Exile and 8 of the hunters back on the hunt.


New month please.

Harry shall be a paid underworld informant who we will not trust in the least. If his tips pan out, he gets a bonus, if they don't he gets a disloyalty-stab to the throat.

Hey Quest Lord, I just want to say even though the last thread was a bit of a disappointment and everyone is getting bitchy that this is still fun. I enjoy these quests and hope that the prior thread is not going to discourage more threads in the future.

>>7201733
Indeed, I rather enjoyed the thread.
Even with the rampant frivolous bloodthrist.
Waste of resources. *sigh*

Exiling is more or less letting him go scot free. If we can use him he'd fill a niche that we don't currently have skills for.

cheers, >>7201733

First opinion to 3 posts gets to happen. GO.

Finish this arguing and get this shit back on the road.

>>7201733
Same. This quest IS fun, when it doesn't get bogged down. OP, be more forceful when situations like this arise. Make a decision, and move on.

Work them all super hard in the quarry, feed them meagerly, send out most of the hunters. Keep 2 of them as MANHUNTERS to keep an eye out for other intrusions into the forest.

>>7201751
see
>>7201750

Employ 'Arry, but watch him like a freaking hawk.

>>7201750

Work bandits at level 2.

Keep Harry as paid informant.

Assign the three bandits to hard labour, exile the leader after stripping him of armour and weapons. If he comes back, all bets are off.

>>7201750
>>7201755
>>7201757
Sealing it with the third. Pay him, but double check all his info.

>>7201761

This is agreeable.

>>7201751
indentured criminals get 1/x rations to the peon where x is how hard you're working them.

Work them to death and feed them nothing

>>7201765
This seems to be the choice then, though the only post regarding work says hard so 4?

Work them at level 2

>>7201773

2 is twice as hard as a peon, with half as much food.
They'll probably die at that, but perhaps we can get a longer duration of labor.

>>7201765
Done.

1s/month good?

>>7201770
On no rations they won't get anything noticeable done. on 1/5th rations they'll work like dogs for a month, than most of them will die. If they;re not working hard on 5 they'll be killed.

>>7201782

If this holds true, I support two.

>>7201784
I'm fine with this too.

>>7201783

Agreeing just to get things moving.

>>7201783
Level two. I want them to do something before dying.

1s per month plus bonus for reliable data sounds good.

>>7201783

All agreeable. Also you mentioned Leold recommending a course of action before. Does that mean he is back with the skilled laborers?

>>7201783

1s/month works for us, but make it clear that he'll pay for treachery with his life.

Also, he'll need to account for his activities to earn his keep - we don't want him sitting on his arse for a month and reporting "yup, everything looks fine here" to collect his coin.

He needs to show results.

>>7201799

>Ummmm, nope. You just think that's what he wound say.
oops.jpg

>>7201803

Obvious, but I agree.

Ok, now that shitfight is done, new month. Just let me add in this indentured criminals bit to my spreadsheet

>>7201803

Definitely. He needs to report evidence for either trouble or for peace. *Why* he thinks the situation is a certain way, and give us a way to check it out.

BEFORE YOU DO THAT, let's study alchemy. And let's make some wine from rice like that one guy said. It's pretty famous in Asia. It might be a rarity here.

>>7201807

Darn, can't wait to get our hands on some new workers.

>>7201817
Do we even KNOW how to do it?
It would be a waste of resources if we just experiment with it.

Now that the Tannery should be finished we should build stables so that animals don't die in the winter. Then after that we should fix up the celler in the keep.

Query: Is the temple of Artagus still unmanned? If so, why is it unmanned?

>>7201831
DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW TO TURN MUSHROOMS INTO ALE? Doesn't fucking matter, but here:

>Unlike wine, which is made by fermentation of naturally sweet grapes and other fruit, rice "wine" results from the fermentation of rice starch converted to sugars. This process is akin to that used to produce beer

>>7201838
I didn't say if wikipedia knows.
I asked if our pesants know.

>>7201837
Probably because we have no priest of Artagus yet and it is in no immediate danger of assault so we haven't placed anyone to protect it.

>>7201843
Why the sudden expectation of realism?

>>7201843

They know how to make turnip scumble, the process of fermentation is familiar to them.

