So you drop masses of special guns behind the enemy mspearhead, melta all the strong units to slag and then chuck huge ordance grenades on his infantry?

It SOUNDS awesome.

those are some hella expensive suicide units.

One of the only viable ones.

>>1506074
So how exactly is this ment to be played?
HQ + 2 special gun teams + 3 vet teams deep strike?

The pic is far more hilarious than it should be.

>>1506091

What do you mean? It seems pretty self explanatory.

>>1506091

HQ stays down for leadership to keep fireline fighting. Everything else drops and kills stuff. Platoon command squads can also be used for this purpose (4 plasma guns).

>>1506102
I mean do i derp strike every god damn last man or just the meltateams?
and what 3 other doctrines?
-Drop infantry
-Veterans
-Shapshooters?
-Carapace Armour?
-Close Order Drill?

and what else should I include than 3 vet teams, HQ, minimum troops and the 3 tanks (2 Basi 1 Demo)?

If your HQ, hardened vets and special weapons squads are all DEAP STRIKING FOR DA EMPORAGH you'll need something to tie up your enemy while you make reserve rolls. Get some conscripts to spam lasfire while you're waiting for the bad boys to DEAP STRIEHK.

Take heavy weapon teams.

Now THAT is a deep strike.

>>1506126
Right. Initial list, no point costs.

HQ
HSO, plasma pistol
4 plasma guns

2 special weapon squads
-5 meltaguns, Democharge
-5 meltaguns, Democharge

3 hardened Veteran squads (5 men + Srg)
-3 meltaguns, Lascannon
-3 plasma guns, Heavy Bolter
-3 plasma guns, Missile Launcher

Troop platoon 1
-4 plasmaguns, officer plasma pistol
-plasmagun, lascannon
-plamagun, lascannon

Troop platoon 2
-4 meltaguns, plasma pistol
-meltagun, lascannon
-meltagun, lascannon

2 basilisks
Leman Russ Demolisher
-plasma sponsons, imp comms.

WHAT DO I ADD TO THIS?

This strategy of ambush is a good one. However military strategy dictates that effective communication is better than firepower. have your men carry vox casters

Heavy weapons are wasted on vet squads. They can't shoot them on the turn they deep strike and they'll rarely last longer than one turn if your opponent has any sense. Keep your deep striking units solely on assault weapons and cheap so when your opponent wastes 200 points of fire warriors shooting them you can laugh and tell him they only cost you 75 points.

meltaguns don't belong in guard, get something with range further than 12 inches. You can't kill enough enemies at that range.

HQ (D)
HSO, plasma pistol
3 plasma guns, master vox

2 special weapon squads (D)
-5 meltaguns, Democharge
-5 meltaguns, Democharge

3 hardened Veteran squads (4 men + Srg) (D)
-3 meltaguns, plasma pistol or sarge
-3 plasma guns, plasma pistol or sarge
-3 plasma guns, plasma pistol or sarge

Troop platoon 1
-4 plasmaguns, officer plasma pistol (D)
-lascannon, vox
-lascannon, vox

Troop platoon 2
-4 meltaguns, plasma pistol (D)
-lascannon, vox
-lascannon, vox

20 Conscripts

2 basilisks
Leman Russ Demolisher
-plasma sponsons, imp comms.

2.0, (D) marks the derp striking units.

>>1506325
what if I STEEL RHEEN behind enemy tanks and slag them?

>>1506329
The guardsmen were standing. There were enemies on the field, they knew. Long ago they had watched the armies kill xenos and said one day we want to kill too but the colonel had said NO YOU WILL BE KILL BY ENEMY. There was a time they had believed but no more but now they knew the colonel was right.
The vox cracled. STEEL REHN! SOME STAY DRAH AND OTHER FEEL THE PEHN!
And then the skies split apart as dozens of veterans, firing furiously with their plasma and melta weaponry, dived from the sky like human piledriver bombs with teratonnes of awesome in their warheads.

