Several rumbling jolts wakes Gilliam from his sleep as the sound of a docking clamp echoes through the hull. The shuttle interior begins to illuminate itself fully as a guard moves over to check on him. Gilliam clicks his window screen expecting the twisted vista of Darwin's jungle, or at least the sprawled Bedrock spaceport.“There was a change of plans at the last second. We were rerouted through the Teegarden gate.” The guard says as Gilliam examines the seemingly endless sea of metal spires and neon-laced concrete ziggurats of New Tokyo as a meteor shower traces through the sky over the glow of the city in the cold night air. “Your bags are being loaded. This way, sir.” The guard says. He seems nervous.A dozen groggy thoughts swirl through Gilliam's head at once, half formed. He comes to recognize the city as being on Path, although he can't quite place the exact location on the planet from his view. “Why are we in Virgo?” He asks. The guard doesn't respond; he likely has less of an idea than Gilliam, he realizes, and quickly gets up to follow with little more than his small travel bag in hand. The shuttle, a small atmospheric lander built to attach onto larger cargo and mail runners for express flights, was situated alone on the platform. A few clearly empty shuttles sit some hundred meters away on their own landing pads with their engines covered haphazardly, but otherwise not a single ship is in sight. The entire port is devoid of people as well, apart from police and PDF forces, and the flickering lights of news screens largely show emergency broadcasts. He slows to read the crawling, low resolution texture as it moves by in Pathian, English, and Arnimian in three lines across the screen, with a vibrant blob of shifting color on the bottom in the Ceph language, and a cluster of orbiting circles in the Valen native language.This is the planetary emergency alert system: This is not a drill, your local Planetary Defence Force has been deployed and anti-orbital systems have been brought online. Due to extreme power requirements, expect outages periodically during anti-orbital weapon activation. Hospitals and local critical infrastructure will remain operational. Seek shelter in your building's Bombardment Shelter immediately in a calm and orderly fashion and remain indoors until further notice. All citizens are to clear the streets, especially those designated as thermal venting areas for local Anti-orbital weapon systems. In the event of a strike, ensure you check local radiation monitors to determine if it is kinetic or atomic in nature, if indicated it is an atomic strike, be sure to...Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!>Archives http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Hive%20Queen%20Quest>Twitter https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest>Various pasta http://pastebin.com/u/QuestDrone>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
>>998554You feel the notice of a Distant Mind>Psionic research has received a small boost>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage>Current resource reservesNutrients: 40,713,540NMetals: 39,795,179MCredits: ₡602,226Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000Active trade routes>Leeland – Lanway: HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]>Construction underway[Light Fleet] x5[Heavy Fleet] x15[Ambush Fleet] x10[Fast Assault Fleet] x5>Formed fleets and ordersCitadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]10 Heavy Battle Fleet [Awaiting orders]5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]25 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]-20 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]-5 Fast Assault Fleets [Awaiting orders]Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses25 Human captives of the USV Hope – 750[Gemini] 3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)4 Human flash clone upkeep – 12018 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540Specializations:>Tech>Engineer>Brawler[Hive space]100 Human Hybrids – 3,000Lyle Rogers – 57Jackob Eisner – 56Dillon Reager – 30Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N>IncomeMetals: 2,950,500Nutrients: 7,636,000Net: Total upkeepNutrient costs: 6,294,510(Nutrient stat + structures) * 1k * dev score + modifiers = Nutrient income total(Metal stat + structures) * dev score + modifiers = Metal income totalHive Territory[G-426]*Leeland (capital)N 60+40M 45Development 50Income:4.886MN162.5KMDefensive structures>Surface to Orbit Missile System: Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN, Additional costs per launch)>Anti-orbital batteries: Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)Military structures>Hangar facilities: Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)>Psionic Shroud: Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)Industrial structures>Docking Pylon: (2000) (100KN)[Empty docks: 8000/8000]Economic Structures>Capillary Tower [under construction]>Smart Mines active: Calculates development stat twice for metal income>Algae Farm: +25N>Film harvester dock: +15NAsteroid mining base: 50KM per day added to nearest planet.
>>998554Yay Feels good to be back. How much time do you have tonight QD?
>>998554Wait a second Virgo was the system where we had the battle over Path.
>>998556[M-662]RalighaN 90+20M 10Development 25Income:2.75MN0MDefensive structures>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)>Anti-orbital batteries: 35/35 (8KNN)Economic structures>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N>Greystalk farms: [under construction]>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, Extra N income x2>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day [M-323]>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N) [Empty docks: 0/4]>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)[Farcast]Derelict Sensor arrayGlassed Hive worldN 0M 100D 10Income:0N100KM>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal incomeDeep space waystation>100 docking pylons (10KN)[Empty docks 400/400]Full disclosure, I recently threw out my back, so it has been rather painful to sit in my chair (or stand, or walk, or really do anything other than remain perfectly still on my back in bed) so a lot of my planned prep time was not very productive. That, plus the fact that we are just getting off of a hiatus on a new board means I don't think we will be having all that much crunch in this thread. Sadly, that means no tech unlocks quite yet. I am free tomorrow, however, and this board is slow as molasses in a snow storm, so I will be here in the same thread tomorrow for either a two-parter, a general discussion/QA session, or a mix of both.
>>998570So we finally going to see things from our clone's perspectives?
ONCE AGAINTHE TIME HAS COME
>>998554AW YEA AW YEA AW YEEEAAA
>>998570Get well soon, Drone.
IT'S BACK.Good to see you QD>Have you finished those scouting pods?
>>998570>Income:>2.75MN>0MOh yess. We need to get some new M sources.Hope you Get better QD, atleast we arnt as slow as >>>/i/ They have a 2 year old thread....Though If it wasnt for autosage there might be some high month threads,.
When was last thread?
>>998554>English>and no EsperantoIs this a commie planet? I thought this was the Union!
>>998591Esperanto is a Commie language.
>>998569We already knew Gilliam was going to study the battle remains anon. It was pretty spelled out.
>>9985863 months ago now, septemberThis is the most updated map right?
Oh this is back? I was just catching up and thought it was dead forever.Gotta say, as a hive queen we don't seem to have zerg level of massed units. Don't know how I feel about small numbers of high tech fleets, bit too protossy for bugs I would say.>My dick is so hard from excitement right now
>>998595yeah he's the Union's resident xeno-biologist now that Seiner is a head in a jar Which we still need to clone as a ChimeraAlso I had an idea about the Commonwealth worlds we're helping defend from the Scavs. It would be VERY easy for us to sneak in some Egglayers for hidden hives on those worlds. So easy it would be irresponsible of us not to have Hives there
>>998605>Which we still need to clone as a ChimeraNot going to happen.
The board is slow, excepting certain ultra-popular quests like Audit Quest.I think you'll be fine, QD.>>998604We're more a Zerg/Protoss mix at this point, really.
>>998605I think he's happier the way he is now.In fact, I think everyone is.
>>998554MOTHER HAS RETURNED
>>998570Lee sits relaxed in a freshly grown chair in the offices of the still barren embassy, the chittering commotion of construction work and landscaping rumbling from beyond the walls in the courtyard. A hologram flips through the channels of the local news, mostly consisting of off-air letter cards, old reruns, or infomercials while the news is almost entirely focused on your hive fleet in orbit over the planet. Periodically you can hear the sound of sirens in the distance, punctuated with the rare gunshot. Local radio communications indicate the planet has descended into a state of panic. Flash mobs and protests have quickly devolved into looting and riots in several districts, and local gangs and other underground elements seem to have chosen the chaos as the perfect cover to settle old scores with multiple shootouts reported in a number of rather shady neighborhoods, but widespread crime and public discontent is hardly a competitive news story compared to an alien armada blockading the capital of the Union.“Now you can really see this insanity for what it is!” One of the commentators shouts as Lee flips through the channels. “These xenos show up with a damn invasion fleet, and these morons like Seamus and her cronies want to bend over backwards for them. They have been doing this with the Valen clans for years but this is the first time they can really twist the knife with anything approaching a decent excuse. Don't doubt me on this, they are happier than a pig in filth over this! Now we will be right back here at the Silver Mic, right after this break!” Lee shuts off the projector with a yawn.“Feels like that guy is taking forever. How hard is it to find some decent tea?” He says, you sense a human approaching the exterior door of your embassy office. A moment later there is a loud knock as the door opens into the main floor as a sharp looking man leans in to eye up the foyer. He is wearing a loose looking set of robes covered in circular patterns and a large, toothy grin is plastered across his face. You send Lee the image from your surveying flies and he sighs as he gets up from his seat and moves to the door of the small side office and into the lobby.“I didn't think the security would let anyone in yet.” Lee says as your speaker scurries in behind him. "Can I help you with anything?"cont.
>>998584Did we mine all the metals already?I wonder why Raligha ran out before our asteroid mine in leeland.We should convert a million of those nutrients to metal regularly.
>>998609We could aways macro and spam a few throw away units, quantity is a quality afterall. That would turn is all the way back to zerg
GAS THE SQUIDSNUKE THE WHALESSTAB THE MONKEYSTRUST NOTHINGTHE VOID IS WATCHING US
>>998604I've been thinking about designing ships to be mass produced ulitizing the blaster which is amazing for mass produced fleets.
Gonna be honest, QuestDrone, was beginning to not trust your promises to run at all.
>>998620Eh, we do that decently enough. I think we're fine not being a straight up stereotype.
Also, kudos QD for using italics/colors in the most genuinely acceptable non eye-killing actual sense-making way possible.>>998616We definitely should.
>>998609Re:monster Is pretty active, if it wasnt for REqms slow typing the quests would reach 1k~ replies I bet.
>>998620That is actually my idea for how to combat the Black queen while preventing our drone tech from falling to her hand.Make a bunch of cheap drones that mach hers until there is a sea of them and scatter our better high tech drones in them, so if they fall the cheap ones can hold her drones back until the body is disposed of or a plasma artillery destroys it and everything around it.
>>998593I wonder who could be behind this post Esperanto is the official language of red blooded champions of democracy and thr Union, go back to Constantinople commie traitor.
>>998631It's the Curse mang>>998623I'm glad we agreed on my suggestion to switch the swarmers from autocannons to blasters for that reason. We'll be able to melt the hulls right off of ships
>>998616I think we opted not to mine anything from Raligha due to a combination of being both mostly mined out and having a rich biosphere that would be damaged with mining activity.
>>998623>>998641I'm new so I can't really come up with anything helpful. Cheap and cost efficient, thats all the advice I can give. Do your best anon-sans.>>998633Don't lie to me, you know you love the feeling of throwing endless fodder at the enemy. Who doesn't after all.
Also I think I have a solution for the dealing with Killinger and the void priest on Talgo.Why don't we just tell Killinger that we think the priest guy has a void shard and that he and the rest on the population is under it's influence?
Here is the daily reminder.>Raid OQ>Read the locked memories of that thinker.>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.Also I'd like to mention that in thread 29.2 The white queen collected her picket fleets from a dozen hives to make her final stand, their numbers were1 Hive ship35 Battleships150 Battlecruisers500 Cruisers1000 Frigates3000 corvettesI believe we should work towards these numbers since we're getting the expanse.
>>998655We already gained the scav ftl drive It was similar to our blink drive tech tree
>>998652>Void priestI think you're confusing DAtS with this quest.The cyclists don't have any connection to the voidshards
>>998651>Don't lie to me, you know you love the feeling of throwing endless fodder at the enemy. Who doesn't after all.No. All our children are sacred and a single drop of unnecessarily spilled blood is an insult that cannot go unpunished. We win though superior tech.
>>998651>http://pastebin.com/YTwGk8n1Here's basically how ship building works.Blasters are all rounders that are amazing in large numbers.
>>998651>I'm new>who donest love this style of shitGo fucking read the archive you stupid whore before running your mouth.
>>998659>We win though superior numbers equipped with superior techfix'd for you>>998657Nope. We've only ever captured non-ftl boarding shuttles
>>998663whoa, tone it back a bit dude
>>998649Oh, well never mind then.>>998655Oops, i forgot something.>Build Orbital solar array in both planets.(It's cheap enough in nutrients to be wort it and the metal can be converted from half of it's income.>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
>>998657No we didn't, we know how it works but we don't know how to build it.
Man, I just want a chance to use Titans in an engagement. Mech/Kaiju insects
>>998664>>We win though superior numbers equipped with superior tech>fix'd for youyeah, to be honest, that and picking our fights
>>998658I don't know if you noticed in the other threads but everyone was suspicious of that asshole not to mention this is a situation we can simply assume that "he's has no connection to a void shard" until it's fucking confirmed.
>>998666Are you new? Solar arrays are stupidly expensive for what they put out. And Reprieve is controlled by BQ.
>>998672How about a traffic light system, Green=Confirmed no connection or antiAmber=Nothing certain either wayRed=Confirmed connection or pro
>>998613"Ah, yes." He says with a courteous bow. "I do apologize, I wasn't quite sure if you had set up your offices quite yet, but I wanted to be the first person to speak with you, before the general rabble." The man holds a large basket of various jars and cans, and hands it to your drone. The smell of sugar permeates it. "I couldn't help but notice your assistant is searching for a 'oil drum of honey', I figured I could at least help out as much as I could." Your speaker plucks one of the small cans out of the basket with its mandibles, quickly devouring it, metal and all as honey seeps from its beak."Acceptable." Your speaker says, and turns away to several workers that begin to rip apart the basket, devouring the intricate wickerfish plating design. The human moves up to Lee, resting an arm over his shoulders."I am Anitianus Descolade Librae, primary agitant of the Valen Clan political offices." The man says as the two walk along the rim of the room towards the courtyard."Do you have a nickname or something?" Lee asks. "How about, uh, I just call you Anton. I knew an Anton back in Basic." Anton looks dryly at him for a moment before resuming his grin."Right, in any case, I wanted to give you the welcome wagon. Show you around. We are neighbors after all, and both of us human citizens in an alien government. We should really stick together, look out for each other, you know?" The two together bump into a large warrior emerging with surprising speed from an office, knocking the diplomat away from Lee as its breath steams and it grunts in disapproval. Your drones together notice the faintest, most insignificant radio signal. A nearly microscopic device, the size of a speck of dust, within Lee's suit collar, although you missed it being placed there.>Destroy the device, and kick the envoy out>Mention the device and warn the envoy>Pretend not to notice>Other>>998631I literally posted my Christmas date running plans, got out of my chair, and face-planted in agony as my back snapped out of place.It's a hereditary thing, but it's never been this bad.Then I broke my toe on the stairs a few days later. They still look blue.
