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    53 KB Deity Quest, part 2 Reality 10/06/09(Tue)15:52 No.6159900  
    >part 1: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/6145656/

    You are a god of Knowledge, Protection and Fire.
    Your symbol is the face of a man basking in glorious knowledge.
    Your sacred animal is the otter, smart and capable of using tools.
    You are fond of using the Holy Flame of Knowledge as a metaphor.

    You reassess the situation.
    Plato, your prophet, has converted the whole village, not counting the guards of course.
    Andreus, a young man from the village, is now spreading your faith in another village. You have bestowed upon him an otter companion, clearly marked by your divine will, a staff with a sphere containing the Flame of Knowledge and limited powers of healing people and igniting things.

    In his daily prayer Plato inquired about the existance of human souls. You confirmed their existence, though vaguely, as you can sense them. Plato proceeded to ask about the fate of souls. You have yet to answer this question.

    Andreus is engaged in a debate with some of the inhabitants of the other village. Another important matter has been raised: do other gods exist? You need to decide on both the answer and how Andreus should deliver it.

    You also committed some effort towards understanding souls. Here is what you found out:
    Souls come from a source that you were unable to locate so far.
    Should they be forced out of their body (typically via death), they eventually dissolve, presumably returning to the source.
    Souls cannot enter mundane objects, but they could enter a different body (allowing reincarnation), a specially prepared item or a metaphysical body, becoming somewhat similar to you (angels, if you will, or some other divine servants).

    What do you do?

    >On the "multiple gods" issue - I am willing to let you control multiple deities, should a pantheon come into existence. This would allow the more smite-happy participants to have their influence on the story.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)15:57 No.6159969
    Oh fun, I was part of yesterdays too, so let's jump right into this.

    How about we tell him that until one of his followers dies we aren't sure exactly what we can do with his soul? We tell him that we have many different ideas, but nothing concrete yet.

    About the other gods, lets leave it at a 'maybe' until later. WE, the capitals intentional, haven't found another deity yet, but that only means we haven't found one yet .
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)15:59 No.6160010
    >We had quite a discussion on what to do yesterday and no consensus, if I recall correctly, so would you mind if I waited for some more people to express their opinions?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:02 No.6160049
    I vote we tell Plato that our great prophets shall be sent back to our followers as our servant, to help guide them. (As a fire elemental type spirit.) Others reincarnate, with the hope that they may do great works in our name and earn the honor of being an elemental.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:03 No.6160066
    Tell him that a soul is the shape of a man of what he chooses to learn and become, as the flame of life is extinguished its heat remains with all things permeating through eternity, this then is the soul of man.
    (Basically makeup some shit that benefits you.)
    >> Vector !NEy29ODpvs 10/06/09(Tue)16:04 No.6160084
    rolled 8, 17, 19 = 44

    Create Xom
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:05 No.6160093
    It has been established though that what we say becomes truth almost immediately. That's why its important that we can live with our choices on this subject.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:05 No.6160094
    We are a glorious god, but only cover so much. There are other gods for other purposes so to speak. A god of war, a god of pestilence and so forth. It's also imperative that there be other gods for there to be a divine balance. Some are at odds with others, while getting along with others and so forth.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:06 No.6160131
    puts heat death into perspective then,
    the fate of the universe is to become a giant soul pool,
    whether this be heaven or hell is yours to decide
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:10 No.6160175
    It strikes you that dividing humanity into your worshippers and followers of other gods is more beneficial than dividing them into believers and non-believers. A follower of one god can't exactly deny the existence of all others - therefore you would gain small amounts of power from such a faith.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:10 No.6160179
    >but they could enter a different body (allowing reincarnation), a specially prepared item or a metaphysical body, becoming somewhat similar to you (angels, if you will, or some other divine servants).

    The fate of souls is to be refined in life through gaining knowledge and ascend to a greater plane of power. Humans who remain ignorant of themselves and the world become the animals that their weak minds suit. Perhaps one day I can show you how one can become more then human.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:12 No.6160204
    We need a could antagonist then, the one who trolls and spams meaningless drivel, lord of lost threads it is his goal tht all should return to the nothing it once was.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:12 No.6160210
    >It seems that we're going with reincarnation as the default fate and ascension as the ultimate reward.

    You bestow this knowledge upon Plato, confident in your ability to manipulate souls.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:14 No.6160232
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:18 No.6160277
    Speaking of antagonists, you finally manage to come to certain conclusions regarding the mysterious Masters.
    First of all, you examine the world from a greater distance. The surface is mostly water, approximately three-fourths. There are no continents, rather hundreds of islands, both large and small.
    Furthermore, the majority of settlements is located either near the ocean shore or in the close vicinity of a river.
    Coupled with the fact that you are unable to discover the Masters' presence, it seems reasonably probable that they reside in the oceans of this world.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:19 No.6160292
    Fuck, Atlantis.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:21 No.6160319
    Otters are our special animal friend, so we send out some otter probes.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:27 No.6160400
    >All in favour of having a pantheon, then?
    The man repeats his question impatiently. "Well? Are there gods other than your Giver of Knowledge?"
    "Why don't you pray to Him and ask Him yourself? He shall most certainly answer you."
    The man doesn't seem to be entirely convinced, but he does begin praying. You contact his mind and inform him that indeed, other deities exist. In the process, you discover that his name is Talos.
    He wasn't expecting such a direct answer. Talos is shocked, but he continues to inquire about the nature of other deities. "Is there a god of strength and skill?"
    Talos seems to value those qualities above others.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:28 No.6160410
    We should start trying to see if we can comunicate with these masters in the water. Try to form a balanced and peacefull relationship. if we could convice them it would be better to have everyone worship all of us then we could have an even greater power.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:31 No.6160443
    Do you wish to simply ask the animal for such a favor?
    Or do you wish to turn an otter into a vessel for your divine will?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:32 No.6160454
    I have to head off to work now, but I think we should keep a pantheon small. Us, a God of War type guy who we're cool with, and the evil guy we don't like.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:33 No.6160462
    There are many gods that have some reign over strength and skill, but I am the only one that can give you the strength and skill that the Flame of Knowledge carries with it...
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:33 No.6160464
    >Well, it wasn't me who started the whole greek theme. You renamed your prophet Plato so I decided to make the name not stick out too much.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)16:35 No.6160491
    We want a god of Life/Death and Fortune/Misfortune, or maybe twins. Inb4divinetwincest
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:37 No.6160511
    Make a god that is your disciple
    The Forger of All Things who welds metals and shapes stone as well as others with the heat of the flame you've bestowed upon him.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)16:38 No.6160518
    Children? Little brothers and sisters? The other gods I mean.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:39 No.6160522
    Turn the otter into a vessel for my divine will.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:39 No.6160527
    the flame of knowledge that teaches the craft
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:45 No.6160605
    The Goddess of light and shadow, she who gives life to dreams and inspires the arts of song, dance and passion.
    Hers are the children of fortune who weave the brilliant threads of life into beautiful stories a goddess of fate.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)16:48 No.6160630
    Too broad, we don't want too much power distributed among the other gods. And all gods should be made lesser in one way or the other to the god of Knowledge. Children of Him is a given, as he is, aside from knowledge, the god of Protection, sounds like a good daddy.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:48 No.6160641
    Mebbe place ourself at the head of a knowledge themed pantheon? Like the guy above me mentioned a disciple who makes things, the war god could have emphasis on strategy etctera.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:51 No.6160675
    Hargan, the God of Strength, War and Smithy.
    Wyren, the Goddess of Skill, Knowledge and Mysteries (and the solving thereof).
    Are my primary suggestions.

