So /tg/ my DM is notorious for making up the strangest and encounters, but I think this time he has really done it.Our party consists of a Rogue, Knight, Samurai, Warlock and Cleric, our campaign is based around climbing this giant tower that harbors evil spirits and curses the land and people nearby. Each floor sort of transports us to a place in history where something significant happens, and after we deal with it, we advance to the next floor. My DM loves history, and he uses historical figures in his campaigns... The first "boss" encounter we had during this campaign was Emperor Nero... the whole damn time we fought nero, he played his harp as Rome burned to the ground. The DM put on some harp music, we assumed it didn't mean anything and went on to kill his guards. Near the end of the song, it reached its climax and he told us to make a will save. As it finished, Nero shot a level 8 empowered/maximized Fireball at the party, nearly killing us... and since then we have been afraid of people who appear not to be in combat. I mention this now, because of the encounter I'm going to have tonight.Our session ended right before the battle would have started. The DM told us he stopped at that point so he could "let us think about this encounter". The room we are in is some grand auditorium. And there appears to be a friggin Orchestra in the middle, and not just a couple of people, like a huge group of people (maybe 80+) playing various instruments. He described the conducter, then showed us this picture of what he looked like./tg/ my DM is making me fight Ludwig van Beethoven. What should I expect him to do? How should the group deal with this encounter?TL;DR How I kill Beethoven?
>>3630679Polymorph a bard into Amadeus Mozart and show him up with a massive concert of your own via illusion magic?
Run away then sneak up on him, he is deaf as shit. Also Nero didn't burn down Rome like most people believe.
>>3630693Our characters failed the knowledge history check so they have no idea who this guy is.
Head straight for him, obviously. Also, cast Silence. All problems solved.
>>3630706Wait, Beethoven is a historical figure in your campaign?
>>3630734yeah but beethovan is the conducter. I don't know if he is going to cast spells through the orchestra or cast them himself.
If they can't cast silence then they should just make as much noise as possible and disrupt the music.
Use his mentor, Joseph Haydn to confuse him.Prey on his beginning deafness.Use dishamonic arhythmia to meet his symmetric counterpoint.And for god's sake don't mention solenm joy and things like that, it's his power base.
If he's deaf and in the middle of conducting the orchestra, that would be when to strike.Since he's deaf, I assume he's going to have some sort of bullshit ninja-esque sixth sense to compensate for it, so figure out attacks and spells that he can't feel the vibrations of.
>>3630748Either way, removing Beethoven solves the problem.
Have everyone clap out of time.
Awsome DM.Also, I'm reminded of the suicide-inducing music from Read or Die. Just put some corks in your ears, or try to disrupt the orchestra by taking out a significant portion of the players.
>>3630679Run. Ludvig Van was motherfucking hardcore. He directed like he was possessed by the devil.
PROTIP: Nero did not play anything as Rome burned, not a harp, nor a fiddle (which hadn't been invented yet anyway)
>>3630764I don't think he has noticed us yet, and it looked like he was beginning...Is there a particular song I should be afraid of that has constant high notes and fast pacing?
The Japanese already figured out a way.
>>3630827what is this from?
Sing anti-phase to their music and cancel it out. Problem solved!
>>3630780Or just snipe Beethoven.
>>3630786Or maybe he _IS_ the Devil. Who said he was gone?
>>3630818Damn. Now I suppose you're going to tell him that Magic has never truly been used in combat before either.Whether Nero played a harp, a fiddle, with his penis, or not at all, I think that was hugely creative of the DM.
Your first order of business is finding out if this is real Beethoven, or an alternate Beethoven that accepted Mephistopheles' deal for immortality. If it's the latter, you're fucked.
if he plays Moonlight Sonata, just run in there and try to kill him as soon as possible... Don't let him play anything else.
>>3630679There are several possibilities.1.He takes control of one or more party members and “directs them”.2.The DM makes you fight 9 bosses themed to the symphonies.3.He fights you head on while the orchestra uses various sonic attacks that don't affect him since he is deaf.4.???5.Profit!
Steal his stick. It's a wand.
>>3630888Oh.. god is that from the Transiberean Orchestra? Wow... That'd be pretty badass of the DM. Of course the OP would be dead along with his party and his entire family, but badass regardless.