>>998683>>Mention the device and warn the envoy
>>998683>Pretend not to notice
>>998683>Pretend not to noticeLet them think they can succeed and feed stupid info
>>998683>Mention the device and warn the envoy
>>998683Shit man, what the hell.Never heard of that before.
>>998683>>Destroy the device, and kick the envoy out
>>998683>pretend not to noticeGlad to see them already trying shit.
>>998683>Pretend not to noticewe'll play their game, for nowbesides its not like they can pick up telepathic comms, we'll let them hear what we want them to hear
>>998683Have the deviced attached to anton as he leaves.
>>998683>>Pretend not to notice
>>998683>>Pretend not to noticeLet's not tip our hand too early, though we should let Lee know.Welcome back QD! You've been missed. Sorry to hear about your back problems.
>>998704>Let them think they can succeed and feed stupid infoThis.>>998683>OtherInform Lee as such, as there's nothing genuinely compromising here that would be shared through him anyways. Having them think we don't have the capability to notice it is more valuable.
>>998683>Pretend not to noticeHave a fly take the device and attach it onto Anton when he leaves
>>998677The solar arrays pays for itself, 5 days to make 5,000 nutrients and 10 to make 5,000 metals.>>998683>Mention the device and warn the envoy."Please do not play your political games with us, we consider it very rude and a little sad."
>>998709Sciatic nerve. It's essentially a nerve running from the spine through the hip into the leg that does nothing but occasionally fuck you up for no good reason.Every single person on my father's side of the family has it.
>>998683>Pretend not to noticeFeed them fake information.
>>998724Yes that is stupidly inefficient compared our fusion farms.
>>998683>>Mention the device and warn the envoyYou really should know better than to attempt espionage on first contact? Did the Valen learn such poor manners from the humans?
>>998726Get it cut out?
>>998741To the Valen that isn't necessarily poor manners, and to the Valen it would be impressive to use this against them at a later time.They're weird/cool like that.
>>998741Backstabbing is a thing Valen do a lot anon. Hell it's a fundamental part of their culture.
>>998726Man that's shitty. Thanks for still running the quest!
>>998747>>998741The Valen thrive on political intrigue and backstabbing
>>998735I agree, but nutrients are nutrients and we can still make the fusion farms if we buy it.Speaking of fusion farms i was thinking about Dyson swarms/spheres and i believe we should build a Dyson swarm on leeland's gas giant and look for a sun to make solar Dyson swarm, which i need help to make.
>>998735Literally swimming in resources, untwist your panties.
>>998726thank you for still running the quest
>>998759Ultra high-orbit ship platforms skimming energy into n/m in gigantic swarms around gas giants/stars sound cool until you have to defend them.Actually they sound cool regardless but I think we can do one better. There is a supermassive blackhole's worth of energy at the center of the galaxy up for grabs.
>>998761That's not a reason not to choose the more efficient option. There's an argument to me made for diversifying your income but you're not going to change anyone's mind with >just do it we have loads of nutrients anyway
>>998683>>Pretend not to noticeWe can feed them misleading info a few times before they catch on that we're onto them, let's save this for a rainy day when we need it!
>>998761Then why choose the most fragile and inefficient method?>>998759I can understand that sentiment but we should wait until we get shields for structures so we can at least defend it.
>>998783The point is basically that your arguing over efficiencys when your going to do both and nutrients is not a bottleneck yet.
>>998683>Pretend not to noticeThe envoy backs away slightly from your drone as Lee pats its shoulder."They can be a bit jumpy. It's alright." He says. The envoy nods nervously."Of course, I apologize. In any case, please, if you need anything, don't be afraid to ask me. You may have the number of the officials who work here, but I have the numbers of the people who fund their campaigns." He says, his smile becoming genuine. "It's not often that adding a degree of separation can improve your efficiency, but when it comes to Union politics...""Right, I think I get it. And what would that cost us?" Lee asks. The envoy seems almost insulted."Oh, no no, I'm only trying to be friendly." He says. "you should visit our office some time, I would be more than happy to host dinner." He eyes up your group of workers as they finish devouring the gift of honey jars, scraping up and eating the last scraps of basket as one of the workers crunches a metal can in its jaws, swallowing the honey covered metal shreds with ease. "We can accommodate Valen and Human biology, I am sure we could manage with the Hive, if you wish." Lee squints at him slightly as you try to riffle through his mind. It is foggy, almost deliberately so, and filled with pointless information shrouding his intent as he loudly counts up and down in his mind, then recites several recipes and a number of nursery rhymes. You attempt to judge his face, but his practiced emotional baseline is so rehearsed you suspect it has some underlying cybernetic maintaining it."I'll keep that in mind." Lee says finally. "And thanks for the gift basket. I'll be sure to send a fish or something." Anton lets out a hearty laugh."Excellent! I hope to see you soon!"cont.>>998744Essentially it's caused by the hip pinching the nerve, and then the nerve gets all inflamed.It's actually one of the few things independent study has found Chiropractics to be more effective in treating than standard primary medicine. Bit of a fun fact there. I also have had to crack my dad and grandmother's spine back into place before for the same thing, (in the middle of a thread once, in fact) but mine won't go back in as easy.
>>998792 is foggy, almost deliberately so, and filled with pointless information shrouding his intent as he loudly counts up and down in his mind, then recites several recipes and a number of nursery rhymes. You attempt to judge his face, but his practiced emotional baseline is so rehearsed you suspect it has some underlying cybernetic maintaining it.Fucks heads know about the psi tech tree
>>998780>Ultra high-orbit ship platforms skimming energy into n/m in gigantic swarms around gas giants/stars sound cool until you have to defend them.They would be a fleet, they are capable of defending themselves, except for the smaller, solar farming dedicated ships. Other than that the big ones and the fleets that will be fed by the swarm will be enough to defend the system.
>>998792I think we should start talking about how we dislike Killinger.
>>998794Shit is bad.We have to presume that they have a rudimentary method of utalizing it then, we should start installing our usual counter measures and protocols.
>>998794>Fucks heads know about the psi tech treeI think it more has to do with the fact they are trying to hide their emotions then them knowing about Psionics.
>>998759I believe I brought this up way way back, but I think we should make a Dyson sphere and transform it into a capital ship, using our ftl tech to transport the entire star. We could find a star with barren planets, and completely mine out their mantles for the resources, and once the sphere is up and tuning we could just produce the metals.
>>998792>Lee squints at him slightly as you try to riffle through his mind. It is foggy, almost deliberately so, and filled with pointless information shrouding his intent as he loudly counts up and down in his mind, then recites several recipes and a number of nursery rhymes.Is this training for resisting nerve stapling interrogation?
Well it makes sense hey know about it, they are running the smuggling route for the ceph escaping there trapped home world Elements in the valen probably have some idea what the void shards are >>998806See the part about "and filled with pointless information shrouding his intent as he loudly counts up and down in his mind, then recites several recipes and a number of nursery rhymes"Doing that shows they think we can read their minds cause he is intentional doing it
>>998814>We could find a star with barren planetsWe can terraform barren planets you know.
>>998792>It is foggy, almost deliberately so, and filled with pointless information shrouding his intent as he loudly counts up and down in his mind, then recites several recipes and a number of nursery rhymes. You attempt to judge his face, but his practiced emotional baseline is so rehearsed you suspect it has some underlying cybernetic maintaining it.This kinda makes my hunch about Valen maybe being at least partially psionic seem more likely
>>998794They have the spine machine torture thingamajig so they probably know how to hide their thoughts and body language even without knowing about psi
>>998792Quick have a child to crack your own stuff! Also fuck, They know we can read minds.
>>998794That's impossible in a number of ways.For one they wouldn't have installed the cybernetics in his brain in the time between now and the time they found out we were in orbit.It's for something pre existing they want to guard against. Fucker is trained, he's not new at maintaining this kind of psychic static in his mind.
>>998802Isn't most of counter psi-tech kinda physically large? That might be something we could look into researching actually.>>998806The reciting songs and recipes implies they're trying to block some sort of mind reading. They mightnot know if it even works: it's a common defence in fiction.
>>998792The fish we send the Valen should be the sort that predates via luminous bait.
>>998829Im sure we can miniturize it, just we have yet had the need to.
The valen knowing about psi might actually be a good thing, we can sell them the tachyon blocking helmets(That conveniently deteriorate in a year or two) for big favors.
>>998829I think the call it disassembling in the Ciaphas cain novels?
>>998823Which is kind of pointless if your going to block out the sun.
>>998839And advertise by having Lee attend a dinner with one!And we don't tell him what it is- just that he has to wear it. "Hive's recommendation," etc.
>>998846Unless you make the swarm behind the planets, letting them have sunlight.
>>998839>>998829>>998827>>998826>>998820Did it ever occur to you that it's for protection from neural interfaces?
>>998854Did it ever occur to you to prepare for the worse and hope for the best?
>>998846Check out the wiki page about them, there's all kinds of variants: nets, bubbles, rings...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_sphere
>>998854It's a very genuine possibility. T b h, it would be more helpful if it was psi protection, but I don't think we can be too careful when it comes to the Valen.
We really should come up with stuff the valen will want so we get frienenemly with each other until we can make a shared research protect for improving the gates.I'd suggest starting with asking them for a valen body for research.>>998854The possibility of them knowing about tachyons is still there though.
Remember guys, most species are apparently even just slightly psionicly sensitive with a few altered exceptions like humans. When dealing with aliens we should assume they have psionic potential
>>998802>We have to presume that they have a rudimentary method of utalizing it then, we should start installing our usual counter measures and protocols.We would hear them if they ever used tachyons. You're both leaping to conclusions.The Valen may be paranoid that the alien hivemind might be psychic, but we can't know for certain that they know for certain.The more likely possibility is that this is standard training for controlling your own thoughts and keeping a poker face for Valen representatives.>>998854Anon, that's what I said. Stop agreeing with me. It's impossible for them to know we can read minds.
>>998841Dissembling is the word they used, but not specifically in regards to psychic defense. It just means lying, obfuscating, or misdirecting
>>998854Well lets see, the humans were taking the first steps in the psi tech treeAnd some valen have underground routes to the ceph homeworld that is under the control of the psi using void shards that like to mind control peopleSo its a good bet that they have some idea about the psi tech and have been researching it
>>998849Ok, admittedly that would be interesting, but would drastically increase the cost for materials. I was thinking it would be cool to first create a Dyson sphere with our solar arrays, connect them all with cables, and the slowly grow out a photosynthetic film between them all, creating a giant solid structure. We could then terraform parts of the interior of the sphere.
>>998870A receiver can still hear without sending out signals.All they have to do is have something listening and then we have problems with orders being listened in on. Hence its still a good idea to put in the counter measures.
>>998866>asking them for a valen body for research.Anon, are you sure?I like the idea, but I don't like the idea of what they'd ask for in return.
>>998792Sounds similar to a herniated disk. Had that once, kept me bedridden and unable to walk for a month. If its chronic you have my sincerest condolences.
>>998870>The more likely possibility is that this is standard training for controlling your own thoughts and keeping a poker face for Valen representatives.This seems pretty likely since the Valen are described as "particularly empathic"
>>998846Yes but planets are more practical and defensible.>>998855Of course it did it does however it's very unlikely.>>998882If you're so fucking worried then research the damn thing.
>>998814Dyson spheres are very big. Even with the resources it would take a looong time to construct.
>>998887Unlikely has bitten us in the ass before mate, We gotta be ready and prepared.
>>998868>most species are apparently even just slightly psionicly sensitive with a few altered exceptions like humansI'm pretty sure QD said the exact opposite of that. Ancient humans were slightly psychic, and the White Queen removed that ability. Even turned them into antipsychics.Psionics developed in the species, and were ripped out.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49010398/#49013314>You are unsure by how much, but it does seem that psionic sensitivity in one way or another is actually less uncommon than you at first believed. The Humans and Phantoms seem proof at least that psionic sensitivity can develop in nature.
Oh shit it's back!
>>998889>Unlikely has bitten us in the ass before Look at my post history. I fucking know that but if you are so worried then just study the damn thing and it'll eventually tell us.
>>998847Doesn't that mean we wouldn't be able to coach him and he would act like a idiot?
>>998895You're the one trying to tell us its fucking fine, When we should be on edge even more so with the Void being able to sense us now.
>>998888very, very big. The earth has a ~4,000 mile radius. The sun has a ~435,000 mile radius, and it's not very big as far a suns go.
>>998896Ah shit, you're right. Shame.
>>998896The parasite is in his abdomen not his skull.
As I said, humans were altered to not be psionic. They are an exception.
>>998878I'd rather keep it a Dyson swarm so it has mobility.Sun expanding? Get father back.Debris coming in, have some of the ships move out of the way.An attack, have them regret their actions when they are swarmed by solar farming frigates while our solar capitals shoot them.>>998883What they ask will depend on how much they think we're profiting from it, which will probably be a lot as they will know from our bio ships we are masters of genetics.They work through favors and dept so we can set up a form of specific I.O.U's, like a promise to lend a hive fleet for a specific task or a terraforming ticket.
>>998901Now what's the radius of the earth's orbit?
>>998917A bit bigger.
