My boy's all grown up and raping people now!

*Sniffle* I...I'm so proud!

The only thing we've seen Ace fuck up was that one z hatch.

>>3395228
Shut the fuck up.

>>3395246
He's got a point. We haven't seen Ace really fuck anyone's shit up yet. For all we know, he could be a non-up-fuck-shitter.

Ace is good/neutral; or at least he probably sees himself as good/neutral. It's still highly likely that he works for bad people/abominations, mind.

Remember; Ace only armed himself with that grappleweapon AFTER we had Tom jam his leg full of crowbar.

Time for some Epileptic Trees.

Ruby is Ace.

>>3395270
>non-up-fuck-shitter

Why did I lol so much.

As much as I am a fan of Ace, and he is my favorite character, I'm afraid his part is mostly done now. When we encounter him again, seriously wounded as he is we will either finish him off, or even if we can befriend him I think Weaver will have him die from his wounds rather than have us gaining such a powerful ally.

>>3395353
We should follow his blood trail.

>>3395353
'tis only a flesh wound!

two quick points.

last session, there was a thing that neither ruby nor tom was CRAFTY enough to open. And in the Poem, there's the final line: the flock that cannot work together/is sure still trapped in hell.

I think we need to find a way to work with any of the other survivors, and red too if he turns up again. Not to the point of risking dismemberment, obviously, but let's try not to wrack up any more fatalities if we can avoid it.

If we could get ace on our side, could he clear out the rubble blocking the rooms red blew up?

I'm not sure how many of these discussion threads we can have before they just repeat themselves.

That said, I like to think Red's not "NEVER CATCH ME" etc was for Ruby and Tom, not Ace. It was the only thing on the wall that he knew they'd see when they came in, and he had a pre-existing negative relationship with Ruby.

>>3395438

The other walls already had shit on them, and there was a note to Ace in the room which read 'TRY TO CATCH ME NOW!'

Then why the bomb signed out specifically for Ace, he clearly meant for Ace to go boom along with his body

>>3395402
Right, right. So if he's hostile he'll still be a problem, but since he's past STAGE ONE of NOT being harpooned through the fucking chest he'll be more manageable than before, and perhaps defeatable. But Since he got a harpoon through his chest, even if he'd be fine as our enemy, if we befriend him Weaver will just take him away from us because he bled to death or something.
Ace tried to revive Ruby after she was stuffed in the box according to the reports, and put her in the coffin we started in instead of MURDERING HER. He probably isn't going to kill Ruby.
But he did take Tom's eye, the second time, and ignored Tom as he went to grab Ruby. The only other person we can guess he was after with this dedication was Red.
What the fuck is Ace up to? Ruby seems to be priority #1 to him, and his mission isn't to kill her, or really anyone else, but if you get in his way...

I think we can all agree that Red's 'whispers' that inspired the treatment came from something sanity-eroding, possibly with too many tentacles.

>>3395434
If we get Ace on our side we fucking win the game. Honestly, he got blown up, stabbed, impaled, and he just keeps going. He was tearing apart a wall that was in his way. Remember Tom crowbaring the wooden door? We get Ace we just keep tearing open doors and acending, it's just that easy,
but that's exactly why we'll never get him on our side, and why he'll likely have to die as a villian instead of a hero.

Joking, but it needs to be said:
First action next time should be :
>Shapeshift into horrible monster, kill tom.

Perhaps 'Tom's eye' was really 'Tom's Mutating, soon-to-be-mouth-core-for-bellsprout-monster eye'. Taking it from him MIGHT have been a favour to keep him from becoming like the Hound, however horrible it must have seemed to Tom at the time.

>>3395527
Plus Ace on our side would make Tom a great deal less useful, in a mechanical, metagaming sense.

Tom is just a walking MANLY PHYSIQUE.

>>3395434
I'm calling it right now that the CRAFTY character is a fucking raccoon named Nook

>>3395544

Ace seems much less comforting to hug.

>>3395543
I hope so. I really do want Ace to be a good guy, or atleast an enduring character to the end of the story. He's fucking badass.
>>3395544
And if the above is true and he's already on our side then he'll probably have to remain as the omnious, threatening and silent presence as he is to prevent exactly this:>>3395527
>>3395534
My best guess is that their encounter next session is going to inturupted by Ace's return, before or after Ruby and Tom and resolve things between them after what they just saw. Or that's what I want to see atleast.

If we hadn't jammed the crowbar into Ace's leg, I think he would have been more amenable to the idea of helping out Ruby and Tom. As it stands, he is chasing them with a grappling hook polearm. Considering that in he was weaponless in the video logs, he cobbled together that weapon just to deal with Ruby and Tom. This comforts me in an odd sort of way; his use of a weapon suggests that Ruby and Tom are more dangerous than Red and the mysterious patient that only Ace could deal with.

If Ace is following orders, his orders are now to kill, not detain. If he is on his own, I believe he now considers Ruby and Tom too great a threat to the scientific facility. It wasn't until after Ruby contacted Stitches that the dark chasm appeared.

tl;dr Ace is out to kill Ruby and Tom before they make an even bigger mess of things.

>>3395585
I'm calling it right now that the man in the monitors is Doctor Dick

>>3395626
Actually, it wasn't until Ruby looked into Tom's screwy eye and hallucinated/saw his four-armed crazy self that the broken physics room split.

