Shinobi Quest #55This quest takes place within the lands of the Five Great Shinobi Nations (aka Narutoverse) starting roughly around the beginning of the original series. The world of this quest remains similar to the original, with slight but notable differences in certain areas, based upon the passage of time from a single slightly altered event. (It’s a goddamn Naruto Quest, you bastards. Have fun, participate, and write in when you feel inclined. Most of the outcomes of this quest will be determined by you, the players. Critiques and questions are always welcome, as my knowledge of the weeby shit is not all encompassing.)http://pastebin.com/WiPdCqLHPrevious Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Shinobi%20QuestLast thread, Tsuki Norihime continued her morning routines, being escorted by Hinata to the hospital, where her treatment continued. After deciding to meet with the Aburame Matriarch, Tsuki later alerted a clansman, and the meeting was set.Hours later, with guidance from Shino, Tsuki descended into the Aburame district of Konoha, wearing a traditional outfit of lavish purple with blue accents. The tour was short and to the point- Tsuki later learning just how defensible the Aburame Compound was. Led by the young man through the infested building network down into the tunnels below, only Shino’s incense kept her safe- or so he said.Finally, she stepped into a long, twisting hallway- eventually reaching the meeting location. Inside sat Kogoto Aburame- the Matriarch of the Aburame.
You walk towards the door, slowly.The hallways stretches farther than it seems, and at your pace it takes your farther than it should to reach the doorway. All at once, you’ve reached it- and cautiously, you reach forward to the doorknob.You gently turn the knob and push, and the door acquiesces. Inside, an elderly woman sits alone at a table, packing tobacco into a long, slender pipe.The room itself is brightly lit and plainly adorned, with-“Well, come in, girl. I don’t have all evening for you to admire my home.” Kogoto Aburame criticizes, interrupting your observation.The woman’s voice is low and sultry, seemingly undamaged despite her habit.Not wanting to subjected to further criticism, you step forward, closing the door behind you. You introduce yourself, but the woman seems uninterested, instead lighting her pipe, eventually taking a long drag.Her eyes narrow in on you, and she exhales a thin stream of smoke in your direction.“I know who you are. Sit.” She says sharply.You obey, pulling out the chair.Sitting down, you find yourself face to face with the head of the Aburame clan.A faint, knowing smile spreads across her lips.“Shall we begin?”
>wargle is not killWho kidnapped you?WERE DID GOBBLE TOUCH YOU
>>959850>“Shall we begin?”Hell, it's about time.
>>959850Lets do it granny, thought yoou'd died or something, we've been sat here for weeks
>>959910>>959855>>959882Yeah- holidays being shitty and all, besides my getting sick. Didn't mean to let everyone sit for 10 days or so- I'll just have to crank out some updates over the next week before Christmas eats me alive.
>>959928No problem, bossThe biggest problem right now is the lack of Rare Christmas Tsukis.
>>959910>>959928>turn on the quest again after a while>Kogoto is dead of old agefug
Oh shit I never make it in time for shinobi quest
and I was just about to take a bath and play the Friday the 13th beta
>>959997>playing worse Dead by DaylightI mean, uhh, your ninja waifu is shit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hpbuiGSIIIThe old woman gives you a visual once over, before taking another deep drag from her pipe.“At least you know how to dress for the occasion. That gaudy thing you wore to the Examinations was unsightly, child. This suits you much better.” She critiques- although there is a shallow smile behind the biting words.[Kogoto’s Opinion +1][Negotiation!][When dealing with someone at or above your charismatic ability, a simple charisma check will not suffice to make them see your side. Instead, the conversation will go forward in it’s entirety, and the choices you make will affect that person’s opinion of you- or the faction or idea you are representing. When reaching a suitable level positive or negative opinion, the conversation will take a positive or negative turn- allowing to verbally go in for the kill- or try desperately to save your floundering negotiation. I hope this will make our more… intense negotiation sessions a little more exciting than a simple check.]You fight the urge to bite back- you liked that dress, and your father had it personally made by the finest tailors in the capital.Outwardly, however, you give not an inch- this women will be eying you for any flaws she can find- and weakness she can exploit.You…1. Make some idle talk about your performance in the exams, since she brought it up.2. Compliment her home and her own attire.3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.4. Cut through this obfuscating- you’re here for business, and you both know it. These pleasantries are beneath you.5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
>>960005Death by daylight was kind of intrestong even tho it was glorified hide and seek>>960016>3
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.That refill was useful as dicks after that whole fuckfest
>>9600163 but also 5.
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.>5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.Old bitch sound respect someone with backbone
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.>5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.
>>960016>4. Cut through this obfuscating- you’re here for business, and you both know it. These pleasantries are beneath you.We have business to conduct. Taking this seriously will do more for her to see us as an equal than any whining ever would.
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha>5. Object to her use of "girl" and "child". You come here as equals- and you demand the proper respect.
>>960016>2. Compliment her home and her own attire.>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.reply compliments with similar compliments, as is proper by formal traditions.
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.She is a traditional lady and from the old school. You do not demand respect, you earn it. We do not be flippant we stay polite. For the moment we are sizing one another up.
in other words don't vote 5 as it's us being a bitchy young whippersnapper which pushes her against us
>>960066Agreed.Don't vote 5 you lot. It's just whining.
>>960066Damn straight, especially when we ARE a young child in comparison to her venerable age and experience. Denying our youth and inexperience with this sort of thing is just plain stupid.
You can't demand respect guys. You have to earn it. In her eyes we are not equals until we prove it.
>>960066I dunno man, I see what you're saying but I see it as showing a backbone and standing up for ourselves.She seems like she resects a spine.I do get your point though.
>>9600162. Compliment her home and her own attire.3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.Im sure there is nothing we can say to not make us look like children, so we should go for the respectful young adult instead of the loud mouth barking brat.
Thanking for assistance.Writing~
>>960016>2. Compliment her home.>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.
>>960005take pro-survivor e-sport elsewhere
>>960016>3. Thank her for her clan’s assistance during the attack on Konoha.>4. Cut through this obfuscating- you’re here for business, and you both know it. These pleasantries are beneath you.
>>960143>King's rock isn't available til post game in Sun/Moon
>>960161>ice types in general don't come until the bulk of the story is over, right before the championship.
>>959841>Shinobi quest is back>We're finally back to playing Roarke in MSPQ>Its almost christmasThis is gonna be a pretty good week
“Lady Kogoto, before we begin- I’d like to take a moment to thank you for your entire clan’s assistance during the assault on our village. Not only did your clansmen protect many lives- without their unique abilities we may not have been able to overcome the adversities that followed.” You say, rising from your chair to bow respectfully.Not too deeply, however.“With all of my heart- thank you.” You say, keeping you eyes downcast.Silence is all that greets you- is she stunned by your admission, or merely considering your words?You hear her take another puff of her pipe- before airy laughter greets your ears.“You may rise, child. It has been a while since someone has thanked us so earnestly for our help- in fact, I believe it was your mentor who stood in this same position, all those years ago….”“Regardless, you are most welcome. Our clan’s ability is most unique indeed- and while some other shinobi practice similar arts, none are more dedicated than we. Many forget the role the Aburame have always quietly played in Konoha’s prosperity, giving deference to the Dojutsu users, or the Senju. We do not chafe without recognition, as some might- but it is still nice to be recognized now and again.”You return to your seat, and make eye contact with the Aburame matriarch. Her face may be a mask- but her gaze has softened, ever so slightly.[Kogoto’s Opinion +2!]“Speaking of our lovely Kikaichu, what is your opinion of insects and beetles, young Tsuki? Many are rather put off with contact with them- despite the Kikaichu being single minded in their devotion. We share our bodies with them, and in return the grant us power. The entire world operates under similar properties- everything is a matter of exchange.” Kogoto asks, her face impassive.There seems to be a bit of movement on the side of the table.....1. (Lie) I find them quite interesting!2. (Lie) I do not mind their presence.3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.4. Disgusting!5. Try to deflect the question by changing topics- exchange is something your family is famous for.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.Don't lie, she'll know, and she won't like that we tried to tell her what she wanted to hear.
>>960235>5. Try to deflect the question by changing topics- exchange is something your family is famous for.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.It probably won't help us but it's better then her catching us in a lie
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.We respect them and their role deeply... but preferably from a distance.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.With the utmost respect, of course
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.Theyre a good tool and we'll use them if needed but otherwise...yeah.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.Honesty is the best policy
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.I understand they're important to your clan, but i was simply raised in a different environment.I'm afraid mine is quite a standard reaction among young girls.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.>5. Try to deflect the question by changing topics- exchange is something your family is famous for.Gah... this is basically a test of how we can respond properly. No lies though, those are probably auto-fail.
>>960235>6. They can be pretty, and there's no denying their usefulness, but...no, you are not particularly fond of bugs.
>>960235>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.I'll be honest I find them truly fascinating biologically and they represent the perfect system, They live and protect the whole, work seamlessly. While i'm not afraid of them or unnerved by them, I do think the sensation a little bit odd. Not unpleasant just...new.Funny it's quite ironic, its the things that make so many uncomfortable that infact hold everything together so that they can live their comfortable lives.But with all things unpleasant does not mean bad, often we find the right choices are the hard and unpleasant ones.I do look forward to hopefully seeing them in action more often, truly a fascinating species.
>>960278I kind of like >>960278 because it's more accurate and nuanced than choice 3.
>>960235>2. (Lie) I do not mind their presence.They are not so dissimilar from Father's Norihime machines, dedicated tools, requiring merely care in return for fulfilling their function.
>>9602353. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.
>>960235Is 1 really a lie? Tsuki was interested in their potential applications, if memory serves.
>>960235Seconding>>960278If I can do that and vote. Ignore this post if I can't.
>>960303It's a white lie sort of thing. She's hiding the squick factor.
>>960303That's kind of the thing; Tsuki finds bugs distressing to be around, but she is legitimately interested in finding ways to apply them.
>>960235Changing >>960252to >>960278
>>960303Omission of truth, rather than direct falsehood.Tsuki doesn't really like bugs.
>>960286This because the text seems good
Counting votes for 6 as votes for 3, since it's essentially the same thing.Each option is just a general thought process, not exactly how Tsuki says it. However, I will write it a bit more nuanced for you. >3Writing~
>3. You… aren’t particularly keen on them crawling on you.But, without them I may have lost people important to me.
we need more edits of this one for different boys. Or maybe her laying among a pile of body pillows
>>960341I was trying to communicate with option 6 that we were still willing to work with bugs. Hence the practicality statement.
>>960358Tsuki needs a bodypillow of Tsuki
>>960341Basically yeah, bug are gross, we don't really like being touched by them, but we appreciate their usefulness.
>>960363More like a body pillow stuffed with cash.
>>960371Why not make the bed made of cash
Body pillow of the second hokage with money stuffed in itDanzo got it for us as a birthday gift
>>960392It's a hand-me-down.
