First, Rule of Cool.

Second, YES! THIS! THIS A BILLION BILLION BILLION TIMES!

The skull is a lich'd elder brain and the rest are alhoon.

Demi-liches are the lich's lich. Considering most lich's are anti-social the chances of getting 206 demi-lich's to agree to this is more remote than of you getting laid.

The thing could also fly in the sky and cast down 206 empowered missile storms.

>>3060768
Rary's Telepathic Bond solves the communication problem.

I remember this thread. I think the conclusion was like what >>3060789 said. It's not feasible that demi-liches would band together in this manner.

What if such a concentration of arcane and unholy magic mutated or somehow fucked with the minds/souls of all the liches, forming them all into one superconsciousness, capable of untold magical power?

I, for one, welcome our Bone Overlord.

Then, they could craft skin (or an extremely powerful illusion on top), and walk amongst people as an uber-BBEG. INT, WIS, CHA > 9000, caster level 1551563279. Possibly kill a few gods while they're at it.

Van Richten's guide to the Lich states that a demi-Lich can indefinitely animate ~100 liches, who all share his mind / are under his full control.
Now make those Liches into demi-Liches and presto: Uber-Lich (IMO 100 liches should be more than enough, since some bones are too small to use as demi-Lich phylacteries).

>>3060814
As for the bones that you don't use just glue them in place. No one will notice.

Now then. We've decided a Skeletal Multi-Lich is awesome. Let's expand on this. Let's maximize it up a bit, give it a cool name and outfit theme, contact a draw-fag, and get this show on the road.

I'm voting armor rather than the typical robes. Because Rule of Cool.

IIRC, demiliches have a high turn resistance, but aren't actually immune to being turned/controlled. So, really, you would only need a few really powerful demiliches (powerful even for demiliches) to work together, and they can all command the rest of the "lesser" demiliches.
Of course, I could be wrong about the turn resistance, thus making this whole post a complete waste of time.
Oh well...

HIVEMAGE

206 of them seems unlikely because of the reasons you've said already. Getting that much value in gems on every single bone seems really unlikely, and even if they could communicate properly, every decision being made by a 206-member committee seems like it would be crippling. Now, if we reduce the number of demiliches, it might be feasible. Perhaps one is the skull, each limb is another, and the rib cage, pelvis, and spinal cord houses a sixth. A circle of six powerful mages banding together to create something like this makes a bit more sense, and is a more reasonable, although still soul-crushingly difficult, encounter.

>>3060837
Could just be that one particularly strong lich has casted Dominate undead a few times. Then made a telepathic (and physical, attaching the bones probably with some kind of magical bonding to each other, I'm voting runed metal) bond while the lesser lich was in his command.

>>3060814
Okay, if thats possible, that means the ~100 liches-turned-demiliches can make their own liches, to turn into their own demiliches.

There's got to be a rule about that... right? Because if there isn't, /tg/ has just broken 3.5 yet again. Lich Skeleton Gattai Army impeding...

>>3060837 Again.
Now that I think about it, aren't demiliches single parts, not just single bones?
You could, theoretically, do it with about 14 or 15 (1 skull, 2 upper arms, 2 forearms, 2 hands, 2 femurs, 2 shins, 2 feet, a ribcage, and possibly a spine). Sure, it cuts down on the cool, but it's a lot more practical.

>>3060844
A DEMI-DRACOLICH, IN THE FORM OF TWO SKELETAL WINGS, WHO HUNTS, DOMINATES AND GEASES HUMAN DEMILICHES TO CREATE HIMSELF A SKELETON TO GO WITH THOSE WINGS

ALSO HAS ARTIFACTS FROM THE DAWN OF TIME, SCALE ARMOR AND THE FINISHED SKELETON CAN BREATHE FIRE FROM ITS SKULL

Suddenly a Bloody Path rogue runs around the lich, causing all the 206 bones to attack themselves.

>>3060864

Holy shit I think my eyes just exploded

>>3060857
Congrats, you've created the most powerful being in the universe. What are you going to do with him? All of /tg/'s characters together couldn't defeat OP's idea much less that plus a dragon.

>>3060845
There really isn't a rule about that. That is a strictly "if DM feels it would add to the campaign" ability, since Van Richten's guides are meant to be used in Ravenloft and Ravenloft PCs have NO HOPE of defeating a Lich in a straight-up fight. Demiliches are just... godly by comparison.

>>3060868
Maybe if the Hulking Hurler got the jump on all of them...

>>3060868

What about Pun-pun?

>>3060857

No, The Arch Demilich riding a dragonsized Dracolich Demilich made from many, many Draconic Demiliches in the same way the Arch Demilich is.

>>3060881
Problem with that is a draconic demilich is more powerful than a regular demilich. Probably, since I'm not sure the former exist.

Maybe it could be a horrible monstrosity put together from parts of different species. Left hand is a drow, right wing used to be a devil, feet are from a dragon, the skull is probably a trapped god of some kind.

>>3060868
You are quite obviously new to these parts.

>>3060833
Here you go

And thus, EXALTED was born.

