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  • File : 1260471327.jpg-(137 KB, 598x598, 1253468524399.jpg)
    137 KB Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)13:55 No.7077968  
    Okay guys, homebrew setting coming up. I've been working on a science fiction setting to get out of 40k, so I've been thinking pretty hard and my brainstorming has led me to what I am going to propose to all of you. I've really tried to get this down pat because I want to keep using it for things besides RP's, like short stories and shit like that. Tell me what you think.

    Background:

    At the beginning of the 22nd century, the United Nations asks for a joint colonization effort. USA, China, the EU, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Russia, and the Commonwealth of Nations start working on it. Dozens of planets are colonized under the joint multinational organization with one not being predominantly more than the other in terms of nationality or societal influence. So this goes on, with wars still being fought on earth, but the UN being largely unaffected by them until it absolves at the towards the end of the 24th century when the first real nuclear war breaks out on earth, destroying everything and leaving it a barren, frozen wasteland.

    However, since the United Nations had developed a naval power to serve to protect colony ships against bandits and everything, remains a neutral party and tries to maintain order on Terra Nova, the first colony established outside of the solar system as the rest of the colonies dissolve into a bloody civil war.

    Faster than light travel had not been developed, but faster than light communication had which is why everything broke down so fast, even though no one really knew who launched the missiles first, or who it was against who initially. The planet now have no allegiance to anyone but themselves, and even then planets are as splintered as earth is in terms of nation states, so now mankind is even more split up than it ever has been with over dozens of worlds with no centralized power.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)13:56 No.7077990
    The United Nations fleet, now having halted the war on Terra Nova, begins to quell the wars on many nearby planets; calling the political entities into creating cease fires and the fleet admiral sets up a congress on Terra Nova since ethnic organizations and political groups actually span multiple planets. And as such the representatives to the congress aren’t actually representing world they came from, but the political entity they live within. For instance, three nations loyal to Russia on three separate planets are all the same political power.

    The United Nation States of America is one of these organizations, along with the European Union’s (however due to it being more or less a single entity, the “Union” is dropped) Defense Directorate, and the Commonwealth of Nations (holy shit that's a lot of countries) staying together in its entirety. Several independent countries remain as such, like China/Taiwan, Russia, Japan, and Korea.

    None of the human organizations actually own any one planet which is why they're still all technically nation states; so all of the planets are now as splintered as Earth was and the potential for complete self assured destruction looms over about 80 odd worlds

    Every organization has its own complete military: army, navy, marines (naval and space), air forces, space fleets, and etcetera. The UNSA has what they call the Colonial Army, which specifically on planets, and then the Colonial Marines, which serve in the navy, move between them as support for each.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:02 No.7078058
    how do you have a war without some kind of FTL travel? even going at close to the speed of light, going between systems would take forever, not to mention relativity playing hell with planning and logistics.

    the average system would have a few years at least to prepare for an incoming attack force.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:02 No.7078061
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    [Note, my art skills aren't the best so try not to judge their entire concept around my shitty abilities]

    Then the European Defense Directorate actually has the most powerful military since it is funded by the descendents of over a dozen independent countries as it is. The United Nation States of America are all descended from the United States and are the second most powerful. The United Kingdom had actually left the EU to participate full time in the Commonwealth of Nations, which is the third most. The China/Taiwan Union is next, then Russia, Israel, Japan, and Korea. (North Korea collapsed and fell into a civil war in the mid-21st century, leaving it open for South Korea to annex it, ending the century long conflict once and for all).

    Then aliens are discovered. They aren’t aggressive to where they end up uniting all of mankind. They're very much capable of reason, and see mankind as a potential trade partner/ally. Their first contact was with the EDD, they discovered a human settlement on a backwater world they had just begun to colonize as their own. Negotiations are short, and shots are fired. No one knows who fired first. In retaliation they quickly begin overrunning Defense Directorate's positions, and route their military at large, with a few hold out positions further back from the frontier. The First Contact quickly turned into our first war with another intelligent species.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:04 No.7078088
    The aliens realize how splintered the humans are, and only specifically target EDD settlements and bases. Their armies are fast and well armed. Their well armored but once it is pierced they go down quickly, having roughly the same physical constitutions as our own. The minor factions do not wish to be in the war, as they are picking the remains of the EDD colonies along the border, knowing well that the aliens are only targeting them.

