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    2 KB Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:50 No.5359618  
    Christianity is OP and the only faction that ever gets any updates. Us Hindufags are lucky to get a new codex every 5 years, but Christians always getting new codexs for all their sub-factions all the dam time.

    And don't even get me started on fucking Mozziefags.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:52 No.5359632
    And fucking marry sue Scientology
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:55 No.5359652
    God, I know, JC is giving them updates and then just pretending to care about the other factions. I play Jews, and let me tell you, playing with a BC codex? not fun.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:56 No.5359659

    You think being a Hindufag is hard?

    Try being a Zoroastrianism player, Christianity took all the best parts of our army, and we haven't seen a new codex in millennia.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:56 No.5359666
    I'm still waiting for the Islam update. SOME SUPPORT WOULD BE NICE.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:57 No.5359670
    >Plays Jews
    >Complains all the time
    I hate to reinforce stereotypes, but...

    You're mistaking them for a faction that's not a joke. They're not mary-sues, they're a parody of mary-sue religions like Rælism.

    Now, an religion that needs to be brought back? The Heaven's Gate Cult. I know what people say about them being the squats of religion, b
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)15:58 No.5359677
    dude i can't wait till the great old ones faction comes out.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:00 No.5359695
    Personally, I prefer being faction-less. It has higher INT and WIS requirements, but the payoffs are quite nice.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:00 No.5359707

    Islam is a one trick pony, all you can do is blow up your infantry.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:01 No.5359711
    rastafarian player here i have never had so much fun
    >> Toy Store Anonymous !wImXn9Y2hw 08/06/09(Thu)16:01 No.5359712
    You know, yeah, some armies might be more powerful, and get more updates, but I just love my fucking Discordians. Who cares if they don't get all that many updates?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:01 No.5359714

    Isn't that post number a little telling.
    >> Writefag Chronicles !V.5EQ3NBG6 08/06/09(Thu)16:02 No.5359716

    You should try People's Temple. They're pretty great, I just had this Kool Aid and I think I'm going to gr
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:02 No.5359720
    I like the Zorastrianism fluff, but it's just not as competitive as the other factions.
    Christianity is like fixd Zoroastrianism, just without the cool fluff
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:03 No.5359726
    Five tons of flax.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:03 No.5359732
    i'm thinking of building a greek orthodox army. what units should i be purchasing???
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:04 No.5359736
    what are you talking about. i'm an atheist fag and we havent had an update in a few milenia.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:04 No.5359741

    No, Jesus is Mary sue. Oh look at me - my daddy is Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient, but we're actually the same person lol.

    Everyone fucking loved him and the ones who didn't killed his ass. He dies quicker than any crusifiction, and fucking comes back to life. What the fuck? I raged at the end of the codex. Worst fluff ever.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:06 No.5359749

    You'll want to take plenty of Missionaries, and Saints Cyril is a god-tier HQ choice.

    And don't underestimate the effects of Icon-bearers, the Moral bonus is totally worth the cost.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:07 No.5359761
    jesus is my DM
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:08 No.5359768
    Fluff-schmuff, I can't tell you how often the resurrection rule turned the tide of battle in my favour.

    Personally I like to convert my Jezus miniatures from old Greek Polytheism figures. Can be done with minimal effort.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:08 No.5359770
    Are you kidding? You got that jackass Dawkins. I mean, he may be the most worthless hero ever, but he's still there. You get new science units all the time. Obviously you don't know how to play.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:10 No.5359793

    You're talking about JCRP. In this thread, Jesus is my Warmaster.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:13 No.5359811
    what about the hare krishna faction?? they any good?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:14 No.5359820
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    The only good army is christianity and all ya'll complaining need to shut the fuck up or convert.