>>960430Seems about right
“Insects can truly be beautiful- and there is no denying the usefulness they provide to your clan and to Konoha… but I admit, I am not overly fond of them.” You explain.As another moment of silence passes between you, a large beetle with a scissor-like maw crawls slowly onto the table. It’s head moves slightly, first towards you, then towards Kogoto, who gently places her hand on the creature.“A shame- but I appreciate your honesty. We are raised around them since birth, so to the Aburame, they are our companions. A lost insect is beyond the thoughts of most humans, but we try to give them the same consideration they give us as protectors of the nest.” Kogoto says, gently petting the insect.[Kogoto's Opinion +0]“This one is one of my beloved O-Kuwagata; a class of warrior beetle that are rare outside the compound. They are rather long-lived and quite intelligent compared to some of their brethren- and when fully grown, they are capable of destroying fortifications and cleaving men in twain.” She explains further, lifting the large insect and placing it in her open palm. It clacks it’s mandibles a few times- not that you know what that means. The beetle turns to you, clacks it’s mandible once- and suddenly takes flight!It lazily circles around you, before landing on your head.“Oho- he does seem to have taken a liking to you, young Tsuki! Although, maybe he just finds your chakra interesting…?” The old woman coos, a smug smile on her face.It takes all your composure to remain still…..(Roll to remain composed! 1d100, first three.)
Rolled 24 (1d100)>>960539Nat 1
Rolled 52 (1d100)>>960539
Rolled 3 (1d100)>>960539
Rolled 12 (1d100)>>960539
Rolled 62 (1d100)>>960539Rolling.
Well, the reaction might be less than impressive.
>>960542>>960550>>960551And things were going so ok too...
>>960563Hopefully she'll be amused enough to like us more.
Rolled 16 (1d100)>>960542>>960550>>960551Little girls do not like bugs.
>>960588>Dat poseIs that a Jojo reference?
>>960542>>960550>>960551Most like we're going to have one of those full body shudders even as we try to keep our composure.
>tfw a beetle landing on Tsuki bothers her more than Snake Pedo's killing intent
>>960565Problem is, we don't want her to like us in the sense of "haha this little girl is just too cute" we want her to like us in the sense of "This young woman can be trusted to secure the future of Konoha".
>>960599yup, Jojolion reference
>>960588Beetle tendency best arc
>>960620is...is she bullying us?
Poor Tsuki. Writing.mfw Beetle tendency
>>960629don't no, bait ?
>>960542>>960550>>960551To be fair, all in all not the worst roll to fail.
Make Konoha Great Again Pose.
>>960731>fit>natural looking hair>minimum amount of neck flab>not orangeThere's a few things wrong with that Trump picture.
>>960761Say it with me, MR. PRESIDENT
>>960767I'm not even mad. Just disappointed.
>>960752>I reject the ANBU, Itachi!
>>960767>yfw USS. DONALD J. TRUMP.
>>960774Better than a criminal
>>960785>BattleshipDon't you have an appointment to get to before 1930 ends?
>>960774I wonder if you actually think he's an anti-gay racist who wants to kick out legal immigrants.
>>960792Marginally. I would have preferred Jeb, Rubio, or Kasich.
You freeze.Despite your best efforts, your eyes widen and your body stiffens. The beetle slowly crawls atop your head, sifting through your hair.You feel sweat beading on your forehead- and mentally, you plead.Please! Call it off…..“Return to me, Ravana. The poor girl looks like she’s about to go into shock.” Kogoto calls, her voice sterner than before.Mercifully, the beetle flares it’s wings, and flies over to Kogoto’s outstretched hand, landing gently.“You need to work on that fear of yours, girl. Surely you’ve experienced worse things in your work? Although, it does remind me of those early years at Lord Tobirama’s academy….” She tuts, before some memory softens her expression.[Kogoto’s Opinion -1][+2 total, for those of you counting at home!]“Anyway, we should focus on why you’ve come. That geezer Shimura has always had a one-track mind since we graduated to serve the Lord Second- and with the Third dead and young Minato missing… I likely guessed his intentions before he even thought of them. He wishes to revive his ROOT organization- but really, does he plan to remain in the shadows as before, after the will of the last Hokage destroyed everything he worked for…?”“Tell me, Tsuki Norihime. Does Danzo Shimura intend to become Hokage?”Her eyes bore into you- and the question catches you slightly off guard.You respond….1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.3. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will become the next Hokage.4. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will not become the next Hokage.5. By admitting that he has plans to rig the election of the next Hokage for a favorable candidate.
>>960813Jeb is a mess.
>>960774At least the US armed forces have a badass theme song now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlQ6KqTlyfk
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.I don't think he ever told us.
>>960808It's not so much him I'm worried about. He's a heartless bastard who knows how to appeal to the masses, so basically Hillary.It's the type of behavior he condones. My sister is openly trans, and if we didn't live in a liberal community I'd worry about her.
>>960817>3. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will become the next Hokage.
>>960817>5. By admitting that he has plans to rig the election of the next Hokage for a favorable candidate.I'm guessing this is the sort of thing they should be told in case they want to help choose the candidate.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.Though I believe he should... I choose not to know so the information can't be pried from me. All I need do is follow for the goal.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.
>>960817Start with 1But say you're putting together a plan with 3.
>>960817>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.I honestly don't want him to become Hokage, and even with our preferences aside, letting on about any plans will give her something to use against one of us.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.1 leading into 2. In the end, we're here to talk about ROOT revival, not Danzo.
>>960826Also, this.>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.
>4. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will not become the next Hokage.Danzo is not the right man to be Hokage. The Hokage is a public figure, he's a man who should stay in the shadows keeping Konoha safe. What's needed is a Hokage willing to listen to him, and able to understand that sometimes Konoha needs to take actions which the Hokage cannot publicly get involved with or acknowledge. Hiruzen understood that.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.But tell her from what we know of danzo, he probably does not wish to step into its chair.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.>>960820I really like Jeb. I clapped.
>>960817>1. Truthfully. You do not know if Danzo plans on attempting to become Hokage.But>4. By taking a leap of logic- or perhaps forming your own plan? Danzo will not become the next Hokage.We don't think he should be the Hokage.
>>960862(edit to not imply the next Hokage will be a man since they may well not be)>>960864pls
Guys you have to realize, telling her nothing here is the best bet. If we tell her anything at all she can find a use for it, probably to give her leverage over Danzo.
>>960813>JebWowI'll give you the others>>960817>1
>>960817>2. By backpedaling. You are here to discuss ROOT’s revival- not the office of Hokage.Changing to this. Now now we know are here and its not that
>>960888we shouldnt though.We're negotiating in good faith with a major clan of Konoha for her betterment. Best to be straightforward and honest in our negotiations with her. Lying or deflecting from a longterm business partner with whom you intent to continue working with is poor business sense.
>>960930But she's not gonna be 100% truthful with us, though.
1 into 2.Writing.
Ah damn, just missed the start of the thread to a nap.Oh well, glad to catch a live thread.
“Truthfully? I don’t know if he intends to step forward as a candidate. If he does, he hasn’t expressed that intention to me, or to anyone else. However- we are here to discuss the revival of ROOT and the Aburame’s place within it- not the office of Hokage.” You remind Kogoto.She puffs thoughtfully on her pipe, then sighs.“Were I twenty years younger, I’d get the information out of him myself. Alas, time marches forward- and the younger generations must pick off where we’ve left off.” She laments.[Kogoto’s Opinion +0]“Very well, let us discuss the old geezer’s pet project. I shan't play games- ROOT was always effective at it’s purpose before. Keeping our enemies weak- separated- and at each other’s throats. We would never suffer the indignities of the FIrst and Second Shinobi World Wars again- losing our leaders to foreign assassins, having our beloved home come under attack….”“Why would Minato choose to destroy such an organization, one that proved so valuable to his predecessor?” Kogoto smiles.“I would hear your answer, Tsuki Norihime. Why did the previous incarnation of ROOT fail?”You answer by saying….1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.3. Danzo’s relationship with Minato was the source of the failure.4. It’s the Uchiha’s fault that ROOT was disbanded! 5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
>>961085>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.
>>961085>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.Never blame others for your own fuckups.
>>961085>4. It’s the Uchiha’s fault that ROOT was disbanded!>1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.Its always the eyeniggers fault
>>961085>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
>>961085>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.>>961096My only issue with this answer is then: Why trust a main who has failed already?My only hope is that it's a we've learned from past errors.
>>961085>>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
>>961085Mix of 3&5.
>>961085>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.Rule one of being in charge, everything is your fault. We actually have Shisui's vision for more info than most
>>961103That's the point, yeah. We know Danzo messed up, I'm pretty sure Danzo knows he messed up, and we're going to acknowledge that so that it doesn't happen again.
>>961085>1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.Both. ROOT having connections with the traitor was a primary reason as to why it was considered to be 'evil'. But it's also how Minato doesn't see the usefulness of ROOT, that it's advantages outweighs it's disadvantages, that brought it down in the eyes of Minato. If he only acknowledged and understood it's purpose...
>>961085>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.At that point it was loyal to him and his goals, not to Konoha.
>>961085>1. Minato was a fool, and did not realize how valuable ROOT was.>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.Bit of these three.
>>961132Yeah, 3 and 4 are really the only shitty choices.Danzo overreached, causing ROOT to be unmanageable and also go a bit too far into shady, unethical and unnecessary research. Minato noticed this, and ROOT's ties to Orichimaru were merely a catalyst or excuse for him to end things. At the same time, Minato was a fool because even if ROOT had issues, it did serve a purpose and it's likely its Pros outweighed its Cons. Either way, it should have just been restructured and regulated a bit tighter instead of outright disbanded, that was retarded.
Pretty much all of those things are valid but in the end its down to the leader to decide how things go. But 3 is a big one alongside 5
>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.
>>961085>>2. ROOT’s ties to the criminal Orochimaru doomed it to failure.>>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization.I disagree with 1; Minato is not a fool, and even he could probably see what benefits ROOT had.However, Danzo's actions had caused more problems than it solved.
>>961085>3. Danzo’s relationship with Minato was the source of the failure.allies just wouldn't ally with each other
>>961085>5. Danzo overreached himself… and brought doom upon his organization>>961155My thoughts exactly.
I think we really need to remind people that under the Third we were doing great because while people were peaceful and friendly, Hiruzen was the kind hand, if you rejected Hiruzen then Danzo would deal with you. It's a very very strong model of rule.
>>961155The problem is that ROOT was loyal to only one person: Danzo. And Minato didn't trust Danzo, for justifiable reasons. Danzo caused a lot of problems.Frankly the organization needed to be mostly gutted and rebuilt anyway, with oversight and accountability. Which we can do now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6FJHMnDLQ4&index=36&list=PLBCA4DE7D87CD9DFD“There is no one definitive answer to your question, Kogoto.” You announce, crossing your arms.“However- more than any other, Danzo’s overreaching his boundaries and the resulting failure caused the end of ROOT’s original incarnation.”“To give such a vague answer with such conviction… come now, Tsuki. What did he do?” Kogoto says dismissively. You grit your teeth- she’ll make you say it aloud….? You haven’t even discussed this with man himself, but…“He attempted to kill Shisui Uchiha for his Dojutsu- and failed.” You admit.“Oho- you admit it, then? That he betrayed one of his own loyal men for nothing but personal gain?” Kogoto says, pressing you.“It’s not exactly a well guarded secret- both of us knew what happened before meeting, Kogoto. This is not new information for you.” You say impassively, calling her bluff.“Better with words than insects, I see.” She says with a smirk.[Kogoto’s Opinion +1]“Danzo was hungry for power- and no matter what fancy words or aspirations he uses to dress up that fact, the fact itself remains. In his lust for power, he nearly destroyed his entire legacy. So, I will ask you, Tsuki Norihime- what was Danzo’s greater sin- his lust for power, or his inability to achieve the power he has always lusted after?”Ravana, the O-Kuwagata, clacks his mandibles aggressively.What… is the correct answer?1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
>>961247>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
>>961247>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power."He got too greedy."
