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    64 KB Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:00 No.6854910  
    Hey guys.

    My group was looking for something new lately, so we decided to give Sandwich Spread Fantasy a try. I rolled Peanut Butter, and the rest of the group rounded things out with Jelly, Fluffernutter, and Mayo. Now, the Mayo guy was a real "lone wolf" type and his character simply didn't work with the group at all. Well, a month ago Mayo past its expiration date and the guy decided to roll something that would go a bit better with the pantry so he went with Nutella.

    Now here's the problem: everything my Peanut Butter character can do, his Nutella does better and it's becoming harder and harder to justify the space my character takes up in the pantry with him around.

    So what can I do? I've already leveled up to Organic Chunky Peanut Butter, and he's still completely outclassing me. Am I screwed?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:02 No.6854935
    Roll honey, kick shit!
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:02 No.6854937
    >>6854910
    Have you tried multiclassing? Taking a few levels in Jelly?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:02 No.6854941
    You work better with Jelly than he does. Use that to your advantage.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:03 No.6854949
    It sounds like the grass really is greener OP
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros II !PhseAMrpPY 11/24/09(Tue)22:03 No.6854954
    Dulce de leche.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:04 No.6854961
    Roll a Use Rope Check
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:05 No.6854981
    Are you using the Fruits and Veggies expansion? Because PB gets a major boost when using bananas.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:05 No.6854986
    Equip some celery and raisins OP. It will definitely boost your usefulness. Also play on your versatility as being savory and sweet.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:06 No.6854991
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    >>6854937

    id do this, then take this prestige class
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:06 No.6854992
    What the fuck, man? Rolling straight peanut butter? Fucking NO ONE does that. Multiclass into fluffernutter or pbj like a man.

    Actually, know what? Multiclass into jelly AND bacon. Motherfuckin' Fool's Gold, broseph. No spread is finer.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:06 No.6854998
    >>6854941
    I would, but Nutella was doing so well that Jelly started going into Raspberry Preserves. Now he goes with Nutella like rope and sex.

    >>6854937
    The GM won't let us multiclass into something that another player's already running.

    >>6854935
    Hm... Maybe I could multiclass into THAT...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:06 No.6855000
    Yeah, Nutella is OP. I'd recommend taking a level in jelly. Or chocolate (though I don't personally like the PB&C playstyle).
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:07 No.6855010
    >>6854981
    So does Nutella. Some might argue that Nutella has a bigger benefit with banana.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:07 No.6855015
    >>6854981
    Yeah, but it's super overpowered if you're using the fried buff as well, get a bit ridiculous.
    If you though nutella was whored...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:07 No.6855016
    >>6854954
    I thought I was the only one.
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros II !PhseAMrpPY 11/24/09(Tue)22:08 No.6855032
    >>6855016

    Argiefag?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:08 No.6855036
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    >>6855010
    >>Implying Nutella gets a significant boost from Banana.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:10 No.6855056
    >>6855036
    >Implying you haven't tried it
    YOU HAVE NOT LIVED, SIR.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:10 No.6855057
    >>6854986
    >>6854981
    We're not using that expansion, but I should have a talk to my GM about that. Sounds like something that could really help me out. Hopefully that'll go a bit better than trying to get him to let me take some stuff out of the Thai Food Tome, which he vetoed since he felt it was against the spirit of Sandwich Spread Fantasy...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:10 No.6855060
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    >>6855036
    >implying it doesn't
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:10 No.6855061
    lol, your dumbass dm is obviously playing in SSF 3.5. if you noobs would upgrade to SSf 4.0 you wouldnt have to worry about this unbalanced shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:12 No.6855087
    >>6855032
    1/4 Spanish.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:13 No.6855102
    >>6855061
    We're using SSF 3.5 because we like our characters having different flavors and textures. Everything just tastes like Mayo in 4.0.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:13 No.6855105
    What sort of bread are you running with? Try using potato.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:14 No.6855114
    Start taking levels in Mustard. Be THAT GUY.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:14 No.6855117
    By going chunky peanut butter you've put yourself into a different party role of providing texture. He might outclass you in flavor but he's incapable of fufilling that niche, so as long as you focus on texture during encounters you should be alright.
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros II !PhseAMrpPY 11/24/09(Tue)22:14 No.6855121
    >>6855087

    Alright, try it on everything.

    Heck, do a cake and fill it with nutella and dulce de leche.

