In before redwall sues the fuck outta them. Also. Furries.

>>3122651
didn't happen with the comics.
besides, Brian Jacques seems like a pretty chill guy.

EPIC MOUSE VIKING DEATH

>>3122663
Don't you mean a pretty chill racist that loves food?

>>3122685
Fucking Vermin.
and WHO DOESN'T LOVE FOOD?

>>3122691
Anorexics?

>>3122694
Deep man, deep.

>>3122691
The food loving part isn't bad at all, I'm just saying you're leaving something out.

Now the racist... let's just change that to possible racist or closet racist.

>>3122697
I try, I try.

Racist? Huh?

>>3122711
ALL VERMIN ARE EVIL.
THEY ARE EVIL BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT AND ARE ALL EVIL NO MATTER WHAT.

Mouse Guard puts Redwall to shame. :)

>>3122714
Meh, gotta have an enemy. Nobody saw any overtones in the hyenas from The Lion King being entirely batshit.

What is this 'Redwall' of which you speak, hmm?

>>3122744
A book series about xenophobia.

THIS IS THE BEST RP, EVER MADE.

>>3122748
Is it worth looking into? I enjoyed Mouse Guard, if that helps.

>>3122768
Yeah. They're good books, but they'll all start to run together if you read too many. It gets annoying trying to remember which charismatic protagonist led which outnumbered militia against the evil power du jour.

>>3122768
It's aimed towards children so you won't find anything "hardcore" in it. Mouse Guard is more violent than the Redwall series, which is full of positive morals and values. It's fun stuff to read while you're younger, but older readers may not enjoy it.

a screenie from one of the Mouse Guard comics. It's really good stuff. Check them out.

and these really nice figures. *drools*

I've read some in the PDF, If I ever find this in a store I am gonna buy it at an instance.

World of Darkness, your overcomplicated rules can go FUCK them self. This book got what I need, interesting facts about stuff I can actively use in game and relevant background fact. Not any asslame shit that no one won't ever use anyway. FUCK YEAH~~ new favorite RP

So the furfags are trying to implant their shit in /tg/ again?

SAGE, for all that's holy!

>>3122829
oh you.

>>3122829

Wait, how is talking mice who kills stuff furfaggotry? Go learn wtf furfags IS.

>>3122821
Holy shit, those are awesome! Where the fuck can I get some!?

>>3122856

Temporary sold out on the sites I checked...

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=DC41000

or

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=1377

or

ebay maybe? good luck.

< this is furry.

Mouse Guard is not furry.

The more you know.

>>3122886
I hate that argument.
However, I can understand the logic behind it, though I will never agree to it.

>>3122902
Furry is sexualisation of anthromorphs. i.e. Antromorph porn.

Mouse Guard, Wind in the Willows, etc are not antromorph porn so GTFO

>>3122902
Its not so much a matter of furry/not furry, so much as bad furry and tolerable furry.

>>3122908
Now this explanation of it I can get behind.

>>3122907
This, not so much, as I will be stubborn and continue to use the, according to you all, old definition of furry.

>>3122886
...Why do you have this shit with you?

Another day, another "LOL IS IT FURRY GUYS IS IT FURRY CAN I LIKE IS IT SAFE I SEE SOME FUR IS IT FURRY" debate. You can't have your own likes and dislikes, people on the internet decide them for you.

># Do not post the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry"), grotesque ("guro"), or loli/shota pornography.

>anthropomorphic ("furry")

Furry fandom (also known as furrydom, furridom, fur fandom or furdom) refers to the fandom for fictional anthropomorphic animal characters with human personalities and characteristics.[1]Examples of anthropomorphic attributes include exhibiting human intelligence and facial expressions, the ability to speak, walk on two legs, and wear clothes. Furry fandom is also used to refer to the community of artists, writers, role players and general fans of the furry art forms who gather on the net and at conventions.[2][3]

Furry is NOT the same as fable-characterse .. fucking retards

Seriosuly

>>3122886
WHAT IS THAT BULGE IN HER PANTS?