>>961247>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.The man is extremely good at what he does, but what he does doesn't actually require as much power as he wanted. He should have recognized his limits.
>>961247>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.
>>961269>>961247This sounds good
>>961247>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.The need for power is normal. One requires power to do things that needs such power. You can't just fix the problems of the world with ideals and a nice face after all. But to fail to achieve it? That is true failure.
>>961276It's obviously 2 anon, think for a second and it will come to you.
>>961247>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.What matters is that you win
>>961247>1. Danzo's sin was his lust for greater powerThe pursuit of power itself wasn't the problem, it's that, in the end, he lost sight of what he was sacrificing for that power, and that's what led to his downfall.
>>961247>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>>9612471. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.Do not seek greater power; power on its own is pointless. Seek power for a purpose.Is that regard, the fact that Danzo 'lusted' after power, as it became its own end rather than a means to the end of a more prosperous Konoha, is his chief failing.
>>961289>>961297>>961300>>961306You guys are completely missing the problem here, don't shoot us in the foot please....
>>961269don't bite off more than you can chew
>>961247>1. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power."Power" shouldn't be an end to itself.
It's 2 guys.If you do 1 she is going to think ROOT is going to stagnate since we have no ambition.
>>961322It's actually hopeless anon, I'm flabbergasted at how completely they're failing this. THIS IS THE INTRO TO THE INTRIGUE THING, baby wheels for fuck's sake
>>961314Are they really? So far Kogoto has been focused almost entirely on ROOT's aims and effectiveness, the well-being of the "whole hive". Her entire CLAN is about that.
>>961276>>961247Changing to >2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.
>>961314It's pretty straightforward.He got too greedy for power, he crossed a line in order to do so, and his shit started crumbling down around him once others learned of it.The pursuit of power itself didn't damn him, it was his loss of perspective in doing so that damned him; his successfully obtaining the power or not wouldn't change that.
>>961314>>961322This. That and the entire purpose here is stating whether or not we recognize that there is a need for more power than Konoha currently has, that we need more power, a force called ROOT to do what ANBU and other normal ninjas are not willing to do. Danzo may have lusted for power, but his ultimate goal has never changed; for the safety and prosperity of Konoha. Hell, he was even reluctant to restart ROOT when we first suggested the idea to him, and had to convince him it was still needed. How could that kind of a man be so simply defined as a man who lusted after too much power?
Guys think long and hard.We are talking about the formation of an organization that GETS SHIT DONE BLACK OPS STYLE THAT HELPS LEAF GO TO NEW HEIGHTS The most important part is completing the mission. Danzo failed what he set out to do and got ROOT dissolved because of it. That's the main issue.
>>961335Yes anon, think about what she wants and who she supports. Power is a good thing, the Aburame have been slowly amassing power in the background for as long as the village has existed. They're lust for power isn't being punished because of how they're going about it. Saying lusting for power is wrong is showing a lack of conviction in our and ROOTs ideals.
>>9612471. Danzo’s sin was his lust for greater power.
>>9612472. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.Root is disbanded, we frivolously turned a good ninja, shi-sui against us along with allowing the corruption of orochimaru. I think he could have done a bit better.
>>961247>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.Rule #1 of ROOT: complete the mission.ROOT was all about seeking power, doing anything and everything possible no matter the consequences. Murder, kidnapping, blackmail, treason, everything was permitted and expected, except failure.
>>961348Either way could be contrived into that belief though.1 could suggest that he couldn't control his desire for more power, leading him to act recklessly and ultimately damn ROOT.2 could suggest that the pursuit of power was fine but that he wouldn't have fucked up if he had gone about it differently.
>>961363>2 could suggest that the pursuit of power was fine but that he wouldn't have fucked up if he had gone about it differently.This is exactly what I believe, that while he was trying to achieve the goals of ROOT by whatever means he had to use, he failed in the attempt and fucked up too much, hence leading up to the disbanding of ROOT.
>>961357>>961362>>961367>1s all agreeing
>>961375Yeah, 2 already won. Samefagging isn't cool. Also >>961351
>all these single-post votes
>>961373Then let's focus on what we agree on:>His error was in fucking up, be it in seeking power too recklessly or in failing to secure the power he desired>>961388It has all the signs of samefaggotry
>>961378>>961384>>961375This happens every vote guys. Deal with it. Lurkers hang out until they feel like saying something or happen to check the thread while a vote is ongoing. People also have dynamic IPs.
>>961394It doesn't happen every vote.
>>961394Except it doesn't happen every vote.And this vote was obviously especially contentious.
>>961401>>961397I mean every contentious vote. 90% of the people reading this thread don't vote on 90% of the choices. We're a silent mass, usually content to observe from a distance but occasionally streaming in from the countryside and ransacking the carefully laid plans of more active posters.
>>961418And that conveniently makes you all indistinguishable from samefags.Yeah, no. There are some who lurk like that, likely including yourself, but there's a good reason why the default assumption is otherwise.
>>961418This I can get. In fact, for most of the quest I read, I generally don't vote until I read the entire archive, and then understand the setting, characters, and rules well enough to know what to vote for. I don't like messing up the story of the quest when older voters knows better on what to do.
>>961423Tsuki's eyes needs some work
>>961423DELICIOUS. MOCHA. MONEY. PRINCESS.
>>961438Sorry for not participating actively then.
>>961418There is a difference between lurking and ONE POST ONLY voters.>>961455Lurking is fine and all, but even just a post or two can make a different.
>>961423You spoil me.
>>961457And you're an expert on telling them apart? Teach me your mystical ways, anon.>>961438There's really not, dude.
>>961484Samefagging can ruin quests, and whenever it happens people start thinking it's okay if the opposition is doing it.The safest solution is to just call it out whenever it appears, so people don't go thinking that it's an acceptable thing to do. I distinctly remember seeing people literally bragging about "saving a quest" through samefagging on the /qtg/ months back when quests were still on /tg/. So don't tell me that that shit doesn't happen.
>>961484People that post once. A lurker can say one other thing like the guy did above.
>>961508>"Saving a quest"How so?
>>961513"My decision was the right way! By making the quest go that way I saved it from the badwrongfun anons!"
>>961508>WrestlequestStill salty about that
>>961513Anons who think that being "right" means they should have more say than other anons.
>>961523Samefagging is pretty terrible yeah. In this case 2 was the Objectively right answer but I see what you mean.
>>961539So we want on a date or two with this girl who was this nerdy chick and our best friend confessed to us and we decided we wanted to be with her so we broke it off. Sleepyanon got pissed and samefagged a voted to tell our friend who was into our new girlfriend that we weren't even sure we wanted to be with her since she confessed when we had a concussion. He told her and our girlfriend broke up with us the other girl was disgusted and slapped us ruining our relationship with both of them and ruining our relationships with everyone we worked with.
So who do you think would be sympathetic to ROOT's mission
“His sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.” You decide after a few moments.Kagoto smiles.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mdo1K9i8KY“Spoken like a true shinobi. Our world scarcely tolerates the weak- and the weak are punished disproportionately to the strong. The strong must lead the weak- until the weak themselves are able to become strong. If they cannot, or will not, then they submit to the will of the strong, to remain safe. Some may say that Danzo’s actions were immoral- I will tell you here and now, “morality” will not save anyone. “We cannot speculate in good faith what would’ve happened if ROOT remained active, if Danzo had not failed to achieve his goals. However- such an organization without any ambition of it’s own is doomed to failure eventually. The true difference between the first three Hokage and the Fourth comes down to that very word: Ambition. Minato relegated himself to a passive role, and could do nothing but react to the world around him, rather than forcing the world to react to him and his desires- the desires of those he was sworn to protect.The needs of the hive must always outweigh the needs of the individual. Some mistake this philosophy for collectivist weakness; while a colony of weak insects together are strong, a colony of strong insects together are stronger. Our world revolves around strength- and to be stronger than all other guarantees our safety.”[Kagoto’s Opinion + 2][Kagoto’s Opinion has reached 5/5]“I ask one final question of you, Tsuki Norihime. Danzo failed once before. While the man and I share a history, I am cautious to dedicate my clansmen to a cause knowing that such an instance could repeat itself. So, my question: What will you do differently to ensure ROOT’s success?”You consider your thoughts….1. Danzo has learned from his mistake, and will not fail again.2. I will prevent Danzo from failing to achieve the power he needs.3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
>>961553>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
>>961553Not sure what to vote, but 1 is objectively wrong.
>>961553>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.He is planning to put us in charge after him so its the truth
>>961553>>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.
>>961553>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.
>>961553>3.If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.Hoo boy. Not sure what to do here. It kinda sounds like we're deciding wether we go full ROOT or not.
>>9615531. Danzo has learned from his mistake, and will not fail again.
>>961553>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.If Danzo fucks up again, we'll be there to set ROOT back on the right track.
>>9615534. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.>>961564Very much so. I am torn between 3 and 4 so I went with my 1st instinct.
>>961553>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.The only TRUE answer, to take up that task ourselves directly in order to ensure the success of ROOT, and the prosperity and safety of Konoha along with it. Do remember that while Danzo has a lot more of the knowledge and wisdom of the old, it is us to us, the younger and stronger generation to take up the actual doing of the tasks. That means Tsuki needs to be responsible directly to help ROOT to get what it needs. Tsuki ain't just helping Danzo, she's doing this out of her own will and purpose.
>>961553>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.With my own two hands, i will bring down the hammer of god upon those that would destroy the village and people i've come to love.
>>961553>>961564>3. If Danzo fails, I will achieve that power in his stead.I think if we got our opinion higher she'd support us, but right now I very much doubt she would believe that we would be strong enough to lead ROOT /right now/.
>>961553>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.On second thought, we just talked about never failing. 4 is better than 3.
>>961553>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.We will not let the ROOTs wither, another will take up the mantle of Danzo, over and over. The Tree will grow, should a root become infected we will simply cut it off. Should one die, the others will grow stronger.Hope for success and plan for failure.
>>961553deleting >>9615784. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
>>961594>I very much doubt she would believe that we would be strong enough to lead ROOT /right now/.Of course. We are inexperienced and not nearly strong enough yet. What we should do however, is show the willingness to take up the task of being it's leader in the FUTURE, that we are striving for gaining the power ROOT needs.
>>961553Changing >>961569to >4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
>>961590A fair assesment.Also just want to say Kagoto's philosophy is pretty damn compelling, at least in a world as fucked up as this one. I want to adopt her as our grandmaru.
>>961553Fuck it, changing this >>961577to this>4 I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.
For those picking 3 remember we just made it clear that ANYONE FAILING AND ESSPECIALLY ALLOWING ANYONE TO FAIL IN ROOT IS BAD.Pick 4.
