Welcome back, UJCIDF Special Catnip Remover Division, to the sixty-eigth installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest. I'm Wong, your host, and today you are Lieutenant Amos A. Wedge of the United Jovian Colonies Independent Defense Force, Special Operations Units & Logistics Squad C, currently in deep trouble with his girlfriend.Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mechahttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20QuestMaster Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmFUpgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZeList of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2yRogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfGBrazilia's Kawaii Space Jam Gallery: http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWSLast time, your patrol was interrupted by a mysterious challenger who fell from space in a ball of fire. Although it ended in a draw that left your mech unable to fight, the worst was yet to come, as an emergency communication from the ship revealed that a large cell of native insurgents disguised as extremely cute maids had taken over the ship. You and your friend Garret devised a clever plan, donning power armor and pleading mechanical failure to avoid being taken prisoner with the rest, while stowing away in Simon's mech's storage compartment to infiltrate the ship unattended. Once there, a combination of stealth and brute force proved too much for the Qu'liri to handle, but now you and your emancipated crew face a new threat, in the form of the Avalonian ace who beat up your Pumpkinseed II and two dozen elite huscarls.Worst of all, you hung up on your girlfriend, then put her into a conference call with the Avalonian leader. The only thing sparing you is the fact that he is an extremely convenient outlet for her spleen.
AWAKEN MY KESTRELS!
Fair warning, this is going to be a fairly short segment, probably done by midnight.
>>894376>"Seriously, i know that everyone is getting emotinal and everything too, but lets face it, all this "Shoot your hostages an i'm shooting my hostages", getting random local people into the conflict, using traitors... And then dueling and talking about honor like nothing as happened, SERIOUSLY, this got in my nerves already, we both know that we've have gone too far and this isn't the things that we went here to fight for, this is nothing like the thing that both of us say to our people and isn't anything like the stories of glory and honor that i grew up hearing and that you guys seem to love too... Nobody more got to die, lets just correct this mess and go each of us into our merry way, look,instead of pointing guns to unharmed people and demand surrender, lets just end this okay? I'm sure that you are anxious to be reunited with your bride, and i'm just as dying to have mine in my arms."At least two guys were backing this last thread.
>>894376It's time to land this ship, with no casualties.
>>894396In what timezone?
>>894399If you are going to use your post, include the one that came before. The one a lot more people agreed to.
Irina's voice drops down significantly in volume, it's actually scarier. You keep quiet, somewhat in awe of her sheer rage."I'm so tired of you." She tells him, "I'm tired of being unsafe around our own allies, of the constant treachery, the betrayal, the spying and ambushes, of having to look constantly over my shoulder when I should be enjoying a date with Amos...but you know, none of that would bother me so much if you didn't pretend you were better than us, that you were born better, that you're more honorable when you're stabbing us in the back.”You and he both sigh at the same time, but he speaks first, “I know.” He says, “I don't like it either. This isn't the kind of fight I wanted, it isn't the kind of fight any of us wanted...except Count Ford of the Gerin and he's a monster in his own right and would probably prefer to burn you all at the stake. This wasn't my idea, I didn't even want the kittens to get involved, but if it's for the sake of the woman I love I'll sacrifice everything in this galaxy.”An idea strikes you, “So you're here for her, then, Dame Wayland?”[Continued]
>>894417Repost it, if you'd be so kind?
>>894439Here you go. Use how you see fit. 'You want your fiance, fine. Get off the ship and tell us who the traitor is. We will get the right for the Paladin on fair terms with proper machines. Otherwise it becomes a race of who can get to their goals first and if I reach the bridge, then we go down and this get worse for everyone. You get your love, I secure the ship properly, save civilians who were dragged into this thanks to your helper, and we can do this whole thing nobly or what have you.'
>>894439Wong, could you please awnser a question for me?First, in case of a missile spamm causing multiple crits... Do you roll more than one time in the crit table?Second, if a target doesn't have a "Other" servo and you roll that in the random hit location, what happen? Do you roll again?And what you hit it with missile spam? Do you jump to the next(Special location) or roll that one missile again?
“Of course. What, you thought I was married to the Duchess? By the Lady, no. She's well-preserved, but...she's a bit old for me.” He laughs wryly.Irina cuts in, but it doesn't sound like she's talking to either of you until she addresses you personally, “Stop scowling. Amos, spooky is pretending like she can hear what you're both saying, this mystic nonsense is really making me want to shoot her.”“I assume you have her in a cell. Trust me when I say it would be a very bad idea to open it.” The Avalonian man comments.“Especially because once you've shot her, our entire bridge crew and commanding officer will have a life expectancy of minutes.” You add. “Including your friend Martha and the Captain.”“Amos, don't take his side!” She snaps, “You're still in trouble with me!”“Not as much trouble as you'll be in with me if the Duchess separates you from your gun and takes you prisoner.” You reply, before addressing the Avalonian, “Sir...I'm sorry, I don't know your name.” Although you recall mention of a Sir Hector.“Hector Van Damme, at your service.” He responds.“A pleasure to meet you.” Good manners, your grandpa was wont to say, cost nothing to anybody, “You know, you and Dame Wayland both managed to work over one of my mecha, I'm sure once you're back together that's something you'll both be able to laugh about.”[Continued]
“I don't intend to see the inside of a cell any time soon, Sir Amos. I know you think we don't have enough men, but we've all abandoned our fear of death.” He warns you.“That doesn't mean a man who's getting married should rush towards it.” You protest, “Look, the way things are going, a lot of people on both sides are going to get killed. I don't want anyone important to me to die, and neither should you. What would Elizabeth say?” “Mmmph.” He grunts noncommittally. “I think it would be a little sharper than that.” You shrug, “I have an idea. We declare a temporary truce, we both go to the bridge and convince...what's her name, Palmtree?”“Palmyra.” He corrects you.“Palmyra. We go to the bridge, you tell her to stand down, and you take Dame Wayland with you and just...just go.” You think you're being quite reasonable.“Amos!” Irina protests.“Bloodlust isn't going to do us any good, honey. So long as we still have the Paladin the brass will probably say losing one enemy officer in exchange for keeping several of ours alive is a fair trade.” You feel like you're fighting two enemies at once.“She's nodding.” Irina growls, “And she wants me to repeat...and she could stand to be a lot more respectful with these requests...that she finds this acceptable. She actually looks smug. Is this something they teach Paladins? Are they all crazy, stuck-up, insufferable witches?”Sir Hector grunts, “Let's just say there are a lot of differing viewpoints among our Paladins and leave it at that. My lord and teacher, the honorable Duke Eustace de Rothschild-Beauchamps of the Oliver, sees but seldom eye to eye with Duchess Carnegie, but she is the liege-lady of my betrothed, so...”“I understand.” You do, at least sort of.[Continued]
>>894484I feel his pain...
“Could you kindly hand your comm to the Duchess, if possible? I would fain hear her orders before agreeing to what I would denounce as an obvious trap from anyone with a less impeccable reputation. The Blue Knight is highly thought of, as Gas Knights go. Certainly you are no Sir Merrow, Amos Wedge.” It sounds like a compliment from his tone.“I'll give her my PC through the food-tray slot, but if she doesn't give it back I'll hold you responsible.” Irina grumps. There's a rustling sound, and then the eerily smooth voice of the Paladin, “Sir Van Damme, do not think I did not hear you fail to defend mine honor, but as you simply reflect the ignorant skepticism of your liege-lord as a moon reflects its sun's light, I shall allow it to pass unchallenged. Do as the boy says. I am quite comfortable here, moreso than I would be in Count Ford's company, and I feel no fear for my life. Unlike your master, I believe completely in the Lady, and that she has a plan for me, and that my purpose is not yet expended. These solars are petty creatures, but fond of their pomp.” You must have made some sound of disbelief at an AVALONIAN, particularly one who pilots the Berenger, talking about pomp, because her voice becomes much sharper, “Silence, Blue Knight. As I was saying, they will not simply kill me out of hand, but in front of an audience as large as possible in a show of strength. So long as I endure, my mission continues, and my mission is better served here on the ship bearing the Jovian princeling than it is huddled in the jungle awaiting the awakening of the horror that sleeps below this world. Take your lover, and go forth, I shall do my utmost to attend thy wedding.”You hear him gulp slightly, "Yes...yes your excellency. It shall be done. Ah, Sir Amos, what is to be the fate of the girls who stole your ship?""I'll release them in exchange for the identity of the person who has been leaking information to you. You're a man of honor, I know you don't like the thought of a traitor getting away with their crimes any more than I do." You decide. [Continued]
>>894568>than it is huddled in the jungle awaiting the awakening of the horror that sleeps below this worldCathhulu sleeps
>>894579Let it sleep, it's a cat. Give it a scratching post, a giant catnip mouse, a paper bag, and a box that stored a cat bed and it should be fine for the next millenia.
>>894559The one on his back for forgotting to strech before putting the armor...Hahahahahaha.I mean... It is a big pain when the people you are involved with has problematic company... I was in this situation some years ago.And is kind of funny that Amos and Hector have this same problem.
>>894579>>894589>An ancient cutie has awoken!
>post yfw some martian mook drops an incendiary device into the paladin's cell one day because fuckass mad over many comrades' deaths and ALLAHU ACKBAR I'm honestly surprised no one has been killed when they were imprisoned by some person who wouldn't let go of a grudge or a sense of duty.
>>894590Even in the future, inlaws will be a thing many sane people will dread.
>>894457>>894568Wong, could you awnser this for me? i feel that you're going to forgot this comment in some minutes.
>>894613Might be a good idea to wait until after the stuff is over. It looks like he's going for the blitz so we don't have a week long cliff hanger.
>>894613Roll it again, and yes, you roll multiple times on the crit table. Missiles are kind of a high risk, high reward strategy.
>>894632Wait... So if i roll a 5, for example, it would hit the arms, the legs, RANDOM ROLL and Special?Or do you prefer to roll everything? And we houserule that we should roll for each missile that hit? It would make more sense than the official rule, thats for certain, but could be pretty fatal in some cases (Like if you hit 5 shots of 3K missile in someone's torso.)
“As for the Palmyra girl, that fool has been a disappointment. She should never have allowed Garret Luxol out of her sight, and she should never have executed her plan so poorly. I do not think I could contain my displeasure, were I free to do so. Sir Van Damme, please express my distaste when you see her. I do not desire her death at this time, so perhaps the butt of your blade or the back of your hand will do.” She continues.“I'm sorry, your excellency, I didn't quite catch that last part, I'm afraid there was some static over the line.” The knight responds stiffly.“I told you to hit her. She has made a tremendous annoyance of herself.” The Paladin repeats.“There it is again! Sir Wedge, did you sneeze or something? I think I got the gist, your excellency, you want me to give her a firm talking-to.”“No, I want-” The Paladin insists.“Kssshshhhttthsshh!” Hector makes an indescribable mouth sound, sort of like static if you're half-deaf, “Kssssshh! Oh, I'm sorry, your excellency, I can't hear you at all. See you at the bridge, Sir Wedge, I'll think about that last condition you made on the way there.” He terminates the call.“You, Blue Knight, tell him to give that psychotic little beast a proper thrashi-” She tries you next, to no avail.“Kssssh ksssh kssssh! Wow, this PC's connection is terrible, just terrible!” You're a bit more shameless than Hector Van Damme and don't quite try as hard, "Tell Irina I love her and that I have to go. I'm hanging up on you, not her!" You feel important to make that distinction as you terminate the call and begin leading your impromptu force first to the armory, then the bridge.[Continued]
Oh, i think i just found a survivor of the Great Sideral War.
>>894710...Dammit, I don't WANT to like Hector as much as you're quickly making me...
>>894710>tfw Amos didn't just flat out tell her to fuck off and hang upSome hero he is.
>>894745>Not wanting to punch the old loli in the face for being a psicotic weirdo.Seriously?
>>894745No point in being blunt, and denying her in this way probably pisses her off more than a flat insult. It's one thing to deny an order, it's another to do so in such a transparent way and not even listening.
>>894732In war you'll find that there aren't that many real bastards, just a bunch of men and women trying to get home and not get shot.Some of them might have drank the Koolaid and belive the propaganda, but the smart fucks know that the brass doesn't give a fuck if they live or die as long as the objective is complete.If you gotta fudge the rules a bit to make sure you and yours gets out of the mission alive then that's what you do.If you can complete enough of your objectives to cover your ass afterwards, then you're fucking golden.
>>894782Gonna have to shake hector's hand before he departs. Perhaps we'll meet under less trying circumstances in the future.
You expect a lot more drama than there actually turns out to be. As your crewmates, many of whom have never fired a weapon at a living target before, finger their arms and stare nervously at the much smaller yet perfectly disciplined troop of power-armored warriors, you and Sir Hector clasp forearms in a Roman handshake, although he doesn't quite seem to get it at first and tries to grab your hand instead. Eventually, a sour-looking Irina arrives with a few MPs and a handcuffed Dame Wayland in tow, “Well? What are you waiting for?” “Hector! Oh, my Hector, you came for me!” Dame Wayland's eyes light up, “Hector!”“Liza!” He roars happily.“Hector!”“Liza!”“Hector!”“Liza!”“Heeeeector!”“Liza~” “Oh Hector~” Dame Wayland tugs herself away from the restraining grip Irina has on her forearm and runs over to him. They embrace, him picking her up by the waist, lifting her into the air, and spinning in a circle, both of them laughing. At last, she settles down, “But what of Duchess Carnegie?”Sir Van Damme lowers his head in faint embarassment, “Alas, I have failed. My mission was foiled by Sir Wedge and the Jovian prince. Had their scheme not transpired, my worthies and I would have faced only scattered opposition and retaking you both would have been easily. Thankfully, your mistress generously forgave me and bid me take you and depart.”“I wish people would stop calling me a prince.” Garret remarks, “Our system doesn't work that way and it's a little insulting to say it does.”“The Jovian known formerly as a prince.” Hector corrects himself, prompting Garret to cover his own visor with one hand and sigh in despair.[Continued]
>>894862>The Jovian formerly known as princeMy.. my sides. You mega crit my sides Wong.
>>894862>"Meh, just let them call you that, it makes you look cooler anyway... And don't you ever dreamed of being a prince charming on a white horse and shining armor?*Smug smile*"
>>894884His Soul Machine has to have a huge gun that fires purple ammunition>Purple Rain on that Avalonian position!
>>894666Guys,can anyone awnser me in this regard?
>>894893Least he's not born under a cursed star this time. Don't think Biggs and Wedge can pull off a Char.
>>894898I'll answer everything in the time between this session and the next one if nobody beats me to it.
You spot Irina, still scowling, shooting you a sideways glance. You take off your helmet, hand it to Simon, and give her a big, cheerful grin, “Irina!” You hold your arms out, hoping she'll get in the spirit.Her scowl deepens.“Irina!” You hold them out again, your smile unflagging.Her lips quiver, then she snorts and reaches up to caress your cheek, “How can I stay angry at this face?” She kisses your cheek. Mission accomplished.Garret grumbles, crossing his arms, as two of Hector's braves cut Marilyn loose, one getting his head rattled as she slaps him across the visor.“That's for staring at my butt the whole way up here, pervert.” She sticks her tongue out and saunters over to your group, rubbing her arms to restore circulation in them. “I'm glad you're alright.” Garret tells her, “The only reason I was quiet on the way here was because Amos was talking with the guys that grabbed you.”“I know.” She says with a smile, her ears tilting forward slightly.“I wanted to charge off and rescue you, but that wouldn't have been very smart, this gun causes a lot of collateral damage.” He pats the stock of his M-2.“I know.” Her tail swishes behind her, a soft purring sound behind her voice.[Continued]
>>894924Ok, i can wait.
>>894936Man, I feel sorry for the traitor right now. Probably wondering why they aren't killing one another if he had a video feed somehow.
>>894970He's gonna be wondering a lot less when we shove a size 12 boot so far up his ass he'll taste leather in the back of his throat.
>>894986Oh I have plans for the bugger if possible. Something simple, but satisfying. Just going to wait to see if it's viable.
>>895025Not quite. How familiar are you with Readying a action, the rules for aiming, and villainous monologues?
>>894986i say we let him breath vacuum
>>895037not at all.The mekton zeta rules confuse me and i've not rectified this problem.
>>895057Well, turns are about 10 seconds each. One action you can take is aim, which gives you a plus one to hit the target you are aiming at. If he starts to monologue, start taking aim actions until he reaches the peak. Then spend all our luck to give him enough needles to sleep for a day. Then we can do the standard stuff, like interrogation, dealing with traitors, or even trussing him up and sending him to Fairchild.