    Rollin' with my protestant bitches!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:15 No.5359826
    Agnosticfag here

    >> Guardsman Ted 08/06/09(Thu)16:17 No.5359838
    r u fkcin kiddin OP??? atheism got a codex last! ther lik cheese all over. I meen, look at ther darwan unit! fckin op as shit. L2P nub.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:17 No.5359839
    So I'm playing a Christfag, right. I'm a Pastafarian. My army is 3 giant Flying spaghetti monsters (which I had to proxy with bases, because they're invisible.) and a horde of pirates. Not those stupid new age African pirates, I'm talking old edition swords and cannons.

    He has like 10 Conservative republicans. All in business suites, unarmed. So I'm like, this is going to be fucking easy. He goes first and tries to cast money on my pirates. But I'm all like the only good booty is dead booty, right? So in his turn he does nothing.

    My turn. My pirates fire their cannons and approach the republicans. I wipe out all but 1 in my turn. Next turn I'm thinking total rape. My opponent seemed calm though, like he was going to win. I was all "give up man" and he replies "God has a plan, lol"

    So his turn again. He tries the money shit and it does not cast. He then pulls out a baseball bat and whack all my models off the table. He then says "that counts" and runs out of the game store.

    Fucking Christfags.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:17 No.5359843

    I hate this. Every time someone starts a thread about competitive Hadjizilla list, the first reply is always PLAY CHRISTIANS. If I want to discuss my favorite faction, the Pythagoreans, and strategies for them I don't want to see PLAY CHRISTIANS.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:18 No.5359849
    Bitches don't know about my Dawkins lists.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:25 No.5359899
    You think the atheistfags have it bad? My Norse codex was just updated 30 years ago, and you know what it was full of? Fucking useless neopagans and hippies. What the fuck is that shit? Back in the day, my Thor HQ choice was pretty much unbeatable (except this one time where another Norsefag was fielding Jörmungandr. Fucking hax). Now I have to field 60+ year old hippies as my main troop choice. Fuck that shit.
    >> BowlerHatMan !!hZDPsoEDBxR 08/06/09(Thu)16:26 No.5359903
    They're lowering the point costs for our troops though. Kinda helps that in the updated codex they're merging Atheists, Agnostics, and Secular Humanists together. Not only that but a lot of troops are losing the "Blind with Fanaticism" rule that opponents were using to bait our smaller numbers into unfavorable wars of attrition.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:26 No.5359905
    I hate playing against atheists, they're the kids who decided that they can't figure out how to play the game so instead they just try to ruin it for everyone else.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:28 No.5359925

    Shit, yeah. You wanna talk useless lists? Try fucking Wicca. Nothing but middle-aged balding men with blunt ceremonial daggers and fucking sagtitted hags with cauldrons. You'd think a spellcasting army would be god tier, but all their curses are useless. Ok, I can cause the opponent's HQ unit to lose "a significant amount of money in the near future", or "fall victim to unrequited love". Shit. I tried switching to Satanists but their codex was even more useless, and every unit thinks it's an HQ unit. It's retarded.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:34 No.5359975

    Can't imagine anyone actually playing as the Satanists in a real tournament, though. I mean, that special rule where they instantly lose if they fight the Christians. Weak. Of course, that's only in the Christian codex, and there hasn't been an official ruling yet, either, but it's still pretty lame when you play a 12 year old Christfag and he pulls some Second Coming shit on you. How are you supposed to win? You don't. You lose. Sure, you can try to hang on with your Antichrist as long as possible, but he's going down eventually.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:34 No.5359976
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    Bitches don't know 'bout my enlightenment.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:36 No.5359989

    go back to you're weeaboo faget
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:38 No.5360006

    It's a bit like watching the last episode of Evangelion. The universe suddenly turns and says: "HURRDURR! I TROLL'ED YOU!"

