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    363 KB Humans: the Long Lived Race Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:17 No.3098046  
    We always assume that humans would be some short-lived race, our lives a flicker in the eyes of those we meet among the stars. But what if this is not so?

    Picture this: In two hundred years, humanity has invented a form of technology powerful enough to make space travel to far galaxies relatively simple. Wars between the denizens of Earth stopped and the whole world pitched in. Once the technology was complete, each religious faction parted ways with each other to find a destiny without war amongst humanity. After all, the universe is big enough that we don't need to see each other again.

    By this time, medical science and augmentive surgeries have improved vastly. The average human can expect to live for two hundred years, if properly maintained.

    When we find other races, we are shocked to discover how short their lifespans are. On average, most sentient races live for between five and eight years, developing and maturing at an astonishing speed (but able to match us in size, strength etc. depending on the race). They are awed and humbled by our lifespan in comparison.

    Wars between those factions come and go. To us, it may only be a few months or years. To them, it can last most of a lifetime.

    How would humanity feel if this were the case? As a race, would we feel more responsible? Or would we just continue as we had?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:19 No.3098052
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:20 No.3098054
    Are the aliens hot and can I put my penis in them?
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)04:20 No.3098059
    25-50 would be more believable than 5-8. That makes common pets absurdly long lived in comparison.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:21 No.3098061
    Suck if a game got delayed then eh?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:21 No.3098062
    Near-immortal space hippies would sit in their orbital coffee houses sipping their hyperlattes and ranting about how we aren't doing enough to help our evanescent sisters and brothers. Everyone else would proceed as usual.

    Side note: this is how I feel about elves. They're supposed to be so fancy and brilliant, so why do they also live forever? My elves die after three decades or so, and the world is better for it.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:24 No.3098072

    Let's say that the abnormal amounts of bacteria in Earth's atmosphere caused the gene pool of all Earth's inhabitants to strengthen during evolution. As such, most things on Earth are abnormally long lived.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:27 No.3098080
    We'd murder them all for some petty reason. Or at best buy all their land from them for some trivial piece of technology.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:30 No.3098089

    Well, they aren't stupid. Their civilisation has been able to create space-faring vehicles, and some races would be technologically superior to us again, just that they burn out fast.
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)04:31 No.3098093
    That's just going to make them more resistant to certain types of bacteria, but its not like you're going for hard sci-fi or anything.
    As to the premise, there are various sci-fi novels with a similar premise, but they usually are a result of odd time effects.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:32 No.3098097
    War of attrition in out favor!
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:33 No.3098102
    How would that even be possible?

    Four or five generations would have to die before anything could get built.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:35 No.3098106
    some retarted duty-obsessed culture?
    " I will complete my Fathers fathers fathers legacy! It is my Duty!"
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:36 No.3098107
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:37 No.3098111

    oh u
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:40 No.3098120
    Perhaps they are a hive species. Not like a hive mind, but a collective dealie.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:45 No.3098134
    Maybe, but it seems strange that they would even start a project knowing they'd never complete it.

    But then, few human projects really take that long. It'd take all the productive years(6?) out of an aliens life to make something, and that'd be his life's work. Works fine to me.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:45 No.3098135
    Space Elves are boring.
    >> Emo_Duck !ofC/MoKSRs 12/02/08(Tue)04:45 No.3098136

    All the other species are really tiny. Longevity does seem to go hand in hand with body size on Earth, at least.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:47 No.3098140
    If most of their lives are spent working on big projects then does that leave out philosophy, art and culture?

    Since they're so busy I doubt they'd have time for shit like that.
    >> Emo_Duck !ofC/MoKSRs 12/02/08(Tue)04:47 No.3098141

    Drawing the elf analogy, that seems rather fitting...
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)04:49 No.3098143
    They'd probably use slave labor, or some caste system.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)04:56 No.3098154
    One of two things:
    1. Because they mature so quickly, they can vastly out breed us, even if we can safely have children at 12 in those times. We get waaughed.

    2. They become butthurt at their short lives and strive to either become immortal or kill us off. We get flayed.

    Although more likely, some less ethical humans will capture them and use these quickly reproducing, but every bit as strong, species as a vast army of troops.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:02 No.3098169
    >Maybe, but it seems strange that they would even start a project knowing they'd never complete it.
    Medieval cathedrals; those things took centuries to build, yet (almost) everyone considers it an honor to build them.

