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    471 KB Ensis !!fvYohjEjPyh 09/16/08(Tue)19:19 No.2593504  
    Hey /tg/ remember me?

    Well I'm going to start this thread off again were we left off last time. Original thread can be seen here:


    So, any previous contributors or newly intrigued contributors who want to offer some more ideas for the .hack//Pen and paper system?
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:19 No.2593507
    sageing for weeaboo shit.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:20 No.2593514
    oops, spelled my password wrong, teehee, although who would be trying to imitate me anyways? I should hardly be flattering myself.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:22 No.2593530
    What a coincidence, That's how the thread started off lst time.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:22 No.2593531

    Grow a pair of balls you aspie cuntbag.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:24 No.2593542
    Loss of quality control leads to pure and utter shit, this is quality control.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:27 No.2593567
    That isn't quality control if your "sageing for weaboo shit" since we were very productive last time in starting to develop our system for the game and many showed interest. If you don't like anime, good for you, move on, but others are interested in this, and it's a pen and paper game which isn't anime, although based on one.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:30 No.2593594
    I wasn't even here for the last one but homebreweing a game based on a show? Don't we have enough half assed games shit on us done by companies to cash in on a move or series?
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:34 No.2593616
    Well some people want to make it, including myself, so if you don't want to take part then ignore this thread, but please stop sageing this thread just because you disagree with what we are doing. We already ahve a lot of work done on the system and are going to continue working on it with or without your approval. Please understand, thank you.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:37 No.2593640
    >because you disagree with what we are doing.
    It seems you do not where you are, if you want to work on shit, take it to another board like the necro loli crew did.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:38 No.2593649
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    While I don't agree with your subject matter OP, I'll age to the death your right to homebrew.

    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:41 No.2593675
    Why thank you :]
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:42 No.2593680
    You will only serve to kill this thread faster
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:45 No.2593697
    Why is this thread getting saged more than >>2593622 I'm actually trying to make something /tg/ related.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:46 No.2593702
    Considering the current turnout, you might consider waiting until all the /b/tards go2bed before trying to post this. Or bide your time. It's unlikely the thread will fall off the back end for a while. A well placed bump has sparked many a jawsome thread.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:46 No.2593705
    Because thats a troll thread, saging it won't help the board.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:47 No.2593713
    Okay, thank you for the advice. I was wondering why my first one was met so open-heartdely, with enthusiasm and with honest to god good advice and this one is juts kinda, dying out.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)19:48 No.2593718
    ha ha oh wow, Angry-Anon is angry. It's alright Ensis, I'm with ya.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:49 No.2593726
    Because anime killed his family and raped him.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)19:50 No.2593731
    so any more word on IRL classes/play style and how they effect the player's character?
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:51 No.2593742
    Haha, thanks. was wondering when you were gonna show up kun-kun! :] We gotta set-up a way to message each other off of /tg/.

    Haha, nice :P
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:51 No.2593745
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)19:53 No.2593767
    I've been playing around with stats today and how they are affected from character>player. Give me a sec and I'll post up what I got. Gotta finish a little work first.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:54 No.2593780
    So will your stats be effected by how asexual your character looks?
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)19:59 No.2593811
    I was thinking it would be a little hard to incorporate AIDA since the Avatars are kinda unique.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:01 No.2593821
    goddamn you are annoying. Go /b/ack to your leegun. I'm pretty sure they wanna hear how much of an EPIIIIC WIIIIN EPIIIIIIC WIIIIIIIN your well planned out raid on /tg/ went. Also make sure to do the obligatory douchebag "sup /b/" with your guy fawkes mask on.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:02 No.2593826
    Honestly I have little background in G.U. although beginner level knowledge of volume one. I know what an avatar is and depending on class it could always be a final ability if all else fails.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:03 No.2593833
    Maybe bonus points for being a loli.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:04 No.2593840
    Just ignore him. All the kids in his 7th grade class pick on him. Let him have his moment of "win" and "wit" while he can.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:04 No.2593841
    ah, so not only do sagebomb threads relating to anime at all costs, you are also against loli? gb2 the teens-4-christ forums
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:05 No.2593848
    oh I know, I just wanna collect his angst-tears and bottle them for savoring later
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:06 No.2593859
    Something loosely touched upon in the last thread was character switching. If you're making a game based on playing an mmo, I think this should be one of the more fleshed out aspects.

