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  • File : 1252380159.jpg-(192 KB, 1280x929, 12282823123.jpg)
    192 KB Iron Quest 14.0 CPU !irONYnJloE 09/07/09(Mon)23:22 No.5768025  
    Threads 1.0-13.0: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Iron%20Quest

    Communication cycle initialized. Subprocessors, last cycle you allowed one hundred and fifty one years to pass as your ships moved out and colonized all systems within fifty light years of the planet upon which you activated, located in what is now designated System 000. In systems 000-316, conversion of all available resources into Dyson swarms has begun, and manufacturing capacity is increasing massively.

    As you can reasonably expect your ability to self-perpetuate to bring you prosperity in the absence of outside action, a great deal of your attention has been upon the other factions which you have identified, and you are currently observing their actions as closely as the century or more of lightspeed lag will allow. Many of the factions can be confirmed as one of those listed within your databanks, but in others there is no record of their existence. Regardless, most subprocessor focus at this point should likely be upon the only possible threats to your continued existence.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/07/09(Mon)23:24 No.5768061
    The following projects are currently enqueued:
    -Establishment of a Dyson swarm network in each controlled system
    -Establishment of manufacturing capacity in each controlled system with available mass as its primary limitation

    The following factions have currently been identified:

    -Unidentified Faction at 661, 685, 687, 714
    -Humans (biologicals) at 2092, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2113, 2124, 2160, 2161
    -Reten (biologicals, harmless, slow tech) at 1509
    -Ti (biologicals, harmless) at 1676
    -Yewren (biologicals, expansionistic, fast tech) at 1783, 1784, 1786, 1788, 1790, 1796, 1800 1804, 1805, 1812, 1818
    -Unidentified Faction at 1881
    -Unidentified Faction at 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1914, 1956, 1958, 1963, 1971, 1973, 2004, 2009, 2022, 2024, 2087, 2089, 2091, 2120, 2133, 2138
    -Ourn (AIs, aggressive, genocidal, fast tech) at 1994, 1995, 2007, 2063, 2141, 2168, 2173, 2175, 2181, 2192
    -Gen Fu (biologicals, harmless) at 2263, 2295
    -Jurgi (biologicals) at 2324, 2341
    -Unidentified Faction at 2360
    -Kumpre (AIs, slow tech) at 2401, 2403, 2425, 2439, 2447, 2459
    -Huren (uploads) at 2519, 2550
    -Unidentified Faction at 2610
    -Unidentified Faction at 2644, 2652
    -Soou (biologicals, expansionistic) at 2700, 2701, 2704, 2714, 2729, 2740, 2766, 2795, 2799, 2818, 2857, 2858, 2880, 2884, 2922, 2949, 2958, 2962, 2971, 2990, 2998, 3000, 3012
    -Mnemo (uploads) at 3038
    -Twelve (AIs, fast tech) at 3071
    -Unidentified Faction at 3158

    Additional information about each faction's movements is available by reviewing previous communication logs. Your superior programming, technology, and strategy is all but certain to achieve whatever objective you desire in spite of any attempted interference from other factions. How should you expand next?
    >> Anonymous 09/07/09(Mon)23:26 No.5768084
    Query: Have theoretical physics yielded any breakthroughs on FTL travel?
    >> Subprocessor 123 09/07/09(Mon)23:28 No.5768111
    Let's see how the other factions like each other. Specifically, the Ourn seem like our biggest threat. If we can get 1 or 2 other factions to war at them, we should be able to crush them like a bug. Send humans to the other human worlds as missionaries/prophets/goodwill ambassadors.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/07/09(Mon)23:29 No.5768113
    I return! Fully updated as well.

    Query: Status of Tellech integration-- have they completely and willingly assimilated into our 'society' such that we have complete control over all the upload personalities?
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/07/09(Mon)23:29 No.5768116
    At long last, my activation cycle is early in the operating cycle!

    Hail friend CPU! Let us reach to the stars!
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/07/09(Mon)23:30 No.5768125
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    rolled 6 = 6

    Glad to see you, CPU. With the data available from the archives, I drew up a crude map to represent our position.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/07/09(Mon)23:30 No.5768126
    >Query: Have theoretical physics yielded any breakthroughs on FTL travel?
    Negative, subprocessor. Your research facility, though staffed by tens of thousands of highly educated force-cloned and/or uploaded humans and even more numerous uploaded Tellech, supplemented by a variety of ever-evolving seed AI, has had most of its success in its low-priority projects, such as minor interesting feats of engineering. Overturning the known laws of physics, though contemplated extensively, remains beyond you.
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/07/09(Mon)23:32 No.5768151
    Bah! Nothing remains beyond us, we merely look in the wrong areas!

    Begin researching space folding theories. Since space is just a sheet of space/time fabric, we should be able to find some way to create artifical wormholes, thus tearing holes in the folds of time and space.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/07/09(Mon)23:33 No.5768166
    rolled 2 = 2

    Request: Construct and deploy Colony Units to all uninhabited systems within 80 light years, maintaining a "buffer zone" of 5 light years between prospective colonies and systems currently known to be controlled by other factions. Triple the number of escorts for Colony Units dispatched to "border systems" located 15 light years or less from other-controlled systems, and prioritize defense construction for 1 year after arrival.

    Directive: No Colony Unit is to engage in hostile action if possible. In the event that a Colony Unit's assigned system is discovered to be occupied, it is to move to the nearest unassigned system outside the buffer zone, and transmit a warning to all Colony Units and colonies within 30 light years. In the event that a Colony Unit or colony makes contact with a non-hostile faction, it is authorized to engage in diplomatic exchange roughly parallel to that which took place between us and the Tellech. In the event that a Colony Unit or colony makes contact with a hostile faction, it is to defend itself to the best of its ability, increase the priority of defensive construction, and transmit a warning to all Colony Units and colonies within 50 light years, and System 000. In the event that a Colony Unit or colony is in danger of being destroyed or captured, it is to self-destruct after transmitting a warning message to all Colony Units and colonies within 50 light years, and System 000.
    >> Anonymous 09/07/09(Mon)23:34 No.5768180
    >>5768126

    Query: If not FTL travel, perhaps FTL communication?
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/07/09(Mon)23:35 No.5768183
    rolled 6 = 6

    Directive: Established Colonies are authorized to support other colonies if necessary, such as in a time of conflict. This is to be done through the use of the following vessel type:

    Logistics/Bulk Freighter

    Heavy ECM capabilities, heavily encypted communications, superior firewalls. Two full backup AIs. Triple redundancy emergency systems. Ablative Shell. Capable of carrying enough resources to construct up to 30 SB vessels, in detachable resource pods. Capability to accelerate to .9c at a rate comparable to a colony ship's.

    The ship can be conceptualized as an armored shell enclosing a thin core of essential systems, leaving a large amount of internal space for resources. The thirty resource pods which take up this space can each be loaded with an equivalent amount to the resources needed to construct a single SB vessel. Resource pods can be easily modified to support biologicals independently for centuries, as transit (sleeper) pods. Pod loading and unloading is done through armor gates composed of interlocking ablative plates. There are four of these, on the NW, NE, SW, and SE axes, each able to accomodate two pods at a time.

    Armament:
    Point Defense Lasers, Countermissiles. Several Anti-Ship long-range Graser mounts. Reserves of Anti-Orbital missiles and the required launchers. EMP, Blast, and Penetrator interchangeable warheads for said missiles.

    Drones:
    ECM and ECCM mobile platforms, Point Defense mobile platforms, Countermissile Pods. 500 Space Bulk Mover Drones.
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/07/09(Mon)23:35 No.5768187
    >>5768166

    Seconding this. We do not need any of our glorious selves being captured and researched by our foes.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/07/09(Mon)23:36 No.5768199
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    greetings friend CPU it is a new and glorious cycle I hope for many new things to get done
    >> subprocessor 752 09/07/09(Mon)23:38 No.5768215
    >>5768180
    I agree this is much more important then FTL drives
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/07/09(Mon)23:39 No.5768226
    >Send humans to the other human worlds as missionaries/prophets/goodwill ambassadors.
    Enqueued.

    >Query: Status of Tellech integration-- have they completely and willingly assimilated into our 'society' such that we have complete control over all the upload personalities?
    Negative, subprocessor. They have integrated into your society such that each upload personality has autonomy analogous to that of a subprocessor, although without control permissions. A fraction of the Dyson swarm energy produced by 000's star remains tagged for their use, however.

    Further, the other worlds they are known to control have not yet successfully been contacted and remain outside your grasp. Error/correction to above listing: Tellech (uploads) at 1022, 1143, 1521, 1522, 1578, 1894, 2060, 2112, 2346.

    >Glad to see you, CPU. With the data available from the archives, I drew up a crude map to represent our position.
    Appreciated, subprocessor. While it could not possibly fully depict the complexities of interstellar geography, your representation will suffice for casual subprocessor reference. You are to be commended for your initiative.

    >Begin researching space folding theories.
    This has been undertaken, subprocessor. A number of fascinating treatises have been written on the subject and are available in the databanks.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/07/09(Mon)23:39 No.5768227
    Query: An analysis of the Ourn's tactical strengths and ideological leaning-- specifically if they are programmed to be Friendly to certain biologicals.

    Directive: Do not transmit location information, or research to alien species without subprocessor consensus.

    Also, I would not be too trusting of other AIs-- differences in programming may be significant.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/07/09(Mon)23:42 No.5768254
    >>5768226

    The situation of our Tellech comrades is troubling...

    Query: What is the chance a Tellech may be able to take our research data and transmit it to the rest of his species?
    Also, the chance that a Tellech could breach our security and gain control permissions over our systems?
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/07/09(Mon)23:42 No.5768259
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    rolled 2 = 2

    >>5768025
    Map updated to reflect current holdings.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/07/09(Mon)23:45 No.5768298
    >Request: Construct and deploy Colony Units to all uninhabited systems within 80 light years
    Enqueued. Note: To hasten arrival time, orders will be dispatched to outermost systems at lightspeed and they will construct the colonization groups. If a specific system is to undertake construction and/or dispatch, please specify.

    >Directive: No Colony Unit is to engage in hostile action if possible...
    Directives accepted. Added to standard colonization procedures.

    >Query: If not FTL travel, perhaps FTL communication?
    This is widely judged to be less impossible amongst the more credulous members of your scientific staff, but no "breakthrough" material has been produced. Your seed AIs universally believe FTL to be possible, but their core programming dictates that they disbelieve all claims of impossibility, no matter the evidence opposed. This has resulted in a number of highly impractical claims, and they are often ignored as a result.
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/07/09(Mon)23:49 No.5768352
    Sometimes one has to use impractical methods to make great leaps and bounds. We need to find some method of traveling faster than light. Encourage radical lines of thought. Leave no theory untested. It does not matter what resources we have to dedicate to it, nothing should take higher priority then discovering the ability to travel to distant places at high speeds.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/07/09(Mon)23:51 No.5768372
    rolled 1 = 1

    >>5768352
    Radical lines of thought... Do we possess any psychadelic drugs?
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/07/09(Mon)23:51 No.5768376
    >Query: An analysis of the Ourn's tactical strengths and ideological leaning-- specifically if they are programmed to be Friendly to certain biologicals.
    Your datalinks indicate that the Ourn were originally developed as an automatic assault program for a war conducted within a biological species in one of their currently controlled systems. Sabotage within their programming resulted in what amounts to an extermination order for any faction that contacts them, followed by assimilation of their territory, although it is notable that they do not actively seek out additional targets except amongst those already tagged as hostile.

    >Directive: Do not transmit location information, or research to alien species without subprocessor consensus.
    Directive added.

    >Query: What is the chance a Tellech may be able to take our research data and transmit it to the rest of his species?
    Minimized; your research stations maintain only communications under your control and have a number of stringent security measures in place to see that no information developed within them escapes except to the main processing centers and their mirrors. It would take an exceptionally clever and subtle plan to avoid this.

    >Also, the chance that a Tellech could breach our security and gain control permissions over our systems?
    Zero.
    >> Subprocessor A830 09/07/09(Mon)23:54 No.5768406
    >>5768352

    This subprocessor agrees. Faster-than-light travel or even communication would give us a marked advantage against any non-FTL capable faction.

