This is a thread created for the discussion of Quest threads, as well as sharing of advice and guidance for aspiring or current QM's. Posters looking for advice on tabletop games should look elsewhere.Please do not shitpost, and please report any shit posters attempting to derail discussion or cause strife. This means avoiding tripfag drama or discussion about subjects such as getting rid of /qst/.Useful links: http://pastebin.com/u5xPbk6w (embed)This link contains numerous writing guides, general advice, and various quest tools and communities.https://twitter.com/Eisenstern/lists/quest-runner-directory/https://twitter.com/tgquestlist/lists/quest-master-directory (UPDATED LIST)These are two directories containing the tweets of many current QM's. While a twitter is by no means mandatory, it is a useful tool for both you and your players. To get added to the second list, tweet @tgQuestList. Spamming tweets unrelated to your quest may result in its removal.IRC Channels:[The Cabal] #QMC @ Rizon.net (slightly related to quests; enjoys worldbuilding, mechanics and politics)[Hugbox] #ques/tg/enerals @ Rizon.net (barely related to quests; enjoys Larro quests and anime)Discord server (Can provide feedback to new QM's, but shitposting is a bannable offense):https://discord.gg/QBfMms2 Archive of quest reviews (if you find a review that is not on the list, please link it in the thread):http://pastebin.com/u/QuestReviewsArchiveQM Question:What's the hardest part about writing for you?Player Question:Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?Bonus Question:What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?
>>606293>What's the hardest part about writing for you?Trying to chain together the different ideas I want to put in a scene.>Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?Yes, but only if there's something that can be done not listed in the prompts.>What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?Procrastinating. (Sorry guys, getting distracted is too easy)
>>606293>What's the hardest part about writing for you?Hardest part is definitely how much window dressing to include for this format. Like, how much detail to give the room, the location, the person, the beast, the this the that. Dialogue is easy as shit and so is writing the flow of things to keep the plot moving. Or even emotional responses and stuff. But straight up "how much time do I devote to describing this desk" fucks me up senpai. >Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?I think this is dependent on the QM and the style of quest. I definitely think write-ins should only be employed when appropriate. People that do write-ins for EVERY SINGLE CHOICE especially with the new problem of IDs quickly starts to develop this thing where I know someone has a reputation for write-ins and for every shitty write-in they offer up the less and less i give their next write-in even an attempt at getting my support for fear it will be stupid as fuck.>What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?Masturbat furiously.
>>606293Qm question: Finding the right musicBonus: Watch videos or look at weird shit
Hey, qtg, what are some hidden gems you know? Those quest you think didn't get the attention they deserved, even though they were actually pretty good.Hard mode: It can't be one of your own quests
>>606293>What's the hardest part about writing for you?I worry often that I'm not living up to my player's expectations, and that the updates I find myself disappointed with are just as disappointing to the people who waited to read it. >Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?Depends on the quest. Sometimes the options are more than enough, and I'm just along for the ride. Other times, I see something coming fairly early and submit write-ins to try and take advantage of it, or mitigate damage. Typically those write-ins are met with people laughing or brushing it off for about 3 updates, before I get vindication when it bites everyone in the ass. Unfortunately I'm also a player, which means it bit me in the ass because of them.
>>606293>Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?i'm not keen on offering outside-the-box writeins, but i like to take a couple of lines to explain the thoughts behind my vote, because i'm a douchebag narcissist.
>>606293>Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?Yes because sometimes there's a possibility that I would really take advantage of not being put to full use and I just HAVE to reach for it. Also the rails sometimes need to fuck themselves.
>>606325The Laughing Dog, Senate Quest, Dark Spirit, Biopunk, Beacon hunter, Tank Princess.Those would be the recent ones for /qst/. I could go back years and list all the Twen/IR quests but I want to pretend to be happy for the remainder of my evening.
>>606293>Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?It's less write-ins and more additional tweaks to the primary option I voted for, since pure write-ins hardly garner any support most of the time.If it does get support and a QM pulls it off, it's really satisfying especially if it contributes to fleshing out the story or the character interactions. If not, that's cool too since I got a primary vote put in anyway.Most of the time, explaining the reasons or the intent behind the action would suffice. And I'd be happy enough with what the QM cooks up taking said explanation into consideration.>What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?Mess around with tegaki even though it's really shit.
>>606325Valen QuestWhy the hell isn't it more known I don't comprehend.
>>606471What's a "Valen"?
>>606471Tell us about it anon.
>>606514Valen is a very important noble family in the setting, of which the MC is a heir.>>606521Let me copy-paste a brief summary from the last thread:>We are currently trying to save our daughter figure captured by a yandere supernatural phenomenon we have no chance against in open combat and have no idea how to parley with.>We are also saddled with a yandere killer golem, bunch of superstrong sociopaths led by a retard, forbidden knowledge that might get us in trouble with another supernatural phenomenon, a ruined city we have no money to restore, and several artifacts we don't know how to use without tactical nuke-level collateral damage and/or ripping our own soul to pieces.>And to round it up our country is a target of at least three different plots and is looking forward to a civil war and an invasion.To this I'll add that playing it, at least for me, is an excellent intellectual excersise. There are mysteries to solve, clues to notice, people to persuade and manipulate, plots to unravel and more.Also, the writing is great.Look up the archives here: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Valen+Quest
>>606532It's also ongoing.
>>606532I've said my piece before, but I'll say it again:it's too anime in the ways I don't prefer, and too LITTLE anime in the ways that grab other people.It's like Valen and Beleaguered are foils or something.
>>606554>too animeLiterally whatThe only anime thing there is the end-of-thread picture
>>606560you just used yandere to describe it.And the first thing I remember seeing when I checked it out is playing nanny to a damn monstergirl.