    The UNSA is called into a temporary alliance with the EDD (who were originally in a non-aggression pact) and begin an enormous counter offensive against the aliens and end up destroying the majority of their held space, winning a decisive victory and forcing them back out of human space for good. The UNSC sent a space fleet towards what they thought was the alien’s homeworld. The war raged for 160 years. In the last year of the war, the UNSC fleet arrived and bombarded the planet, glassing it over and effectively destroying the head of the jockey’s social structure. The war ended in the mid-28th Century.

    The aliens, now without any central government, are called to an unconditional surrender and the Joint EDD/UNSA begins a reconstruction effort on the nation and the alien's colonies. That is where the story begins.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:05 No.7078098
    Footnotes:

    - China had evolved into a capitalistic oligarchy toward the end of the twenty first century; the socioeconomic policies remain largely the same except the state leaders are put in place through a hereditary system.

    - Russia remained a republic, but during the mid twenty first century it began annexing its former soviet states, and quickly became comes back as a world power, even more so than it was as the USSR.

    - China finally acknowledges Taiwan as an independent nation in the late twenty first century; this is during the second generation of the oligarchy.

    - The European Union becomes a true federation, with the nations that reside within becoming nothing more than states, much like that of the United States of America. This forces the United Kingdom to leave and focus its attention on the Commonwealth of Nations, which quickly rises to a world power.

    - Colonization ships are fast-as-light generation ships, able to reach the farthest point of human controlled space within 110 years. Mankind had developed Superluminal Communication via tachyons in the mid 22nd century, which led the way to FTL travel. Satellites powered by Dyson Bubbles transmit tachyons to other stations by space-time distortion via alcubierre drives, the only drawback is that there must be two active stations for the tachyons to be transmitted and received. Mankind cannot use FTL travel anywhere beyond controlled space.

    - Sol is within a Dyson sphere, and in the civil war after the nuclear one on earth, its location is lost to the ages.

    - During the Civil War, the Japanese heirs to the Imperial Family reinstate their rule and Japan once again becomes an empire.

    - After the First Contact War, EDD and USNA begin to notice an increase in Chinese/Taiwan and Russian presence throughout the frontier (former alien controlled space).
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:05 No.7078099
    >>7078058
    Congratulations, you are literally illiterate.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:12 No.7078183
    this sounds really cool. this would make a badass tabletop if someone would take the time to make some planets.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:14 No.7078197
    The setting will be very much like the South's reconstruction after the Civil War. For the RP I was planning on having the players start on a core world where they had decided that they want to be spacers, but they don't have enough cash for a ship, and the game would begin with them having to procure one, either through legal or illegal means.

    Holy shit I need to proof read more.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:14 No.7078199
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    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:14 No.7078201
    >>7078061
    Hang on a second, I recognise that image... Senister? that you boy?
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:15 No.7078208
    >>7078201

    Depends, who's this?
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:21 No.7078278
    >>7078058

    If you go to a site called Orion's Arm and do some poking around, you can probably find a thorough explanation of how things are done in multistellar empires without FTL. OA is another setting that doesn't have FTL proper, and they have actual Ph.Ds working out the logistics and everything to make it all scientifically plausible.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:27 No.7078353
    If anyone wants to help me design planets or help go further into the background, any suggestions will be appreciated.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:29 No.7078375
    Some nagging questions. What is the motivation of the UN to ask for the colonisation of space? And how did the UN achieve so much influence?
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)14:33 No.7078428
    The United States had put a station on the moon during the latter part of the 21st century, and had begun to use those resources to deploy a colony on Mars. The United Nations realize the dangers the United States could pose on the rest of the world without having any other sort of extra-planetary system, so they request that it becomes a joint organization for the future with the entire world to benefit, with the USA keeping sovereignty over its already claimed installations.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)14:33 No.7078431
    >>7078208
    I would be the huge tyranidfag you (if you are who I think you are) know as Sawblade.

    Anyways, you know I like your stuff, good to see you managed to get this project going properly. Keep up the work dude.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)15:16 No.7079076
    You could incorporate some District 9 into it with slums for the alien refugees, and the human scientists frequently looking through their populations to find their inventors to learn how to incorporate FTL on human ships.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)15:31 No.7079244
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    What are soldiers like in this setting? All covered in power armour or what?
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)15:52 No.7079489
    >>7079244

    There's a lot of different kinds, light infantry that would resemble the Colonial Marines from Aliens in terms of armor strength and firepower, to powered exoskeletons, though not like Marines, more like the kind from STALKER, to powered armored NBC suits also made to fight in vacuums. Honestly it depends on what faction its involving.