The general principle of making booze from sweet or starchy things is pretty similar across the board.

I saw we abstain from Alchemy the next 2 months.

Let Erik finish translating the damn magic scroll.

>>7201847
Because like you pointed out in the first post it would be a RARE thing.
Idiot.

>>7201847
We're only able to make what Erik or the peasants know how to. As evidenced by our previous threads the peasants aren't an intelligent lot so it's quite reasonable to assume they don't know the art of creating rice wine. Still Erik might know so it's worth a shot.

>>7201862
Fermentation is fermentation!

>>7201846

Indeed. I was considering that we *do* have Manhunters now though. Perhaps we could have a division of them begin devotions to Artagus, and start training in long-range tracking and assassination.

NEW MONTH
Month: TUNE

TRESURY
Gold Incoming 24.84
Gold Outgoing 1.6
Gold Profits 23.24
Total Gold 79.815
Debt 0

STOCKPILES
Lumber Cut 60
Lumber Used 49.7
Lumber Created 10.3
Lumber Stockpile 32.5
Max Stockpile 200
Stockpile Spare 167.5

Food Grown 15
Food Hunted 17.6
Food Eaten 22.7
Food Brewed 3
Excess Food 6.9
Excess Stored 0
Excess Wasted 6.9
Food Stockpile 65
Max Food 200
Stockpile Spare 135

Skins Gathered 17.6
Skins Used 0
Skins Created 17.6
Skins Stockpile 0
Max Skin Stockpile 0
Stockpile Spare 0
Leather Created 0
Leather Stockpile 0
Max Leather Stock 0

Ale Brewed 3
Ale Drunk 0
Ale Created 3
Ale Stockpile 13
Max Stockpile 200
Stockpile Spare 187

Stone Quarried 11.2
Stone Used 0
Stone Gained 11.2
Stone Stockpile 22.8
Max Stone 1000
Stockpile Spare 977.2

POPULACE 121
Workers 92 Peasants 64 Hunters 8 Peat Gatherers 20 Builders 67
Soldiers 14 Men at Arms 5 Yeomen 7
Milita on duty 2 Peasant Milita Manhunters 2
Indentured Criminals 3 Quarry 3
Average Work Level 2 Work level 2
Advisors 11

>>7201861
Calm down man, don't want a repeat of last thread.

>>7201859
I agree, but watch if we'd stuck with it we'd have gotten natural twenties on our rolls, I know it.

>>7201870
So you would drink the runoff from a cesspool?
That is fermented too.

NET GROWTH 0
Growth 3
Local Growth 2
1 Miagrant

Deaths 3
2 of old age/illness
1 in a building mishap

LIVESTOCK 29
Cattle 10

Goats 16

Horses 3
Riding 3

TOOLS AND SUPPLIES
Carts 3 Quarry 0 Peat 3
Ropes 3 Used 3 Spare 0
Small Ropes (1d5) 3 Used 3 Spare 0
Medium Ropes (1d15) 0 Used 0 Spare 0
Fuses 3
Magic Scroll 1 Months to tranlation 2
Hunting Scroll 1 Taught 1 Untaught 0
Spearheads (steel) 25 Used 12 Unused 13
Crude bows 3
Crude knives 11
LAND
Turnip Patches 30 Units Turnips 15
Rice Plots 10 Units Rice 0 Months to harvest 2

>>7201881
If it was yeast-fermented rice.

We know how to make beer, I hope--so let's try the same process... only use rice as the stock.

WORK
PEASANTS 64
UNASSIGNED 0
HERDING 3
Goat Herding 2
Cattle Heading 1
FARMING 50
Turnip Farming 30
Rice Farming 20
GATHERING 6
Gathering Wood 6
Quarrying Stone 11

PRODUCING 3
Brewing 3
OTHER 2
Renovating Town 2

BUILDERS 67
Tannary 67 Rate 2.1 Draught 4 Carts 0 Ropes 0
Total 500 Progress/Month 149.1 Total Done 500 Total Remaining DONE! Rope Bonus 0
Lumber Used 49.7 Stone Used 0

HUNTERS 8
Unassigned Hunters 0
Hunting 8
Searching Forest 0
Manhunters 2


PEAT GATHERERS 20
Gathering Peat 20 Peat Gathered 27.6 Peat Price (gold) 0.9 Profit made 24.84
Carts 3

>>7201881
If it tasted delicious, you bet your sweet ass I would.

