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    241 KB Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:02 No.4798636  
    Hello, /tg/

    I'm normally not from around here, but I feel like you guys could help me.
    I want to play Dungeons and Dragons. I'm trying to get some friends together or find a group.
    Point is, I've never played it, I'm am completely new to it, but the whole idea of the game sounds fantastic.

    Can you guys tell me what are the essentials for game play?
    What do I ABSOLUTELY need?
    +tips?
    :3
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:04 No.4798651
    The Player's Handbook
    The Dungeon Master's guide
    The Monster Manual
    Character sheets (can be photocopied from the Players Handbook or done up on PDF downloadbale files)
    Pencils

    Miniatures are handy but you can use coins, legos, whatever.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:04 No.4798655
    let me save you time.

    Get a twinkie, take a shit in it. This is D&D.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:05 No.4798658
    >>4798651
    Lol and Dice how could I forget those.

    d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, and the d20
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:05 No.4798661
    1. Dice. You will need everything from d4's to d20's, preferably at least three or four of each.
    2. The books. You will need the Player's Handbook, the Monster Manual, and the Dungeon Master's Guide.
    3. Lots of paper. You'll be printing character sheets and keeping a lot of book-keeping.
    Everything other than that is icing on the cake.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:06 No.4798676
    Computer with PDFs
    Random number generator
    Text documents for characters

    Is the alternative way to go. :P
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:06 No.4798681
    What you absolutely need:
    Free time
    Friends
    One friend who is willing to play referee of sorts
    Pens, paper, and some dice
    Snacks

    Rule books are recommended, but not required. Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, and an adventure module (Keep on the Shadowfell and Dungeon Delve are good) help a lot.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:07 No.4798682
    >>4798636
    >I want to play Dungeons and Dragons.
    You have my sympathies.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:08 No.4798694
    >>4798661
    >>4798658

    OP here, thanks guys.
    :]

    Also, since I've never played before, is it a good idea for me to try to DM?

    Or should I see if I can find a veteran to DM the game when we do start?

    I'm a little bit intimidated...
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:09 No.4798704
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    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:09 No.4798707
    >>4798694

    Depends.

    How fast are you thinking on your feet? Remember, tabletop games are notorious for derailing plots the DM had in mind, even on accident.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:10 No.4798715
    The dungeon master guide has several chapters all about how to get started and play, very helpful.
    >> Muon 06/07/09(Sun)13:11 No.4798722
    Before you sink all this money into the game, pick up a box of D&D Basic. It has everything you need -- premade characters, simple rules, minis. It'll let you get into the game without even needing a veteran DM. See if you like it first before going any further.
    >> Toy Store Anonymous !wImXn9Y2hw 06/07/09(Sun)13:11 No.4798723
    >>4798694
    If you're going with 4e, DMing isn't really all that hard, but if it's your first RPG, ever? You might wanna lay off.

    Perhaps get a premade adventure, and, while you're still learning the ropes, just basicaly run it as written. When you have a better idea what you're doing, then you can be creative.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:13 No.4798740
    >>4798707
    I'm a pretty imaginative girl, :3
    And my wits are pretty quick.
    I used to roleplay online, I read lots of fantasy books and played wow...
    Do you think that would help?
    ._.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:15 No.4798762
    >>4798722

    Where would I get one of those? I've only seen miniatures in Barnes and Nobles and Borders.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:15 No.4798766
    OP has to be a troll.

    It just has to be!!
    >> Muon 06/07/09(Sun)13:16 No.4798772
    >>4798740
    When I did my first campaign, first session ever, I came up with an extremely loose framework I could work with. (A bullet-point plot.) Basically, if you think of it, write it down. Later when you actually play you can bust out these awesome happenings, settings and badguys because you took the time to think it out beforehand.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:16 No.4798774
    >>4798766

    Well, >>4798740 *now* it is.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:17 No.4798786
    >>4798740
    oh snap, shit just got serious. I which you like.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:17 No.4798789
    >>4798740
    >I used to roleplay online, I read lots of fantasy books and played wow...
    Having read classic fantasy should help, yeah. Try to forget anything you've "learned" from online roleplaying and WoW - neither of them is nothing like tabletop gaming.
    >> Muon 06/07/09(Sun)13:18 No.4798793
    >>4798762
    http://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons-Basic-Game/dp/0786939443/ref=pd_sim_b_1
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:19 No.4798807
    >>4798774
    I'm not a troll. >.o

    I'm just looking for help on a game I've never played before. Sadly no one around me knows much of it so...
    There.

