waiting for hot zombie sexings

Because they say HURR?

>>4575533
Because they have some of the merciful kills by zombies, only taking enough of a bite to sever your jugular, and then holding you and stroking your hair as you bleed out.

Good for people that are committing suicide.

>>4575552

What, a painful, lingering death is better than someone just biting your throat out and having it be over in seconds? No thanks!

>>4575552
Oh, I couldn't see shit cuz of my monitor, that the zombie was a girl. Sure, I'd be all for that. Its not really suicide since you become a zombie afterwards. It'd be a little fucking awkward if it was a morbidly obese zombie that wanted to cuddle...

Can't wait to see a hunter and/or berserker attack in this comic. Given the pretty decent quality so far, I expect VIOLENCE and GORE.

>>4576043
Me too man.

>>4576061
I'm thinking the Aryan boy will have been killed either by that Hunter following them, or a Berserker later on in the story.

>>4575516
Mercies are a true bro zom type, they protect new zombies from being torn up by other zombies

Other good zombie comics:
http://www.deadwinter.cc/index.htm

This one reminds me of an AFMBE game I ran. Has similar elements; one character is a career criminal, another a waitress, and there's a psychopathic fry-cook running around. Also features a lovably stupid plumber who's got a real hardon for the Ancient Romans and the many facets of their culture, and a side-plot involving the waitress' fiance.

http://www.everydaydecay.com/
This one's pretty slow to build at first. It's about a married couple and their struggle to live a 'normal' life without any other humans nearby and zombies showing up on the front lawn. Recently took an awesome twist involving a roving survivor group who are looking for people that are 'immune' to the zombie vector.

>>4576043
I'm hoping the eventual berzerker attack involves a lot of blunt force trauma and broken limbs. Over a series of pages. For a single victim.
The hunter attack, I'm thinking one of the original group gets assigned to another group as leader, and the whole team gets taken down one at a time.

I am very pleased with the appearance of the Mercy zombie, though.

>>4576172
He has... a trench spike. Max Brooks is famous.

Zombie attacks person.
A few people get infected.
Police come and shoot rambling, moaning attackers in the face.
Zombie apocalypse does not occur.

Alernate ending:
Lots of people get infected.
People are made aware of the threat.
Military come along and shoot rambling, moaning attacks in the face.
Zombie apocalypse averted.

Actually they are called Mercy zombies because they come up to you and cuddle you like a child with their sad, dead eyes until you give them a mercy kill.

At least to best of my knowledge.

>>4576202
Do you read anything at all? Like, any genre, any book? Any fiction?

>>4576202

Alternate alternate ending:

Zombie plague is spread through a windborne vector, or ALL corpses turn into zombies, no matter the cause of death.

Zombie apocalypse occurs with great speed, as only people naturally immune or not immediately exposed to the plague survive the initial outbreak.

If I ever run a zombipocalypse game, zombies will be able to be restored to human with some pretty straightforward medical procedures, though wounds still have to be accounted for. Every time you BOOM HEADSHOT, you're killing someone that could have been saved. They're also very resistant to tazers and basically immune to tear gas, etc.

>>4576172
Half-arsed poetry of Everyday Decay is bugging the shit out of me.

Sad looking zombies image dump?

>>4576202
This is a through and through sign of someone who's only played video games.

Real life police and military are trained to aim for the torso, since it is the largest body mass and therefore the easiest to hit. They will always shoot the torso, and never the face. Hence why they almost always get pwn'd in zombie movies.

>>4576234
I always wanted a scenario where the undead "break through" the mindlessness. Like after the zombiepocalypse, nobody goes to Australia for a long ass time. After a few decades without anyone to feed on, the zombies become intelligent and peaceable.

>>4576360

So many fucking soldiers swarm and shoot the target that it would be irrelevant whether its hajji or a zombie, and they drive around in hueg convoys of armored trucks and APCs which would plow through everything.

Also, soldiers are trained during reflex firing to target the head if the torso shots don't work because the enemy might be wearing armor. Srsly.

>>4576397
You didn't answer my question:
>>4576212

>>4576404
Your question wasn't addressed to me, so I don't give a shit.

>>4576368
Day of the Dead zombies learn to use guns. Is that peaceable enough for you?

I thought zombie apocalypses was the most fucking romantic thing ever. Just you and your beloved, with society falling to pieces. No future to worry about, no disapproval to care about, no one to look after but yourselves. No long term anxiety - just day-to-day pragmatism. Live for the moment. Fantastic sex in the outdoors. Bond through harrowing escapes and stuff.

Then my girlfriend told me if there was ever a zombie apocalypse she'd kill herself immediately.

