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    533 KB Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:13 No.1031096  
    so /tg/ how come ALL the links in rapidsearch for cthulhutech are down....

    can you provide another source?
    Marked for deletion (old).
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:17 No.1031119
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:18 No.1031128
    They even got the porn + CTech link? Sheesh
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:21 No.1031143
    thanks a lot
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:33 No.1031193
    "The file CthulhuTech_-_Core_Rule_Book.pdf IS FORBIDDEN TO BE SHARED and is black-listed."

    Wish it would tell me this BEFORE I upload it. Some pretty angry bold red text they got going on.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:36 No.1031217
    Thanks for the try Anon. Rename, Retry?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:40 No.1031238
    hm, i see...
    that's bad...
    guess i'll have to get it from anywhere else
    thanks anyways ^^
    >> Lord Licorice 01/17/08(Thu)23:40 No.1031240

    Alter the file in some way. Much like 4chan detects duplicate images based on the hash, just renaming the file isn't enough, but even a minor modification will fix it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:44 No.1031268
    Working on it
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:45 No.1031275
    I got mine here

    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:49 No.1031288
    thanks a lot
    >> Anonymous 01/17/08(Thu)23:55 No.1031313

    With a pack of lovecraft stories you've probably all read as a bonus.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)00:06 No.1031375
    Thanks guys!
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)00:38 No.1031517

    Who needs a collection of stories in their rar when you've got the complete library of his works available for free on the internet?

    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)03:23 No.1032118
    shub shub niggurath

    hopefully some drawfag will soon come up with good pornography ctech-style.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)04:52 No.1032448

    This is CthulhuTech. No, seriously, we did it to avade the internet police.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:09 No.1032956
    is this seriously the book?
    or is it more touhou futa?

    either's fine, i just like knowing which i'm getting when i download
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:11 No.1032958
    >>1032448 are the actual CthulhuTech book.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:13 No.1032962
    ...very well
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:15 No.1032970
    Dead already, yeesh.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:17 No.1032975
    I wonder why they think Cthulhu would be the most dangerous or whatever god. (The book states something like this.)

    Definetely, he isn't.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:18 No.1032977
    He's not said to be the most dangerous. He's just one of the prominent of the old ones on Earth because he tends to attract the most cultists.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)08:19 No.1032981
    okay.. well, he IS prominent indeed.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)10:37 No.1033236
    Azathoth is less dangerous because he's not on Earth.
    Hastur doesn't exist.
    Nyarlathotep is cunning and dangerous, but less powerful.
    Tsathoggua is too lazy.
    Shub-Niggurath sticks to the backwoods.
    Yog-Sothoth isn't on earth.
    Cthulhu is the most dangerous not because he's powerful but because he's here, he has an army of his progeny, servitor races and cultists, he could wake up any minute and when the stars are right he plans to take the world for himself.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)10:47 No.1033256

    Found this one, but don't know the password, so don't know if it's real.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)10:54 No.1033270
    Password is 7chan.org
    It's real.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:01 No.1033292
    Why don't we just put it on bittorent?
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:03 No.1033296

    Hastur does exist. He's the unnamed god that was called up in Asia.

    They just couldn't use the name 'King in Yellow' because of copyright issues.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:05 No.1033302

    What the hell? Has somebody from /tg/ been snitching?
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:06 No.1033304

    Also, technically, Yog is everywhere.

    He is the key and the door.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:15 No.1033330
    Nyarlathotep is far, far more powerful then Cthulhu, seeing as he is actually a god rather then just an incredibly advanced alien lifeform.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:33 No.1033382

    And yet Nyarlothotep's plan is still to wake up Cthulhu.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:35 No.1033392
    Copyright issues? On 'King in Yellow?'