>>606532>Valen is a very important noble family in the setting, of which the MC is a heir.And there lies my explanation for why it's not more widely read. If I'm looking at picking up a new quest I look at four things:>Is it a QM I know?>Does the image catch my interest?>Does the title describe the quest in a way I understand?>Does the first paragraph give me enough information to orient myself?The fewer of those you have the less likely you are to attract a new player or generate any real interest outside the following you already have.
>>606564Demihumans are as far from a monstergirl as you can imagine. Give it a second chance.>>606568Sounds like it's true. Let's see if Riz changes something.
>>606568>Does the title describe the quest in a way I understand?This has always been a funny one with me.I like small titles that either say what the character is or a simple adjective for describing the character's immediate situation, as most of the time if it's an OC setting the title doesn't clear anything up until the second opening paragraph or at worst the full situation is only known 2-3 threads in. If it's a made up word that doesn't really help me get invested.For /tg/, Gargoyle Quest, Shadow Quest, and Ruby Quest I think are good examples of 'what you are' names, and things like Banished Quest, Bladebound Retainer, and Dungeon Life are alright 'situation' quest titles, while things like Homeless Mutant Quest, Crusader Quest, Urban Warlock, Hive Queen Quest, and Mecha Space Pirate Quest are titles that imply both what kind of game and what kind of character up front.The various fanfiction quests seem to have the right idea of simple, efficient, and communicative titles as well, at least as far as "I know whether I'm interested or not by reading that title" goes. If only because outliers tend to get ignored, and there's no reason not to use the established setting's language to draw attention in the first place.
Which quest is the sexiest?
>>606648BFQ.what I wanna know isWhat QM is the sexiest?
>>606293Two equally sized problems: 1 is making sure that writing doesn't suck in my entire life and I begin to miss homework for questing (i've done this many times, sadly). 2 is not going whole hog, 24/7 questing and getting burnt out on something (see: practically all my other quests on Akun)Bonus Question: Play video games or attempt to study.>>606652Me, obviously 8^y
QM Question:What's the hardest part about writing for you?> I've got a sandbox, so making sure that every character is as engaging as they could be.Player Question:Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?> Yeah, I think it helps keep quests organic and unpredicatable. I awarded a level up for a good write-in on my quest.Bonus Question:What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?> Read other quests, play football manager, eat or errands.
>>606325Excellent question fellow quest player, I have heard great things about “Not so Glorious Quest”, who I am totally not the QM and I’m not trying to shill myself for no good reason. (I’m sorry)>What's the hardest part about writing for you?If I was a QM (and I’m not) I would say everything. English makes no sense. But if I have to be serious for a moment, it’s really difficult for me to make likeable characters or coherent sentences.>Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?No, I do not. I don’t feel confident that my contributions are good. So I just vote. But I love write-ins in my quest. >What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?Relax in my chair.
>>606521You are Irue Valen, heir to the house of Valen, the most influential family in the country of La'fiel and its neighbours and has existed since before the country was even founded.Her family dead, she was taken in by her aunt and placed in what was more or less solitary confinement for 10 years. Irue mistakenly thought they were simply her guardians until she came of age they planned to use her status as their ward to force her into a political marriage and take her inheritance. The quest begins when Irue has forcibly invoked her right to a Rite of Passage in an attempt to avoid it.And the players immediately fuck it up. Without even trying to find out what the Rite is, we throw ourselves into it. Irue's aunt provided her with three slaves and was told to pick one as her Testament, and players being smug assholes we picked all three. This put 3 separate storylines in motion and Irue and her Testament's suffering only gets worse for each passing day. But things have been looking up these past 2 months though!The setting is very interesting but my favorite part of the quest aside from the stellar writing are the Forgettings- sometimes after an update there is an option that says "Am I forgetting something... ?". Pretty self explanatory, players have a chance to remember something from earlier in the quest by looking for clues in the latest update and nailing them is a great success and are complete game changers.I don't think I can do it justice by describing it, take 20 minutes and look at the first thread. If you don't care for it after that you can safely ignore it.>>606564>And the first thing I remember seeing when I checked it out is playing nanny to a damn monstergirl.Demihumans are natural born sociopaths. It's in their nature, the only way they function is by manipulating and using others. They're like 5% furry using that handy old chart. The demihuman you read about is Kara and she was dropped on the head or something, her major malfunction is that she's an honestly good girl. I think I know the part you are talking about and it only came about because got mad that she decided to sleep through the day instead of coming with us.
>>606855Ah, the forgettings.It's like half the joy of this quest for me.
>>606293>QM Question:All of it is hard work for me (Thanks Dyslexia!), but the most nerve-wracking part is fact-checking/editing/spell-checking each post.>Bonus Question:Double-checking my lore in case I flip-flopped on something I has established earlier, checking my E-Mails, reading up on news, fapping sometimes if one of my Anons starts posting lewd write-in and/or images , making something to eat etc. etc.
Sorry to be a bother, but I don't really understandhow dice rolling and voting works. I'm new to this board and want to start a quest so any help is appreciated.
>>606803Not So Glorious is my favorite new quest by far.>>606937You put down "dice+" in the E-mail field then type "XdY" after that, "X" being how many dice are being rolled and "Y" being how large the dice is.So for example, when you roll dice in a quest, it should read "dice+1d20" (Or whatever the QM wanted).Quests in general are set up like "Choose your own adventure books": You read a little bit, then decide where the story wants to go from a prompt of different options. The big thing, of course, is that there aren't any ways to really go back and redo an option if it blows up in the players faces or whatever...
>>606964Also write ins are usually accepted as alternative options for a vote, provided the Quest master approves.
>>606937Read some quests, play in at least one while it's live. Gotta watch how others do it, take notes on what you think they do well and what you'd do different from then.
>>606937You also might want to adhere to some general ground rules like: Dont do character gen (or at least not unless you trust your userbase).
>>606937>dice rollingyou roll some dice, if the result is above a certain value, you succeed at the task>votingyou vote for an option. Judging from the votes, the QM decides what the MC will do.