I :('d

But seriously though, anyone who likes zombie apocalypse scenarios is secretly convinced that they could survive it. For a while at least.

>>4576397
We're also trained to double-tap. While CS-style "spray for the chest" tactics don't really work, once you get used to the recoil of your rifle, double-tapping does allow for fairly consistent headshots, at least on slow-moving targets. My OC once demonstrated by firing a full thirty round magazine in forty seconds at a standing-figure target. Fifteen to the chest, fifteen to the head.

Really, though, if a lone zombie is a hundred and fifty metres away from you and moving in a straight line towards you, there's really no excuse not to plug him in the head with your first shot. It's when there's tons of them, or fast zombies, that the theory goes to hell.

>>4576420

I hope there is a way to create something like a zombie virus. Who doesn't want to see the world fucking burn?

>>4576451
Everyone?

zombies who aren't mindless=fail!!!!
they are (un)dead, they can't evolve

>>4576457
Yeah, most people don't do nihilism.
>>4576463
EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY

>>4576463

wait seriously?

They are rather boring otherwise.

Does this shit actually get good at any point, 25 pages in and it seems to be about supakawii jailbait having an arguments while blatant author-insert guy saves them all. Where the zombie action eggman?

>>4576451

I actually like the world. I've got good friends, a comfortable job & a very satisfying love life.

Fuck zombies.

>>4576451
You know, assuming the zombie outbreak is survivable (barely), it'd be interesting to see how reconstruction goes. Not post-apocalyptic Mad Max style reconstruction, but how the world recovers assuming it can recover.

Money would have lost almost all its value. Values would be much more back-to-basics. The establishment that let the disaster happen would lose a huge amount of credibility. Survivors would have experienced, for a time at least, true solitude and self-reliance. Whoever survives the outbreak would be either smart, capable, lucky, or a survivalist /k/ommando maniac.

I wonder if the world after Z-day would be a better one or a worse one.

>>4576474
Zombie scenarios are generally more about the people than the zombies. Directors just tend to have a cast full of dicks, though.

>>4576482
I think it's silly to assume infrastructure will completely dissolve, and likewise silly to assume the armed forces, police and civilians will not adapt quickly to the changed environment. Humanity is consistently overrated as a whole and underrated as a group.

>>4576482
>I wonder if the world after Z-day would be a better one or a worse one.
It'd be exactly the same, except that technology and science would have to start over yet again.

>>4576480
Just because you like your car doesn't mean the fireball of its inevitable explosion when it hits 0 HP won't be beautiful

>>4576482
better..wed lose a lot of chaff and social parasites...

>>4576471
well it SURE AS FUCK!!!!! wouldn't work as the survival of the fittest and then they evolve their brain because they use it
wtf???
SAGE

>>4576502
I don't think this is completely true either. Zombies will have no interest in science or technology, so the materials will sitll be there when it's time for us to use them again.

>>4576508
What a load of bullshit. In any major disaster, the people affected have very limited abilities to determine their own fates. You can't say we would lose so-and-so because there is no possible way to conclude that. What would happen is that a large number of useless attitudes - 'mexicans can't work', 'poor people are stupid', 'women can't do mechanical stuff' would go flying out the window, at least for the duration of the crisis.

>Survivors would have experienced, for a time at least, true solitude and self-reliance.

You stand alone - you fall alone. We're gonna be pretty well off without your kind anyway.

>>4576526
Which is why I think the world would be a better place. Society becomes momentarily united against a common foe (assuming survival; in the survivors-fight-amongst-themselves scenario we're headed for Fallout 3) and misconcepts must be discarded, values re-evaluated.

>>4576515
Yeah, it's not like zombies are deliberate saboteurs or anything. As long as a few eggheads survive it's not like we'll completely forget how to farm or generate electricity or whatever.

Personally I'd love to have a hidey-hole somewhere I can watch some dumb chav try to bottle his zombie mate in the face only to have his arm gnawed off while he screams OI! OI'M TELLIN' ME MUVVER!

>>4576546
>>misconcepts must be discarded, values re-evaluated.
>>dumb chav
>>I'd enjoy watching someone die

Urgh... I feel offended that you agree with me.

>>4576515
Most people know very little outside of their specific field of knowledge and half the time what they know wouldn't even be useful in a dark ages scenario because our society is built around advanced technology. Do you know how to blacksmith, farm or run a power station? Plus most science journals don't even publish hard copies anymore, most of the scientific advancements from the last decade or so would be totally lost unless the data were rescued from the database hard drives within a few years of the power going out.

>>4576529
Solitude as in not having a cohesive 'society' to fall back on. No public opinion, no social institutions, no services etc.