    And you are like: "Oh bitch, you've been fucking with me all this time. Well, lol and fuck you too."
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:41 No.5360035
    lol op, Hinduism for weeaboos
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:44 No.5360054

    Stop using that word. Hinduism isn't even slightly weeaboo. It's Shintoism that all the weeaboos are crazy about.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:44 No.5360055
    Meh, new catholicism sucks!
    You used to be able to get crusaders 'n shit. Now your troop choices are fucking old ladies!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:44 No.5360056
    Why is it Buddhism is the only faction that gets really good close combat infantry these days? Christianity hasn't had any since they had that big storyline against the Muslims. It's like the whole game is about the shooting phase, now.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:45 No.5360067
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    So I bust out my Xomian army: chaos knights, wanderers, and demonspawn against a Christianity player, and first turn, rolling for Xom's influence, all my weapons become animate and hostile, while my HQ demonspawn is surrounded by angry demons. 1st turn tabling, and without the other army even taking a turn.

    Fuck you Xom...I love playing your armies, but you're such a dick.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:45 No.5360069
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    Real weeaboo faction here.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:46 No.5360073
    I hear the metagame will go back to close combat after the "World War III" campaign though.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:47 No.5360077

    Hey, now you Catholicfags can equip the Popemobile on your HQ choice. Makes him practically invulnerable. You don't get to complain just because you lost some malnourished losers. Sure, the crusader elite choices were pretty badass, but the troops choices sucked back then.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:47 No.5360082
    Well, they said they wanted to differentiate the two factions. I mean, both were strong on melee.

    Now the other one is a ranged army and the other one has that deep striking self destruction gimmick.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:48 No.5360088

    They've been saying that for the past 60 years, and I haven't seen an update yet.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:53 No.5360130
    So I heard the orthodox will be getting an update next.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:53 No.5360131
    OP, get a real army like Christianity. They get the most attention becuase they're the best army.

    everyone else is just butthurt
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:54 No.5360144
    I'm playing the Unitarian Universalist dex. I can just pick units from everybody else's lists, as long as I don't have any special characters... but the new edition special characters all kinda suck. I mean, really, Dawkins? Cruise? Khomeini? Bring back the god-tier characters, plox
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:58 No.5360176
    So I was playing with my animist aztecs against my enemy's christians. I had a huge numbers advantage and thought I was gonna win when suddenly HURR DURR PLAGUE!
    I'm telling you, christianity is fucking overpowered!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)16:59 No.5360186
    Lol atheistfags, enjoy being bricks in wall of souls and no afterdeath gameplay.
    +5 to cool kid is just not worth it.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:00 No.5360191
    I bet he still had points to give his units imunity too didn't he?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:01 No.5360207
    Lots of Atheist players are in it for the modeling. Their wargear looks all grimdark and "cool," so they just hop on board and fuck the fluff and gameplay. Fucking pseudo-intellectual gothfags.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:03 No.5360218

    What wargear do they have, other than Webcam and Internet, for their angrynerd units to tie up others in endless pointless arguments?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:04 No.5360225
    >It's Shintoism


    You mean...the religion that has a sect that's all about slappin' demons, gods and ghosts with your gigantic invisible penis? And impregnating comely wenches so that the rice might grow this year too?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:04 No.5360229
    Of course I didn't give my units immunity! It goes against the fluff. Besides, you already need to give your units obsidian clubs and shields, immunity ups unit cost even more. You can't have a horde army without sacrificing at least a few things.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:06 No.5360250
    Well, their heavy support choices (specifically Fat Chicks and Tall Scrawny Pale Motherfuckers) can select wargear from the special Hot Topic list. It's not actually that good, but they seem to think it looks really awesome, so they play it without any regard for good story or gameplay.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:08 No.5360263
    No I mean the christfag bought plague and still had enough points for immunity.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:08 No.5360267
    >Good Story
    >Atheist Fluff

    I c wut u did thar
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:10 No.5360275

    I keep fucking telling you guys. Just pick up the new Episcopalian codex! Fuck, sure you miss out on that bad ass Pope HQ unit, but between the Bishop council, the Power of Money, and that whole gay bishops thing being cleared up in the new FAQ, Christians are BACK baby.