>>3122947
Its an enormous penis.
That should be obvious by the "(c) Doug Winger"

>>3122931

Here's the way it should be read:
>anthropomorphic ("furry") pornography
>grotesque ("guro") pornography
>loli/shota pornography

Here's the way you retarded trollfags read it:
>anthropomorphic ("furry"),
>grotesque ("guro")
>loli/shota pornography.

IF YOU SAW AN AD FOR "CAR, GUN, AND SPORTS MAGAZINES" WOULD YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE SELLING CARS AND GUNS AND SPORTS MAGAZINES OR CAR MAGAZINES AND GUN MAGAZINES AND SPORTS MAGAZINES

>>3122958
Yes goddammit this.

Also, according to that definition of furry bugs bunny and a shitton of other innocuous shit is furry too. If you want to be logical by any stretch you either need to adapt a new definition or stop raging about furry in the first place.

love this comic

OP you are a god and a saint. If only you weren't a namefag, but since you are I hate you and I wish you'd die.

the system is very much to a indie press rpg called Burning Wheel. i like burning wheel so ill try and run this one with my group

>>3122951
>That should be obvious by the "(c) Doug Winger"
The name means nothing to me. I have little to no knowledge of the furry art community.

>>3122828
I prefer WoD to this kiddy bullshit anyday. Go fuck yourself tripfag you're probably a fucking 12 year old underage b&.

>>3122991
he's gone beyond the "furry art community," friend.

Thank you OP.

>>3122998

Because I think its charmy? Fuck you aswell, I play a load of horror and generally grim settings as well as eventually this. World of Darkness is a game I play often, and while I like the setting, I think the books needs to go SHOOT themself.

Rat was here
Mouse is Loser

>>3123023

Mathias drops a fucking bell on someone at the end of one book.

Ps. Long Patrol ftw.

>>3123023
Protip: There is a sick, fat bastard in a greasy [weird costume] out there who faps over the thoughts of fucking [Everything and anything you've ever loved]. Get over it and enjoy the things you enjoy, because they are awesome.

>>3123061

Boar the Fighter's rage unto death in Mossflower is so epicly badass.

>>3122673
Are...are those mice beating down a dragon? My god, I must play this.

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>>3123104
Don't bother, it sort of screwed up when it came out; it's supposed to be a cat looking at a computer, sweating profusely.

>>3123069
Wasn't he the one wearing spiked armor who grabbed the enemy leader in a bear hug and crushed him as the rest of the enemy army hacked him to bits?

You know, the fucking internet drama aside, this is a seriously fantastic RPG. You don't even have to like the material it's based on - read the Conflicts section. This shit is GOLD. As a generic fantasy RPG rules base it whips ass on anything I've seen before.

Redwall was good until I realized it was the same book with different covers.


Still, the first few were badass.

>>3123129
>>3123118

So fucking badass.

Some wizened old warrior who dies destroying a ship full of corsairs.

>>3123201

I say everything before Pearls of Lutra is gold.

The Long Patrol can be added in, just for sheer hare awesomeness.

if any of you fa/tg/uys are interested, the game designer for this made Burning Wheel. a fantasy RPG more based off of Tollkens works with the same type of system. exellent stuff

>>3123249
I honestly think this is a better RPG than Burning Wheel.

>>3122828
What the hell? How is WoD at all complicated? Durr hurr stat + skill + equipment + modifiers? = dice pool. You work off of a system of fives and tens. D&D is more complicated than WoD.

>>3123252

How so? For once I'm actually curious instead of willing to curbstomp the first person to say anything at all. I downloaded this, but haven't read yet. So why do you think this is better?

>>3123254
How is d20+Bonus>DC more difficult than stat + skill + equipment + modifiers? = dice pool ? Just asking..