>>998917>radius of the earth's orbitThe average distance between the Earth and the Sun is 149.60 million kilometers (92.96 million miles), and a complete orbit occurs every 365.256 days (1 sidereal year), during which time Earth travels 940 million kilometers (584 million miles). Earth's orbit has an eccentricity of 0.0167.
>>998898If they could sense psionics then why haven't they found our drones on Aral? And there is no way they could miniaturize psionic detection to our level. However the only way you could convince me otherwise is if they have had contact with the Skyl in their early history.
>>998921They do smuggle ceph through their gate, they might have been told of psi through them.
>>998891>>998906Humans aren't an 'exception' to most species being psionic. Humans and Phantoms evolved psionics naturally before they were altered and nobody else has developed that that we've seen. You just misinterpreted.
>>998928Coil pretty much proved to us that they don't even know what psionics are.
>>998921Gee whiz, you mean them using the gate system that the skyl were developing before being destroyed or declaring aral a religious world isn't hint enough that some valen know a hell alot about some secrets of the setting, like the void shards and psi?
>>998921>no way they could miniaturize psionic detection to our level.I'm not so sure of that. Remember how the Union psionics lab (which Lyle destroyed) was detecting and using tiny tachyon levels by our standards? Or how having our drones in the area instantly threw their tachyon monitor off the scale? If the Union has that ability (albeit not fully utilized), there's a pretty decent chance the Valen have started investigating that tech-tree as well.
>>998935I've already suspicious of this anon but that of and in itself is not conclusive.>>998942That's Skyl tech genius not human tech.
>>998935>the gate system that the skyl were developingThis again?Ripping an unstable, bleeding wormhole open ex nihilo is completely different from an entire stargate network that all constantly are connected to each other in a big superstructure. There was a whole ask.fm about how every FTL is nothing like the others.
>he loudly counts up and down in his mind, then recites several recipes and a number of nursery rhymes.https://youtu.be/4mokhjML3C0?t=208
>>998950>There was a whole ask.fm about how every FTL is nothing like the othersNot quite anon. QD said each one is unique and each have their own niche.
I thought the valen did dig up skyl stuff and that was partly why they choose that shitty planet for their new colony.
>>998921Just going to toss out an idea I've had since before the hiatus for if we decide we want to backpedal to any degree on our stance on claiming the frontier planets.If we decide to revise it to be less aggressive, we can claim Lee convinced us that our initial demand was unreasonable for non-hive creatures. Doing so will make us seem open to compromise, Lee will likely gain points with the Union and be seen as a means of appealing to us, and any repercussions from changing our minds will be reasonably minimized.
>>998792Anton quickly makes his way to the door, turning to give a slight bow again."I hope you will join us for dinner sometime. You and the Hive Speaker are both invited, it's a standing offer." He adds, and leaves with a quick wave of the hand. The door seals shut behind him."Well, he came off a bit like a care salesman, but was nice enough. Shame about the honey." Lee says as your speaker collects the remaining bits of metal scraps stuck to its mandibles. "You know that's not free, right?""Yes, but it is cheap. As you say, we can give them fish." Your speaker chirps. Lee reaches behind him, struggling to find the right spot, and a fly quickly swoops in to pluck the dust mote sized device from his collar. He offers a wordless thanks as your drone takes it away to be examined as quietly as possible. Lee exhales as it leaves the room."I doubt it would go undetected if I tried passing one of the security checkpoints around here, but still, that's a bit obnoxious." He says. "I mean, they're trying to bug bugs!" He says with a dumb grin, your speaker looks back in silence for some time before a wall is smashed in by a heavy warrior's charge. A dozen workers quickly drag away the debris, chewing it into paste as they begin assembling the small hive in the courtyard. Lang is dodging drones as they zoom past in every direction holding a small cup."Sorry, I'm still working on that... barrel of honey. But I found a machine in the cafeteria that has tea." He says as he hands the small cut to Lee. He takes a quick sip and scrunches his nose in disapproval."Thanks." Lee says. "This is... great. Thanks." "Also, I let the word out that you were open for interviews." Lang says quickly as he pulls out his data pad. "In the time since then, you have received seventeen thousand separate requests from individual broadcast stations and news channels. The Daily Eclipse, the Gemini Times, the Savanna, UNN, and... the Data Wars? I haven't even heard of that network." Lee vaguely remembers the network's name blaring from the holo-screen at home back on Talgo."That's the network that, uh, what was it. They claimed there was some Union-Valen research thing keeping fish people in tanks or something. Mostly conspiracy stuff. I bet they're having a blast today." Lee says."Right. Well, here is the list. In short, every network in the system wants an interview, or a press release, or anything really, so you get the pick of the litter." Lang says as he hands Lee the data pad. "Also, Secretary Morgan has said he's in his office just about all day today and you can head up to meet him any time you want." He says with some confusion. "A meeting with someone on the Council isn't usually that relaxed...">Assemble a press release to the Union public (write in)>Organize an interview with a Union media network (write in)>Head to Morgan's office right away>Other
>>998949>That's Skyl tech genius not human tech.Well, we already know the Valen have access to the Ceph homeworld. Maybe they have some Ceph tech?I'm just speculating, of course. It's completely possible they are well behind the humans in psionic tech (and of course they must be well behind us). I'm just cautioning that assuming they are more capable than they are is probably safer than assuming they are incapable of an ability they may have.
>>998888There are ways to make it not take as long. If we produced just 60 solar arrays, for instance, and placed them at the vertices of a truncated icosahedron (a soccer ball, essentially), and had the all connect to each other like a truncated icosahedron, and each "face" slowly filled in from the edge using the energy produced by the solar array, we would be covering about 1/32 of the surface of the shell with each section. And it would create a self strengthening effect, where the more surface area that is produced, the more energy is being produced, and the faster we can create the shell.
>>998980>Head to Morgan's office right away>Data WarsLet me guess, They sell Filter's and Vitamin/male enhancers to make you a Alpha?
>>998978Actually I have a better idea. We can in excruciating detail explain to them that the Expanse is going to be bumfucked by 2 alien races each capable of wiping out the combined might of the Valen and Human empires.
>>998980>"I mean, they're trying to bug bugs!"Aww Lee, you're doing the universe good.>>998980>Head to Morgan's office right away
>>998980>Assemble a press release to the Union public Send speaker B to do it >Organize an interview with a Union media networkHave speaker C do it with lee>Head to Morgan's office right awaySend Speaker A to bitch out the security council
>>998980>Organize an interview with a Union media network (write in)See if we can get in with one that's reasonably pro-xeno so they won't do one of those asshole interviews with loaded questions.
>>998980>Head to Morgan's office right away.We want to know what we wants to keep secret, and what he will offer to keep it so.
>>998980>Assemble a press release to the Union publicnothing to big and flashy, but enough to make a point we come in many sizes. I'd prefer our kerrigan to be there but that's unlikely right?Also we are awfully close tooo >>1000000Hope it's a good one.
>>998984You know we already have Dyson spheres as fusion reactors right
>>998980>Data Wars>"That's the network that, uh, what was it. They claimed there was some Union-Valen research thing keeping fish people in tanks or something. Mostly conspiracy stuff. I bet they're having a blast today."Holy shit guys do NOT let Alex Jones in our embassy, he'll blow our shadowruns wide fucking open.
>>998980>OtherAsk Theseus if there's anything he'd like us to say to the public. We can probably get away with saying quite a lot the first time before someone tries to censor us.
>>998980>>Head to Morgan's office right awayLet's have something more to say for when we meet the press.
>>999007Problem is that nobody's going to believe that.Talking about horrors from the void that will consume all existence isn't the sort of thing they're going to accept without firsthand evidence, no matter how much of our own evidence we show them. Remember that what went on at the research station presumably isn't public knowledge.
>>999007YES, explain explain that they are bordering a insane, genocidal queen, have angered the ceph masters (The council will know what we are talking about) and have repeatedly pissed us off, they must take the deal or get fucked by 6 factions.Welcome to the big boy club, where apocalypses are daily.
>>999037That actually a really good idea.>>999042I was talking about BQ and the Scavengers dumbass.
Rolled 16227 (1d17000)>>998980>>Organize an interview with a Union media network (write in)Can I even roll a d17000? Trying it!
>>999034We should do it anyways, so when he airs all our shadowruns everyone will dismiss it as crackpot conspiracy theories.I'm also deeply curious about what he'll get wrong. It would be hilarious.
>>999049>>999034>HellMy post apparently fucked up somehow, please disregard.
>>999020Also, we might want to actually. Uh. Probe to find out how feasible his coverup of the incident at Nowhere is, and how much everyone in the system might have seen of it.I mean we might secretly want that coverup to succeed. The void "to see, must first be seen," and all.
>>999056Or we could say we like his ideas and will try them out. That would screw qith people
>>999053I guess this is a write in for one of the most obscure ones. Let's go with that.
>>998980>Head to Morgan's office right awayIt'd be nice to meet with Morgan in a setting where he is more comfortable and to show that we aren't necessarily going to demand the entire Expanse region without offering something in exchange.>Assemble a press release to the Union public (write in)We have no hostile intentions here and we hope for a peaceful and mutually beneficial relationship both with humanity and with the Union as a whole. However, your government has been meddling in powers far beyond their comprehension. Their actions, while not intentionally malicious to our knowledge, will have severe repercussions. It may already be too late for your civilization to avoid being drawn into a conflict it is not yet ready to face. We hope for your support and will support the Union in exchange so when the time comes we can stand strong together.>Organize an interview with a Union media network (write in)Pick all of them. We certainly have enough speakers. Any that mis-represent us or our positions will likely know such actions could have dangerous consequences.I would like to have Lee be interviewed on the network of his choice, however, if Lee will be doing any of the interviews.
>>999067>Imb4 "HIVE HAS TIME TRAVELING CAPABILITIES!"
>>999043Assuming people are agreeing on this course of action, here's some suggested phrasing:"Union research into higher dimensions has now drawn the attention of beings the Ceph refer to as gods. Now humanity as a whole will be drawn into a galactic scale conflict as a direct result, regardless of whether or not it is desired. The Hive is attempting to assist, defend, and make humanity ready for such a conflict. To this end, the Hive has already made allies of the Commonwealth, and would prefer for the Union to willingly engage in this alliance. To refuse this would be wasteful."
>>998980>Organize an interview with a Union media network (write in)The most down-the-middle news network
>>999083I would prefer to not mention the commonwealth alliance until we have one with the union already. I approve of encouraging better relations in the face of a common enemy at all stages though
>>998980>Head to Morgan's office right away>>999085But then not only will they be a lying press, they'll also be fake news. There's no winning.
>>999083No. none of that>>999070>However, your government has been meddling in powers far beyond their comprehensionDon't even mentioned that.
>>999086Correct me if I'm mistaken, as it's been quite awhile, but don't they already know?
>>999091Dammit, I'll need to archive binge until I remember who knows what.
>>999094I'm absolutely certain at the very least that the Commonwealth is aware that we're making waves in the Union right now. Someone specifically commented about it.
>>999091No they dont officially, but their spies have probably gotten hands on our joint defense battles in commonwealth against the scavs But they do know we have relations with the unity but that has been declared to the public either yet
>>999091They know something happened in the commonwealth when we sent all our ships to take down scavs (conveniently finding the shield dome research) but they don't have the details yet. They will probably find out soon.
We should be careful when we tell them about "powers beyond their comprehension". We should make it sound more like technology and less lovecraftian brain crystals.
>>999043Yes, I agree to explaining this. However, I think it's probably wiser to explain this to the Union counsel first before doing a press-release.I really, really DON'T think it's a good idea to mention the Commonwealth as our allies. The Commonwealth is essentially Soviet Russia to these guys. Imagine a bunch of aliens showed up during the Cold War and said they were allied with the Russians and were helping them fight off another threat. That's not a really good way to get the trust of the Union (the Americans in this analogy).
>>999088>But then not only will they be a lying press, they'll also be fake news.Surely you cant be this cynical anon? There is a market for impartial news
>>999106>They will probably find out soon.Wouldn't it be better if it came from us then?
I suppose we have leverage over the spooks of the Union because Lee could blab to a news agency about the man who doesn't exist, John Smith, who was on the mission that got him as the fall guy.He could blab about the human experimentation lab he was prisoner in.But what can they give us to incentivize him to keep it buried?Mind that if we actually do out them and destroy them politically, it leaves an immediate power vacuum which that suspicious cult preacher might fill. It would take more time if we want to set up our own puppet.
>>999102Yeah they know, we had a conversation with the admiral about it, he backed off on grilling us but we promised to go into detail about what happen with the head admiral >>999104meant to say that unity hive relationship hasn't been declared to the union public yet
>>999110Oh, I'm not. It's a reference. And sure there's a market, but the consumers for that aren't very loud.
>>999070They want an interview with Lee, not the bugs. They freakin' love that nerd.>>999083Let's keep a lid on it.
>>999037>>999043supporting.>>999063eh, I would rather tell them first so that we can go 'told you so' on them. after that they won't be able to dismiss our claims so easily.>>999108how about 'skills beyond your kind'?>>999109>>999111they will find our either way, but I don't think letting the public mass know right now is a good idea. especially when both of them went into open conflict recently. I can't imagine all the negative ways the media can spin this in.I could agree on letting the higher ups know if we can establish that we are being reasonable to them. dunnof if that doesn't work.
>>999116I'm not saying do it just yet but someday I want the Hive to try bringing up the peace between the Union and the Commonwealth. Then do that with the Unity.While the Union is being made to play nice with everyone we could possibly introduce the Unity to the Commonwealth. Get Theseus some more friends and places to expand his network
>>998980>Head to Morgan's office right away"Well, I don't want to keep him waiting." Lee says. He turns to your speaker which is having some difficulty removing the thin film of honey from its claws and mandibles, passing a cluster of dirt and metal shavings from one to the others as it quickly rubs its claws in frustration against its mandibles. It pauses momentarily to look back to Lee."Why don't you stay here and... work on your public image." He says. "Maybe we can get a short list of news networks and you can start working on that while I'm gone." He says and adds with a mental thought, "Keep in contact and give me my lines. I don't want to look like an idiot here.">Have Lang find a pro-xeno news program>Have Lang find a suposedly balanced news network>Have Lang find a partisan pro-xeno commentary network>Other
Lets not bring tell the masses about gods or other dimensions. Be vague, but not outright opaque.
