"The "Plague Doctor" may be considered a mask nowadays, but in the old times it was a sad reality.

The mask with the long beak is made to keep in it substances and aromas that it was believed would have protected the doctor from getting contaminated from the plague."

Weaver already admitted he wrote the poem, lurk moar. Murdoch is a real person, but absolutely nothing indicates that he had anything to do with any glens, metal or not.

Thank you for not calling him "Spade", OP.

Given that the last session showed that the zombies are full characters, that the "plant" zombie is also one of the characters? Maybe that one in between Red and Stitches?

>>3330711

This just proves that Weaver is a MAGNIFICENT BASTARD and a MASTERMIND all rolled into one AWESOME MOTHERFUCKER package

the poet william murdoch is definately real, look at the wikipedia article, then the edit history, too old to have been set up by weaver. then again, the article is rather short, so it is perfectly possible that he is obscure enough to have poems which arent on the internet.

on the other hand it does seem slightly odd that an anon "just happened" to remember or be reading the poem at the time of ruby and then to see the paralells. most likely either weaver has made it up, or he is in fact using it for some inspiration and decided to tell us about it as a hint and to create more intrigue and interest

>>3330746

Just look at his name: WEAVER

WEAVER; as in

3. to form by combining various elements or details into a connected whole: to weave a tale; to weave a plan.
4. to introduce as an element or detail into a connected whole (usually fol. by in or into): She wove an old folk melody into her latest musical composition

>>3330733
"Spade" is more intuitive than "Ace" for the symbol. The only reason you went to Ace is because you saw the pattern of Animal Crossing characters.

And if that upsets you enough that you have to thank people when they don't do it, you really need to grow up and get a fucking life.

P.S. I'm going to call him Spade in every thread, now.

There is a question as to whether Red actually killed Ruby in the video, and why.

He may have tried to kill her for altruistic reasons, to save her from Ace, or whatever else her fate was. He may have killed her for selfish reasons, simply to thwart Ace. The video, and Ruby's memory of Ace placing her in the coffin, indicate that she may not have died, and that Ace lied on the medical reports for either good or nefarious reasons.

Two possible theories: They are in a medical facility run by horribly unethical doctors who are experimenting on them to test whatever this mutative disease is, and Ace is a secret ally trying to help them. Alternatively, the medical facility had good intentions (supported by the medical report implying that Ruby entered the program voluntarily), but either "something went wrong" (loss of containment) and bad things are afoot in the facility, or Ace is secretly conducting unethical experiments.

>>3330764
This

>>3330711
>Weaver already admitted he wrote the poem
Pic or it didn't happen. He has ignored this question on multiple occasions.

>>3330764
You're a fucking dick. You actually got mad enough at me to do something like that out of spite? See attached pic.

>>3330764
>I'm going to call him Spade in every thread, now.
The cast listing posted by the OP was originally posted by Weaver. Including the names. Ace is canon.

>>3330748

the engineer, William Murdoch, is credited with the invention of the Vacuum Tube Delivery thing.. you know.. what we sent the dismembered hand flying up.

>>3330801
>4chan webgame
>canon

>>3330809
Yep. Pretty sure the author can determine the character names.

>>3330809
Yes, hard as it may be for you to understand, those two phrase have no trouble fitting together.

>>3330785

Pics and it did happen.

>>3330801
Ace might be canon, but I get the satisfaction of some borderline-Asperger neckbeard groaning in frustration every time I use Spade.

Something to think about:

The ace of spades (also known as the spadille[1]) is commonly thought of as the highest-ranking card in the deck of playing cards, although the actual value of the card varies from game to game. In popular myth and folklore, it is also known as the [spoiler]"death card"[/spoiler].

>>3330822
Proves nothing, Weaver is a MASTER TROLL

>>3330785
there is a screenshot of irc chat showing weaver saying he wrote the poem. read the threads. its in the last one.

>>3330814
>>3330817
I don't know anything about this ruby thing except that I too will call the dude spade now.

spade
ace

Space?

So when the hell did Tom get Vestigial T rex arms, huh?

>>3330829
FFFFF how do I spoiler'd?

>>3330832

You're free to provide any evidence pointing into the direction that he didn't. ANY evidence.

>>3330849
Last thread.

Weaver is a magnificent bastard. I wuv him <3

>>3330822
Wait, didn't he post that poem like 10 threads ago? I thought he was just joking that William Murdoch wrote the poem because a person by the same name invented the Pneumatic tube system, which is also present in the story.

If you've ever read one of the POET William Murdochs' poems, you'd notice right away that it wans't him that wrote it.

Weaves' poem is still fairly good I think.

>>3330773
What I assume is that the facility has the ability to cure otherwise incurable or fatal injuries/diseases, however, in doing so it turns the patient into an abomination.