>>3122828

Meh, WoD doesn't have overcomplicated rules, but the 100+ pages of SRS BSNS fluff at the start of the Vampire: The Requiem book made me want to shoot myself.

>>3123023
FINNBARRRRRRRRRR GALEDEEEEEEEEEEP

That book also had the single example of a good vermin dude, that corsair stoat who made the boats.

>>3123061
The first book, no less. On Cluny the Scourge, still the best bad guy in the series.

I miss this series from when I was a kid, but I had to agree with >>3123210, Pearls was shit and I can only assume that they got worse from there.

Page 19. Oh boy. WH40k has "for the greater good." But Mouse Guard has "serve the GREATEST good."

Hardcore, man.

>>3122685
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/bargain-book-bin-3.php
yes, that's it.

>>3123254

The rules aren't complicated (I suppose I wrote it weird), but the books are OVER complicated.

>>3123275
What he said

>>3123271
Except that no matter what the players decide to do, they can't get stripped of their abilities for picking what the GM deems the "wrong" way to go about things.

>>3123252
>>3123261
Open your pdf and go to page 96. Read up to page 126. It is GOLD, and has changed my perception of Luke Crane completely. I am going to purchase one, perhaps two copies of this book.

>>3123319

A question, if I may. The nature, as I see it, works like a skill or an attribute, only it can be used in more than one way. Is this correct?

Predators are always evil in Mouse Guard. It must be racist.

Holy crap. I've been waiting forever for this thing.

Is the link real?

>>3123513

Totally

>>3123431
>>3123513
Yes to both of you.

>>3123473
Speciest, actually. And it is--the Guard Code thing mentions "protecting our species"

>>3122915
Because maybe he likes it? Or because maybe he can so effectively use it to troll the likes of you?

Mouse Guard is a strange and hostile world where absolutely everything other than you is a monster.

Can mice and other sentient critters even communicate?

>Another day, another "LOL IS IT FURRY GUYS IS IT FURRY CAN I LIKE IS IT SAFE I SEE SOME FUR IS IT FURRY" debate. You can't have your own likes and dislikes, people on the internet decide them for you.

Quoted for truth.

>>3123612

So yeah, seems very, very solid. Plenty of very good rules. Hell, it doesn't even seem to be that hard to use it in a homebrewn setting if you want to. Some changing here and there.
Also, I have to admit that the conflicts are very much simpler now. Not less intresting, just much more simple.

>>3123636
yes, iirc, few cases

>>3123662

Quick addendum:

Although I'd certainly say that the setting has been put into it very well. It's not just a bunch of incorporeal fluff, much of the rules has a lot of the flavor.

I really think there SHOULD be a Redwall RPG.

The Long Patrol is one of my favorites of the latter series, if only for awesome hares, but the earlier stuff is better. Someone in the thread said that Mattimeo is great, and I'd have to fucking agree. The Bellmaker and Mariel of Redwall are also both stellar. Also, Salamandastron.

The later books start to blur together and seem...simplified, somehow, like Jacques is going through the motions. Villains, riddles, feasts, Martin's in a dream...it all happens like clockwork.

Interestingly enough, the FIRST book seems out of place too, since it refers to human constructions, like St. Ninian's church and a horse drawn cart that the rats ride in on. The Abbot also name's Martin the Warrior's sword "Ratdeath". None of these things are ever mentioned again.

I miss a magic system, maybe one that made you lose Nature. But just because I want to make it a generic fantasy setting. It's awesome anyway.

I love how everything in this is about little details and things somebody made by hand. That applies doubly to the comic. Even the Black Axe has to dig under the snow in a storm, and harden the snow around the chamber using a candle, and poke a hole for the smoke, and carefully dry wet clothes over the fire, etc.

It's very Dwarf Fortress, in that sense. (Also in the sense that absolutely everything is out to kill you)

>>3123703
Sup.

Shit was so Mouse Fortress.

>>3123721

That was the most awesome picture in the whole book.

