Exterminatus!

The same thing we do to everything that's different, Pinky.

Commit genocide.

Launch Koreaminatus! For great zergrush!

These xenos filth dare challenge servants of the Emperor? Burn them all.

>>4590359
Fire the cyclonic torpedoes and retire to my stateroom for a light lunch.

>>4590359
Yeah, whatever.

COMMENE RESOURCE COLLECTAN OPERATIONS!!!

Retreat before the korean assault beggins.

>>4590416
*commence of course, stupid heretic keyboard...

I inform the xenos scum that the stars themselves are the domain of the God-Emperor of Mankind and his most holy Imperium and I order my helmsman to bring us about for a full broadside.

Why does this sound suspiciously like Earth?

Log the location in in our cogitators and drop grav-anchor at a point outside of the range of their weapons. Once we're there, sent a high priority message to Subsector Command; after all, that world is perfectly good for us. Why let the xenos keep it?

Politely stifle my laughter and order all ships to launch attack craft and prepare for a good old-fashioned Imperial genocide.

>>4590432
>Why does this sound suspiciously like Earth?
What do you think people will look like tousand years from now on with all the technological and ethical development?

Do survey fleets include exterminators? I'm pretty sure they don't.

All signs point to 'Destroy the Xeno Scum', sir.

>>4590472
The same as we look now, but we'll all be wearing spandex jumpsuits.

>>4590366
>>4590367
>>4590392
>>4590406
>>4590416
>>4590421
>>4590422
>>4590440
>>4590441

I'm afraid I can't allow you to do that, chaps...

>>4590472
Smoking corpses on a blackened hunk of rock, why?

correct me if i'm wrong, but retribution class ships measure several miles. You're threatening US? When your ships can be killed by space bats?

...


come and get it, space hindus
las-cannons, target their outposts and render them ash. Also, recommend me for another medal "for swift genocide"

>>4590480

Every ship that's big enough carries at least one method of Exterminatus.

>>4590487
ARE YOU THE ONES KNOWN AS 'THE DOCTOR'?

>>4590480
Depends on what the survey fleet is made of.

>>4590487
Interfere. I fucking dare you.

>>4590480
Of course do survey fleets carry exterminatus... you should feel bad for even thinking otherwise.

It's the 40th millenium, and there is only EXTERMINATUS!

>>4590480
Exterminators? There's no special gear involved. It's fucking torpedoes.

>>4590494

Bio weapon space bats.

>>4590504
is that guy holding a bolter/halbard polearm o.O

>>4590502
I think it consists of ships build around guns with guns on them.

>>4590497
quite
"i shoot at it" becomes exterminatus if the one shooting packs exowatt lascannons

>>4590472
In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, the rise of genetic engineering and extremist Animal Rights groups has deprived the human race of MOUTHS.

>>4590504

Hey, I haven't seen one of those in ages!

If you tilt his head back, does a candy pop out?

>>4590494
>correct me if i'm wrong, but retribution class ships measure several miles. You're threatening US? When your ships can be killed by space bats?
Because StarCraft is to scale, amirite?

>>4590516
Adeptus Custodes: we'll fucking stab you AND shoot you in the dick at the same time.

>>4590518
Then it should carry at least one exterminator warhead.

In the grim darkness of the far future, Protoss are the new army for 40k.

>>4590501

Uh...
...

...

...

No. No, I'm not. Really!

>>4590526
The Emperor's plot armour is better than yours. He can never die, because his plot will never advance. Run, you fool!

>>4590549
VERY WELL THEN..... EXTERMINATE!

>>4590529
Not to mention that the Protoss in SC1 did perform Exterminatus too, but there was no in-game spess ship that had anything resembling a giant energy beam.

>>4590557
GOOD END

Protoss have craftworlds now.

>>4590539
Cyclonic torpedoes to be correct.

>>4590578
That's no spaceship, that's a christmas tree bauble.

"Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else."

The imperium stands no chance.

>>4590578
No they don't. Don't you know how Blizzard works? All the Protoss live in the Nexus, because that's the only building with sufficient space they can build.


Also, Protoss buildings are teleported from fuck who knows where?

>>4590592
what's he doing back there?

