also, as far as the UN is away, your most valuable resources are in Alpha Centauri. You've got no reason to move your forces elsewhere, in their opinion, so this is just insurance that you don't.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:11 No.10701203
    Unless we have Minovsky particles, there's really no point is there?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:12 No.10701222
    hey, Plasma, small question.
    Considering our resources and the building of the New GlaDOS and Magi systems....

    Can we actually make something like the SDF 1 yet?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:13 No.10701232
    Hey, we were framed for Neptune. And since when is the UN so worried about people leaving?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:13 No.10701247
    >so this is just insurance that you don't.

    Consensus seems to be opposed to things.

    As it stands, it looks like we're going to be securing our shit against intrusion in AC, laying out plans for colonisation in both AC and TC, which means we'll have to move construction yards to TC.

    I imagen the UN won't like this. But unless we start building a huge military force there they can't really complain to much.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:14 No.10701255
    Speaking of military forces.

    Can you tell us how strong are other rivals and UN in military aspect? (I mean, from what we can observe. Pentex should have much more ships in Umbra. MNU has base in that one system, etc)
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:15 No.10701283
    Still, no one could really come to a conclusion about who or what did the Neptune incident. As for why they're so worried about people leaving? As long as corporations have assets on Earth and in the solar system, they have a fairly large amount of control over you.

    As soon as you leave entirely, you're not longer under their control. Anything and everything could happen.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:17 No.10701311
    About the AI's and the transhumanism... could we go on at a higher level of reserch and get something like Cortana?

    Masive Researcher brain clones FTW
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    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:18 No.10701340
    As long as our energy transfer portals and portal infrastructure remain in-system, we'll have a stake in the future of Sol. Sol grows, more money for us.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:19 No.10701354
    You can already create Cortanas.
    The UN is going to majorly crack down on Pentex in every way you can imagine.

    As for the MNU, you are unaware of the relationship there and what's going on in Eridani Epsilon.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:20 No.10701383
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    You want to make a kilometer long warship that is capable of turning into a giant robot?
    First lets start making ships of that size that are specifically not designed for combat, but can easily be modified for war. ...How much money would rich yuppies of the future pay for an Interstellar Cruise?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:20 No.10701385
    >Also, you entered a deal with an isolationist organization that wishes to leave the dominion of the UN. That's another point against you in the eyes of the UN.

    What was that UN said about self-determination of people?
    Something like this I think:
    >Chapter 1
    >2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;

    So what, they are going against their most important principal of giving the right to people to self-determine and if they want to give them right of their own government and territory ?

    Throw the charter in their face. If people want to secede it is their BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:22 No.10701422
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    We are not seriously going to try for giant robots in space are we?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:22 No.10701424
    Plasma, when and/or will you be starting Corp Quest again?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:22 No.10701429
    Thats good.

    But I meant the military strength of UN. Like how many ships they have, if they are more advanced then ours, how strong they are, etc..
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:23 No.10701432
    The UN has repealed the Charter.
    In the Grim Darkness of the 22nd Century, there is Only the UN.

    Pray they do not alter basic human rights further.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:24 No.10701454

    What is Cortana?
    And please do not refer to wiki, just give small explanation.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:25 No.10701467

    Well, we NEED to have them, bro.
    Didnt you read Plasma's text? Out there in deep space, anything is possible!

    What happens if this guy comes?

    Then you're gonna be like, "Man, I wish I had a SDF 1'ss"
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:25 No.10701486
    Several megacorporations refuse to use the power that you supply. They own a sizable percentage of territory in the solar system. Also, the South American Alliance and India refuse to as well.

    As for the result of the war between the United States of America and the South American Alliance, Columbia is the 62nd state of America. The USA also wanted dominion over Venezuela but they couldn't get it, it seems. Primary reason for the war is that America was quite terrified of a major power suddenly popping up just South of it.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:26 No.10701499
    The AI from Halo. Master Chief's buddy.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:27 No.10701511
    >As long as corporations have assets on Earth and in the solar system, they have a fairly large amount of control over you.
    >As soon as you leave entirely, you're not longer under their control. Anything and everything could happen.

    So what?

