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    62 KB Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)22:57 No.6558083  
    SO I wanna get into Exalted, what are the necessary books?
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:01 No.6558127
    The core book, maybe the Storyteller's companion for villains and such. That said, if you want to play anything other than Solars, you'll need their book as well.

    And get yourself to some classic epics.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:04 No.6558145
    Is the core book called the PLayer's Guide? getting these of /rs/ at the moment. What's the difference from solar and the rest of the exalted?
    >> Mitchell Henderson !!3DEMVmXcfez 11/03/09(Tue)23:04 No.6558155
    Oadenol's Codex, Wonders of the Lost Age, some of the Compass books that might be pertinent to the locations where you may be playing, Scroll of the Monk if you're playing a martial artist and are looking for different styles, and the Black and White Treatises if you're looking at playing a magician-type character.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:05 No.6558162

    The core book is your pic OP.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:07 No.6558185
    I NEED all of those jsut to play? I'm looking to get my feet wet not drown
    >> Mitchell Henderson !!3DEMVmXcfez 11/03/09(Tue)23:08 No.6558212


    you think i'm trolling but i'm not

    also you're going to need any Manual of Exalted Power for whatever Exalted type you may be interested in playing (Lunar, Abyssal, Sidereal, Dragon-Blooded, Infernal)
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:09 No.6558226
    Happen to know a download link that contains at least multiple books?
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:10 No.6558234
    The second-edition rulebook is all you really need, I guess.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:10 No.6558241

    The core book has all the rules you'll need to play solars and mortals.

    The Story Teller's Compainion adds quick and dirty rules for Siderials Lunars Abyssals, god-bloods, demons, fair folk and gods.

    Individual books give you detailed rules for the individual types: Manual of Exalted Power: _____ for the exalts, Graceful Wicked Masques for fair folk, Scroll of Heroes for half-god and other half breeds and Role of Glorious Divinity 1 for gods.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:11 No.6558247

    The Corebook.

    Everything else is just elaboration on things mentioned in it.

    If you don't want to play solars, you will need an additional manual of Exalted Power.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:11 No.6558258
    You just need the core book to get started, OP. Don't listen to these guys.

    /rs/ has download links to all the Manuals of Exalted Power, if you want to run something besides a Solar.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:14 No.6558303
    Lunar, Abyssal, Sidereal, Dragon-Blooded, Infernal.

    Can someone give me a short description of these? Just wanna know if I will want to Download them later or not.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:19 No.6558372
    Lunars shapeshift, Abyssals kill shit dead and then put it to work, Sidereals are dicks, Dragon-Blooded work best if you have more than one in the group and Infernals are for when you want to put the stunt system to work destroying shit instead of doing acrobatics.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:21 No.6558389
    >Sidereals are dicks,
    >Infernals are for when you want to put the stunt system to work destroying shit instead of doing acrobatics

    Can I combine these two aspects?
    >> Mitchell Henderson !!3DEMVmXcfez 11/03/09(Tue)23:22 No.6558404

    Don't play Sidereals. They're weak compared to the other Exalt types and Astrologies are too fucking complicated to deal with.

    Infernals are self-wanking fun if done right.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:24 No.6558421
    >What's the difference from solar and the rest of the exalted?

    Solars are the best Exalted, in terms of all round capabilities, and good for new players to know the ropes. They're kinda like the Space Marines of Exalted; shiny, strong, and capable of kicking lost of ass. That said, the other Exalted have their own areas of specialties; I'll list them down in terms of my favourites first:

    1: Infernals: Unabashedly moustache-twirling villains, these guys are the way to go if you want to play a badguy in the spirit of Exalted. Dangle heroes over deathtraps while monologing about your devious to marry his beautiful sister and take her inheritance FUCK YEAR! Of course, if playing a villain doesn't appeal, then guess what? You can do the same as a good guy! Just replace 'hero' with 'villain' in the previous example!

    2: Dragon-Blooded: Much weaker overall than the Celestial (Solar, Sidereal, Lunar, Abyssal and Infernal) Exalted, the Dragon-Blooded have to work together to achieve their goals, and their Charms reflect this. Makes for a nice, low-powere game of Exalted. Honestly, I'd recommend these guys for new players, since it allws you just enough to survive the dangers of Creation while reminding you that yes, Creation CAN be dangerous. Too bad everyone's too busy going 'OOH I WANNA BE A SHINY' in Exalted, but meh, it's a selling point.