After the firestorm died down, the guardsmen looked at the field before them. The enemy was no more, melted and incinerated to dust and slag. The veterans were nowhere to be found, seemingly destroyed alongside the enemy.
A single tear rolled down the cheek of a guadsman. One day, he too would do that for the Emperor.

>>1506329
How the hell do you get 6 special weapons on your special weapon squads, if the max limit is 3?

>>1506329

Special weapon teams can have only 3 special weapons

>>1506432
got my numbers fucked up, sry.
2 special weapon squads (D)
-2 meltaguns, Democharge
-2 meltaguns, Democharge

>>1506416
aaaaaand OP's army is now awesome.
good job.

>>1506416
EXCUSE ME WTF ARE U DOING.

Make an ormy full of Ogryns and a Priest.
NOBODY WILL EXPECT THIS!

>>1506519
That's my other configuration.
-priests
-ogryns
-abhumans
-feral ogryns
-hardened fighters

Comissars, priests and officers with power weapons EVERYWHERE.
3 basilisks

FINAL DESTINATION.

OP needs more allied Inquisitor lords with huge gunplatform retinues.

>>1506519
We'll call that Plan Stupid. I named it after ya.

>>1506552
while >>1506519
is plain stupid, what about >>1506527
then?

Not OP here, but I made a list for this STEEL REHN idea with calculated point costs:

Doctrines:
- Drop Troops
- Veterans
- Special Weapons Squads
- Sharpshooters
- Iron Disciple

HQ:
Command Platoon
- Heroic Senior Command Squad (75), Iron Disciple (5), Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Meltaguns (3x10), Master-Vox (25)
- Special Weapons Squad (35), 2 Meltaguns (2x15), Demolition Charge (10)
- Special Weapons Squad (35), 2 Meltaguns (2x15), Demolition Charge (10)
= 295

ELITE:
Hardened Veterans (45) w/ Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Plasmaguns (3x10) = 85
Hardened Veterans (45) w/ Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Plasmaguns (3x10) = 85
Hardened Veterans (45) w/ Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Plasmaguns (3x10) = 85

TROOP:
Infantry Platoon
- Junior Command Squad (40), Plasma Pistol (10), 4 Plasmaguns (4x10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
= 270
Infantry Platoon
- Junior Command Squad (40), Plasma Pistol (10), 4 Plasmaguns (4x10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
= 270

HEAVY:
Basilisk (100), Improved Comms (20) = 120
Basilisk (100), Improved Comms (20) = 120
Leman Russ Demolisher (150), Heavy Bolter (5), Extra Armour (5), Plasma Cannons (20) = 180

Total: 1500

>>1506588

cont'd
7 Meltaguns, 6 Plasma Pistols, 17 Plasmaguns, 2 Plasma Cannons, 4 Lascannons. After GW claridied how multiple Improved Comms work, you can now reroll 2 separate reserve-rolls for more certain STEEL REHN.

>>1506588
OP here, can you add another 500pts into that as I play mostly 2000?
Much <3 to you.

>>1506613
Okay, working that in the list now...

>>1506606
Ho-ley shite! That's some SERIOUS pain. I think this could REALLY kill stuff.

Okay, correction to >>1506588 you have to remove the Plasma Pistol from the Senior Heroic officer to get it to 1500 points. That's what you get for planning a list while ill. Anyways, here's the 2000 point list, added some hellhounds for the firestorm.

Doctrines:
- Drop Troops
- Veterans
- Special Weapons Squads
- Sharpshooters
- Iron Disciple

HQ:
Command Platoon
- Heroic Senior Command Squad (75), Iron Disciple (5), 3 Meltaguns (3x10), Master-Vox (25)
- Special Weapons Squad (35), 2 Meltaguns (2x15), Demolition Charge (10)
- Special Weapons Squad (35), 2 Meltaguns (2x15), Demolition Charge (10)
= 285

ELITE:
Hardened Veterans (45) w/ Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Plasmaguns (3x10) = 85
Hardened Veterans (45) w/ Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Plasmaguns (3x10) = 85
Hardened Veterans (45) w/ Plasma Pistol (10), 3 Plasmaguns (3x10) = 85