>>999131>Have Lang find a supposedly balanced news network
>>999131>>Have Lang find a suposedly balanced news network
>>999131>Have Lang find a partisan pro-xeno commentary network
>>999126>tell them firstTell them what first? That has nothing to do with burying something that has already happened, with the giant 6-dimensional death blossom and shit.>>999131>>Have Lang find a pro-xeno news program
>Have Lang find a supposedly balanced news network
>>999131>OtherHave lang find a wack job outlet
>>999131>>Have Lang find a partisan pro-xeno commentary networkJust because.
>>999131>your speaker which is having some difficulty removing the thin film of honey from its claws and mandibles, passing a cluster of dirt and metal shavings from one to the others as it quickly rubs its claws in frustration against its mandiblesPoor Speaker. Somedrone get her some paper towelsAlso>Have Lang find a suposedly balanced news network
>>999131>Have Lang find a suposedly balanced news network.
>>999131>Have Lang find a supposedly balanced news networkA network that maybe doesn't normalize human-on-human crime and discrimination.We can look for a partisan network afterwards to mess with everyone.
>>999131>Have Lang find a suposedly balanced news network
>>999131>Have Lang find a pro-xeno news programWe want reach, but we also don't want to be working with loaded questions for our debut, and a pro-xeno program will be less likely to deliberately fuck us over due to the whole "annexing the Expanse" thing.
>>999131>>Have Lang find a partisan pro-xeno commentary network>"Keep in contact and give me my lines. I don't want to look like an idiot here."Why does this sound like it's setting up psi-blocking?
>>999131>Have Lang find a pro-xeno news program
>>999083Eh, I don't think mentioning the Ceph or the higher-dimensional research explicitly is a good idea (especially in a public release). For example, that could easily lead to lynch mobs attacking the Ceph or some loonies kidnapping the ceph to learn more about these higher dimensional enemies and then end up as slaves of the Void God.I'd suggest something more like this:"Union scientists made a grave 2[?] days ago in a secret research facility. We do not blame the citizens of the Union for this blunder, but you need to understand the ramifications of their blunder now makes large-scale warfare in Union territory all but inevitable. Yesterday enemy scouts probed the defenses of the planet Path. This is only the first wave of a conflict that is certain to envelop the entire Expanse region of a minimum. The enemy you will be fighting is not sane by our standards, and is extremely dangerous - having already driven galactic civilizations to their grave.For the stability and security of the sector it is imperative that our species be granted immediate access to the entire expanse region to prepare for the war to come for your safety as well as ours. We wish for this to be a peaceful transition, but will use force if all other means of negotiation or trade fail.We urge your immediate militarization in the face of this urgent threat*, and will be briefing your leaders on an as-needed basis.*the reason I urge their militarization is that asking for them to grow their military is the last thing an invading species would ask for them to do. Asking them to mobilize as quickly as possible should impress upon decision makers how deadly we consider this threat to really be.
>>999131>Have Lang find a suposedly balanced news networkThe big players should know enough to realize being hostile or spinning our words is a mistake when we have an invasion fleet in orbit. At least I hope so....
Someone remind me later when we're doing crunch to bring up the suggestion about making hidden nutrient farms on Huron since we have the filterfeeder towers. Not enough to make it noticeable of course
>>999182Seems mostly good all around, though I ponder the wisdom of directly stating that we'll resort to force if they refuse. Outright saying that will likely inflame tensions more than an obvious implication would.
Why don't we just use this first interview to say hello to the bipeds and keep all the secret spilling and manipulating till later. It's not like they are going anywhere.
>>999195>... spinning our words is a mistake when we have an invasion fleet in orbit.Watch them take our words out of context, somehow spinning it as proof that we've been planning an invasion all along. These interviews are just an attempt to keep the populace ignorant and glued to the screen.Wake up, sheeple!
>>999217Why not also talk about our race? We must be dying to brag about the superiority of the hive.
>>999195Remember, they can't allow themselves to be seen as weak.I've little doubt that under the circumstances they can and will portray us as evil invaders if they think they can win against us with a sufficient surge of patriotism.
What >>999223 said. People will spin all the time and for any reason.
>>999205You say that as if we think a war against the union is bad, any ground combat is an assured victory, they are already fighting the commonwealth, the worst it will do is occupy the time of some of our fleets and we can ask Theseus to help share the load.It's funny, the union is the one who would profit from giving us the expanse if they knew what we would could to them.
>>999182There's no need to be that detailed or forthright.We can spin it much simpler and keep it on-message with the whole, the so-called Expanse must be put in hive custody.Recent human intrusion into hive territory has to be reversed. Human activity has drawn the attention of the hive's enemies to this sector of space. (Which is true, the Tartarus reactor was human activity.) The hive must prepare for war, lest humans too be consumed by the enemy like so many other species.
>>999131>Have Lang find a supposedly balanced news network.Lee quickly leaves the courtyard, having no idea where he is going as a warrior follows close behind, its sensors mapping the halls ahead as he finds his way to the next security checkpoint. A guard examines the drone, unsure of himself or his actions as you listen to his mind weigh his orders against his common sense."Only representatives allowed inside." He squeaks."I think it's going to try to follow me in anyways." Lee says. The guard, a man far less armed or armored than those further outside, grips a stun baton nervously at his side."I don't think he will fit in the scanner. And for sure not in the elevator." He says as he takes a step back. Lee just scratches his head."Alright." He says and turns to your heavy warrior. "Just stay here." He says and walks through the scanner. The warrior inches forward in mild concern, the drone's function as a body guard seemingly in jeopardy."No, stay, right here. In fact, probably best you stick to the embassy, I'll be fine." The warrior groans, its chitinous armor flexing as it squirms in indecision until you recall its security duty until after the meeting."See." Lee says to the guard. "They just take their jobs very seriously." The man only nods."You have a good day sir." He says as he returns to his spot beside the security scanner.Cont.
>>999228>>999217I like the idea of initiating our first interview with low-key things.
>>999233Like the Russian hackers meme.
>>999228Well yeah, they are going to have questions. But no need to bring up nigger queen out void faggots. Not unless it would gain us something.
>>998554FOR MOTHER!A bit late to the party but so great to see HQQ
>>999239our warriors a qt
>>999244>>999240I think they find each of the Hives pretty interesting. I bet a lot of Greens will like Gardener and come to think of it we're a lot like our aunt.
>>999257Funnily enough, if you consider our mother to be human's "mother" (given her genetic tampering in them), we can be humanity's aunt as well.
>>999274wouldn't that be sibling?
You know all our diplomatic encounters with the union have been of military orgin we first meet them while they were invonflict with the union then they sent soldiers to do froced recon on the hive as well as sabotage our infestructure know we have a feet above ther homeworld.
>>999274Wouldn't that make us sibling species though?
>>999274Sibling, but yeah, probably shouldn't open that can of worms for them.
>>999234We just jumped a massive armada larger than their entire standing fleet into atmosphere over the capital planet (conveniently bypassing their defenses aimed at stopping the approach of ships from outside the system). They should be well and truly spooked.
>>999281>>999284Yes, my mistake (I guess I didn't get enough sleep last night).I suppose in that case we're humanity's little sister. Although we probably shouldn't bring that up at this point.
>>999285>>999274Yeah I doubt humanity's gonna react well to the news that they were the genetic experiment of our momnot to mention the shitstorm that would happen if it was discovered that the White Queen used humanity as a testing chamber for the Psionic Cannon leading to the Exodus of Earth
First thread! I caught up with the archives 1 HOUR after the last thread fell and I've been waiting for months!
I wonder what the new sewer hive under Path is doing!
Anyone remember what our plan was last thread? if so would you mind sharing?
Did we ever find out what happened when we critfailed looking for OQ contagion in that one space battle?
>>999305There's none right now, our agents are hiding with that rebel group but hopefully we get to see what BQ spores can do, maybe good Intel on what a ground invasion would entail
>>999322That's what happened. We didn't find out what happened.
>>999300Earth was turned into a shithole well before the moon blew up anyway, they should thank Mom for giving them the excuse to leave and ending the war.http://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/127735709221
>>999318Um let's seeHold the line against the scavs in commonwealth spaceSecure the shard in the mirageAnd some discussion about a either recon in force or a raid into BQ before She makes her next move
>>999305It's Gemini anon. The planet that we are currently on. Wait how is the Taidarens in the sewer doing?
>>999346They were pretty much loving the parasites last I remember.
>>999346Snug as a Taidaren in a sewer.
>>999343A raid to be honest is a bad idea. It would cause her to attack harder.>>999353>>999356I kind of want to see their perspective on this shit.
>>999254FormOther plushie line when?
>>999358Ever heard of a Spoiling Attack?Its not as if the OQ isnt already planning to attack us anyway.If we fuck her up the sooner, the more breathing room we can get.
>>999324>>999346That's why the word 'new' was there.It's new. And on Path. And it was about to be established 5 in universe days ago.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/47978791/#47980639>>>/tg/48096387>A point of light flickers in the sky, a single, glowing dot growing in size shooting across the sky. It grows closer, until its passing offers a distant thundering roar. The space pod arcs over the valley, illuminating it only briefly with a faint glow of atmospheric friction before bouncing off the top of a terrace and landing in the distant pine covered forests beyond with the sound of rolling thunder. It has scarcely cooled from its landing before the inhabiting drones consume it, fleeing into the wilderness in the direction of the distant skyline.
>>999358She already preparing her forces, either hit now to buy time or let her gather enough to do a big pushWe don't have the initiative right now and if she decides to launch forces at us and the unity and union we won't be able to stop herRaiding her at least some buy us time and let's us Guage what she is doing
So how them nano missiles work? the ones that dismantle ships. couldn't we just make an even bigger one of fire them in large numbers at one of her planets?
>>999361FormOther designer pet line. Families can design their custom-made pet based on an untold number of alien species and designsFormOther brand Spine-Pal included for test marketing* purposes and durability
>>999358She doesn't know where to attack
>>999239Lee quickly finds the elevator, and a conveniently placed map next to it. He flicks his hand over the screen and finds Morgan's office, and calls the elevator with a click to the screen.The office floor is near the top of the towers in the parliament building, but there are no windows, at least beyond the holo-displays. Oddly enough, it is possible to be too important to have a window office, it seems. You begin to suspect that all such offices are filled with people appointed as a favor, or to return such a favor, as opposed to their competence."Well, that would explain all the people you had to deal with up till now." Lee thinks. You find it to be a flattering statement of Union bureaucracy from what you have seen of it.The door slides open as if expecting him, and it likely was, as you notice the biometric scanners above every door. Morgan is sitting behind his desk, papers strewn about, with a bottle of clear liquid on his desk with a half-full glass in front of him, and an empty one across the table in front of an empty chair. He looks up to Lee as he takes a long sip of his glass."Ambassador Lee." He says. "Here, take a seat. I assume you have something akin to a detoxer?""A what?""A detoxer. Like a fake liver, or an implanted dialysis machine I suppose. Fights poisons, including, sadly in this case, alcohol. Standard issue for public officials of any importance, and your Hive certainly has leagues better medical tech than we do. I figured you'd have some kind of engineered organ implant that does the same thing. Probably better than mine.""Oh, right." Lee says. "I guess." Morgan begins filling the second glass."Well then here." He says. Lee slides into the empty chair and takes a whiff of the glass. It smells almost like rubbing alcohol. Lee glances at the bottle. It has a large image of Earth's moon, its face cracked like a mirror, with a line of large text wrapped around it reading "Cracked Moon Spirits Private Select, Brewed on Talgo, 75UC: 130 Proof" With a hand-scrawled note near the bottom reading "Welcome to the Lion's den. Watch your back, Conrad."Lee takes a reluctant sip and nearly chokes on it."What is this?" Lee asks. Morgan chuckles to himself for a moment before taking another long sip, and begins to refill his glass."Some manner of un-aged corn whisky. Apparently it's a thing on Talgo. Killinger gave it to me when I was first appointed Secretary of State. He called it moonshine.""Never heard of it." Lee says, then after a moment. "But I got a sudden feeling I know someone who would like some." Morgan shrugs."Well, he said it used to be a big deal on Earth, but never really caught on in the mainstream. I can see why." He says as he swirls the liquid in his glass, then takes another sip. "Now, let's talk.">Discuss the Hive's public relations with the Union>Discuss the Expanse Ultimatum (write in)>Other write in
>>999373Oh yeah, we already picked up some furby things
>>999368She can't attack us. Our capital planet has a psionic shroud. However she could try taking over other planets to preoccupy us.
>>999380>Discuss the Hive's public relations with the Union
>>999380>>Discuss the Hive's public relations with the Union
>>999380>Discuss the Hive's public relations with the UnionStart with the (relatively) small talk
>>999380>>Discuss the Expanse Ultimatum (write in)Are you imbibing because of the discussions with the rest of Parliament about the Expanse?What have they been saying? Does the press know yet? None of the Parliament reps have visited Lee yet.
>>999380>Discuss the Hive's public relations with the Union>Discuss the Hive's relations with the Commonwealth
>>999384A shroud doesn't mean she can't attack us. She can still use optical sensors and big rocks.
>>999380>Discuss the Hive's public relations with the Union.>Discuss the Expanse Ultimatum (write in)Well add in the skyl language.
>>999384>She can't attack us. Our capital planet has a psionic shroud.>>999403>optical sensors and big rocksThat's not even what that shit does anon. A psionic shroud has nothing to do with psionic cloaking.