    >>4798772
    I think I'll do that after I get the little D&D Basic. :] Thank you.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:20 No.4798814
    >>4798789
    Will do.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:20 No.4798816
    Play 4e, learn the game, then play 3.5
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:20 No.4798821
    >>4798740
    >I'm a pretty imaginative girl, :3
    >imaginative girl, :3
    >:3
    Jesus Christ, it's a lion! Get in the car!
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:21 No.4798823
    >>4798807
    don't use emoticons on 4chan.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:21 No.4798838
    >>4798823
    No. fuck you. >:P
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:22 No.4798842
    >>4798823
    Kay


    >>4798793
    Why go backwards?
    And thank you>>4798816
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:23 No.4798848
    >>4798842
    Oh god I fail hard...
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:23 No.4798850
    >>4798807
    Do you plan to do this via interwebs or IRL?
    If so, NearbyGamers could help you find a group, rather than have to tell 4chan the general area in which you live.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:23 No.4798852
    >>4798838
    Who the fuck are you?
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:25 No.4798872
    >>4798842
    Some people prefer 3.5 over 4e because it has more rules. Something about having rules for every little thing making the game better. Personally I prefer the more streamlined newer edition. Matter of taste, really.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:26 No.4798878
    >>4798850
    I wasn't aware of that... thank you.
    And god, there's no one near me.
    Fuu...
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:27 No.4798885
    Quick start rules and a free module are here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4dnd/dndtestdrive. Enjoy:o)
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:28 No.4798899
    >>4798872
    Well I was planning on playing 4th.

    But if I find someone who plays 3.5 I'll join in on a game (if the let me), borrow some books and stuff.

    Been looking around, and this seems rather expensive.
    Can I just torrent it? Or would that be insulting?
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:29 No.4798910
    >>4798885
    Thank you!
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:33 No.4798941
    >>4798899
    You'll want to have hard copies of the basic books if you're DMing. Leafing through a book during a game night is a lot easier than firing up a laptop you need to check something. Splatbooks, optional books, adventure modules and such you can safely pirate. I'd recommend /rs/ over torrents, though. And if you're not DMing, pirate the core books, too.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:37 No.4798987
    >>4798941
    Well if possible I'll stay away from DMimg the first few times. But from what I can tell, so far everyone who's going to play is a beginer, I'd feel a lot better DMing our first game if that's the case.

    I just called my library and they have both the players handbook and the Dungeon masters guide...so.
    I'm going to borrow it if I can't find someone with more experience, lol.
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)13:41 No.4799014
    >>4798694
    When I started GMing, I did so because i was the only one of my friends who could read english (im from southamerica). Is not as hard as you may think. Just remember:

    Let them come up with solutions other than what you have planned, for the love of god, if they cant find the key to steel door #42 it is okay for them to think of diggin under it or making a hole in the wall. You should just make sure you tell them it just takes a long time and is not going to let them surprise whatever´s on the other side. If you add a few, small roaming monsters just coming across them as they work, it will add realism.

    Have an objective, not a plan. The objective is "how do you get to the orb on top of the tower". A plan would be "when they go through this door this happens, and if they say this it will open". Plans are shit. They will just use a levitation and float up to the tower´s peak, or turn into mist and flow under the doors, etc.

    NEVER HAVE A PLAN

    Plans do NOT survive contact with players, and if you want to write a book, go do that, instead. You must have objectives and let THEM come up with means to achieve them.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:44 No.4799049
    >>4799014
    Understood..
    >.o
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)13:50 No.4799089
    >>4799014
    Oh, and the GM screen is actually a tool for you to let them survive things they shouldnt survive. But they think it is so you can kill them at will. This is fine, let them think so, it adds to the tension and nervousness, and makes it all the more exciting to them when they win in the end.

    Honestly, five minutes practicing your evil grin or laugh is time better spent than 2 days reading how flying mounted combat works.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:51 No.4799100
    You will need quantities of beer, as well as cheetos, pretzels, and/or mixed nuts.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:52 No.4799108
    >>4799089
    lol, alright.
    Thank you.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:53 No.4799115
    >>4799089

    Related problem: My group thinks I go easy on them (fluffing rolls and such), and whilst I sometimes do to avoid TPK (and I would like to retain that power) it sometimes kills the suspense for them.