As it was Red's hand that activated the video, this could be seen as evidence that Red was an employee, but on the other hand, Red was just as trapped as Ruby and Tom, as we saw by his suicide. It is possible he was an employee who later became a prisoner, possibly because of his crime against ruby. We can't yet know the motivation for Red's crime, nor whether he actually killed Ruby, or just injured her, and Ace marked her as being dead.

Ace is an interesting character. So far, his intentions seem good: due to his marking Ruby as deceased, and the note in the medical room that read "despite [Ace]'s best intentions..." we can conclude that he is a staff member, probably a doctor. Whether he is doing this because he genuinely wants to help, or because he wants to do crazy experiments, we do not know.

Stitches has recovered from being a bloody mass with little more than a spine and head. Now that he has recovered, he is still able to talk and has some kind of conscience, showing the power of the facility.

The Hound Zombie and F are probably the two other characters.

Seriously, read some of the poet Murdochs poems.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=zrIDAAAAQAAJ&dq=%22william+murdoch%22+poems&printsec=frontco
ver&source=bl&ots=48UOSHNq0k&sig=xUqLxhEWCXoViQrXhxBZRJU07uw&hl=en&sa=X&oi=b
ook_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA158,M1

You're all pretty gullible.

Also, FUCK YOU GUYS YOU ALMOST KILLED TOM YOU BASTARDS I HATE YOU!

>>3330877

It was posted anonymously, so people went insane over finding the truth. But now that you mention, that's damn clever. Seeing there really WAS a poet named William Murdoch.

HOW MANY TIMES MUST I KILL YOU, BOY?!

>>3330801

Actually, Weaver put 'Ace' up there because 'it's what people kept calling him.'

I still aim to call him Bird until given a name proper.

>>3330890

And can you, in any way, show me that he actually had a poem called Metal Glen, and that is the same one?

man, red beat the shit out of ruby. he was smacking her as he dumped her into the crate.

i think weaver is fucking with whoever is trying to draw the maps.

>>3330850
you dont on /tg/

>>3330858

Let me rephrase that.

WHY does Tom have Vestigial T rex arms?

>>3330890
Oh, you mean some of the poems that have A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE THAN THE ONE WE WERE PRESENTED? Those poems?
Fucking retard.

I'm not so sure that we can neatly rationalise everything as a "medical facility" - its layout is hardly practical, and there's also the matter of the gaping black abyss and distorted geometry of Tom's prison room...

>>3330906
>name proper

...like Ace?

>>3330916

Medical Experiments.

>>3330906
Stitches, Ruby, Tom and Red are all characters from Animal Crossing. Ace in a character in AC too, a bird with a space symbol on his chest. It follows thematically.

>>3330916
WHY does Ruby have a third eye?
WHY is Stitches a horrible monster?
We don't know yet.

Whatever is wrong with Ruby, she had it "from birth."

Or, the facility may have been designed to treat rare diseases, and lost containment of the mutation disease. Ruby's third eye didn't manifest until she was scratched by the infected Hound.

>>3330941
Spade is a better name than Ace.

>>3330916
For the same reason Ruby has a third eye.

he signs his notes with a spade symbol. my guess is he is named spade.

>>3330954
Ruby had blindness from birth. The cure had the disturbing affect of giving her a third eye. I think Tom had muscular dystrophy, myself. That MANLY PHYSIQUE of his is fairly new...

>>3330959
Somehow, I don't think Spade Rimmer would have had quite the same effect.

>>3330964
1/10

>>3330924
>>3330913

You both fail at interpretation. I was pointing out that William Murdoch has COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STYLE OF POEM WRITING THAN THE POEM THAT WEAVER POSTED!

You're idiots, all of you.

>>3330964
This.

If his name were Ace he'd write that (instead of the far more difficult spade symbol) or at least A&spades.

Ace fits the "silent, monstrous antagonist" role SURPRISINGLY well.

>>3330988
So you COMPLETELY DIVERGED from the topic so that you could make the point already proven by a screencap of Weaver confirming what the majority already believed?
And WE'RE the idiots?

Somone post the medical files on Ruby and Stitches, etc.

>>3330991
>If his name were Ace he'd write that (instead of the far more difficult spade symbol) or at least A&spades.
Except there's an Animal Crossing character named Ace who is a bird.
And take a look at what his signature symbol is.

>>3330975
that's the one where danny john jules plays him instead

oh god...stiches is a character. he isn't hostile and it seems everyone is effected; I think we killed an innocent. Look at the hound, whe his eye ruputred into a jaw and claws he could have just leaned through and but ruby's head off. but he didn't, he calmly entered the room on the other side and we hooked him.

Red was a mutant, tom is a mutant, ruby is a mutant, stiches is a mutant. all in controle of them selves...who says the hound wasn't hostile?

>>3330999

Yes, because you had to wait until Weaver up and said "lol, i troll u" to figure out the obvious truth.

>The hound was still, the birds said naught,
>The fox denied he had been caught,
>The bear cried "This is just our lot",
>And surrendered to his pain.

>The birdS said not.
Not only should we not expect Ace to say anything, but we should consider that there may be several. The one that was in the room when the bomb went off may not have been Ace.