    Furthermore, I feel it is important there be evil and vile gods to contrast there greatness of ourself. One does not attribute small moral fallacies to a "good" god when there are "evil" gods around. This is beneficial.

    Also I just fucking want a god of pestilence.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)16:51 No.6160677
    I vote for this:

    Our Father Of The Divine Flame
    +Add a wife thing (Love, beauty, motherhood)
    +Elder Son (Crafts and strength, HONORbarbarian.jpg)
    +Twins (Life and Death, make em androgynous)
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:51 No.6160679
    The ashen warden comes to gather the dust of those burned in their final sleep to spread them on the winds so that they may find a way to you to sort them out and give them to the lady of fate.
    The beast of fury, just wrath of yours personified he has no solid form though the forger has given him many, all tht can be said of him is that he burns.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)16:51 No.6160686
    A lesser deity whose domain is practical application of the knowledge you bestow? A Blacksmith of the Gods? It could just work. Do you wish to include anything else when telling Talos of this god? Perhaps fighting skill and leadership capabilities, to fulfill the "god of war" archetype?

    You influence the mind of an otter, turning it into your vessel. You send it to explore the ocean.

    The waters quickly become very deep, and there is no sign of any life. It seems that the Masters don't reside near the surface.

    You invest more power in the vessel, so that it will neither drown nor be crushed by great pressure. You send it to explore the depths of the ocean.

    It will probably take quite a while for it to discover anything.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:53 No.6160715
    Question: once we tell Talos this, will be immediately become aware of them or what?
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)16:55 No.6160742
    Thinking a bit ahead, the new gods should introduce themselves at appropriate moments, for example Talos goes home and crafts an excellent hammer or sword and the new god goes "YOU HAVE PLEASED ME" etc.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:55 No.6160747
    Not if you make her your consort as well,
    face it we'll get bored without ANYONE to challenge us
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:57 No.6160768
    As in Slanneshesque kind of androgynous twins?
    If yes I second that
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:57 No.6160770

    We could make the evil one a god of forgetting. To remember is to learn; to forget is to lose the Flame.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)16:57 No.6160786
    Not bored, more like, dead.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)16:59 No.6160800
    its been discussed a cold god of forgetfulness
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:00 No.6160824
    you haven't been in any quest threads before have you?
    face it, we're pretty indomitable unless we piss off the OP
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:01 No.6160828
    I like this.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:01 No.6160842
    If I were the OP, I would be pissed off at this comment : D
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:02 No.6160847

    how about a former disciple who was blinded by our light and could no longer learn?
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:03 No.6160869
    You're not quite sure, you don't have much experience with how deities are born.

    >Okay, the god of strength, war, honor, crafts, et cetera it is. Since you didn't name yourself yet, you won't give him a name either.

    You tell Talos of your eldest son, the patron of strength, creation and skill. He seems to be quite content with that. His conversion convinces many villagers.

    In the Place, the new deity begins to form. Unlike you, he is already defined by the faith of your followers.

    >How about deciding on names now? Suggestions from the first thread are Sophia and Hyperion.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:05 No.6160893
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:06 No.6160912
    I like the idea of sharing our ULTIMATE PWRZ for once, being an omnipotent ass isn't that enthralling
    and really who but a wise god could find out the very soul of creation and then share the power equally
    make twin gods of life/death light/shadow as your equal companions and have them supply the glamour while you deliver the contents
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:06 No.6160924
    Child should be Hephaestus. Cheese, yeah, but the First as titan, and the children as gods sounds good, also worked for the Greeks.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:08 No.6160962
    or not?
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:09 No.6160969
    >Doing stupid things and running out of followers will probably end this as well, even if "lolrandomstupid" won't annoy me. Just a word of warning.

    Do you wish to introduce all of these deities to your followers in Plato's village?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:10 No.6160991
    Not really
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:11 No.6160994
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    >Your symbol is the face of a man basking in glorious knowledge.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:11 No.6160995
    "And in the Children's tiny hands, the soul of Man is taken from the flames of Life, onto the anvil of the Crafter, working the malleable soul to a more perfect form, fitting to what it has learned, all as ordained by Hyperion, who watches the toil of His children with pride."

    Or something.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:11 No.6161008
    Son's name: Hagran.

    Fuck names that lead back to anything from our world. Hagran just sounds bad-ass.

    Also what about creating deities that oppose you, effectively evil deities?

    Yes I'm the guy who wants a god of pestilence.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:12 No.6161018
    Nope, slowly, slowly, when the need arises for more gods, then give them more gods.

    But do not give them everything, vague concepts like Time, Entropy, etc. should be withheld. For now.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:12 No.6161024
    Hyperion and Hephaestus it shall be.

    Hephaestus seems to have formed completely. You feel that he is aware of how he came to be.
    "Greetings, Father."

    >Do you wish to control the whole pantheon or just Hyperion?
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:14 No.6161051
    I'd rather take the twins of Life/Death in the future, IF we'll have them, but Hagran guy would love to have the Smith/Warrior I bet.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:15 No.6161069
    Only Hyperion, but the bonds should be unbreakable. Except for mindshattering shitfuck events.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:15 No.6161075
    Just one for now, so if we screw up we can merrily skip to the next guy
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:16 No.6161094
    >Okay, let's have a vote on Hephaestus vs. Hagran.
    >A divine nemesis is as much a boon to you as an ally. Followers of one god can't possibly deny the existence of his greatest foe. And while such a god would oppose you, as a whole you will attract a far wider range of followers, strengthening both of you.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:18 No.6161133
    A few notes:

    Other gods should always incorporate some manner of praise for Hyperion, tribute of Faith, so to speak, he IS the first anyway.

    Mortal champions for gods always fitting to the god in question.

    Creation of non-human servitors, races that have predesignated mindsets.

    MOAR VESPENE GA- I mean, more followers, we need to get out of this penal colony before the Deep Ones come and eat our people.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:19 No.6161143
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:19 No.6161145
    >Very well. The other deities owe their very existence to you, after all.