Also, slightly surprised that there are no rats in the book. I mean, weasels seem to inhabit a similar place, but still.

>>3123719
Exactly! I mean, I'm sure you could say the same for almost any setting, but there is the potential for HUGE epic stories in Redwall, full of heroics, violence, drama, and all those good things.

I'd run a siege on Salamandastron. The mountain is in between badger lords when an albatross warlord brings his army of terns, gannets, and gulls to turn the cliffs into their new sanctuary.

>>3123754
Well, it's not Redwall. Mouse Guard is less "popular notions of vermin are the enemy" and more "predators and weather are the enemy, any other instance is weird."

skaven much?

>>3123779
Skaven not at all?

>>3123774

It's not that I was thinking Redwall or something. Not even that they have too few enemies. Hell no! I was more surprised because rats are pretty damn common, all things considered. But it sure doensn't take any fun out of the game.

>>3123727

Mouse Fortress? FUND IT!

>>3123779
Your HURRRRRRR DURRRRRRRR is showing.

Fuck yeah, Mouse Guard

>>3123786
Right, and rats (as far as I know) don't usually eat mice.

>>3123773
Oh shit, albatross! Hahah!

That's another thing about Mattimeo. Not only does it have crazy Lovecraftian cultists and hordes of milky-eyed forest savages driven insane somehow, but it also has an army of ravens.

Do squirrels REALLY eat mice?

>>3123834
>>3123821
Both squirrels and rats, in their long association with humanity, have become ultimate opportunists and will eat just about every fucking thing they can get their grubby little claws on.

>>3123834
Squirrels eat anything.

I saw a squirrel eating a squirrel once.

>>3123821

True, rats don't actively hunt mice and such. They are happy to kill and eat a meaty smaller rodent if they see one, but rats are omnivorous and don't really need it. But they do if the opportunity presents itself.

That said, I can see why they went with weasels. Those, on the other hand, are downright nasty bastards and hunt and kill all rodents they see. Except capybara.

>>3123871

YO DAWG I HERD U LIKE SQUIRRELS SO WE PUT A SQUIRREL IN YO SQUIRREL SO U CAN EAT WHILE U EAT

>>3123887
>Those, on the other hand, are downright nasty bastards and hunt and kill all rodents they see. Except capybara.

And you know they'd go after capybara if they had the chance.

Except, in my setting, all the capybara know capoeira.

>>3123871
I am never looking at a squirrel the same way again. That pic is even worse than the HURRR DURRR squirrels.

>>3123906

Hey, the bird knew the risks, and didn't heed them. It's its own fault.

On a sidenote, squirrels have an awesome jaw mechanism that actually locks them from opening until they meet each other. That means that if the damn thing bites you, it will either bite through or die trying.

Weasels are awesome and the natural enemy of mice.

Granting, of course, that these are unbelivably hardcore ultra-mice who can somehow stand up to Weasels, who are long and thin for the same reason Iowa-class battleships have flat sides.

>>3123678
The Lynx Emperor had a harem of housecats. And all of his minions at one pointed talked about his divine God which cared for his ancestors, and crushed all opposition.

I missed the early days when they were dungeon crawling through human wreckage before it got retcon'd to shit. Also, is it me or are the Pike in Redwall on par with the Carp from Dorf Fortress?

>>3123923
Hey, pike are fucking vicious fish...es...

>>3123908
Then how do they carry things in their mouth without destroying them?

BATTLEMICE AT THE ENEMY

GIVE IT EVERYTHING

>>3123910
>>Granting, of course, that these are unbelivably hardcore ultra-mice who can somehow stand up to Weasels
Weapons. Equalizing people since the day someone picked up a rock.

>>3123871
I'm shit scared of squirrels.
Seriously, one time, I walked home. Squirrel suddenly skittered around the tree and stared at me. I walked past. Next tree, the same thing. There were no more trees - there was only a bin ahead. So, I walked past the bin.