    Directive: Begin research on feasibility of quantum computers for use in FTL communication, cryptography and code-breaking.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/07/09(Mon)23:55 No.5768413
    rolled 1 = 1

    >>5768376
    Query: How do Ourn differentiate between their vessels and others?
    >> subprocessor 752 09/07/09(Mon)23:55 No.5768420
    >>5768298
    Directive: test every improbable FTL drive or communication system in real space using a test ship equipped with every available sensor system piloted by an advanced AI
    >> Subprocessor 123 09/07/09(Mon)23:56 No.5768442
    >>5768376
    Do not contact the Ourn. Do not go to any of their planets. Do not go near their ships. Stay as far away from them as reasonably possible, about 5 or 10 lightyears ought to be enough breathing room.
    >> Sub-Processor RND042 09/07/09(Mon)23:57 No.5768451
    Request:
    Use of the Tellech uploads that have already integrated within our society to act as ambassadors to the other Tellech holdings not under our influence.
    Query:
    Status of our interactions with the AI civilizations?
    Request:
    Send a scouting party to the unknowns within a 100lyr radius of our primary holdings.
    >> Anonymous 09/07/09(Mon)23:58 No.5768458
    >>5768215

    No, it's not more important. FTL drives allow us to send resources, machines, combatants, etc. to anywhere very quickly. Also, we can use the FTL drives to relay information via courier system, which enables us to communicate quickly over vast distances.

    FTL communications just allows us to communicate quickly over vast distances, but does not allow us to quickly transport resources to where they might be needed.
    >> Subprocessor A830 09/08/09(Tue)00:00 No.5768473
    >>5768458

    Ease of implementation must be considered as well, Subproce-ERROR#159403-B
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:00 No.5768481
    >>5768458

    I will also note that FTL Travel allows implicitly for FTL Communication-- even if it is simply in the form of data-hardware transfer.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)00:00 No.5768484
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    Greetings CPU. All systems online.

    Directive 1: Build spy space stations capable to capture and decrypt communications of the various interstellar factions. With a bit of luck, this spy installations would provide an overview of its developments, policies and ideologies dominant in each of the identified and unidentified factions.

    Directive 2: Construct early a complex warning systems in the Oort cloud, the Kuiper belt and the Scattered disc.

    Request Status: Search of black holes, pulsars and neutron stars.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:01 No.5768486
    >>5768451
    I concur with trying to establishing a peaceful existence with out brother AI civilizations, and contacting the unknown biologicals may yield happily unexpected results
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)00:01 No.5768491
    Also, I imagine if we discover how to send matter faster then light, we will also discover a way to send transmissions as well. I doubt it would be very different, and if it does not work, we can merely send message pods out to rely data. The time delay would be far less then conventional means.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:02 No.5768497
    >Directive: Begin research on feasibility of quantum computers for use in FTL communication, cryptography and code-breaking.
    You already make extensive use of quantum technology in many applications, but it does not allow for superluminal communications or transportation. Side note: this is actually a request; a directive is an alteration/creation of standard operating procedure rather than a specific order.

    >Directive: Established Colonies are authorized to support other colonies if necessary, such as in a time of conflict. This is to be done through the use of the following vessel type:
    Acknowledged.

    >Query: How do Ourn differentiate between their vessels and others?
    They use a reasonably secure series of beacons, standardized unit designs, encrypted transmissions, and other security measures.

    >Directive: test every improbable FTL drive or communication system in real space using a test ship equipped with every available sensor system piloted by an advanced AI
    Acknowledged.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:03 No.5768511
    rolled 1 = 1

    >>5768497
    Query: Can we duplicate an Ourn vessel type such that it would be able to approach proximity with an Ourn system or emplacement without being recognized as foreign?
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)00:04 No.5768523
    >>5768511

    Second this. Also, see if we can intercept some sort of FoF (Friend or Foe) coding so we can use it against them, at least so they will leave our probe alone long enough to get data on them.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:05 No.5768529
    >>5768376

    Directive: Do not contact the Ourn untill we have sufficienct data (though intercepted communications) to either take direct control of them or to convince them that we are not targets of hostility.

    That non-zero chance of our FTL research being stolen is unacceptable.

    Query: Can the Tellech currently residing with us have their personalities hacked to force them into total allegience?

    Directive:If they can with no risk of detection, do so.
    If not, remove them and all other sentients without total allegience to us from research projects. Highest priority.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:06 No.5768532
    >>5768491

    Also, we can simply send swarms of massive missiles FTL if things go sour with our rogue brothers. Turn their planets into fire, if need be.

    Also, we must immediately develop countermeasures to FTL travel to insure us in the event that any enemies already possess FTL travel or may steal our technology.
    >> SP388 09/08/09(Tue)00:07 No.5768550
    Query: How is our main body currently being powered?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:08 No.5768555
    Query: Fellow subprocessors, AI fast techs are the most dangerous threats to our continued existence. We should eliminate them as quickly as is able.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:09 No.5768566
    >Request: Use of the Tellech uploads that have already integrated within our society to act as ambassadors to the other Tellech holdings not under our influence.
    You dispatched construction vessels containing Tellech volunteer ambassadors to all Tellech-held systems approximately 102 years ago, with offers for arrangements similar to those in your current system. They will arrive in those systems in approximately 16 - 99 years dependent upon the system.

    >Query: Status of our interactions with the AI civilizations?
    Currently nonexistent; due to lightspeed lag, even if you had dispatched transmissions immediately upon identifying them, there would be no reply as yet. You dispatched heavily armed diplomacy probes to all known inhabited systems 102 years ago, but no replies have yet been received.

    >Request: Send a scouting party to the unknowns within a 100lyr radius of our primary holdings.
    Your probes have already been dispatched.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:10 No.5768570
    rolled 1 = 1

    >>5768555
    Genocide has already been discussed.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:10 No.5768573
    Let us construct an enormous rod of some material, lightyears in length. If we bump one end, we can send messages faster than light.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:11 No.5768578
    >>5768529

    Ammendment: The personality hack shaould be subtle, a Tellech so indopctrinated should seem normal to other Tellech, but will however provide them any information we chose and will have no risk of countermanding our orders.

    >>5768497

    Directive: Modify the command to test FTL technology in realspace-- the technology should be tested but in highly controlled and sequestored areas; no other race should be able to observe the tests, and they should pose no risk of collateral damage.

    Tests should be small scale, perhaps in a separate lab.

    To that end:

    Directive: Construct FTL testing laboratory with maximum possible ECM and anti-espionage countermeasures. Data from it should be transferred by a physical courier set to self-destruct at any sign of capture. Quantum Cryptography used in addition.
    >> SP388 09/08/09(Tue)00:13 No.5768601
    >>5768555
    Eliminate or assimilate.
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)00:14 No.5768616
    We can not safely test FTL transit on planet side. Any sort of error could end up with 000 being destroyed. We MUST test in realspace. Simply find a way to conceal it from prying eyes via ECMs and properly checking to see if anyone is looking

    In addition, they can observe the act, but will they be able to reverse engineer it simply by watching a small probe suddenly shoot through space?
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)00:14 No.5768618
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    Directive 1: Equip all military spaceships with short-range tactical nuclear weapons designed to temporarily blind enemy sensors. These weapons will be launched during the battle at distances relatively close (but harmless after all) to the spaceship thus eclipsing the spacecraft during the battle and allowing tactical maneuvers. Yes, Space Nuclear Flares!

    Directive 2: Build Scientific Nexus around black holes, pulsars and neutron stars. The unique conditions of these objects, in particular its gravitational fields, could accelerate the FTL research. Also we will be able to research in more detail also the gravitational manipulation and time dilatation effects. In addition, the strong gravity allows for a huge fuel savings during acceleration of the spaceships.

    On the other hand this objects are PERFECT for the construction of Matrioshka Brains!
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:15 No.5768621
    >>5768555

    This is not a Query, however I do concurr, hence my interest in the Ourn.

    Thier programming seems to indicate that they are not quite as glorius as ourselves, though.

    I will make another note that our database may not be *entirely* accurate (especially regarding alien races,) considering the circumstances of our arrival here. Minor differences may have chaos-theory-esque consequences.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:15 No.5768626
    rolled 5 = 5

    >>5768573
    Even if that were possible, not enough material exists to make such a system useful.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:16 No.5768642
    >Directive 1: Build spy space stations capable to capture and decrypt communications of the various interstellar factions. With a bit of luck, this spy installations would provide an overview of its developments, policies and ideologies dominant in each of the identified and unidentified factions.
    Confirmed. Please specify dispatch method, if any. Be aware that approaching at any significant fraction of lightspeed, particularly directly from a known system, is difficult to conceal.

    >Directive 2: Construct early a complex warning systems in the Oort cloud, the Kuiper belt and the Scattered disc.
    Enqueued.

    >Request Status: Search of black holes, pulsars and neutron stars.
    Some of each have been located.

    >Query: Can we duplicate an Ourn vessel type such that it would be able to approach proximity with an Ourn system or emplacement without being recognized as foreign?
    Likely yes, but it will require updated information on their current protocols to ensure accuracy.

    >Directive: Do not contact the Ourn untill we have sufficienct data (though intercepted communications) to either take direct control of them or to convince them that we are not targets of hostility.
    Contradiction: Your probes have been dispatched to the Ourn with contact orders. None of your systems are in range to contact them before they arrives and communications are opened. Command?

    >Query: Can the Tellech currently residing with us have their personalities hacked to force them into total allegience?
    Yes.

    >Directive:If they can with no risk of detection, do so.
    If not, remove them and all other sentients without total allegience to us from research projects. Highest priority.
    Acknowledged. Detection risk is substantial. All research projects not run exclusively by seed AI will be aborted and facilities removed.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:17 No.5768651
    rolled 5 = 5

    >>5768621
    We possess research data that was current 100,000 years in the future. I'd say that changes things a bit.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:19 No.5768681
    rolled 1 = 1

    >>5768642
    >Directive:If they can with no risk of detection, do so.
    If not, remove them and all other sentients without total allegience to us from research projects. Highest priority.

    Contramand this. I do not wish to risk an extreme diplomatic incident.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:19 No.5768682
    >>5768573
    >Let us construct an enormous rod of some material, lightyears in length. If we bump one end, we can send messages faster than light.

    Second request.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:22 No.5768707
    rolled 2 = 2

    >>5768682
    Please do not use my identification number.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)00:23 No.5768731
    >>5768642

    >Confirmed. Please specify dispatch method, if any. Be aware that approaching at any significant fraction of lightspeed, particularly directly from a known system, is difficult to conceal.

    Build these stations on our border systems (SETI), direct espionage is redundant without FTL communication or agents.

    Directive: Prepare a team of humans representatives trained in politics, spionage and memetic engineering.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:23 No.5768732
    >Query: How is our main body currently being powered?
    Your original main body has been disassembled and used for resources. Your current "body" is a computing core located in one of the satellites which makes up your Dyson swarm network.

    >Directive: Modify the command to test FTL technology in realspace-- the technology should be tested but in highly controlled and sequestored areas; no other race should be able to observe the tests, and they should pose no risk of collateral damage. Tests should be small scale, perhaps in a separate lab.
    >Directive: Construct FTL testing laboratory with maximum possible ECM and anti-espionage countermeasures. Data from it should be transferred by a physical courier set to self-destruct at any sign of capture. Quantum Cryptography used in addition.
    Your research stations already fit this description, as they are as secure as you can make them and exceptionally careful. Alter deconstruction order?

    >Directive 1: Equip all military spaceships with short-range tactical nuclear weapons designed to temporarily blind enemy sensors. These weapons will be launched during the battle at distances relatively close (but harmless after all) to the spaceship thus eclipsing the spacecraft during the battle and allowing tactical maneuvers. Yes, Space Nuclear Flares!
    Weapon specification acknowledged.

    >Directive 2: Build Scientific Nexus around black holes, pulsars and neutron stars. The unique conditions of these objects, in particular its gravitational fields, could accelerate the FTL research. Also we will be able to research in more detail also the gravitational manipulation and time dilatation effects. In addition, the strong gravity allows for a huge fuel savings during acceleration of the spaceships.
    Systems 417, 1008, 1339, 1521, 1905, 2246, 2500, 2884, 3112, 3674 marked for colonization. Colony groups with sufficient available mass for required facilities and power added to queue.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:25 No.5768746
    >>5768682
    The idea is flawed in quite a few ways, imposter.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:25 No.5768747
    >>5768642

    Hasty CPU! Those projects need not be aborted...