    All of Lovecraft should be fair use and public domain by now...
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:36 No.1033394

    Because Nyarly likes to party.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)11:37 No.1033399
    What really is nyarly, though? I mean, even as a God, the mythos always painted Gods as something real, even if extradimensional. Although I don't really get why he'd be out to wake up Cthulhu.
    >> I apologized on 4chan 01/18/08(Fri)11:41 No.1033406

    That and he's been spinning his wheels a lot lately. Guy needs to think up some new fresh material, stuff like he used to do in the bad old days.
    I mean running that corporation was a good idea, but it just seems so.. impersonal you know?
    He used to be able to get right inside peoples skins, figureatively and literally speaking.
    Remember the time he used strange machines of metal and glass to end a civilisation and bring it back again as part of a travelling show act?
    He needs to stop being so conventional, and start thinking outside the box again.
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:41 No.1033407

    I just say what I've heard.

    Someone else could probably confirm why they couldn't use it, but Hastur is undoubtedly in the game.

    Direct from the book, the avatar of the Dead God Hastur comes into the world in 2073. Later, in the same are, the Unnamed Oneproceeds to lead the Rapine Storm across Asia.

    It is undoubtedly him, they just can't use 'King in Yellow' for some reason.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)11:42 No.1033409
    That probably came from the designers deciding they NEEDED an evil corporation run by cultists.

    Which is still not as fucked up a design element as the Nazzadi.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:44 No.1033412
    The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are, and the Old Ones shall be. Not in the spaces we know, but between them, they walk serene and primal, undimensioned and to us unseen. Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They had trod earth's fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)11:50 No.1033433

    Nyarlathotep's the only one of the Outer Gods that actually thinks and plans. I mean, Azathoth is literally just a massive protoplasm that giggles and bubbles at the centre of the universe. Nyarlathotep is the soul and messenger of the Outer Gods, no matter how much he hates it.

    He enjoys fucking about with humanity and all the other races, in all his forms.
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:52 No.1033438

    Because we hate you.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)11:54 No.1033444
    Seriously though, can anyone really explain why the Nazzadi? I mean, the Mi-go made them to match our fears, effectively. Black skin, weird silvery patterns and red eyes doesn't really seem to be along those lines.
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:55 No.1033446

    Couldn't tell ya, honestly. I think the only reason to have them in there is the 'we need a second race' factor.
    >> Kharn of the Ascended People's Horde 01/18/08(Fri)11:55 No.1033447
    Because even though he's a god, he's also an asshole.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)11:56 No.1033453
    That's pretty much how I saw it. I'm almost tempted to cut them, and just adapt the history to a single arcanotech war. I like pretty much everything in the book apart from them.

    That said, I'm still trying to get a plot together...
    >> King in Yellow 01/18/08(Fri)11:59 No.1033459

    I don't mind the Nazzadi personally. I won't be running a Cthulhutech game any time soon, though.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)12:00 No.1033463
    They just feel tacked on. I'll probably leave them in to save headaches, and I can think of a fair few plots involving anti-Nazzadi movements in the NEG.

    It's the overall plot, and trying to mesh mecha and investigative play that I'm currently pondering.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)12:01 No.1033465

    Do they actually have pointy ears?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)12:02 No.1033470
    Hey guys, remember somebody from Cthulhu tech watches /tg/. Who else would have done all the viral advertising?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)12:17 No.1033525
    Personally, I like the Nazzadi although they really aren't GRIMDARK enough. And yes, ther'll be lots of racism around. Quite something that could destroy humanity from within.

    Also, more porn plox.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)12:31 No.1033594
    Lets just find some people to play with.. first time roleplaying game for me. Not on the PC, that is.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:26 No.1033781
    We're not Mongoose, we're just a couple of gamers that put together this book in our free time and it was allot of hard work. Mongoose is graciously helping us with printing and distribution otherwise we wouldn't be able to afford to put the book out.

    We don't have offices and we don't have a staff. I left active duty Navy life last January as a recently promoted E-5 and never even saw the pay. My wife and I have blown through what little savings we had to keep us afloat the last year while I finishing work on the book. (That you now have effectively stolen from me.)
    >> Mike V 01/18/08(Fri)13:26 No.1033785
    I used every spare moment that I had in the last 3 years on active duty to design everything you see in front of you. Matthew Grau did 95% of the writing. In total I spent over 7000 hrs working on both improving as an artist and trying my best to make our first book look as good as it can and give Matthews creation the level of art that it deserved.