You and Hector look each other in the eye. You speak first, “What matters more, a traitor's life, or the lives of the natives who helped you get your wife back?” You notice the roving squads of maids seem to have been brought to heel, a dozen or so peeking out from behind Hector's own troops. He looks at them too, then sighs, “You drive a hard bargain. I'm sure that man will be angry about this, but it was a young woman. I think her name was Marcia. No, was it Marsha? Ah, no, now I remember, it was...”“Martha. Martha Blume.” Irina's voice is steely.Hector nods, “That was her name, Martha.”You look at the door to the bridge, “How are we doing this?”Hector chuckles, “Allow me, consider it a service.” He taps the buzzer on the door, “Sir Hector Van Damme. Open up, kittens.”The door opens, and he's greeted with a chorus of enthusiastic mews as he and his braves march inside in lockstep. Meanwhile, Irina removes Wayland's cuffs, her movements mechanical and precisely deliberate. Her face is as blank as a mask after the recent revelation. The mewing turns to wailing as, moments later, the power-armored troops return, each carrying at least one Qu'liri woman over their shoulders, and several holding two. Hector himself has the fourears tucked under his arm like a farmer carrying a small pig, her legs thrashing as she tries to hit him with her cane, “Stop! Stop! This is betrayal! How can you do this, Sir Hector!? Are you not our ally? Were we not embarking on a glorious revolution together?” Seen like this, she almost seems pathetic.“We lost, Palmyra.” He says, less sadly than would perhaps have been appropriate, “The Blue Knight beat us in the end, now my only concern is saving and protecting my allies.”“But we haven't painted this ship with the blood of normies yet!” She howls, kicking all the harder. He shifts his grip to compensate, “What a shame.” He doesn't sound sorry at all, “Are you abandoning the Duchess? You coward! You callow boy! Give me back my pistol, I'll rescue her myself!” She really is on the verge of tears.“She herself ordered us to depart.” Hector turns towards you, “Sir Wedge, we put the ship on autopilot, it should land shortly. Congratulations on your heroic victory.” He passes by, giving you a clear view of the room inside, of the freed bridge crew rubbing circulation back into their limbs and Captain Clearwater sighing regretfully after the maids. Your eyes meet Martha's, and the hate in them gives way to terror as she realizes that you know.>[Time for a reckoning]
>>895064>Let Irina confront her
>>895064as expected but i was hoping it would not be.She'll be seeing the inside of a brig for a long time.>>895063Huh.
>>895064Right then, you have some splaining to do and you are going to do it right in front of Irina. You better make it good for getting innocents involved in this entire thing.
>>895064>Captain Clearwater sighing regretfully after the maids.I feel bad for the Captain
>>894862>“I wish people would stop calling me a prince.” Garret remarks, “Our system doesn't work that way and it's a little insulting to say it does.”well buddy, you are the son of an Oligarch.
>>895113I dont think the maids are going to stop going after the captain even after this.And I doubt he'd stop them.
>>895076Seconded.She won't give a fuck if we do it because in her eyes we've always been the enemy.Irina on the other hand, well she worships the ground she walks on, so if Irina says something you can bet your ass it'll mean a hell of a lot more.
Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)>>895064> dart her
>>895064>Let Irina handle itNothing we could ever say would hurt her like a single reprimand from Irina's lips.And if Irina chooses to baby her for some reason which i doubt well just give her the by the books traitor treatment which in sure is what she deserves.
>>895153good thing we kept our gun
>>895181She will be kept alive for her information and to get as many of her plants and tricks dealt with. We then send her to Fairchild which is now a fate worse than death for her.
You look at Irina. Irina looks at you. Without asking, she grabs the telescoping shock baton off your belt.“No...no...no Irina, please, no!” Martha has never struck you as a brave person. She shrinks back from Irina's approaching shadow, one hand held out as if trying to ward her off.“You put this entire ship in danger.” Irina's voice is clinical, rigidly controlled.“I...I did it for you! Irina, it was all for you, all of it!” Martha's voice shakes, “I swear! I didn't want to see your work go unappreciated again! It wasn't fair what Bahamutcorp did to you and...and I couldn't have them just abandon you on this filthy backwater!”Irina flicks her wrist, extending the baton, “You put all of us in danger. You sold us all out.”Martha sobs, her back hitting the monitor as she tries to scuttle backwards away from the approaching scientist, “It's all the stupid mandrake's fault for not growing! You were getting so angry and so sad because it wasn't responding and then...and so...” She shudders, “I only contacted the Paladin so you could get a better sample! I-I thought if you had a mature one...I thought if you had a mature one, you wouldn't need it to grow! I just...I was just so tired of seeing you unappreciated! You're a genius, a real one, but nobody ever recognized it but me!” “That's classified information, Martha.” Irina turns on the shock baton, with a crackling hiss of electricity. The Captain stands up, starting to move between the two women.Martha shrieks, “I-I was blackmailed this time! The four-eared one said if I didn't help her she'd tell the Captain what I did.” She looks at you with a mixture of terror and rage, “Damn you! Damn you! If YOU hadn't come here, it would never have started growing! The mandrake only responded after you seduced her for your own ends, you piece of filth! I know you're behind this, you just want me out of the way!”The Captain looks down at Martha with a sorrowful expression, sighs, and straightens his collar, “I shouldn't see where this is going. Pardon me, I need to use the lavatory.” He nods to Irina and walks off the bridge, gesturing for the rest of the bridge crew to follow him.Martha smiles, with almost a kind of mad hope, the delusional calmness beyond fear, in her eyes, “I just wanted you to need me, the way I need you.”[Continued]
>>895201waste of resources. we have plenty of guns, and plenty of jungle to dump the remains in.
>>895234Oh this is gonna end in tears and broken psyches.Brace yourselves for Yandere breakdown.
>>895234>The mandraketime to get the flamethrowers boys, got some weeds to burn.
>>895239the leftover Green Men Tech Irinas growing in her bathroom. The one Bahamutcorp's trying to get their hands on to make mechs with bio reactors.
>>895234>Mash X to hit>Me: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>>895254Dont think their going to be much of a break down after Irina beats the shit out of her.
>>895239I.. think those are the buds for the bio platforms the greenman used. It would explain a lot and if they used them as a basis for a user safe mecha, then you can get machines that can heal, have biocores, and can be grown.Forget SOUL, this place is important because it can make PALADIN class mechs!>>895263Don't think we can if we wanted to. This is likely another case of 'Bahamut corp gots Irina by the balls'. This is also one of those situations where we have to soldier on and be a good role model for Irina in hopes that this tech doesn't end badly.
>>895269Prolly responds to her emotions
"I'm sorry, Martha." Irina says calmly."I-Irina please, it's okay. You don't have to apologize. Now, now we can finally be together! You understand all the pain and fear I went through for you!" Tears run down Martha's cheeks."I should have had you arrested as soon as I caught you poking around in my room. You would have been punished and reassigned, but it wouldn't have ended up like this." A thin ribbon of regret in Irina's voice swells into a thick tint of sorrow, "I am so, so sorry. In every way, I truly have been an awful friend to you." She smiles, so sadly it breaks your heart."Irina..." Martha murmurs through her sobs.Irina places the tip of the baton against Martha's breastbone, the dark-haired woman twitching and jerking spastically with a muffled squeal of pain before she falls limp to the floor. Irina deactivates the baton, and tosses it to the floor, speaking in a quiet, lifeless voice, "Take her away, lock her up next to the Paladin. I don't ever want to see her again." She addresses the MPs without looking at them, walking past like a zombie. She grabs your arm, and looks up at you, wordlessly pleading for you to follow her. So you do. The two of you walk down the corridor away from the bridge, leaving the others behind to get the female crew members' rooms unlocked, land the ship, and ferry the unconscious Qu'liri prisoners from the brig and the cargo bay off with Hector and his people. You walk until nobody else is around, and then Irina turns towards you, her eyes shining with tears. You put your arms around her, and she collapses into them, sobbing.[Continued]
>>895297Odd that it didn't grow when she had her other boyfriend though. This thing is possibly growing due to Amos.
>>895297makes since, thats how Rothschild uses his. >>895294You do realize that Gendo Ikari is the CEO of Bahamutcorp, right?
>>895324One of the head scientists it seems, but likely not him. Not even sure if he's alive. Either way, this is sort of the worse situation to do that. Bahamut corp is holding the majority of Jupiter's mech production lines. Messing with them will endanger a ton of lives along with our own and Irina's.This is a case where we are a Soldier who must do what he is told after seeing through a crack in pandora's box. How ironic, that the one who brings the best out of such a possible thing is a Farmboy.
>>895354Why would we want to fight them? Bio reactors would remove the one tech advantage Avalon has on the SSL. sure the cultivation and production might fuck over the locals but fuck'em we got better things to do
>>895321It seems to like Amos... And thats why he will get his own Paladin...But what if she is possessive about him? What happens when the mech learns how to comunicate?Pray that it doesn't get to this point.Oh, and the Elder One is a Mandrake that grew out of control... If he got as far as that fungus who is the biggest living being on earth... Then it is too large to be killed with anything less lethal than a TEMINATUS or spore bombing.
>>895382Then we are on agreement there. Either way, Irina deserves our comfort and support. This is a trying time for her.
>>895382>Is going around the galaxy "recovering" ex-CUSS planets.>Finds the infame neko-planet>"LOL, look at this kittens! They are too kaeai to be left alone, they will be better in our hands".>knows that your absurd presence there will atract avalon, but discovers that elder one is sleeping and decides to stay anyway.>Buy some politicans, scare some others into gelping you and force the rest in at least getting out of your way because now Avalon is at their door and they can't protect themself against the enemy you called to their doorstep.>Doesn't matter, you would have taken control anyway.>Lets Corporations and allies of the state do a bunch of shady things like taking land by force, while you let the martians go crazy on the locals because otherwise they wouldn't help you.>Blames Avalon by everything that doesn't go to your way, and shit-talk them by doing almost everything that you are already doing.>" sure the cultivation and production might fuck over the locals but fuck'em we got better things to do."Typical solar abbo.
>>895431How's that second place treating you when you couldn't take control of a ship handed to you on a silver platter, shrub stuffer?
>>895431Hey man, you can't forge an empire without killing a few kittens. just ask Peter Wiggin.
>>895431>Solar Jewsabbo's died in the Great Shitposting War against the Aussie Elite Forces
>>895472You mean, the day when a rebel cell of locals did all our job for us, and made the scared ship crew give us an Ace back for free after another of our aces deafeted two of the UJCIDF elite squad alone while the third of them watched in fear? And that ended with no casualities to our side and many neko maids in our laps?I wouldn't call that a second place... MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!>>895482Thats why all empires are evil, you can't justificate anything when you are killing kittens!>>895491That is what the jews want you to believe!
You hold her as she cries. It feels like a long time, but it probably isn't more than a few minutes of intense, racking sobs before she recovers herself and straightens up, “I'm a mess.” She mumbles.“You're still beautiful when you cry, you know.” You inform her, in the way men inform women of things when they're trying to support them, even when they know it isn't helping. She sniffles noncommittally.“About this mandrake thing, it's something I won't ask about. Like I promised, I won't poke my nose where it doesn't belong. As far as I'm concerned, she was just ranting.” Although you are wildly, wildly curious.Much to your surprise, she shakes her head, and takes you by the hand, “Let's go, they should have the room locks fixed by now. It's time I showed you, anyway, it won't be a secret for very much longer.” She takes you to the room that used to be hers and now is shared by both of you. It's not a long walk, she's got enough clout to have her suite of rooms in a coveted location without much of a trek to the lift. Once there, she goes to the locked door that you've never seen inside, and opens her left eye wide for the retinal scanner. The scanner beeps approvingly, and a small section of wall moves aside to reveal a compact keyboard. She types in a complex, overly long password, and the door slides aside with a hiss.It's bright inside. Bright lights set in the middle of rank after rank of rotary hydroponic arrays sting your eyes, and you breathe in a faintly minty, pungent scent. The room is huge, it looks like Irina decided to just use one room of her rather large suite and convert the rest into a hydroponic garden. You recognize the shape of the leaves, and look skeptically at Irina, “Cannabis?”She looks mildly ashamed, “Don't tell anyone. Marilyn and I started this together to make some extra money. I grow it, she sells it.”You cross your arms, “You're selling drugs to the locals.” It isn't a question.She sputters, “And some of the crew! Look, Amos, it's not as if it's illegal.”“Are you paying the appropriate tax on it?” You inquire.[Continued]
>>895521yeah, but thats the thing. We don't have to justify victory. and it's Green Men tech thats gonna kill them, not proper Jovian soldiers fighting to bring freedom to the people of the galaxy.
>>895545Well, whoever said they were growing drugs managed to win that bet. Guess catnip doesn't do it for the locals.>>895521Whatever you say Sap Sucker.
>>895545Is Irina part Canadian?
>>895566Likely Rural then. Doesn't say sorry a dozen times and doesn't give in when Martians or Cat-people do shit. Bloody Toronto and Vancouver.
Her gaze shifts away from yours, “Don't worry about that.” She frowns, “Look, growing up, I was never showered with praise like my sister was. She had her voice and her looks and her glamour to make her money. I was just plain Irina, Rosita's little sister, and if I wanted to make my way in the world I had to do it the hard way. I was always good with plants and took care of the family garden, it wasn't hard to buy some seeds and start selling unlicensed marijuana to the local kids, even for a fourteen-year-old girl. I got beaten up and robbed a few times, but that's life on some of the more densely populated colonies. Don't judge me, this isn't what I brought you here for anyway.” She grabs your arm and leads you deeper into her private greenhouse. Emerald light swims around you as she leads you all the way to the back, where numerous sunlamps create a column of golden illumination around...something honestly rather difficult for you to describe. At first glance, it looks like a vine floating in a glass tank, but on a second glance you can tell that it's clearly the root structure of some plant. It's white and rubbery, with several main strands descending from a tiny tuft of bluish-green leaves sticking out through a hole at the top of the tank, each of the strands sprouting many smaller hairs. All in all, the root structure is about as large as you are, and creepily...it has a shape that looks almost like a twisted caricature of a bipedal human form. Just looking at it makes you uneasy somehow.Irina speaks softly, “That, Amos, is a mandrake. THE mandrake, really, the first one whose growth we've had the chance to study.”“I still don't get it.” You say slowly, with the impending sense that something here is very, very sinister and you're just not grasping it.[Continued]
>>895559It isn't all about winning anon, it doesn't matter if you just lose everything just after it because everyone thinks that you are evil and now that your enemies are gone they don't have any more motive to let you go around doing what you want...>>895563Whatever you say Fart Inhaler.
>>895656Oh hoh, think you can best me in finding ways to say that you fornicate with foliage, log lover?
>>895636>Because mandrakes contain deliriant hallucinogenic tropane alkaloids and the shape of their roots often resembles human figureSpace drugs son
>>895692or making a Not!Person>Would you like to make a Mandragora, as powerful as the homunculus
>>895707Congratulations Amos, you're a papa.
She sighs and tucks an errant lock of her hair behind her ear, “The first time we managed to wound a Paladin, it was with a superweapon codenamed Megabass, the particulars of which I'm not technically supposed to talk about even if it's not a perfect secret. The Paladins Gerard and Anseis ambushed a convoy the Megabass was escorting, and it retaliated along with its escort mecha. The Anseis killed a Lieutenant using an early iteration of the plasma sabers from project Skywalker, stole his weapon, and managed to escape safely. The Gerard lost an arm and a leg before it realized it was outmatched on sheer firepower and retreated.”“Why did I never hear about this?” You ask, frowning.“Because discussing the Megabass in the official PR is verboten, the brass believes it would make the public nervous. Besides, it wasn't a real victory, people on our side died and both Paladins successfully evaded capture. Anyway, the debris from the Gerard was brought on board almost immediately, were dissected, and that was when a remarkable discovery was made.” She looks up at the mandrake, floating in its tank, “The Paladins are alive.” She touches the glass, “At least, their core control system and power source is. What you're seeing here is essentially a larval Paladin. Now, as powerful as they are, we've come to the conclusion that they're a pale, wan shadow of the Green Men's bio-armor themselves, on their own they would be completely useless...but hooked into a system modified from our own HMIS, and effectively cyborgized with armor and support structures protecting it, and proper weapons given to it, it's still quite lethal. You scratched the Berenger's heart with that missile, Amos, and it's only just now properly healing the damage.” She taps on the glass with her fingertips, “Miraculously, some of the Gerard's mandrake was still alive, the survivors of the ambush took the debris onto the ship immediately, like I said. A bud was found on it that was surgically extracted and preserved. It was assigned as a project to me, and ever since, I've been trying to get it to grow.” She has a ghostly smile on her face, the mandrake reflected in her eyes, “You know, when you arrived, it wasn't any bigger than my smallest finger. Look at it now. Soon, this room won't be able to hold it anymore. Do you want to know the real reason we requisitioned that hotel, Amos? Because it receives more sunlight than anywhere else in town, and because its tower structure can be converted into a greenhouse for the mandrake. It's the same reason why the brass went through the trouble of sending all of those valuable scientists and technicians here despite the ongoing war. Eventually, this will be Simon's mech, the Squilla. A weapon to surpass the Paladins and the Black Ogre alike.”>[What say?]
>>895728welp, time for Space Evangelion. now where are Not!Asuka, Not!Rei, and Not!Mari
>>895728>Squilla It's going to punch the fuck out of everything. I don't even know what to say here.
>>895757fuckin Mantis shrimps man. a natural Metal Gear
>>895728Not going to lie, it's amazing, but also scary as well. I can see why you would want to keep this thing hidden from view. Question is, why Simon?Either way, we will support you. This is a big thing that could help end the war and maybe help a lot of taboos too. Besides, we're a big ol' farm boy growing the best plants is what we do!
>>895674>limiting yourslef to bland normie sex while drowing in degeneration to try to appease all sort of fetiches you got by trying to make it at least palatable.>Not having wonderful genemoded lovemaking full of indescribable sensations not know to normie senses and minds.>Being proud of it and talking fartsounds about refined tastes because you don't know any better and are too arrogant to bother trying it even if you are dying of envy.No, because i'm not a repressed degenerate who worships fake gods of debauchery and only lives to get another fix of pleasure in a unpurposed life of disdain and illusions, while thinking about sex all day.
>>895757The most important thing is Amos' emotional response to the fact that this is going to be Simon's mech. It is, after all, a homemade Paladin.
>>895780In terms of Simon, this is a case of being there for our buddy and making sure he comes out of this alive, happy, and stable. He is one of our best buddies. We wouldn't abandon him, even if he is piloting a Jovian brand Paladin. Hell, we'd help him even more. It's why we are the all rounder of the group.