I do think that anyone who survives will have been part of one of the following:
1) extremely small group, ie a family unit with a prepared shelter, or in an isolated location
2) medium size group, about twenty people, who either knew each other before or are lucky enough to get along
3) large group with a clear-cut hierarchy and chain of command (a company of soldiers in a fortified barracks).

Democracy won't work, and disagreements + improvised weaponry + high stress levels tend to breed brawls and more corpses.

>>4576571
Why on earth would everyone with this knowledge die, all the hard copies of the knowledge be ruined, or humanity be unable to power an area with a secure perimeter?

>>4576578
That only happens in movies, real people don't just flip out kill members of their own group, especially when the group is under threat from outside aggressors.

>>4576567
If you had chavs where you're at, you would agree with me on this one.

>>4576571
It's not like I'm suggesting we'd immediately be able to put satellites in space or build another LHC or something - but essentials, like agriculture, construction, and medicine, should survive. I mean, sure, specialists would be few and far between, but assuming it doesn't take three decades or some bullshit to put the zombies down, they'd still be there, and skills can be trained.

>>4576420
Well...yeah. That's kinda the point.

>>4576578
>>No public opinion, no social institutions, no services etc.
I have no idea why you consider this to be true.

>>4576598
>>If you had chavs where you're at, you would agree with me on this one.
I live in Britain. Accept that this argument is flawed.

>>4576596
Real people? Real people will do whatever occurs to them in the heat of the moment. 'Real' people aren't always rational ones, or intelligent ones.

>>4576596
In fact it's the only time people don't bicker or have insane amount of infighting is when a threat is fucking there.

>>4576475
>blatant author-insert guy
Author's a chick, dude. Good job.

>>4576567
There's a difference between discarding unwarranted prejudices and wanting a legitimately idiotic person to get fragged.

>>4576617
Sometimes they are. Any group which proceeds in a rational manner will have an increased chance of survival over a group which does not.
>>Real people will do whatever occurs to them in the heat of the moment
Such shite.

>>4576616
So do I. Really? You'd want chavs in post-apocalypse reconstruction-era Britain? Huh. I suppose it takes all sorts. I really do think society can do with trimming the fat once in a while.

>>4576602
My point is that not everyone who considers themselves a guaranteed survivor is actually likely to be one.

>>4576610
-shrug- I suppose it depends on your definition of 'apocalypse' in the context of 'zombie apocalypse'. If you're imagining a Shaun of the Dead scenario when a few days after outbreak the military comes back and saves everyone, I guess you'd be right. I'm expecting something a little more extreme though.

>>4576626
Authors can change minor details when they insert themselves.

Everyone would survive a zombie outbreak because zombies are slow and dumb

>>4576583
A) Because the number of people who actually have 'this knowledge' is roughly fuck all, especially in the case of farming without modern technology, which is a possibility.
B)What hard copies?
C)Power it with what? Even if you can find someone who knows how to run a powerplant of any sort, you still have to fuel it with something.

>>4576643
>>So do I. Really? You'd want chavs in post-apocalypse reconstruction-era Britain? Huh. I suppose it takes all sorts. I really do think society can do with trimming the fat once in a while.
Obviously you do, that's why I mentioned that I did also. I see no reason to typify a specific group of people as unworthy to survive - I've met plently of chavs who I'd be happy to have with me in a crisis situation, and others who I wouldn't be so pleased with. To carry on your analogy, getting some exercise is always more desirable than just cutting the fat away.

>>-shrug- I suppose it depends on your definition of 'apocalypse' in the context of 'zombie apocalypse'. If you're imagining a Shaun of the Dead scenario when a few days after outbreak the military comes back and saves everyone, I guess you'd be right. I'm expecting something a little more extreme though.
Even in a years long zombie apocalypse I would not expect the military or civil infrastructure to collapse completely.

>>4576671
Fuel it with fuel. From fuel stockpiles.

You don't need to know how complicated apparatus works to actually operate it assuming it's in working condition. And I think it's fairly safe to assume that whatever has been published in journals so cutting edge that they don't bother with hardcopies is unlikely to be 'survival essential', it being so advanced and all.

>>4576695
>Fuel it with fuel. From fuel stockpiles.
What fuel stock piles, where? Would the average person even know where to begin looking for a oil or coal 'stock pile'?

>You don't need to know how complicated apparatus works to actually operate it
Hol-eee-shiiittt.

>Democracy won't work, and disagreements + improvised weaponry + high stress levels tend to breed brawls and more corpses.

Democracy was pretty much the first form of gouvernment after we stopped living in herds. We usually elected our leaders for the duration of a crisis with the option of stabbing them in the back/drowning them in the bathtube as soon as they turned out to be a liability.

>>4576653
Good save, fag.

I think, seriously, the big problem will be toiletries.

