The city can be divided into several distinct regions. The Outer Walls: Usually heavily populated during times of war, but right now are mostly abandoned squalor outside the outer gates. Lower Arwenken: Inside the outer stone walls is the city proper, it has suffered damage in war and has been rebuilt many times and so is a mixture of old and new buildings. Most the city’s inhabitants live here. The Citadel: The mighty stone fortress on top of the hill and where the Naheland nobility and military headquarters is located.

What evil can be done here? The plans you hatch are limited only to your cunning in guile and investigation and your imagination.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Oh how I've missed you, evil quest.

YEA

Bill Murray reporting for duty.

Guy from last time here.
From what we've seen so far, what are the locals up too?

>>6318428
The locals of the city are busy eating as though they had been starved for months and getting merry on copious amounts of alchohal. With wide gleeful grins so too the merchants are enjoying the highest profits they will see the entire year. That is unless another incursion from the east happens late summer through fall when the riders from the east commonly approach.

>>6318466
Locals are partying
Large amounts of goods are being brought in by traders and merchants
This town is ours for the taking.

This fortress city reminds me of those cities from the lord of the rings movies.

We should try to infuse ourselves into it.

If the locals are boozing, we should be able to sneak around at our leisure, but we should still try not to attract attention. Any party like this would have town guard around to keep people from getting to rowdy, best be cautious.

>>6318539
Kelgris is looming over you as usual completely hidden under robes as if a wandering pilgrim (of death) pushing people who refuse to move out of your way as you walk the streets. He seems none to subtle but very effective. You order him to not draw so much attention though, and tell him to save it for the stumbling drunks in your way. Catharine is clutching to the back your robes so she doesn’t get pulled away by the crowds.

>>6318584
While milling about with the locals and visitors from around the entire country the sound of numberless horses hooves on cobblestone echoes from the distance and horns resound on the winds. Parting as if honed by drills the people on the streets shuffle to either side and inhabitants rush to their windows to view the oncoming spectacle. You too are pushed out of the way along with your minions as the parade marches by. Adorned with feathered plume from their backs spreading like birds of prey and armored with sturdy leather and chain holding ribboned lances high in the sky a military parade marches by. At its head a man on a monstrous sized horse dwarfing the others behind him glares with focused eyes from behind his helm and large beard. The people upon seeing him cry out in celebration, “Lord Freyr! Lord Freyr! Bane of the Eastern Riders!”

The people holler and hoot as the parade marches by along the main street of the capital heading directly towards the upper citadel.

What you originally thought to be a paradise for the merchants your intuition senses a dark foreboding fear in their hearts, but none of them speak a word of it and continue to wear fake smiles. No one wants to buy goods from a depressing person at a party after all.

There also seems to be something present in the air. It feels very much like the winds that elf you crushed days ago. It seems to also be coming from somewhere near the citadel walls. You can almost see it on the winds that arc over the city in all directions. It is faint compared to what was used to try and kill you though.

>>6318594
We need to soul oblit Freyr.

>>6318594
We have good guy radar? That's hot.

>>6318640
Isnt that really draining though? We should do some evil, then oblit.

>>6318670
Well obviously, yeah. Not right now.

AND FOR THAT MATTER, we need to try and Soul Oblit that horse of his. If it's as big and monstrous looking as that, I figure it could transform into a hellish, undead steed for us.

We can promise Freyr a great deal of power... with all honesty.

<Awaiting input and general consensus for Evil activities>

Persuade drunken townfolk into acts of debauchery

>>6318782
Find a card game.

>imply that one of them is cheating

gain evil points from fist fights, paranoia, and broken friendships.

>>6318802
This for now. Small subtle things.

>>6318782
We need to start talking to the merchants, find out just what it is that they fear from Freyr. Also, we need to hunt down that presence coming from the citadel. Perhaps we can Soul Oblit Freyr and his horse while making it look... err.. heroic??? It seems to me that the people don't really like him, and slaying him in the name of "justice" just might get us some new followers.

>>6318816
I like this. And if I remember right, our original plan to get in with the nobles and higher ups of the captital was to get our girl lookin rich and special.

We could use some sexy garbs as well.

First things first, we can't do everything by ourselves. Plans for the future need to be laid now. Find a blacksmith and reforge the holy symbol we stole from the paladin while pumping as much evil power as we can into it. Melt down our dagger and combine it because the dagger seems very evil and linked to us now. It will allow us to empower the priest who has the holy symbol and hopefully some telepathic communication like with Kelgris. A black star on the gold backing of the former holy symbol. Let me whip something up in paint....

Okay, now give it to Catherine. We need to reinforce her loyalty to completely unshakable levels and make her a bit more useful, so allowing her to draw on our power for Miracles (as well as now having our voice in her head) will accomplish that. Plus having one of the nobility as our High Priestess will tend to open doors that were previously closed.

When we give it to her make sure to give a whole spiel about how she can turn back if she wants, it's her choice, she's free now blah blah blah, however we would be honored if she would be our High Priestess for the new religion we are founding to liberate the entire world from the shackles of the corrupt priesthood of Valtir. You know, talk it up good and maybe use our eyes to seem more magnificent. She'll accept, and we'll have our first true high-level minion. Kelgris is awesome, but he's not much more than an automaton. Our new Catharine the Black will be our first steppingstone to world domination.

>>6318816
I say we buy weapons, start a huge fight, then sell all the weapons.

>>6318860
I second this plan, be sure to sell high too. People will buy at near unreasonable prices if they're pissed off and looking to use those weapons.

I vote we start a class war.

>>6318823
>>6318816
>>6318802
From what you know of life and battle both are so similar. From each you suffer wounds some superficial and heal while others cut deep. But while wounds heal and scars heal words leave grudges that are never quite forgiven. From this philosophical pondering swells from your need and spilling from the shattered memories given to you there are ways to influence those of weak will and mind.

New Dark Art: *Insert Name* (Cost Low): With carefully crafted words, captivate the hearts and minds of the weak and embrace or enrage them.

