Merfolk are highly territorial, carnivorous, and very tasty. They'll attack anyone who swims or sails too far out. Humans are generally safe thanks to their large ships, and dwarves have their networks of bridges. Elves end up fighting merfolk all the time while they are out fishing, and it often provides more than regular fishing. Try the elvish grilled merman some time, its delicious. Merfolk sometimes come ashore in search of food (read humans, elves, etc), but tend to avoid dwarven cities, because they would boil to death from the lava pouring into the sea.

Halflings are cannibals. But in a rational way. They see burying their dead as feeding the blood god who will some day awaken and destoy everything, so they eat their dead, and will occasionally attack other races for burying their dead.

Orcs are conquistadors. They've come to enforce their way of life on the native races, and will crush anyone who opposes them. The threat of orcs is what keeps the humans and gnomes from openly going to war.

Lizardmen once had a great empire on the islands, but it is now in ruins. Lizardmen now just chill out around the old ruins sunbathing and occasionally running off people who would loot the ruins. Think lazy surfer types.

Can we think of any other races to add in?

Also, drawfaggery of tiki warforged needed ASAP

in b4 tropical cutebolds.

I can see Orcs as lawless pirates, piled on stolen ships, raiding towns.

goblins and their ilk as natives, savage pygmies that use blow darts and spears, capturing people to sacrifice or eat.

>>Lizardmen now just chill out around the old ruins sunbathing and occasionally running off people who would loot the ruins. Think lazy surfer types.

Doobies hang with these guys.

In during Unified Setting fags forcing their memetic bullshit on this.

>>4720077

>Doobies and cutebolds were invented by the Unified Setting

Durp hurp

>>4720086
No, but they're adored by the same faggots who will force the concept on just about everything.

>>Can we think of any other races to add in?

Lizardmen = Iguanaborn

They once served the great Iguanas, now they just laze around on rocks near the sea. They are at peace with the Merfolk, allowing them to freely swim the seas between islands in search of flatter and hotter rocks to laze upon. The legend goes that one day a rock will be found upon which such lazing can be done that he who sprawls upon it will reach enlightenment and lead the Iguanaborn to Hawaii.

>> They just enjoy life, and have no concepts of personal property, war, or adultery.
Taking things in a somewhat grim direction: The elves are going to be getting all KINDS of venereal diseases from humans. I worry that elf societies may begin to collapse under the burden of madness-inducing syphillis, for instance.

Dwarves, who in this setting seem to be taking a "protective older brother" role in relation to the elves already, are certainly going to realize what is going on as island after island of elves begins to suffer illness following the arrival of humans or orcs. I'm not sure how they would go about protecting the elves, though.

>>4720124
This is simple, they bring all the surviving, uninfected elves onto one island, then pull the fucking lever and flood all the human islands with Magma.

>>4720124

Witch doctors actually magically cure AIDS.

Problem solved.

>>4720111

Hehe, I like the concept of lazing to enlightment. But Iguanas are kinda boring as a lizardman basecreature.

/me forces crocs as an idea. This would also give them a bit more of an aquatic feel.

>>4720147
Base them on these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZq_0kvtxk

Jamaican culture...really?

Why not Samoan, Hawaiian, or other Pacific Islander.

>>4720156

Dwarves = known for accents and boozing.
Jamacians = known for accents and boozing.

>>4720156

Doesn't really matter, you know the dwarves will still have a Scottish accent.

>>4720070
What the fuck ARE doobies anyway? I never bothered to read the Unified Setting threads, so all I know is that it's some armadillo with downs syndrome that has it's cock sucked by other retards.

>>4720147
Fine. They look like iguanas, but their necks are all loose and flappy. They look kind of cool, just lying there, chilling out. Make you want to join in.
THEN HOLY SHIT WHERE THE FUCK DID THAT MANE COME FROM FUCK IT'S CHASING MEEEEE OHSHITOHSHITOHSHITOHSHIT

>>4720156

Orcs are maoris, so it's already taken. (yeah I know fijis are not new zealand, bear with me)

What about dragonborns?

>>4720156
MAORI DORFS, EH BRO?

>>4720174
It was originally created as a satirical version of sergals and cutebolds that's a combination of flatfish, rabbit and platypus or something.
Turns out some fags actually liked it and took it seriously.

>>4720184
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckm6mxPZIU
You're now imagining dozens of man-sized frilled lizards with functioning arms chasing you in the same fashion.

>>4720197
you guys and mayor max are the only ones who take those "species" seriously, and he got kicked out of the army for painting naked lolis into the hull of an M-113

>>4720186

Dragonborn have a history of being noble and cultured in 4ed settings.

In 3.5 they're utterly loyal to Bahamut, a Lawful Good god.

We seem to have conquistadors already, so perhaps Dragonborn are the afore mentioned corsairs.

I dunno guys, why again arent coastal dwarves pirates/traders in lol huge sailing contraptions?

>>4720257

Spanish nobles?

