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    9 KB Deity Quest, part 5 Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:07 No.6204898  
    >part 4: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6190957 and http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6193290

    "Farewell, little god. Have fun."
    You feel much safer now, as you sense your greatest adversary turned his attention elsewhere.

    It's time to reassess the situation.

    The pantheon currently consists of:
    You, Hyperion, god of knowledge, protection and fire.
    Your son Hagran, god of craft, skill, war and courage.
    Your daughter Shyla, Hagran's wife, goddess of agriculture, fertility, nature and healing.
    The divinely empowered otter, Otto, has ascended to a godhood as well, becoming a patron of tricksters, cunning and humor, especially practical jokes.

    On the material plane, you completely control one island. Otto has spread your cult on five other, and you are able to contact the people of a further seven islands. The Masters' forces are demoralised by the recent events and their loyalty will soon be non-existant.

    In your divine realm, the situation is worse. You managed to seal the intrusion away, but you suspect that a long-term solution is necessary. You have considered creating an army of servants, lindorms and golems. Unfortunately, your attempts at creating life were unsuccessful so far.
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 10/09/09(Fri)17:08 No.6204923
    rolled 6, 14, 4 = 24

    Create a lake of quintessence.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:10 No.6204946
    Don't create life- ask our followers if they are ready to give up their souls to do battle against the horrors from the abyss.

    put them to good use.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:11 No.6204958
    >Assuming you mean the vaguely defined "soul-stuff"
    Very well, you channel a large amount of it from the Source.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:12 No.6204970

    Why do people have such terrible goddamn ideas? We have few enough followers already.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:12 No.6204975
    How have the dead of our followers been disposed of so far? (prior to our coming)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:12 No.6204978
    Eleven devoted followers answer your request.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:13 No.6204990
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:14 No.6204996
    You recently gained a lot of new followers, so that's not nearly as big a problem.

    Prior to your coming? The soul-stuff dispersed into the world and the consciousness returned to the crystal in the Source.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:14 No.6205001
    Contacting the dead people of our followers to protect their descendants?
    Sounds like a plan.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:15 No.6205006
    The bodies specifically.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:15 No.6205009
    Good, more Lovecraftian/Abyssal fun.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:16 No.6205022
    If so i'd prefer the Lindorm/Golem path with them rather than outright necromancy. We've got to keep up appearances after all. (and dammit we don't need to give Y'chak any funny ideas)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:17 No.6205027
    Fuck yeah, otto is a god.

    I love that little guy
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 10/09/09(Fri)17:17 No.6205028
    rolled 10, 15, 6 = 31

    Can you protect things from time itself? If so, stasis your enemies.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:18 No.6205041
    We create our twin gods of life/death to set up a system so our follower's souls are stopped from returning to the source and instead they are recreated into our divine army of golem, angel, whatevers.

    If I remember correctly that was the original problem with creating golems or artificial life no? No real soul?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:19 No.6205043
    okay, what can we do with them?
    have we any combat ready bodies to put them in?
    I assume taking them alive bypasses the earlier problems we had with soulstuff?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:19 No.6205047
    Let's try creating some forms for these to assume.
    Lindorms, Firey golems, perhaps something else as well?
    Some form of Scribe/Librarian fellas?
    Any ideas guys?
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:20 No.6205055
    >I do not agree with 3.5's "Necromancy is always evil" approach. Trying to circumvent it with things like "deathless" isn't to my liking either. Still, the humans might not appreciate it. And anyway:
    Given to the ocean, usually.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:20 No.6205059
    inb4 404
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:21 No.6205062

    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:22 No.6205070
    Agreed on the necromancy thing, which is why I said appearances. And even if "negative energy = evil" then it still would depend on the culture in question imo.
    But yeah, Glass Golems with Fire in them and Lindorms.
    We need to come up with more. (2 forms is just too little)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:22 No.6205076
    That's beyond your capabilities for now. When your followers are counted in millions, not hundreds, perhaps...

    You know how to create a body suitable for the soul to inhabit. Hagran should have no problems creating such things, whatever shape you choose.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:23 No.6205081
    Meant the glass golem thing mentioned. (it's mentioned in one of the older threads)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:23 No.6205086

    Burn things onto parchment with heated writing tools. That would be kinda cool.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:23 No.6205088
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 10/09/09(Fri)17:24 No.6205092
    rolled 9, 10, 18 = 37

    Okay, gather a few different types of natural energies and make a few empty shell bodies to put them in place of where the souls would go. Observe.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:24 No.6205093
    Yes, that was the problem. You wish to bring those deities into existence now?
    >That's a thing I'd like to see voted upon.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:25 No.6205106
    No, Reality isn't Plasma.
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 10/09/09(Fri)17:26 No.6205110
    rolled 7, 15, 10 = 32

    I don't see the point.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:26 No.6205116
    Voting yes.
    Having them be our wives for fucked up family values for extra fun, but a yes from me even without that. :)
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:26 No.6205123
    Glass golems filled with divine fire.


    Sentient Armor, possibly on fire.

    Art Book (basically, a book, in it a soul and it uses MAGICX, in the book the story of the soul's life)

    Elevated mortals (later)

    Otters made out of unusual substances...
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:27 No.6205129
    See if we can set up some sort of ascendence system, as was discussed earlier. The twins could be in charge of looking after it.

    The golems, being humanoid, seem the best idea for potential ascensions.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:27 No.6205134

    You create bodies of glass and fill them with divine fire. You proceed to reinforce them with magic. The souls of your followers enter them.