Anyone think that maybe Tom's stomach cramps and vomiting of blood wasn't caused by arsenic poisoning? Sure the fish may have been poisons, but think about it, these characters don't eat, drink or sleep, have been through constant hell and have only blacked out due to mental instability/excruciating pain.

When Ruby's third eye took a while to appear, she was in pain, there was blood and she has a headache from it.

I think Tom's stomach cramps where his extra arms beginning to form, the blood he vomits is from his insides rearranging. He doesn't tell Ruby what is happening because of the same reason Ruby doesn't tell Tom about her eye. He smiles weakly at Ruby when she does her pirate expression not because he is thankful for her caring, but but rather out of nervousness.

>>3395543
Holy shit, you might be right! Preventing Tom from becoming Bellsprout 2 would be the logical thing for Ace to do.

>>3395481
>He probably isn't going to kill Ruby.
Unless his motives/orders changed.

>>3395633

Everyone speculates that Ruby has psychic/special powers... but does anyone else think Tom ALSO has powers, which he either hasn't told us about or hasn't discovered yet?

>>3395656
Well, the weak smile could be both.

Poor Tom is a bit more obviously fucked up than Ruby, physically.

Mentally....

>>3395626
Also, Ace only 'appeared' after Red broke the moniters, which alledgedly Ace had been using to spy on everyone. But what was he doing before that, anyway? The biggest questions are why did he put Tom in the room he was in after being poisened, and why was he the one to put Ruby into the coffin she started in? He could have killed them both, easily, but whats the point in just...
The weapon is a bad sign, yes, but that might not been it's purpose, he probably could end them both without it anyway. So far he's only worked to perserve Ruby and Tom, and we know he gave chase to Red who Ace was only trying to "catch", but if his purpose was more of a jailwarden, then why didn't he just stand blocking the doorway after 'we' woke up?
He has a bigger part to play in this.

I hope we get Red back somehow, but we probably won't. I'm still curious just how strong the heal-boxes are and if we could regenerate Red from his hand.

Remember that locked cabinet that Tom was not CRAFTY enough to pick the lock on? Seems to me we'll need a CRAFTY character. Now, we could meet a new character for this or we could get Red back, he's certainly crafty enough to fit the bill.

I think it would be pretty cool if for one session we cut away from Ruby and Tom and followed Stiches or Ace. A change of perspective could make things very interesting in my opinion.

I, for one, wonder how often Weaver posts in discussion threads under a guise of anonymous.

>>3395493
>I think we can all agree that Red's 'whispers' that inspired the treatment came from something sanity-eroding, possibly with too many tentacles.
Red heard whispers before the treatment he championed was authorized, right?
But perhaps the reason he's so adamant on starting everyone else on that medicine is because he had already been taking it himself?

A question: is the room in this video the same Z-hatch leads to? As I understand, there's only one entrance, Z-hatch, and last time Ace couldn't fit through it, so he was ripping it apart. So how did he end up there in this video?

>>3395742
There was probably, at one time, another entrance.
We all know that general area has been severely fucked up beyond the realm of physical possibility anyway.

I wonder why Red didn't just explain what was going on.

>>3395742

Hidden door maybe?

Or maybe it's in a different part of the facility. We don't know exactly how big this whole place is, and it wouldn't be odd for several rooms to be built alike.

>>3395742
I think we've seen at least two and possibly more hidden doors thus far.

>>3395742
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFffffff
uck
Why do you have to do this man?

>>3395735
Probably every damn day.
Fucking Metal Glen.

>>3395754
Regeneration Coffins seem to fuck up memory pretty well. Likely he didn't know much.

>>3395742

Perhaps the closet in that room hasn't been a closet for all that long.

The flock that could not work together.

That dude ain't Ace, he's a mutated plague doctor, but he ain't Ace.

There are more of the plague doctors, hopefully some of them are "good".

Well, now that Tom knows Ruby's a lost cause what with her rejection and murder, he'll probably go chasing some other girl.

When RubyQuest continues, remember to point out Ruby using her left hand to fight the bellsprout but using the right hand to scalpell Tom in the video, obviously something isn't as it seems.

Reds sad look after he got hooked...

I think there's a bizarre love triangle between Ruby, Tom and Red.

o/~ Everytime I see you falling - I get down on my knees and pray o/~

>>3395834
>using the right hand to scalpell Tom in the video
Fucking WRONG.

MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST LAY OFF THE HUGS FOR A WHILE

>>3395754
Unreliable Witness?

>>3395651
Woops, my bad.

>>3395703
Before sitting down to spy on everyone, I think he was detaining the Abominations. This could explain why Bear was locked in a closet, and Bellsprout was locked in the dummy's room. It would also explain why Bear was a LIQUEFIED MESS; Ace had to fuck his shit up before he became manageable. Therefore, it is logical to assume that, after Tom and Ruby broke out of their detainment, Ace had to step in to detain them once more because they have the potential to mutate.

Like Hound, Tom's fucked up eye could have disgorged another Bellsprout, as >>3395543 suggested; therefore, Ace gouged out Tom's infected/possibly mutating eye, and detained Tom for observation.

From this we can extrapolate that Hound also complained of excruciating pain in the eye, but Red did not take action/allowed the infection to grow, thus leading to Bellsprout. This would explain the medical diagram of the eye we saw in one of the rooms; either Red or Ace was studying it for Hound's sake.

>>3395834
She might be ambidextrous, or her slashing arm is the left one, while her stabbing arm is the right one.
Unlikely, I know.

>>3395879
Of course, the eye studies could have been part of curing Ruby's initial blindness issue.