>>4720433

Oh come on now, that's just totally unrealistic.

COCONUT WARFORGED!

Giant vampires who live in trees and exist solely on fruit?

>carnivorous, and very tasty

haha no. Carninovorous animals aren't very taste to other carnivorous

>>4720547

That doesn't follow.

Fish eat fish who eat other fish.

>>4720552

They still taste like shit.

>>4720564

Our brains can train us to find things necessary for survival tasty.

It's impossible for something we *must* derive sustenance from to taste bad.

>>4720552
fish aren't animals...

>>4720579
>trollin' trollin' trollin'...

This is your lvl 20 encounter. Except house sized.

>>4720599
>>4720599

Bring me a bushel of lemons, and a barrel of garlic butter!

>>4720578
A large number of medicines taste fucking awful. I hate the taste of just about all seafood. Mushrooms taste weird as hell. Etc.

If what you're saying is that there's one source of sustenance and we can get used to it over time, then yeah. otherwise lolwut

>>4720579

Can anyone tell me what that actually is? And where it lives? I think I saw a pic of it hiding on a trashcan and it freeked me out.

>>4720666
it's a palm crab. They climb trees.

>>4720666
That, m'dear friend, is a coconut crab. So named because they break the fuckers open with their claws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_crab

>>4720547
You know what is tasty? Dog. Dog is amazingly tasty is prepared in the right way.
Yeah, that's right, disproved you there sucker.

So... delicious, brown elf girls?

... I'm listening.

>>4720486

Fuck yeah, fruit vampires. Victims of an infectious transformative disease, these poor wretches hide out in the jungle, blamed as they are for spreading the disease. They are left unable to digest anything except fruit, they grow sharp teeth to break open hard fruits and their noses grow considerably, giving them a superb sense of smell. They also have the ability to turn into fruitbats should the need arise.

Generally they keep themselves to themselves, content to stay away from the civilisation that shuns them, but they're very hostile to any individual who transgresses on "their" territory. They have been known to carry out raids on smaller villages to steal fruit if the natural supplies are running low.

>>4720599

Speaking of crabs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aftt1vg1JtY

Just as long as it has piratical sword fighting, I'm happy.

>They just enjoy life, and have no concepts of personal property, war, or adultery.
Not in my setting they won't. I've pictured them as warlike, highly territorial savages whose intellect has declined even below orcish intelligence. Imagine lithe cavemen with pointy ears and ancient, enchanted weapons and you're pretty close.
The lack of intelligence is actually a curse afflicting the whole species, whilst their runed weapons are the last vestiges of their former intellectual superiority.

>>4721139
I'm rubber, you're glue.

Hawaiian Dwarves where better.

Sunbathing Lizardfolk is nice.

>>4720422
because dwarves hate boats

rolled 81 = 81

>>4721197
>They just enjoy life, and have no concepts of personal property, war, or adultery.
>Not in my setting they won't.

Well this isn't your setting, now is it?

>>4721385
Actually, I dunno. Is this a discussion about some particular setting, or a general exchange about how the individual anon would go about the topic? Honestly, I thought it was about the latter.

rolled 55 = 55

>>4721476

Good question. I assume it's the creation of a setting, or at least a location that could be inserted into pre-existing settings/campaigns.

How about some race of golem-like Tiki statues or Easter island moai (I vote for this one) wandering around?

>>4721930
Moaiforged?

rolled 100 = 100

>>4721930

Perhaps they were left on said island by the gods/powerful interstellar beings/bored wizard, as part of some grand magical stone machine as repairbots/workers? One where said construction eventually broke down, and now they are listless and wandering in search of something to do.

>>4722005
I just got a visual of world 3-1 in super mario land.

>>4722029

Most of the time they remain buried in the ground, their heads surrounding ancient holy places and temples. Should these places be disturbed, whether by tomb-robbers or an innocent elf-child gone wandering, the Moaiforged stir from their sleep of ages and rise from the earth to crush all intruders.

What order did the natives arrive in?

Obviously the lizardfolk had their huge empire some time in the past, but where do the elves, halfings and dwarves fit in? Perhaps they were the lizardfolk's slave-races. Elves were bred for hunting and soldiery, dwarves for mining and crafting and halfings for... cooking and cleaning?

As the lizardfolk empire degenerated into laziness and debauchery they simply didn't care any more to enforce their will on their slaves who gradually began to pack up and go their separate ways.

>>mermaids voar people
not that I'm complaining but
whats with all the cannibalism in this setting?

rolled 2 = 2

>>4723555

Throwback to all the island cannibalism myths. Y'know, "Lets throw the new guy in the pot of boiling water!"

>>4723555
well, merfolk are more fish than people (or rather sharks than people in this setting)

halflings because you need at least one stereotypical tribe of cannibals

and thats it really

>>4723476
The dwarves were first by a huge margin, but only on a handful of islands. The lizardfolk were next, along with their halfling slaves. The lizard empire at first attempted to make war with the dwarves, but after losing two of their three initial settlements, they learned to ignore the dwarves and make due with the lower parts of the islands.