    Still though, 5-8 is WAY too short, say, 25-30. with humans living 500+ would be more like it.
    Seriously, with the way things are going, I'd say we'd be living into the 200's within 2 or 3 generations.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:04 No.3098174
    >Because they mature so quickly, they can vastly out breed us, even if we can safely have children at 12 in those times. We get waaughed.

    Infect them with aids.

    Problem solved.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:08 No.3098181
    Speaking of infecting them, if they reproduce/die so quickly, would they develop resistances to things within just a few of our years unless it completely wiped them out? It'd be easy to breed traits into them at least.
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)05:11 No.3098186
    It counts on how much of the population is exposed, and how many are resistant or immune already.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:12 No.3098189
    The vital register at the side of Weeber's bed dims slightly as another fit of coughs wracks his emaciated frame. He hasn't got long left.
    You sit in your bedside chair, and pour some water for your old friend as the fit dies down. Growling slightly, the Hlabtu waves the glass away.
    "The time is almost upon me... I see the great empty open before me." Weeber rasps. It pains you to see him at the end of his life. The insectoid's carapace hangs loosely, like kevlar over a skeleton. His opal streaked chest barely rises and falls, and his feelers are flat against his head. Staring at you through half-closed green eyes, he touches the electro-clasp on the side of the pendant which he has worn around his neck all his life.
    "Here... it belongs to my son now..." You take the pendant and hold it reverently.
    "This is the fifth time I have held this." you intone sadly. Weeber nods.
    "That's right... you knew my great-great grandfather... so long, you have watched over our clan..." His eyes become lucid for a moment. "What's it like, to live for so long?"
    You ponder the question a moment, before answering. "Terrible... and beautiful."
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:12 No.3098190
    Weeber accepts the explanation, leaning back in his bed. "My son, Kasen... make sure he becomes a strong leader for the clan... help him find a heart-share early on... if he dies without young, our clan is wiped from the universe..."
    You nod. "I will. That's a promise."
    The vital display fades again, barely alight now. Weeber's voice is barely a whisper. "Did you... ever find ... a heart-share... of your own?"
    You shake your head, replying quietly. "Not yet. I'm only forty-one."
    A rasping chime sounds, the array of lights winking out one by one until the board is barren. Patting a hand on Weeber's shoulder, you sigh sadly as you stand.
    "Travel well, my friend." you say in Hlabath as you exit the room, now shrouded in darkness as the hab lights detect no life within.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:12 No.3098191
    ITT Humans become elves.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:16 No.3098194

    Indifference, sex, and technical analysis. All in the first 3 posts. I love you /tg/.
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)05:16 No.3098197
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    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:17 No.3098198
    Outside the hab room, Kasen sits on a chair wearing a pair of human Denim jeans alone. He is eight months old now, and has grown much since you last saw him at his mother's passing barely two months ago. Roughly the same height as you, his muscular chest ripples underneath red carapace plates, already opaled a deep lapis.
    As you emerge he looks up, immediately seeing the clan leader pendant his father wore all his life. Immediately his feelers droop in grief, blazing red eyes half closed. Walking to him, you put an arm on his shoulder consolatively before giving the symbol to him. Staring down at the trinket in his padded hand for a moment, he puts it on and activates the electro-clasp before looking over to you.
    "He will recieve a human space burial." you reassure Kasen, a quiet nod returned before you walk towards the exit, Hlabtu walking beside you as the corridor behind you shuts down.

    Soon, too soon, Kasen will die. As will his children, and their children. In a way, watching them die is your curse. You sometimes wish that they hadn't saved you from the Garthah conflict and adopted you as Clansman. The gift is too much to bear, at times like this.
    But you have seen much, and learned more. From the sideline you watched as a bloodline took it's first baby steps into the unknown of space, watching them become hardened voidfarers through the generations as they come and go. Each looks up to you for advice, as oldest member of the clan. To them, you have been around since the beginning of all. In reality you have barely even changed in appearance, but in resolve and purpose you remain as resolute as the day you pledged to watch over them.
    Where they go, you will be there, guiding with a soft hand. Until even you must make the journey across your own astra, and explore the great unknown of death.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:18 No.3098203
    >"Not yet. I'm only forty-one."

    Oh, anon.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:20 No.3098207
    Time Enough For Love?
    Reminds me of the chapter "Tale of the Adopted Daughter" from that book ;_;
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)05:22 No.3098211
    Never read it to be honest. I've never really been all that into Heinlein.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:23 No.3098217
    A new environmental condition doesn't always lead to evolution, more often than not it can lead to extinction.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:29 No.3098234

    Did anyone else read this and think that if Kasen could live as long as any other force user that he would make one kick arse Jedi?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:33 No.3098247
    His best book IMO (of the ones I've read so far... I think I read most of his famous ones)
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)05:37 No.3098257
    The last one I read was the Cat Who Walks Through Walls.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:38 No.3098262


    Neotenous race of catpeople. Finally in space we may enjoy centuries of catloli maids, generation after generation, until serving us is their entire clan's reason for being.
    >> Not OP 12/02/08(Tue)05:39 No.3098270
    In the far far future...