    The EDD would use fast tanks and light infantry support, relying more on anti-air and their space fleet instead of a conventional air force.

    The UNSA would rely more on powered infantry armor and mechanical warsuits (kind of litle battletech) over tanks, and would use an airforce over its space fleet, which is used more to transport the colonial marines between planets to reinforce the colonial armies.

    China and Russia are both behind those two technologically so they would rely on what we would consider conventional armor and infantry, with air support over air dominance.

    The Commonwealth would derive most of its power from its space fleet, and would have a large naval capacity (both spacial and planetary) to retain dominance over the global and system wide economic policies, much like with the British Empire of the 19th century. Their land armies are numerous, using mostly orbital bombardments and air support to reinforce light armor and light to heavy infantry, which are designed to hit fast and hard to capture locations and keeping them instead of dealing with armies directly.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)15:55 No.7079531
    >>7079489
    Britania rules the space?
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:01 No.7079608
    >>7079489
    Btw I think the lack of heavy armour might be a tad unreaslistic, depending on the kind of ground warfare that will take place. The reason most western armies are thinking about cutting down on their MBTs is the tendensy for wars to be fought in third world countries by rapid response groups.

    Seeing as the only factions left are rather large and well funded, a total lack of MBTs would be unlikely.

    But then who am I to say how future wars will be fought.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:02 No.7079612
    >>7079244
    Covered in BEEEEEES
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)16:03 No.7079625
    >>7079489

    Not quite, every faction has a space fleet, its just that the Commonwealth's is the strongest, and therefore has more influence over the galactic political arena.

    Overall the EDD are the strongest militarily, but the UNSA is a balance between the two powers in terms of space and planetary forces. Fighting between fleets usually occurs around planets when one faction is invading another, as the core worlds especially are ruled by more than one, if not all, of the factions simultaneously much like the nation states on Earth right now.

    They only fight if they have to, with most of the ships being there for orbital support or denying support to the enemy (engaging transports, attacking bombardment stations, etc...)
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)16:06 No.7079659
    >>7079608

    There are at least eight human factions with many smaller ones, is just that the ones being discussed are the main players in the galactic arena. MBT's are still used, when I was talking about the EDD's fast tanks I meant more in terms of panzerkrieg tactics. However, they deal directly with the enemy instead of the Commonwealth who moves behind their lines with their lighter, faster armored units to capture their objectives over incapacitating their foes.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:08 No.7079684
    >>7079659
    Right, sounds like you put a lot of work into this.

    What are the aliens like? Looks, attitude, technology?
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)16:10 No.7079706
    >>7079684

    I redirect you to:

    >>7078061
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:13 No.7079731
    I like this. You've put a lot of good work into it, and that's cool.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:19 No.7079816
    >>7079731
    What this guy said, pretty neat.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:22 No.7079860
    So, what do you expect to do with this setting? Make a wargame out of it, or a homebrew setting for an RPG?
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:26 No.7079914
    I like this, OP.

    Someone archive this so I can read it later, after it 404's.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:30 No.7079962
    Well, i can say that i saw this thread before apathetic astronaut decides to make his idea into some huge table top game; or something like that.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)16:32 No.7080011
    >>7079860

    I plan to do whatever with it, honestly, RP's, stories, if I would do a wargame it could be about anything from mankind's civil war, the wars the current factions have had between themselves, or the First Contact War with the Jockey's. All I'm doing is making a setting and a background for it, what will be done with it after that is up to the people that want to use it.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)16:34 No.7080030
    >>7080011
    When you get done post it here so we can archive.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)16:41 No.7080110
    >>7080030

    I'm done for now, I need to finish some reports for my finals. You guys are free to discuss it though, so when the next time I propose anything for my setting you could help me fill in the holes. I'm just glad you guys like it, usually I'm not one to share my ideas.

    Anyways, signing off.
    >> Apathetic Astronaut 12/10/09(Thu)17:02 No.7080397
    >>7080110

    Its called "Misadventures in Space" as of now, for the RP's anyway.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)17:34 No.7080800
    Is anyone going to archive this thread? I think OP is long gone.
    >> Anonymous 12/10/09(Thu)17:47 No.7080960
    >>7080800

    Done.

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