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    428 KB Steamy punk Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:01 No.5578859  
    Steam punk, victorian fantasy rpg with aristocrat succubuses anyone?
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:07 No.5578931
    Yes, please.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:08 No.5578947
    So, how to evolve from that? Setting ideas?
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:12 No.5578985
    A setting with succubi has to answer a few existential questions, ironically none of which involve sex.

    1. How to get to succubi in the first place? Where are they from? If "hellspawn", why are they allowed to hang out with normal people? Are they hiding? If they are hiding, then remember, "secret!world" settings have been done to death and are for five-year-olds. Be more original.

    2. If not literal "hellspawn", perhaps just from another dimension, and if not hidden, how do "normal" people react to them? Is it accepted? Is seeing one something special, like " Hey, that's a celebrity!" or is it something special, like " Oh God, it's a horrible monster, fucking RUN!"

    From such questions, we can figure out the setting. A setting with open succubi aristocrats can treat them one of two ways- conquering gods (devils?) who tread the mortal landscape making normals quiver in fear, or as beautiful, exotic masters beloved by the populace.

    What's the answer here? It will change the whole setting.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:17 No.5579036
    I myself thought of it more like maybe Planescape.

    But well secret? Of course not, morely like a "better" human , more effiencent in business making themself a "master class" in a metropol of mix races. Perhaps humans have a big time struggling against other races really showing of their prowess.

    Then the classical "We are humans, average in all but we do anything, are many and breed with anything"

    Succubi aristocrats....succesful bastards. Bit like jews? :P
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:18 No.5579053
    I prefer a mixture of the last two - leaders, both feared AND loved; they are the rulers of the world (or at least the region), enslaving/hiring the populous using money, power, and sex.

    Origins, however, I'm not sure about. Unless they were some form of genetic manipulation?
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:33 No.5579231
    What about they choose pretty young girls to be converted in a painful process that destroys their humanity and makes them sterile, that way parents both hope and fear their daughters are selected
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:43 No.5579350
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    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:52 No.5579472
    I like this. It has a lot of potential to be pretty awesome, hasn't been done quite to death yet, and also gives us origin, a reason why they haven't totally conquered the entire world, and the option to create three different general reactions to them from the populace.
    1) Fear and disgust of a being that was once human and is now seen as a monster
    2) Reverence for beings seen as ascended humans, glorious icons of power, prestige, and sexuality.
    3) A mix of the two, fear of what they have (or might) become and a respect for what they were and the power they can manifest (might be useful in areas where a succubus rules the people like a tyrant, but holds even worse enemies at bay)

    I'm sure, of course, you could have more individual reactions than that, but those three seem like solid choices for whole societies/cities/villages/whatever.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)20:59 No.5579531
    some families could court the succubi in the hopes their daughter would remember them and become like a patrons. Others live in fear that their precious little girl will be stolen away in the dead of night and twisted into a monster.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:03 No.5579598

    The third option is the only realistic option. The horror of changing a human, and the wonder at being "more than human", would be... a complex mix.

    Just a note, though. Before we go all fuck-creepy and just make it women, add men as well. There's a reason there's an Incubi as well. Think of the devil, but in a tasteful tuxedo.

    A man of wealth and taste, after all....

    What powers would they get from this twisting process? And more, WHY would they get it? Something worse they've got to kill? Because every government has its own succubi/incubi and thus they all fight?

    Just because we have the technology, and we can?
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:15 No.5579766
    I think all "women" would be interesting because it would make the most powerful people in the world always "female". The process of creating succubi is just how they reproduce
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:19 No.5579817
    I know he's pretentious, but voltaire's "almost human" sets the tone for a ruling class of demons who enjoy their demonic lives, but still long for heaven having seen it, unlike humans.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:20 No.5579832