>>895780Hmmm, awe, and a little fear. Simon is going to fucking wreck shit, it's going to be amazing, and a little insane. We'll need to make sure there's a lot of safety measures. Also, Irina, baby, you're a super man-genius. It's grown since we got here. What changed? Is it reacting to something? Emotional differences, maybe? That might be too metagame-y to make that logical leap, though.
>>895728>*looks contenplatively**puts one hand on the glass while seeming to look through it*>"I don't know... It seems dangerous, and i don't think that we already know all that is to be know about this... But i don't exactly feel the same sense of dreadness from this one that the one i shot down had, did you say something about it growing up just after i coming here or something?"
>>895806mad-genius* Not man-genius. Though you do get in our head pretty damn well too.
>>895800This, sure it may be weird but we will always support our bro.
>>895728>A weapon to surpass the Paladins and the Black Ogre alike.”Until Simon has a mental breakdown and shit gets weird. Or until he fights the actual Roarke Starwind and realizes that nothing beats dumb luck and a big dick.
>>895773>>895674>implying Avalonians can engineer>implying the Paladins aren't overhyped art pieces that get CRUSHED by real pirate tech>implying the Iron Kestrels aren't the most advanced>implying Roarke Starwind and the Knuckle Kaiser can't beat up every single Paladin>implying the UJCIDF does any better>implying the best dickings aren't pirate dickings (see attached 90-page doujin)WHY DO YOU BOTH EVEN TRY
>>895815Let's be honest, we don't know what Simon is packing down there. Could be a pea shooter or a gun to rival Keith's old one.>Hey Baby, want to know how many kills I got packin' down there?
>>895728>Cool. Do you think we could make another one out of the old ladies?
So question, what did the Palamino do again? And what did it look like? Was it or the Morgan bigger? And was the Morgan the headless one, or was that the Warmouth? What was the Morgan's schtick, just being big?
>>895800>>895806>>895815Guys... I think that we shouldn't be just focusing in "Yeah, Siomn is goin to shine with this baby".This thing is alive, and it may be inteligent, have feelings... And may even start getting his own ideas about what it should be doing.I'm not against making it and putting it to use, but we should be humane with it and be carefull as we don't know what it is capable of.Also, it may feel something about amos... Maybe Amos is a papa now.
>>895838We'll just have to see then eh? Thing is, I feel like the other half of being supportive of this is for Irina. She's been trying pretty hard.
>>895838Never said anything about that. Hell my first reply was raising it right. That will mean treating it right too. Going to be a weird situation to say the least.
>>895850Who knows, it might not even work for him.
>>895838or the thing has psionically bonded to him and won't like simon because of that, afterall the only people who have gotten close to this thing are irina, martha(?), maybe a few scientists and amos, and of those amos probably had the most compatability with it
>>89580010 bucks says it rejects him immediately, because it bonded to Amos instead of Simon, before going on a rampage with Simon locked up inside. And Dame Maria saw it coming the entire time.
>>895859Or it's birth cries wake up the ancient horror Maria keeps talking up.
>>895866>ancient horror then adopts the machine>with Simon trapped inside>it feeds it like a baby bird so Simon won't die, eitherGood end?
>>895819>Implying you have any gene-engineering tech at all.>Implying that beating a very damaged Paladin after it going against an entire army of filthy and sneaky little mechanical bugs with big guns is any proof of competence.>Implying that you have any kind of resources near our level.>Implying that Roarke would even get near a paladin in normal conditions.>Imlying that the UJCIDF is even to be taken serious with al the hypocrite nonsense they say.>Implying that pirate doujins are better than Qu'liri doujins about horse-girls with complicated love lives and complex overlayers of plots that takes years to get to any conclusion.GO BACK TO JOVEDITT YOUR FILTHY PIRATE NORMIE COLONY TRAITOR!
>>895866the actual Bio-Armor thats still on the Planet? >Kaworu is a Green Man Clone who's been dormant for 40 years
>>895874And then Kaworu falls in love with Simon. The Paladin has no idea on what to make of all this shit.
>>895873you know who else didn't have any of that?Floyd Beck and Rudolph Merrow
>>895873>tfw modern paladins get rekt by one missile or a machine WITHOUT WEAPONS>tfw greenmen rekt so hard by a dude that paladins get flashbacks to events they weren't even present at If you got your ass beat so hard that your bastard half-grandchildren had mental breakdowns at seeing a toaster you know you ain't shit.Get fucked Green Lady. And all your shitty mecha with turnip AIs.
>>895849Lets be supportive, but lets not let her think of it as just another machine that she can toy with it and bend to fill some design.>>895850Yeah.. It is going to be weird... Who do we even "raise right" this kind of child?>>895858>>895859I fear that this may happen.>>895866>>895872If anyone has a chance of "talking" the ancient one down to not spore everyone, it is this "child".
>>895656They don't have to love us. They just have to need us. And all we have to do is insure that they will never stop needing us.
>>895901teach it that we love it, and that the greatest way to return that love is to destroy our enemies. It would help if it had limited higher thinking.
>>895901Plenty of excessive, make sure it gets regular check ups and properly fitting clothing, and that it eats plenty of greens.
"This is amazing." You say the first thing that pops into your head, "Really, really amazing...and kind of terrifying. Why Simon?" She shrugs, "Someone higher up the Bahamutcorp food chain picked him as their guinea pig. I can make a few guesses as to who, but not with certainty." "Because he has friends who can bail him out if something goes wrong." You give her a brave smile to hide your uneasiness, "You really are a genius.""And you really know how to flatter me." She smiles, still a bit awkwardly."Can it hear us? Is it alive?" You tap on the glass.Irina grabs your wrist before you can do it again, although since you're still in power armor that's mostly a symbolic gesture, "I don't know, and if I don't know, nobody knows." She glowers, "Except for that towheaded bitch in the brig, and she's not talking. The Captain would never let me torture her or anything, naturally, and just asking her questions just gets me a lot of mysterious smiles, cryptic pablum, and smug silences.""Do you think you could do something with the mandrake in the Berenger?" You put your arm around her, and for a moment your heart stops as you see the tiny hairs on the mandrake stirring before you realize that the water recirculator is active and creating a mild current. "Maybe." She says, sounding doubtful, "We can surmise a few things from what we've learned so far. First, the pilots themselves are special. They seem to have been genetically modified, any impurities fixed, their lifespans extended, and their bodies honed to peak human condition. If there's anything special about them beyond that, I don't know. We also know they bond with their mecha, so there's the chance that the Berenger's mandrake would view another pilot as an intruder." She wrinkles her nose and glances away, "To be honest, I tried messing around with the Berenger and couldn't even get it to turn on. It hasn't reactivated since it was shot down. That makes it a little difficult to give you a real answer, doesn't it?""I'm learning a lot." You smile at her, "No matter what happens, I support you. Sure, this makes me a little nervous, but if it can save lives and win the war, I'll reserve judgment for now." You wink, "Besides, we Wedges have always had green thumbs, grandpa, dad, and I used to grow some prize-winning pumpkins back on the farm. I bet just having me around is the reason it's gotten so big."Irina gives you the smile you've come to love. The almost lazily happy one she gets when she's being artistic, you can practically see the blueprints for new designs and systems flickering in her eyes. Love is a powerful muse, "Perhaps you've just watered the dried, cracked soil of my soul, and this baby mech is responding to it? I'm going to create masterpieces, Amos. I'm going to shape the face of the future, and it's all thanks to you. None of it would be possible without you."
>>895952Well shucks. You're gonna make me blush.
>>895966I FINALLY GOT RID OF THOSE FUCKS!
>>89596650 mb/s download my ass, lucky to get above 30
>>895883But their bosses did, maybe not avalonian level of genemoding and living mecha, but they had much more than the Kestrels have, and much more than the greenman probably had in their peak.Also...Floyd got a bad case of being dead.Rudolph went to space canada to spend the rest of his live having nightmares and sockpuppeting his son to be that which he didn't got to be..... And guess what, the people they defended became the new CUSS and are going on rampage to slave away their old brothers.But it doesn't have much to do with the question proposed.>>895892>Implying that missiles are not dangerous to literaly everything and even more dangerous if the astros allign with it and guide it to certain estructural elements.>Implying that they aren't just paying respects to the legends of old>Implying that the veterans of the war doesn't have a problem with greenery to this day, and that they may never recover of it.>Implying that they didn't passed the trauma to their children to some extent, driving them to piracy and polygamy.>Implying that this wasn't the greenman last act of revenge when they saw that it would end bad anyway.>>895906That is exactly what a drug dealer would say... Are you implying that the state is just a drug?>>895918Hm... What if it starts killing the wrong people because it decided that they were "bad for us" thu being an "enemy"?>>895919It makes sense to some extent... Excepting the part about telling it to commit canibalism.
Game resumes Monday. Not the Monday that's a few days from now, but the one a week after that. I'm going to be in and out of town, but I'll post in the thread when I can. The tournament isn't here yet, but it's looming closer, so help your friends hammer out every proper detail of their mecha. You'll notice that Brazil's Space Jam pastebin is now part of the OP, that should help.
>>895991Uguuu~, Wong-sama...What about my question?>.<>>894924
>>895981Safety, peace of mind, and good living conditions are some of the most addicting things for us. Promise those and give them to the public(even if it's not fully true) and you will have the majority eating out of your hand. Add some entertainment where needed and bam.
>>895873>being this upset because you can't beat a pirate mechThere's enough Avalonian salt here to supply Auditorium for a year.
>>895991I know you probably don't want to think about it right now, but was there every a final verdict on how ammo is factored into space and weight?
>>895981I'm implying that being the only superpower in the Region will mean that the people will have to bend the knee of face political, financial, or military action. >>896013the Roman way
>>896009Defer to the corebook over ATM.
>>896029Not yet, I came home today and immediately went into gamemode, and now I'm going into sleepmode.
>>896055Alright, no rush.
>>896013You don't really need a forcefull government to be able to have that, but we'll be debating this for hours if you go this way...My main point is, people can have safety, peace of mind, and good living conditions by associating peacefully between them... And don't need to rob/slave/assault/tax/kill peacefull others to secure this, as most forms of government implies.And yes, this means that i'm probably against avalonian rule too, just don't have enough proof yet to back this.>>896038Depending on how you are doing this, it can be evil and give space to much death and suffering because of it.>>896055Thanks for Running Wong, be safe man, it was i honor to be able to be with you guys today, as it aways is,and even if we fight a little sometimes... I'm almost aways kidding along with something, even with the avalonian act.Also...>>896028>DON'T ANSWER TO PIRATE POSTERS/POL/.gyjpeg
>>896044Ignore this, actually, I'll read this THOROUGHLY when I'm awake and deal with everything.
>>895991>Game resumes the day Christmas tests beginOh joy.
>>896152Hey Wong, I had an odd thought. Are there any factions that do mass-produced Ace units?I mean kinda like a level below SOUL but above a Pumpkinseed Ace Squad.A squad of Ace Level Pilots that use slightly customized Mechs that cost above 140 CP but below 200 CP. Cause I can see those being super effective. >>896093'ey Brazilia, here's the most up to date version of the Myrmidon and its pilot. http://pastebin.com/yfbZfxY3
>>896321> Are there any factions that do mass-produced Ace units?Not worth it. Because mook soldiers will barely survive longer than they were in MP mechs. And for the cost 2 officer mechs, you can build 2.8 mook mech. And in terms of firepower, quantity has a quality of its own.
>>896321You mean... Chevaliers?http://pastebin.com/ctbJhre1Brazilia agrees that they can do some scary damage, but don't believe that they can you can win just mass producing them.but you know, there is many planets out there, and for this being able to happen it could be because of a shortage of pilots that would make creating a lot of mechs useless because there would be no one to pilot in a worthwhile manner(You can't throw twelve years old into a cockpit and expects that everyone of them will be ace level, most will get killed even before managing to kill a smaller mech.), so they would focus their resources on the pilots they already have, meaning more powerful mechs.It would probaly mean Pumpkinseeds II level mechs for rookie use and Chevalier/Master Harpy for officer use, scary in a duel, not so much in a open battle when they get outnumbered.This could also be a good background form a pilot, someone that got a new mook mech from there... And is a misterious stranger,but more talkative than Not!Hunk obviously.It would also be ominous to see that there is someone out there having these level of mechs as just mooks.>>895991I volunteer to help everybody.Also, situation now:-Chimaera boy gave me a pastebin with some hard to understand spacing, please, just your weapons in Rogue's Gallery formate too, i know some people deviated a bit from it, but yours gone too far and Wong already got mad by things like this in the begining.>Cali didn't even begin to show a concept or something, i'm very curious about what he have in mind.>Victor didn't gave me a final version, problem is, Wong didn't gave a final word about the weapons space and weight problem... But i would expect the worse and then revert it if he decides for a easier option.Also, we don't have any Lunarian, Venusian, Martian, Qu'liri and "Outer system snowflake" here yet, so you guys maybe wanna work with that.
>>896829For the longest time, I figured a set of Cardinal pilots would be the equivilent to hillbilly catholic black tri-stars from Luna. The machine is a bit scary still though. Would give a few machines issues with it's stun sheleighleigh.
>>896829Also:>Need info on Thunder's Pilot, please stop being tsundere Thunder, seriously, if your so mad with that joke just says so.>Need info on Not!Hunk, if there is something that the administration could know about him, it should be written on his "preferred pilot" info.(Also, you should decide from which system he came from... Give it a name and a little description on what it had of different before being spored to death, be fun, but do not go too crazy or Wong won't accept it... It's also pretty possible that Hunk is somekind of genemoded people, but again, do not go too crazy with this, Animal-people is okay if there is any advantage of being that, albino-supersoldier is too far.)>Need info on Maxwell Not!Doan, and please check if everything is okay with the Dutchman stats, i fear that i may be using and older pastebin or something.>Need more info on Daryl Bradley... It is not vital per se... But a description of his appearance and his personality would be nice,also, if he is indeed a spy, you may want to talk something about that to be sure that wong gets your special brand of spyness right.>>896904Huh. give me that and i will put them in my secondaries list, need link to the cardinal, small description of its concept and the info on the pilots.
>>896917Not Hunk is just some old guy in a mask with really bad space PTSD. Everything else is being left to Wongs discretion.
>>896917Thunder is in college, he's probably just busy studying for exams.
>>897044He was here some time ago in the last thread, and didn't answer to any of my posts, and made like 3, and a fourth one joking about being ignored by senpai.I tend to assume to worst...also, did you read the book, what did it say about the missiles?>>897001there is anything i can put on his info? What did he wrote in his form to the tourney? Age? Place of birth? telefone for contact?>>896321alredy updated it!^^
>>897059Seems like he just showed up and pointed at the form until people got the message.
>>897059>>897063Illegible scribbles and the name of his mech very clearly printed in block letters. He's on the Rhinehawk, so it's not as if he's hard to find. A lot of the applicants probably openly list their age, real name, place of birth, and contact information, but the Iron Kestrels are pirates and not everyone who's already a member of the fleet is comfortable sharing that. For example, Miles Longshadow is pretty clearly a made-up name and she doesn't talk at all about her past.
>>897059Oh, right, the missiles. Defense wins on a tie, and I'm 99% sure that crits work like this.I've got a tenpack of rockets and launch them all, beating the target's roll by a whopping 12, let's say 30 versus 18. That would be three megacrits (+12, +11, +10), five regular crits (+9, +8, +7, +6, +5), two regular hits (+4,+3). You would roll a total of eight times on the crit tables and twice on the normal location tables.
>>896917If my computer would stop being a pain for a hour I'll have it out. For Maxwell C. Hammer(or a more fitting name if Wong has one), I'll go with the whole retired Navy pilot who runs a orphanage on one of the colonies Roarke is getting. Will probably be given his Mech to show off it's potential to the Kestrels by some engineers and scientists with a grudge. Up to Wong there.
>>897080Interesting.>>897090You should roll for locations for the megacrits and crits too, no? The book even goes out of the way to say that the servo hitten by a megacrit takes the damage ignoring armor, and then you roll in the crits tables.Per example: If i get a megacrit with a missile, roll 1(Head) and then 2 on the cinematic damage table(Blunt it), the head would take full damage ignoing armor and the torso would take half the damaged of the missile(caused by sharpnel or inner systems exploding too, i guess...), no?>>897091I remember you writing about this, thats why i asked.
>>897134I suspect that specific sentence is worded poorly. It is previously stated that, on a crit or a megacrit, you choose which table you roll on - the standard Random Hit Chart, Special Hit Locations or Cinematic Hit Locations. So I would consider it likely that rolling "on the Random Hit Charts as normal" is intended to refer to the Hit Charts and Special Damage Tables as a whole. This would be "normal" for a crit; otherwise, Mega-crits would be situationally worse than crits for being unable to choose which table to roll on.
>>897134Is cool and yes, the Dutchman is being worked on. It just adds the Guard loadout and makes the grenades for standard actual grenades. Allowed me to put in a little extra grenade there and lowered the cost a it for Standard too. http://pastebin.com/w5yRgXe4
>>897174Yeah, it makes sense, and also says that whatever you roll in the dramatic damage chart the related servo to this system gets half damage...Hmmm Good to know.Also, how does parrying with a weapon work? And damage to weapons? Do they receive damaged the same way as shields, or the same way as a servo?
>>897225Same as shields but parrying is melee only. There is also a smaller defense arc for melee. While a shield could defend the other side panels of the hex aside from the back, melee parry can only really defend the front 3 sides of the hex. Can't block blasts, range, or the like. Not sure if it can block thrown weapons either.
>>897231Do they lose they ability to cause damage bit by bit? Or isit like Fragile weapons who in reality have 1K but can cause many more damage than it?
>>897254I would say like Fragile in this case. No mention of the weapon doing less damage or becoming lighter due to less kills.