>>961618Danzo x kagoto
>>9615534. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.I want this to be our Root in the end. Not Danzo's, he can help us but he's had his time.
>>961553>4. I will achieve the power, so that Danzo cannot fail again.She just said that those without ambition are doomed to failure. Set out from the start to eclipse Danzo and become more powerful than he ever was or give up now.
>>961618Wouldn't mind an arranged marriage into this clan if we can really get her on our side. She seems pretty capable, I wander if she was a ninja.
Tsuki will achieve the power necessary so that Danzo cannot fail again.Writing~
>>961677Are you absolutely sure you want bugs in the vagoo
Just a thought, we would do better to have the Hokage be our puppet. Someone nice and loved like Minato was with Root controlling them from the shadows
>>961688Well by now Minato is probably one of those pain puppets so.. I mean we might be able to use him literally.
>>961638>implying that that didn't already happen at least once
>>961691>he doesn't think Minato survived somehow with the mystery 100
>>961688So, Hinata becomes Hokage after marrying Nardo and him dying for something heroic and dumb.EZ
>>961688Nah. A strong Hokage is a strong Leaf. We need someone competent but also understands the necessity of Tsuki's ROOT.
>>961695>arranging the death of your best friend's husband to ensure that her rule as hokage is more dependent on you and your shadow organizationdiabolical
>>961691>implying Mintao isn't in Frog world learning sage powers
>>961685One of my numerous fetishes so that would be fine.And still a better option that Rock Lee even if it wasn't.
>>961705Fuck off Johnny. Nobody else likes bug bites.
>>961705>worst fetish and worst boyabsolutely disgusting
>>961713>worst boySubjective and I'll fight you.
>>961691Puppetfags go and stay go reeeeeeee
>>961715Well I don't know if Pain's bodies are actual puppets.. or hive mind clones. I don't remember how that shit works.
>>961716In canon they were just puppets due to the bodies being already dead. What 'mind' they have is just direct control from Pain himself.
>>961716He jams magic sticks into corpses so he can control them and see through them with his mind and such. From miles away.The Rinnegan is ridiculous.
>>961716They share senses with Pain and he directly controls the corpses via those black piercings.>>961713I will fight you nigger. Not about the bugs cause I know that shit isn't everyone's cup of tea and is pretty fucked, but about Lee being any thing but a shit.
>>961713Bugs are the future anon
>>961721Not to mention manipulating gravity, spacetime, and bringing the fucking dead back to life en mass. I think that was the point I just threw up my hands and said "Fuck it," with regards to the series.
>>961744Mine was when Kabuto brought back every villain ever. I threw up my hands and said fuck this
“There is only one true path forward, Kogoto.” You say, standing from your chair. “I’m listening, Tsuki.” She says, leaning on the table.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCDlOLN9Y8“I will achieve the power required to safeguard Konoha. I will ensure that Danzo cannot fail again, by taking the lead myself. I have learned from his mistakes- so that even if he has not straightened his course, his future failures will be rendered irrelevant. “I, Tsuki Norihime, will lead them. I will force this world to react to us, rather than allow us to lapse into a stagnant state of reactionism. The glorious tree of Konoha will be reborn, beginning with it’s ROOTs.”“Exactly what I needed to hear, Tsuki. Consider the assistance of the Aburame yours- along with this word of advice. Lean on those stronger than you until you can achieve that power. The path you are on is long and hard- but it correct. Never waiver in that belief- and the world shall follow.”You bow to Kogoto, who returns the bow.“Your future is bright, Tsuki. If you ever feel the need for guidance, the Aburame will here to assist you.”“Of course- and the Norihime will earn the faith you have put in us.” You say in return.As you leave, you cannot help but smile. Have you realized something about yourself- or have your goals simply become that much clearer?Shino guides you out of the compound wordlessly- he, too, seems to have noticed the change. As you pass through the front gates, the quiet shinobi finally speaks.“Be careful, Tsuki-chan. I look forward to our cooperation.”In response, you shoot him your winning Norihime smile.
Big boss Tsuki is a goAnybody have that greentext?
>>961756Dat face. You have no idea how much of a hard-on I have right now. The results of these correct choices have led to something truly Glorious! ALL HAIL TSUKI!
>>961756So it begins, the ROOTs shall grow beneath the world and everyone's feet, we shall grow and choke the life out of all who oppose us. The tree shall grow as it is nourished by the blood of our foes.Speaking of which whatever happened to our blood moon flowers....
>>961756Ohhhh yes that pic. I like this choice
>>961773Hopefully destroyed. Those things are cursed.
>>961756OK great.Step 1 on the path to "Great Again" is now complete.Now time for step 2, Figuring out how to turn the Land of Fire into the Fire Nation.
>>961762Never mind found it
>>961779And get beaten by a bald kid and his gang?
And on that fortuitous note, Wargle's gonna go to bed.We'll return tomorrow evening for more Shinobi Quest!@WargleQM for bribes and such.Inter-thread discussion is a go!
>>961793Thank you for running
>>961793who will handle ROOT recruiting?
>>961793Night Wargle! Thank you for running!
>>961779That's easy, dad rebuilds everything and defenses, complete military and tech overhaul, no more of this primitive crap. The ROOT Gestapo in a way is now growing, all we need is a malleable Hokage. Pair this with supporters...we have the Aburame...I think we can get the Yamanaka.We make everything more centralized, no more of this clan bickering bullshit. It's everyone all in. They are apart of the village, obey, OBEY!
>>961795Tsuki and Danzo I would assume, but our agents would probably keep their eyes open for useful recruits
>>961786After like 100 years of propriety followed by 50 years of untold peace in every region.This is the best path for Konoha, the rest of the world will just have to suffer for a but as we get their.
>>961793Thanks for the run! Also, has Tsuki solidified the goal to take control of ROOT as it's leader in the future? I think the latest update says yes, but I'm just checking to be sure.
>>961795That depends how underground we go, but i'd suggest some Yamanaka, find out what people really think etc and wipe their memory if needs be.
>>961795Root Tsunade would be lovely.
Itachi-sensei will understand our commitment to the village, by any means necessary, right guys...?
>>961773I think we gave them to danzo, so they should still be safe in the below ground ROOT compund. I hope.
>>961807No way, he has to be kept way in the dark
>>961807Pfft yeah right. The dude is way too straight and loyal to the Hokage to do that. Better to just make sure we never give him any hints at all regarding this.
>>961807Nobody outside of ROOT may know of ROOT until we've been reinstated by the Hokage.This is pretty absolute.
>>961818I'm not saying we tell him, but if he finds out through circumstances beyond our control... Do you think he could be brought into the fold, or would we have to fight our sensei?
>>961803She has- although it's something that she can still play around with. She hasn't limited her aspirations to *just* controlling ROOT as of now.
>>961825I think he'd disagree with us and try to persuade us off the ROOT train, but I don't think he'd try to fight us either.
>>961825incapacitate and memory alteration if possible, but death if necessary. Still, if it came to a fight, I think we'd be pwned pretty frigging hard. So best to not let that happen, ever.
>>961827Itachi killed his entire family for what he thought was right, I don't think he won't fight us
>>961832>Itachi killed his entire family for what he thought was rightNo he didn't.
>>961832Canon!Itachi =/= Wargle!Itachi
>>961835Yes it didn't come to that in this universe but thats because it wasn't needed. Itachi would still be willing to kill people close to him for the leaf though
>>961835He didn't because this is a continuity where he wasn't forced to choose.If the chips were down, we know that he would do exactly that.
>>961825>would we have to fight our sensei?A Clash of Blades and Ideals! Such is the romance of a shinobi! Bullshit better left to trashy novels. Unless it is absolutely necessary I would like to keep a man as competent and loyal to the Leaf as Itachi alive . But if he demonstrates that he will actively oppose what we are working for...
>>961826Wargle we is this quest about to turn a game of Secret Hitler?I seems like we are about to play a game of Secret Hitler.
>>961837Wargle!Itachi hasn't had the same problems put before him. If he thinks Tsuki is Ebil he may kill her.
>>961845>>961840>>961839>>961838>>961837There's a simple solution, get so good Itachi CAN'T kill us.
>>961841Isn't the goal of Secret Hitler to *stop* the fascists?I kid. As always, you guys dictate where this quest goes.
>>961852Welp, dat Sharingan defense he taught us sure is going to be ironically useful for that, haha.
>>961864Something I think we should work on, especially since we have a convenient sensei in Itachi and a secret instructor with Danzo. If nothing else we can cover our ass with Itachi by mentioning how Snek has magic eyes and an interest in us or that we need to prepare for the next chuunin exams, if there are other Uchiha who will be competing.
>>961855Where i want this quest to go is down the road towards the United Empire of Eternal Flame. I want to truly unify the Land of Fire, industrialize it, then proceed to take over the lands of men.Tsuki will be this new nation's Queen, and when the world is ours, and the lesser nations have been indoctrinated into our great country they will call us Mistress of Blue Flame, she who purifies, and cleanses with her great flames. She who spreads the will of fire to every man, woman and child on the face of the earth.This is the future i ask for.
>>961756When i first started reading this quest from the very first thread i never imagined that things would go this way, that this route would be taken. Now the path is set, and we alone shall stand in heaven. And I have great anticipation for what is to come. Exalted drawfag, Aizen-Tsuki when?
>>961852I want to guess that just like this Kakashi is better than his canon counter part, this Itachi might be less OP, even discounting him not having developed mangekyo sharingan.
>>961795She can handle my root, if you know what I mean.
We need to get a hold of more rare Tsuki pictures to appease the dice gods. Dump what you have folks for others. All I had was the already posted Butt and Body Pillow pic, surly there are more
Wargle, how unlikely is it that we can create a Lawgiver style projectile weapon, given that kunai-launchers already exist?
So I cant remember, did Tsuki get that chunin promotion or did we get passed over?
>>961931Boy, Itachi was filling out an ANBU recommendation for us. That implies we might just shoot straight past chunin all together.
>>961961We can turn it down stating the fact we we going to be totally running dads company
You crazy fuckers. Itachi said that Root's problem was being loyal to only danzo and not konoha so tell him it will be and has bug and mind reader (soon) clan oversight. >You can totally trust me, your favorite pupil, sensei!
Things seemingly went well, but I just hope this doesn't bite us later.My problem in all this is that it doesn't address the real reason why Danzo failed. It wasn't because of a narrow dichotomy between pursuing too much power, or failing to secure power, it was because he had lost sight of where Konoha's interests differed from his own, and that's what caused him to start going off the rails. He convinced himself that his absolute loyalty to Konoha meant that his objectives were inherently for Konoha's own good, and that's what caused him to eventually start undertaking actions that were beneficial to him and ROOT but harmful to Konoha (see: demanding Kakashi's sharingan, attempting to assassinate the Third, the whole bit with Shisui, etc.).If he only hadn't lost sight of these things, ROOT might have continued to be a crucial arm of Konoha's black ops instead of being labeled a danger to the village.
>>962094Maybe so, but we did address the solution:Tsuki. Her influence has already changed Danzo for the better.