    You tell your son when and how he should manifest before Talos. He sees the wisdom in your words and promises to fulfill your will.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:20 No.6161155

    I oppose the creation of a nemesis this early. It would be unfitting that someone can meddle in our plans AND reap benefit for itself while we're barely settled.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:21 No.6161168
    Now we drink with our son, before having a good punch up. If we're going to be gods with a greek style, lets act like vikings
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:22 No.6161179
    Shadow lady of the scrying, ash, future, fate and death who guides lost souls back to you.
    You judge them and hand them over to Hephaestus to shape into new form.
    Lady of light who gives birth to life, dreams, song and inspiration she brings the newborns into this world.

    They are both your wives and selves and daughters for the threads they weave are the stuff of life itself from which wisdom is gleaned.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:22 No.6161195
    Talos has a sudden urge to create... something. He shall head home and and craft an item of unprecedented craftmanship a sword, or a hammer, and on that item shall be a name written Hephaestus/Hagran. Then a sense of completion shall be his reward, and the knowledge that the Craftsman cares for those who value Skill!

    Or something.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:22 No.6161196
    Hagran is shorter and more manly.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:23 No.6161204
    I laughed.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:24 No.6161220
    It needs to be engraved with our symbol or some varation thereof
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:25 No.6161232
    I proposed something similar just with trap child twins and simply Life/Death.

    Lesser portfolios out of our hand, the more control we have over the pantheon. Latter they could be enhanced should the need arise.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:26 No.6161245
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:29 No.6161282
    >It seems the majority favours Hephaeastus over Hagran.

    You don't actually have anything resembling a human body, and neither does Hephaeastus, due to the teachings you imparted on Plato.

    >All in favour?
    >> Aspect of Fire 10/06/09(Tue)17:30 No.6161291
    I concure, Hagron is more manly.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:31 No.6161309
    Nay due to "They are both your wives and selves and daughters" being more cheesy then my traps.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:32 No.6161317
    Nay due to "They are both your wives and selves and daughters" being more cheesy then my traps. And again, create them when the need arises from the mortals. No need to rush, faith should concentrate on Hyperion for now. Latter the family can grow.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:33 No.6161344
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    Also, pic should be relevant to future nemesis/anti-thesis.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:35 No.6161368
    It shall be so. Subtly influencing a single mind turns out to be quite simple with your newfound power.

    Likewise, implanting the image of your holy symbol in his mind is child's play.

    On the other hand, it seems you focused too much on this task. You can no longer sense your vessel in the dark depths of the ocean. This is most worrying.
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)17:36 No.6161381
    I'd prefer The Lady of Misery.

    Fortune, Misfortune, lost souls, misery, etc

    And The Lord of Light

    Life, Dreams, creativity etc
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:36 No.6161382
    As in total blackout or as in transmission severed?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:37 No.6161383
    I concur. Hold off on Life/Death deities until the mortals start asking about it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:38 No.6161398
    What? I saw only one suggestion for Hephaestus, everyone started using it because you used it. Hagran sounds way better (IMO, obviously).

    I also support the "two wives" idea, however we should introduce them then the need arises.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:38 No.6161401
    >How about having him use both names? Hephaestus the Blacksmith and Hagran the Warrior?

    >All things considered, traps are superior. Still, when the need arises, we shall determine the details.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:39 No.6161407
    Inb4 cthulhu.
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)17:39 No.6161409
    I think we should look at building a temple, to solidify the peoples' faith in us.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:40 No.6161423
    I am fine with this. Aye!
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)17:40 No.6161424
    hell yeah, polygimous society. On a related note, are we just going to have multiple wives to a man, or be even handed and allow wives multiple husbands.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:40 No.6161426
    Too wide. First of all, currently we only have a few followers, secondly too many things broken up with too many gods, different emotions, different faces of the same thing, etc.

    Slow and steady, also I propose that with time Hyperion becomes the god of the higher concepts (time, reality, entropy, fate, etc.), while the children do their craft as he plans.
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)17:40 No.6161428
    Stoneheart The Warrior.

    After thousands of battles, he cares little for the lives of the enemy. Thus, the name.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:42 No.6161440
    We should also consider contemplating our own existence as well. Great power can be gleaned if we understand ourselves and our limits more.
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)17:42 No.6161443
    Concur'd. Fuck off with the pantheon for now, then.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:43 No.6161456
    >Well, there was >>6161155 and >>6161179 and I missed >>6161196
    >On second thought, Hagran is easier to type, so let's go with that.

    Transmission severed. Perhaps some large predator devoured it?
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:43 No.6161462
    I should have said "WHAT IS A GOD? A MISERABLE PILE OF ??? PROFIT!"
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:44 No.6161478
    Ask Plato about the sea and its creatures. And hope he knows something reassuring.
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)17:44 No.6161481
    I'm still all for building a temple.

    That would make services and conversion hella easier.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:45 No.6161490
    Not with the 'kind of hostile' guards around.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:45 No.6161494
    Alright, big mean things live in the ocean. No more exploring there till we get more powerful.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:46 No.6161501
    This gets me thinking. Whatever our nemesis becomes/represents, I'm thinking it should be similar in appearance to your typical Lovecraftian horror.

    Also, while our current forms are due to our early influence with Plato, are they mutable by beliefs? For example, if people started characterizing Hephaestus/Hagron as a giant viking, would his form become that of a giant viking?
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:47 No.6161516
    Future god of mindless chaos fits like a charm, me thinks.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:48 No.6161525
    >supposed to be a god of knowledge
    >asking your followers about things

    I dunno, seems like that might cause him to doubt our allknowingness. And I doubt he knows a lot about the ocean depths anyways.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:48 No.6161527
    I support this with correction - they should be one god. For now, introduce him as Hephaestus, however if (when) conflict arises, tell them story how when war came Hephaestus, god of strength, smithy and skill at craft forged himself a fearsome mask of great beast from blackest iron (and yada yada), put it on and became Hagran, the fearsome god of might, war and skill at arms. Maybe have a tradition of warriors making ceremonials masks for themselves.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:48 No.6161536
    What do we know about these guards?
    >> Otalp 10/06/09(Tue)17:50 No.6161548
    Hey villagers, I know Plato is cool and all. But I went into the country and I heard this dude's voice. He said Plato is lying and we should all worship him instead.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:50 No.6161560
    You begin contemplating your nature and existance.
    Clearly, your power is drawn from the humans who believe in you. You could be considered a "focus" of some sort for their faith, unifying the dozens of individual beliefs, each slightly different, into a single powerful force.
    The power of faith allows you to contact your worshippers.

    However, when you created the staff and the companion for Andreus, and when you shaped your vessel, you drew upon a different kind of power, coming from an outside source. You are uncertain of its nature, but you are able to control it instinctively.

