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    192 KB Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:20 No.4070785  

    Because it's apparently language time on /tg/, I thought I'd throw you a vocabulary of a language that statistically, nobody speaks. There are two million Slovenians on this earth, and we have one of the highest rates of suicide in Europe. Go us.

    Smrt = Death (Mrtev = dead) (also, Death is traditionally considered to be female)
    Kamen = Stone (duh)
    Jeklo = Iron
    Kovina = Steel
    Velik = Great, huge
    Bolechina = Pain
    Krempely = Claw
    Strup = Poison, toxic
    Prekletstvo = Curse
    Grob = crypt, grave
    Grobnica = tomb
    Pokopalische = Graveyard (literally, "where you bury stuff")
    Vitez = Knight
    Krizhar = Crusader (Krizh = Cross)
    Charovnik, Charodey = Wizard
    Mag = Mage/Magican
    Lovec = Hunter
    Duh = Ghost
    Talec = Hostage
    Noch = Night
    Truplo = Corpse
    Grom = Thunder
    Ogeny = Fire (duh)
    Gora = Mountain
    Trdnyava = Fortress
    Grad = Castle
    Bolezen = Disease, illness etc.
    Nebesa in Pekel = Heaven and Hell (Heaven is a plural word while Pekel is singular)
    Rezilo = Blade
    Mech = Sword
    Hudich = The Devil
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/24/09(Tue)12:21 No.4070794
    ...Must you make a new thread each time?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:22 No.4070801

    You realize the point of the latin/german/french threads was to show terms in languages that game designers steal ALL THE TIME, right?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:22 No.4070803
    I am an entirely different person.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:22 No.4070806
    Unfortunately, despite being a stylish European traveller, I don't know very much about Slovenian. Could you provide a pronunciation guide as well?
    I know some Russian, if that helps.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:23 No.4070813
    The rest show terms in languages that SHOULD BE STOLEN more often, or that's what I think.
    >> A-Flat Minor ♪ 03/24/09(Tue)12:25 No.4070834
    My point stands. We have a ton of threads for these already. You could have picked any one of them.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:26 No.4070842
    >Kamen = Stone (duh)

    In Slovenia...Kamen Rider is a DWARF!
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:26 No.4070844
    I've tried to write them vaguely phonetically, what with all the y's and stuff. Slovenian doesn't have Y, W or Q, and what we write as j we pronounce the way English folk pronounce y. If we want to pronounce something the way you pronounce j, we write "dj".

    Also, pretty much all the vowels should technically be written with an h afterwards if you really want to make an american pronounce them vaguely correctly. So kovina would probably be more phonetically spelled kohvihnah.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:26 No.4070846
    /tg/ - Travel Guides
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:27 No.4070858
    Someone should collate the useful bits of all the language threads, and make a .doc of it or something. It could prove a handy resource.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:29 No.4070875
    Oh, another pronunciation tip occurs to me. If a word ends with a c, that doesn't mean you should pronounce it as a k. So lovec is not made out of sweet gentle love and a "k", because the c is prounced as what you usually render as ts.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:29 No.4070878
    Man, something in my brain always autocorrects "kamen rider" to "kekko kamen rider".

    I should probably get that fixed.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:30 No.4070887
    you have no history, culture, or reason to be a country

    even the parody of better slav languages you'd like to call your language is shit
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:33 No.4070928

    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:34 No.4070946
    Well, at least you can buy alcohol really cheap there.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:40 No.4071002
    We have a long history of being oppressed by fucking Germans. Well, fucking Austrians to be more specific. And we have a long standing culture of getting drunk and having our first books written in our language burned by the Catholic Church. The reason we're a country is because we were the first to notice Yugoslavia was falling apart and we got the fuck out while the getting was good, which meant that we managed to beat off the army that tried to stop us in ten days of war. We were lucky - the next bit of yugoslavia that tried to make itself independent was fought for much harder.
    I've seen interviews of the soldiers our side captured. The grunts of the Yugoslav National Army had been told they were coming to defend us from a NATO invasion so they had no idea WTF was going on when the Slovenian forces started shooting at them.
    Also, I noticed the German has more words up, so here you go!