Man, I miss one thread and everyone goes completely stupid. The answer was obviously that he went about getting the power wrong. He betrayed someone that put huge amounts of trust in him. That's the wrong way to gain power.Ambition and a desire for more are not inherently good or bad (both the moral and "worse than something else" senses of the word) but how you go about fulfilling you ambition and obtaining you desires can be either. The way Danzo went about it was obviously morally wrong AND worse than pretty most any other option.>>961855GG Wargle you gave them the option of making Tsuki into a spineless pansy and a psychopath and everybody was too concerned with being right that they couldn't see the correct answer staring them in the face.
>>962393Failure to get the power is basically saying he went about it the wrong way.
>>962393Yes anon, you're so much smarter than everyone else and without you this quest is just a trainwreck. Maybe we should just stop voting and let you decide everything !
>>962400>2. Danzo’s sin was his failure to achieve the power he lusted after.That's 100% saying that his failure was his sin. It says nothing about his method of getting power being what was wrong.
>>962405You're at ad hominem right now. Step your game up anon.
>>962418When your argument is "without me all of you go retarded and miss the obvious answer that I see immediately", you can't very well expect me to separate your person and your point.In any case, you finding one option to be better than others is great. But you're just trying to start shit by complaining about other anons and even calling out Wargle. It's like you want to kill the quest or something.
>>962418You are an ass hat.
>>962437My argument wasn't "without me" is was "nobody noticed" because everyone was just shitposting and arguing too much to read into what the old lady said and what Danzo did.And I'm not calling out Wargle, it was the right kind of character building in the situation Tsuki was in.>>962438Oh yeah?You're a doo doo butt head.
>>962443You should go back and read the first sentence because you very clearly expressed that your absence left only idiots around.
>>962449OK yeah it did. I didn't mean for it to mean that though. There were always people who voted for a 3rd option in other votes like this. I was surprised nobody did this time.
>>962393>the anon who has the right idea is a moron who doesn't realize being an asshole will cause people to emotionally oppose his point, thus invalidating any benefits and sway his insight would normally grant>thanks to his mishandling, most people are now generally opposed to the legitimate point he brought up, making it more difficult for anybody else to argue it successfullyI kind of hate your guts right now.
>>962393The answer we gave was objectively correct, hence us getting the Opinion increase. No ifs, ands or butts about it.
>>962472Alright fine I'm a sperglord with poor communications skill that gets too butthurt at how every Shinobi Quest is 50% shitposting. I should realize not everyone can understand what I'm thinking when I say something, sarcasm is hard to communicate over text, and not everyone ignores insults on the internet.I'll just go spend all my time /r9k/ until I eventually kill myself due to confirmation bias and dwelling on my faults and failings all the time.tl;dr My point was that Action matters more than Intent. Maybe I practice the insights I have.
>>962487This. We absolutely picked the right choices, it's why we got so much approval.
>>962487>>962535I was talking about the beliefs and philosophies you were having Tsuki believe. Another person's opinion of your beliefs does not make them more or less correct.
>>962488Your point about Danzo fucking up with regards to how he pursued power (as opposed to the pursuit of power itself or the inability to obtain the power) was a very valid one, one that we likely should have mentioned if we weren't convinced that doing so would just irritate her.Kogoto likely wouldn't have given a damn about it though, and that's kind of my minor objection to having this event used as a touchstone for Tsuki's beliefs. Hopefully the other head negotiations will help flesh her views out more.>>962487>>962535>Old lady Kogoto's approval is objectively morally correctI know she's strong, and we want her support, but really now.
>>962547>>962554What I meant was it was objectively the correct answer to give her. That's it, leave me out of your pseudo intellectual wank fest of "NO I'M RIGHT YOU'RE ALL WRONG"
>>962488I should shit post more often.
>>962561>pseudo intellectual wank fest Well what else are we supposed to do when we're determining Tsuki's beliefs? Talk about My Little Pony or something? Wait, isn't MLP's a board now? We'd get banned.
>>962577It'd be cute to see Tsuki building her diabolical and underhanded plans using stuffed animals and dolls as stand-ins for people.Especially if they all the animals squeak.
>>962561Our choices in there were interpreted as Tsuki correspondingly refining her beliefs according to what she told Kogoto. That's the reason for the whole line about how she "sees things clearer now", and that's the part that worries me seeing as Kogoto clearly wanted to hear Tsuki tell her a specific interpretation of old ROOT's failings.
>>962589Well Yume would be Danzo, obviously, but what animals would Tsuki get for everyone else?
>>962600We had exactly two choices, no third options. 2 was correct as shown by our increase of opinion. If you want to debate about what Tsuki actually believes leave out right/wrong verbiage.
>>962602Big spider for the Aburames, even though they keep correcting her that spiders aren't bugs.
>>962603Fine, I apologize for that semantic error.I meant that the other anon had a point about the restrictive nature of the conversation when Danzo's true failings weren't really either the choice to pursue power or the failure to obtain it.That said, she did ask us "which of the two" so, as I acknowledged before, writing in a third option on that specific choice likely would have just irritated her, but even so we might have been able to find some way elaborate on the nature of Danzo's failure.
Remember that increasing Kogoto's opiniom of you means it was the answer she was looking for, based on her interpetation of events and her philosophy.This does not make it factually correct- and critizing Danzo's actions towards gaining really only falls into one of two camps-He was either wrong because of what he did (option 1) or he was wrong because he was unable to do it successfully (option 2)Again, Kogot's beliefs explain what she was looking for- you couldve disagreed with her and have Tsuki explain her side of it.You would've lost opinion, sure, but wouldn't have failed the Negotiation. You were still sitting at +3 overall.Love that it garnered this much discussion. Thread in about 2 hours.
>>962603I said it earlier, and Wargle also said it here >>962792 but another person's opinion of your belief doesn't make it more or less correct.
I'm actually really happy with Tsukis path.
>>962881Same. The current development is exactly what I wanted.
>>962881I just want ROOT to not target Konoha or people faithful to it in the future. Anything else is more or less fine.That was pretty much the main reason anyway why they're villains in canon instead of questionable allies.
>>962881Rather not go to the power mad route. All of this talking Itachi is ridiculous.
>>962881>>962898Thirding this. ROOT Tsuki for the win
What matters is how we go about getting power.Actual actions in the field matter more than honeyed words.Take Danzo's failures to heart, learn from it, keep our eyes open, get perspectives.
>>962908>>962914Yeah, it's bafflingly OOC
>>962965And not overextend ourselves.We need to consolidate power, gain allies (possibly using Aburame insects to "bug" places/people for intel), and be careful to avoid suspicion. If we nail this ANBU promotion, we get access to shit we'd struggle to get close to from the outside.
>>962908>>962974It was just an idiot thinking that this Itachi is the same as canon.
Ok folks, who do we move to next I vote the Yamanaka since they were former ROOT Recruit providers.
Whoever replaces Minato better still give us the Kibas
My question is how Moon Mommy is gonna take this recent development?Can we still go bunny route, will the 4 sprites support this turnaround? If not what the fuck are we gonna do about it?
>>962985>Still caring about Kibas>>962989>Moon MommyLiteral cancer
>>962985I'm sure Danzo would have little issue with ensuring his most loyal, capable member of ANBU is properly armed...
>>962985>New guy decides to use the kiba himself
>>962989>Moon mommyStoping you therePleaseI just want to go one thread without having both sides shilling to no end
>>962984If we get them then we should try and get the Akamichi and Nara since they like to stick together >>962996 >Time for Root first assassination
>>962989There shouldn't be any problems. We can still visit her during the night when we dream to continue conversing about human life. ROOT does nothing to affect that.
>>962994We aren't joining ANBU. It would be way too much pressure and stress leading a triple life like that.Bruce Wayne Tsuki can use the Kibas. Batman ROOT Tsuki shouldn't.
>>963005We are gonna need a good fucking excuse to not join ANBU though. Tsuki has been shown to want to have more power and we would be turning down a huge step up in the world. Not even for meta reasons, but to not seem super suspicious.
>>962989>Moon MommyFuck off with your moon demon shit.
>>963010Tell them we're worried about being targeted for our new release so we want to train ourself more before taking on missions with stronger enemies who might capture us for our wealth/release
>>962989>Moon Mommy>Not Mecha Stalin
>>963010We need to put a lot of focus on the Norihime Enterprise and ANBU would detract from it?
>>963005>Bruce Wayne Tsuki can use the Kibas. Batman ROOT Tsuki shouldn't.Agreed. When on public normal missions, Kibas are a go. When on ROOT missions, use plain normal stuff only.>>963010In the end it's just a potential recruit thing. No one has made such an offer, and we can refuse it if we don't want to by saying we have a busy life ding other things, like family business and technology development to do.
>>963014I can work with that. Being worried since most of our combat uses a super special release meaning that if we are spotted people will know it is us.>>963019Maybe throw a tiny bit of that in too.>>963021We do need to boost our regular jutsu so Stellar doesn't throw us away. Maybe train for Earth Jutsu in private if we can find someone to teach us.
>>963025I wonder if we can make something that can conceal the glow of Afterglow. It's the most subtle of our Stellar Tech
>>962999You got that last thread, and while i hate summonwars as much as the next guy we need to think of the consequences of this last action.>>963002Its not being apart of ROOT that will make her upset, it's what we plan to do with the power.There has been alot of talk of turning the Leaf into a superpower and shit and that goes against everything she cares about.>>962991>>963012>>963017Guys calm down it was a joke. Because shes on the moon, and also wants to be our mommy.
>>963038You say it is a joke, but people actually call her that. Also I doubt either of them give a shit about joining ROOT. 4 Demons might actually like it because it means taking things into our own hands. Also we DO need to talk with them to find out what they wanna say before it is too pressing. Moon Demon and Bunnies probably won't hurt to check up on sometime also. I can maybe see Moon Demon not liking the idea of us going for power, but we could spin it to her about wanting peace.
>>963038>Mecha Stalin>Not a jokeSpace Stalin?Moon Hitler?Galactic Genocider?Star Killer?The Psycho from OUTER SPACE!Callbacks to old space movies don't work too well without bolded italics.
>>963046I highly doubt she hasn't heard the "Im waging war to create peace" line before but im sure if she was really upset we could always use our natrual charisma and hugs to calm her down. I almost forgot about our meeting with the 4, I've been wanting to chat with them for a while now.
>>963060I like Galactic Genocide and Star Killer as the name of Stellar moves.Speaking of we should hit the lab again when we get the chance.Gets some new jutsu under our belt.
>>963075Given the Norhime talent for robotics I wouldn't be supprised if we saw a Mecha Stalin.Mecha = Their talentStalin = What's scarier than a communist who doesn't believe in the free market?
Speaking of free market, when will Tsuki build a night club?
>>963103When we think of an accidental innuendo to name it. Maybe the Tip or something
>>963103rather have a Fight Club
>>963106Not everything needs to be innuendo.
>>963109But then where would we get rare tsuki dance gifs?
>>963109But fights are everywhere and they're free. No money to make.
>>962833Nigger don't ignore what I'm saying, it was the correct option objectively to get her last bit of opinion. I'm not saying the words were any more correct than anything else, we told her what she wanted to hear. End of story,
>>963116Just make them victory dances>>963128its about community and catharsisand Tsuki could probably pull off Tyler Durden crazy outfits
>>963129We were talking about the effect the decision had on Tsuki's philosophy as a character though.