    Also pancakes. And toast. Everything.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:15 No.6855122
    >>6855105
    what type of spread knife, also can affect your usefulness.
    what are your stats? Brand?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:15 No.6855123
    Potato bread with chocolate spread has many advantages.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:15 No.6855127
    >>6855102
    You should try SandwichCraft. The only downside is at the end of each adventure you have to start with a plain sandwich again.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:15 No.6855128
    >>6855102
    lol then your not doing it right dumbass.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:15 No.6855130
    >>6855114
    fuck, mustard and peanut butter? If you want to be even slightly effective, don't go for it.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:15 No.6855132
    I only have stats for Marmite, can someone post the Promite and Vegemite alternative creation guidelines?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:16 No.6855142
    >>6855132
    Marmite? gtfo!
    >> Researcher Sam 11/24/09(Tue)22:16 No.6855145
    >>6854954
    This. 5 levels of it will help you more than you could possible imagine.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:16 No.6855148
    Are you using the Whole Foods expansion? See if you can re-roll into Cashew Butter.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:17 No.6855154
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    REROLL AS A REAL CLASS AND KILL ALL THOSE INFERIOR SPREADS. TAKE NO PRISONERS AND METE NO MERCY.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:17 No.6855158
    >>6855117
    Yeah the only other character that really gets access to this is the Ploughman's Pickle, but it's completely aspected into savory with vinegar sweet.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:18 No.6855164
    See if you can get some toothpicks with the little flags, or plastic spearheads on one end. They can add up to 4 appearance points each!
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:18 No.6855167
    >>6855154
    Ketchup and Mustard >>>>>>> Marmite and Vegemite
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:20 No.6855180
    >>6855158
    You get a little with Relish, but you really have to multiclass for relish to be effective
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:20 No.6855182
    I played that one time at a con. Had an entire group composed of different flavors of jelly. Strawberry, raspberry, grape. One guy even got lucky and randomly rolled up blueberry. Right in front of the whole group. Double 100s! Crazy!
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros II !PhseAMrpPY 11/24/09(Tue)22:20 No.6855189
    >>6855164

    Bah, plastic swords give a combat bonus too.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:20 No.6855192
    >>6855105
    Most of our encounters tend to be with White Bread.

    >>6855122
    Viscosity 10, Creaminess 3 (took a hit when I went Chunky), Convenience 5 (took a hit when I lost my partially hydrogenated soybean oil to go Organic), Sweet 6, Savory 7. I'm running Homemade now, but I started out as Jiffy. The SM has been a bit stingy with loot, so everyone's working with butter knives.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:21 No.6855205
    PB vs. Nutella? Yes, you're fucked. Reroll Vegemite and multiclass into butter. Not only is it kickass, you'll be the only Savory character in your group. See if you can't pick up the Sourdough and Ciabatta Compendium, It'll let you rape face.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:22 No.6855213
    Play Butter
    Win At Everything
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:22 No.6855218
    >>6855189
    true, but those can be hard to find.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:24 No.6855232
    >>6855205
    Nobody ever plays Devilled Ham these days. That was the god-king of all savoury spreads back in my day.
    Wonder if it will ever get an update?
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros II !PhseAMrpPY 11/24/09(Tue)22:24 No.6855233
    >>6855218

    It depends on the setting, OP did not mention it nor if multi-stack sandwiches were allowed or not.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:24 No.6855234
    >>6855167

    Truly, your fail cannot be quantified. I sentence you to having >>6855158 scream at you until you reform.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:25 No.6855251
    >>6855233
    yeah. We can't really give good advice until we know what's allowed, and what kind of homebrews are in the game.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:26 No.6855261
    >>6855205
    I dunno. The Nutella guy thought Mayo would be good to bring some savory to the party, but it just wound up with him not being able to work with the rest of the group.
    >> Sergeant Major Alexandros II !PhseAMrpPY 11/24/09(Tue)22:28 No.6855274
    >>6855261

    That usually happens when you mix flavour types.

    >>6855251

    True, OP needs to give more details.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:30 No.6855297
    >>6855192

    Why would you go organic? Everyone knows that all the "perks" are either underpowered, mediocre or simply nonexistent.

    Now it will a lot more work to get you up to snuff.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:30 No.6855304
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    >>6855192

    Your major opponent is vanilla white and you didn't roll hagelslag? Are you a moron? Nothing matches white better than this stuff. Sure, you will be competely useless against wheat or any savory, but that's not your campaign now is it?

    Do people outside Holland just not even know about this stuff because it's in the never-selling specialty store book or something?

    Also, you never need a knife, IN FACT YOU CAN'T EVEN USE ONE. Just start with a one level dip in butter and you will never be tied to utensils again.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:32 No.6855319
    >>6855251
    It's mostly core SSF since the SM doesn't have many books. Only reason I'm going Homemade for my Organic Chunky Peanut Butter is that the SM doesn't even have the Whole Foods expansion.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:32 No.6855328
    What you want to do is take the Toasted Slices feat. It gives you a +2 bonus on texture rolls and it allows you to spread as a half action even if you are not at room temperature yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:33 No.6855337
    OP, pray to god that Nutella doesn't get his hands on the Pastries and Sugary Treats expansion. If he gets a Crepe and Brown Sugar, then the you might as well re-roll.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:34 No.6855345
    Why don't you just team up with Nutella?