    Should have thought before going "lol, Capitalism, Free market, give all the power to corporations, derpe herpety derp"

    They should have seen this coming a mile away.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:27 No.10701516
    Essentially Cortana is a self-aware computer program that is capable of learning new things about a variety of topics with no discernible limit, at the cost of said knowledge actually degrading her into non-functionality within a matter of years.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:27 No.10701518
    Oh, they have the right to secede.

    Doesn't mean that the UN likes it.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:27 No.10701532
    >adding states by conquest

    Plausible, I guess.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:28 No.10701554
    Now I'm curious. Has there ever been a case where a country basically went fuck you to the UN and left? What did the UN do?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:29 No.10701558

    Was it super advanced or something? Was she sapient or/or sentient?
    I remember that she was just annoying.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:30 No.10701585
    They've got six warships constructed by you, one supermassive defensive space station constructed by you and around two hundred war drones constructed by MNU.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:30 No.10701589
    >at the cost of said knowledge actually degrading her into non-functionality within a matter of years.

    ...Why? This seems a serious flaw which I wouldn't associate with AIs
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:31 No.10701600
    Yeah bro.
    A Highly Advanced AI capable of self adapting, improvisation, learning and intuitive leaps and creativity?

    That's like the Holy Grail of computing.It would revolutionize the world. And some people believe it would make mankind reach something called the Singularity.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:31 No.10701606
    You speak of the UN as a single entity, but in reality, it's composed of an association of member states.

    How many nations are on the Security Council, and could we sway them?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:31 No.10701611
    Thats it?

    And, hey, what did they think of supermassive defense station? I suppose it should have surprised them alot.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:32 No.10701631
    In modern term 5:
    Russia, USA, China, France, UK.

    We could sway Russia, maybe.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:33 No.10701633
    It's called Rampancy. After a number of years, the AI becomes so absorbed in thought - about itself, about the nature of everything, philosophical stuff - that thinking takes up more and more of its processing power, its memory, eventually causing its vital functions to fail. It thinks itself to death.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:34 No.10701649
    Well, we are not sharing that. Fuck them.

    We'll lead Ares and/or our own planets into singularity and transhumanism.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:34 No.10701657
    In addition to those five, there are 6 other members who change every so often. The five listed are permanent members of the Security Council.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:34 No.10701661
    Man, fuck that shit.

    I hope our AI is better than that.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:36 No.10701685
    Why doesn't India want to use it?

    Is it because of Russia, China, and, what was it, the Islamic Union? I mean, they all use it so maybe India just hates it because their enemies like it.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:36 No.10701687
    Different kind of AI so probably.

    Those are just "smart" AIs in universe, they have absolutely no programming shackles.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:37 No.10701693
    Essentially, it begins to allocate all its processing power towards intelligence, instead of maintaining coherency. things like their memory becomes so convoluted they begin to form infinite feedback loops.
    Before that though, they tend to become murderously insane.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:38 No.10701726
    In terms of the major players in the 22nd Century:
    The United States of America
    The South American Alliance
    The European Union

    Of course, there are still some internal conflicts and strong arguments, but when someone leaves the UN, it means that none of the six have influence over them. None of them are in control. They can't really have that.

    It's 3:40 AM, I'm sweating like a horse and I am tipsy. I might not be making sense.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:39 No.10701746
    Remember Plasma, we especially asked to have backdoors in every ship we had constructed for UN. We should put out AIs our info-morphs into them as sleeper agents.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:39 No.10701755
    >We'll lead Ares and/or our own planets into singularity and transhumanism.

    Don't you mean transhumanism/transaresianism?
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:40 No.10701763
    Well, you've got to accept life is a compromise.
    An A.I. with no learning limitation shackles can outperform another AI in intuitive leaps and such, but there's also a greater reach of the A.I. suddenly going

    And then, if you're not lucky, the A.I. suddenly might go all Skynet on your ass.

    Shackling an A.I. and putting limits in it is for it's own good as well as ours.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:40 No.10701764
    Kind of makes me wonder how cortana will go down, I mean rampancy isn't a definite thing, nor is the thinking themselves to death, it's just an average of 7 years, not an absolute.

    On the other hand, cortana has absorbed far more information than she should have by that age.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:40 No.10701772
    The process was alleviated in later models I think.
    Also of note is that "Smart" AI aren't really AI. They're actually a modified form of transmuting a human brain into programming. For ethical reasons in Halo at least the Brain was a copy, but the "Smart" AI are still 'imprints' of a human thought process.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:41 No.10701803
    Oh, yeah, I forgot the seventh. Islamic Union, yeah.

