On the battlefield they've got the scale advantage over the Imperium in general, and Titans could probably be swarmed into submission. What stops them from getting lanced from orbit, though?

Core: Iron Men from the Dark Ages with built in libraries of STC templates.

>>1641127
TAUniverse?

What the fuck, is this some sort of weeaboo Tauwanker IRC network?

>>1641201
TAUniverse = Total Annihalation Universe
Dead simple.

>>1641204
Note the "sega". Troll troll is troll.

Warhammer 40k mod for Spring anyone?

>>1641211
Spring runs like shit on this computer, so it doesn't matter. There was a shitty TA WH40k mod, though.

>>1641201
you don't know what weeaboo is faggot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6mZZiI4ShQ

"A conflict that has decimated over a million worlds"

fuuuck.

The core/arm would win, mostly because they can do direct Energy to Matter and Matter to Matter conversion and build with nanites. The nids wouldn't beat them because they depend on biomass whist the core/arm could sit on a dead rock and and turn dirt in metal, or even sunlight into metal. The Necrons would give them a good fight though.

>>1641242
Tau are weeaboo newfag.

>>1641261
I've come to the conclusion that anyone who adopts the general use of "newfag" is probably a waste of space.

>>1641263
Could you possibly sound like more of a whiny fat faggot?

TA armies are at a disadvantage due to imperial orbital superiority- but on the ground TA wins, also has aerial superiority

KROGOTH vs TITAN

BIG BERTA - LOLLLL

>>1641273
Only if I tried really, really hard.

>>1641275
How many guns did the Krogoth have again? If memory served it was equipped to deal with anything you could throw at it.

>>1641280
Annihilator laser, two mass drivers and anti-air

Just pick up their titan with a transport =>

>>1641273
I dunno, could you sound anymore like an ignorant asshole?

Core or Arm are like if you had Tau Riot Suits as basic infantry, and produce them like Nids.

>>Disintegrator: This is an 'ultimate' weapon: no physical matter provides protection from it. It works by suppressing the quantum field strength of the 'gluons' that hold together atomic nuclei. The matter violently tears itself apart, leaving hydrogen, deuterium and a burst of free neutrons. This is the major advantage of Disintegrators: anything is destroyed and Heavy Armor provides virtually no protection.
>>The weapon has a number of disadvantages: First the matter is disintegrated so no metal salvage is possible. Second, the weapon is short ranged, partly because of the inherent physical limitations of reasonably sized projectors, and partly due to atmospheric attenuation of effect. The most severe restriction is the vast amount of energy required to fire it.
>>A useful attribute of the weapon is that it damages everything in a cone of effect so it can destroy several units that are clustered together.

The manual with its bullshit physics was one of the best parts of TA. D-gun vs anything.

>It has 29,918 units of health, requiring approximately 7 nuclear missiles to take it down.

fappin

>>1641283
It was always a laugh when someone pulled that trick off.

Also, a related (if slightly less awesome) question: Supreme Commander universe vs Imperium. Who wins?

>>1641298
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkvoVnWahIU
Including the Seraphim?

>>1641278

Fuck, a good number of well-placed Big Berthas or Intimidators reduce the need for having to use nukes.

I'm in my base, destroying yours.

>>1641256
Replace 4,000 year conflict with 40,000 year conflict, and you have fucking Warhammer 40K.
Jesus christ, A million worlds in just 4,000 years?

>>1641286
Says the American...

>>1641303

Universe is universal.

>>1641275
Well. We never really get to see much about their space force, so who knows? Maybe they do have a bunch of space ships. If they're building all these awesome land vessels, what's keeping them from putting them in space?

>>1641309
To be fair, they are flawless Von Neumann Machines; their expansion rate is exponential.

>>1641321
I was under the impression that they didn't have space travel because they just used the Galactic Gate network.

>>1641321
I would LOVE to have a 3d RTS like Homeworld where resource management worked more like in Total Annihilation; swarms of Von Neumann Machines blotting out stars holy fuck.

>>1641332

That would radically FUCKING HARD, wouldn't you think? Also gotta be creative; there has to be a phenomenon in space that grants you infinite material resources.

>>1641329
Well part of the fluff suggests that they are flawed and much less effective than they were when the war began.

>>1641331
Without that, I figure they'd just need a week to apply there sciences towards space.