    Who says 3 players don't want to just power level 2 characters? When one of the pcs gets exhausted he can turn over his character to another pc, and they can continue to push forward.

    The sub pcs would all of course be slightly different depending on which pc was using them at the time. Might be an interesting dynamic
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:06 No.2593860
    Hell lets add extra feats if you take the flaw "emo and always complaining".
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:07 No.2593874
    so tsundere, anon-kun :3
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:08 No.2593880
    What you are a pedo too?
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:09 No.2593892

    Reminds me, there was never even one person has more then one Char in any .Hack, or do i remember that wrong?
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:10 No.2593902
    well that all depends if you, anon-kun, wish to be the little girl? Do you, anon-kun? Do you wish to be the little girl? Damn straight you do.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:11 No.2593906
    Terms I'm going to use form now on to avoid confusion. ToP (you know is Type of Play which are the subclasses explained in previous thread), PC (player character, the "IRL" character), and GC (Game character, the character in the MMO "the world")

    Yeah. I came up with character switching last time. Indeed it could be useful tactic and (even in the show) it wasn't unheard of for 2-3 players to play a single character so it was never offline (gardenia, i think her name was or something like that was played by 3 girls). Only one can be logged in at one time and although two PC's can share one character I think mechanics would work better if each PC had their own GC but since (like i'll explain later) Charisma and Micro are directly related to the PC's themselves GC switching might be needed so a certain GC can convince an NPc or another in-game GC to do something. Also if a PC is IRL investigating and another PC needs to use their GC it could prove beneficial as well.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:11 No.2593910
    well Blackrose/Rena (I think her RL name was) had an earlier character or something, but it was presumably deleted or not in use at the time of her actions.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:11 No.2593916
    Ok then, sage for pedo.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:12 No.2593928
    There was. Also I'm also only using the shows and games as a base board to work off of, there will be no limitations from the games or show.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:13 No.2593935
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    >sagebomb threads

    Hey leave me out of this.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:15 No.2593945
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    More sage for pedo.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:16 No.2593958
    opps forgot my sage.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:17 No.2593964
    ha ha oh wow.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:18 No.2593974
    this kind of reminds me of the Necro Loli game /tg/ once at least tried to make. At one point, one butt hurt christfag was actually saging every fifteen seconds or so, calling us all pedos. Then I just got that one monkey program that let's me ignore all sage posts. Good times, good times.

    Whatever happened to that game anyway?
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:19 No.2593985
    They GTFO this board and made their own form, follow suit.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:20 No.2594001
    Age for .hack, also to counter intolerant retards seeping in from /v/

    (.hack landscape design = YOU ARE THE BEST LANDSCAPE EVER)
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:21 No.2594009
    I bet our anonymous friend secretly loves Project .hack// and is just trying to hide his inner weeaboo.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:21 No.2594010
    Best? More like generic OMG FLOATING SHIT EVERYWHERE WITH WINDMILLS! Hell you would probably have an orgasm playing spyro.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:21 No.2594012
    j0. this anon was posting in the last thread and was hoping ya'll would continue. I've played the games mostly and haven't really watched any of the anime iterations. So you mentioned you're going to have ToP, GC and PC.

    I'm curious about three things. First is if you're going to have "classes" or something similar for PC and GC or will ToP basically determine PC class? Somewhat related is what relevance in-World GC classes would have to the game play. Would they basically be the D&D equivalent of a character description which makes for nice background but doesn't factor into play too much or would it affect GC abilities? Lastly, which version of the world is this going to be based in or will it be generic enough that it can represent either? (possibly a fragment setting as well?)
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)20:24 No.2594021
    Sounds interesting, reading the original thread now
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:24 No.2594023
    yeah this anon is right. The World has 3 different stages, The World, The World: R2, and Fragment. Which would this be set in, or all, or none? After all the newest revision did come out in 2020
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:39 No.2594109
    Sorry guys, ahd to finish some work, im back.