New loadouts for the Walkure:http://pastebin.com/qBXNMGDwIt turned out that i had calculate the wight wrong, so i tweaked my missiles a bit and got this as result.
>>897487Man, makes me want to go have a round with the Walkure first in MANLY. Blow up the rock with missiles and duke it out in proper CQC
New Loadout for the Valkyrie: http://pastebin.com/LkDJjdpFI didn't expect such Heavy AP swords out of the competition, so I shifted to a heavy torso mounted Shield, and shifted the thruster design around a little to give me the ability to mount a Logic Processor to make give me a +2 bonus to all int rolls, including those made to use the signature shadow imager.
>>896829I think that I understand what the problem is. If I could ask you a favor, would you screen cap a properly formatted mech from the rogue's gallery? I've been posting from mobile devices due to my work schedule, and all that stuff tends to get lost in translation from computer to tablet.
>>897643Also, Design and Decor is almost comically overpowered when mounted on the Knuckle Kaiser. +3 to intimidation attempts and Seduction rolls while inside your mech for 2 CP? Yes please.
>>897757Cool doesn't get the respect it deserves compared to other stats when it comes to Mech combat. It can also be used in a few creative ways. The Walkures fancy color frame to the Dutchman more intimidating, but refined look thanks to constant small detail all over the body. A bunch of small touches that bring out the best look to the Dutchman.
Are there any other pilots with amazing reputations from the War? Merrow, Beck, Bluegill Joe are Legendary, but are there others of lesser reputation? The Ramba Rals to the Red Comets.
>>897627HAHAHAHAHAHA I already have thought of the same thing!This is why i want to fight you in the finals XD>>897697I could try, but i'm kind of occupied right now.
Considering that the Tournament is being held alongside the wedding, which contestants would bring Wedding gifts?
>>898022At this point, our mechs are likely the only wedding gifts they need. That and the blood sport.>>897978Eh, could do the first fight as well to get the fires pumping in everyone.
>>897643Alright, looking at it you are forgetting to put in the hands for the costs, space efficiency for your weapons and shield, and a few other things. Before I even calculated the modifier it was in the 137 range. Not sure if weight inefficiency is ok either.
>>899465You are clearly messed up. That's all in there.
>>899610Don't think I am. When you did the servos, the total costs for them were low compared to other medium strikers with similar armor. By 4 CP and 1 ton. That was by the initial part. Your weapons and armor are also missing their space efficiency by what I read since you have the weapons, buy no changes. Quick doubles a weapons cost and a 8 kill beam weapon is 8 CP. Then there is the 21 CP active shield which should have 10.5 spaces, but no mention of space efficiency.
>>899654>Quick doubles a weapons cost and a 8 kill beam weapon is 8 CP.And heavy strikers have a bonus of +1 to their melee attacks. Its a 7 kill weapon costing 14 cp, with 2 cp of space efficiency to make it 10 spaces. Similar story for the shield. You are simply misreading the stat block.
>>899784Still does not answer the hand issue and not including the Space Efficiency or the original weapon kills can make things hard to tell. Incidentally, your active shield is too big. You can hold a shield a class above the servo attached to it, but not as high as yours. You would have a 9 at most, not a 12. Look under class in the advance manual.
>>898022>Sadly, akai's gift was held by security because it was confused for a bomb, beause... well, its a bomb.
>>901476Actually, it raises a question; How will the tournament brackets be designed? Putting the one hit killers amongst the grunts and non melee specialists seems like it'd make the fights rather uninteresting due to the nature of their combat. Should they be put in a heavy weight bracket while the grunts duke it out?
>>901704We could do an elimination round where all the jobbers are gotten rid of and then draw lots for the tourney bracket
>>901740Well, the elimination round was a given considering it would be more than the machines we submitted, but Random doesn't really work for this. We have a few insanely dangerous, but completely situational machines that are practically designed for arena and 1 on 1 combat only. Then we have the all rounders, the grunts and the like who came to get their name known and put into mass production. When you do it randomly, it's more likely those super specialists will end up with the all rounders so we don't even get a chance to see what they can do before getting one shotted.
>>899873>>899784The hand problems is probably because the irregular armor, i counted all the things and the price is right, at least now, idk if it was ajusted.Now...>Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton>Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton>Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Sterio (0.1 cp) Advanced Head Mounted Logic Processor (1 Space, 5CP)>Total: 2 tons, 4 spaces, 20.6 CPNo... It costs 13.6CP, Spaces 6.>Torso Mounted "Wings of Salvation" active shield system: DA -2, SP 9, 15 CP, 3 Spaces, 4.5 tons.No... it should occupy 3.75 spaces, which you could round to 4, not 3, but the rest seems ok.Also, Kat-nee-san, we if we fight i'm going to play this!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AlEvy0fJto>*VALKYRE DUEL INTENSIFIES*>*THUNDER PRAISING THE OLD GODS INTESIFIES*>*VALLHALLA INTENSIFIES*>*ODIN IS PLEASED*
>>901770But thats how Tourneys work there is an element of luck to it
>>901774Thunder, darling, i need the details of your pilot to atualize the pastebin...The huskarl is yours?Right?
>>901774Not all. There is times where there are brackets for particular groups or styles before the finals. Sure the paths meet at the end, but they keep certain groups separated because unless you ARE that good, it becomes impossible to counter. So it's less entertainment and more of the same. >>901772I think the Valkyrie is pretty much your antithesis BR. Even with your missiles, the active shield and shadow images are going to make it impossible for you to land a hit that can damage it.
>>901785Yes, His name is Finn Bodvarsson. Finn is a norse pagan mercenary who fights to earn his place in Valhalla and is searching for an honorable death. He torn out one of his eyes as a sacrifice to Odin. Everything else is up to Wong to do what he wants with
>>901788>A bunch of shinobi harpies end up in the same arena>There a only shinobi harpies the arena>The most "SASUGA" battle of the history of time begin as each storm dragon try to persuade the other to uncloak.>After a bizzare weeaboo debate of "i know that you knows that he knows that i know what the other guy will do" thefirefight finally begin because two idiots hit their mechs while flying cloaked and get uncloak as result.That's how putting all the harpies in the same category will end.
>>901818Well, in their case they would be in the specialist category or might not even survive the elimination round. Besides, that scenario IS pretty funny in of itself.
>>901788>I think the Valkyrie is pretty much your antithesis BR. Even with your missiles, the active shield and shadow images are going to make it impossible for you to land a hit that can damage it.Yeah, the Valkyrie has a layered defense that makes it damn hard to kill. First, it has 5 smoke missiles that can screen its approach against ranged Mecha, and potentially allow it to "refresh" its shadows depending on how Wong rules. Second, it has the Skill of its pilot. Third, it has the Shadow Imager itself, which Kathrine will have a +4 advantage to tricking opposing pilots. Fourth, it has the Active Shield, backed by heavy armor to cut down on bleed-through damage.
>>902022Pretty much. The machine is pretty much an anti thesis to anything that isn't Blast and One hit one kill. The weapon is strong enough to wreck a mech in two blows and it has quick. The shield and armor combo makes it pretty hard to kill for the one hit that gets through because the other two have a chance to be blocked by those shadow images. Anything not a specialist would be unable to beat it.
>>902101Its ranged weaponry is really limited though. A transforming mecha might be able to kite it.But yeah, its designed to survive at least one full attack melee routine by virtually any mecha in its weight class, and counter with crippling damage next round.
>>902133Even a flight type would have issue since it requires build up and comes with big MV penalties. This is part of the reason why keeping the specialist in a bracket til the finals would be good. They are designed for this sort of thing and would provide actual entertainment and fights that are more than one rounds. Mind you, while it is a good machine, it is not one I can see being used in groups.
>>902152>Mind you, while it is a good machine, it is not one I can see being used in groups.I'd probably give it a more standard weapons loadout in a mass produced version. Lighten its shield a bit, Shift to a lighter EMW and a ranged option.
>>902179Not exactly what I meant. Like I said, your machine is weak to Blast(and probably burst/spread weapons too). Get a bunch close and have some other group with some basic blast grenades and you lose your imager and have good chances of losing sensors, your mounted shields, or your weapons. In a solo or near solo situation it would be great because each enemy can fight you one at a time, but this is the sort of machine that would have trouble with weapons designed to hit groups.
>>902133Hmm... Idk how shadow images work, but i assume that everytime you got hit you roll for a image getting hit instead, right?If i'm remembering rosita's fight well, wong ruled that the images dissapeared after getting hit, so idk if you can recover them after a cloud of smoke....In fact, a fight between it and the Walkure would really be a feast for the eyes of odin, normally, combats with the walkure tend to be short because of its missiles or punch strategy...But i guess that the missiles from her "sister" would make Akai to be carefull and skit it with her higher MA, but if she doesn't get down in the missile spam or a lucky "TIRO FINALE" they are coming to blows in deadly melee... Thats is also probably going to be opened by dropkick.I can already imagine all the norse-pagans of auditorium making a big "feast of the gods" in the middle of the audience for this fight "PRAISING!" ever higher everytime they land a hit in each other...
>>901829Also, we could do a one shot about it, with everyone making a improvised pilot and choosing a harpy weapon outfit... It would be bizzarely funny, would let us explore a bit the storm dragons(who get little attention since the greenskulls arc) and wouldn't take even a whole thread probably...>Also, i cannot imagine the sort of bizzare arguments you guys would come up to convince each other to decloak...
>>902225I think it wouldn't be as glorious as you think it would be. MA does not come into affect when trying to hit the real image and missiles in the volley all hit the shield if it parries. You'd weaken the shield by a lot, but no real damage. And once it's melee, she's got you.
>>902214>>902225While it may make logical sense, and very easily be houseruled so, by default, Shadows do not mechanically take up any space on the battlefield, instead being a property of the mech which deploys them (Balloon-type Shadows aside).How they mechanically work is that, when a mech with Shadows deployed (for free on its own turn or in place of a Parry) is successfully hit, it and its attacker must make an additional contested roll (of 1d10+INT+other skills and miscellaneous modifiers). If the attacker's roll is higher, the attacker choose to land the hit on either a single deployed Shadow (thus rendering it ineffective against that attacker only) or the actual defending mech (resolving damage as normal). If the rolls are equal, or the defender's roll is higher, no hit is scored.There is no mention of Shadows being separately-targettable units of their own.Yes, Shadow Imagers are kind of bullshit.
>>902288Not exactly. It is true they do not take up spaces, but they are not solid shields either. When it comes to AOEs, they would have no real defense since, like you said, they are all in one space. If a blast or a ton of shrapnel head into that hex, you will get hit by it if you can't dodge or block and because of their nature, they act would show where the real one is. Wong did mention that it is one of the few ways to counter the Archen and it also makes sense logically. After all, how can a blast decide which is which when it hits all things in the radius equally? But yes, Shadow Imagers are pretty rediculous and one of the few modifiers that remain effective no matter the CP.
>>902214>Get a bunch close and have some other group with some basic blast grenadesBlast weapons are pretty rare in this setting. I wouldn't count it out entirely.>>902225>If i'm remembering rosita's fight well, wong ruled that the images dissapeared after getting hit, so idk if you can recover them after a cloud of smoke....Here is the relevant blurb from the fight:>Despite the long gouge, you jump her in a blur of motion, your weapons hissing. You strike two of the Archens clearly, and as your beam sabers pass through your ASP tags those images with a translucent filter to remind you that they're holograms. At least two of them will no longer be distractions.In theory, breaking line of sight should allow the images to "refresh" but again, Wong can rule otherwise
>>902273Each turns would take 10 seconds, so all the skitting would let me play my music for a longer time... what is good.Do the shield really blocks everything? It looks to me more that they block the first missile on a spam, as they are different "Hits", but i could open with 「TIRO FINALE」let the shield get it, and then missile spam her... And then it becomes a matter of luck as depending on how many hit and were they hit... it could mean the end of the fight for either of us.There is still a crazy chance that the Walkure could dodge one turn of melee attacks (Or at least dodge the first one, get the second on the torso and parry the other two with different arms), but that depends on the dice.
>>902331This is true, and can very understandably be houseruled so. As with many items in the ATM, Shadow Imagers don't quite make logical sense.Why does a successful hit render the Shadow ineffective for only the attacker rather than everyone in the area? Why are Shadows not explicitly stated to be targettable?The default rules often require tweaking (or straight-out banning) during actual play, but I figured that, in the absence of an official houserule, we may as well be aware of them.
>>902376Actually, since you lack a backup sensor, I would almost certainly go straight for your head, which I can one hit kill.
>>902409Makes sense, isn't it a little metagaming? But it doesn't matter much as taking a head normally implyes -2MV on the now headless mech, which gives you a good reason to do it.You would stil have to it, though, and our roll difference is only 1 point, so i could possible escape a hit or two from you.
>>902409a) Your pilot wouldn't actually know that, since your machine doesn't have a Target Analyzer, and therefore you should not make decisions based on OOC knowledge of the internal layout of his machine.b) His Main Sensors don't seem to actually be mounted in his head.
>>902376Thats not exactly true. When you parry a action you parry the entire action. So if I have a burst weapon, managed to get three hits due to dodge difference but you block it, your shield gets 3 hits and lose 3 SP. Same applies to missiles. The fact she has shadow imagers means that your first hit might not be aimed at her so she would still have her active shield.
>>902448>a) Your pilot wouldn't actually know that, since your machine doesn't have a Target Analyzer, and therefore you should not make decisions based on OOC knowledge of the internal layout of his machine.Going for the sensors or weapons is a pretty standard tactic for my machine, since it can 1 shot limbs but not the torso if they are either mounting 5 or more armor or a frame heavier than a Medium Striker.>b) His Main Sensors don't seem to actually be mounted in his head.Fair point. In that case though he takes a -2 to awareness rolls, such as those needed to see through smoke or determine which are shadows.
>>902454So i have to hit the two hits?Hard, but possible if i get a few aiming bonuses.>>902448UWAAAAAAAAAAAA SENPAI! PLEASE STOP REVEALING MY TRUMP CARDS TO NEE-SAAAN! YOU BAKA!>.<It would make sense that she would aim for the head uguuuuuuuu~ as losing the main sensors cause -2 in all actions and she know it nyan...
>>902503You would have to win 5 rolls, two of which are unrelated to aiming to hit her and she needs two hits to destroy your machine. It is a very big gap and even then hitting doesn't mean all the missiles hit. If the margin was small only a few number of them would hit.
>>902498>>902503Whoops.Well, acting in-character compels him now to make attacks against your head regardless of whether you have sensors in them.Also, I hate to bring this up at this point, but isn't the penalty to not having Sensors in your Head -2 to Awareness, not all rolls? Yes, not having Sensors period gives a -4 penalties to all combat actions, but that penalty doesn't apply so long as you have Backup Sensors.
>>902344Blast is rare due to the fact that it's a situational weapon. It's a one shot sort of thing and compared to beam weapons with infinite ammo and blast doesn't do high damage. But when it becomes a situation where they become viable, they'd be a lot more common. Same with missiles and scatter bombs. When startegies change, certain things become more useful.>>902532Been the case for a while and it makes some sense since back-up sensors aren't exactly fancy things.
>>902532>Well, acting in-character compels him now to make attacks against your head regardless of whether you have sensors in them.I could also go after the torso mounted weapons. It would probably depend on the situation.
>>902564I believe backup sensors' intended penalty is that they're shitty and have basically no range, meaning you can't use beam or projectile weapons effectively.It's only something that just struck me as out of place.
>>902516I know i'm pretty screwed, mainly because of the shadow imagers and the awareness penalty, but i can't really give up even if this is a suicide fight, this wouldn't be Roarke ways, this isn't Oda's way and WILL NOT BE AKAI INAZUMA'S WAY OF FIGHTING!>*LATIN CHORUS ON THE BACKGROUND*Also, isn't backup sensors penalty that you would receive -2 in all rolls? And that any sensor mounted on torso gains-2 on awareness?
So, what religion does we follow. the jovians follow the roman pantheon and unless it was changed then the gods are a bunch of dick's. personally i think it would be cool to follow the norse god's, if only for the fact that not all the god are dick's, unlike in the rome/greek pantheon were only pluto/hades is the only god not to rape some one.
>>902694Well, I would like to see more interesting fights instead of one siders, so there may be a way to do it. Have the elimination rounds serve as a sort of grand melee with the machines going at it. High destruction points will guarantee you, but those who are pretty high in term of kills will be placed with others that placed relatively high.So in terms of power and nature, things like Huscarl and Valkyrie would have a high death ratio while machines like the Dutchman, Walkure, Myrm, and Libra would be lower. Hell, it could even lead to team ups so the grunts work together to secure their spots.
>>903469I assumed that there would be qualifying rounds that the PC machines basically autopass, with lots of customized bluegills and such getting offed.
>>903577Pretty much the same thing really. More of a spectacle this way as well. Either way, part of the arena aside from getting mechs and good aces is entertainment, so spectacle is important. Got to show up Lysa and Fairchild at every corner!
>>903601We should still vet and hire the grunts since we have plenty of ships we need to fill now
>>903661Well yeah. Thats a given. This event is a great way to draw in crew members and every bluegill and harpy is another harpy plus. Morgans and Warmouths are great filler, and crew is good in general.
>>903373This can sound funny or non-sensical, but i think that Akai really belives in meme magic.Please, i know you're laughing already, but check these dubs:In their most primal form... Gods are just this, memes, and get attention or credibility as more people starts believing them as serious... In the midst of so many of non-compatible forms of religion and being exposed to old terran culture about "home-dweller sages" that purify every concept to their most essencial forms and categorize every characters as faces and fusions of "divine" aspects of storytelling that figures in life itself(as art is an imitation of life)... Whats more to believe?