>>1641343
Tech 1 Energy: Solar Array
Tech 1 Metal: Asteroid Harvesters
Tech 2 Energy: Gas Giant Furnace
Tech 2 Metal: Planet Devourers
Tech 3 Energy: Star Siphon

Core aren't AI. They are just people who have uploaded their minds into machines. Then their mind has been copied over and over and over. Yeah...

Arm are more fucked up though. Their battle to resist patterning means that they ended up cloning soldiers en masse to pilot their vehicles. Same effect of the same person being every one of a type of KBot yet somehow more horrific.

>>1641377
And supposedly ARM doesn't even bother to clone the full human any more, just enough biologicals to run their bots. A brain, a spine, and maybe some organs, plugged into their system's electronics. This is what passes for humanity.

>>1641363
This has severely awesome potential.

Can we has dyson sphere? Or has that turned into a cliche run into the ground?

>>1641384

What is your obsession with building a big metal ball around a star?

Anyone else prefer TA's canon to SC's?

>>1641386
Ensures none of that delicious fusion reaction goes to waste.

Isn't the reason that they teleport a single commander unit to a world because cracking a planet's orbital defenses were too well developed for a space fleet to crack?

>>1641386
>Metal ball

At least it isn't a metal box.

>>1641383
Dreadnoughts. Clone dreadnoughts. This is awesome and scary at the same time.

>>1641390
ahem...... MEEEETAAAAALLLL BOOOOXEEESSSSSS!!!!!!

>>1641389

At first. By the closing years of the war there were no space fleets left, only the gates and the commanders were durable enough to survive the war.

ARM > CORE > * > WH40k

These facts are undisputable.

>>1641387

Which is weird when you consider that TA lore amounts to "Everybody's dead, Commander,"

And yet it still manages to be cooler.

>>1641387
Well SupCom would have been a literal sequel to TA in plot as well as gameplay but Activision owns the IP rights. Humongous Entertainment died and all the IPs (like those made by Cavedog) went to Activision. Better to spend the money on developing the game rather than buying the rights back from a company you never worked with back when you made the original.

>>1641393
wow. TA is really grimdark. Should have paid attention to the storyline when I was playing it rather than just blowing shit up and asking questions later

>>1641394
>The Culture > ARM/CORE/WH40k etc.

Fixed that for you.

>>1641405
Both were good choices, and everyone made the right decision at the time.

Also, ARM wins.

>>1641386
It's only gay if Dyson Spheres are touching.

>>1641409
Probably, but I wanted to stick with the topics at hand.
Also...I haven't read any of the Culture books.

>>1641409
>>Revelation Space >The Culture > ARM/CORE/WH40k etc.

Fixed it again for you

>>1641413

The Core Contingency motherfucker.

>>1641429
Blowing up the whole galaxy doesn't count as winning.

>>1641434

Too late, it's already exploding. (The Adventures of Beowulf Schaeffer, from Larry Niven's Tales of the Known Universe.)

>>1641434

Ever heard of pyrrhic victory? Also GRIMDARK end.

Why is TA so under appreciated in every respect?

>>1641446
Because robots are impersonal and that makes the game hard to empathize with.

Arm and Core will RAPESPLODE the 40k universe so hilariously

Nanobot swarm construction > Everything the 40k races can cook up

Cloning/Mind duplication = OKAY SO THIS ONE GUY IS SO MANLY LIKE KHARNE IN A TITAN MADE OUT OF BLOODTHIRSTERS OKAY CLONE HIM UNTIL WE WIN >>>> GENETIC ENGINEERING AND INDOCTRINATION

Also, the following sample scenario:

(Necrons awaken)

Necrons: DEEAATH

Arm: okay, flash rush time

Necrons: AHHHHHHHHHH

Arm: Those guys were slower than a krogoth in water.

Necrons: (getting back up ominously)

Arm: shit, almost forgot, every time I swear...(beep beep beep)

Construction Planes and Vehicles: reporting in and mmm mmmm num num reclaiming delicious metal

Necrons: WE'RE TOO OLD FOR THIS SHIT

>>1641463

"...the only acceptable outcome would be the complete annihilation of the other."

>>1641473

Necrons aren't really the kind of metal you're thinking about.

>>1641473
Arm takes over terra, starts mass cloning the emperor.

>>1641473
You can't recycle necrom... necronmetal.

It forms back into Necrons. Enjoy getting raped by NecronARM and NecronCore.

>>1641531

D-Gun tiem!

>>1641531
Matter to Matter conversion. It doesn't matter what it was made of once the nanites take it apart and force it to transmute into another element.