    Eagle = Orel
    Falcon/Hawk = Sokol
    Bear = Medved
    Lion = Lev
    Wolf = Volk
    Fox = Lisica (lee-sitsa)
    Cat = Matchka, or Matchek if it's a boy-cat
    Mouse = Mish, or Mishka if it's small
    Rat = Podgana
    Marten = ??? I have no idea what this word means.
    Ermine = I think this is some sort of rodent.
    Weasel = Podlasica
    Rhino = Nosorog. (lit. nose-horn)
    Unicorn = Samorog (lit. solitary-horn)
    Faery = Vila (veela, such as the ones in Harry Potter)
    Dragon = Zmay
    Wyrm/Drake = No equivalent word exists
    Demon = Demon
    Devil = Huditch, Hudi Duh (lit. The Bad Spirit) Peklenschek (someone from, or made of Hell)
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:47 No.4071076
    Also, in a lot of these words, you might find a lot of letters missing vowels. This is because Slovenian is a great fan of the invisible half-vowel you get when you pronounce the "u" in DURRRRRR HURRR. Or the e in DERP. So you just stick a short version of that sound into words like SMRT (death, if you recall)
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:52 No.4071119
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    I don't see you on this picture.

    Therefore, you don't exist.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:54 No.4071136
    According to that picture Canada doesn't exist either. Or Brazil. Stupid fucking Japan.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)12:58 No.4071163
    That's because we got kicked over by the Nazis almost immediately and spent the whole war hiding in the woods, taking pot shots at troop carriers.

    Well, actually we were also occupied by Italy, whose incompetence was the only reason our partisan guerillas ever got their hands on serious weaponry, since you could steal from the Italians to fight the Germans. After italy kicked it and only the Germans remained, shit was less fun.

    Actually, only half of Slovenia fought the Nazis, the other half signed on with the Catholic church into Homeguard units which fought alongside the Nazis to prevent this area from falling under Soviet influence.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:01 No.4071179
    Your church was doing it wrong.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:03 No.4071199
    In the upper right, is that supposed to be an Albanian, who is also an albino?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:05 No.4071210
    Oh, that's an old Prussian flag...
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:08 No.4071242

    How about some of your crazy grammar up in this motherfucker?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:11 No.4071272

    Prussia, everybody hates Prussia, that's why they're alone. Originaly even the Germans hated Prussia.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:12 No.4071276
    A lot of these words hold the same meaning in pretty much every slavic language. Interesting.
    >> Muon 03/24/09(Tue)13:13 No.4071289
    Statistically, no one speaks Wichita. There is one extant fluent speaker, and she's been alive since 1927.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:13 No.4071293
    NOW I understand that phrase they use in Chechnya. Svobodna ili smert I think?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:16 No.4071323
    Maybe "Svoboda ili smert"? It's "Liberty or death!"
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:19 No.4071355
    Well, let's see. There are lots of ways you modify words. For an example, bear ("medved") has these options

    1. Medved (bear)
    2. Medveda (of the bear)
    3. Medvedu (to the bear, in the sense of giving the bear something)
    4. Medveda (to the bear, in the sense of doing something to the bear)
    5. pri Medvedu (by the bear, in the vicinity)
    6. z Medvedom (with the bear)

    And that was singular.

    Then, two bears.

    1. Dva Medveda( two bears)
    2. Dveh Medvedov (of two bears)
    3. Dvema Medvedoma (giving something to two bears)
    4. Dva Medveda (doing something to two bears)
    5. pri Dveh Medvedih (next to two bears)
    6. z Dvema Medvedoma (with two bears)

    and now three bears!

    1. Triye Medvedi (three bears)
    2. Treh Medvedov (of three bears)
    3. Trem Medvedom (giving shit to three bears)
    4. Tri Medvede (doing shit to three bears)
    5. pri Treh Medvedih (next to three bears)
    6. z Tremi Medvedi (with three bears)
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:22 No.4071381
    Oh. Now i see the difference.