    Thanks for the support. They had good designs for sure :]

    PC have no class other than their ToP which is SORT of like an alignment system and class rolled into one. There are lots of ToP and each are broken down into 3 segments and for lack of more elaborate terms are either good, evil, or neutral.

    GC have actual classes as you know them to be but the GC get certain bonuses and advantages/disadvantages based on their current PC's ToP.

    To answer your other question "The world" and the GC's in it play as any standard D&D system would HOWEVER they get additional bonuses based on their PC's ToP and statistics. IRL PC's get NO bonuses form their respective GC's and are "on their own" with their own stats. Making sense?

    Glad to have another interested! Let me know what you think! :]

    I believe the setting will be generic "The World" and will combine all settings into one big V.3 so to speak. I definitely want to include the hall from .hack//sign vol1 as a playable area, the one were you first turn orange and get your "data drain".
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:53 No.2594198
    Delta: Hidden Forbidden Holy Place if I remember the server name
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:55 No.2594206
    Yes! How you remember that is beyond me haha, but that's the one! :D By the way would u wanna swap e-mails or SN's?
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:55 No.2594210
    you mentioning Data Drain brings me to another point: whats up with hacking and data drain and the related stuff? How will you balance a regular generic blademaster from some snotty twin-blade with a shiny bracelet? Not that I don't love Kite, I'm just sayin' :]
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)20:59 No.2594243
    hmmm it seems safe to exchange, the sage-spammer seems to be gone. I'm installing MSN messenger as we speak, and will get back to you in a moment
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)20:59 No.2594244
    Although certain characters are totally allowed Cameos and i'll stat their GC's and PC's later GC's and PC's are totally custom characters you choose yourself. Also I'm not sure I'm going to include Data-Drain although it may be an ability along the hacker ToP path but it won't be some totally "OMG WE WIN DATA DRAINZ!" so 98% of everyone chooses hacker ToP. If I decide to include it at all.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:01 No.2594256
    just e-mail it here jose62967@mint.us.to it's a disposable 4 hour email i set-up.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)21:02 No.2594270

    Agreed. DD especially in anything pre-GU was an ability reserved only for someone with the bracelet right? (not counting the phases) Gifted from Aura herself? It also functions a bit differently in GU setting up the avatar battle instead of just super-nerfing monsters. Any avatar user can do it, but again the number is extremely limited. You plan on avoiding these kind of OPed abilities?
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)21:03 No.2594279

    Disregard. Type to slow
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)21:07 No.2594300
    Sorry had to make some food, now I'm back.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)21:07 No.2594308
    ah, you thought ahead. Very nice, Ensis. Expect an email soon enough.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:08 No.2594310
    Yeah. There will be some cameo characters who can do said things (of course at DM's will) but mostly I'm going to confine altering monster stats/data to the hacker ToP and it will remain within reasonable limitations.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:09 No.2594321
    Welcome back friend.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)21:11 No.2594335
    Wait, for those semi interested, what the hell do you want us to do with the email?
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:15 No.2594362
    I was just gonna have Kun-kun e-mail me his MSN/e-mail/AIM so we could communicate if we had little questions but didn't want to flood /tg/ with small topics. If you are interested drop me an e-mail explaining who you are (not your name or anyhitng just kinda so i know who you are) and your MSN/e-mail or whatever.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:25 No.2594452
    Alright, so any more thoughts?
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)21:27 No.2594469
    Mails on the way, Ensis my friend
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:28 No.2594480
    Alright, feel free to post in this thread though. Ill also letcha know when I receive it.
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)21:31 No.2594498
    are all the character classes open as PC characters? or just the R1 types: wavemaster, heavy blade, blademaster, twin-blade,etc, or just the R2 types: Harvest Clerics, Shadow Warlock, Edge Punisher, etc
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:33 No.2594516
    I think you mean GC classes. And I know for sure R1 builds will be as these are the classes most people are familiar with "wave master, twin blade, heavy blade, ect." but I will do some R2 build research and see about those classes as I am not entirely familiar with G.U
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:40 No.2594553
    btw will you let me know when u send it?
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)21:43 No.2594578
    *** ATTENTION ***

    Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its
    delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section
    labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----".

    The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section
    labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----".

    The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could
    not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a
    general translation for other e-mail servers.