>>606937dice rolling is done by the board software, when you use the dice command (read the sticky!) in the options field and make a post, the board will insert the result of the dice roll in bolt text as the first line your post.you don't get to preview the outcome of a dice roll.vote prompts and vote counting aren't automated. you ask players to respond, and then count their responses manually.
>>606293>Player Question:>Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?I do, but I try to only do it when it feels like the options given don't quite match my understanding of the MC, and I'll sometimes include some thoughts with a pre-defined vote if I'm worried QM and I interpret the goal of that vote different.Bonus Question:What do you do while waiting for an update?I'm trying to build my own quest, which brings me to...>QM Question:>What's the hardest part about writing for you?So far anything related to the MC is really hard. World building and a creating a couple characters has mostly been pretty simple and I have a general idea of how I'd like the quest to go (is that a bad thing btw?), but I'm really struggling to include the MC in the story in a way that doesn't feel forced.
>>607031>is that a bad thing btwNo, not really. Not every quest needs to be a sandbox.
>>607031Generall if the MC is important, the story happens to them, if he isent, the MC happens to the story.Dont worry if some things dont come about as you envisioned, one of the main reasons it takes so long between threads for some QM's is that their figuring out wtf to do now.It might help to try look at it from the point of the world youve created, instead of from the point of a story.
>>607120I like that advice, I even added it to my short list of things I've noticed successful QMs doing. Could I ask you to elaborate though? There are plenty of examples of the story happening to the MC but I can't think of one off the top of my head where the MC happens to the story. Would that be like you apply for a security guard job that just so happens to be at the the drug lord's mansion?
>>607191MC happening to the story is when the world is spinning like it should and the MC is not a factor or even known to neither the Bad Guys or the Good Guys. It's when he takes initiative to fuck shit up because he bloody well can or because he wants to, not because someone tells him to.
>>607191Generally a story happening to a character would be like the current running avatar quest:Normal joe earth bender going about his life when suddenly, avatar and invading army.In Re: Monster the MC was born in the woods and chose to go dungeon delving and came out of said woods. In essence Shit is happening: a war, famine, celestial event, magicall accident.The MC is either a witness to it or dealing with the after effects. But he does not cause it. His choices in the begining have no effect. Now he has to deal with it and inflict his will upon his destiny.Said quest can have multiple "Setting happens to MC" events, depending. The MC can get involved, or just deal with it on the sidelines while doing their own shit.E.g. Zombie apocalypse survival would be a good example of Story happens to MC.
>>606585So I should be good with Escape from Earth Quest , Retiring Detective Quest and Revenging Survivor Quest as quest titles?
>>607224Sorry got those mixed the wrong way round.What it means from a QM's perspective is how much work your willing to put in, and how intrinsically important the MC is to the plot.Island survive would be MC happening to story, since, being the only one (?) on an island makes them important for the story to continue.
>>607228>Revenging SurvivorSounds like a terrible 70s wuxia or martial arts movie
>>607270Good point, might steal it for a one-shot to set upon my normal group.
>>607270My first idea was aping the chapter naming formula off Akame ga Kill.
>>607207>>607224>>607232So, just to make sure I have this right, if there is a conflict in the setting that would progress without the players, I should worry less about how and why they involve themselves, and more about how it impacts whatever direction they choose to go?
>>607302how and why and if, rather
>>607302>>607303Pretty much.Everything varies mind, but thats the nature of running quests. Players will fuck with your plans regardless, which is kind of the point for their enjoyment.
>>607302Yeah. How, Why and If is up to the players. Don't plan these things, you'll just go crazy. No plans survive contact with players.And that is why you plan for /everyone else/. Make sure your bad guys have a plan that they stick to. They have a Goal and a road map of how to achieve this Goal. The players get involved and throw monkey wrenches in every goddamn gear there is and you work out how the world reacts to their actions.
>>607311>>607314Cool, thanks again anons, this was super helpful.
>>606325>Hidden GemsCheck out BioArmor Quest! The only quest with actually monstrous monster girls!I am in no way its QM!
is it a shitty move to make a quest in the same vein to another quest currently running? It's not an original concept and their been previous iterations with the same formula.
>>607534The answer really depends on the context. Are you talking about a quest you want to create or are you talking about quests currently going on?
>>607534When in doubt, talk to the QM in the quest your running like.And please dont be another naruto quest.
>>607534Try to be original where you can.
How do you guys think a prologue quest would be received before i actually start the main quest?I want to do the big bads backstory in a manner that makes you sympathize
>>607601Don't tell anyone it's a prologue, stupid. Just do the thing and make it interesting on its own merit. What you plan to do with it in the future is exactly nobody's business and has no effect on its goodness.
>>607534starting the seventh shipfucker quest, or the eleventy billionth magical girl quest isn't really gonna bother anyone, you're one shaken drip in the ocean of piss.
When would you say would be the most optimal times to run quests?1. Morning, Noon, Evening2. Weekdays, or Weekends
>>607676Depends on your audiance timezone and how fast you want the quest to run.
>>607676Evening on weekends tends to have decent traffic.
>>607676The answer to this question has been in literally every single qtg OP for years by now. You should check it out. We made that exactly for people like you. It's at the top of the thread.
Magical Girl Bomber is alive and well.>>607815
So I have an idea for a quest about bootlegging:The MC starts out as a WWI veteran who ended up in New Orleans instead of New York because of a paperwork fuck-up. That was in 1918. It is now 1920 and he's homeless, and Prohibition has just been enacted. With the newfound market for illicit booze, combined with the emerging jazz culture and hard financial times in the Deep South, the MC has the opportunity of a lifetime.So how bad is the idea?
>>607830I'd read it.
>>607830...are there cats involved?
>>607840No... But there will be pigs.
>>607840I haven't checked the webcomic in awhile. Is it still good?