    The attempt is successful. You have your first servants in the Divine Realm.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:27 No.6205137

    Fire sprites?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:27 No.6205138
    I vote yes as well.

    Just not the wife bit, originally they were planned to be male, or genderless.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:28 No.6205140
    At this point in time, I don't think it's necessary
    We don't have enough followers to need this automated yet. I doubt we will have an endless slew of the dead to take for some time. I'm sure we can take what we need manually for now
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:28 No.6205142
    We need our own warriors to face the infinite demons that the Abyss spawns. Given that we don't have infinite followers, we need some way to recycle our warriors so that each warrior can take down or defeat many, many demons over a span of time.

    I am also worried about demons learning to influence the material world as we do, which could lead to all sorts of badness.

    So, two concerns: protecting the divine realm, and protecting the physical realm. To protect the physical realm, training up devoted and pious warriors in the art of combat and whatever means we have to strengthen their minds against Horrors from Beyond sounds like a very good start. If we an integrate users of the Art into their tactics, all the better.

    On the spirit-realm side, perhaps we could keep the souls and consciousnesses of our holy warriors, in order that they might continue to fight the good fight even should they be physically slain. An army of soldier-saints, as it were.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:28 No.6205148
    >Um, what?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:28 No.6205149
    well where the hell has plasma gone?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:29 No.6205157
    Let's put those spirits in a constant state of ecstasy. A reward.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:30 No.6205173
    Ok can we do some research on trying to get power over the crystal and see if it is back to normal now.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:30 No.6205174

    Also, we could charge the twins with the chore of instantly recapturing the souls of our fallen divine creatures and respawn them. Before they can get eaten by god knows what.

    Also before this turned into a fuckfest, I'd like to remind everyone that WE as Hyperion don't really have a humanoid form.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:30 No.6205176

    The reward is that the have all eternity to peruse the library and to become as knowlegable as their god.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:31 No.6205183

    Constant? I'm not sure that'd be good, really.

    I think that having cast off the frailties of mortal flesh to be reborn as tireless, ageless, powerful beings who get to serve their god directly would be more than enough of a rush to keep them enthusiastic.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:31 No.6205185
    >more servant forms
    Robotic Librarians.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:32 No.6205193
    "Even in death we still serve. It is its own reward."

    If the body is destroyed, you can simply create a new one for the soul. You're not certain whether the process can be repeated infinitely.

    You begin to search for suitable candidates to be trained as protectors of humanity.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:32 No.6205196
    Can we check on the crystal? If the bad guy isnt there then lets try to manipulate it.
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 10/09/09(Fri)17:32 No.6205200
    rolled 19, 4, 14 = 37

    My idea was to see what happens when you replace souls with fire.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:33 No.6205204

    Has some merit.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:33 No.6205209
    Lets try to manipulate the crystal so long as the bad guy is not there at the time.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:34 No.6205211
    I imagine true death would be a shock for our followers

    I get the feeling that this might hinder them if we choose to bring them back again. If it turns out to be a terror, we will have to make it their choice if they come back again and again
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:34 No.6205213
    Molten glass.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:35 No.6205222
    Thoughts on death: when a man dies, he soul travels to the Library. Inside, he tells the story of his life the the place's scribes, and it is written down. When a soul's stories and knowlege are sufficient to fill an entire book on the shelves of the Library, he is allowed entrance. His soul turns to divine flame is is set into a glass body, to serve his god in protection the Library and his followers and to seek knowlege for eternity inside the Library.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:37 No.6205237
    Oh, and see if these souls can travel to the mortal world and inhabit similar glass bodies there. They could act our servants and messengers in the mortal world when is necessary.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:37 No.6205238
    Sorry, misread that.
    Speaking of energies, you realize that you channel your divine fire from somewhere, not create it from nothing. Though investigating this can wait.

    The crystal seems to be fine, as far as you can tell with your limited understanding of it. You try manipulating it, since your power has increased substantially recently...

    Still nothing. It seems to be immune to any outside influence.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:37 No.6205239
    >On the material plane, you completely control one island.
    MTG roleplaying luls
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:37 No.6205241

    Yeah, recycling is good.

    At the moment the consciousnesses go back to the crystal and are effectively lost, right?

    How about snagging the consciousnesses before they do that, and instead reincarnating them anew? Is it a case of a fully-aware consciousness being born into a new infant body, or is the effect subtler than that?

    My thought is that perhaps by recycling these consciousnesses they might benefit from living many lives, being refined and strengthened and honed by lifetimes of experience.

    If we can do this with our paladins especially, having dead paladins reborn and raised and trained as paladins over and over until they are immaculate warriors of righteousness, that could be fucking awesome.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:39 No.6205253
    Yes, they are able to do this.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:40 No.6205263
    Deal with the material realm now. Status on the enemy archmage?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:41 No.6205276
    Funny how we're a god of knowledge and too much knowledge in the cthulhu mythos is never a good thing.
    But all that may have been changed of course.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:41 No.6205277
    You suspect the reincarnated soul wouldn't realize what happened to it, but would benefit from past memories, treating them mostly as "flashes of insight".
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:41 No.6205279

    Spread knowledge of this among our faithful. Make it known that if they encounter abominations, they need only pray to us and our servants will come to guard them from harm.

    We don't have the resources yet for our glass saints to be a full-fledged military, but being able to call them in as an emergency strike team in case of demonic incursion would be useful.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:42 No.6205284
    Has merit.