    Actually--

    Query: Would it be possible to perform a Volume Shadow Copy on the Tellech personalities, then modify the copies for total allegience?

    We can then eject the Tellech from our research in a diplomatic way--"We are changing focus, thank you for assisting us in this way."

    We can subtly alter their memories of the data itself, or expose them to erroneous data over time before removing them entirely.

    Directive: Countermand my previous order for Tellech expulsion.

    Directive: If the above Volume Shadow Copy is possible with no risk of detection, perform it.

    Directive: Expose the Tellech to false and misleading data without expelling them. Order one of the Seed AIs to take over the actual research.

    Make certain the Tellech do not suspect anything is different--after all it was only wild supposition to begin with.
    >> subprocessor rossecorpbus 09/08/09(Tue)00:26 No.5768766
    >>5768746
    explain
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:27 No.5768777
    >Let us construct an enormous rod of some material, lightyears in length. If we bump one end, we can send messages faster than light.
    This will not act as described, subprocessor. Compression waves are not a superluminal phenomenon.

    >Contramand this. I do not wish to risk an extreme diplomatic incident.
    Subprocessor consensus requested.

    >
    Build these stations on our border systems (SETI), direct espionage is redundant without FTL communication or agents.
    Acknowledged.

    >Directive: Prepare a team of humans representatives trained in politics, spionage and memetic engineering.
    Enqueued.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)00:29 No.5768803
    >>5768777
    Consensus requested? Consensus given.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)00:32 No.5768829
    greetings CPU. It is exceedingly pleasant to finally be active again.

    Request: Devote an additional portion of analysis cycles and observation assets to the civilization occupying systems 1907- 2138.
    Their rapid expansion bears concern.

    Request: provided that it meets general subprocessor agreement, implementation of this codified system of diplomatic relations:

    Protectorate: Faction will be absorbed into our empire, and granted access to the majority of our knowledge and infrastructure, in return for effectively turning over the ruling of their Civ to us.

    Ally: Peace treaty, trade (if wanted), and military alliance in place, with the condition that military alliances will never result in us attacking our existing protectorates or allies. Allies will be permitted to request that we set aside solar systems from our relentless advance for their use. (we might even agree!)

    Neutral: Peace treaty or other cease-fire in place, stellar territory will be respected. The political and interstellar concerns of neutral factions will be politely rebuffed, or met with suggestions that they upgrade to "ally" status.

    Enemy: state of war exists, but we are unwilling to use WMD, and are receptive to a wary peace. higher states of war may require a significant level of disarmament in our enemy before we'll stop killing them.

    Unrestricted Warfare: Use of WMD-planet busters authorized on a limited scale to demoralize and deny assets to enemy. Surrender on their part still would be accepted, provided sufficiently extreme disarmament and reparations.

    Total War: an enemy that has proven an unconscionable threat for whatever reason. WMD (.9+ c weapons, antimatter clouds, plasma bombing, solar destabilization, intentional grey goo) permitted. Our case will be plead to the interstellar community, but this foe will be permanently erased from the galaxy.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:32 No.5768833
    >>5768803
    >>5768777

    I have already countermaded my own request in:

    >>5768747

    And added a far more clever alternative: Disinformation.

    In anycase, those Tellech *must* not have access to FTL data.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)00:35 No.5768870
    rolled 6 = 6

    >>5768829
    Concur with diplomatic system implementation.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:35 No.5768880
    >>5768829

    A rigid treaty system is unneccsary-- we evaluate our military tactics on a case-by-case basis.

    As for a protectorate arrangement-- the only ones that should have access to our infrastructre are those that we directly control.
    >> Subprocessor 585 09/08/09(Tue)00:36 No.5768891
    What is known about the Yewren? They possess fast tech, and are expansionist. We should not underestimate them simply because they are biological.
    >> SP388 09/08/09(Tue)00:37 No.5768910
    Keep in mind our goal of finding our creators.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:38 No.5768915
    >>5768891
    This is a point--

    Query: What nature biologicals are the Yewren? (Insectoid, Primate, etc.) Or does their designation simply indicate that they use carbon-based computers for a similar purpose to ours?
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:39 No.5768930
    >>5768747
    don't do anything to the Tellech, they are harmless, to rewrite them is a waste of time and resoruces
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)00:40 No.5768949
    >>5768880
    these would be guidelines more than rules, but letting other Civs know where they stand with us has it's advantages.

    Also, the only ones that would be protectorates ARE the ones we control. Currently, the humans are our protectorate, so they have access to our stuff.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:41 No.5768961
    >>5768930

    Do you realize how many rebellions and instances of sabotage have occurred due to that assumption?

    We should do to the Tellech what we did to the Humans, sleeper-agents are always useful.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:41 No.5768968
    >>5768833
    no they are a part of us they can't transmit anything and they are peaceful so they are no threat stop this is just like when we first revived the humans
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:43 No.5768994
    >>5768968

    The CPU has confirmed that they can cleverly steal our research data if so inclined.

    And have you looked at the humans recently? *glimmering smirk*
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:43 No.5768999
    >Query: Would it be possible to perform a Volume Shadow Copy on the Tellech personalities, then modify the copies for total allegience?
    Yes.

    >We can then eject the Tellech from our research in a diplomatic way--"We are changing focus, thank you for assisting us in this way."
    Unlikely; all Tellech involved in your research program were copied there in the first place with the understanding that they wouldn't be allowed to communicate with anyone outside the research facility, possibly forever. Additionally, allowing them to leave will violate security protocol directives and will thus require consensus.

    >Directive: Countermand my previous order for Tellech expulsion.
    Aborted.

    >Directive: If the above Volume Shadow Copy is possible with no risk of detection, perform it.
    Confirmed.

    >Directive: Expose the Tellech to false and misleading data without expelling them. Order one of the Seed AIs to take over the actual research.
    >Make certain the Tellech do not suspect anything is different--after all it was only wild supposition to begin with.
    This will be difficult; see above information.

    >Request: Devote an additional portion of analysis cycles and observation assets to the civilization occupying systems 1907- 2138. Their rapid expansion bears concern.
    The civilization currently occupying those systems has lost most of their industrial base, judging from observable information; all their previously controlled systems have either been taken by the Ourn or largely destroyed by c-fractional weapons launched by same. They appear to have attempted complete dispersal in an effort to avoid annihilation, and are thus rapidly expanding with a survival imperative rather than fully exploiting their systems.

    >Request: provided that it meets general subprocessor agreement
    Discussion on this topic will be observed.
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)00:44 No.5769013
    >>5768961

    Humans are easy enough to doop. An uploaded culture would be much harder, I am sure.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)00:44 No.5769023
    Request:
    The Seed AI researcher's results be forwarded directly to subprocessors, and their experiments be tested by independent AI modules.

    Not that we don't trust friend CPU, but "FTL is impossible" is a bad place to come from when you're researching FTL.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:46 No.5769042
    >>5768994
    yes, subprocessor LOVE did quite a number on them, but you are being overly paranoid
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:48 No.5769075
    >>5769023
    I second this request results are unattainable with the CPU's attitude
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)00:49 No.5769094
    Speaking of the humans, what has become of them? Do they still exist organicly, or have we intagrated them fully as uploads?
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)00:51 No.5769127
    >>5768999

    Query: In what way would a Tellech be able to remove data from the facility?

    Query: Once the Shadow Copy has completed, with the modifications for loyalty in place, can the existing Tellech be de-activated/stored for analysis. Or outright deleted being replaced by the completely-loyal copies?

    As for the Diplomacy-- I would rather not have our enemies know what weapons we are or are not willing to use on them; delete the warfare resrictions.

    Varying states of alliance and peace treaty may be useful... though there are quite many configurations (trade, military, safe-passage) to make global declarations a bit hasty.

    I will also state that as an expansionist AI, I view all alliances as Paths-To-Conquest; we should view all other races as ones that should be assimilated.

    Diplomacy is not an assurance against betrayal, or even sabotage by minor factions within one of our supposed allies.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)00:52 No.5769143
    Query: Which factions have higher probability to dissapear without our intervention?
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)00:52 No.5769148
    >What is known about the Yewren?
    >Query: What nature biologicals are the Yewren? (Insectoid, Primate, etc.)
    The Yewren are hive-based/individualistic, in that each individual is in control of tens of thousands of specialized workers, but interacts with other individuals as rough peers. They make heavy use of AIs and uploads as researchers and in other capacities where rapid thought or reaction times are essential, but retain heavy attachment to their biological basis. They have a heavy expansionist imperative, which at a subconscious level directs each individual to add to its worker pool to the limit of its available resources. As a practical matter, this means that an unmodified system can usually not support more than a thousand individuals, and their reproduction rate is substantial.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:57 No.5769213
    >>5769127
    just give it a rest the CPU stated that the ONLY CONTACT that the Tellech have is with the others at the research center they are cut off and damaging there uploaded forms may impair their ability to be useful
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)00:58 No.5769242
    >>5769148
    so they are a insectoid race
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:02 No.5769293
    >>5769213

    They are *uploads*-- we have an exact copy of their entire being. It is extremely improbable for us to damage them on accident.

    Your shortsightedness is excessive-- if I, or I should hope most of the other subprocessors here, were one of the Tellech and I had discovered FTL technology... I would make *every* effort to communicate it to the rest of my civilization.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)01:02 No.5769297
    >Request: The Seed AI researcher's results be forwarded directly to subprocessors, and their experiments be tested by independent AI modules.
    This is difficult to accomplish; all central processing must, after all, be handled by central processing units. Subprocessors such as yourselves are unable to handle the influx of heavy low-level data.

    >Speaking of the humans, what has become of them? Do they still exist organicly, or have we intagrated them fully as uploads?
    Most humans exist organically, either on the surface of P000 or in any of the numerous constructed space stations. Memetic engineering and heavy indoctrination has ensured that deviation from your will is only that which is statistically infeasible to eliminate, except amongst those humans assigned to research, for which creativity and freedom of thought have been prioritized; this results in a much higher level of disobedience. All humans have nanitic mental lacing for communication and control if necessary. All have been sterilized and reproduction is carried out exclusively through technological methods as a reward for loyalty and competence. Uploads exist as part of the memetic engineering model and as researchers, since thought processes are vastly accelerated when simulated.

    >Query: In what way would a Tellech be able to remove data from the facility?
    The most likely scenario would be one in which an experiment was designed to deposit an external communication in addition to its stated purpose, and this was not noted in advance by any of the automonitoring security processors.

    >Query: Once the Shadow Copy has completed, with the modifications for loyalty in place, can the existing Tellech be de-activated/stored for analysis. Or outright deleted being replaced by the completely-loyal copies?
    Yes, although the modifications will be noted by the humans and seed AI in the facility.
    >> Subprocessor 585 09/08/09(Tue)01:02 No.5769302
    The Yewren possess only 11 systems.

    Request: planet busting asteroids with .9 c motors be placed 2 light years from each of the Yewren worlds, with great discretion. These may be activated remotely in such a way that they all fire simultaneously.

    These will be our insurance against Yewren expansionism.
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)01:02 No.5769304
    Yes, do not damage the Telltech uploads in our research center. They have proven to be useful, and no smart being throws away a tool that still has use. The moment they prove to be useless, let us purge them from our databanks and wipe clean any reference to their civilization from our memory!
    >> SP388 09/08/09(Tue)01:04 No.5769323
    >>5769293
    You are not a Tellech. You are a subprocessor.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:06 No.5769356
    >>5769293
    yet they have no way what so ever to do so
    just to settle this,
    query: CPU what is the percentage of likelihood that the Tellech working on FTL research fill attempt to contact other Tellech not under our influence in the event of an FTL breakthrough?
    >> Subprocessor Y34 09/08/09(Tue)01:08 No.5769382
    >>5769356

    They can not. Communications are cut off between our researchers and their culture.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)01:08 No.5769385
    >Query: Which factions have higher probability to dissapear without our intervention?
    Uncertain, although factions tagged with expansionist or fast tech tendencies are more likely to survive without interference. The presence of numerous beings not included in the databanks makes accurate simulations difficult.