>>1641547
Except it goes from NecronMatterA to NecronMatterB in that case.

>>1641531
Then they'll just turn that mass it into energy instead.

No more necrons

>>1641536
Enjoy getting time-reversed by the Necron Lord.

>>1641564
Then it goes from Necron matter into Necron energy and you have to fight invincible necrons made of pure energy.

Don't you understand? Necrons are the wet dream of GW! Nothing can kill them! Nothing! Not even porn of Queen Elisabeth!

>>1641293

Do you still ave that manual?

>>1641531
>Necronmetal

Deathmetal? Also, Necrons are just nanobots. Destroy them all and they can't come back, like geneseed.

>>1641588
D-Gun says otherwise.

Regarding SC, a friend of mine and myself have done some guesstimations based on 40K scale and the only established unit size(40ft UEF Siege Assault Bots) available.

The ACUs are about twice the size of a Warhound.

Also, Babylon 5 at 40K scale it 250m long. lol

>>1641590
I have in in paper but its very torn and damaged since its been on my desk/shelf since 1997 and I took it to primary school when I was 10 or 11.

http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.937

With the way TA units multiply they can outswarm and outgun any WH40K land army if given a chance to establish themselves.

Hell, once they're established even an ork Waaagh, a Imperial crusade and several hive fleets combined can't stop them. And all the wreakage and mangled bodies created will quickly be turned into more Kbots

>>1641602
Necron: You can't kill me, you know. I'll just teleport away and be resurre

BLOD: ^_^ BOOM! ^_^

>>1641608
Agreed. Though for some reason, I'd rather have SupCom-40K thing. If only for hilarious shit like the Seraphim invading some hive city world with OMGWAT fucktons of those enormous heavy bombers.

There's something I always wanted to ask: Do Necrons ever suffer any actual casualties?

With the I'll be back and Phase out do they actually suffer loses or do they just return to their tomb world after a defeat to reattach their limbs and try again?

I shat brix.

>>1641617
That's basically it. Which is why they're a shitty deus ex machina. Only way to stop them is to blow up their tomb world.

>>1641617
Seeing as power weapons and certain other things bypass WBB, I would assume that such attacks just outright gut the fuckers.

They still have a human mindset more or less and Chaos spawn has shown the ability to possess pretty much anything, so Chaos could conceivably take control of the Commander or any builder unit. Chaos Core Commander, fuck yeah.

I have the TA manual in paper at home. Along with the Dark Reign, Netstorm and Lords of Magic manuals.

>>1641617
Destroy the tombs, or tomb world, the necrons from there won't respawn anymore. Problem is they have tombs built everywhere.

>>1641623
So I was right? If you hit them with a D-gun or something like the BIG BLUE LAZOR and completely utterly annihilate them at an atomic level, they'll stay dead?

>>1641634
I should hope so. It's kinda hard to reconstitute something from stray base molecules.

>>1641642
They're Necrons, they can do that.

>>1641617
I think it's said that after a defeat all necrons simply disappear, even the "dead bodies".

I assume they're rebuilt/recycled wherever it is they go to so you'd have to destroy their tombworlds first.

>>1641642
Or maybe just hit them with antimatter and turn them into a big ball of radiation? UEF ACU's antimatter cannon would come in real handy there.

>>1641649
So they can pull themselves back together after being reduced to a few floating particles of "hydrogen, deuterium and a burst of free neutrons", but not from a thwack from a power sword in the hands of some IG lieutenant?

You know what still bugs me about TA? If they've got nuclear weapons en masse, nanoreplication systems this widespread, and even shit like the D-gun and that fuckoff awesome blue laser that makes things explode, and they're on the verge of extinction now...

What were they like a thousand years earlier?

>>1641662
Apparently, they can fix BOTH.

Commander: ^_^ I D-Gunned all teh Necron to sub-atomic level ^_^

Nightbringer: *rezzes all Necrons* Fuck physics. I'mma stargod.

Commander: ;_;

>>1641670
More or less the same, just with more of them kicking about and probably a few less specialized kbots/machines/Krogoths.

>>1641683
You know, ARM+CORE still have the advantage anyway. Necrons have the whole "we have always been here mwahaha" thing going, but on the other side, you have massive overkill. When one annihilator doesn't work, build twenty. When one nuke doesn't kill them, launch fifty.
Oh and as long as Necrons can't rez themselves from pure free radiation, just use Berthas. Antimatter sliver cannon.