    But, yes. It's essentially a case of "well, I'm not using it, I'd rather destroy their power source than use the same one". Then the other nation goes "well, they might attack it, so I'll defend it, blab blab blab". You get the picture. Such reliance on a single power source is a weakness that can be exploited.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:42 No.10701826
    I know how you feel. It's 26.8 Degrees C in my room and I'm down to my trousers and nothing else. What is it about the summer? Even night is boiling.

    I don't remember what came of this but I don't think it was implement in the end.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:42 No.10701828
    Not to mention she got raped by the Gravemind or something along those lines. Ew.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:44 No.10701866

    They are refusing cheap, clean energy for that? They could still leave other methods of energy and use energy transfer .. but its their call, screw them.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:46 No.10701892
    >Such reliance on a single power source is a weakness that can be exploited.

    Humm, they're wiseing up. Luckily, I doubt they'd expect the one to be responsible to be the friendly Viking megacrop who runs it all.

    Man that was hot.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:49 No.10701944
    I am going to plead DM for making more thread again.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:50 No.10701964
    Skynet? I think with Aperture Science we already know exactly what happens when an AI runs rampant.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)22:51 No.10701969
    Nah, I've had enough GMing for the night.

    I recently bought STALKER and it's been hovering in my mind throughout the entire time. I've been constantly thinking "ENOUGH QUEST SHIT, IT'S TIME TO PUT ON YOUR UKRAINIAN FACE AND CAP SOME BLOODSUCKAS".
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:52 No.10701999

    I SHOULD get to gaming too.
    I want to download STALKER and get OL on it.
    Or something else, if someone says it's just as good.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:53 No.10702011
    I meant more often than once a week ...

    but yeah, STALKER is a good counter argument, have fun with it
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)22:57 No.10702061

    Here you go, uploaded OL 2.1.1 for ya
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:02 No.10702134
    Thanks, bro.
    I like DDL more nowadays rather than going through torrents.

    Getting panicky at "CEASE AND DESIST" letters my friends got.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:03 No.10702154
    Got an idea!

    SEXBOT AIs for the Transhuman Playboy/Girl.

    Good idea? Y/N
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)23:05 No.10702178
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:06 No.10702193
    Sounds like both at the same time.

    Sexbot transhuman AI? Hot.

    Rogue AI let loose in a colony of more or less defenseless transhumans? Probably a bad thing.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:08 No.10702236
    Darn. But would it sell anyways? This is the future, ethics are probably low in the general population.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:11 No.10702290
    First thing obviously.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:12 No.10702308
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    I don't know if MI operates any warships, but here's a model if they do. Toned down the color a bit so it looks less like BEES IN SPACE.
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)23:12 No.10702321

    Just because an inn keeper would likely give you a room in exchange for sex, doesn't mean that you do exactly that in a RPG.

    There's roleplaying and there's creepy.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:13 No.10702324
    >Talking about Cortana
    >> Plasma !UHUuLXLjhk 06/23/10(Wed)23:14 No.10702353

    Not MI, but I can think of another faction that could use an altered version of that model.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:14 No.10702354
    This is 4chan.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:14 No.10702358
    Not to mention that we're a megacorporation.
    We specialize in ships, military technology and cutting edge stuff.

    Small scale applications like porn is beneath us, and it would be very weird if companies like Lockheed Martin suddenly made sexdolls.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:17 No.10702400
    >Lockheed Martin

    I would pay good money for an SR-71-tan.
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:18 No.10702415
    >aerospace company
    >> Anonymous 06/23/10(Wed)23:40 No.10702766
    Can a drawfriend draw Ares, I have hard time imagining how they look like (yes, I read the fluff)
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)00:15 No.10703375
    For the idiot clamoring to have the Mars secessionists relocated to Ares: that planet is already inhabited! It has a native population that we've been helping for the past several years! It's within relative spitting distance of UN military reprisal! AND THE SECESSIONISTS DON'T WANT CORP INTERFERENCE! THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH US AFTER RELOCATION! THEY WILL FIGHT US ON THAT GODDAMN PLANET YOU FUCKING MORON!
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)00:19 No.10703452
    Well, not us directly, but maybe a small wholly-owned subsidiary.

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