On the Exterminatus note: can't the Protoss reduce a planet to a burning molten fireball as they did near the start of the game?

>>4590557

No.
Also, I went back in time and changed the blueprints of your suit's power systems to shut down whenever someone says the word "Uvula".

Do protoss count as psykers?

>>4590592
I spend 3 minutes on MSPaint to produce a more convincing image of a spaceship.

>>4590600
No they can't because they don't do it in the game.

>>4590600
Almost everybody can do that in the grimdark future.

>>4590529
Wow, that carrier is fucking tiny. It might even stand up to a small 40k merchant vessel. Maybe.

where was I, Yes.. The War. The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years; they never ran out of courage. But in the end, they ran out of time.

>>4590618

Well, that at least puts them somewhat on par with other races.

>>4590616

The game limits your power.

THe fluff for terrans involves them nuking a world ash.

Also, you can't exterminious in 40k.

spelling cancel. dinnar is ready.

>>4590602
WE ALSO WENT BACK IN TIME ANd changed the tardis to- *voice box runs out of power*

I divert the some hive fleet to the system and let it soften these protoss up.

>>4590529
Dude that is the size of an Imperial Dropship.

Imperial Dropships carry like 1/100th part of an IG force.

>>4590628
sauce on that plox

>>4590644
You can exterminatus in 40k. A little bit. The Inquisition and the Space Marines can.

>>4590627
It looks to be about five miles long, judging by the settlement underneath it. That's not insignificant.

Any Imperial unit not see in Dawn of War 2 doesn't exist

>>4590665
animooted

>>4590529
>>4590627
>>4590654
Size doesn't matter.

>>4590665

Goddamn it, not more salvettes.

>>4590665
>judging by the settlement

i didn't realise you were an expert on protoss architecture. For all you know that whole settlement could fit on a football field and that ship is dwarfed even by uss Enterprise

>>4590662
babylon 5 movie "In the beginning"

Londo tells the story about the earth war with the minbari and how the human race fought.

his speech proceeds this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbBRrK9Q-rw

>>4590662
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml1w92pk-Jc

>>4590684
Holy disparity in resource allocation, Batman!

>>4590756
>proceeds
>precedes
These things are not the same

Protoss armies field Zealot squads which are incredibly tough, almost like melee necron warriors.

Dragoons are powerful and fast, but limited weapon options

Archons are super units

Protoss Shields act as their saves, without them they're weak

Hey, how powerful a psyker would the fully manifested first Overmind be?

>>4590740
Well Timmy, you can make certain assumptions about the scale of a given structure based on the fact that the occupants are, on average, approximately ten feet tall.

>>4590756
>>4590777
That's awesome.

>>4590801
the 40k ships are huge and inefficient. bigger doesn't mean better. considering they are larger targets with the same relative firepower.

I look at in the way EVA units are gauged in size. the same ship is as big or as small as it needs to be for the context of the shot's visual effect.

>>4590848
>the 40k ships are huge and inefficient.

>I am a huge faggot because I care about mudane matters in 40k

Faggot, if your ship isn't big enough, you can't stab your enemy with swords... DUH!

<- Protoss Nexus

>>4590858
I wonder why Imperium didn't devise a giant ship that's sole purpose is to stab enemy ships with swords.

>>4590848
That is precisely what I was getting at, actually. While far larger and terrifying, 40k ships could generally we defeated by a relatively small taskforce that was manueverable and undaunted.

>>4590894
Based entirely on nothing.

>>4590844
past season 1 the show is awesome. the story has a truly epic scale and a is heart wrenching at times. "in the beginning" is a good introduction to it and whenever i run any kind of space setting RPG i try to take some of the same tone from b5.

there is a "call to arms" miniatures game too that is a sight better than BFG

>>4590927
Space Marine boarding Squads can take on such big ships. It does happen. While Space Marine Ships usually aren't as big as the imperial Navy classes can get they have a very efficient crew and means to get them to the other ship.

>>4590927
So say a fleet of capital ships arrive, launch fighters, bombers, and whatnot, and progressively gnaw away at the weapons and such, that they stand no chance because they are not FUCKHUGE HELL YEAH. I doubt that.