    - Rusfag
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:23 No.4071394

    Wow, you people are crazy. In an awesome way. Am I correct in the assumption that multiple bears, starting with three, use the same case, or have you gone far enough to get the poor beasts different declinations for four, five, six, seven, etc?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:24 No.4071407
    Also, words have genders. Medved is a masculine word, so it gets the masculine shape of adjective. The adjective depends on the gender, the number of the noun and what you're using the noun for.

    Dva Medveda is different from Dve Medvedki (two female bears) in most of the 18 forms the pair of words can take.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:25 No.4071417
    Is that -ov suffix indicative of possession in last names too? Like Kuznetsov meaning he belongs to a specific region/tribe/whatever?
    I think the -ovich suffix is to describe someone's patrilineal heritage, right?
    >> Maus 03/24/09(Tue)13:26 No.4071430
    ... Holy fucking shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:28 No.4071453

    Alright, as a Germanfag, I can get behind that gender thing.
    But that extra case for two of a thing is unsettling.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:29 No.4071470
    Yes, we're sane after three.

    -ov is a generic suffix denoting belonging. It doesn't need to mean a group. If something has the adjective "medvedov", it means it belongs to bear.

    -ovich is generally considered a surname that belongs to more southern people, such as Croatians and Serbs. In Slovenia, we have the more western tradition of having surnames based on jobs, such as "John Smith" being "Janez Kovach". Also, a lot of the time it's not -ovich anymore, just -ich.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:44 No.4071639
    >-ovich is generally considered a surname that belongs to more southern people, such as Croatians and Serbs.

    Croatia here. We reject you and the other slavs. Especially serbs.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:48 No.4071686
    Hah, as Slovenians, our entire culture is based on the vague feeling of slight superiority we feel over everyone who lives south of us. Of course Croatians aren't as bad as Serbs, because while you're a bit south, you're not as south.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:51 No.4071729

    Europe...is awesome.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:54 No.4071760
    As a Russian speaker I find this interesting.
    >> Mask of Winters !!5tEp50WeGgS 03/24/09(Tue)13:55 No.4071769
    That's okay, guys. You just do that and we'll pretend our dads didn't bang yo mommas.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)13:56 No.4071781
    Language test of manliness! Slavturn!
    Translate these names please:

    Stonebeard Fiststone
    Fistbeard Beardaxe
    Beardfist Stonefist
    Stonebeard Beardstone
    Axefist Beardaxe
    Axebeard Beardstone
    Buff McManly
    Rock Hardcheese

    You can change the names if you see this act as necessary.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:00 No.4071824
    They were too busy stacking TVs on tractors and running.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:05 No.4071861
    Slovenian is actually very weak when it comes to composing new words. It really doesn't handle just sticking words together. As such, science fiction in particular, when written or translated into Slovenian, sounds laughable.

    But I'll try anyway.

    Stonebeard Fiststone - Pestkamna Kamenabrada
    Fistbeard Beardaxe - Pestbrade Bradatasekira
    Beardfist Stonefist - Bradatapest Kamenapest
    Stonebeard Beardstone - Kamenabrada Bradakamna
    Axefist Beardaxe - Sekirepest Bradatasekira
    Axebeard Beardstone - Sekirebrada Kamenabrada
    Buff McManly Nabiti Mozshakovich
    Rock Hardcheese Skala Trdisir.

    Mind you, you could reasonably use one of those two joint words, such as Stonebeard, by saying it as Kamenobradi, which makes it into an adjective meaning "he of the stone beard". Like calling somene Charles the Great, you'd be calling the dwarf Dorf The Stone-Bearded.
    >> Mask of Winters !!5tEp50WeGgS 03/24/09(Tue)14:06 No.4071862
    A bit of serbian:
    Kamenobradi Pesnicokamen
    Pesnicobradi Bradosekira
    Bradopesnica Kamenpesnica
    Kamenbrada Bradokamen
    Sekirpesnica Bradosekira
    Sekirobradi Bradokamen
    Krupni MekMuzhevni
    Kamen Tvrdosirni
    There can be some more variation but I don't feel like it.