LODGINGS 207 Total Spare Room 42 Homeless 0
VILLAGE 120 Huts (5) 24 Share Houses (10) 0
Some Room Lodgers 100 Room Spare 20
THOM'S MERCY 60 Huts (5) 0 Share Houses (10) 6
Some Room Lodgers 50 Room Spare 10
KEEP 27
KEEP ROOMS 13 Poor Rooms (1) 3 Decent Rooms (1) 5 Good Rooms 5
Poor Rooms Spare 3 Decent Rooms Spare 3 Good Rooms Spare 0
Some Room Lodgers 7 Rooms Spare 6
BARRACKS 14 Size 20 Soldiers 14
Some Room Spare Room 6

HIRED 2 Total Cost 1.6
Dan Ganawb 1 Cost/Mason 0.5
Urist 1 Cost 1
Harry 1 Cost 0.1

INDENTURED CRIMINALS 3 Total guards needed. 1
Yet to be assigned 0 Guards 0 Escaped 0
Quarry 3 Guards 0.6 Escaped 0

>>7201897
How much labor would be needed for a stable?

Guys, I think you are overlooking one important fact.
We can store rice pretty damn well.
We can't store turnips at all at the moment.
If we switch from brewing turnips to rice, we'll end up with more spoiled food, and less food stored per month.

>>7201897
Assign 60 peasants to building stables. Assign four remaining peasants to quarry.

>>7201901
Assign a guard to indentured servants.

Hay! We have a peat bog nearby!
That means lots of nitric acid to be had if we precipitate out the nitrate.
We just need...
Do we have access to Sulfuric Acid, aka Oil of Vitriol?
Or perhaps Green Vitriol to make the acid?

>>7201897

Now that the tannery's done, next up is stables for our livestock over winter - really, just a cattle shed or whatever would do, it doesn't need to be an architectural masterpiece. How quickly can we throw up something like that?

Also, Sylem's plan to burn our village has me concerned. We have a well or similar water source, right? If so, make sure that the peasantry is aware of what to do in case of fire - bucket chains, that kind of thing.

>>7201911
Let me fix your numbers for you.
Assign 63 builders to work on stable. Remaining 4 go to work in quarry.

Also, all ropes to be used on stable work.

>>7201817
Did it for last month, lets give new month a roll.

Also, wasn't there a merchant you wanted to visit? Retroactively send Urist with some cash?

>>7201906
For 5 horses, 300. For the 3 you have? 180.

Asking Erik about rice wine, he says he has no clue how to make it, but it's enjoyed in the south and east of Erondia.

Progress on Leold and Priest of Artagus.

Also, who are this settings war gods, what are they like and what do their priests do.

>>7201931
This

>>7201947
Can we build the stable with a modular design, so it can be expanded?

>>7201947
How much for a barn that would let us stable many horses, and a bunch of our animals? Cause THATS what I was really looking for.

>>7201947
>Also, wasn't there a merchant you wanted to visit? Retroactively send Urist with some cash?

Please.

rolled 17 = 17

Alchemy

>>7201975
Nice.

>>7201947

Rather than a stable, more like a shed for livestock so they don't freeze to death in WRECKTEMBER.

>>7201975

I accept this roll.

>>7201947
Yes, we wanted to send Urist with some men/money to ply his trade. He was to visit Wirt (not certain on the name) to pick up our ring of leadership.

>>7201947
I thought we agreed to send Urist out a two threads back looking for some animals, and as many wagons as he could muster.

>>7201918
Autodone.

>>7201943
This? Or round it to 60 workers with 7 new quarrypeons?

>>7201943
Roll for ropes. 3d5 times 3.

rolled 5, 4, 5 = 14

>>7202000
Don't try to stop me.

rolled 5, 5, 1 = 11

ropes

>>7202011
UNPOSSIBLE

>>7202011

Well done!

>>7202000
What's the projected build number that that number of workers would supply us with?

rolled 2, 2, 4 = 8

Last rope roll

>>7202011
You're hired.

>>7202011
>>7202027

I'm new to this quest, too.
Is I lucky?