>>4590848
I disagree with that. In fluff, 40k ships have ridiculous numbers of guns (with each point of attack representing a full battery), and since we have no basis for comparison, we can't assume that 40k ships have relatively less firepower in comparison to other, smaller ships.

Especially since 40k ships can shoot at each other from hundreds of kilometers away, and the main Protoss fighter has to be within twice the range of a marine's rifle in order to hit the marine.

>>4591038
Not necessarily to disagree with you, but there is no base of comparison between the games. If we were to go off fluff for both series, we'd be at this forever.

>>4590359

"This is damn peculiar..."

"Yellow alert!"

>>4591073
Precisely.

>>4591073
I think that's the point of this thread, bro.

This thread is bad and you should all feel bad.

>>4591091
Let them eat static!

eldar ripoff FUCK YEAH

>>4591020

Yeah, they stand about as much chance as some speedboats and jetskis attacking an american supercarrier.

Good luck with that.

>>4591415
Wasn't there an American ship (not a supercarrier, of course) that got bombed by a small boat?

>>4591415
Somalian pirates would like a word with you. and so would the USS cole.

>>4591415
Just use reason.

>>4591496

Yeah. Pirates and terrorists can do pretty good damage against us when we're under strict orders not to fire at them.

Shit gets laughable when you actually consider how things would be if we were on a 'exterminate your race' blattle plan.

>>4591415
Is this where I should bring up Hellsing and the SR-71, or would too few people outside /a/ get that?

>>4591611
Dude we're talking about pansee fucking Blizzard Protoss vs. Imperial Navy.

Not Marysue Ultarmarine SPESS MURHEENS capturing an entire fleet with one battlebarge and two spacce morheens.

>>4591611
Pictures are needed, as it is awesome.

The Emperor was a xel'naga

>>4591704
Fuck the SR-71 crash.

Post the Rip von Winkle double penetration by Dracula penis and sniper rifle.

Xel'Naga... good news for the Naga fetishists in WoW.

>>4591415

SUP BROSEF. /k/ sent me.


In b4 millennium challenge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002


LATER FAGS

>>4591733

Damnit Xel'Naga!

>>4590756
I can't find the video of Londo's speech on youtube anywhere :(

>>4591824
>Damnit Xel'Naga
<- pic related

>>4594289
Suddenly, my interest in this thread has been renewed.

Inform the boarding parties, take their females alive.

>>4594289
DAMNIT XEL'NAGA!

Kif, lay out my formal shorts.

"40k Starships are so awesome, they're so huge and spectacular, they're unstoppable against YOUR science-fiction. Imperium FTW fufufufufuf!"

I like 40k, but this shit gets annoying. WH40k ships aren't the be-all end-all, guys.
Neither are EVE ships, but posting for comparison.

>>4594289
I find myself aroused yet confused. Nipples?

Either they have the ability to feed their young and eventually the mouth closes as they mature or at one time they did have mouths and the nipples are just left overs from evolution.

>>4594300
I read that in Zapp Branigan's voice.

>>4594462
>WH40k ships aren't the be-all end-all, guys
It is if that's all they play or read.

>>4590889
That would hardly be efficient.

If they were stabbing their ship into an enemy ship, how could they shoot torpedoes filled with men so that they can puncture the ship and get into assault with swords?

>>4594462
Lookin pretty Homeworld there, Nagifar.

>>4592589
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml1w92pk-Jc&feature=related

>>4594494

Yeah, but then why would they try to participate in a debate built around comparing the diversities between different sci-fi technologies and ships?
I mean, seriously, what kind of idiot wou-...

>www.4chan.org

... Nevermind.

>>4594462
The ragnarok is 18 kilometers long.

>>4594516

Yes, yes it is, but that doesn't make it some unstoppable behemoth, either. Titans are supposed to be huge and powerful, but if their performance in the EVE universe should be nothing but a testament to the idea that "Big doesn't mean invincible".

>>4594496
Orks do it. Tyranids do it.

Yeah Imperial ships would be fucked if they're outnumbered and they try stabbing another ship. Once you're stuck in another ship you're a giant target for everything else. Tyranids would crack open the ship and eat the insides anway

>>4594496
>>4590889
Aren't the black ships made for ramming other ships?

i see your titans and raise you an exeelee night-fighter.

where is your god now

>>4594534
like a crab leg?