    In printing in color it was our decision to do so and sacrifice profits to give back to the community. One of the reasons we made the book is because we were sick of seeing crappy products being released by companies that have finances available to them to do more. With what cash we could get together between us and allot of hard work we knew that we could put together something as good as what was being passed off as professional material in the hobby games industry. I think that we've accomplished that. You should be demanding more for your money from the big guys, but when you steal from the little guy like us, it really screws up our chances of continuing to work in this industry and put out even better products or make a difference.

    On the "viral marketing" comment, there are only 2 sites that we talked about the book on and that was rpg.net and yog-sothoth.com There was no viral campaign. If you heard about it from other sites, that wasn't me or Matthew. We couldn't even afford a graphic designer so I had to teach myself logo design, needless to say there was no money for marketing of any kind. I had never heard of 4chan until this past weekend when I was told that someone had uploaded a pdf of our book for download. Yes, I'm the guy that's been tracking down the links every day.
    >> Mike V 01/18/08(Fri)13:27 No.1033787
    If you like what you see, buy a copy.
    We're working on putting together a pdf as well so for those of you that are strapped for cash, you can get the official high res version soon.. we just have to sit down and organize the files.

    If the illegal pdf continues to be distributed illegally, there's a high chance that you'll only get see 1 more book from us before we have to call it quits. We've already put production on hold until we receive our first check from Mongoose and seeing what's going on on this site isn't building any confidence in our ability to survive.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:30 No.1033795
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    So tell me, "Mike V", did you end up downloading Touhou futa porn first?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:31 No.1033804

    gb2 /b/
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:32 No.1033810
    There's a chance that he's the real deal:


    >I am stunned.

    >There is a group of guys on 4chan.org who are behaving like bullies or sadists. The things that they have said and done surprise me.

    >They believe that they should pirate CthulhuTech. They believe that we are ridiculous for trying to serve our customers. They have stated that they want to organize the internet to put us out of business.

    >All while most of them saying that they want CthulhuTech and want to play it.

    >I don't know any of these guys, as far as I know. I know that I have done nothing to them to deserve this kind of treatment. I have endured insults from faceless people who are intent on destroying what I am trying to build, all because they believe they are entitled.

    >If anyone here knows (or is) one of these people, invite them to PM me on this message board and have a real conversation with me. If you are going to hate me that much and declare yourself my enemy, please get to know me first and threaten me face to face. I won't return that favor. I will talk to you like a reasonable human being, because that is what I am.

    >That's it. I had to get that out of my space so that I can get back to serving the rest of you – the people who love CthulhuTech and are interesting in supporting us so that we can keep giving you more of it. To you, salute. I value you now more than ever.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:39 No.1033825
    Since he's "the guy that's been tracking down the links every day", yeah, I guess he got at least one batch of futa.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:41 No.1033831
    Hell, being an Ausfag it's almost impossible to find books in stores, and I've bought only 3 D&D books in my entire life, but I plan on buying CthulhuTech.

    And here's the important reason:
    Because I got the pdf from here. And liked it.
    I'm sure there's others, too.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:42 No.1033833

    I don't really give a damn about C-Tech but now I'm going to have to obtain a downloaded copy, share it in torrents, via rapidshare and zipped and given to friends and will do the same to any expansions I see made by the same people in the future.

    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)13:42 No.1033834
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    That is pretty lol if fake, pretty saddening if real. But don't panic. People here are buying it, I'm one of them. We pirate everyone, its not exactly a high quality scan and the scanner themselves recommend getting it. We need to see if we like it.

    Incidentally, if you want a cheap way to improve your awesome post more high res versions of your art at least on your site, picture related.

    Get me a Migou mechs version and I'll fucking love you for life.
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)13:44 No.1033837


    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)13:45 No.1033842

    If you are the real deal, you guys did such an awesome job on the book I felt guilty for pirating the book (so i bought it), and when you release the high res pdf, I'll buy that too since you guys deserve my money.