    Incidentally, you feel you have enough power at your disposal to investigate the mysterious source of new souls.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:51 No.6161561
    ...You have a point I guess, for a second I thought that Plato is 100%-no-matter-what our worshiper. Also we could do it cunningly "Tell me Plato, do you know what lurks in the depths of the sea, and in the depths of your legends?" then if he doesn't, we wise-ass ourselves out of it "And when you will know, you shall be ready to bla bla bla PROMOTION"
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)17:51 No.6161568
    I dunno, I think a better nemisis would be a consperitorial god. Not dedicated to the destruction of knowledge, but the hoarding of it. We bring knowledge to all with our glorious light. They will take what knowledge they can from others, but give nothing back.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:52 No.6161579
    What does this button do?

    Check out the source, its extremely relevant.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:53 No.6161589
    >Incidentally, you feel you have enough power at your disposal to investigate the mysterious source of new souls.

    Then what are we waiting for? forget the seas for now.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:53 No.6161598

    Investigate source of new souls! This could help us create a better answer of where consciousness comes from, or additionally may allow us to create "artificial" life (creating fire golems and other cool shit).
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:54 No.6161606

    By all means, investigate.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)17:57 No.6161643
    You are able to draw upon his knowledge without asking him or even letting him know. Unfortunately, none of your followers knows much about the creatures of the sea. Fish, otters, crabs. A tale about large, aggresive fish serves as a warning to children, so that they wouldn't attempt to swim out into the ocean.

    They possess weapons made of metal and thick leather clothing. They are beyond your influence, as they seem to be dedicated to an unknown cause, presumably the Masters. Most of them are physically strong, ill-tempered and aggresive. Their main job is enforcing the tribute which all villages must pay - typically in crops.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)17:57 No.6161652

    This sounds great...We're all about spreading knowledge, and down the road, the nemesis wants to keep all knowledge in a cabal, perhaps to enslave everyone else?
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)17:57 No.6161653

    I want to check out SOULS! Also, contact some worshippers, and ask 'em how we can help them?
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)17:59 No.6161667
    You mean, ask what they wish for, amaright?
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)18:01 No.6161691
    Yeah, and make their lives a bit easier, in return for unquestioning faith.

    Get more devout followers in return for some nice deeds.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:02 No.6161720
    Will you guys shut the fuck up about enemy gods.

    The majority don't want to deal with that now, and you're taking up space in this thread and slowing down progress.

    Anyway, get Andreus and Talos to keep spreading our word through the village. The alphabet too. Talos should be inspired by our son and begin crafting things in secret. Things to aid the villages first off. Better farm equipment, etc.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:03 No.6161732
    We shouldn't ask for what's wanted. We should deliver what is needed. If we have to ask, then we clearly aren't omnipotent.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:05 No.6161763
    Asking for what they want is simply a nice divine gesture towards the mortals, if we simply gave them by this and that, they might not understand/know that actually, we are behind stuff.

    Of course, mass mind read, give what they want and then "BEHOLD" could work as well. But now, back to eager waiting.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:07 No.6161775
    With great effort, you pierce the boundary between the material world and the source of souls.
    Your divine senses begin to analyze the source.
    It turns out to be an infinite, featureless space. Mortal eyes would register it as white. It is teeming with soul-stuff, unshaped and inactive.
    Once again, you are forced to reevaluate your observations. You finally find a single point of interest in this place. It is a great structure of blue, semitransparent crystal. Within here, consciousness is formed, though the process is incomprehensible to you. A newborn consciousness gathers soul-stuff around it and forms a soul, which then travels to the material plane.
    You sense that the crystal structure somehow knows when and where each soul should appear. It seems to be a part of a greater design.
    >> DA BOSS !l0Ve65SXyU 10/06/09(Tue)18:07 No.6161777
    I'm all for the mass mind read/mass miracle/gift BEHOLD idea.

    Holy shit that's great
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:07 No.6161784
    agreed, we need to reward the true believers with what the need/want
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:08 No.6161791
    Some simple, domain-related miracles would be best for now. Eg. someone is trying to remember or find something out, a scroll containing the information is in their palm without their noticing, that sort of thing.

    In fact, all miracles could be like that. Rather than giving things, bestow the knowlege of their creation upon the appropriate craftsman.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:08 No.6161793
    A greater design implies a greater designer.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:10 No.6161813
    Talos' example convinced everyone in the village to pray to you. Answering those prayers is an easy matter, you do not need to focus on it.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:10 No.6161814
    Hmmm hmmm hmmm...

    Not much we can do with it at this level then?

    Hmmm... make a note to CLOSELY observe a mortal death, to see what the soul does/reacts to death. Etc.

    Wonder what the crystal thing is. More details perhaps? Could it be sentient (since it creates it?)
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:10 No.6161821
    Back in our home village, inform them of our Son in a way befitting. The creation of more advanced equipment. Combined with our knowledge. Like I said, better plows and shit. Better designed buildings. Things like that.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:11 No.6161829
    Very well, you shall act in this manner.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:11 No.6161834
    Can we fast forward a bit until our religion takes more of a hold in these two villages, and our actions influence/help them more?
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:12 No.6161849
    Question is how much is that 'bit', we have a lot to do. And more to think about.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:13 No.6161858
    I assume that these two villages are on the same island.

    We should start spreading to the rest of the island. Once we have our religion full entrenched with the people, we should unite them with more developed trade and all that, eventually giving them the knowledge and capability to overthrow the guards and turn the island into their own.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:13 No.6161862
    At the first opportunity, you observe a soul's fate after death. It stays in the material world for a while, but when the soul-stuff is completely separated from the consciousness (the soul "fades away"), the latter returns to the source and seems to merge with the crystal structure.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:14 No.6161865
    I say we fast forward to here. Spreading out to other villages on our island, as well as improving our current villages with our knowledge and our son's creation.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:16 No.6161880
    ...Is it possible to make contact with the structure, to... sample (FEED) on the mass of consciousness?

    Soul fades away? SUCH WASTE, when we'll have gods of life/death, we shall address that mater more carefully.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:17 No.6161897
    I figure, based on how this has gone so far, if we will it, it becomes so.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:17 No.6161898
    Personally, I think keeping close tabs while we're still establishing a foothold is best.

    I like the idea of knowlege as divine gifts/ miracles. For instance, the plough of a farmer breaks, and is taken to the local blacksmith for repair. When the smith goes to work on it, he finds the forge is already burning and hot, and as he notices that, realises that that the techniques for creating better iron/ tools are already in his mind.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:18 No.6161906
    We are god of knowledge, and thus we wish to learn and to know.

