Definitely pursue a conversion of the guards, hardened fighters plus trainers for the more militia style people.

>>6191005
Converting the Art wielders should be a higher priority, though. With their authority on your side, the guards will be easily convinced.

>>6191025
Im sorry for not specifying, converting the guards should not be the only or even primary concern at this moment, just that it is a very good idea. I was assuming multiple actions at the same time.

Fuck yeah deity quest!

I vote get a more large-scale conversion going so when it happens it's basically a unstoppable landslide, if you know what I mean?

We could get a few islands on our side, but what's to say they don't have superior forces around to just squat our rebellion before it even really began?

Also, we're not per se the god of war. Better bloodless coercion than bloodshed.

Finally, we need to get around creating a wife for Hagran. She'd be the Goddess of Fertility, Healing and Nature.

Or am I just a faggot?

>>6191025
Yes, continue getting Zhuang and Ligish over on our side. There were two more guys right? Maybe see how susceptible the less powerful of them would be? Or is that a bad idea?

>As per the post in the last thread.
For some time now you have been performing small miracles for both of the Art wielders. You help them find misplaced items and remember things that slipped their minds. Eventually, they notice that something odd is happening. Zhuang mentions it in a talk with Andreus. "Say, did you... how to say it... use the Art to help me out during the past few days? Someone did, that much I'm sure of." How should Andreus react?

>>6191135
Saying something, not specifically in relating to a deity, but suggesting that he should ask in a general way "What are you and how are you helping me?"

>>6191104
The less powerful one, Galen, is an apprentice to the other. It would be hard to influence him without his teacher noticing it.
>>6191088
Deciding that it is time to take action, you have Plato and Talos send missionaries to other villages.

>>6191160
For a start, Andreus tells Zhuang that it's not his doing. He then references a conversation they were having some time ago, the one about beings other than humans and the Masters' servants existing, vaguely suggesting that this could be the source of this activity. Zhuang gives this hypothesis some thought. "Well, there'd be no reason for a servant of the Masters to hide. So I guess that's the only possibility. I wonder why it does that, though..."

>>6191135
Maybe we should have him "feign" innocence? So as to have Zhuang ponder the existence of outside powers he does not yet understand.

>>6191223
>Went ahead and did that.

Is Otto a major character yet?

He could become a God even.

Fuck this is brilliant! Otto, the Otter God of Mystery, Subterfuge and Water. Who's with me?

"Perhaps you should try asking it?"
Andreus mentally apologizes for speaking of you in such an undignified way, but it's the safest route to converting Zhuang.
"Wouldn't hurt, I guess. Who are you? Why are you helping me in such a manner?"
Zhuang falls silent, expecting some sort of answer. You now have an opportunity to make contact with him.

I think we need to know more about the world as a whole. Is there any major powers that have any major army that could threaten us? Stuff like that.

>>6191270
Initiate contact, its the only way to be sure.

>>6191265
For now, Otto travels with the missionaries, acting as a living proof of your power and one of your prophets. You occasionally speak and perform miracles through it.

>>6191283
>The major power in this world are the Masters, who are unfortunately shielded from your powers somehow. They have already deemed you a threat, but you mislead them regarding your whereabouts.
>>6191286
What do you wish to tell him?

>>6191270
I AM THE KNOWER OF SECRETS, THE HAND THAT SHIELDS AND THE FIRE THAT ILLUMINATES.

WHO, PRAY TELL, ARE YOU?

>>6191324
Okay, but do they have any sort of army that could just crash our party at any time? Or is it just the arts users?

>>6191337
Have you paid attention to any of these threads?

>>6191343
all except the first

I'm pretty sure nothing of this has been mentioned. I could be wrong though.

>>6191337
You heard that they have servants, ones that contact human Art wielders. Your attempts to gather more information ended... not as planned.
>>6191330
>WHO, PRAY TELL, ARE YOU?
>So you first help someone and then find out who he is? Using the first part, though.
Like all humans, Zhuang is stunned by your words at first. He does manage to get himself together in exceptionally short time, though.
"What do you want of me?"

I hath returned!
Glory shall be ours.

Reality, please update me on the Soul/Consciousness generator thing, did we find out more about its functions, capability?

A question: I vaguely remember that it was stated that soulstuff strengthens being that are imbued with it. Is there an upper limit to it or can we exalt living creatures, or is this the basic way we imbue our followers?

What happens if we pour soulstuff into a dead body? As in massive quantities.

The Abhole- I mean the masters, do we know if they can personally leave the water in any way?

>>6191385
"Aid, join us if freeing the islands of the tyrants *flash of the Master's very antisocial speech". In turn, we the giver of knowledge, shall grant you ever greater mastery over the Art!"

>>6191385
I was trying to be humble, letting him introduce himself.

I find it somewhat imposing when someone doesn't even ask, suggesting they know everything about me already, while I know nothing of them.

Especially when it's a voice in my head. Not that it's a big deal, do go on.

>>6191407
Woah, that's very sudden. I vote against this!

Well, if I remember correctly the smack the Masters said about humans (as in lesser slaves) I think it could work.

>>6191389
If they're anything like their inspirations, they get extremely vulnerable when they do.

Not that that means that is the case here. Also, I don't think there's any way we can know that yet.

>>6191437
We've only just introduced ourselves. He's no reason to trust us and we just go trashing the guys that basically fathom his world-belief.

Let's take is slow and easy here slugger.

>>6191389
>Soul generator
>Let me check, though I seem to recall you had to focus on something else and then forgot about it.

>soulstuff
This is a primary method of healing, though you suspect imbuing a living creature with too much soul-stuff would end up badly. The source was a white void, not a paradise filled with life, after all.

>imbuing dead bodies
If you also returned the soul to it, it could quite possibly result in raising the dead. You have concerns that such a process might damage the soul in a subtler way, though.
>As in, no infinite resurrections.

>It's spelled aboleths.
You don't have any knowledge regarding their land-travelling capabilities. Maybe they need the servants to oversee dry land, maybe they just prefer to stay in the water.

>>6191451
I am planning such utter dickery that it could rend the very heavens, sadly we need massive amounts of power for what I have in mind.

A hint: we get metal, and fuck over a lot of Masters at the same time, and extra land mass.

>If you also returned the soul to it, it could quite possibly result in raising the dead. You have concerns that such a process might damage the soul in a subtler way, though.

I say we are against this on a principal basis. Damaging souls seems evilish and a god got to have morals.

>>6191407
That's a bit sudden. He might not believe you yet. You should prove your good intentions first and denounce the Masters later.

As an aside, considering the situation: the users of the Art who serve the Masters haven't had direct contact with these unpleasant creatures, instead receiving their instructions and gathering tribute to leave on the shoreline.