I'm talking about things like tissue paper. Deodorant. American society at large is so concerned with image, despite raging obesity, that we're not used to the way people really smell after a few days of digging trenches and erecting barricades.

There's an increasing number of people with eczema in America. These people can get a rash from sweat and sebum. That's right. THEY GET A RASH FROM SOMETHING THEIR SKIN PRODUCES NATURALLY.

That's how I see my wife going. Not by zombies (she's a black belt, and we go shooting on the range on weekends), but because she gets into a shootout over an Aveeno stockpile.

>>4576722
Can you build a car with your bare hands? No? Then obviously you can't drive one! Can you forge a knife? No? Then obviously you can't use one to cut vegetables! Can you program an operating system? No? Obviously you can't be on the internet because you can't use a computer!

If equipment required its user to be so thoroughly familiar with its use and construction that he could BUILD IT HIMSELF, claymore mines wouldn't have THIS WAY TOWARDS ENEMY on them. Machines are built by people who know how they work for people who know how to work them to use. Sometimes, these people overlap. Yes, extreme technical expertise and theoreticaly know-how on the part of the operator does make his efforts safer/more effective. It's not always a prerequisite.

I'm not suggesting everyone find a fuel stockpile in their backyard. All it takes is one person to find one. Would it be difficult? Yes. IMPOSSIBLE? Hardly.

>>4576764
Consider as well that some elements of the government are likely to survive and wish to retain their role. This will help with finding rare or difficult to locate supplies.

>>4576756
/thread

>>4576750
>>democracy was the first form of government
>>tribal chieftains
>>kings
>>theocrats
No.

Unless you're referring to tanistry or something similar, in which case the vote was so highly restricted that it cannot be compared to contemporary democracy.

http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-apocalypse-never/

>>4576764
Jesus Christ you fail, there's a big fucking difference between learning how to use simple, intuitive tools like knives and the internet through trial and error and operating a power-station which has THOUSANDS of intricate systems that all need to be in working order for the thing to even run. Then even if you could achieve that you would have to know how the power grid was run and maintained in order to actually power anything which is yet thousands more systems that you would have to work out. Just shut the fuck up.

I personally just want to see how many people shit themself silly when all their preconcieved notions of life and death are thrown out the window, and something that they firmly believed could not happen does.

Because nothing shatters your worldview like seeing a corpse walking your direction. The shock and awe value would be what kills most of the casualties in a zombie apocalypse.

>>4576764
Ok then. Explain how you would use a generator to provide an area with electric light, hot water, and warmth. Where would you get the fuel for it? If it broke, how would you fix it? There's a difference between using something that was made to be used by pretty much anyone, and actually trying to make use of a more complicated set of tools.

Any chance this could be archived? It's a fairly interesting 'zombie apocalypse' (or apocalypse in general) thread.

So, guys, how many of you have a zombie plan? I do.

>>4576835
-shrug- Start small. Some generators are the size of a tool-box. You could use one to light up a room. Some can light up a house. Eventually, once the pressure to SURVIVE starts to wane, reverse-engineer, tinker, explore. Any sufficiently complicated machinery will come with manuals and so on. I'm not suggesting it will be easy, but I don't think it'll be impossible either.

If gun-tards on /k/ can come up with a schematic to build a home-made shotgun, some civil engineer could rig up a modest-sized waterwheel with a dynamo to light up/warm his house. Then, compare what we've built with the relics left behind.

It's not like it's goddamn alien future technology or something like that.

>>4576842
Would a zombie apocalypse make people more religious... or less?

>>4576856
I do. I doubt it'll work, because of the human factor, but hey.

>>4576881
The zombie looks like a fa/tg/uy.

>>4576882
I think a bit of both. If I had to guess, it'd polarize the population. People would either become hyperfaithful, or not at all.

>>4576882
It would depend on the person. Definitely there should be an expected increase in extremist beliefs of all kinds. After a scientific reason for the infection is found though, I think we'd settle down to about our usual level. It's possible that such an event would really be a chance for the churches to 'do good' on a more public scale than usual and hence gain some more believers/respect of prestige for their actions.

>>4576420
Agreed

>>4576882
>some civil engineer
Good job, you just completely contradicted your entire argument.

>>4576882
>Would a zombie apocalypse make people more religious... or less?

yes

>>4576856
My plan is:
Pack all of my accessible family, friends, food, water and useful equipment into our cars and head for a disused quarry (filled with water) that I know of in middle of the bush then live off bush yams and fish and fail at killing wallabies until we could work out how to farm something useful.
If we didn't make it to the quarry then we would have to roll with it (die).

>>4576934
No, he didn't. What, are the only people that survive going to be those without useable skills of any kind?

