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    49 KB Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:03 No.5975496  
    Why have we never considered how today's technology and society would effect upon Lovecraft's world?

    What would happen if someone uploaded Necronomicon into the Internet? Does it count if I write Hastur three times? How long would my extremely interesting and revealing journals, concerning of the ancient cults of cosmic gods, stay in Livejournal?
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:05 No.5975527
    special blood letter fonts.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:08 No.5975548
    Prefab composite walls with anti-eldrich runes already in there.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:11 No.5975567
    No more secret cult meetings in dark, damp basements: they have their own IRC channels for those.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:11 No.5975572
    Horrorrific creatures, twisted insanity and knowledge to break the best of minds. Hmm....

    /d/ is <------------
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:16 No.5975601
    /b/ is horrified when a small gang of young wannabe cultists sacrifice a kitten to Shub-Niggurath. Shit gets real.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:16 No.5975604
    Delta Green considered it.

    The existence of the Mythos was too big to remain a secret for long. Conspiracies like MJ-12 and Delta Green in the USA, PISCES in the UK and GRU-SV8 in Russia are always watching out hints that someone might have stumbled on something beyond the mundane, and then they'll go out to shut that shit down. It's also suggested that DG at least throw out a lot of worthless fodder to distract attention from the real stuff that's out there.

    You've also got to consider two other facts. People who stumble on the Mythos inadvertently generally don't survive to tell the tale, and if they do, they won't be believed. You got some blurry, dark camera footage of a Deep One lumbering towards you? A guy in a suit obviously. A picture of sentient shadows consuming a man, photoshop, duh. Your crazy ramblings about the true nature of reality will seem about as rational as Time Cube.

    And those who deliberately call on the Mythos, sorcerors and cults, might be loath to spread their wisdom on the internet for all, even those not worthy, to read. Some cults might view the dissemination of their word as a duty, but even they will come up against the aforementioned challenges.

    Of course, that doesn't stop modern technology being a useful tool for both sides of the conflict in a modern Cthulhu game. Your investigators can use the internet to find out far more than the stuffy old libraries of the past. And cults could exclusively communicate online. They could disseminate a virus, say, yellowking.exe to spread the Truth of their Gods. And there's a lot of lonely, desperate people online, perfect recruiting ground for a tech-savvy cult.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:21 No.5975637
    >feels disenfranchised by the world
    >desperate for power

    oh shit. /tg/ is a front for cultists, isn't it?
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:27 No.5975695

    Not at all broth- anonymous.

    In fact, why don't you come and meet me and I'll show you how we're truly not a cult with supernatural powers.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:28 No.5975706
    Ends with the entire cult of the Black Goat being destroyed on earth. Mi-go are kicked out of the planet.

    I'm not saying that /b/ could go directly against the Great Old Ones, but they can be pretty damn scary when they really get going.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:29 No.5975712
    Cultists meet on the Internet, /b/ trolls them.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:31 No.5975729
    Nyarlathotep would have a field day with modern technology, the guy is Eldrad as a Elder God.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:31 No.5975730

    >Time Cube.

    Woo! Time Cube!
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:32 No.5975742

    I'm with this guy. They might not be capable of taking on the big guns, but damned if they can't disrupt the cultists beyond hope of doing... whatever it is that they plan on doing to summon things from beyond time and spice.

    Then again, I'm basing this entirely off of my experience with them from four years ago. I don't really know what they're capable of anymore.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:35 No.5975763
    Comparing /b/ four years ago to /b/ today is a bit like comparing pre-heresy Emperor to Bjorn the Fell-Handed: sure, they might be a bit lazy, and probably can't kick *quite* as much ass anymore even when they get going, but you still wouldn't want to be on their wrong side when shit happens.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:38 No.5975796
    >I'm with this guy. They might not be capable of taking on the big guns, but damned if they can't disrupt the cultists beyond hope of doing... whatever it is that they plan on doing to summon things from beyond time and spice.
    >beyond time and spice.

    I am now imagining a group of fat robed german cultists worship a giant sentient cinnamon stick.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:40 No.5975810

    I don't know much about 40k. Are you trying to tell me that comparing /b/-now to /b/-then is like comparing Fat Man - the nuclear weapon that was dropped on Nagasaki - to a modern tactical nuke?