I'd be interested to know what need the Masters have for tributes of food.

Also, given that the Masters are pretty freaky mind-reading fish-things that live in the lightless depths, I would imagine that setting ourselves up as Patron God of Humans to resist the Horrible Slimy Enemy In The Deep would work pretty well for us.

>>6191481
>An asteroid? I was thinking about mentioning such a possibility, but you don't know anything about outer space yet.

>>6191506
Hmmm... very well.

"I am the God of Knowledge, patron of the Art, embrace me in your heart and in turn no secret shall be unknown to you, and your powers shall grow ever greater."

Or something along these lines.

>>6191523
It might be a subtle way to keep humans from overpopulating (subtler than killing them directly, that is).
Or maybe they consider some food from the surface a delicacy?
You didn't ask them when you had the chance, unfortunately.

>>6191524
Asteroids are cliche. Let our smith son use the very world as his anvil and raise the very sea floor with a few hearty blows of his divine might.

Land, metal, Master's city, dead Masters, utter awesome.

Down side that we're so very far away from the power needed for something crazy like this.

>>6191481

If it's an asteroid, also consider that massive tsunamis would scour the islands clean of human civilisation.

>>6191559
>Ooh, nice. The "rend the heavens" part mislead me.

To Zhuang: MY WANT IS GREAT. HOWEVER, OF YOU I DEMAND NOTHING. NOR DO I FROM NO ONE, AS I AM NO ONES MASTER, NOR IS ANYONE MY SLAVE.

I AM, HOWEVER, INQUISITIVE. I'VE SIMPLY BEEN STUDYING YOU IN THE PURSUIT OF GENERAL KNOWLEDGE. I HOPE YOUR HONOR HAS NOT BEEN SULLIED BY THIS, AS I HAVE LEARNED YOU ARE A CREATURE OF HONOR.

Also, we should observe the force that sucks away ambient soulstuff after death, I wonder where it goes.

(Other divine device? Void of nothing?)

I am trying to think of a way to profit from the death/rebirth cycle, and to gain control over it.

>>6191578

I'd like to veto this approach.

While we don't want to appear as an oppressive tyrant-god, we need the belief and loyalty of human followers to increase our power and influence.

We welcome those who choose to serve us, but do not compel it - instead, we trust that the beacon-fire of our benevolent wisdom will serve to attract those most in need of our protection.

As people gather around fire for the warmth and protection it offers, let them come to us, and we will illuminate them.

"I am knowledge, in it's most pure form. You are a good being, of pure heart, and a desire to learn, and I have come to your aid. Enjoy my gifts, and use them as you see fit."

Give him the true knowledge of the masters.

We, somehwhat, know what values Zhuang adhere to, but what of Ligish, what do we know of him?

My point is Hagran is a perfect match as a god for Zhuang. And we have held up creating a new god for some time now. Maybe we can create one that Ligrish would be more likely to follow?

Also, that god needs to be a goddess and be hagran's wife. Smiths need a wife, it's basic fantasy trope law.

>>6191578
>I AM A CREATURE OF CAPS-LOCK.
>Yeah, yeah, I know, sounding impressive and all that.
Zhuang is intrigued. "I... I would wish to learn more about you, if such a request does not insult you."

>>6191615
A busty wife.

>>6191614
Again, denouncing the Masters should wait until he trusts you. As for what you told him, let's assume some mix of >>6191578 and >>6191614 .

Did I hear something about a busty goddess wife for Hagran?

>>6191619
I was more thinking of how Death talks in Discworld novels. It's not really caps lock, since there's still a size difference between first and following letters. All are simply in upper-case mode.

And I don't know how to replicate that sadly.

>>6191619
Update on what Otto left at the beach for the guards to find?

>>6191654
THE GODDESS OF BUSTS

BUSTS FOR EVERYONE

>>6191615
We should avoid creating new gods for every second mortal that comes in our way.

I do remember someone planing a Rideresque looking wife for our son. If we figure out a !useful! chore for her, I'm not opposed. What would fit a smith, aside from greek/roman example of Love?

>>6191619
"Such a request speaks volumes of your wisdom and pleases us! For learning is what we are, what we live for, learning and teaching all the hidden secrets of the world."

>>6191615
His loyalty to the Masters is a prominent feature of his character, but its source is the fact that he truly believes they seek to protect humans. A deity capable of protecting and guiding their followers would appeal to him greatly. In short, you.

As a point of curiosity, who appoints the captain of the guard? The Masters directly? Their immediate servants? Or the Art-users, picking suitably obedient muscly types from among the populace?

What secures their loyalty? Preferential treatment? Access to more food and booze and comely wenches than the plebs? Masterly mind-control?

Are they drawn from the local population, or brought in from abroad? Do they integrate with the locals, taking wives from the islanders, or are they aloof and apart?

>>6191619
LEARNING LEADS TO KNOWLEDGE AND KNOWLEDGE IS INHERENTLY GOOD. YOU ARE WISE TO ASK.

HOWEVER, I AM WHAT I AM. WHAT, MORE SPECIFICALLY, WOULD YOU WANT TO KNOW?

>>6191682
You begin to teach him of your doctrine. You do not mention the Masters, instead focusing on how you seek the well-being of humans. He soon accepts you as a benevolent force, one that should be supported, not opposed. Now is finally the time to show him the true nature of the Masters.

>>6191684
This, plus what we know about the masters, if we can convince them it's true, should sway him enough.

I vote we create the busty wife for Hagran. Call her Shyla, obviously. Goddess of fertility, birth, medicine, and lust.

>>6191721
First have Andreus himself teach him that we are a God. And then show him the truth of the masters. But he must not act against them yet, for our forces of truth and life and humanity are still weak.

>>6191723
Pic related.

>>6191721
Vaguely mention the danger the Masters represent, and show him flashbacks of our meeting with them.

>>6191700

Good questions.

>>6191682

I would suggest that Hagran/Haphaestus' wife should complement his own portfolio and dual nature as warrior/wright. Something like one aspect as goddess of agriculture and farming and the arts of making things grow bountifully to complement Haphaestus the smith (the knowledge to grow crops and the tools to harvest them), and another aspect as goddess of healing, midwifery and nurturing to complement Hagran the warrior (tending the wounds of the warriors, bringing new life into the world).

>>6191752
I vote for a more Shyla Stylez, stacked pornstar look. :D

>>6191752
Reality what of the piece of building that otto left on the beach for the guards to find?

Also source?

>>6191758
Something akin to that would be good. But she's gotta be stacked as fuck!