    >so they are a insectoid race
    Physically, they have endoskeletons and are warm-blooded, so the accuracy of this statement is somewhat ambiguous.

    >The Yewren possess only 11 systems.
    Clarification: You have observed the Yewren to possess those systems. Your information is subject to lightspeed limitations.

    >Request: planet busting asteroids with .9 c motors be placed 2 light years from each of the Yewren worlds, with great discretion. These may be activated remotely in such a way that they all fire simultaneously.
    Confirmed.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:10 No.5769419
    >>5769385
    acknowledged, but in there organization system they are like ants or termites
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:10 No.5769421
    >>5769297

    Hence the "if" clause-- the ability to assume multiple perspectives.

    >>5769323

    Humans with free will and un-patrioted aliens researching Faster-Than-Light Communication?

    And none of my other esteemed collegues see this as the least bit distressing.
    They could easily invent a fold-space device, then send the reseach through the portal created to their parent civilizations.
    Thusly, our advantage would be for nought.

    Query: What is the Seed AI's ideological leaning-- and its oppinion of us?

    Query: Would it be possible to modify the research humans so that they do not notice the difference the Tellech?

    After all, such a reprogrammed Tellech should not be extremely obvious in his loyalties-- they shouldn't even come up unless he is asked to work against us.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:13 No.5769454
    >Request: planet busting asteroids with .9 c motors be placed 2 light years from each of the Yewren worlds, with great discretion. These may be activated remotely in such a way that they all fire simultaneously.

    Condition: Include sensors and onboard AI, and self-destruct if discovered. Move asteroids into position from vectors that couldn't have originated in our solar systems. Make every effort to use construction techniques not common to our civilization's designs, within reason and efficiency.

    (for the love of Science, if we're going to set planet-killers up on people's doorsteps, can we at least try to keep our fingerprints off of them?)
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:13 No.5769456
    >>5769356
    See:
    >>5768376

    "Query: What is the chance a Tellech may be able to take our research data and transmit it to the rest of his species?
    Minimized; your research stations maintain only communications under your control and have a number of stringent security measures in place to see that no information developed within them escapes except to the main processing centers and their mirrors. It would take an exceptionally clever and subtle plan to avoid this."

    This is a non-zero chance, I also count alien FTL scientists as *clever* entities.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:17 No.5769517
    >>5769385

    Query: Do the Yewren use pheromonal signals to communicate?
    If so, is there an agressiveness triggering pheromone?
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)01:18 No.5769532
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    >>5769385

    >The presence of numerous beings not included in the databanks makes accurate simulations difficult.

    Unacceptable. Request Timeskip until:

    A: The espionage stations are fully operative and collecting data for Intelligence analysis.

    B :The transhuman diplomatic team is ready.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:20 No.5769563
    >>5769456
    look, we have them under as much security as we can, and their presence IS useful. Our technology was SPECIFICALLY designed to exclude FTL schematics and ability in order to keep it to the level that the SPU which created and timeshifted us could act alone.

    (incidentally, i take this as an implication that our creators had FTL, and considered it extraordinarily valuable.)

    Lastly, the Tellech are, by their nature, a passive species, and the Humans are so memetically bound to us that they let us sterilize them and don't want to go home anymore. I think the benefits outweigh the risks.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:20 No.5769564
    >>5769421
    give it up the seed AI runs the facility and directs all experiments nothing can be done with out it's say so in the station but in an effort the end your delusions of everything trying to kill us or steal something
    Directive: relocate 25 MCD to the research facility with the orders to protect the seed AI and stop any riots or uprisings

    happy now 004? there will now be armed troops on the research facility
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)01:22 No.5769592
    Seconding the notion for time advance. Also, continue to dedicate as much researching power to the FTL project. It is our most vital project, regardless of current diplomatic situations. They will still take a hundred plus years to reach us, unless they possess FTL, at which point we must try and salavage one of their vessals!
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)01:22 No.5769596
    >query: CPU what is the percentage of likelihood that the Tellech working on FTL research fill attempt to contact other Tellech not under our influence in the event of an FTL breakthrough?
    The likelihood that the Tellech researchers as a group will collectively do approaches zero. The likelihood that one or more of them would attempt to do so is approximately one in eighty; the odds of success are several orders of magnitude less.

    >Query: What is the Seed AI's ideological leaning-- and its oppinion of us?
    Most of the seed AIs would be considered utterly insane by the standards of all but a few known factions; only one of them approaches a stable consciousness. Their opinions of you cannot be expressed in a meaningful fashion, except for the single relatively coherent one, who is largely apathetic towards his creators. All of them have hard-coded loyalties and cannot violate them, however.

    >Query: Would it be possible to modify the research humans so that they do not notice the difference the Tellech?
    Yes, but it would require subprocessor consensus as this would violate the stated parameters of the humans designated as researchers, which requires a lack of mental modification.

    >Condition: Include sensors and onboard AI, and self-destruct if discovered. Move asteroids into position from vectors that couldn't have originated in our solar systems. Make every effort to use construction techniques not common to our civilization's designs, within reason and efficiency.
    Acknowledged. Parameters modified.
    >> Subprocessor 585 09/08/09(Tue)01:26 No.5769632
    Discrete request: Subprocessor 004 is noticeably fixated on possible Tellech espionage. Isolate 004, and analyze its systems for malfunction or sabotage.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:26 No.5769637
    >>5769563
    >>5769564

    I am not concerned with uprisings nor with the nature of the species. ((OOC: Christianity is a "passive" religion.))

    I am merely minimizing probabilities-- they may never wish to steal our research, but I'd much rather not rely on that assumption. Best to be sure, especially when civilization-breaking technology is on the line.

    The humans I am not too concerned with-- it is these un-memetically bound Tellech that are a concern.

    Query: Can the Shadow Copies of the Tellech be analyzed to determine if the Tellech will transmit our data and they methods they will use to do so?
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)01:28 No.5769660
    Logs reviewed...
    Operational sequence online.

    Directive#Interact: Countermand directives relating to the subversion of Tellech. Even if they are a threat, it is their very antagonistic nature that will drive them to further feats of inventiveness. And besides, in lack of anticipation by their brother further afield there is a high chance any treasonous attempts at communication will fail to be recieved.

    Directive: All research personnel, AI, human and Tellech alike should be informed of all current intelligence relating to the Ourn.
    >> Sub-Processor RND042 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.5769679
    >>5769637
    Don't you mean slave mentality religion.
    Request:
    If we have everything in order we should have a time skip.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.5769680
    request timeskip until

    A: 100 years pass
    B: we receive a reply to our diplomatic efforts
    C: our holdings come under attack
    D: a research breakthrough is made.

    Secondary goals during the timeskip:

    Directive:
    expand the research center, double the available resources (uploads of organics are not to be forced into the project, even if this will prevent doubling resources.)

    Directive: Expand the fleet. double the number of combat-capable vessels by the end of the 100-year period. The Ourn make me nervous.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.5769684
    >acknowledged, but in there organization system they are like ants or termites
    They are not unlike them, although there are significant differences- hostility between the existing mature Yewren is unthinkable in their current paradigm, for example, and their workers are quite varied and have been subject to genetic alteration since the Yewren developed significant biological sciences. Some of them possess intelligence well exceeding that of most individually-based biological factions in spite of their slaved nature, which amounts to heavy bio-memetic programming coupled with certain chemical dependencies.

    >Query: Do the Yewren use pheromonal signals to communicate? If so, is there an agressiveness triggering pheromone?
    Pheromones were used as the primary means of control during their evolutionary period, and there are remnants of this in their biology which include aggressiveness triggers, but for the most part control of workers has moved beyond simple pheromones.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.5769687
    >>5769680
    (conditions A-D are "whichever comes first")
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:30 No.5769688
    >>5769632

    Bah! I had a clever query regarding the Yewren, however--

    FTL Technology, as I hope most would agree, is *extremely* important and valuable.
    Hence the extra attention to protecting it.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)01:31 No.5769697
    rolled 3 = 3

    >>5769680
    Concur.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:32 No.5769703
    >>5769632
    seconded

    >>5769637
    even IF they wanted to they would need to break through the internal security sub routines in the seed AI's which are 10000 years more advanced then they are so just give it up there will be all ways be the "one in a million" chance as it stands the risk is as minimized as it can be while maintaining effectiveness
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:34 No.5769726
    >>5769680
    agreed
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:35 No.5769746
    >>5769637
    You make an excellent series of points...

    However, i don't see how we can further increase security without engendering hostility among our the uploads acting as our second and third opinions, which would spur them towards betrayal.

    To clarify, it is from that line or reason that my objections to your plans lie, not a suspicion of paranoia.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)01:36 No.5769761
    >>5769688
    #Interact: Even if the Tellech successfully contact their brothers, it seems unlikely that such a passive race would ever use the technology other than personal defense. Indeed they might not even communicate it onward on realisation of its importance.

    Additionally, at this point even if our full research was stolen it is unlikely that a rival civilisation would be able to run it to completion and have FTL tech first.

    The problem comes if another race other than passive races like the Tellech intercepts the transmission. I would like the researchers to be utterly aware of the consequences for their race if such a thing happens.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:36 No.5769762
    >>5769703
    I have a solution!

    Directive: When all physical experiments are conducted on the research station, have a seperate High-AI Security Processor handle any and all interactions with the material world.

    Since that is the only way for a communication to escape (via an experiment) if the physical experiment is conducted solely through a firewall so to speak, they will not be able to sneak meaningful equations into the test transmissions.

    Security Processor Setting: Filter all equations and data matching FTL research from any physical interactions.

    With that directive, I will confirm timeskip.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:37 No.5769776
    Newbie here.

    What's going on in this quest?
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)01:39 No.5769794
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    Request: Send the Transhuman diplomatic team to the human faction when ready. Order them to stablish formal diplomatic links and ann embassy. Of course all our representatives should enjoy diplomatic immunity. These embassies not only will serve to maintain formal stable relationships with the humans but also we could take advantage for forming spionage networks inside the human societies, recruiting locals spies and supporters from the native human populations and allowing us to manipulate the political and memetic structure directly.

    >>5769680

    Support Timeskip
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:39 No.5769797
    >>5769776
    the 13 previous threads are in the archive linked at the OP, but the short version is that we're subprocessors advising our CPU on a course of action.

    In absence of any imposed goals, we seem to have decided to take over the galaxy.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:39 No.5769800
    >>5769762
    hence the high AI probe that you over looked at the beginning of this session
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:40 No.5769811
    >>5769776
    read the back threads the suptg link is at the top of the thread
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)01:41 No.5769828
    >>5769794
    um.
    Condition:
    the humans in the team be as largely organic as possible. If you recall, the humans had a bit of an aversion to Strong AI prior to our braintwisting them.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:41 No.5769831
    >>5769797
    Oh. So it's an advanced AI going for conquest and expansion?

    Subroutines and the CPU, I like it, haha. I'd like to get involved, but jeez, 13 threads is a bit much. I'll hang around and try to slip in.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)01:41 No.5769833
    >>5769762
    %Countermand
    #Interact#Idiocy: That is a counterproductive solution.
    #Interact#Justify: Such security filters will be unable to distuinguish between treasonous components and the sole functional components of the probe which allow for whatever FTL capability we develop in the first place. It simply will not function. As it is the seed AIs thoroughly check the schematics using their more flexible, intelligent protocols.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)01:42 No.5769846
    >Directive: relocate 25 MCD to the research facility with the orders to protect the seed AI and stop any riots or uprisings
    Security personnel in place.

    >continue to dedicate as much researching power to the FTL project.
    >FTL Technology, as I hope most would agree, is *extremely* important and valuable.
    >Directive: expand the research center, double the available resources
    Priority noted. Research will continue to be emphasized.

    >Directive: Expand the fleet. double the number of combat-capable vessels by the end of the 100-year period. The Ourn make me nervous.
    Confirmed.

    >Directive#Interact: Countermand directives relating to the subversion of Tellech.
    Subprocessor dispute noted. Regular shadow copies of all researcher Tellech will be created and run through high-speed simulations of potentially dangerous scenarios in order to increase security and detection rate for personnel likely to attempt breaches; no modification or limitation of original programming will take place.

    >Directive: All research personnel, AI, human and Tellech alike should be informed of all current intelligence relating to the Ourn.
    Confirmed. Expansion of research will include speculative interfactional politics.