If we can retroactively send Urist to pick up Wirt's ring (and pay for it, of course, perhaps with a bonus seeing as how both rings helped us avoid critical failure), I'm all for doing it. If we can't, then I suggest we send Urist after him anyways while he's out and about.

Alchemy is all and good, but I say we lay off of it for two months so we can get that Scroll translated. We're not making much progress anyways...

>>7201947
Build a stable that can hold 10 horses. 600 total work needed correct?

>>7202043
Alchemy's already been rolled for. Personally, I like the idea of Tom Green becoming a mad scientist.

>>7202055

Definately. Nitrocellulose and FLESHTOGOLD, on the way.

>>7201931
Cattle shed?

500 work for 20 animals.
300 for 10
160 for 5

>>7201985
Done. We're improving

>>7201989
Adding the ring to his jobs to do is all.

>>7201970
All aboveground things can be expanded. Inground things are trickier.

>>7201931
You have the river, and that's about it. You add bucketchains/ etc. to the militia drilling they do of a friday arvo.

>>7202055
OH SHI-

Thomas Greene = Tom Green

>>7202055
We're more of a pretty kind scientist. Make a ray gun that gives people stylish hats and turns rotten turnips into cotton candy kind of shit.

>>7202067
No.

Thomas Green = /tg/

Let's build a fountain in the center of our main village.

>>7202066
We have 29 animals to save for winter :/

>>7202077
It can be both.

>>7202087
Not all of them would die outside, but we should probably butcher a couple of them before winter comes.

>>7202087

Can we make them coats?

>>7202089
OP mentioned threads back that he didn't know who Tom Green is.

Lucky bastard.

>>7202066
Start with the 20 animal stable.

>>7202064
>>7202055
Note Alchemy here is science/magic but is much more of the science at the basics. Magic alchemy is one branch of sorcery, whereas science alchemy is what you're learning atm, and what most alchemists do.

>>7202038
>>7202026
>>7202000
Whoops, meant 3d5. Took the best one for my mistake the times 3 was redundant, had the 3 for *3*d5 :Embarrassedface

>>7202100
Indeed, the stonger ones would be less likely to die. Since I havn't made a mechanic for that on the spreadsheet, we'll just have to see.

>>7202103
Also, I live in Australia, one of the better bits. Which is winning the birthplace lottery.

>>7202073
Fuck fleshtogold, TURNIPTOCANDY!

>>7202083
The village s probably would appreciate a small fount to gather water and wash clothes, hell the place could be developed further later in to a market place.

>>7202087
Not all of them would die outside.

>>7202136
Put it on the list of to build but don't get around to, like the smoke house and turnip cellar?

>>7202148
please do

>>7202148

Do we have access to any of the Vitriols?

>>7202136

I'm in agreeance that we should have at least something in our villages, if not a fountain then at the very least a well. Fountains would be nice, though, if our builders can manage.

What about a road between our villages?

>>7202140
Indeed, if we assume the strongest are outside, and we put the rest inside we can get a fairly decent thing. Also, where was the tannery again?

So, 20-space cattleshed please. Assign all builders to that, should be able to get it done before winter hits. Meantime, I think it'd be good to assign a few more people to the brewery to build up our booze stockpiles. Sweet, sweet booze.

What's the general sentiment of the populace towards their lord?

We need to mix labor between the Stable and Turnip Cellar.

With winter coming, we want to be able to store as much food as possible.

>>7202148
After the stables please queue up the Celler in the keep, smoke house and then the small fount.

>>7202170

I think the general consensus was to put the tannery in the north-west near the swamp - that way the wind only blows tannery-stink towards the populated areas when it'd be blowing swamp-stink anyway.

>>7202163
huh?

>>7202164
Well, your mason is almost ready to leave the quarrying to the quarrymen, so perhaps he can help if tou want a fountain. Otherwise, it'll be a well.

>>7202170
WAIT A MOMENT!
Are those ashes from a swamp fire?
Ashes filled with Potassium Nitrate?!

>>7202170
Close to the swamplands and the river. That general area.
>>7202172
The people love us!

>>7202182

Oil of Vitriol, Green Vitriol, etc.
Aka Sulfuric Acid or Iron Sulfate.
An essential component of alchemy, and quite useful for making deadly chemical weapons or explosives.

>>7202182

Go for a well for now, it's easier and more practical.