>>6191700
It is commonly believed that the captain of the guard is appointed by the Masters themselves, whose decision is relayed by their servants and the Art wielders.
Reality is more complicated, as the Masters probably don't bother with every single island in such detail, and the mages most probably have their own agenda in occasionally "misinterpreting" their will.

The guards are chosen FOR their loyalty to the masters, not the other way around. Or, to put it another way, high susceptibility to brainwashing. The ones drawn from the local population tend to socialize, while the ones from abroad remain distant.

Also, I vaguely remember that some of the Art users are sent out to hunt/convert rogue would-be sorcerer kings. Lets say we send one of our future (or not so future) Art users out to do battle, but instead of DEATH OR MASTERS, we go Knowledge and prosperity or mindwash.

Also, while we are a semi-light side force, we should learn some mind control / domination. Should we be unable to make them see reason.

>>6191682
Some of us have long talked about a pantheon of gods. It might bring trouble, but the sheer awesomeness would be well worth it. That lies in the future however, but it's a gradual process and we need to start somewhere.
More gods of different aspects bring higher likelyhood of differently natured people appealing to one of them, which gives us power.
We've been talking about another god for long now, it's as good a time as any.
Finally, as to what would define this goddess, see >>6191088

>>6191777

But of course.

She is the fertile field that Hagran ploughs, if you get my meaning.

Vast... tracts of land.

>mind control / domination. Should we be unable to make them see reason.
I, and I think a few others, are already of the opinion that we are not an oppressive god. If someone does not want to follow us, that is fine. We only want to spread the fire that is knowledge.

>>6191088
Yeah, what this guy said.

Shyla, Goddess of Fertility, Healing and Nature. Wife of Hagran.

>>6191787

We can't look into their minds at all, can we?

I am curious as to whether Master brainwashing is a one-time "imprint" whereby the guards are brainwashed and sent to fulfil their programming, or if it's more like the Masters maintaining an ongoing link or presence or influence over the guards.

Basically, if there's any way to either reverse the imprinting, or block the Masters' influence.

>>6191831
I oppose names inspired or taken from the real world.

But then again I was the guy who suggested the name Hagran in the first place so I'll gracefully stay my tongue here. Only were someone to suggest a more fantasy-ish name not apparently inspired from the real world, I would vote for it.

So if we've got Zhuang on our side, let's have him and Andreus double team Ligrish. We've been giving him the same small miracles. He should be curious.

>>6191758
>Very well, time to expand the divine family.
>This concept seems most fitting and well-developed. Does anyone have any other ideas and/or objections?
>>6191740
You show him what you saw in the depths of the ocean, focusing on the attitude of the Masters towards humanity.
He is visibly shaken. "I... I have to think over... The things you have shown me..."

>>6191830
Yes well, I didn't say on everyone, but if we convert a lot of sorcerers and such, and we face a race of psyker fishes, some mental powers should be useful.

>>6191831
So be it, but we should find a champion for her first. Some mother figure of one of the villages.

But also people, remember, we have like 30 followers, I wanted to propose waiting with more gods till we crawl our way into that great city that was mentioned.

>>6191845
Judging by how you influenced Zhuang, it's a one-time effect which can be reversed.

>>6191865
Shyla, Goddess of Fertility, Healing and Nature. Wife of Hagran.

And lets start work on Ligrish.

How are things going in the other villages? Developments? Have the missionaries they've sent reached any other towns?

Any exiles sent to sea?

>>6191865
"So be it child, but know that our Divine Flame shall aid and protect you, should you wish to embrace it."

We should introduce Zhuang to Hagran and the other way around. My common sense is tingling and it tells me they are a perfect fucking match.

Dammit what about the piece of the building that otto took and left on the beach?!

Anyone come up with another name for the goddess? Anyone? Please?

>>6191908
I think Hagran is busy with... uh... getting acquainted with his new wife.

>>6191768
It has been discovered by some guards, but dismissed as "some weird-looking rock".

>>6191866
Plato's wife, Agape?

How much Cool Stuff can users of the Art do? Like, can we have examples of what the Art-users do around the place, and how far their powers extend?

My main concern is that humanity is scattered across an archipelago of islands - that is, pockets of land that is Our Turf separated swathes of Their Turf, which could prove deeply problematic if it comes to all-out war between Humans and Masters, as they can potentially divide-and-conquer any nascent human empire with ease, granting safe passage to their human minions while sinking our boats.

My point is: can the Art give us a means of transport between islands that avoids the water?

>>6191940
Inspire Plato to go there and discover it. Let him study it on his own.

>>6191940
Agape should be fine I guess, fits with Plato's divine teaching.

>>6191948
Hmmm... yes, a general outlining of the Art should be useful.
>>6191948

>>6191916
>Drawing a blank, sorry.

>>6191948
Depends on how creative you get. A "brute-force" approach by levitating would take far too much power. Constructing some flying apparatus partially powered by the Art might be possible, though.

>>6191982
Ornihopter! AWESOME

>>6191948
Bridges

>>6191886

Just like Hagran has Skill and our proposed daughter last(?) thread has Secrets, I think one domain of each of our pantatheon should reflect Knowlege. She could have Wisdom or something.

>>6191982
Getting to other island isn't a concern for now.

Let's focus on our island. What's the situation here?

>>6192023
Fertility can cover the knowledge of growing things.

>>6191976
You considered the possibility of teleportation before, but while a divinely empowered vessel would withstand it, it'd probably be too much for a human, mage or not.
>The problem is that I didn't draw any hard-and-fast rules for the Art yet. It'll probably end up as "whatever needs to be done, without making things too easy".

>>6192023
Knowledge and Wisdom goes hand in hand basically.

I'm not really opposed, It's just there's only so many properties that are sub-groups of knowledge.

>>6191982
Bestow the knowledge of creating Zeppelins on our people, NOW

>>6192055
Just focus on the story for now.

>>6192047

True, but pretty much all possible domains cover knowlege in that sense; healing could just as well be said to be the knowlege of medicine, or similar. I was thinking of something more abstract. And for a mother/wife-goddess, Wisdom fits.

>>6192055
That was an error. But oh well, they say reality is malleable no? :3
Proposition: generally anything not EPIC for normal mages, EPIC for divinely blessed mages (and focused around the one who gave the blessing).

>>6192080
Wisdom could be considered a part of our own sphere. Let's keep it that way. Our new gods need to fill in the gaps where we fall short, not split up what we've already got.

>>6192047
>A general in-touch-with-the-nature gig? Knowing how things grow, how animals behave, how to speed up natural healing, et cetera.
>>6192033
The missionaries have sown the seeds of faith in all the villages by now. What remains are the two towns of the island. Your activity goes unnoticed, as more and more guards are moved to other islands.