    If any books should be pirated, its WotC shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:46 No.1033847

    Sweet zombie Jesus this may be /tg/ but this is still 4chan. If you're for real don't post stuff like this, you will attract trolls by the boatload.

    And go get that cheque from the navy.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:49 No.1033856
    Sadly, I'm a QLDfag.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:50 No.1033858

    ...I have just deleted my copy of the pirated PDF. You've made an interesting book, and I might take you up on that legit PDF version when you get it prepped.

    I happen to have a deep and abiding love for piracy in all its forms. This once, though, I think I would rather not be involved in fucking over another artist. unfortunately, Anonymous will continue to distribute your content quite freely, because that is what anonymous does. I'm afraid you have a rough road ahead.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:50 No.1033859
    You can't play a game with a PDF, you must know that. It's too damn inconvenient- the only time I ever use PDFs in regular games is for things you don't need to refer to often, like D&D splatbooks with xomg awesome feats. And like hell can we afford to print off an entire book on student loans/crackwhore salaries.

    If we like the pdf, we'll buy the book. Chill.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:52 No.1033866
    Uploading to rapidshare, megaupload and sendspace. Will post links when done. Grab them quick before they get reported.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:52 No.1033867
    I would never ever hear about chtulhutech if not for 4chan.
    Now I'm thinking of buying a copy (after I take a look to the pdf, but I'm liking what I see).
    How's that harming the authors?
    Less baww, more riding the net.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:53 No.1033870

    I second that notion. If i hadn't have had the PDF to read, i wouldn't know whether the book was worth it or not, and since my LGS isn't stocking it as standard, i'd never get a chance to find out. Upon reading the PDF, i had the LGS guy order me one, which should be arriving this week.


    We don't hate the Cthulutech people, we just like to try before we buy.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)13:54 No.1033875
    well that in particular doesn't harm them, its the people that pirate it and don't end up buying it
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)13:55 No.1033884

    Then we both remain virgins. I guess I don't have to worry about having my brain eaten by my negaverse me.


    Man I love this place.

    /tg/: I must hate the moralfag
    Then the message board crackered "No /tg/, you are the moralfag"
    And then /tg/ mass brought Ctech.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:57 No.1033889
    i had almost no interest in this before the pdf, now im probably going to buy it after realising how cool it was
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:57 No.1033891
    Guilt tripping works exceptionally well, it seems.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)13:59 No.1033900
    I have a question
    If you have sex with your clone, is it actually sex or is it masturbation?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)13:59 No.1033906
    >well that in particular doesn't harm them, its the people that pirate it and use it it to play the game

    Some people download a copy, look through it, and DON'T like it. How does that harmt he company? It doesn't.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)14:00 No.1033911
    thanks anon
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:00 No.1033913
    stupid question, you are not your clone
    >> Mike V 01/18/08(Fri)14:01 No.1033921
    Yes, I am the real deal. That cover art and the mecha images that were posted is art that I penciled and had friends paint over. Regardless of the net trolls, I thought that it would be in everyones best interest that I tell everyone what's up and that we're not 'The Man'.

    Thanks for the compliments on the book though guys, we appreciate it. This book was a labor of love and I hope that it shows. If there's any questions that you might have or just want to learn more there's plenty of info on our forums. Including that Migou mecha picture that was requested for earlier.
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)14:01 No.1033922

    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:02 No.1033923
    Well, I like Mike V. I like Cthulhu tech. I am a casual role player, and frankly, I never would have heard of the book, let alone bought it, if it hadn't been for the attention it has got on this board.
    Downloading the .pdf was easy, and it enabled me to see whether I liked cthulhu tech. I mean, I wouldn't have bought it, because I don't DM, and I don't have a group, and I wouldn't have heard of it if it wasn't for this board.

    If I ever do decide to run a cthulhu tech campaign, I'll probably buy the book off amazon, since I already know it's a quality production. Reading off a pdf just isn't convenient. You know, my interest would have never been awakened if I had not read the pdf. That leaked .pdf hugely increased the chances of me buying your book.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)14:03 No.1033930
    well in that case wouldnt it be gay sex (assuming balls are touching)?