>>3630941I thought about the symphonies... and I know that one of them was dedicated to Napoleon Bonaparte.. I don't want to have to fight him too. I'm hoping he just casts sonic spells at different periods of the song, but my DM loves Beethoven so I'm expecting the worst.>>3630955Beethoven often conducted with his hands alot, I don't think taking his baton will slow him down.
Just give up, you'll never win. Even if you kill Ludwig, you'll never get past me. I invented the internet.
HE IS ONE OF MY CHOSEN.THERE IS JACKSHIT YOU CAN DO
>>3631063A challenger appears....
>>3631063Leave that composer to me. Twain, step out of the way.
>>3630825Morzart's Requiem Run if he starts conducting it.
>>3631063Fear of hair.Fear of round objects.Fear of bodily contact.Fear of germs.Obsession with number 3.Likes to stand around dangerous machinery.Build three round chaff guns, load them with hair and metal wires, fire at Tesla, close in and grapple.
>>3631011The baton is still a fucking wand. Better be safe.
So Beethoven is done for. Who's next? Sigmund Freud, Henry Ford, Karl Marx? I bet your DM cannot resist and you will of course meet Adolf Hitler at one point or another.
>>3631083Pic related.
>>3631191>Sigmund Freudhttp://rs42.rapidshare.com/files/31183095/the_new_adventures_of_sigmund_freud.zipYou are all fucked
>>3630679Beethoven is my favorite composer and if you go back in time and kill him I will be very sad. I just want you to know.
Fuck, your DM is awesome.I think its safe to assume that, since Beethovan is deaf, the orchestra will be casting immensely powerful sonic spells at certain points, which beethovan is immune to. Some way to silence or distract the orchestra should be a priority.Second, I can pretty much guarentee that his baton is more then it appears. Disarm him of it. Even if it is just a baton, you now have the Baton of Beethovan. How fucking awesome is that?Thirdly, find some way to get to beethovan and do him in without being noticed. He's deaf, and he'll obviously be distracted. Invisibility / amazing hide checks are your friends.What level is this at?
>>3630693What you wrote:>Amadeus MozartWhat I read:>Asmodeus MozartWhat I thought:FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUCKYEAH
If one harp is a level maximized/empowered Fireball, an entire orchestra is going to incinerate you.If the music starts building to a climax of any sort before you've killed the conductor, run like hell.
>>3631266I am suddenly overcome by the desire to play a tiefling bard.
My first thought was R.O.D.Does your DM like anime? If so, you're fucked.
Expect him to enrage occasionally, likely accompanied by a silence or antimagic zone effect as Beethoven's fits of rage have been theorized to be a side-effect of the same condition that caused his deafness, likely lead poisoning.
You are fucked if this guy becomes your next BBEG.
>>3631293>If the music starts building to a climax of any sort before you've killed the conductor, run like hell.>conductorWhat, now the orchestra is on a TRAIN? This is getting more awesome by every post
He's going to play the ninth. Sonic damage and will saves.If I were you, I'd lose on purpose.
>>3631350Buses and orchestras also have conductors.
>>3631350I hate you.
I'd imagine the battle to be like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq84WO_zubQTimes 100.Fuck your DM should do Exalted next.
Pray he doesn't play the Fifth, aka the Fate symphony.
Coat an arrowhead with lead and shoot him in the gut.
>Music>Magic>OH FUCK BULLETS EVERYWHERE WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN BLARAGHGBLESucks to be you.
Try to kill him REALLY fast, if your first attempt is unsuccessful.run
>>3631473FUCK YOU MERUPO!ξ・∀・）
>>3631473Also music based magic is awesome.
...ROCKOUT!
>>3631402I'd play it
I have a great idea! Cast Remove Deafness on him! That's gotta fuck him up for some reason!maybe he'll become vulnerable to the orchestra's attacks, or maybe he'll hear that they aren't playing perfectly, and freak out at them,
>>3631603THIS
>>3631603Maybe it will increase his power considerably.
1812 overture / artillery bombardment?massed sonic attacks?Summoning swarms of poisonous bees?
>>3631603Oh wow. That might be a really good idea. If he loses his immunity to sonic damage at the climax of a song, that might just kill him.
1. demand a rock-off2. bring the thunder3. ???4. profit!I'll get you, Tenacious Deeeeeeeee!
>>3631345I don't even know who the BBEG is. I wish he would just tell us already, he has given us clues to who it might be, but nothing useful.
Pray he doesn't put you up against Andrew Jackson.
You know what OP, you have an awesome DM.