    Ask our followers what they know of the guards and whom they serve. In the likely event that they don't know that much, it would be beneficial influence them to learn more about them. A cult of infiltrators springs to mind, yet that seems a bit excessive. We want them to find out what they can without going out of their way or risking themselves... for now.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:19 No.6161911
    The consciousness is "recycled", it seems. It's quite similar to your teachings of reincarnation. Or perhaps the structure contains all minds already dead and those yet unborn.
    You attempt everything that you can think of, except for direct violence, but the structure doesn't react in any way.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:19 No.6161914
    I suggest waiting to overthrow the guard until we get a more complete idea of their capabilities are. We wouldn't want our followers to successfully claim independence from them only to crushed by the combined might of the guards from nearby islands. Or a anti-revolution response force or something.

    I'd also like our faith to spread to multiple islands before we try anything drastic.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:19 No.6161918
    Why don't you read the fucking thread.

    We already know what our followers know. It's an intuitive thing.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:20 No.6161923
    conciousness disappears? And all the knowledge gained in a life is gone. This doesn't sound like it would hold well with a god of knowledge. Can we salvage conciousness?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:20 No.6161932
    It's still an unknown to us and beyond our control. Let's focus on the mortal plane for now.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:22 No.6161945
    Yes, but until Reality tells us what we want, we won't actually know damn you.

    Hmmm... anything that hints at other devices, other 'divine realms' or functions? Since the crystal thing is only a part of... something.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:23 No.6161950
    Indeed, you can prevent a consciousness from merging with the structure. While you're at it, you probe the mind. It seems to be unaware of what's happening. It perceives nothing and most certainly has no influence on the process of merging.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:23 No.6161951
    He already told us everything they know about the guards. God damn, read the fucking thread.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:23 No.6161957
    lets examine this structure more closely
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:24 No.6161959
    Not yet, not from the outside, we will have to learn how to manipulate the whole system with the crystal thing. Much more efficient, more safe, more satisfying.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:27 No.6161991
    We don't know the number of villages, the number of guards, the true nature of the Masters, etc.

    We. Must. Learn. MOAR.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:28 No.6161995
    so we can take people to a heaven like area if we wanted to. Reincarnation would probably be more difficult as we would have to compete with the device.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:30 No.6162008
    The device is a reincarnation machine. What bothers me is:

    1. Soulstuff goes poof! after death, we will have to address that, learn its properties and what we can do with it.

    2. What does the crystal do with the knowledge it consumes.

    3. Can we take over like the Russians?
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:30 No.6162013
    >That has been said a few times by now. I gave you all information that you could find.

    Judging by the fact that soul-stuff is constantly flowing from the source to the material world, an opposite force most likely exists. Otherwise the world would be flooded with soul-stuff by now.

    >Back to the material plane, timeskip to something interesting.
    Andreus is leading a group prayer in the communal dwelling, confident that the guards are busy drinking.
    Unfortunately, he is wrong. The guards, led by some cloaked figure, are preparing to enter the dwelling and catch the villagers red-handed.
    You do not know how they learned of your religion.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:31 No.6162022
    Send a message to all of our followers. They need to change their prayer into a discussion on how to improve their farming yield.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:32 No.6162030
    Mindrape guards to find out?
    Ask our child to give the villagers SKILL WITH ARMS AND TOOLS OF DEATH, etc. I hope they had weapons with them.

    Or ask Hagran to take the guard's skill away.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:32 No.6162031
    And disguise his staff to look like a simple hoe or similar farming implement. Or the Moses route, and look like just another walking stick.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:32 No.6162032
    Yes it's a reincarnation machine
    but not in the sense of coming back with old memories, which seems like the sort of thing we would do to some of our followers particularly dedicated to knowledge

    if the crystal takes the knowledge. just imagine the secrets it contains.

    At some point we will have to find out more, but for now, it seems beyond our reach. Lets focus on cementing belief.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:34 No.6162047
    alert our followers to this intrusion and give them the knowledge of the quickest escape route. also, check if we can infultrate the minds of one or more of the intruders
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:34 No.6162048
    Work together with Hagran to give our followers the knowledge and ability to implement improvised weapons.

    If disguising the meeting doesn't work, and they have to fight, they need to have the ability to fight effectively.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:35 No.6162057
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    Idea for once we have a better understanding of this "consciousness generator," for lack of a better term.

    Collect the souls of the dead and combine them into a collective state of existence. All the knowledge, memories, and experiences of the individuals coming together. It will become a living database which we can draw upon or give our greatest living followers access to.

    It will become a Supreme Intelligence, as it were.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:36 No.6162062
    >Okay, my bad. Finding the answer to the first two questions is definitely within your capabilities.
    On this island there is a total of seven villages and two towns. That amounts to approximately seven hundred people, including a hundred guards.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:36 No.6162065
    We already are a supreme intelligence.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:36 No.6162068
    see if we can fuck with the gaurds heads!
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:37 No.6162072
    Once we deal with these guards, either tricking them or fighting them if needed, start spreading to the other towns and villages on this island. We need to be known across the entire land.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:38 No.6162075
    but really fuck with them, make them forget how to move their right leg or something stupid
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:38 No.6162080
    Going with the disguise/trickery idea, could we use our power to make some kind of illusion to that effect? Make it look like the people are doing something mundane.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:39 No.6162085
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    I can already hear it. The clatter of industry and the clash of swords. And the hymns, the hymns that shall be sang~


    And then... (pic relevant)
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:39 No.6162092
    Actually it sits well with our "spread the knowledge" policy. You have to learn, improve that knowledge, then share it with other people, so they can improve it, etc... And depending on how much you contributed, your reincarnation depends.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:40 No.6162101
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    this is what is in the ocean
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:40 No.6162104
    You alert your followers and help them disguise their activities.

    Should the disguise fail, your followers are ready to face the guards in combat. With Hagran's blessing and superior numbers (forty villagers, six guards and the hooded figure) they should manage to defeat them.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:41 No.6162108
    Disguise trickery would make for the best reading in some eventual holy book. The guards enter while our followers are praying but see nothing out of the ordinary. They investigate for some time but are unable to find anything suspicious, while all the time out followers are simply continuing to pray.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:41 No.6162109
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:41 No.6162111
    I dunno why some people are asking to see if we can fuck with the guards heads. It's been established they are beyond our influence.

    Inform your followers that the guards are coming, fake a meeting about something else and disguise the staff.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:42 No.6162112
    What hooded figure?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:43 No.6162132
    get in the gaurds minds!
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:44 No.6162135
    Our preacher.

    Commence the shenanigans!
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:44 No.6162142
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:45 No.6162148

    The one described here >>6162013
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:46 No.6162154
    They are still beyond your direct influence.

    The hooded person enters the communal dwelling, followed closely by the guards.
    "Now, now. What do we have here?"
    The voice is shrill and rasp.
    "Why have you all gathered here?"

    Andreus silently prays to you for advice.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:46 No.6162155
    I hope the otter is all right.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:46 No.6162167
    Well obviously they're welcoming the new man Andreus to their village.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:47 No.6162169

    A snitch who's brought the guards to break up our prayer-meeting.