>>4590889
I had an idea for a ship, well, several small ships in fact. They'd be very small and fast and have huge powerblades mounted on the front and their whole purpose would be to punch straight through the enemy ships. They'd need some kind of carrier ship though, but with the sizes of these other ships being 1-5km long, I think they could find some room.

>>4594552
They call them Brute Ramships.

Orks thought of it before you.

Superior Protoss technology would end the space battle very quickly.

Their naivete concerning the virus bombs that the ship launches at each planet just before it cracks apart would have bad results, though.

>>4594566
Damn those orks and their guile.

>>4594571
>>Superior Protoss technology would end the space battle very quickly.

>>Superior Protoss technology

>>Just a 30,000 year difference.

>>4594589
Forcefields that cover their entire ship, FTL travel that is far more reliable and quicker than Warp travel, FTL comms that does not rely on inferior human psionics, powerful energy weapons, etc.

The terrans would still win due to being so fucking batshit insane as a species (not to mention numerous) but the Protoss clearly have better tech.

>>4594566
Kiith Somtaaw did it better. They put lasers on their rams.

>>4594609
they have trouble taking out what amounts to a large angry dog with space chitin on it

>>4594511
>cannon vessels to scale
>cannon

>>4594623
Not one.

Millions. For each Zealot that they have at their disposal. And for every one they kill, countless more can be made in just minutes. Remember, the Zerg are pretty much the Tyranids, just less alien.

>>4594609
Because no ships in Warhammer 40k have shields, right?

Except, well, all of them.

>>4594589
>I don't know too much about fluff in 40k and how all advanced technology was lost

>>4590889
>>4594496
IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE ARE ONLY SWORDS.

>>4594645
For instance?

>>4594660
>>I don't know too much about 40k fluff and how most battleships are a few thousand years old and use acceptably high technology beyond thematic setting shit like manual-loading certain weapons, not to even mention Mechanicus space-fairing vessels. I know everything about 40k from /tg/.

New idea:
Long forgotten by human history, an ancient Terran civilization is once again reunited with their ancient relatives, only to discover them a twisted and corrupt race, now defined only by war and religious zealotry!

The EVE Gate re-opens, and fleets of ships pour through to the Milky Way from New Eden, thousands upon thousands of eager explorers waiting to rediscover their rightful homelands are cast into a war that is not their own!

Do the Amarr side with the Imperium? Will the Caldari see their philosophical similarities with the Tau? Can the five EVE Empires prevent the Tyranids, Necrons, and Orks from reaching New Eden, and beginning new marauding campaigns against their space?

Warhammer 40k clashes with EVE.
Epic ensues.

>>4594634
tyrnads minus the biological diamond carapace that is, which is what a lot of the bigs nid are described as having in spades

>>4594681
Play BFG and find me a single Imperial vessel that does not have at least a 1 in the SHIELD section.

I'll wait. The information is free from GW's website.

>>4594687
Goonfleet trolls everyone, the gate is forcibly closed at the expense of a million astropaths.

>>4594704

Yes, SA does ruin everything, doesn't it?

My big problem with Starcraft is the UED

Someone explain to me how the United Earth Directorate arrive in the Koprulu sector bearing exactly the same technology and design philosophy as the native Terran cultures.

How does UED divergent evolution??

>>4594716
Blizzard was being cheap and lazy as fuck, as usual

Eclipse class star destroyer was here..enjoy your fail

>>4594682
giant oversized weapons aside, every single piece of human technology is pretty lame when compared to any other science fiction setting. I remember a thread when somebody got the specifications of a Leman Russ battle tank and compared it to modern day main battle tank. The Russ lost on every single aspect. The armor was weaker, the main cannon was weaker, its speed was slower. Its only advantage was its magic engine that could burn anything to make it run.

Get rid of the fanboys and 40k has absolutely nothing

>>4594741
That's because 40K is not meant to be taken fucking seriously. Look at it. It's a fucking over-the-top GRIMDARKDARKGRIM black comedy crack-snorting parody of scifi.