>>903373I think Roarke is sorta meh on religion. Which is understandable considering his roots. He might play lip service to the various gods, but he's most definetly not religious in of himself.
>>903469Sounds complicated how would you contabilize kills if more than one contestant damaged a certain mech?A 4-6 Duel between pre categorized mechs would be good enough...
>>902564Blast is also stupidly expensive for projectiles.
>>904454And because I'm bored and was watching SRW vids on youtube, here is the mech I based the Libra and Alexander off of.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Z7bxTMUtMIgnore everything after the 2:35 mark, since that involves in game Sphere Bullshit that is in no way applicable to the Libra.
>>904454Only if you go for a big blast. A x3 is not that bad for missiles and if you make them a throwing weapon, their price is halved. Wouldn't want to go too far with Blast weapons anyways since targetting hexes are DC challenges.
>>904529So... What is alexander perspective on religion? And what will he send as give to the wedding?>>903661>>904111The two questions upthere applies to you too, also, for you three and whoever wants to respond.Would you aim for the head, why?
>>904591I'm gonna leave all that for Wong to decide.
>>904591Depends on the situation honestly. Sometimes it would be better to hit the head, sometimes it is not. Same with any sort of battle. Going for the wings or legs may be a good idea to cripple a melee unit and then leave him for mop up by the range squad or simply taking a limb off someone who two hands a weapon.
>>904665In your duel, i mean, would you go for my head? and what about Lightning?Chimaera?Huskarl?Myrm?Valkyre?Wraith?>pic unrelated, i just love it... but i aways loe the contrast of loli and mecha anyway...
>>904717For the Walkure I'd probably go for the head or wings as part of the hand to hand spectacle. Myrm depends, but for the more rediculous, one hit kill machines, it's going straight for the threat removal. Going for the head or anything else isn't safe when a single hit loses the match.
>>904852This would be a show, the two of them in hardcore CQC beheading one another in midst of punchs and mecha thurster ballet.I want Akai to win... But could you imagine a Villkiss jobing to a Zaku? That would be just hilarious.
>>904908Ah but this is a Doan Zaku. In some games it can learn from Doman and gain that golden glow and all that comes with it.
>>905123Man, if the G-Gundam and the Villkiss got into an bullshit fight, their level of bullshit you get so hig as they aspull things and level up in the middle of the fight that the MECHA GOD'S themselfs would appear to judge them for breaking the laws of reality!>And in the end they would marry, call all the gundams for the wedding, and have many SD sons and daughters together, because this is in what this level of bullshit would result, it would bend the laws of reality itself.
just atualized the pastebin:http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWSI was bored and made up an easter egg as a saturnian helper and friend of Katherine writting an evaluation of the pilots for Rosita.If you "REEEEE" from that or if i got your planet wrong, please inform me so i can solve the problem.
>>902532I realized that some time ago and honestly just figured it was too late to change it, and backup sensors mostly suck for snipers, they still have a combat range of at least 1km.
>>905418Well, it does give a actual strategic reason to go for the head. Not a big one mind you, but one that helps.
Have a small preview.[Arm Mounted] Amos Tactical Missile Array: Range 550m, WA +3, 10K (7K of structure), Fuse (Missiles can be set on a timer or detonated remotely), 10 Missiles, 29.5 CP, 7 Spaces, 3.5 tons
For a phalanx cannon can i make one with 1 kill of damage and 8 burst value, will that stop a 8 missile barage?
So since the Wraith is in the same size Class as a Harpy and and is a stealth Mecha.Would it be relegated to the Storm Dragon shinobi weeaboo Mosh pit?Because Gareth would have no idea what any of the Storm Dragon pilots would be talking about
>>905762I reckon we should just throw everyone in randomly and see what happens.
>>905694Only if you sucessfully roll higher than your opponent, destroying tha Valkyre's missiles probably wouldn't be so hard, but imagine a Shinobi Harpy with +3WA, the chances will be against you, and thats assuming that luck isn't involved.About this... it may be a good idea against Walkure, Pharcyde and Valkyre but i don't rememeber anyone more using missiles, thre is also the off chance of you going against a Pumpkinseed II or something but most mook mecha or have a few 12K or many 3 or 4K missiles that aren't that dangerous per se... What makes this a hard choice if you are short in CP because burst is too expensive.
>>905779But phalanx is half cost
>>905762>Garret feels confident with his rare mecha design.>Fight starts EVERYONE CLOAKS>"Well, thats awkard" says someone in the comms.>"Sasunaru-chan, don't you have some kawaii sakura blast 「EXPLOSION」 makers? Why don't you do us a favor and owari-da this mess-senpai?" another says.>"Nfufufufu, so you could send to the shinigami world the only 「STAND」 capable of revealing the weak point of your true power?Sasuga, Gundamu-kun, but you'll need more than that to get me" says a feminine voice.>Discussion begins.>The end of this madness is unseen.>Then waifu war begins.>Garret has seen too much and too far, he didn't want to know how deep the rabbit hole went...
>>905762http://pastebin.com/nG5c2Cd4A new updated Character Bio For Gareth Rains.Give a little more detail about why he dropped out of med SchoolAlso built a new Alt version of the Wraith to replace the Fire control version since Wong gave it the nayNew load out drops the Vibro blade in favor of a Striker Chest and ASPBoth set now feature CP pricing for both base+X.3+X.2And Base+X.5 Since Wong never got back to me on that>>905808Mental Scars that will take a team of therapists years to talk before giving up and chalking it up to space madness
Remind me what level of Cloaking-related systems is actually permissible for tournament use now?
>>905919Basic CloakActive CloakStealth At least those are the ones Wong hasn't out right said no to Fire Control is outNot sure about combat cloak
I just found this image... Who is up for editing it to be quest related?change "agis" for "greenman"change the hypercop part for: ">Avalon isn't a greenman fiefdomyou're welcome, sap suckers."add UJCIDF flag in palce of the one in thereremove christian references... Maybe add Roman patheon ones?
>>905932He said no to all the various Refracts?...Someone asked him about all the various Refracts?
>>906003I don't recall him saying anything about the different Refracts, nor do I recall anyone asking about them
>>905762It'd be a specialist, the same goes for the like of Huscarl and Valkyrie. It's got one role it is very good at and sticks to it. And the more I think about it, the more 'weeaboo marco polo' appeals to me.>>905526..Floating land mines? Thats actually pretty scary.
>>906042Mines have to have a WA of 0 but apparently hit automatically regardless.
>>906042This reminds me of something... If i have Fuse-Blast missiles, do i even need to hit someone? Couldn't i just wait for the missile be in the same "hex" and exlode it?Causing sharpnel damage to everyone in that hex?Also, how much do we know of our enemies from the tourney? Because if we are going to use missiles and everything in the initial battles, the other contestants will know about it.
>>906058>>906070Looks like this is a mix between a mine and a sticky bomb. The accuracy is not only to hit, but to 'stick' to the enemy when they try to remove it. So you can have fun scenarios where Amos puts a pile of sticky bombs on a paladin(three on the power plant somehow) and he's holding the button asking them to surrender.
>>905526So he has a Medium weight with a Active shield on the other arm? This is looking better than expected... Is his armor Light Weight?
>>906082Man... This is a normal missile, not a mine, mines have Range 0, but maybe the stick part could happen.
>>906082How do you work out the weight of a missile again?
>>906086That is sort of the use of a fuse weapon. It only explodes when you want it to. So in theory you could fire them into the ground as a proximity or remote mine and go GoldenEye versus mode on them.
>>906090Well like most weapons missile packs have kills and that kill count is their total ammount of kills divided by 12. So if I have a 4 pack of 6 kill missiles, it's 2 kills and thus 1 ton.
>>906091Hm... I'm thinking that if the Valkyre is going to show her shadow imagers in initial rounds... It would make sense that the Storm Dragons would plan a strategy against it.But i don't know about how the blast/fuse combo would work in this way, wouldn't it be too OP if you can just explode it into the hex and the opponet can't dodge?(Because that is what Blast does) And then the shadow imagers are tagged as result? Seems too easy to be true.
>>906103In fact, its total kills divided by 15, so 10x6K would result in 4 Structural Kills and 2 tons.
>>906106That is sort of the point of blast though. It's duty is to hit everything in a hex. It's less OP and more a counter to such things like 'MV 0 Active shield using speedster with 10 shadow images'. It's not really a damage dealing weapon either since even if it's 20 kills, the blast spreads it to four areas of five.>>906110So it is, must have got caught on that 1 missile with 12 kills.
>>906127But...Dutch-senpai, wouldn't it cause Fuse missiles to be unavoidable? And you could only parry them with a DA0 Shield... Man, This is too OP there must be more to it... Can someone roll dodge to get out of the hex? This don't make much sense too but...Is Wong here? Can Anyone explain to me how fuse-blast missiles work?Can you just explode the hex your opponent is in if he is on range?
>>906427DA 0 shields aren't expensive though and what I would consider a good idea anyways. Even if the fuse makes it 'unavoidable' thats the same with standard mines, grenades or the like if you don't have a DA 0 shield. And even with the blast, that is still 5 kills of damage to each area which for most machines here is only enough to dent the armor or get lucky with the table. It is not a op weapon and for all intent and purpose is much less a threat than those who can guarantee a kill with their weapon and one hit. So no, fuse does not give you a unavoidable 20 kills of damage to one spot if thats what you are thinking, because thats not how blast works.
>>906464>Make 10x10K missiles -2WA,triple range,blast 1,fuse.>missile spamm it all in one hex>UNLIMITED MISSILE WORKSPlease tell me about how this isn't going to be OP.
>>9070666k reactive shield
>>907066anti-missile weapons would reduce that by quite a bit
>>907066A DA 0 10 SP shield would handle the issue, and even then you still need to aim and hit the area. Hitting a specific hex requires a difficulty challenge that rises the further it goes. If you fail to hit the roll required, it deviates by 1 hex. When you fire a LOT of blast things at once, each roll is one less than the last. So you firing all those missiles will likely hit every thing that isn't the target. Especially with that high range and low accuracy. By the way, even if the attacks miss and can be remote detonated, you can still fly above the fallen missiles.
>>907122Let me see that.>>907120Hm... Maybe not, it seems that it may not work exactly well if the missiles are'nt exactly aimed at you.>>907078Do blast 1 divide the damge by two?Also, did anyone of you see my "Pilot Status" section on the pastebin?http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWSI thought that i could at least make one of you reeee at my very bad sleeply jokes.
>>907261Doesn't bug me any. But yes, missiles tend to follow that rule. Just passing the roll doesn't help you much since you will get a fraction of them. To safely get them all if you fired 10, you would need 10 above the required roll. Incidentally, you can't 'crit' with the blast of a weapon.
And because it is late and my mind will not let me sleep, here is a simple idea for some upgrade bundles.KAISER SABOT: Legs upgraded to light heavy, and given clumsy 1 kill, but +2 WA 'feet'. Add a cross-link with the feet for double kicking power all for the cost of 10 CP. 14 to keep the weight the same.KAISER'S COMPOSURE: Grin like the kaiser, Scowl like the Kaiser, SCREAM like the Kaiser! Upgrade the head 1 size and add some weight loss and that +3 cool upgrade. All for the cool price of 4 Cp!Enchanced Efficiency and Thruster Array: Chip some spaces here and there to make space for more thrusters. Slims the Cockpit ball, back-up sensors, and Grappling Hook to 1, and the Active shield to 2, then fills the gaps with MORE THRUST. So, 3 CP for the efficiency, and 6 for the thrusters. Nice to have if speed dips from other upgrades.KAISER AURA: Make the torso a size bigger and stuff that reactive shield in. Costs depends on what we have to work with. Could cut costs by making it ranged only, and increase it by improving the refresh time.
>>905932In theory any of the stealth options the S-Betta have would be available to Kestrels or people who've been associating with them. >>906427You make an attack roll at a set TN for indirect fire like that, and there's always DA 0 shields, on top of which burst missiles divide their damage up in a way that makes them unlikely to quickly ice other ace mecha. Don't get me wrong, it's a powerful combo, but a lot of weapon trait combinations are powerful together.
Welp, Libra anon here, I just realizes that I had made a huge mistake regarding the Small Shield.For some reason I assumed it was 6 CP instead of 7.5, so my mech is actually over the 140 CP limit in most of the configurations. The two ways I've come up to fix this issue is to either make the CROWE two handed, which would leave it vulnerable to attacks while it's shooting but free up exactly 1.5 CP from the refunded space effeciency, or downgrade the shield to 5 SP, which would make it cost 6.25 CP with -1 DA.Also, I figure I should ask this now, but is there a weight limit to how much your arm servos can carry in regards to weapons?
>>908430The manual actually has the lifting capacity for servos on page 117. For a regular medium striker its 20 tons.
>>908384Okay when I am adding multiple different modifiers am I multiplying each modifier one after thee other so Base+X.3+X.2+X.1 ectOr am I supposed to add up all the modifiers Base+X.6?
>>908700>http://pastebin.com/LkDJjdpFI would love to know this too... For reasons.>Reasons involving Shinobi Harpies
>>908700For building Additive Systems (whose costs are added to your mech's total), modifiers are multiplicative. So, a weapon with a x0.5 modifier and a x0.6 modifier (for instance, a Melee Weapon with Clumsy and WA -2) would cost x0.30 times of its base value, not x1.1.For Cost Multiplier Systems (which have a multiplicative effect on your mech's total), modifiers are listed in such a way that they add to the base x1.0 cost of your entire mech. If you have two Cost Multiplier Systems with a x0.5 and x0.6 modifier (for instance, 10 Shadows and +6 MV Verniers), your Mech would cost 1.0[base]+0.5[Shadows]+0.6[Verniers] = x2.1 times of its base cost.Note that some Cost Multiplier Systems may have additional modifiers within themselves, such as Balloon-based Images. These multiplicative within the System; a 10 Shadow Balloon-based Imager applies a x0.35 modifier as compared to the x0.5 of a standard Holographic one.>>908725http://pastebin.com/FKRwkUfwI heard Shinobi Harpies.I have no idea if this thing was even legal with the houserules we had when I built it, let alone now. It's also not particularly optimized.
>>908757>Doesn't transform>Doesn't cloak>"Shinobi Harpy"Man... This isn't a shinobi harpy... THIS IS A NARUTO HARPY!Today is my last test this week, so when i get back from it i will show you a shinobi harpy.Also, i came up with this high risk very "Storm Dragon" plan on how to defeat the valkyre... I'm laughing just by thinking about it.
>>908757Thank you that cleared up my question
>>908834I did the best I could without actually using any Cloaking, since I didn't think it would be readily available at the time. It was a while back.
>>907261It's actually more complicated than that. Blast just determines how big the AOE is, damage goes up to 5K (I think), then starts counting up on a second hit until 5K, then a third hit, and so on, so a 20K burst missile would do 5K to four separately rolled locations UNLESS you deliberately chose to attack the target instead of their hex (McAllister did this), and then the surrounding targets would still have divided damage.
>>908890Thats okay anon, i know you couldn't have know this at that time.I'm thinking on doing a transformative active cloak harpy with a hikkikomori pilot who just get out of his cockpit when it matters for his survival(like getting food or exercice) and made his whole mech around this concept... Lets see how this goes.
>>909112Consider that Active Cloaking and Fighter Form already add an additional x0.6 on your total cost, which means you have an effective base of 87.5 CP to work with for frame and systems to meet 140 CP final cost.Lightweight frame and Superlight or Lightweight Armor take 30 or 38 CP respectively, and miscellaneous systems like your Cockpit and Sensors will take about 10 CP. Thrusters will also take about 10 CP if you want to go fast untransformed. So you've got about another 25-35 CP to work with for offensive and defensive systems - bearing in mind that Active Cloak doesn't hide you once you fire or when you close into melee.
>>909169Thats usually a fair amount for a mook of that class though. If you go standard melee it's not expensive and missiles/bombs are also cheap if you need something big. Shinobi Harpies are what I see serve as the Kestrel's sapper/ambush squad. Surprise round of attacks, blow up a important spot, then flee.
>>909231Also, the concept of this one will be "a mech to live inside" with a lesser ace taking it ease and leading mooks as if he was one of them.I'm thinking of making it an all rounder too.>"Himitsu-san, what you just did was so SUGOI-desu! I can't belive that you won against a pumpkinseed in one on one using just a custom harpy!">"Uhhhh,errr...I-its was luck, i guess, y-you know, when you pilot these things for time enough this things happen sometime y-you know?H-hahaha-ha...Ha...Ha..." says the lesser ace.
>>909457Hm. Made something like that with the Horseshoe a while back. Based off the Bigro I have been planning on adding a ECM system to it. Multiple seats too so someone can pilot while jamming or shooting the thing.