    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:24 No.6558424
    > weak compared to the other Exalt types

    I'm not a min-maxer. If I like the character concept I'll run with it

    > Astrologies are too fucking complicated to deal with.

    how so? I've always been good with overly complicated systems (3.5, THAC0)
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:25 No.6558429

    3: Lunar Exalted: These guys are furries- and in Exalted, this is an asset. Ever wanted to turn into a monstrosity with ten clawed tentacles and rip the shit out of your foes? Ever wanted to look so beautiful as to make Adonis want to pattern himself on you? Choose Lunar Exalted. Their warriors have the potential to rival the best the Solar Exalted have, and their courtesans similarly rival the prettiest Golden Ladies.

    4: Sidereals: JUST AS PLANNED is the name of these guys' game, and if diplomacy doesn't work, they move on to their amazing Martial Arts. Other Martial Arts use fists, razor-claws and staves as form weapons, but with Sidereal Martial Arts, you can punch your enemies' langauges out with the concept of love, or hit their destiny and turn them into a duck. That said, you're a glass cannon, so don't expect to be directly fighting gods as often as the other Celestials.

    5: Solars: Like I said, vanilla. Good to cut your teeth on, but on the whole once you've had a bite of the rest, you'll find something to better suit your tastes.

    6: Abyssals: Avatars of long-dead gods who haunt, and are haunted by, the world (it's Exalted, bear with me). They aim to bring all of Creation into Oblivion, ending everything forever. I don't really like these guys as they've always seemed too SRS BZNS to me, but that's just one twit's opinion. If showing a world where DBZ meets The Odyssey the true meaning of 'Sit down and get to work, imagination's not gonna put food on the table!' is your thing, don't let me stop you.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:25 No.6558435
    The Sidereals charmset wasn't ported from 1e to 2e with the eye to balance that it should have had. This has been unofficially fixed with Loom 2.0. Their deficient Charms are also compensated by the fact that Sidereal Martial Arts let them punch you so hard you become a duck and only get more ridiculous from there.

    As for combining that with Infernals, you could play a Sidereal akuma, I guess, but why would you? There's no reason for a Celestial Exalt to make a pact with the Yozis for power when they would quickly become more powerful than it made them on their own, without the drawbacks.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:26 No.6558445
    >you can punch your enemies' langauges out with the concept of love, or hit their destiny and turn them into a duck

    My god I'm in love
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:27 No.6558458

    Lunars = Animal themed exalts of the moon. Their main themes are Survival, protection creation and adaptability. Castes: Full Moon (physical power), No Moon (Raw intellect), Changing Moon (pure force of personality). They live on the edge of civilization and forge new mortal societies to withstand the coming darkness.

    Siderials = Fate themed exalts of the stars/planets. Their abilities are unique, powerful, convoluted and extremely narrow. Each caste has dominion over an aspect of fate: Journeys, Battles, Endings, Serenity, and Secrets. They live in heaven and enforce the rules of the gods.

    Abyssals = "Mirrored" solar exaltations stolen and blackened by the Neverborn and enslaved to their Deathlord masters. Their main themes are death, undead, destruction and redemption.

    Infernals: Warped solar exaltations stolen by the Yozi (the lords of hell). Unlike the Abyssals who are basically just undead and destructive versions of the solars, Infernals are fundamentally altered and have powers associated with the traits of their Yozi masters. Hell is their home and they seek to turn all of creation into a hellish landscape so that their masters can escape their prison.

    Dragon-Blooded: Chosen of the elemental dragons, they are the weakest of the exalted but they can pass their powers on to their children, making them by far the most numerous. Also they have been running the world for about 1500 years now so they have all the infrastructure to support them. They are currently on the brink of civil war because their empress is missing. Their castes follow the 5 elements: Earth, Fire, Air, Water and Wood.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:29 No.6558477
    Sidereals are never going to gain Labyrinth circle necromancy, or Solar circle sorcery, on their own, dude. So that's one reason.