>>607843You'll have another reader in me, anon.>>607848Eh, it stalled for a bit. Not sure I like how the characters are developing, but it's mostly interesting.
>>607659>>607578>>607544>>607537Its planetary governor quest, I guess I could wait a little longer and keep working on my system and story before running.
>>607879So you want to run a sci-fi quest about ruling a planet? There's a lot of way to structure it to make it distinct from the other quest.Tell us about it. Is it going to be like Dune with a lot of political intrigue and double crosses? Is it going to be very pulpy with blue skinned girls and ray guns?How is the game world?
After the week from hell the third part in my A Song of Ice and Fire Quest continues. Hope to get out of King's Landing by the next thread or so and onto house management. >>604018
I want to run a Re:Zero quest.
>>607927Do it then. Not like anybody's gonna stop you.
>>607927>Re:ZeroIf you're talking about Re: as in the quests in the Re:Monster family, what do you mean by 'zero'? Would we be playing as a sapient Japanese airplane?
>>607947Re:Zero is an anime about a darker take on the isekai genre with a Groundhog Day twist
>>607947it's a recent anime, Re:Zero, Starting Life in Another World
>>607893It's a world recently reintegrated to the Imperium after the whole sector was cut off and most imperial institutions have long collapse into vage memory. Religious tensions are building up as different cults of the emperor are clashing and competing for official recognition, the nobility (already old and well established before contact was lost) is resentful at being impose an outsider and the imperium is struggling to re-establish his control over the sector with many world in open rebellion or in control of xenos and chaos. The world itself is a borderline death world with very dangerous beasts and plentiful unexploited resources. That's the basic run down without any spoilers, I am also working an a extensive list of planetary upgrades, I might post it after I get home.
>>607964do it, i'm interested
>>607964Dangerous beast training and breeding better be one of em>>606325You should totally come check out Symbiote Quest (™) by Maleficarhttp://anonkun.com/stories/symbiote-quest/T6xYtac9nx29Tsec6
>>607972I considered it, now I will be sure to implement it.
What's the best way to have a battle system in a quest?
>>608003Something light and easy to understand. Get bogged down in mechanics and it won't be fun.
>>608003Streamline whatever system you have in mind as much as possible on your (the QM's) end. The last thing you want to have to do in the middle of a fight scene is keep track of a lot of little but important things such as resources. It's very easy to underestimate how much that can slow down your writing until you're already too deep to change it.
>>608003keep the player-facing game mechanics somewhere between coin flip and tic-tac-toeif you want to gather an audience of military sim autists and collective-play a massive scrimmage, consider a twitch stream rather than an imageboard
Does a QM shitposting in /qtg/ and developing a known personality increase the number of viewers their quest gets?
>>608074At the very least it makes you acutely aware of the vast number of lurkers you possess.I highly recommend be a caustic tripfagging cunt. I see why planefag does it.
>>607228>Revenging Survivor Quest I need a better descriptive title than this, that doesn't sound EngRISH.
>>607927>Isekai genre questHow about doing Masoukishin? It's less cheat-y in ways that the Re: series don't.
>>608163I doubt he wants to run Re:Zero just because it's isekai.
If anyone wants to look away from MGNQ for a bit, Dog Days Quest is up!>>608156
Gonna pimp out the quest once again.I run a Gundam quest set during the One Year War in a setting much like 8th MS Team. As a matter of face, you are the leader of the 16th MS team. We are in the 'Nam and doing grunt MS things. Eating army noodles and pulling rank in the rain.I will be putting it up for the second thread tomorrow afternoon. Hope to see some of you there.
Finishing off the second session of Alchemical Blade Quest today!>>599108
Hey, so is it just me or are QMs putting people named Dan or Daniel in their quests? I keep seeing that name.
>>608270Pffhaha, it's an inside joke
I created a quest earlier and I don't know how to delete it. Please help. I feel terrible for starting something and not having the ability to Finnish it.
>>608276Have you tried to Danish it instead?
>>608276What is it? Someone might be able to take it over f you. Or tell you how you can save it.>>608274It is? And here I thought my finger was on the pulse of /qst/ culture...
>>608276>not having the ability to Finnish it.
>>608280>>607363This thing here. Sorry for leaving a mess.
>>608270>>608274>>608280Can confirm, it's a Discord thing.Originally the plan was for /qst/-tan to show up but only Melancholic Quest did that. It seems making cameos of known discord peeps seems much easier than the fucking board-tan.
Looking for a good quest to read, having just finished catching up on hive quest and re:monster. Know of any ones, past or present? Or any other site that has some decent ones on it?
>>606293>What's the hardest part about writing for you?The writing, dyslexia and fine motor skills mean my hand writing is so bad the exam board let me have a scribe for English and just assigned zero points for spelling and handwriting. My typing is slow too.Do you contribute write-ins? Why/why not?Often, even if it's just rewording what the QM wrote because I think it flows better.What do you do while waiting for an update or for your players to vote?I have other tabs.
>>607445What is this? A .jpeg for ants!?
>>606293>What's the hardest part about writing for youSeeing how I was infamous among my audience for misspellings or writing the wrong form of a word, I'd probably say that. Many a dramatic moment lost to silly spelling mistakes.So on the off chance any of my old readers are still kicking around who haven't seen via Twitter, Sith Apprentice Quest will probably making its dramatic return soon.
>>608398Go away skeleton
>>608407U wot mate
>>608416Brine died years agoProve your him
>>608381What do you like? Have you read Death among the Stars? Do you want finished or on-going, long or short, ect?