When this thing is all said and done someone prepackage just the art and narration so I don't have to wade through 20 pages of wank.

>>3331016

No, because most of use we're already more or less decided that it was Weaver. That admission was only the final proof.

>>3331014
>who says the hound was hostile?

hi thar. I fix'd some of your engrish. oh, and it's "affected' not "effected". Or did you mean "infected". God I hate retarded Americans.

I stand by my theory of Robobirds.

My mother told me once of when
A young hare ventured from her den
And as she danced in field and glen
The world sang joy.... ABOUT HER.

But wicked hateful things abound
And that young hare these evils found
Then whisked her up from off the ground
And glen was left.... WITHOUT HER.

Stitches is also an animal crossing character... a bear.

Ironic that we chose the name "stitches" for him at random, and that ended up being his name after all.

For an added bonus, take a look at where his stitches are.
Replace the pink area with GAPING TOOTHY MAW.

>>3331014
>all in controle of them selves
I wouldn't go that far.
Ruby routinely blacks out / whites out and loses LONG tracts of time.
Tom occasionally becomes borderline delirious and his grasp on reality seems tenuous.
Red is fucking insane as hell, he killed himself for god knows why and he breaks out into wild laughter at the suffering and fear of others.
And Stitches tried to kill Ruby, or at least had a violent episode.

>>3331029
I was going to say the same thing, except the other way around. I assume that he is European, which is why he can't speak English properly.

Can somebody post the archive link or does Weaver have a site now?

>>3330994
Well, if no one else is going to say it I will: That drawing is fucking amazing.

>>3331049

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Ruby

>>3331026

You're going to miss the best part, then.

>>3331028
You're pretty slow aren't you? Just drop it already you... you... DOUBLE NIGGER!

>>3331016
>what the majority already thought
Troll harder.

what is the "alt plus 3 numbers" code for a spade symbol?

>>3331024

Well, consider that Ace/Spade has sometimes appeared with the big spade on his outfit, and sometimes without. I'd take a guess that the one with the spade on his shirt is the real one.

>>3331024

It IS confirmed that the Bird in the end was the same Bird from Red's boomroom, via weaver in post-thread Q&A. No word on whether that is the same Bird as the one in the video or not.

>>3331039

This is what I thought when I was reading the poem... and in that voice. I'm glad I'm not alone.

>fucking amazing
It's a pretty good cartoon but come on now.

>>3331034
>I stand by my theory of Robobirds.

I thank that's more because "Aces" shape is similar to the Plague Doctors outfits of the 17th century. So when you see him, that's what you think of subconciously, so your brain makes the connection: That appearance is false.

As for Ruby, is she alive? Is she dead? Is she blind, or off her head? YOU ARE NOW HEARING OZZY OSBOURN IN YOUR HEAD... MANUALLY.

>>3331045
didn't think about that...tom does seem t get a bit smashy at times doesn't he?

as for the terrible spelling, yes i'm a lazy typer. i should preview post more

>>3331039
very nice.

>>3331079
Agreed. Not bad, but like hell am I ever going to get up in the middle of the night to see it again.

BTW, we could also ask ourselves... What the fuck happened to Stitches in that closet when Ruby found him? He was a bloody skeleton.

Maybe the doctors were testing his regenerative capacity?

>>3331040
It's not ironic. It's just like with Spade. A bunch of people keep squawking a name and then Weaver just CALLS him that.You're connecting dots that aren't there.

Wait, didn't we kill the zombie bear by closing the Z-Hatch on him? Then how is Stitches still alive?

>>3331098
Stitches obviously is able to regenerate as long as his brain is left intact. Maybe all the abominations have this ability.

>>3331098

Regeneration, if you haven't been paying attention.

>>3331095
>Spade
>denial of blatantly obvious facts

>>3331095
Which brings up another thing. Maybe Weaver is just following audience prompting and put references to Animal Crossing because since the FUCKING BEGINNING people wouldn't shut up about "lolol Player One lololol Ruby and Tom are Animal Crossing players!!!"

>>3331110
>Facts are just what you call your own opinions you feel really hard herpa derp.

>>3331115
That was always his intention you idiot.

>>3331110
>>3331120
this thread now has herpies

>>3331115
>Which brings up another thing. Maybe Weaver is just following audience prompting

If that was truly the case Ruby and Tom would have been fucking already. This is /tg/, it's only blue because it's a nice colour-scheme.

>>3331139
Or maybe because Weaver has enough integrity to allow coincidences with familiar media but not to allow his game and story to devolve into another smut-fast wankery that lasts only a day?

>>3331148
Should've been *smut-fest

>>3330916

>WHY does Tom have Vestigial T rex arms?

For superhugs.

>>3331133
Proof, please.

>>3331167

That is creepy and adorable at the same time.

ok guys, so the bear got double-killed but as long as his head wasn't destroyed he got better.