    From my previous experiences, Nutella and Peanut Butter compliment each other a great deal.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:34 No.6855352
    >>6854910

    Look, go ALL the way. Get everything off your ingredient list except MAYBE salt. You have to realize that as chunky PB you are 100%, hands down the most versatile spread and your fundamentals will never be challenged. Your synergy is off the charts with everything from wacky fruits to any sweet to pickles.

    What you really should do is convince jelly to reroll as organic honey- any type, but darks are better. Nothing, nothing, nothing is going to beat out Peanut butter and honey, EVER. People will soon look at the nutella player as the greasy, cloying and overly sweet niche mess of a spread that it is.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:35 No.6855363
    >>6855337
    What sort of SM would even allow that kind of minmaxing build? That is almost as bad as the Infinite Flavor build.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:36 No.6855371
    >>6855304
    Huh. That's not in any of the books I've seen... But it does look a lot like something the Sandwich Maker's been using in his irritating-as-hell overpowered anti-party. Maybe he's been holding out on the group book-wise...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:38 No.6855399
    Don't worry OP, you've got plenty of options to spare before even considering a reroll.
    Check it:
    Multiclass into KETCHUP. I know what you're thinking, trust me on this. Once you apply the toasted template you are pretty much set til the endgame.
    Dabble into the fruits and vegetables area as others have suggested; apples, bananas, celery, lettuce...
    Hell, you can multiclass with CHEESE, that'll fucking tear him ten new assholes. Do you know what kind of destruction a proper peanut butter and cheese combo can bring? They don't put that shit on ritz crackers for nothing.
    If you really want to piss this guy off, multiclass into S'MORES. You've pretty much invalidated his usefulness as both a frontline and support class.
    Here is the real kicker, ice cream. Yes, you sacrifice the ability to use bread, but ice cream sandwiches have BEASTLY lockdown with the brain freeze ability. God help the poor motherfucker that decides to take you on after you become FRIED ICE CREAM, you've practically got defense out the ass, he's done.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:39 No.6855404
    >>6855371
    Had the SM in SSF's sister game SaladCraft do that to our group once. It took forever for us to realise he was pulling Bacon Bits on us...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:47 No.6855497
    >>6855352
    My ingredients list is already just peanuts and salt. I'd prefer to not get Jelly to reroll since he's having a good time and this is really my problem not his.

    >>6855399
    It's not really a Spread vs. Spread sort of game, and support for incorporating Ice Cream in core SSF is fairly lacking.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:51 No.6855549
    >>6855497
    I wasn't implying spread vs. spread.
    You said he's outdoing you and constantly making you look useless in comparsion, right?
    These are merely tips to help you outshine the powergaming son of a bitch.
    >> Investigator GROTSNOTTA 11/24/09(Tue)22:52 No.6855558
    I heard reports of /co/ in the teegees.

    >looks around

    Carry on, gentlemen.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:53 No.6855566
    >>6855404
    SaladCraft was so badly implemented. A couple rulebooks, a couple supplements, then nothing. No support at all after a depressingly short time. I think they just tossed it out there to see if they could catch a few cheap bucks riding SSF's popularity.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:53 No.6855571
    >>6855399

    Re:Cheese. As outlined in the Cheeses of the World expansion, cheese is one of those classic example of power creep. Avoid it like the plague! If you think the Mayo guy is bad, wait until you get some idiot Milk Questing for goats or, god forbid, Yaks.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:55 No.6855592
    If you're feeling adventurous you could roll Marmalade. I know it's fucking bizzare to be classed as sweet and yet be bitter, but against anything that opposes sugar you can out-damage that goddamn Nutella fag.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:56 No.6855615
    >>6855592
    Yeah, but you can't multiclass pb&marmalade and hope for sucess, OP'd have to reroll
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)22:58 No.6855638
    >>6855592
    There's absolutely no real roleplaying options with a Marmalade built. You want to powergame, go ahead. But where's the character? Where is the backstory? At least Nutella has some depth to it as well as being OP. Marmalde is just...bleh.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:01 No.6855670
    Hey, an SSF thread! Man, this is some crazy timing.

    I'm a new SSF DM. I just started up a campaign with some friends to test the waters a little. I tell everybody that most of the encounters are going to be croissants or baguettes, and that they might want to pick a class that can deal accordingly. One guy rolls up a Grape Preserve, his best friend whips up Wasabi (yeah, total god damn weeaboo. We tried to talk him out of it, but...no dice.), and our resident girl rolls Spam. A little weird, but she managed to take all the right feats, and she's been pretty useful throughout.