>>3395841
Well I'll be damned, she DID use her left hand.

>>3395828

Weaver has revealed that there is only one giant bird, and his name is ace.

Ace is love

Ace is lov­e

>>3395841
>>3395906

So next Ruby Quest thread:

Ruby: am I LEFT HANDED or RIGHT HANDED?
Tom: DON"T KILL Ruby

Anyone else feel sorta sorry for the hound? I mean, he was a cute fellow, and all small and childlike in the 'family photo' dealie. When he was dying, the still 'human', i.e. natural, parts of him looked so pained and sad.

Ace is ­lov­e

Ac­e is ­l­ov­e

>>3395856
I think the potential for inadvertently hurting Tom is too great. We need to keep our distance, just for the time being.
If we find a way out, we won't try escaping without him of course.

>>3395967
Death was a release compared to an existence such as that.
Could you imagine trying to get laid looking like that?
"Hey baby, how's it going? Don't mind the eye mouth it's... Hey, where are you going?! WE COULD STILL BE FRIENDS! WHORE!"

>>3395991
I think there's also a great potential for healing if they work together.

Sexual healing.

>>3396018
Ruby looks like an underage schoolgirl. With freckles.

>>3396015
But he could obviously look normal sometimes. He looked at ruby through the broken mirror for a bit before changing.

Considering that the most realistic action for Ruby to do next time is to run away crying, what do you think would happen if she tried to get Ace to lock her up again? Can he recognize surrender? If he did "kill" her, wouldn't he just bring her back to life again?

Hmm. How old is the Metal Glen? We assume this is all the first time through, but with resurrections and amnesia and -something- that can apparently clean up anything, what if it's all been going on for much longer? An endless cycle of wake up, try to escape, find clues, somehow die, get brought back? In this case, we are talking not of survivors, but prisoners - and Ace as the eternal, vigilant guardian, trying to keep it all contained for what is, in the end, the good of the whole world. Being cooped up together - they'd all go crazy, eventually.

He doesn't speak not because he can't, but because everything that could be said has already been, long ago.

>>3396039
This is more depressing than Ruby and Tom dying.

>>3396033
If he's anything like stitches, then he only has partial control over the mutation. Suddenly mutating over dinner isn't very attractive either.

>>3396027
I thought weaver said she was like 14 or something during IRC, but I could be wrong you know...

I dunno, the whole game still has a vaguely "it's all in Ruby's head" sorta vibe. I hope it doesn't turn out that way.

More importantly, why doesn't ace have his spade sign anymore?

Is there more than one?

Was he fired?

>>3396096
nah, she doesn't have a specified age.

That was some dumbass in a discussion thread spreading rumors.

>>3395856
You think?

Reposting my question from the last discussion thread:

The really interesting thing is of course who is weaver going to listen to once we got near the end and it's CHOICES time.

Escape, Truth, Love, Revenge?

>>3396130
I dunno, he'll probably just pick whatever he's already drawn out, like always.

>>3396118

If Ace is a "previously successful experiment" as hypothesized, and considering the hints of a source to all these experimental ideas (whispers in the head, eye disc, etc.), then it may be that he needs a symbol - like the various symbols we've seen around - for a name. For some reason. If he lacks a symbol, it may represent that he's no longer under anyone's control, or something like that.

Hmm. Right Hand/Left Hand. ...Mirrored.

HMMMMM.

Question: Was it REALLY a mirror that came down, or just that Ruby assumed that a mirror had come down so that's what she saw? Remember, what Ruby has seen isn't always what is really there/seen by anyone else. so when she saw that 'reflection' of herself, was it really that - or could it have been this theorised 'Other Ruby'/Doppelganger/6/Blanca copying her motions/coming up with them herself at exactly the same moment?

>>3396118
>>3396157
Quoting >>3382369 :-

"ACE OF SPADES IS THE SYMBOL FOR DEATH. ACE USED TO WEAR THIS SYMBOL ON HIS SUIT. ONCE THE EXPERIMENTS WERE FULLY UNDERWAY (ASSUMEDLY RESURRECTION?), HE LOST THIS SYMBOL. IT'S A MESSAGE. DEATH HAS NO POWER HERE ANYMORE.

HOLY
SHIT"

I agree with that post.

>>3396149
>he'll probably just pick whatever he's already drawn out
oh fuck right off already

The answer is simple. It was Opal that did it.

I still say Ruby is a zombie monster waiting to happen. She's already gone crazy twice in recording history. There's no reason to assume she won't do it again.

She's dangerous. Tom needs to put her down.

>>3396235
Nobody seems innocent in this whole mess.
Don't assume that just because we haven't seen Tom do anything wrong yet he's innocent.

Of course Ruby is fairly fucked up.

Imagine how much of a shock suddenly being able to see after being blind from birth would be. Can YOU imagine suddenly gaining another sense?

Honestly I can't believe no one has said this yet. inb4Ace comes in from behind and takes/crushes/knocks out Ruby

My current standing theory is that this guy is the BBEG and the leader of the facility, and most likely the figure known as "F".
It's a good bet he's gone mad-scientist-crazy and controls the whole facility obsessively, trying to continue his experiments even though they're clearly long past the point of disaster.

>>3396293
Horf! Horf! Super Tortimer isn't a nintendo game!

>>3396293
THEORY != HYPOTHESIS. RELATIVITY IS A THEORY. GRAVITY IS A THEORY. DARK MATTER/ENERGY IS A THEORY.

