WoW in space? DO WANT

>>2497063
>WoW in space? DO WANT
0/10

>>2497128
lolwut? Just because D&D has spelljammer before WoW existed doesn't stop $.0 from being WoW with dice.

>>2497154
0/10

>>2497169
>I RAGED

fix'd that for ya
you should probably stop being in denial about your pen and paper WoW game.

>>2497174
Fix'd has the exact same number of characters as fixed.

Oh, wait, it's 6 central, school must be out in the US. My mistake.

>>2497184
So instead of actually trying to counter my point, you instead admit I am right and attack my choice of typing fix'd instead of fixed. How cute.

>>2497212
why the fuck do all these ships look like water animals?

>>2497219

You're not familiar with Spelljammer, are you?

>>2497202
Er, I'm not the guy who replied to you earlier. I just thought maybe you were retarded. I guess I was right.

>>2497235
i've heard of it and saw the books for it on my dungeon masters bookshelf but never played it or read the books. i got into d&d on the tail-end of tsr and played mostly dark-sun. so no i'm not familiar. so why the fuck do they look like fish and the like?

>>2497250
Hiding behind the anonymous mask does not protect you from the truth or the rage. Admit it fag, you know I am right!

>>2497270
... No, seriously, I just saw a dumb choice, and corrected it.

And I wouldn't know, I haven't played any D&D for 5 years. I play Exalted and ignore the opinions of fat asshole neckbeards when it comes to other systems.

>>2497295
>... No, seriously, I just saw a dumb choice, and corrected it.
Murk Loar fag we always use fix'd instead of fixed around here.

>>2497304
reminds me of the Sathanas

anyone going to explain why all these spelljammer ships look like fish and bugs and shit?

>>2497336

I guess because if you're building a ship in space, you can make it look like whatever the fuck you want.

>>2497174
And you should quit being a shitty troll.

>>2497373
>baaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Also, lizardmen, illithids and neogi built many of those ships, so they make them look like things that are familiar and aesthetically pleasing to them - sealife, squid and spiders respectively.

>>2497174
I love it when I troll, then someone trolls even after I'm gone.

>>2497439
>I'm pretending to be two separate people to my eternal rage T_T

The Dolphin is the best ship for an adventuring party. It's medium-large and it has another ship sitting on the back, for landing on planets. The second ship looks like an ordinary boat so you don't arouse suspicion.

>>2497336
I've often wondered this myself. I think they look awesome, but I need a good in-game reasoning behind this particular style.

I "get" the boat-as-spacecraft thing, given that you could evolve the concept of an airship to a spaceship. The rest of these designs though seem purely decorative, or designed to intimidate.

>>2497480

So invent one. Why don't you take a crack at coming up with a rationale for each of these? I'll tell you whatever you want to know about the vessel in question, just ask.

>>2497439
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>>2497063
Samefag

>>2497501
I'm at work, so I'm a bit too busy to do this right now, but does anyone else have any suggestions beyond being the functional equivalent of a figurehead on a ship?

The nautilus, squid ship and hammership all have rams for use in battle. The spider ships (owned by slavers) use their legs for grappling and presumably also as masts.

>>2497538
Partly it's that, partly it's because certain shapes augment maneuvering in space. It's also the helmsman's skill and the grade of the helm. Helmsmen should be NPCs or wand dual-wieldan magic users (of any kind) though; the helm drains all memorized spells and prevents memorizing new spells for 24 hours after use.

>>2497560
... So it would be totally acceptable for a Artificer to be the helmsman, if you wanted to bring a little Ebberon into your Spelljammer.

>>2497480
It's that there is no reason not to - it does not inihibit or enhance performance, so fashion is ultimate.

>>2497660
well, I can think of special cases where you wouldn't want anything like this... landing on planets incognito in the ocean and sailing to land, for example.

Also going unnoticed is probably of high priority to many adventurers, they would want a pitch black ship with no frills against a pitch black space.

It also seems a lot of these fashion bits would be easily broken with a single hull ram, incurring heavy repairs.