Tell a random merchant that you saw someone nearby steal from him. Watch as a fight breaks out.

>>6318894
....I think he actually gave us
>implying
powers.

AWESOME.

>>6318894
Let's use this to get some contacts.We need information on this place to find out a way to exploit the circumstances.

>>6318854
Finding a blacksmith working in a time of holiday and celebration is laborious but there are still those so down on their luck they have no choice but to work. You tell him what you wish to do with the symbol of Valtir you provide him, but with your presence and the help of a few silver coins how can he refuse? With fire and brimstone and the power of the working man's hammer the iron amulet is bent and reformed into something more sinister. He cannot contemplate why you would want to deface the symbol rather then start another one from scratch, but the working peasants are so short sighted. Adding in "Hallow Star" the blacksmith yelps in surprise as the flames from his furnace glow an eerie light. But with Kelgris beside you your glare through your robed cowl forces him back to pound on the glowing metal. Resonating with magical color the amulet glows with the colors you desire rather then the actual iron gold, black and yellow. Surely you will have to wait and see what it turns into. In the meantime you entrust it to Catharine's care, who does so without question. She decided to follow you, you promised her liberation from her fate, which you did, and she is forever grateful and wishes to return to you something of equal value.

>>6319019
Now we have our own "Holy" symbol, good stuff, gives us some legitimacy. Now lets give that new power a whirl. If its cost really is low, we might actually make it back with the action from using it.

Let's use our new power, yeah. Make some nice suggestions to the townfolk.

>imply

is a good name for it.

>>6318956
>>6318860
>>6318889
Leaving the soul shocked blacksmith behind to his family desperately trying to shake him to sense you march through the bazaars and gauge the prices. Grain has been climbing only to drop suddenly. This process has happened throughout the day and many merchants cannot understand why. Those older and more experienced seem to suspect something through their stoic silence though. All the other prices have remained constant though. You decide to drop a good portion on weapons as was planned also getting cart so that your horses can take it where you wish.

Find out what the merchants are worried about and a place where large numbers of them gather after the market closes. If it's a tavern (likely) go there and buy drinks enough so that everyone is just a bit tipsy and prone to acting hastily. We'll use our voice to stir the discontent in their hearts and start a class war. Unsure if we should become the leader though, because martial law will likely slap them all down and we don't want to be seen as having failed at this point, our grasp is still too tenuous.

Also make inquiries about elves, prophecy, things like that. Make sure we make these inquiries very quietly and to people like historians and librarians. This will be easier because anyone who is still pouring over books during a festival won't be likely to be gabbing about some dark stranger asking about things everyone is supposed to know already.

>>6319126
On second thought, we should probably take up the mantle of leadership. Even if we fail it will allow us to be seen as a freedom fighter or hero. How much do we know about military strategy and urban warfare?

We need to get a bigger crew first. Let's find some broke chumps and use our special ability and appeal to their greed to get them to join us. We need more people to operate the ship and we need more minions around us in general.

Let's use our >imply power to start aggravating people. Slowly at first.

Then once a mob has started to form, they happen to stumble upon a few carts full of weapons.

>>6319069
>>6319097
Prepare me a good sermon of evil and see if it burrows into the hearts of men.

Meanwhile...

>>6319126
At one of the many taverns you wait for the end of the first day of celebrations to come to and end. The people seem jolly and in good spirits. It would be difficult to persuade them otherwise at the moment.

As for elves and prophesies of doom and gloom, there is nothing to be heard. You have not set your eyes on another elf the entire day you spent in the city hosting tens of thousands of people.

>>6319236
I REALLY like this plan.

No profit, true, but theres a shitload of evil points there.

Since Lord Freyr is clearly a big player around here, we should talks hit about him specifically, but rather the nobles.
Did THEIR houses get burnt down? No.

Did THEY have to starve themselves all winter? No.

Who gets rich off all the taxes? THEM.

>>6319246
Hmm... I'm thinking race war with the elves... Hehehehe...

What interesting rumor that are overheard that night before the populace prepares to sober up through sleep is that there has been an ever increasing amount of soldiers pouring into the capital. It seems only the truly connected in town sensed it. Why would the Naheland military mobilize in the spring?

The next day is upon you.

>>6319276
I meant to say SHOULDNT talk shit about him, the people respect him, surely. But a generally faceless "Them" that the nobles provide? NOT SO MUCH.

"They grow fat off the land that you toil upon!"

I am rather intrested in these "eastern riders", they seem to be enemies of Freyr. Perhaps we could talk to Freyr personally and promise to take care of the riders for him, and at the same time turn the townsfolk against Freyr.

>>6319331
If the eastern riders are elves, it's time to start a war.

"How long have you worked, with no way to better your lot in life? Your mothers and father before, trapped in their place, JUST AS YOU ARE. Will you stand idly by while the food you grow, the things you build, are taken away for next to nothing? Will your children be trapped in this cycle of stagnation as well? WILL YOU STAND UP?"

>>6319362
"WILL YOU STAND FOR WHAT'S RIGHT? TAKE WHAT IS YOURS?"

>>6319331
Learning about the Eastern Riders is not so hard. While bringing up their name in conversation is frowned upon they are quick to proclaim their utter hatred. They speak as if they each have a prepared speech. For countless generations nomadic tribes of horsemen have been shepherding their herds over the endless steppes. Each man beyond the mountains to the east separating them is a skilled warrior, and they continuously raid villages on the edge of their country. Every few decades war bands ranging from hundreds to tens of thousands ride into Naheland to plunder it for wealth they are too primitive to make for their own.

>>6319413
Eastern Riders? More like exploitable barbarians.

>>6319400
I'm thinking a combination of the street preachers from Assassins creed, and the general Anyrandy bits from Bioshock could work. This is good.

>>6319413
>>6319331
Even better plan: Convince Freyr we'll get rid of the eastern riders, convince Eastern Riders we'll get rid of the guard and leave the city for their taking, convice townspeople to start rioting. Round up all survivors, soul oblit the more promising and recruit the rest into our army.