    Also, we should learn the whereabouts of the big city. But this can wait until current shitstorm ends.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:42 No.6205291
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:44 No.6205299
    What enemy archmage? Tymon is currently trying to deal with his whole worldview being completely annihilated by the Masters' recent actions. This goes for nearly every human servant of the Masters, too.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:45 No.6205307
    It is done. People are comforted to know this.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:45 No.6205308
    Know what we need trained among our people?
    Architects and Artists. (say musicians)
    Because dammit better living conditions and EXTRAVAGANT TEMPLES FOR FAITH.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:45 No.6205311
    one of my sex fantasies is a cheetah girl who is destined to grow up to be a powerful time traveler futa
    She constantly travels backward to when she was a teenager and impregnates herself as a maiden thus giving birth to herself by herself
    thus spawning an infinitely recurseive cycle of magical inbreeding which results in her breeding a magically perfect powerlord
    of course she is supermodel hot
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:45 No.6205312
    kill plasma
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:45 No.6205313
    Ouch. Yeah, I kind of forgot.
    Then we should turn up the heat of our conversion/preaching. And get to that big city our first mage friend talked about.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:47 No.6205325
    >more forms
    Robots for Mages.
    And the Armor thing Blackheart mentioned for the Warriors.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:47 No.6205329

    Rehabilitation seems like the way to go.

    They may have unleashed horrors, but they were tricked into doing so, deceived and misled. If they instead turn to us, we will find ways by which they might atone for their past actions, and in doing so build a bright future for the whole archipelago.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:47 No.6205330
    I'm Plasma. Doing other /tg/-related projects but I am not going to fag up this thread with them.

    Sage for not contributing.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:48 No.6205332
    We're in the bronze age...


    Wrong place dude.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:48 No.6205333
    If demons will be able to affect the mortal realm maybe we should make a Mortal Champion of one of our followers to combat them when the time comes?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:48 No.6205334
    o rly plasma?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:48 No.6205338
    >Bronze Age
    Which we're changing.
    But then again that stuff can wait 'til we've converted a lot more people.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:49 No.6205342
    You were doing this already, though on a limited scale.
    You don't need to worry about the Masters noticing something now, however.

    Conversions are happening everywhere, as your religion gives people comfort and stability in these unpredictable times. Witnessing the deeds of the Masters, nearly everyone seeks somebody to guide and protect them.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:49 No.6205345

    Ancient Greece was also in the Bronze Age, and they did pretty well with the arts and architecture and temples stuff.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:50 No.6205351
    >until current shitstorm ends

    I can see that taking some time
    This infinate demons problem might be a lengthy process to eliminate
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:51 No.6205364
    Assuming we're able to eliminate them.
    Would be nice for some yin/yang, give/take stuff honestly.
    Seconding Lindorms/robots.
    Maybe we could come up with something better than the armor thing for our warriors tho.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:53 No.6205378
    You could create them from mundane reptiles, much like you did with Otto.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:53 No.6205379
    Focus on raising the tech level of humans, make our alphabet the standard everywhere, have Shyla and Hagran bring a golden age hand in hand for the mortals, and lets send Glass golems to places that have high concentration of followers as protection/show how awesome we are.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:54 No.6205382
    sage the plasma thread
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:54 No.6205383

    Perhaps, one day, we might venture into the heart of the Abyss and find some way to destroy it at its source.

    For now, while we build our strength and explore our world, the best we can hope for is a holding action, defeating them as swiftly as they escape. As time goes by we will learn more about them, and become more effective at fighting them.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)17:54 No.6205386
    A simple and effective plan. You put it in motion.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:56 No.6205405
    As long as we could mutate those brains a bit.
    Reptile brains just screams Luciferbait.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:56 No.6205410
    Don't raise the tech level too fast. Remember, they just had their entire way of life shattered.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:56 No.6205413
    we could send empty golem shells to major villages.
    They can act as symbols of our power, and also defenders if the need arises.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)17:57 No.6205414
    Someone enlighten me, whats this fag's problem?

    Randomly mutate large lizards into benevolent dragonlike things that have our divine symbol burning on their foreheads?

    I like it.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:58 No.6205424
    plasma is the problem kill him
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:58 No.6205429
    This guy thinks that I am the person who made this thread.
    He's convinced I am pure evil because someone in one of my threads "stole the get".
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)17:59 No.6205436
    I like this, because it means we can keep the souls with us for now and only send them down when required
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:00 No.6205443

    And you're both sageing because?

    A bit of fast forward, if we can't think of anything more?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:00 No.6205446
    Well Proto-dragons more like it. Without wings and the like.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:00 No.6205450
    >Who is this Plasma person?

    Come to think of it, you're not sure how far can you change the nature of animals... You should test that before empowering them.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:01 No.6205455
    He's saging because he hates me and thinks I made the thread.
    I'm saging because I am not contributing.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:01 No.6205457
    Test run test run!

    Try to be gentle, if it turns into something horrible then put it out of its misery.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:01 No.6205460
    stop playing coy you bastard
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:02 No.6205466
    Plasma's a person who GMed another quest.
    He apparently thinks you're Plasma.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:02 No.6205469
    Ask for volunteers.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:03 No.6205477
    animals to volunteer?
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:03 No.6205483
    >Assumed it was done in >>6205307 - that's how you send your servants to the material plane.

    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:04 No.6205485
    We're practicing on animals.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:04 No.6205486
    Well we need to put a soul in it afterwards obviously.
    To see how it copes.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:04 No.6205491
    kill the pure evil
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:05 No.6205501

    Yeah, let's not inadvertently unleash empowered monsters upon the world without some careful testing.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:06 No.6205513
    At least the thread will last longer. Or something.