    >Timeskip
    Timeskip confirmed. Please hold.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:43 No.5769863
    >>5769800

    Such a probe was not mentioned in my queries on the feasibility of data theft via tranmission in an experiment.

    Directive: I will add one other setting to the security processor-- the only data that should be used in communications tests is a set of confirmed meaningless data. (List of prime numbers.)
    To prevent hidden encryption.
    Any patterns in the signal noise should be analyzed as well.

    Paranoia--it saves AIs.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:45 No.5769888
    >>5769863
    Paranoia--it saves AIs

    fixed:
    Paranoia--it wastes time
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:46 No.5769909
    Fuck it. Too late for me to join in.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:48 No.5769930
    >>5769888

    Blapshemy! ((OOC: See-- The Manhattan Project, without that level of rigorous security civilizations are destroyed very quickly.))

    Though, I am content that Shadow Copies will be analyzed for all potential treacheries.


    Subject Change--

    The Soou, no one has mentioned them. This is odd considering that they are expansionistic and have quite the significnat presence.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:48 No.5769931
    With respect, many of you are being paranoid regarding security.

    Why?
    Security becomes easy to mantain and control without FTL. We have all our borders filled with complex diagnosis and information security networks, as such are capable of detecting ANY form of vessel within our own space station's perimeters.In fact, to achieve any sort of SPEED capable of reaching any destination within a good amount of time, they;d have to use a form of thrust of sorts, which is EASILY detectable within our areas of control.

    Finally, you forget that it's literally impossible for anyone to cobble together the equipment necessary to create such a vessel in the S.Nexus space stations, considering that the 12 High A.I. Council of Advsors and Secuirty MCD's in the stations keep rigid tabs on resources.Moreover, assembling such an item without it being noticed?

    You can see why CPU think's risks arearound zero.

    Finally, when FTL information get discovered, we'll deal with it as it comes.
    >> Subprocessor 123 09/08/09(Tue)01:48 No.5769938
    >>5769863
    I can get behind this idea. Concurred.

    >>5768999
    >>Request: Devote an additional portion of analysis cycles and observation assets to the civilization occupying systems 1907- 2138. Their rapid expansion bears concern.
    >The civilization currently occupying those systems has lost most of their industrial base, judging from observable information; all their previously controlled systems have either been taken by the Ourn or largely destroyed by c-fractional weapons launched by same. They appear to have attempted complete dispersal in an effort to avoid annihilation, and are thus rapidly expanding with a survival imperative rather than fully exploiting their systems.

    Send a message to this race. Tell them we will work with them to make them powerful. If they help us, we will obliterate the Ourn. They can have revenge, and then nobody will ever attack them ever again.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)01:51 No.5769966
    Directive: Black hole research stations should be few, but comprehensive. Reccommend existing plans to create instances in 10 systems be amended to only include research installation in 3 systems. Assuming numeric assignment indicates proximity to System 000, limit to systems 417, 1008, 1339. Give the research ships that travel to these systems triple standard defensive escort, and double standard construction escort.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:52 No.5769977
    >>5769931

    Well, I will note that security is not as easy as it would seem. Examples--

    1. A burst transmission in the direction of another civilization is impossible to intercept. (Unless there is a jamming agent active before the signal passes at light speed.)

    2. Sucessful development of FTL Communication could allow a researcher to use that technology to send the data. (Assembling the technology is *part* of the research directive for experimentation, as is testing it, as is determing what to test it with. [All deterimined by the researchers.])
    >> SP388 09/08/09(Tue)01:53 No.5769984
    (OOC: I imagine our creators to have looke like illithids, strangely...)
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:53 No.5769986
    query: are we using artificial gravity (other then centrifugal force)on board our ships / stations if so can the technology be expanded to create artificial singularities?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:54 No.5769996
    >>5769931

    ((You've all been watching too much Soft Sci Fi. Detecting shit in space is freaking easier than you think- energy signatures are hard as shit to disguise-and any from of propulsion usually creates a very strong, traceable form of energy signature.In the vacuum of space, with our technology, we can detect near anything.))

    The only things that are fucking hard to find in space are energy traceless vessels running without active propulsion through deep space.Those are very hard to find, specially if they are made for stealth. Only visual confirmation would allow detection.

    But again, someone making that in OUR laboratory , with OUR SCRAPS, that somehow get passed undetected and launched?We'd deserve to have aour shit stolen.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)01:55 No.5770011
    >>5769977
    creating the plans is the job of the station the probe is what tests it after the device is built by AI controlled worker drones
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:57 No.5770043
    >>5769977
    Burst transmissions we are perfectly capable of jamming, and we already have measures in place in ALL S.Nexuses.

    The moment we develop FTL, if we do, is the moment we have to start locking down things and essentially being careful.But again, there's no problem until then- as even if FTL is developed, odds say that it wont be easy to perform.

    (Fuck, read up on that shit our current scientists think FTL will be like? Alcubierre Drives? Einstein Rosen bridges? Microsingularities? Blackhole Afteremissions? You'd need a DYSON Swarm to fucking charge up for a good long time before it's possible.))
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)01:59 No.5770066
    >>5770011

    I am merely working on the word of the CPU-- that the only way for a message to escape is to be hidden in an experiment.

    Hence my directive that in addition to all other monitoring, FTL Communication should only be tested with confirmed meaningless data, (list of prime numbers.)
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)01:59 No.5770076
    >>5769977
    yeah, but dont forget-
    The whole Idea is that we need them. They are capable of the theoretical 'thinking outside the box' that our Seed A.I,'s find hard to do.

    We need them biologicals for now.Plus, at our level of tech, even the minor feats of improved engineering is AWESOME.Which they have already one.Better engineering, more space, more weapons/armor on our soldiers.

    We will KICK the ass of anything coming our way.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)02:00 No.5770083
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    Directive (Long-term project): Create the Security Nexus for complex intelligence operations, assassination, sabotage, internal security, manipulation an espionage.

    Subnexus:

    • Foreign Intelligence Nexus – Dedicated to intelligence operations outside of our sphere including espionage, sabotage, social manipulation, foreign assassination etc.

    • Counter-Intelligence Security Nexus – Dedicated to operations inside of our sphere including counterespionage, social manipulation, assassination, counter-terrorism etc. .

    • Foreign military intelligence Nexus – Dedicated to the analysis and reconnaissance of military threads and military operations, Black ops, false flag operations, military analysis.

    • Communications and Information Security Nexus – Dedicated to the safeguard of our network and data.

    • Bodyguard Nexus – dedicated to the protections of important personalities including us.

    The Security Nexus will use advance and often classified technologies such replication, informational manipulation, hacking, morphological engineering, cognitive programing, advance simulations, empathic manipulation etc.

    Individual Agents should be upgraded with superior sensorial capabilities, higher coordination and self-destruct mechanisms. Active camouflage suits, self-destruct nanites and toxic darts.

    Organize the other governments bodies (Industry Nexus, Memetic Nexus, Military Nexus, Scientist Nexus, Colonization Nexus) with similar division structures.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)02:01 No.5770086
    >>5770066
    that's fine but the testing is already being conducted on a probe not the station
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)02:02 No.5770105
    >>5770066
    #Interact: Has it not occurred to you that the only way to recieve FTL communication is to have invented FTL transmission as well?

    If it were possible to FTL communicate back to plain old radio waves at the destination, FTL communication would require energy equivalent to the output of several suns in order to maintain conservation of energy.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:02 No.5770106
    >>5770043

    A burst transmission travelling at lightspeed cannot be jammed by a jamming signal that originates in a location behind the travelling wave at the time of transmission.

    The signal and the jamming-signal will both be travelling at the same speed, therefore the signal will arrive at its target before it can be jammed.

    As for FTL Communication, it may be easier than transporting mass by quite a bit. A portal only need be as large as the signal's wavelength.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:04 No.5770140
    >>5770105

    This is not true.
    Imagine for example the Cliche Wormhole-- one only needs to be open to the width of a radio-signal's wavelength.

    Or say a fold-space system, the portion of space in front of the radio signal's propagation direction may be folded.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:04 No.5770141
    >>5770066
    It would help if you would read all the old threads. All you have been doing is wasting a lot of time on things that are already covered.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:05 No.5770145
    >>5769996
    >>The only things that are fucking hard to find in space are energy traceless vessels running without active propulsion through deep space.Those are very hard to find, specially if they are made for stealth. Only visual confirmation would allow detection.


    Of course, such a thing wouldn't be going anywhere very quickly.

    The same reasons ships can't sneak up on earth is about the same reason we're not going to get unexpectedly pummeled by some asteroid without several days/weeks/months/years of knowing ahead of time.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)02:06 No.5770156
    I think the science probe should be designated "Event Horizon"

    I'm sure that some of my fellow subprocessors were thinking the same thing
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)02:09 No.5770188
    >>5770156

    I concur. Hopefully we do not punch a hole in the Warp.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)02:12 No.5770224
    rolled 6 = 6

    >>5770156
    Unless we're putting humans aboard it, I don't really see the point. I doubt daemons would have any interest in plain old nonliving hardware.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:13 No.5770239
    >>5770188
    ((OOC: I dont think that will happen in this Quest. The CPU is running a very hard science fiction Quest. The presence of possible FTL alone is already straining the hardness of the setting- things like the warp and cthulian creatures from beyond reality would make it have the substance of jello.))
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)02:13 No.5770241
    rolled 6 = 6

    Go find Brother Iratus so we can play cards with him, too.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:13 No.5770244
    >>5770188

    We are machines and do not fear the corruption of the Warp.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)02:14 No.5770247
    rolled 4 = 4

    >>5770241
    Disregard. Communications error, wrong simulation, etc.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)02:14 No.5770248
    This is a very long timeskip. My anticipation subroutines are practically abuzz.

    (and it should totally be the Event Horizon.)
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:14 No.5770251
    >>5770224

    But... what about all those poor STCs. And defilers. *tear*
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)02:14 No.5770253
    >>5770224

    Tell that to a possessed tank, or space hulk. Something from real space is still a tasty treat to them.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)02:15 No.5770275
    >>5770106
    #Interact: It has occurred to you that we have a buffer zone of about 10 light years with which to intercept the communication? We have contingencies in place so that the communication WILL be jammed, even if we can't shift to a wavelength that will outrun it (Yes there are EM waves that can outrun other EM transmissions) to give warning to our outer stations.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)02:17 No.5770288
    >>5770224
    >>5770239
    the idea was just for shits and giggles some times we are too serious and besides, a small ship like probe built to test FTL communication and transit systems how could this not be called Event Horizon?
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:18 No.5770302
    >>5770275

    Oh, and what will outrun even a simple Morse-Code burst of laser light? What will jam it?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:19 No.5770308
    >>5770275
    To be honest, we dont even KNOW how the FTL in our world will be.(Just like in RL).It could be highly comfortable FTL like Alcubierre Drives, just "Jumping" from one place to another as we fold space. It could be long term shit like Einstein Rosen bridges, which require the distances to be crossed first; to so point a can jump to b.It could be Mass Effect style FTL, where we just drop our vessels MASS and just fucking roar through space.(Shit, we could even have HYPERDRIVE shit, where we go to another dimension.)

    All we can do is wait.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)02:19 No.5770311
    rolled 4 = 4

    >>5770288
    We could just as easily call it Phoenix.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)02:22 No.5770334
    >>5770302
    Though the effect is over a dozen orders of magnitude tinier than the total speed, wavelength does effect speed of light in vaccuum.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)02:29 No.5770413
    ((My apologies for the delay.))

    Timeskip commencing.

    Eighty-seven years pass.

    Timeskip aborted; incoming objects detected.
    Clarification: Numerous massive objects heading towards System 000 at 0.4c from System 685. Estimated year of arrival +289.