>>4594716
Earth was united under a single government with almost no wars. The military tech wasn't advancing any. The poor Terran Colonists were in a state of constant warfare so they developed military tech at an advanced rate. The UED kept them under observation and made their own versions of Terran technology while making a few things of their own

>>4594741

The Leman Russ' main cannon is a 120mm - the same size as German, American, English, and others besides main battle tanks. It's only problem is the imperiums staunch need for it to fire HE and only HE all the time. Vanquisher's fire some kind of solid penetrator like modern MBTs, so I can't see the gun being less powerful. Their profile is absurdly tall however.

>>4594778 here,

this:
>>4594756

>>4594778
And the range sucks balls.

>>4594763

So much for my hope of level-headed saviors coming to save the day.

>>4594796
there is no such thing as level headed when it comes to anything with Blizzard

>>4594796
this thread was already infested with nerdraging fanboys. Your previous statements only fuel the fire

>>4594817

Oh I wouldn't say that..

>>4594778
Look up their actual quoted speeds and armor thickness equivalents.
We had tanks in WW2 that could put them to shame those aspects alone.

>>4594756
so then why do you fags take it so seriously? hurr 40k is the best setting ever and could beat every other setting combined durr

>>4594825
god, i love that game. The best platform shooter ever.

>>4594826

Were they in the imperial armour books or in white dwarf? (Would like to know because that sort of thing interests me)

I still love the idea the baneblade is a 300+ ton gothic maus.

Damage their ships,vehicles and structures, watch them for fun as they can't repair them

while I think the imperium takes it because "fuck yeah humanity", protoss carriers and terran battle cruisers are alot bigger than they appear in the games. the brood war video with the battle cruiser is huge.

Once again, StarCraft is not to scale. Units have gameplay limitations placed upon them in the context of the game that simply do not exist in their fluff.

Depends on how many Arbiters the protoss have with them. Those fuckers can teleport in reinforcements, cloak the majority of the fleet, and basicaly take a majority of the enemy ships out of combat for a period of time.

Corsairs can also use disruption webs to fuck with the Gun batteries on Imperial Ships, and fucking Emperor help you if there are Dark Archons on board the carriers. Mind controlled Astropaths and Officers dropping false orders on the crew would suck.

>>4596315
Heck, science ships are much larger than they appear in the tactical combat part. There was a mission that took place on board one, it had a huge map that held several hundred marines and various labs.

>>4594424
THAT FACE

>>4594609
lol ever seen Necrontyr tech?

Your vessel has entered fluid space. Turn back now and we shall spare your wretched lives.

Protoss vs Da Orkz

Let's see what your high level technology does against a green tide.

>>4598408
Got to love bio-weapons the size of a shuttle that can terminate Borg Cubes.

>>4598433
Protoss are basically a race of psykers and the most powerful psyker in the universe almost got killed by an Ork.

>>4598451
>Terminate Borg Cubes in a single shot.

>>4598408
Nurgle would love these guys, since if they scratch you they infect you with bio-organisms that reproduce and devour your cellular structure.

>Most powerful psyker almost killed by an Orc.
>Black Library book.
>Must be Canon.

Fuck off new fag.

PROTOSS IS WHAT COMES OUT OF AN ORK SPORE IF AN ELDAR JIZZES ON IT

>>4598408
THAT IS NOT HOW WE OPERATE. PREPARE THE BIOSHIPS TO ENTER THEIR SPACE. WE SHALL PURIFY IT WITH FIRE.

>>4598476
>Orc

I really hate how GW fanboys always justify their pet faction winning all theoretical encounters with the same two points: "Ours are bigger" and "We have more."

This is especially retarded when comparing to something like Starcraft, which is in a setting of a much smaller scale.

It's like saying one F-22 is no match for four million F-15s. Fucking duh. Quit being a retard.

>>4598486
Sounding pretty Imperium there, xeno.

>>4598486
>PURIFY IT WITH FIRE.
>species from a liquid-filled universe
er, No

>>4598516
LIQUID FIRE HUMAN. CAN'T PUT OUT THAT SHIT WITH WATER.

>>4598494
YOUR PLANETS WILL CRUMBLE TO ASH.

>>4598492
1. Chaos always wins. Chaos will always win forever at everything because it can just go "lolours" and win automatically. Chaos is the ultimate godhax powergamer fucktard.
2. Nobody gives a shit. Taking 40K seriously is like taking Fox News seriously. Except more funny.