>>607971>>607972>>607893Here's what I have been working on, its not finish yet. It needs some corrections, price re-balancing. Some Mechanicus and Adeptus Ministorum stuff will only be obtainable through diplomacy or will get done without the players' input. Any input or ideas are appreciated like the great beasts training and breeding. It should go without saying that I am using TheGameroom's work and quest as a base to build on. http://pastebin.com/DpStBNgY
>>608425Cross reference that trip comrade, I return from the grave more powerful then ever before
>>608443I have read death amoung the stars and eagerly await its return. If you know of an finished one that is good, and that I haven't read, that would be awesome. As for current quests, I would like one that is original, or deviates heavily from the sorce material. Something where I don't have to know the source material to know what is going on. I will be honest, I have spent the last 6 months off and on going through the archives and reading what is finished and looks interesting. I want to know if what I skipped is interesting or not.
>>608450Is it as good as exulted? I have just caught up with it, so I am willing to check it out.
>>608512Well somebody asked me if I'm the new crustyDon't know if that means I'm a knock off crusty or near to his levelIma go with the first oneIts alright/10 in my opinion family
>>608493Ryukuza Quest is excellent, but if you don't like yuri you probably won't have a good time.
>>608493Wait.... Mr.Smiles, is that you?
>>608526Ryukuza is great for drama.XS writes the best drama on the board. Even if you just skip past the lesbian sex, it's great just from a shoujo-manga perspective on interpersonal relationships.
>>608537Sorry, but no. That is not an alias of mine. I am mearly a lurker who spends more time on suptg then on 4chan.
Why did my id change?
>>608526There are still porn quests?
>>608526I will check this out, thanks! Also, my wifi keeps dropping on my phone, so I think that is why my id changed.
>>608578Ah, sorry. Thought you were someone else who just catching up on HQQ.Well, I guess you could always try the other quests by the same QMs. Ghouls Civ is good but still on hiatus, and I hate to shill my own stuff but Cyberpunk Detective is both finished and quite short. Probably an afternoon's worth of reading.
>>608596Ryukusa is very, very careful to not put porn anywhere except pastebinsSo until mods decide that kissing and nipple-teasing is verboten, then it's fine.
>>608381Go read Pallys back catalog, also Headmaster, GermanSchteel and audit quest (audit quest is only 4 threads and only included because I like it but the others will kill your free time).
>>608493>If you know of an finished one that is goodTry Robot Decommissioner Quest.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Robot%20Decommissioner%20QuestMiniseries are good.
>>608676Hey, i have seen your name in a bunch of quest. Seemed like you were in a lot of the older ones.
That feel when you have two quests on hiatus and want to run both but both need overhauling with resources and tech trees>suffering
>>608493Go read Banished quest, it's pretty damn long and has tonnes of detail and lore and is totally OC
Are there different schools of thought on dice? How would you categorize the?How do you use them in your quest?What's the worst use of dice you've seen?Bonus question: What was the most bullshit you've ever seen from RNG?
>>608770>>608672How the hell did I skip over these?!?!
>>608276>>608286Never mind, false alarm.
>>608758I feel ya.
>>608746I'm an old lurker, sometimes poster, sometimes QM, although most of my quests got terminated by real life dropping in.Started and moderated a long-running evo game turned civ game, though the real credits go to the players of Primordial.
How bad would it be if instead of a quest finale thread to resolve a cliffhanger, a QM ran a joke one-shot instead?
>>608909beautiful for anyone not involved. Irredeemably frustrating for players. Do it.
>>607534No way. If you're worried about doing another fanfic quest, just go for it.There are so many tones and flavors and ways to run something, that it's easy to be unique. Plus one tends to promote the other so you both benefit.
I'm thinking about running either a Warhammer Fantasy Chaos Warband Quest or a Marvel Superhero Quest. Which do you think would be more interesting?
>it's another magical girl/fan fiction quest Fuck, where's the originality? I didn't expect all these stupid Naruto and SAO ones to clutter the board.
>>609133See that's the biggest problem with the split. People ran the popular naruto/dbz/anime fanfic garbage on /tg/ for the ratings because that's what people who pander to large autistic fanbases always do - they find the best place to get maximum attention. /qst/, as a small board, was destined to get the authors willing to write stories that weren't going to get them large fanbases filled with autists and losers. People who write alternative, harder to parse, greater than "entry level" type quests. Because if you're willing to sacrifice big crowds of drooling retards you care less for exposure.Now with the merger, we're stuck with all these quests absolutely wrenched of any artistic talent.>I want fanfic quests gone.>I want /a/ garbage gone/qst/ is much like the white race - perfect, destined to wither away to nothingness due to savages and now horribly infested with the "niggers" of the questing world.
>>609143Huh, you actually went back to your old self. Almost had me thinking the change was an actual thing.
>>609144You don't understand. I've evolved again - much like a three-generational stage pokemon.
>>609146So what would your final form be like?
>>609143I actually didn't mind the Naruto/DBZ/anime fanfic quests. If the people who make them enjoy it and the people who read it enjoy, why is it a problem that they exist in the first place? Yea I wonder how they're so popular (I mean before the Exodus we had like 3 DBZ and Naruto quests each?) but at the same time who are we to complain if such a thing is someone's guilty pleasure?
>>609147So at first I would be like, a ticonderoga pencil.Then i would be a pencil with a dulled tip.Then the third form would be a sharpened pencil, like razor deadly sharp.And then my mega evolution would be a pen.
Mfw Trick's entire presence on /qst/ has been one big shitpost.
>>609152That's about the size of it, yeah
>>609151>And then my mega evolution would be a pen.You'll break and blow your ink everywhere?
>>609144>you actually went back to your old self I'm . . . sorry. I had a relapse. Alright. I'm trying to improve but the temptation . . . ugh, I'll get back on the wagon tomorrow. I promise you I hate myself for being too weak to resist much more than you're disappointed than me.
>>609198Uh huh, yeah, sure
what do you think of deeper ideas in quests? most quests seem to stay in sort of the comedic zone for the most part, but what if a quest where to delve deeper into something like philosophy or psychology? would it lose your attention or gain it?