    Of course, we're never getting a new model line. Seriously, all metal? I get, what, four different poses for the WHOLE ARMY?! I'm SICK of converting all of my HQ's from the old, discontinued Roman Catholic line!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:10 No.5360276
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    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:12 No.5360290
    I heard the updated atheist codex has zombie survivalist preps, they cost a lot of points and have the same stats as normal people but they get a bunch of bonuses against undead and mutant
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:12 No.5360293

    Atheists have some of the worst fluff in the game, second only to Satanists, since theirs is just a rehash of Christianity, but with more spikes and devil horns strapped on.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:13 No.5360296
    Maybe that's why he had so few guys.
    You know what I'm sick of? Those campaign that are going to CHANGE EVERYTHING GUISE but end up doing jack squat. Like the crusades campaign: hey the christians are gonna attack the middle east! Oh nvm they got pushed back. Oh look they're gonna try again! Oh nvm, they attacked the orthodox instead (which was seriously unfluffy)
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:14 No.5360301

    I'm a greek orthodox player myself, and I roll with St. George.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:14 No.5360305
    Yeah the immunity and plague combo is a big gamble since your opponet might have immunity too
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:15 No.5360309
    I wouldn't mind atheist fluff if it were more consistent, but it keeps getting retconned. Even simple things like, I dunno, THE SHAPE OF THE GODDAMN PLANET.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:15 No.5360311
    Yep, crying shame too. Remember back in the day when they used to get communists? Damn those were awesome.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:15 No.5360312

    Seriously. Wasn't the whole Second Coming thing suppose to play out at the end of the Rogue Missionary storyline? Like, in FIRST FUCKING EDTION?!

    And here we are, some FOUR editions later, and guess what? Nothing's happened!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:16 No.5360321
    Someone hasn't seen the latest Armageddon rulebook's section for Aetheists. If they've got Dawkins still standing at the end of the first phase, that's it - there is no after-death phase, that's what makes the Aetheists deadly. They don't have shitall for Divine Powers, but science power creep is catching up - and if they can hang in there and knock out your own HQ, it's all over.

    Also, am I the only one seeing more Muslim tourney lists since their last update? Just the other day, I watched a full group of Catholic Bible Beaters with Angry Mob Rule and Tongues go down hard to a charge from a small unit of Black Panthers (Black Power upgrade) and Malcom X, craziest rolling I've ever seen. I know the Al Queda suicide-bomber cheese lists are pretty big right now, but you can't underestimate the classics. Too bad that rumor about Obama being in the new codex turned out to be a fake, would have made an nice change from the standard Ayatollah you see in diplomacy lists.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:17 No.5360325
    Yep. I did give some of my units syphilis (and immunity to it), though. But my dice rolls sucked and only a few guys got killed.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:18 No.5360329

    Oh, I haven't tried out Armageddon rules yet, only small scale skirmishes with my horde of Mall Rats and Internet Tough Guys.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:20 No.5360345
    Science powers are getting handed out to other factions though. It doesn't matter much, because it's one of the faction traits taken from some of the older edition Christian books and put into another faction.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:20 No.5360347

    Armageddon is so broken, Christfags can take pretty much any unit from the Western World and the only Communist units Atheists can still take are Chinese and African Rebels.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:20 No.5360350
    Anyone wanna help me make an african animist list? It's mostly for dueling with my mate who plays african muslim and occasionally secular humanist U.N. (though those have really shitty leadership)
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:23 No.5360365
    Pretty much anyone can take Chinese at the moment, who in fluff are the most common unit for any faction technically. The units are really varied too, with loads of undercosted ones too.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:24 No.5360372
    I picked up the Aussie Aboriginal codex, and you know what? They barely even get a fucking army. It's shit. Same deal with all the indigenous religions. Either they have no fucking army, or their units are shit. Religion really jumped the shark when they decided to only do updates on Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and those Chinese religions. They really ought to bring back support for Judaism, because there are a few tournament-level players who can do some crazy shit with a jew army.