The lizardfolk empire was great and advanced, but eventually faded away. Their halfling slaves wandered off to become their adorable cannibal selves.

Long after the fall of the lizard empire, a ship of elven explorers wrecked on one of the islands. After a few generations (elves live a long time, but not when halfling cannibals keep eating them) they forgot their origins and grew into the spirit-worshipers we know today.

Relatively shortly after the elves turned into hippies, the first human explorer found the archipelago. Within a few years there were human and gnomish settlements on a few islands, and within a generation the orcs decided to show up and teach the natives to worship their god (and steal some fine dwarven gemstones in the process).

>>4723634

I like this.

>>4723796
I like vests.

Lizardman civilization collapsed after an especially long and hard winter.

>>4723590
I am now imagining a group of human explorers running for their lives as a group of dark-skinned pygmies chases them with wooden sticks with points sharpened into nasty spearheads, screaming at the top of their nasty shrill voices.

>>4724188
I hate Ayn Rand.

>>4724385
I can't blame you.

where are dragons in all this
are they beasts of myth few and far between or are they simply absent replaced with sea serpents

>>4723796
Thanks.

>>4722005
I like this, but I like tikiforged too. So let's have both.

The moais are even older than the dwarves. Nobody knows who created them, except for the moai themselves. And they can't tell you: the spell that animates them is powered by their secrecy. If one tried to tell you, he'd crumble before he got the first syllable out. They long ago decided to consolidate all the artifacts of their civilization to one large temple so nobody could glean secrets from them, but a handful of artifacts are still missing, and some moai are still abroad searching for them after all this time. The majority of the moai are asleep: as inert as stone since their creation. Whenever one of the moai is destroyed, one of the sleeping moai will wake up and take its place. The knowledge to create new moai has long since been lost, but there's still enough remaining to last a very long time.

The lizardmen, during their empire's peak, created the tikiforged in an attempt to mimic the moai. They were partially successful: they managed to create powerful warriors and workers for themselves, but the tikiforged lack the wisdom and mysterious powers of the moai. A handful of old lizard empire ruins still contain partially working tikiforged factories, which slowly replenish their numbers. Most tikiforged, true to their purpose, set off to find a use for themselves in the first society they find.

You know what this setting needs? It needs some fruit bats.

>>4724483
I assume these lizardmen are aquatic based (kinda like those iguana's) if so do they worship the laviathan (or some monstorous sea creature or creatures of that nature)

What about dwarven capoeriaglamuhfa masters? With big lead weights tied to the end of their beards?

We HAVE to recycle that idea.

>Lizardmen once had a great empire on the islands
Like they do every fucking where. Fuck, can't someone be creative with lizardmen? Like, fucking ever?

>>4724586
I like the idea of some new race like a hybrid between lizardmen and bird people.

>>4724465

Dragons are volcano dwellers. Alternatively, Leviathans.

>>4724637
Yeah!
The Lizardbird people! They'll be like birdpeople, but with scales and lizard heads and stuff! OMG this is gonna be so cool!

>>4724385
Francis, is there anything you don't hate?

Also, how come nobody has brought up Galapagos iguanas? Black hides and vegetarian diets. They chill on the rocks.

>>4724586
No clue, I didn't come up with that part. But the modern lizardfolk spend their time lazing about on rocks, that's somewhat original. And the religious bit is really clever. The stuff this guy came up with >>4720111

>>4724649
So then they would either be worshiped or feared by the dwarves. I am also talking like there are probably multiple kinds. I think there would both be beast esc dragons nothing more than hunters and scavanges most of them still somewhat aquatic living in under water caves. While some intelligent dragons would be worshipped like gods by tribal races and would defend said tribe for sacrifices. (I am reffering to both wealth and food)

>>4724637
Why can't you simply have lizardmen that is at the fucking pinnacle of their mighty empire? Is that too much to ask? It's like there's some unspoken rule all lizardmen must be cavedwelling faggots and only are so because they once had a great empire and were the dominate race etc etc

>>4724662
Archaeans?
I can see it.

>>4724716
How are the dragon myths in polynesia/etc?

>>4724670
Just forget the whole "ancient empire" bit. It's disgustingly cliché and doesn't fit in anyway. Just make them slackers. Like shipwreck survivors from some huge armada who enjoyed where they ended up and decided to stay. Having found the good life, now they just slack and act like bad boys, kicking up food in everyones food etc.

>>4724762
That'd make Lizardmen what, Robinson Crusoe-like?

I'd prefer the cliche, honestly.

>>4724512, see >>4720486, and >>4720743.

Bumping for win.

Incidental-dragons. Are there any? What are they like?

>>4724796
No, there's a big difference. Crusoe was fighting for his life and he wanted to get home. These guys, several hundred of them in fact, just decided to up and settle down here because it's a cool place.