>>3060886

They've made a pact to become the strongest beings in the universe. Yes, Neutronium Golems, there's a new all-powerful force, and it is the ArchDemi-Draco Alliance

Ehm, folks...? Does it occur to you that we have here one of the few beings in the multiverse that could feasibly destroy a neutronium golem?

>>3060886
Heck, it doesn't even have to be a particular shape. When you're made of that much raw power, you could easily get by as a giant demilich Katamari.

>>3060898
Actually, the book with the Neutronium Golem has the Akalich template in it, which is an unofficial super-demilich template. It grants incorporeality, turn resistance +100, +50 Intelligence, +50 Wisdom, +50 Charisma, a +100 racial bonus to Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot checks, and an at-will Trap the Soul that works on deities, among other things.

WHY STOP AT A REGULAR HUMAN SKELETON WHEN YOU CAN FASHION A STYLISED MECHA GOLEM OUT OF A SHITLOAD OF LICHES AND DEMILICHES USING THEM LIKE THEY WERE NEGATIVE ENERGY LEGO

AT THIS POINT IT IS NOT TOO MUCH TO SAY THAT THEY CAN REFORM UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE HEADLICH RIGHT

SO THE NORMAL DEMILICH JUST ARRIVES IN A TWELVE FOOT TALL LICHRIDER FORM OR SOMETHING THEN WHEN SHIT GOES DOWN HE SCREAMS SOMETHING CAMPY LIKE "LET DARKNESS REIGN! HELL FUSION BEGIN!" AND HE CASTS AN EXTENDED TIME STOP AND THE REST OF THE DUDES WARP IN FROM PORTALS AND THEY GATTAI TOGETHER INTO KING LICHRIDER AND THERE'S REALLY AWESOME MUSIC PLAYING WHEN THIS HAPPENS

>>3060902
Screw Katamari.
Demilish Pac-man chanting WAKKA-WAKKA with the voice of a THOUSAND DAMNED SOUUUUUUULS.

>>3060886
An island of demilich bones of all species, cobbled together into a sleeping deity the size of a god-isle, floating in shared consciousness omniscient in their knowledge of arcana and their strong divination. It's the closest thing a lich has to the afterlife, and death to anybody, entire planes and celestial hierarchies, if they should ever catch its attention. It's theorized that most of the magical energy in the planes now flows around this construct, and this is why the magical powers of material mortals have weakened since the times of the old ones.

Traps to teleport the party to its vicinity in the astral plane have been popular with evil sorcerers lately.

>>3060908

HERE IS A PICTURE THAT WILL GIVE YOU A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT I AM GOING FOR

i never got this. if you were a rediculously powerful undead being on the verge of demigodhood, why would you be content to just be a floating skull when you could be anything?

>>3060919
HOLY CRAP IT JUST OBLITERATED MY SOUL THIS IS AWESOME.

Also, the music's got to be from a Sentai series of some sort. Or the Impact theme.

>>3060914
BETTER HAVE SOME SKILL POINTS IN BLUFF FOR THAT ENCOUNTER

THIS IS HOW YOU BECOME THE GREATEST DM EVER, AND THE SHORTEST-LIVED

>>3060928

I WAS THINKING SOME FUNKY FRESH DARK TAKE ON GATTAI MUSIC FROM THE DUDES WHO DID THE HELLSING OST

IT WILL MENACE WITH GROOVINESS

Oh, sweet Jesus.

GATTAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Mega-Lich will speak.

Year of our Union, 125.

Our consensus remains clear. Yes, we will prolong a second century of peace. Economical automation is complete. Our research will now encompass other frontiers. Yes, this is the consensus we have created. Our unity will soon be absolute. The remaining boundaries are vanishing. Yes, share your mind with everyone! Open yourself! Your needs are the needs of all. Let us understand and be transformed! Yes, Transform each other and transform yourselves! The only frontier that has ever existed is the self.

Mega-Lich has spoken.

"ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AS LONG AS YOUR SOUL BURNS WITH UNENDING DARKNESS AND HATE! UNTIL THE SEVEN MOUNTAINS OF CELESTIA FALL, THERE WILL BE NO REST, NO FORGIVENESS, NO END TO MY VENGEANCE!"

>>3060924
You encounter a skeleton in elaborate, runic armor. At the wave of his hand, a burning, skeletal dragon tears through the stone roof of the dungeon. You notice the skeleton's and dragon's body appear to be covered in thousands of gems. The gems glow with a malicious intent, and appear to be casting disintegrate.

Roll for initiative.

...nevermind I'll just say it. There's no way this thread could be more awesome.

>>3060914
The previous thread where this idea came up (they named it lichatron) they decided that the most awesome thing would be a moon made of demi-liches that traveled the universe doing whatever the fuck it wanted to.

>>3060953

'Sup, /tg/?

>>3060928
The Flash Gordon Football Fight theme.

Maybe we should drop sup/tg/ a line about this... Also, requested 1 time(s).

>>3060967

You rang?