>>1641689
Armies of Krogoth-sized machines, massive spacecraft, flying cities and colossal ocean-going battlecarriers with onboard nano factories?

>>1641675
I'm picturing a mold back at the tomb worlds, where they grind up the destroyed necron parts and pour them into mold. Sure they can "bring back" the dead necrons. Like a TA commander can "bring back" a destroyed kbot by recycling it's metal to make a new one.

>>1641709
Well thanks to the weekly unit releases, both sides got dedicated resurrection bots too. No idea how that works.

Spring makes me feel all warm and gooey inside.

>>1641649
Oh shut the fuck up Necronfag, no one likes your shitty deus ex machina race anyways.

>>1641719
Only reason I don't play Spring is because it takes me so long to set up and I suck balls against any human player.

Although the one time I found someone on my own skill level, owning the shit out of him with a single Annihilator and tons of Merls was fucking awesome.

Why is it that every other day somebody starts a thread of "YOU KNOW WHAT COULD TAKE DOWN 40K GAIZ?"

Anyway, warp corrupts, nobody wins.

At one of my previous jobs, I started installing TA on a bunch of the workshop computers.

At the height of summer we were spending half the day doing TA LAN matches, which hardly impressed the boss. On the other hand, he knew we had very little work to do, so he let it slide. Mostly.

>>1641718
it uses a lot of energy to repair/fuse back together the metal framework and install a new AI into the machine. It can't resurrect a smear. It takes longer than building a new unit but it can be done in field and doesn't require a nano-blueprint.

>>1641733
I notice you said "previous job" =P

>>1641725
Signed.

Okay, here's an idea. ARM invades a hive world. Oh hello little peoples. TRAMPLE.
Om nom nom delicious resources.
SUDDENLY, NECRONS!
After some weeks or so of gratuitous overkill, someone figures out that they're respawning all the time and that the Berthas seem to stop that, or at least slow it down considerably. Nuclear missiles, of course, stop pretty much everything if you use enough.

Inquisition ship appears.
Inquisition ship bugs planatery government for HERESY.
Inquisition start bombing the shit out of the local populace.
ARM is intrigued.
Long story short, ARM end up with a ship design due to some good aiming and reclaiming a big broken wreck. Cue massive armada of nano-replicating ships armed with antimatter cannons messing up the Necron campaign.

>>1641743
Yeah, my non-renewable contract came up and not long afterwards funding got cut so the workshop had to be closed.

Was fun while it lasted, though!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHothxZQoWo
I really like this video. Mostly for the ending escalation and the final "screw it, nuke'em!"

>>1641730
The warp can corrupt sentient machines?

That sucks fucking ass.

Necrons
-Nano-ressurect
-Gauss weapons... works pretty much like a D-Gun, except 98% energy efficient
tl;dr D-machine-gun
-timestop
-teleport to everywhere
-millions years of war experience
-billions of troops
-led by GODS THAT FEED ON STARS who DO NOT CARE ABOUT PHYSICS
-they're Andy Chambers robot-mary sue
-they are like robot undead in space, you can't kill undead... not even with science
-because I say so
-and not because you say so
-you also just lost the game
-and i'm a 0/10 troll
-god is bullshit, prove me wrong
-PROMOTIONS
- ;_;

guys, i love this thread
ta > supcom by a long shot. i would have been happy if they just copied the shitty engine and kept releasing new units

>>1641762
You need you some Spring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_w6wUTcko8
Build peewee x1000

FUCK YEAH

Tzeentchian Core
vs.
Nurglian ARM

Slaaneshi Core
vs.
Khornate ARM

>>1641767

tell me more good sir

>>1641762
I personally like both for different reasons. TA has EPIC MUSIC and SupCom suffers from making most of the units tiny,

>>1641750
WERE GOING TO BLOW UP THE OCEAN!
that was an awesome bug.

>>1641768
My god, Peewees suck.

>>1641749
If you and your colleagues had that much free time you must have known that would have happened eventually.

At least you enjoyed it while it lasted.

>>1641770
>Khorn CORE
>Slaaneshi ARM

More likely.

>>1641805
http://spring.clan-sy.com/
3d TA.
Here's an example of it in action: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VW1YLs7mLfc

>>1641809
Both TA and SupCom's music was composed by Jeremy Soule, he was just slack with SupCom, but he improves it in Forged Alliance. Actually, most of what sucked in SupCom was fixed by forged alliance.