YOU HAVE FORMED A HYPOTHESIS. AN EDUCATED GUESS BASED ON OBSERVATION.

>>3396293
Quick, someone list the name of all Animal Crossing characters whose names start with F

rolled 60, 1, 27 = 88

>>3396333

Freckles - duck
Friga - penguin
Filbert - squirrel
Fang - wolf
Freya - wolf

>>3396039
Oh god, Metal Glen is a hypercube like in Cube2. The facility is losing its stability, not all of the characters are the originals and there are copies from fractured realities running amok.

Also, why was there no mention in the last thread that the fucking dummy is gone?

>>3396039
Fucking Epic.
>>3396118
Just weavers art choise. Even in his character sheet he didn't have the spade.

>>3396388
Eh, no one has ever really shown any interest in the dummy.

It's just not that spooky or interesting.

Next thread Ruby should dance and sing Tsurupettan to Tom to calm him down.

>>3396459
It was a plain old dummy.

Then the lights went out.

OH GOD ITS EYES WHAT THE FUCK KILL IT

>>3396464
DON'T CALL ME FLAT!

>>3396325
FUCK OFF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
PEOPLE MAY CONFUSE THE TWO BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SCIENTIFIC THEORY AND A CONVERSATIONAL ONE, YOU COLLOQUIALLY-IGNORANT FAGGOT

>>3396495

But I love your delicious flat chest ;_;

>>3396388

I second the dummy question.

Also, the cube movies were up there on my list of 'most depressing things ever.'

>>3396459
Fuck, I'd think by now we'd know better to take anything for face value in Metal Glen, the world is falling apart, everything is a threat. God damn dummy that has been there the whole time, always watching, something about it unnatural, is suddenly gone after twenty three threads? I'm betting it turns out to be #6.

>>3396293
There is no such thing as a failed experiment, only more data.

I want Red back, he's awesome.

We should try to lead Ace to the door that we weren't CRAFTY or MANLY enough to open. See if that fucking spooky guy on the monitors freaks out or looks happy to see Ace, and see Ace's reaction as well (if he even has one).

>>3396502

do I spy a "hug me tom" under all that blood?

>>3396459

They should. The glowing eyes that go 'skurch' when prodded with the scalpel?

Ruby Stalvern waited. The lights above her blinked and sparked out of the air. There were abominations in the base. She didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. Her warnings to Sujbect Tom were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Ruby was a test sujbectfor fourteen years. When she was young she watched the waves and he said to dad "I want to be under the ocean daddy."
Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY ABOMINATIONS"
There was a time when she believed him. Then as she got oldered she stopped. But now in the underwater base of the MG she knew there were abiminations.
"This is Tom" the radio crackered. "You must fight the abominations!"
So Ruby gotted her longshareman's hookd and teared up the wall.
"SHE GOING TO KILL US" said the abominations
"I will bite at her" said the hound and he snapped his teeths. Ruby hooked at him and tried to tear him up. But then the poisan gas fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the abominations" she shouted
The radio said "No, Ruby. You are the abominations"
And then Ruby was an abomination.
The radio said "Just kidding."
And then Ruby was not an abomination.

>>3396265
I'm sorry?

Haven't seen him do anything?

Rape is something.

>>3396575
ELEMENTAL PLANE OF TEETH

>>3396584
>Rape

When?

>>3396587

Is that what we're calling Red's mouth now?

What I would like to know is how the "supernatural" factor plays. Maybe Red tried to use some kind of strange occult teachings after their own "unethical" treatments failed. He introduced the treatment who relies extensively on the manipulation of these "forces" (or whatever) and knew that they were capable of healing almost anything and reanimating people from chopped bits as long as there is some some parts of the brain remaining. The treatment was not just unethical, it was vastly unknown. Red had NO FUCKING IDEA of the side effects that could happen. The biggest problem wasn't the patients going psycho, but the whole "treatment" who forced them to stay there as some kind of hell and fucked up reality.

Even if you extrapolate and go with the idea that they actually discovered some sort of incredibly awesome healing process, it's rather unlikely that all the symbolism and writings painted in blood are just because Red went crazy, and that the BROKEN PHYSICS ROOM is just a phenomena resulting from an experiment gone wrong.

inb4 Cthulhu

>>3396589

Ruby was almost raped. That's why she had to kill him.

>>3396589
Tom's secondary arms sure make rape a lot easier.

>>3396575

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH WOW

>>3396611
>>3396613
No.

ಠ_ಠ

>>3396611
>Ruby was almost raped
Like hell, she was as into it as he was.

Anyone got the "YOU ARE THE FASCISTS" version?

>>3396634
>Like hell, she was as into it as he was.
You are a chauvinist pig then, die in a fire.

At first I d'aaaaawwed...

>>3396634
thatsthejoke.jpg

>>3396658
...but then I accidentally Ruby.

>>3396611
I wish people like you would stop posting lies all the time. People are confused enough about RQ without you dipshits.

>>3396654
SHE WASN'T ALMOST RAPED, SHE INTENTIONALLY WENT IN THERE AND MADE OUT WITH HIM TO GET CLOSE TO HIM SO SHE COULD KILL HIM
MURDER WAS PLANNED FROM THE START, TOM DIDN'T OVERSTEP HIMSELF AND IT WASN'T IN SELF DEFENSE
IN B4 I TROL U

>>3396670
>>3396671

Oh wow, that was a lot more successful than I hoped for. Sheesh, calm down mangs.