So what did you guys think of Amos' new missiles? He'll still have at least one of the original Heavy Missiles for emergency use, it has a bit more range (twice as much, actually, Heavy Missiles are situationally great) and damage at the cost of a point of WA and the Fuse effect.Incidentally, a bit about Jovian history, just while I'm thinking about it. The Jovian colonies were originally formed by a bunch of megawealthy neolibertarians who got rich off asteroid mining and went "REEEE EARTH REGULATIONS REEEEE TAXES REEEEE ROADS." And went full Galt's Gulch in Space around the time of the Nuclear Conflict. They had a tiny population up until Earth became uninhabitable, but then it snowballed with the influx of Terran colonists escaping the radiation and not wanting to live in squalor on Venus, which was at the time still being terraformed and wasn't yet a beautiful vacation planet with moss clouds and floating cities. Those who could afford the much more expensive ticket and long, long flight to Jupiter generally did, although it was incredibly dangerous in those days even before the pirate gangs of this era. There were also masses of people who literally went into debt-slavery to afford it (because there were no laws against doing that in space), which would much later provide some precedent for what was done to the Qu'liri, even down to genemodding them. Things went about as well as you would expect, descending into anarchy over the decades as mankind developed gate technology, explored the stars, created the Green Men, perfected terraforming, and established the CUSS. It was a slow slide, but it led into a deep pit, and as Jupiter's population boomed its culture decayed, and it went from an irrelevant but wealthy bloc of colonies to a sprawling colony-based civilization full of poverty, crime, madness, and civil war, known for the insane depravities at the highest levels and the insane deprivation at the lowest levels. It would have stayed a spaceborne ghetto with a few besieged colonies of ivory towers forever, had it not been for the so-called Decimus Reforms, spearheaded by the leader of an alliance of powerful corporations and PMCs. Ronald Decimus Pale was regarded as an eccentric, but his enthusiasm for the ideals of ancient Rome and his worship of the Greco-Roman pantheon (under predominantly Roman names) caught on when he restored order, ended intra-colony squabbling, put down the Ganymede Rebellion, uprooted the Enhanced Workers' Front, founded the UJCIDF to replace the previous colonial armies, and became the first Planetary Chairman, supported by the Citizens' Board of Directors and the Senate. He served for ten years and then retired, never involving himself with politics ever again.
>>910372It's a great strategic tool for tactics, capturing aces, and generally eating away actions of the enemy. Not a bad weapon for Amos and will see plenty of use. Could theoretically turn that one heavy missile AP for that little extra 'fuck that thing in particular' if possible, but up to you.Nice bit of background n Jupiter and explains a few things. Nice to have some more background on things. Incidentally, I have a little something in mind to discuss not so much as what happened, but the general state of affairs and situation that we know from the factions.I call it; Fairchild's Greed.
Incidentally, to expand on Pale being an eccentric slightly further, initially “Praise Jove!” in English or Latin was something his supporters would repeat with kind of tongue-in-cheek fondness, a nice remembrance of what was a very old man by the end of his political career. It caught on gradually and informally, and eventually legitimate clergy and temples started popping up like mushrooms on a rain-soaked log. What's nonsense a century ago might be tradition today, or vice versa. The standard UJCIDF uniform is a set of plain, dark green fatigues. However, noncommissioned officers get a more fancy version with white trousers and a dark green top. Corporals get a thunderbolt pin on each side of their collar, sergeants get two on each side. There are small gradations that you generally don't see in SOUL that get represented with slightly more or less trim on the uniforms, MPs are a good example. Generally it's something small like a patch on the arm representing that you're an MP or a mechanic or something similar, but with MPs you usually tell by their armor and for mechanics you can tell when someone's a bloody mechanic. Commissioned Officers start off with Ensigns wearing a double-breasted cyan shirt with brass buttons, white trousers, and black boots of a different style than an NCO's. Lieutenants have the same, except all in white with silver buttons and a number of silver arrows on their collar denoting degree. The concept of rank among, say, different Generals hasn't come up much yet, but in part that's because SOUL personnel are automatically at the highest degree for their rank. Post-Promotion Amos would outrank Pre-Promotion Asphodel, for example. This ranges between one and three. Ensigns get brass stars that serve the same purpose, but they start out with zero and go up to two. Captains have a very similar uniform to Lieutenants, but with gold in place of silver, along with a small hat. Captain Matthias Clearwater never wears his hat, and has had his shirt unbuttoned as long as Amos has known him. General Fairchild, back in her Captain days, kept it perpetually crisp and precise and chose a sort of tiara with two prongs that her PC could hook into to become a headset, a practice she's kept to to this day even though it isn't standard uniform. The upper ranks are a bit more complicated, because they allow for more customization, but I'll write more about them in a later thread. >>910480Tell me more.
>>910664It's nothing to fancy, setting up the field, looking at the factions, their resources, decisions, pilot stats, and general tech from what I have seen.Speaking of; THE MAPFrom what you've told us, we got the solar system, Avalon, and a good number of planets that have human life and importance in the war. The Solar system have a large ammount of human resources(by basically being the origin point, even after the wars ate 2/3rds of humanity) while Avalon had a lot of natural resources to make their machines. If I were to go by a Ghiren's greed map, Avalon would be in Zeon's position(red) and the Navy fittingly on Earth in Blue. They have an out of Sol Presence, but the size I am not sure of(other than it's military presence has quite a few Wels). In the scheme of things, Roarke would be in Jaburo and thus a gods damned pain to remove for everyone involved.
>>910372>>910480reading this, there will be questions.Also:>Ancap "paradise">Descending into madness and "death of culture">Not descending into a bunch of too idealistic city states with various degrees of "crime"(Evil things like debt-slavery,gene moding your servants agaisnt their will because they wrote in a paper that you could do it because they were desesperate enough for it, assuming control of justice systems in certain colonies, heavy conditioning through "public education" and so on... That can be done "legaly" in an ancap superpopuled ancap state if you are smart enough) that are too much interconected between themselfs but keeping fighting in corporate-shadow wars to dominate the cultural landscape and became almost literal "Kingdoms","principates","Perfect Comunist Society" and so on...>Not producing more dangerous things that they can safely introduce to population per year>Not selling drugs, creating hordes of people dependent on you, getting very bad PR and end up arrested into a prolongated conflict because your neighboors decided to block everyone's relations to you and starve you to death because no one is going to help you anyway.>Not having rival factions duel it out openly because there is no unified justice systems and they ended up to a draw in a dispute and decided that it would just be cheaper to explode their enemy with any real claim they may have in the question being discuted.>Not having "Thatguy" who literaly made up a space statetist colony with taxes and everything, forces everyone who lives inside it to depend on one unified system of justice and isn't a total jerk(still being a jerk) while just changing names of all of this things and using is rights of propriety to justify that "What! My Colony totaly isn't a monarchy!">Not having "Thatguycolony" still being a colony to this day because even badly... It just works.>>>>>Not having andrew ryan discursing about parasites and "the great chain" while burning florest just to deny other people from taking it from him.With love, from Ancap Brazilia-chan.
Now mind you, there is some things that won't fit. Earth itself doesn't provide troops, but does help with tech and the like so would be neutral, and Mars has a odd tie with Jove as can be seen in.. Factions!UJCIDF: 'Led' by Fairchild, they got a few things going for them and a lot not. Low on aces, starting machines are weak compared to Avalon's, but their numbers can mean throwing tons of them with impunity. They also have a good technology growth, plenty of rookies that can grow fast, and plenty of production. They aren't tied down by the Green Lady for their Ace machine construction either so that could be an advantage. They have Mars too, but thats a tie due to their shared dislike of Avalon and if Fairchild messed up, they could split. As is, Fairchild feels like she is neutral leaning towards chaos but not going full chaos just yet. Chaos and Law basically being the Ghiren Greed alignment. Tax people, fire nukes, invade places, and generally be space hitler, you become Chaos. Don't and you start to go law. Reason why she isn't flat out Space Hitler is because she at least hides it.. mostly.Avalon: Hoo boy. Different situation to the Navy. They got the money, good aces, and skilled pilots, but not many pilots and their suit production is low. Their aces are practically fully developed and as we seen recently with Hector, do not see eye to eye. That could lead to issues like 'not helping an ally because that guy is a dick and deserves it' or other fun things that could rival Zabi shenanigans. It also means that their commanders are also constantly on the battlefield and losing one can really hurt the command structure. I'd say Avalon might hurt in tech once the Navy catches up, but they also seem to be leaning Law. Though thats because we haven't seen their bullshit just yet.The Belt: Then we have THESE guys! Plenty of Aces with Roarke being a strong contender to a Paladin, a good number of rookies who grow fast, good ace machines, and economy that leeches off those who deal with them. Though, considering their size, they would be more like an event than a proper faction. Probably akin to the White Base event chain into how it can screw things over for those involved in it. It's no where near the same size to the other two, but the aces and their machines make it a nasty thorn when you add in the nature of the belt. Makes sense that Fairchild would want to remove them. As is, Roarke is more heavy law than Avalon. Yes we loot and pillage, but we also tend to put down bullshit like the green skulls and not use their sort of crap.
>>910372Okay lets go:>What happened to the old ruling families that owned everything? Did they losed all direct political power or have they kept some tinybits as their personal fiefs that can only be outruled by the Jupiter govern itself?(And do this guys keep the old degenerate Not!Ancap "Roman traditions" of doing degenarate things hidden from the eyes of the public?)>What happened to all the genemoded servants and "high-class" people created during all the years of anarchy?And what exactly tends to happen when these mods go down through a few generations? Do they simply dissapear? Or can random descendants be born with "super-human" characteristics two or three generations down the line?(Because it would be very cool if it happened, and could make great character plots of people dealing with the consequences of their ancestors hubris... Some girl being born a neko in a high-class family and developing an unusual personatily as result of the social pressure, some boy discover some impressive ability that makes him a target to corrupted Fairchild's mooks that want to "recruit" him, some normal guy with a uneventful life discover that he will live far more than the normal human life and tries to make a diference in the world after even his sons died of old age before him, some poor unlucky girl from a lunarian catholic background "accidentaly discovers" that she has futa-genes as she goes through puberty..."How the ***** am i going to explain or hide this?")>What about robot waifus? Ancaps would probably go crazy at the first opportunity of getting sweet robot ass.>Of how many colonies are we speaking of?No need to the exactly number if you don't want to reveal that, but are we speaking about 3-6 colonies?Or 12-50?>About the other jovian planets... Do they count as part of the UJCIDF jurisdiction? Or do they have their own things going on for them?>Do any ancap "free territories" still exist in the solar system?I can imagine some smal personal fiefdoms existing in far and almost irrelevant places as some megawealthy guys go be excentric millionaires in near isolation... Or you their "Private spaces" to hide shady things to other powers to garantee their eternal financial well-being and personal freedom by allying with the powerful and rich classes of solar governs.>How much does people know about other planets?I mean, quliri slaves must be a kind of urban myth at worse case or an old scaldan in terms of notoriety in the better one, and people probably know about jergal... But what about other systems?>Mars wasn't islamic before the war, and many people probably escaped from there before the sporing and madness took place... What happened to those people?I know that they probably went to diferent ways, but is there some "martian refugee" ghetto out there?>Is meme magic dead? Or is Akai right and EVERYTHING is meme magic?
>>910872>UJCIDF: Earth's Federation>Avalon: Zeon>Kestrels: AEUG>Earth: Literally that guys from Harlock>Mars:Literally just muslims led by Hakim: That old warrior that has seen too much and gone too far to be really be a trigger-happy fanatic and that is kinda pessimistic/realistic in most topics while still trying to do things he considers right and protect his people by being an old fox with old tricks in his sleeve.>>>>Quliri's Rebels:Social Justice Kitty Kongs with no real combat experience and too idealistic expectations of their performance because "muh genemods".
>>911048I Thought we were zeon, you know with wanting to colony drop the earthnoids?
Point by point.>What happened to the old ruling families that owned everything? Did they losed all direct political power or have they kept some tinybits as their personal fiefs that can only be outruled by the Jupiter govern itself?(And do this guys keep the old degenerate Not!Ancap "Roman traditions" of doing degenarate things hidden from the eyes of the public?)The mob simply going full pirate and conquering the fiefs of the ruling families was a real risk back then, enough of them supported the Decimus reforms to keep their traditions alive. Many DO own private colonies, but...libertarians and monarchists are very different, you don't see the "ruling families" you do on Mars so much as the directorships of major corporations and independently wealthy individuals. >What happened to all the genemoded servants and "high-class" people created during all the years of anarchy?And what exactly tends to happen when these mods go down through a few generations? Do they simply dissapear? Or can random descendants be born with "super-human" characteristics two or three generations down the line?(Because it would be very cool if it happened, and could make great character plots of people dealing with the consequences of their ancestors hubris...The Enhanced Workers' Front and the terrorism it perpetrated led to a fair amount of anti-genemod sentiment on Jupiter that wasn't present on most other planets prior to the War. Particularly Mars. Jupiter is a gas giant and a colony culture, they didn't particularly want to rely on the increasingly influential and powerful Green Men the way everyone else was doing. No genocides, but genemods became more or less illegal on Jupiter for a long time. Ironically, many of them went to the Moon, the RCC was at the time extremely weak (and brands of protestantism spanning more than one colony virtually nonexistent, although it caused at least one civil war on an extrasolar planet) but its current pope was one of the few galactic leaders that wasn't bound by CUSS policies or Jupiter or Mars and viewed it as a biblical act to welcome them into the Church. >robot waifusAI is highly regulated, no one wants another NaNa-01>Of how many colonies are we speaking of?No need to the exactly number if you don't want to reveal that, but are we speaking about 3-6 colonies?Or 12-50?Hundreds, but keep in mind colony size varies wildly. One built to support a few hunded workers on an asteroid mine is a fraction the size of a leviathan like Auditorium which supports a large city and an entire artificial lake. A lot of Jupiter's income also comes from building colonies and using their gate to place them at their destination.>About the other jovian planets... Do they count as part of the UJCIDF jurisdiction? Or do they have their own things going on for them?They provide levies to the UJCIDF, but also have their own colony forces for law enforcement and self defense.
>>911087>Implying that a very important member of AUEG wasn't involved in at least 2 colony drops.
>>911048Pretty much, but that changes a bit when you look at MACHINES AND PILOTS.In terms of machines, the UJCIDF would be more akin to Zeon. Lots of variety, strong machines, and dead ends due to power struggles and shenanigans. They aren't strong aside from the aces, but they can be belted out and are strong enough. Their pilot situation is also a mixed bag. You have Sam and Pierre to start, seasoned and simple aces with some specialty, Fairchild who is a charisma and leadership monster, Clemmy and First Mate for melee monsters, and the SOUL rookies who grow fast and strong.. except for Jesus who makes me think of a trap pilot. Looks promising, but isn't.Avalon's issue is they got a lot of Ace customs and not a lot of anything else. Paladins are major investments of time and resources and one destroyed Paladin strider will likely take a month to remake. Mind you their regenerative nature makes replacement parts more of a non issue so there is that. Again, with their ace units being their commanders, the major pilots for Avalon are a mix of both and then some thanks to the gene mods. They also seem to be more focused than some of the SOUL pilots. Pierre can do a mix of things while Lori is melee. This can also lead to issues, and if the enemy keeps growing, they lose their advantage since as is, they seem as good as they can get.The Belt: Whooo boy. How to explain Roarke; In game terms, Roarke was already developed for a fighter. His stats for combat were crazy. Now though, he's filling up leadership, charisma, and general knowledge as well as polishing his personal skills. Oda is pretty good, and the wives in general can be a threat. Moe himself is becoming a strong fighter too and is learning a bit of everything and being so close together means the aces are put to better use and aren't spread thin.
>>911019>Do any ancap "free territories" still exist in the solar system?I can imagine some smal personal fiefdoms existing in far and almost irrelevant places as some megawealthy guys go be excentric millionaires in near isolation... Or you their "Private spaces" to hide shady things to other powers to garantee their eternal financial well-being and personal freedom by allying with the powerful and rich classes of solar governs.Probably, space is tremendous and a lot of stuff was just flat-out...lost when the CUSS fell. The SSL isn't so much a successor to CUSS, as it is a much smaller civilization trying to fill the power gap left by a giant.>How much does people know about other planets?I mean, quliri slaves must be a kind of urban myth at worse case or an old scaldan in terms of notoriety in the better one, and people probably know about jergal... But what about other systems?Vague rumors unless the planet is famous for something, but yes people know about what was happening with events like that. The CUSS doesn't get a free pass from modern scholars. The problem isn't that there isn't much information, it's that there's so much that sifting out truth from bullshit is hard.>Mars wasn't islamic before the war, and many people probably escaped from there before the sporing and madness took place... What happened to those people?I know that they probably went to diferent ways, but is there some "martian refugee" ghetto out there?They died. They died by the thousands and the millions. They died when the Hakimite artillery turned their cities to ash and rubble. They died when the UJCIDF lined up dozens of battleships and shot down their escaping ships. They died to swords, knives, machetes, axes, guns of every possible descriptor. Some were torn apart or strangled. Some were run over by tanks. Some were rebuilt as living biocomputers into the cores of subordinate bio-armors designed to safeguard their masters. See, the problem is that you're making an assumption, that many people escaped before the sporing. The sporing had been going on for so long that anyone who had got out before then had had descendants that probably no longer thought of themselves as Martian. The only people who happened to be living far enough away from the cities to avoid sporing were the Muslim traditionalist minority. >Is meme magic dead? Or is Akai right and EVERYTHING is meme magic?You have to believe and find that answer out for yourself.>>911048This reminds me a bit of that poster who said Keith is aware that certain people dislike him and is trying to be a hero of a certain sort so people will like him. It reminds me of it because it's cutely wrong.
>>911108IMHO, UJCIDF feels more like Titans Era Federation if anything else. Lots of experimental tech from lessons learnt in the previous conflict. A semi-rogue independent agency committing war crimes. And a powerful third party waging war in the background.
>>911112So, how long between the start of the sporing and the actual start of the Great Sidereal War? Is it possible that there's a Cassandra-type non-Hakimite Martian family who tried to warn everyone but failed and left before shit got worse?
>>911112>HakimNow you made me afraid...Also>pic related>tfw Akai meme herself to victory by using ancient memetic to power her attacks.>>911120THIS
>>911019>some poor unlucky girl from a lunarian catholic background "accidentaly discovers" that she has futa-genes as she goes through puberty..."How the ***** am i going to explain or hide this?")...Brazilia, is this from a doujin or something?