>>6319362
>>6319400
Rebelling against the nobles? The thought to these people sounds like suicide. They are farmers not warriors. Yet your words promise a better life, and appeal to them none the less. However, from those identified to live in the shadow of the eastern mountains you are met with much resistance and if your presence along with Kelgris wasn't enough with a simple glance to quiet, violence. Who would protect them from the riders if they were to overthrow the nobles? A civil war would weaken the country and doom it.

>>6319456
Hmmm, shit.

EXPLOITABLE BARBARIANS IT IS.

>>6319446
Freyr is with the other nobles in the city, behind towering ancient stone walls on a mountain. You have the noble to play the part, but not the money to pass off as nobles.

I remember a while back someone said to kill someone and make it look like a monster. Then go and kill a monster/ bear/ scary animal and see if we can twist it to our own evil baddie to sow fear and suspecion

>>6319539
would it not be imperative then that we accumulate coin? Also, guys we should probably just get the barbarian leadership on our side, maybe get some to convert to Evilism. Since we need money and they need money it makes sense we should help each other out.

>>6319553
I say we do this, kill a bunch of fuckers on the road and let it seem like it was monsters/whatever. Don't let them damage the goods they are carrying tho, we take their wagons/ carts/ horses and sell them.

Do this for a few nights and make plenty of cash.

>buy a bunch of clothes and stuff to go with those weapons you bought, sway the exploitable barbarians to your side and give them the clothes as disguises, get the barbarians into town quietly, have them assassinate Freyr and take control of the city.

i think this is a good plan, but it needs some fine tuning.

>>6319582
>>6319553
Killing people mercilessly for their is something bandits do, which is base for you, but money is money. If you are going to do this though, you will need to be clever about it and devise a plan that will not get you caught.

>>6319456
"You defend the nobles, but what have they truly done for you? Oh yes, they ride to war... after your homes are burned and your women raped. Yes, they patrol the border... only to take more in tribute than the savages they are defending against would. How many years have you toiled, labored, and bled for the land you live on? Since your father's father's father you've worked the land in the east, but only to get savaged when the barbarians come, your winter food taken to feed the "defending" soldiers, and your sons taken to fill the ranks of the army! Why do you stand for this, when you are the ones those parasites live off of? And now, now they strike at your very livelihood! Did you think the grain prices were a mere market fluctuation? Hah! Have you not noticed the soldiers these days? The military is mobilizing, once again to trample your fields, plow your daughters, and laugh at your life while you bear the brunt of the eastern wastes so they can grow fat! But there is a problem this time. The nobles don't want to spend the money to feed their soldiers, so they have once again dipped into your pockets. Earlier today Lord Freyr's steward himself secretly met with some of the grain cartels and forced the prices lower, simply so they could buy up your goods without much cost to themselves! How can you stand for this!? Stand up and be heard, show them that you are not going to be used again!"

>>6319631
Woah, way more wall of text than I had hoped. Anyway, drop something like this on them next time they are gathered and discontent.

>>6319625
How long do we intend to use the barbarians? Because if they are a short term instrument to merely get us into power, we'll need a way to get rid of them later without drawing attention to ourselves.

this city was described as an >impenetrable fortress,
perfect for a headquarters if you ask me

Freyr and the barbarians are not going anywhere so it is a good idea to pursue these other ideas first ( making yourself look like a hero to the locals, and acquiring currency.)

>>6319631
With 'Imply' your words bite deep into their skepticism. But price fixing? And mobilizing the troops before harvest doesn't make sense to the people. But can you make their lives better like you would suggest. How would they live if they did not belong to the nobles?

The seeds of rebellion have long been buried in the frozen soil of this land. Trodden over with horses hooves and centuries of unquestioned leadership from their nobles.

That is when after a few days the prices of grain skyrocket. The farmers unloading their supplies to the merchants and paying their taxes to the nobles so that they might eat and drink has made the money they have earned barely enough to eat. An outrage. The pieces are falling into place.

It will be a while before we can even get to the barbarians to talk to them. Sure they would be inclined to raid, but they are in the eastern mountains and this is the bloody capital. They won't be swarming around here any time soon.

We would have to travel to the east and work with a bunch of disunified mongols, decent plan... hordes of wildmen are a valuable asset, but we are already here in a heart of civilization and I think we could probably do better than a bunch of barbarians with swords. They already have guns and cannon now, remember? Barbarian horsemen won't be nearly as good as they were during the days of the Golden Horde.

>>6319715
Sow the seeds of rebellion and ignite a class war. Then while the city is fighting itself coerce the barbarians into laying siege to the city.

>>6319657
if we have a bunch of money, and what was it now, up to 10k barbarians all we have to do is keep the barbarians happy and under our influence and we own the city (barbarians have low int so the new manipulation power will help.) Just have to find a way to get the people to view the barbarians as liberators instead of pillagers. So setting yourself up as a local hero is crucial to the plan. you simply sneak a liberation army into town during the next big party (disguised as peasants or whatever) and take over. You will then have an army of barbarian followers and a productive merchant city in an impenitrable fortress under your control.

>what could go POSSIBLY wrong?

>>6319762
I don't know. I think leading a rebellion and then bringing the hordes under your control would be better than hordes->townsmen. How could they ever trust you when you lead a bunch of people who have been raping and pillaging them for decades if not centuries? On the other hand, if you take them over and THEN make the barbarians fall under your sway... well, you just did the impossible, pacified the implacable foe, gained a whole lot of barbarians to throw into meat grinders, and become a hero for bringing safety to the ravaged eastern border.

Tell me, how far does >imply work?

>>6319720
ok the barbarians can be left alone for now. BUT IF THEIR IS A FETCH-QUEST TO THOSE EASTERN MOUNTANS OR SOMETHING WE MUST MINDSLAVE THE BARBARIAN ARMY WHILE WEARE THERE.