>>4576934
Why? Because there won't be a single civil engineer left? I'm not suggesting that retards and five year olds will rebuild civilization - just that the few specialists who DO remain should be able to come up with something to keep us chugging along.

>>4576951
My plan: grab as much nonperishable shit and bottled water as I can from the local foodstuff shops on campus (thank God for can openers!), and hole up in my dorm. 7 floors up, with large, heavy, deadbolted doors. Barricade the stairs just in case with the extra beds, and kill the elevators.

Wait.

Once the initial shock and pandemonium's worn off, make a break for the boonies and head west with all haste.

If not for the other people in the world, it'd be perfect.

>>4576882
In a total collapse humanity would be flat out farming enough food to survive the next winter, and the winter after that, and the one after that and so on for decades; there's fuck all chance that you're going to be wasting time or petrol trying to run or reverse engineer small electric generator to make electricity for shit you don't even need.

>>4576951
DON'T TELL US YOUR PLAN, MAN!

>>4576962
If you've ever had to work with a civil engineering you'll be painfully aware that it is not a useful skill.

>>4576980
Keep your dirty mitts off my quarry.

>>4576976
The collapse wouldn't necessarily be total, though.

>>4576975
I'm situated in quite a good area. Nearby me there's a large supermarket and, 10 minutes away from that, a workshop build specially for blind people to work in in a run-down industrial area. The workshop has one open glass door that a car can be parked in front of, two heavy doors and no windows on the ground floor.

>>4576976
Subsitence farming is made a metric fuckton easier with the advent of refridgerators. Not to mention all the wonderful breeds of motorized farming tool, water pumps for irrigation, etc. Not everybody's lucky enough to live in good, fertile ground.

Didn't know about this comic. Read it all in a few minutes. Now I am depressed. Fuck you all.

>>4576998
>there's large looted building that used to be a supermarket
What use is that? :|

>>4577011
I'm situated so close to that place you would have to be inside it to get there any faster than I am.

>>4576976
>>humanity would be flat out farming enough food to survive the next winter
Or you know, not, in countries where winter isn't a problem. 3 billion people live in the tropics and subtropics. No winter. Ever.

>>4577008
You're not going to be wasting fuel for any of that shit because even if you were lucky enough to live near a pristine service station that shit will be gone in a few months unless it's literally you.

>>4576800

Head-hunter tribes are oftentimes ruled by classes defined through age and through having undergone certain rites of passage together. The old people usually would like to live the quiet life and in contrast to them stand the younger folks, who're still warriors and would rather smack somebody over the head, take skalps and steal women. Those warriors usually had an elected leader. Both groups try to define the politics of their tribe to the benefit of their own age group through a quasi-democratic process. Mostly because everyone's gonna be caught up in the shit-storm if even a single person fucks up with the neighbour.

That's an example of a very primitive society and that sort of organisation probably came before the Big Warrior Man somehow managed to monopolize many religious and economic functions around his war-group.

Someday, just to fuck with people I want to write a zombie movie where the rugged survivalist gets killed by zombies and the people who work together all survive.

You never see that.

>>4577031
Most of those people live in India bro, they still get winter plus they also get violent floods and rain during the monsoon season.

>>4577062
thats because nobody survives a zombie apocalypse.

>>4577033
There's a lovely kind of tool known to mankind as a still. Alcohol can, in a pinch, fuel a good many breed of generator. Congradulations, mate, for not helping your point any. Besides which, if you're stopping at a service station for gas with zombies walking around, you're just asking for it.

Thank you, try again?

>>4576764

What happens ten years down the road when the fuel and spares start running out?

This picture, for instance, represents a one day supply of coal for an electrical power plant.

not a month, not a week, but a single day.

>>4577062
Like, the cocky biker gets caught by a zombie and the government guy he was arguing with earlier is the only guy that's noticed, and he's just leaving. Then he shoots the zombie in the head and he's like, 'Watch it, man. We need everyone we can get right now.'

In a zombie apocalypse, I'd probably die.

I can hold down the fort easy, but unless I connected with a group I'd run out of resources in a few weeks. I am creative enough to makeshift what I need but unless there's someone to watch my back when something breaks down, I'd be fucked.

>>4577040
... Not sure that idea is backed up by either anthropology or archaeology. I mean, it's a nice myth, but it comes from the 1800s-1970s habit of assuming that 'if they be negroes they be primitives'.

So called 'primitive societies' are often far more complex than they appear.

>>4577040
Who elected the leaders? The warriors? The women? Everyone? Were all men warriors? Could women be warriors?