There's something like that in classical D&D (the green box - companion). An undead that looks like two eyes, another that looks like a skull, and another that looks like two disembodied hands. Together they form a ridiculously powerful weird skeleton thing, that's actually three undead monsters working together.

there needs to be some kind of mobile base for lichrider to launch from and maybe a crusty old duegar mechanic who is there to scream things like "NEGATIVE ENERGY LEVELS AT 30% AND DROPPING! WE NEED A MIRACLE!"

We have officially reached 'Gurren Lagann made of fucking demiliches riding a dragon also made of them' levels of awesome. The gattai idea is still my favourite though.

>>3060985
Make it a Slaymate for posterity.

>>3060985

The Mega-Lich flys on it's own power.

>>3060989
Skull Lagann?

>>3060992
Pardon, I used the word posterity without thinking... Still, my suggestion stands.

Also, head lich needs to have a pilot seat, even if he's only a skull.

>>3060985

Can Lich Rider/KING LICH RIDER launch from Lichatron?

>>3061000

I was thinking some kind of shodan like cockpit with negative energy tendrils snaking out from his skull and sending DRAMATIC pulses when he starts screaming to focus his hate

>>3060989
I'm working on it

>>3061007
Liches don't scream, they hiss. He should brood and get fucking pissed, but in a dark way so that his skull is perfectly calm and mean looking, but its negative energy tentacles start lashing about.

This is a lich, not some ridiculous hyooman.

Call it the Concord and have it be some sort of mage deity.

= win.

>>3060959
Fuck you.
Reinstalling.

The only thing that could defeat this thing is another Lichatron.

Fuck.

>>3060959

Now that I think about it, perhaps the aim of the Lichatron is to grow larger. All will be blessed with unification with the Whole.

>>3061016

No, you fool! There can be only one!

Obviously, one of us must absorb the other, becoming larger and even more powerful in the process.

It's sad that this is all perfectly within the boundaries of the game rules, too... I mean, assuming you could find that many liches.

Mind you, an evil, powerful empire could always forcefully school their subjects in necromancy and force them to become liches, then demiliches. Assuming they were brainwashed from an early age so they don't just say 'screw you' and teleport off.

Wow, there's an epic campaign setting for you.

king lichrider's rival will be a fucking awesome flesh colossus made out of dead ulitharids with an extremely powerful controlling Alhoon and two enslaved elder brains used as psionic generators

think cthulhu made out of psionic corpses and with dual psychic fusion generators I do not think you are quite grasping just how much psionics there is in this thing holy shit IT IS A LOT OF PSIONICS HOLY CHRIST GODDAMN

ps: he will be called EMPEROR PSYCHO FLAYER

>>3061022
Uncle Sam needs you... to become a lich.

>>3061021

I read that in Cobra Commander's voice.

>>3061030
And then they both will have a rival in a level 40 githzerai wizard-slayer with natural magic and psychic immunity and 5 attacks per round.

>>3061036

Pseudo-hiveminded. Imagine hearing x number of Cobra Commander voices where x is the number of demi-liches involved.

PRO TIP: Throw neutronium golems on it until it dies.

>>3061030
There goes a big chunk of the material plane... and probably a few other planes too.

>>3061038
>>3061030

And between all of these abominations and humanity stands the one man capable of fighting them.

How about a demilich eating the souls of other liches then adding their bones to him? Screw human shape, just keep adding into a horrible mess of bones capable of eating hundreds of souls at a time.

>>3061038
Mary-Sue.

Where would the phylacteries for this monstrosity be, by the way? I assume at the core of Lichotron or the Death Lich or whatever you'd like to call it at this point...

Here we go!

>>3061048

Sounds good to me.

>>3061048

inside x number of living vaults, scattered throughout the planes, likely protected by each liche's respective minnions.

>>3061044
I'm thinking more along these lines...

>>3061049
Hmmm considering demiliches can fly perfectly... if the other demiliches were subjugated in some way, something like the Formics in Ender's Game, with the "queen" in the middle and the other forming a protective sphere around it?

Imagine a skull floating around surrounded by a thousand swirling bones, all with gems on them.

Hmmm would look a bit like Yog-Sothoth i guess.

>>3061056
Maybe if you wanted pure effectiveness, but a mech made of demiliches can warp something twelve dimensions away and turn it into a goat, by punching it in the face.

Speaking of war mechs and bones possessed.
In Exalted there is a Warstrider, bone?, that has a hungry ghost sealed in ever one of its pins, plates, gears, and springs, etc. All of the ghost, thousands?, well be released as soon as someone tries to examine it.

I would think the "how the fuck do you fit that much value onto a finger bone" problem can be easily addressed. I mean, fuck, we're talking about fucking demiliches here. It wouldn't be too unreasonable for them to work together to magically create gems more valuable than anything that could be naturally discovered.

Each gem is less than half a carat in size. They are made out of the crystallized souls of madmen and each one is lovingly inscribed, in tiny, tiny script, with a single word in the Dark Speech spoken by the wicked deities who once cavorted amongst the stars. When the Omnilich has inscribed every single word of this ancient and terrible tongue onto its own form, it will open its million bony mouths and recite the gospel that ends the multiverse.

>>3061022

>sad

You spelled 'awesome' wrong, just so you know.