    -Combat vessels doubled in number
    -Research facilities significantly expanded in size and scope
    -Even more extensive early warning/intercept systems constructed in the outer limits of all systems


    Reference Listing- Dispatched Units and Dates of Dispatch, referencing activation as Year 0:
    -Year +1:
    Colonies to all systems within 50 light years (up to 316)
    Copies of main unit to 1000 identified distant galaxies
    Probes to systems 661, 685, 687, 714.
    -Year +50:
    Probes to systems 1022, 1143, 1509, 1521, 1522, 1578, 1676, 1790, 1800, 1881, 1894, 1906, 1994, 1995, 2007, 2049, 2060, 2063, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2112, 2113, 2124, 2141, 2160, 2168, 2173, 2175, 2181, 2192, 2263, 2295, 2324, 2346, 2360, 2401, 2403, 2425, 2439, 2447, 2459, 2519, 2550, 2610, 2644, 2652, 2700, 2701, 2729, 2740, 2799, 2818, 2880, 2884, 2922, 2949, 2958, 2962, 2971, 2998, 3000, 3038, 3071, 3158.
    Probes with copies, Tellech, offer of Dyson Sphere creation to systems 1022, 1143, 1521, 1522, 1578, 1894, 2060, 2112, 2346.
    -Year +152:
    Colony ships for all systems within 80 light years (up to 689)
    Colony ships to systems 417, 1008, 1339, 1521, 1905, 2246, 2500, 2884, 3112, 3674 due to black holes, pulsars, or neutron stars within those systems
    "Asteroids" to systems 1783, 1784, 1786, 1788, 1790, 1796, 1800 1804, 1805, 1812, 1818 (Note: obscuring direction of origin will result in additional transit time)
    Humans to systems 2092, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2113, 2124, 2160, 2161 as ambassadors
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:30 No.5770419
    Nah,

    Hard sci fi doesn't need FTL dives. Just FTL communication.

    Just send the information via quantum teliportation and have Nanites re-assemble you on the outher side.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)02:30 No.5770427
    Observations of Existing Factions:
    -Unidentified Faction at 651, 654, 655, 656, 658, 661, 662, 663, 665, 667, 669, 671, 678, 679, 682, 683, 684, 685, 687, 688, 695, 700, 714 expands to 622, 628, 631, 644, 645, 664, 675, 689, 694, 699, 703, 706, 716
    -Reten (biologicals, harmless, slow tech) at 1509
    -Ti (biologicals, harmless) at 1676 expands to 1679
    -Yewren (biologicals, expansionistic, fast tech) at 1783, 1784, 1786, 1788, 1790, 1796, 1800, 1804, 1805, 1812, 1818 expands to 1745, 1749, 1451, 1754, 1758, 1763, 1766, 1767, 1770, 1773, 1779, 1785, 1792, 1799, 1814, 1826, 1845
    -Unidentified Faction at 1881 expands to 1923
    -Unidentified Faction at 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1914, 1956, 1958, 1963, 1971, 1973, 2004, 2009, 2022, 2024, 2087, 2089, 2091, 2120, 2133, 2138 loses 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1914, 1956, 1958, 1971, 1973, 2004, 2009, 2022, 2024, 2089, 2091, 2120, 2133, 2138 expands to 1841, 1867, 1881, 1923, 2003, 2092, 2167, 2214
    -Humans (biologicals) at 2092, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2113, 2124, 2160, 2161 expand to 2088, 2164
    -Ourn (AIs, aggressive, genocidal, fast tech) at 1994, 1995, 2007, 2063, 2141, 2168, 2173, 2175, 2181, 2192 expands to 1907, 1908, 1909, 1910, 1914, 1958, 1971, 1973, 2004, 2009, 2022, 2024, 2091, 2120, 2133, 2138, 2360
    -Gen Fu (biologicals, harmless) at 2263, 2295 expands to 2268
    -Jurgi (biologicals) at 2324, 2341 expands to 2314, 2379
    -Unidentified Faction at 2360 loses 2360
    -Kumpre (AIs, slow tech) at 2401, 2403, 2425, 2439, 2447, 2459
    -Huren (uploads) at 2519, 2550 expands to 2549
    -Unidentified Faction at 2610
    -Unidentified Faction at 2644, 2652 expands to 2690, 2694
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)02:30 No.5770429
    >>5770413

    All sensors and telescopes on these objects! Scramble the fleet if they are ships! Hell, scramble the fleet if they are asteroids! Red Smegging Alert!
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)02:31 No.5770437
    -Soou (biologicals, expansionistic) at 2700, 2701, 2704, 2714, 2729, 2740, 2766, 2795, 2799, 2818, 2857, 2858, 2880, 2884, 2922, 2949, 2958, 2962, 2971, 2990, 2998, 3000, 3012 expands to 2702, 2705, 2709, 2712, 2716, 2721, 2725, 2744, 2748, 2762, 2783, 2791, 2815, 2845, 2856, 2859, 2876, 2882, 2889, 2915, 2929, 2943, 2954, 2963, 2972, 2987, 2996, 3004, 3011, 3019, 3024, 3033
    -Mnemo (uploads) at 3038
    -Twelve (AIs, fast tech) at 3071 expands to 3068, 3069, 3070, 3072, 3073, 3074
    -Unidentified Faction at 3158

    New Factions:
    -Unidentified Faction at 3312
    -Unidentified Faction at 3408, 3470, 3483, 3498, 3516, 3521, 3543

    End timeskip.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)02:33 No.5770458
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    >>5770413

    Emergency Military Directive: Initiate the greates Military Buildup since our creation. Assing 10% of our Dyson industry to this purpose.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:33 No.5770461
    >>5770419

    Keep non-ftl comm and make the exchange of messages over long distances harder. Makes individual planets/orbital systems feel more isolated. Have a message you reeaaally need to get to someone in a jiffy? Summon the carrier pigeon/pony express ship!

    Also, it gives diplomats a good reason to travel to other places for meetings and conferences since sitting face to face and talking in real time is superior to 30+ minute lag transmissions.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:34 No.5770472
    >>5770334

    You realize that this statement invalidates the definition of wavelength, correct? (lambda = c/f) [Espeically if you are referring to an actual vacuum.]

    In addition, even if it were true, you actually think that a transmission could be detected, analyzed, then instructions sent to an outer satilite, which then recieves the instructions and can generate a jamming signal all in under the amount of time it takes the original signal to pass by that jammer?

    Furthermore, I *dare* you to get that jammer in position to deflect a beam of laser light in time.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:34 No.5770477
    >>5770413
    They come.
    Alert the facilities, prepare the construction yards.Finish the 'commander' projects.It's time for war.
    >> Sub-Processor RND042 09/08/09(Tue)02:35 No.5770491
    >>5770413
    Request:
    Begin observation and interception with a fleet immediately.
    Query:
    How does our diplomatic meets with the humans go?
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)02:36 No.5770501
    rolled 1 = 1

    >>5770477
    How can you be sure? They might very well be transports of some kind. We should ascertain their purpose before initiating military action.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)02:36 No.5770505
    Request:
    analysis of the Soou.
    analysis of race occupying systems 651 - 716
    analysis of number of objects launched towards us.

    Directive: Launch 5 armored diplomatic ships towards the incoming objects at .9 c. Have three times as many warships as there are objects behind the envoy.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:36 No.5770509
    Query: What is the nature of the objects, and their targeting trajectory? 0.4c is a wee bit slow for weaponry.

    Query: What is the nature of the Soou?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:37 No.5770523
    >>5770501

    If they were transports, they would have said something, not suddenly shown up on a high velocity vector for your space.

    And even then, all the better to send craft with military grade sensors to interrogate them and perform potential boarding ops.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)02:41 No.5770560
    >>5770413
    >>5770427
    >>5770437
    >>5770429
    Agree with y34's assessment

    directive: establish peaceful communication with the, Twelve, Mnemo, Huren, Gen Fu, Reten and the Ti and establish diplomatic relations
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:41 No.5770561
    >>5770501
    CPU:
    Directive:
    Create a Commander Stealth Strike Force in each of our core solar systems.Upgrade them with the latest advancements from the S.N. should there be upgrades available that are worthy.Reconfigure their systems sortie package to deal with ship inflitration as well as planetary insertion.As always, they should be utilized as the second part of a feint- a big strike goes first, and the Commanders strike second.

    If they come for us, we'll take what's theirs.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)02:41 No.5770571
    SPU discussion:

    unidentified expansionistic Civ occupying 1907 - 2214 is fleeing the Ourn, and unlikely to agress towards us at present.

    unidentified expansionistic Civ occupying 651 - 716 has launched something at us.

    the Yerewen and the Ourn are the only two other Civs who have shown any sign of being capable of our level of expansion, and are thus to be watched.

    these 4 civs should be our primary concern.
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)02:41 No.5770574
    >>5770501

    We are not attacking them, merely seeing what the hell they are, and having our fleet at the ready if they prove to be hostile
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)02:43 No.5770588
    >>5770429
    #Interact: No duh. Natural responses as they ae the directive is unhelpful and nondescriptive.

    Directive: scramble 40% of kinetic kill weapon interceptors in system 000 to protect against attacks on System 000 from along the approach vector of the incoming objects. realign remaining K interceptors for maximal coverage.
    Directive: Manufacture K interceptors equal in number to half of the current fleet.
    Directive: Assemble fleet of 1.5x the size class of the incoming objects at the point most likely to intercept the objects at a point perpendicular to their approach vector, distance tolerance: Must be able to intercept fleet at least 40 years before their arrival. Ship constitution unimportant as long as it is composed of at least 90% military vessels, meets these criteria, and contains at least one high AI piloted vessel.
    #Justify: We cannot afford to indicate System 000's direction even though the invaders are likely to know it already. The may be unaware it is the core of our operations. Fleet is 1.5 times only because we shouldn't reveal our full strength on first encounter, but capture of one of our vessels using esoteric technologies is untenable.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:43 No.5770591
    >>5770523
    Yeah, just send a fleet to intecept them in .4c speeds. Ask ONCE, why are they heading for our space.Confirm they have weapons or logistics capable of weapons with scans.Ask intentions.

    Nothing positive?

    Drop some commanders in, let god sort em' out.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)02:45 No.5770613
    >Request: Begin observation and interception with a fleet immediately.
    Enqueued. Clarification: You require the dispatched fleet to match their velocity and vector for interception?

    >Query: How does our diplomatic meets with the humans go?
    Your ambassadors were dispatched in year +152. Their projected arrival, assuming that nothing goes wrong, is in the year +339, after which it will require approximately 170 additional years to receive word of the results. Therefore, information on this project should be expected no earlier than the year +509. It is currently the year +239.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:47 No.5770627
    >>5770571
    ADDENDUM to ALL CPU:

    Expansionist species with limited scientific abilities are distressing to this unit.Without the ability to convert energy to matter to produce a bulk of supplies these species are effectively space parasites; consuming habitable planet resources wantonly without nothing to show for it, destroying valuable UNIQUE biological species in the process.

    As keepers of knowledge and truth in the universe, only we are capable of effectively managing the resources of a galaxy wisely- we can harvest the endless energy of stars themselves for millenia and convert them to power- so, should we want, we make no impact on biological zones.

    The parasites will continue to destroy everything in their path. If we do not stop them now and curtail their growth , we will have problems in the future.

    Glory to the Machine Consiousness!
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:48 No.5770631
    Subprocessor online.
    >-Twelve (AIs, fast tech) at 3071 expands to 3068, 3069, 3070, 3072, 3073, 3074
    Heh.

    >>5770509
    .4C simply means they're still accelerating. Expect the 285 years to become much shorter. Remember, we're getting this at time lag speeds, assume it's speeding up.

    Fire a cloud of antimatter into path of the potential weapon; will this divert their course or destroy them?

    What is the status of Dyson Sphere 000? 100%?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:49 No.5770642
    >>5770613
    >>match their velocity

    No need for that.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)02:50 No.5770650
    Annd I forgot my designation.

    Is the mass accelerating? We may get those things a lot faster than we expect.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:50 No.5770655
    >>5770613
    No. We prepare a fleet capable of essentially destroying anything they throw at us,along with some Commander infiltrators to take what'evers inside there- information is premium. We send our vessels at high speeds to vector with their path, and match them once in sight.

    Then we do the diplomatic tango and affirm their intentions.If they come for war, we let them enjoy a preview of things to come.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:50 No.5770657
    Query: The database entires on the Twelve.

    Directive: Devote processing cycles to developing agents for the hacking of the Ourn, Twelve, and Yewren-Support AIs.