    Seems okay so far, right? Well, as it turns out, my brother decides he wants in on the most delicious fantasy game in the market. So, he spends a day browsing the SSF forums, and comes to me with this ludicrously min-maxed sheet for Roasted Garlic. Which is like, what the fuck. He's a good player, though, so I let him in. Now he's dominating everything, and all my other players are getting the table scraps at every encounter, which they're complaining about non-stop. Is there a way, outside of "bread falls, you die" to make the game interesting again? I'd like to keep with the vaguely French theme, but all ideas will be considered.

    tl;dr One guy's too strong. How can I shaft him without looking like I did it on purpose? Thanks in advance.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:04 No.6855703
    >>6855670
    That's a bit of a problem. As far as I know, croissant and baguette encounters are going to get totaled by butter or roasted garlic. It's going to be tough to shaft him without screwing over the rest of the pantry.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:07 No.6855738
    >>6855670
    Introduce a Dinner Date scenario for one of the encounters. It may seem harsh, but that's really the only major disadvantage Roasted Garlic has; he's gonna have to cut down and let a few other masking flavours take the spotlight if the party is going to succeed. It's one situation he can't just solo, because doing so will actually cost them more.
    This will only work if he's a team player; if he's a douche then the party will end up getting bogged down with Garlic Breath and probably TPKing a few rounds later.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:07 No.6855744
    >>6855670
    If you are playing with the Breakfast Spreads expansion throw some crepes at them. Spam might have a hard time, but Grape Preserve will make a killing. Garlic will definitely have a hard time. Especially if you add the Powdered Sugar bonus on the Crepes.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:08 No.6855750
    >>6855670
    Wasabi, Grape Preserves, and Spam will all do fairly well against sweeter breads, but Roasted Garlic will probably struggle a bit. Maybe you could reveal a small group of BBEGs that are some variety of sweet croissants using baguettes as mooks? Roasted Garlic still has something to do (mopping up the baguettes), but the party overall can be more useful in taking down the high-priority targets.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:09 No.6855769
    >>6855744
    Spam will do just fine with crepes. Its saltiness gets nicely offset by sweet flavors.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:09 No.6855773
    >>6855738
    Yeah, but that's a stopgap at best. In the long run, unless he keeps throwing dinner dates (hard to justify, storywise) at them, RG will continue to plow through all the encounters. Maybe you should take the player aside and tell him his spread is overpowering all the other flavours and that it's ruining the game for everyone else.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:10 No.6855776
    >>6855558
    I do believe you meant /ck/, my good man.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:11 No.6855799
    >>6855769
    >Spam
    >saltiness
    >sweet flavors

    OP, I may have a crazy idea for you...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:17 No.6855866
    >>6855799
    ... Find a ca/tg/irl with a taste for salty flavors?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:17 No.6855877
    outlast him, everyone know nutella is useless at the last 2 inches. its completely unspreadable.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:19 No.6855914
    >>6855703
    Boy, don't I know it. That's what I'm here at /traditional garnishes/ for, though.
    >>6855738
    Whoa, Dinner Date! Man, that would work perfectly! I mean, obviously I can't have Dinner Dates for every encounter, but that would work really well for, like, BBEGs.
    >>6855744
    Yeah, we have Breakfast Spreads. I'll probably have some crepes with Powdered Sugar and some without, so Roasted Garlic doesn't feel too put out.
    >>6855750
    I'll probably end up doing this; my brother's a good sport, so he should be okay with it. I'm not sure how I feel about marking specific breads for him and him alone, but I guess I have something to learn from, now.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:21 No.6855928
    >>6855866
    Other than that. Can you imagine the unbridled POWA of cross-spreading Peanut Butter and Spam? It'll be tricky, but could work.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:21 No.6855935
    >>6855799
    >>6855866
    ...Oh, you're not tallking about something from the Book of Erotic Spreads are you?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:23 No.6855952
    >>6855935
    Man, that book is so BROKEN for chocolate syrup, whipped cream, and honey, but the inclusion of spirits and liquers like rum and Kahlua for body shots was inspired.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:26 No.6855983
    >>6855928
    I'm not sure I CAN imagine that. Peanut Butter's too savory to really form a contrast with Spam, and its texture would be completely overpowering.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:26 No.6855989
    >>6855952

    Nutella would be even worse then. I fondly remember this epic encounter I had playing that supplement with Nutella...
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:29 No.6856016
    >>6855983
    But with the added heat, the viscosity would go through the roof! And it'll only take a level or two for the effect to kick in fully, so it wouldn't cause too much progression slowdown.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:30 No.6856026
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    >>6854910

    Sometimes /tg/ ... you just make my soul happy.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:35 No.6856077
    >>6854910

    I can't believe you guys are still playing this kids game.

    Barbecue is where is a game for real men.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:37 No.6856098
    please tell me this thread was archived. i don't see SSF threads too often!
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:40 No.6856130
    >>6856077

    Barbecue's a solid game, but sometimes it gets bogged down with really unnecessary rules that slow play down. Plus, they threw all their otherwise good balance out the window when they introduced the Chili supplement. I actually had to ban that book it was so overpowered.