We really need to start looking for a Leonardo da Vinci type character on the islands. The Masters might have psionics, but we'd have SCIENCE!

Last time I'll ask: Please anyone come up with another more fantasy-ish non-reality-inspired name for this goddess? Pwetty pwease? :U

Can we look into other planes? If their is so saw an "astral plane" perhaps we could have them sue it to "skip" the water

>>6192106
She'd also be the goddess of nature, so yeah.

>>6192106

Huh. Is that movement of guards as a result of the Masters trying to hunt us down, or is there something else brewing?

...or are the Masters evacuating their loyal minions in advance of stomping all over our island?

>>6192106
Hmmm... we do want those towns...

Perhaps we should fast-forward till our friend mage decides if he wants to join us. Then we can use one of them to convert, the other to spread the faith/gain more mages as I proposed before.

>>6192111
Let's keep expanding. And how is our attempt to convert Ligrish?
>>6192117
Looks like she's Shyla.

>>6192136
Hrm, you're right, we really should see what that is all about.

Have Andreus claim he'd heard rumors and ask one of the other guys about it.

>>6192138
Yeah, let's make Shyla and fast forward.

>>6192159

We still need a champion for her.

>>6192117
Uh... Rhea, Fauna, Dryda, Agea, Avja, Gaia?

Can we watch where the guards are going? If not, can we send an otter along to follow them?

>>6192168
Those names pale in comparison to SHYLA!

Reality, if you want, I think I'd be okay with more NPC-like interaction with Hagran and any other gods we spawn. We do create them as separate individuals after all, only extremely loyal to us. That doesn't mean they can't question things we do and stuff, that'd just be interesting. Especially as seeing how some of them are going to be of pretty differing ideals.

Like I could imagine how Hagran is impatient and just wants to start a war already.

>just read what happened yesterday
oh fucking hell.
The Masters are Aboleth and they where created by the Old Ones as mentioned in the Lords of Madness. (all the god names have counterparts in the Lovecraft mythos)

>>6192207
Hagran isn't warmongering.

But anyway, this voice has a point. You should jump between Strategic and Cinematic modes.

>>6192122
>we could have them sue it
>I don't think we have lawyers yet. An inspiring vision, though.

>>6192138
Zhuang finally reaches a decision. "I... I have no choice but to believe what I saw and heard. How could I have been so blind? I will seek to redeem myself, if it is at all possible."

>>6192193
DAT RACK

I now want to have sex with a goddess.

>>6192207

When we start filling up the pantatheon, I can see us having boardroom-meetings up in the Astral Plane with all the other gods. Awesome.

>>6192224

Is this to us or to Dre?

>>6192222
He's a god of war and bravery, of course he's a fucking warmongerer. Why else would be create the weapons? He just wants to show how well his craftmanship works in practice and how brave his/our subjects are.

Doesn't mean he's going against our will, he's just got another idea of how to implement it.

>>6192138

I'd definitely propose doing what we can to get a monopoly on users of the Art, if at all possible. Either by converting those sympathetic to us (which should be all of them, given that we're all about protection and benevolence and knowledge and yaaay humans), or by stomping those who won't convert, as there are always a few who'd side with monstrosities of the deep if they thought it'd get them a bigger piece of the pie. Art-users are the Masters' most useful tool on the surface.

We could try a Bondsmage kind of approach - get one mage, boost his power so he can convert another. Two mages gang up on a third mage, who joins or perishes. Three mages gang up on the fourth, who likewise joins or perishes, and so on and so forth. Move fast enough and the other mages won't have time to unite or coordinate, and we could clean up on the Art front.

Or are we not being quite that ruthless just yet?

It doesn't need to be outright mage-duels, I guess - maybe peer-pressure would work just as well.

>>6192224
Excellent, now we should decide what our mages shall do with themselves.

Propositions:

A: one preaches in secret while the other converts other renegade mages.

B: both preach in the two different towns

C: both concentrate in turning all the local mages then refer to A and B.

"Your redemption was completed when you embraced the truth my child."

>>6192224
Time to introduce Zhuang to Hagran?

Redeem himself by serving, of his free will, our son for a while? Just as a casual suggestion?

>>6192257
We made that Hephaestus/Hagran thing for a reason. There is no need to do battle, yet.

>>6192224
No lawyers? This is unacceptable, We may be in the bronze age, But dammit out knowledge of law has to go somewhere! Sides this new towns got an "Eye for an Eye" type law and we can't have that.

>>6192269
>>6192273
Inform him of Hagran, and get them to convert Ligrish. We need him on our side too.

>>6192220
>Whee! Aren't eldritch abominations FUN?

>>6192193
>Well... Hyperion's symbol is the Awesome Face. Half of the NPCs have greek names. Having a pornstar goddess kinda fits into this madness.

>>6192222
>Trying to do that, most of the time. Also, Hagran's craftsman side requires patience, doesn't it?

>>6192158
It seems that it's a "search the other islands extensively" operation.

>>6192224
To open yourself to new knowledge is to redeem yourself.

>>6192292
First lets actually take control of the towns?

>>6192262
Again, I think we already settled on not being an oppressive god. We're not going to force our will on anyone, we will just inspire faith, and those who comes, comes. That doesn't mean we can't bring down mages who are a threat, as we are all about protecting. But no forcing belief on anyone.

>>6192296
what are they searching for? Us?

The quality of this thread is far lower than that of the previous ones.
OP, on behalf of all anons, I apologize.

>>6192319
DUH

>>6192305
Well, I agree, even if I did propose mindcontrol earlier, but >>6192262 has a point with "more mages? even more mages!"

We do want to influence the people at the top if we want to break off the soon-to-be-sushi ones.

>>6192328
Honestly, I've got to say OP is responsible as well. He's the one in charge of leading the story. If he just sits back and doesn't do anything, then nothing comes out of it.

>>6192328
I... I have to agree... I apologize as well Reality, the problem is not with your device.

>>6192293
With Ligish, you take a much more direct approach. He knows Zhuang well and is easily convinced of your existence and good intentions. When you tell him of the Masters' deceptions, he remains calm.
"That's funny. Somewhere deep inside, I always suspected this. I suppose you can't live in denial forever."

I love these threads.
Anyway how about trying to convert those guards/Ligrish as well? Or maybe we should finish with Zhuang first?

>It seems that it's a "search the other islands extensively" operation.

Okay, we need to find out why.

Either they're searching the islands for us and just doesn't know where to look. But I believe they begun this mustering of forces before we talked to the masters.

Or it's something else that is stirring up trouble. And the enemy of an enemy is a prospective ally. We could sure use one of those.