    How do I fix that?
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)13:58 No.4799154
    >>4799115
    Thats easy. From time to time, dont go easy on them, but only to the point where one or two of them get thrown down and are unconscious.

    Still, I did three TPK in my 13+ years GMing, and they were all on the first 2 years. It turned out good because over a decade later they still think im a killer GM and are fucking nervous whenever I roll a dice they cant see and raise an eyebrown.

    Note: YOU dont do TPK, they do by doing idiotic things.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)13:58 No.4799162
    >>4799115
    Original OP.

    Noob Question: What's TPK?
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:01 No.4799179
    >>4799162

    Total Party Kill. No one survives the battle, game over.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:03 No.4799185
    >>4799179
    Jesus fucking christ.

    How the hell does that happen?!
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:04 No.4799202
    >>4799185
    Players are retards. You will learn this soon enough.
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:05 No.4799210
    1st TPK they called the elf queen a lazy, coward whore in the middle of her audience room in her castle while surrounded by the whole of the elven nobility and guards.

    2nd TPK they told an ancient great wyrm that was giving them a quest to go fuck a lizard

    3rd TPK they tried to take on the giant´s army by themselves (at level 2) instead of going to get help from the nation to the north like they had been sent to.

    You dont do TPK, they do through being morons and jerks, and refusing to run when they should. Reason for this are:

    1) They think this is a videogame and any foe that appears is of course, therefore of a proper level for them to beat, no matter what it looks like.
    2) They want to know if they can push you around and get away with stupid shit. If you let them once, they´ll push you around forever.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:05 No.4799216
    TROLL THREAD

    Goddamnit, /tg/
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:06 No.4799219
    3 ork barbarians against a lvl1-2 party of 3-4.

    Not cool. Unless you are rooting for the orcs.
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:09 No.4799250
    >>4799210
    Oh, latest PK at my table was when a bear warrior shapechanged into a bear and charged a dragon through a window.

    They were on board a flying ship
    The dragon was flying
    The ship was about 2 miles from the ground.

    This happened because the player was playing with his MP3 player through the whole game and didint really paid attention to what was going on, so he thought they were still on land somewhere, despite having been having adventures on board the ship for some 3 hours now. They found a saboteour in the engine´s, they helped find a culprit to the captain´s murder, and recovered important documents from the ship engineer.

    Despite this, the player thought they were still back at the castle they had been 3 hours ago in real time, or about 3 weeks ago in game time.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:10 No.4799255
    >>4799216
    >/tg/, where anyone who isn't completely expert at these games is a troll
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:11 No.4799259
    >>4799210
    It's all determined by the dice though, right?
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:13 No.4799274
    >>4799250
    I lol'd.
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:17 No.4799299
    >>4799259
    yep
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:21 No.4799314
    >>4799299
    Alright. If that's the case then I don't have to feel guilty about anything.
    Also, since I'm pretty new (to the point that I have yet to play my first game) is there any way I could keep in touch if any of you in case I have any questions here and there?

    My aim is Omnomnom3, you can aim me if you'd like.
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:25 No.4799342
    >>4799314
    whats aim?
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:28 No.4799360
    >>4799342
    www.aim.com

    Instant messaging.
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:29 No.4799366
    >>4799342
    I use yim and msn, and am not about to install a new messenger to stay in touch with just 1 person, sorry
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:30 No.4799372
    >>4799342
    Advanced Idea Mechanics.
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:31 No.4799378
    >>4799366
    Np
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:33 No.4799399
    If you do install msn or yim, tho, my msn is maglad_at@yahoo.com and my yim is maglad_triunfant
    I almost never use msn, tho, but i always use yim
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)14:34 No.4799401
    >>4799366
    OH!!! I forgot I have a yim through my e-mail,
    Schitzo_moo@yahoo.com

    Would that work?
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:37 No.4799439
    >>4799401
    No idea, sorry
    >> Flying Spaghetti Monster !!9uyN+BGUFFK 06/07/09(Sun)14:53 No.4799550
    still tried to add you, tho
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)15:03 No.4799629
    >>4798872

    This is the things I find the most stupid about some D&D players. They want rules for EVERYTHING. Check out some D&D board and you'll find millions of threads about "housrules for manufactring a harmonica".
    >> Anonymous 06/07/09(Sun)15:09 No.4799677
    The main thing you need is a lot of time and patience and don't be a shit DM but you'll probably be a shit DM so why should I help you.



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