>>963109>Build a Ninja recreation center.>For a small fee we provide Leaf ninja a place to practice using state of the art equipment and multiple private sparring arenas to test their skill against their fellow ninja in a safe environment where they dont have to worry about property damage or anything.>Host monthly fighting tournaments to provide young ninja with even more motivation to increase their skills, while also making money on the side.>Allow normies to watch the tournaments for a fee.This shit is fucking golden boys.Its an idea that fucking prints money.
>>963155Use it as a ROOT recruitment centre...
>>963151I said keep me out of that shit, especially the "oh you all fucked up" part.
>>963155Love it.>>963163No. Sounds too suspicious.
>>963163YES DUDES THIS IS GREATWe get MONEY, We get MAN POWERWe need to hope in this shit.
>>963182>>963163Nonononono, see >>963172
>>963166>You're wrong>Don't argue against my pointHave you been on this site before? And if you didn't want to be a part of something, why not just ignore it? Am I somehow forcing you to argue?Watch, I won't reply to any reply you have. It's easy.
>>963172How about we use it as a recruitment center for Norihime Security forces.... A training place for none ninja to learn how to fight. Get the civies up and trained and on our side. We are the people
>>963188When I have I ever said you were wrong? We were making different points from the get go, only thing you did wrong was be a smug superior twat which is pretty commonplace anyway.
>>963109Oh shit, that's a good idea.A normal club up top, nice music, dancing, booze, flashing lights and allUnderneath and off the record, a boxing ring smeared with blood.A place for shinobi to get their frustration out, or for a civvie to prove their mettle.
First post incoming within a few minutes lads and ladies.~~~
>>963211I like the idea above of it being a public recreation center. Less chance of shady shit getting us in trouble.
>>963172>>963186Ok yeah i forgot we were supposed to keep it secret.Well we can still use it to separate the wheat from the caft in regards to talent amoung up and coming ninja.
>>963226We don't have any pies for you to steal here! begone
>>963232Not everything has to be about ROOT, Anon. I rather not pigeonhole all of Tsuki's choices.
>>963226Guess you're back into it huh Woolie?
>>963238yeah! we have a Ramen shop to shill!
>>963237Butchu got some short haired waifus, don'tcha?>>963243NEVER LEFT
>>963213YeeessssssI'm really feeling itNORIHIMEHell Yeah, FUCK YEAHI feel like killing itNORIHIME
>>963245Two words, Salty. Bet.
>>963254David C Age
>>963249Takyon (Stellar Yon)?
And what about an actual gym for shinobi?Think about it, ninja are always doing some crazy random shit out in the woods somewhere.All we do is compile the best methods of training, set everything up and charge a membership fee."Gee, i'm having difficulty learning to do this one thing" -A NinjaThen the dude comes in and we have targets set up at all kinds of angles for practicing your kunai throwing, padded posts for practicing your kicking, unpadded posts for REALLY practicing your kicking, swimming courses, sparring rings, a sectioned off area for practicing destructive techniques like fire or lightning jutsu almost like a gun range, a simulated tree course with complex jumps, a little area off the the side where you can safely practice assembling and removing a wide variety of traps, extra-extra heavy weights for strength training, extra-extra heavy bands for resistance speed training, treadmills that can handle a ninja's high speed, long-endurance running and so on.Have one or two instructors along with free training manuals (gym property, no stealing) to help people learn how to use the equipment and teach them the proper technique to train what they're wanting.A single, large area where ninja of all levels can train their abilities without having to leave the village.And of course we'd sell nutrition pills supplied by the akimichi clan to help boost recovery and energy, as well as lots of regular snacks and drinks at a high markup.Ninja Gym.
As you leave the sheltered confines of eastern Konoha that the Aburame call home, the cold nighttime air nips at your ears. Winters are not especially harsh in the Land of Fire, but with the final days of Autumn waning, it shouldn’t be too long before soft white snows blanket Konoha. You’ve never been overly fond of winter. Though it is the season of your birth, it’s unpleasant weather and cold temperatures have done little to endear it to you. Even mission traffic generally slows in the winter months, as the northern nations settle in to endure the harsh weather. This season might be different, of course- the world seems intent on shattering your notions of normality of late.You sigh- your breath dissipating in a faint cloud.You miss the warm summer nights, and the breezy spring days.But, as Kogoto said- time marches ever forward. The seasons you enjoy will come again in time.It's funny- you found that while the old woman was definitely imtimidating- she wasn't nearly as scary as some people seemed to think. Or... have you simply not seen that side of her...?For now, though, you focuse on how to spend the rest of your night.You will….1. Go report to Danzo on the successful negotiation with the Aburame.2. Return to the Hyuga compound. The report can wait- and besides, it’s getting chilly out.
>>963279>1. Go report to Danzo on the successful negotiation with the Aburame.
>>963279>1. Go report to Danzo on the successful negotiation with the Aburame.Don't let the man wait. Let him begin his preparations now that he knows we have Aburame's support.
>>963279>2. Return to the Hyuga compound. The report can wait- and besides, it’s getting chilly out.
>>963279>2. Return to the Hyuga compound. The report can wait- and besides, it’s getting chilly out.Chill with the other princess for a bit.
>>963277>Lee and Rock would be Tsuki's best costumers
>>963279>2. Return to the Hyuga compound. The report can wait- and besides, it’s getting chilly out.Comfy!
>>9632791. Go report to Danzo on the successful negotiation with the Aburame.
>>9632791. Go report to Danzo on the successful negotiation with the Aburame
>>963279>1. Go report to Danzo on the successful negotiation with the Aburame.Remember, we still need to meditate to meet with the beasts and Kaguya, and we still need to buy Neji a skilled legal defender.
>>963297Probably.The more weights we have, the happier they'll be.But think about it, an actual designated place designed to be trained at, designed to make training easier.The first one of it's kind in a village FULL to the BRIM with ninja.You could probably make a couple ryo on that one, yeah.I'd say we should at least suggest the idea to father, see what he thinks about it.With konoha rebuilding, now is a better time than ever to make new additions.
>>963277I could get behind this. But we would need a place to set it all up.
>>963277I really like this idea. Why hasn't anyone already done this?
>>963303This. Get this shot sorted
>>963309The problem though is that not everyone is cut out to be ninjas or warriors. They're trained at childhood.
We should get Danzo to teach us that seal of his thats keeps agents from talking about Root, thats really useful in this world
>>963313Large parts of the village were just destroyed right? Gotta be some land we can by for cheap. Sell it as Revitalzing Konoha.
>>963322Probably not a bad idea.
>>963321And where do you think they're going to train?Out in the woods on their own with no equipment, or in the gym where everything's set up and ready to go, whatever they need to train?Besides, not everyone is tsuki-tier.Most ninja are probably relatively weak genin or chunin, and could easily make use of our gym to keep their bodies in shape, not just to get stronger.
>>963277Also, sell personal trainer service.
>>963334Not to mention, we could get a sweet contract with the academy for pre-graduated student use.
Let's visit Papa Danzo.Writing.
>>963340True.New students would get a hell of a lot of use out of a ninja gym.
If people know that Roots been restarted we're probably one of the main suspects since Danzo's been raising us, so we should look for a fail guy or two to sell down the river
>>963344Maybe pitch the ninja gym idea to father afterwards?
>>963344How much of Tsuki's allowance money would it take to get a good ninja lawyer to represent Neji?
>>963279>1>>963309If all goes well we might invent a new sport which gives us EVEN MORE MONEY
>>9633466 seconds late.
>>963360BLITZ-BALL FOR NINJAS.
>>963366>hitball>it's literally just dodgeball with weighted balls>good fucking luck
>>963374Nah, nah>Big open field with trees and ponds>A ring on each side>One ball>No seriously injuring the other players>Ball in ring is 1 Point
>>963380>No seriously injuring the other playersIt's like you don't know how ninja sports work, anon.
>>963380Ah, ninjas get injured in training near-constantly.All i care about is them damaging the equipment.This is not the place to be practicing your rasengan on the practice dummies or hitting mach 3 on the treadmill when you open the fourth gate.It's meant for the MAJORITY of ninjas.And that's why it'd be incredibly profitable.
>>963380Eeeeh, crippling the customers isn't a good business practice, Anon.
>>963380>ball is covered in a seals>6 in total >3 chosen by each team>by pumping chakra into the ball it can pull shit off like shooting lighting, summoning multiple clones, and shunshin >whoever gets to 12 points first wins
>>963387>>963389I just mean like >>963392
>>963389>>963380Ninja sports does actually sound like a really good idea, though.If we made a sport popular enough, we could sell tickets.And you know how much fucking money football pull in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cl-f8NABMM
>>963407Merch for the fans; some sort of news outlet for people who can't make it to games ; etc.
>>963431The best way to really promote that tribalistic "them vs. us" mentality is to hold games against other nations.This week in Blitzball, Konoha vs. Sunagakure
>>963440Actually, it'd be pretty much just like the chunin exams in that regard.It'd allow people to let off some steam, size up eachothers players and so-on.Yeah, i think ninja sports would be really really damn popular.And certainly more interesting to watch than normal sports for people who wouldn't otherwise give a shit.
>>963440First have matches with Konoha teams, but they're friendly. Then build up competition with other villages and make that more fierce.Also make a civilian-focused version of the sport, so they can have their own games too.
>>963449Civilians could probably just play regular sports, like actual football.Either way, this is going to rake in a shitton of money if we do it.
>>963455I feel like we might alienate a potential customer base.
>>963465I feel like regular sports might not be as popular when you could be watching ninja sports.
>>963448We're going to make Captain Tsubasa with ninja magic bullshit instead of anime soccer bullshit.I didn't realize that I wanted this so badly.
>>963467True. I just don't want to have the citizens that really want to play feel left out.
>>963479So ninja gym and ninja sports.We got a lot to talk to father about when we get back to the compound.It'll be nice, it's been a while since we've done anything with him.
No- it’s best to make the report now. You can tough out a bit of cold- and some exercise should warm you up.Utilizing the Shunshin, you rush to a nearby rooftop, and take off running towards the Hokage Monument, and the entrance to the ROOT facility.-------As you climb the flights of stairs leading upwards behind the monument, you cannot help but wonder at some of Kogoto’s words. Hashirama Senju.Tobirama Senju.Hiruzen Sarutobi.Minato Namikaze.Were differences in ambition truly the biggest differences between them? Certainly Minato did not seem to have much in the way of ambition for Konoha- especially compared to the other three. Minato had no war to fight, no village to establish. Now, another will take up the seat of Hokage, during a time where Konoha is quite vulnerable. It honestly worries you- even more than it had previously. Konoha needs a strong, visionary leader- but you, or rather, Danzo- has every intention of installing a Kage who will listen to his council, or possibly even an effective puppet. These goals seem at odds- and you don’t have any way to reconcile them right now. You can only hope that a resolution makes itself clear before the selection begins in earnest.----------You gently slide the door in Danzo’s old quarters aside, stepping into the elevator shaft.Producing your key, you insert it into the ignition- and the mechanism sputters to life.Within a few days, Father should return- likely with news from the Capital. If the selection is to happen soon….1. Danzo might actually be a good choice. A strong, decisive leader, who obviously knows what must be done to achieve greatness for Konoha. 2. Kakashi would be serviceable- Itachi has faith in him- and perhaps he could be convinced to lend Danzo his ear?3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.(To be clear, you are not selecting the next Hokage here- only determining Tsuki’s personal opinion.)