How do we go about it?

>>6192353
T-that was easy.

>>6192328

I think this thread is mostly dealing with the revelation of the true nature of the Masters, and working out how to react.

I'd like to expedite getting Ligrish on-side, if that's at all possible. If he won't join out of loyalty to humanity, perhaps we can lure him with promises of vast knowledge.

>>6192361
You mean the enemy of my enemy dies next?

>>6192224

"The flame of knowlege has lit your path and the willfully ignorant darkness has fallen away. You have done nothing to need redeeming, for who can blame a man not knowing where to find a torch for stumbling in the dark?
If you wish to serve the cause of the flame of knowlege, there is but one thing that must be done: the peoples of these lands are not out foes, but our allies as yet shrouded in darkness. Open their minds slowly to the light, then pass my beacon unto them, as my disciple has given unto you."

>>6192339
>I'm trying to avoid forcing the decisions I'd make on you. Though this thread seems more "Here's my idea" than "Let's discuss a few ideas together", which makes it harder to work with.

>>6192353
well, that was easy... maybe too easy?

We need to keep an eye on them and make sure they don't fall again, or betray us

I think we should scour Ligrish and Zhuang's minds for knowledge we do not yet possess. Also see as to their current loyalty to us.

Is Ligish's mind open to use now? Can we read him like we can our other followers, or is he still blocked to us?

>>6192361
You'd say it's the illusion spell you used to cover Otto's retreat, the illusionary doubles. They chose to focus on the wrong Ottos and therefore - the wrong islands.

>>6192387
>I feel bad for even suggesting it. But a reboot with a planned story/systematic might be good. The Deity Quest is a 5/5 idea, its just that our faggotry and the lack of borders or 'solids' in the world is like oil to the flame.

>>6192374
Go with this, and then ask them to share all their knowledge about the Masters for they are still largely unknown to us.
In addition, ask Zhuan and Ligish about the more influential people they know and if they think it's possible to convert them to our cause.

Let's fast forward some.

We create Shyla and introduce her to our people. And we have Andreus, Zuang, and Ligrish convert the guard captain.

>>6192425
oh shut up, he's managed fine so far.

>>6192363
>>6192395
Well, Andreus has been subtly working on them since the very beginning. This was the culmination of the efforts put into converting them.

>>6192410
>>6192401
Their minds are open to you and they are dedicated to your cause with the same zeal they had shown towards the Masters before.

>>6192413
that makes sense. We're almost too clever for our own good, planning that in advance like we did

>>6192437
After this, I mean, a Deity Quest ver 2.0 if you will.

>>6192427
This.

>>6192425
>No, I'm not going to do that. The very idea behind this quest is "Start with these conditions and see where /tg/ takes me". I like doing open worlds.

>>6192435

Rather than being created, I like the idea that for a new god, an exemplar of their ideologies among the humans should be there to champion it, like with Talos and Hagran.

Why would we need another goddess right now?

I say we take this island now, while the guards are away - either by converting the remaining guards, or overpowering them if need be.

Given that lots of guards are on the move, there's a risk that they'll all come piling on our heads once we move to open rebellion, so inciting trouble on the other islands should help to keep them occupied.

So, on this island our target becomes the captain of the guard. Do Ligish and Zhuang have any ideas of how to bring him on-side? Peacefully, if possible.

Talos, Andreus and Plato are prime material for Hero-gods.
Post-mortem anyhow.

>>6192479

Or at least Saints.

dammit why did this awesome thread have to come up just as I was going to sleep. :'(

>>6192495
Rise from your grave!

>>6192454
>an apology http://g.e-hentai.org/g/162413/43aa3625fc/

>>6192479
I prefer the idea of them being reborn into a new vessel

so they can hone their knowledge further and all that

>>6192520
Eh, I did think of a Hero system after we crack the Soul/Mind machine, and create my Life/Death gods to watch over the whole thing.

My idea was mainly based off F/SN... lynch me.

>>6192374
"Your will be done. Let nobody be left in this accursed darkness. We shall spread the light."

>>6192427
They already told everything they knew about the Masters to Andreus during his training. As for influential people, there's the captain of the guard, of course, and some officials. The former's loyalty has shifted from the Masters to the mages by now, seeing as he's taking his orders from them all the time. The latter are mostly interested in their own well-being.

>>6192479
>>6192520
Your forgetting Otto, However i like the idea of just giving him enhancements and immortal life then giving him a new body, Unless it was a new body of an even more bad ass otter

>>6192520
>Life/Death gods
Dear god no.

>>6192559
You think thats horrible? See the second thread for more info.

>>6192546

Awesome.

First things first: No more tributes to the Masters. All resources go towards the wellbeing of the islanders, and building up stockpiles in case we get hit with an ocean blockade.

Get Hagran to take a look at the island's settlements, using what we know of the Masters and the Guards to determine the best way to defend ourselves while we build up our powerbase here.

How's Plato's messenger-bird network doing? What's the news from the other islands?

>>6192559

Didn't we decide on making androgynous twins as gods of life and death in the first or second thread?

>>6192574
I dunno the androgynous twin wives sounds kinda funny and is sure to give some fucked up family values to the followers.
Bigamy fuck yeah!

>>6192581
Yes. Yes we did.

>First things first: No more tributes to the Masters. All resources go towards the wellbeing of the islanders, and building up stockpiles in case we get hit with an ocean blockade.
Wouldn't the "no more tribute" be a huuuuge warning sign that where there?

>>6192581
>>6192584
>>6192586
FFFFFFFFFF YES ANDROGYNOUS WIVES FOR THE OVERGOD

On the note of tributes to the Masters... what exactly happens to them after they're taken away? Where are they taken, how are they offered? Can we observe that?

>>6192584
Who said anything about wives?
This is a pantheon not a dating show.

Also they were also meant to be underage, not like that would have bothered the antique gods.

>>6192591

Yeah, this is a terrible idea. Keep spreading better farming techniques around the island, so people get more food, but DON'T change anything that the Masters can see.

We already fucked up in letting them know we exist, although we didn't realize they were such bastards when we talked with them.

Keep spreading faith, keep improving farming technique, and keep converting mages, working up the food chain as much as possible. Once we have enough mages under our thumb, then the captain of the guard will do what we say anyways.

>>6192591

True, but the sudden surplus from not having to pay massive tributes any more should go a long way towards winning over the populace at large - their hard work is going to them now, rather than to some mysterious overlords, which was a big source of grumbling and discontent when we first arrived.

>>6192603
What was it again? Left at the edge of water then disappear by overnight?

And honestly whoever the fuck decided to tell them that we need faith to exist?
Fucking moronic move there.