    Also, One Hand Fury is pretty tempting, and accepting Malfeas as your lord and personal saviour is pretty fucking sweet when you're going from a frail little siddy to becoming a hulking JUGGERNAUT BITCH with solar sorcery & malfean charms.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:29 No.6558480
    furries is something of a misnomer for Lunars, they do have a totemic theme but they're really closer to shoggoths than anything. This is exemplified in Lunars that "go bad" and become chimera.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:30 No.6558487
    OH YES, as an Infernal. It's just that as an Infernal, you won't be able to manipulate Destiny as directly as the Sids (and they're pretty damned direct when it comes to manipulating Destiny), so you'll have to get down and dirty doing as many of these as possible:

    1) Wrecking the peace between people and peoples with well-chosen words and societal paranoia
    2) Starting cults to the dark beings who empowered you- or yourself, 'cos one of the themes of Infernals is eventually turning to those Dark Beings and saying 'Thanks for the powers, suckers!'
    3) Inventing doomsday devices, because nothing says 'FUCK YOU' like a death ray. You can even program it to tattoo in the words 'FUCK YOU' in everything it kills.
    4) Killing anything that says 'YES, FUCK US PLEASE!'
    5) Alternatively, you can just drive all your foes insane.

    Astrology requires some work between the ST and you, as you'll literally be shaping the destiny of people and communities.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:31 No.6558506
    On top of all this, the manual for creating Alchemicals should be coming out this month unless it's been pushed back again, and I for one welcome our new magical robot overlords.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:32 No.6558509
    Now do Alchemicals!

    And god, I wish there was a better option for Sorcerers barring the Solar Exalted. At least you can learn Sidereal Martial Arts as a Solar.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:32 No.6558519
    Lunars can also make their alternate form some kind of bizarre daemon prince type thing, like a giant of stone with a glowing green third eye, or a mass of tentacles. Besides those 3 castes, there's also casteless lunars, who have whatever anima power is appropriate for the phase of the moon, and can gain chimera powers, giving them them stuff like a non-charm based perfect defense, the ability to consume people and make clones of them later (useful if you need to pose as a group of people instead of just one for instance), and of course, teh ability to return from death if so much as a single drop of blood remains.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:33 No.6558531

    Oh and just to qualify that statement about numbers.

    There were 300 solars. Half of these exaltations have been tainted... 100 abyssals , 50 infernals and 150 soalrs now exist.

    There are 300 lunars

    There are 100 Siderials

    There are roughly 20,000 dragon-blooded currently. At their height they numbered in the millions.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:34 No.6558540
    Check out the errata for Sids:

    And as for Akumazation- remember, the Sids get a lot of power, fluffwise, being able to shape entire nations with a little bureaucratic push. Who's to say they won't end up craving more...?
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:35 No.6558556
    Or be an infernal sidereal, and have an awesome manse in Heaven and snort celestial cocaine all day, having the best features of both splats while working behind the scenes to fuck over the gods themselves.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:36 No.6558570

    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:38 No.6558603
    Desus-fuking-Lilith, how could I forget about the Alchemicals? I too, will fall down and worship at the feet of our Communist Cyborg leaders. That said, until I see their Manual, I can't say anything specific.

    THAT said, at higher power levels Alchemicals turn into living cities. That's right, Optimus Prime only managed a goddamn truck- you're gonna show him what Stalingrad can do, and maybe call in your buddies Petrograd and Moscow.

    (Maybe if you manage this, then Paris will give you her number. Squee!)
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:38 No.6558611
    I'm sorry, I wont' try to one up Green Sun Princes anymore. basically though:

    Green Sun Prince = Mix of two Yozi's powers (say, combining the ultimate power of the radioactive demon city of Malfeas with the peerless speed of the silent Joker+Nurgle wind of Adorjan)
    Akuma = Mix of one Yozi's powers and one Exalt type's powers
    >> Robert Davenport !90UeR4VaZA 11/03/09(Tue)23:39 No.6558628
    Alchemicals - Chosen of Autocthon, they are mortal souls implanted in exalted machine-bodies. They get larger as their essence grows, eventually becoming the core of a new city.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:42 No.6558656
    I wouldn't get too excited about Alchemicals until we see what 2E Alchemicals were capable of, since ANY kind of Exalt can pack cyber-limbs, powersuits or mechas, and essence cannons.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:43 No.6558670
    Pity that Alchemicals can't really be played at higher levels of essence.

    Someone do Dragon Kings! And Ghosts! And Thaumaturges! And Heroic Mortals!
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:44 No.6558680
    Not to the levels of the Alchemical.

    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:44 No.6558686
    Hey, you wanna be an akuma sid, be my guest. I just like mixing and matching Yozi powers Mind-Hand Manipulation with Green Sun Nimbus Flare, anyone (basically killing people with short-ranged RADIATION MIND RAYS)? Honestly, I think the power levels balance up just nicely.