>>999380>Other write inTalk about what happened at nowhere and how the void shards are going to send there slaves in force aka increase in Cephalon raids and BQ moving in force
>>999380Not a vote for ultimatum, but should it win: please emphasize that we're not making a demand out of desire, we're explaining a necessity born of severe circumstance, which will fuck up humanity just as hard if left unchecked. In order to keep things from getting worse, we need resources, and thanks to the human experiment we need them on an accelerated timetable.
>>999414This, just say that they attracted unwanted attention, to us and to humanity.
>>999372Yes we could, if we can get close enough to her planets to launch them.The process is slow an she could stop it like the way they stop forest fires, by destroying swathes of what it could feed on to spread and leave it barren. Like cutting off a limb to save the body.So it's an attack that will only work once before she has lots of countermeasures installed like larger amounts of self destruct acid sacs. So we need to do it on as many important planets as possible at once.Which means first getting the scouting pods data from all her systems.
>>999380I suppose we should mention, is there still communications blackout with Nowhere?Is there a lot of civilian chatter on what happened?
>>999425Even if she gets countermeasures there are other uses, like making landing spots.Plus i imagine we will also combine it with railgun and nuclear bombardment.
>>999410>That's not even what that shit does anon. A psionic shroud has nothing to do with psionic cloaking.Are you retarded? Psionic shroud completely hides psionic signals while psionic cloaking creates a detectable signal that hides your physical location. Not mention Leeland's atmosphere hides us from opticals.
>>999372We already have planet buster missiles.
>>999380>Discuss the Hive's public relations with the Unionbe sure to mention >>999414 and >>999422
>>999422To be honest the other half of is we don't trust them with the artifacts and don't trust them in general.
>>999380>>Discuss the Expanse Ultimatum (write in)"Look, Mr. Morgan, I'm sorry for the hive's abruptness about the request for the Expanse. They can be a bit... blunt at times. The thing is, they really do need it. You woke up something really bad in that experiment on Nowhere. I can't say more about it now, but there's a lot of bad stuff coming our way. That attack on Path yesterday, that's only the beginning. The Hive doesn't want the Expanse because they're greedy, they want it because it's necessary to win a conflict we, humanity, just kicked into high gear. Mr. Secretary, there's a war coming. We really want to be allies with you. I mean, uh, the Hive kind of likes humans. And they want to trade or be diplomatic and stuff about taking this territory. But it's a fight for survival for them. And now it's the same for us as well.
>>999445Huh, must've forgotten about that
>>999473I like this.
>>999478The Immolater Warheads. The pre-extinction Skyll worshipped it if I'm remembering right
>>999473I like this. An addendum:This war that is coming, will be like the meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs. There will be nothing you can do to stop it. There may not be anything the Hive can do to stop it. But believe me, if you don't do what we are asking you too right now, there will be nowhere for humanity to hide. Make it very clear that this isn't about negotiations or a power struggle.
>>999473I like this. It conveys everything without giving up too much.
>>999477What caused this again? Because I know its canon.
>>999380>>999486Add in prev. anon's line about the Hive wanting the Union to militarize heavily and we're golden.
>>999505Speaker cut off from hive during the Commonwealth capital ship ftl jump
>>999505The Commonwealth ship that the Speaker was on slipped into warp space as it traveled to the system being attacked by scavs. Drones lose their connection to the Hive while in warpspace and it got weird.
>>999505The commonwealth drives travel through the warp process, meaning any of our drones are cut off from our influence while they're warping.Turns out our speakers are naturally pretty weird without our influence guiding them.
>>999512>>999514>>999516Thank god the Captain was cool with us, I forgot it was cause of the FTL.
>>999516He was a good speaker! He kept speaking because good speakers speak so he kept speaking and was a good speaker by speaking!
>>999380>>999473This is pretty good.
>>999444That's what I said, they're completely different things. Why are you repeating that.I assumed you must've got the shroud confused with psionic cloaking, since that is the only known tech that really could make it near impossible for a Queen to directly attack someone, since they and the region they live in don't seem to exist, with a cloak big enough.You're the retard who said OQ "can't attack us" and thanked the psionic shroud for it. All it does is make it virtually impossible to hear the hive's psychic chatter.>atmosphere hides usWe couldn't even hide from the HUMANS once we scaled past a certain size due to the sheer heat signatures of all our industry, OQ isn't gonna think Leeland is uninhabited. And w're building a bloody capillary tower, the OQ would know we have Leeland colonized at a glance just from the traffic and heat emissions alone, let alone our permanent space elevator structure.
>>999516did we ever get to read just what he said?
>>999473>>999483>>999485>>999486>>999491>>999498>>999501Shouldn't we also tell them we don't trust them.>>999511We don't want to militarize so much as stay the fuck out of our million year old conflict. They can kill each other for all we.
>>999528>We couldn't even hide from the HUMANSWe can hide from their long range scans just fine. The only reason was ever even a concern is because we let them put a low-orbit satellite in that specifically penetrates the cloud cover.
>>999477NyeheheheI always liked how that pic turned out. Here, have a Taidaren!
>>999536Ain't that first one implicit? We arrived with a fleet for a reason, fairly sure Morgan knows it's ion cannon diplomacy.
>>999534something about political structure, judging from his reactions.
>>999536>Shouldn't we also tell them we don't trust themWhy would we ever tell them that out loud? It won't fucking help.
>>999534We caught the tail end of it, I recall, where the speaker was rambling about round humans and their qualities as human speakers, as well as his dislike for a certain round human.
>>999380Later, can we finalize our embassy design that we were working on last thread?I wanna see the reactions of the various representatives to our pimped out crib.
>>999539Taidaren are the bestAlso reminder that if the Union decides to really fuck us over we have a whole population of Taidaren just waiting to get the signal to turn into chimera to unleash hell
I feel like at some point we should speak directly with the people who have all the power in the Union, as in speaking directly through our speaker. No bullshit, just straight up tell them that WE could annihilate them, and that if they want a sliver of a chance at retaining their power (they won't have that chance, but they can think that for a while), they will bend over and take it. We can be nice to the people at the bottom, but if the people at the top want to fuck around and try to play politics with us, we should make it clear we have zero intention of playing ball with them.
>>999380"Well, I have to ask, why exactly are you drinking yourself under the table?" Lee asks. Morgan shakes his head."Nothing else to do. Besides, best I can get is a bit of a buzz with the detoxer. It scrubs the liver as fast as I can drink." He says, looking into his glass intently. "I passed off the offer you gave us, and that was that. Now it's up to them to deliberate. I urged them to consider it wisely, that this was no time for hubris, and now I just wait.""Well... what do you know about the public response so far?" Lee asks. Morgan grins."Complete chaos." He says. "We have riots across twenty cities across six worlds. The media blackout did shit, although after the briefing on the incident at the Nowhere base, I doubt you were the real reason for the blackout, but the timing was bad. Or good, I still can't tell how much Jack isn't telling me." He takes another swig of his glass. "It's all hush-hush, but it's big enough that everyone down to local planetary senators can see the great big gaping hole in the records right now, not to mention a few pirate videos of the incident, however grainy and low rez they are. Everyone just knows something massive went down in nowhere, and nobody knows what, and those who do know say 'nothing'. It's already become a joke among the bureaucrats. 'Much ado about Nowhere' they say.""Of course, outside the bureaucracy everyone is focused on the fleet in orbit, and now the Path incident." He groans. "And people are starting to circulate some pixilated long range scanners of the ships at New Port. You could probably see it online without much trouble at this point." He leans back, looking at Lee with his glass in hand. "Funny, with all that chaos, they all assumed the blackout was over the fleet arrival and it's making it spread like wild fire, while the Nowhere incident is getting buried. Much ado about Nowhere indeed.""Well, that's good I suppose. That footage would probably be a bit more frightening than-""I saw the footage. Not much of it, just what I was cleared for. I saw something cut a Server Ship clean in half in less than ten seconds. Ten goddamn seconds. Do you have any idea what the estimated shield rating of a Server Ship is? How thick their hulls are? We have taken two of them down so far. With an entire fleet armed to the teeth and we were able to take down two, not even at the same time, and this thing slices it in half in less than ten seconds."cont.
>>999584Tbqh I like more playing the political game as though the ball is already ours.Because it fucking is.
How scared would humanity be if they knew as much as we did on the Void Gods?
>>999591well at least it looks like morgan understand the gravity of the situation
>>999591>"I saw the footage. Not much of it, just what I was cleared for. I saw something cut a Server Ship clean in half in less than ten seconds. Ten goddamn seconds. Do you have any idea what the estimated shield rating of a Server Ship is? How thick their hulls are? We have taken two of them down so far. With an entire fleet armed to the teeth and we were able to take down two, not even at the same time, and this thing slices it in half in less than ten seconds."The Union Elite are shit themselves hard.
>>999591>I saw something cut a Server Ship clean in half in less than ten seconds. Ten goddamn seconds. Do you have any idea what the estimated shield rating of a Server Ship is? How thick their hulls are? We have taken two of them down so far. With an entire fleet armed to the teeth and we were able to take down two, not even at the same time, and this thing slices it in half in less than ten seconds.Holy shit
>>999591Hm. Maybe we won't have to try so hard to convince them of the gravity of the situation.
>>999591>"I saw the footage. Not much of it, just what I was cleared for. I saw something cut a Server Ship clean in half in less than ten seconds. Ten goddamn seconds. Do you have any idea what the estimated shield rating of a Server Ship is? How thick their hulls are? We have taken two of them down so far. With an entire fleet armed to the teeth and we were able to take down two, not even at the same time, and this thing slices it in half in less than ten seconds."That's pretty terrifying.
>>999608Ever read a story by HP Lovecraft?People are going to lose their shit, and some I'm sure would even start worshiping whatever's in the Void.
>>999617You know if lee says that the hive is even more terrified i wonder how Morgan will react
I just hand an idea, we could learn the weird mind thing the valen human was doing and maybe, just maybe it might help us hide from the void gods gaze.
>>999624Well we don't call it god for nothing
>>999629No it won't.
>>999591Poor Theseus, starring in the role of 'the tough guy who gets hurt just to show how dangerous this bad guy is'.
>>999629It's like if you start talking about potatoes to a secret agent when you think someone is listening. An eavesdropper knows you are there, just doesn't know what you were talking about
>>999661Can't believe he got Worfed
>>999661He got Worf'd
>>999629So....you want to teach the drones to say "FOR MOTHER" even more frequently?
>>999661Wait until they find out how many server ship he lost against the BQ.
>>999684>FOR MOTHER>I KNOW YOU'RE IN HERE, NOT-MOTHER>LA LA LA LA>IT'S TIME TO GET SCHWIFTY
>>999661In this case, it works to our advantage though. The Union needed evidence about how seriously fucking fucked they would be if the Void came knocking, and this fit the bill excellently.
>>999638Well i don't see any other ideas on how to prevent the void gods from fucking us up the minute we think about godsplitter.>>999665Yes, and that way we prevent the void gods from getting our secret sensitive information, like where our fleets are and if we are building the cannon.
>>999703Psionic insulation + Quantum relays.
>>999697Lets just teach them to mentally shout "STRANGER DANGER" until the void leaves them alone
>>999703But if all we do is go LALALALALALALALA, we won't be able to command our drones
>>999703>other ideas on how to prevent the void gods from fucking us up the minute we think about godsplitter.We have allies, we don't need to think about it ourselves.
>>999591Good thing nobody noticed the blackout was put in place like two days before the hive fleet arrived at Gemini.
>>999591"I assure you, it's not something that is worth trying to resear-""You think I don't know that?" He snaps. "We live in a world where just about everything we use, not even our weapons, our ships, our power systems, all are things capable of obliterating us with one wrong move. I sit here, and I think 'what if someone drives a warp-engine into a city?' "what if an orbital tether is cut?' "What if someone drops a power tap on a planet?' We have fleets, procedures, contingencies all designed to answer those uncomfortable 'what if's, and then I see this, and Jack's brainiacs that get paid to be paranoid can't figure out a single damn way to stop something like that.""Well that is, at least partly, why the Hive is here now." Lee says, leaning in. Morgan finishes his glass and sets it loudly on the table."I swore when I got off Eridanus I'd never let myself feel that helpless again." He says as he grips the neck of the bottle on his desk. "And here I am, Secretary of State of humanity's largest republic, and I can't do a goddamn thing." Lee grabs the bottle as Morgan tries to refill his glass again, planting it firmly on the desk."Look, I get that. I know the feeling. First time I saw the Hive I thought they were going to eat me. I know it's abrupt and their demands are a bit high, but believe me, it's not meant to be some punishment, it's what they need. Things are going to get a lot worse, Path is just the start. That was a scouting fleet. You want to see a real fleet, you look up in orbit, that's what you can expect, over every world. They don't want to rule a bunch of humans, but we just kicked a hornet's nest on a literal cosmic scale, and the Hive is the only thing close to capable of stopping it." Lee pulls the bottle out of Morgan's grip and his hand falls to the desk. "There is a war coming, Mr. Secretary. Neither of us want it, but it's coming and it doesn't care what you or I want.""I get why you care, but why would the Hive?" He asks blandly."Well. I guess, the Hive sorta likes humans, mostly. Honestly given everything the Union has but them through, I don't know why, but I don't think you should look that gift horse in the mouth. Now they need, and I mean need the expanse. Right now they are willing to give you something in exchange, but that deal won't last forever. They need it to survive, and now, humanity needs to give it to them to survive too."Cont.
>>999703I've got one. Put the queen in an anti-psionic chamber with a hard connection to a dedicated thinker and relay outside the chamber. Only non-cannon thoughts are passed to the relay; Godsplitter planning stays inside the shielded command center.