And Crusoe didn't kick sand in anyones food. He was not badass enough.

>>4724762
Just have lizardmen as territorial beach dwellers.

You see a gigantic lizard the size of an orc lying on a beach, mouth gaping open with glee as it basks in the sun.
You even think of approaching it, you even make a sound and it will chase the fuck out of you and beat you half to death before it fucks off to bath in the sun again.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckm6mxPZIU
That's what lizardmen should be like.

Since the elves are spirit worshipers and what not they should have access to the binder class from tome of magic.

I think the entire island should be a giant turtle swimming through the ocean.

>>4724855
Run around to gay music?

>>4720018
>>4720023

Needs more Tiki Warforged and Dutch Goblins.

Being one of the major contributors to the original thread, the idea behind the lizardmen was that they were simply the original natives to the various islands. Whether or not they had an empire wasn't explicitly stated and, really, doesn't make much sense when looking at their ineffectual and lazy nature. Sure, they might have had a moreover broadened culture in the past, and might have actually strove forth with a purpose, but nowadays they're simply too dispersed and ill-numbered to really give a shit about anything (aside from their own privacy and food sources). Also, they're supposed to be komodo dragon like in appearance with obvious iguana motifs, not necessarily iguana-people.

As a final note, the lizardmen in this setting aren't necessarily bad or Evil. Sure, they're probably fairly belligerent toward anyone who disturbs their down time, as it were, but I doubt most would just up and attack some estranged elven girl out picking fruit just because she happened to wander within twenty feet of them. Well, so long as she wasn't making a ruckus, of course.

Really, their relationship with the other [now] native islanders should be fairly good, if not simply lax. For example, they'd probably be one of the only races on good terms with the merfolk ("good" being subjective), would just ignore the elves, would try to keep their mutual distance from the dwarves, and would be somewhat bothered by and/or wary of the gnomes should they happen to coexist on the same island (which is probably a rare occurrence).

P.S. Cutting away from lizardmen at the moment, I like the idea that another Anon brought up with "dragons" being both deep-sea leviathans and volcano-dwelling serpents. These would obviously be two different species of dragons, of course.

>>4724586

Lizardmen are similar to aztec, with a large,organized empire, but they do not quite see other creatures as 'alive' as they are. Dwarves are mysterious, living statues. Merfolk are vengeful fish-spirits sent to punish any who trespass in the ocean. halflings are little gods of death that lizardmen give the dead too, as having a halfling eat the flesh ensures the soul gets freed and sent to the afterlife quickly. Humans are chaotic, unknowable demons from across the horizon.

everything is magical, and everything demands proper ritual and procedure when dealing with them. Nothing scares the lizardmen like misfit humans or the aggressive, corrupting views of the orcs.

Why i'm imagining Aztec or Mayan Orcs now?

>>4725128
as the guy who posted the 'lizardman empire' thing first in the last thread, it was basically just an excuse to have lizardmen chilling out using ancient aztec-ish ruins as nice flat rocks to sunbathe on

Someone should make a species out of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rckm6mxPZIU

>>4725165
Because you missed the part where they're the Spanish conquistadors.

>>4725179
Islands need ancient ruins. It's a rule.

>>4725179
I understood that. And really, it still brings a pretty awesome image to mind, so it's not like it's a bad idea. The thing is, the ruins needn't necessarily have been theirs. And, actually, its somewhat more interesting of they weren't. The idea that they're casual trespassers upon and possessive of the ruins of a bygone people is both interesting and fairly humorous in of itself.

So then are humans mass moving all natives on the land they claimed to territories they don't care about at the time?

Dragons of fire and water despise each other. Like elementals, they would love nothing more then to see their preferred state reign supreme.

Fire dragons are constantly swimming deep within the earth, clawing at the mantle and trying to encourage eruptions that would see fire and ash cover the world.

Water dragons stir the seas to erode islands and drown them in storms.

they don't care much for mortals that are caught in the middle. Merfolk are the only devoted followers of any dragon, as no other race could survive in a world dominated by a single element. Dwarfs propitiate the fire-wyrms for the wealth and resources they create as much as to keep their homes from being destroyed.

>>4725232
That made me slightly nauseous.

>>4725165
Haven't a clue. The Orcs are Spanish Conquistadors in this 'verse.

>>4725250
I always assumed the lizardmen didn't even know the ruins were theirs. They just like them because there's plenty of flat rocks and some carvings that look like them.

How about if (some race appropriate for being the truant ancients) stopped by long ago, made friends with the lizardmen, and carved murals of the two working together to commemorate it. But, when (ancient truant race) disappeared, so did the carvings of them.

Now everyone assumes just the lizard men made the ruins because they're the only guys on the carvings.

>>4725268
nope, unless there's an elven village on the site where they want to build a town. its basically a case of "are they getting in the way of our new town"

orcs, on the other hand...