>>3061022

Actually, it isn't allowed within the RAW at all. The most demiliches legally allowed in one square would be something like 25, and many of them would block eachother's line of sight.

A massive swarm of demiliches that takes up the whole room is within RAW (and always has been), but isn't as cool.

So, what would the Lichatron's stats be?

Omni-lich? Mega-lich? Lichatron? Lich-rider? Uber-lich? Arch-Lich? Multi-Lich? Hive-Lich?

>>3061094

yes

>>3061041

>neutronium golem

ARE YOU SAYING YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT LICHRIDER WILL BE EVIL ENOUGH TO SLAY YOUR FAGGOT STAR GOLEMS

WELL WHAT ABOUT THE FINAL EPISODE WHERE KING LICHRIDER GATTAIS INTO EXTREMELY AWESOME GIGANTIC SLEEK BATTLE ARMOR PIECES WITH A SKULL HELMET THING FOR PSYCHO FLAYER'S FLESH COLOSSUS AND PSYCHO FLAYER USES THE EXTRA NEGATIVE ENERGY TO PUT EVERY SINGLE ULITHARID BODY ON THE COLOSSUS INTO PSYCHIC 300% OVERDRIVE MODE

AND AS THE FLEET OF ONE THOUSAND NEUTRONIUM GOLEMS MOVE IN LICHRIDER SAYS "ARE YOU AFRAID TO DIE, PSYCHO FLAYER?"

AND PSYCHO FLAYER SAYS SOMETHING LIKE "DIE? HOW CAN I DIE WHEN WE ARE DEATH ITSELF?"

>>3061083
It will open a million million bony mouths and SING THE SONG THAT ENDS THE WORLD!

>>3061094
Delotheaw Líceva, ''DeathLord the Awesome Eternal Creeping Vines of the Hellish Darkness of Undeath''

>>3061094

MULTI-GIGA-LICH-RIDER!

I AM LEE JOHN FEAR ME!

*trivia: lichrider is the only lich in existance to have a beard. And what a beard it is.

>>3061106

This needs to writefagged now!

>>3061106
RIDE ON, LICHRIDER.

>>3060989
We did that last time. In fact, we had Choujinga Demi-Lichann last time, the moon sized Spelljammer made of demiliches, which was piloted by a bone construct made of demidracoliches, which was in turn piloted by Lichotron. I'm guessing the various parts would be made of certain specialty demiliches- the weapons would all be Evocation specialists, while a bunch of clerical demiliches form the innards to repair the thing.

"Our thousands of spells are etched into its body! Transforming this infinite brightness into dark! Unmatched in Heaven and Earth! One body, one soul, greater than the GODS! SUPER GALAXY...DEMI LICHANN!! We're gonna show you the power... of undeath!"

>>3061158
ONE BILLION FIREBALLS

This better be archieved somewhere.

I challenge /tg/ to come up with good creatures that are just as over the top

Hey aren't Demiliches real old monsters? I think it was introduced back in 1986 I think, though I could be wrong...

These things "howl" before they die and killing their victims, don't they?

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Come on, you guys. Fukken GameFAQs's P&P board came up with the Fusion Lich years ago. Are you really just now picking up on the idea?

>>3061174
A grey goo of golems.

An ancient wizard once created a stone golem with so powerful enchantments that it can cast the necessary spells to create a stone golem. He then programmed it to create a similar golem. This is what the golem did, striking the earth until the whole planet had been consumed and turned into stone golems. Now they travel as swarms in space, a huge rain of stone golems from space that will consume a planet in days, single-mindedly turning it into more enchanted golems who will then journey on, the plague of golems consuming entire galaxies.

>>3061187
R...Really?
OP here... I'm glad to see that my thread has made it so far with all of the support of /tg/'s malevolent minds. ;_;
Then again, this wasn't my idea in the first place. Thanks to whoever realized that combining demiliches is awesome, and now our vision can be observed and implemented by evil DMs and archive-lurkers on the entire interweb.

>>3061203
I think he meant Good-aligned. Mind you, golems can count, as far as I know.

>>3061227
Whuh. Point. Well, maybe they're making golems from entire star systems to one day assemble into a greater golem made of golems made of golems and smash a galaxy-sized fist into the Lich Rider. They're chaotic good.

rolled 4 = 4

>>3060899

And inside is the REAL skull. With laser tentacles.

>>3061239
Fair enough.

>>3061239
Fair enough

Why limit yourself to one human skeleton shape?

I'm thinking a two-headed skelly. It may be ugly as hell though.

>>3061174

A blue giant star which has been prepared as a construct, had Awaken Construct cast on it, and then traveled throughout space collecting smaller celestial bodies to orbit it, animating and awakening each one.

Whenever it finds a new star or an inhabited planet, it grants it life and sentience, and then shows it the mortal peril that Omnilich presents. Sometimes it gives inhabited planets an awakened moon as well if it thinks they need the extra protection.

At the back of its vast and all-encompassing mind, the living star knows that these measures will not be enough to stop Omnilich. It must play for time, however, for the solution may yet present itself.