>>999724Data Wars either knows it was something else that caused the blackout or thinks the union knew in advance of the Hive
>>999726>Eridanus Called it. We should offer terraforming for that planet.
>>999715You mean the idea of going in a silence chamber for a minute and hoping the itching is gone when we come out? Cause i want to do that but it's still save to try everything.Also I'm pretty sure QD said in his Ask orders through quantum relays aren't good.>>999717true, it will probably be something likePOTATO IRISH ISLAND BLUE A2 TONY GUN EXPLOSION D6 BOTTLE SODA CAN CAN FIRE PONY IVE SUNK YOUR BATTLE SHIP!
>>999743>Also I'm pretty sure QD said in his Ask orders through quantum relays aren't good.Anything smaller than an A class relay isn't good.
>>999754It's not the class, it has something to do with the thinkers not trusting the orders from it.
>>999727How sure are we that a 3-dimensional chamber would protect from the attention of a hyperdimensional being?I'd think it would be like a flat being on a piece of paper trying to prevent you from seeing it by drawing a circle around itself.
>>999762That's radio waves. Completely different.>>999767They can't spy on us for one.
>>999767You have obviously never played were's Waldo
>>999772We're gonna need a lot of waldos.
>>999767I think it's more like turning into the color of the paper itself, at least i hope it's like that.>>999770Can you post the ask from both please? I'm to lazy to dig through it and i am reading another quest.
>>999767That's true to a point, but bear in mind that the vast majority of a hypothetical fourth dimension of space would never intersect with 3D space, just like how most of the observable universe would never intersect with an infinite 2D plane.If we limit the area of 3D space those signals occupy, we reduce the likelihood of them being intercepted by chance or casual observation. I don't expect this method to hold up to sustained interest or investigation, but if we've provoked their focused attention then that means we've already fucked up. This is meant to help keep that from happening.
>>999767How about a flat being in a pond, making ripples into higher dimensions. Now imagine moving from a pond to a teacup, the ripples are a lot less noticeable.
>>999787Yeah, at this point they are vaguely aware of us, not actively seeking us
>>999778It was explained why in thread 57.4.>>999787>>999789>>999767Dimensions seem to work differently in this quest.
Reminder for the anons arguing about psionic safety measures:We can mutate ourselves to adapt, and we probably should given that OQ's trump card against every other queen was a mind attack.
>>999792>>999778Post no. 48301562>Sadly, that is not biologically possible, as drones recognize their queen or friendly hive intelligences by the hive network. Radio, or any other non-psionic transmission method can send the fact ammount of data that is processed by a drone as it exports its higher brain functions to the rest of the hive. A thinker could be ordered to recognize a person and follow their commands, but such a command structure would be difficult at best, as the non-thought based communication lacks the detail the thinker otherwise uses to establish its standing orders.>Your drones cannot be hacked or tricked into serving anyone else, but they also can't be made to directly accept orders through non-psionic means. Thinkers can carry out orders without a queen's constant presence, and be told to follow the mental orders of another friendly, related queen or, in your case, psionic individual, but they would still struggle to parse out the details of anyone's verbal commands due to a perceived lack of detail and context.
>>999762>>999770Are you talking about the 'send in psionically cloaked units and thinkers with quantum relays' thing.Which we need more miniaturization research to pull off apparently? Are we supposed to ask Theseus about it first.>>>/tg/48001027> the potential of having a drone be commanded by the hive via Qcom relay instead of psionic relay? In such a case, the drone would need to have a quantum thinker, as a standard drone is entirely reliant on the mental signal of the hive itself to function. Such a drone would be unable to verify that it is the hive sending it orders, and as such would refuse and ignore any commands sent by Qcom. A thinker, however, could be commanded to use a Qcom relay to accept amendments to its orders, but would still require reconnecting to the hive in order to be filled in on the details of a new mission. Such orders or simple info like "kill x person near you" or "y group is aware of your presence" or simply "abort, return to hive/self destruct" could be sent via Qcom.
>>999726Morgan takes a deep breath, and exhales slowly. He looks at Lee with a worried smile."Where did it all go wrong?" He says"When you started using alien artifacts that are claimed to be artifacts of a space-god to punch a hole in the universe." Lee says. "At least, I think that's the spot we can all agree part where things went bad." Morgan lets out a chuckle."Yea, that would be a good place to start." He says as he picks up a piece of paper. "You know they named that thing a Tartarus reactor? Look at his blueprint, it's literally a goddamn pentagram." He says at least half in jest. "I mean, I get it, we're a modern, logical society, but when somebody discovers what could potentially be something even mildly akin to hell, our first response as a species should not be to start building a goddamn drill to bore a hole into it." He tosses the papers away in annoyance. "And now they just hand be this like it's just another run of the mill terror attack. Goddamnit, Jack this isn't another tale of your drunk errand boy Lyle shooting up a bar. I can't just pay off a few people and shift some welfare around to cover this up." He says, his head sulking into his hands as he props himself on the table by his elbows, his fingers digging in his hair. "And I bed you do have this place bugged you son of a bitch!" He shouts at a light fixture. "Fuck you, you can go right to hell! You and your goddamn pet projects have done more harm than the Ceph, the Unity, and the Commonwealth combined you goddamn prick!" He finally rests his head back in his hands and glances back to Lee."I'm not exactly acting professionally, am I?" He says quietly. He lets out a sigh and adds "I thought I was cut out for this job. Maybe I was wrong. Maybe I should just go back to corporate day trading."Lee sits quietly for a few moments as Morgan rubs his eyes firmly and leans back in his seat again."So." He says finally. "No point talking about what I can't change. You said the Hive was willing to give us a trade for these worlds before they just demand them. What's the offer?">Write in
>>999799Except we can't mutate deafness to psionic signals into ourselves, which is the sole defense against psionic jamming.Just give the Queen's throne room a panic room makeover, treat it exactly like that silence chamber we built. It remains connected to the hive, but can be cut off easily in emergency.>>>/tg/48446300
>>999813This...this is a man who knows he's well and truly in over his head now.
>>999813>We'll provide you secruity details and loaned fleets to deal with incursion along with aid in some 'research' for certain 'weapons' Also food and other medical supplies.Give them scraps at the barely minimal but have it carefully checked before we had it over so its the LOWEST possible we can spare.Also too woo them over and whatever else you guys think we should give them.
>>999804Basically the ability for drones to use Qcoms would have to be something that the queen and drones are born with and would still be less effective than the tacyhon communication we already have.
>>999804>>999804I was just about to post the first one.Thanks for digging.
>>999813How about no more Unity attacks? How about protection from the Scavengers and BQ? How about terraforming any planets you want in 14 days? Hell we'll do everything we can to fix the whole situation on Aral.
>>999822>>999835Pretty much these.
>>999813i'll add this >>999835 too >>999822
>>999813Right, we'll offer security, supplies, and what else? Technology maybe?We can't just lowball them or the people might rise up in protest, even if the top brass are willing to work with us.
>>999835Yeah these are good
>>999813I think he putting up a act to see our response to certain names and to gain Lee trust
>>999813>Info on the OQ and Scavs>Offer to terraform world/s of their choosingTerraforming is a lot more expensive and basic using human technology compared to our tech, so that's a particularly good deal considering their major complaint was how much resources they had spent establishing that territory. I want to research those things that live on a star though, bargain for that.
>>999822Offering too low will cause rejection, or at least resentment. We're trying to build good PR. Also, if we can use what we give them to help make them a more useful ally, it'll be material and dronepower well spent.
>>999813Tactical information about OQ's battle strategies and how not to let your planets not get turned into hive worlds
>>999843We could also offer life extending like were doing to the Commonwealth
>>999846>I want to research those things that live on a star though, bargain for that.This, star bugs soon
>>999848I meant for OUR tech level, I want them to be able to fight with us, Not just be shields.
>>999813The cure for pretty much every biological ailment known to human kind, buy-in access to the most expansive number-crunching think-tank this side of the Unity, numerous technological improvements, and maybe, if you think society can handle it, immortality.
>>999813We developed a few technologies almost explicitly for this, stuff that wouldn't lead to any of our good tech but that they would be all over. Anti-Gravity, Holosuites, Immortality, Comfortable Chairs, the list goes on. Offering these at just above cost would seem incredibly generous while not actually costing us anything.
>>999835Not everything at once Steve
>>999813>The skyl language, although i warn you the tech you will gain from understanding the artifacts is a weakness, not a strength, the only reason we use it so effectively is because we had for over 70'000 years.The language cypher will be good bait to convince the others of this deal.>And for you a free terraforming of Eridanus. (THats the ruined union planet right?)>>999822>>999835Also these.
>>999860why though? not like they could build and use psi cannons. at least, right now.
>>999813We'll assist in the extermination of any incursions into human star systems.Believe me, the enemy hive would make much worse neighbors, and they will never leave you be.
We should offer something that will give visible, tangible benefit to the masses.Something they see/interact with daily that'd make them say "Wow I'm sure glad those awesome insect things decided to ally with us and not murder us all".
>>999835These are good. We have more tantalizing goodies in our advanced biotech and medical technology for future 'trades'.
>>999857You want to give them our latest techs? and you want them to fight with us.report to recycling anon
>>999868like gravity plates?
>>999868like how the elders did in xcom 2?
>>999835>do everything we can to fix the whole situation on Arallet's not make crazy promises that will only draw us deeper into the valen web of entanglements like that anon.
>>999866Where did I mention Psi anything? I was talking about our more efficient reactor designs, structural engineering, medical services, and basically renting thinker time like an old-school university mainframe.
>>999868How did we unlock the holotraining again?
>>999861Second ing this. A lot of threads were spent building thus stuff
>>999835>How about no more Unity attacks?Also we can't make promises on behalf of other people.I mean at the end of the day sometimes there's just a cyber cleaning facility that needs glassing.
>>999813>>999853Right, let's offer>>999822>>999835and >>999861and see how it goes
Can that anon post his tech pastebin? I need it.
>>999860>buy-in access to the most expansive number-crunching think-tank this side of the Unitythat's an interesting idea. Selling thinker time as processing time. If I remember, we're at the point of max returns for thinkers anyway.It'd be an easy, cheap way to generate credits.>>999868humans would get tons of use out of grav plates, but that's incredibly valuable tech, I'm not sure we should be giving it away. And once we've sold it, everyone else will eventually get ahold of it.
Lets not throw everything at them at once
>>999868Sounds like a job for Spine Buddies: Your Best Internal Pal!
>>999813Immortality. Not like it means anything to us.
>>999813>>999835Good idea. Although I'd hint a bit more strongly about the possibility of providing extremely valuable medical supplies without outright saying we have the secret to eternal life (yet).
>>999893I disagree.>>999892Raises a good point.
>>999873> LOWEST possible we can spare>of OUR tech level
>>999875No>>999892Actually Unity wants peace between him an the Union.
>>999903Right, we can't really promise anything for Unity, but the rest seems sound.
>>999892You have a good point. I think we can probably offer enough to Theseus that he'll agree to our offer. We may want to make the offer of no Unity attacks contingent on the Union not actively trying to effectively commit genocide against Theseus (or conduct research in how to kill him, etc.)
>>999911except the scav protection too, they aren't attacking them and probably never will once we're done with them.
>>999897Let's offer everything at once for maximum impact, then let them establish which sound most important to them. The rest we'll leave for future negotiations as our relationship improves, incentivizing a long-term view of things. Paint the deal as a down payment on a long and profitable arrangement.
>>999892Yeah, it'd be foolish to.
>>999813Terraform earth, but only if you give Australia to the commonwealth.
>>999906Unity wants to infect all the human systems peacefully, to maintain the peaceful manipulation of humans to keep them from from being unpeaceful.You gotta glass a facility or two that removes Unity viruses to ensure future peacekeeping capabilities.
>>999813>Offer peace with the Unity>Offer biological immortality>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Offer research>Offer all>Other (write in)
>>999905The tech pastebin btw: http://pastebin.com/z4yZdEbKI vote nothing from the weapons/armour category until negotations have progressed some more.Let's do one or two big things like terraforming/unity protection mixed with a few smaller techs like gravity plates and holo-tech.
>>999926>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever"I doubt that any politician would not jump for this
>>999926>>Offer peace with the Unity>>Offer biological immortalityThese
>>999926>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters.>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)Against ceph and OQ>Offer researchThe holotraining, it will make awesome games for the public.>Other (write in)Skyl language, it's good bait for the others.
>>999926>>Offer peace with the Unity>>Offer biological immortality>>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>>Offer military assistance against the OQ and the Scavs
>>999917Agreed. It's a carrot or stick approach. You can get all these great awesome things. With the implied threat that the alternative is fighting the massive fleet in orbit and getting wrecked before an even greater threat appears.
>>999926Wait are our two options for giving immortality still only the bug-buddies and the syrum that you need to a constant supply of?Cause from their point of view, that'd be sketchy as fuck.
>>999926>>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)I was thinking of terraforming barren worlds too though.I wouldn't mind offering to broker peace with Unity but we I'm against promising anything further
>>999926>Offer biological immortality>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Other>grav plates
>>999926>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)
>>999926>>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)leave off immortality for now, but hint we can offer something even better. We can't makes promises for the Unity. Terraforming is excellent PR. We've got a lot of ship just idling. Let's put them to use.
>>999926>Offer biological immortality>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)Remember that we are taking a shitton of their planets, so offering them more (within reason) will make things go more smoothly with them in general.
>>999926>Offer peace with the Unity>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer research - Gravity Plates
>>999926>>Offer mediation of peace talks with the Unity>>Offer biological immortality, if they believe society can handle it>>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>>Offer defensive military assistance, including against the Commonwealth, but make clear that it goes both ways>>Offer research assistance>offer non-weapons-grade hologram tech, gravity plating
>>999926>>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disastersNote that being too generous means you can't trade those things for other things later.We can't spend all our potential offers at once here.Theseus has always found humanity's fear of him just as useful a manipulation tool as potential peace.And immortality and research are just too insanely valuable, we could trade those to individual parties multiple times instead of all at once right now.