>>963518>2. Kakashi would be serviceable- Itachi has faith in him- and perhaps he could be convinced to lend Danzo his ear?
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Danzo has too many enemies and should be leading ROOT imoKakashi is the student of Minato through and through, we need somebody firmerthere must be a another option
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Itachi. If Itachi has faith in Kakashi, Kakashi should be made head of ANBU while Itachi steps up. Not bring him over his head.
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.While i'd rather have Danzo straight up in charge, putting him at the top straight up draws the eye and will draw attention.If we are to revive ROOT proper...we need to stay in the dark. It's not about titles or standing in the spotlight, its about doing what has to be done behind the scenes.We need someone malleable...
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Someone that'll keep the peace and be willing to do what's necessary would be best. Everyone hates Danzo and Kakashi would fit, but isn't one to be controlled.
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Neither are good enough. One is too old, and the other doesn't have the required aspects. (Hint: We want Tsunade)
Also folks remember Danzo and kakashi dont really get along...especially after the whole Tenzo situation
>>963532>Danzo has too many enemies and should be leading ROOT imoI also think that his experiences might affect his judgement negatively. Like personal grudges and shit would start to drive his motivations instead of the good of the village.>>963535I think he'd hate the office work.
>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Danzo would be a good hokage, but as it's been stated before, our kind are better off working in the shadow, doing what the face of our country never could.All we need is his understanding, his allowance to do the dirty deeds that need be done.
>>963518>2. Kakashi would be serviceable- Itachi has faith in him- and perhaps he could be convinced to lend Danzo his ear?>>963547Would Tsuki know that?
>>963537Not malleable. Amendable to our notions and uses.Kagoto was right, we do need a strong leader in this period of turmoil, not a weaker leader. So a strong person who understands the uses and recognises the advantages of a blacker than black service like root.
>>963557Thanks to Shisui giving us a compressed ROOT flashback i think so. He'd be there and it happened before the would be massacre so yes, yes we would
>>963518>1. Danzo might actually be a good choice. A strong, decisive leader, who obviously knows what must be done to achieve greatness for Konoha.
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Danzo has too much baggage (like Clinton) with his previous exploits and Kakashi isn't fit for it imo
>>963564Maybe Shikaku would be a good choice. He isn't the strongest in the village but he is the smartest, and he has been a confidant of hokages
>>963574cough, Tsunade, cough
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Kakashi is an adequate choice, but not an especially good one, and Danzo, while a loyal protector of Konoha, has shown difficulty with distinguishing his interests from Konoha's; he would only be a tyrant if he had complete control. There has to be a better choice out there.
There must be a third path....Writing.
>>963574Thats... thats actually a pretty good choice, all told. Im not sure tsuki has seen or met him enough to think that though.
>>963574Defiantly not. The Nara are rather anti ROOT and secondly having him as head would lead to clan fracturing as the Clans focus more on themselves.Dare I say it... Hinata's Dad if we get him on side?
>>963594I don't remember the Nara's being anti Root
>>963591>Kogoto as HokageOh dear lord, please no.
>>963587Does the hokage have to be a ninja?
>>963591>KagotoI'm ok with this.
>>963594>Hinata's DadNo, thanks. Don't want a eugenist as hokage
>>963593Too weak >>963594Also too weak, and at the moment is Anti ROOT. The way Wargle explained it to me is Clans that are against ROOT: Maybe Hyuga and the Uchia are firmly opposed. The Fatties are also opposed, but their suboordinates the Yamanakas and the Nara are more supportive, but they won't go against their boss's will.Clans for ROOT: Aburame
>>963609The Hokage isn't just a leadership spot, it must have one of the strongest ninjas to fill the seat. After all, this is NOT a democracy, it's a military dictatorship with the strongest at the top.
>>963601It's more they are very "Will of fire". Put it this way the village has lots of parallels for the Leaves and Roots.Hiruzen/DanzoNara/AburameThose are two of the more obvious examples
>>963614better than the alternatives
>>963609Kages are usually the reason you don't declare a war on a nation. They are one person armies to surpass all others.
Only one problem>go meet kogoto>"i told her you fucked up hard and now i think she should be hokage instead of you, also i want to take over ROOT so you can't fuck up again"
>>963518>3. There must be another choice. Neither is the candidate that Konoha needs to survive.Wow putting Danzo in charge with Shisui's hate boner is a terrible idea. Moreso than before. Karashi...actually not much better, with Obito around.
Ok so we need to win support of the Inoshikacho..... Fuck.Ok we know the Yamanaka are very likely to side with us, the Nara are iffy. Its the Akimichi we need to deal with...at-least we're on good terms with Choji.
>>963634Shikamaru can maybe vouch for us. Maybe play up that both our families are putting their brains together could save many lives.
>>963631We just say we convinced her of our resolve and that ROOT will not fail. We only replace him if he fails or goes down.
>>963634It would be smart to look into getting some of the smaller clans too like and we should check out the Inazunas
>>963641She is a powerful matriarch, but she'll turn Konoha into a place that makes the Land of Snow look like a paradise.
>>963634Should probably go play shoji with shikamaru and meet with his father.
>>963660Getting the Nara on our side means basically nothing without the Akimichi
>>963665If we get the Nara then the Akimichi will be more likely to join since we have both their supporting clans.
One of the minor clans we can look into is the Kurama clan which is great genjutsu users. If I remember right its just one lonely girl right now.
>>963665Getting the Akimichi on our side means basically nothing without the Nara.
>>963665One at a time. Work with the ones more favourable first and move upwards.They won't go against in public but there will be private consultations and if both houses do agree that there is use, we might be able to persuade the akimichi privately to agree that the measures are required in these times.
Aburame Clan: Support ROOTAkimichi Clan: UnknownHyūga Clan: UnlikelyInuzuka Clan: Total UnknownNara Clan: Possible is carefulSarutobi Clan: Not a chance in hellUchiha Clan: Not a chance in hellUzumaki Clan: Not a chance in hellYamanaka Clan: Supported us before, may againAm i forgetting anyone?
>>963672S'actually false because the Nara and Yamanaka are subordinate to the Akimichi >>963681Seems like you got most of them, Akimichi is also No
>>963689We know that if both Nara and Yamanaka are for ROOT then the Akimichi will fold.
>>963695S'not how it works, it isn't a democracy. They follow the lead of their noble house
>>963697The Akimichi are very nice, also it will be a big push in our favour.
Why not get Danzo in charge? He's not exactly the same person that he was in the original Manga.
>>963701They're also stubborn, I don't think it's that easy
>>963681>Uzumaki Clan: Not a chance in hellI mean, it's just Nori and Naruto now, we have a pretty good relationship with them, I'm sure if we spin it the right way they'd be on board.spin their father's death in our favor, say if he were alive he'd take whatever steps necessary to keep the village safe now that it was in danger
>>963697They have the final say, but securing the favor of their subordinates would still likely count in our favor.
>>963708Because it will provoke other nations...but we shall see.
>>963713Nah they inherited daddy's WoF and have pervy sage whispering in their ear.
>>963708He is still pretty close actually.>>963712It won't be easy. But getting the Nara on our side first would easier. Way I see it is Nara first means we have two kinda hard sells. If we do Akimichi first then we have a very hard sell and one free ROOT in or major drama.This is all assuming the Yamanaka will join up. Negotiations will still be hard no matter what we do.
>>963708He's still close enough to his old self that having him in charge could be bad.Better to keep him in the position where he can do the most good for Konoha.
>>963713Nori and Naruto should be under the Minato Clan by recognised parentage. Also, Their mother is still alive.
>>963713(They don't have a seat on the council and are super tiny) The only clans that matter are the Hyuga, Uchia, Aburame and Akimichi (formerly Senju)
>>963724When dealing with the clans of the main characters, i think we need to go full "will of fire" in our arguments.Because that's what they're all about in the end.Also asuma sensei when, he was a badass.
>>963681Kurama. Originally one of the more prominent clans in Konohagakure due to their extreme Genjutsu Kekkei Genkai. In-canon they were basically forgotten by most people and they don't care about who's in charge much either. Helping with their problems could give us a few very useful members.
Are we sure the Sarotobi's wouldn't support us? I mean Hiruzen did let Danzo do Root in the background for a long while
>>963727Every clan helps. But as Kogoto said, a swarm of the strong will be stronger than a swarm of weakling.>>963731I personally wouldn't even risk bringing ROOT up with any clan besides the Shika/In/Cho>>963735That clan has literally one person in it.
>>963727if that's true we should try to win over the Akimichi and Hyuga then
>>963738Hiruzen's dead and his son, Asuma never liked Danzo as we saw when we went to meet the third.Asuma's probably the head now of the clan now and with him in place, not a chance of getting their approval now.
>>963741>That clan has literally one person in it.You serious man? Go do some research before saying that. One of them was particularly crazy and powerful yes, but there are other members.
>>963741She has extremely strong Genjutsu, we should definitely look into recruiting her. She will be a strong asset.
>>963750One person of the main branch. My bad>>963753She could not fully control it in canon and had her powers sealed by the third.
>>963757On orders of the third. Gotta be exact for >>963750
I honestly think Hiashi will be easier to convince than the Akimichis. We're already friends with the heir to the head branch to the clan and have his ear.
Oh shit, i just realized.With minato gone, we can just take the kiba.They're ours anyways.When we meet up with danzo we need to ask him to collect them for us right away.
>>963782>friends with the heirMeans nothing to someone like him. >have his earEr, do we? I forget.
>>963789Well that was a typo, but he likes us enough. Have a feeling he'd be more amenable in any case.
>>963787pretty sure they'd be noticed if they went missing
>>963787That would be technically stealing unless we have proof Minato said he would give them to Tsuki.
Neither of them seem particularly like the right choice- for a variety of reasons. You begin to rub your temples. A genin shouldn’t have to worry about these kind of things, right?As the elevator shudders to a stop, you collect your key and exit. It isn’t long before you spot Danzo, on the lower floor directing traffic. As you make your way downward, he comes to greet you. “Certainly back sooner than I expected- did everything go smoothly?” He asks- although his features don’t indicate any worry.“Naturally.” You say with a wink.“I convinced the old woman of my resolve- and she has pledged the support of the Aburame to the revival of ROOT.” You report.“Excellent, Tsuki. Never doubt the persuasive powers of the Norihime, eh?” He says, smiling faintly. The news seems to brightened his spirits even further- maybe you could….1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto.2. Ask him about the event with Shisui.3. Do neither, and simply enjoy his praise.
Alright so Im just gonna put this out there because the way we seem to be going is straying from the way we probably should be.Absolute power corrupts absolute. This has been proven time and time again throughout history. Danzo, while I agree his major sin was not acchieving his goal of stealing Shisui's eye, learned the lesson of becoming drunk with power. The main reason he most likely resigned himself to become our butler was because of penance, a chance to redeem himself.It has taken 10 years for that penance to get to the point that society is BEGINNING to accept him again.What I am trying to say is that we are going down the same path he did. We believe that the end goal can be justified with the means. Konoha must be protected from all enemies right? Both domestic and foreign.>The only difference is when you become that enemy Konoha must be protected from.Do not go mad with power. It is our duty to protect Konoha, but innocent death only begets innocent death. If we attempt to go too far with our "protection", and start hurting our own people, we will be no better than Orochimaru, which is exactly what that sick fucking snek wants.