    Then again, that gets thrown out the window when an Infernal reaches his highest potential...
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:46 No.6558708
    The writers have stated that they've included the option to stay small at high essence levels, for those players who don't like the idea of becoming a city. Mind you, I'm not sure what sort of weirdo wouldn't like the idea, but there it is.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:47 No.6558744

    Ghosts: It sounds cool, but you're the bitch of even an enlightened mortal necromancer, and as if being incredibly weak wasn't bad enough, Dragon Kings and Exalts can turn into ghosts that are way more powerful than you. Deathlords can even eat you without a roll.

    Dragon Kings: Dinosaur people who can turn into vampires, necromancer ghoasts, cyborgs, or ghouls. And do a bunch of elemental stuff noone cares about. Fairly weak.

    Heroic Mortals: Don't even bother, though I guess you can learn basic necromancy and push around ghosts, basic sorcery and push around first circle demons.

    Thaumaturge: The good news: You can summon up to a second circle demon. The bad news: You can't control them. just play something worthwhile.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:49 No.6558759
    You need Exalted: The Rulebook, The Book of Exalted Deeds, Mr. Deeds (VHS or DVD), Ascension, Shadowrun: Street Magic, and a box of cheerios.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:50 No.6558776

    It would be nice if they included and option to do both at once. You'd have your small human sized body and you can plug yourself in to the city and wear it like a warstrider.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:50 No.6558778
    Where? I couldn't see ANYTHING like that except for the Moonsilver caste, and even they get big.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:52 No.6558796
    Someone do peasants! Realm peasants! Lookshy peasants! Ten THousand Rivers Peasants!

    Someone do Gods!
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:52 No.6558799
    So if I wanted to be a Green Sun Prince without having to go renegade or having to do it with a male yozi or demon, what're my options? does anyone know the genders of the female yozis' fetich souls?
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:53 No.6558816
    I'll try.

    See, you don't have to play the Exalted. You can also choose to play the Dragon-Kings, Mayaincatec dinosaur-men who were among the first races in Creation. Really big on the Unconquered Sun, chief god of the Solars. Not as powerful as most Exalted (though a definite match for younger Dragon-Bloods), these guys choose from 'paths' instead of Charm Trees. These Paths expand a DK's understanding of the world, but can also transform them into unworldy beings. One Path, for example, turns you into mini-SHODAN (or ED-209, depending on your interpretation).

    Ghosts are a special case. See, Creation's dead normally reincarnate, but for some reason, ghosts are too tied to the living world by things called Fetters, and as such refuse to reincarnate. Normally, ghosts are doomed to repeat their lives with minor changes (seeing as they became ghosts on account of refusing to leave said lives behind), but heroic ghosts can forge their own destinies, as opposed to being forged into soulsteel (metal made of still-conscious souls).

    Thaumaturges and Heroic Mortals are almost always one and the same. See, mortals in Exalted have the wrong end of the shit stick. They can never achieve the heights of power the Exalted can reach,- hell, TRYING to learn Exalted Charms can cause mortals to explode. That said, they can manage some pretty handy stuff on their own. Thaumaturges can learn very, very basic magic requiring long rituals, while Heroic Mortals are mortals who, though not Exalted, still try to seize their destiny in their hands. Some of them, powered by this destiny, can even have the potential to outdo the Exalted in the short term.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:54 No.6558833

    Actually I don't think the binding portion of Demon Of the First Circle works for mortal sorcerers. I seem to remember reading somewhere that mortals aren't included in the "List of things the demons must bend over and get fucked by" that was established when they were first imprisoned.

    In fact demons get rather pissy at the presumption of puny mortal sorcerers ordering them around. You'd have better luck with coaxing them out with Thaumaturgy and striking some kind of bargin.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:54 No.6558845
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    Or you can be a lunar. Moonsilver shifts with you, so if you put on moonsilver battle armor, you're going to seem to be some kind of mechanized futuristic semi-nanotech war machine. Lunars can become as hueg as they wish.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:55 No.6558856
    What are mountainfolk?
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:55 No.6558860
    Sorry, the very process of becoming an Infernal means you have to bonk demons. That said, the Dragon's fetich might be female, and Ligier's so damned FABULOUS you won't care.

    And after that, if you want to go renegade, nothing's stopping you.