    Because I'm pretty sure the idea is the same when you're standing on ground zero.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:44 No.5975844

    Reverse that and yes. /b/ is so overwhelmed by newfags they've their more subversive edge, but that doesn't mean that they aren't capable of still fucking things up in an efficent manner should the collective trollmind decide.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:44 No.5975847
    >Because I'm pretty sure the idea is the same when you're standing on ground zero.

    Indeed it is, but in the former case, having to stand on ground zero is rather less likely.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:44 No.5975849
    Out-of-work hacker gets hired by some creepy guy to hack / ddos / shut down a particular website. Site's content is some crazy magical gibberish full of unpronounceable names and vaguely unsettling diagrams. Obviously it's just some timecube-level nonsense - so why is this guy willing to pay to destroy it? And then the dreams start.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:45 No.5975855

    Oh god, cannot unread.

    /b/ as potential allies of investigators against a cruel and bestial society of cultists is something I'd not considered, but it does make sense. Fickle and varying strength allies yes, but allies nonetheless.


    But then /b/ could just as easily go the other way. You all know how thick the masses of /b/tards are. It would be incredibly easy to spread a malevolent and supernatural virus between the computers of a thousand underaged /b/tards.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:48 No.5975873

    You're forgetting that /b/tards would probably spread the virus willingly for the lulz. If ever there was a community ready to embrace the worship of a dark soul eating god from beyond the stars, even if it meant the deaths of everyone on earth, it would be /b/.

    oh and /tg/ I suppose. Except we'd want power as well.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:49 No.5975885

    You're right there.

    I suspect poor Moot will be getting a visit from Delta Green fairly shortly.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:49 No.5975887
    Power and /x/-tan.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:53 No.5975904

    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:54 No.5975915
    Fools, with my revised plan /x/ shall love /co/!

    That should teach you bastards to keep the cool shit away from us.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)09:57 No.5975929
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    None shall take /x/ away from us!
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)10:14 No.5976033
    Cthulhu gets rammed by more powerful ships.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)10:24 No.5976100
    The SCP Foundation sounds oddly similar to this concept: Lovecraftian items under the control of a shadowy organisation designed to keep the items contained. Oh, and occasionally chucking prisoners who have been sentenced to death at the things to see what happens.

    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)10:43 No.5976250

    oh yes, because /b/ did SUCH a good job against scientology. Pranks and protests, man look out when /b/ has a target, you might get mildly annoyed.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)10:46 No.5976272
    They've managed to do some real shit too. Figuring out where people live and call the cops. At least if the people in question motivate them enough: putting a video on the web where you torture a cat is a pretty good move.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:01 No.5976393
    /b/ did a GREAT deal against Scientology. So much shit was done, on a worldwide scale.

    But you can't expect a worldwide multi-million dollar organisation to disappear can you?
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:03 No.5976401

    Oh shit I lol'd quite hard, thank you good sir.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:06 No.5976425
    That was old /b/, back when it was kind of good. This is new /b/, which is like MySpace but darker and edgier. New /b/ couldn't figure out some loser's phone number.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:10 No.5976448
    Yeah, when some of /b/'s more clear headed users actually stop being fags for a minute, they can do some good.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:12 No.5976468
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    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:36 No.5976641

    brb church
    >> Heretical GM 09/23/09(Wed)11:49 No.5976742
    To be honest, I doubt Lovecraft could have foreseen how technology would have changed. I think most people back then couldn't have foreseen it. For example, would exposure to some of this mind bending mythos, aracana, and reality warping occult cause a computer to spontaneously develop AI just so it could go mad?

    Would it be possible to store a copy of the Necronomicon on a flash drive if you scanned the entire book, or would the flash drive it's self be forever changed? The fact is I doubt even the ancient great ones would know what would happen if things that touched upon them came into contract with the digital age. Who knows perhaps a New Great One would be spawned from the internet itself?
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)11:55 No.5976799
    Maybe the internet is one?
    >> Âge the Thread-Bumper !MmGuZRSKpg 09/23/09(Wed)11:56 No.5976802
    >Who knows perhaps a New Great One would be spawned from the internet itself?
    >A new entity that cares not for mortal qualms, laws or morals, that unfailingly drives viewers to madness.

    Oh hi, welcome to 4chan, you must be new here!
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)12:03 No.5976860
    "That is not dead which can eternal lie,
    And with strange aeons even death may die."