    The African codices were pretty awesome, though. I knew this one guy who could use his army to totally fuck up a christfag army, even though he was insanely overpowered.
    Now they pull some bullshit "lol now they're all christian or muslim." Fuck that shit.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:24 No.5360373
    I forgot which but one of the factions gets a Genetically altered disease or something like that, it kills everyone in the second phase who doesn't use "Develope Cure" ability which only Elite tier Scientist can get points into
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:24 No.5360374
    Hey guys! I just found this old copy of 2nd Ed. Alchemist Codex! It's pretty sweet, and you even get Newton as an HQ!

    I'm so excited, I don't know what to do.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:24 No.5360375
    You know what's strange? When you do the rape special action you lower enemy's morale, right? And when your have the syphylis ability you kill enemies who use rape (unless they have immunity or protection), right? So if you reduce an enemy's regiment to less then a quarter of its number with syphylis, do they have to take a break test?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:25 No.5360377

    oh god I so hope this a troll, no one could really be stupid enough to try that.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:27 No.5360399
    Why? They got better units then most shamanist factions. Hell, you ever tried playing inuits against, say, Lord's resistance army?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:27 No.5360400
    Leibniz is probably a better character though, but I guess he's not available for that army.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:28 No.5360405
    Yeah but the rape action decreases ability to convert for some factions
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:29 No.5360411

    I'd consider the Children Soldiers. Sure, they have crap for stats, but their cheap and their guns hit just as hard as anyone else.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:29 No.5360419
    Christianity's kinda been sucking as of late. No more Crusaders (Don't care what you say, Holy Rollers and a Preachah are nowhere near as good) sucks ass, and the new Pope just doesn't fit as well with the traditional Cardinal retinue as Benedict did.

    I think the main problem is that there's not a lot of "average" faith units that are any good - to win, you gotta field either godless heathens or zealots. The low faith scores of the average unit means that, unless you got Jesus hovering over their shoulder, they're gonna break and run at the first sign of trouble, so he's gotta play babysitter or there'll be failed Sin checks across the board.

    At least they'll always have Conservative and Pro-Lifers, I guess, so it's not like they got gutted.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:30 No.5360422

    The Alchemist codex was awesome. Too bad when 3e came out they were declared illegal. I mean, the Natural Philosopher codices and later the Science abilities were pretty much the same thing, but the fluff was completely different.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:30 No.5360424

    Not if they were using the Colonialism expansion. Shamans are awesome in it becuase their spells get effect bonuses vs Western Armies.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:31 No.5360429
    Children soldiers never hit anything worthwile. They're mostly for clearing mines 'n shit.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:31 No.5360430

    Yes, but, the army itself offers plenty of Science-based special rules, and a dabbling into Spirituality. Win/win, if I do say so myself, a take-all-comers army.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:32 No.5360445

    Wait, illegal? I thought there was errata for it.

    Oh well. That is disappointing, to say the least.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:36 No.5360470

    Take Japanese Zen then. It's a bit of a mixed bag though. If you're using the 1940's AD codex, they get some awesome infantry with a free rape move every game that is immune to moral tests. Best army for small, heavy terrain games. They ain't got no support though. Tanks are shitty, expensive and only armed with machine guns and you can't take planes as support options for your infantry either, like most christian capitalist armies.
    They've got the edge in biological warfare in that codex too, but that means little as biowar's only slightly more powerful than it had been in the last 3970 editions.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:37 No.5360486
    One of the problems with african armies fighting each other is that it pretty much dissolves in both armie trying to rape the other one's units so that their morale lowers enough for their army to break. However, rape also heightens growth rate, which means the other guy will get more units and thus get a numbers morale bonus. This leads to a rape war that can go on for a LONG time.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:39 No.5360501
    Dude, I don't know why everyone is bashing Atheists. My army lowered like every Christfags faith points with my "common-fucking-sense" Ability. Well, all the one's that weren't in Jesus's 6" in range.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:39 No.5360503
    Man, being a Muslimfag sucks. The other day a dude tried to fucking decapitate me for "misunderstanding" the codex. And this is after he tried to shank a dude for playing Christians-I had to physically hold him back.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:40 No.5360515
    >Children soldiers never hit anything worthwile.

