>>4061081
Now why would someone put all that firepower on the right side of the armor? Wouldn't it sag to the right or something?
Wouldn't want to see that thing fire all its weapons at once, it'd be embarrassing.

>>4061107
Forgive the picture, it was the only one I had that had both rockets and a gun that looked like a flamer on one arm.

And I'm not sure how much recoil a flamethrower would actually produce, given it fires for bursts of one or two seconds at a time.

>>4061115
Whatever, I was just nitpicking because I like being anal about things like this
even if I'm not sure I know what Im talking about

I'm not very familiar with the original Mekton Zeta. However, I did go through the document you linked - it seems to be a simple, yet solid, system from the basic look of things. Thus, I like it quite a bit; my only concern is that it is a wargame only system which is somewhat limiting.
Anyway, playtesting it at this point may be beneficial.

Looks interesting

>>4061200
That's basically the idea.

It's a way of handling mass combat in the game if you just want to rip and tear with some mass-produced grunts, or just an alternative wargame for people who don't like Battletech's or DP9's way of doing things.

I'm now entering the playtest phase - the first game went really quite well (some bad play on my part meant I had a chainsaw-armed melee mech ripping my battle armour into pieces), and in a couple of weeks I'll be back at university where my gaming club and FLGS will provide testers.

I'm providing these rules so other people who can provide a critical eye can test them too.

And also have some pleasing images.

>>4061317
DEAR GOD THAT IS A BAD IMAGE, HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

>>4061317
The real problem playtesting it here is hex-based combat. It's hard to pull it off on irc or the internet in general. Anyway, many thanks for the system; hope to see those converted unit cards in the future.

>>4061343
Maptool supports hexes - it's what I use for online Mekton. You can upload Battletech mapsheets and use them.

Or, get some fa/tg/uys you know in person, print out the rules and do what you can. I'll do "light" unit cards with no artwork in a pack so people can get some playtests on.

I've found .txt. files are great for this, especially with a "tabbed" version of Notepad like Notepad++

>>4061359
Fair enough. Maybe someone with more experience in Maptool will decide to run a game in the future (although, I did make some pretty bad-ass tokens for it once).

OP reporting in again, I've started out on a series of "lite" unit cards which are just modifiable .txt files with boxes and stats like this:

Northwood V-A Archer

Move: 5
Mass: 33 tons
Piloting Modifier: -3
Combat Modifier: -3
Points Cost: 96

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 12
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 12
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 12
Damage Boxes (L) [W] (R) [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 12
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) 60mm Field Gun
Range: 14
Damage: 6
Blast (1)

(Right Arm) 55mm Minelet Artillery
Range: 12
Damage: 2
Blast (1), Minelet (Strength 2)

(Right Arm) Rocket Artillery
Range: 11
Damage: 10
Limited Shots (2)

EQUIPMENT:

Basic Sensors
Signal Analyser

This and the prototype in the OP should give you an idea of what a stat card looks like, so if you want to have a go at making your own units just use Mekton rules for the hull and weapons (all the keywords are mostly just namechanges of Mekton ones, save for Minelet which is custom)

I'm grabbing food and TV now, and will be back in some hours if this thread is still up to post more stat cards.

Have fun!

Forgot my zogging picture.

Have another unit option, this time with melee weapons.

Northwood IV-M Gladiator

Move: 5
Mass: 32 tons
Piloting Modifier: -2
Combat Modifier: -2
Points Cost: 96

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] [ ] [W] (R) [W] [ ] [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Weapon Mounts (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] (R) [W]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) Crush Hammer
Range: Melee
Damage: 16
Accuracy: +1

(Right Arm) Assault Saw
Range: Melee
Damage: 3
Follow-Up, Armour Piercing

EQUIPMENT:

Basic Sensors
Signal Analyser

>>4062888
And another (converting these is dead easy)

Northwood VI-F Hurricane

Move: 5
Mass: 31 tons
Piloting Modifier: -3
Combat Modifier: -3
Points Cost: 121

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] [ ] [ ] [W] (R) [W] [ ] [ ] [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Weapon Mounts (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] (R) [W]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) 70mm Rocket Pod
Range: 10
Damage: 2
Accuracy: +1
Limited Shots (10)

(Right Arm) Twin Flak Cannons
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Tracer, Multiple Hit (2)

MULTIPLE HIT:
If the unit hits with its initial attack from this weapon,
its target is hit by a secondary attack. No roll is needed
for this, and it will hit the same location.

EQUIPMENT:

Basic Sensors
Signal Analyser

>>4062930
A couple more and there should be enough for some basic playtests.

Northwood IV-C King Peregrine
Move: 6
Mass: 35 tons
Piloting Modifier: -1
Combat Modifier: -1
Points Cost: 157

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] [ ] [W] (R) [W] [ ] [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Weapon Mounts (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] (R) [W]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) Rotary Autocannon
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Burst (3)
Tracer, Cluster OR Armour Piercing, Kinetic

(Right Arm) Panzerfaust (Missile)
Range: 11
Damage: 10
Limited Shots (5)

(Right Arm) Twin Flak Cannons
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Tracer, Armour Piercing, Multiple Hit (2)

MULTIPLE HIT:
If the unit hits with its initial attack from this weapon, its target is hit by a secondary attack. No roll is needed for this, and it will hit the same location.