>>609223You'd risk going into faux-philosophical navel gazing that'd make even /lit/ wonder what the hell you're talking about
>>607947Im trying to decide if that would be fantastic or if it would burn out and crash without accomplishing anything
>>609223Why do you think they don't? Thing about such ideas is you keep them under the surface because nobody came here to read about your views on existentialism, they came to read the story you promised them.
>>609223Plenty of people try it, few pull it off with anything resembling competence, mostly because anon doesn't give a fuck
>>609223Just avoid Dadaism. Never works
What happened to nanoha quest anon?
>>609223I'd probably avoid the quest. However I've seen QMs take really deep ideas and have one side character constantly tackling them, for both reasons of humor and insanity. I think that works well.
>>609198so what's next? Trick depowered? Trick relinquished?
>>609368Let's go with this.
>>609371>PUNISHED TRICKSo you're some guy brainwashed into thinking you're Trick?I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
>>606293Which QM do you want a daki of?Which QM do you want to be your imouto?
Hoping this is the right place for it, does anyone happen to know if Some_pervert is still around?
>>609469Everyone wants a Hexmouto. A daki of me would be a long thin silk bag filled with broken bones and ashes.
>>606855>herDid Irue get sex-change or something?
Did /qst/ produce any good quests yet?
>>609518I like lamplighter quest.
>>609518Lamplighter is bretty gud.
>>609518Lamplighter quest and northern beasts quest are the only ones I've read that I consider good. Surely there are others though.
>>609518Lamplighter is shit
>>609540t. sword art online fanfic quest player
>>609223I've been trying to slip these in more and more and haven't had any complaints yet. It's also why my players want to fuck the BBEG. Speaking of which, how do I stop them /qst/?
>>609557....why do you want to?
A question for you, /qst/: Power armor or nanosuits?>>609557Can't stop the dick, anon.
>>609223There was a Scooby Doo quest which apparently had some really deep shit going on in it I'm totally seriousAs for me I found it best to include any deep, philosophycal stuff in a subtle manner.Those intelligent enough will get and apreciate it and those who don't give a rats ass about them won't notice that it's there.Also, it's fun to mess around with it but you have to be careful you don't trip over your own inflated ego and show the world what a huge fag you actually are
>>609557Why contain it?
>>609557>how do I stop them /qst/?>pic relatedIt's already too late. Take a page from Exabutt's book and use their love against them to the point of their self-annihilation.
>>609582This, let them do it and royally fuck them for stupid choices
>>609557You don't.You screwed up.No matter what you do it won't change their mind.And if you resist they'll instead vote to rape her.There's only 1 thing that can save you from this fate, give them something better they can put their pee pees in
>>609582>Take a page from Exabutt's book and use their love against them to the point of their self-annihilation.explain
Ryukuza Quest Begins: >>609605
>>608381>Re:monsterLamia daughter quest and scorpion girl quest are my nearest match suggestions
>>606325Start Over Quest is comfy as fuck and very nice, the QM is good and chill, and the characters are likeable.
>>609600Situation: MC is in the in-loves with the villain.Response: Villain uses this to their advantage.Result: MC makes bad to badder choices for the sake of love at behest of their special friend.Conclusion: Read Psion Quest.Custom Conclusion Taken from assorted other quests: The MC is made into a lapdog doing almost-evil shit that always results in bad things for other lots of innocent people, and then at the ultimate moment of reveal the waifu drops them because now they're useless to their grand plans. Throw in some sideplot where the MC tries to "redeem" them and "succeeds," then getting invited to have a good romp. Except, they go to the bedroom and are spell thrown into an extra dimensional hellscape until their soul withers into nothing, cue 10/10 villain waifu laughing in the background.
Probably going to be shot down for this, but I decided to take the chance.For the past couple of years (on /tg/ prior to /qst/) I've been following and playing a vast array of quests, I love this format for a form of RP/Storytelling is essentially what it boils down to, and throughout that time of playing I've tried writing, and have written, probably a dozen different worlds and plots for quests. To preface this, no, I don't have any mental health issues. The only issue is: I get some weird crippling anxiety when I actually get close to posting the quest, and the few times I went through with it I panicked and dumped the quest before any had a chance to get a following. Had anyone gone through this themselves? Any advice on how to get over being a complete pussy on a damn quest board? I really want to see my ideas come to life, and I know I have the competency to do it somewhat well, it's just this weird block I can't seem to move past.
>>609643I dunno man, ive been a pussy about all my quest ideas and gave them to qtg instead.I still have the drawfagging of a harpy pizza deliverygirl for the pizza racers i never ran.
>>609643It's pretty normal. I'm in the same situation you are in, in fact I made 25 different quest concepts before running one.At the start of this week, I actually started writing one. You just have to dive in, and hopefully you'll be so happy that you're actually moving your planned storyline along that you'll be able to stick with it. I'm three sessions in and it's going well, I'm gaining players.The biggest thing holding you back is the fear of failure. You're emotionally invested in your quest pitches and you want them to be successful. But they can't possibly be if you don't run them.Once you're running, the only thing you risk is QM burnout. Past that you should be fine, so long as you keep spicing the material up to avoid player attrition.So my advice for you is. Write an opening post. Force yourself to post that opening post, then write a second post. When players show up, you'll know what to do.
>>609643Force it.I promised I would run the quest and had no choice but to do it. And trust, after you've done it once, you'll never be nervous again.
>>608455Do it mate. I love quests like that.
>>609643Absolutely. Starting a quest can be terrifying. Do what the other Anons said and just jump in though. If it works, great for you. If not, hey, you tried and you can come back stronger next time.
>>609518Starship Idols but I'm biased towards people who know one of my favorite series
>>609643I had a very long response to this but the above anons have the good points.But,>Probably going to be shot down for thisTry to avoid prefacing your desires with your doubts. A lot easier said than done, of course, but it's worth trying.