>>911108UJCIDF is more like EFF honestly. Super corrupt at the top, human wave tactics, not many aces though the ones they have are good, and having one base unit they mostly stick withAvalon is more Zeon with lots of aces and customs
>>911226Tell me Wong any interesting planets that we'll most likely never get to see? And whats something interesting you've come up with that your dying for us to ask you about?
Without touching on who's more like which faction, I feel like the EF comparison is helpful for understanding the CUSS. The EF after the One Year Was, much like the CUSS, had no control over its far-flung provinces and was riddled with incredible amounts of corruption. "Selling off the citizens of your own planet with involuntary genemods that can be passed on and will breed true for enough money to build another palace" levels of corruption.
>>911226No, i really just made this up when thinking: "It would be cool if more mutants show up for the toruney...Hmm... I could give some crazy ideas to Wong, but i have no idea of what else exists on this plan excepting "everyouth" and "neko"... Wait, didn't he said something about futas that time when i asked him about it? What about a futa pilot? Meh, what difference would it even make?...Well, it could have something to do with her motivation for getting the prize, i mean, what if she had some reason to get rid of one of her parts and needed the money to do it?Hmm... This is sounding too much degenerate/SJW/leftists views on gender to me... But i could be wrong as it is a result from direct human intervention on genetic code... But what sort of background would make someone even care about this on the "Space Madness Future"?Well, she could be a traditional christian from Luna and be going nuts with all of this hermafrodite thing... Hahahaha, not a bad idea now! And it would make all the space madness even stronger if other people get involved with her problems! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!Man, Wong would never listen to this, "Genemoded descendants on Luna" hahahaha, what am i thinking?Right?"And then you:>Ironically, many of them went to the Moon, the RCC was at the time extremely weak (and brands of protestantism spanning more than one colony virtually nonexistent, although it caused at least one civil war on an extrasolar planet) but its current pope was one of the few galactic leaders that wasn't bound by CUSS policies or Jupiter or Mars and viewed it as a biblical act to welcome them into the Church. >mfw
>>911245Paley's World. It's a beautiful, oceanic planet known for its complex multilunar tides and currents, its underwater and island cities, and the the way its oceans glow at night with bioluminescent krill and equally bioluminescent whales. In my mind it's a truly beautiful place, as dangerous as it is, but there's simply no reason to go there for the foreseeable future.Thank you for your second question, I'd need to think on it, there are a of of them. I told you that most ace mecha have multiple simple AI systems that keep them working, right? In a sense, Grapple-chan is real, there has never been any reason to even alter the relatively complex neural network that works the harpoon.
>>911251I think a futa nun is a bit beyond the pale, even though one of the waifus is already a trap ninja cop swordswoman pirate.
>>911261i never said a nun, even if i admit that it passed through my head, because i thought that it would be too much weight on the emotional of the poor girl... But it would make sense.Nah, she could probably just be a normal girl from a relatively conservative family that is very ashamed of the situation and don't know on how to deal with it, that would go to the tourney against her parents will to end this situation.But then she gets in auditorium and is exposed to all space madness that test her faith daily... Or even worse, she gets to know smug protestants who tries to outsmart her in theological debates to laugh at her squirming to reply.It could get even more funny if she compaints about her "stupid degenerate great-grandfather" everytime she is reminded of the situation.What do you think?XD
Also, here is the Shinobi Harpy i've been talking about, it didn't end so well because of the weird tastes of the pilot... But its still cool!http://pastebin.com/jnXUWuh1I used the "Everyouth" genemod to this one... Is he too much "snowflakery"?
This girl... Is perfect Roarke's daughter material.
>>911255Easy. Avalonian Vacation/Prison World. It's a prison world to pacify/detain HVTs before bring them into the fold on Avalon itself. Can't have hostiles with full mental faculties meet with the Lady of the Woods.Avalon kidnaps one of Roarke's waifu, preferable some rival of Duke Eustace. Brings her to Paley's for conversion and tempting Roarke to join the Principalty. Hilarity ensued.
>>911316>Avalonian Vacation/Prison WorldCould work.>>911255Also, now that you mentioned it, Lori already talked a bit about it.. And about someplace with people who have "bio-instruments" on their throaths too.>>911245Thanks thunder, i would have asked this, but i was too tired and decided to go with more direct questions.>>911261>Having trap ninja cop swordswoman pirate waifu.>Not having innocent catholic schoolgirl futa who gets bullied by everyone (with penis jokes), and can't get a boyfriend because of her "problem"... At least not until she knows the right pirate rookie that just doesn't care because of space madness.
>>911609Might not want to push it too far. Some stuff has to come naturally and futa nuns just seem off. Now TRAP nuns are less a issue in my eye.Now I must do a slight modification to the dutchman after realizing something and then fill the last bit of info with Fairchild's Greed.
>>911271Denied, no genemods.>>911268>>911609Denied. The problem is, when her main source of drama is her dong it becomes magical realm. Samantha would still have most of her current problems if she didn't have one, mostly finding out what a monster Fairchild is and refusing to fight for her goals anymore despite privately feeling like she's let Colonel Stern down, plus competing with Notorious Ace Clemmy.
>>912112How does the handcuff stay on?
>>912127Hula-hoop or magic trap powers. It's the same series with a crazy space bending surgeon, a super vampire dandy, and the ninja president of the united states. I try not to think about the whys too much.
>>912142Anywho, last bit of set up is the Events and Situation as it were.Now, we know the basis of the big stuff. Trying to deal with the belt, Fairchild loses aces, ace machines, and general resources in her equivalent of 'White Base Mode' when it came to Roarke while Avalon loses 1 Paladin with roarke and another from trying to go after the president's son and getting a Wedge driven into their efforts. The smaller events so far are also important though. Jove has a lot of projects strewn about, including old ones and new ones. Neverland, the Psyche 16 experiments, Project Skywalker, and the constant propaganda commercials to drum up tons of support. It does have results with SOUL and it's pilots, but also costs. Psyche 16 cost her a captain, a ship and entire SOUL team, but it gave her a major propaganda piece, weakens Avalon in the solar system, and makes a potential threat have to think twice about attacking her since his forces have been split.Avalon so far seems a bit more in lined with the Zabi shenanigan situation. The Paladins don't see eye to eye and a commander would have to deal with those sort of things. Imagine if Lori didn't try to leave on her own or stuck to Psyche with her cousin's men? Imagine if the Duchess worked more closely with the other Paladin while on the Planet of the Cats. Small feuds can cause big problems, but we will have to see how it pans out in the future. For them, Amos Wedge and SOUL C could be their 'White Base' scenario. Especially if Fairchild gives them what they need.
>>912112>>912119>Might not want to push it too far.Thats okay, i'm not serious about that character, it was just some ridiculous idea that passed through my mind and i thought it was funny enough to share with you guys, the rest were mostly joking comments, including last one...>The problem is, when her main source of drama is her dong it becomes magical realm....But if you are interested in this plot hook you could just change the focus to other thing instead of her dong,per example, "she could be an orphan who was abandoned in the door of a orphanate managed by nuns because her parents knew what she was to become, then she grews up with little education more than what the nuns could teach the children, poor funded public school and what she could learn by herself in the internet and in the library of the convent, she takes some irregular one-time jobs here and there but doesn't really get much experience in anything while failing to get in public universities, but she at least discover something that she is good in: Bluegill Joe, and start gaining small prices in tourneys here and there. But she is getting too older to be living in the orphanate,and can't join the nuns because of the genemod thing that shows up during her puberty, without many options she ends up joining this very shady and suspicious looking Bluegill Joe Tourney who gives mechs as rewards... And it turns out to be a secret project of the Lunarian army to pick up promising young pilots that may be able to get recruited into the kestrels...And be their spies."Money don't grow in trees" so she accepts and ends up going to the tourney with the hope of doing her best and getting a way to survive out of this."... Better?But don't need to take this much seriously, it was just a random idea, not something i would defend to death XD.>Now TRAP nuns are less a issue in my eye.Futas>TrapsAlso, nuns are sacred man, don't mess with nuns.>Denied, no genemods.Huh, i didn't expected that it would have any chance of being accepted when i already have Akai... So denied for what? IS THE SHINOBI HARPY PIT FIGHT GOING TO HAPPEN?!>Editing the pilot now.
Annnd here is the Dutchman once more. I keep on forgetting things so hopefully this will be the last modification. Mind you, I am kind of proud of this idea along-side the hydraulics and quick-swap system. Hopefully I can prove it's worth.
>>912778And being senile in my old age, I forgot the pastebin. Here we go. http://pastebin.com/YnhC0xA0
>>912785It would take some time to compare to the older version... Did you changed something in the basic frame and standart layout? Should i change the Space Jam pastebin?Also, please send your shinobi harpy, it seems to be a thing now.
>>912874A few modifications to the base and a slight change to the melee and Manly load out, but more to go with something I realized with the Dutchman. So yes, this is hopefully the final rendition. The scissor knife sadly was just not really worth it considering the weight and lack of oomph it had for it's high cost. The other thing I want to see if someone can notice it first before discussing it.
>>912874Would you mind Updating the Wraith on the Space Jam sheet Please Brazilia-Chan
>>912916>>912900Let me just be done writing my Shinobi Harpy pilot and i will be on it.Also, Wraith-Kouhai, if you could just discover what is it that is making Dutch-senpai act more mysterious and smug than a Paladin on Qu'lir, i would appreaciate it, ^~.
>>912950Looks like the updated Dutchman has a few more weapon load outs and some background info compared to what is on the Space Jam sheet
>http://pastebin.com/jnXUWuh1Is it okay now, Wong?
>>912982No, I forgot to put in the Guard a few versions back, but that's not it. Thank you for catching that though.
>>912900Sasuga Dutch senpai, finally got to add the hands you have being speaking about for so much time, huh?Question: Does it's WA bonus apply to handheld weapons?Also, more grenades, range 0 more killy grenades, could be a very useful situational weapon for when you need just a little bit of exceptional oomph or plain brute area damage.
>>913211There we go. The G. Hands are the main thing I am happy about. Rather than being quick I exchanged that for +2WA at the same value. Figured it would exchange speed and quick reaction times for a sturdier, more stable connection with improved hydraulic grip strength, and control. The reason for this is simple; these hands are not meant strictly for hitting, but Grappling.The grenades for standard are my anti-cheeki breeki weapon. While it is not as fast, killy, agile, or sturdy as the competition, it is a reliable machine that can get the job done for the team while also serving as a good machine to breed aces.Also it's really fascinating that Pin gives a plus one to hit and would theoretically prevent someone from using both hands while I have one hand free to beat stuff with!
>>913211You have the wrong Wraith Paste Bin Brazilia-ChanHere is the Current Buildhttp://pastebin.com/nG5c2Cd4That's the old Wraith Wong Didn't like Because of the Charge weapon and not having the Stealth Modifier
>>913258Hm... A very interesting choice indeed... Yes, you are right on this, 1K hands on a medium striker torso will not do much damage anyway even if they are quick, what makes focusing in the special movements the handa can do a more intelligent choice... Hm...Good call, how didn't anyone thought of this before?.Also, Grenades are a very good choice if you can have your enemies in throwing range, but this can be difficulted if you aren't in a melee battle.>>913365Oops, sorry kouhai, i'm having a headache right now and its being a little difficult to stare at the screen if not in very short spans of time... Soooo i kinda edited without looking, hehehehe, sorry.
>>910725Interesting. I can clarify on that, if you like, since Caesar and Amos might vaguely know this and I'll go over it in more detail IC. The SSL and Avalon each control one system. Avalon is used more or less to describe the faction, but it's also the name of the system they hail from, and their home planet of Avalon Prime. The Avalon system has two secondary worlds, Avalon II and Avalon III. Avalon II is a gas giant known for its luminous green rings, while Avalon III is small and rocky. Both are used for mining, but as you can see the Solar System has significantly more resources at its very base, before taking into account any tithes or levies from worlds outside the system. However, as you're also aware, that edge in resources comes with a price, the SSL is nowhere near as unified as the monocultured Avalonians and it adversely affects their organization. One might point out, though, that Avalon's military is literally led by knights, at least where mecha operations are concerned, and that in itself has problems. It could be worse, though, nobility-based command structures usually don't have a Green Man handpicking which ones are in charge and giving them genemods.>>912702No, I mean there's no chance of them showing up. I did say the church accepted them, but I never said anything else, did I?>>913365I didn't so much dislike it as thought that hiding for three turns and attacking once would make for boring fights.
>>913548What, oh sorry, i was talking about the Shinobi Harpy not being accepted, i mistook your comment for a confirmation on the Shinobi Harpy Battle Pit Happening, not that genemoded contestants would appear
>>913548I get thatThe charge up was just the easiest way I could think of to get extra CP backDid you see the new Wraith design Wong? http://pastebin.com/nG5c2Cd4
>>913547Because grappling and techniques do neither damage for the most part and do not benefit from quick. They are great for set ups, depriving a strong unit of their big weapon, or keeping the enemy dazed, but they aren't very kill happy. I mean, could you imagine Keith screaming while one Dutchman bear hugs him and two others pluck his wings? Hilarity. And yes, the flaw with the grenades is their range, but Blast weapons are harder to use the further away you go. I can probably throw all 3 grenades and have all three hit their mark with the range of 4.
>>913548Some avalonian questions:>Can genemods affect your mind?>Please give us detail on how Lori's followers are feeling about their "prolonged stay" at Auditorium? Are they butthurt about being stuck there for the time being? How are they dealing with solar culture? Are they getting enough supplies to repair the ship or are the Kestrels preferring to kept them far from the that achievement? Are they venturing out of the ship to see what lies beyond? What were their reaction to each pirate crew(I assume that they would react in different ways depending on the crew)?>Is Avalon winning in any system besides their own? And what is the situation on the other side of Qu'lir?>HOW IN ASGARD DID FLOYD AND MERROW LET THE GREENLADY SURVIVE!? She crashes into the planet and they don't even bother to check if she is alive?>...Are Avalonian cities named after famous medieval fantasy ones?>Can you give us pics of avalonian things that we aren't even probably of ever seen anyway with little descriptions of what they are? like your description of Palley's World.>>913644I admit recognizing the wisdom in your words senpai, but you'll have to play this with care as you need to get closer to make use of this advantage, what will be hard when dealing if long range heavy weapons mechs and very dangerous when dealing with one-hitters.Also... i feel bad for the Zakus trying to disarm Keith man, many of them will probably job before getting to him.>tfw in the last battle of the tourney: Its Roarke vs Doan.
>>914091A thing to consider is that Keith is an idiot when it comes to strategy. He likes to be very far away from the action, so having a transport on standby with a strike team might get some men through. There is also the fact that Keith is also a idiot when it comes to his machine. It shows a lot of fire power, yes, but only when facing forward. He also has a heavy machine with no defenses or bonuses for his main weapon. Even with a 17 he rolls at a 12. Meanwhile, A class team of Dutchmen roll at 13 with a shield for two defense rolls. Getting close with those wings would be trouble for the front, but if someone moved behind him, he'd be safe and in a good position to grab him. Once that happens, to break out he'd have to do a Mech Fighting roll against the dutchman. In his bulky machine. With no points in it. Then the guy just swerves around so he faces Keith's allies and watch as Keith team kills AGAIN.
>>914211Okay:1-Why wouldn't him just use the "Wings of SOMETHING" on the zakus firing a multiple of them at once?2-Can Dutchmen survive shots from him if they parry?
>>914370His wings of bullshit may be anti army, but they are still 7 kill weapons and only fire in a arc in front of him. They are not 360 weapons. The light shoulder shield of the Standard is 6 SP and it's armor is 5. So if it blocks that is 1 kill of damage. It's armor is juuust thick enough that it can get hit in the torso and not die from the first hit. As for the tricks of this machine, you forget one thing; All his weapons are beam and the Guard packs both a heavier shield and anti beam chaff. Throw one down and watch as he can't do jack with those wings. Then there is the Ranged variant and it's own sniper rifle. It'd fire at a 12 when A rank, but it has a reactive shield. So yes, Dutchmen could survive an encounter with him.
Hey Wong, is a spy an ok character concept for the space jam?
>>914477Shoot, meant active shield. Either way, not going to be easy and if you keep them on opposite ends, then for Keith to face one he'd open his back to the other... which means PEW PEW to the back.
>>914477This is what i'm seeing on this fight:>Keith is bullshit levels of far from the real fight being smug.(thats assuming that he is alone and not being protected by some S-Bullshit)>Transport jumps 1km or so from him, Dutchmen start flying out of it.>Keith thinks that they are easy game, fire wings of bullshit on them, they dodge/parry.>TRIGERRED.jpeg>Fire once more, ittle to no effect, Dutchmen are almost on him.Then OR:>Starts flying to escape them and trying to fire with his main cannon when he gets away enough.>be useless for the rest of the fight because elite mooks are bullying him on turning tail.>His friends job without him.OR:>Decides to fight mooks on melee because "They are just mooks, what possibly could go wrong"?>Shoot through some shields, but probably no serious damage on them anyway.>Dutchmen mob on him.>They go full scavvie on him.>Even if his friends win, mooks use him as hostage.>KEKProblem is, S-Sadism will probably be there to whip and smoke them as Keith shoots them with bonuses because of his ASP.
>>914689ASP really doesn't give accuracy bonuses when it comes to that sort of thing. It'll see through smoke screens, but these are beam scatter grenades only and the Guard models also have anti missile weaponry so no blast shenanigans. I can see the S-Sodomy causing trouble, but she's a proper ace so thats a given.wonder how Wong feels, us shit talking Keith and plotting very possible scenarios where a gundam is bullied by zakus.
