In B4 Gato and Kelly with beam bazookas.

You and Ramba Ral are currently leaving Side 3 space, heading towards what (for you) is the far side of the moon in your Zanzibar class ships Outer Heaven and Madagascar.
You both possess full MS compliments on your ships, you have a bevy of bleeding edge experimental mobile suits (plus a Bygro MA in the MA pod) whilst Ramba Ral's team consists of more tried and true suits, including a Rick Dom for him, and F2's for mostly everyone else.

At full speed, you should make it to Von Braun in 11 hours, assuming all goes well.
Hah.

ANY ORDERS AT THIS POINT?

>>10113688

Don't be silly.

If anything Kelly would probably be in this thing.

Man, I remember using him in a Delaz Scenario in Gihren's Greed, that guy turned out to be 100 times better in the Big Zam than he was in the Val Welo.

>>10113737
Is it at all possible for us to go faster? Any way at all? I'd rather not find out at the home stretch that we need to go to FULL POWER to arrive first, because then you start to wonder why you weren't at full power to begin with.

Ask around for maps and plans, find crewmen who have been to the place and squeeze them for details, fill our Minovsky particle storage to the brink. We might need everything we can get to get in and out safely again.

Also inform the brother that his father has been moved to the moon once we've started the mission. It would be unfair to not inform him and it would be unsave to leak the news before we're already five minutes into the action.

Repaint the mecha black.

And btw, how are we gonna stop Ramba from killing the man we're supposed to save? Ramba's a loyalist after all.

>>10113765
Yeah but we havent heard anything from the guys at Pezun about the Val Varo. Rick Doms and Beam bazookas we have.

>that guy turned out to be 100 times better in the Big Zam than he was in the Val Welo
WHAT.

>ANY ORDERS AT THIS POINT?

Just to make sure Burnie is going to be ok if we get into combat. has he learned how to do a hard restart on his MS yet?
Also, where's Icelena? Is she on the Madagascar?

Wasn't it a bit too Deus Ex Machina that David's parents found the tea cup?

>>10113800

No, you're pretty much going at 100% speed at the moment, if you push the engines harder than this, bad things can happen. Remember Midway, where it took almost a week for them to repair the engines on that Gaw you thrashed to hell? And this is in space, and ship repair is ALWAYS a bitch in a vacuum.

Also, this image here, if you put the extra bay on the top instead of the bottom (which would make it harder to land on the ground) then you'd have a perfect depiction of the Outer Heaven.

I'm ALMOST suspicious that somebody else has been reading Zeonquest.

>>10113841

Eh, let's call it dramatic license. The Tea Cup isn't actually all that important in the current political stage, it's more of a nail in the coffin for Gihren (literally if Char ever finds out.)

>Ask around for maps and plans, find crewmen who have been to the place and squeeze them for details, fill our Minovsky particle storage to the brink. We might need everything we can get to get in and out safely again.

Uh Minovsky particles are thing you emit, like radiation, they aren't like Beam Chaff (which for the record Zeon has successfully reverse engineered, both of your ships received chaff pods when they stopped off in Pezun. Possibly only good against one barrage though)
As for intel on the Moon, a fair few people have been to Von Braun and are familiar with it. Not least Zolomon. You could ask him about the city.

>Also inform the brother that his father has been moved to the moon once we've started the mission. It would be unfair to not inform him and it would be unsave to leak the news before we're already five minutes into the action.

You send the coded missive away, hopefully it won't be intercepted by Gihren's agents.

>Repaint the mecha black.

Technically they are already painted black... with white bits, that look a lot like skeletons. To be honest, given that the propaganda machine is finally beginning to notice you, if this does come to blows, then any Zeon who sees you guys on the other side of the field is going to think twice.

>And btw, how are we gonna stop Ramba from killing the man we're supposed to save? Ramba's a loyalist after all.

First of all: Meta. Secondly, there's still some doubt over how much Degwin knew about the assassination of Deikum.

cont

>>10113832
>WHAT.

Put him in a big Zam and then park him in a resupply point. The enemy will swarm towards him en-masse, and as long as he has energy, he'll dodge some of the shots, tank the rest and then respond with a map attack that should kill about 9+ units.

This happens all the time. I think his kill count was something obscene by the time the game ended.

>Just to make sure Burnie is going to be ok if we get into combat. has he learned how to do a hard restart on his MS yet?

Some training with Bernie MIGHT be in order yes.

>Also, where's Icelena? Is she on the Madagascar?

She's still aboard the Outer Heaven.

>Some training with Bernie MIGHT be in order yes.

A day's not much, but if we can do some maneuvering with him, it would certainly help.

Fuck it! This is the first Zeonquest that I've caught the beginning of in a Loooooooooooooooooong time. I'm tripping up for this.

- We're going on a rescue mission. A kidnapping mission is more like it. From a likely highly secure zone. For a man who is old and frail and could possibly be killed rather than be taken from us. We Need to think fast and quick first off. Primary missive should be to get in and get out quietly.

- If that isn't likely, we need to get in hard and fast. Strike before we can be intercepted. Get the package. Get the fuck out to Earth or wherever. Pezun or whatever the place where Degwin is.

- Spend the time with our crew, teaching them hard MS restarts and any other tricks we know. Make sure they know the plan. Go over tactics and strategy. Get intel on the area from Zolomon. Make sure everyone has a sidearm and an SMG if possible to carry with them in case they need to jump from their suit. Also radiosets and GPS beacons or some shit, so we can pick them up in this case.

- I can't think of anything else this instant.

>>10114109

Possibly we should inform Icelina about what we're doing, if we haven't yet, without giving away anything really top secret. Also, talk to Zol about the city, do some sims with Bernie and the team to polish up our space and low-g combat if we have time.

>>10114191

You also want to talk with Zolomon about Von Braun whilst you do so? And what sort of training? Actual MS training outside? Or do you want to see if you can snag a simulator?

>>10114209
She's a civilian. She doesn't need to know. But record a "confession" as it were and get it ready to transmit on all frequencies as strongly as possible from the OH in case we're killed.

>>10114218
Discuss theory mostly. We're going too fast to get out of the ship.

>>10114244

I was more thinking of making sure she knows what's going on in general, not specifics. She was just supposed to tag along and meet Garma's dad, after all. Maybe nobody told her things aren't going to plan yet.

>>10114244
She is a civilian but she is also Garma's lover. Garma might have confided quite a bit of information about his family politics with her.

>>10114329
Yeah, could be. But we are in the military. And you know, secrets are pretty big deals in the military.

>>10114218
>>10114218
>>10114218

Simulator for now, we cant slow down or anything.

>You also want to talk with Zolomon about Von Braun whilst you do so?

We should. Ways in and ways out plus any methode to transport an old man he can think of.
We might want to have a medical team on standby, just to be on the safe side.

>>10114207
Holy fuck, I thought you were dead. Havent noticed you in one of these threads in forever.

>>10114444
Bill Murray can never die.

But I've just been anon.

>>10114207
>>10114209
You give Icelina a general lowdown on what's been happening. She knew that something was up on Side 3, but now she knows. For what good it will do.

>>10114244

You and Zolomon take the time to try and bring Bernard up to speed. He does pretty well in sims to be fair, and whilst some of the more technical side to MS operation had escaped him, once you teach him some things, he seems to remember them.
Whilst you're doing so you talk with Zolomon about Von Braun.

"Well the thing to remember is that Von Braun is the largest human settlement on the moon. Next largest being our base at Grenada. Anyway, it's basically multi-part metropolis, refinery, trading and distribution hub for all the lunar mining operations, everything from Wildcat start-ups to big corporations bring their hauls to Von Braun to sell them to the rest of the Earth Sphere. The important thing to remember is, that even back before the Side 6 revolutions and Zeon and all that, Von Braun always had more neutrality than the colonies simply due to the lobbying power it had as one of the primary resource distributors. Even when the federation moved A-Boa-Qu, Solomon and Luna 2 into earth orbit to try and break Von Brauns resource monopoly, the city still remained a political entity because none of those asteroids contained some of the rare metals that the moon had."

"Like Lunarium?" You ask.

"Yup. Plus some rare heavy isotopes that we need for Micro-Fusion reactors."

"Do they have an indigenous milita?"

"Nothing that could stand up to a Mobile Suit, but space ships fronting with them they deal with several sets of retooled Mass Drivers, which scatter massive clouds of metal across the cities airspace, preventing a ship from escaping. So this is going to be tricky."

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

>>10114579
na lets do this shit, are or lunitatiam shields made?
or is our teck guy still somewhere else ?

>>10114579
Get on the horn with Ramba and see if he knows anything as well. Commend Bernie for his improvement.

Since the city is neutral, I see no problems with us landing and disembarking relatively easily. Should we go around on foot looking for intel? Or drop right on down in our suits? Suits are less subtle. And how are we supposed to get any idea where he is?

But if we go out on foot first, who's to say how long it will take, providing Gihren with more time to move him.

This is one slippery pickle.

>>10114579
Ask Zolomon if he thinks the administration of Von Braun would do anything as stupid as knowingly housing Degwin against his will. Basically are they colluding with Gihren or is this something that could only happen if they didn't know about it.

Also we need to strategize with the commando king Ramba Ral on how we are gonna do this.

>>10114579
How does a cloud of metal shards prevent an armored warship from slowly taking off and leaving, going slow enough to simply brush them away, rather than impact them at full speed and shredding the ship?

Oh yeah, time to kick ass.

Needless to say while stealth is an issue, lets just go fast.

>>10114657

You're Luna-Titanum Boxer Shield is ready yes.

After training with Bernard, your Operator informs you that Ramba Ral wishes to talk with you on the secure channel. You go to room and take his call there.

"Lister, I've been thinking. What if we bring our evidence to Kycillia who has made her base of operations on Grenada? We know that one of my old Degwin loyalist contacts was transferred to Grenada, I can try to get an audiance through him."

"Would a long range communication work?"

"Given that Kycillia and I have never really gotten on, I don't beleive so, evidence would have to be presented personally."

"Should I do it instead then?"

"Without a contact, getting an audiance with Kycillia would take too long. Even if you used mine, it would still raise some awkward questions. No, if were to do this, then I would have to go personally. What do you think?"

SENDING RAMBA RAL WOULD MEAN A REDUCTION IN YOUR FORCES, BUT ALSO THE PROSPECT OF GAINING THE SUPPORT OF THE KYCILLIA FACTION.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>10114716

Ask Ramba Ral the same question, he seems to be better informed than us.

Ask both Zolom and Ramba if they have any contacts inside the City/colony.

>>10114734

The cloud is fired like a shotgun from high powered mass drivers and is going at an appreciable fraction of C.
That's how.

Also: BRB Dinner.

>>10114776
In the long run I think it's worth it. We have a chance of getting her on our team, I say we go for it.

Whether or not we save Degwin is something that possibly won't have much effect. If we do save him, cool, then we have a lot more legitimacy. If not, then we're no worse than we are now. Either way, things are going to come to a head between Garma and Gihren. We might as well hedge our bets and try to stack the deck in our favor.

>>10114776
I really hate to send away our best guerilla ops guy for this but getting Kycillia's support would be nice. We should strategize with Ral on how we should do this with reduced forces if we send him away.

In fact I'm kinda wary of how Kycillia would respond if she finds out that while she is talking with Ral we were spiriting away Degwin, regardless of us actually saving him or not. We should voice that concern with him at least.

>>10114776
>>10114841
>>10114844
Are we sure that she won't make a grab for power herself once Gihren is taken care of and Degwin is back?

>>10114910
Nope. Of course, I don't know dick about Gundam except for what I've learned in this quest.

>>10114910
Meta: She wouldn't kill her father.

David: I dunno.

>>10114910

Reminds me of another thing...where are we gonna drop him off afterwards? It might politically be the best idea to just remove his current Pro Ghiren-Guard and have him decide afterwards. We obviously can't take him to earth as that would completely turn everything upside down and we obviously can't drop him with one of his other children in space as that would strengthen any of the factions and press Ghiren into a corner.

>>10114776

Do as you will, but we cannot trust Kycillia, it also gives more time to other operatives to find and move Degwin.

We send Ral to Kycillia.