    They are cheap and you don't have to roll moral test every time you attempt a terror move. That's what sucks about american units. I hope they'll fix that in the next edition as you absolutely can't play the game without terror moves these days.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:40 No.5360516

    Originally it was going to be errata'd, but they decided to just nix the whole thing and re-publish the parts they wanted to keep. Then they used it as a pretext to apply the overpowered Science abilities to whatever armies they wanted to keep around so that those armies would wipe the floor with the indigenous religions so nobody would want to play them. Then they'd quietly discontinue support of the indigenous religions. To get the Science powers to work, they had to basically rape the fluff of all the religions and declare that divine power didn't fucking work. That shit was a big part of the game since way back in 1e, and they just replaced it with overpowered fluff-raping bullshit.
    And I bought every science codex before I even found out about the earlier edition fluff.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:40 No.5360519
    Yep, plus you can't really defend against rape with africans cause anything better then rickety huts and wooden walls costs a fortune.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:41 No.5360525
    Kind of a tall order there, but your best shot is to either do a Tinpot Dictator w/AK-47 & Feel No Hunger and some Diehard Generals. Go gunning for any UN Aid guys before they reach your troops, which will prevent them from running off the board or worse, defecting.

    I'd normally recommend a Tribal Leader with some Trackers and an Elephant, but those will only do you much good against the Muslim's Fantatics - the suicide bombers you see everywhere nowadays will negate your auto-cover saves and blow your Spearmen to hell.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:41 No.5360526
    I heard Maya is getting a new update in 3 years, suppose to give them a cool new epic ability. Might be only rumors though
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:41 No.5360536
    The Common sense ability doesn't work like that. You didn't read the rulebook properly, I'm afraid.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:42 No.5360544
    They've been saying that for the last 300 years or more. Too bad they'll never get a new codex.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:44 No.5360552

    Yes, but this rumor sounds legit. I heard it from a friend of a friend of an avid follower of Maya who heard it from a website who says they had a leak from the publisher.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:44 No.5360553
    The common sense ability only helps your guys against conversion checks, units already converted can use the ignore ability
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:44 No.5360560

    Actually, it does work like that, but only on units with a really low faith score. For christian armies, there are almost no such units, so it's really a moot point.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:46 No.5360574
    I once saw a Muslim player grab another Muslim player's female models and try to drip acid onto their faces because they weren't wearing scarves or some shit. I
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:47 No.5360589
    Anyone remember that Wiccan wannabe faction?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:48 No.5360597

    I like taking gangs of them and marching them into the gun lines. You either shoot them, or they get into range and chew you up through numbers. And you've got enough of them to bog down almost any Elite or Fast Attack unit in the game.

    Sure, you've got to paint a million of them, but quantity has it's own quality, I say.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:48 No.5360598
    The problem is the majority of Atheist troops don't have that ability and are subject to the "Arrogant" special rule unless they're accompanied by a Lecturer or Liberal Democrat that add to their overall cost, and they still could fail their CS check against Preachers and (god forbid) Neoconservatives. It's generally a better idea to take the higher point units with auto CS, or you'll be watching your groups try to butt heads with Zealots all game long, which can only lead to disaster.

    Speaking of Neoconservatives, haven't seen a lot of them around lately, although they used to be pretty big in Christfag lists.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:48 No.5360599

    Everyone's saying this so-called "leak" was completely made-up. It's just something one of the fans came up with when he thought he came across something in the fluff that supposedly said something about a major update, but it turns out he got the fluff wrong. It was just a forum troll.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:48 No.5360604
    Anyone ever played against an Asatru player? Thor is so gamebreaking it's not even funny, and don't even get me started on Odin Allfather.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:48 No.5360606
    >Anyone wanna help me make an african animist list?