    No, SSF is my game of choice, but I will play Barbecue when I want a more GRIMDARK game, which it excels at.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:43 No.6856158
    >>6856077
    Like I said, we were in a mood for something new. We had just finished a Chili Cookoff RPG campaign that ended in TPK when one guy used a 9million scoville "food additive", and that game came right on the heels of a Sushi and Soy Sauce game that ALSO ended in TPK when the Fugu player botched a vital roll.

    We would have played French Cuisine: the Decadence, but nobody felt like learning such a heavy ruleset.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:43 No.6856165
    >>6856130
    >>6856077
    Since you brought up Barbecue, I was wondering if you have any advice for running a Sausage build? What are some good condiments, and is it better to go with the Grilled feat or take the other branch and go Fried?
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:44 No.6856177
    >>6856165
    a sausage build is completely dependent on your seasoning loadout
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:45 No.6856185
    >>6856158
    Oh man, FC:D...
    Time for an encounter!
    >Quick everyone, roll for snobbery! Now roll for haughtiness! Roll for smell! Roll for richness! Roll for gallivanting! Roll for maquerading! Roll for hoers douvres! Roll for wine impediment to taste values!
    Alright, now for the actual food!
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:47 No.6856197
    >>6856177
    Not COMPLETELY dependent. It's a safe bet that accompanying it with bacon will be a good idea, though the season loadout will determine how much bacon and how it will be incorporated.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:47 No.6856207
    >>6856177
    I tend to stick with plain beef...I tried chicken once, but the penalties for rolling undercooked are so fucking steep. You're more likely to TPK before the salads are even ready then anything else on the BBQ - only thing worse is Shrimps, and that's only if you're playing Barbecue: The Aussie Backyard supplment from Grills & Woks #47,568.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:48 No.6856216
    >>6856165

    It depends on what kinda game you're playing. Most of the time, I've found that grilled is a better all-purpose build than fried. However, on those occasions that fried is designed for (county fairs, mostly), it kicks all sorts of ass. Seriously, run fried sausage at a county fair with the \Wurstefest supplement and you turn into a sort of meaty rapestick.
    >> Anonymous 11/24/09(Tue)23:50 No.6856231
    >>6856207
    I got issue number 1,094,889 yesterday. Fuckers have sold out, they're just trying to sell tongs and spatulas now rather then talking about the game itself. The BBQ Report was a fucking joke.
    Only good thing was the article on using lemons for encounter bonuses during the set-up phase.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:00 No.6856328
    >>6856231

    Have you seen their new tongs/spatulas? They're making 'em out of plastic now! I still have the metal set I bought back in 1985 and I haven't needed to change them once! Back then, of course, G&W knew how to make a quality product.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:01 No.6856349
    >>6854910
    This thread has completely made my day. Thank you, Elegan/tg/entlemen.

    Archive here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6854910/
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:03 No.6856371
    Hey guys, someone told me they're introducing Marshmallow Fluff as a new Stabilizer class because players were complaining that every sandwich needed Nutella otherwise the substrate got too soggy. I feel that this is a necessary upgrade because I was sick of having a fucking Nutella dual-spreading with every group I play with. But I also feel that they really should introduce a Stabilizer class to address the shortcomings of the Savory spreads. Mustard tries to fill that role but I find that in the short-run it only hampers the other spreads until it acquires the Grainy trait. I swear, if Maple Syrup didn't have such a shitty viscosity stat it would overpowered to fuck; seriously +5 to Notes AND Aroma every clarity level? Fuck.

    Seriously not trolling but I think they have to introduce shredded lettuce or alfalfa sprouts to make Savory feasible. Or at least nerf Toaster Oven so not everyone rushes for it.

    inb4 implying vegetables are spreads and won't break the game
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:09 No.6856444
    >>6856371
    I just wish Panini Press was cheap enough to get at chargen.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:10 No.6856460
    >>6856371
    Yeah, my group tried to bring over lettuce from Saladcraft but the difference in power levels made it totally useless. Sure it stabalizes and has a bit of texture, but lettuce barely contibutes any flavour at all.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:10 No.6856468
    >>6856371

    Man, that reminds me. It's really impractical, but I've wanted to run a molasses build for a really long time. It's one of those choices underpowered enough that no one uses it, but has enough quirky options that it seems that it'd be really fun to play anyway.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:11 No.6856484
    >>6856197
    Only newbs use bacon. It is a familiar flavouring to the ignorant masses and earns early popularity points. It works because the newb doesn't have a full understanding of mixology and is a shortcut (same with MSG). Use that bacon to get started but don't disregard developing your season mixes. Let me tell you man, when you get into the big leagues where the judges have insured tastebuds, if they even HEAR the word bacon mentioned around your sausage they will drop you like fifth period French.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:11 No.6856485
    >>6856460
    There's some variant lettuces in some of the harder-to-find sourcebooks from SaladCraft that can work.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:16 No.6856549
    >>6856484