>>6319836
If we get out that way, we challenge the Barbarian warlord 1 on 1 and soul oblit him as soon as possible. Depending on how that goes, it could get us a ton respect and barbarian followers.

As you ponder your options the city has begun to deteriorate and the party atmosphere has all but vanished. Those that have become frightened have cut their losses and have begun to flow out of the city in droves back to their homes. Those that remain are mostly the original inhabitants of the city, merchants and die hard peasants that were susceptible to your venomous words. Protests have started to appear all over the city, many of the demagogues stealing your words as they demand fair markets and treatment. These are often put down with a show of force, no one seems ready or prepared for active resistance. You sit in an alley with a cart full of weapons along with Kelgris and Catharine. With the constant buzz of the party over, the visible winds swirling around the city. If you pay attention enough when a whisp of wind blows past your ear you hear whispers. You pick up fragments of conversation. They are warnings of a possible rebellion and segments of other unimportant or unintelligible private conversations.

>>6319815
You give me convincing words and I judge if they are powerful enough with your presence to sway the hearts and minds of those that listen.

You know what we need to do?

We need someone to die.

Not really.

But the peasants and regular people hear about fine upstanding folk murdered by the city guard for protesting.

>>6319799
barbarian army plan is on backburner for now, lets go with the killing traveling merchants, selling and/or keeping their stuff, making it look like a monster did it, kill a random monster you lure into the area monster and become false hero, plan

with this plan you acquire evil points, currency, and a false local hero rep.

Search the poorest places of town and find poor wretches who can't even eat. Big strong woodcutters, farmers, and the like. None too smart, but they must all have muscle. Feed them, buy them some nondescript clothes, then tell them that if they follow you then they will never go hungry, be paid in silver and revenge against the whoresons who drove them to this point. Once they are convinced, ask them who some of the local miscreants are, pickpockets and the like.

Now, go to the streetwise guys with a plan and your new muscle in tow. Dominate them with your eyes, if any of them talk back let Kelgris display why that's a bad idea and in general make sure they know you mean fucking buisiness. Then promise they will be paid well for their services, provided they don't let a peep out of what they are doing. Give them weapons, and have them plant caches of them around town in the back allies and wynds. Keep a couple back to draw maps of the city, criminal dens, and lesser-known backdoors.

After that's accomplished, send them around to see where the biggest pockets of the impovershed are, and go there. Make speeches playing on the lack of food and point out how the nobles are just getting fatter and richer up in their fortress while they sit there and take it up the ass again. But there is another way! Follow me and cast of their chains! And so on. Distribute the maps to the natural leaders of the groups and assing each of them one of the rouges you have bought. Tell them that now is the time to cast off the shackles, and let all the peices be set into motion.

Continued -->

>>6319871
Was actually planning to say this when we were far more powerful, but oh well:
"I AM THE NEW GOD! ALL IS ONE IN THE OVERLORD! THIS MIGHTY BODY IS MY CHURCH! WHEN I COMMAND YOUR SURRENDER, I SPEAK WITH THREE MILLION VOICES! WHEN I MAKE A FIST TO CRUSH YOUR RESISTANCE... IT IS WITH THREE BILLION HANDS! WHEN I STARE INTO YOUR EYES AND SHATTER YOUR DREAMS.... IT IS WITH SIX BILLION EYES!!!!! NOTHING LIKE ME HAS EVER COME AMONG YOU; NOTHING WILL AGAIN! I WILL TAKE YOU TO A HELL WITHOUT EXIT OR END! AND THERE, I WILL MURDER YOUR SOULS....AND MAKE YOU CRAWL AND BEG! AND DIE! DIE! DIE FOR THE EVIL ONE!"

Ok iv been thinking, if we do get out to the barbarians, in their description the only seem to raid because they like taking shiny, valuable stuff. if these barbarians have been taking valuable stuff for centuries(?) then they have a Huge hoard of superfluous treasure and they may be enclined to give some to their new friend (if they REALLY like you). I am so optimistic.

While all this is going on have Catherine go to the nobility. Being a noble herself, have her go to the court and deliver dire warnings of rebellion and fabricate stories of things like peasants spitting on noble crests and openly talking of rebellion. How does she know all this? Well, she has given her oath to a former noble who was deposed by an upstart in the north, of course. He was betrayed and nearly killed by the very ones who owed him their lives and service! Horrendous, isn't it? And recently the nobility in (insert name of first town we slaughtered here) were all put to the sword by peasants again!

Have her schedule a meeting between us and the nobles. We'll play it by ear when that comes around, depending on how much they are buying of it.

Anyway, the key point is having her put the fear of god into them, make them paranoid and ready to crack down hard. When they do it will be our time to rise up and join whichever side looks stronger.

>>6319890
I like the false hero bit, save them from the big bad monster increase rep, get gold, get trust. Use it to manipulate.

>>6319913
>>6319953
>>6319962
>>6319978
people typing moar then the quest runner = failtown

>>6319913
as we seem to currently be IN the city this is a good plan. lets do this now, and begin set up of the "Local hero saves traveling merchants from merchant ripping monster" plan. for the apearance of monster induced wounds you will need to buy an exotic blade. perhaps a claw of some kind.

>>6319890
Reference other threads. Monsters don't exist anymore. At least no one has confirmed a monster sighting for centuries.

>>6319913
>>6319978
The whole movement in this city is a disaster and uncoordinated. Your attempts to organize it to something more pleasing is hard work, but ultimately unsatisfying. Using your 'Imply' your words make you a more popular demagogue out of many that run amok in the city now.

You've experienced talking to the miscreants before with the Hinterport Dockworkers and with a strong hand and promise of riches they reluctantly agree to take your weapons from you. Instead of distributing them they start selling them to those die hard enough to pass up meals to take up arms. With an influx of weapons into the population rioting and looting becomes more and more common among other crimes. Being so disorganized they are as likely to attack each other then they are to actually do anything. With more choice work you attempt to join them together. Catharine however refuses to go alone to the nobles, and persistently begs you to accompany her.