    Take at least three witch doctors, a christian, a muslim and a animistic one and pick the "Charismatic leader" and the "New Religion" feat for your leader. Yeah, I know that that command unit's a point sink with shitty morals and zero combat abilites, but the witch doctor's charms will grant all of your infantry a reroll on the wounds they recieve from muslims, christians and animist infantry and that's worth something. Plus the witch doctors curse can stop them from fleeing quiet often too.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:48 No.5360609
    Yeah, that's the biggest problem with all african factions actually. It's like playing a really boring game of FATAL.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:54 No.5360655
    If you want to go against muslim bombers, go hindu. Some of their units have an attack bonus against muslim units.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:57 No.5360676
    /tg/ seriously needs to get some rules for this game! Let's get shit done, guys!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)17:57 No.5360684
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    It's not my fault the other player for got about his ignore ability. But who could blame him, I used the incantation in pic related. Long story short, my army doubled and we took down Jesus. But I got no victory points because he fucking comes back to life. God damn Jewish zombies.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:00 No.5360696
    One thing that gets to me-all of the various subfactions of Christianity all insist that only their subfaction actually gets to use Jesus.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:00 No.5360700
    Remember all that Christian/greek Fluff about Dragons, and Giants and shit, but we never saw them on the field?

    Yeah, after that I never gave those codex so much as a passing glance.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:01 No.5360709
    Anyone ever play against scientologists? God, they're annoying! Their lawyers are so damn overpowered! Sued me so hard I had to get rid of half my forces.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:02 No.5360716
    >If you want to go against muslim bombers, go hindu.

    You could play russian too. They're about as good as american units, get boni against muslims and can perform terror moves. The problem is that you've got to roll for rape vs your own unit at the beginning of every turn from turn tree onwards, wich is sort of annoying.

    Or chinese, but there you're either stuck with units with the base-line stats of africans or the fucking expensive new units, which makes them very much play like an XBOX HUGE euro army with cheap support options.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:05 No.5360726
    I remember, way back in the Second Ed, I played a guy who claimed his Thor list was unbeatable. I'd never run into a list my Greek Pantheon (Who were pretty outdated even then) hadn't been able to stand against, so I took him up on it.

    Even though his list was a textbook cheese one (He had Loki all kitted out and infiltrated for start, and an Epic Bard with every squad of Bearded Raiders that would've flattened conversion lists at the time), they still dropped like flies to Zeus' Bolts of Wrath, and made the terrible mistake of letting my Mortal Legends squad (Hercules, Achilles, Odysseus) chariot drive right up to cut down his Saga-keeper to eke out a win. Never before have I seen such neckbeard disbelief. I think he still plays though, despite the lack of new codex in forever.

    Good times, good times. Shame they discontinued the Pantheon after that (Though I will admit they were broken as hell, and probably deserved it).
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:05 No.5360731
    Don't try to overdo it on the child soldiers: you need to have normal soldiers nearby for the child soldiers to be able to work properly. Also, african infantry (except child soldiers) has killer movement speed.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:08 No.5360750

    What are you talking about? There are already rules. What do you think we're playing?
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:10 No.5360759
    >I picked up the Aussie Aboriginal codex, and you know what? They barely even get a fucking army. It's shit.

    Wait for the "Age of Aquarius" update. That'll grant the Abbos Dreamtime Move, which basically means that you can move terrain pieces every turn. It'll also make the other esoteric armies and even the green anarchists playable. Of course everyone will call us "cheesy", but look at our fucking infantry! And we only get infantry, nothing else!
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:11 No.5360764
    Thats why Atheists suck. Can't get in melee with any of the other armies.