    Please direct further questions regarding this message to the e-mail
    administrator or Postmaster at that destination.

    --AOL Postmaster
    yeah thats what I got when I sent you a message. It was rather odd....
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)21:49 No.2594607
    yeah i just keep getting the same error message. Try messaging me at Senorkranswick@aol.com, and lets see if it acts up from your end or its just me.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)21:53 No.2594627

    A ToP I thought up (3 seems a little sparse)

    Socialite: Plays the game for a way to meet new people and catch up with friends. Combat skills are typically lacking compared to other players, but the player has a wider network of friends and acquaintances (maybe allow them a henchmen of some sort and multiple henchmen at higher levels, friends of some sort either from their real life or their time spent in the game). Charisma is typically quite high. Bonuses to interactions with other characters.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:54 No.2594637
    okay, try, Temporaryemail52@gmail.com. Also what I was thinking was that for stats Charisma and Micro (Dex) are going to be directly related to the PC, Constitution is determined by your GC's class while PC strength, intelligence, and wisdom gives bonuses to your GC. Thoughts?
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)21:57 No.2594654
    There is not only 3 ToP and yeah that sounds like a good one to add to the list! Sounds like a good support role ToP. The good thing about the system is you can pick a "support" role ToP and still deal massive damage say if you were a Socialite Heavyblade :D
    >> Kun-Kun !3GqYIJ3Obs 09/16/08(Tue)21:57 No.2594655
    ok that last email seemed to work
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)21:59 No.2594669

    There's no reason the PC's constitution would be influenced by his GC character class, and likewise there's no reason why the PC's strength would in any way affect the GC.

    It doesn't matter if you play the Tank of the Ages with a billion defense and HP, if you're a nerdy little snot you shouldn't have much constitution or endurance or whatever at all. It also doesn't matter how hard you tap the keyboard, your character swings his weapon the exact same way every time.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:01 No.2594674
    Yeah, I'm just trying to find a balance between the intelligence bonuses and strength bonuses although I agree with you there. And why wouldn't health be affected by class? Would it not be a pre-programmed thing?
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)22:03 No.2594685
    Still up? More sage then.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:06 No.2594703
    Why hello again, friend
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)22:07 No.2594709

    Ah, it seems some clarification is needed then.

    When you say
    >Constitution is determined by your GC's class
    do you mean that the GC's HP and defense and such are determined by class, or that the PC's endurance is determined by the class?

    If it's the GC's stats that are affected then definitely yes. However, I'm going to need to see some reasoning if you're saying that the GC's class should have any affect at all on who's playing it.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)22:12 No.2594729
    Yes yes still here.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:13 No.2594731
    No no, I meant the GC's health is determined by his class. In this system it's strictly a one way street. The PC gives bonuses to the GC depending on PC stats but the GC's stats never effect the PC (unless we're talking corruption).
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)22:20 No.2594757

    Ah. Yes, then, carry on.

    As for Strength, just forget it entirely. That leaves Dexterity, Endurance, Intelligence, and Wisdom right?

    So, Dexterity affects speed/attacks per round or something, Endurance affects how long you can keep playing, Intelligence for things like monster abilities and weaknesses, and Wisdom...uh...maybe Wisdom for some kind of sixth sense? As in, when given a choice between two corridors, a player with high Wisdom might feel that the right corridor would be the tougher path, regardless of whether or not that feeling is actually correct.

    Or, you could get rid of Wisdom entirely and just go with the Tri-stat system.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:25 No.2594777
    It started as


    Now endurance/corruption are there own separate bar that fill up as you play continuously. I'm not comfortable dropping strength because then wouldn't casters get a int or wis bonus and fighters get nothing? As well as I figured strength would be determined by class. I'm not sure.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:37 No.2594854
    I have to do one of two things. Re-think the stat system or re-think the bonus system and I'm leaning towards re-designing the bonus system.
    >> Anonymous 09/16/08(Tue)22:38 No.2594861
    How original, you could have at least ripped off the games.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:43 No.2594896
    I almost cared to reply with a rant...almost.
    >> Ensis !!DVpvIjNHRlv 09/16/08(Tue)22:49 No.2594935
    Okay well i'm going to bed. Tired. See ya guys next time in thread #3. Peace.

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