    >>5579472 here.
    Still strikes me as a little creepy, though. Having both makes sense, too - it's not like whoever found the first ritual would sit back, content with his/her results. The kind of person who works out how to perform arcane rituals from scratch is never the kind of person to be content with their success - they're too driven.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:21 No.5579850
    So, attractive young men and women are being taken (or given away) and being changed into succubi and incubi. By whom?
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:27 No.5579937
    who says these have to be summoned by some ritual? they could be originally some faction of dark entities that split away in an attempt to be non predatory towards humans, seeing themselves like shepherds or self made angels (they are definitely not angels, they have personal flaws and selfish failings) If you had both sexes they would be just vampires
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:28 No.5579960
    by the other succubi and incubi?
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:30 No.5579994
    - Other succubi and incubi?
    - By the authority of the King, who needs a strong noble class to keep the peasants in line (and who may himself be some kind of super-demon, or might just be a normal guy who knows how to play the diplomacy game so well that he can keep the demons he raises to nobility in check)
    - The jurisdictions the succubi and incubi control pick a new one by lottery to undergo the ritual whenever the old one dies (presumably NOT of natural causes)
    - A shadow government takes likely candidates and raises them to power to further it's own agenda (a terrible idea as far as storytelling goes, but good in a pinch for gameplay)
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:31 No.5580012
    cont...Perhaps they were originally just low rung temptress demons who were perhaps tainted by their flesh bodies or contact with humans and developed a twisted empathy
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:31 No.5580020
    I'm running with the idea that succubi/incubi are created from normal young adults/teenagers by performing a ritual upon them - see
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:33 No.5580042
    Fallen from grace in heaven, Lucifer and his demons were forced to live in Hell, emerging to tempt mortals. All of them, however, had known and longed for the divine. Lucifer himself still defied God. Where God was furious and unwilling to forgive such incredible betrayal, Lucifer was equally unable to forgive his condemnation. Slowly, dissent grew in the ranks. Finally, a second rebellion, and a second fall. One fallen choir of angels, now the Succubi and Incubi, was no longer welcome in the circles of Hell. With nowhere to go but the land between, they mourned both the loss of heaven and the loss of a chance to create the kingdom of Hell, and replace God.

    All was not lost, though. No longer demons by name, they pondered what they could do. Mankind was on earth for the same reason demons were in hell - defiance. Mankind, however, was able to be forgiven his sins; life was essentially one great trial. Used to tempting mortals, the Succubi and Incubi knew perfectly well how to lead humanity off the intended path set down by the Most High. Why not use their charm, their grace, their charisma, and keep the flock on the straight and narrow?

    And the wheels of demonic machinations to get Mankind back into heaven began, and with it, a chance to prove they truly were sorry, and wanted nothing more than to do God's work.

    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:37 No.5580110
    I was thinking that the succubi/incubi over saw and created the procedure. The reason being that they are unable to create new life themselves only to corrupt existing life
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:38 No.5580125

    This does still allow for a human to become one of the demons. They give up their chance of Heaven, but also cannot go to hell - they're reborn should they die. The ultimate sacrifice for the good of humanity, done to the willing once they find out what the demons are up to, or are told and invited to join their ranks.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:40 No.5580149
    ... not bad at all. I like it.
    This works too, although feel like you have greater flexibility in storytelling if you allow anyone to perform the ritual, at least while we're running a think-tank on world design
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:46 No.5580237
    I'd unbuckle my swash for her.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:49 No.5580280
    Expanding this idea further.
    Most of humanity is unaware of the demonic rulers' plans, hell, most people are no longer actually religious, because demonic-seeming beings appeared and didn't immediately go LOL WE CLAIM UR SOULS OMNOMNOM. This is all according to plan. After a wave of active unbelief, people stopped worrying about religion at all. When someone isn't thinking about God all the time, they stop thinking about how God may be wrong, stop being defiant, stop sinning in that respect. Victorian era begins just as the Demons are becoming normal, and their knowledge brings in a faster, more awesome industrial revolution with brass levers controlling superscience.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)21:58 No.5580398
    Hmm... Demonic Pirates.
    >> Anonymous 08/24/09(Mon)22:01 No.5580441
    And that's pretty much everything the OP asked for in a nutshell... hurrah!
    >> Dagda !hTbo821v7U 08/24/09(Mon)23:47 No.5581873
    OP's premise allows for a surprising amount of variety. Here's one example:

    The setting is magical, but only to a small degree- spells are always subtle things like minor curses, the best magic items are just relatively potent charms for good luck or protections vs. disease, etc. The minor fantastic elements make steampunk tech functional while still having progress rely on human innovation.

    "Succubi" are another result of another minor fantastic element: the increased potential of genetics. In this world, the careful breeding and natural selection that has occurred for centuries among the upper classes means that those of noble blood possess staggering amounts of natural beauty and charisma. Naturally, this has done nothing to reduce the amount of corruption and political backstabbing among such groups.

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