>>6320076
>Monsters don't exist anymore.
facepalm.jpg

forget the monster bit and insert "traveling merchant ripping bandits" and the plan is even more sound, don't even need to buy an exotic weapon now.

>>6320076
Let's get dressed up and go then. If we can hide our evil and play it by ear, might go okay.

>>6320076
Unfortunate, but still decent for us. Not really evil yet, but rioting and rebellion are never called good. Alright, head to the nobles with her, see what the word is in the high halls. Need to take into account what the people with the soldiers are thinking.

>>6320131
And just because monsters no longer exist does not mean we might not be able to create some.

Look what we did to Kel. He's a fucking undead monster. Imagine if we did that to a goddamn bear.

Acquire appropriate attire to pose as her manservant, and accompany here to the nobles.

>>6320133
>>6320147
Buy some new clothes first. We need something better than ragged robes when we meet the nobles.

Nothing too fancy though, we don't want them feeling threatened by us. Let Catherine pick out what we should wear, she would probably know better.

>>6320147
>>6320133
You will need money for that. Expensive clothes to play the part and all that. Too bad you only have a couple hundred left after buying those weapons... You have about 400 silver coins left, actual gold or a lot of silver will be needed.

Monsters would be a bad idea at this point. We don't want anarchy, we want a self-led rebellion against the nobles. Throwing monsters into the mix will make the people scared and go to the nobles for safety, undermining the work we just did to get them all riotous and discontent.

>>6320179
What is the market doing? Is it even open in the anarchy?

I think we need a general description of the state of affairs we have caused and the status of the city. What are the soldiers doing? Are the streets empty out of fear? Refugee tent-camps in the streets?

>>6320179
I vote we begin to ambush people for money, and plant evidence that it was either done by Noble's men, or guided by their hand as punishment for the people's riots.

-or- we cleverly find a girl in the town who is well liked. Then we find a guard of low level Noble who has relatives higher up, and accuse him of or mentally tell him to rape her.

The 2nd plan would organize people to avenge her. You could lead that anger.

Bonus points if she goes along with the plan for person gain.

>>6320213
Burn crops
Blame Nobles
?????
Profit!

>>6320213
Law abiding citizens have been pushed out into the outer city to avoid the anarchy inside. The inner city is where the actual trouble is occurring, the streets are mostly empty, some bands of town guard patrol the areas in large groups. All those who stayed to rebel against the price fixing hide in doors and underground. The nobles are sitting in the citadel and the army still stationed there has not moved at all. They seem content on riding it out, they have all the food and protection they need anyways. Seems they expected this could happen.

>>6320252
Kinda like this idea. Get all the "white knights" behind a lie. Rile them up then go take revenge. Assume control in the aftermath via religion, force, or politics.

>>6320252
i second the rape and revenge plan

>>6320252
Hmmm.

We need more money than knocking off a few merchants or peasants could get us. We need real money.

I suggest we find a wealthy merchant and scout him out. See what security is and such. We need cash backing, so we might want to try sneaking in and Obliterating him. We want a smart one with LOTS of money though, we can't waste Obliterates. Especially not with that elven feeling we head at the start.

If the guard is too tight we should look around for other promising ways to make money. If the market is fluctuating really wildly we could try playing it. Inciting peasants to raid a banking house and then sneaking out with some cash wile the guards slaughter them is also an option.

How about a city map and list of prominent people?

>>6320252
>>6320288
>>6320294
You'd have to pull a noble from the mountain to pull this off. Don't expect me to fill in all the gaps in for you guys. That would be no fun at all.

We should also work to subvert the army, making fight for us.

>>6320260
we seem to be at a crossroads, we could
A) end the rebellion with a show of force or something and get in good with the nobles,
B)Get the simpletons into the citadel somehow so the can slaughter the nobles and make you hero of the people
C)just leave the city in chaos and go get that barbarian treasure in the eastern mountains?
D)stop being playing like a chaotic neutral and actually set forth some well laid plans.

So basically ... we -can- do what?

Look guys, we need coin to look like a noble so, lets go make some quick cash even if its low brow methods. Raid merchants on the road, sneak onto ships in the docks... take the ship out to Pirate a little.

Either way we go, lets focus on getting coin and looking important, but a noble on the common people's side.

>>6320433
Someone just made a lot of money recently... Come on I know you can do it annon.

I say we let the city stew in it's own juices for a while, tell the people who are most faithful to you to spread the word that you're going to be trying to pacify those barbarian hordes for them. If we pull off getting them under our control, the peasants will love us for conquering their enemies, and they will further realize that we did in a week what the nobles have claimed was impossible for generations. We then hand out copious amounts of whoop-ass. Also, make sure Kelgris is with us when we speak to the barbarians. He'll get us street-cred.

>>6320470
If there is only one real option then why is this a quest thread and not a story?

>>6320470
IIRC that was the nobles... who are locked up behind the army. If we could get up there in the first place we wouldn't need the money, now would we? Suggestions to try and find a rich merchant and scope out what it would take to get to him and oblit are already on the table.

>>6320494
Its only one option, but its a convenient one to get things moving since I'm getting bored at this stagnation.

>>6320355
how
>>6320260
its true, this wont work until the chaos dies down and the nobles come out of their "citadel"

we really need money so we can go with Cathrine to see the nobles.
were the hell is Kelgris?
that barbarian treasure looks really good right now.

new idea tell me if you like it, leave cathrine and kelgris incharge of the situation in the town with the orders for cathrine to establish herself among the nobles and kelgris with the orders to follow up on >>6319913 and start a big criminal underground. whilst you and a repeatedly and thoroughly imply slaved peasant go into the eastern mountans and find the barbarians.

If we can >imply to creatures, we should find us a nice nasty mass of crows or nasty bugs whatever you wish as long as its small, scary and potentially deadly en Mass.