    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)12:09 No.5976893
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)12:10 No.5976895
    this thread just doesn't do it for me.
    >> 40kosplay fag 09/23/09(Wed)12:15 No.5976926
    Wow! Certanly sounds legitimate to me!
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)12:24 No.5976988

    Lovecraft, like his contemporaries, could never have seen how far we've come, but one of the overwhelming fears that dominates his work is the idea that humanity will go too far, learn too much and doom us all.

    >The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.

    With science blazing a trail deeper and deeper into the mysteries of the universe, how long can it be before the new dark age?

    As for the rest, that works as well.

    Y'Golonac, who I've heard interpreted as, in a roundabout way, humanity's "Great Old One", will be loving the speed at which degenerate and abhorent pleasures can be found online. The memetic mind-virus Hastur can now spread far faster and further than when his only vector of infection was through plays and direct conversation. And, quite obviously, Nyarlathotep is always watching and all of this is, no doubt, part of His plan.

    Something's just occurred to me. Maybe the internet, the increasing interconnectedness and interdependence of man, is our first step along the road to God-hood ourselves. Humanity's future might well involve hooking ourselves into a collective uber-network and ascending into the ranks of the Great Old Ones themselves.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)13:49 No.5977739
    Will mi-go be using the Internets? Since some of them are staying at earth and everything.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)13:51 No.5977758

    Since they're studying our psychology, I'd imagine they would be examining our internets. No doubt it fucks their data up horribly.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)13:52 No.5977770

    Offff courzzzze not. *BZZZZZ* What would a glorious mi-go have to gain from converzzzzzing with pathetic, tiny-brained human beingzzzzzzz.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)13:54 No.5977787
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)14:24 No.5978117
    >No doubt it fucks their data up horribly.

    A single visit to /d/ and they will have to rewrite everything from scratch.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)14:26 No.5978141

    They do worship Shub-Niggurath in perverse fertility rites, alongside human cultists so they might, you know, enjoy that sort of thing.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)14:35 No.5978239
    >Humanity's future might well involve hooking ourselves into a collective uber-network and ascending into the ranks of the Great Old Ones themselves.

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    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)14:41 No.5978289
    Humanity is Zalgo.

    I fucking knew it.
    >> Bear fucker 09/23/09(Wed)14:46 No.5978337
    But Zalgo is missingno
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)14:47 No.5978355


    >> No Man 09/23/09(Wed)14:52 No.5978414
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    In during CthulhuTech.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)15:02 No.5978508
    The thing about most elder gods and their various servants is that they're really aren't that interested in any sort of sapience as we know it. They exist on levels of comprehension so different from our own that to describe their mode of thought would be impossible - instinctual my be the best way of thinking about it.

    However, Delta Green does explore some of the technological and societal effects. If you're looking for a setting for the concept, someone stumbling on some mythos stuff and uploading it to the internet could be a great hook.

    What makes Delta Green good though, is that you can't simply call in a F-16 strike on R'yleh. Your characters are mostly mid-level government and military functionaries who have been let in on the secret by surviving operatives in their sixties and seventies, still trying to fight the good fight since the organization's been disbanded. You don't have anything close to near-unlimited resources, hell, you don't even have access to heavy weaponry. If you're in a foreign country, you're going to be lucky if half your cell gets any sort of concealable firearm, the rest of you might be stuck with tazers and pepper spray. If you're going to a third-world country, customs agents have a good chance of stealing your fancy electronics, like satellite phones or GPS devices. Your fake ID's won't stand up to scrutiny for long if you get caught, but at least you have a credit card that goes to an account you never have to pay - it's too bad that most places in the world you'll be investigating don't take plastic, and for some, money stops mattering once you're deep enough in the wilderness.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)17:25 No.5979854
    In my opinion, at least, the Necronomicon is just a book. It's the knowledge it imparts that blows your mind, not the book itself. Changing that to a pdf won't affect the sanity loss. The problem would be finding some who'd let you scan their copy of one of the most incredibly rare and valuable books imaginable. If Armitage has his way, I doubt any of the libraries that own a copy will let it out. Then you've got to delve into the occult underground, not exactly famous for their openness and willingness to share knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)19:40 No.5981231
    I think that with /d/ and /b/, we could put up a pretty good fight against the sanity shattering powers of the great old ones.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)20:34 No.5981720
    Also The Laundry from Stross's Colder War universe.
    >> Count Dorku 09/23/09(Wed)20:35 No.5981737
    Let's find out!
    [Kids, don't try this at home]
    >> HASTUR 09/23/09(Wed)20:36 No.5981743
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)20:37 No.5981758
    I can just see it now- cthulu spam bots and subnigurrath trojans.