That means that the same could have happened to Tom or Ruby

>>3331183
But we know from the hound that it doesn't matter if you get gassed/fried/burned. If it destroys gray matter, your regeneration is farked.

>>3331183

He also isn't much of his old self (probably), is in questionable control of himself, and was actively re-zombified by a third party (he didn't strap himself to a wall).

i wonder who the other two could be. hound was vaperized so he cant come back. second has a weird as hell shape and the other could be anything. i didnt see any hints in the poem as to who these two could be. let alone what they're doing

ITT: Peopling being strung along by another drawfag.

Weaver is making this story, you're all just along for the ride. The fact that he admitted to the possibility of killing off Tom was brought on by the pressure from accusers of "railroading" and bitchers that didn't get their choices picked. In all likelyhood HE doesn't want to kill of Tom and his "spoiler" that a certain action would have done so only shows that he would like you all to shut the fuck up while he just makes pretty blood filled pictures and you all make him feel important.

The fact that he has a fairly comprehensive cast of characters already drawn out further provides evidence to this theory. He has planned out what he wants to happen and he will probably not stray far from his outline. You want to feel special, but you're really only along for the ride.

>>3331148

If that's true then he's the best Tripfag that /tg/ has ever known.
Also, I've been reading the threads whilst playing Umineko (ask /jp/) the music set's the tone rather well.
Not suprising, as they have the same sort of genre. Except Umineko is set in a mansion, and Ruby and Tom are each a damn sight smarter than Umineko's full cast of 18 combined.

I mean, if a person is going about killing people, and the only way to stop her is to find her HIDDEN JEW GOLD then I would *maybe* consider trying to find her goddamn gold ASAP as opposed to spending the evening in the parlour with a Shotgun.
Is it just me?

Also, now that I think about it, Weaver's been pretty good about following our instructions, even when it made no sense, like making the horrific smoothy for instance.

I find it amazing that we have so quickly progressed from
"DON'T TRUST THE CAT HE WAS PROBABLY LOCKED UP FOR A REASON SEND HIM INTO DANGER FIRST"
to
"Oh no, Tom is uneasy! Give him a hug! Don't let him get hurt! Get a bandage for his eye! Make sure not to get separated! Share all of Ruby's secrets with him so they can trust each other!"

>>3331211
He has a beginning, middle, and end. He lets us wander about with our thumbs up our asses and do the wrong thing until we go the right way. How is this being dragged along?

>>3331224
That's because /tg/ is actually the hivemind for a gay furry.

>>3331211
Whatever, fags like you won't go away no matter what you say. Because, either way, something happens, and even if Tom dies, you'll say he had it planned from the start and he's still just railroading. Because, in the end, you can't prove anything.

Now stop being a faggot or kill yourself. Preferably both.

>>3331224
tg just want them to have sex.

>>3331242
-sarcasm detected (?)

>>3331224
He's a trustworthy guy. He's proven that.

>>3331242

Actually, he has a background and setting. He can think of a couple of different ends, but doesn't know where we'll reach or if we'll end up somewhere else.

>>3331211
>NO MATTER HOW MUCH PROOF THERE IS THAT WE HAVE FREEDOM OF ACTION, NO MATTER HOW MANY UNORTHODOX ACTIONS WE GET TO TAKE, NO MATTER HOW MANY POTENTIAL OUTCOMES THERE ARE, I WILL ALWAYS WHINE ABOUT RAILROADING BECAUSE IN THE END OF ALL THE THINGS THAT *CAN* HAPPEN, ONLY ONE EVER *DOES* HAPPEN, AND IN MY MIND THAT PROVES IT WAS INTENDED TO HAPPEN FROM THE START.

>>3331224

>>3331224

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT, DO YOU KNOW IT?

>>3331224
I might point out that so far, Tom is the only thing in this facility, living dead or inanimate, that hasn't attempted to murder Ruby.

>>3331211
"Because his story is thought-out, it can't possibly be improvised"?

Characters and set pieces can easily be planned, and it makes creating dynamic, impromptu interactions between them that much easier to develop on the fly. It's not hard to run with a concept.
I mean, you're undermining the basic concept of impromptu storytelling by saying it's either shit or it's all pre-planned.

Either you've played with a lot of fucking terrible DMs...
or you are one.

>>3331171
>>3331133
Ten minutes later and still nothing.
No proof Weaver meant it to Animal Crossing. He's just throwing us bones with names and references. You've fallen into the trap most human beings are prone to: creating patterns where there are none, confirming your pre-existing ideas with after-the-fact 'evidence' and reasoning, and succumbing to a false consensus bias. YOU made it Stitches, YOU gave Red his name and Animal Crossing inspiration with all the talk of Player One and the game, and YOU called him Ace just to further confirm your own stupid theory.
His name is Spade. It makes more objective sense.

>>3331279
Although it's early to tell, technically Ace hasn't either. Stuffing her in a coffin/box sure, but not murdering or maiming.