Also, [citation required]

>>4577081
>>live in India
And Africa, and Indonesia, and Latin America, etc etc

>>4577033
Okay. When the world goes up in smoke, the rest of us will be over here sharing resources and trying to work together, and you can go back to attempting to dig up roots with your lower canines. No harm, no foul.

>>4577086
And what is alcohol made from? Food crops.

>>4577088
An electrical power plant that supplies energy to millions of people, most of whom WILL BE DEAD.

Burn coal, fuel boiler, steam turbine -> POST-ZOMBIE STEAMPUNK

>>4576845
+1 Archive plox.

>>4577091
Precisely. It seems like zombie movies always reward people who are paranoid, trigger happy loners, instead of people who actually try to cooperate.

In my mind the opposite always made more sense...

>>4577092

Welcome to the winning team, friend.
Let's go hit up a hospital, get a nice quiet bite.

>>4577124
Yup. But unless you're suggesting that all crops except for the ones you grow at the time of just up and vanish, or that somehow the gas will magically dissappear when all the people die, your argument is still flawed. Besides, the return value for having the proper tools to farm better will be worth the expenditure.

Also. Won't be wasting fuel on electronics. Tell me, chief, what will I be using fuel on? Last I checked, drinking gasoline was unpleasant.

if you're not reproducing and trying to recreate society then why are you even scrounging to subsist?

AGRICULTURE ISN'T HARD, I GROW HALF MY FOOD IN MY BACK YARD.

THE CITY HALL HAS A MAP OF SEVERAL COAL STORAGE WAREHOUSES, AND I COULD PROBABLY GLEAN A FEW MORE BY CHECKING THE ONES WITH MORE ESOTERIC NAMES (Burnco?)

JESUS CHRIST, CIVILIZATION IS NOT HARD IF IT'S ALL JUST LYING AROUND TO GRAB.

>>4577138
Because the movies do it for the viewing factor. I challenge anyone present to try and solo a zombie apocalypse. I hope you can find good, secure shelter every night, cus you gotta sleep sometime.

>>4577152
Because only women can become zombies. All women are dead.

...

;_;

>>4576843
generator -> adaptor -> power. not hard.

Generator broke? steal parts from nearby american automobiles, standardization (to the imperial system) means that any broken nuts, bolts, or other simple, easily breakable components could be found just wherever. If it breaks in a more complicated way, I either A. replace the broken bit with parts from another generator, or just replace it entirely. I then take apart the old one, to see what it's built like.

Seriously, you 'tarded?

>>you're suggesting that all crops except for the ones you grow at the time of just up and vanish,

For a surprising amount of modern crops, this is indeed the case. Wheat, for example, can't grow wild. It gets choked and killed by slightly non-ideal conditions. Every banana tree is a clone, reproducing via graft for the past few centuries. It takes some 500 pound of bananas to get a single viable seed.

>>4577219
not every banana just the ones you see in the supermarket. There are dozens of other species of bananas that aren't farmed.

>>4577219
Point taken.
But canned food is eternal. And I'm pretty sure there's enough canned food on campus, much less in the local walmart, to feed a few hundred people for a year. With everything these days being on shelves waiting for a wave of mewling consumers to indulge in, there's going to be a great excess of nonperishables for the survivors. Assuming apocalypse style majority of population dies off, that is.

>>4577217
>standardization
>imperial system

>>4577134
Seconded.

Wait wait wait.

I'm not the only person who reads this gem of a webcomic?

Fuck year.

>>4577258
I know, we do the craziest things in 'murka. that's why I -specified- which system it was standardized to.

>>4577219
Grafting doesn't require SUPER HIGH TECHNOLOGY. It requires a knife, some soil, and some water. Last I checked, all of those things are likely to survive a zombie apocalypse.

Unless zombies contaminate the ground upon decomposition, making all crops grown on the soil infectious as well.

Oh shit.

>... Not sure that idea is backed up by either anthropology or archaeology. I mean, it's a nice myth, but it comes from the 1800s-1970s habit of assuming that 'if they be negroes they be primitives'.

The part about headhunters? I've read that in a recent publication about conflict and conflict management in such societies.

>So called 'primitive societies' are often far more complex than they appear.

They certainly are. Still, it seems that as long as their numbers are small, people prefer to live in quasi-democratic societies. They are of course not democracies in any modern sense but they usually try to create consense amongst themselves and act united. Mostly because conflicts with any other groups'll potentially lead to their anihilation. Which is pretty much the situation present with Zombies around.

>>4577122
And Africa, and Indonesia, and Latin America, etc etc
Africa and Indonesia have trouble feeding their populations as it is and most of latin america has shitty land (growing rain forest and bananas is not the same as grown food crops) and is not in the tropics anyway.

>>4577133
What are you going to make the team turbine with, an anvil and hammer?