>>4725128
Well to think there would only be one type of dragon would be rediculas I was thinking there would be four types.
Volcanic dragons: Live in or near volcanos breath fire and are somewhat rare and are held in both respect and fear by drawves. The reason for this is they believe the fires of the volcano are stoked by the fires of dragon whenever said beasts are angered the volcano erupts thus it is customary for whenever a Dwarve finds a dragon nest to give there most valued posetion to the beast. The dragons being somewhat intelligent think this is more the dwarve exchanging something for his life.
Amphibios Dragons: they possess wings although now they are simply meant for swiming. They tend to live in tidal caves and in somecases will live in fresh water rivers that dot the larger rivers. They don't breath fire but do shoot electricity like electric eals. They are fairly small and will eat anything they can catch often prefering fish and the occasional merfolk.
Avian Dragons: These dragons live on clif sides and will fly out to sea in order to hunt for fish. They are small by comparison to the others and hunt there prey by dive bombing in to the ocean. They are probably the least intelligent of the dragons.
Deap Sea Dragons: The largest of the dragons they sleep on the ocean. They rarely surface however when they do they normally bring destruction. They raid costal cities and drag frigate to the deapths in order to increase there horads which they keep at the depths of the ocean. Many Merfolk worship these dragons as there appearence assures them a plentiful feast.

>>4725273
I like this, expect instead of having the "fire dragons" (really, I think these things shouldn't even be called dragons, personally, even if that's what they are) trying to cover the world in ash, they simply wish to create more volcanoes, and thus islands, taking away some of the "water dragons" domain, just has the leviathans wish to flood said islands, reclaiming their domain

Tropical setting seems new and refreshing.

>>4725381
I like the idea that volcanic dragons are mistaking worship for barganning for someones life.

>>4724670
Being the person who suggested the lizardmen in the first place, yes, the idea was taken from the iguanas of the Galapagos. Big, scary lizardmen with the attitude of 'relax and chill man, let Father Wave and Mother Beach soothe your soul' was so far from the usual tropes it had to be done.

>>4725381
>deep sea dragons

Just do away with those and add actual sea dragons, except larger and more intelligent (not as smart as a human, but about as intelligent as a monkey. ) They don't feed like their smaller counterparts, but have great, billowing "webs" on which they catch detrius. They periodically shed and eat that web, and it's considered a delicacy amongst the sapient cultures. Basically the feeding strategy of that one worm.

>>4725358
Heh, I kind'a like that. I wouldn't be opposed to this if the idea were refined a little more (logically).

>>4725273
>>4725364
>>4725381
Combining these seems like a pretty good start. The deep-sea and volcano dragons would be diametrically opposed leviathans (i.e. wyrms), while the cliff and river-dwelling dragons would be drakes in comparison, but not necessarily enemies.

elf villages becoming at odds with the invasive settlers, ontop of traditional rivalries/wars withthe halfling cannibal tribes?

Corctez?

You all fucking sicken me. You're just rehashing the same shit over and over again, just adding a different veneer each time. How about some real originality, fa/tg/uys.

>>4725528
I like the idea of them being a destructive force. They don't hunt people just drag there objects of value to add to there hord and the merfolk simply take advantage of the chaos to eat people. Because a large dragon can sustain himself on larger fish.

>>4725598
>>plz stop having fun ;_;

>>4725610
But really, dwarfs, elfs, merpeople, orcs. Whatthefuck. Same old shit. You guys bore me.

>>4725644
Bro, the "hide thread" button was made for people just like you

>>4725581
elves in this setting dont have concepts of 'war' and 'conflict'. other races are just more people to make friends with, join their parties, trade shiny things with and have sex with. the closest conflict there is is fishing for merfolk or defending against uppity halflings

Where is my shark people /tg/?

I think the elf societies should vairy slightly on each island. The ones at more risk of halfling raiders and other such dangers should the ones that base most of their society on agression. The ones that live in relative peace with little to no outside influence should be the national geographic peaceful islanders described in the OP. While the islands near Dwaves and lizardfolk should be the most civilized, in comparison to the other elves.

>>4725737
I'm thinking nomadic pirate people, you know, much like Vikings but whithout a homeland, they got to raid to survive

>>4725737
someone hasn't been reading the thread. thats what merfolk pretty much ARE

>>4725737
Merfolk make up that demographic.
I think the story of the little mermaid would have been much better if they ate people.

>>4725748
This idea amuses me, Shark pirate people sounds pretty cool, by the way, We are giving Capoeira to Dwarf or to Elves? i can see Capoeira Elves but it's not the case with the short stocky Dwarf Legs

>>4725751
>>4725757
Maybe he is aiming to STREETSHARKS like, not Mermaid like

>>4725746
this seems good, as long as they all still have the basic elven principles of this setting:
"enjoy life"
"all the time is party time"
"what's modesty?"
"i'm still faithful to my partner, that has nothing to do with sex"

I haven't been following these threads as much as I should, but FUCK YEAH TIKIFORGED, FORGED THROUGH ANCIENT VOODOO RITUALS OF DROPPING VIRGINS IN VOLCANOES.