    Thousands of years ago a great breakthrough in the fields of AI, genetics and surgery led to the start of a controlled human breeding project that, centuries later, led to the development of a new and improved human race. Now the average human being grows to nearly 3m tall, lives for up to 250 years in organic form or indefinitely if imprinted into a neuron network.

    About a hundred years ago the first FTL drive has been constructed and a series of unmanned probes was sent into the galaxy.

    Today we know there are 37 alien races in our direct vicinity. Puny little short lived creatures that have at best barely started space exploration.

    Tomorrow the first human colony ship Prometheus will begin it's voyage to the nearest inhabitable planet. Fuck you aliens, we need that world more than you do, so say hello to your new towering and immortal overlords.

    (You know it would look JUST like that.)
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:44 No.3098282
    I dunno; when I get a little freaked out when concepts like multiverse and time travel enters my fiction (and non-fiction)...
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:46 No.3098290
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    Personally, I see massive corporations running things in the far future...
    Think, Weyland-Yutani...
    >> Unholy Clown Ninja Maid Anonymous, tl;dr Xom's Champion !!0aKrfPDoCW4 12/02/08(Tue)05:47 No.3098293
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    It was a bizarre book, and it pretty much crapped out towards the end.
    Oh well, it's almost 6 in the morning over here as it is.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:47 No.3098294
    I guess it would depend on what group of humans came in to contact with them. They could be welcomed to human society or be deemed in the way of human supremacy and eliminated, depending on the views of the humans.
    >> Not OP 12/02/08(Tue)05:49 No.3098298
    Most likely.
    And planets = resources and customers.
    How would we NOT want to lay our transhuman manipulator appendages on it?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:49 No.3098300
    >the average human being grows to nearly 3m
    I hope you got 10harts.
    >> Not OP 12/02/08(Tue)05:56 No.3098317
    We had animals on earth MUCH larger than that and MUCH more active than a human, why would a creature only 3m high need that many hearts? I mean even without the improved blood, synthetic optimal air and other shit we'd probably develop before that a 3m high biped is completely plausible.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)05:57 No.3098321

    What? He said humans live to 200 now, so he'd only be equivalent of 20-22 anyway.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:02 No.3098333
    No he'd be a 41 year old virgin. No one said humans mature any slower, just that they live longer in general, most of which would be in adulthood area that you rest in between 25 and 55.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:06 No.3098346
    Some of the races would propably see humanity as some sort of gods.
    >> Not OP 12/02/08(Tue)06:11 No.3098356
    Suddenly: reverse-StarGate.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:11 No.3098357
    I've always wondered what aliens would think of us.

    Too political maybe?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:14 No.3098368

    oh, wait...

    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:15 No.3098374
    So, how about some average ages for creatures living on Earth?

    Humans live around 60 on average, maybe. More if you live in a real country and not some african hellhole, where the average age is less than 30.

    What about whales? Bears? Bees? Tuna?

    I know some turtles can live for hundreds of years, what about other animals?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:15 No.3098377
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    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:15 No.3098379
    Visit /x/ sometime. lol.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:16 No.3098381
    >> Not OP 12/02/08(Tue)06:17 No.3098383
    Humanity didn't overthrow Goaulds (or how were they called) a different alien race did it for us.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:20 No.3098389

    there's a type of jellyfish which is technically immortal

    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:23 No.3098394
    If their lives were that short, they'd either have to learn absurdly fast, or be some kind of hive mind. otherwise they'd have to get a self improving AI online and have that do everything too advanced to learn in a lifetime. maybe base a religion around this AI vastly more powerful than any of them could ever be.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:30 No.3098402

    That sounds disturbingly familiar...
    >> !VRUz/SHOTA 12/02/08(Tue)06:36 No.3098426
    life expectancy in sierra leone is 27

    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:40 No.3098431
    Bullometer is going crazy.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:41 No.3098438
    Technically, the Replicators just massacred their loyal armies, devastated their fleets and ravaged vast sections of their territories. Then humanity obliterated the Replicators.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:43 No.3098442
    I admit that I did not watch all the SG1 episodes but...
    Wasn't it something like Asgards kicked Goaulds from Earth, Replicators later on forced Asgards to leave Earth?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:48 No.3098451

    The years pass, generations blinking past almost in a blur. The clan grown, eventually becoming a renown line of starfighter pilots, hired to protect trader ships. Your body is not immune to the passage of time, and slowly the surgeries become less effective.