    Sure it's nice being immune to like 1/2 the enemy attacks and having lots of shooty guys but fucking Christianity can either just A. field tons of rednecks /w custom shotgun wargear or B. bring in Soldiers, attach a Chaplain to them, and just say "lol well they got a chaplain and anything /w chaplain i can field so there"

    Broke as hell.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:13 No.5360774
    This thread wins!
    Flawless victory!
    Also, archive this.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:14 No.5360782
    Already put the archive request on suptg
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:18 No.5360812
    Don't even get me started on Apologists. Their WS is so shit right now that nobody'll bother, but if they ever reinstate the generational rebellion rules, the creep will be staggering. Christian units with Common Sense AND Moralism? Bullshit. Their faith is pretty low but that just means that everyone'll stick a Latter Day Saint in the unit and have an invincible conversion machine running around the board. Put a nun with catechism and a ruler, and you've got them running an extra 6".
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:23 No.5360860
    Oh man, Hindus can be brutal, especially those who play Smartha. Saguma Brahman is a beast - he mows down just about any non-Deity unit with the variety he brings to the table (even more than Jehova!). May whatever deity you worship have mercy on your troops if he rolls Shiva for his "Form of God" at the start of the turn, because there's not a thing in the game that can slow him down - you just gotta run and hope he rolls worse at the start of the next phase. I guess the only drawback is he costs a huge amount of points, and his function is wholly dependant on a roll of the die to determine his form, but a lucky throw at the right time can undo the work of a whole game in moments.

    Variety is the spice (no pun intended) of the Hindu army, but while their Deities might kick ass, a lot of their Mortals, while strong of faith, generally lack charisma and strength to compete with Zealots and other units with "Blind Faith".
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:26 No.5360875
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    Which Indian side got the Gandhara Stronghold? I think it was Buddhist though.

    That Monkey was serious business when he was legal.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:33 No.5360913
    All I can say is thank goodness they wised up and moved MahaKala and Bhairava to Armageddon-only, those were just too much.

    I think they ought to just recompile all the old editions, and release them online for cheap. Codex "Obscure and Ancient Faiths", maybe? It'd add a lot more variety to the game, which is mostly dominated by the longtime favorites.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:33 No.5360916

    Aw, fuck cunt. Try and play anicent Hindu without godly special characters and they're still rape. HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR UNIT UPGRADES?! They can make whole units pick off your officers/special characters for very little point costs simply by declaring them "Jumpers" and having a noble nearby. No other army can do that. And let's not forget that they can just fucking swarm you with irregular axemen too.
    And in a later update they got fucking flying rocket swords as an artillery unit. I mean, yeah, they could not hit shit most of the time but when they did...nobody was using armour in that edition...it was absolutely brutal.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)18:42 No.5360968
    There's a lot you can do with a Hindu force, a shame you only see them in two flavors nowadays in tourneys. You've either got your God army of death machines with some Technicians or Reincarnated hiding in back, or Peacemaker lists with Ghandi.

    I've only ever seen ONE guy pass a faith check against him - he's got nothing offensively, but with his huge amount of meatshields and ability to ignore all faith modifiers with Pacifism (including blind faith(!)) when forcing a diplomacy check, he can turn your army against itself, great HQ for his points if you only have a few elite units to convert that would otherwise never falter.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)19:10 No.5361203

    Then use Nazis, Communists, Nationalism or any other secular faith from the 1920-1930 edition. And take points in German or Austrian too. That'll make them pretty much immune to pacifist special characters like Ghandi. He's still gonna convert some of them, but it's outright dangerous to him as the rest of your troops get a hefty bonus per the "kill the traitor" rules and a 50% chance to fall into bloodlust for two turns afterwards, which'll make them cut through the meatshield like a hot knife through butter.
    That's at least with germans. If you don't like that, use Austrian Officers. They can shoot their own troops and move normal afterwards.
    >> Anonymous 08/06/09(Thu)21:10 No.5362350
    I play Hinduism, the units are all extremely powerful but cost a shit ton of points. You can field at most like 10-12 units in a normal thousand point game.

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