    Given the way the villagers across the island outnumber the guards, it's fair to assume that the guards have access to heavy support from across the sea - enough to keep the local islanders cowed, at least.

    Be cautious.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:47 No.6162180
    >Mentioned in >>6162013 as... cloaked figure, oops. Well, cloaked, hooded, same thing. The leader of the guards.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:48 No.6162182
    >communal dwelling,
    >"Why have you all gathered here?"

    Uh, they're just dwelling.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:48 No.6162191
    This has some merit:

    I fear for our preacher.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:49 No.6162196
    Then I want the villagers to, carefully, try and learn more. God damn, read my fucking post.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:49 No.6162198

    He's been sent here because of "inbreeding" problems in his home village. Since he's from another village, the locals are checking him out to see how eligible he is, and whether he'd make a good match for any of their daughters.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:50 No.6162205
    this one. i like it
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:52 No.6162227
    Be honest, you like the inbreeding part. :3
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:53 No.6162229
    "Oh, I see. And he is most certainly not... teaching you some blasphemies, is he? We are all faithful servants of the Masters, are we not?"
    The figure takes off its hood, revealing a pale, androgynous face with sharp features and pointed ears. It is bald, but the skin of its head is covered in tattoos.
    "Are. We. Not?"
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:53 No.6162237

    I like this, make it some kind of initiation-into-the-village type deal.

    Have Andreas say how he was explaining how to use his hoe properly on which plants and what season, etc. Imply that this new knowledge will help the villagers meet the farm tax?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:53 No.6162238

    This is a good one, go with that.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:55 No.6162251
    Oh boy here we go... inb4magic

    We mentally prepare ourselves to use whatever godly powers we have if things turn ugly.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:55 No.6162254
    "Of course, the masters are very, knowledgeable."
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:55 No.6162255
    The villagers are taken aback by the sight of this... thing. Andreus, however, continues explaining.
    "Fascinating. Would you mind giving me... a little demonstration?"
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:55 No.6162256
    Kill that motherfucker.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:56 No.6162261

    Have Andreus say some bullshit about how the Masters have always kept them safe, blah blah blah.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:56 No.6162262

    That this guy has an inkling of what's going on means that either he's been tipped off by the guards at the home village, or there's someone in this village who's ratted us out, or his affiliation with the Masters grants him some kind of blasphemy-detecting powers.

    Checking the villagers' knowledge, do any of them recognise this guy or know anything more about him?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:56 No.6162265
    Our godly powers are knowledge-based. Clearly, we'll give our loyal servant MacGyver-esque intution.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:56 No.6162266
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:57 No.6162273

    Our priests become MacGuyvers.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)18:57 No.6162275
    Beef up our guy with whatever Flame we have and... well.. get him in the oven.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:57 No.6162276

    Bestow the appropriate knowledge upon Andreus so he can effectively give a demonstration.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:58 No.6162284

    Paging Hagran the Warrior. Hagran the Warrior to village number two, please. Stand by.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:58 No.6162287

    Our good man Dre brings the weird guy outside to demonstrate proper hoeing technique? Keep up the farming lie.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)18:58 No.6162292
    The guards at Plato's village are still oblivious, so that cannot be the matter. You probe the minds of the villagers. Not one among them betrayed your cause, and nobody recognizes the creature standing before Andreus. You suspect blasphemy-detecting powers.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:59 No.6162296
    wait. have we shielded our followers the same way the masters have shielded theirs? we dont want those soggy motherfuckers parading around in anyones skull
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)18:59 No.6162299
    No, we should stay low for now.

    We are clearly a contemplate deity as opposed to a rash one. We need to know more about what is going on before we act. We can still revert to sudden violent action later if the situation calls for it.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:00 No.6162308
    Seconding MacGuyver powers. There is nothing our subjects can't turn to their advantage with the power of inventive knowledge.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:00 No.6162312
    I aprove
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)19:00 No.6162316

    I think we have our Masters, and with them our targets of future genocide.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:01 No.6162319
    >>6162276 here

    given blasphemy detecting powers I withdraw my idea. I hope Andreus knows how to give a proper hoeing demonstration already.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:01 No.6162320
    Macgyver our priests. Only our real priests, like Plato and Andreus.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:02 No.6162333
    If he becomes a MacGyver, then it won't be us interfering, it will be him doing it himself.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)19:02 No.6162338
    I don't think or fishy friend actually wants a hoe demonstration.... Oh well, lets see how this turns out.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:03 No.6162348
    The tattoos on this guy. They've got to be some kind of holy symbols.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:03 No.6162352
    We are the god of invention and knowledge, after all. Even if we do not directly influence our followers, their deeds are due to our favor.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:03 No.6162360
    Regardless, Andreus has to do something. Use his MacGyver skills, which we give him, to do something. Have the rest of the villagers come out too, ready to fuck these fuckers up if the need arises.
    >> Reality 10/06/09(Tue)19:05 No.6162372
    You decide to continue the deception, however ineffective it may turn out to be. The "hoe", however, is a staff, which makes using it in an appropriate manner difficult.
    Nevertheless, Andreus does his best to demonstrate the proper techniques of farming.
    "Splendid. Truly splendid."
    The thing smiles slowly.
    "When did you discover that you can use the Art?"
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:05 No.6162377
    OP, maybe you should trip up.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:05 No.6162382
    While the guards and the Heretic-Sniffer are well outnumbered (not to mention at least some of them are probably drunk), kicking off a fight here would be ill-advised until we know more about the Masters and their representatives.

    We don't want to liberate the island only for the horizon to turn black with sails coming to see what happened to the grain tithes.

    We are all about the knowledge, but we are also about wisdom, and acting with insufficient knowledge is unwise.

    Hoe away, young Andreus.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:07 No.6162393
    Have Andreus inquire to this art.

    Get the rest of the villagers ready to murder these fucks. Looks like things aren't going to go well.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:08 No.6162410
    >Hm. Guess it won't hurt.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:09 No.6162416
    i think i hear a laser staff a-comin
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:09 No.6162423
    We, being the God, and our son, need to convene. Devise some kind of armor to bestow upon our priest if battle erupts.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:10 No.6162431
    "I would hardly call it art, it is but a simple technique to prepare the earth for seeds. If you know more ways to make our farms better we would be greatful for your experience."
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:10 No.6162433
    Yeah, some kind of chainmail of the holy flame or something. Magicked upon him as a gift if shit hits the fan.

    Get Hagran on this shit. STAT.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:11 No.6162444
    I like this. Total ignorance.

