Marines. Everything they have has 4's across the board. Impossible to fuck up.

Dark Eldar

Probably SPESS MEHREENS.

Constructing the worst list imaginable isn't nearly the same thing as simply 'fucking up' a list because you're not good at building cheese.

Interestingly... if you both made shitty forces they would theoretically perform all right because you would see barely any units of great danger in either rank.

Still, the hardest to make a 'shit' force out of be Chaos Space Marines. Even if you operate them all with the bare minimum of stuff you're still forced to take a HQ (chaos HQs are all decent) and your worst troops choice is the standard Chaos Space Marine, who comes armed with both a bolter, a bolt pistol and a close combat weapon. They'd be set for whatever shit your opponent threw at you because you'd have made sure they had nothing that could realistically put them down.

>>1807482
Sorc Lord with too much wargear and useless powers in relation to them

10 Chaos Mehreens
10 Chaos mehreens

3 units of Possessed
Lesser Daemons
Dreads

Out-shit that.

First thought Necrons but then I remember pariahs...

Space marines in all likelihood. You can't really screw them up. Maybe mass scouts? Or a massive amount of points spent on rhinos.

>>1807482
>both a bolter, a bolt pistol and a close combat weapon.
>both

Nobodies said IG? Think of the glorious conscript spam!

>>1807491 mass scouts
refer to >>1807484
Looks scary with all the missiles there.

What's the shittiest, most vulnerable and overcosted unit for each side anyway? That's basically what this boils down to, isn't it?

>>1807498
3x20 IG
3x40 Conscripts
3 basilisks

It's like swarmnids, but with flamers.

Necrons, easily.

You just take a shitload of Warriors and Destroyers, and a Lord with a regen orb.

>>1807491

Rhinos?

>>1807501
Chaos Dread
Daemon Beasts
Techmarine
Pariahs
Zoathropes/Biovores
Repentia
Power Armour Grey Knights
Ethereal
Haemonculi

>>1807488
You kidding me? Against an equally shitty force the potential for rape of the enemy is awesome. I mean, Possessed would thrive in those conditions, especially if they rolled well, and no one would be able to kill the fucking dreads because anti-tank weapons would be left out.

>>1807504

The OP's challenge was to make as deliberately bad armies as you legally can, and with that condition, Necrons aren't so hot anymore.

Regardless, like somebody already said, making the shittiest army possible isn't really a good measure of how easy any side is.

>>1807514
Shitcrons

Nightbringer
10 warriors
10 warriors
3 max units of Pariahs
scarabs to cover the points.

Turn one Phaseout.

>>1807503

Bzzt, can only have as many conscripts as regular IG.

It's da rules.

>>1807522
...Well that sure is shitty.

I don't see how this method works as valuing an armies relative strength. it's just down to making the stupidest choice for the scenario (CQC equipped but spending most of the game trekking to the enemy etc).

part of me is wow'd by how much i wanted an SM scout army after seeing that.

>>1807463

Deployment is where n00bz fuck up. Everybody can go to failseer or heresyonline and get a decent list. Deployment can pretty much only be gained with experience. I think shitty deployment are one of the main reasons IG and other shooty army players loose.

>>1807541

No, no, no! You aren't going to play the sucky army you make, your opponent's going to play it. You play with your opponent's sucky army.

The thing is that both of you want to win, so you'll have to outperform your opponent. And face it, if you have to create a sucky list out of SPESHH MEHRENES or Chaos Marines, you are kind of already lost the game.

>>1807522

Holy shit, it's actually possible to build an army in WH40K that automatically self-destructs on the first turn?

That's like the Traveller character generation system where your character can die before the game even starts.

>>1807622

Nah, not possible, since only the necron models are counted. What he means is that it will be easy as hell to kill 16 Necron warriors with a 1500 point list.

-HQ-

Autarch(70)
Power Weapon(10)
Banshee Mask(10)
=90

Autarch(70)
Power Weapon(10)
Banshee Mask(10)
=90

= 180

-ELITES-

10 Harlequins
=180

10 Harlequins
=180

10 Harlequins
=180

Sub Total: 540
-TROOPS-

20 Storm Guardians(180)
Warlock(25)
=205

20 Storm Guardians(180)
Warlock(25)
=205

20 Storm Guardians(180)
Warlock(25)
=205

15 Storm Guardians(180)
Warlock(25)
=165

Sub Total: 780

TOTAL: 1500 points

>>1807541
Ranged Hands is a great chapter and you know it.