>>6192635

Oh, that was it. Can we watch what happens at night, in that case?

>>6192624
If that high mage dude (Tymon?) is loyal then we've just tipped them off tho. And possibly screwed over our chances with some of the guard as well...

>>6192636

Ah, well. We are the God of Knowledge, after all. Makes sense that we'd suck at lying.

>>6192624
Second.

>>6192636
I don't remember telling anyone that we NEED faith to exist.

>>6192545
>Fate / Stay Night? That's the one with summoning heroes from the past, right?

A few days later, the island is under your control. The captain of the guard converted willingly, most of the guards accepted the change in leadership without questioning it.

>>6192579
The bird network is meant for communication between the villages on this island. One, your alphabet hasn't spread beyond the island, and using the pictograms is risky. Two, it works like messenger pidgeons - you take them with you and when you release them, they fly back home.
Getting rid of the tribute wins you much popularity.
Hagran promises to take care of the island's defenses, starting with reforging the metal weapons.

>>6192624

If we can get the guard captain on-side, how about skimming from the tributes? Our improved farming techniques will provide more and more food, but if we keep the tributes the same as they were we should be able to discreetly build up stockpiles of our own without them noticing.

Guys, we need to boil the seas.

Let me repeat that, BOIL THE SEAS: LET'S DO IT.

>>6192591
>Right, didn't think of that. My bad. Consider that ret-conned.

shit missed this somehow (that damned requirement to eat and sleep at regulare intervals!) so quick update, how we doin sense otter tank pulled his fast one yesterday?

>>6192654
>I don't remember telling anyone that we NEED faith to exist.

>i am not of FLESH or BLOOD
i am an idea FOREVER AND UNDYING and so long as you know this... as ANYONE knows this... i shall NEVER die

>"Therefore when you are forgotten, you shall cease to exist."
>"A simple task."

>>6192655
>Yep, in short: guy is awesome, awesome guy dies, World says "wanna join me?", awesome guy says "okay", his soul gets saved in a central archive, shit arises, World sends out a copy of the soul enhanced by the legend around the awesome guy, thus we have EPIC guy.

We should spread the alphabet once we have mages/people across other islands, but first, >>6192624

We need more news of other islands.

I propose investing some of our power in a wide-ranging seabird, to fly to the other islands and keep an eye on troop movements.

Assuming we can't just Eye of Sauron it and look over there for ourselves.

>>6192655
Get construction of palisade walls around the towns cities, and roads connecting them. We want to make a "global village" across the entire island.

>>6192651
>Gah, forgot to mention this. I should slow the pace down a bit, I think, since I skip some things.
Tymon and his apprentice have been called away for the hunt some time ago.

Why use Fate/Stay?
Didn't Basic (Moldvay or Mentzer I think?) have a system for Immortals, Hero Gods and Leader of Pantheons?

>>6192678
We're converting mages with industrial efficiency.

>>6192624
>>6192632
>>6192659
That's a much better alternative to "down with the tribute". In the long run, it will matter greatly.

>>6192624
>we didn't realize
The picture should have really tipped you off.
And seriously the gods. SERIOUSLY.
But oh well, it's fun this way too. :)

>>6192694

Also prepare some kind of fastness further inland, out of reach of the ocean. If the Masters start fucking up our shit around the coast we might need to evacuate the civilians to somewhere safer.

>>6192700
because in fate/stay you recharge the powers of your heros by having sex with them?

>>6192635
>>6192647
Yes, you should be able to do that. The time for paying tribute is drawing near.

>>6192694
dis is a good idea.
Also maybe we should train/teach our mages some stuff / have them recruit more people if viable?

>>6192655

Alright, so next mission: finding out how Tymon (head mage guy) communicates with the Masters. Once we figure out how he contacts them, and what the dialogue between them are, we can determine our next course of action in that regard.

Also, find someone with an aptitude for teaching the alphabet, and have that fucker go nuts. Literacy is extremely important to the war effort, and on top of that, is one of the simplest and easy ways to make Big Pappy Knowledge happy.

>>6192700
Pic.

>>6192695
What shall we do with him? I doubt he'll join us.

Have the guards skim the tributes as much as is doable without notice. Also farming techniques will go a long way to getting us more food.

Also, this: >>6192667
It will increase landmass and allow us to grow (longterm, but whatever) and lessen the realm of the Masters. Win-win. Question is how do we do it?

>>6192719
>Wait, what? Didn't hear that particular piece of information yet.

Make sure to imbue those mages we've converted and are loyal to us with some of our power, as well as any knowlege of the Art relevant to them that we might have gleaned from our own experimentation with it. Will help keep them loyal, as well as inspire others to do the same.

>>6192739

I meant after Tymon and his apprentice give up on the hunt. Hopefully if we lay really low, the Masters will stop looking actively.

>>6192744
Easy, pic related.

>>6192719
>>6192746
Its an option, but usually they get fed off ambient mana generated by the master, unless the master is a fucking idiot or loser. Then you can only fuck. Now imagine Shirou with Alexander the Great.

>>6192744
Is the BOIL THE SEA idea more extreme then my LIFT THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA idea?

>>6192694
You begin constructing fortifications.

>>6192716
That's not an easy task, but nevertheless, preparations begin.

>>6192746
Fate/stay is a hentai game/visual novel I had a freind who was HUGE into the people who made it, played all their games so I got a indepth rundown of the grail wars, of which I remember very little. The anime left out the porny bits (but left the gay bulge, which never fails to penitrate its target).

>>6192787
>I have a simple answer for you: Do both.

Well, Seems to me we need a fail safe,
Get to work on constructing one golem body and transfer one of our most dedicated believers into it, The transfer that body into am small isolated area, (maybe the soul stuff plane?) and just have him worship. The golem body should take care of any of his needs and provide him with constant happiness,

And thus our failsafe.

>>6192739

Teaching the alphabet is important, but so is keeping it secret, for now. Working messages into "decorative" designs and religious texts into "abstract" ornamentation is the way to go. Plus, the more ubiquitous our Word becomes, the better. Have it inscribed on everyday objects, so that our teachings become part of the fabric of everyday life.

>>6192713
1E Ad&d luve.
http://depositfiles.com/files/7vn22dh1g
Also Lords of Madness page 15 to 32 has stuff on the Deep Masters. (Aboleths)
Holashner - Shudde M'ell or Tsathoggua
Y'chak - Nyarlathotep or Hastur
Piscaethces - Cthulhu or Shub-Niggurath
Shothotugg - Azatoth

Can the mages detect magic like, for instance, familiars? Can the Masters, even? I doubt it considering they lost the real Otto when we created copies of him.