We then send the creatures on the nobles so they have to leave their little hide out.

Does anyone else get an audience with the nobles? Say, the merchants, or the head of the the town guard? I say we infiltrate under the guise of such instead of trying to pass off as a noble.

Ok, I'll take the hint.

Let's rob the guy we bought these weapons from.

I say we find a clothier, and convert him to our cause.
I mean what man wouldn't want to make clothes for our dearest dark queen, or our own powerful self.

that way we can use we were raided by the peasants to get by the front gate. Have Catharine make flirty eyes at the main lord here. use our power to sneak into the meeting with Catharine and Lord Freyr.
Kill convert him whatever blame the towns people.

Class war and lots of money

>>6320627

or this

>>6320627
>>6320628
Combine these two. their ideas are usually good.

>>6320652

BY OUR POWERS COMBINED WE HAVE ONE SET OF ARMS!

>>6320628
I'm pretty sure making flirty eyes is the exact opposite of what Catherine wants to do with nobles. She didn't even want to talk to them without us there.

>>6320703

just Lord Freyr as to get the 2 of them alone for us to deal with.

>>6320551
The problem is Catharine refuses to part with you at any time. She has been quite adamant about that. Kelgris is always at your back ever vigil to kill anything that tries to get in your way. He also refuses to leave your side. They are attached to you at all times unless you want to be really stern and demanding of it.

>>6320627
Close enough, the mystery
was those thieves that doubled crossed you and sold the weapons you gave them to distribute.

>>6320603
They need to be intelligent.

>>6320628
Getting your investment back and more buying good clothes shouldn't be a problem, and robbed by rebellious peasants should be enough to get on by since that was the next problem. A drop of the Hinter name from Catharine along with the dress to fit the part allows you inside the citadel. Not very much news has come out of here, but it seems there is a grand ball taking place at this time. A luxurious castle to be sure surrounded by over a thousand troops. Seems surreal these people think they can get away with it.

So close to the citadel you can finally see where all those winds were coming from. An academy attached to the citadel wall and built into the mountain. A self proclaimed, "Mage Academy".

Now you must prepare your alibis and such before hand. For whatever you wish to do.

>Mage Academy
Well, shit.

>>6320764
Any elves give us shit, lets make sure to supress our aura as much as possible, and claim to have been attacked while in the wastes like our very first story.

This way they won't be so quick to so "Yo dawg you evil! "

>>6320805
Guess what would have happened if you did any powerful magic?

Uh oh! Good on you /tg/.

chaos in the streets, nobles locked up in their no touch zone, some fanatical peasnts who like you, you are low on money,

in this situation another good idea would be to cut your losses.
sense the nobles and their guard are all in the center of the city, Set Fire to key positions in the city interior and watch it burn to the ground, use lamp oil to spread the fire quickly most of the population is in the outer city limits so the peasantry will be unharmed, when the nobles flee the flames blame them for the fire (with a little boost from imply of course) and watch the entire population of the city tear them to pieces. once the fires die down rally the people with a common good speech (someone start writing one now) and keep doing stuff that makes Cathrine seem like New Queen material.

if all goes to plan you should end up with the treasury's of all the dead nobles, a crispy new impenetrable fortress city. and the city guard under the command of your subordinate.
we have the peasnts rebuild and we go from their,

>>6320764

Cathrine needs to tell of the horrors these peasants can cause. She needs to get these nobles scared and move their armies out into the city. And convince Lord Freyr that they should talk some where private. Make sure Cathrine knows we will be there for her shortly. have Kelgris deal with any guards that try to stop the fight between you and Lord Freyr. Soul oblit him then start the class war.

>>6320764
Investigate the ball.

Did we bring any guns with us?

>>6320826
I mean we have the peasants rebuild in our image
and the fire though it damages the property value, gives is evil points and Really makes the peasants angry at the nobles.

1.Do something terrible without using magic, but can be explained away as magic by looks.
2. Blame mages
3.????
4.Profit.

>>6320843
See if you can telepathically communicate with Catherine due to the symbol. It might prove good for a heavily guarded and populated areas to be able to issue commands without saying them.

>>6320999
burn down city as in
>>6320826
say mages and nobles did it, watch nobles AND mages torn apart by the entire population, set Cathrine up as an honorable prospect for a new ruling class, use imply to encourage everyone to think this is a good idea.

Let's schmooze with the nobles and see if there is anyone we can exploit or twist to our will.

>>6321001
Sorry no, the symbol does not resonate with any eldritch energies...yet.

>>6320872
If you want to leave the citadel at any point to do so you can see how that goes.

>>6320843

Naheland is not as rich and not very industrialized as other countries it would seem by appearances. Mass gun production is not so common. And no one took too much interesting in guns from what I remember.

>>6320826
>>6320855
As you approach the doors to the citadel two armed guards stop you. They tell you that guests are not permitted to carry weapons inside the castle and going in will mean their confiscation. They also tell you that your bodyguard may not follow. Kelgris is not pleased, but you have no choice if you want to interact with the nobles. You tell Kelgris to sneak in another way if he must.

Inside the castle the entry way huge and spacious with a domed roof high above has been adorned with fine linen and has been built with the finest of marble. The building despite the outward appearance inside looks a century more advanced then the hovels outside.

It doesn't take long for some of the nobles to approach the new comers to their party. "Oh my, late comers I see. I heard there was a bit of a tussle outside for the last few days. Terrible really. But who might you be my lady?"

Catharine hesitates a moment gathering confidence first, "Catharine. Catharine Hinter."

There is a moment of silence as those around your conversation freeze to listen in.

"A Hinter! Here?" The noble looks hard through his monocle. "I see the hair, and the eyes. No doubt. But who is this?" He gestures in your direction.

>>6321111
no, lets kill all the nobles and replace them with Cathrine

>>6321169
Lets knock some plates over and take a drink of wine and fix our hair with it while licking our lips, start asking where we can find harvy dent.

We're her gentleman caller.

Or bodyguard.