    I dunno. It's really difficult, but I've seen a few guys pull off a late-game bacon/sausage multiclass. You'd have to ask someone else how it's done, though, cause I'm not super familiar with the build. I think it has something to do with the "Just Crispy Enough" feat, along with maxing out your aroma skill ranks.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:20 No.6856602
    Has anyone seen the baconaise spread that was floating around a little while ago? I'm curious to see if anyone has played it yet.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:23 No.6856631
    >>6856602
    Nothing but a gimmick, bro, totally unbalanced. If you get it into the right spread combos you can totally demolish the opposition, though.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:23 No.6856636
    Is anybody allowing their players to take a Monte Cristo build? Seems OP to me.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:23 No.6856639
    >>6856602

    Hey, I remember that. It seems really unfeasible, and I'm still not convinced. I mean, the guy clearly knew what he was talking about, and he even had the mathematical justification, but even he admitted that the build had never been tested before. Besides, my gut instinct just tells me that it would never work.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:25 No.6856660
    >>6856444
    Paini Press is nice at mid-game but the jump to Toaster Oven is massive. I don't know what kind of hand-holding the SM does for other groups but ours wouldn't let us get a hold of Paninni Press until we learned to spell it and we had a minimum of 8 in all our minor stats. Maple Syrup got screwed and held us back. There is too much emphasis on acquiring the luxury toaster items, maybe they should make the upgrades more gradual than abrupt like timer accessories, multi-racks, teflon surfaces, etc. Hell, introduce a basic Toaster or just one to rent.

    God, has anybody tried a Salamander or George Foreman yet? I don't know if worth the crit-fail Extra Crispy penalty.

    >>6856468
    Do it man. Molasses seems really impractical early but it really comes into its own when you get to the "What's that fucking flavour" stage of the game.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:26 No.6856679
    I think a Peanut Butter with a Celery Mount is still enough to beat Nutella at any level of game, even if he has the Crepe's going.

    I'd suggest moving away from traditional Peanut Butter builds, and maybe working with an Organic-Homemade style. I know Organic perks generally seem crap, but there's a huge synergy once you go into Homemade. You'll fill the niche roll so well, you can really fill the lunch and snack purposes of the group, doubling up because you're savoury. Nutella ain't got anything like that. He's extremely situational, and a high priority target. Any stoned enemies will just aim him hard first until he's all gone.

    Finally, perhaps try some of the Dutch Expansions? I heard open sandwiches are pretty Overpowered RAW.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:28 No.6856707
    >>6856679
    > I heard open sandwiches are pretty Overpowered RAW.
    I've only seen them played a couple of times and every single time, our pantry needed someone to at least multiclass in gravy for us to be even slightly effective
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:30 No.6856744
    >>6856660

    Our group tried out a George Foreman, and we were kinda disappointed. It's a decent machine, but it's just too point-heavy for what it's capable of.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:32 No.6856784
    >>6856679
    Dude, I totally tried Organic Peanut Butter with a new group. It was fine and dandy until later in the game when we discovered that the solids were separating from the liquids and I had to waste 1d4 turns mixing that shit up. I'll try to grind through to Homemade. I don't suggest trying Organic with Peanut Butter, next time I'm going to roll Jams and Jellies and shoot for Homemade. I get some good feedback from that in real life.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:34 No.6856809
    This game puts the 'fat' in 'fa/tg/uys'.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:36 No.6856825
    >>6856679

    No Peanut-Butter player worth his salt will run a celery mount build without taking the raisins accessory. It's pretty much the only way to complete the build. If you don't want to do that, though, the apple mount or the baby-carrot mount are just as good, only you don't have to spend extra points. Mounted combat rules are pretty simple and easy to understand for SSF, otherwise I wouldn't be mentioning this. Dinners & Diners could seriously learn a thing or two.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:36 No.6856834
    What my last SM used for encounter ideas:
    http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/
    Best game of SSF I've ever played
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:38 No.6856858
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    THIS THREAD
    >>116 posts and 6 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

    This is why I love you /tg/.
    Never change.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:42 No.6856906
    >>6856834

    That butterbeer build gives me a great idea for our next BBES...
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:44 No.6856929
    Just got here, I'm guessing that the fact of nutella being basically poison has already been mentioned?
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:44 No.6856938
    >>6856177
    FENNEL OR ANISE FOR THE WIN BITCHES

    toss in some basil if i feel the need to get some sweetness on in the sausage build
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:45 No.6856953
    >>6856938
    Please, a proper Chorizo build will blow that out of the water
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:46 No.6856968
    I just worked out something perfect for raping Sweetsweet McSugarfuck players - sourdough bread. There's absolutely no synergy between it and sweet spreads, which means the savouries actually get to do something.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:47 No.6856979
    >>6856938
    >>6856953
    You're both playing a fools game. An andouille build will crush the both of you.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:52 No.6857048
    >>6856979
    >>6856953
    >>6856938
    Kiełbasa called, says he has your balls.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:53 No.6857058
    >>6856938
    >>6856953
    >>6856979
    English Breakfast Sausage.
    Maxed out Fat and Flavour stats, with huge Volume to boot. And that's just on the ground floor; add onions, eggs, tomato and injected cheese accessories and you have a fucking monster of a build. Doesn't even need the bacon.
    Multi-class with baked beans and you'll rape everyone else in the Hangover scenarios.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:57 No.6857102
    >>6857058