>>1641758
>millions years of war experience
They spent most of their time asleep

>billions of troops
>led by GODS THAT FEED ON STARS who DO NOT CARE ABOUT PHYSICS
Where does it say they have billions? (which isn't that much for a WH army tho they probably make up for it in quality)
Also where does it say that the Star Gods ignore Physics?

>>1641805
http://spring.clan-sy.com/

>>1641827
Sadly, none of my favourite mods work in FA. Such as the upgraded experimental units. The Monkeylord and Fatboy especially were way better beefed up.

>>1641847
Fatboy is already the best experimental, it doesn't need beefing up when you can build them in under two minutes and they have the xbox hueg range

>>1641847
Also the improved T3 interceptors, T2 & T3 storage structures, and the T2 bombers.

At least the Cybran destroyers move a bit faster on land though. They're actually USEFUL in FA.

>>1641858
I don't know, I just liked it more with the mod. Heck, I managed to kill one of two with a single Monkeylord once.

Once. ;_;

Conversely, has anyone ever found a use for the Cybran heavy gunship besides a huge diversion?

>>1641866
The Monkeylord is stealth and should easily be able to get in laser range of an un-escorted fatboy before it's spotted visually or on an omni-radar. That's why so many players prefer the monkey over the colossus, because if you have air superiority (and cybran have the best tech 3 fighters) than its likely they won't be watching your troops with anything more than radar and won't discover your experimental until its within omni sensor range and too late.

>>1641879
I suffered from this myself once in a skirmish game. Forgot to build omnis.

SUDDENLY, MONKEYLORD OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE.

It's surprising how nimble they can be.

>>1641875
It's buffed in forged alliance and has a bit more dps. It's cheap, it takes forever to kill and can soak up the fire from almost any air defence. It won't get break through stacked shields but it will eat up the AA missiles from every sam site nearby and ask for more. Send in bombers while it's getting shot at, with the stealth cover on them you opponent won't have enough warning to micro his AA off the gunship and onto the bombers before they hit a commander or fusion plant.

TA OR 40K!?

AHAH!!!!*Implodes*

>>1641895
What about the AI?

Also, the Seraphim FUCKHUEG bombers are sex.

>>1641896
40K is supposed to be GRIMDARK in an ironic, amusing way.
TA looks like an epic BLOWUPEVERYTHING RTS, but it's actually fucking dark at the heart of it. Also, nanoreplication > everything eventually.

Counts as Catachan jungle fighter.

>>1641827

Except the sound issue, because the game cannot fucking run on Dell soundcards.

Greag Bear, "Forge of God" and "Hammer of God".

Arm and Core have the most fucking ridiculous build rates short of a von neumann swarm ever. At the height of their war, they were stripmining a planet's worth of resources in days or less to support their militaries. Their armed strength increases exponentially with time.

40k... well, doesn't.

>>1641908
GRRIMDARKs irony only applies when GW has to explain something away, like why all of humanity is incapable of figuring out simple machines. Otherwise GRIMDARK is always to be taken as GRIMANDARK.

Assuming if the Nids would actually fight them, could a Arm/Core commander hold back a Nid invasion?

>>1644180

A.K.s and Peewees along being roughly the same size as a Carnifex... what do you think?

>>1644180
Their T1 mass units are like 25 foot tall walking robots.

>>1644166
The galaxy wouldn't be able to support 40K if it grew like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_w6wUTcko8&NR=1

Nids got NOTHING on this.

I think the only reason the TA setting never had any space force was due to the reasoning that

1. Why build spaceships when quantum teleporation is more effective?

2. There's nothing to fight over in space.

In which case i don't think its too much a matter of they can't or don't know how to use spaceships, but that they don't really see the need to. Though I'd imagine that if they were getting lance strikes from orbit they'd probably build some kind of massive antiship weapon. Don't know how' they'd counter an exterminatus though.

>>1644309
They have extremely reliable anti-nukes.

>>1644312
Anti-nukes? Nukes are for fags. Nobody uses nukes in GRIM DARK except to add flavour to certain expensive armies.

The heap piles of machinery left behind the TA guys would inevitably be found by a rabble of green men and be made MORE ORKY. Fuck. The thought is frightening.

>>1644341
There are no words to express how awesome this would be.

>>1644341
Nano repicating orks, with nukes?
OH SHI-

A DREDNAUT FO EVRY ORK! DAKKA STOMPY! DAKKA STOMPY!