    You lay in a hospital bed, a glowing health monitor casting a dull vibrance across the room. Holding your hand is Lokath, the leader of the Clan. She is the last of the clan leaders who will see you alive, the person who will stay and see you off.

    You crack a weak smile, seeing tears form at the corners of her honey coloured eyes. "Don't cry on my account. I don't fear death. For close to forty generations I've watched the clan, back into antiquity. I was never going to stay around forever..."

    Lokath nods sadly, clasping her hands in your own. "You have done so much for us all... we are lost without you."
    "Lost?" you ask hoarsely, raising an eyebrow. "Look around you. Wherever the stars shine, you are home. The void is your claim now, and within it's embrace you will never be lost."
    The young female Hlabtu laughs despite her tears. Inside you feel warm, glad that you could break the mood.

    Things get hazy. The room starts to shimmer along the edges, as if it would come apart if you breathed too hard. The spectrum on the wall beside you starts fading, and Lokath draws close. "Before you go, this humble Clanswoman would like-"
    "SUCK IT!"

    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:50 No.3098456
    with the help of ba'al, who himself somehow lived through 5 other villains reigns.

    fuck, Ba'al was awesome.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:52 No.3098462
    that's really not it at all.
    or even close.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:55 No.3098470
    The Asgard had a treaty with the Goa'uld wherein Earth was protected, along with a few other planets. Until then, the Asgard had a massive military superiority over the Goa'uld in terms of technology.

    Then the Replicators invaded Asgard space and raped the Asgard sixteen different ways. The Asgard tried repeatedly to stop them and failed.

    The Goa'uld took advantage of this by fucking over the galaxy.

    Then the Replicators came to the Milky Way to kill everything and destroy the ancient weapon.

    Basically, humanity (with Ba'al's help) stopped the only thing capable of making mincemeat out of the Goa'uld, the Asgard and every other big advanced species we know of.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)06:55 No.3098473
    PS: The Ori do not exist.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)07:01 No.3098485
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    >> Dr. Baron von Evilsatan 12/02/08(Tue)07:26 No.3098510
    If you really want to get some perspective on what relative immortality feels like and how it affects your worldview, check out the Thousand Years of Dreams from Lost Odyssey. I can't for the life of me find the video files to download, so you'll have to rent the game or something. It's well worth it.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)07:49 No.3098554

    Once again, Anon proves himself a real dick. That story was gold, it didn't deserve that ;_;
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)08:52 No.3098652
    just call them tau and get over it
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)09:02 No.3098678
    What are you talking about?
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)09:10 No.3098701
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)15:49 No.3100336
    In the galactic center novels, humans have been reengineered to just grow bigger and stronger rather than aging.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)15:54 No.3100368
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    Looking pretty **SPARKLES** there, future human.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)17:47 No.3101029
    What was that one short story where aliens from across the galaxy see us now and decide to wipe out our primitive and barbaric race before we get to space? They launch some huge mass-driver that can't be stopped. Then we get our shit together and the aliens realize that they're going to kill one of the most promising races in the galaxy. Earth explodes. After the remnants of humanity get back on their feet, the remaining humans send them the message: We are coming for you. And we will show you the mercy that you showed us.

    I know I liked it.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)17:55 No.3101053
    They did this in Mass Effect. There was of course a race among their aliens that had a silly-long lifespan but on the whole most aliens lived about as long as humans or just a bit longer. Solarians, though, only lived till about 30 if I remember correctly. It was interesting to see how they were portrayed. I love that game.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)18:44 No.3101364
    I would like more information on these elves. Do they become more warlike/righteous ("the deaths of 120 faelings can't be atoned!") or cunning/arrogant/industrious (" Your father trained you, i was trained by 15 of my contemporaries to end beings like you. Thread lightly") or maybe savant/outgoing ("How will we know the spiritworld exists if no one comes back alive to tell the tale, or is it you're afraid of not-yet-dying?").
    >> Phobonaut !tTBC.7oEaQ 12/02/08(Tue)18:56 No.3101435
    Why 200 years?

    Why not immortals?

    Like... Planescape in Space.
    >> Anonymous 12/02/08(Tue)19:06 No.3101487

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