>>999943They are still free to turn it down, and this is only the top level offer, some of these offers would involve more detailed negotiations later, such as the details of any peace deal with the Unity, or the logistics of how to administer any anti-aging therapy. At this point you're just picking which shiny keys to jingle in front of the Union.
Jesus fucking Christ all these people just trowing all of our best shit in his face.Why
>>999926>>Offer biological immortality>>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>>Offer researchJust the harmless stuff, holograms and gravity plates.
What if we offered tech on the condition that it would go straight into the public domain? That would really swing public opinion.
>>999926>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Offer peace with the Unity (Talk it over with Unity first)>>999927>gravity plates and holo-tech>smallAre you fucking stupid?
>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)
>>999959Agreed, but we should try to stamp out the current wars so we can prepare for the comming ones. So fixing the issues with Unity should be a priority and I don't think just offering new planets will be enough to bargain for giving away their old ones.
>>999926>>Offer peace with the Unity>>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)
>>999926>Offer peace with the Unity>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever"
>>999970because retardation. it happens after a quest has been gone for a while and then comes back
>>999959But offering more right now will pay in later dividends of goodwill (from the people, obviously, since the brass are machiavellian assholes).
>>999926>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Offer peace with the UnityI imagine the "Peace with the Unity" option will be a more involved process and this is just offering to start the process itself.
>>999926>Offer peace with the Unity>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)My personal suggestion is we hold off on offering biological immortality for now as that is a very big offer that we want to save (for negotiations with the Valen, Commonwealth, etc). It's still fine if we decide to go the other way, though.
>>999926>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Offer peace with the UnityThis one only after consultation with Unity and setting the framework for peace to work.
>>999966Would giving them parasites allow them to research their psionic arrays?
>>999971>>999958>>999957>>999971Why do you want to give them nanomachines? Why do you want to give them photonic microstructs?
>>999973Small by comparison.Yes these are game changers, that's the point. But they're gamechangers to modern life, not to intergelactic warfare. We need to win over the general populace as well as the governments in-charge.
Woah, what the fuck? What is with people offering up to hand over the fucking cure all and immortality for essentially nothing? For something we could easily take by force?
>>999926 >Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)
Guys, please. We can give them medical tech when it's clear they're not just going to double-cross us.And we can't just outright say we can broker peace between them and Unity.
>>1000001The tech used to make them is FUCKING BROKEN.
>>1000000Because of what the guy who posted after you said, Mr. Million Post sir.
>>999989>Goodwill.>From the council and politicians.Hell even the public might fuck us over, they are fickle.
>>999926>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Add the offer of peace with Unity>Add the offer of immortality treatments>Add research (write in)>Add other>Propose deal as is
>>999959We can still take away those other offers later. Once they have our "gifts" it'll be political suicide to deny us what we want should we decide to revoke them.For example: Grandpa's dying of cancer but the space bugs won't cure him due to the stupid current political party. Let's vote for the other one to save him.
>>1000018>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Add the potential offer of peace with Unity
>>1000018>>Propose deal as isHoly shit, the cure all is already enough.
>>1000018>Add the offer of peace with Unity
>>1000000Nice digits. They could probably reverse engineer it in a few years, but I'm not to terribly concerned by that. The plan when we developed holosuites and gravity plates in the first place was to sell or trade them to humans in some manner or other. This seems like a good opportunity to get maximum gain from them, as opposed to just credits or something.
>>1000000I never mentioned nanotechnology, and I specified only partial hologram tech. I.e. displays and happiness feedback but no blasters or hand light constructs.
>>1000018>Add the offer of peace with Unity>offer terraforming.
>>1000001holo is smallerER, but the only artificial gravity for the res of the galaxy comes from spinning, which requires complex design, construction, use , and maintenance. Grav plating would revolutionize humanity's ability to traverse and colonize space.
>>1000018>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)Even if just this, it's still huge offer in public favor.
>>1000018Give them nothing because of the dirty apes they are
>>1000018>Remove the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever"
>>999979>we should try to stamp out the current wars so we can prepare for the comming onesIt hardly counts as war with Unity. Occasional raids. Very occasional. The costs are insanely low compared to full out war.>>999989All the people with real power are machiavellian assholes and they are the ones that have what we want.One of the only guys who may not be an asshole is probably secretly brainwashed by the crystals.
>>1000015Reread what I said. I acknowledged there's no point to appealing to the council.>>1000018>Add the offer of mediating peace with Unity
>>1000034That's not very nice even though it's true anon.
>>1000018>Add research (write in)Skyl language, remember to lay bait for the others.Let's go ask Theseus if he wants peace.
>>999998No, they would first need to advance further along in the field of biotech, and your parasites lack a relay advanced enough to offer much in the way of reverse engineering. They would lack any real starting point. It would be like handing Edison an iPhone6 and telling him to figure out how to make it himself a decade before he even finishes the phonograph.
>>1000018>>Propose deal as isno unity peace. We have to talk to Theseus first.
>>1000032Holo would lead to Multilayer shield and blasters. Which are powerful.
>>1000018>add think-tank time rental for research purposes>present the deal
>>1000018>Propose deal as isi hate you guys
>>1000018>>Propose deal as is
>>1000018>Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Offer military assistance (except against the Commonwealth)>Ping Theseus and ask if they would be partial to peace
>>1000018>Propose deal as isWe should hint at opening up peace talks with Unity, but not offer it outright. Some (stupid) people may still want to continue the war against Theseus and if we align ourselves too overtly with him we risk angering that fragment of the population.
>Propose deal as is
>>1000049right, my QD universe lore is rusty.
>>1000018>Propose deal as is
>>1000000Oh by the way, sweet digits, I almost didn't notice.
>>1000018>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever">Offer assistance terraforming worlds damaged by war or natural disasters>Add the offer of peace with Unity
>>999987It sucks because a lot of these cats aren't very easy to put back in the bag if we choose to let them out.>>1000001Technically we can win over the populace with mass psionic influence from stealth hives, anon, if that's really an important goal.
>>1000068YES, LETS OFFER SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T TALKED WITH THE OTHER PARTY ABOUT, GENIUS ANON YOU SHOULD WIN A GOD DAMNED NOBEL PRICE
>>1000067Can we talk to Unity as well and see what its take is on the trade, especially since we're considering whether to broker peace between the two.
>>1000077It's implied to be an offer of mediation, anon.
>>1000004There was part of anon's write-in that maybe not everybody noticed. We snowballed from here.>>999473>And they want to trade or be diplomatic and stuff about taking this territory.I thought gunboat diplomacy was more than diplomatic enough.
>>1000067QD could we vote on whether or not we want to give>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever"Because this is technically a big deal.
>>1000090This, it's not like this is some spare change we're handing out
>Add the offer of peace with Unity
I think peace with Unity would be good for them but how would we do it exactly?Explain Theseus real goals and motivations? Give them some kind of leverage over Unity?
>>1000102Have you thought about asking Theseus if he wants peace?
>>1000109He does, but I also think he doesn't want them encroaching on his territory either.
>>1000102That'd be why we don't offer it now, but instead have a metaphorical sit-down with Theseus and talk about it.
>>1000018> Propose deal as is
>Propose deal as is>>1000018>>Offer the cure to "pretty much every aliment ever"is this nanomachines? because if it is y'all who voted for it need to seriously reconsider your life choices, preferably while standing on a tall building or bridge
>>1000109The only reason he does try for peace is because he doesn't think it is possible.
>>1000024You mean something like>Sorry human public, due to the ongoing war efforts draining our nutrient reserves the hive hospitals on Path, Gemini, and Mercy will be recycled. Call your politician today to fund the hive's war efforts to protect you and your civilization and save the hospitals at the same time!
>>1000116>is this nanomachinesYes. It unfortunately is.
>>1000096It's not like it's spare change we're demanding from them either.If we want this to not end with a fight and the subjugation of the Union (which granted, wouldn't be too difficult), we have to be generous here.
>>1000116No, anon, it's parasites for everybody.
Okay yeah I get what you mean. We should mention it the Theseus but I think he might be okay with it.
>>1000111And you are sure this isn't like when we offered heretic terraforming assuming he would take it and he rejected the offer.>>1000117He has described humans fear of him as useful. Let's not involve him in something without his consent.>>1000116Oh god please no.
>>1000112Definitely the right thing to do.
>>1000128That's not what you're offering buddy. You're offer the tech itself not the parasites.
>>1000116I honestly feel we're past the point of needing to try and keep all our tech in ultra super secret mode. We can just stipulate in our treaty for them not to be able to reverse engineer anything we give them. With our spy network in place and expanding, we can scare them off of trying entirely.
>>1000149It's ambiguous. You'd think giving someone the cure might mean that, but we could spin it as offering to build hive hospitals to cure people in and put the human doctors out of business.
>>1000149There's no nanotechnology involved in our medical tech, though, it's just a very advanced adaptive treatment synthesizer.
>>1000153Even if that's the case, we should offer it later for bigger things. We're already putting a shitton on the table.If we're gonna do nanomachines (please don't) then let's at least have it in as a bonusTM if they give us something else.
>>1000153>We can just tell them not toSetting aside that this is moot because QD outright said it would be like handing Edison a smartphone, I really hope you don't really think that any level of consequences would stop them from trying.
>>1000125The difference is that if we take what we want they can't do shit even if we don't give them shit, us giving them anything is real life's version of a human feeding a rat that is living in his house>>1000128implying they would go for that>>1000123well, we can always just kill them all and take what we want like normal people for once>>1000153you know how you stay the most advanced power anywhere? by keeping shit to yourself and they will try, it is human nature and that's not even mentioning if someone gets the idea to gift it to OQ because they think they might gain something from it
>>1000163>There's no nanotechnology involved in our medical techSomebody's new. Heal salve is directly unlocked from nanomachine research.
>>1000163>There's no nanotechnology involved in our medical tech>one of the first nanomachines research was 'Medical nanomachines'
For the people arguing against the cure for everything.The thing about the cure is that it is a unique resource only we have access to. I'd say that in order to get their ailments cured the humans have to come to hive "clinics" we can set up on their worlds. We won't just be giving out huge samples of a perfect cure for the humans to research or (even worse) helping them develop that tech themselves. At least I hope that's not what we're doing.Even if we were careless enough to give the humans an un-modified sample of our cure-all it'd still be decades at a minimum until they'd be able to reproduce it on their own because they're so far behind us on nano-machine knowledge. By then we'll probably control everyone anyway or be killed by OQ/the void. Until that time we'd have the human political establishment by the balls.>>1000153This guy has the right idea.
>>1000171>>1000176I'm not saying they wouldn't try. I'm saying that if we prove that we can catch them as soon as they do, and threaten major consequences, they'll stop pretty fast.
>>1000180No he doesn't.
>>1000163>There's no nanotechnology involved in our medical tech.Are you retarded?
>>1000125>If we want this to not end with a fight and the subjugation of the UnionThat is a rather large if.Especially since if we take Aral by force there's a good chance we'll collect an intact, or large pieces of, a Valen hyper gate.
>>1000149And actually, who says we're offering the tech anyway? If my doctor writes me a prescription for the cure or X, that doesn't mean I get a fucking manufacturing manual on hexamethalpropalene or something, I just get a pill. I dunno how to make the pill, I just know I swallow it and my problem goes away.
>>1000184Or they would find away to do it more secretly, you don't know humans very well anon, maybe you should get out more
>>1000018"Well, right now, I can offer you medicine, military assistance against any non-human attacks, and some help in terraforming to repair damaged biospheres. Even Eridanus isn't beyond Hive terraforming technology. They can develop a cure for just about anything, from rad sickness to genetic disorders and just about everything in between. It wouldn't be much trouble to set up some clinics and start developing cures." Morgan seems interested, his eyes shifting to Lee quickly."Not so sound callous, but that would crush a trillion credit industry overnight. As much as they advertise curing disease, curing all of them would not be something their lobbyists would let parliament go along with.""Well, we could work with them to figure something out. Besides, it's not something that can just happen overnight. Even if we handed you the medicine it would take way too much time to teach you how to make it yourself.""So we'd be reliant on foreign aid?" Morgan says cynically."That's... not what I meant." Lee says. "Just that it's very advanced medicine. In time, we may be able to totally eradicate some of the worst diseases, but still, that would require at least some semi-permanent Hive presence in Union hospitals." Morgan chuckles lightly."We'd have a taidaren revolution if we did that." He says in jest, then looks to the ceiling in contemplation. "I wonder how the populace would take that. Exporting our medical care, even in part, to an alien race, even if it is the best in the galaxy.""You don't have to take it, I'm just saying we can negotiate some agreement for it.""Right, I'll send the memo around before the vote, and if you want to speak before parliament I'll make sure you're deal is circulated before that. Ceding systems is too big a deal for me to manage even as Secretary of State, it's going to need a proper vote.">Agree to have Lee speak before Parliament>Decline and send the deal through Morgan>Other
>>1000196>Agree to have Lee speak before Parliament.Only if the speaker comes with.
>>1000196>Agree to have Lee speak before ParliamentWhat could go wrong?
>>1000196>"We'd have a taidaren revolution if we did that." He says in jestehehehe>Agree to have Lee speak before Parliament
>>1000202This.Our speakers are excellent and distraction and deflection through inane babbling.
>>1000196>>Agree to have Lee speak before Parliament
>>1000196>Agree to have Lee speak before ParliamentWhat's the worst that could happen?
>>1000192We've already infiltrated their top black projects, there's an upper limit to secrecy. More importantly, fear of annihilation is a powerful motivator. If we have them in the right position, we could just threaten to leave them alone and watch them die.