    Who knows? Maybe there's a Municipal Charm that lets you make a mini-you.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:57 No.6558876
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    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/03/09(Tue)23:58 No.6558893
    Mountain Folk are Exalted dwarves. there are three kinds:

    1) Workers (Dwarves from Snow White)
    2) Warriors (Legions of Nil Bastionhalls)
    3) Artisans (WTF are these Elves doing... booobies.)

    There are also Enlightened Warriors and Workers (Artisans are all Enlightened), who are as above their common kin as the Dragon-Bloods are above mortals. That said, they're still not much of a match for Exalted.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:59 No.6558903
    >Ligier's so damned FABULOUS you won't care.
    Let's be honest, everyone's...uh...demonphile? for Ligier.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:59 No.6558908
    Sure, but there's a...

    >When that period is over, the Exalt’s body is shared around among the other Third Circle souls of his master, followed by the jouten of the architect of the Reclamation who designed his Urge (if that Yozi is different from who claims the Exalt’s caste).

    ...well shit, Green Sun Princes literally get fucked by about 15 or so people of both sexes in one day.
    >> Anonymous 11/03/09(Tue)23:59 No.6558912

    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:00 No.6558925

    I am, I know that.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:01 No.6558944
    Well, shit. That kinda sucks.

    Oh well, just hope you get boned by the cool demons.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:03 No.6558964
    Yes, and I would sign up for this drunken demon orgy where, and on what page of the rulebook?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:04 No.6558975
    Don't worry, you get to do it with ALL the third circle demons of your master. Just hope that they are not proud native american demons who believe in using every orifice.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:05 No.6558996
    p30 Infernals

    oh and I forgot to mention,

    "Any humanity to which the Exalt might have been clinging is more than likely stripped away during this time."
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:05 No.6559000
    If creation is a machine, gods are the engineers (mortals are probably the gears). The guys in the control room making everything work. When someone chops down a tree, the least god of the axe tells the least god of the tree that it should fall down now, and usually, it does.

    Terestrial gods represent physical objects. The god of a heard of cows, living in the east, reports up to the god of eastern cows, who then reports up to the god of all cows.

    Celestial gods represent concepts. The god of all cows reports up to the god of cattle farming who reports up to the god of farming who probably works in the bureau of humanity, which governs everything associated with civilization.

    Gods are supposed to work behind the sceens. Their powers are limited by their domain, but can be very powerful with regards to that particular domain.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:07 No.6559014
    Enjoy your swimmer's ear
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:10 No.6559051
    Aw jeez, I thought it was just that Green Sun Princes had to deal with getting done by two guys at once or so, not by 8 or so in one session.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:10 No.6559052
    >Let's be honest, everyone's...uh...demonphile? for the Ebon Dragon


    Wimp. They're fucking Third Circle Demons (dohohoho), you'll enjoy it even if you're into plushies.

    That said, I assume they can change form- otherwise, trying to bone Munaxes (a bottomless canyon) might prove an Epic Motivation itself.

    >Enjoy your swimmer's ear

    I know I did!
    >> No Man 11/04/09(Wed)00:12 No.6559064

    Step 1. Be a hero
    Step 2. Be thrust into a situation where you become either legend or dead, or give up and walk away.
    Step 3. Wuss out, you pussy.
    Step 4. Be told 'it's alright, nobody expected you to do the right thing instead of the smart thing' by a demon.
    Step 5. Sign up.
    Step 6. Gain an anti-conscience
    Step 7. After being divested of all the good possible, get passed around like a two-bit whore by things from beyond time and space.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:13 No.6559079
    >Ebon Dragon

    Ed is just...creepy.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:13 No.6559083
    >They're fucking Third Circle Demons (dohohoho), you'll enjoy it even if you're into plushies.

    Well, if their unanimous intent is for you to enjoy it, you probably will... I don't imagine pleasant group sex is going to strip anyone's humanity away.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:15 No.6559101
    You haven't read much hentai manga have you?
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:15 No.6559110
    Stiiiiiiill not seeing the downside here.

    Or more tragically, be aweseome, but not quite as awesome as the Dragon-Blood above you who took all the credit for 25% of the (hardest, to be fair) work.

    For more lulz, have said Mr. More Awesome be completely unaware that he stole your thunder, and is genuinely a good guy who was trying to do the right thing.
    >> No Man 11/04/09(Wed)00:16 No.6559116

    Now that other people have talked about it, I finally understand what the ebon dragon hopes to do by marrying SE.