>>4577150
Wow ok seriously, for starters you're not going to be using nearby arable land to grown biofuel if you want to eat and secondly you're not going to be trying to tend a field of barely or canola when you're trying to learn how to farm without machinery. Oh and by the way, can't run a tractor on alcohol, so unless you have some work animals you're plowing the hard way and carrying your barley from the next field by hand.

>>4577289
If that happens, you'll have to switch to hydroponics. Difficult, because you have to be sure to add nutrients to the water, which means you would have to have a compost heap or something. Or, have some nutrient chemical, but that would take a trip to the farmer's market waaaay at the edge of town- do you really wanna do that in a zombie situation?

>>4577289
Now THAT would suck like nothing else. You'd have to fight like a demon to keep your dirt from getting tainted and screwing you to the wall. Now I've got visions of corrupt beef because of tainted grass...

>>4577301
>Anvil and hammer?

Actually, when we aren't using a machine, fabricators use a solid surface and a hammer to get the shape they want. That is how it is actually done, imagine that.

Also, again, I grow half my food intake in my back yard. It could be ALL of my intake, but I like to waste space on flowers 'n' such. It is -not- hard to grow stuff, you get seeds and throw them in the dirt. If you want to be fancy, you PLANT the seeds. If you want to be SUPER fancy, you fertilize them.

also, what primative society grows -wheat- as a primary food if agriculture is going to be a problem? We'll most likely be growing soy and tubers.

>>4577251
Haha no, go check the used by dates on some of your canned food.

>>4577339
2015 for my canned soups

>>4577062
A friend of mine wants to do something similar. Have an action movie with an obvious protagonist. He's tough, strong, breaks all the rules for what he knows is right. Halfway through, he's chasing after the badguy on foot across a busy motorway, and gets hit by a truck and dies or gets put into a coma.

The remainder of the movie would involve everyone else dealing with it. The villain wouldn't even need to come back or anything. But if he did, he'd probably fall in love with the dead 'hero''s wife/girlfriend, and eventually figure out that he's the reason so many lives were torn apart.

>>4577301
Once again, I point out the excess of nonperishables in the supermarkets. Tell me, I DARE YOU to tell me that'll all be gone. Secondly, no. Stock engines don't run on alcohol. But it is NOT hard to modify them to. All you need are basic tools that aren't going to go anywhere during an apocalypse, that most farmers have in ready supply.

Also, seriously. Where the fuck are you getting that all the fuel's gonna up and vanish? That's my biggest question to your argument. You make it sound like we're going to the stone age again.

>>4577062
Read "Dies the Fire"

It's not zombie apocalypse, but this is expressed in an incident in the novel to the point of even calling the soon to be deceased "survivalists."

>>4577301
>>Africa and Indonesia have trouble feeding their populations as it is
Boy, you're really not getting into this "lots of people die" scenario, are you?

>>What are you going to make the team turbine with, an anvil and hammer?
And a box of scraps! In a cave!

Actually I'd just TAKE THE FUCKING THING.

Also, wind power and water power - not reliant on fuels, doesn't have to generate electricity. A water mill is more than capable of pumping water and helping irrigation, as well as providing mechanical power for construction if necessary.

>>some work animals you're plowing the hard way and carrying your barley from the next field by hand.
I honestly don't see the problem in this.

I mean, sure, you won't be able to do all this shit by yourself, but in a community? It won't be easy, but again, not impossible.

>>4577336
>I grow half my food intake
I find that extremely hard to believe unless you live alone.

Zombie apocalypses don't end. You will ALWAYS be on the run. FOREVER. You will NEVER be able to "farm" or "produce" or do anthing but run.

>>4577339
If I can drink orange juice canned during the cold war around 1989 in the year 2008, with no ill effects, I'm pretty sure I can eat canned beets. Canned food can and has been proven to last up to thirty or more years. If pickles and venison can last 30 years, then I don't think there's much a problem here.

>>4577388
I don't, but they don't like my vegetables much.

When the apocalypse comes, there will be MAYBE 200 people left alive. Thats not enough to do SHIT.

>>4577388
It's not hard. My parents do the same thing. My dad's the only person gardening, and we usually produce too much of x vegetable to eat, and usually produce about 50% of our food.
Also, he's not working on it too much. He runs a business, and does stonecarving.

Zombie apocalypses last for two or three hundred years minimum. Thats only realistic.

>>4577420
>>Zombies
>>realistic

Man, your debating skills are impeccable.

>>4577392
Read the rest of the thread.

>>4577388
How is it not possible?

Assume the following: if he's growing food, he has enough water to do so, and as much land as he requires, because everyone is dead. He eats eight potatoes a day. He requires 2,920 potatoes a year. Potatoes take four months to grow (May, June, July, August). Each potato plant yields an average of a dozen potatoes, size varying on time of harvest.