David and co. use Zolomon's know-how of the city and Ramba's plan to get Degwin out. If things go south with Kycillia we still have David and co. at Von Braun to get Degwin out the hard way (or if Gihren's thugs show up before Kycillia throws her lot in).

I would like to get Kycillia on our side because having Johnny Ridden on our team would be awesome.

>>10115081
With the Garma/Dozle duo and Kycillia doing her own thing Gihren is already pressed into a corner. We need to strike him now before he can consolidate his power any further.

We should bring Degwin to Earth to talk with Garma before flying him out to Solomon and having him stay with Dozle. This way Garma gets to talk with his father and we can get his input on what do to.

>>10114776
Well the real problem with not informing Kycilia is that we run the risk of antagonizing her if we run a fucking Commando Op to yank her dad out of her Back Yard and run him to Garma/Dozle. The problem with informing her, is she'd likely try to use the information for political leverage over Gihren, and would likely disbelieve that He'd kill his own father. I think our best bet is to send her a communique that we're on a Zabi-approved Mission in the Von Braun area, and that we may or may not need her help, depending on the disposition and completion of that mission.

>>10115217
>>10115217
>>10115217

I like this.

>>10115217

Regardless, once we get underway we'll probably be branded as kidnappers and terrorists by anyone who will listen to Gihrens men, which will probably be a lot of people since they are in this place. Once that happens we won't have a chance to stop and explain ourselves and if we did and we got it straightened out, Degwin would have long since disappeared.

Seriously, we cannot trust anyone here. While it would be nice to have Kycillia on our side, its far more likely that she will use this oppertunity to take Degwin into 'protection' and gain the upperhand on everyone else.

We want to get in, grab Degwin and leave, before anyone can stop us and hopefully before anyone knows we were there.

>>10115303
I don't want to send Ral though, as he's got the most experience with this kind of shit, and I'd rather have him with us, than not. And it runs the risk of losing him altogether if Kycilia decides not to believe him, and tosses him in the brig, where Gihren can get to him. This is a tough Catch-22, but I'd say, gun to my head, send Ral. He'll get it done.

There is one thing that is really getting my goat. What's to stop Gihren's thugs from turning those Mass Drivers on us once we have Degwin on the Outer Heaven and just killing the whole lot of us.

That way Gihren has Degwin out of the way and he can pin it on dangerous dissidents within Zeon (Giving him license for further control) all the while claiming he had no hand in it since it was done over neutral Von Braun.

I hate to say it but Kycillia might be our best bet even if she is going to turn this to her favor and not Garma's.

>>10115303
>>10115217
I suggest going with my suggestion of recording an explanation of our actions before hand.

Then we do like you guys have suggested, going in strong and grabbing Degwin, then transmitting our video to those who need it.

>>10115217
Something like this. But we should still probably send Ramba Ral to Grenada just incase we get in over our head. Like Ral said there's no way of being sure our message would get to her in time. Unless ofcourse we started spamming DAGIN ZABI HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED! HE'S BEING HELD IN VON BRAUN! to the entire Earth sphere. That would go over well I'm sure.

Nab Degin and make for Solomon. Neither Girhen or Kycilla would go against Dozle if push came to shove and the entire Space Attack Force is not something you argue with.

I'm back.

So, do we tell Kycillia or not?

>>10115369

Those Mass Drivers are owned by Von Braun, not Gihren. You aren't sure if Von Braun has ANY IDEA that Degwins here, and when you bring it up with Ral, his opinion on the matter is that Von Braun is fairly protective of it's neutral status, and generally isn't all that willing to do anything that might jeopardise that.

That said, they aren't incorruptable, and it's not unthinkable that one or two people in somewhat high places in Von Brauns hierarchy have been paid off to look the other way.
But taking control over the one defensive measure they have? That's not going to happen without a full blown invasion by Gihren.

>>10115303

At least she won't kill her dad with gigantic space lasers, man.

>>10115369
Well obviously we need to get around that. Disabling them with the OH's weapons seems unlikely, seeing as it's an entire fucking city. Likewise, trying to hack into their system doesn't seem likely.

The best scenarios I can think of include either A) Convincing the administrators that we are in the right, that Gihren is a douchebag, and that we will either protect Degwin inside Vaun Bron or take him with us in the OH without them firing on us.

Or B) Land the OH somewhere out of the city's firing range and transport Degwin to the ship by way of the lunar surface. This seems highly dangerous, but probably the best choice if we go in alone.

Of course, if we get Kycilla's help, it changes everything. But whether or not we get her support, we wouldn't know for a long time until we had to start the operation.

>would likely disbelieve that He'd kill his own father.

I'd say a lot of people - possibly including David - would disbelieve it. Degwin is still alive after all. Ghiren made a power grab. But he obviously did not have his father assassinated.

As for informing Kycillia, I am sitting on the fence. Of course, we could sorely need the support - and we can't have her against us at all. But then again, getting her in might just be the straw that breaks Ghiren's back - in a bad way, provoking him to start open civil war. In which case we all lose.

I think we need an option that somehow puts Degwin (or Garma) back in control but allows Ghiren to save face. Otherwise we will all get screwed by the Federation...

>>10115438

On the point of us getting out of the city, it would probably be best if we could get a ship outside the city and have it as our escape option. While it would mean we would need to go outside, we wouldn't get shot to shreds by Mass Drivers.

>>10115369
That's a serious possibility, and you're right. We do know that Kycilia will NOT kill Degwin, and will keep him safe from Gihren IF she believes that Gihren CAN kill his own Father. I'd like to avoid a civil war here, if possible, but that's looking less and less likely at this point. Like I said, if I had to make a decision, send Ral, though I am loathe to do it. Also, very fucking important: We should send a coded communique to Dozle, Garma and the rest of the Gang, warning them about Gihren.

>>10115369

The Mass Drivers are controlled by the Neutral Von Braun Factory. They won't get turned on us if we remain covert.

Still, it would probably be a good idea to leave the moon slightly to the left of those mass drives, just to be on the save side.

My general course of action here would be:

-Get in contact with somebody in Von Braun we can somewhat trust.
-Find our man
-get him out of von Braun over the moon's surfarce and rendevouz with our ship again away from the actual installation.

>>10115482
>I think we need an option that somehow puts Degwin (or Garma) back in control but allows Ghiren to save face.

So it comes back to blackmailing Girhen once Degwin is safe and forcing him to share power with Kycilla?

>>10115438

Well, as much as I dislike the option, I'm going to trust MS-06FUCKYEAH on this point and say we send Ral in. He hasn't given anywhere near as much terrible advice as I have so I'll go with his instinct here and if things go south, well, its just one more person to bust out.

>>10115217
this x 1000

Is there a way to get in legally, without blowing something up with MS?

How much firepower can we take with us and what sort of firepower should we expect to go up against with?

I'd say we land with one ship directly at Von Braun, officially anouncing our intention to do so, and so on.

The other ship stays in lunar orbit or lands on the surface at a distance.

Finally, Ral takes a Kommusai to Grenada to talk to Kycillia.

>>10115544
Fuck that. When we report back to Garma we need to have Char there. Call him deserving to know because he was undoubtedly manipulated by Gihren too.

>>10115554
Awh, that means so much to me, Toledo! The thing is, I don't want to soft sell what could permanently piss off Kycilia. At this stage, even if her and Garma don't agree, or we have to buck her hold on Degwin to get him to Garma, both are considerably better options than running a Covert Operation on her turf against her fucking brother without giving her a good reason, which we have.

>>10115544

Yeah. Let's blackmail a confirmed murderer. That always works well in Murder Mysteries.

>>10115554
>>10115488

So. The general gist is: Send Ral, even though we don't really want to.

Okay?

>>10115620

I will second this course of action.

>>10115625
Sounds pritty Meta. We dont really know anything about Char other than that he's an amazing pilot that cant keep any wingmen alive.

On that topic we should talk to Ramba Ral some other time about why he hasent been promoted higher. It seems painfully obvious that he's better at commanding troops than Char is.

>>10115631

So long as she doesn't try and frame us or otherwise take advantage of the situation I agree. However I tend more towards pessimism in these cases so I fully expect knives in the back, the face and everywhere else besides.

Another option we could have is that rather than fleeing with Degwin immediatly, if we have the support we could hole up somewhere and wait for a while then make a move long after people have assumed we've already moved on.

>>10115695

Hey, once we have Degwin and if he's able to talk at all we can simply ask him to call up the Von Braun Management.

>>10115677
>CONFIRMED, YO

I'm agreeing with the idea to find Degwin and to rehabilitate him inside the city, allowing Garma time to send reinforcements, Ramba to possibly make progress with Kycilla, and for Degwin to regain his senses and see us as the badass heroes we are.

Seriously, this is a big ass city. We can find a place to hide.

>>10115677
Pretty much.

ALSO FORGOT MAH IMAGE FOR: >>10115554

>>10115677
>Yeah. Let's blackmail a confirmed murderer. That always works well in Murder Mysteries.

If Degwin or Dozle give him the choice between sharing power via blackmail or a firing squad, he seems intelligent enought to make the right choice.

>>10115791
we might want to consider have ramba bolt it back to earf as soon as things go down, see if he can draw some heat off of us by being a decoy.


I mean, if we get the big boss back up and running, and explain the situation/present the evidence, he should pretty much take of things.
Even if it goes to civil war, it will be the entire family united behind daddy-o against gihren. It wouldn't be a very long civil war

>>10115816
For as long a time until he can make another move.

>>10115823
this

some dogs just need to be put down

>>10115816
The right decision for him is the wrong decision for us. He'll likely kill us if he can get the chance.

>>10115816

No we should kill him while we have the chance, leaving your enemies alive is always a terrible plan, especially if you wrong them in some greivous way.

>>10115684
Lol at that advicelister.jpg

>>10115724
>Hey, once we have Degwin and if he's able to talk at all we can simply ask him to call up the Von Braun Management.

Considering that he used to be one of the major movers and shakers in Von Braun that's probably not a bad idea. Also you're pretty sure that he's being held in what used to be his old high class apartment as well.

Speaking of which. What's the plan for getting into Von Braun and then to Degwin, and then out again?
Throw some ideas at me and I'll bounce them back.

Very well, I bow to the superior numbers of those wanting to kill the mofo.

>>10115905
can we whip up a pressured Armour shell for our ms? to carry? just stuff him in that then beat feet

>>10115905
Land normally. It's Neutral. Shouldn't be a problem. Leave our MS in the area, along with half our team. Our main team, being David, Zol, and Jolyne, leave on foot. Armed with pistols strapped tightly to our bodies and concealed SMGs or shotguns, in suitcases or duffel bags. We go out on foot, dressed in street clothes, looking as inconspicuous as possible. Go in to Degwin's apartment building, if that's where we suspect he is, try to get him.

The rest of the team stays on the OH, already in their suits, but inside the ship, ready to get out into the open as necessary.

Opinions?

>>10115926
<3

>>10115905
Our ships dock as though we're on an impromptu resupply run due to the increased Federal Activity in Space currently. Have our Quartermaster and Chief Technician buy shit we may or may not need (Lunarium, anyone?) while our team, actually incognito, moves into the City, and cases the Penthouse. With Ral gone, we're probably the sum total of Special Operations experience on the team, so call in any Family Friends we have in Von Braun City, then move on the Penthouse. Also, if we could do some computer-magic to figure out what we're up against, courtesy of anyone on our team that could do that, that would be wonderful.

>>10115905

One idea would be to dock as tourists, als soldiers on leave. Should happen often enough.

Another would be to claim that we're tourists too, but actually dock on request of Icillica. We're sort of her honour guard and shit and she said that she'd like to see the Von Braun city after her visit on Side 6. But do ask her if she's ever been to the Von Braun before, we don't want that alibi to be riddled with holes by a simple passport check.

The third option would be to tell them that we're here to see Dozle and basically bullshit our way through, even though that could risk us being either turned back or Ghirens local guys being informed before we can get to wherever he's been held.

>>10115905
Do we still have the mechanized infantry platoon that was assigned to the Outer Heaven? If so find out if they have any kind of fast fit pressure suit that we could give to Degin if we needed to transfer him through areas with no atmosphere.

>>10115905
well, we have to find out exactly where Degwin is being held.