TROOP:
Infantry Platoon
- Junior Command Squad (40), Plasma Pistol (10), 4 Plasmaguns (4x10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
= 270
Infantry Platoon
- Junior Command Squad (40), Plasma Pistol (10), 4 Plasmaguns (4x10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
= 270
Infantry Platoon
- Junior Command Squad (40), Plasma Pistol (10), 4 Plasmaguns (4x10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
- Infantry Squad (60), Lascannon (25), Vox-caster (5)
= 270

FAST:
Hellhound (115) = 115
Hellhound (115) = 115

HEAVY:
Basilisk (100), Improved Comms (20) = 120
Basilisk (100), Improved Comms (20) = 120
Leman Russ Demolisher (150), Heavy Bolter (5), Extra Armour (5), Plasma Cannons (20) = 180

Total: 2000

>>1506679
lovely <3

>>1506679

By the Throne. Think that'd actually be competitive? It looks kick-ass but I'm not actually a warhamms player.

>>1506721
It's playable. The infantry blocks can soak fire especialy with Iron Dicipline and all the voxes going, while returning lascannon blasts, supported by 2 basilisks and the Demolisher spearheading alongside the Hellhounds. When the reserve rolls ARE managed, the sky will rain cheap units armed to the teeth with high-punch assault guns. Drop the meltas near vehicles and the plasmas elsewhere, unleash hell, laugh as the squad is wiped out by an enemy unit costing ten times its points. When in range, UNLEASH THE CAPS LOCK THAT IS THE DEMOLISHER.

>>1506721

Well, Deep Striking does give it a little risk on it, but let's look at what that list has against different types of enemies:

Heavy Vechiles, Terminators etc. - 21 Plasmaguns, 6 Plasma Pistols, 7 Meltaguns, 6 Lascannons, 2 Plasma Cannons, 2 Earthshakers and the Demolisher. We can safely assume that this firepower will be enough to take on even the most vechile-heavy list.

Swarms - 64 lasguns, 2 Earthshakers, 2 Inferno Cannons, Demolisher, 2 Demolition Charges, 2 Plasma Cannons, Heavy Bolter; and if that's not enough, we pull in all the Plasma & Melta weaponry.

Fast assault things - Like all guard, this list has nothing that can survive against assault-oriented units, BUT we have two great ways to counteract them. Firstly, we prevent them from getting into melee with our tanks. Secondly, we prevent them from getting into melee by deep striking next to them and showing them the might of STEEL REHN.

tl;dr: STEEL REHN for every situation.

>>1506766
IT IS BUT GUARDSMEN! CHARGE FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

*in the distance* Steel rehn, some stay dry and other feel the pehn...

WHAT THE GODSHIT?

DEEPSTRIKE FOR THE EMPEROR! *meltameltameltameltamelta*

Competitive? it might. Your opponent will spend so much time thinking wtf you doing that you will be able to take him down.

Truth be told? It might. someone gotta run a few tests to see.

>>1506766
how would it work agains, say, NidZilla or Necrons?

>>1506842
Indeed. This is potentialy both the most fun and one of the most fun configurations of a IG army.

>>1506848

Nidzilla? This list would easily rape them. Just look at the sheer amount of weapons that ignore Tyrants' and 'Fexies' armour saves in here (hint: over 40) statistically you'd need 2,25 Veteran plasma squads to take down a tyrant or a fex in one turn. We get lots of those, and lascannons etc.

Necrons, not so sure with them. The AP would be nice, but We'll Be Back would be a pain. At least you could deal with destroyers easily, by deepstriking few squads next to them and wiping them out, denying them their We'll Be back rolls. You'd just have to trust to the EMPEROR and STEEL REHN.

>>1506887
Also I think STEHL RHEN would be nice to drop around the monolith and nuke it to slag, then have the Negron between two fronts.