>>3331279
How did Spades attempt to murder her?

>>3331269
>>3331259
Whatever floats your boat, faggots. I'm still having fun reading this stuff, but I'm not a gullible faggot like you guys.

"OMG, thaz an uncannie rezemblens to Ruby Quest! teh mus b wher he gut dis insperashin from! Willy Mulock iz such gud poit!"

>>3331279

When had Red tried to kill her? (Hullucinations and Dream Sequences aside) He dicked about with her yes, but... Oh wait, he did didn't he, actually battered her to death with his cane. Assuming she was dead when Ace found her, and he didn't just repair her and surgically implant a third psychic eye in her forhead whilst he was at it.
Actually given Ruby's memories of Ace putting her in the coffin in the first, that theory seems more plausible.

>>3331294
>the game

>>3331294

Fair enough, though if the next 2 characters are from Animal Crossing also, his name gets to be Ace. There is a point where it goes beyond being a coincidence

>>3331294
>creating patterns where there are none
On the contrary, there IS a game called Animal Crossing, and there IS a rabbit named ruby and a cat named tom. Coincidence possible but highly improbable.

>>3331211
>>3331242
It's pretty clear that the plot for this solidified about halfway through. That is when the cast listing first appeared. The calls of people who were getting tired of LOST-syndrome seem to have led to a less supernatural setting. And Weaver has let us do we've done plenty of stupid things (the hand in the tube, progressing the plot without fully exploring a room, running back and forth more often than necessary, etc). The only "railroading" I've really seen is Ruby's refusal to do patently stupid, macabre, or lewd things. Which is a good thing.

Also, it's pretty easy to tell the places where Weaver is following directions and where he is following a premade plot. The video from the hand scanner was clearly pre-prepared... though Weaver knew that we had been trying to get the fucking scanner working for ages.

>>3331294
>No proof Weaver meant it to Animal Crossing.
crossingpals5.gif

All the characters are named for AC characters and are at least somewhat visually based on them. The coincidence of a patchwork bear named Stitches AND a space-wearing bird named Ace is a bit too strong to simply overlook by itself, and given the origin of these character designs before they were revamped, I'd say the connection is so glaringly obvious you'd have to be blind to miss them.

There, now let the grown-ups go back to talking.

I won't say we're stuck on the express train, but we're definitely on firmer tracks than before. Read the earlier chapters, and Ruby/Tom did random stuff and walked through random rooms before figuring things out. Now look at the last thread: There has not been one post that did not advance the plot.

Before, we'd backtrack through a room or two and see if stuff worked or if we missed something. Now, every "decision" we made was the right one.

I personally don't mind, the story is interesting and I like seeing it go along, but you are kidding yourself if you think either Ruby or Tom have a significant chance of death. They've both got more plot armor than Jesus.

>>3331314
>The only "railroading" I've really seen is Ruby's refusal to do patently stupid, macabre, or lewd things. Which is a good thing.

Weaver seems to be going on the basis of choosing actions which Ruby is "most likely to take herself". Which brings us to the puzzling conclusion that Ruby put a severed hand in a mail tube. For no reason.

Let me just state that again, in case you missed it.

SHE PUT. A SEVERED HAND. IN A MAIL TUBE.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS GIRL

>>3331294
Also, he's the one that said his name was Red. He's the one that made him a fox. He's the one that put in the "special family" reference. This is pretty obvious shit, I don't know why you try to deny it.

p.s: You're now a furfag.

>>3331317
Or it's just an easy way to draw a rabbit and a cat, or the designs and names were stolen by Weaver but never intended to be connected, or the designs and names were subconsciously inspired by those. Everything after -- WE called it Stitches, not Weaver, WE called it Ace, not Weaver, WE wouldn't shut up about AC before Red was introduced -- follows from OUR discussion of the initial percieved pattern.

Nice argument fallacies in your post, by the by. I count at least two from just a cursory glance.

shit guys, I think I'm furfag now. I'm gonna close 4chan for a while

>>3331344
The hand in the tube seems to have been the event that led us to go "What the fuck, that was stupid. Maybe a few rails wouldn't be so bad."

>>3331339
There's no way you can prove that and ultimately, all discussion is futile because of that.

Just because something doesn't happen (i.e. Ruby or Tom dying) doesn't mean it can't happen or could have happened.

Basically, this session we didn't do anything batshit crazy. I can't prove that if we had, someone would have died, but you can't prove the opposite anyway.

>>3331354
HE MADE HIM A FOX BECAUSE OF HIS POEM. HE NAMED HIM RED AND MADE THE SPECIAL FAMILY REFERENCE BECAUSE WE KEPT TALKING ABOUT HOW SIMILAR IT WAS TO ANIMAL CROSSING AS A SURVIVAL HORROR AND HE THOUGHT "WHY NOT?"

>>3331359
>Or it's just an easy way to draw a rabbit and a cat
Right! And the fact that it takes place in Animal Crossing SPECIFICALLY has no bearing on this. Or is the shopkeeper being named "Nook" merely a coincidence?