>>3396671

see

>>3396659

Stitches just needs better stitching, and he'll be safe to be around again! That, and he needs his nails cut.

>>3396606

Dammit, now I have an Event Horizon feeling about this. Metal Glen looks to be a very large facility, and with only 8 cells (at least in the small bit we have explored) I have a feeling that the patients were not the only things being experimented with. Who knows, maybe an accident from another lab had an even worse reaction to whatever super experimental treatment Red was asking permission for (it obviously had to be something huge/highly unethical as it required the entire board's approval and it seemed like Red was asking for permission for quite some time).

I already thought Ruby was hot before, now that she's a psycho killer I find her even hotter.

What the fuck is wrong with me?

STOP MAKING SO MANY DISCUSSION THREADS
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>>3396720
"Bad Girl Aura"

>>3396733

THIS IS LIKE THE ONLY ONE SO FAR TODAY YOU OVERZEALOUS FAGGOT

>>3396720

I know exactly how you feel, man.

>>3396720
Maybe you should stop imagining her getting out of control and scratching and biting during sex.

>>3396765

last one
not by me, but a cool cat known as steffie/psycholugia/fgsgf

Ruby isn't a good girl for lovin' anyway. She ain't no hoppin' back girl.

>>3396786
This was already posted this thread, man.

I remember last year on /co/ when the number of threads raging about the number of Avatar threads reached critical mass.

Ragefags, trolls and morons are always on 4chan and even the more mellow boards aren't safe.

Expect some raging idiot posting screenshots of the /tg/ frontpage where 2 quest threads are on it SIMULTANEOUSLY! *GASP*

>>3396839

What is Quest ?

>>3396834
oh
well uh
now you know who its from 8)?

>>3396856

Um like RubyQuest
KnightQuest
DorfQuest
ElfQuest

>>3396798
IS SHE A HOLLA BACK GIRL?

>>3396839
Ruby seems to put on two pairs of sunglasses in that comic.

Anyone else reminded of the There she is!! flash every time Tom and Ruby hug?

>>3396947

Inherently.

(I'd find a better picture but I can't be bothered to take the time)

Again with people assuming that Ruby had no free will in her attempted murder and actual murder.

There is no sufficient evidence to credit any scenario in which both scenes depicting Ruby's violence were not her responsibility. There is no sufficient evidence to discredit any scenario that involves her committing these acts of her own accord.

There are numerous ways in which a seemingly pleasant girl can also be a savage killer.

First, and most obvious, she had different information at the time. Most of you wouldn't be able to kill someone out of hand, but in the right circumstances could do it fine.

Secondly, she may have had and still have extreme sociopathic tendencies. Red and Tom were making things harder for her, so she got them out of the way. She hasn't done anything like that now because Tom has been extremely helpful and not only is there no reason to kill him but it would be a terrible setback for her. She's nice because, like most sociopaths, she may not understand societal rules but she can still recognise and follow them, understanding that it's best to follow these rules.

She may, alternatively, be the sort of person who reacts with egregrious disproportionality to real or imagined slights. Red and Tom did something to her, so she had to do something to them, and she did. So far she hasn't done a damn thing because there hasn't been anything significant enough to trigger that, or because she is intelligent enough in her anger to recognise when it is a bad time to do it and is waiting until they get to safety to do so.

So long as other credible scenarios exist in which Ruby willingly attackd Red and Tom, you cannot validly assume that she had no free will to do otherwise, and you cannot use that assumption as a premise behind other arguments without your argument being stupid and crap.

I want Ruby and Tom to have dozens of kids and live happily ever after. Both of their respective species have litters, so the volume shouldn't be a problem.

Dunno what the crap their kids would look like though.

>>3396977
>png
goddammit when will people learn

>>3396235
We've all been assuming that pre-coffin Ruby went crazy, killed Tom, and tried to kill Red. Could she have had a reason for doing so beyond just madness? It is easy to imagine her wanting revenge on Red if he were a part of the faculty at the facility, but then why kill Tom? Could he have been a narc? Or maybe she realized that he was dangerous for some other reason? Maybe it was a mutually agreed-upon mercy killing to prevent him from undergoing the transformation into a slavering monster.

We still do not know a lot about Tom. He's the only character introduced thus far to have not shown any murderous tendencies. I don't think it's safe to assume yet that he is not capable of the same behavior.

>>3396985
Wait, when did people say she was mind controlled in this thread?

>>3397004
We haven't shown any either, but apparently we are capable of it.

>>3396995

Learn what? I save EVERYTHING in .png. Keeps the colors nice, and I have more than enough drive space for it.

>>3397014
i usually re-save jpgs as png because jpg is lossy but png isn't so it looks better

>>3396985
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
YOU'RE TELLING US WE CAN'T ASSUME SOME WEIRD SHIT WAS GOING ON IN HER HEAD BECAUSE THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF IT?

HOW ABOUT THE CONSTANT BLACKOUTS, HALLUCINATIONS, VISIONS, AND OTHER FUCKED-UP PHENOMENON GOING OFF RAPID-FIRE AROUND THE ENTIRE FUCKING FACILITY
NORMALLY I'D AGREE WITH YOUR "LET'S BE REASONABLE ABOUT THIS AND FIRST ASSUME THAT THINGS ARE EXACTLY AS THEY APPEAR" HYPOTHESIS BUT JESUS CHRIST THIS IS NOT A NORMAL SITUATION

>>3396992
This GOOD END needs to be drawn up now because I have the feeling that Ruby Quest is only going to end in either BAD END or just horribly depressing.