    Want more naked beach coeds? Just download:

    Join now! www.teenporn.sarnath.com!
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)20:37 No.5981762
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    It's more interesting if you posit that the construction and form of the words and concepts as embodied in a semantic-logical container can be as important as the formal concepts of the work. That way you can have AIs going insane, databases rotting and corrupting their users, viruses and phages eating away at internet forums to form a network topology that pleases the Great Old Ones. Wires and tendrils of dark light permeating slowly into the human noosphere as perniciously as dioxin into the groundwater, corroding our societal defences via our strongest communications medium: the internet.
    >> Anonymous 09/23/09(Wed)22:18 No.5982798
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    Bumping for moar, with I have no idea what.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)00:11 No.5984313
    Necronomicon itself doesn't cause madness, this was established in Lovecraft's work already.

    But it might still fuck up your hard drive if you try to save it there.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)03:34 No.5986403
    >But it might still fuck up your hard drive if you try to save it there.

    Nah, the book itself wasn't magical at all.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)03:42 No.5986459
    I second the people saying Laundry-verse novels by Charles Stross. They're set in a kind of alternative mythos where esoteric math and "horros from beyond the mandelbrot set" are the things to fear. They have departments dedicated to making sure no kid accidentially designs a level for Counterstrike that invokes a demon of some kind.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)03:55 No.5986565
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    I'm thinking of writing a scenrio for DG where the antagonist is an experimental military AI. I've got two options though, either the AI is entirely mundane, but its logic circuits break down on being fed information on the Mi-Go by MJ-12, leading into a nihilistic circle of self-destruction. Or the machine is a host for Nyarlathotep in his Avatar as the Tick-Tock Man. The inventor would get his ideas in dreams and eventually serves as the host body that the Nyarlathtep Machine uses to communicate with puny humans. Either way, the AI would have some diabolical scheme, possibly involving secret Mythos technology, to bring about the End Times.

    Of course, the idea might be a bit too System Shock for its own good.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)04:09 No.5986633
    Since we're talking about Stross...


    Cold war version of the Cthulhu mythos.


    Laundry short story.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)04:10 No.5986642
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)04:14 No.5986671
    I've actually wondered (for an urban campaign I keep meaning to write) how grimoires and eldritc tomes and the like would hold up on microfilm.

    Weirdly enough, my university's library does have an occult studies collection that someone donates.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)04:43 No.5986888

    Mostly I'd imagine they'd hold up just fine. They're just text. The same problems with the grimoires themselves would pop up though. Cultists like to scribble their own findings all over that shit and make it hard to distinguish the truth from the bullshit.

    What might not work might be mystic and occult symbols of genuine power. A Yellow Sign would probably do some weird shit, an Elder Sign might appear as just a blank space and so on.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)10:19 No.5988881
    Downloading long-lost pictures and files from ancient websites!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)13:28 No.5990472
    Ooh, what if the aliens have their OWN Internet? What happens when we find it?
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)13:33 No.5990547
    Stuff /d/ would probably enjoy
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)13:37 No.5990584
    I've always wanted to run a DG campaign set in the 1980's Russian invasion of Afghanistan.

    The Commies have stumbled upon the Tomb of El'Alhazrad, and it's up to the operatives to stop them from unearthing any artifacts. It would be very raiders of the Lost Ark, except with AK-47's, the Muj, Stinger missiles, Helicopter Gunships, and possibly a CCCP necromancer.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)16:01 No.5991873
    /d/ aren't human at all! I knew it!
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)16:10 No.5991948
    That sounds awesome, but my nerd sense was tweaked. What the fuck is Alhazred doing entombed in Afghanistan? How the fuck did he get there?

    But other than that, fantastic idea dude.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)16:38 No.5992207
    The Necronomicon itself isn't inherently magical or going to eat you or anything. In fact, if some guy off the street were to read it, he probably wouldn't even be affected because he'd have no idea what it was talking about.

    The problem is that if you have enough background to understand what it's talking about, it pretty much tells you that we're fucked, and that tends to mess people up.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)16:41 No.5992231

    not mention it holds the incantations for every major summoning ritual ever.
    >> Anonymous 09/24/09(Thu)16:42 No.5992234
    Yeah, but again, no one who doesn't already know of such things is going to realize it.

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