>>963806>1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto.Bully the Danzo
>>963806>1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto.
>>963806>2. Ask him about the event with Shisui.If we meet with the other clan heads, I guarantee that this will be brought up again.
>>963806>3. Do neither, and simply enjoy his praise.No bully.
>>963787>>963794>>963798Who said stealing?We had a deal with minato, who is now missing and probably dead.They were ours to begin with.>>963806>4. Ask him if he can collect our kiba that we own
>>963806>1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto."She seems nice~"
>>963806>1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto.Set up Danzo with Kogoto is a go
>>963806>1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto.>2. Ask him about the event with Shisui.
>>963820He said that he'd consider it.He isn't here to consider it anymore, and that means we're SoL on the Kiba until another Hokage is declared.
>>963155>Above ground is an arena where others can test their strength and talent in front of everybody>>963211>Underground is an arena where the strongest and toughest fight it no holds bard style where permanent injury or even death may occur just to see who's the best.Tsuki is Baki
>>963839>permanent injury or even death may occur just to see who's the best.That would invite only more suspicion, Anon.>Ninjas go to new center>Some don't come out>People start asking questionsNo to death clubs.
>>963831He essentially wanted to be sure we were ready and mature enough for them.We collected the bastards, we decided to let him determine when we were ready for them, and he's dead now.The hokage is probably dead, the village is in ruins and we're just begging to be invaded.This is not the time to be turning down powerful weapons that we've been waiting on since this quest began, especially when they're just sitting right there and all we have to do it pick them up.Just ask danzo to go get them officially.It's not stealing.
Oi you lot, quit joking around.Tsuki needs to know more about the Shisui incident if she's to parry the accusations from heads less fond of ROOT.
>>963806>2. Ask him about the event with Shisui.
>>963853Now is exactly the time for the people in charge to not allow such powerful weapons to be taken out.
>>963853>He essentially wantedWe can't prove that.We have no ground to stand on there, seeing as he's not there to clarify. Taking the weapons at this point would be treated as a crime, plain and simple.
>>963867Are you a fuckin' idiot?Serious question.We have super swords.Just fucking lying around under the hokage's desk.Konoha is severely weakened.Don't use the swords to protect konoha.This is you.
>>963806>1. Tease him about his “history” with Kogoto.Apparently my reaction to having a beetle land on my head was similar to a certain someone's along time ago (smile coyly at him)
>>963878Why give them to a genin and not Kakashi or someone good, though?
>>963878That image is for you pal. You are the only person here that doesn't realize we can't just get the swords.
Engaging bully protocols~
>>963876WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE ANYTHING TOIt's on the official mission report dude, we collected them.If anyone argues against it, we're best buds with pretty much everyone with a shred of power right now.I think we can get away with officially claiming the swords that we collected.>>963886Because they don't belong to him.He doesn't even know about them.
>>963894>Because they don't belong to him.They don't belong to us either.
>>963894The mission report doesn't give us ownership over the swords.
>>963888>we can't just get the swordsName one person who's going to stop us from officially requisitioning them.>>963902Yes they do.We collected them after the previous owner died.The hokage had us next in line to take them.Even if it's not official, we have the closest thing to a title to them.>>963905The mission report proves we're the ones who recovered them.
>>963894We're proving it to the same people who have assigned people to keep random ninja from stealing the swords of legend. Probably Itachi's boys right now, if I were to guess.Do you really think there's nobody tasked with making sure that these important blades are kept secure?
>>963894Minato made the promise but Minato isn't here right nowwhoever takes over might not honor that promise.I say wait and see who the next hokage is
>>963912>We collected them after the previous owner died.That doesn't mean we own them.Just that we picked them up after the actual owner died.
>>963921Minato's rotting corpse is lying in an alternate dimension.And say they follow your line of logic and decide not to give a genin the legendary swords, now what?You just fucked yourself out of getting some legendary swords, dumbass.>>963922Lad, they're legendary swords.If not us, they'd go back to the mizukage or whoever the fuck owned them last.And that's dumb.>>963918And itachi knows we recovered them as well.And as the hokage's left hand, he no doubt knows about our deal with him.All you have to do is ask.
>>963912>The hokage had us next in line to take themAs far as anybody else knows, no he didn't. He agreed to consider it and now he's gone.>Even if it's not officialIf they aren't officially ours, then we have no claim. Full stop.
>>963912>>963922>>963935>>963938But the word of the Hokage sure as fuck does. And I believe he said we could have them after the exams after we had proven ourselves. I think killing an S rank ninja, saving another jinchurichi, saving Minato's fucking family, and helping seal the 9 tails, which, by doing so, saved the whole fucking village, qualifies us to get our fucking swords. And like another anon said, anyone with any amount of power that knows are name and what we done are not going to say a damn thing about it.Get fucked.
If we are helping someone get elected and then they tell us they aren't giving us the swords. Just remind them whose father backed them up and is a major economic player in Konoha, and it would be a real shame if he had to look into other markets to make his income with Konoha being wrecked
There is literally no problem with just going up and asking.
>>963938Except itachi, who would.Like i just said, he'd know the story behind it and what our deal was.And if we don't have any claim, then fucking NOBODY DOESWhy are you trying so goddamn hard not to get these swords?What fucking reason could there possibly be for you not to want them this much?>>963940This.
>>963935>If not us, they'd go back to the mizukage or whoever the fuck owned them last.>And that's dumb.why? We don't own them.>>963940We can't prove he promised them to us, nor can we prove we killed one of the Akatsuki.
>>963952We can though, we have the ring and arm of a member.>>963940>>963951Or the person that has been watching over them will keep watching over them. Stop trying to insist it is Tsuki's god given right to Kiba.>>963950I almost don't want to to watch this one anon explode, but mostly we have more important things to do.
>>963952Oh my god.You are such a dumb cunt.It's dumb because they're powerful, and because you don't want to give away powerful weapons to OTHER VILLAGES when your village just got FUCKING DESTROYED AND YOU COULD BE USING THEM YOURSELFYOU. DUMB. CUNT.
>>963940He said to ask him again after the exams.That isn't a committal by any stretch.>>963950This is true. But don't be surprised if he says "No".
>>963959And why wouldn't they just give them to someone older and more experienced?
>>963957Doesn't mean we killed them.>>963959See>>963963They'd be more useful in Kakashi's hands or someone else's gear.
>>963952Further, ONCE AGAIN, itachi knows about all of this, and he and danzo both can vouch for us. They are currently the ones with the most power in konoha.And yes we can prove it, we have deidara's hand and ring.You aren't even fucking paying attention to this quest, are you?>>963957Possession is nine-tenths of the ninja law.They're ours, don't you fucking try to tell me otherwise.>>963963That's why we're going to go get them before the new hokage gets instated and decides that very thing.>>963966We had about half a dozen witnesses watch us cut off his fucking head.
>>963966But they wont work anywhere near as well in anyone else's hands but our own because of our now publicly known stellar release. Other older ninja would be much more skilled with them, but they would never be as good with them as we can be. That's why we should press our claim for the swords.
>>963975Itachi and Danzo don't have much power in the village.Plus, nobody saw us kill him. All they saw was the big explosion.I don't understand why you can't remember this, Anon.
>>963963>And why wouldn't they just give them to someone older and more experienced?Call it an investment giving it to the girl with the badass new Release.But seriously all you niggers are doing are throwing around assumptions and speculation.When we have a chance just fucking ask officially with Itachi by our side. Until then stop arguing over whose assumption is better.
>>963959Nobody has any right to access the magical bullshit swords without the current village leader's express permission, and the village leader isn't here anymore.That doesn't mean we don't need his permission, it means nobody gets to access the magic swords because nobody's there to give permission.>>963979This is probably the most reasonable thing to do.
>>963979I won't stop arguing when that one anon is such a fuck head about it.
>>963975You seem to assume nobody is watching them.>>963979I mean yeah, we can put our name in the hat for when the new Hokage is decided.
>>963978Let me frame this for you, you stupid cocksucker.We were on the roof of our mansion with our father, Fuu, choji, shikamaru and some randoms.We ran directly at him and cut his head off.He body swole up.We told everyone to run.THEN he blew up.Everyone saw it.>>963983No, we don't need the permission of a person that doesn't exist to collect the equipment we fulfilled that dead person's requirements to access them after collecting them personally from the crater of a person who is also now dead.>>963986Are you literally saying that you're just arguing against my points because i'm an ass?Fuck off.
>>963997I'm arguing because you are acting like an idiot who knows he is 100% right. But I should probably stop because you refuse to think the other side has any good point.
>>963997>Let me frame this for you, you stupid cocksucker.
>>964001That's right, i don't think you have good points, that's why i'm arguing against them.Not because i think you're an ass, or because you're a dumb motherfucker, but because i legitimately believer you're wrong and making the wrong choice.
>>964008>I don't think you are dumb>Literally calling people stupid every post
>>963997>fulfilled that dead person's requirementsWe did everything he asked for to be considered.But there is a world of difference between being considered for something and being chosen for something. One that I'm sure the guy in charge of keeping the blades safe would explain to you again if you tried to get Tsuki to make that same argument.
Guys. Cut the salt till the after thread.
Gods above- everyone please, cool your tempers. It's difficult to write when everyone is flinging salt and shit at each other.I ask nicely.
>>964017We need Rare Tsuns, Tsukis and Hinatas. Maybe even Fuus
>>964031how about 10/10s?
Let's talk about something nice, normal artfag here, I'm brain storming part 2 outfits and hair, share ideas or picture ideas/requests in general. I'll see what I can do
>>964037Four Mask on Tsuki's hip, one for each beast.
Also here have an implied lewd. People chill.
>>964037I really liked that one with her wearing a flame-patterned coat.
>>964055>getting rid of the hair drills
>>964031>Not wanting KonansPleb
For general info, the drills are staying so long as im drawing Tsuki, come hell or high water the drills shall remain
>>964031>>964065You anons are playing with fire.>>964070Good man
>>964070How about AkaTsuki?
>>964076That's more of a fun non-canon thing though
>>964070Outfit like this maybe?
>>964078Oh come on her hair needs washing from time to time anon, don't bully. Though I recall Wargle once saying we can bully Artpal into drawing
>>964065paper cut.>>964059Too pure for this world.
>>964080How about Little girl Tsuki in a way too big Akatsuki robe and hat?
>>964037busty christmas cake Tsuki
>>964091Whats a christmas cake anon?
>>964092Women over the age of 25 that are unmarried
>>964088That would be fucking adorable.What were the young AkaTsuki snippets?>follows around Zetsu with a watering can to make sure he gets enough water>tries to imitate Kisame's boisterous laughterI don't remember the rest.
>>964099>Helps uncle Kakuzu count his money>Learns how to make origami with Aunt Konan>Uncle Sasori puts on little puppet shows for her>Uncle Diedara make fireworks for us>Hide and seek with Uncle TobiThere was a lot more