>>4598528
BIOLOGICAL LIFE IS AN ACCIDENT

YOU ARE NOTHING

Nothing exists, all is a dream,
in a moment you will have realized this.

>>4598408

Oh man, fuck those guys. I think even touching them can kill you because of their hax immune system.

>>4591038

No, 40k ships like to get within visual range of each other ( visual as in by human eye ) and broadside one another like they're Lord Horatio fucking Nelson. Numerous comics, shorts, a few books and all the BFG material confirms this level of stupidity.

If that's not any worse Orks try to physically ram ships. In space. The concept of even getting that close is just absurd when you throw in the sheer vastness, the Z-axis and how projectiles would work in spaces ( i.e. it's missile\railgun territory ) and the ranges involved..

No, 'real' space combat you wouldn't even see your aggressor. Much like it is today. Only at even more ridiculous ranges.

And for those mentioning fighters and bombers in space... lol no. The era of space combat is apt to kill that concept like the crossbow did the knight.

HEY, GUYS, WHAT'S GOING ON ITT?

>>4598551
Fuck yes Lucifer, you are obviously Samuel Clemmens' best work!

>>4598552
Don't forget... One ship one shots a Borg cube, 8 ships linked exterminates a planet.... And they're the size of shuttles.

I'm not sure who came up with them, but it must've been a real wank fest. Granted the Borg where eventually given technology to fight back against them, even so they put the Collective into shambles.

>>4598561
>Lord Horatio
FUND IT

>>4598561
No they don't...

BFG states the scale battles are in and it's huge. Ramming a ship has a minute chance of happening.

Anyway, Long range firepower won't be missiles and torpedoes though, they're even more obsolete than fighters. Lasers all the way.

>>4598591
Missiles are more effective than you think.

ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS

>>4590480
Doesn´t matter much when even the shittiest frigate can enter orbit and enact a policy of "If it moves, nuke it. If it doesn´t, nuke it anyway."

>>4598611

And cheaper. Railguns, too, if by then we've developed more reliable ways to not burn out the magentic rods.

The future of space combat ( if any, I doubt it for a couple of centuries.. ) will be decided by missile and railgun spam and crazy electronic warfare.

>Forcefields that cover their entire ship, FTL travel that is far more reliable and quicker than Warp travel, FTL comms that does not rely on inferior human psionics, powerful energy weapons, etc.

So Eldar, basically.

>>4598537
finally, proof that a low cosmic setting can be fun too

>Its only advantage was its magic engine that could burn anything to make it run.

M1 Abrams' gas turbine will run off pretty much anything that can burn.

Military diesels are far from picky too.

>>4598611 why settle for one when you can have both

>>4594741
Save for the canon occurances where Russes get hit in the side armor and get out unscratched by shells with enough KE to tear through a modern MBT from front to end and still pack enough ounch to kill another tank.
Or the part where the gun is a good deal fucking bigger than 120mm by the sheer visuals. That thing's closer to a 8-inch cruiser gun.

40k has nothing but the fanboys? Well, the fanboys AND THE FUCKING CANON EXAMPLES.

>>4594778
Try Imperial Armour 1. Imp tanks have a rather wide variety of shells for their guns. You just have only the HE in normal games for rule streamlining.

>>4594791
LOLWUT? 72 inches range in the TT roughly translate into "If you can see it, you can hit it". Fucking snipers have 36 inches and are stated in the fluff to score headshots at up to 4 klicks.

>>4594826
Here´s a problem: The only stats given for the armor facings are in "conventional steel" and it´s an in-universe document. "Conventional steel" 38k years into the future and "conventional steel" today arne´t the same thing.

>>4598561
Except for the part where all written fluff disagrees and has 40k ships broadsiding each other from hundreds of thousands of kilometers distance. Getting close is only somewhat viable in 40k space battles because msot 40k vessels can take absurb amounts of firepower to the bare hull before even caring. Absurb is in "makes the dinokiller asteroid look like a firecracker".

I find this discussion to be intriguing. As a member of Special Circumstances, that is.

>>4599292
Culturefag detected.

Psykers.

Your culture is invalid.