>>1506925

We'll have to rely on our Meltaguns, Lascannons and heavy artillery to take down the Monoliths, since Plasmaweaponry lacks the strenght to pierce the AV14. But we have lots of melta and firepower, so we don't have to worry about the monolith: once we destroy that it's ALL OVER.

>>1506925
ANY army is going to shit bricks when in the front you have a wall of lasguns and three tanks, and at the back you got like 40 special guns pointed at your ass

If this army becomes any better it's going to need drawfaggotry.

Too bad one can't model an army to be as cool as this sounds...

Melta's near useless versus a monolith because of the living metal rule. You lose the extra d6 on penetration.

Just avoid the monolith and deepstrike beside the warrior squads to kill them and force phase out.

>>1507028
he can still lob ordance and lascannons at it

ITT: IG stops being I shoot and shoot and goes into I STEEL REH FOR THE EMPEROR AND DOESN'T AFRAID OF ANYTHING.

This is now the new epitomic IG. All earlier attempts at cool IG are now Null.

>>1507201
... shucks.

>>1506999
You only need a shirtless torso and a Commissar with a Mustache to make this work

I have a quick question about the plasma guns, aren't there some sort of inherent danger to them?
Something that maybe Space Marines can get away with, but mundane people with flak armour might not?

Also, THIS REGIMENT. WE NEED WRITE/DRAWFAGGOTRY ON THIS REGIMENT.

>>1507359

I can write when I'm motivated, but does this deserve humorous writefaggotry or srs writefaggotry? I'm thinking srs.

I've been playing an IG army like this for years. Took you fucks a while to figure out, I see. Ah well, I have no problem with you learning a thing or two from the Luridian 13th Penal Legion.

THE EMPEROR'S TEARS DO NOT LIGHTLY FALL

*THUDTHUDTHUD whirrrr PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW KABOOM*

>>1507567
The Rehnian 7th "Ironstorm"

>>1509211
Man what.

The Luridian 13th Penal Legion is formed of what's left over after 100 penal legions get tossed into battle for 10 years. All remainders were consolidated under the banner of the 13th Penal Legion, and they're now a unit of die-hard veterans who are (in finest penal legion tradition) sent on the suicide runs. Their battlecry is "Redemtion in death" and the unit motto is "None left alive" -- not the enemy, not them. A portion of the legion is left behind as cadre each time, and all the rest go out to die. I am aware that this is less than coherent, but it's rather late and I, true to form, haven't slept in quite some time.

>>1507212

Give him a 'tache like this guy.

Somehow I absolutelt love the idea of a regiment where the veterans lead by example, leaping out of low-flight valkyries witout grav-chutes and just fire like insane while in mid-drop, getting killed as soon as they land. The next wave is made up of the guardsmen who saw this act of unhinged awesome and wanted to do the same.

>>1509282

Welcome to the Elysian Drop-troops, soldier. Here's your las carbine. We jump in five minutes.

>>1509291
not as cool as
"Welcome to the Ironstorm. Shoot that way untill the vets arive"
"What vets-"
*STEEEEEEELLLL RHEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNN* *PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW BOOOOM*
"...holey shit-"

>>1509335
I'd join...

This is too good not to save.

STEEL RHEEN bump

Listmaker here; well, since this thread is losing its flare, I have the lists saved and am willing to post them in future if required. Just remember to use the same awesome pic that the OP used.

Also, if you have a good idea for any army list (except for SPEESH MERIINESH), I'm willing to try to do all the calculating and micromanagment.

>>1511613
Thread archived.
also you could try giving a Ork Armoured Krumpany / Stoel Ren (can orks deepstrike??) / Mass meganob + loota army, or the idea put out by >>1506527

>>1511621
Hmm, missed that idea; have to work on it.