    ...I've been browsing /d/ to much lately haven't I if I'm thinking of this...
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:04 No.1033931
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:07 No.1033944
    >They believe that they should pirate CthulhuTech. They believe that we are ridiculous for trying to serve our customers.

    >They have stated that they want to organize the internet to put us out of business.


    >They have stated that they want to organize the internet to put us out of business.

    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:07 No.1033945
    I can't believe you guys are falling for this blatant VIRAL MARKETING!

    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:07 No.1033947
    I'm going to go PM those guys, make the case of anon. I mean, the idea that piracy is theft is just plain wrong. Piracy is advertising.
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)14:08 No.1033949

    I am going to seriously think this is legit and ask something.

    Speed enhancers, do you consider those to already be applied to mech statblocks or you apply them on top of whats listed? It's sort of confusing since not only do they die at certain SF levels but your normal speed is also reduced.

    And again I remind you not to take the piracy THAT seriously, look from a small distance at what you are trying to sell. Lovecraft with mechs. People say lovecraft spins in his grave from just mispronouncing god names let alone giving them ideals like shub's creation or Aza's entropy. Ctech sounds like its meant to turn the grave into some sort of turbine. The piracy has only allowed many to get over the kneejerk reaction and find something they might love.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:09 No.1033954
    ...deleted PDF guy here. This is just a suggestion, and you can do as you please of course, but you should strongly consider closing your browser window and not coming back here for a long, long time. You've made your point quite well, I believe, but if you keep posting in here, you will attract trolls like flies to shit. You seem like a nice guy, but this is not a very nice place, and while shooting down the uploads is probably a good idea, attempting communication with anonymous is really not. Leave now, before they start biting.
    >> sage 01/18/08(Fri)14:09 No.1033957
    While I can totally understand your plight as somenoe just trying to start up something on your own and make it out there, I think you're going to have a rough road ahead.

    in this day and age, it's not the quality of the product that will carry you, but how you market and distribute it. (WotC has proven this time and again through their subpar products)

    In your case, the pirating, especially if the product is good, is almost inevitable.

    Having said that though, there are ways you can that shit work for you. Like one of the guys above said, if playing the game requires the book at hand, then the PDF is just a teaser at best, since loading it up on your laptop and printing it off is just not the same.

    take Spirits of the Century, for example, they've gone ahead just put their SRD out in the open to increase their product exposure.

    from several of the comments I see in this thread, that is precisely your problem right now. you have no exposure. while getting your shit pirated sucks and all, it DOES increase your product circulation. With a bit of concrete data and research, you might be able to convince a publishing firm to put more money behind product once they realize how popular it is.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:09 No.1033958
    Clonecest is a lot like twincest.
    Except since I'm a negaverse clone, there's the whole brain-sucking thing afterward.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)14:10 No.1033961
    relax the trolls should still be in school right now
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)14:10 No.1033963

    Even so I already brought the book. I'm just waiting for the delivery. Fuck not at least getting this complete stranger to answer my questions.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:11 No.1033965
    Everyone who puts a product out and demands that their time and love spent on the product be rewarded in any way is "the man" to faggy piraters.

    Saving up to buy the book, Mike V. I dunno how profitable it'll be, but from everything I have read it sounds pretty good.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:13 No.1033972
    isnt this thing like only 20 pages long?
    >> sage 01/18/08(Fri)14:13 No.1033974
    you kidding? it's fucking cthulu mecha! that shit is like crossing legos with starwars, or ninjas with pirates. That shit is bound to sell dude.

    all he needs to do is make sure people knows about it, and can spend their money on it. Hell, I would go as far as to say he shouldn't limit himself to just doing an RPG. once people get into his stuff, he could start doing figurines, stories, or even a streamlined table-top board game.
    >> RAWK LAWBSTAR 01/18/08(Fri)14:14 No.1033978
    I'd buy it
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)14:15 No.1033981