The whole plan hinges on what kind of building/security we're going to be extracting degwin from

>>10115996
>>10116001
We're on R&R sounds like the best choice.

We walk the streets dressed casually. Some techs from our ship buy a lot of booze to maintain the cover.

>>10115905

We're in a race against Gihrens agents so we can't take forever about it. Aside from Ral who is heading into see Kycillia, we will be best served by a low key approach. We should assume they are expecting us, just to be safe about our preperations. If we could I would suggest splitting up and making our way into the city in pairs from different places. Though we should all have valid passports so if need be wouldn't we be able to gain entry the same way as anyone else?

As for Degwin, hire a van, drive over there bust in and kick ass, quietly.

>>10115905
>What's the plan for getting into Von Braun and then to Degwin, and then out again?

Drop three mobile suits into the city from orbit. Keep the madagascar on the far side of the moon (hidden).

Have the MS's broadcast over loudspeaker that they are here to rescue the old man or some shit, the message doesn't really matter.

When the first small transport takes off at MAXIMUM GTFO speed, have the madagascar chase it down and board it.

If more than one ship leaves, the OH can chase an additional ship as well.

simple, really. Flush them out into the open and pluck them like ripe fruit.

>>10116091
No. That's way too much, way too fast. Too reckless. We drop MS into the city, we've got the city against us automatically.

We might want to grill Zolom some more. He's the one who probably knows people in there. It might be a good thing to have some people holding our doors open.

We should hope that we'll be able to just pick Dozle up, introduce him to to his son's girl and get out the way we came in.
The route over the moon's surfarce should if possibly remain the alternative route.

>>10115934

You mean like a small pod for transporting people? It would be easier to simply remove one of the ships escape pods and use that. Although it might raise questions.

>>10115972

>Land normally. It's Neutral. Shouldn't be a problem. Leave our MS in the area, along with half our team. Our main team, being David, Zol, and Jolyne, leave on foot. Armed with pistols strapped tightly to our bodies and concealed SMGs or shotguns, in suitcases or duffel bags. We go out on foot, dressed in street clothes, looking as inconspicuous as possible. Go in to Degwin's apartment building, if that's where we suspect he is, try to get him.

>The rest of the team stays on the OH, already in their suits, but inside the ship, ready to get out into the open as necessary.

The only real problem with this plan is that landing normally and announcing your presence may raise suspicions with any guards and agents Gihren has assigned with Degwin. Othwise I see no issues.

>>10115926

Lol. When Zolomon get's that combat footage he is going to have a field day.

>>10116091
This is so inconceivably stupid I don't think I have a reaction image for it.

Wait...found one.

>>10116091
And if no one leaves? What then? And what about when Von Braun Central says "This is a neutral port, GTFO or we'll revoke your faction's trading licenses!"? That sounds like a terribad idea to me.

>>10116149
How about faking a need to land for emergency repairs or some such shit? Claim that, whatever the problem, won't allow us to make it to Grenada.

That's the best I have at the moment. 3 hours sleep & an inherent lack of understanding of operational planning don't help.

>>10116230
If you have an inherent lack of Operational Planning acumen, don't try to plan an operation then.

Anyway, we don't need an excuse to be there, there's like four hundred million plausible reasons for us to be at VBC. What we need to do is figure out how we're going to snatch Degwin.

>>10116149

Like I said, it wouldn't be too hard for Aces such as us to drop some people outside the city and make our way in on foot, classic infiltration. I'd like to say we could get into a different ship that isn't the Outer Heaven and move in as tourists, but thats unlikely. Best bet I'd say is to leave the OH in orbit ready for a recovery, rather than landing if we could.

>>10116268
We're some Zeon soldiers on leave. Good enough reason as any to land in a big city. Send dudes out for booze and porno mags. That will give us a good cover. Use fake names. We aren't Lister and Nachtmaren, just some dudes.

>>10116004

>Do we still have the mechanized infantry platoon that was assigned to the Outer Heaven? If so find out if they have any kind of fast fit pressure suit that we could give to Degin if we needed to transfer him through areas with no atmosphere.

YES! I'd forgotten all about them. You do indeed have a full platoon of soldiers at your beck and call. Although it's been a while since they've had to do EVA operations.
You can take them with you if you want.

>>10116025
>>10116001
>>10115996

Either of these would probably work, although saying your on a ressuply run in Von Braun might garner you some weird looks over why you aren't just going to Grenada instead.

R&R makes sense, that's what the Albion did once it got into space in Stardust Memories if I recall.

Do that?

>>10116300
R&R. Fake names and ranks. Von Braun won't know the difference. Some dudes go out and buy booze and porn. Big portion of our infantry plus our three mains, David, Zolomon, and Jolyne go out. Rest of the team sits in suits ready to rock and roll.

PCs and infantry go out on the town. Converge on target area once we get a better idea. Take Degwin. Hunker down somewhere. OH leaves port and heads to Granada or whatever.

>>10116339
this, I reckon

>>10116300
With a full infantry platoon with us suddenly the numbers against Gihren's thugs shifts a ton more to our favor.

Go in under pretext of R&R and then get ready for a snatch and grab operation with a reasonable amount of force.

>>10116295
Someone goes into the city on 'leave' and finds a used clothing store. Buy enough for a few of us and a couple soldiers. Scope out Degwin's suspected area while in disguise. Commence commando mission once we think we've got the right place. Once we're in lose the civvie clothing if necessary.
Evac Degwin to the ship.
GTFO.

>>10116300

I'd say maximize the noise - buying resupplies and send out two or three teams for R&D. It should not look like we're trying to do anything specifically.

>>10116300
Fuck yes! We still have them!? They are so so so much more useful now than they ever were trying to suicide-run enemy MS. (JK, they were useful spotters) Ok, pertinent question time:

1. Do we have any contacts in VBC?
2. Does our Mom/Dad have any contacts in VBC?
3. Do we have any way of finding out where exactly Degwin is located?
4. Can our Operator hack shit? Shutting down internal security and or the Mass Drivers would be very beneficial to our mission.

>>10116360
Exactly. And in regards to the OH leaving as mentioned in my previous post.

It leaves the city once we start the rescue op, and hopefully before VB starts shooting shit in the sky.

It leaves us stranded, but makes it not a target anymore.

We could then either wait and try to get VB to see the light, or we can get some vehicles and get out of town for a pick up.

>>10116389
Apologized says that Gihren's thugs having influence to get them to turn Mass Drivers on us is low as seen in >>10115438

Knocking out internal security measures so we can have an easier time getting to Degwin is a must though.

>>10116300

Jeez, I forgot all about those guys. Lets do this then, with a full platoon we could take all those Mass Driver locations if need be. Hell we could take the whole damn city! It would be like Christmas come early!

WAIT

Assuming our ship isn't so recognizeable as a Zeon ship, say we're Feddie troops on R&R. Get VB against the Feds if shit goes wrong.

>we should kill him while we have the chance

Above all, we should kill him when his death (or even just us gunning for him) won't set off a civil war, which will see all of Zeon curbstomped by the Federation. So probably the killy bit should wait until after the war.

As for getting into Von Braun:

Dock legally with one ship and hold the second in reserve.

Probably the Madagascar should do the docking (we transfer to the ship beforehand). It has the general purpose suits (in case we need them). Also, keeping the space combat MS on the Outer Heaven, well, in space seems like a good idea.

Someone mentioned our infantry complement. Are they with us on this mission? Anyone of them commando trained?

>>10116443
A Platoon isn't that big, Toledo, but it does give us a patented advantage against Gihren in this Op.

Also, another pertinent question; does our Infantry Platoon have any notable Marksmen or Sharpshooters?

>>10116427
Yeah, but low doesn't necessarily mean impossible. It was more for the security, but it def. wouldn't hurt.

just a thought, but we might want to bring along a fake moustache for Degwin so we can "perfect disguise" him.

swap a squad member or infantry redshirt into whatever he is wearing for a body double in case they try to outright shoot him in an effort to frame us as terrorists

Remember, guys: Gihrens goons might just shoot degwin rather than lose him. Gihren would have enough clout to paint us as a unit gone rogue, terrorist extremists, etc etc etc and we'd be fucked, Hero's of Zeon or not

>>10116491
That's true. We need a brittle old man to dress up!

>>10116427

It's not like anyone's gonna make trouble if we're acting quickly, but there will be trouble if we mess with their electronics.

>>10116460
We have a Zanzibar with a big Zeon symbol on it and David Lister is recognized as a Zeon ace. They will know we are Zeon.

Right now with the Feds presence in space being very minimal we would have an easier time at Von Braun as our Zeonic selves over parading ourselves as Feds.

>>10116339
>>10116351
>>10116389

You have no known contacts in Von Braun.

Okay, so we'll be going out into the city under guise of a party of Zeon personel on R&R. Whilst they're we'll search for Degwins Apartment, get inside, rescue the old duffer and then make our way out ASAP.
Remind me, are we renaming the ship, or keeping it as is?

>>10116520
Temp rename to The Zarathustra.

>>10116520

Lets rename it!

>>10116520
I was unaware there was a push to rename the OH. I kind of like it, but will defer to a majority if they feel the need to change it.

Anyway, ensure we have at least two squads of Infantry with us, as well as Sniper Support, when we take Degwin, and make sure we have fast cars to get us back to the port. Also, Body Double. Not a bad call. The guy saying that Gihren may just shoot Degwin is right. We need spare Kevlar/Armor/Whatever and a double for him.

>>10116520
Look up the name of some other Zanzibar that was in Side 3 when we were there. Better odds of it being thought of as Girhen loyal, less chance of the same ship showing up here.

>>10116520
Unless we have to get new authorization bullshit that will tie us up under a new (fake) name then we go with the fake name.

We can't really afford being caught up in red tape.

Fake ship name should be: Executor.

>>10116520
Temporary rename. How does Acherus sound?

>>10116563

I guess that renaming the ship is more for the fact we are kinda famous as Heroes of Zeon. As such I'm guessing the name of the Outer Heaven would also be well known by those with any knowlege of us too.

I'd say we should rename our ship to 'Schwartzwald'

>>10116563
>>10116576
>>10116572

Given the current name, would anyone object to it being renamed "Shadow Moses"?

>>10116563

Remember that the place we're going to is neutral. There won't be that many guns on us and we simply should try to be quick about the whole mess - if we're in and out before they can react there won't be nobody shooting with guns but us.

But we might still try and plot out an escape route save from snipers once we actually know where Dozle is held.

>Can our Operator hack shit? Shutting down internal security and or the Mass Drivers would be very beneficial to our mission.

I am not a fan of tampering with the mass drivers. That would just get Von Braun security on us on top of Gihren's agents. Citywide internal security is also a no go for the same reason. Security of Degwin's old apartment block would be golden though.

>It leaves us stranded, but makes it not a target anymore.

We've got two ships. First one lands, we commence operation, ship leaves. Second one lands, we conclude operation, leave on the ship we did not come in on.

>>10116620
Fine. Just a temp rename for this jaunt.

Doesn't really matter what it's called.

>>10116628
Sounds great.

>>10116628

Passport control may NOTICE that. But there's probably not a whole lot they can do about it.

>>10116628
The hacking of the Mass Drivers was in case Gihren's Agents tried to use them against us, and wouldn't have been done until they tried that.

And your second sentence makes a lot of sense. Send Ral to Grenada in a Shuttle/Komusai, we land in the Madagascar, Mad leaves, we do our shit, OH docks, we get aboard, and scoot. We want access to our own MS in case the shit hits after all.

Von Braun likes it's neutrality. Von Braun doesn't like the idea of people mess with the peaceful set up it's got going on. Both stashing Degwin in VB's jurisdiction AND potentially messy covert ops to get him back could easily end up ruining VB's day, as it pulls them into politics that they really don't want to be a part of.

Degwin was a big man in Von Braun back in the day, and likely still has some very high level contact there, even if we don't. Instead of trying to pull of a major special ops infiltrate and rescue that might end up with us fighting the Von Braun defense force as well as Gihren's people, why don't we scout the area and then see if we can't get some of Degwin's old friends to back us up. If we had VBPD's go ahead to pull Degwin out things would go a lot smoother. Of course, finding the right people to ask might be hard, seeing as we don't know who liked Degwin and who Gihren might have bought off.