>the designs and names were stolen by Weaver but never intended to be connected
Right! He intentionally named each character after an Animal Crossing character and built them on designs that specifically took place IN Animal Crossing, but no connection was intended.

You're the one looking for evidence to support your pre-cemented theory and ignoring all the rest.

>>3331339
ALL OF US HAVE MORE PLOT ARMOR THAN JESUS, HIS STORY WAS BASICALLY TO DIE IN A HORRIBLE WAY.

>>3331359
WE also found the poem by William Murdoch.... wait... fuck.

Who's up for graffiti WMG?

>>3331392
No, Weaver already said he wrote it. It's obvious he posted it, too, since there's no mention of it anywhere else in books or the internet.

>>3331294
>>3331359
>>3331379
No, you're wrong.
Ace was always Ace. Stitches was always Stitches. It was merely a fortunate coincidence in my favor people took to calling him that without any provocation.

The Animal Crossing connection IS intentional, though beyond appearance/species and name, there's nothing really to it.
It's nothing more than a reference, a tip of the hat, but it's certainly intentional.
You're wrong.

>>3331344
>Weaver seems to be going on the basis of choosing actions which Ruby is "most likely to take herself".

First thread.

"Throw the cardkey the hole"
"He tries, doesn't work."
"Tie the card to something and throw it up."
"*Ignore"
"Tie the card key"
"Do it"
"Doooo it"
"Go down"
"Ruby goes down"
"Wut, we said tie the damn card key to something"
"LOOK, I'M TRYING TO RUN THE GAME WITHOUT FUCKING IT UP, LEAVE ME ALONE"
"o no sorry great game weaver we luv u weebaa ichiban"

Turns out, all that happened was the card slot being back with tom, and Ruby could have just dropped that card back down to him, but you can bet your ass this isn't a free-roaming environment.

>>3331396
You know, now that I look at it again, the figure on the monitor doesn't really look like Ace. One of the last two characters?

Ace, huh?

>>3331408
Please point out all your posts in this thread.

>>3331408
THANK YOU, Weaver.

We can finally stop arguing about whether is should be Ace or not.

was the poem introduced after or before red showed up? and did it show up before or after all the animal crossing talk?

i think that people made up a conclusion before weaver did and weaver decided to go with it to fuck with us. hell, everything he has ever done was to fuck with us.

>>3331386
HE FUCKING DIDN'T NAME THEM AFTER ANIMAL CROSSING CHARACTERS. BESIDES RUBY AND TOM (AND SERIOUSLY, TOM THE CAT IS SOOO FUCKING UNOBVIOUS FOR A MALE CAT TO BE NAMED, RIGHT?) WE HAVE NAMED OR ENCOURAGED THE SPECIFIC NAMING OF EVERY CHARACTER SINCE INTRODUCED.
AND IF NOT, WHAT'S THE FUCKING HOUND'S NAME? OR DO WE NOT FUCKING HAVE ONE BECAUSE IT'S OUR CONSTRUCTION AND WE'VE MIRACULOUSLY CALLED IT BY THE POEM'S PROMPTING INSTEAD OF BY OUR INITIAL FUCKING PATTERN FORMING?

>>3331408
Well, then. That discussion is done.

>>3331396
WHO WAS MONITOR!?

>>3331430

whoa. Calm down there buddy. Deep breaths.

>>3331425
I'm still calling him Spade.

>>3331419

Wuts goin' on in'ere ya gits?

>>3331430
you have just been defeated by Word Of God: >>3331408

>>3331430
See
>>3331415

>>3331408
It could be this post:
>>3331429
is designed to fuck with us, too.

>>3331430
lol, see this post and then look at the picture attached.
>>3331408

>>3331448
I'm these two:
>>3331430
>>3331434

>>3331418

Tortimer

</wmg>

>>3331445
>>3331448
>>3331457
See
>>3331454

>>3331464
Yep.

why can't we call ace/spade magnus?
i think i will call him magnus

>>3331415
I'm only human.

I know my story and my means of telling it both have their flaws, and all I can really do is try my best to present an entertaining and enjoyable experience.

I admit that that particular example is certainly more of a "railroad" than I normally try to follow, and I did that intentionally because I wanted to order that local series of events so that Ruby wouldn't already have Tom with her when she faced her first abomination. I realize that some of the solutions may have been realistically feasible, but I can also rationalize that this is not a perfectly-realistic simulation and that many exceptions are made for the sake of the game and its medium.

I can offer that on the whole I do my best to avoid railroading, and while the story has become more tightly-focused, it's mostly due to the sheer increase in volume and speed that more readers have brought to it, rather than a brute-forcing of my idea of the story's progression onto its actual path.

I can tell you now that I really do try to avoid railroading and give players freedom of action. I can tell you that Tom really did skirt death and that I don't have a definitive ending or even progression in mind, and want the players to explore that for themselves. If you don't want to believe that, there's nothing more I can really say that will change your mind.