    Periodically enforce the quarantine around the Abysall wasteland, also make plans for secondary quarantine.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:06 No.6205518
    You try changing some lizards. You get them to cooperate with each other, change their diet and even use some primitive tools.
    It seems safe.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:07 No.6205525
    sage = take a post but wont bump, till auto sage kicks in

    and we steam to 250 posts

    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:07 No.6205528
    >Difference between dragons and lindorms
    Well.. uh... the use kinda varies. Sometimes they're used as if they're the same other times Lindorms are more "lucky/wise/protecting" iirc and less "Spirits of Greed". (like dragons are)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:08 No.6205536
    Further exploration on this path as well as how adding a followers soul to the mix will change it.
    Because dammit we are doing SCIENCE! here.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:08 No.6205537
    Sorted. Time for some more servants
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:08 No.6205540
    Y'chak appears to have left this world entirely, so there's not much you can do to him. Not that you're powerful enough.

    Done. For now, the wall of fire stops the demons.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:09 No.6205554
    one more down the tube
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:09 No.6205558

    How do they interact with humans? Let's not create a race that's going to try to conquer the world and usurp our human followers.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:10 No.6205564
    We need to start working on some kind of cell.
    For dissection and experimentation with those damn abyssals.
    Elder Sign beeeotch!
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:10 No.6205569
    You create your servants. They are thankful for your gift of intelligence and a superior physical form. They vow to serve you faithfully.
    Interesting... Their worship strengthens you as much as that of human followers.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:11 No.6205574
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:12 No.6205583

    Sweet, we just made a race of intelligent dragons!

    How's Andreus and the mages doing?

    Investigate how and where we draw our divine fire?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:12 No.6205584
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:13 No.6205603
    Add weapons and defences to the library as well as just servents. I'm seeing glass cannons (pun not intended) mounted atop the wall of fire to be operated my our golems capable of firing divine flame, that sort of thing.

    Also, look into repairs on the golems, particularily self-repair. Is is possible for them to use the Art or otherwise to fix damage done to them, and can we help them to do so faster?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:14 No.6205605
    Teach them to use our/humans language and to have a peaceful and prosperous relationship with humans.

    Teach the humans not to fear the new ones.

    Also a description of our new race should be well received.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:14 No.6205608
    >Protip: This'll continue after autosaging. Or we'll start a second thread. You might as well not waste your time.

    The lindorms consider them... cute? They are protective of them, certainly.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:15 No.6205625
    >Lindorms being a race in it's own right rather than follower souls.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:15 No.6205626
    I have nothing better to do, I dont have plans till tomorrow night and I have a full case of Mtn Dew,

    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:16 No.6205633

    Regenerating divine servants sounds right.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:19 No.6205667
    do they consider themselves superior?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:20 No.6205676
    Let's work on some fortifications both in the library and in the cities because dammit THE DEEP MASTERS ARE STILL OUT THERE.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:20 No.6205678
    Can we have a list of what's going on right now? It looks like we're multitasking thousands of things right now, it makes me dizzy to keep track of everything.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:21 No.6205683

    This is a good start. I think it'd be a good idea to establish a mutually beneficial relationship between humans and Lindorns - an integrated society, mutual interdependence, and so on. We don't want the humans viewing the Lindorms as a servant race, or the Lindorms viewing the humans as sheep to be ruled over, no matter how protective their intent.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:22 No.6205687
    Also on the training of 'Paladins/Protectors'.
    Because we're going to get so screwed without well trained warriors.
    And the architect thing. (Better infrastructure, buildings and roads)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:22 No.6205688
    >Well, descriptions vary. What do you want? Winged or not? Bipedal? Quadrupedal? Slithering on the ground?

    As the lindorms are calm and protective, rather than fierce and intimidating, they are quite welcome.

    They learn the human language quickly.

    Any Art wielder can repair the golems. Unfortunately, none of the golems themselves are capable of using it.

    Andreus and the mages are acting as leaders of your cult, especially since people are used to Art wielders being in charge. They put emphasis on not forcing anyone to do anything, though.

    This might be risky, as it may result in contamination of your realm. You need a different location for that...

    You investigate the source of your fire. Well, what do you know. An infinite plane of fire, brimstone, smoke and magma. You're beginning to notice a trend here... You're pretty sure you know where water, air and earth comes from.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:23 No.6205709
    Personally i'd prefer the Huge Serpents with white/green colors, but that's just me.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:24 No.6205717
    sage to the gates of autosage
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:25 No.6205719
    Oh god elementals, planes and all that other stuff.
    Let's keep away from other primes until we've conquered this one though. (if they exist ;))
    Can we investigate the source of our other portfolio powers? (Knowledge especially)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:25 No.6205725
    >Have fun, then. Oh, that reminds me, gotta get trolls in here somewhere. Other races too.

    >Being worked upon since the last thread, I believe.

    >I'm working on a "note every good idea, assume everything that's reasonable is being done" basis here.

    >Happening in the background.

    You make that clear to both races. They have no problems accepting this, for now at least.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:26 No.6205735
    So probably a demiplane not connected to ours then.
    We'll it'll have to wait.
    >Elemental Planes
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:27 No.6205744
    Elemental planes eh?

    Hmmm, the lindorms should have hands, and wings. Let them grow legs with time, like, when they grow to adulthood or something.