Whatever.

>>6321169
Lie. Think up a decent sounding name, claim to either be her lover or a distant cousin with a skin condition, hence the hood etc. Put our silver tongue into action.

Find Feyr. Isolate and soul obliterate him. Whatever happens, it will be interesting.

Kelgris became an unstoppable machine of destruction. The captain turned into a skull/super map.

This guy, could go anywhere. But it's worth it.

If people ask, we have no idea where he went.

>>6321169
ok i see where this is going, get Cathrine in good with the nobles legitimately and "then" kill them all and put her on a throne. sounds good
but some part of the city must still burn at some point.

>>6321169

Or name shall be Griffith Vanguard Femento

rolled 8, 3, 4, 1, 10, 2, 9, 2, 9, 10 = 58

>>6321169
A simple man, sworn to her service.

>>6321169
Well, this is awkward.

>>6321216
Better yet, claim we were disfigured defending her from the commoners who caused so much damage back in whatever town that was where we killed everyone. Also, Kelgris saved you from death, which is why you two seem so close despite his surly demeanor.

is it possible to push ourselves and use obliterate on the entire room save for our-self and Catherine?

>>6321268

We aren't that powerful yet.

But lets introduce our selves and make some chaos by having Cathrine tell her (fake) story.

>>6321260
I'm okay with this.

If people don't know what happened in the old town and think that she is dead, she should go ahead and explain that we saved her after the terrible ordeal, but she's unsure who to trust after the whole mess and trying to lie low away from home.

>>6321290
Yeah. Have Catherine tell a great tale to distract the entire court. Then we sneak around and soul Obliterate Feyr or whoever we can.

>>6321268
For future reference. To use Soul Obliteration you have to overpower your opponent and have time uninterrupted to channel the spell into their head. You can use it to finish off a foe for random results but it will not solve your problems.

>>6321305
We should isolate Feyr, or however you spell his name, and use soul oblit in a surprise attack if we can. And if we can't, we knock him with something on the back of his head, then oblit his soul.

>>6321253
A little late for that, we are far too well dressed and we wouldn't be accompaning her to a ball where nobles mix. Say that we are the new Lord Hornington, from an offshoot branch of the family. We recently rose with the old lord's death and likewise married the woman he was betrothed to.

Lets just follow through with the plan now.

And we have sent messages to Kelgris before. have him rally the peasants. Tell them that the man trying to help them was captured and is about to be executed.

>>6321301
Yes, tell Cath to tell them how you saved her, and tell her to feel free to explain your reason for hiding your face.

Make her play that she needs everyone to be hush hush about her living through that night, and suggest that her own family might be after her for dark reasons.

Find out whats become of the town since you left too.

>>6321305
thanks

>>6321260
>>6321290
are fine with me but we still need a false name, how are we dressed? equal or lower class than Catherine? if equal say you are her uncle if slightly lower then pass yourself off as someone of lesser importance than a hinter.

rolled 7, 1, 7, 2, 10, 4, 6, 3, 9, 6 = 55

>>6321305
Thank you.
That should solve some,
>HOLY SHIT SOUL OBLIT EVERYONE

>>6321211
>>6321252
>>6321253
"Femento? I've never heard the name before. Are you from the Republics? Or maybe the Principalities?" At the drop of those locations interest seems to have been lost in you as the nobles go about their business. "I'm truly surprised to see a Hinter still alive really. Even if this party remains such a bore I was lucky to be treated to such a rare occasion."

When you about Freyr the noble you are talking to simply sips from his wine in an unconcerned manner. "Lord Freyr has finally decided to do something about the peasants. I'm sure his majesty will understand later. He is far too young to understand a situation like this."

>>6321371

We are Griffith Vanguard Femento

the most evil mother fucker on the planet with so much just as planned I stole the name for some one appropriate.

BRILLIANT PLAN: Say that everything that happened in the old town was extremely sudden, but it appeared to have been the work of many of the common folk in town working in secret to undermine the ruling class, servants and workers attacking in the night and the like. Make them paranoid, see if we can get a witch hunt going for conspirators, bonus evil points for innocents being locked up/tortured/executed out of fear.

Let's fuck that bitch up

Freyr I mean

Turn him into something useful

Fuck it. We're her savior and her lover. <Insert fancy name here> And if Cath don't tell the story epicly, then we tell it all epic like.

Get these fat over payed shits eating out of our hands and feeding us info until we decide how to use them like the pigs they are.

>>6321348
>>6321351
>>6321353
and the peasants burn down the citadel

Say that the lower casts are rising up all over the world, the wealthy and powerful are the source of jealousy and hatred that you've never seen before.

You saved Cath from such an uprising, and you are afraid one will happen here as well, but don't fear, you lead Cath here with the ship to warn these nobles about dark things coming.

Feed them the bullshit till they would follow you or listen to your advice to save their own asses.

Keep the useful ones. Get the others killed.

>>6321477

Cause only those useful to evil will survive

>>6321409
"Oh you are quite the lively one aren't you?" The stiff backed and proper noble turns to his wife laughing.

"Quite. Quite." His wife looks more like a perfectly round ball then a human being with all the furs and clothing on. You guess his mistress is of much better quality. Really these nobles make everything so redundant.

"What are a bunch of ruffians going to do? The Hussars of Naheland are in the city. The rebellion wont last until sunrise when Lord Freyr rides out.

Seems a lot of people are going to die tonight fighting for freedom and justice. It seems the wine and food up here is good. So who the hell cares right? You feel your heart palpitate more rapidly, you get the feeling it may have already started.

>>6321477
Blame some unnatural force. Use Cath's existance as proof that you've helped at least one noble before. Beg them to hear you out.

If they won't listen as a group or if someone thries to shut you down, tell the others one at a time he is the traitor among them.

Hurm thi puts a bit of a damper on our plans.

Notify Kelgris of this have him round up the rebels for a grand fight. while Lord Freyr is busy we will use
> imply
to get the noble scared. It uses a small amount of magic so the mages shouldn't care.