Motherfucking squirrel jumped out at me.

They're the new fucking rats. I see squirrels walking along with half-eaten sandwiches, slices of pizza, anything they can get their hands on.

>>3123939
The weasels, you will note, have weapons and armor too.

Look at >>3123721
It's carrying mice-sized weapons as trophies. Look how small they are compared to his.

As >>3123910 said, weasels are shaped the way they are so they can fit inside mouse-sized burrows despite being much larger than them.

>>3123942
My roommate and I were smoking a joint in a park once when we realized we had been surrounded by squirrels. We promptly roached the joint and hauled ass. IIRC a swarm of squirrels tore a dog to pieces in Russia.

>>3123938
SCIENCE

>>3123938

Oh god, the idea of two thousand armed mice fighting a bear.

It's glorious.

>>3123938
>"Five steps higher—wolves, etc.—require 2,000
mice. A war with an animal six steps higher on
the Natural Order scale—bears and moose—
requires 20,000 mice."

Jesus. Good luck with that.

>>3123932

They don't bite down on them with all their strenght. When they bite something to hurt it, they do. That's what makes the jaws lock.

>>3123942
>They're the new fucking rats. I see squirrels walking along with half-eaten sandwiches, slices of pizza, anything they can get their hands on.

http://www.scientificblogging.com/redneck_genetics/no_acorns_apocalypse

This year had the smallest acorn crop on record. The majority of squirrels will die before this winter is out - tens of millions of them.

>>3123970
BLIND THE BEAR WITH SCIENCE

>>3123969
>My roommate and I were smoking a joint in a park once when we realized we had been surrounded by squirrels. We promptly roached the joint and hauled ass.

They just wanted a hit of that.

>>3122931
Mice using swords and forming kingdoms IS anthro, fucker.

God, now I want to make a sciencemouse who captures bears.

>>3123985
My cat totally comes around whenever he smells pot smoke. I think mammals are smart enough to learn to like the second hand high.

>>3124006
And indeed, you should.

>>3124006
Capturing bears would be a Ob 12 resources check, if I am correct...

That means that you have to get twelve Resource successes - I don't think there's any mouse motherfucking alive with a Resource above 10, which means a maximum of 10 successes.

Capturing bears is impossible without allied help.

Do you know why they call it Mouse Guard?

[spoiler]Because they're all guards and one mouse.[/spoiler]

This is a finely-crafted steel axe. It is ringed with bands of squirrel leather. On the item is an image of swords.

You're not going to have just one mouse capturing a bear. Doing big things is an epic undertaking, and you're not playing Exalted. You're not even playing Bunnies and Burrows. You're all a bunch of mice. With swords. You're not going to capture a bear. You're going to be part of a massive, multi-fortress effort to stop it from rampaging around, clawing open forts and eating the mice (and honey) inside.

You're not going to have just one mouse capturing a bear. Doing big things is an epic undertaking, and you're not playing Exalted. You're not even playing Bunnies and Burrows. You're all a bunch of mice. With swords. You're not going to capture a bear. You're going to be part of a massive, multi-fortress effort to stop it from rampaging around, clawing open forts and eating the mice (and honey) inside.

It'll either be an epic-scale ewok affair, or a bear running around with fifty thousand tiny arrows sticking out of it.

Oh hi don't mind me, I just skin my insubordinates alive and kill overpowered badgers single-handedly and very nearly take over the main stronghold of a bunch of militaristics.

>>3123802
>>3123727
>>3123703
>>3123923
>>3124056
Okay faggots, modder here - consider Mouse Guard/Redwall DF mod in the works

>>3124114
Mouse Guard Fortress makes way more sense.

Open up the OP's link, or read the comics. The mice are rather DF. They use tons of neat hand-crafted everything, have tons and tons of craftsmen of every kind, and generally live in fortresses, with caravans sent from place to place.

Also, they have no magic, but are nevertheless able to fight off creatures vastly larger than themselves using legendary fighters and/or siege mechanics.