    I wonder if they could be used for some underwater combat....
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:27 No.6205746
    Your power over knowledge seems to be a direct result of your followers' belief. With fire, it seems that it's "more efficient" for reality to work that way.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:28 No.6205752
    >for now at least.
    Explore the way that our Mages get their powers from. (I don't think we've done this yet, have we?)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:28 No.6205757
    kill plasma and all things plasma related
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:29 No.6205772
    It appears parts of the terrain are... animated. Figures of fire, magma and smoke walking around. They do not seem to pursue any goals, though.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:30 No.6205779
    Try to strike up a conversation with one of them.
    Be courteous though, we don't want to piss off some elemental princes.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:30 No.6205781
    any intelligence within them?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:31 No.6205788

    Lizardmen, burly saurian types? About human-size or slightly larger. Dunno about wings, though, aerodynamics might be an issue with a human-size or larger creature unless they've got innate flying magic or something.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:32 No.6205791

    See if you can strike up a deal with them.

    You grant them sentience, and for a time they must serve you. After service, they're released back into the Fire Plane, keeping their sentience.

    Everyone wins?
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:33 No.6205800
    >No, you haven't.
    You begin to study magic itself. It seems to simply exist everywhere, in the material plane, your Realm and the elemental planes too. It's just power waiting to be used. And an infinite supply of it, too. Damn, the creators made sure nobody runs out of anything, didn't they?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:33 No.6205801
    Anything sentient?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:34 No.6205810
    sageing for sake of sagery
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:34 No.6205813


    Seriously though, we should work on being able to tap into that.

    Magical knowledge and ability is still knowledge, amirite?
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:35 No.6205818
    They seem to be sentient, if barely. You feel that if they were to leave this plane, they'd attempt to spread their element as much as possible.

    They do not perceive you in any way, it seems, and you cannot estabilish mental contact with them. You might need a body.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:35 No.6205821
    Funny how Nyarly is kind of like us but different. We teach them what they need to thrive, he however would teach people barely ready for fire how to harness nuclear energy. (I think there's even a story by Lovecraft on how he teaches Egyptians about Electricity?)
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:35 No.6205824
    And while we're at it, we should learn to somehow tap more into the Elemental Plane of Fire, since thats the closest to us and Hagran.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:36 No.6205835
    You are tapping into that, however, all beings can draw the power only so quickly. As you grow in strength, you'll be able to channel magic more quickly.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:36 No.6205836
    We should make sure NOTHING can claim a monopoly on it. Because fuck me it'd be dangerous if an Abyssal entity would go all "Spellweave/Mystra". I wonder if claiming Magic as part of our portfolio would be a good idea?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:38 No.6205849
    >Body for our god.
    Important guys, let's choose something that we'd like others to see us as. It might after all stick. And might be good not to have to have multiple different forms for different species. (if we're going to be in contact with them again)
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:39 No.6205854
    Ancient greeks know very much about electricity thank you very much. There were even batteries around them.
    One greek guy even made a steam engine. Now, remember how long it took to reinvent it, and that it sparked the Industrial Revolution.

    Lets leave this wildcard alone for now.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:39 No.6205855
    >Forgotten Realms
    >Who the hell do you think I am?!

    You sense something probing you, analyzing...

    You realize that magic has taken its turn to try and understand you.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:39 No.6205860
    >egyptians about electricity
    Actually I think it was just some "horrible tech advances" or something. But the story was based on Lovecraft's own horror at Nikola Tesla's electricity shows.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:39 No.6205862
    sagery rhymes with jeffery
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:39 No.6205863

    Would it be possible to slowly draw in magical power into one big reserve pool to use all at once?

    Failing that, could we continuous siphon as much as possible and just infuse our quarantine walls with magical defensive force constantly? We don't want those abyssal fuckers getting out anytime soon.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:39 No.6205866
    Greet it.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:40 No.6205870
    Well, your followers include the people from Zhuang's and Ligish's islands already. They're not much different from other humans, though.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:40 No.6205871
    Oh god, sentient magic ahoy.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:40 No.6205873
    Oh wow, inb4 god of magic. Lets open ourself to it!
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:41 No.6205878
    >Elves and Dwarves
    For those not in the know.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:42 No.6205886
    You didn't find a way to store magic externally yet. You are yet to reach your limit on accumulating it within you, though.

    You greet it. You receive a sensation of curiosity.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:42 No.6205890
    Explain what we are and ask it what it is. (as best as we can if it only communicates through vague telepathy)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:43 No.6205901
    sageaholic is like alchaholic
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:44 No.6205908
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:46 No.6205917
    Your explanation is well-received. In return, you are flooded with concepts, all adding up to the idea of a great Serpent spreading its intangible body through the whole multiverse.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:47 No.6205923
    oh ho! I suggest we fish it up and cut off its head.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:47 No.6205926
    World Serpent?
    Or maybe....
    The Serpent Vecna's vision of Magic?
    Or even better your own deal on Magic? :D
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:48 No.6205931
    >This was supposed to be a reference to Vecna's teachings rather than Jormungandr, but I suppose that one fits too.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:48 No.6205935
    Try requesting its aid with our little problem, or at least inform it of our intentions for a more deep bond.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:48 No.6205940
    Explain our purpose as well as we can. (Guiding humanity to what we believe is optimal, acquiring faith etc)
    Ask it for it's purpose.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:49 No.6205949
    >Vecna's Serpent. Also, Races of Dragon suggests magic is sentient, as it supposedly created the spellscales to keep it company.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:50 No.6205956
    For those of us not in the know...
    How did Vecna see magic as and if they interacted with each other what was the Serpent like?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:50 No.6205958
    sage to auto
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:51 No.6205961
    It is amused. It has been here since the creation of the multiverse and its purpose will never change: it is a tool for whoever is willing to wield it to change reality as he sees fit. It cares not about how it is used.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:51 No.6205965