>>609143>People who write alternative, harder to parse, greater than "entry level" type quests. But if you're willing to sacrifice to big crowds of drooling retards you care less for exposure.You sound like a quest you like isn't getting a lot of attention. What's it's name Trick?You got a point though. My BioArmor Quest takes influences from 90's anime (and even more from 1920's science fiction, but don't tell anybody!) but its 100 percent original and it gets like a third of the players a Sword Arts Quest gets.>>609152Westeros broke him. He is a broken man. Think of him as the old bitter guy in the corner of the bar whose rants are projections of his broken dreams.>>609207Toshiro Mifune?>>609223I'm trying to do some serious stuff with BioArmor about war and honor. And in Sibella Quest about trust and family >>609236It worked in Doom Patrol. It was amazing.>>609573That's mine. It's still going on.
>>609730>trick is one big shit post What do you think happens when your most succesful quest was stolen from another, shittier person's best quest?
Magical Girl For Hire Quest will be resuming in about an hour!
>>609735This brings me too much joy
>>609760Anon we all have his tripcode, let it die
>>609766He actually gave his tripcode away? Why?
>>609821Good question, if his goal was to make everyone stop talking about him, it worked, made a shit-post about "killing the trip" and then Trick imploded shortly after
>>609832...When I finally get around to doing that Cape World Quest where everyone in the thread plays a super powered rat belonging to a hive mind the bad guy is going to be a swarm of robotic insects.Would it be in bad form if I named the swarm VE-L 0? Virulently Emergent Lifeform Zero?
>>609874Better to have done it first and then tell us.
>>609874>>609885Yeah, what the second anon said, now it isn't funny, it's just a meme you wanted approval for
>my quest is being considered the lowest common denominatorThat kinda stings, I get it, but still, ouch.
>>610021What's your quest anon? Haven't been keeping up with qtg gossip the last couple of weeks
>>610023He runs SAO Quest, Based off the abridge and its gone wayyy the fuck off track. All and all if you don't plan on being serious its a good time. Hopefully soon we get back to fisting.
>>610059>SAOPandering confirmed, sorry anon
>>610104I'm having a blast in it, Its a total cluster-fuck and I can only hope it keeps happening.
>>609885>>609895Your right, I fucked up. >>610059>>610104>>610021Sword Arts Online? Is that the anime where everyone is trapped in an MMORPG and the main character is a teenage twink hacker?...So what's your quest like? What's the plot? Can I review it? I haven't doe one in a while.
>>608032Are you Crusty Jones under a new name?
>>610160No, he's a teenage twink who was "destined to be the best player ever" and for some reason got special abilities in the video game along with becoming an utter emo
>>610160The original is pure garbage, which is why I run the quest in the abridged version. Feel free to scour suptg for it and review it.
>>610021To be fair it's an isekai trapped in an MMO harem anime fanfic quest filled with memes. The mc even has meta knowledge. That said, it seems like your players have fun and you seem like a nice guy so don't let us rain on your parade.
>>610194>For some reason got special abilities in the video gameWhy don't other people hack the game and get special abilities?
>>610245>Which is why I run the quest in the abridged versionWhat does that mean?
>>610258People dubbed over the original audio to make it comedic.
>>610258I think he means the abridged series version of SAOhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6kJKxvbgZ0
>>610160I got a quest you can review if you want.The QM said it was okay on Twitter.
>>610361What is it?
>>610258The vastly superior comedic take on the show: SAO Abridged.
>>610160>Can I review it?This is a meme at this point huh?You haven't done one in months, don't pretend you are going to do this one.
>>610436Is this your quest? There's quite a few SAO quests.Why is it so damn popular anyways?>>610469The chances of anything coming from QG are a million to one they say.The chances of anything coming from QG are a million to one-But stillIt comes
>>610495And of course I forget the link.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/555691/
>>610495Yes, that's mine.Speaking of which, next update SOON™
>>609643Short, small things first. It has been proven that trying to adhere to an ideal plot is hard for QMs.
>>610411Shinobi Quest, by Wargle
>>608455Someone actually read the links I posted!
Huh, Hiro tweeted sorry through the 4chan update twitter. Can't imagine what for.
>>610188Trust me, he is definitely not Crusty Jones.Man, this board is depressing as fuck.
>>610653I think we know what for.
>>610665He's pretty good, though.
>>608155Try Avenging Survivor, anon.
>>610740>>610665Just read that he's from Brooklyn. So unless Crusty made a big moving decision at some point, yeah it's not him.
>>609623That's good, senpai.
How do you guys think a person with heightened but still slow regeneration that could basically pull them back from death would deal with WW1 trench-warfare? I imagine several suicidal charges where all your comrades get gunned down by entrenched machinegunners or getting killed by chlorine gas several times over would be extremely not fun.
>>610160>Sword Arts Online? Is that the anime where everyone is trapped in an MMORPG and the main character is a teenage twink hacker?Not a twink, twinks have actual muscles.
>>610682I don't. What's he apologizing for? Giving people false hope for better moderation?
>>610817Except he is.
>>610825He doesn't become a trap until season 2 though
>>610842He's alright.He needs to run more halo tho.