In the end, I try my best, and that's all I really can do.

>>3331419
Yeah, I thought that too.

>>3331464
>>3331396
What am I looking at in this monitor? Are those arms or is it a helmet or is it a face or what? Is it showing the body with the head just up out of view? WHAT IS IT!!!!

Also, what does wmg mean?

>>3331491
It's okay Weaver. It's an excellent story.

The important thing, though, is that Ruby and Tom should take the coins and read the note. Have they read the note yet? They should read the note.

>>3331491
Don't worry, Weaver, most of us want your babies.

Every time we enter a room there should just be a scene where Tom and Ruby madly gather up everything they possibly can that's not nailed down or just unmovable. It's the first course of action and it would cut down on a lot of posts.

>>3331497

Wild Mass Guessing. By making enough guesses, one of them is bound to be the right answer.

In this case, Tortimer because he:

A: is the Mayor in animal crossing.
B: has glasses.
C: Has a hunch, hat, and shell on his back that make it feasible for him to fit between Red and Stitches.

>>3331491
>If you don't want to believe that, there's nothing more I can really say that will change your mind.

Next game I will do my best to kill off Tom, just to test this theory.

I do have a serious question though: Was there any way that we could have saved Red? And wtf happened to our delicious "special family" milkshake?

>>3331392

Also, notice the title of the map, and the name of the autor in the right bottom corner.

Weaver is a master of the Mindfuck

>>3331497
Wild mass guessing.

Also: Congrats on self-modding in second thread. At the beggining, it was amazing.

>>3331531
I think the circles are just his glasses. He's looming in shadow and he already has a hunch.

>>3331532
DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH TOM!

>>3331551

yeah, that's part of why I think it's Tortimer.

>>3331396
Now that I looked closer at that thing on the screen I was like "HOLY CRAP THERES A WALRUS IN THIS! AWESOME!"

>>3331396

NO ZOMBIE IS SAFE FROM CHICAGO TED!

>>3331540
in b4 this

>>3331540
I'm sure almost all of the players noticed that and just didn't want to clutter the thread.

>>3331540
This is the least technical technical diagram and the least artistic artist's rendering I've ever seen.

PRE-CONSTRUCTION ARTIST'S RENDERING
W. MURDOCH
AGE 8

>>3331540
Transcript as best as I can manage:

Research and Diagnostic Facility 186-8

"The Metal Glen"
Surface Access --> Land Bridge

Level 1
Living Quarters
Surveillance
Security

Level 2
[Medical?] + Diagnostic
Subject Cells [what Ruby woke up in?]
[test?] Labs

Level 3
Security Waystations
Maintenance + Storage

Man, if Tom has a MANLY PHYSIQUE, then Ace is built like a fucking tank.

>All the characters are named for AC characters and are at least somewhat visually based on them. The coincidence of a patchwork bear named Stitches AND a space-wearing bird named Ace is a bit too strong to simply overlook by itself, and given the origin of these character designs before they were revamped, I'd say the connection is so glaringly obvious you'd have to be blind to miss them.

If that's the case then I think we can already guess who at least one of other cast members is.

Well, it would seem I can't find the comic, but it was a Female Goat called Nan.

Fuck where was that comic?

>>3331613
Did anyone save those Medical Papers from the last thread?

>>3331613

I don't think it's 'Living' quarters, as Living would be visible between the blood splatters. Probably 'Head' or 'Crew'

>>3331622

>>3331621
>Man, if Tom has a MANLY PHYSIQUE, then Ace is built like a fucking tank.
I bet Tom could still take him.
Honestly, Ruby's kicked ass in the heat of an adrenaline-fueled survival rush, albeit with not one but TWO very lethal environmental hazards in her favor.
I bet Tom could take Ace.

And even if he couldn't it'd still be fun to see him try.

>>3331643
Ace is a bird. Hollow fucking bones.

>>3331656
>Ace is a bird. Hollow fucking bones.
HAVE YOU SEEN HOW FUCKING BIG HE IS?
Even SMALL hawks and other birds of prey routinely rip the shit out of housecats.

PLUS ACE IS PROBABLY A HORRIBLE FUCKING MUTANT JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER GODDAMN PERSON IN THIS PLACE

>>3331663
ACE IS YOUR FRIEND! FEAR NOT, LITTLE ONES!

>>3331642

Thanks. That's the one. And by that comic we can assume that if Nan *IS* a monster, were going to have a repeat of the Dog-plant-monster fight as Ruby beats the holyfuck out of her/it.

>>3331663
Ace has a large beak, made for ripping and tearing.

Tom has a crowbar, made of very dense metal, made for KNEECAPPING PEOPLE.

According to the poem Ace will cry. He's a pussy.

>>3331684

He also has an extra pair of arms. If he manages to secretly arm these appendages as well, he could end up doing a The O impression on Ace's ass.

>>3330994

>paint it red.jpg

Clever.