    I couldn't believe I didn't think about the 'swearing on their names' thing.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:17 No.6559135
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:19 No.6559150
    For some*, that's part of the attraction.


    Sure, Dynasty Charms and such count for something, but I prefer the view that there's some genuine emotion here- the two most scheming beings in Creation finding a soul(s)mate in each other.

    Lillun wasn't a sacrifice, she just got to meet her new Dad early. ISN'T THAT SWEET?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:20 No.6559180
    To be fair, GSPs are much less evil in general than what you'd expect from failed heroes who have been gang raped by 14+ non-moe eldritch horrors one after the other after being possessed by a demon. Their urges tend to be very well defined, down to earth stuff that had something to do with their former lives, and its almost never durrhurr in and of itself.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:20 No.6559188
    The Fair Folk are creatures who existed before anything else did. They are (in their natural state) formless masses of essence. Creation was crystallized out of the formless essence of the Wyld into something stable so that the Primorials could have a fortress against the infinite forces of the fair folk. They are still kinda sore about that, they don't really appreciate the existence things that don't bend to their every whim.

    However when creation was made there was created a "buffer" zone where the chaotic energy of the Wyld and the stability of creation overlap. This is where the Rakasha live, fair folk who have taken on temporary identities and forms so that they may interact with creation with it destroying them.

    The Rakasha exist as creatures of dream, fable and legend. A rakasha's identity is an elaborate lie built up around the role they wish to play in creation's "story"... no more real then a character in a book but given substance by the energy of the wyld.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:24 No.6559224
    I dunno about you, but after bonking Ligier, the Dragon, Erembour and the rest, I'd be feeling pretty cool with the world meself.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:24 No.6559233

    One popular theory is that if the Ebon Dragon marries, his name will change and therefore the oaths he swore that keep him caged will no longer apply.

    Personally I think that's pretty stupid. If it were that easy they would have escaped long ago.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:26 No.6559262
    Yeah, just like solar heroism is without moral context, so is infernal villainy without moral context...

    which I think is very creative when you think about it, since I don't think its been ever done (except unintentionally or satirically)
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:27 No.6559273
    Fair Folk are pretty cool. They're as godlike as Tolkien elves.

    Being godlike is underpowered in Exalted though.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:28 No.6559283
    That's why I support the 'True Love' theory. It basically goes that if the Dragon finds someone who even he won't betray, and that undoubtedly evil person finds the Dragon eminently trustworthy- the Dragon won't quite be the Dragon anymore, and thus free to escape while thumbing his nose at the other Primords.

    That said, of course, I don't know if 10,000 DBs would be enough to retake Heaven...
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:30 No.6559305
    I don't think its true love. Not with all the mind-control hax on that wedding ring of his.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:31 No.6559322
    True, true. Maybe there's a loophole nobody else knows about? Or maybe the Empress already has such Intimacies?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:33 No.6559344
    10,000 infernal DBs urged to obey the 10 or so GSPs loyal to the ED will probably be more than enough to take Heaven.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:33 No.6559348
    Probably not.

    Chances are he's using her to get to the Sword of Creation, which the Empress would presumably remain attuned to.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:35 No.6559368
    And this is another thing, OP, if you're still here: as you can see, you'll be expected to read the fluff, as on the whole, a great deal of your game will be playing off it. You don't have to know who Lyta and Peleps Deled are, or why it'll be hilarious to make them tsundere for one another, for example- but you should know who the Unconquered Sun is at least.

    Of course, if you're playing a Dynastic Dragon-Blooded game, good luck on you reading up on 11 families*!

    *To be fair, most of the writeups are short. Stil...
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:37 No.6559399
    Last session, to keep our identities secret after half the crew skirted the lines of the improbable, I made the merchants party so hard that everyone forgot the last 24 hours in a haze of booze and women, lesbian relationships happened, and my character was hit on by fine young women and disturbingly large men.

    Instant party: Just add Zenith.
    I can turn wine into FUNK.
    >> No Man 11/04/09(Wed)00:38 No.6559418

    Or he gains control of someone who can be said to 'own' creation, who frees him from his oaths or something.

    Also, the Ebon Dragon is incapable of performing an act that benefits anyone as much as or more than himself. He is literally selfishness incarnate.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:38 No.6559419
    I didn't read half the fluff, and my character doesn't even know the half of it I do know.