    I'm sorry, but the king build in all Hangover scenarios is menudo. There is no substitute.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)00:58 No.6857112
    >>6857102
    Classic example of power creep in splatbooks
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:01 No.6857150
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    >>6856929

    HERETIC!!
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:01 No.6857152
    God you guys are something. If this hasn't been archived yet, someone get the hell on it.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:03 No.6857172
    >>6857152
    OP here. Yeah, someone did archive it over at suptg.
    >> A Newfag 11/25/09(Wed)01:08 No.6857227
    ...this isn't actually a real game, is it?
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:10 No.6857243
    >>6857227
    It's as real as Mornington Crescent, Science: The Hypothesis, and Polyhedron Conflict.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:10 No.6857251
    >>6857243
    don't forget Philosophy Hammer
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:14 No.6857285
    >>6857251

    Quiet, you fool, or this thread will be hijacked by fucking REEDUCKTIONIST THEENKEERS.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:14 No.6857287
    Hey everyone, I can't believe I almost missed this, but I need help. See, I started out our campaign as A1 Sauce because I knew our GM was going to incorporate some barbecue stuff, but as we're going along I find it harder and harder to beat anything that isn't steak. I dominate steak, no doubt about it, but isn't there a way I can be more useful?
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:16 No.6857301
    >>6857287
    Tough, A1 is kind of a one trick pony. My advice? Reroll
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:17 No.6857316
    >>6857287
    As always, multiclassing is your friend. The vanilla classes aren't designed to be diverse; so if everyone has taken something similar to you then somebody needs to multiclass to add a little variety and give your party a chance to tackle something that isn't, in this case, steak.
    Try mixing with dijon mustard, see how it goes. It should give you the ability to take on your more delicate flavour encounters.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:17 No.6857320
    >>6857287
    Don't be afraid to throw your character at Pork or Hamburgers. You're going to slaughter both of them. Anything else is a toss up. You're playing a very specialized sort of character. Can I recommend re-rolling BBQ sauce if you want to do more?
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:17 No.6857325
    >>6857285

    Can't be worse than all the Creation Scientist threads. I was pissed enough when we were overrun by Grey Agnosticism threads, as if anyone cares about that game since CS came out.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:19 No.6857340
    >>6857287
    A1 is a surprisingly versatile sauce, especially when you get into unconventional sandwich-filling. Onion rings, sauteed mushrooms, pork brisket... They'll all rock the A1 sauce. A1 also works on its own with some of the less absorbent breads since the bread won't get soggy .
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:21 No.6857372
    >>6857287
    Team up with a pork and beans player who took levels in hotdog, BAM. Beenie Weenies motherfucker. You might not be the strongest or the fastest, but if you can find a decent slice of toast for a mount, you are pretty much set. If you can find a barbeque sauce or molasses player, you can triple team that shit for extra fort saves.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:22 No.6857388
    >>6857372
    Yeah but that pantry is going to get owned if the SM decides to throw a Dinner Date at them, beans adds a fuckton of penalties
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:28 No.6857461
    >>6857320
    Yeah, I was thinking about barbecue sauce. It sounds like it would work well against most types of meat, though our GM doesn't just throw meat at us. We've seen potatoes in various incarnations, some rice, noodles, salad, and of course bread. All very dinner themed.

    >>6857316
    Oh, Dijon Mustard sounds great! As far as the other players, I know there's a Butter to take most of the breads, Salt and Pepper for a very diverse spread (not much of a power house though), and Thousand Island for whatever.

    What does everyone think of multi-classing to horseradish? Too much steak related?
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:31 No.6857486
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    Hey, I play a Butter character, and I can wreck any of your asses, any day of the week. I always kick ass in Popcorn encounters; just drizzle me on. Potatoes are my bitch, sweet or otherwise. Shit, any bread comes my way? With my Traditional Familiarity bonuses, I just show up, and they're done for in one turn.

    And let's not forget these ludicrous traits I can get! Clarity, Sweet And Creamy, Perfect Spread, Melty Pat, Saturate...you can't stand up to this. Just give it up.