>>3631682Oh god, I was just thinking about that too. I was thinking it might be Andrew Jackson, King Solomon, Vlad the Impaler or Alexander the Great. But he is probably going to come up with someone I haven't even heard of.
>>3631718I was skeptical of the campaign at first, but goddamn its been the best one I've played in so far.
Teddy Roosevelt will fuck your shit up.Remove Deafness sounds like the best plan.
>>3631720You'll get Rasputin. Good luck killing him.
>>3631643FUCKFUCKFUCKKKKKKTHE DEMON CODE PREVENTS MEFROM DECLINING A ROCK-OFF CHALLENGESO, WHAT ARE YOUR TERMS?
>>3631749Immune to Poison, Piercing, Cold, and Fire?
>>3631603so, Remove Deafness will eithera) screw him up, leading to your vitoryb) Make him considerable more powerful, leading to your spectacular and inevetable defeatEither option would be fine with me, really. Do it.
Use Bruce Willis on him. "Ode to Joy" made him awesome in Die Hard.
Wait for him to play his 9 symphonies. Survive those and you're set, as he'll die at the end of #9 anyway. Or throw a throwing knife at him from behind, he won't hear or see it coming.
>>3631771>throw a throwing knife at him from behind, he won't hear
>>3631771He has his whole fucking Orchestra with him.Enjoy being impaled by that knife being repelled by the shear force of his music.
>>3631771Thats hours worth of music, they couldn't survive. And I'm pretty sure he would play the 10th symphony he was working on at the time of his death, and kill everything.
>>3630679I believe it's time for a bit of the old ultra violence, my droog.
>>3631813>>3631771For Extreme epicness, once you kill off his orchestra he goes onto his Piano doing his solos.
>>3630679 Your DM is awesome and I wish to play in your campaign.
>>3631749I've got a pair of needle nose pliers and a wire clipper. I'll handle rasputin.
OP Here, I'm going out, then going to roll some dice. I'll make another thread later describing the fight with Beethoven. Thanks for the ideas guys.
>>3631899Good luck, you screwed bastard.
Anyone consider that Beethoven might be nice?
>>3631915He's too bitter and grumpy from going through a shitty life to be nice.
>>3631915>beethovan>nicewatLearn your music history, bro, Beethovan was an angry, angry man.
>>3631915This is clearly a boss fight, though; this set-up SCREAMS it. Besides, Beethoven was an angry, crass motherfucker anyway."You DARE interrupt MY orchestra?! I have a special little piece reserved for fools like you!"
>>3631972Oh yeah.
>>3632036This is an accurate depiction of Beethoven's eyes at any given time.
>>3632036Why? Why do I find this stupid excuse for a meme funny?
>>3632046Memes are not supposed to be funny, they are supposed to be spam.
>>3632036I lol'd far harder then I should have.
Being deaf, he probably had tremorsense. Cast fly.He's old, cast magical aging spells on him or Rays of Enfeeblement and he should drop fairly quickly.If high enough level, try to Gate or Miracle in:A DevilFate IncarnateA spirit of good to combat the devil-blessed immortal Beethoven
There are worse foes to defeat.
>>3630679Awesome campaign is awesome. :D
random dmfag here. if i were in that dm's shoes here's what i would do1beethovan (abreviated to b from this point forward) will be conducting his 9 symphonies. his first is just music, for enjoyment. the second would be a dispel symphony (no magic can be cast during the 5 turn durration) the third, fourth and fifth would be AoE ongoing dammage spells (with varying elements) sixth would be healing, seventh would be like three, four and five, and eight would be an enfebling effect. nine would be the turning point in the battle. it would be the longest ( all others would be five turns in length, this one would be ten) and the effect would be like>>3630941 suggested. it is longer because it is the last chance to defeat him. the tenth would be a shitstorm of wtfhax attacks that would kill in 1-3 turns.so my suggestion would be cast silence ove the orchestra and beat the shit out of b
And we played the first thing that came too our heads. Just so happened to be The Best Song In The World. It was The Best Song In The World.Look into my eyes it's easy to see. One and one makes two, two and one makes three. It was destiny.Once every hundred thousand years or so, when the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow and the grass doth grow...
Are you angels? Nay! We are but men.
OP, you said your DM was a tricksy hobbit, maybe Ludwig isn't supposed to be killed, wait for the intermission (or make one) and talk to him.Also, 'Silence' as above.