Also, three eyed, multiple limbed cabbits.

I want to try and see if there's anything to the attempts at tying the biblical numerology to the patients.

#1, Stitches, is the number of Unity and New Beginings.
#5, Tom, is the number of Grace and Redemption.
#6, <unknown>/Red, is the number of Sin and Man's Weakness.
#7, Ruby, is the number of God and Completeness.

>>3397028

SINCE WE'RE HAVING A YELLBATE I'LL JUST TURN ON CAPSLOCK FIRST.

FOR ONE IF THINGS AREN'T USUAL THEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE NOT USUAL AND THEREFORE ANY PREDICTION BASED ON THINGS BEING FUCKED UP IN A SPECIFIC WAY IS EVEN MORE STUPID THAN ASSUMIGN THAT BECAUSE SOMETHING IS POSSIBLE IT MUST BE TRUE AND THERE IS NO USEFUL INFORMATION TO BE GAINED FROM ASSUMING THINGS WILL BE FUCKED UP IN SOME NONSPECIFIED WAY.

FOR ANOTHER IN ANY SITUATION IN WHICH YOU ARE PRESENTED INFORMATION THAT MAY NOT BE ENTIRELY CORRECT THE ONLY VALID APPROACH IS TO ASSUME IT IS CORRECT BUT MAKE NO IRREVERSIBLE DECISIONS SO LONG AS YOU REALISE THIS AND ONLY ASSUME THAT IT IS NOT TRUE IN A SPECIFIC WAY WHEN GOOD EVIDENCE PRESENTS ITSELF TO THAT REGARD.

IF YOUR ARGUMENT'S PRIME PREMISE IS THE IMPOSSIBILITY OF IMPOSSIBILITY THEN YOUR ARGUMENT IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

>>3397047
Weaver already stated something along the lines of:
if 5 is man and 6 is the devil then 7 is god, or whatever.

>>3397047

that.. seems fitting

>>3396985

If Ruby didn't give a fuck about societal rules then she would have put Red in the grave the minute he started laughing insanely behind her while looking at a mutilated corpse, which she was not amused by.

>>3396685
Was that even a troll? Some people have to be seriously fucking dense not to get that that was a joke.

>>3397118
He said in his first post that she followed societal rules because she knew it was expected. Or rather, that some sociopaths do.

>>3397078
I thought 7 was a nigger.

>>3397020
>i usually re-save jpgs as png because jpg is lossy but png isn't so it looks better

>>3396293
I know who the leader really is: The one person in Animal Crossing who's actually a doctor.

>>3397118

There are valid courses of sociopathic reasoning that would take that observation and produce that result. Namely not doing anything to another survivor who hasn't been expressly violent and who has potential uses.

>>3397078
That's where I got the initial idea from. There doesn't appear to be a clearcut 'THIS IS THE ACCEPTED WAY IT IS' article easily found, but those seem to be the most common ways of identifying those given numbers.

#2 is the number of Union and Division. I had initially forgotten Stitches was already labeled #1, so I mistakenly thought him to be this.
#3 has special meaning, being the number of the Trinity.
#4 is the number of Creation and Creativity, appearently.

>>3397077
>YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE NOT USUAL
ACTUALLY, WE DO.
THE NUMEROUS TRACTS OF LOST TIME + HALLUCINATIONS + VISIONS + HEARING VOICES + FLASHBACKS, WHEN COMBINED WITH THE NATURE OF THE FACILITY AROUND US, ALL POINT TOWARDS MENTAL CORRUPTION OF EITHER A MEDICAL OR SUPERNATURAL NATURE.
THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST HOW THINGS ARE GOING WRONG, AND ALL THAT EVIDENCE POINTS TOWARDS RUBY NOT BEING "HERSELF" WHEN THE ATTACKS HAPPENED.
YOU ARE WRONG.

>Trinity
>Tri
>triangle
>triangular beak-like head

This is a stretch and stupid, but I'm pointing it out anyway.

There's also the incredibly heavy implication that Red knew what was going on and didn't Blame Ruby for it.

>>3397158
What? I've never been able to save something as a .jpg without it looking like shit. Never had that problem with .png.

Or are you just raging that he resaves a file that's already fucked up?

OH GOD WHY YOU PEOPLE ARE YELLING CAN I YELL TOO

>>3397150

Most sociopaths do, the vast majority. Working off the simple definition of a sociopath as someone with a substantially compromised or no ability to empathise with other people, more recent studies suspect as much as eight percent of people may be sociopathic or have sociopathic tendencies. Most of them you will never even notice because they are capable of recognising the way society works, and recognising that if they don't follow those rules bad things will happen, and that they are expected to follow those rules at all times. They are completely capable of living a life utterly undistinguished from a normal life, and the only difference between them and a normal person is their reasons for doing so.

The sociopaths who become notable by doing bad things, which are very few in number but far more visible to the point where most people automatically assume sociopaths are killers waiting to happen. Those sociopaths always have another issue, be it substantial greed, a subset of society having rules that seem more improtant than collective society's, some form of mental illness, and also a trigger by which the capacity and will to kill meet with the opportunity.

There is also the potnetial that Ruby may have been intensely violent before and that the treatment may have actually suppressed or even eliminated those violent tendencies. Just because something does bad things doesn't mean it only does bad things.

I think you're all overlooking a very important observation from one of the early threads that was downplayed until now.