>>3061239
Then you have a campaign where armageddon comes to the fantasy world of your PCs in the form of a storm of huge, flaming meteorites from red skies which, after they've struck the planet, unfurl into stone golems covered in glowing runes and start dismantling everything in sight to make more golems and your PCs must do... something.

>>3061291

Eventually the star pauses its tireless work. Lich Rider has not been active of late. Does the universe dare to hope that it has been defeated?

The star travels back along its path, seeking signs of the undead behemoth. In time the truth becomes clear.

The living star draws back in horror as it sees the perfection of the Megalich's dreadful work - the cold and ebon emptiness, the resounding silence, the absence of light. Dread wells up within its being as it realizes that it has given Omnilich the weapon it needs to destroy everything.

Omnilich moves, and the star is consumed.

As the universe watches in terror, a sentient black hole - a star lich - sweeps through the skies, rendering them black and barren.

First, let me say this is retarded.
Second, let me say that I thought of this too, so...

Anyway, their best attack would be spamming Soul Drain or whatever, since even if they save, they still take -4 energy levels.

>>3061174
Space dwarves that live on space hulks orbiting a blue giant star, preparing enormous machinery to turn the star into a gigantic plasma torpedo that they will fire into the center of the lich cluster, hopefully destroying their phylacteries.

>>3061299
Warcraft 3?

Some pretty damn cool ideas ITT. Would play with you guys.

>>3061343
Never played, explain reference plz.

>>3061299

And by do something you mean sob uncontrollably and suicide, right?

How about a dwarf that built itself some power armour and later used it to build a bigger suit of power armour... [a few pages later] ...that is not encased within a larger suit of power armour with the ghost of the long-dead dwarf still animating the controls?

>>3061347
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvFhXXJpgJM Should explain it more or less.

This thread needs Archived.

>>3061349
Nah, I was thinking more like blow half the planet to space along with the golems, moving the rest of the mass out of the swarm's way, or trying to hitch a ride on the new golems in order to warn the next planet.

Or maybe you could have a planet of extremely strong psionics. The whole ecosystem would be a telepathic community that could use its telekinetic/ESP powers to 'possess' celestial bodies in their near space. They could shape a huge monstrous avatar made entirely of metal asteroids and have it fight for them, embodying their RAGE. Nothing is quite as awesome as a lich though.

Also >>3061393 is kind of cool.

I have just been discussing ways in which to defeat such an epic boss.

Ideas proposed included; Mordenkaines Disjunction. True Resurrection(which was agreed wouldn't work due to spell description) and lastly Mass Heal...If we work on the principle that healing magics damage undead entities.

Heal, Mass
Conjuration (Healing)
Level: Clr 9, Healing 9
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Targets: One or more creatures, no two of
which can be more than 30 ft. apart
This spell functions like heal, except as
noted above. The maximum number of hit
points restored to each creature is 250.

Please Discuss.

>>3061442
Magic Immunity (Ex)
Demiliches are immune to all magical and supernatural effects, except as follows. A shatter spell affects a demilich as if it were a crystalline creature, but deals half the damage normally indicated. A dispel evil spell deals 3d6 points of damage (Fort save for half damage). Holy smite spells affect demiliches normally.

>>3061529
Also somehow they can cast Harm on themselves to heal despite that.

The XP cost involved with a 206-demilich would be phenomenal.

Lets take the third edition ELH demilich, CR29. Twelve of those is going to be EL36. A level 36 party is going to get 10,800XP for that encounter, and a level 37 party begins to enter official "hard to measure" territory. You'd really have to measure this ad-hoc or as its own creature, a sort of spellcasting hecatoncheire.

Even so, I think this begins to fall apart. The demilich hits for 206 "trap the soul" attacks per turn, enough to practically guarantee a "natural 1" from everyone in the party within a round. If somehow that doesn't happen, it still dishes out 824 negative levels.

Should you manage to stay invisible or out of the 300-foot range required, you still face off against 206 21st-level spellcasters. Your target is effectively a swarm of 206 AC51 139HP liches in a five foot square. They can Telekinesis at will for a total of 3090d6 damage, and between them summon 412 18HD outsiders in advance. This is enough to fill a 60 by 60 square area with Huge earth elementals before the battle has started.

>>3061563
MAGIC IMMUNITY + PROTECTION FROM PSIONICS + RING OF EARTH CONTROL

FILL A PIT WITH MACES OF DISRUPTION AND TRICK THE ARCH-LICH INTO WALKING INTO IT

rolled 5, 20, 7, 18, 9, 6, 6, 8, 16, 10, 11, 3, 12, 18, 16, 8, 4, 17, 6, 19, 7, 6, 17, 7, 12 = 268

>>3061563
Imma rollin' to see if my party survives

Can you dominate a creature that then dominates other creatures? It seems like something whose will you are suppressing with your own directives should be incapable of imposing its own will on others.

>>3061635
Even assuming it failed 206 sense motive/spot checks, wouldn't it just fly?

Hm... carpetbomb the area with neutronium golems. Only solution.

>>3061675
Okay, so make it a trap that fires 200 maces of disruption into the lich. That ought to do him in.

Lichrider 1-24 (The stunning instant classic Op music intro of Lichrider is set to Daft Punk's Harder Faster Better Stronger.)