    Give or take 268 pages.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:17 No.1033990

    the version i got is like 40 megs and only has 20 pages???? wtf
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:18 No.1033995

    what no way i just opened it up in photoshop and its gaot all the pages. my pdf viewer must be fucked
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:18 No.1033996
    Oh, that was the one with the embedded trojans and keyloggers in it. Enjoy your haxed privacy.
    >> sage 01/18/08(Fri)14:19 No.1034001
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:20 No.1034006
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)14:20 No.1034007

    Also make a maddening pact with Nyarlathotep to get some sort of game deal going. I couldnt care less if it were a just a reskin of the old mechwarrior games and was 10 years below anything playable. I'd be on that stuff like Deep ones on their first attempt at building a rapecamp on Florida during spring break.

    It would probably make a good tactical game.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)14:24 No.1034017
    I've ordered it already, and like a lot of other people, I didn't even know it existed until the rapidshares got posted here on /tg/

    While it is piracy, and we know it can hurt your business, what /tg/ really ended up doing for you was, indeed, viral marketing.

    Also, the sidebar on "so you downloaded this book" was a nice touch. We all loved that.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:28 No.1034029

    I dl a lot of things just to see the game mechanics and how they play out. If I had a group and seen a game I like I would buy it, but as is I'm an inept nerd in all senses and I don't see the point of droping 30+ dollars just to see what someone thinks could be a good way to use a given dice roll in a game setting.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:29 No.1034032
    I personally think if he's relying on /tg/ to do the marketting for him, he needs to get his ass in gear and figure out some more marketting methods.
    >> Mike V 01/18/08(Fri)14:29 No.1034034
    Sage that'd be great if we had a budget. It costs a retarded amount of money to print a full color perfect bound book.. not much less than the MSRP of the book actually. We will have to sell a retarded amount of books to start getting involved in those other industries.

    I've been talking to some friends that worked for Dream Pod 9 about possibly doing a mini's game together. If we get good news (our check is decent enough to pay art contracts) it'll be go time. The bottom line is that we're going to need cash to pay for production of the rule books and if we wanted to get a small business loan to pay for more than that we'd have to use some sort of property as equity, it always boils down to money and it's in short supply right now.

    To answer the speed question, yes you add those to what's already listed i.e. if your adding a doubling speed enhancement to Nazzadi Storm mech your speed would now effectively be increased to a max of 240 mp (592/144 ypt). Hope that helps.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:35 No.1034048
    Don't pay much attention to the kids, Mike, they think you could get the money for this by asking mom for an extra big allowance this week.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)14:37 No.1034050
    While I've got a dev here, I just want to ask, what was the idea behind the Nazzadi? I've said before that to me, they felt a tad thrown in there to be a 'second race' or, at worst, 'chaotic good drow ranger'. I've got a few ideas for using them, but these mostly centre around things not being happy and shiny for the Nazzadi in the NEG.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:38 No.1034053
    I'm not sure whether I belief this is really you, but if it is Mike, you're not doing your business any good. Regardless of whether it's ok or not to download this book (I have a less negative view of piracy than you, but that aside), you're not making a good impression by whining on it on your own forum, getting into a fight with a potential customer and then coming here (the place affectionately called the asshole of the internet) and trying to get us not to download it. You're not making a good impression at all. And consider:t not only are you speaking for WildFire, out of the four people there you are by far the most vocal. And I do have a copy of ctech. I'm honestly trying to help you out. You are NOT deterring anyone from pirating ctech. On the contrary. The harder you tell people ON THE FUCKING INTERNET that they can't do something, the harder they'll try to do it.
    Now consider the following:
    - The scan is of BAD quality. Done on purpose by the guy who scanned it. He also left a note telling people to support you and put a direct link in the pdf to the Mongoose site.
    - Who the hell games with pdfs? Do you expect people to print it out and waste almost as much money on ink as the book itself would cost? Do you think people will take their laptop to the gaming table? In the end, if you want to game you're going to need the book. Even for online games a book is much handier than a pdf.