You know, I like the Ruby Quest series. It's a lot of fun. But, dear God, every thread that concerns it is full of the most cancerous fucktarded fanboys in /tg/. They draw the faggotry to them with a force which even Angry Marine threads can't match.

>>3397198
>Or are you just raging that he resaves a file that's already fucked up?
YES.
SAVING A VERY HIGH-QUALITY JPG STILL COMES OUT INFINITELY SMALLER THAN A PIXEL-PERFECT PNG AND LOOKS JUST AS GOOD.
FURTHER, IF THE JPG IS ALREADY LOSSY, SAVING IT AS PNG WON'T FIX IT, IT WILL JUST SAVE THE LOSSES PERFECTLY AND BUMP THE FILE SIZE UP SEVERAL TO TIMES ITS ORIGINAL.

SAVING PHOTOGRAPHS AND OTHER SHIT AS PNG IS FUCKING STUPID TO BEGIN WITH

>>3397198

Hey, if it's already fucked up, no reason to make it worse.

>>3397078
Pixies - Monkey Gone to Heaven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQr4Hbr4cGs

If man is five
then the Devil is six
and if the Devil is six
then God is seven"

or Crowley, Kabbala, Golden Dawn, whatever

>>3397238
>>3397240

And at any rate, the total count from all the Folders is easily over 1000 by this point, and 90% of those are in .png. It'd be an ungodly hassle to try and switch formats now.

>>3397240
If it's already fucked up, no reason to save it in a massive, pixel-perfect format.

Reasoning behind #6 being a shape-shifter: We've seen monstrosities ranging from a bear that, when killed, keeps coming back and a weird-ass hound with a long arm and a floppy lower body. Yet these are not as dangerous as #6 who was moved to another cell far away from the other patients. In a situation like this, the only thing more dangerous than a monster, given that both the monsters and this #6 both have homicidal tendencies, is an effective liar. You can keep a homicidal nutjob quarantined or locked away, but if they can lie effectively they, essentially, have free run of the place within their status.

An effective liar with the ability to change their face and body to fit their needs is far more dangerous than anything else in a situation such as this. Discounting, of course, something that could bring the facility down around itself, killing everyone but itself.

Problems: We don't know how long these subjects(stitches and the hound) have been around, much less how long they've been loose. This also means that we don't know how long it's been since they changed.

However, it is just as likely that they had been detained and sedated for further testing as it is for them to have just suddenly changed when things went wrong. This is supported by the fact that we do not know the particulars of the experimental treatments being used in the facility.

tl;dr: We don't know. The best guess we have is that #6 is a shape-shifting lunatic that, seemingly, had it out for Ruby for one reason or another. This is not as likely as Ruby just not remembering having attempted to kill both Red and Tom, but fits the genre more.

>>3397215

Except this isn't exactly a situation where anyone would hold steadfast to societal values, and if a lack of empathy is the definition of being a sociopath, than I probably am one. Hence, I seem to have more authority on whether or not a sociopath would drop someone like Red in a situation such as Ruby's.

>>3397284
I thought it was assumed the hound was #6, as he did nothing but blatantly attack us and was pretty obviously far along the mutant trail.

>>3397316

No, the Hound wasn't #6. 6 is held in Upper Lab B. We haven't been there yet.

>>3397284

Your entire argument rests on the basis that it is possible. That something is possible is never sufficient.

>>3397314

I don't think any of my scenarios are correct. What I do think is that people shouldn't be using an assumption as a premise.

>>3397406
It is too sufficient! Just because something is so astronomically improbable as to defy all evidence and conventional logic, that doesn't mean that it isn't still POSSIBLE!

>>3397434

Get stupid shit like that out of here. If you are going to even mention real-world theology in its own right on 4chan you are either a ridiculously optimistic evangelist or yet another of the impossibly retarded RELIGION IS BAD AIMIRITE fuckheads who come to 4chan explicitly because it means they can spout shit like that without actually having to say it to the people they hate so much.

There is nowhere in 4chan that has a tenth the maturity to handle a genuine religious discussion.

>>3397406

And Ruby having shown no signs of being a sociopathic monster outside of the two videos.

And Red's dismay at needing to kill her, along with the implication that he knew what caused the attack to happen.

SHE'S RANDOMLY PSYCHOTIC is also just 'it's possible so it's likely hurf durf' bullshit. Red's journal, at least, suggest a treatment-related cause.

>>3397471

see

>>3397411

>>3397458
This is accurate and I'm surprised it was said as opposed to "LOL CHRISTFAGS" or "But I'm just trying to save you!"

Ace is awsome with a capitol A. Case fucking closed.

>>3397480

It's because I know there is absolutely nothing that I can say to these people that will stop them from making arses of themselves by vomiting out garbage in a comically futile attempt to either change the faith of others by producing the worst argument possible for their alternative or make themselves feel less insecure in their choice by rallying up other people to support them with arguments as stupid if not stupider than even the most mouth-frothing cultist.

>>3397479

fair enough, I missed that.

>>3397480
Wow, I'm glad to see that at least some of the people here on /tg/ are mature enough not to bash Christians at the first provocation! It's hard to be a Christian and visit 4chan with all the atheist and muslim trolls around who think it's funny to ridicule us. Kudos!

>>3397530
1/10

BECAUSE I STILL FUCKING RAGED

>>3397560

Raged at me (>>3397530)?