Commander Farsight + Retinue of seven crisis suits.
Second HQ suit with retinue.
Three groups of three crisis suits in the elite section
One group of three Broadsides in the Heavy section (can't take more than one group as per Farsight rules).
6 fire warriors
6 fire warriors

Good luck, those suits cannot all be hidden behind terrain for jump shoot jump, cost a fuckkton of points, and go down like 2 wound marines.

who would win 1500 worth of tyranid gaunts unpimped or 1500 worth of points of guardsmen unpimped

Tyranid Warriors x3 - Lash Whip, Scything Talons, Enhanced Senses 75

Gaunts x32 - Devourer, Adrenal Glands(+I), Adrenal Glands(+WS), Flesh Hooks 320

Gaunts x32 - Devourer, Adrenal Glands(+I), Adrenal Glands(+WS), Flesh Hooks 320

Gaunts x32 - Devourer, Adrenal Glands(+I), Adrenal Glands(+WS), Flesh Hooks 320

Gaunts x32 - Devourer, Adrenal Glands(+I), Adrenal Glands(+WS), Flesh Hooks 320

Zoanthrope x3 - The Horror, Psychic Scream 150

1505

>>1807991

Guard. Tyranids are to easy to make a terrible army by taking lots of critters and no synapse to cover them.

>>1808006

but they wouldn't really need anti instant kill against unpimped guards

With Chaos Space Marines it would be pretty easy. Just mass all khorne berzerkers with no rhinos. I have the experience, it's rather sad when you see a mass of blood thirster warriors whittled down to a handful of models by the time they get into close combat range.

>>1808012
But they would need the ability to not have to pass a leadership test on LD5 to do anything useful.

Which synapse is sorta useful for.

>>1808024
>all khorne berzerkers with no rhinos
I LIKE THE WAY YOU THINK

>>1808025

Except the fact that they have a 3+ armor save will probably mean that most will get there anyway on a standard board. But what do I know.

>>1809339

Not much, it seems. Gaunts have a 6+ armor save, and they need to pass a leadership 5 test to not flee every turn.

>>1809379
And they fall back to nearest synapse/table edge faster than they run forward

>>1809379
You're missing the point. The original post was a bunch of gaunts with NO SYNAPSE to cover them.

>>1809398
But there's no HQ nids can take that lacks synapse. At min you're still gonna have to take 3 wars/bl+retinue/ht

>>1809402

That's not enough Synapse to cover 100+ gaunts. You're looking at lurking and accomplishing nothing the whole game or trying to move and likely ending up with half your force off the table.

>>1809398

There was a brood of three warriors to fulfill the HQ requirement.

It's a feasible army if you have a big bit of cover to hide the warriors in that's central enough to place the gaunt broods around. Unfortunately broods that huge are unwieldy and 18" is a pretty short range for their guns which are two S2 shots each.

Also there's barely any chance of hurting even armour 10.

Chaos:
Chaos Sorcerer. No options besides plasma pistol (maybe), they all make him better (110)
2x Min-size Chaos Marine squad w/o upgrades (150)
31 Chaos Spawn, split into 11 groups (9x3 spawn + 2x2 spawn)
Total: 1500

Technically if you want to be pedantic, the all-gaunts army is better still than a icon-less Chaos list maxed out on Daemons.

So Chaos Sorc (110)
2x Noise Marine squads w/ no upgrades (200)
As many lesser daemons as you 1190 points can field

>>1807522
Aren't Pariahs 0-1?

How about a Dark Eldar army with an Archon and as many warriors as you can pack into 1500 points with heavy weapons or transports?

Sounds like a shitacular army if I ever heard of one.

>>1809407
Infiltrate your broodlord ahead of them and watch as the gaunts outside of synapse fall back 3d6 TOWARDS the enemy. Sure it's still gonna suck with only one synapse but it will be hilarious at the same time.

>>1809423

without heavy weapons or transports, I mean.

>>1809426

Remember that your not trying to lose, just to make a losing army for the other guy to use. No one sucks THAT much.

Daemonhunters anyone?

>>1807511
>>"Haemonculi"
Actually, I use 3 Haemonculi on skyboards with Destructors, Scissorhands, and Grotesque Talismans. They make for an excellent mid-game distraction/ support when they deep strike and flame a thick unit with S 4 AP d6 and/or charge w/ dual wielding, wounds on 2+ and counting as 3 models each for outnumbering.

still necrons

>>1809846

Are you a fucking shit troll? 20 Necron warriors can fuck the heaviest vechicles and wound everything without even fucking upgrades. How can you even begin to compare this vs unupgraded gaunts is beyond me.