>>1644341
Shit. What's keeping them from making an endless swarm of Gargants?

not enough orks to fill them all up

On the SupCom Possession thing.

Cybran's are half machine, UEF have gone through the same sort of mind conditioning and control that Space Marines have, And Aeon, well, shit, those fuckers are serving SupCom's version of chaos already. It wouldn't be that easy to simply possess them.

SupCom, even given that it's units are smaller than TA's, would steamroll 40k like it was nothing. They can warp on to a planet, begin production and have a full base up and running in minutes, and every time you assault them, well, you just give them more resources to work with.

This thread does not contain enough heads on sticks.

>>1644341
They don't leave anything behind. They reprocess it all.

>>1644341
>>1644352
ORKY TA armies?! DO FUCKING WANT!

Counts as Imperator class titan.

>>1644561
Hardly. Krogoth is only about 16 meters tall.

>>1644571
Bah, ruin all my fun.

>>1644571

Fail.

Counts as being fucking huge and will ruin your shit.

>>1644605
Counts as warp spawn when it dies.

>>1644571
Maybe the in-game model is but it's actually over 100m

>>1641127

TA had a backstory?

>>1646304
Mmhmm.

>>1646308

?!

>>1646326
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSB-Rk1sYZw
ARM=Human clones
CORE=Digitized humans

CORE wanted everyone to be digitized for immortality. The ones who refused became ARM.

>>1646354
They should have digitised themselves and just left the unwilling to die off =P

Does anybody remember the 40k mod for Total Annihilation? I recall it had a finished Space Marine and Eldar armies, both of which could be made fuckhuge very quickly. This must have been pre-TA Spring.

>>1646463

Those who would be left to die WILL join the ARM. Really.

Either you sacrifice your humanity for immortality or save your own skin by going against the system. That's how it goes.

>>1646518
If they kept the digitising process optional (rather than insisting everyone does it) then this war would never have started in the first place

Core declared it mandatory because they wanted all citizens to enjoy immortality and freedom from sickness. They were acting with good intent. ARM are the terrorists here.

Chaos corrupts everything.

Chaos ARM/CORE vs. looted ARM/CORE Orkz vs. Necron vs. Tyranids FINAL DESTINATION

>>1646560

And to enjoy porn in public without anyone knowing?

>>1646545
That's another reason TA is so beautifully dark - the whole thing only started because the crazies had the loudest voice, plus Von Neumann machine escalation.

Actually kind of darker than 40k, in a certain way. 40k is an eternal crapsack because everyone is and always has been a genocidal asshole, nobody was ever happy and nobody ever will be. TA started off with idealism and rights and just... yeah.

>>1647119
The Tau Empire (for the moment), the Eldar before the fall (and, arguably, before they became hedonistic) and the Imperium under the Emperor were pretty happy places I heard.

>>1647612

>The Tau Empire (for the moment)

Pherenome peace is not true peace.

>>1647636
Pheremone, not pherenome, faggot. Learn to English.

>>1647636
Who said anything about peace. Those there are happy to be there. Well, mainly because those that dont' want to be part of the empire get killed for the Greater Good but that's close enough for them.

>>1647711

Your own evaluation of tau society makes it inferior to the idealism of TA.

>>1647720
So what about the Imperium then? Things were pretty idealistic when the Emperor was still alive. And I mean proper alive, not 99% dead like he is now

>>1647612
Tau are mindcontrolled shitheads, pre-fall Eldar were demented kiddie-rapers and the Imperium was all about psychotic xenophobia even before Chaos showed up.

TA was like the Culture, then they fucked it up.

Still counts as Imperator class titan.

>>1648222

Did you play TA when it was released and the only good site was annihilated?

It truly warms my heart that soon rts games will be able to render shit that looks this good on the fly.

OP here. Fuck, I can't believe the thread's still here.

Actually Chaos corrupting the TA boys does seem like a possibility. Then again the only fluff instances of corrupted machines were both from Gaunt's Ghosts. The corrupted Iron Men STC and the possessed STC Titan, both of which were exposed to the warp for long periods and in the case of the Titan, actually floating around in the warp.

But yeah, TA would soooo own GRIMDARK if the Warp and Dark/Star Gods weren't factored in.

>>1648228
Nah. But I was playing the demo since 97, got the commander pack in 99. I never really joined the TA community until 2003.
I also have more of those wallpapers, does anybody want me to upload them?