    Pic related, it's my current build.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:33 No.6857499
    >>6857486
    Yeah but in core SSF butter is incredibly underpowered
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:33 No.6857500
    I'm fairly new to this game. Is there a certain spread I should try out first so I can ease into learning the game? Normally I would read the rule book, but I have a game coming up just a bit too soon to choose anything worthwhile without regretting it later.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:35 No.6857527
    >>6857486
    Did you go tub or stick? I myself prefer tub so I can tank multiple enemies without taking a turn for Warm Up.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:36 No.6857541
    >>6857499
    In core SSF, nothing is right. Besides, I can just shift over to yogurt or something if I have to play a core game.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:37 No.6857546
    >>6857500
    Ketchup is a good starter spread, but your advancement choices are pretty poor unless you multiclass later with mayo or ranch.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:39 No.6857564
    >>6857388
    But that is where you can all split up and pull some reFUCKINGdiculous party tricks: The beans player can become a wicked dip with the right accessories, becoming an excellent starter. The molasses/and or barbeque sauce player(s) can team up to buff a slow cooked rack of ribs. And depending on what route you want to take, you can contribute to a gravy and mash combo, OR you can super marinate any grilling steak of your choice just to narrow the playing field in your favor. Starches are pretty overrated, and you can TOTALLY whip some ass if the dinner date miniboss is a carb counter.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:41 No.6857591
    >>6854954
    cajeta ftw
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:42 No.6857602
    >>6857546
    Thanks man. I'll try and go for this. Wait, real quick. Is Ketchup a support spread? Normally I get saddled with that role, which is fine. I have a feeling the rest of my group is going to be a bunch of asshats again though.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:46 No.6857664
    >>6857602
    Depends on the equipment and abilities you use. If you want to dominate enemies, take Glass Bottle and Hlap the Bottom. If you want to play the support role, take a Squeeze Bottle, though you will have to watch out for the Crusty Nozzle debuff.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:47 No.6857683
    >>6857664
    *Slap the Bottom
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:48 No.6857689
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    SSF has major issues, once a Mustard character can go Spicy Brown it's a total game breaker.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:52 No.6857734
    >>6857664
    Adding to this: If you go the glass bottle path, INVEST IN A KNIFE. Timing is fucking vital, and your advanced viscosity will fuck you over in crucial moments when you are running low. A knife will help you get the extra hit in -that- much faster.
    >> Silchas Ruin !!YkfulRjm/Tb 11/25/09(Wed)01:54 No.6857762
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    This is your BBEG.

    It is impossible to defeat.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:54 No.6857779
    Oh gawd, archive this now!
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:55 No.6857784
    >>6857762
    I put red hot on basically everything I eat.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:56 No.6857800
    Holy shit, this is still around!

    If you're feeling into some Elder God-style thing, you could go with Chunky Hand-Ground Peanut Butter and Marmalade on Cracked Wheat with a Hand-Forged Knife.

    Do it right, roleplay a little, and you'll have your teammates shitting themselves every time you appear. You will be such an affront to the gamestyle that it loops around to make you invincible.

    Of course, I'm working off the latest article in White Roll, so don't mind me. Just making a suggestion.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:59 No.6857823
    >>6857800

    White Roll? lol, enjoy your crappy mag full of filler. Sure the ideas sound good when you read them but they are total fluff.

    I'll be over here reading Spelt. Most in depth coverage of the game you can get.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)01:59 No.6857827
    >>6857800
    This is why I hate White Roll! Overpriced drivel for power gamers. Whatever happened to starting with a low level Butter and working your way up to a powerful Pan Sauce? WHERE'S THE LOVE?
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:02 No.6857859
    >>6857689

    RP Wise, Dijon is a much sounder choice, then you can work with Baguettes and work to the BLT Prestige Class with a little different flair.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:06 No.6857919
    From all the posts here I'm suprised we haven't seen a SSF post before now. (even if half of the posts have been BBQfags)
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:12 No.6857962
    >>6857823
    ...yeah, man, I know.

    Mostly I'm just hanging on in remembrance of the good ol' days. Remember when it was about cards, and they had this article in there from some royal?

    In the beginning...
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:14 No.6857979
    Does anyone else play the Cannaboid variant for Butter? It takes a hit to the straight OP of Butter, but the ability to improve all other allies in a couple rounds.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:16 No.6858000
    >>6857979
    You have to be careful with a Cannaboid variant. You may enhance other members for a short while, but the Munchie debuff can and will destroy your party in certain situations.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:25 No.6858102
    Has anybody checked out the Hall of Decaying Condiments adventure? In the back, it's got alternate rules for playing spoiled and moldy spreads. I figured my group could take a break from nourishing diners to poison them for awhile. The Botulist and Mildewspawn prestige classes look like they'd be fun to play.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:29 No.6858136
    >>6858102
    I gave it a look, but my group never went in for the whole zombie fad.
    >> Anonymous 11/25/09(Wed)02:29 No.6858145
    >>6858102
    Yeah, it was a pretty good module, I was the SM for my group when we ran that, very fun.



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