>>914749Do we know the blast of their smoke missiles? For all we know they could hide themselfs behind a wall of smoke while being bombed by zakus who may be in range to get whiped...There is also the beam-scatter, but we don't know who is going to run out of missiles/grenades first.>Gundam being bullied by zakus.
>>914749So... What is your top enemies for the tourney?My top:1-Dutchman2-Loggerhead3-Lightning/ValkyreWorth Mentioning: Myrmdon/Wraith/TemplarAnd considering the number of contestants... We'll have 3 PVP fights max before the grand finale duel to win the privilege of fighting Roarke the Pirate King himself!Other Fights i would like to see:Phycide x LoggerheadValkyre x Lightning/Huskarl(One Hitters Duel)Libra/Myrm x WraithTemplar x Pumpkinseed Jager
>>914927Lightning VS WALKUREEither Lightning blows up gloriously by a 24K missile, or he utterly rekts face.
Question, does it take an action to switch weapons forms when you've mated them?This question will determine whether I rebuild the Libra or not.
>>914927What I thought might be neat would be getting the top 2-3 guys in the tourney to fight roarke to get over the massive points difference.
>>915045Once more into the Abyss that is the ATM, then.Hopefully this time I'll build something I won't have to make a million revisions for. Still, once I'm done I'm hoping I'll have a weapon that is worth the high CP cost.
>>915053You'd think that's bad. Then realize everyone from old grannies to teenagers with attitude somehow have access to EMWs. Makes a poor Tourney Ace rage at the unfairness of it all.
>>915063It's mostly that I realize how inefficient the CROWE's current form is. Instead of making a million different mated forms, I can just make a base CROWE that's mated with a phalanx weapon, and then just slap on Multi-feed 2 and have different ammo types people can pick and choose from and have it more or less work the same way as the old one. Plus, If it works out, the CROWE will be stronger, lighter, and hopefully less expensive.
>>915063Who needs EMWs when you can get armour piercing or set people on fire?
>>915079Who needs guns when you can RIP AND TEAR
Alright, here's what I've got right now for the new CROWE. everything is subject to change later.CROWE revision. Gun 1 - Range 400m, WA 0 (+1 with Tracers), 7k, Multi-feed 2, BV 3, Tracer Ammo (+1 WA) + Grenade Ammo (Blast 1), Ammo 10 bursts (5 with grenades)Gun 2 - Range 150m, WA +2, 1 k, BV 8, Phalanx (anti-missile) Ammo 20 burstsMy brain is too tired for all this math bullshit, so I'll finish the rebuild later.
>>914927I'd say it's the one hit kill units. Unless I get initiative first, chances are I lose. Oddly enough, the standard loadout has the highest chance of winning against them if there is a standard distance between contestants. Then again, if that distance is the same and the Dutchman gets initiative, it could pin the Wraith and start plucking limbs off.
>>915569What will be the starting distance? I Feel that it should at least be more than 600m or some units would open by dropkick.... Maybe 1KM to give the snipers a chance for paying for their extended range and such.Ah, and i was meaning to ask you "who you wanted to fight" the most, not "who is your counter" i'm sorry, i worded it wrong i guess... Also, would you like to have your first fight be with the Walkure? Or to wait for us to face each other in the finals/semi-finals and risk it not happening because of one-hitters getting the iniciative?If i could choose, i think that it would be cool if it was:First Duel-Templar/Myrm or WraithSecond-LoggerheadThird-ValkyreFinal Match-Dutchman>>915114Hmmmm...Not bad, do BV hit in the same servo or each hit roll separately?The granade is also a solid choice has discussed before because of the Dutchman... But i don't know if high burst Phalanx is much usefull has any serious missile user is probably going to burn luck on his roll if he is going to missile spam someone, what will transform this situation on a "who burns more luck and has more WA" battle.>>915080Who needs「RIP AND TEAR」 when you have your 「FISTS」?
>>915693I would like to fight Walkure the most because once the rock and missiles are gone it becomes an engaging match of fisticuffs. A battle of many small hits versus accurate big hits and techniques. Fighting first means no chance of either of us being knocked out before the fight and it can set the tone of the competition. As for distance, 200 to 400 makes sense to me. 4-8 spaces so even slower movements could land one volley of attacks in while range units could comfortably fire for a turn. Maybe more for those who use long range to make use of that advantage.
>>915693That was just something I threw together when I was half asleep. Here is what I've got now for the CROWE.Handheld ZX-21 C.R.O.W.E (Combat Raid Offensive WEapon) Standard Configuration - 44.8 CP, 5.08 tons (See below for additional details)Gun 1 (FAIZ) - Range 350m, WA 0 (+1 with Tracers), 6k, Multi-feed 2, BV 3, Tracer Ammo (10 bursts) + Grenade Ammo (Blast 1) (5 bursts), 2 reloads (Tracers) 1 reload (grenades)Gun 2 (IOTA) - Range 150m, WA +2, 1 k, BV 5, Phalanx (anti-missile) Ammo 10 bursts.I'm still not done, since I need to factor in a bunch of other bullshit including the Sniper and Ester variants and also double check my math but fuck it, I've been dealing with this bullshit for about 3 hours and I need a break.
>>915712>200m being okayDutch-senpai, i've got to disagree with you on that.The thing is, this tourney follows the fuction of testing various officer designs to be produced to fill our ships... And most fights do not begin in this distance, on the contrary, they tend to begin with units running to each other with at least one or two kilometers of distance between them, not reproducing this to at least some extent would be not fair with units that uses their range and high MA to do their job and would give heavy advantage to one hitters who could potentialy just job when facing a sniper that is not in their imediate range.In short, to be fair and choose wisely we have make a starting distance of more than 600m(max MA for first turn) or face great bias on the matter.
>>916202fair enough. It would mean that ranged units would have a chance to shine even when dealing with melee units so I can't fault it. Also deals with the one hit killers who need just to get initiative to stand a chance.
>>916246The question then is, how much far from each other should they start?Suggestions:>650mA max-speed unit could spend their whole turn to get in attacking range of their enemy, that could in response either try to attack two times or escape.>850mIf a melee unit went max spend to their enemy, even a 8MA mech could get either get in ranged to do a melee attack or try to run somewhat.>1000mA normal 8MA unit would take 5 actions to dropkick their enemy if it didn't move, 12+MA mechs would take two turns to dropkick if their enemy didn't moved. This would let the long-rangers shine.>1200mMax range for Heavy Missiles, at this point range and MA became very important in this fight.>2KMMax range for backup sensors, i would say that most pirate fights start at a distance near this as ship probably can't get much more closer before shots start to fly.I think that 1KM would be perfect, as it is far but not too far to turn this in sniper's tourney, More than this gives much incentive for long-ranged guns instead of more precise ranged boosted-ones.
>write four pages of Fairchild stuff out in advance>lose it all somehow because the file SOMEHOW reverted to a save from months ago I have no idea howWhat the absolute fuck
>>917590Fairchild's ree is too powerful. Wong you have created a monster. The meme magic is real, Wong. It's crossing over.
>>917590..I know that feel all too well. Normally there should be a few saves for that sort of thing or a means to retrieve it, but at the very least you know what it is you typed, yes?>>916693Hmmm. I would say the engagement zone should depend slightly on the machine. Two melee units would be close for combat already, but a ranged unit would likely focus on a melee once it started to enter it's comfort zone.
>>917590Kinda of already happened to me, now i have multiply saves when doing something important.>I have a paste of BLE material that may become official in a near future, and each chapter of it have many different saves for itself.
>>917590hey, spy guy here, do I need to change my character? also, did we reach a verdict on ammo rules?
>>917810At first, Wong REEEEEEEE'd hard at that.Then he realized that those rules existed to balance things like carrying unholy amounts of ammo, and creating pents with absurds amounts of ammo in each one.So he promised to study it, and retired in isolation at his tower, to never see the world again until he conquered the hidden knowledge lost in midst of the madness maelstorm that is also know as... THE ATM!
>>917855Good fuking luck.
>>917616Reality creates the memes and the memes create reality.
Alright, Gentlemen, meet the new and improved CROWE.http://pastebin.com/xnGAaNvzNot only is it overall stronger and lighter than the old version, but I was able to save enough CP overall to get a DA 0 SP6 shield.now I just need to doublecheck everything, and write up the new fluff and I'll be set.
>>918264"In the begining was the verb and the verb worded the world into being, and what are words if not full memes on itsefl?"He who controls the memes, controls the universe.
So, is the next session today?
>>919865Strange, it is not an usual day like Wednesday or Friday... But okay.
Welp, bored right now so here's some Achievements.Back in Black(Ogre): Build and name the Knuckle Kaiser.Put your SOUL into it: Run into SOUL for the first time.Oh captain my captain: Become captain of the iron kestrelsBLACK OGRE?!: Capture the heart of Sunshine solo. Roarke-Senpai noticed me!: Beat Oda and have the Storm dragons join your fleet.Skull Bashing: Beat up and defeat a green skull ship and harpy unit.SULIEMAN I HAVE RETURNED: Clear out Suleiman I and rescue the civilians.ONCE THE BIG ZAM IS MASS PRO-oh..: Defeat the S-Tarrasque with no casualties.Skull and crosshairs: Defeat the BosunStupid Sexy Roarke: Seduce ClemmyPlaying games with your heart: Beat Red Siren in bluegill joe.I came here to laugh at you: Laugh at Jesus as Caesar.AVE CAESAR: Have Naomi as your girlfriend.Parley: Avoid fighting the Iron Kestrels due to sabotage.Moe Problems: Defeat Moe as CaesarNo Moe Problems: Defeat Caesar as MoeSKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE: Defeat the Green Skull ArmadaFirst comes, first served; Defeat the first mate.
>>921683Don't Stop Me Now: Survive a direct hit to the power-plant.Another One Bites the Dust: Defeat Fatima's real kidnapper.They see me rollin', they hating: Makes Faichild destroy her own desk.Is this the real life? Or just fantasy?: Solo a Paladin.>Implying: Watch Karen unleash her true GYchan powers.IT'S A TRAP!: Do unspekable things to Sam.Killer Queen: Have a duet with a special SOUL pilot."And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.": Challenge Dame Morrigan to a duel.Too kawaii to live, but too Sugoi to die: as the Duke, survive a solo combat against more than 2 Iron Kestrels ace in the same battle."Heavy Breathing Intensifies": Meet the masked stranger, whoever may he be.「CRIMSON LIGHTNING」: Survive a conversation with the Scarlet Witch without getting blowed up.Moeblob: As Moe, get your first waifu.ALEA IACTA EST!: As Ceasar, desert SOUL to save Naomi.Princes of the Universe: Conquer the secret waifu and eternalize your fame as the Row-Arc, the Pirate King of the Belt."Yam-What?": Receive ancient mystical knowledge about girls archetypes."REMOVE VEGETABLE": As the Duke, save the Princess from the hands of the dread Gas Knights.Copyrights are dead: Meet an Roark impersonator.Do you have the Thunder for that, son?: Unlock your first namefag."Mekton doesn't have charts enough!": Create a graphic to represent the relationship between multiple waifus."I have stared into the abyss, and it stared back... But it blinked first!": Survive the ATM and create your own tourney's mech without going mad.Do you hear Qu'liri sing, singing the song of angry cats? It is the music of a people who shall not be paid in pats!: Discover the kitty-kong conspiracy.PUSSY-SMASHER: Take the Cicero back from the Kitty-Kongs.Mileslong-Shadow: Give the remains of a legendary mech to an old-friend.S-Sodomy: Get whiped by a S-Pop Idol's mech.S-Sore: Wreck the mech of the S-Pop Idol."IT'S OVER NINE-THOUSAND!": Have Fairchild's "REEEE" becomes so strong that it affects material reality... And computer files.DO YOU REMEMBER LOVE?:As Wong, write lovey-dovey things about fictional characters based on your namefags and see it goes too far into becoming a meme.
Also, i was thinking of starting my own quest as i may have some more time for at least until february... But i'm kind of split between what it should be about.In one hand, i'm very tempted to do a sci-fi anime quest like this one to a certain extend, with maybe more resource management...In other hand, something with magic would be cool too, but i'm much certain of how to do a not generic fantasy setting, as most of them seem much alike each other.Offer suggestions if you want.
>>922735Hmmmm... In fact, if Wong is okay with it, i could QM a short game based on this universe, but in faraway system and about how things went for them...Getting ideas... Napoleonic faction, Divided Ancaps rebel colonies, some genemods, Avalonians... AND PIRATES!
And here it is, The Libra with the new and improved CROWE. Everything should check out, so this is the official pastebin.http://pastebin.com/4Kngz2BC
>>923447I am almost done wrestling with the beast that is the ATM. I just have to write up the design of the design and decore. I will be describing it as if it was an intro in a fighting game so expect flashy.
Odd, it still says the thread is on page 10.
>>931759There's an autosage in place after 3 days. Can only bump in those first 3 days.
>>931763So it would be better to make a new thread tomorrow, I see.
>>931770Pretty much, also what are the major holidays now since Christianity gone away for the most part?
>>931795Probably like the japanese version of X-mas, but more degenerate.Also, this thread has been quiet, what was you guys up to?(Just making conversation)
>>931817Preparing Fairchild stuff so I can get it all out of the way early tomorrow.
>>931817Hey, Brazil, Here's the new Libra pastebin in case you missed it.Speaking of.>>923447Do the stats on the new Crowe look alright? I don't know if I'm the first person to try a multi-feed weapon, and I want to make sure I got it right.
>>931852meant to also quote Wong.>>931840
>>931840I am looking forward to how this will go down.
>>931840It must be hard to redo everything... This is very stressful to me at least... And i always end up feeling like it is different from the original '-'Also>tfw Professor from colletivist school of psychology who use dirty tricks to mass control people and spread leftist "muh stereotypes and discrimination" thinking let you for final test.>...After you just discovered that in his way to power, father used same dirty tricks to participate in a con-scheme that tricked people in doing free work for corporations that profit on the misfunction of government, and got out when his moral conscience didn't let him go father after he had exploited yoo much people.My family reunions are always so dramatic, maybe i should write a book about this, too much shenanigans...>>931852I'll give it a look, hold on.
>>931852Well, it is a pretty good machine, but it's also very ammo heavy. That can be an issue especially with no melee on you.
>>931852>http://pastebin.com/4Kngz2BCFirst thing, keep in mind that i haven't sleep this night and a BBQ just happened at my place, so i'm very austistic right now, please point-up any crazyness.Okay...Somehow my accounting of CP gave me 41,5CP for the standard version of your weapon, for 10 Spaces, and 5.88 tons of weight...You may want to recheck your numbers just in case.About its efficacy...>6K and BV3Pretty good damage for a weapon, and with BV it can be even more powerfull if you can keep scoring extra shots... What could still be a challenge as you have the same MV of a Bluegill and not much bonus on WA, but in the case you can score same place hits on some part of an opponent you could do some damage even in Pumpkinseed II level enemies>Multifeed with GrenadesGood Choice for a weapon who has multiple ammo, it pays off the cost by allowing you to nuke people who get to close, and Blast seem a good ace in your sleeve for having and edge to call upon in special cases.>Range 350 or 150.Seriously? It seems a little risky... Okay, most mooks will need to go full speed on you to be able to cross that space in a turn, but it won't let you snipe them from afar to give support unless you go full sniper variant, and makes you keep having to getting closer to score a good shot against melee opponents... And against same level opponents this can be suicidal.In terms of Tourney fights... Walkure, Lightning, Huskarl would wreck you after the first turn, Myrm and Wraith would try to snipe you probably, as they have more range, and only the memes know what Doan you choose to attack you with.Your blast can neutralize the shadow images from the Valkyrie, but i doubt that it would help you for long if she gets closer.Victor maybe would use his Cannon-Lance on you has you guys have the same range, and then try to get closer for finishing you off with the lance, also he would be immune to your blast because of his beta armor.>Other variations.Sniper can work very well for a bunch of situations, and could (with luck) end some fights before the enemy get to you, but the long range makes BV extra hits very difficult.Heavy seems the better to fight heavy armored enemies if you aren't the main target or don't care about risking yourself at close range any way.... How does AP works agaisnt Beta Armor?The bayoneta gun may be a clever solution against heavy mooks as Pumpkinseeds or maybe even some officer mechs, but don't forget that you aren't a tanker and you can go down fast if they get lucky.This reminded me of something... Will or aces be the ones to fill the Ace slots on the new ships?It is looking like so, to the ones who have an interest in staying at least.>>931840Also, Wong, can Daryl be a spy? He is asking you about it but i don't remember you answering it.
>>931931True, but it's a drawback I'm willing to live with in order to both A. have a kickass gun, and B. keep the Libra as faithful to the original as possible.>>932018>Somehow my accounting of CP gave me 41,5CP for the standard version of your weapon, for 10 Spaces, and 5.88 tons of weight...not sure how you're getting that. Remember that the CROWE is a mated gun, and that the grenade and scattershot ammo have 5 bursts, so the take up half the spaces and weight of the tracer and AP ammo.http://pastebin.com/Z2iM9Rj4 This pastebin is more or less how I built it.>Range 350 or 150.Seriously? It seems a little risky... Okay, most mooks will need to go full speed on you to be able to cross that space in a turn, but it won't let you snipe them from afar to give support unless you go full sniper variant, and makes you keep having to getting closer to score a good shot against melee opponents... And against same level opponents this can be suicidal.Range is irrelevant for phalanx weapons, so the 150 isn't a concern. and to get more range for the FAIZ would cost too much.>In terms of Tourney fightsEh, I'm not to concerned about how it does during the tourney since it wasn't built for it. I built it thinking on how it would engage some of the grunt suits we've encountered so far.>SniperThat's a good point. I might try and futz around with that later to see what I can get.