    But still, get the rest ready to fuck these dudes up. It may come to it still.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:12 No.6162447
    Aditionaly if any of our villigers paint/sculpt we should point to them as the best examples of art we have.
    Make sure we never capitilise art unless its at the start of a sentence.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:12 No.6162452
    "The Art. Or, as you primitives probably call it, magic. I can smell it upon you, boy. Now, be reasonable. I'm sure the power might've gone to your head. Perhaps you considered yourself equal to the Masters? Worthy of worship from the lesser beings?"
    The creature laughs.
    "We ALL live to serve and you'll do well to remember that. Show humility and you will be spared. You will come with me to receive proper training in the ways of the Art."
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:12 No.6162454
    shit, shit, ok what do we know about "the art" that we can tell our follower? if he asks the monster thing then it'll be fairly apparent it isnt the art he is using
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:13 No.6162459

    Hagran needs to make this armor for our boy Dre.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:14 No.6162465
    Hagran begins work immediately. In but a single moment, the armor is ready, though your son seems to be exhausted by the effort.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:14 No.6162467
    ok we need to focus hardcore on him so the masters cant block him from us
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)19:14 No.6162471
    Magic eh?
    Kill it, give whatever knowledge of flame we can to our young friend and have him torch the bastard if it tries something, but at the same time, we should milk more information out of it if we can.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:15 No.6162478
    "I serve no one. I seek only knowledge and the betterment of me and my people. I will not go with you." If he's about to get fucked by this albino, magic some special holy armor on him. Then have him use his fire staff against these fucks.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:15 No.6162480
    the fire otter bites him and sets his fishy hide a-burning
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:15 No.6162484
    Give it to Talos, with the decree to protect whatever it is.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:15 No.6162486
    also we need to let one of villagers know silently that they have been made second in command, just in case our boy doesnt return from the masters
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:15 No.6162491
    Thank him. A good pat on the back. "I am proud of you, my son."

    Get ready to put that shit on our boy.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:16 No.6162493
    Alright two options, we can feighn a psuedo ignorance but be humble and go (esentialy work toward a subconsous or unintended use of "magic"). This will give us a man on the inside to learn more of the "masters".

    Or we can defend our man and start open conflict, with all the risks that entails.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:16 No.6162498

    Have andreus comply, apparantly tattoo boy thinks he's a rogue magician with a bit of an ego. Having Andreus learn the arts is an outstanding opportunity to learn more about the masters. Tell andreus to view it a a learning experience.

    Also, preferably when tattoboy isn't nearby, bestow some actual magical talent upon andreus so it doesn't become obvious that he's getting it from an outside source once his training begins.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:16 No.6162502
    You begin to make sense of the creature's words. He took the miracles bestowed upon Andreus for mortal magic. He seems to consider Andreus an untrained, innate talent. And he seeks to convert him to the cause of the Masters. Andreus doesn't need to show any understanding of the Art, as he is probably expected to use it instinctively.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:17 No.6162505
    I figure if Andreus dies, it will severely hamper our faith in this village.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:17 No.6162507
    On the other hand, this could be an opportunity to learn more - find out the Masters' capabilities, learn their secrets, and filter them back to our people. It'd get Andreus on the inside.

    Clearly the Masters have control of these islands by dint of more than metal weapons alone, and that is worrying. There is still too much that is hidden from us.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:19 No.6162520

    Or give us our first martyr.

    As a god of Protection, though, that's not actually all that good a plan. We need to keep him alive, yes.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:19 No.6162526
    If we send Andreus with this man, we could learn about these masters yes, and their magic.

    But they could likewise learn about us. Andreus' faith seems strong, but he could turn against us and become an enemy.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:21 No.6162538

    Said authority comes from the masters obviously.
    >> Blackheart 10/06/09(Tue)19:21 No.6162547

    Sadly, I must retire. My only wish is that this will continue when I awake from my torpor. And that trap twin death/life gods etc. :3
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:22 No.6162554

    This could work. Subtly antagonising them into a fight also provides an opportunity to drop some miraculous armor on Andreus, which'll likely guarantee us the worship of this village. And more power with it.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:22 No.6162555
    "Don't be arrogant, boy. You either die here and now or you come with me. You will receive all the knowledge that you could ever dream of. Perhaps one day you will be allowed to return to your people."
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:22 No.6162558
    it sounds like magic is an inate ability similar to the way we channel power from some source to work our divine will but do not know how we do this or from where the power flows. i dont think our boy can learn magic if he doesnt have the talent.

    have him decline and promise to remain humble from now on
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:23 No.6162565
    But we already give him knowledge. But this does remind me of Horus.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:23 No.6162566
    Fuck this guy. If we gain knowledge it will be our own. Not some subversive Master bullshit.

    Drop the armor to Andreus. Let him unload his fire staff on whiteskin.

    Get the villagers ready to strike down the guards IF they want a fight.

    Seeing this white dude get roasted might convert them to us.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:24 No.6162568
    I think Andreus needs to go, but we need to keep a close eye and focus on him at all times. Remind him that we are still here and that we simply want him to learn about the enemy for himself in a peaceful manner. No need to implicate the fact that we don't know anything ourselves.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:24 No.6162572

    armor him up and kick some fishy ass with staff lasers
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:24 No.6162577
    shit get the armour on him and put a lot of effort into keeping track of him. maybe the armour will help block the masters influence and allow us to focus on him more clearly
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:25 No.6162578
    Please have him go. Fighting will only turn things to shit. We can always bust him out later.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:25 No.6162579
    Yeah! And if they convert, then we not only get men who can fight and train, then we get their knowledge of the masters!
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:25 No.6162582
    Wait, that's it. The power you channel and the power used by the Art are either one and the same or something extremely similar.
    Perhaps you could serve as a conduit between the source of this power and Andreus, allowing him to use it instead of using it yourself.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:26 No.6162594

    This, plus some divine radiance and generally impressive special effects. A halo of spiritual fire upon his brow, his skin suffused with the light of understanding, that kind of thing.

    He is a servant of the Secret Fire.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:26 No.6162595
    I vote let him go. Invest words of faith in him that this is merely like a journey of learning and that we will stay with him at all times, even when it is not apparent.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:27 No.6162596
    Hey OP, about how long till you think we could manage a physical avatar of some kind? At least on a temporary basis.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:28 No.6162602
    My railroading sense is tingling.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:28 No.6162606
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:28 No.6162608

    Alright, do we want Andreus to comply and possibly learn a lot about the masters or do we think the risk of him betraying us and ratting our existence out is too great?

    If we let him refuse he'll die and tattooboy will be satisfied and leave. But that will seriously discredit our status as a god of protection.

    Our third option is to make a stand but I'm worried that even if we manage to defeat this guy and his cronies the masters might send a much bigger force to retaliate.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:28 No.6162610
    we arent powerfull enough to take on the masters, hell we arent even powerfull enough to take on the gaurds yet. armour him up and keep an eye on him. given that he will have 2 artifacts with him and is devoted to us it should be easy to remain in his mind even when he is in the master's presence.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:29 No.6162627
    It's not railroading, really. If anything it's similar to what I do with my players when they are about to do something exceedingly stupid and out of character. I give them more time to think about it, is all.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:30 No.6162630
    Give him the ability to do magic on his own. PLUS MacGyver skills.