>>10116757
We might have to do that when we get Degwin and hopefully that won't be an issue if we can get him out quickly. If we cannot get him out quickly getting his contacts on the horn would be golden.

>>10116620
>Shadow Moses

Should work fine. Some bright lightbulb might figure it out but that's a small risk.

>>10116757
Not a bad call, either. Unfortunately we don't know any of these people, and they don't know, or trust, us. So unless you have some way of trumping that, we really don't have any choice. (And don't say the letters from Garma or Dozle. They won't help us in VB.)

>>10116757

which means that the best way to go on about it would be to bag most of Ghirens agents guarding Degwin and then hope that the old man can play his magic.

>>10116520

The moment we get Degwin onbaords annoce to the crew changing of callsigns.

The ship will then be known as "The Great Degwin".

Some fireteams of the platoon should be detached, especially some demo experts, to place charges around the city AND the docks. Once the operation is underway, charges can be detonated to create more panic and divert security forces.

The explosions around the dock will be a good enough excuse to sortie our MS complement and our remaining ground troops to secure the area around the ship with the aim to blast off as soon as the rescue party is aboard.

>>10116757
Contacting VB is a good idea.

HOWEVER, we don't know who we can trust here.

I'd rather get Degwin, and if he's conscious, get an idea from him on who to contact.

>>10116834
That's a terrible idea. Zeon would lose VB's supplies immediately.

>>10116834
How many times do we have to say that fucking up Von Braun City is a really, apocalyptically retarded idea? I mean, seriously. It's on of Zeon's major trading partners, and if we go all Rambo on it, they'll be PISSED. Our Covert Op plan is risky enough as it is without turning midtown Von Braun into Downtown Baghdad.

>>10116632

Okay then. Of we go.

OMAKE

Namah started when the phone went off. Business had been slow today. With the war on, that was often how it went, some days would be quiet, and then a ship (usually Zeon) would come in for R&R and the place would be heaving with drunken soldiers looking to get some much needed but scantly available relaxation.

She picked up the phone.

"Hello?"

"Uh, Namah? I know it's been a while and I haven't called you as much as I said I would... but what's the insurance policy on the bar with regards to acts of military aggression?"

"Just once brother I wish you'd call me with good news, or just to have a talk."

"Just humour me okay."

"I *think* we're fully covered, plus we'd be eligable for government support payouts because were using it as our home as well, and it represents housing damage."

"Okay, thanks. Remind me, that disaster shelter is still within running distance right?"

"Actually they put a tunnel in the basement of the bar just in case. What is this about?"

"There's a *slight* possiblity you might be seeing Mobile Suits in the city by the end of the day. It's not an invasion or anything but... look just keep your eyes open okay?"

He then hung up. Asshole. He never could finish a phone call properly.

"Yeah, yeah, love you too Zolomon."

>>10116834

No. No fucking explosives inside a neutral city.

>>10116834
Blowing up parts of Von Braun is a very bad idea given how that will immediately result in them cutting resource trade with Zeon. We simply can't afford it.

If we can get Degwin though I feel that Von Braun will suddenly favor Zeon over the Feds in resource trading once they find out that the Ruler of Zeon was being held against his will in their city (a violation of their neutrality if there ever was one).

Get ready for a threeway between David, Jolyne, and Namah.

>>10116865
Well if Zolomon's family has a bar/house with tunnels and fallout shelters, that sounds like the place to stash Degwin.

>>10116865
So......

Zolomon has a sister. INTERESTING. (IN B4 SHIPTARDS)

Anyway, nice Omake. Can we get this party started? Also, if Zolomon's little phone-call right there got us noticed, Imma light his glorious Afro-spacenoid Afro on fucking fire.

Trying to pull VB in on our side is probably going to get us nowhere


If anything, VB has already been notified by Gihren that Degwin is being stashed in their city for safekeeping, and to be vigilant for any attempted assassinations/kidnappings


going to VB to ask for help will likely result in a big red telephone on gihrens desk ringing, with some VB crony immediately going "OMGAWD DEYS TRYINA' SNATCH UR DADZ"

absolute and total secrecy is our best bet

>>10116903
I'd rather stash him on the Outer Heaven on its way to Garma quite frankly. The shelters will probably be watched by Gihren's goons anyways. We need to be out of here fast and hunkering down in the city is what we do when things go bad.

>>10116865
Priceless.

>>10116918
Manipulating Von Braun is only going to happen once we have Degwin firmly under our protection. Then they will start cutting prices for Zeon on Lunar Titanium so they can keep their neutrality.

>>10116967
They only have Lunarium. It takes a secret Feddy process to refine it into Lunar Titanium.

>>10116859
>>10116853

Humour me on this. I didn't mean to destroy parts of the city. What I meant was a distraction. Stuff that can attributed to other causes like industrial accidents and the like. Like say an large fire at some storage facility or tear gas bombs with enough colouring to look like the place is being gassed. Will cause a riot and slow any organised response.

>>10116987
In that case crazy deals we must be absolutely insane going out of business sale prices on Lunarium.

Also, I suggest when we get a chance, do a look over on the personal records and take a walk around the ship.
Maybe we won't find anything
but maybe we'll find a Gihren spy.

I know the odds are next to impossible, but we won't lose anything by just looking a bit.

>>10117005
Even that is too risky and wrecks our ability to extort Von Braun later on for breaking their neutrality since we would be violating it ourselves. We need this quick and clean.

You land in Von Braun City under an assumed name. All of your assault team, which consists of you Zol and Jolyne, as well as a full 15 man platoon of infantry all in civvies and with concealed weaponry.
Luckily, the military and trade terminals is a little less lax on checking for contraband than they are with civilians, so nobody get's cought.
All it takes is presenting your (fake) papers to the customs official, along with a reasonable bribe inserted within the second page in such a manner as to imply that it is a complete coincidence that such a thing had found it's way there.

After entering Von Braun city, you find yourself in automated transport hub which leads to all sectors of Von Braun.
You already know where Degwins Apartment is, but do you want to go straight there, or somewhere else, or split up perhaps?

YOUR ORDERS?

>>10117031

This.

>>10117005
Yeah, that isn't suspicious. Explosions rack the city after some Zeon soldiers shoot up an apartment building, before escaping on a Zeon ship?

Good plan, bro.

>>10117043
Us and a sizeable portion of our platoon head to Zol's family's bar. The rest stick close by, but do minor recon. We don't want the group getting seperated and picked up by Gihren's men.

>>10117089
Seconded.

>>10117043
Divide up into squads. Some head out like they are going to buy booze, others go for strippers/whatever, and the rest head to the penthouse. That way it looks like we are pooling resources for some big party instead of a snatch and grab op.

Too bad our infantry platoon isn't a Special ops force, that'd make our lives a lot easier right about now.
Personally, I say land, go in in rented, unmarked vans with a squad or two of infantry,with sterile uniforms and gear (can we get hold of federation small arms and infantry gear on this short of notice?) let them do their thing (we're MS pilots, not trained infantry, probably be better to be on standby in case they need big guns), grab the big guy, book it to the OH and to wherever in the hell is most prudent. We do it fast enough, VB *might* not know what's going on till we're already outbound at best possible speed, and with sterile equipment, wouldn't be able to backtrack the stuff anyway (and hopefully our grunts wouldn't leave any bodies behind...)

>>10117043

Split up, we need to scope out the area as well as escape routes, we don't want to go in blind. We also need contingency plans incase this goes belly up.

We are moving people, so we'll need a van. We are worried about getting shot, so we don't want one with too many windows. There's a lot of us so we'll need other vehicles for other team members.

>>10117043
Send a two man team to case the apartment. Tell them secrecy if of the utmost importance. We go off and look tourist-ey, while Anita sees if she can find anything that might help us on the interbuttz. (Transport Records/Recordings/Bribes etc.)

>>10117089
FYI, for whatever reason, Zolomon hasn't told you about the bar.
You can ask him for somewhere to hide out though. Whilst you do recon, you also have no idea about the securty arrangement where Degwin is being held.

>>10116891
That would most certainly end in our demise. If Zol didn't do the job, Jol probably would once she sobered up.

>>10117043
Split up. Pick a team that will make a pass by the residential areas to check them out. Other teams scout for useful info in other areas. We all meet back up at a restaurant or something at a predetermined time. From there we swap info, form up into fire teams and attack the site from multiple directions.

>>10117089

Should the main group moving to the bar split up and make our way there seperately?

A large group entering all at the same time would attract some attention.

Also what do we have in terms of communication equipment?

>>10117119
Fuck it then. Majority of force heads somewhere safe. Send recon teams out one at a time in 2 or 3 person teams to scout out the apartment building.

I think splitting up is most likely a bad idea. I don't mean we should walk together in a giant posse.

But we should all stick to the same general area. The more we split up, the more we risk one of our guys being picked up by Gihren's agents.

Ask Zol if he knows were we can set up a safe zone, recon, and try to see if mom tried to contact us. If not start looking. We know Degwin fell ill, so expensive private doctors would be the best place to start looking.

>>10117089
This


also, begin constant surveillance of the apartment complex that Degwin is in.
rotating 2 hour shifts so that any one person isn't there long enough for them to get suspicious.

If we watch for shipments/deliveries of food, we can probably get a rough idea of how many men are guarding Degwin.

While surveillance is going on, we need to get some things in order:
1) acquire vehicular transportation. Van preferable
2) map several routes between Degwins apartment and Zol's families' bar
3)acquire disguising material for Degwin

Other less important things:
1) acquire additional transport/decoy vehicles
2) acquire communications equipment for entire team. personal radios or somesuch. Not sure if we have those
3) speak with infantry about shooting skill, see if we have someone we can set up with a decent long rifle in an overwatch position

>>10117112
>>10117089
>>10117103
>>10117106
>>10117114
>>10117121

Split up mind.

If we're going to be awhile we need to find a real estate agent.

Find a suitable agent and rent an apartment near degwin's with a good overwatch position, if possible 3 to cover most approaches.

>>10117199
I don't think we'll be here THAT long.

looks like I was a bit late.

As an aside, I think this, if nothing else, would be a good excuse to start training our infantry in some Black ops stuff- or at least things to support us- CSAR, Building clearing, that kind of thing.

>>10117199
Oceans Eleven this aint.

>>10117158
Seconding (Thirding?) Sniper and transportation.

>>10117206

Then maybe just one. You have to admit that the security team is going to be looking over the area and someone loitering near the area is going to attract unwanted attention.

>>10117231
we're MS pilots, I don't know if we even have that training ourselves.

Too bad we sent Ramba away, this is his type of stuff

It might be a good idea to talk to the Admin of the Von Braun, or their police force at the very least.
"Hey. Degwin Zabi has been moved to Von Braun city, possibly against his will. Could you help us check to make sure he's okay?"

>>10117250
We don't know if VB forces already know this and or if we can trust them. There are too many unknowns there.

>>10117140
>>10117114
>>10117112

Okay so, find a quiet place to use as a base of operations whilst were in Von Braun, then one team will case out Degwins apartment, the other will look for alternate escape routes either back to the "Shadow Moses" or just out of Von Braun to reunite with the ship later.

Sounds good? And if so, who will be in Recon Team 1, and who will be in Recon Team 2? Will anybody be left behind?

For the record your infantry platoon contains 2 sharpshooters, 1 demo specialist and radio operator, the rest are all soldiers.

>>10117206

Depending on Degwins status we might end up being grounded for at least a few days...

>>10116918
Well then we just have to tell the VB that "Hey, someone may have kidnapped, or be preparing to assasinate, Degwin Zabi and has brought him to VB. We've come to make sure he's safe, and any help from VB in this matter will be appreciated."

>>10117288
WE DONT KNOW WHO GIHREN COULD HAVE IN HIS POCKET, DUMB FUCK!

>>10117288
That will not only get Gihren's goons to immediately kill Degwin but it will also get us tied down in bureaucracy. Save the manipulation of Von Braun to after we have Degwin under our protection.

>>10117266
David, Jol, Zol, Snipers, Radio dude, and 2 other guys in Recon 1.
Recon 1 scouts the apartment first.
everyone else in Recon 2 (should be 9 guys).
Recon 2 scouts out possible escape paths.
Everyone derps around and acts like troops on R&R leave.