    But even if you don't accept all this, even if you think pirates are evil incarnate, you are NOT helping your company out by acting like a child. You are one of four guys representing your company. A bit of professionalism wouldn't be out of place.
    >> Thoon 01/18/08(Fri)14:38 No.1034054
    So A Malestrom can get up to 480 MPH.

    God damn yes.

    Holy shit a Silverfish would be at 1620

    They both have A rank Acceleration codes too. God damn.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:38 No.1034055
    Yo Mike, tell me why I have been banned from your damn forum, k?
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:41 No.1034067

    You are an idiot and I hope you die.

    He is not "whining," he is pointing out that his livelihood is dependent on people purchasing his book and he is not down with people pirating it.

    If you want to argue that it would somehow drum up sales, well - every book company on planet earth seems to disagree, and since its their property and not your's, I don't see what you're bitching about.
    >> Mike V 01/18/08(Fri)14:44 No.1034076
    anonymous, I unbanned your IP and username. Next time read the forum rules and watch the language.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:44 No.1034077

    you're a fucking moron. a stupid, fucking moron. or a finally arrived troll.

    see, many people here actually want that book AFTER HAVING FUCKING DOWLOADED IT. VIRAL MARKETING AND SHIT. now, please kill yourself.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:47 No.1034083
    Yeah, did you see the thread over at their own forums? No? Great, stay out of this.

    There are many smalltime companies that get their books scanned. They don't come over to 4chan to try and guilt people. They don't have a fight with someone on their own forum. I am honestly just trying to help you out. You already have my money. I can take a picture of my copy with the date and "sup /tg/" if you want.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:47 No.1034084

    You have no statistical evidence to back such a claim up that the guy somehow made more money than he lost because "some" people read it and bought it.

    I am sure "some" people read it and didn't buy it who would have, too.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)14:47 No.1034085
    The "I downloaded it to see if I wanted to buy it" argument is well-worn, yes. But there -are- people who don't buy after they try, even if they did like it. Yes, a lot of us are buying the book because of the pdf. But that doesn't change the fact that no writer wants to see their hard work being distributed for free, people getting the fruits of their labour without due recompense.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:48 No.1034088
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    I really think this is the real deal. Look at how he quotes the OP post, and how he said "Sage that'd be great if we had a budget." He's a newfag to 4chan, and it shows. This is really him.

    Anyway, I've got the CthulhuTech PDF right here on my hard drive. I'm not planning on buying it because I have no interest in playing it, and even if I did want to get a physical copy, I probably couldn't because getting things delivered to the Philippines is an absolute bitch. As such, it's just going to remain in my computer as one of those neat little RPG books I keep and read for reference. No harm done.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:49 No.1034089
    I'll think about that, but I can't promise. See, we're so sadistic, using words like "shit" became a regular way of communication. ;)

    oh, and:

    To login you must activate your account.
    The activation key you supplied does not match any in the database.

    Looks as if I screwed it up.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:50 No.1034095
    I plan on buying a copy as soon as one is available at my damn FLGS.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:51 No.1034097
    > OP post
    I wish I could hate you to death.
    >> Trithne !ZX90BE9JaU 01/18/08(Fri)14:52 No.1034098
    One day someone will finally invent that device that lets us punch people through the internet.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:53 No.1034102

    4chan will become more civil really, really quickly.
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    Fine, "OP's post" or simply "OP".
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:55 No.1034114
    I'll still hate you for who you are, don't worry.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)14:57 No.1034116
    Don't trust any statistics that you didn't fake yourself. Or something like that.

    I'll just repost my main arguments from the forum:

    1. Many people want to try out, viral marketing etc blabla. Essentially depends on each individual. I don't even think there has ever been made any proper research on that matter (so, proof me wrong, haha).

    2. People who downloaded it may have actually a) not liked it or b) no possibility of buying it (no money, living on the Philllippines).

    I just forgot about the rest, so that has to do it.
    >> Anonymous 01/18/08(Fri)15:02 No.1034127

    OK, simple argument.

    1) The right to reproduce the book is reserved by the publisher/owner.

    2) If they do not feel viral marketing via zomg torrent plz is an effective means to make money, they won't do it and neither should you.

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