>>1647809

but TA didn't have any story, just a bunch of random units

>>1648260

What the fuck do you want, hero units and political intrigue?

Counts as mobile STC.

>>1648332
Maverick = BADASS

Also counts as mobile STC.

BETA MODEL FLASH RUSH! KEKEKEKE

Yay Core advanced construction sub.

>>1648337
Stat it.

>>1648260

It did, all there in the manual. And seriously, all the actual story was constructed by the fans piecing together what they had.

And it still is awesome.

Also, the UEF titan is not 40 feet high but more like 40 meters high, the factories themselves are about 100 * 100 * 100 meters. (AT tech 3).

Also, the ARM and the CORE are able to cut a planet in half to gather the ressources. Like in Xantippe's Abyss, a leftover of a gas giant cleaved and mined and then unused for several thousand years because it was too far away from the frontlines to actualy have a high rentability.

Also, they can assimilate technology extremely quickly, the capture of a CORE nuke lancher by the ARM was a plot point because the antinukes in use were hinted to be good enough to destroy a MIRVed nuke barrage without flinching.

It was also hinted that the CORE created an organic species to help them out called the Serpent. (The creation is hinted, not the actual Serpents, you get to fight them on a flooded world.)

>>1648646

Oh bullpoop, in Core Contingency those Serpents were mentioned as native to the planet IN THE CORE BRIEFING.

>>1648758
Thats just billy, we keep trying to delete him, but he keeps coming back.

>and you have to fight invincible necrons made of pure energy
0.0

Also, Necrons are made of nanites, and hopefully some of you remember the ability construction units had called "Capture"...

irc.boredirc.com #bored

>>1648902

eh?

What began as a conflict over the transfer of conciousness from flesh to machines escalated into a war which has decimated a million worlds. The Core and the Arm have all but exhausted the resources of a galaxy in their struggle for domination. Both sides, now crippled beyong repair, the remnants of their armies continue to battle on ravaged planets. Their hatred fueled by over four thousand years of total war.
This is a fight to the death.
For each side the only acceptable outcome is the total annihilation of the other.

>>1648963
GRIMDARKEST OR GRIMDARKEST UNIVERSE THERE IS?

>>1648963
Why does that sound more grimdark then warhammer 40k?

>>1648963
Kosmic Kitsunes!

>>1648974

>>1648994
It doesn't

>>1648998

go back to your bed rick priestley

>>1648996

Cosmic what?

Sorry, I don't come from whatever weeaboo hole you crawled out of.

Swap short lived bodies for immortal machine ones?

Do it all in the name of helping everyone?

Sounding pretty Taucron there Core.

>>1648994
Not it's not. The worst that can happen in TA is the status quo. Eventually someone will win and no matter who does it'll still be "humans" in charge of the galaxy. Even if they are in machine bodies. Even if (worst case) the Core blows up the galaxy then at least humans get a clean death

Not so in 40k.
If the Imperium falls then humans end up as cattle for the Necrons, slaves to Orcs, playthings to Daemons, recycled into tyranids, etc
Worse, they can't foreseeably eliminate any of these threats (unless the Emporer returned or something).
Frankly, simple extinction sounds preferable.

You know, I think this is the first time that /tg/ admitted that someone could actually defeat TEH WALLHAMMER. Where are all the whiny fanboys gone?
I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOU ANYMORE, /TG/!

Minor nitpick:

The implosion device itself is protected from the death and rebirth of the galaxy. The Core ending clearly shows and states that the last Core Commander survived at the center of the device, watched the galaxy reform and rebuilt Core in a virgin galaxy.

>>1649216
Except the status quo is true flat-out eternal war, worse than the worst nightmare. It really is "only war", not 40k "stop to pray every other planet" faggotry. two unstoppable, devouring the galaxies No such thing as peace, ever. TA lives up to 40k's "no respite no forgiveness" tagline way better.

Compared to TA, 40k has hope, faith and human achievement, even if at its worst GRIMDARK soulrape is infinitely nastier than a BLoD in the face.

TA is darker because of the pathos, because they've destroyed their own civilisation trying to destroy the other other, because every human achievement has become part of the war.

Don't get me wrong, 40K is GRIMDARK out the ass and I love it, but intellectually TA has a deep hopelessness about it that's so much more depressing.

>>1649262

This thread should be archived. I for one, support our CORE overlords and have submitted a request.

What anime is this?