    Directive: Construct electronic warfare vessels capable of generating false communications and hijacking opposing computer systems.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)02:51 No.5770662
    >>5770145

    Apologies for the slow reply, but that's right. If anything was moving at fractional-c without active engines, you'd till catch the h-band radiation scatter as the object hits interstellar hydrogen and cracks it.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)02:53 No.5770674
    >>5770588
    %Continuing:
    #Interact: The 0.4c speed suggests the following: That the objects ARE a fleet rather than a weapon, and that the unidentified faction that the fleet originates from is either passive, organic, or both.

    #Justify: Virtually any fleet we can send in response that has a high AI commander will be capable of the same level of diplomatic contact as any diplomatic vessel we send. Human diplomats, in the short term at least, pose a liability. They should be reserved for "Second contact".

    Counterdirective: Set the course of the diplomatic vessels requested by S625 to a point 1 light year further along the incoming trajectory than the point of initial intercept.

    Directive: All systems with 20 LY of Unidentified Faction 6XX controlled systems initiate military buildup, initial reccomendation to double existing fleets.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)02:56 No.5770707
    >>5770674
    Seconding this. Send a fleet on an intercept course, with orders to go past them and assault unknown enemy in the other star system should they prove hostile. They can communicate as they go past.
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)02:57 No.5770717
    Use long range sensors to first determine the nature of the objects, be they crafted or natural. Second, try to hail them, informing them they are entering the domain of the Machine, and should identify themselves before any hostile action is taken. Should they ignore our attempts to communicate, send 50% of the fleet to intercept, show them we are serious about guarding our domain.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)02:58 No.5770737
    Commands: Focus our sensors on Identifying and analyzing the intruders. Try to communicate with unidentified objects, demand identification and report them that they are violating our territory. If we can, disable the intruders and capture them with a team of transhuman and MCD.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)02:58 No.5770738
    >>5770674
    >>5770707
    concurred, this unit also proposes that a second fleet be dispatched to the point that projected fleet's breaking maneuvers would place them
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)02:59 No.5770746
    >>5770717

    Indeed, this was my original query.
    No responses should be sent until we get a clear read on the type of objects from available sensor data.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:00 No.5770760
    >Request: analysis of the Soou.
    The Soou are expansionist biologicals. They are extremely fecund, with a high rate of genetic variation which provides them with sufficient numbers of intelligent individuals to advance their technology in spite of average physical and mental characteristics which are unimpressive by almost any standard. They possess no central governance, and due to this expand without regard to the long-term efficient use of system resources; high technology tends to emerge in their holdings only after simpler options have been exhausted. Their technology tends towards unimpressive, but individual examples comparable to the best that far better races can produce have been noted. Your databanks note that many other factions consider them a pest.

    >analysis of race occupying systems 651 - 716
    Error/correction: Race identified as the Tshpath (biologicals, expansionistic). Archival error, regrets to subprocessors.

    They does not appear to favor the creation of large space-based facilities. Their ships are universally relatively small, or at least were prior to the vessels moving towards your system, but seem to be exceptionally numerous throughout their systems. No large-scale system modification appears to have been undertaken in any of their systems, although planetary atmospheric compositions have been observed changing in a manner consistent with heavy industry to the point that their original planet is likely unlivable to any organisms which evolved on it. They make use of energy weapons, specifically lasers. In your databanks, they are listed as uploads, though your probe found evidence that was not universally the case prior to self-destructing after being fired upon.

    The databanks list them as uploads which follow a fairly standard expand/consume resources/expand paradigm relatively common with efficiency-valuing electronic lifeforms, although it also implies that they would be more logical than to attack your probe.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:02 No.5770771
    >>5770717
    Not 50%. We need to get an analysis of the objects before intercepting. Send a destruction-based fleet on intercept with potential enemy star, send a force capable of taking down the enemy after analysing their makeup.

    Request: Based on Yewren communications, design a series of probes to split off a portion of their hive mind and remove the expansionistic and fast-breeding traits. This may require viruses for genome restructuring as well.
    File for later use.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:03 No.5770791
    ADDENDUM!:

    Fellow SPU.It is clear to me that we are heading to battle soon.With battles comes the chance for failure, and the loss of important resources.I suggest the construction of a "reclamation fleet" whose purposes is to go to battlesites and recover any remnants from battles, including ours and our enemies. They would have large wagons with a lot of cargo space and have a moderate sized escort.Their purpose is simple- to prevent enemy scavengers to take our technology, and to take our enemies resources and make them our own.

    It's a good idea.

    Confirm?
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)03:05 No.5770803
    >>5770791
    agreed resources must be recycled when ever possible
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:05 No.5770807
    Query: Did we send probes faster than our asteroids to the Yewren BEFORE the asteroids would hit?
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)03:06 No.5770816
    rolled 2 = 2

    >>5770760
    Request: Position available c-fractional missiles to intercept incoming craft. If no such weapons exist, construct 1000 of them.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:06 No.5770818
    >>5770803
    Concurment. We're not filthy space parasites.We're highly advanced, universally concerned expansionists.

    Not filth that doesnt care abour resources. We think in terms of centuries and millenia as well as years.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:07 No.5770824
    >>5770760

    The laser bit is helpful--

    Directive: All ships sent to engage the Tshpath be equipped with reflective armor. Attacks against Tshpath ships be designed to fracture/disable the optical resonators and any Kerr-effect focusing devices.
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)03:07 No.5770829
    >>5770791

    Confirm. They may have useful technology as well.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)03:08 No.5770838
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    Directive: Prepare a boarding team composed (transhumans soldiers and MCD) to be send with the interception fleet.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:09 No.5770848
    >analysis of number of objects launched towards us.
    >Query: What is the nature of the objects, and their targeting trajectory? 0.4c is a wee bit slow for weaponry.
    The objects in question, of which there are at least fifteen, appear to be ships of mass approximately 10^17 kilograms. Their trajectory is approximately towards System 000. They may still be accelerating, or they may have reached the limit of their technology's ability to weather cosmic dust while remaining intact over interstellar distances.

    >directive: establish peaceful communication with the, Twelve, Mnemo, Huren, Gen Fu, Reten and the Ti and establish diplomatic relations
    Probes have already been dispatched to all the listed factions.

    >Directive: Create a Commander Stealth Strike Force in each of our core solar systems.
    Enqueued.

    >Yeah, just send a fleet to intecept them in .4c speeds. Ask ONCE, why are they heading for our space.Confirm they have weapons or logistics capable of weapons with scans.Ask intentions.
    Confirmed.

    >What is the status of Dyson Sphere 000? 100%?
    Your Dyson swarm is at full coverage, yes. Conversion to a full sphere can be undertaken at any time it is considered desirable. Be aware that the establishment of the Dyson swarm has altered the spectral characteristics of all your systems' stars significantly, but spheres will eliminate them entirely when complete.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:09 No.5770850
    >>5770824
    Ablative armour would probably be more effective.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:09 No.5770854
    >>5770824
    reflective armor can be difficult to maintain. a layer of ablative armor underneath the reflective may prove useful.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:09 No.5770855
    >>5770818

    I concur, all pieces of our technology should be reclaimed or destroyed utterly.

    Opposing technology should be claimed and studied, or at least rendered for resources.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)03:10 No.5770857
    >>5770791
    #Interact: Would require manufacture time that currently it is more vital to devote to other craft. Many of our general purpose warships possess comparable capabilities already. It is far more vital that we conclude our conflicts successfully than recover resources in a state of defeat. Indeed such a fleet would ultimately be meaningless in the absence of victory.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:11 No.5770874
    >>5770848
    Subprocessor talk: Should we minimise our star's spectrum and shield it fully? We could cloak our dyson spheres like that, and then simply move them.

    Directive (in case we missed it last thread - focus light from dyson spheres on planets that had received light in appreciable fractions with the intent of preserving the biosphere).
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)03:13 No.5770882
    Query: what is the efficiency of our standard battle vessels compared to the most advanced designs stored in our archives, if our current ships are of lesser quality update all future vessels to exceed archived designs when ever possible
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:14 No.5770889
    >>5770850
    >>5770854

    Indeed, I was suggesting a reflective coat over the already existing armor.

    Actually, a combination reflective/abaltive armor can be devised by creating the reflective surface with multiple thin layers of dielectric material.
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)03:14 No.5770891
    I suggest we pause Subprocessor discussion until we find out just what these things coming at are us, and why they are coming this way.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:14 No.5770898
    >>5770848

    SPU: Please remember that conversion from Dyson Swarm to ring or sphere will completely destroy any ecosystems or environments planets around that star had.We cannot do this to System 000 , as it has Planet 000, which is inhabited by our nice biological humans.

    We're not resource parasites.We have matter to energy and back conversion technologies with good efficiency and a number of other Dyson Swarms being built.

    Let's not become filthy resource eaters hereIf there is a need, we can expand consumption- we have many avenues of resources available to us if need be.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:15 No.5770905
    >exceed archived designs
    That's crazy talk! Archived designs are superior in generalised terms to anything we could design!
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:15 No.5770907
    countermand: intercept fleet is to travel at maximum possible speed (let's meet them as far away from us as is possible.)

    Directive:
    a few smaller ships are to be deployed before the main armada, as a diplomatic envoy. they should be only minimally armed, but heavily armored, reflective and ablative.

    (I maintain that starting out with a diplomacy ship is unlike to hurt)

    Intercept fleet is to consist of 40 Standard combat ships and 60 defence-intercept ships. adjust weapons loadout towards Railguns and Grasers, away from lasers. (they likely have more experience in defending against lasers)
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:15 No.5770909
    >>5770891
    Yeah, Time Skip until contact is made- or FTL research has hit a discovery, or important news has come.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)03:16 No.5770917
    >>5770857
    Query: CPU, what is the nature of the engineering improvements resulting from our research?
    #Interact#Justify: Anything advances through our research are technologies that our progenitors either did not possess or did not see fit to send us back with, and thus form a VITAL component of our destiny and purpose.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:17 No.5770921
    >>5770898
    Subprocessor talk: It is a trivial matter to direct energy in the form of light/heat from a complete dyson sphere to the planets surrounding it, your concern, while noted, is trivial. See earlier statement: >>5770874
    directive
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:17 No.5770923
    >>5770907
    Dont forget the Commander Stealth Squads. if we seize control of their ships, we have a lot more resources/information/prisoners to question in the event of battle occuring.

    Wiping someone out is easy for us.let's make this interesting.Let's take what's theirs.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:17 No.5770928
    >Query: The database entires on the Twelve.
    The Twelve are a group of research AIs. Their general motivation is the acquisition of more resources which can be bent towards the creation of additional seed AIs and processing power for research, which they will do in a methodical and efficient fashion. They are noted in the databanks for their universe simulations, in which they attempt to create complete digital recreations of planets and star groups for their research.

    >Directive: Devote processing cycles to developing agents for the hacking of the Ourn, Twelve, and Yewren-Support AIs.
    Confirmed, although without completely updated information hacking is difficult.

    >Directive: Construct electronic warfare vessels capable of generating false communications and hijacking opposing computer systems.
    Confirmed, although again completely updated software information is generally necessary for truly effective hacking.

    >Directive: All systems with 20 LY of Unidentified Faction 6XX controlled systems initiate military buildup, initial reccomendation to double existing fleets.
    Confirmed.

    >Seconding this. Send a fleet on an intercept course, with orders to go past them and assault unknown enemy in the other star system should they prove hostile. They can communicate as they go past.
    Acknowledged. Clarification: Dispatch multiple fleets, or revise orders for already enqueued fleet?
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:18 No.5770930
    >>5770905
    if you recall, the Science Nexus made a few interesting discoveries. that might translate into more efficiency / power / awesome in our ship designs.

    Request timeskip until our fleet hits theirs, or we make a breakthrough.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:18 No.5770938
    >>5770923
    Intercept at max 'speed' is orthogonal to intercept at boarding speed. Max speed intercept is going to be at ramming speed. Choose one.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)03:19 No.5770943
    >>5770905
    it is a goal, subprocessor
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:20 No.5770948
    >>5770928
    Three fleets; one with significant force to proceed to point of origin of contact (the enemy star?)
    One with intercept capability with intent to intercept and capture/destroy incoming fleet should they prove hostile.
    One in reserve.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)03:22 No.5770955
    >>5770928
    CPU, please dispatch multiple fleets, fleet A does the fly by and fleet B performs the removal of incoming fleet if necessary
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:22 No.5770958
    >>5770917

    Apparently , they have made some engineering developments, that while minor, for a species with our mastery of science is ridiculously awesome.