He needs to plant 243 potato plants (2,920/12). Let's say you give each potato plant a very generous three feet of clearance. He has to plough 729 feet of soil. Let's say with the help of an animal or animals, he can plough and seed 120 feet of soil per day (or plant 40 plants).

He should be able to plant all the plants he needs in about a week. He has 51 other weeks in the entire year to supplement his diet by hunting, planting other crops, and scavenging, not to mention attempt reconstruction and whatnot.

1 week out of 52. That's leaving a significant margin for error. Sure, drought, famine and whatnot will take its toll on people. Nobody said it would be easy.

>>4577578
oh man, I love potatoes.

I'm gonna grow some onions too, and some garlic.

so delicious.

Though, I don't like soy or most of the protein crops... maybe I'll live for a few years on protein suppliments? my local fitness store has enough to last me a year at least.

>>4577578
We started with zombie hunters and ended with Harvest Moon.

Well played, /tg/

>>4577420
How do you figure?

Eventually, zombies rot. Under even ideal conditions they've got a shelf life of about 6 weeks, unless whatever makes them a zombie also keeps them disinfected, which would only prolong their lives another couple months before changing temperature and moisture breaks them down. Sure, if people were stupid and never learned from mistakes it'd last a while longer. This means for the plague to last very long at all new zombies will need to be made. Eventually it's all corpses in the streets.

I'd say... fifty years. Within five years zombie avoidance/combat would be common knowledge, in ten the new population centers would be properly protected and there's be daily practices on dummies for zombie-killing techniques. Twenty years in, and people would talk about that last time, some seven years ago, when someone breached a protocol. Thirty years in, there'd be talk of a zombie spotted on the outskirts of town. Forty years in, we'd have teams of people clearing out old New York and other cities. By year 50, the only remaining zombies would be maybe the ones frozen in permafrost or kept in labs.

>>4577420
Zombie apocalypse will last a year at most, we will beat the dead back even before they decompose. That's where mandatory cremation goes in. And cremator squads for emergency burials. The first apocalypse to befall mankind will only create new jobs.

>>4577723
Long overdue. Time to get rid of all the useless elements in society. Like all those American fatties eating the world to death.

>>4577723
oh shit- I've signed up for a course in undertaking, I'll be going in a few months.

Zombies would be the best thing EVER for me!

>>4577762

Hrm. Hiro: Combat Undertaker! This will be my next BESM campaign!

>>4577762
What, so you'll be stuck in a morgue with hundreds of the walking dead?

I think >>4577779 is going to be a short campaign.

I always planned to drive far up into the hills and live in my mom's family cabin, barricade the two large double doors with a row boats.I'll hunt and fish during the summer and hopefully gather enough canned food to survive the winter.

>>4577823
dude, if you knew anything about undertaking, this wouldn't be a problem. Any dead you get basically have their internals solidified with preservative. It would be like being attacked by an action figure with three points of articulation.

Also, the local morgue is built like a fucking fort. I assume this is similar everywhere.

>>4577823

>>4577849
though, this is a good point. From now on, I'm doing all my undertaking with a loaded weapon.

Your zombie apolacypse? It will have to get in the line.

>>4577884
I start hearing hooves, and I'm running for the fucking hills.

>>4577868
ladies and gentlemen, I believe /tg/ just stopped the zombie outbreak with a little bit of information.

Uhm... Farmers would be the LAST to die in a zombie apocalypse. Seriously. They live alone out in the wilderness. They're not going to be set upon by zombies.

>>4578039
Go to a modern farm. I assure you, there is incredibly little wilderness involved.

>>4578079
There are tractors, however. What the fuck are zombies going to do about this motherfucker?

>>4578107
Wait for him to have to refuel?

>>4578121 Wait
Zombies. I mean, zombies. Really?

>>4577008

>Good, Fertile Ground.

You fail at botany. GFG does not exist, certain crops grow well in certain areas(EXCEPT AUSTRALIA, THEY HAVE NOT HAD AN EARTHQUAKE SINCE THE GREAT SAURIAN LIZARDS DIED OFF). I will enjoy eating a steady supply of squash, asparagus, tomatoes, and potatoes, with strawberries for variety once I get my ass out to the badlands of new mexico.

>>4578147
Yup. Zombies. Never said it was likely.

>>4578170 badlands of new mexico

You have any idea how hard it is to grow shit here? I mean, seriously. The pueblo indians ate corn and beans for a fucking reason (HINT: it wasn't because they liked corn and fucking beans).

>>4577884
sauce

>>4578079
Perhaps no wilderness, but they still live out in the boonies away from people.