>>1649343

tiny snow fairy sugar

>>1649299
That's even better. If Core arrived in the WH galaxy (and were patient) they could just do that.

Even better it would eliminate the threat of Chaos corruption and the stargods as all the things they feed on are eliminated. The Chaos gods will perish and the C'tan will starve (though it takes quite a while)

...unless Core KBots had souls and desires then chaos are back. But I find that unlikely since they're emotionless machines now

Hrrmn. Wonder how arm and core would fare on THE GREAT WHEEL

>>1649404
Whats the GREAT WHEEL?

>>1649366
LIAR!

>>1649411

>Planescape is a campaign setting for the Dungeons & Dragons fantasy role-playing game, originally designed by Zeb Cook. As its name suggests, the setting crosses and comprises the numerous planes of existence, encompassing an entire cosmology called the Great Wheel.

>>1649428
Thanks

>>1649414

Okay, okay. For real this time.

It's Stringendo.

>>1649313
>>1649331
I thought the war ended in Core Contingency? And after only about 4000 years

Meanwhile the Imperium fought for 10,000 years and continues to fight against foes that the are physically impossible to defeat (e.g. Chaos)

>>1649452
Imperium fights for 10,000 years with shitty unbelievably inefficient tech. Chainsaws are all very GRIMDARK and cool, but what they ain't is weapons of total war. Their enemies would be who number in the hundreds of thousands at most and only seem to launch fairly sporadic raids (if they were doing it that often, don't you think they might be kind of, I dunno, DEAD after ten thousand years of straight combat?) Core and Arm fight for 4,000 with insanely advanced exploiting/processing/construction tech and fuck the entire galaxy. TA has the resources of an entire world being turned into robots which then junk each other, all in a matter of days. That is much, much more intense and devastating war than anything 40k has, including Nids. tl;dr Either Arm or Core could easily fuck the Imperium or any other 40k faction in a couple of months, tops.

And yeah, war ended with "toast the entire universe except one Core Commander", hell of a contingency plan.

>>1649500
Even though the scale of war is much smaller I found WH much darker and grimmer due to the sheer futility of the war and worse-than-death fates e.g...

* The TA wars ended. Humans win no matter which side triumphed
* The WH wars will NEVER END. Humans can never win

* The worst that can ultimately happen to you in the TA galaxy is death (the best being winning and becoming immortal)
* The best (or at least one of the better) that that can ultimately happen to you in the WH is death (the worst is being tormented by Chaos for eternity)

>>1649500
Oh yeah and the shitty, inefficient tech which hasn't advanced in 10,000 years also adds a sense of stagnation, decline and going nowhere to WH

TA counts as Dark Age of Technology warfare.

So... Warhammer Fantasy vs TA Kingdoms. Who would win?

>>1649603

= about what Arm are
=/= human

and Core are way, way worse.

>>1649663
err no. Even if humanity united at the height of the dark age of technology they still can't stand against Arm/Core as it is now (which are only "remnants" of the original armies)

>>1649603
That same grim darkness is why I hate 40k so much.

>>1649339
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/1641127

Vote it up, fags.

>>1649744
That's probably because you're a faggot.

>>1649697
Whether I end up as an AI, a brain in a tank or the frail cancer-prone body I'm in now makes no difference to me personally. Actually I'd prefer being the AI =P

Can't we agree that WH 40k is GRIMDARK set in a more fantasy like setting?

While TA is GRIMDARK in a more realistic setting?

That way theres more then one flavor of GRIMDARK of equal magnitudes.

>>1649827
TA is sci fi.

>>1649697
Both are STILL better than some of the fates your likely to get in WH.

At least after the TA wars have finished your mind will either live on free or have the peace of the grave

Or you could just play WH40KTA: http://wta.tauniverse.com

>>1649744
gb2StarTrek


Happy pink-lazer scifi-fag.

>>1649986

appreciate the link but shitdamn that looks nasty

>>1650046
TA's engine is old, and not everyone is an expert modeler. Wait for the Spring WH40k mod.

I have prettier 3d screenshots, but then I'd confuse people trying to explain how comes it was from an actual TA game and not Spring.

>>1650070
There's a replayer thing for which can play recorded TA battles using the 3d models and terrain rather than recording, and lets you fully explore that, so you can see the game in 3d in ways you can't get while actually playing with the original TA engine.

Explained for you. So post.

Bumping because I can.

>>1650338
>>1650344

bump, why not

>>1648222
LOL.
Dragonbot, complete with teeth.