>>10117266

So the platoon has only one big bulky radio which i assume was left on the ship? Is there any place we can procure some phones illegally (untraceble/black market)?

So suppose we Loot Degwin and are like "hup hup hup let's GTFO the place", what would prevent VB's police force from responding to the kidnapping?

cancer

>>10117360
nothing, technically

once we kick down the apartment door, we're on a ticking clock to grab degwin and gtfo back to OH before the police can organize a response

I suggest multiple decoy vehicles, with squad members acting as body doubles in each

I suggest making sure the OH is ready to fucking book it ASAP, we don't want to give VB time to bring it's guns online and/or impound or otherwise blockade us out of our own ship

>>10117360
That's why we gtfo fast. Get him safe. If he can tell us who to trust here, then we contact them. If not, we leave. Fast.

>>10117360
Gihren's goons don't want Von Braun security involved in this anymore than we do (and anymore than Von Braun wants involved either). We have a platoon of armed veteran infantry though, a sight more than what a bunch of coppers can handle.

>>10117346

Everybody has mobile phones, it's just that they wont work in a minovsky particle zone. Also he's a dab hand with Laser Communications as well.

>>10117388
>>10117395
Should we deploy MSes from the OH once we boot Degwin's door down?
If we're trolling VB's police anyway we might as well go into maximum trolling mode and deploy the rest of the team to cover our retreat.

>>10117335
Recon Team 1 should be made up of people who a) can walk the same way the locals do in the low gravity and b) wont blow their cover. Should be as small as possible.

Recon Team 2 should be made up of Zol and most of the rest.

>>10117403
I think Gihren would love VB cops bogging us down. If anything it will give him a chance to discredit us and prop up his own faction by punishing us.

>>10117335

I'm fine with this layout. Like we've said before we are on a strict schedule, so I say we move as soon as its dark. Get this done tonight.

>>10117266

Sounds Excellent. I'd say we should keep Zolom behind and have him map out an escape route. Finding the place won't be as much of a problem as getting away again.

What's Bernie doing, btw?

>>10117432
Only if we absolutely have to. If the Von Braun security force is stupid enough to field construction MS with guns they are going to be in for it when we deploy Doms and Zakus on their ass.

If we do things right we won't have to send out MS though. I really don't think they are going to interfere all that much though, especially if they find out what's really going on.

We should check if its feasible to hotwire/buy/steal an auxilary ambulance.

An emergency service is less likely to be stopped and we can use it as an exfil vehicle to get Degwin back to the ship, Degwin posing as the patient.

>>10117527
GENIUS PLAN

Let's get this show on the road.

>>10117527
We could go to a junkyard near a hospital and assemble an ambulance from scrap with the mechanics from the Outer Heaven. We may even be able to do two of them.

>>10117243

I mean in general- Zeon HQ has to have some sort of Special forces command and training center for grunts in a war that's largely made infantry obsolescent.

Now my biggest fear is that Sovereign Degwin doesn't know Gihren is fucking shit up. And fights us as we try to save him. We are all assuming he'll happily go with us.

Lets hope we are right. But if we aren't, someone palm some sedatives just in case.

>>10117569
Meta: He knows Gihren drugged him, seeing as he gloated over him afterwards.

>>10117569
I'm more worried that he will be so sick we can't move him actually. We might be taking him along with his bed.

>>10117569

Remember the omake a few threads ago,

Degwin realized what Gihren had done shortly after he passed out.

>>10117569
Degwin knows Gihren drugged him, thanks to Gihren being stupid enough to tell him.

>>10117569
Degwin knows Ghiren poisoned his ass.
If Degwin is awake, he'll be like "holy shit it's the nachtmaren, let's gtfo"

Anyway, that's the plan. Team A (David + crew) stake out the Apartment. Team B derp around and try to map out some escape routes.
The Ambulance thing, the Armor thing, and the Body doubles for Degwin thing were all good ideas. We'll need some portable armor for Degwin, stored inside an Ambulance, and as many Degwin doubles as possible. Ambulance doubles will also be a good idea.

>>10117569

I just realised the platoon does not have a medic. This could go badly. We need to pull in the ship's doc.

If we need to give him a shot there should be enough supplies in the ambulance.

>>10117550

I doubt we have the time to assemble them. And vehicles already being used by the emergency services will be easily recognised. We'll need to repaint, and even get the siren's right. Its better to just see if we can hotwire/steal 2.

Would have suggested some police vehicles and uniforms but such things usually set off very big alarm bells with the administration and attract too much attention.

>>10117593
>>10117598
>>10117613
>>10117617

Looks like I didn't catch that. Thanks for the heads up. Yeah. I'm good with the current plan.

>>10117043
>a full 15 man platoon of infantry

That is one tiny "full" platoon, more like a fat squad. For a country with a few billion inhabitants I've always wondered how Zeon can have such a manpower shortage.

>>10117335
>David, Jol, Zol, Snipers, Radio dude, and 2 other guys in Recon 1.
>Recon 1 scouts the apartment first.
>everyone else in Recon 2 (should be 9 guys).
>Recon 2 scouts out possible escape paths.
>Everyone derps around and acts like troops on R&R leave.

Okay, you find a realtively quiet pub to return back to after your recon is completed, and both of your teams embark on their missions.

A few hours later you both return.

TEAM 1: RECON ON THE APARTMENT.

Degwins apartment lies at the top of one of the tallest buildings within the Pressue Dome. It is a luxury affair with top class, but civilian security. The top floor is 67 floors up incidentially. They can spot at least 4 agents in the apartment, not heavily armed by your standards, but probably armed with concealed sidearms.
Getting into the building conventionally requires being buzzed in by a maitre-de and a metal detector scan.

RECON MISSION 2
All transport in Von Braun is conducted via computer controlled transport monorails that can comfortable hold about 6 people. Most colonies use a similar system. Car's a not used due to the moons low gravity.
Aside from the standard entrance to the docks, there are also several air purification tunnels and air ducts that could also be used to bypass the security. Although it's unsure if you could transport a man on a stretcher though. Aside from that there about 14 airlocks that could be used to escape the pressure dome and reunite with the ship outside.


YOUR ORDERS?

>>10117764
I would say the 1 week war did a pretty good job of it.
Later on it didn't help that the gundam killed a disproportionate amount of soldiers on the battle field. It doesn't seem like much but, counting all the grunts that died once the GM was fielded is no joke.

but that is just my best guess

>>10117809

Its civillian so we can breeze past them, I would suggest that we get a good 5-6 guys and buy a fridge. Be delivery men. Guns go in the fridge, which goes in the box, we get past the door that way.

>>10117809
A metal detector you say...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDTTuztr5kI

>>10117809
Has anyone gotten a visual on Degwin yet? no reason to bust in unless we know he is in there.

>>10117809
Get prepared to go in swinging. Duct tape/restraints included. Armor under our street clothes.

See if we can stash a cache of survival suits/some kind of thing we could put a weak Degwin in case we need to use an airlock to escape.

Plan. Try to get someone buzzed in as a delivery man or something. Restrain the front desk person, tie up, buzz everyone else in. Go up. Try not to kill civilians. Hopefully rescue him if he's up there.

If he's not, it'll suck.

>>10117809
Need clarification from Team 1:
1) were there any regular traffic in/out of the building.
2) Were guards replaced or were they stationed there perm?
3) Do they have Grappling Hooks? :D

Do our weapons have suppressors? I'd rather we didn't let the whole neighborhood know we're tearing shit up when we become OPERATORS OPERATING OPERATIONALLY.

...in space.

>>10117809
Infiltrate via air ducts wearing normal suits with extra kevlar over them. Exfiltate via shooting our way out the front door and make for the airlocks.

>>10117870
I don't think anyone is going to get a visual on Degwin unless Gihren's goons are completely incompetent.

Maybe we can cause a local power outtage (Someone flipped the wrong switch...really!). That could give us cause to come dressed as electrical workers with toolboxes full of "metal tools." We can always take the stairs.

>>10117831
Except Side 3 never got touched by any direct attacks. Guess they'd have temporary manpower shortages from those early battles but normal infantry shouldn't be hard to whip up in the many free months they had.

Besides all that applies, if not more so (much heavier losses), to the Federation which only had Earth left as a major manpower site (which in UC verse isn't even larger than Side 3, population wise I think?).

Unless the feddies stored millions of soldiers in tubes at Luna II to put into GMs or something. Certainly no explanation that goes with their population numbers for how the hell the Feddies are supposed to have 20x manpower/resources.

>>10117925
I like this plan but bring along an extra large armored normal suit for Degwin.

>>10117930
You have a point

>>10117927
yeah lets pull a burn notice.

>>10117930
This doesn't even take into account that
A) Side 3 should have a massive production advantage, the majority of feddie construction should have been at their capitol sites that got nuked in space. This is supported by the fact that it's not Luna II that's the biggest remaining site for ship construction, but Jaburo. Meanwhile Side 3 is untouched and got the Zero-G advantage to ship construction.

B) That if anything drafted soldiers from Earth would have been shipped to the front as the Federation built up in the years prior to the war breaking out. The front and all those soldiers got themselves nuked which should leave Earths manpower reserves drained. Not counting all the elites that dont want to get their hands dirty in the first place. What possible reason could they have to post hundreds of millions of lowly soldiers on Earth when they have Zeon pretty much blockaded in Space before the war?

Excuse my spergin'

>>10117870
>Has anyone gotten a visual on Degwin yet? no reason to bust in unless we know he is in there.

no visual on Degwin as of yet.

>>10117925
>>10117915

>Do our weapons have suppressors? I'd rather we didn't let the whole neighborhood know we're tearing shit up when we become OPERATORS OPERATING OPERATIONALLY.

On the pistols yes, but not on the bigger guns in the suitcases.

>Get prepared to go in swinging. Duct tape/restraints included. Armor under our street clothes.

Where are you going to get THAT in a hurry?

>Infiltrate via air ducts wearing normal suits with extra kevlar over them. Exfiltate via shooting our way out the front door and make for the airlocks.

Air duct in Degwins Apartment you mean?

So, is our plan suitably retarded? Its high class so they are going to have a seperate security room and its many floors up, so if we do something overt we'll have the police on us before we can get back down again.

>>10118035
>What possible reason could they have to post hundreds of millions of lowly soldiers on Earth when they have Zeon pretty much blockaded in Space before the war?

It's still Earth for one thing. There will always be the threat of riots and uprisings. They probably needed military force to move people into space that hadnt wanted to go. Some countries could flip out and try to break away forming rogue states. Not the sort of thing you want happening.

>>10117809
>>Top Floor, Low Grav

Lets just do a dungeon bypass.

The zeon MS pilot uniform comes with thrusters (can't find an image).

Get a squad to enter maint. passages at the top of the dome, one they're nearly overhead, they can fall downwards. The thrusters only need to manever slightly and slow them down so it should be enough in the low grav.

Land on the top floor, go in hard (hopefully with silenced weapons), exfil.

>>10118109
>Air duct in Degwins Apartment you mean?
Yeah, these ones.
>Aside from the standard entrance to the docks, there are also several air purification tunnels and air ducts that could also be used to bypass the security.

Normal suits incase somebody notices and tries to vent us into space. And for the airlock portion if we decide to leave that way.

Wait, do we have an wappas on the OH?

Could a wappa potentially fly up to the 60-whatever floor in the moons lighter gravity?

because that would be a retardedly simple fix to a whole slew of problems. Just wappa up to the roof, rappel down the side and come crashing in through the windows RAINBOW SIX style

>>10118121
Seems like a big risk to bring in colony troops for that kind of thing though, what with Side 3 and Side 6 getting all revolution happy. Which leaves Earthlings but those are supposedly mostly rich elite pretty-boys. But yeah, I'll give them a "plausable" on that one which still puts them on about par with Zeon in that department. After getting fucked in the ass by Zakus for the better part of the war I don't see them going all zerg rush in response.

Easily solved story wise by either A) Not making Zeon the biggest Side or B) Have an actual Zeon civil war.

>>10118190
this might work

>>10118190
If we can actually get Wappas into the city we could probably blow our way into the 67th floor directly and mow down the security force. Although sticking Degwin on one would be quite the problem.