>>3397284
>the only thing more dangerous than a monster
IS A BIGGER, EVEN STRONGER MONSTER

>>3397530
>>3397560
>>3397580

Stop it, please. There is no possible outcome of a situation involving an attempt to discuss religion and atheism on 4chan other than an apocalyptic mess.

Both sides have reasonable arguments and both sides have incredibly shitty ones that make you less confident in your beliefs for sharing them with people who can actually believe such things.

Now back to Rubyquest.

How many people think that somethign else could have attacked Tom in the blank frame? Face it, there's little enough evidence of that. Had something attacked him Ruby would also be injured, and he probably wouldn't be so neatly cut up. This is an artifical narrative world, so anythign in it is there for a reason, and anything missing is missing for a reason.

>>3397610

OR TWO MONSTERS.

NUMBER SIX CAN SUBDIVIDE.

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>>3397631

The closest we get to third-party interference is that Tom is still on the table, with the way the blood trails across the floor and Ruby's commonly acknowledged lack of strength. If Tom ran to the door during stabbing, it would mean that Ruby followed him to the door to keep stabbing him and then pulled him back to the table and hoisted him up onto it.

It's an incredibly weak argument and it's easier to make a case that Ruby is officially recorded as dead at the time and we know that the 'treatment' has mental side effects, and that that is either A: not ruby or B: there is some unkown circumstance compelling this action.

>>3397406
It is also based on the fact that the face-changing monster scenario is not only possible, but fits the genre more than the 'randomly going nuts and attacking people' theory.

In addition, we have more evidence to the contrary of Ruby going insane than we have to support it. Unless you're saying that the attacks witnessed in the videos happened in the three days we supposedly lost consciousness after the white out/'Red cuts ???' incident, in which case I'd ask you why Tom doesn't remember any of it.

>>3397665

>Unless you're saying that the attacks witnessed in the videos happened in the three days we supposedly lost consciousness after the white out/'Red cuts ???' incident, in which case I'd ask you why Tom doesn't remember any of it.

Why would Tom remembering them even come up? Those videos are DATED. We know that they happened before all of this started (as #6 was stored in the brig until 23 nov)

>>3397664
The blood ont he floor probably just dripped off of her as she walked to the door. She was no doubt covered in arterial spray from all the throat-slitting she had been doing.

>>3397665

There's not enough information on the dates and the history here to contextualise the last video, which is the most suspicious of them for that reason. Without that, the Ruby Went Batshit theory is the simplest and most supported.

There is still no real evidence in favour of the Shapeshifter theory. You can't say anything that specific fits the genre, and there are literally dozens of potential creatures that fit as well or better.

>>3397714

that would be a shit-ton of drippage right there. The only reason I don't discount blood drippage entirely is some of the crazy blood we've seen in the facility.

Also that isn't real ruby. Ruby is an albino.

>>3397734

>There's not enough information on the dates and the history here to contextualise the last video, which is the most suspicious of them for that reason.

Read the notes.

29 Oct: Ruby declared dead, to be stored in cell 7.
8 Nov: That video
23 Nov: #6 moved from Brig to Lab B (Tom was in the Brig already as of the start)

>>3397742
Not really, when you consider how much blood pumps through the jugular vein and the carotid artery.

Goddammit /tg/, now look what you made me do.

>>3397753
And Tom doesn't remember anyone else in the cell with him? Odd. There's more to Tom, I'm sure.

>>3397793

We don't know The in-setting date. It could well be december. It's quite possible that they moved Tom there AFTER they took #6 out.

>>3397766

MEDTIP: FOR THERE TO BE SUFFICIENT FRESH BLOOD ON RUBY FOR THAT MUCH TO DRIP OFF EITHER SHE AND HER CLOTHES ARE MADE OF A FRICTIONLESS SUBSTANCE AND SHE MANAGED TO RECIEVE THE FULL DOUBLE LOAD OF ARTERIAL BLOOD OR TOM SECRETLY HAD THREE REGULAR-CAPACITY CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEMS ALL OF WHICH WERE EMPTIED.

>>3397805
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY CRITIQUING THE AMOUNT OF BLOOD PRESENT IN A HORROR GAME?
SERIOUSLY?

>>3397805
Considering that they were making out when she cut him up (presumably), it doesn't seem unlikely that Ruby would have been bathed in all the blood.

>>3397781
I claim no responsibility for that, but it's funny as shit.

>>3397837

No. Read all of the posts in the chain. The person he responded to said 'no it's actually a reasonable amount of blood' in response to a post that says 'I'd say it was an unreasonable amount of blood, but I don't because of the crazy blood content elsewhere.'

>>3397837

NO, MERELY THE PEOPLE USING THE QUANTITY OF BLOOD AS A PREMISE IN THEIR ARGUMENTS.

IT'S LIKE USING PORNOGRAPHIC FILMS AS THE PRINCIPLE MATERIAL EVIDENCE IN A STUDY ON THE SEXUAL HABITS OF WEST LONDON.

>>3397781
/tg/ - Trans-Gender

>>3397848
Then why are you commenting on it? And in CAPS no less. STFU

>>3397860

BECAUSE CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR AGRUMENTATIVE INTEGRITY AS IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE IN YOUR TRAGICALLY LOWERCASE ATTEMPTS AT A WAR OF THE MINDS.

GOOD DAY TO YOU, SIR.

>>3397781

>>3398221
Heres a thought for you: who do you think restiched stiches up?

Stiches sucks needs more manly Ace/Spadehead art.

Let's just leave the thread at this then, and have it END on the point that it began.