Doctrines:
- Veterans
- Sharpshooters
- Hardened Fighters
- Warrior Weapons
- Light Infantry

HQ:
Command Platoon
- Heroic Senior Officer (70) w/ Power weapon (5), Surveyor (2), 4 Veterans (4x6) w/ Laspistols & CCW, Frag Grenades (5x1), Meltabombs (5x5), Medic (5), Standard Bearer (5) w/ Regimental Standard (20), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
= 186

ELITES:
5 Hardened Veterans (45), Power Weapon (5), Laspistols & CCWs, Hardened Fighters (15) = 65
5 Hardened Veterans (45), Power Weapon (5), Laspistols & CCWs, Hardened Fighters (15) = 65
5 Hardened Veterans (45), Power Weapon (5), Laspistols & CCWs, Hardened Fighters (15) = 65

TROOPS:
Infanry Platoon
- Junior Heroic Officer (40), 4 Veterans (4x6), Laspistols & CCW, Power weapon (5), Frag Grenades (5x1), Meltabombs (5x5), Medic (5), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infanry (10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Veteran Sergeant (6) w/ Power Weapon (5), Meltagun (10), Laspistols & CCWs (8x2), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Veteran Sergeant (6) w/ Power Weapon (5), Meltagun (10), Laspistols & CCWs (8x2), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
= 373
Infanry Platoon
- Junior Heroic Officer (40), 4 Veterans (4x6), Laspistols & CCW, Power weapon (5), Frag Grenades (5x1), Meltabombs (5x5), Medic (5), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infanry (10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Veteran Sergeant (6) w/ Power Weapon (5), Meltagun (10), Laspistols & CCWs (8x2), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Veteran Sergeant (6) w/ Power Weapon (5), Meltagun (10), Laspistols & CCWs (8x2), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
= 373
Infanry Platoon
- Junior Heroic Officer (40), 4 Veterans (4x6), Laspistols & CCW, Power weapon (5), Frag Grenades (5x1), Meltabombs (5x5), Medic (5), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infanry (10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Veteran Sergeant (6) w/ Power Weapon (5), Meltagun (10), Laspistols & CCWs (8x2), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
- Infantry Squad (60), Veteran Sergeant (6) w/ Power Weapon (5), Meltagun (10), Laspistols & CCWs (8x2), Hardened Fighters (15), Light Infantry (10)
= 373

Total: 1500

Allright, I TRIED to find a way how to use Ogryns and priests, but I couldn't find a way over their suckiness. But while doing that, I got the idea of a sneaky IG army. Really SNEAKY.

Here's the thing: Every Single Mothafucking Model Infiltrates. That's right, you get 95 infiltrators in your army. I'd love to see the look on my opponent's face when I tell him that I don't have anything to deploy, since they all infiltrate. Anyways, time to sleep for a change.

Also, switch the Sharpshooters for Close Order Drill, if you want extra-melee'y guard.

>>1512017
JESUS JIGGERWATS.
This is so insane it is brilliant.
SNEAKER GUARD VS STEEL RHEEN, GO.

SQUAD BROKEN

>>1512294
For some reason this looked much more awesome in my head.

>>1512308
... probably because in my head they didn't get the luxury of parachutes.

>>1512314
... and were nose-diving face-first shooting crazy while looking all FOR THE EMPEROR.

>>1512314
...fuck.

sorry for the shittyness of the drawing, quick sketch + barely any art education does not really equal quality.

>>1512319
AND THAT'S HOW THE REHNIAN 7th WORKS.
NO PARACHUTES
NO SURVIVORS
DEEP STRIKE ONLY
ANY GOD DAMN STAGE YOU WANT.

>>1512308
At first I was going to call you a gigantic faggot...

>>1512314
>>1512319
>>1512357
But then I realized that this really DOES sound more awesome.

Listfag here; couldn't get sleep due to illness, decided to see what's going on, saw how the drawfag failed to capture the spirit.

Took a pen, and scribbled Rhenian 7th

>>1512698
This was also done in 5 minutes, after a good night's sleep I'll make a more accurate version.

>>1512698
Oh wow.

The old Force Commander would be proud.

>>1512748
Nice to know. Anyways, if this thread is alive tomorrow, I'll post a more detailed one. Now I'll try to sleep once more.