>>6321509
"Magic exists in proof of the mage's academy no? Then fools what makes you think only they can control it? What would happen if a fool low life low caste monster had -power- he didn't understand!?"

"That is what happened before, that is what blotted out the star and what made the noble house their almost come to an end. Only Cath listened to me. Only she survived. Please. Don't let her be the only survivor of this.. you must trust me. You must let me get you out of this."

Any light >implying we can put behind these words without pissing off the mages to our location should be done.

If they fall for it and none show any real progress, we should lead the pigs right to the hungry mobs.

>>6321522
Beg? Screw that, we're not going to grovel before these fools. We're getting stronger already thanks to the rebellion being put down and the freedom fighters crushed by the nobility. Not quite as planned, but very good anyway. Better to try and exploit the hatreds between nobles and cause even more strife that way since we are here. Ask our lovely lady which nobles here are which, and which historically hate one another.

>>6321569
Do this, but instead of leading them to the mobs, get them to consider ordering their guards to kill some of the rebels or innocents.

Then aim them at the mage guild claiming that the academy secretly wants power and is giving magic to the lower casts to give them an advantage over the nobles.

>>6321477
The noble couple look at each other and give another haughty laugh. "I see, you must be from the Principalities. Life is hard there for people looking to true blooded nobles like us."

"True darling, I hear the average despot lasts less then a year there."

"Life elsewhere is quite pleasant elsewhere you'll see Femento. The people know their place. And as sure as Valtir in the sky it will stay that way."

>>6321569
"The mages read book upon book all day long and nothing else, so dreary really."

"Really it is darling."

"Thank you, yes only people with a proper upbringing ever learn to read. But I say my boy, what is this place you keep talking about burning to the ground? Hinterport? Never heard of it."

>>6321618
2nd this.

Guys, I hate to say it but you are trying to swing a hammer in a china shop. These are jaded nobles, we aren't going to be implying them into a blood frenzy without some "evidence".

Perhaps we should ask about the magic academy first before blindly accusing it of doing X or Y. Get a general feel for the atmosphere.

>>6321660
Well, if the nobles are all this blindingly stupid, why not just go with it? Side with the nobility, have them crush the common folk, and then let the Barbarians waltz into the town after the bloodshed.

these nobles are wasting our time. Lord Freyr must be somewhere near by. Find him and tell our tale. be sure to add in alot of fake tears Cathrine, and get Freyr to talk to her alone, while we sneak into the room and then fight him.

>>6321660
They have head of the girl, and knew her by name. But the town Hinterport that has the same name they have never heard of? And news of the terrible shit has not come around? Okay.

I say its time to stop trying to be Lawful evil for a min and bust out the Chaotic evil till we have a power base.

Slaughter these fucks. Leave the most annoying couple for the crowds to fuck up and torture. Make sure the crowds know we fucking hand fed them the nobles.

>>6321734
Femento used summon minion Kelgris

Hes super effective!

>>6321734
Yeah fuck it kill them all, Soul Oblit or dont the last or most useful looking one. Don't Oblit if it looks like it will draw magical attention.

>>6321734
Because that would be so smart with the guards just outside. Really it would.

>>6321811
Kelgris meet "guards" who no longer have anyone to protect.

Your patience is running thin and you clench your fists and...

The doors to the great ball room swing open once more as the gathered nobles gasp at the loud noise as a large man wearing full plate armor, sword in hand and helmet cradled in the other strides into the room with five other men following. You quickly notice he is also covered in fresh blood. The other nobles look wary of his appearance and cower away, Freyr so far emotionless face finally speaks.

"Afraid of me are you? I just killed traitors to save all your lives. You westerners are all so pitiful. Does Naheland have to do everything for you?" The crowd parts as he continues walking, "This is my home, do not judge me for doing as I please. I am going to wash and meet with the king so move it!"

He looks his eyes on your person for but a moment and says not a word as he walks past up the stairs into the inner part of the castle.

>>6321811

Thats why we are bring the rebellion to us.

The nobles expect that Fryer is going to go fight the rebels not the other way around.

And having Kelgris come to aid us before we start our slaughter will distract the guards.

MUST HAVE PEASANTS TO RIP AND TEAR NOBLES AFTER CASTLE AND A LOT OF CITY IS "VERY BADLY BURNED"

better yet set the castle on fire and lock the door when you leave

>>6321839

Use
>imply
the noble fear him now.

" You just saw not a man but a monster walk through those doors. No man just and wise as he would simply kill commoners even though they were rebelling, they would have stopped at his wish. The people loved him and they payed for their ignorance. Truly nobles such as your self's are smarter than the filth outside your walls, Strike the tyrant down while you can!"

I'm going to end things on this note, since it is getting late.

While I don't mind all the "kill maim and burn" suggestions, keep in mind that unless presented in a plausible way I have to ignore them. A little more planning and cunning needed, that's all. I'll continue this on a later date.

>>6321839
This is our kind of guy. We must have him!

Unfortunately we will need to avoid the notice of the mages. See if we can get a meeting with Freyer before his audience with the king.

>>6321891
My first few "burn the city down suggestions were entirely plausible," I am offended by your thinly veiled insinuation that my ideas were simply Khornate in nature. Slathering a few houses in lamp oil in the dead of night and surrounding the citadel in flame is the first step, not difficult to accomplish, and certainly faster than this round about "story" out quest is enduring. when the nobles flee the burning castle rallying the already rallied and angry peasantry to kill the nobles for their burning of the city. Sense you seem to intend on surprising us with Freyr as a powerful mage that you possibly want us to ensnare as a follower after some kind of contrived "boss fight" their is no reason that couldn't happen after the other nobles are dead. recomending Catharine as a new ruler is a simple matter after this. and then one can simply rebuild the capital city of the nation in ones own image from behind the puppet on the throne and acquire Currency.

>>6322066
wow i skipped whole words...

and i just updated the archive on sup /tg/