>>3124114
>>3124136
But Redwall Fortress gives you more options for species for your side.

The main trouble of making Mouse Fortress would be the scale of it.

Trees would need to be replaced, for example. Trees wouldn't be one-square things. They'd be huge pillars, one or two to a map. You'd burrow into them the same way you mine into the earth. I don't think you can mod that.

>>3124136
I've been looking it over. I was actually thinking about Mouse Guard Fortress before someone else posted it. It'll mainly be Mouse Guard with different race elements from Redwall universe thrown in. That way we can have generic rat enemies along with more dangerous weasels, with badger allies and hares.

>>3124151
You generally dont get allies in DF unless you count caravan guards.

>>3124056
Accept no substitutes.

Yes, I'm aware of the irony.

>>3124153
I'll just rename trees to fallen sticks and twigs of that tree type.

DF modding is full of workarounds like this. The next DF release will allow even more modding.

>>3124155

>>With badger allies and hares.
>>Badger allies

NO.

>>3124151
>But Redwall Fortress gives you more options for species for your side.

Why is this a plus?

Modder here: Democracy has spoken - So general consensus is Mice only against a horde of unforgiving enemies larger than them?
Final destination.

>>3124173
Okay, maybe not, then.

How about Salamandastron Fortress? Digging out the volcano with your hares. One badger lord giving orders...

>>3124177
I think it's because most of us are the more unrelenting, Boatmurdered-type DF players. The kind who were disappointed when Elephants were patched to be more docile.

On the other hand, Redwall Fortress would certainly allow for a much wider variety of Lavish Cake and Legendary Meat Bread.

D'you reckon Celanawe could be statted? Or is he too badass for that?

Personally speaking: Mouse Guard is awesome. DF is awesome. I've never read anything about Redwall but it doesn't sound as cool.

>>3124193
I know. Thank Armok for carp, seriously.

the books went to shit after a while.

>>3124186
>Okay, maybe not, then.

I was just asking a question. WOULD it make it better? If so, how?

I've never read any redwall.

>>3124223
Indeed. Jacques just got older and a bit stuck in the formula.

>>3123985
We've decided that they were going to mug us, because apparently all of Toronto's squirrels are crackheads.

>>3124193
>Legendary Meat Bread.

!

>>3124229
Possibly. Redwall revolves around the titular abbey, a massive red-stone house for mice, squirrels, moles, otters, and the occasional other good woodland creature. It's a peaceful place where they raise their kids and just live their lives.

Often in the history of Redwall, bands of vermin (rats, stoats, weasels, foxes, and other "evil" animals) have tried to take the place away from them for one reason or another.

That's over-simplifying things, naturally. There's a bit more history to the setting. But I could see the fun in having your all-around-average mice that are backed up by squirrels that a good at climbing and moles who can dig tunnels and otters who can fight in the water...

Sounds way too specialist for the dwarf fortress engine.

I mean, forts typically only have like, 100 dorfs tops. Might get awkward if that's split between five or six species.

Plus Mouse Guards are stotic, angry, medieval fellows.

Also: Squirrels are the fucking spawn of Satan.

>>3124299
Yeah you can't have multiple civ fortresses, but trading caravans with guards who help out when you get attacked -

As for stoic, angry, medieval fellows -

http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Personality

I'm sure some of these tokens will apply.

>>3124253
How the hell does a mouse beat a fox?

Or is it like that Mouse Guard page about needing 100 armed, armored mice to beat one?

>>3124354

Try not to think about it. They're heroes or something.

>>3124364
I can buy Celanawe driving a wolf away by jumping on its head and pulling a wire through its mouth.

But a fox that's supposedly smart? With opposable thumbs and armor and a sword twice the size of his opponent? Get the fuck out.

lol Rodentia

>>3124354
>>3124364
Redwall is "less realistic" in that you have stories where heroes attack and defeat forces much larger physically and numerically, while in Mouse Guard the system calls for craftiness or overwhelming with sheer numbers.