The problem would be actually getting a squadron of Wappas past Von Braun security.

Ok, I'm going to expand on my proposed plan of action, Plan Hotel.

Plan Hotel is a standardised plan of action for the infiltration/exfiltration of a building with possible pickup. We have a team of between 3-6 operatives, all in overalls, with a marked van, acting as delivery men. Usually this is a fridge as its large enough to fit someone in, as well as all needed equipment. Guns, armour, any other gear goes in the fridge, the fridge goes back in its box, is resealed and we move. Pass ourselves off as 'emergency delivery replacement', someones old one has broke, we're here to replace the one they have and pickup the old one.

Get to the right floor, open up the box along tape lines, remove equipment, arm up and assault. Roll the fridge in, put the target in the fridge/box/whatever. Change overalls, no blood on the way out. Dump all weapons and armour, clean up and leave.

The second team is on guard incase of enemy reinforcements outside.

Questions?

>>10118229
Any chance we can find a construction vehicle long enough. Even on monorails there has to be something they use to privately haul big loads. We only need one Wappa.

>>10118255
clean, fast and easy. It has my vote.

>>10118229
Cargo lifts. The Wappas are being delivered to a vehicle resale business that sells surplus or stolen Zeon equipment. Only hard part would be getting a truck to park them in the back of.

>>10118190

Might be a LITTLE bit trickier to get those past customs. Alternatively you could call back and have them smuggled through the ducts, but they are pretty big. Pilot suits would be easier, but who's to say that even two of them would be able to support Degwins weight?
Aside from that, all of this will add extra time for Gihren's men to catch up to you and get Degwin moved.

JUST GO IN SHOOTING ALREADY

COMMANDO TIME, GOD DAMN

>>10118255
I like this. We don't have time to wait for Wappas. We could have the Wappas in time to help us as we extract though.

>>10118295
meh, keep surveillance on the hotel and we see if degwin goes anywhere

I think the benefits of the wappas are worth the extra time.
I mean, wappas would make this easymode

>>10118257

This would be nice, yes. Anything that's not suspicious like a Wappa and'll let us infiltrate the place from the top.

I say plan hotel again because even if we fuck up and Degwin isn't even there, we can still ghost right out and no one will know anything is up.

>>10118255
>>10118292

Actually given that there's a war on, it's highly unlikely that Zeon would be selling ANYTHING as surplus.
Now, black marketeering for an extra buck or two... but for that you'd need to find a 'buyer' and yet more bribes to customs officials.

>>10118255

It's a good plan, what's your plan for if Operation Hotel turns into Operation Whisky Tango Foxtrot?

Fridge team:
4 dudes - David, Jol, Zol, Radio Bro.
Ducts team:
6 dudes - demo expert and 5 grunts.
Backup team:
8 dudes - 2 Snipers and the 6 other dudes.

The Fridge team goes and buys a fridge - storing guns, radio gear, an armored suit for Degwin, and medical supplies in it. They put the fridge back in the box, and deliver the fridge past front door security.
Fridge team locates the Security office for this high-rise apartment, and waits near it while they call in the Ducts team.
Ducts team goes in through the ducts, up to degwin's room. the Fridge team makes sure local security doesn't interfere. When the Ducts team is near Degwin's room, Fridge team and Ducts team both storm it.

Backup team has its snipers keep a watch on the apartment building, but the other 6 members ensure that the path to 2 monorail cars is clear.
Ducts and Fridge teams get Degwin out via the vents, to a nearby monorail car, and GTFO as fast as possible back to the outer heaven.
Backup team covers their retreat.

>>10118380
Also on that note. If Degwin is not there, we toss the healthiest guy of the guards we can into the fridge instead for questioning.

If it turns into hell. well we are The Nachtmaren Unit. right? Fuck it, we do what we do best.

>>10118378
>>10118380
>what's your plan for if Operation Hotel turns into Operation Whisky Tango Foxtrot?

Looks like he's got it covered with the 2 snipers and additional on the backup team.

>>10118409
Ducts team confirms or denies the presence of Degwin, or any Ghiren guards. Hopefully Mr. Demolitions can distract them with a flashbang or something.

>>10118431

You know if you filled the standard sized fridge with C4 explosives you could take out a sizable chunk of the city. It would easily level the entire building.

Just saying. Also I think you are placing a little too much faith in airducts, unless this is some crazy US construction thing. I have never seen air ducts large enough to fit a fully grown man in and definatly none strong enough to hold one without collapsing.

>>10118380

Okay this looks solid.

You quickly buy a fridge with cash, as well as some overalls, you book a monorail goods transport to take it and you to Neumann Tower. You load the fridge up with all of the big guns, keeping the concealed sidearms.
You pull up outside and wheel the fridge in through the front doors and into the lobby.

"Can I help you sirs?" The security guard behind the desk asks.

"Yeah, were here to deliver a fridge on short notice to Room 453."

"I see, I'll ring them to alert them that you have arrived."

WHAT DO?

>>10118463

You mean we didn't pick an apartment that was empty and explain we have the keys for it and its ok, we just need to get past the door?

Panic! apparently you didn't think this through. Then knock that guy out.

>>10118481
we're not exactly trained and experienced commandos, you know

just sayin'

>and definatly none strong enough to hold one without collapsing.

Also every interior part is sharp as a knife as nothing gets deburred after cutting.

Silenced pistol.

Trying to restrain him gives him a chance to hit a panic button.

>>10118503

I suppose so. Well, we just need to talk to whoever is on the other end, say they won it or something. Then lament that we won't be having a return on that investment.

>>10118522
we're uh, standing in a hotel lobby.

We shoot someone, we're going to set off an alarm all right

>>10118463
Flip through the papers we probably have with us. Ask one of the other guys if one of the numbers is a three or a five.

>>10118463

Blag it, argue with the guy that SOMEONE ordered that fridge and YOU are there to deviler it, make out that you haven't got ALL DAY.

>>10118491
Don't do this.

Hope we room 453 is expecting a fridge really. If they weren't go back to the van, find a room that's empty, go back and tell the receptionist that they had the wrong room at first and then say don't worry we got the keys we just stupidly forgot to check the number while glaring at the guy in overalls next to us.

>>10118535

The alarm is going to be set off already anyways.

It just gives us a few more minutes of confusion to charge in as fast as we can.

>>10118536
this is smarter then the idea i was going to suggest, so yeah, lets do this. Front desk can't ring unless everyone is sure we are ringing the right person.

The more expansive the venue, the more considerate the employees are about inconveniencing clients.

>>10118563
No. Shooting our way up the stairs is not at all what we need to do. By the time we got to room 67 Degwin would be dead.

>>10118481
...actually. You did.

The phone rings, but since you picked an apartment you knew to be empty. Nobody answers and it just goes to an answerphone.

"Unfortunately, nobody appears to be in."

"Yes, we were told that the occupant wouldn't be in and that we were to leave the fridge outside. If you could remember to inform them when they next arrive that we've delivered the fridge that would be excellent."

"I see sir. I'll open the cargo lift, you can use that to transport the fridge up."

"Thanks."

He pushes a button and a secondary lift door opens up and you all walk inside, unattended.

As the doors close, a member from the Ducts team pipes up.

"Took you long enough."

Luckily the ducts in this builder are (as to code) all interconnected and big enough to support people evacuating in cases of disaster.

"We've hacked into the security feeds for the duration of the op, all we need now is to get to the top and get the mission done. We've also hacked the lift controls to make it look like we stopped on floor 55 instead of the top."

Isn't it nice to have competant underlings?

>>10118605

Great work team, time to kick ass!

>>10118605
Sieg Zeon indeed!

>>10118605
yes it is, remember if this all goes according to plan, to throw a party for everyone involved.
Staff Appreciation day!!!

>>10118605
It really is.

Do we have any idea of the disposition of the forces we're up against?

>>10118605
I'll say! Now arm up.

>>10118605

I do hope that one of the undercover teams is out buying massive ammounts of alcoholica and unhealty food right now.

Since the security feeds are now ours we should have a view of the situation within Degwin's suite! Looping them shouldnt be a problem either!

If we do this right we could eliminate the guards at the lift landing with silenced weapons without the innermost guards knowing whats going on.

>>10118645

4 men in suits with handguns, the real difficulty will be taking them out quickly enough to make sure they don't slot Degwin. Also, you're still running to the clock.

You open up the fridge and arm yourself up with a variety of SMG's, Shotguns and Assault Rifles, and after about 5 minutes the lift doors open.

So, what's the plan from here?

>>10118702
Go to the apartment, bust shit down

>>10118702
everyone designate a separate target and fire simultaneously

easy

>>10118702
Silenced weapons to try and keep things quiet. Save the SMG's and rifles for the serious opposition. Unless a full out firefight erupts then there's no point in holding back.

>>10118702
Deploy casually. Do we need the Guards alive to open the door? Do they have dead-man's switches to explosives or other Gihren-thugs? Are we going to need to blow the door?

Step one is observing what we can from outside the room. If there are Guards, I recommend we subdue them, and hack open the door. If we can't blow it, and have our Infantry Clear. That's Step 2. Step 3 involves us leaving, and a bridge that we'll burn when we get there.

>>10118698

There are no security feeds from inside ANYONES apartment, that would be a collossal breach of privacy. The corridor outside you see just fine, and according to the duct team is guarded by another 2 heavies you'll have to deal with.

>>10118702
Open up on the lift guards with silenced smgs and then flashbang the suite. Drop anyone in a suit and get to Degwin fast. We go in like a SWAT team given greenlight to kill everything standing that's not big, fat, and bald.

>>10118702

We should still have the fridge, so one man with fridge in front of the door knocks, "Delivery". Be sure to look bored. One man either side of the door way, silenced weapons only here. Door opens, kill him and move in, quick quiet and efficient. No need to move onto non silenced weapons unless something goes wrong.

>>10118702

Weapons hidden under coveralls. Move the fridge out like bumbling boorish uneducated deliverymen and make a big fuss on doing the job to the letter.

Try to outtalk the initial guards (probably two on the landing) and draw in as many (as they get tired and call for more help arguing) before opening up.

Then charge.

>>10118792
The Guards will probably say "We didn't order a Fridge, now fuck off." Or something to that effect.

Deliver men push fridge along the hallway. Look lost. See the guards. Walk over casually. Ask for directions to nearby apartment. "Where's 688? I can't find it for shit." Silent shots take them out. They likely have keys. Open door, burst in.

>>10118776

Didn't realise there was stationed guards outside the door. Well, we leave one man behind to keep a hold of our big guns. Three os us roll the fridge along, stop and ask the guards where room "We don't really care this is a distraction to stop looking at the other two" Then the other two shoot them in the heads with silenced guns, with luck the door will be unlocked/they will have a key. Otherwise its breach and clear I suppose.

>>10118847
"Fuck off, we didnt order a fridge."
"Oh man! I've gotta call my manager."
*Pulls out silenced pistol instead of phone.*

>>10118791
>>10118792

Obscuring your bigger weapons, you attatch silencers to your handguns, and then move up pushing the fridge, Zolomon inside, packing a pair of silenced SMG's.

"Hey, what's this?" One of them asks.

"Somebody ordered a fridge?" You ask him.

"What? Nobody ordered a fridge. Shove off."

"Look, I got an order recipt right here for room..." you move to show him an empty clipboard and then fire two silenced slugs into his windpipe, the other catches a bullet through the brainpan from Jolyne.

You then retrieve one of the fallen guards keycards and open the door and wheel the fridge inside.

"Hey what the hell?" Offers one guard before you perforate him with your handgun, two more move to react and you bang twice on the fridge and Zolomon comes flying out like a Jack in Box.
A Jack in the Box armed with twin Sub-Machine Guns, an afro and vaguely defined newtype powers.

I wonder if anyone has BREACHING CHARGES. Otherwise we'll have to send Ramirez in to do everythi-wait. He's dead.

I'm tapped.

>>10118948
>Zolomon comes flying out like a Jack in Box.
A Jack in the Box armed with twin Sub-Machine Guns, an afro and vaguely defined newtype powers.
Oh god. He's gonna throw the SMGs & decapitate them isn't he?

>>10118948
We have GOT to buy Zol some throwing tomahawks some day.