>>4725811
The awesomeness can't be described by words

>>4725788
Pretty much. The contexts would change a bit though. The agressive elves idea of party involves spear dancing while the secluded elves use rudamentary instruments.
Modesty might change dependant on a dwarf's intrest in elf tits.

>>4725811
This brings me to a topic we have not adressed "magic" my guess is
nature magic is obviously going to be based on the sea
divine magic I think would mainly be a colonist ideal
and arcane magic I am thinking the standard magic system for colonists and voodoo for tribal cultures.

>>4725737
The fact that the elves in this setting are truly naive in a wholesale manner pretty much shoots down this sort of thing. It's not so much that they're not aggressive, it's just that they don't understand such sentiments or the value therein (and certainly there is something to be gained by being an aggressive people).

>>4725766
Capoeria goes to the halflings - the dance tramps down the earth to keep the blood god buried, and the combat arts are ritual to help prevent the blood god from stealing the souls of those the halflings kill who are not halflings so they can travel to their own gods.

I recall the jungles of Xen'drik in Eberron had tropical feeling drow warriors. Maybe they'd fit into this setting in a Zulu style warrior?

>>4725886

Meh, should keep it low magic.

>>4725873
elves figure that clothes have to have a purpose (protection, identification of status. they consider bandages, casts and other wound dressings as clothes) and see modesty as 'covering the body simply for no other purpose than covering it', and figure "there's nothing wrong with my body, why should i bother?"

this even applies to local elves who have moved into human/gnome towns, they may adopt local materials and styles (wool for peasants, silk and lace for nobility, etc), but its just as skimpy as their more rural bretheren

I would think Orcs or Dwarves would be better suited as Samoan-esque. Fat seafaring warrior cultures who believe in gods of the sea who give signs on when to go to war.

Since you have Dwarves already thought out, Orcs would fit well in this as a bunch of strong, obese, viking style raiders.

They'd have stone age flint weapons (would have to look up ancient pacific islander weaponry) and rather simplistic catamaran style canoes.

They'd take slaves and raid their neighboring islands mercilessly. They'd make a good adversary to the developed Dwarf and Humans, raiding poorly defended settlements constantly. Their main targets would be elven villages (primary slave source) and would likely hold respect for the murderous Mermen.

>>4725873
Ah, see, >>4725931 brings up a good comparison. These sorts of elves would likely be the "drow" of this setting. 'Though I'm not sure if it really needs that sort of thing...

>>4725911
Awesome.

>>4725886
Personally, I could see paganism working well for a tropical race's divine source.

In this setting Necromancers could just be Voodoo priests. More based around Zombies and maintaining the freshly dead than raising the completely dead and keeping skeletons.

Hell being as Voodoo used to be a big religion for the carribean, might as well make these Necromancer priests out to be the spiritual leaders of the Dwarves.

Either that, or keep the idea of TIKIFORGED and give the elves voodoo-necromancers.

>>4720743

Fruit Bat creatures work better as lycanthropes than vampires, imo. Being undead comes with all sorts of extra baggage that is just ugly and unnecessary.

>>4725962

Yo, read OP. Orcs are conquistadors.

>>4725962
scratch Orcs for this, make Ogres out as the Samoans.

I like this entire setting just for the Tiki-style Golems.

>>4725960
so in other words, its utilitarianism, not naivity that accounts for their lack of modesty?

i guess that means that their armor and protective work clothes cover up as much as any other races' then. makes sense

>>4725811
LOL am I doing it right?

>>4726069
no.

So would this be a Caribbean setting (ala Pirates of the Carribean) or a South Pacific setting?

Everything OP outlined makes me think of a south pacific setting, but the Orcish conquistadors seem out of place.

>>4726114
It's both, actually.

What about aquatic mindflayers?

Would they be part of the Mermaid culture or more on their own?

>>4726139

>>4725886
I did a set of gods in the other thread, that covers your divine. Someone else can figure arcane out, but there's tons of fodder for fun material components on a tropical island.


Most dwarves worship the volcano god. His covenant with them is not that he'll stop the volcano from erupting (asking him to do such would be like asking a man not to breathe, or a fish not to swim), but rather that the lava flows will bring his followers valuable gems encrusted within it. There's also a very similar sea god, preferred by dwarves living on non-volcanic islands. His storms will bring pearls and fish to his followers.

Most elves worship the spirits around them. The spirits themselves worship a god that acts as their shepherd. The elven mystics, drawn from the occasional member of their society who feels the need to have responsibility, worship the shepherd god of the spirits directly, and help it guide the spirits. In exchange, they give the favors they earn from the spirits to their people.

>>4725273
I think you could base a religion off Fire dragons vs Water dragons.

Fire dragons could be seen as either giving birth to new volcanoes (and thus new islands) or as being their protectors, whereas Water dragons would be seen as evil returning land to the sea and summoning deadly storms and tidal waves.