Since we are capable of creating familiars I suggest we create seagulls for scouting the other islands and rats or other small animal for espionage. We should especially spy on Tymon or at the very least search his room.

Maybe provide Zhuang and Ligish with their own familiars? As a token of our appreciation if nothing else.

>>6192787

Undersea Volcanic Eruption! That's like the Hydrogen Bomb in this little universe. This is way way way long term, but would accomplish everything we want; more metal, more landmass, boiling deadly seas, and WAY less of those fishy fucks.

Fate/stay night is shit and it doesn't fit here.

>>6192739
Ligish has communicated with the Masters' servants from time to time, though cannot initiate the contact on his own. Should it happen again, you will notice it.

You begin spreading the alphabet on the island, having found some adequate teachers.

>>6192837

Tsunamis. Not so great, unless we can figure a way to protect our chosen people from the cataclysm.

>>6192809
Check with the mages of what they know of Tymon and his way of contacting the masters. (assuming he's the top mage)
Also who is his apprentice?

>>6192787
Burn the land and Boild the Sea
You can't take the sky from me.

But yea boiling the sea ould be extinction level for the ocean, and take phenominal power (I have a chemical engineering degree, I could calculate it for you). Also no more fishing, and massive CO2 buildup (most photosenthises is done by plankton, like in the 80 or 90% range) Raising a section would be extinction level for the section raised and cause major floods/earthquacks causing damage on the land.

>>6192835
Cockroaches.
Those bastards will survive most stuff.

>>6192817 Have it inscribed on everyday objects, so that our teachings become part of the fabric of everyday life.

I like this idea but take it one step further. Either take over, or though gifting relevant people with knowlege, have turn one of our islands into, a major centre for the creation and export of things like textiles and other goods. Into those goods, holy passages and other truths could be woven in out alphabet. When we teach or enlighten someone about our alphabet, they would then see our word around them all the time in everyday life, helping with conversions.

>>6192787
Boiling the sea actually does more, technically. Because even if you raise the seafloor, you have the same amount of water that still needs to go somewhere, so you're just raising the waterline. And boiling away water gives more landmass right away.

Reality, I tap two mountains and two islands and cast Boil. Your turn.

>>6192837
Can't wait to nuke the sea out from under the Masters.

>>6192841
You must be new here.

>>6192835
This.

I vote we make a golem for us or Hagran to inhabit in defense of the island.

>>6192829
>Going with Shudde M'ell, Nyarlathotep and Shub-Niggurath respectively.

>>6192835
They can. You did whatever you could to create the most convincing illusions possible, though, including an artificial magical aura. You could try to mask an existing aura, though it seems harder to accomplish.

>Burn the land and Boild the Sea
>You can't take the sky from me.

Exactly that was my inspiration. High-five bro!

However, we're a fucking god. I don't think we need to concern ourselves with petty physical consequences. This is a fantasy trope after all.

I mean, I like realism and science as much as the next guy, but if you're gonna shout that out all the time there won't be much left we can do. But I doubt that was you were trying to say, so no sweat.

>>6192882

We've just about got one island so far, I believe - we've yet to really extend our reach to the others.

I suggest that the inland fastness should be part stronghold, part school, part temple retreat. Let the initiated go there to learn and teach others.

Forget the boil the sea idea. It would cause too much problems. Our worshippers would surely die from one of the sideeffects.

To those of you not familiar with Aboleths.
Let's just make this quite clear from the get go.
They DO NOT WORSHIP. NO NOT EVEN THE OLD ONES, THAT'S MORE RESPECT.
WE WILL NOT GET ABOLETH FOLLOWERS OTHER THAN THOSE WHO WANT MORE POWER.
DESTROY THEM.
UTTERLY.

Uh, under boil the sea, we meant, a certain amount of sea, right? Not like, every bit of water? That would be a tad bit out of our current reach, methinks.

>>6192835
>>6192867
You begin using animals and vermin as your scouts.
You also give your prophets familiars. The gift is much appreciated.

>>6192856
Tymon usually kept to himself. Not much is known about him. His apprentice is Galen, another mage from this island, stronger than Zhuang, but weaker than Ligish. They both left the island.

>>6192889
>You must be new here.
Actually not at all.

But this is a quest primarily concerned with greek mythos and some D&D fluff. Adding Anime tropes to it will not be any sort of good.

Fuck yes Island retreat/Keep.
>>6192856
also this.

>>6192888
>Lessee... Counterspell? Is that one still legal? Been a while since I played.

>>6192974
>Greek mythos? In name only, I think. And some universal tropes.

Dammit we need to know more about these other islands.
Send explorers.
For KNOWLEDGE!

>>6192888 Because even if you raise the seafloor, you have the same amount of water that still needs to go somewhere, so you're just raising the waterline. And boiling away water gives more landmass right away.

You may not be aware, but boiling things does not actually remove them from existance, either.

Boiling the sea or raising the seafloor is beyond your capabilities for now, anyway. You still have plenty of time to decide the details.

>>6192994
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF You goddamn glorious bastard.

Hrm, well played Reality, well played.

I WILL BE BACK MARK MY WORDS AGHAGHAGAHGAHAGA

>>6192974
The Heroic Spirit system still would have worked 100%, and I can't taste the anime in that.

>>6192970
Should we not decide on how we deal with him when he returns? I'm guessing our 3 mages with divine assistance could take him and his apprentice, but... dunno...

>>6192893
You don't exactly have means to animate it, except for perhaps stuffing a soul in it.

>>6193023
I am aware, and it will increase humidity by alot. But I'd think that'd be less of a problem than floods and our followers drowning.

>>6192945

Awesome idea! Monastery type retreat. Young 'uns of all kind show up to learn basically everything, science, metallurgy, farming. In return, we get a well-educated middle class that also has weapons training. This is fucking awesome.

>>6192970

If Tymon isn't very approachable by himself, then we should go through Galen. Search out any knowledge about him, what he's like, who he's friends with, etc.

Once Galen gets back, we should use him to learn more about Tymon, and convert Galen first, if possible.

>>6193039
Test run, have Talos create a tiny clay doll, then lets stuff it with soulstuff and see what happens.

>>6193039
Couldn't we ourselves inhabit it when the need arises? Or Hagran? Or Shyla even?

How many mages do we HAVE right now?

>>6193036
Three and a god versus two? You like the odds. Ligish's not much weaker than Tymon and with greater support, the difference is more than negated.

>>6192964
It is suprisingly dificult to be selective with boiling but yeah the system is large enouph we would not boil it all. It would be more energy effecent to break off a mountain or two and drop it on their underwater cities.

>The Heroic Spirit system still would have worked 100%, and I can't taste the anime in that.