>>10118948

That should leave one more. Assualt teams spreads out to do rapid room clearance to secure the safety of degwin.

Should we use flashbangs/smoke grenades? If we do we're annoucing our presence to the whole building.

>>10119066

No. Stay low profile as long as possible. We want to get Degwin as close to the Outer Heaven as possible before the alarm goes off.

>>10119066
No smoke. It would take a bit to disperse and the remaining guard/ newly arriving guards could use it to hide.

If Gihren's pet doctor is in the apartment, we should try to take him alive. We want as much evidence nailing Gihren as possible, and the doctor would be ideal. See if we can't get him to reveal how he did in Deikum and Gihren's orders regarding Degwin. Record the confession and send it to Garma.

>>10119005
Let's not make things TOO easy for you.

Zolomon leaps up and runs along the wall as bullets shower around him.
Using the fridge as a springboard you leap from it onto the angled securty glass windows and spray a guard coming out from round a corner with your Assault Rifle.

"You know, I always like these low gravity gunfights, reminds me of those old Hong Kong action flicks!" Zolomon shouts.

"Pfft. Zero-G gunfights are where it's at." Jolyne states from the ceiling.

You see one guard make a break for the bedroom and you plug him with a shot from your silenced Handgun, before leaping across the field of fire towards the door.

The remaining guards have set up a barricade with a table and the sofa and Jolyne, Zolomon and the other guy are keeping them pinned down.
You hear the crack of security glass as one of your marksmen begins firing through the windows.
If you hadn't suborned the security computers that WOULD have caused an alarm if nothing else.

You open the door to see Degwin in bed, an IV drip attatch to his arm, to his side you see a doctor about to inject an unhealthy looking substance in him and you shoot the syringe out of his hand, and then to make sure he doesn't cause you any trouble, you shoot him through the kneecap.
The gunshots outside have stopped, the rest of the guards must have been dealt with.
You inspect Degwin, he's alive, but unconcoius, the drip must have been keeping him sedated.

YOUR ORDERS?

>>10119139
Technically, the "Pet Doctor" I think your referring to got killed by Gihren's goons when your parents went to have a chat with him.
That was how we got the location of where he's being held remember?

In any case, what's the exit plan now?

>>10119066
>Should we use flashbangs/smoke grenades?
No
>Flashbangs
Could hurt Degwin
>Smoke
We outnumber the remaining opposition. No use giving them an easier time when it comes to evading us.

>>10119139

Same guy here. If we take him alive, just let him know that he'll be the first to die if he fucks up our escape. Quietly tell him about the time we tortured a man to death, have Zol remark on how bad it was. Let the doctor know this WON'T happen to him if he cooperates with us.

It might freak out our men and make them think less of us until we reveal the whole story, but it'll definitely shut the doctor up.

>>10119145

Keep him sedated. No point for him to wake up now and make a big fuss.

Poke some holes in the fridge and stuff him inside. Wheel it out and tell the guard that we managed to bring the wrong model and you'll be back tomorrow with the right one.

Then hightail it out of there.

Pop the doctor in the arm/shoulder.

>>10119172
If we have a medic get him to look at this IV drip to make sure it isn't the only antidote keeping Degwin alive from whatever Gihren did to him while we get an armored normal suit on him.

We should book it through the vents if we have trouble outside. Otherwise stuff Degwin in the fridge and walk out the front (or back) door.

>>10119145

No survivors, no witnesses. Load Degwin up and get moving. We have live fire so stealth is out of the window, clean ourselves up and make a break for it. Once we're outside we can meet up with the backup team and they can drive Degwin to Outer Heaven while we make our own way back.

>>10119145
Read what's on the IV bag just to be sure it's not something he actually needs. Then commence operation why the hell are we still in this building.

>>10119145
>>10119183

Do this to the doctor. Have Jolyne check the label on the bag in the IV drip and inspect Degwin to see if can be moved.

Leave Fridge in Apartment. Degwin, Zol, and the doctor exfiltrate with the duct team. We walk out the front door normally.

We just delivered a fridge to our customer. Nothing noteworthy has happened at all.

Then we rendevous with the duct guys and find our way back to Outer Heaven.

Also check to make sure we don't have blood all over our coveralls.

>>10119217
>Otherwise stuff Degwin in the fridge and walk out the front (or back) door.

To Door guy on the way back out: They sure must have rough housed their previous fridge! It's got holes punched clean through the door!

Threaten doctor, conk him on the head to knock him out. Get him out with our ventilation guys.

>>10119192
We just shot him in the kneecap. We're liable to bleed his ass out if we pop him again.

>>10119189
If this can be safely done, this is what I'd recommend, although rather than holes, I'd recommend some kind of air tube. I'm willing to bet an industrial fridge could absorb some handgun fire, but let us escape with our unconscious Zeon leader.

>>10119219

True about the live fire. Best bet actually might be to act like people getting out of the building and act like degwin was an old invalid we're helping to evac.

Might as well hit the fire alarm for good measure and confusion.

As outlined in operation Hotel
We change our overalls, stash what guns we can, leave what we can't. Close the door lock up head down stairs like nothing happened.

When we get down stairs to the reception "Damn it, Sorry about that looks like we brought the wrong set of keys, we'll be back in a few hours."

That way if someone is waiting for us, they'll be at the hotel, not following us. Maybe

>>10119331

True, be sure to shout how someone is shooting weapons up there. A gunfight is legitimate reason to flee, also no need to fridge Degwin.

"Him? He fainted, we're going to take him to the hospital, you better call the cops before they kill someone!"

>>10119319

Leaving fridge guy here, I still think it'd be best to get Degwin out through the ducts if at all possible.

Piggyback him on an infantryman if we have to.

If we take a fridge out, take the one currently in the apartment, that way the doorman will just think we're doing our job and won't really remark on anything.

If he asks what broke on the fridge, tell him the owners left a bottle of sherry in the freezer. It broke and fouled up the ice dispenser.

>>10119217

This. let the medic take a look. if it's above his grade, let's just exfil as is, preferably with the big guy in the fridge. IDK about the kneecapped doc though.

>>10119357

If the doorman offers to come up and unlock it for us, just tell him company policy requires us to come back another time, preferably when someone is there to receive us. Confide that it's just a way for the office to charge delivery fees twice.

>>10119219
>>10119217
>>10119189

Okay, so you make an air hole or two in the bottom of the fridge and carefully stuff Degwin in, after the wounded doctor confirms that it's safe to take him off the drip.
You then toss your guns into the fridge as well and return to the cargo lift. Your contact with the Vents team get's back into contact with you.

"That was just in the nick of time, I've got word from the back-up team that a group of black suited men just arrived and went up in the standard elevator. We're going to evacuate now, and that hack we did on the computers isn't going to last for much longer. We should all make it out about the same time you do if we hurry. Don't wait for us."

You exit the lift, with the securty guards talking to each other.

"What do you think that was about?"

"I dunno, but the Hyatt Suite's been paying top dollar for us not to ask questions all week. So I'm not going to start now... Hey buddy, I thought you were going to deliver that thing?"

"Turns out that the owner was just next door, said it was the wrong model and told us to get the right one. Like I care, my shifts up after this regardless."

"Heh, well thems the breaks , well see you."

"And you."

You leave before quickly getting into the transport pod.

"GO GO GO GO!" You bark, and Jolyne hits the button to take you back to the Bar.

>>10119427

What did we do with the doctor?

>>10119427
Get him out of the fridge.

>>10119447

Yeah, we should have killed him if we weren't going to take him with us. Deny the enemy as much intel as we can and whatnot.

>>10119447
Apparently left him alive to staunch the bleeding. Which will be a problem for us if he's still consious when the rest of the black suits get there.

>>10119471

Fuck.

>>10119471

Yeah, we may need to boogity for the OH as soon as we link back up with the rest of the task group. No sense in waiting around anyway

Set a rendesvouz/escape point and time for several weeks in the future in case we need to gtfo and end up leaving someone behind.

As you go, you hear alarms ring and security shutters on the front of the building close down. Looks like you got out just in time.

"You know, daring getaway's are less impressive when they're done in electric monorails."

You comment.

"Hey, when in Rome right?" Jolyne remarks.

The fridge is open, and the medic from the back-up squad is looking over Degwin. He seems unharmed physically, but without a proper medical facility you can't tell for sure. He wont be waking up anytime soon, but he's fine enough to travel.

"Have we heard from the vents team yet?" you ask.

"Nothing yet sir. Last we heard, those shutters were their idea. Plus they wiped the security camera's hard-drives before they left. It's going to take a while for our faces to start circulating to the local authorities, hopefully by that time, we'll be long gone."

You're phone rings.

We might have to manhandle him through the ducts to the ship.

Gihren's men will probably be waiting at the customs and waking up his lordship and explaining will take too long.

>>10119486

Expediting our departure sounds like a VERY good plan. All hell is going to break loose when those goons get word out of what just happened. Our only protection is getting to Outer Heaven before they can react properly and fully close the net on us. They'll probably use the Von Braun authorities to help snare us, and thanks to the doctor we left alive, they have accurate descriptions for everyone.

>>10119517

Check the caller ID.

>>10119517
Answer it?

(In b4 Incognito)

Also. We need a new thread.

"This is Sargeant Hadj, leader of the Vents Infiltration team. We've cleaned and dumped our gear around the back of the building and where making our way back now. Our transports a commercial one, so we have a couple of stops first, so you should expect us about half an hour later than you. Don't wait for us, get Degwin out on the Outer Heaven ASAP. We'll escape via the secondary routes if we have too. Heck, we'll walk to Grenada if needs be, it's not like it's anything we haven't done before."

"Roger, and good work Sargeant. Hope I see you again."

"Yeah, me too."

You arrive shortly. WHAT IS YOUR EXIT ROUTE BACK TO THE SHIP?

>>10119427
Left him alive.

So Gihren finds out.

THAT LISTER FUCKED HIM OVER.

Take that Char, we're a bigger pain in the collective Zabi ass now, with how pissed Gihren's gonna be. And Char didn't even get to kill a Zabi yet.


....OH GOD WE'RE BECOMING CHAR

>>10119568
How badly are we autosaging?

>>10119585

Via the fastest means possible, they have witnesses so we have to assume they know who to look for, so we have to rush.

>>10119585

We need to go through the ducts. Man handle degwin through it if we have to.

Customs are probably alerted and if we go through we might have to shoot our way there.

>>10119585
How close can we get in our current method of transit and what will then be in our way from that point?

>>10119585

We're bringing back a fridge for the officer's rec room. The soldiers should be the ones moving it and should look disgruntled.

Wink at the customs guy and smugly let him know we shanghaied them away from a strip joint to help us out.

>>10119648

I would imagine the first place customs checks for contraband is the inside of the fridge.

>>10119648
just ballsy enough to work, I like it

after all, customs tends to not really give a fuck about stuff that is LEAVING,

>>10119585
The fastest. It will take time for Gihren's black suited thugs to come to the conclusion of breaking their cover and involving Von Braun security so all we really need to look out for right now are more of Gihren's thugs.

Once onboard the OH there is little Gihren's boys can do to hold us here and woe betide any MS force they decide to deploy against us.

Also make sure Degwin has some body armor on.

>>10119640
>>10119632

Ducts are Viable, as is probably a space walk through one of the unguarded air-locks. Customs is pobably out for reasons listed.

>>10119585
Make sure they know we're coming, for a quicker getaway.

>>10119648
Food cover.

But repaint the fridge first with spraypaint to a different color

(Have a grunt go buy the spraypaint), just to be safe. And temp. Plug the airholes while spraying so Degwin doesn't get a lungful.

I'm thinking gray, that has to still be a predominate fridge color (assuming it started at white)

>>10119657
>I would imagine the first place customs checks for a bribe is the palms of their hands.

bribe the everloving fuck out of them. They are literally the last problem between us and massive win.

spin a yarn about picking up a fridge for our (lister's) personal quarters, hint that it's stocked with alcohol that we don't want the ships captain to find out about, and grease their palms with lots of zeon-bucks or whatever they use for money

>>10119693
Now might be a good time to contact the ship and have them do that thing with detaching an escape pod. Launch two of our MS to escort, have Elaine take our Action Zaku.

>>10119693

Manhandle through ducts. Nature's way (headfirst. should be alright for anything his body can fit through).