    Does this seem to be positive in tone? Like a good-result expansion on the Serpent's part, bringing life/wisdom/complexity to the universe, or more like a vast devouring thing?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:52 No.6205975
    Ask it if it knows anything about Nyarly.
    Or scratch that, ask it about the Multiverse. Then after a few more questions [add in some guys] about Nyarly.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)18:54 No.6205986
    Ask it if it could teach us how to better use the powers it offers.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:54 No.6205993
    Its perception of reality is far different from your own. It cannot provide you with any useful knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:56 No.6206012
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)18:59 No.6206032
    That is about the only thing it can teach you. You are flooded with knowledge and soon your mastery of the Art improves greatly.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)18:59 No.6206033
    Go, "alright nice to notice your existence." then go off and work on that other stuff.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:01 No.6206044
    can we add it to our friendlist?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:02 No.6206058

    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:02 No.6206060
    Teach our mages about the Art.
    Do not mention the Serpent. (that shit will eat faith like no ones business.)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:03 No.6206066

    Awesome. Pass on relevant and useful knowledge to our Art-using followers, then. Focussing on stuff they can use to make life better for the islanders.

    Also, examine how the Art interacts with the demons, if possible - are they particularly vulnerable or resistant to it? Do they use the Art themselves? What countermeasures to hostile use of the Art do we have at our disposal?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:03 No.6206069
    Ask if it has any questions, or if it heard the joke about the otter and the cosmic horror, or something.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:03 No.6206073
    Very well.
    It seems rather unconcerned with, well, everything. You doubt it'd do something for you.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:04 No.6206088
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:06 No.6206107
    You pass the newfound knowledge of the Art to your followers. Many of them find themselves capable of using Art, though in a very limited form - requiring much rest and meditation to channel magic and bind it into prepared forms. The talented mages, on the other hand, grow in power considerably as they are now able to channel magic much faster.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:07 No.6206114
    It does not have any questions and it doesn't understand the idea of "jokes".
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:08 No.6206123
    have Hagran start production of 1000 glass golems
    we wont be able to use them right away but keeping aome on hand incase theres a plauge or something would be nice
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:08 No.6206128
    oh yeah, I heard that one

    the punchline was infinite demons were formed in the divine plane
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:08 No.6206131
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:09 No.6206138
    So... uh... why the sage?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:10 No.6206144
    Shame, the punchline really IS epic.

    We just turned awesome.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:10 No.6206146
    It will be done.

    >He believes I'm someone that he's angry with for some reason.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:11 No.6206158
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:12 No.6206168

    In any case, we really should have a wife. I mean, how do we explain where the hell Hagran came from?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:12 No.6206169
    I hope we didn't give our Lindorms any reproductive capabilities.
    If we didn't then maybe we should teach them the Art? If they can learn it anyhow.
    (if we did add reproduction then we'd be up in magic using lizards in no time and that'd be frickin' scary)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:13 No.6206173

    and because I am bored
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:13 No.6206178

    As part of our doctrine, I think it'd be good to ensure that one of the central tenets is that of the virtue and righteousness of cooperation and collective advancement - the most righteous man is not the one who hoards knowledge to selfishly advance his own agenda, but the one who shares knowledge for the betterment of all.

    As such, hopefully there'll be a cultural tendency for society to praise and reward those who discover or invent things that are particularly beneficial and helpful to those around them, thus actively encouraging scientific and technological development.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:15 No.6206194
    Like an Amoeba. :)

    Since we're the god of knowledge (and not lies) we should totally have the Serpent as the symbol for Magic.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:16 No.6206203

    "He willed him born and so he was. For the will of Hyperion is the truth."
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:17 No.6206221
    They can reproduce, but the changes you made to them are not hereditary - their offspring will be simple lizards or whatever reptiles you used as the base.
    >Can I have a decision on how they look? Got one vote for "Huge Serpents", one for "hands, and wings. Let them grow legs with time" and one for "Lizardmen".
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:19 No.6206239
    Man, we don't have a penis anyway.
    We don't need women, we need currency. Hmm...

    These, although I don't see whats wrong with our newly created race reproducing or using magic.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:20 No.6206244
    Huge serpents.
    Not fond of dragons.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:20 No.6206245
    Why not just make them look like lindorms.

    Serpents with two legs and wings.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:20 No.6206246
    they surely need to be able to reproduce or something. Having them die after one generation isn't good...
    Immortality maybe?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:21 No.6206252
    Well if they're linnorms they're probably insanely long lived.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:22 No.6206263
    This varied by tale though. Some where full blown dragons and some where huge serpents.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:23 No.6206273
    Huge serpent.
    teach them the art.
    Have the Serpent as our symbol for magic.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:23 No.6206278
    like komodo dragons that have bipedal capabilities and 3 fingers as adults and like dodongoes from legend of zelda with 2 arms hands for limbs instead of 2 legs

    also as they are creations of the god of fire they should have chemical sacks in their throats that let adults spit fire
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:24 No.6206288

    Making a race that's intelligent enough to use tools but lacks dextrous manipulatory appendages is particularly unkind.

    Maybe have them progress through forms as they grow and age? Start out as wings-and-arms Lindorms, then (winged?) lizardmen, then dragons proper.

    What would it take to make the changes hereditary? Or maybe set things up so that there are specially designated holy nesting sites where the Lindorms can lay their eggs, and we will bless their offspring with intelligence and the superior form.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:25 No.6206299
    You teach lindorms the basics of Art. They seem to have a natural capacity for it, perhaps due to their reptilian nature?