    Not Slovenian but way too similar for me to make a new thread. Plus I don't feel like it.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:16 No.4071964
    Thanks a lot, guys. Slavdorfs sound good.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:18 No.4071971
    wow that chick is hot and i'd hit it. I'm no longer interested in the three dimensional world as i explained yesterday. carry on.
    >> Mask of Winters !!5tEp50WeGgS 03/24/09(Tue)14:19 No.4071982
    Just thought that "Kamen Tvrdosirni" might sound better as "Kamen Tvrdosir", which is also valid, and much more awesome-sounding. You're welcome.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:20 No.4071983
    Gromgora is a very dorfy name, to be perfectly honest.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:23 No.4072012
    The three words generally associated with storms are Grom, Blisk and Tresk.
    Grom being the sound of the thunder, Blisk being the flash of lightning and Tresk being the sound of lightning falling.

    A storm is a Nevihta, incidentially. An archaic term would be Huda Ura, or "Bad Hour".
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:24 No.4072015
    There was surely SOMETHING that your country did during WW2, was it ?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:25 No.4072025
    I AM SO S-M-R-T

    Also, accuratecommissar.jpeg.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:26 No.4072041
    Archived because this language thread manages to be worthwhile. More dwarf names and Slovenian grammar!
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:29 No.4072057
    >Grom being the sound of the thunder,

    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:30 No.4072066
    Thunder is "Grom" in all slavic languages
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:35 No.4072106
    Like I said, we got kicked over by the Nazis when we were still The Kingdom of Serbs, Croatians and Slovenes (actual name!) which had previously been known as the Republic of Slovenes, Croatians and Serbs. Half of Slovenia joined the partisans and killed Nazis for the proletariat, and half joined the Homeguard, were sworn in to serve Hitler on a soccer field and fought the partisans. Then the partisans won and we killed the fuck out of the Homeguard, Nazi christfags that they were.
    Now let's watch the various forms of the verb "to mine" (rudariti) (KEEP IN MIND THE J IS PRONOUNCED Y)

    Jaz rudarim (I mine)
    Ti rudarish (you mine)
    On/ona rudari (he/she mines)

    Midva/Midve rudariva (We two males/females mine)
    Vidva/vidve rudarita (You two males/females mine)
    Onadva/onidve rudarita (Those two males/females mine)

    Mi Rudarimo (We mine)
    Vi Rudarite (You mine plural)
    Oni/One Rudarijo (They mine)

    Groups including at least one male are considered to be male. Thus, a thousand women mining would be "one rudarijo", but if you add a single man to the group, it is treated as if it is a group of men and becomes oni rudarijo.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:38 No.4072125
    What are your words for Son and Daugter? And how can they be incorporated in the names?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:41 No.4072149
    A son is "sin" and a daughter is, oh god, I have no idea how I'm going to type this out, a daughter is "hcherkha".

    Typically, if you were going to include descent, you'd just use -ov and -ova depending on gender to denote "whose" the person in question is. I mean, you don't need to specify if Tanya is her father's daughter or son, most people can guess.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:43 No.4072172
    Can you maybe use the same motherfucking thread for this shit?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:44 No.4072176

    Wikipedia just claimed you have... 48 different dialects on a speaker base of 2,5 million or so...
    ... how come?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:50 No.4072234
    Also, words that /tg/ might be interested in have occured to me.

    For the Imperium (of Man) - Za Imperiy (Chloveshtva)!
    For the Greater Good - Za Vechye Dobro!
    Blood for the Blood God - Kree za Boga Krvee!
    Skulls for the Skull Throne - Lobanye za Prestol Lobany
    Love can Bloom - Lyubezen lahko Zoree
    Steel Rain - Yekleni Dezsch
    Holy Flame - Sveti Plamen
    Blasphemy - Bogokletye (lit. God-cursing)
    HERESY - Hereziya, Kriva Vera (lit. Bent Faith)
    Heretic - Krivoverec, a female heretic is a krivoverka
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)14:51 No.4072248
    Hilly country and most people didn't travel. If you traveled, chances were you had an education, and if you had an education, chances were you'd learned German and spoke German to other people.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:01 No.4072358