Alert OH that we're on our way and standby the emergency medical team as well as the MSs and security teams.

Would probably take us long enough that Team 2 will reach OH in time.

Really guys, its time to dump the fridge, it has served us well, but we really need to run now, it will just slow us down.

>>10119738

With the amount you've spent on the fridge and everything else, you are currently out of enough money to really bribe the everloving fuck out of anybody. You've pretty much exhausted the Outer Heavens Z-Bill cash reserves in this OP.

We should probably phone the Ship and tell them that we're coming. Tell them to get into the MS and stay ready to move out.

If we're being obstructed at customs or if our line's being blocked, they are to move in and bust us out. We've got our man. That's reason enough to justify the big guns.

>>10119768
what else would we use to cart around degwin's unconscious ass?
A stretcher?

I, for one, vote airlock. Throw a suit on the old man and hoof it out through an airlock so that we aren't dependent on public transportation (which could get shut down at any moment) or trying to sneak past customs (lolstupid) with a giant refrigerator (lolstupider) with an unconscious guy in in (lolstupidist)

>>10119738

The normal guards are not the problem. It's Gihren's men there that will not be bribable.

If the ducts are the fastest then do that. If the assholes decide to lock them down with blast doors to trap us then don normal suits and have a Zaku deploy from the OH break us out the violent way.

We need support. Call Blaster Mari! She always fought for Truth, Justice, and the Freedom of Zeon! She's sure to help us!

>>10119768
I vote we just wheel the fucking thing through customs, and be like "Yep, it's contraband alcohol, here's a bribe." And if they actually look in the fridge say "Yep, it's Covert ops to rescue Degwin Zabi, here's a bigger bribe."

Also retcon the doctor: Either make him leave with the Vents team, or just murder him. No point leaving him alive if he ain't coming with us.

>>10119804

We're still in a low G environment.

2 fit soldiers should be able to carry him at the very least.

If we go through an airlock in normal suits could we have some MS from the OH come and pick us up or is that going to be very troublesome?

>>10119799
No bribe? :(
Also, how does a fridge bankrupt the outer heaven, lol.

All right, get the fucker out the Airlock. Radio the OH to have the space-capable suits come pick all you fuckers up, and let's dust off.

>>10119824
the doc is irrelevant

in less than 24 hours all he'll be good for is a positive ID on the heroes that rescued Degwin Zabi. Which will already be known by Degwin and probably the rest of Zeon anyway when this whole thing goes public.

Leaving him alive at the hotel isn't going to be a problem, really.

>>10119824
We can't just retcon our bad decisions away. We can deal with this anyways since I get the feeling Gihren's goons put a few bullets in the doc to keep him from squawking to Von Braun security about Degwin.

>>10119824

Do this. Have someone from the ship roll up to the customs supervisor and let him know what's up, and that while Zeon would look favorably on whoever helps keep the situation from devolving into a firefight, they would look MOST UNFAVORABLY on anyone who put Degwin Zabi at risk.

Then have the guy from the ship discretely point out the MS bays on the Outer Heaven.

>>10119853
>>10119854

But how will a normal suit fit the Great Fat Leader?

>>10119804

You could sling him over someones shoulder and then run, if anyone important asks we can say he needs specialist medical attention that is avaliable on one of the ships at the spaceport. Though really, WHATEVER IS FASTEST IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.

THEY KNOW WHO WE ARE.

Though they will be locked in the building for a while and it will take them a while to work out who we are from descriptions from the half bledout doc, but still, we should take full use of this brief time to gain as much ground as possible.

>>10119884

Also, point out that letting the fridge through and not raising a stink keeps Von Braun out of Zeon politics, and thus, a neutral entity.

They really don't want to get involved in an internal Zeon power struggle.

No violence, fast exit, classy as shit, and no risk to Degwin.

Just get to the OH,
We'll deal with problems that come up inbetween as best we can really. We are out of money, right now I'm just glad it went this well.

If anyone stops us, Flash our ID as a special military unit, show the Sovereign in the Fridge. Most people will be to surprised to stop us. If they are persistent we are armed.

Call ahead tell the OH to prep for launch. If we have to recover the other teams we can do that later with civilian vessels.

We can probably just muscle our way through customs at this rate. Be like "rescuing Degwin, assassins on our ass, look the other way for a bit, don't stop us unless you want to majorly piss off Zeon, bye!"

>>10119817
>>10119833
>>10119853
>>10119854
>Also, how does a fridge bankrupt the outer heaven, lol.

By being bought on short notice, plus bribes to get in, plus uniforms (again on short notice) renting the freight transport (short notice) If you had like a week to plan this, it would have been cheaper.

I'm getting mixed messages.
The Vents are shorter, but there are giant fans in the way, which will need to be disabled. Blast doors CAN trap you, but they don't just drop them for any old reason.
The Airlock method would mean that Degwin would have to be accurately and properly put into a space suit without problems, and for you to make a space walk to the Outer Heaven with all the problems walking a vacuum has. It is probably the safest method. Slow though and you run a greater risk of pursuit.

Go for the airlock. Hit the ground running and have MS from the OH pick us up. Von Braun doesn't have the security to stop a couple Doms and we can take any MS Gihren's thugs have.

So. The majority of people simply want to barell Degwin through customs shouting DON'T FUCK WITH US WE ARE HAVING A REALLY BAD DAY JESUS FUCK. I guess we can give this a god if you all really think this is the best idea.

>>10119960
And just going in the regular way results in Customs derping us about.
So, the options are:
Slow ass spacewalk
Fans and Blast doors
Muscling through customs

Blast doors mean the vent walk is right out.
So it's either Slow Ass Spacewalk with great chance of pursuit, or muscling through customs.
I'd say "Go customs". We can iron out the diplomatic kinks of breaking through customs later.

>>10119960

Get a high ranking officer from the ship to tell the customs supervisor what's going on, and exactly how fucked his or her shift will be if they drag Von Braun city into an internal Zeon power struggle and possible civil war.

Vote for the airlock.

Time to launch our MS complement. They can pick us up at the airlock and fly us back.

>>10119960
Airlock with escape pod from our ship. Dewin wont need a normal suit.

>>10119960
see
>>10119947
>>10119921
>>10119918
>>10119884


it's the fastest way possible and speed is of the essence.
If it goes tits up we will be close enough to just blast our way to the Outer Heaven and at worst lose a few redshirts or some shit.

>>10119982

Not worth risking VB switching from neutral to supporting the feds though. Keep the MS team on standby, incase we get chased, otherwise, we use the most covert exit.

now, if they chase our asses and come in hot? pull out all the stops and call in the MS team and the OH to pick our asses up.

>>10119960
You would think that Zeonic infantry would have been trained to put normal suits on unconscious casualties so I wouldn't think Degwin would be a problem.

I say take the ducts though if we can have a MS from OH blast our way out if Von Braun closes the blast doors.

>>10120007

No, not muscling our way through.

Have on of the OH officers square things with them before we arrive so that things don't devolve into muscling our way through.

>>10120007
>>10119960

Well If thats the case the airlock is safer. That's most important, Even if we are pursued, once we are outside, OH can send Wappas to meet us.

>>10120007

Hell no.

Degwin's safety is paramount and above all other concerns.

>>10120007
it occurs to me that they may not recognize Degwin Zabi. Is that a possibility?

If so, we can just leave the fridge open and dress degwin in a regular army uniform and pass him off as s passed-out-drunk fellow crew member that we're carrying back to the shit after some shore leave.

Nobody fucks with drunk sailors after all

>>10120007
This, but with more explosions.

Ideally the craters from the explosions, when seen from above, should spell out "Problem Gihren?"

Have an escape pod from the OH come pick us up as we have a spacewalk like >>10120024

>>10119982

If we can't take over customs with a bunch of MS, tell them to move around to get ready and move around to wherever you are going to exit the colony. Should be save and quick.
We might also want OH to inform the officials of Von Braun that we're evacuating Degwin and anything standing against us will count as aggression against Zeon from now on.

>>10120007
Now that you mention it that does sound like a bad idea.
Airlock gogo.

>>10119960

Technically the fastest way through would be for us to break through customs, not subtle at all, but I'm told this is less of a diplomatic fuck up than landing a ship right outside the city and picking us up from there.

So I'm for heading in a direct line for our ship. Once he's safe on our ship we can call in on Ral to ensure we have safe passage.

>>10120076
>shit
>ship


argh, fuck you hangover

>>10120042

Same guy here. If we can't get someone from the ship to do this for us, WE (Lister) give them the scoop while our men wait quietly behind us.

No need for screaming and freaking everybody out, we just need to come to an understanding.

Hell, we can have Garma or almost any other Zabi make these customs officials filthy rich if they'll only not fuck with us and drag Von Braun into the war.

Offer a major carrot, and emphasize the whole not destroying Von Braun's neutrality aspect.

We're reasonable killers, after all.

I get the feeling customs is going to be replaced by Gihren's thugs who are going to immediately shoot everyone dead. When the guy running the quest asks, "Do you REALLY want to do this" you may be going a rough route.

>>10120076
It's pretty fucking unlikely, Degwin made his millions here in Von Braun. He was famous here before Zeon Sum Deikum ever even started spouting about Contolism and Spacenoids.

>>10120085

Okay, so Vents appear to have been nixed. It's down to whether or not Girhen has agents in customs.

>>10120125
shhh

we're railroading the gm here, now stop messing this up

Also in light of what other people are saying, we don't go through customs, we avoid the fuck out of it and head DIRECTLY for our ship.

>>10120125
This is probably true. Let's just Spacewalk.
Get an escape pod out, rescue the Degwin.

>>10120143
Well I guess having another balls to the wall shoot-out that may drag MS into the equation to fight-off mining MS with guns would be cool as well.

Gihren, being a Magnificient Bastard, probably has most of their officers dancing on his palm.

>>10120148
We can probably do that faster if we get out into space from an airlock and have the ship pick us up, I think.

>>10120135
keep in mind that gihrens goons can't really just shoot Degwin in public in the middle of customs.

That would royally fuck Gihren over when we bring up that little teacup and everything else we've been uncovering.

They may try to arrest us and take us to a back room and THEN shoot us all, but a public shootout is highly unlikely.
which means we should have ample opportunity to get the drop on them by starting a public shootout, of course

>>10120125
Yeah, on second though I agree with this guy.
The first place we are going to go is Customs, It's the fastest way. So Gihren proably has some scheme there, we can best avoid it all by the air locks.

Call OH, have Wappas come to escort Soverign Degwin. Have MS Team on standbye as our "oh shit" button.

Consider the possibility of announcing to Von Bruan management our situation. They may just stand out of the way. Gihren is bad, but not as bad if Von Bruan security is also stopping the OH from launching.

>>10120135

Have an MS or two from the Outer Heaven hanging out near customs.

Have a couple of our guys not on fridge detail act like drunk sailors returning from liberty. If there's a new shift at the gate, or they seem overly watchful, we abort and go for the airlock.

I maintain that the risk of blowing VB's neutrality all to hell by blowing a customs station all to hell if things go south is probably a worse idea than dealing with a little chase in the vents till we get outside the city where the OH and our MS compliment becomes a factor.

>>10120194

I like this.

>>10120189

Then again with both sides using standard-issue zeon weapons, whats to stop him killing everyone and blaming it on us? It'll be his word against ours and we'll be screwed royally.

>>10120222
What was Degwin doing in Von Braun without Kycillia knowing. She wouldn't let Gihren pull that.

>>10120194
Have a small group take a look at the customs barrier. If things look even a little off, we go for an airlock.

>>10120191
>>10120191
>>10120191

OH BOY!

WAPPAS! :D

>>10120194
Don't Deploy MS, that'll REALLY tip our hands. We just need to keep them on High Alert and Ready to back us up at a moments notice.

>>10120275

Changing my vote to this.

guys, wait


what if we used a nonlethal device on one of the MS's?
Have a MS nearby when we go through customs, if things go tits up scatterbeam and blind the fuck out of everyone as we make a mad dash for the OH.
Alternatively, an Ms smoke grenade. That should produce enough smoke to completely choke out the customs terminal while we make our escape

I'm just saying, you can use a mobile suit for something other than shootan and smashan