    Yeah for the Scavenger Lands and dumb hick Solars.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:39 No.6559424
    A good idea would be to read some fanfiction, read Keychain of Creation, and watch Avatar the Last Airbender.

    The first will give you ideas for characters and cool shit, the second is great for practical demonstrations of Creation in action, and the third is basically Immaculate Martial Arts 101 (Complete with a demonstration of what happens when a Dragonblood goes up against a Celestial at the very end)
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:41 No.6559451
    >Also, the Ebon Dragon is incapable of performing an act that benefits anyone as much as or more than himself. He is literally selfishness incarnate.

    Good point. I concede the field, good sir.

    >I can turn wine into FUNK.

    You can play your theme song on demand, godsdammit. I have to turn on MHM to do that.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:47 No.6559506
    >Or he gains control of someone who can be said to 'own' creation, who frees him from his oaths or something.
    I'd say that by fucking around with the Empress' Intimacies, he wouldn't have to lift a finger after setting it in motion. The Empress is famous for her strong will, after all.

    I see it as thus: Ed sets Miss Scarlet upon the world. She doesn't listen to him, and is probably quite dismissive of his opinions ("Yes, dear. Of course, dear. Whatever you say, dear.") but still loves him with all her heart and works towards his goals (Or something. You know what I mean, right?)

    Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it all backfires on Ed and after the dust settles he ends up as the Empress' pet. Empress says JUST AS PLANNED
    >> No Man 11/04/09(Wed)00:47 No.6559508

    What, the whatsitcalled that let you create illusions on demand? That's only usable when you use an excellency to improve the roll.

    Admittedly, that's one mote, but still.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:49 No.6559528
    The Ebon Dragon loves the concept of marriage so much that he'd forgive a GSP that was his mortal enemy just because he makes elaborate marriage plans. I don't think its IMPOSSIBLE that he loevs the Scarlet Empress, at the very least he wants to be loved by her.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)00:50 No.6559538
    If you're not stunting when you're using Excellencies, you're doing it wrong 75% of the time. I used mine to create a rock band in the middle of the ocean. What did YOU use it for?
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:52 No.6559552
    >I used mine to create a rock band in the middle of the ocean.
    You win the prize, good sir.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:52 No.6559559

    Possible he loves her? Yes.

    Possible he loves her so much that he can overcome his very nature as selfishness incarnate and redefine his existence? Maybe not. That would be some Evangelion level love hax right there.
    >> No Man 11/04/09(Wed)00:56 No.6559612
    Also, what's the Sword of Creation? The Realm Defense Grid?


    Well, let it be known that she had the mixed interference and assistance of the Sidereal exalted.


    Um. My group hasn't exalted yet.

    On the other hand, we traveled through Hungry Ghost-infested territory at night and kept our horses (and horsemen) from panicking.

    Admittedly, we were inside a line of salt, but still.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)00:59 No.6559643

    Sword of Creation = First age name for the Realm Defense Grid. It lets the Empress control all forms of natural disasters and elemental busts of energy that can be deployed anywhere in creation.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)01:00 No.6559655
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    Love has a chance to do it, not because love is POWERFUL FORCE OF GOODNESS but because love is such a bizarre and tangled weave of selfishness and selflessness that you lose the ability to figure out which is which.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)01:00 No.6559658
    >Well, let it be known that she had the mixed interference and assistance of the Sidereal exalted.
    And she's gotten one over Chejob himself several times. She's very, very good at what she does.

    And yeah, SoC=RDG. It was called the Sword when it was made.
    >> MechaMilk !T.We2gZSuI 11/04/09(Wed)01:01 No.6559666
    Honestly, its very tame, compared to making guitar sword-sufboards out of lightning, riding a summoned wolf under a veil of lightning through a raging blizzard, rocking hard enough to split a colossus with lightning.

    Yeah, I have a thing for lightning bolts and yelling "WOTAAAAN!" while throwing up the horns. What about it?

    >That would be some Evangelion level love hax right there.

    If we take DotFA's DB charms as canon (Solar Charms should be used as TP), then the Empress might have breached the limits of her heritage. She might be able to achive said levels of hax.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)01:18 No.6559874
    Those of you who've given a brief primer on the different Exalt types, I've saved your words in order to share them with my group if I ever get around to actually introducing an Exalted game.
    >> Anonymous 11/04/09(Wed)01:38 No.6560144
    Someone should archive this since it's pretty much a bit of a crash course for EXALTED.

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