Well, is it all anthropomorphic, where a mouse is only a little smaller than a fox so they can have sex?

I mean, uh, shit.

Anyone know what happened to the inked version of this that anon said they where going to make? :]

>>3124423

>>3124409
Dunno, Redwall makes the point that creatures are all different sizes. A cat is big enough to hold a mouse's entire body in its mouth (and does, in one scene). A badger is big enough and strong enough to lift furniture that would take whole teams of big, burly mice just to scrape across the floor (a badger threatens a general of rats while wielding a table). So in that sense, Redwall pays attention to sizes.

>>3124409
No.

>>3124423
NEVER. RODENTIA IS DEAD.

Redwall mice are generally the size of large rats, not the size of actual mice. This is probably so that they actually fight and take down rats and foxes and so on. Everything else is generally normal-sized.

Now, as I have made a character, I NEED A CHARACTER SHEET. WHERE CAN I FIND ONE

In Redwall, Badgers are the bestest.

>>3124148
Holy shit. I read up to where the part where the owl is outside their hole, but the last couple chapters of the winter book aren't on /rs/. Does anyone have a copy they can share?

I know /tg/ is not /r/, but /r/ is shit and this is thread related.

Seeing as the book doesnt go to print till early next year I'm assuming this is a pre-production copy so any mistakes will probably be fixed.

I read a few of the Redwall books as a kid, and I picked up Mouse Guard, I have to say there is little similarity past both being anthropomorphic.

The Redwall books were very set into "these species are evil and these others are good."

Mouse Guard doesn't have that, and seems to have a lot more diversity within its world, it's more realistic with the characters able to advance themselves. In Redwall they were pretty much stuck as whatever they were born into if I remember correctly.

Oh well few more months till my Autumn HC gets some company.

>>3124527
I'm pretty sure all of Winter's not out yet. I'd been looking for it.

>>3124527
last couple chapters aren't made yet, still doing the art and story for them

Im getting this game on my way to work, its going to kick ass

>>3124527
Pic comes from the RPG

>>3124573
Thanks Anon.

Goddam this looks so cute. I like d6's, too, so I think I'll like this.

I've never even fucking heard of mouseguard before.

Tell me moar, /teegee/.

http://www.burningwheel.org/wiki/images/a/ad/MGFillableSheet.pdf
Have fun, /tg/.

>>3124621
more BADASSERY THAN CUTE

>>3124621
To the non-educated, things look cute.
To the educated, things can be -incredibly- badass.

One of my friends ran a Redwall RP using the D&D Freeport rules. We played a crew of vermin pirates. The badger lord had the stat line of a dragon.

Most awesome game I've ever been in.

>>3124661
>>3124682
AWWW

But just LOOK at them! They're so little, and they're saying lolmouse like stuff about grain or something!

Seriously, though. I don't think I can read what they're saying. My brain replaces the words with twittering noises and "i liek grans."

>>3124711
If the dragon didn't butcher you, or die butchering you, or if his son didn't butcher you after you barely killed him, then it wasn't Redwall.

>>3124711
>We played a crew of vermin pirates.

Now THAT sounds cool.

Row row fight the power, etc.

>>3124715
You have to either be a fa/tg/irl or retarded.
Yes, the mice found some fucking grain. Look how badass Saxon is being about it. It's as if it's come out of an action film sequel.

>>3124715
Well, they ARE cute. You've got me there.

I guess I could implore you to scroll up and click on other images in this thread, but I imagine if you were going to do that you'd have done so already.

>>3124711
>The badger lord had the stat line of a dragon.

That probably fits.

Cuteness of Mouse Guard can be commented thusly. Sure, they're cute, they have little button eyes and teeny-weeny wiggly noses. They have big ears and stubby hands and round little bodies. And they even have their own novelty weapons. It's cute.