>>3331706
Tom finds a PAIR OF MATCHLOCK PISTOLS

>>3331695
>According to the poem Ace will cry. He's a pussy.
Except according to the poem, there are multiple birds. Meaning we could have non-bulky birds who are much more reasonably sized than Ace?

>>3331717

Tiny Derringers for his tiny derringer arms! I LOVE IT.

Besides did we not ask about dual weilding possiblities when we saw those?

>>3331678
Why would Nan be in it? Are you making this assumption based on the comics? There are a bunch of them, some don't even have ruby in them. That's not a very strong argument.

I really hope it's not Nan.

>>3331734
I think dual-wielding matchlocks can be forgiven. They're fucking matchlocks, after all.

>>3331742
ELEMENTAL PLANE OF FUCKING TEETH

>>3331727
>Except according to the poem, there are multiple birds.

Like perhaps, the one that Red blew-up when he pulled a Syrus the Virus? Also, we've seen a couple of birds, but only one of them thus far with the Ace of Spades on their clothes.

>>3331746
Is there an archive of these comics?

>>3331761

>Like perhaps, the one that Red blew-up when he pulled a Syrus the Virus?

Confirmed by Weaver to be the same one barging in at the end.

NOT confirmed to be the one with the spadeshirt, however, so multiple birds is still rather plausible.

>>3331746
No, every last one of the CROSSING PALS comics has Ruby in it. They all start with her.

>>3331742
Why is he wearing Louis (Left 4 Dead) clothes?

>>3331780

REEELOADAN!

>>3331778
Watch this, stitches will be subject #10.

>>3331773
He was wearing a slightly different outfit -- the collar was emphasized, too.

My theory is that Ruby's "death" was the definitive turning point for the station, when it went from "everything under control" to "oh god no". That's when everything started to go wrong.
Before that, there was a semblance of normalcy. Hell, in the video, Red shows his teeth, but they're REASONABLY SIZED! Look, his mouth doesn't even extend very far at all!
It's possible Back then Ace just wore a different suit than he does now.
Also it's very likely he's a horrible abomination against God now.

>>3331773
wait wat? Read that to yourself again please.

>>3331778
Do you have them all? The one I posted only had player 1 in it.

>>3331780
"GRABBIN; PEEEALZ!" I saw that too.

>>3331809
>Watch this, stitches will be subject #10.
Already confirmed as Subject #1.

>>3331810
>Do you have them all? The one I posted only had player 1 in it.
CROSSING PALS is a specific series, not the same thing as the Player 1 strips.

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>>3331813
The area where stitches was pinned was different too.

This is so much like the Cube movies.

I fucking hate those movies. They creep me out and most of all piss me off with their sadistic death traps. I remember that all of those trapped inside the cube (which is also underwater) AND they all volunteered to enter the project. Some volunteered unvolontarily, but eh.

>>3331978
>the cube (which is also underwater) AND they all volunteered to enter the project
That's only true in Cube Zero, the weakest of the three Cube movies.

Originally, though they leave it intentionally ambiguous, the first Cube movie was made with the intention that the Cube was an extraterrestrial device -- some kind of alien's test, or trap.

>>3332017
cube was the only good one out of that, cube 2 was incredibly shit, cube 0 was more compelling to me.

>>3332064
>cube was the only good one
I can agree with that.

To all the people screaming railroading, this is NOT a role-playing game.
there are MULTIPLE people saying what to do, Weaver will of course choose the action that's the one that will advance the plot.
Weaver is trying to keep this as interesting as possible for everyone involved, if the main cast dies, it won't be overly interesting, now will it ?

Frankly, I'm disgusted by your sense of entitlement, "wawawa, I'm not deciding every action.", FUCK YOU

So, the computer game version of this I'm working on.

Do you guys want voices, or do you think it's better with just good old text above heads?

Theory: In Weaver's official cast lineup (OP's pic), there's room for a total of seven characters, and we know Ruby is test subject #7, so it's reasonable to infer the others' numbers.
Whatever the hell this facility is trying to do, they've been slowly getting better at it: #2 (Stitches) is a walking freakshow and #4 (Red) has severe psychosis and INFINITE PLANE OF TEETH, but #5 is just unusually oversized, Tom has the relatively minor affliction of an extra pair of arms, and Ruby was perfectly normal for a little while. And even now her mutation is easily concealed.

Judging by this, #1 would logically be the most seriously fucked up. I bet it resembles a shoggoth.

>>3332091

Settle down buster-boy. We're not going after your beloved Weaver, nor his habits. It's a genuinely interesting plot. All we're doing is pointing out that it's more us listening to Weaver tell a story than participating in an RPG, which you agreed to, so there's no problem.

If the main cast dies, then Weaver improvises, as any good DM should. Or maybe just BAD END, CONTINUE Y/N.

Pop some Valium and calm down a bit please.

>>3332239

#1 is Stitches. Ace is not a test subject.

Read the threads.

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