    You emphasize this in your teachings. It is well-received in your community.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:26 No.6206304

    Let's have them slowly develop from regular lizards into lizardmen into full linnorms (two legs, wings)...However, we need to jumpstart the transformation process.

    It'll help us keep an active hand in their lives, you know? Plus, we'll have direct population control, in case they get nasty?

    I want to have some non-standard races, instead of the usual orc/elf/dragon/dwarf thing.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:26 No.6206307
    forgot to add as juoveniles to the first paragraph
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:27 No.6206320

    I like this better, start as linnorms, then lizardmen, then dragons, but we have to bless the eggs, otherwise just regular lizards.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:27 No.6206326
    >not tool users
    Making them dependent on the humans.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:28 No.6206335
    Huge serpents.
    The art can handle the everyday stuff for them.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:29 No.6206342
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:29 No.6206344
    You're not sure whether you wish to make the changes hereditary, or whether you can do it, for that matter. The "designated nests" idea seems much safer and easier.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:29 No.6206349

    And eventually resentful of a creator that would make them thus.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:30 No.6206358
    Then the nests shall it be!
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:31 No.6206361
    "Generally, the word lindworm stood for the Latin word draco (whence Norse dreki), thus could refer to any draconic creature, from a real life constrictor snake to a legendary dragon. In European mythology and folklore, creatures identified as a 'lindworm' may be winged or wingless, plus quadrapedal, bipedal or limbless. However late persistent tradition designates the lindworm as having no limbs, or just front claws (so that it must slither) in contrast to wyverns that have only hind-quarters (and possible claws on the end of its wings) and in contrast to dragons which have four limbs in addition to its wings."
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:31 No.6206367

    Can they swim?

    We might need amphibious footsoldiers in the future. I doubt the Masters are relaxing and maxin' all cool, now that they know things are afoot.

    Maybe Otto would like to come forward and sponsor his people? :D
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:32 No.6206371
    This is hilarious:
    The belief in the reality of a lindorm, a giant limbless serpent, persisted well into the 19th century in some parts. The Swedish folklorist Gunnar Olof Hyltén-Cavallius collected in the mid 19th century stories of legendary creatures in Sweden. He met several people in Småland, Sweden that said they had encountered giant snakes, sometimes equipped with a long mane. He gathered around 50 eyewitness reports, and in 1884 he set up a big reward for a captured specimen, dead or alive. Hyltén-Cavallius was ridiculed by Swedish scholars, and since nobody ever managed to claim the reward, it resulted in a cryptozoological defeat. Rumours about lindworms as actual animals in Småland rapidly died out (Sjögren, 1980).
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:33 No.6206384
    >I imagine the wings would interfere with their swimming capabilities, should the lindorms have them.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:34 No.6206388
    Huge, maned serpents with short limbs and claws.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:35 No.6206403
    Yes. I can already see it...

    "Dum-de-dum, stupid god can't do shit since we're underwat- OH SHI-"

    "Nom nom nom sushi"
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:39 No.6206434
    Out of curiosity, approximately how much time has passed since we first contacted Plato? Weeks? Months? Years? Should we be concerned about our named-character followers getting old and decrepit?

    Also, once we've consolidated ourselves on these islands, I'd be interested in expanding our knowledge of the outside world - mapping the islands, both local and further afield; gathering knowledge from sailors, traders and explorers about other lands; expanding our sphere of trade and thus influence; maybe dispatching exploratory missions, each taking some token which will allow us to travel with them and see what they see.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:40 No.6206446
    >There was one timeskip that took a few years, after that it might have all been another year. No risk of that yet.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:40 No.6206452
    This, and also try checking out the Planes that we know of.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:40 No.6206455

    Well, if the lindorms aren't up to speed on the current situation, then fill them in.

    Additionally, ask them to set up colonies on the nearby islands, and ask them carry messages between human villages when possible. Now that we have the Linnorm Air Forces we better put them to use, yeah?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:41 No.6206466
    This a thousand times.
    Also I wonder how our named friends fare.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:42 No.6206473
    Against giving them wings due to the nature of our enemies being aquatic.

    Do this.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:45 No.6206500
    >That's the thing: do they have wings or not? I don't really see a consensus regarding their form.

    You begin gathering information. However, since the Abyss-forming incident, trade between the islands who took part in it and the ones which remained oblivious has stopped, most probably on the Masters' orders.

    You indeed discover planes filled with air, water and earth. There seem to be similar elemental creatures on all of them.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:46 No.6206508
    sage sage sage
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:47 No.6206527
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:47 No.6206533

    Give them wings that can be used as fins under water and let them fly in the sky.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:47 No.6206535

    Alright, everyone vote on wings.

    I vote yes on wings, since having air transport would be clutch right now. We can always create sentient otterpeople later.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:48 No.6206542

    So the low-grade Art-users - is this the equivalent of cantrips and such? Hedge magic? Minor healings, divinations and good luck charms?

    Also, what's the situation with regard to enchanting items? Are our more talented followers able to imbue objects with the Art on their own? Is there some way to make this process easier for them?

    I am thinking in the general direction of working towards a kind of industrial revolution that combines technology and the Art, with minor life-improving enchanted items being more-or-less ubiquitous. F'rexample, enchanted hearthstones that flicker with magical fire on command, growing hot enough to warm a house and cook food without need for fuel. Likewise lanterns and lightsources, boxes or charms that preserve foodstuff from decay, maybe enchanted rocks that, when placed around a field, will encourage the bountiful growth of crops within the bounded area.