Neo Lichrider 1-12 (Lichrider attempts to scientifically map and catalog the Far Realm.)

Lichrider: Abyssal Memories OVA (Find out the origin of the Lichrider Gattai forms and why each of them necessitated the destruction of one layer of the Abyss each!)

Lichrider Black 1-6 (Lichrider breaks into the Exalted multiverse to save Psycho Flayer, previously thought killed in the finale to the original season. Will he survive?)

Lichrider Lady (weak point in the series. Also, terrible political characterisation of the blood war.) 1-6

New Lichrider 1-12 (In this retelling of the classic series, expect a new biomechanical Lichrider design by T. Nihei as well as many more surprises.)

Soundtracks by Yoko Kanno.

>I need Dragonlich power!

>>3060902
>>3060914
>>3060912

>>3061675
Why not? What do you think would happen if a creatures had first dominated a lesser creature and then you dominated the greater creature? I think you would get direct control of both creatures. If it works that way, then why couldn't dominated creatures also dominate creatures?

Now, assume that somehow you're able to withstand whatever magics this thing has. You still have to deal enough damage to kill it.

Your first problem is that it's immune to most magic. Luckily, it's effectively a swarm, in that an area effect that it isn't immune to will hit all 206 targets. Your best bet is Holy Smite, dealing 5d8 for a maximized 40 damage, or 20 on a save. That's 28% or 14% of hit points for a 7th level spell, 11th level quickened. If you can manage eight in the surprise round, such as four epic level clerics, the 206 demilich goes down. However, should even one of the liches scry to uncover your plan--which is likely, since odds are good that the tibia or one of the ribs is a diviner--they can take on round and spend 300XP apiece on Limited Wish to emulate Spell Immunity to Holy Word for 210 minutes.

Maximized Shatter (level 5, quickened level 9) will deal 30, Fort half (the demilich has only +10). Unfortunately, the demilich has sonic resistance 20, making that 10 damage on a failed save (7% of total) and 0 on a pass.

Lets say you want to turn undead. You need a cleric who can turn a 41HD undead and 4,326HD of those. It's a no-go unless you have superb turning ability and some "turn infinite amounts of undead peons" epic feat.

Finally, you can use Antimagic Field and simply walk in there and batter away with a bludgeoning weapon. Any charge build of yours will work, but since it's technically 206 separate creatures you only take out one bone at a time. If you're able to deal a regular 139HP with one hit, however, you can quite straightforwardly Great Cleave or Whirlwind Attack and strike every single bone. Great Cleave has a drawback in that a natural 1 is likely to end before you hit every lich, but as long as you keep the antimagic field up you're safe, except from the 412 called Huge earth elementals I mentioned earlier.

>>3061709
Nope, gatling ballista, alternately loaded with Ballista Bolts of Undead Slaying and Maces of Disruption. Throw in a whole contingent of specially attuned Dragonlances against the draco form.

>>3061768
Holy shit, this thread is now about a giant ball of demiliches. Lichetron up there with his 206 bones is a chump.

Why not fluff it like this?

Once, in a city both ancient and learned in the magical arts, there was a plague so virulent and unstoppable that within weeks, 90% of the city had perished. Though the nature of the plague has been lost in time, it was recorded that it was beyond natural fevers, unmoving in the face of magic or faith. Though the Clerics and Wizards of the city employed both heroic and harsh measures to stop the disease, it flowed through quarantines and outran every attempt to halt it, killing thousands in the first day alone. How such a plague was unleashed, and why it never flourished outside the city, are both facts unknown. However, it is known that there were survivors, 206 of them, members of the secretive 'College of Bone'. The number held special significance in their branch of magic, which can only be guessed upon. Although it has been rumored that the survivors and perpetrators were one, the College was close-mouthed as ever, and few dared the gates of the dead city.
In the ashes of their ancient metropolis, they raised an army of the dead, ostensibly to guard the treasures that the city had once held, and in this city of dry bone and derelict acropolis, the 206 liches of the College of Bone lived in harmony, working together on a great and secret project. Through the millennia, their forms wore away, and they ascended to demi-lichhood. However, this was not their true aim. The nature of the experiment is something lost in the ages, for those that knew felt it too unnatural and obscene to record.

>>3061819 (Cont)

Whatever the project, the fact remains that nearly ten thousand years into their research, the College of Bone was interrupted by a force of the mightiest adventurers the world had ever seen, backed by the armies of a hundred kingdoms, and by the heralds of the gods. The researchers realized they were outmatched, and while their skeletal servants battled to hold the gates, they planned their escape. Shelving their difference, they decided to escape through subterfuge rather than strength. Each of them taking a bone for themselves, they disguised themselves as a simple skeleton, then, animating the millions in the crypts of the city, they fled the city while the adventurers dealt with the uncountable decoys.

>>3061768
na naaa na na na na na na na

I dread. Eventually, some crazed neckbeard is going to crawl forth from the depths of his lair and whisper "Neutronium Golem Demilich", implying that somehow, somewhere, 206 Neutronium Golems ended up as demiliches uniting into one terrible entity.

tl;dr - SIX MOUTHS, SING SONG, END EARTH

>>3061833
>SIX MOUTHS, SING SONG, END EARTH
Requesting the long version.