>>4726191
You're in the sea, and you wanna piss about with dragons? Fuck that!

Kraken cults, Turtle clerics, Shark Druids in the house!

>>4726153
AHHHHHHHHH FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK CAN'T UNSEE.

On the notion of tikiforged, they would be few and far between. I'd think the arcane rituals of a creation forge would be replaced with divine rituals and a volcano, the central point of an island. The high priests would take the body of a legendary warrior or other significant person, after carving the forged's body from stone, wood, and maybe obsidian, using the deceased's heart as the new forged's. I haven't filled out the exact specifications, but the deceased is thrown into a volcano along with a living sacrifice, and the forged is given life.

FUCK. YES.

>>4726191
there doesnt need to be a good or evil. hell, it could be a duality of 'creator' and 'destructor'. Fire dragons are creators of land and destructors of life, while water dragons are destructors of land and creators of life

>>4726139
Mind Fleyers could whenever they needed to feed or something of that nature they would awaken those Deap Sea Dragons (>>4725381)

>>4726153
>>4726139

mind=blown

Needs more Goblins.

I'm thinking a Dutch vibe for them. For those of you that don't know, that basically boils down to:

1. strongarming natives into unfair 'trade agreements'
2. Raiding spanish(in this setting, that would be the orcs) trade fleets and settlements
3. slave trade

>>4726206
and dragon is just a generilization when I thought up those deap sea dragons I was thinking of something like this

Jeez, certain weird water monsters I never normallu use would make great encounters in this setting.
Ixichitl,fuck yes, I lknew you guys would have your day.
Abholeths, too. Morkoths!

rolled 61 = 61

Couple rough sketches of the Tikiforged.

Haven't drawn in a while, so it'll look like shit but whatever.

>>4726206
"Dragons" in this setting aren't necessarily dragons in the medieval fantasy context.

>>4726208
Seconding this. Being that this seems to be an already rather "grey" setting in terms of alignments and the like, this sort of duality fits perfectly.

>>4726206
>Shark Druids

>>4726240
>Needs more Goblins.
>I'm thinking a Dutch
Goblins with clogs.
Goblins rowing around on the ocean in giant clog-canoes.

>>4726180
The halflings, as mentioned, believe in a terrible blood god who lives in the earth. They believe any body buried in the ground, or left to rot upon it, will be eaten up by him and give him strength. To prevent this, they eat all their dead. But they know the other races will bury their dead, so they do their best to kill off the old and eat them.

The gnomes, humans, and orcs all worship gods from the mainland, which is mostly pantheistic. However, the bulk of the gnomes and humans here worship the gods of trade and exploration, and the orcs here of course are trying to farther the reach of the god of conquest.

>>4726276
the whole thing needs to be tiki heads, or at least in a style that matches the head. it just looks like a stereotypical tiki god at the moment

>>4726304
This thread gets more awesome with every post.

>>4726243
Suggesting polycheate worms as "dragons". They can easily grow for meters and have toxic spines, snapping claws or nasty bites. Make them larger, more intelligent, and amphibious and you could have a good dragon.

Maybe they have their burrows by the beach, posing a danger to fishers?

>>4726114
CristORCbal Colon

rolled 50 = 50

>>4726317

I based the bodies after this, and a few other images off of Google. Though, I should probably make their heads bigger compared to the body, to keep with the theme.

>>4726365
Honestly, I figured they'd look something similar to this pic. My vision is that the creation ritual is something elaborate and complex, much like the actual ritual in Eberron, but more significant on a tropical island. Jade eyes, obsidian and stone body, wooden inner workings. They'd need some form of sentience to distinguish them from a regular construc, so that's why I figured they'd be instilled with the spirits of the ancestor or whoever was called at the time. Something to that effect.

rolled 41 = 41

>>4726416

Yeah, but that isn't what I would call...well, "tiki."

I've got more the image of moving tiki-statues, their heads letting out some of the fury of a volcano, which gives them monstrous strength and resilience; tempered with fire, their bodies near as hard as stone. Nothing near as complex in construction as a warforged, but perhaps something altogether more mysterious as a result. Kind of like Wraithguard, if one were to draw a 40k parallel with the 'ancestor soul powering a construct' deal.

>>4726459
Ah. We'll call it an artistic interpretation. If my artistic skills were better, I'd show you what I mean, but you are right in saying they're something entirelty different. We are making halflings cannibals and dwarves Jamaican, after all. Though the body of the tikiforged would be constructed beforehand, possibly either by a master craftsman or a high priest/voodoo master/chieftain. Unless the tikiforged were gifted to a tribe for exceptional loyalty to a god.

>>4726180
The elves do have divine magic, but not clerics or standard druids - they have spirit shaman instead, so on occasion people will see an elf, running naked through the forest, play fighting at nothing they can see.