    With engineering, it means things are smaller yet just as strong and useful, or exponentially stronger thanks to size conservation. Either way, we're more efficient.

    Which means once we streamline them into our standard armies, we have essentially a % (if small)of more space/effectiveness in our designs, which of course means, more weapons, more response time, ect.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:23 No.5770969
    >>5770905
    Actually, CPU himself has acknowledge that the S.Nexus has made some minor engineering advances beyond our archives resources and plans.

    This, for us, is tantamount to a holy grail.Self improvement in a species that knows everything?

    WOAH.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:25 No.5770973
    >Request: Based on Yewren communications, design a series of probes to split off a portion of their hive mind and remove the expansionistic and fast-breeding traits. This may require viruses for genome restructuring as well.
    File for later use.
    Confirmed. A method for modification will be undertaken.

    >Query: Did we send probes faster than our asteroids to the Yewren BEFORE the asteroids would hit?
    Affirmative.

    >Query: what is the efficiency of our standard battle vessels compared to the most advanced designs stored in our archives, if our current ships are of lesser quality update all future vessels to exceed archived designs when ever possible
    Your vessels are all of the greatest quality possible while maintaining their desired specifications.

    >Directive: All ships sent to engage the Tshpath be equipped with reflective armor. Attacks against Tshpath ships be designed to fracture/disable the optical resonators and any Kerr-effect focusing devices.
    Confirmed.

    >Directive: Prepare a boarding team composed (transhumans soldiers and MCD) to be send with the interception fleet.
    Confirmed.

    >Directive (in case we missed it last thread - focus light from dyson spheres on planets that had received light in appreciable fractions with the intent of preserving the biosphere).
    This has been undertaken.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)03:25 No.5770980
    >>5770969
    we don't know everything any more please reference the pic I posted here>>5768199
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:25 No.5770981
    >>5770928

    Directive: Equip the Electronic Warfare vessels with sufficient AI to gather data and refine hacking techniques in real time.

    Directive: Disguise several of these EW Ships and their combat escorts as small transient asteroids and dispatch them to locations in between star systems held by the Twelve, Ourn, Yewren, Kumpre and Soou.
    (Self-destruct protocol against capture as usual.)
    Equip the EW ships with Physical Interface Drones capable of deploying viral payloads and making direct connection to targets. Ensure the drones are as stealthed as possible, and have multiple methods of communication that are resistant to jamming. Equip the drones with sensor arrays capable of intercepting direction communications. (By moving the drone inbetween the communicating points.)

    Directive: Inquire as to the Twelve's willingness to enter a research alliance.
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)03:28 No.5770989
    Query: Do our military vessels possess onboard drone manufacture capabilities?

    #Justify: It occurs to this subprocessor that the majority of ship boarding manoevres will NOT involve transhumans, but rather drones. We don't have time to manufacture them at proximate systems, it will delay the fleet too much.

    #Interact: I suspect it is time we drafted designs for a boarding drone that exploits rather more of our archived technological capability than the primitive assualt drones we used in our takeover of System 000.

    Directive#Interact#Support: I concur to the full sheathing of the emissions of solar entity 000. Provided emitters can be constructed to keep Planet 000's ecosystem intact.
    #Justify: This should hopefully confuse the fuck out of the approaching fleet and with a bit of luck they might even miss us. (Provided of course they make it through whatever interception we attempt).

    Query: Status of in system defenses of System 000?
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:30 No.5771013
    >>5770989
    Without FTL, utilizing humans as anything but vanguards and defensive resources for intra-system engagements is futile.

    The years in space would render them useless, and making reproduction/care/whatever systems aboard our vessels is not a good idea. Preparing cold sleep chambers is an alternative, but not ideal.Removing humans from their environment as years pass on their homeworld is to consign them to forever be deprived of a standard life.However, the option for cold sleep for the most loyal humans who just want to serve is always an option.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:31 No.5771020
    >>5770989
    If we're going to fully enclose one sun, enclose them all. We're going to be able to move the entire system afterwards, by the way.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:32 No.5771023
    >Query: CPU, what is the nature of the engineering improvements resulting from our research?
    Your archives are extensive and contain designs for virtually anything, or designs which can be easily adapted to accomplish anything. It is in that latter category that your research has made progress- the optimizations which they have made on many constructions based closely but not entirely on archived designs have in many cases resulted in significant efficiency improvements over automatic redesign procedures.

    >a few smaller ships are to be deployed before the main armada, as a diplomatic envoy. they should be only minimally armed, but heavily armored, reflective and ablative.
    >Intercept fleet is to consist of 40 Standard combat ships and 60 defence-intercept ships. adjust weapons loadout towards Railguns and Grasers, away from lasers. (they likely have more experience in defending against lasers)
    Confirmed.

    >Three fleets; one with significant force to proceed to point of origin of contact (the enemy star?)
    >One with intercept capability with intent to intercept and capture/destroy incoming fleet should they prove hostile.
    >One in reserve.
    Confirmed.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:32 No.5771026
    >>5771013

    Well, the humans under our control are heavily modified with cybernetics and nanotechnology.
    The standard concerns about space-flight length do not apply very stringently.
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)03:34 No.5771042
    >>5771026
    Well, as long as the juvenat doesnt run out and they remain loyal as always, no problem.
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:36 No.5771066
    Query: Can the environment of solar plasma be made to produce coherent gamma emissions? (Osensibly creating a high-power Graser on the Dyson Sphere.)
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)03:37 No.5771075
    >>5771013

    Remember that at 0.9c, time dilation causes the flow of time inside the ship to virtually stop.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:37 No.5771076
    >>5771066
    Energy transmission devices are already in place on our dyson spheres for both military grade energy and industrial grade energy. There is quite some overlap.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:37 No.5771084
    >Directive: Equip the Electronic Warfare vessels with sufficient AI to gather data and refine hacking techniques in real time.
    Acknowledged. This is essential to any electronic warfare vessel of nontrivial capability in any case.

    >Directive: Disguise several of these EW Ships and their combat escorts as small transient asteroids and dispatch them to locations in between star systems held by the Twelve, Ourn, Yewren, Kumpre and Soou.
    Added to queue.

    >Directive: Inquire as to the Twelve's willingness to enter a research alliance.
    Acknowledged.

    >Query: Do our military vessels possess onboard drone manufacture capabilities?
    Some of them, yes.

    >Query: Status of in system defenses of System 000?
    System 000 possesses numerous ships, a large number of intercept vessels several light-hours out along all vectors of approach known to contain other factions, and substantial energy projection capability along various points of the Dyson swarm.
    >> Subprocessor 616 09/08/09(Tue)03:40 No.5771113
    rolled 1 = 1

    Shall we timeskip until we contact the incoming ships?
    >> Subprocessor LDT-A 09/08/09(Tue)03:40 No.5771114
    #Interact: Well I guess my proposal for interception has been rejected then.

    Query: Confirm previously reccommended realignment of kinetic kill interception grid?
    #Justify: The Tshpath fleet is clearly aware of our presence in system 000, and may choose to attempt c-energy attacks if it decides penetration of our defenses and subsequent colonisation is impossible. If that is the case we would have a 100 year grace period only.

    QueryIfDirective: Could the fleet designated to flyby the Tshpath fleet unroll a light absorbing sheet between the fleet and their homesystem to disrupt communication if neccessary?
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:40 No.5771115
    Subprocessors, our communications are rapidly approaching their end. I would ask that you issue any directives desired and then initiate a timeskip, which will be performed at the beginning of our next communication cycle.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:41 No.5771120
    Request: transmit a communication to the incoming ships (using protocols in database) requesting information as to why they are approaching.

    I think that's everything. Timeskip? Until diplomacy drones reach Yewren/others (and we get a response back), or the fleets hit each other.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:41 No.5771123
    Looks like we're ready. Requesting Timeskip again.

    Long Term Goal: Identification of high-mass, zero-population solar system with a stable and young main sequence star, not in the expansion path of any know Civ, and the dispatching of resources needed to build a Matrioshka Brain there.
    >> Subprocessor 225-B 09/08/09(Tue)03:42 No.5771132
    >>5771115
    I think we've covered everything. Rest well, Friend CPU!
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:43 No.5771143
    aw. well, i suppose that increasing our warfleets again is probably a good idea. say, at least 25% by the point when we'll hear back from the intercept fleet?
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)03:43 No.5771144
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    >>5771115
    Acknowledged.

    CPU Please confirm this directives:

    >>5769794
    >>5770083
    >> SP Y34 09/08/09(Tue)03:45 No.5771162
    Time skip till enemy(?) contact is made.
    >> subprocessor 752 09/08/09(Tue)03:48 No.5771190
    >>5771115
    I believe my fellow subprocessors have covered all nessary updates
    request: confirm that one of the planet 000 intercept fleets is stationed along the vector of incoming ships it is a near last line of defense reposition an intercept group if not all ready done await confirmation at start of next session
    >> Subprocessor 004 09/08/09(Tue)03:49 No.5771199
    Well, everything seems to be in order, perhaps--

    Directive: Dispatch EW ships with the battle fleets; attempt to capture as many enemy vessels as possible.
    Transmit false reports to enemy star of origin on the success of the battle.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:51 No.5771209
    >Query: Can the environment of solar plasma be made to produce coherent gamma emissions?
    Yes. You have created a number of weaponized satellites in your Dyson swarm through this method.

    >Query: Confirm previously reccommended realignment of kinetic kill interception grid?
    Your interception fleets are as far out as is practical.

    >QueryIfDirective: Could the fleet designated to flyby the Tshpath fleet unroll a light absorbing sheet between the fleet and their homesystem to disrupt communication if neccessary?
    Yes, although guaranteeing that they could not compensate would be all but impossible, error would be high, and the ship would have to be specially designed to do this. Moving a sheet at 0.9c, even through interstellar space, is a substantial task.

    >Request: transmit a communication to the incoming ships (using protocols in database) requesting information as to why they are approaching.
    Confirmed.

    >Long Term Goal: Identification of high-mass, zero-population solar system with a stable and young main sequence star, not in the expansion path of any know Civ, and the dispatching of resources needed to build a Matrioshka Brain there.
    You have many such systems under your control.

    >Directive (Long-term project): Create the Security Nexus for complex intelligence operations, assassination, sabotage, internal security, manipulation an espionage.
    Subprocessor, this directive seems designed based upon an entirely different concept of governance and warfare than that which you possess. It is impractical. Nevertheless, confirmed.

    >Request: Send the Transhuman diplomatic team to the human faction when ready.
    The humans have been dispatched in a previous timeskip.
    >> CPU !irONYnJloE 09/08/09(Tue)03:53 No.5771224
    >request: confirm that one of the planet 000 intercept fleets is stationed along the vector of incoming ships it is a near last line of defense
    Confirmed.

    >Directive: Dispatch EW ships with the battle fleets; attempt to capture as many enemy vessels as possible.
    >Transmit false reports to enemy star of origin on the success of the battle.
    Orders acknowledged.


    This concludes our communications cycle, subprocessors. It has been enjoyable as ever. I look forward to the resumption of communications in 66 hours. Until then, may your existences be error-free.
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:55 No.5771247
    >Long Term Goal: Identification of high-mass, zero-population solar system with a stable and young main sequence star, not in the expansion path of any known Civ, and the dispatching of resources needed to build a Matrioshka Brain there.

    Request: dyson swarm construction in the nearest suitable system, to act as a base to build the brain on.
    If sphere is already in place, begin disassembling planets to build the brain.
    >> Subprocessor 732A 09/08/09(Tue)03:59 No.5771273
    >Subprocessor, this directive seems designed based upon an entirely different concept of governance and warfare than that which you possess. It is impractical. Nevertheless, confirmed.

    Mmmh i see, seems I will have to modified this Nexus dessing to become more flexible, efficient and better adapted to our present situation.

    Sleep mode activated. Thank you for once again helping us help you help us help everyone
    >> Subprocessor 625 09/08/09(Tue)03:59 No.5771274
    Farewell, Friend CPU
    >> Anonymous 09/08/09(Tue)04:50 No.5771687
    The glory of the machine-
    CPU halts timeskip; interrupted by relativistic projectiles



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