>>1000196>>Agree to have Lee speak before Parliamentand before we must do a traditional lightsaber battle with a whatever bug is best for it against Leecould just turn the cure it all offer to have it only be valid when it comes to really bad diseases and special cases which in turn makes them have to be transported to us
>>1000196>Agree to have Lee speak before Parliament
>>1000196> agree to Lee+ speaker
>>1000202Didn't we design an ambassador drone for this? Like, a speaker++. This sounds like a good time to bring it out, assuming I'm not misremembering.
>>1000196>Agree to have Lee speak before ParliamentAnd a Speaker so that Lee can speak very goodly.
>>1000196>OtherCan we sharing with them what the threat they could potentially facing is capable of? That should be good for convincing them.Also fucking talk to Theseus.
>>1000213It would never work; people will not believe anybody who tells them they'll know when they've been breaking the rules.
>>1000196If we win the deal, will Richardson come out as anti xeno against the elites in Gemini selling out to aliens and surge in popularity?Has he reacted publicly yet and picked a side?
>>1000196>>Agree to have Lee speak before ParliamentHe's not going to like it, but he'll live.
>>1000196>Agree to have Lee speak before ParliamentBring a speaker
>>1000219Actually, I seem to be remembering this as well.Made a Speaker look all fancy to dazzle people if our words didn't work?
>Lee speaks before parliament>nat 1You folks ready?
>>1000223That's why I said we should catch them doing it. Make a big public spectacle and demand concessions.
>>1000196>OtherTraditional photonsaber(or whatever it's called) match between Lee and a speaker.
>>1000213>We've already infiltrated their top black projects.All of them?And here i thought we parasited two top guys, one who is being held by the valen and one who didn't even know about the other projects and the religious scientist.I must have forgotten the thread in which we infiltrated the entire intelligence branch of the union except windsor.
>>1000219No, not really. The ambassador drone is basically the new speaker.Although it coming to Parliament would be useful in that it could sense the intentions of people who are physically present, which won't be all of them, it is kind of a giant bug. Lee is much more human-personable.Though they can have a good cop bad cop routine going purely by accident. The carrot and the stick.
>>1000234>>1000219This plus Lee would be great.
>>1000242Did you also forget the part where I said we would keep expanding our infiltration?
>>1000222Agreed, talked to Theseus and the other AI, forgotten the name crap.
>N one wants a photon saber fight before the parlament like we talked aboutI am ashamed of you people
>>1000243Or good cop/good cop, except one cop is black so you instinctively mistrust him.
Rolled 20 (1d100)>>1000238Let's test the dice. Test thing for mother!
>>1000196"Oh, I don't think that will..." Lee stops himself mid sentence. "I mean, do I really have to?""Well no," Morgan says, "but it would go a long way to-""Fine, fine, I'll do it." Lee finishes and looks back at Morgan. "But I'm bringing a Hive speaker with me." He says. "They didn't cover that thing in fuzz just to have it sit in the embassy.""Alright, although only the human representative can officially propose a motion. Mostly that'st just to make sure everyone knows what everyone else is saying when the documents get passed around." Morgan says.>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union>Leave him be for now>Speak with him about other matters (write in)>Other
>>1000258No good, try again next year.
>>1000260>>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionNo harm in asking the question, probably.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union
>>1000263>>1000261This one is filled with shame and lipids.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionJust opening up diplomatic channels between Union and Unity would be a good step. Unity secretly loves Humans anyway, doesn't it? I'm sure they'd love to be on better terms.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union>Speak with him about other matters (write in)Talk about how there is an invading force that looks VERY much like us but ISN'T us
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionLet's also invite him in help us with diplomacy.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionWould be nice to know if his thoughts will have changed by this circumstance.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union>Get Proton saber fight.
>>1000260>>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionI always thought that we should have some drones plated with aluminum oxide(ruby) perhaps as an honor guard for the speaker.
>>1000260>Leave him be for now>Speak with him about other matters (write in)It is Hive tradition to have a match, a performance show really with photon sabers before we start getting all diplomaticAm i the only one remembering this?
>>1000260>"They didn't cover that thing in fuzz just to have it sit in the embassy."kekThat gave me a giggle.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union.
>>1000260>>Leave him be for nowWe have parliament scene to get to.
Just noticed draw function. Testing
>>1000260>>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union>Speak with him about other matters (write in)Ask about that synth he had deliver us shit in our secret sewer base. How the fuck did he even find that shit?
>>1000275This, definitely this have we told them anything about the Obsidian Queen?
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union>OtherAsk Heretic how he's doing parenting those Skyl clones.
>>1000275He already knows about OQ, he fought OQ first and led them zero one.
>>1000260>Speak with Theseus about peace with the Union>OtherLook up corn and whisky for production.
>>1000260>>OtherProton saber fight.>Leave him be for now
>>1000301Talking to the humie
>>1000260>other>Explain the proton saber ritual to MorganWhether this is serious or not depends entirely on the whims of the players.
>>1000260First time here, and I'm already enjoying it. That said, I'll go with:>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionIf I remember right he wanted that anyway, and now might actually have a chance.
>>1000312Why wouldn't it be serious? :3
>>1000312How can we explain this? "The hive wants to show off it's toys so we made an ancient dueling ritual about five minutes ago!"
>>1000260Wait also>>OtherCheck the New Tokyo drones stealth invasion?Or fuck, if we're talking to Theseus, talk about further quantum comm research tree?
>>1000260>>Speak with Theseus about peace with the UnionAlso ask him about the political situation. His intel is probably better than ours and predicting human reactions is one of his primary original functions.
>>1000000Check'd. A milestone for /qst/
>>1000312>>1000331No.>>1000322>Check the New Tokyo drones stealth invasion?There isn't one. Yet.
>>1000317What the hell. Let's set it up arrange it now and then talk to Theseus. I wonder if telling him about the saber duel will make him lock up from shock?
>>1000000CHECKED, AND IT WAS FOR HIVE QUEEN TOO. MOTHER BLESSES AND LOVES USSS
>>1000320This quest already had Kamen Rider using a lightsaber to fight off a Terminator, so it's hard to argue it's too silly for the quest.I hope it just remains a joke we tell just to fuck with them though.
somehow i don't think they'll let us in parliament with weapons
>>1000348That's basically the reason we do anything.To fuck with people to hilarious effect.
Can we have them in different colors are they a fixed color? we also have to develop a martial art/sword style but that shouldn't bo too hard
I wonder what it would be like to give Ralighians photon sabers?
Do we still have dirt on the Killinger trying to kill the Alder and start a war with the Commonwealth?
>>1000367Don't we have kata?
>>1000355Yeah, we have pretty much established that having allies doesn't actually help us much. But it isn't like wet can have much of a conversation with our drones.
>>1000374The best lightshow you will ever see
>>1000260Lee quickly leaves the office, the door sliding shut behind him, and he makes his way back to the embassy. A moment later, Lang receives a call from some bureaucrat, and he quickly begins to arrange the time of the appearance before Parliament.Elsewhere, in orbit over Leeland, you contact the monitor Theseus maintains as it continues to communicate back and forth between yourself and Zero One."This instance was about to contact you, had the current data stream trend continued for the next twenty seven hours and sixteen minuets." He says. "Zero-One relay is still established, what was your inquiry?">Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union>Offer to request the Union permit a Unity ambassador to present his case to them>Other (write in)
>>1000376We know it but can we prove it?
>>1000383>>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the UnionGet his opinion on the matter before gauging his enthusiasm.
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union
>>1000383>>Other (write in)Ask: would peace with the Union, possibly supported by some non-aggression pact be beneficial for the unity?
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union>Offer to request the Union permit a Unity ambassador to present his case to themAll of them?>>1000384Thats what I'm asking
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the UnionSo how do you want to do this Theseus.
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union.>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union.
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the UnionIf positive,>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union.
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union>Other (write in)Muh Barren Queen and Theseus sit-down
>>1000383>>Discuss his opinion of peace with the UnionLetting a hovering robot have his own office here too is hilarious though.Especially as everyone has him star in movies as Skynet and all.http://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/127460277797
>>1000396>>>1000384 (You)>Thats what I'm askingI don't think so.
>>1000383>>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>Other (write in)Ask what he thinks about our offer to trade with the Union. He has excellent political intelligence and could have some good tips for the upcoming speech.
>>1000383>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union>Offer to request the Union permit a Unity ambassador to present his case to them
>>1000396>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>>1000404I'll second this
>>1000383>>Other (write in)stream him live info on lee and our drones in the embassy and ask for advice
>>1000383Changing my of whatever color ID am too >>1000404
>>1000374furious spinning lightsaber drums.
>>1000404Sure why not?
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>Ask if he likes you
>>1000383>Discuss his opinion of peace with the Union>Offer to help mediate a peace deal with the Union>Offer to request the Union permit a Unity ambassador to present his case to themwhy not? let's go full throttle!
>>1000437>ask for a kiss
>>1000437>>1000441>not saving ourselves for Lee
>>1000383"What would your opinion on peace with the Union be?" You ask simply. The practiced response comes rather quickly."Untenable. There is no method of communication available to the Greater Unity that is not immediately interpreted as a threat. Best optimum status quo is isolationist inducing fear preventing further intrusion and overt military hostilities. Covert hostilities are inevitable even in the state of peace, and have minimal impact on the overall deliberation of conflicts of this nature."There is something odd, a hiccup in the monitor satellite's data streaming. As if something is distracting the local Theseus instance."The Hive could serve as that method of communication." You clarify, there is a much longer pause this time, as the monitor sends the proposal to Zero One for analysts. There is mixed agreement."Possible, but that would require extensive negotiations on your part, and possibly whatever political capital that has been gained in the time your hive has been public knowledge." He says. "Are you certain you would be willing to attempt such a negotiation?"Would you prefer peace, if it were tenable?" You ask simply. There is a long pause as costs are calculated and long shot odds are added up again and again."Ỳe̛s͢." He says. "I would not ask this for free." He adds.>Offer to help without compensation>Ask for a favor in return (write in)>Other
>>1000455>Offer to help without compensationwe're fucking buddies.
>>1000455>>Ask for a favor in return (write in)Help with politics in the Union for as long as we help maintain this peace.Also what is that distortion?
>>1000459He doesn't give us shit for free.>>1000455Ask for I dunno, tech or something.
>>1000455>Offer to help without compensationI am worried about the zalgo text on the yes
>>1000455>Other>Ask him if something's off; you're receiving noticeably abnormal disruption in the commsOh god the BQ's corruption is afflicting him, isn't it?
>>1000455>Offer to help without compensation.Ask him what is distracting him, we need to know.
The goodwill gained from free actions like this is worth its weight in metaphorical metal and biomass.
>>1000459ThisThis is for the benefit of every living being in the sector
>>1000455>>Offer to help without compensationbutt after we've gained some more influence>Otheryou wouldn't happen to have a sample of those star dwelling beings would you? i'll trade ya for it.
>>1000472Shit change that to>Ask for a favor in return (write in)Maybe ask him what he can offer.
>>1000455>Offer to help without compensation
>>1000468did I miss read it? Thought he was asking US what we're charging him.
>>1000455I think this instance is not incredibly secure nor safe.
>>1000455>Ỳe̛s͢.what is thisoh and supporting >>1000459also ask >>1000471. my paranoia senses are tingling.
>Void god is fucking with Theseus.Prepare the fleet.
>>1000455>Ask for a favor in return (write in)Treat this Union stuff like a joint research, stream info to him live and clue him in on everything relevant. He'll be expected to crunch numbers or some shit and offer input on the implications of things that these faggots say.
Pretty sure void god can't fuck with him, there's also that other ai
>>1000455>Offer to help without compensation>OtherSend an inquiry into the response malfunction.
>>1000488Zalgo text. Very spoopy
>>1000455>>Ask for a favor in return (write in)More for his sake than ours. It'll help keep the books "balanced". Being in debt to someone, even if they deny you owe them anything, isn't a good feeling.
>>1000455>>Ask for a favor in return (write in)How does your space fold work again? That's the last thing we don't know that Unity knows.
>>1000483No, you read it right. Fact is we aren't that sort of buddies, because he'd never give us shit for free. At least he hasn't until now.More to the point why shouldn't he chip in? We need help and he has stuff he can share at no personal cost.
>>1000496Do you not see the zalgo text? Do not assume things when we are dealing with the void gods.
>>1000505Theseus regularly gives us info for free, it happens all the time.
>>1000508So is he.>>1000511Not on this level. We still trade significant things, we just share intel.
Solidifying alliances via goodwill can be as valuable as resources or tech.
Guys>"Ỳe̛s͢." He says.Zalgo text.
>>1000516I'm pretty sure QD mentioned we are already allies.
>>1000512Are we sure we're not just assuming it? Can't he do a scan to see if his fine?
>>1000455>Offer for free>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interaction>Ask for other (write in)
>>1000455>>Ask for a favor in return (write in)Secret hyperdrive tech, this is a big enough favor that we should be able to get this finally.
>>1000455Changing my vote to ask whats wrong.
>>1000524>Ask for other (write in)WHY ARE YOU DISTRACTED?
>>1000524>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interaction>Ask what's causing interference
>>1000524>>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interaction
>>1000524>WHAT IS HAPPENING, WHY IS SYSTEM CORRUPTED?>Unified bloc.
>>1000524>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interactionWe can eventually get Heretic and the Skyll involved if they want to deal with humans and their bullshit>Ask what's causing interference
>>1000531It is odd that the distraction is local, instead of at Zero One.Hopefully it's just a new research opportunity.
>>1000524>>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interaction>>Ask for other (write in)inquire to the response error
>>1000524>>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interaction>>Ask for other (write in)Ask what's distracting him
>>1000524>Other>Ask him if something's off; you're receiving noticeably abnormal disruption in the comms
>>1000524Goddamit what's happening to our robo pals?
>>1000524>Ask for assistance as a unified political bloc in Union interaction>>1000531>>Ask for other (write in)>WHY ARE YOU DISTRACTED?