>>4724465

Dragons = flying serpents, the gods of the old lizardmen empire. They pop up occasionally to demand sacrifices, the lizardmen turn into scary silent warrior types for a day or two, and everyone in a ten mile radius (except the dwarves) shits their pants and hides.

rolled 10 = 10

>>4726522
>Though the body of the tikiforged would be constructed beforehand, possibly either by a master craftsman or a high priest/voodoo master/chieftain.

To take this one step further, how about the body and head are prepared beforehand, BUT the head is given no detail beforehand; the arrival of the ancestral spirit warps it into a carving befitting the nature of the personality housed within.

Therefore, a scowling, angry, or screaming face is that of a powerful or bloodthirsty warrior, but one that is more serene or contemplative is a wise one/shaman/adviser.

>>4726582
Quetzacoatl Dragons! Fuck Yeah

>>4726598
BRILLIANT. SOMEONE BRING THIS MAN TEQUILA.

Seriously, though, that's something that fits the tikiforged PERFECTLY. I like it.

>>4726670
Can i cum on you? suddenly i love you

>>4726681
I'm a little creeped out and a little turned on, to be honest. But let's keep that to another thread.

Unless we suddenly delve into hedonistic tribal orgies.

You wanted a picture of a Tikiforged warrior? Well here you go.

Where are the trolls? Under Dwarf bridge-cities?

>>4726762
Honestly surprised that didn't show up earlier. Are there any archived threads on sup/tg/? Anyone got the links?

>>4726802
Sadly, a good option it's using WoW Trolls mon
da voodo shuffle

>>4726928
Or we could go back the the LotR-style rocky trolls, and make them the moais.

Or just have standard D&D-style regenerative trolls, and have them chill in the deepest dungeons with the myconids. They just sorta hang out with the myconids and kill the nastier predators that go after their little buddies. In exchange they freeload off the myconid farms and get high off their ass on the myconid's hallucinogenic spores.

>>4727957
what about frog-like trolls that regenerate while in water?

also where are the crab people.

>>4728070
I'd love for crabmen, lobsterbacks, mermaids, and all the other sea-creature races to be vicious savages. D&D always used to have a host of races that were just considered cannon-fodder, and they were slowly given more characterization and became less of generic badguys.

But generic badguys are good for a setting, they give the guy in charge something to fall back on when he needs some cheap tension.

I think Eberron Drows fit here

I'm thinking on Half Orcs like the Lineage 2 Orcs, Fighting with his bare hands, with delicious Shaman girls, Overlords, Worshiping the power of fire, with manlyness rituals, kinda the Isla de Pascua guys

>>4728249
Dude, i like this

>>4728231
I am sorry but I do not think Drow fit anywhere in this setting Islands mean no underdark. Ithink there could be other types of elves like Drow. (maybe very tan elves)

>>4728249
You realize that if the orcs are the spanish, half-orcs are mexicans, right?

>>4728312
Just put them in the deepest forests where no light gets anyway.

>>4728070
They're called Merrow.

>>4728312
I could see Drow here - doing the exact same thing their elven brethren are. Face it - they can't take control, there's nothing to be taken control OF. They could kill off the pale elves, but there are too many halflings to risk it.

They'd probably give up and relax and eventually be asimilatted into the native lifestyle as well - they were hedonists to begin with, it would suit them well. Their goddess has no power over this island, where the spirits protect the elves, so they'd have no reason to be bitterm bloodthirsty warmongers. Cross breeding would mean nothing, because the genes for their eye, hair and skin color are both dominant, so it's really just random chance if they're born dark skinned or light.

>>4728428
The elves start pale and tan to brown. The drow start black and tan to brown. Nowadays the only difference between the two is what color they are when they're first born.

>>4728472
and the fact drow have white eyes.

>>4728564
Technically, they have apparently pupilless eyes that can be yellow, red, or orange, occasionally a violent or dark blue. This is actually the result of not having any reason to have their irises close, so what the PC's usually are seeing is the reflected light from the inside of their retinas, like a nocturnal animal's eyes.

They actually have eyes the same colors as everyone elses, but they never have their irises closed.

>>4728428

If a group of drow found themselves on an island in the middle of nowhere, they would probably want to set up defenses, then raid for what they needed out of habit.

But after a while, they would be pressured into finding a different way, through dwarf counter-attacks or merfolk raids or simply the hazards of the new environment.

Without spider-kissers whipping them on, the drow would mellow out somewhat - not completely, but they would lose the random stupidity lolth encourages. The abundance of food and lack of instilled paranoia would see little need for xenophobia, and they'd begin to get a little more open-minded about other races.

I think they'd remain a competitive, arrogant bunch. Dangerous sports would be a big pastime.

>>4728927

How "Mellow" the Drow are is likely to be dependent on how long they've been there. If it's only been a relatively short time, aye I'd agree with your assessment. If they've been there for long enough, they might be much more dissimilar from the culture they hailed from.

@thread:
tl;dr: Everything's the same, except everybody is way the hell more mellow. Really, it's an improvement.