I mean.. basically.. our tanks don't have lots of pretty shit all over them, just some spraypainted slogans or logos at best. Military has always been all function, no form.

>Helmsmen should be NPCs or wand dual-wieldan magic users (of any kind) though; the helm drains all memorized spells and prevents memorizing new spells for 24 hours after use.

OP here, I'm going to drop that element from my version, because I think it's stupid. A clever(?) play on words does not equal good game design.

Currently I'm thinking ships gain the ability to break orbit via a ritual similar to Raise Land. As far as moving about once in space, I'm trying to decide between 'the ether wind does it' and 'a variety of interesting sources of power, including material, dreams, magic, summoned spirits, and dangerous esoteric elements' or both.

>>2497688
I think you could even find room for physics-based propulsion once in space. If there's a decanter of endless water, why not cannos of endless flame?

or even just gunpowder-based propulsion. It would have a horrible maneuverability, but it would make for a cool low-level ship where the adventurers must outrun or avoid most enemies.

Hey guys, you're arguing about ship design in Spelljammer. You know how it was designed?

'I've got an idea. Let's put D&D in space.'

That's about it. You should all just relax (la la la).

>>2497720

Actually, water would provide better propulsion than fire. It has more mass and the decanter projects it at a steady rate, no need to accellerate it.

as more proof 4E= WoW, Dranei had space ships, now tieflings have space ships

Why is WotC shitting up my game with spaceships in a FANTASY game?

>>2497736
Don't forget HEY GUYS, CROSSOVER TIEM, LOL

>>2499389
Wow, do you ever fail.

>>2499402
I... think that was intentional.

>>2499402
Why are you making excuses for Shittards of the Coast? Ever since they were gonna make an LOL I GET POWERZ FROM SPACE ALIENZ warlock I knew there'd be trouble

>>2499421
...you're trying way too hard, guy.

>>2499410
>>2499421
Are you SURE, >>2499410? I've come to realize that there are people who believe just about any retarded thing on the internet, so god only knows. He might genuinely believe Wizards created Spelljammer and added starships to D&D.

>>2499465
In relation to this, there are no trolls, only idiots.
Say intelligent things on /tg/, guys, or at least close to it.

>>2499465
Alright Viralfag, you don't have to just throw insults if you have an actual point. But your kind NEVER do. I get that spelljammers don't shoot lazors and are powered by LOL MAGIC. but they're still fucking spaceships. you can call a shark a shark, but a shark is still a fucking fish. deal with it.

>>2499485
You are trying WAY too hard. "Shittards of the coast" would be a giveaway if nothing else was.

>>2499485
My point would be that Gygax put lasers and spaceships into D&D in 1980, and TSR added Spelljammer in 1989.

>>2499492
True but I got one person to look shit up to refute me, therefore making it worth it.

>>2499549
You have some really fucking shitty standards for your trolling, man.

>>2499549
>True but I got one person to recite shit anyone older than 25 knows to correct me, therefore making it worth it.
Fixed for accuracy. It's okay to not be that well educated on the subject.

>>2499514
Actually Arneson put them in, even before that.

>>2499595
My books start with AD&D, but I'm willing to believe you as regards earlier sets.
And while there might be a footnote, Expedition to the Barrier Peaks is the iconic "got your sci-fi in my fantasy" module.

Fuck your ships.

I made a spelljammer bike last time I played Spelljammer.

Picture most certainly related. Would have used something from the comics, but this came up first and all my comics are on the computer upstairs. Fuck you niggers, I'm not walking.

>>2499665
lrn2/network/.

>>2499616
It's Temple of the Frog in the Blackmoor supplement for White Box D&D, and was republished as a stand alone adventure for Moldvay/Cook Classic.

>>2497200
has anyone got the adnd2nd version of this? With the wider/longer observation panels?

>>2499713
Ahhhhhhhh.
Yeah, I was a hair too young for white box.

It sure is summer in here.

>>2500889

These pictures and deck plans are from 2nd edition.