    I see, thanks.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:10 No.4072453
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    Over 9 minutes in Paint.
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:13 No.4072475
    Slovenian is not a language, don't believe the propaganda. It's a dialect of Russian - look, they don't even have a flag of their own./
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:18 No.4072533
    Yes they do. It's the Russian flag with their little seal on it.
    >> a Czechfag is in Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:25 No.4072622
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    let's see now:

    Smrt = Death (Mrtev = dead) (also, Death is traditionally considered to be female, because Morena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzanna) was female) - zomg it's the same!!! (no surprise, really)
    Kámen = Stone (duh)
    Železo = Iron
    Ocel = Steel
    Veliký = Great, huge
    Bolest = Pain
    Pařát = Claw
    Jed = Poison, toxic
    Prokletí = Curse
    Hrob = crypt, grave
    Hrobka = tomb
    Pohřebiště = Burial ground
    Hřbitov = Graveyard
    Rytíř = Knight
    Križák = Crusader (Kříž = Cross)
    Čaroděj = Wizard
    Mág = Mage/Magican
    Lovec = Hunter
    Duch = Ghost
    Rukojmí = Hostage
    Noc = Night
    Mrtvola = Corpse
    Hrom = Thunder
    Oheň = Fire (duh)
    Hora = Mountain
    Pevnost = Fortress
    Hrad = Castle
    Nemoc = Disease, illness etc.
    Nebe a Peklo = Heaven and Hell
    Čepel = Blade
    Meč = Sword
    Ďábel = The Devil
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:30 No.4072685
    You know, when we declared independence from Yugoslavia, I as a kid was dismayed at having to draw so complex a flag. I much prefered the Yugoslavian version with the red star in the center.
    >> posting in a Slavic languages thread Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:31 No.4072695
    Parte deux
    Eagle = Orel
    Falcon/Hawk = Sokol
    Bear = Medvěd
    Lion = Lev
    Wolf = Vlk
    Fox = Liška
    Cat = Kočka (kocour for male)
    Mouse = Myš
    Rat = Krysa
    Weasel = Sysel
    Rhino = Nosorožec (lit. nose-horn)
    Unicorn = Jednorožec (lit. one-horn)
    Faery = Víla
    Dragon = Drak
    Wyrm/Drake = What is the difference between these and Dragon again? We have a word "Saň", which is usually used to mean multi-headed dragon.
    Demon = Démon
    Devil (the) = Ďábel
    Devil (denizen of Hell) = Pekelník
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:31 No.4072697
    >I much prefered the Yugoslavian version with the red star in the center.
    >> 40k stuff Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:39 No.4072770
    For the Imperium (of Man) - Za Impérium (Lidstva)!
    For the Greater Good - Za Větší Dobro! (sentence sounds at least 50% more gay in Czech than in English)
    Blood for the Blood God - Krev pro boha krve!
    Skulls for the Skull Throne - Lebky pro trůn (z) lebek
    Love can Bloom - Láska může kvést
    METAL BOXES - ŽELEZNÉ KRABICE!!! (the last E pronounced long if raging)
    Steel Rain - Ocelobý Déšť
    Holy Flame - Svatý Plamen
    Blasphemy - Rouhání
    HERESY - Rouhačství
    Heretic - Heretik / Rouhač
    >> Czech dwarfnames Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:45 No.4072852
    There's a bunch of possible translations
    Stonebeard Fiststone - Kamenobrad Pěstokámen
    Fistbeard Beardaxe - Pěsťobrad Bradosekera
    Beardfist Stonefist - Bradopěst Kamenopěst
    Stonebeard Beardstone - Kamenobrad Bradokámen
    Axefist Beardaxe - Sekeropěst Bradosekera
    Axebeard Beardstone - Sekerobrad Bradokámen
    Buff McManly - Silák McMužný (Mc has no equivalent in Czech and does not appear in Czech names)
    Rock Hardcheese - Kámen Tvrdosýr
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:50 No.4072922
    How else can a five year old draw a pentagram in red crayon without arousing suspicion?
    >> Anonymous 03/24/09(Tue)15:57 No.4073020
    Fuck, made a mistake during the C&P
    Crypt = Krypta (definitely not hrob)

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