What did the 17 for alchemy do for us?

>>7202186
>>7202192
>>7202202

I can feel our alchemic powers GROWING!

>>7202172
Positive, far higher then most lords. If they're unhappy they'll wander off, find another lord to work for. But these peasants think highly of you.

>>7202174
Mix Labour bad. All builders together.

It's better for you guys too. Seeing as BOTH buildings will be done at the same time with max and 1-job labour, but with one-job the FIRST building will be done faster. If that makes sense?

Does anyone want to build a few watchtowers? One near the woods, one near the swamps, and maybe another up north past Thom's Mercy?

>>7202216
This does sound useful.
Will come in handy when we start training snipers.

>>7202215

Basically, if we have 50 builders and two buildings which each require 100 builder-months, we can either split the builders and have both buildings complete after four months, or we can concentrate on one building at a time and have one building complete after two months, and the other one two months after that.

Better to have one complete building than two half-complete ones.

>>7202182
If the mason can be spared, than a fountain.

>>7202202
1.7 more alchemy skill.

Total 3.2

>>7202186
Maybe, your alchemy isn't good enough for much yet.
>>7202192
Not on your person. Look into buying some?

Also, I'm going to call it a night, I got shit on tomorrow, so no thread until monday. 6pmish, mytime as per usual. 24 + 18 = 42 hors from now.

Archive on the way out please, and make sure to archive the other one. Even if it was a shitfight, it's good so I can look back, and also to keep all the parts.

>>7202245

FOUNTAINS.
THEY REQUIRE PUMPS.
Water. Pumps.

-So it's 63 Builders to work on the new 20 animal barn.
-4 Builders transferred to work in Quarry.
-Go play with Stark in our free time

I don't think anyone else really needs to be done this month, does it?

>>7202248

Why... yes. We are looking for some Vitriol.
Being the budding alchemist, we could use it for... things.
Like etching... or making nitric acid.
*giggle*

>>7202250
Sorry to disappoint you, but...
FOUNTAINS
They require gravity

>>7202268
And pressure. Don't forget pressure.

>>7202268

Obviously.
AND PUMPS.
Note where the water pressure comes from.
It comes from a pump.
Under the fountain.

>>7202278

Powered by...?

>>7202284

That would be the problem with building a fountain now, wouldn't it?

>>7202277
one creates the other.

>Since clothes were washed with ashes in Provence, the water that flowed into the garden contained potassium, and was valuable as fertilizer.

We've got ashes. We've got clothes. We've got fields. If we get a fountain with this kind of system, it'd help our farming too.

>>7202293

Jump in place repeatedly.
Unless there is a water source above the fountain,
either up a hill, or in a tower, piped into the fountain,
no water will come out of the fountain.
And the river is certainly not above the fountain.

>>7202278
I see someone plays too much dorfan fortress and not enough real life engineering.

>>7202278

Fountains were around long before pumps were, there are ways to make it work. Artesian wells, aqueducts, people dumping buckets into a resevoir. They're not all high tech, but not having a pump doesn't necessarily bar us from having a fountain.

>>7202310
>>7202317

I love being criticized by people who have no idea what they are saying.
Is the source of water (the river) *above* the fountain?
No. Because the town would flood.
So you want to devote peasant labor to carrying water buckets up a hill just so they can flow down into a fountain?

And the likelihood of a pressurized reservoir *above* the river? *sigh*

>>7202336
This. Even a rain-fed reservoir, or piping from the swamp is much larger engineering feat than people make it out to be.

>>7202336
>>7202349
An 'Archimedes' screw' doesn't seem like much of an engineering challenge.

I dont like the fact that the granary is close to the site of the last fire. Thise things explode when they burn

>>7202336
If a town can never be higher than a river then where the fuck do you think water comes from? How do aqueducts work? You're a fucking retard.

water flows downhill, right? You can just find the highpoint of the river and make a small gradient downwards, or perhaps Waterwheel + Archimedes screw to force the water down a pipe.

So, exactly what benefits come from raising our Alchemy score, anyway?

As in, do we learn alchemy recipes, or become more able to detect poison at certain Alchemy knowledge values, what?


Further, How does one learn about magic Alchemy? The more we can learn about alchemy in general, the better in my mind.