>>3061846
'ere you go.

>>3061833
Reading this for the first timhhhlbmlsakslnvbbbb

>>3061846
It's a Penny Arcade reference. Look it up in their archives.

>>3060768

Having only read the first post, I have a name for this monstrosity; Hitlersaurus.

>>3061120

Skeletor - It is the only name.

>>3061863
Never saw this before? I printed this out and handed it to a group with the instructions to make a reasonable counter to a team of 3 of the fuckers. We needed 7 calculators for that encounter.

>>3061881
The other thread was calling it Lichotron, IIRC.

>>3061854
That's not the actual long version

>>3061833
Am I the only one who thinks that golem looks absolutely hilarious?

>>3061894
Can ye point me in the path of the long version then?

>>3061889
>We needed 7 calculators for that encounter.

High level DnD: A fun game.

Acererak would be proud.

TENGEN TOPPA GURREN LICHANN

Best way to defeat this: Peasant Rail Gun with maces of disruption. Just keep launching em straight at the center of the thing. You'll hit the phylacteries eventually.

Non-cheesy way of beating it:

High CHA high INT character. Discern the differences in opinion internal to the skeleton. Play on them until the skeleton has an internal war.

One important question remains, though; could this uberlich defeat the Outer Gods?

>>3061991
You're assuming that the phylactery is anywhere in sight. not to mention each demilich has EIGHT soul gems, each serving as a phylactery, PLUS an additional phylactery hidden somewhere incredibly safe.

So, what have we decided on?
Astrolich= black hole
or
Uberlich = 206 demiliches in a suit of skeletal power armor made of other dominated undead, resting in a spelljammer made of even more dominated undead

Relating back to the idea of a moon sized Arch Demilich with the phylacteries all in the middle of it. Since it has 206 Maximized disintegrates and a weak spot at its core, it has just become the fantasy equivalent of the Death Star.

>>3062011


Hero: Why dont you put the whole WORLD in a bottle Omni-lich?

Lich: Good Idea. I think we will.

Hero: Doooohhhh

--

>>3062092
FUND IT

Okay, so say we have a party of 4 level 20 adventurers. True to form, they represent the traditional D&D roles of big stupid fighter, sneaky guy, arcane caster, and divine caster. The non-standard part? Who these four characters are.

The Big Stupid Fighter is none other than the Hulking Hurler, capable of throwing lead spheres 700ft in diameter.

The sneaky guy is The Nasty Gentleman, a dignified spellcaster who can erupt into a mass of tentacles, claws, and spikes at a moment's notice due to overuse of symbionts.

The arcane spellcaster is a heavily optimized artificer with Craft Contingent Spell, a fully functional suit of power-armor, and all the metamagic feats needed to turn Scorching Ray into PLASMA RAY OF DEATH at will.

And lastly, the divine spellcaster is the one and only Chuck, The Ruby Knight Vindicator: capable of spending a thousand extra actions a day, breaking the speed of light, and incinerating entire continents in a single round by running laps around them.


That's four level 20 characters. Can they beat the 206-part voltro demilich?

on the subject of demiliches, an idea for a BBEG.
A spellcaster lich who uses a quarterstaff made of a spine topped with a pelvic bone.
The quarterstaff is his demilich overlord.
WHAT A TWEEST.

Just imagine how nutters it'd be.
It could have been alive for aeons before even descending into lichhood.
There are so many memories, and so much knowledge teeming in its mind that it can hardly function.
It has perpetrated evils so foul that they've curdled the very milk in the bosom of the earth goddess.
On top of it all, it's exerting control over hundreds of similarily powerful, mad, beings all screaming for release. It is in constant danger, one slip up, one moment of failure and they will overwhelm it.

It focuses its mad eyes on your players, and a sibilant whisper grates through its teeth:
"Where are my slippers."

>>3062121

Yes if they form an alliance to take down the lichsphere with all free sentient races. Then the artificer designs and mass produces a bunch of flying machines with mace of disruption launchers for the alliance to fly. The cleric then finds a young man using divination who despite being low level is a DMPC that has the intuition to find the weakspot of the lichsphere without any of the flying machine's divination targeting artifacts, by using his innate magical abilities. He'll then shoot a single mace into the weakspot and cause the lichsphere to explode and save the alliance. But then in the sequel campaign the lichsphere's minions will begin to rebuild it!

>>3062121
You'd also have to define "destroy"
Congratulations, you've destroyed the uberlich! Each bone forms at its seperatly hidden phylactery, and the reform.
Congratulations, you've destroyed the 206 phylacteries and the 1648 soul gems that power the uberlich.
The uberlich itself, however, is very much alive.

"*echoing eldritch breathing* Do you feel...the presence of God...?"

>>3061894
>>3061903
I hate you. Both of you. The wall of text in the strip is my message to each of you.

>>3062247
Cool, got it in the end. Thanks, guy.

>>3062160
Very clever.

>>3062254
What the heck. Have some bonus material.