EQUIPMENT:
Advanced Sensors
Signal Analyser
Sensor Jamming (2)/Missile Jamming (2)
Electronic Warfare Defence (2)
Area Countermeasures (3)

AREA COUNTERMEASURES:
Any unit within the specified number of hexes of the unit with Area Countermeasures gains their benefits.

>>4063016
One last unit for the moment - six different units is a good number for a "starter box," especially when they offer a variety of special rules.

Northwood VI-C Aeolus
Move: 5
Mass: 37 tons
Piloting Modifier: -3
Combat Modifier: -3
Points Cost: 99

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] [ ] [ ] [W] (R) [W] [ ] [ ] [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Weapon Mounts (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 2
Total Armour 6
Damage Boxes (L) [W] (R) [W]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) Particle Cannon
Range: 7
Damage: 3
Accuracy: +1
Burst (4)

(Right Arm) Autocannon
Range: 7
Damage: 5
Kinetic, Armour Piercing

(Right Arm) Battle Claw
Range: Melee
Damage: 6
Entangling

(Right Arm) Pile Bunker
Range: Melee
Damage: 3
Follow-Up, Chain Attack

CHAIN ATTACK:
If this unit hits with its Battle Claw attack and entangles the target, it may immediately make a secondary attack using the Pile Bunker, which will automatically hit the same location in the same way as a Multiple Hits weapon. The target may attempt to escape before this secondary attack is resolved.

EQUIPMENT:
Basic Sensors
Signal Analyser

bump

Suddenly, mechs, thousands of them

>>4063534
is there a way to make a SHINING GUNDAM with a Ki Amplifier, Chain Attack, Super Mode, Palm Attack and direct mech control?

>>4063961
There is in the core RPG rules, but not in this system.

This is more of a "stompy robots with loads of guns" thing.

>>4064079
Not my mech system then, if I wanted Battletech I'd play it

>>4064147
Also "fixing" Metocon by making Btech light is dumb

>>4064147
Fair enough - this is meant to be a system for people who want faster games of a Front Mission or Armored Core style - still eminently "real robot" but with less complex rules than Battletech (so no heat management or anything.)

Each to their own.

>>4061081
OP, I love you.
>>4064147
Sometimes I do want Battletech, but sometimes this will work just fine.

>>4064172
The thing is, you need a "Btech lite" for campaigns that fit in the awkward gap between Heavy Gear's power armour and Battletech's 35-100-ton mechs.

Your Wanzers/Armored Cores/Mobile Suits.

A bump

>>4064401
Most MS are Super robots, but this would be a nice AC/Xambungle style medium robots system, for MS its odd since MS are pretty fast but some have odd weapons like bits or funnels or TRANS AMS

>>4064739
I was thinking mostly One Year War stuff, where cannons/lasers are the predominant ranged weapons.

Although I had great success in a campaign with a starship which used funnels as a point defence system.

Anything that closed in got hit by upwards of 64 remote controlled drones firing rapid-fire laser cannons.

But you're right, this is more Xabungle/Dougram/Front Mission style.

The next priority is writing rules for aircraft, to my mind. Making more mech sheets is time-consuming more than hard, but aircraft will need different rules.

I'm thinking they'll work like normal units, but there will be new "keywords" associated with them like "anti-air" and "air to surface" which counteract vertical range penalties.

Aircraft in the "stock setting" will be high-tech Ace Combat style ones, armed with nasty missile launchers and energy weapons alongside machine guns and cannons.

You could quite easily rework these rules into a Gundam wargame if you wanted, though. Funnels would be a low-damage weapon with a high Accuracy and Armour Piercing/Multiple Hits (6) or something - expensive, but deadly.

>>4061081
Kudos.

Have a new unit to celebrate the new day.

Northwood V-S Defender
Move: 5
Mass: 31 tons
Piloting Modifier: -3
Combat Modifier: -3
Points Cost: 129

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 16
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 16
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 16
Damage Boxes (L) [W] (R) [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 16
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) Flamethrower
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Incendiary, Cluster

(Left Arm) Light Autocannon
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Tracer, Kinetic

(Right Arm) Flamethrower
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Incendiary, Cluster

(Right Arm) Light Autocannon
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Tracer, Kinetic

EQUIPMENT:
Basic Sensors
Signal Analyser

And now something totally ridiculous...

Gereon BXV2-U Ironman

Move: 4
Mass: 46 tons
Piloting Modifier: -4
Combat Modifier: -0
Points Cost: 885

LOCATIONS:

Head [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 24
Damage Boxes [S] [ ] [S]

Torso [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 24
Damage Boxes: [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arms (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 24
Damage Boxes (L) [W] [ ] [W] (R) [W] [ ] [W]

Legs (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] (R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
Armour Grade 4
Total Armour 24
Damage Boxes: (L) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]
(R) [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

WEAPONS:

(Left Arm) Howitzer
Range: 4
Damage: 20
Accuracy: -2
Incendiary, Blast (2), Cluster, Kinetic

(Left Arm) Twin Flamers
Range: 6
Damage: 4
Incendiary, Cluster, Multiple Hits (2)

(Right Arm) Wrecking Ball
Range: Melee
Damage: 20

(Right Arm) Twin Field Guns
Range: 5
Damage: 12
Armour Piercing, Blast (2), Cluster

EQUIPMENT:

Advanced Sensors
Resolution Intensifiers (4)
Magnetic Resonance Lens/Gravity Lens
Signal Analyser