    If we can make our people successful and prosperous by teaching them such things, non-believers will hear about it and flock to us. Provided we make it clear that we are also strong enough to defend what is ours, we should see a pretty steady stream of people wanting to join up.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:48 No.6206543
    do the slithering huge serpent types.
    claws or whatever, better to have someone who can follow those aboleths when they try to flee.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:48 No.6206548

    Hmmm... how close we are to ballons or copters, or any other flying vehicles. Also can we bind elementals into items, or use their power to propel stuff? (Oh gee how original...)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:48 No.6206552
    Alright, I guess we're going to be making an invasion force. Start preparations for a navy and marine regiment.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:49 No.6206559
    Slithering serpents can still travel between islands guys.
    And DIVE too.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:49 No.6206562
    Plato has become the governor of of his island.
    Andreus has turned out to possess significant talent for magic, and he is approaching Tymon in terms of power now, even without your assistance.
    Talos is an almost legendary craftsman, overseeing all of your projects and taking part in most of them personally.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:50 No.6206574
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:51 No.6206588

    I vote yes to wings - though perhaps they could be wingless in the first and second stages (worm and lizardman), and then be given the option to choose when they reach the age at which they'd advance to the next form? A choice between wings, for those who'd like to soar among the clouds, and powerful fins, for those who'd rather delve the oceans.

    Keep it flexible, yo.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:51 No.6206594
    sage like your mother sucks
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:52 No.6206605
    >Not actually all that familiar with Eberron, I know they bind elementals for stuff, but don't recall any details.

    You are capable of designing a flying machine, and if it's partially powered by magic, your followers should be able to construct it.
    >As opposed to pure technology DaVinci-style machines.

    >Wingless it is. What about the limbs again? Only forelimbs?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:52 No.6206606
    Could we raise land from the sea? (and connect some islands)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:53 No.6206615
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:53 No.6206617
    Only forelimbs.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:54 No.6206625
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:54 No.6206626
    forelimbs as adolecents 4 limbs as adults
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:54 No.6206633

    First stage: Serpentine with forelimbs.

    Second stage: Lizardman.

    Third stage: Bigger lizardman with wings or fins.

    Fourth stage: Sinuous oriental-style dragon or sea serpent. Huge and tough either way.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:55 No.6206637
    You could channel massive amounts of earth from the elemental plane. Are you sure you want to do this, though? It'll raise the water level.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:55 No.6206641
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    Guys, have we killed any demons inside the firewall yet?

    we need to before this happens
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:55 No.6206643
    Stage 1 and 4 only.
    Against having another up and walking race.
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:56 No.6206644
    I wanted to give them hands for one.

    Magic powered DaVinci-style machines. In concept like pure SCIENCE, just better with magic, higher quality, etc.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:56 No.6206649
    Don't then, we don't want to flood any islands.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:56 No.6206652

    The alternative is to channel fuckhuge amounts of seawater away into the elemental plane. :D
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:57 No.6206659
    Forelimbs only (so they'll slither)
    Claws so they can use tools.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:57 No.6206665
    >And the thread keeps on going. What was the point again?

    >Having multiple stages is the preferred option, I think. All in favour of this?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:57 No.6206666
    >Channel Earth
    >Drain Water
    Better wait 'til we can do both and maybe until we've handled the Aboleth scourge.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:58 No.6206677
    Minus the Lizardmen stages?
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)19:58 No.6206681
    >There's an infinite amount of water on one side and a finite one on the other. Care to guess which way it'll tend to flow?
    >> Blackheart 10/09/09(Fri)19:58 No.6206682
    How do you add water to unlimited water?

    Also 2am guys, I'm gonna go bed now.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:58 No.6206685
    im goin yes on multiple stages
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:59 No.6206694

    Aye, all stages.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)19:59 No.6206696
    No lizardmen
    otherwise yes.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:00 No.6206705
    New thread?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:01 No.6206711
    We don't need another bipedal race.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)20:02 No.6206727
    >Nah, going to bed soon. "Two hours of sleep" doesn't work. Let's just decide on the lindorms.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:03 No.6206736
    Stage 1 and 4 only.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:06 No.6206782

    Agreed on the condition that both stages have forelimbs that are dextrous and can use tools.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:06 No.6206789
    All stages, let the lindworms themselves decide which form they prefer.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)20:09 No.6206816
    >Assuming >>6206685 is for all the stages, we have a draw by my count.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:11 No.6206830
    Stage 1 and 4 only, with forelimbs + claws.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:12 No.6206845


    Freedom to choose is good. Having a variety of options is also good.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:12 No.6206848
    No lizardmen, had enough of them. (fucking Risen and it's fucking difficulty level)
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:13 No.6206857
    Slithering dragons of aquatic and flying type.
    No lizardmen. (no scaly furry bait here)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)20:14 No.6206868
    >And that tips the balance to "no humanoid form".
    >Anything else we might cover on a short notice? Or are we done for today?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:15 No.6206878
    Can I suggest we build some celestial onagers to fling an endless amount of flaming rain onto the demons?

    because I think we should do that.
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:16 No.6206887

    Done for now, I think.

    When's the next session likely to be?
    >> Anonymous 10/09/09(Fri)20:17 No.6206896
    Serpent as our symbol for magic.
    Try out summoning some elementals (in a safe place if they break free obviously)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/09/09(Fri)20:20 No.6206949
    Yes, you can create such devices. You proceed to do so.

    >That's going to take more time, since you'll probably interact with the elemental quite a bit.

    >Tomorrow, same time, I think. Let's see how long I can keep this schedule up.

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