Then one of them faces a viper, and in his greatest hour of peril, remembers the very reason he grasps the blade in his hand. Without paying a thought for the danger, without hesitating, he leaps and smashes into the dread beast's venomous mouth. And then he punches his sword through its skull and brains from the inside.

Afterwards, the snake is cut open and the mice find the half digested body of the one they were supposed to escort to safety.

>>3124733
>>3124734
Okay, yeah, gray mouse with gray cloak is badass. I should base my generalizations on more than one picture.

Also, I'm sure that my opinion of Saxon's cuteness is a result of me owning a pet mouse that looks like him.

Goddam this game is awesome. Fuck yes shields.

>>3124784
God damn it, I should've given Twitch a shield instead of a bow.

I WILL EAT YOUR FAMILY

>>3124795

Yes. Yes, you should have.

Jesus, read the Denizens chapter. Being a mouse is basically a living Hell.

>>3124813

Pretty much. Nothing, NOTHING is going to cut the mice any slack. And that's why the Guard is doubly awesome.

Changed my name so you can rage at my posts more easily.

Anyway, I read something in there about fur colors and cloak colors, and about cloak colors being based around personality or something. I want to make an albino mouse with a white cloak that runs around overcompensating for his bad eyesight by acting like a paladin. Is there a table for this sort of stupid shit?

I think I'm gonna GM this and make a DMPC with pink fur and a black cloak that gets eaten by a hawk really early on. Just to impart on my players the fact that this is going to be kickass, and that faggots will be summarily executed.

>>3124813
>>3124820
If you stay in your towns and pray a bear doesn't step on it or stay on the road and pray a wolverine doesn't live on it, then you should be okay.

I raged.

>Nothing, NOTHING is going to cut the mice any slack.

Well... maybe not NOTHING.

>>3124840
Traits: Page 256.
I'd say choose either Brave or Compassionate or both if you can.
Go to Page 297 for character creation.

>>3124861
FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU

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>>3124840

Albino mouse isn't a bad idea in itself. Certainly not unrealistic. Could lend itself for some intresting roleplay. Hmh, there might even be a trait. Lessee...

Nope, but certainly can be done.

Are there humans in the world of Mouse Guard?

>>3122702

Everyone is fucking racist.

>Hare
>The hare is a large rabbit. In the summer, his coat is dark brown. In the winter he molts and his fur turns brilliant white with black-tipped white ears. Hares are sapient and peaceful, but they don’t wear much in terms of clothing or use tools or weapons.
>From time to time, hares and mice ally. The hares allow the mice to use them as mounts and are paid for their services in food or manufactured goods.

>>3124895

No. None have been seen, no evidence of their existence... exists. We really hope it stays that way.

>>3124906

Sounds good to me. Having the mice scavenging through the ruins of old human settlements might get boring after a while. Though considering the size of the place you could have something of an adventure there -- an entire colony of sentient creatures exploring a vast building, mistaking it for some sort of bizarre natural formation maybe. Being chased around by a Roomba gone mad over the centuries.

Whoa this has my interest. I remember reading something back then as a kid (...cough*redwall*cough).

How's the RPG system? And is there some place I can get scans of the comic?

194 made me D'AWWW.

Also,
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Bad mouse? Cool armor, though. I'm going to give my mouse that armor.

The only Redwall book I've read is this one.

I enjoyed it, read it again just a couple years ago and it was still a prety good read.

From what your talking about in this thread it seems kind of atypical among the Redwall books though.

Also FUCK YAH MOUSE FORTRIS!

>>3124948
He was a Black Axe impostor who lead an assault on Lockhaven and got his ass handed to him by the real deal, iirc.

>>3124902
HARE MOUNTS, FUCK YEAR

>>3123779

They'r mice, lol. And the Skaven race is based upon independent clan-lairs in an underground system. Not little settlements in the woods.

We don't seem to be able to buy this? Its not released on indie revolution yet.

How the fuck does combat work?