It just feels ACTIVATU SUPARU POWARHU MODU kind-of-anime to me. But maybe I'm just a retard.

>>6193039
Do we have any souls on demand?
Or can we try to manipulate the crystal for a custom soul?
On that note does the crystal take requests?

>>6193066
The anime is shit compared to the VN anyway, so we're both right.

>>6192955
THIS.
Don't fuck around when it comes to the finishing blow.
Crush them utterly.

>>6193053
It will be done. Though time is the most precious resource right now.

As for Galen, noted.

>>6193056

This, can we get a status check on our islands and significant followers?

As for Tymon, it's good to know we can take him if and when needed, but for know we should probably bide our time.

>>6193056

Two mages, one multiclass mage/cleric. Plus quite a few fighters.

>>6193076
Let's fast forward or time skip or whatever. Get this story off the ground. As a God, our time is infinite.

Teach our followers to domesticate beasts. (maybe just one but help out a lot to see to it that he doesn't fail?)
Get attack dogs and Oxen to plow fields.

Not asking for a skip as such, but could we get some more of the human side of things going now that we've spent a while on grand strategy?

>>6193054
It quickly gets covered with moss, as soulstuff leaks out of it and into the lifeforms on its surface

>>6193055
>Ooh, that's exactly how gods manifest in my default D&D setting.
Yes, you could do such a thing. However, having autonomous servants would be a boon.

>>6193073
You didn't make any real progress with the crystal.

Fucking Crossbows. (easy to learn to use)
or if that's too much Bows. (a lot harder but effective)
Or maybe those don't fit in to the current timeperiod?

>>6193105
Is the moss covered mini golem alive?

Let's try to get a small garrison of terra cotta style automatons.

>>6193064
Depends on what you mean with selective. Sure, if we're talking *BIOLING*, then the whole seas has to boil. But if we stop shooting in power and warmth into the seas when or shortly before we've reached the desired effect, it would eventually calm down.

It's not gonna POOF and then go away.

>>6193103
>Got anyone specific in mind?

>>6193097
>I think domesticated animals exist already. I said Bronze Age level, right?

We need us some versatile, easy to use/produce armor.

>>6193097
Attack dogs plowing the fields?!?! :3

Also, with our growing power, could we not try to tamper with the Device some more? Targeted soul implantation would solve the golem thing, also lots of delicious options from there.

>>6193105

Try injecting soulstuff into different materials, like rock, metal, bone, crystal, etc, to see if any are "soultight", so to speak.

>>6193114
time? time doesn't matter as long as we have the knowledge and materials.

we should focus on spears or polearms in general, we dont have enough metal (any at all?) to forge swords.

Rather then boiling, work on tectonic activity. A new continent there, a new trench there, and it all balances out.

With our wide-ranging scouts, are we able to do things through them?

Stuff like laying false trails, if the guards are on one side of the islands then cause miracles or apparitions on the opposite side of the islands that'll have the guards scrambling all over the goddamn archipelago looking for us.

Thus buying us time to consolidate our position.

In fact, that'd be freakin' awesome - have illusionary Ottos showing up all over the place, constantly confounding and outwitting the guards so he becomes a trickster-type folk hero among the oppressed and disgruntled populace.

>>6193114
You're a god of knowledge. If it doesn't exist, you help invent it. Crossbows it is, as bows exist already.

>>6193118
No, pure soul-stuff without a consciousness doesn't seem to cut it.

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We've reached the bump limit no?

I vote to work on golem and soul stuff research

>>6193143

Mental note: work on how to make some sort of Heavenly Host as soon as possible.

>>6193144

>>6193150
Heavenly hosts are Luciferbait.

>>6193141
>Freakin' awesome indeed.
You use your superior scouts and illusions to confuse the enemy forces and send them on wild goose chases. Once they stop reacting, you use real Otto to spread your faith.

>>6193141
we shouldn't reveal ourselves at all. an unknown, hidden foe will probably make them piss their pants. besides, of they feel that they are led on a wild goose chase by the masters, they might start to doubt them.

Have we decided on war leaders yet?
Talos?

>>6193131

Any word on this? Maybe the soulstuff needs to be contained by a crystal, like the one in the afterlife.

>>6193158
A note to give Otto human level intelligence later.

Also, the tome detailing our legend shall be called this: pic related.

>>6193131
Like it has been mentioned, objects designed with this purpose in mind can hold soul-stuff.

>>6193144
That hasn't been a problem in the last few threads. We're already enough many in here and it lives until Reality has to go to sleep.

My guess is he's German.

>>6193133
Noted.

>Did we hit autosage?

>>6193193

UKer, I think - he's on the same timezone as me.

>>6193124

>Nothing specific, just feel like advancing the human-scale plot a little after we're finished strategizing before we skip to "Okay, the work on ... has been completed".

>>6193193
>Just a bit further to the east.

>>6193223

Yeah, we hit autosage. New thread?

Otto needs to become the trickster god in our up-and-coming Pantheon.

The benevolent trickster rebel good of righteousness.

>>6193204
Yes, the thread is on page 2 or 3 now. Might as well start a new one.

Know what we need?
Windmills.
Maps/Cartographers/compasses. (assuming our followers don't have explicit knowledge about the islands) (better to keep what we know abstract though)
and in case our alphabet doesn't contain it yet, a numbering system.

>>6193193
I hope not, its 1:31am around here in middle Europe.

Reality, small continuous stream of soulstuff+mortal=does not die of old age?

>>6193073
Do you wish to experiment with the crystal again?

>>6193242
This, I second it.

>>6193252
We do.

Human-scale plot... Plato's still doing his thing, right? How's his wife doing as the chosen one of our goddess of fertility and farming?

Getting the guard captain more invested in our cult seems like a good idea - get Andreus to introduce him to the idea, then have Hagran show off his awesomeness to the captain.

If we can the local guards following a martial cult based around Hagran, that'd give us an extra-dedicated fighting force.

What happens if we stuff soulstuff into something living? Start small with, say, a random fly.

>>6193272

Good idea. They can be the warrior-wing of the scholar/priest caste.

>>6193278
Reality said that... bad things would happen. If we take it too far, otherway, healing.

>>6193244
>Yeah, 1:34 AM on my clock right now. Will manage a few more hours, though.
>>6193242
Noted. Both will take time, though.

>>6193233
New thread: >>6193290

>>6193288
ELITE GUARD FUCK YEAH

We should have Hagran create a golden colored Golem for us to use.

>>6193298

That's the problem though, it's apparently a bitch to animate stuff like that. I think we need to find out how a soul is sealed within the human body before we can try to replicate it in something else, you know?