>>3062159
[leaning out the window at the top of his tower]
"Hey! Yeah, you! Get off my lawn! Damn adventurers..."

>>3060902
... oh. god. a Demi-lich Katamari.

>>3060908
I can just see masses of gleeful evil liches jumping into a box and turning into lego bricks in order to form a more perfect union within, soon to spring out in the deadliest metamorphosis known to the known universe. Why are my pants wet now? Oh...

>>3062288

Did you cream your jeans or piss yourself? It can be hard to tell with 4chan.

HI, WE ARE THE KALLETHAN.

WE'RE THE SPIRITS OF SIX EVIL DRAGONS INHABITING THE BODY OF A SINGLE UNDEAD MAGISTER.

WE GET SIX ACTIONS PER ROUND. WE CAST EPIC SPELLS.

WE DON'T DIE UNLESS YOU SLAY THE BODY SIX TIMES.

>>3061056
Like a giant death atom made of electron-bones?

>>3062302
Both? At the same ... ow. Ow. OW. OW!

>>3062121

Well, if we want we can hire Pun-Pun to settle this. Pun-Pun takes four fighter levels and makes use of Whirlwind Attack, costing five feats. With 8000 Dexterity he can sneak up on all 206 demiliches and guarantee the first turn, and with 8000 Strength he can cleave through all 206 in a round. With 8000 Wisdom, Pun-Pun can simply guess where each phylactery is, and will probably be right. With 8000 Intelligence he easily knows the secret of how to destroy each phylactery.

Almost, at least. The law of averages says Pun-Pun will roll a 1 one time in twenty, meaning that Whirlwind Attack will leave perhaps ten bones. On average, Pun-Pun now takes forty negative levels. These are negated if Pun-Pun is protected by an item of Death Ward--a spell of Death Ward will be Mordenkainen's Disjunction'd straight off.

Even so, there's a fifty-fifty chance Pun-Pun will roll a 1 on at least one Fort save. If he's unlucky, and enough bones survived, the odds are even worse. Pun-Pun is dust, and the demiliches re-form within the tenday.

>>3062421
pun pun gives himself tuck feats from complete scoundrel.

pun pun -re-rolls

LICH-A-TRON!!

Would a peasant railgun be able to take this megalich down?

>>3062461
see >>3061991
and >>3061792

...*lemu lichu lan lo lufo*...

BAATOR!!!...ANDOH...GEHENNAAAA!!!!!

My Friends and I did this once, one party of 7 Demi-Liches and a Morg.

We were in the Epic Levels, so each caster was a different class, and The Morg Grabbed levels of Monk. (This was done several years ago, before the existance of Tome of Weeaboo Fightan Magiks)

The Morg Held the Skeleton together and was generally in charge of movement, Unless we needed to fly somewhere at which point the Demi-litches used telepathy and followed the skull's lead on how to fly.

Whenever the Morg Landed a Blow, each's Demi-lich's negative energy touch went off, and one of them would cast a touch spell through the Morg and into the enemy.

We dubbed our creation Voltron.

>>3062471
Did you misspell "Lombaak ecree oplom ah-plee ozona ah-ah"?

>>3061710
>design by T. Nihei
Fuck yeah.

>>3061778
No, the most reasonable result is that the lower dominated creatures would no longer be dominated. In dominating their controller, you severe the connections. These connections were based on its will, which you have naturally crushed.

>>3061187
A bit off topic, but where can one find this epix thread if it gets 404ed? as in where is it archived?

This was big on the GameFAQs pen and paper RPG board about... two years ago or so.

Wait, what if each Demilich had 25 levels in Wizard?

>>3062514

>GameFAQs pen and paper RPG board
>GameFAQs
>GameFAQs
>GameFAQs
>GameFAQs
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>>3061991
>Best way to defeat this: Peasant Rail Gun with maces of disruption

WRONG

Two Peasant mass accelerators with two maces of disruption.

Have them pass the items until they reach reletavistic speeds and collide them.

>>3062603

s'truth, though.

This is the first time I've seen /tg/ taking sloppy seconds from GFaqs instead of vice-versa.

>>3062643
Why is this a surprise again? Gamefaqs has an overall higher quality message board as opposed to 4chan in the first place. It has to do with these mythical creatures called mods. Before you bring up Jim, i should mention that gamefaqs bans or probates anyone who is insulting or offensive to other users pretty fucking quick, 4chan does not. Thus, GameFaqs -------> 4chan

>>3062681
troll detected

preparing countermeasures

countermeasures launched

you just lost...THE GAME

0/10

Now if these demilichs have class levels how about that spell pool PrC from CArc. It's got a ton of team spellcasting benefits.

>>3063251
Strictly speaking, demilich is a template - the CR29 version you see is based on a 21st level wizard. It's entirely possible that some bones will have PrCs, or will be based on sorcerer or cleric instead of wizard.

Strictly, you need to have 21 levels of wizard, sorcerer or cleric not counting prestige class levels, meaning any PrC is on top of the base demilich. How about Oozemaster levels for internal organs?

rolled 59 = 59

So this song would be fitting for such a creature's theme song, methinks.

http://gh.ffshrine.org/song/119/23