    And infuse a bit of ourselves in him, like we did with the otter, so that we can keep track of him and learn what he learns, as he learns it.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:30 No.6162631
    We tell our prophit that he may go if he wishes, or he may stay, we will protect him and the villiage whatever he Chooses (we promote free will correct?)
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:30 No.6162639
    >Depends on how powerful an avatar you want. You gain power at a fixed rate. If you spend more than you gain to sustain the avatar, you'll eventually run dry. Limiting yourself to a weak form will let you keep it up indefinitely.

    >Okay, let's have a vote on the fight/go issue.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:30 No.6162641
    I'm conflicted. On the one hand, sending Andreus with the Heretic-Sniffer risks exposing our existence to the Masters, for all that it gives a chance of learning more about them.

    On the other hand, overthrowing the local garrison without having a better idea of the capabilities of the Masters and their minions risks having our asses stomped into the dirt when they show up with ships full of Art-wielders and soldiers, unless we're really freakin' good at consolidating our power base and either fortifying the island or spreading the flame of rebellion out across the sea.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:31 No.6162643
    I vote we go with this, and support him to the best of our ability with whichever choice he makes.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:31 No.6162646
    The votes for "Tell Andreus to go with this strange man." is piling up. But we need to keep a close eye on him, like we said already.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:32 No.6162656
    We are basically a non-violence god, being contemplative and protective. Violence does no good, but we do have the power to protect Andreus at a later stage should things get sour, and then we risk none of the villagers.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:33 No.6162663
    Vote: Go. Don't fight.

    We're not a god of war guys.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:34 No.6162670
    I think it's time we birth a new son.

    God of stealth and secrets. He would be in charge of creating spies for us.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:34 No.6162671
    I vote we ask our boy Dre if he's willing to accept the task of going with these strange people to learn of them for his god. Possibly we can implant a splinter of our consciousness in him or something to keep an eye on him.

    "My prophet, it seems you have reached a crossroad much earlier than had been anticipated. I know of the se Masters of which have been spoken, but I do not KNOW them as I KNOW the rest of this world, save that they lurk in the dark shadows of the deeps where no light may penetrate, and from which no knowlege may escape. You must choose, now: will you take my divine spirit unto yourself and learn to KNOW this enemy as I may KNOW them? Or will you entrust this place to my cleansing fire, and lead our foes into the light of day? Both paths are fraught with peril, and none will think less of you for choosing one over the other. But you must choose, quickly!"

    Surely we can get a quick communion with our prophet without the tattoo boy noticing.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:34 No.6162672
    thats it. make him an avatar of our power! with his new found power and our gift of armour he will be more than capable of remaining true to us despite the master's shady dealings
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:34 No.6162676
    I vote go with the bald guy, but have Andreus hand the staff over to one of the local villagers, "until he returns". One of the brighter ones who shows the potential to be a useful priest in Andreus' absence.

    That way, whether Andreus returns or not, it's a potent relic of our faith to keep the locals believing.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:35 No.6162687
    this this this!!!
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:36 No.6162698
    This and this.

    Make Andreus an avatar of ourself, and give the staff to another in the village.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:36 No.6162701
    Let Andreus go with them, we shall be by his side, and learn from these Masteres.

    Even if they find it out, we will know something about them. It is better then nothing.

    We can keep up the illusion that our man has a talent, and help him in his learnings.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:36 No.6162702
    I'm voting that Andreus should go with the guy. Mainly because I seriously fucking doubt we can win a war with the masters at this stage.

    A third option is to let the tattooman kill andreus and not have the villagers fight back, preserving our secret and avoiding any conflict with the masters, though we will have to change our crrent way of doing things to avoid being detected again.
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:37 No.6162710
    >I feel obliged to remind you that it's a "staff with an orb of glass on the top that has a flame suspended within" - evidently a work of the Art. It's unlikely that the bald guy will let Andreus leave such an object behind.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:37 No.6162712
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:37 No.6162713
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:38 No.6162718
    Going with them seems most appropriate; we are a god of knowlege, not war, and this would likely enable us to learn more about who our enemies(?) are.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:39 No.6162723
    Can we hurry this up?

    It's been like, an hour with no progress at all.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:39 No.6162725

    Voting this.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:40 No.6162735


    OK, then the otter can keep a low profile and stay behind, to make contact with the villagers once baldy's gone away again.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:41 No.6162743
    The otter is dead.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:41 No.6162744

    Wut? The pace has been just fine.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:41 No.6162745
    If we let our prophit die we would be required to save/reinstate his soul, which would meen possesion of another person (seams imoral) or we forge a new body for him. Which would be kind of bad ass. He gets killed, the rest of our villiage cowers, hood guy exits, Prophet returns as a creature forged of glass and fire (or an angel or an exeptionly large talking oter, or somthin). Risky though, might be beyond our current power limit
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:41 No.6162746
    Okay I think the votes for going is piling up something fierce now.

    And yeah, we can't leave the staff it it's obvious then. Have Andreus turn to the villagers and thank them.

    We shall invest in him an innate spark of our power at a later date. Preferably at some time when he is alone and can explore it by himself.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:45 No.6162774
    New thread?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:46 No.6162777
    Why bother with a leaving behind a relic or something? We can directly communicate with our followers, isn't that enough? And besides, if we must have a new relic, we can always create a new one once our hooded friend is gone.
    >> Floater Commander 10/06/09(Tue)19:47 No.6162793
    yeah we have been in auto sage for a bit now, would be good idea to make anew thread, and archive this one if it hasnt been already
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:48 No.6162797
    >Very well, all votes are for either going quietly or letting him choose.
    "My lord, you have taught us that knowledge is the greatest good of all. You have chosen me to spread your faith. Who would I be if I wasn't ready to pursue understanding even to those dark depths? You have shown me that there is no place that the flame of knowledge cannot illuminate it. I am ready."

    As you bestow the armor and the gift of Art on Andreus, he speaks aloud: "Very well. I shall go with you."
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:49 No.6162804
    Time for a new thread, OP
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:52 No.6162830
    new thread time op
    >> Reality !ta922ttXCI 10/06/09(Tue)19:52 No.6162834
    >Actually, I think I should get some sleep. Sorry, everyone, but that's it for today. Will someone archive?
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:54 No.6162848
    Archival has been done.

    Looking forward to the next one.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:54 No.6162851

    Anyway, we'll need to deal with any fallout at the village next time.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:54 No.6162854
    Good go OP, good go. One of the better quest threads since ever.
    >> Anonymous 10/06/09(Tue)19:57 No.6162879
    get some sleep op. thanks for the adventure

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