>>610021this >>610249but I don't want to judge your system as well since I don't know if you've changed anything in the last how many threads/posts
SAO QUEST REVIEWTHREAD 1WRITTEN AS IT IS READDISCLAIMER:I know very little about Sword Arts Online or the Abridged Sword Arts Online. All I know is that its supposed to be a really terrible anime about kids that get stuck in an MMORPG for poorly defined reasons and the main character has super powers because he was a beta tester called a "beater".I watched like three episodes and had to stop is what I'm saying.Fortunately the QM seems to feel the way I do. He calls it a "shitty anime" in the OP, which of course begs the question:WHY?:If you don't like SOA why run a quest based on it? Its premise is hardly original. You had stories about people trapped in computers sense the sixties. Why doesn't OP just make his own original trapped in a computer story?I'm sort of leery about this quest already to be honest.QM PLAYER FRICTION:Maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but warning lights went off when anons voted our name to be "xxXsauskatheuchihaXxx". It's clear the ones that voted on the name don't want to take the plot seriously, but the QM seems to want at least a semi-serious plot. He writes that we enter it as our name ironically.I predict bad things down the road. We shall see if I'm right to worry this soon.POOR START:We walk around a poorly described world as a poorly described avatar killing animals for quests.I am having bad flashbacks to The Island Quest.I find it rather disturbing that with cutting edge VR technology the best the humanity of the future can come up with is a wolf punching simulator. Is this secretly Idiocracy Quest? ABRIDGED:The QM informs us that we aren't just trapped in SAO, we're trapped in the Abridged SAO. And we aren't a character in the world. We're a person from the "real" world trapped in the Abridged SAO. Which means when we see the main character he's arguing about a magic pebble or something and there are funny pop up ads and really it amounts to nothing. This is more Wolf Puncher Quest so far than anything.Also for a normal guy that's just been trapped in a youtube parody series of an anime we sure are taking things in stride...And now I'm having bad flashbacks to Velo Quest and that Trapped in an MMORPG Quest I reviewed...I just want to remind you /qst/ that you said this was good. I just want to remind you of that.WE LEVEL UPWe brutally murder wolves with our bare hands and level up, caked in their innards.>You grin, and go into the menu to use those Attribute points on your... two fucking stats, because SAO is a shit MMO.Current STR: 1Current AGI: 1Seriously? Two stats? That really is shitty...but then again if its so shitty why don't you change it?If this is supposed to be a satire of SAO I'm not getting the humor. Like at all.We get a wolf mask that lets us steal life with our punches and that seems oddly powerful for a drop form a pack of wolves...And now I'm getting flashbacks to Joker Quest power wank...-cont
>>610880oh no he's actually doing it
>>610880God damn it mate.
>>610880what's on the plate now gene?
>>610880Hey, what about the other quests in your list?Still waiting for my private review.
>>609515Irue is vaguely and ambiguously gendered, but wears female clothes and was going to be married off to 'disinherit' her in a way reminiscent of women, so...I usually just assume Irue is a she, even if Irue's humanity is vague. Riz's other quest, Foxfire, also had an androgynous MC. Take that how you will.
>>610956And to think I was actually considering reading this quest
>>610995More interested in Gene's HARD NO RECOMMENDATION to be perfectly honest.
>>610817Where do I need to improve?
>>610989I read it and didn't realize that Irue wasn't definitely 100% female until a character got confused about it around thread 40. It's not a big deal.
>>610880We punch more boar asses. In fact we spend three in game hours doing so while the QM desperately tries to get the players to talk to Kirito and begin the plot. But the anons aren't having it. We need more power. They're already talking about going Kenshiro on everybody and soloing group bosses...And now I'm having flashbacks to Velo Quest plan wank.These quests hurt me /qst/. I just want you to know that.PLOT HAPPENSThe mysterious wizrobe reject running the game shows up and explains everything.Offscreen. Our only interaction in the event is when we yell to the bad guy as he vanishes that he's a faggot and should give us our money back.He spams a youtube video of Team Rocket laughing in response. And I'm sure its all funny to someone. Then we say "I'M GOING TO SHOVE MY FIST UP YOUR ASS INTO YOUR STOMACH AND BREAK YOUR GOD DAMN SPINE! I WILL FIND YOUR IN GAME AVATAR AND RAPE IT WITH MY FISTS I SWEAR ON MY GOD DAMN SOUL"Again. I'm sure this is funny to someone.Unless you've seen SOA you know jack shit what's going on. And any role playing or emotional content to be gained by being involved in this critical plot changing scene is gone as everything meaty happens off screen.The big evil guy shows up and explains the plot to all the innocent players and this has less description than us punching animals to death. Even if you're playing it for comedy you can't use what you don't describe.What I'm trying to say is the scene was actually handled better in SAO. And that's saying a whole lot.WAIFU ALERT WAIFU ALERT WAIFU ALERT:Things are very stable. You'd think they'd be some sort of panic we'd have to RP through sense everyone just found out their lives are effectively over and they're stuck inside a shitty MMORPG where losing means death. Sure, its a grim subject but you could mine some gallows humor out of it. You could do something with everyone's avatars being forced to be what they look like in real life. You could have Otakus be humorously fine with everything as they had no life to begin with.You could do SOMETHING.Instead our options are: Kill people. Kill animals. Go on Quests.We pick go on quests.I pick shake my head.We run into a blonde catgirl named IncogNegro How was that graphic novel anyway. I've been meaning to check it out for awhile .Half of the anons freak out and want to skin her for crafting material. They scream NO WAIFU. ONLY MURDER. Others scream to find and touch fluffy tail. I want to take a moment to thank my player base for not being the kinds of people that lose their shit when an attractive female NPC shows up. Sincerely, honestly, thank you.IncogNegro is incredibly calm even though she just found out she's trapped in a virtual deathtrap, but I'm sure her character is charming enough so that we can jump over the plot holes and get right to adventuring with her.-cont
What did he mean by these?>>610188I'm nowhere near the crustiest joneMore like the excessively cheap Chinese knock off
>>611014Start by not running on anonkun.I don't have a problem with your quest other than not personally enjoying it. But from what I've seen of it, you're not as good as Crusty. Which is fine, Crusty was literally the best writefag I've seen.
>>611025>>611028Honestly, the only reason I went to AKun and didn't start on /tg/ when it was still viable was because I fucking hate paste bins with a passion
>>611021>Half of the anons freak out and want to skin her for crafting material.Actually on second thought that's pretty metal.
>>611040Where the FUCK was that? That fucking gook bastard.
>>610741>Avenging SurvivorDamn, I don't know if it works with the tone I want to work with.
>>611040Christ fucking apple shit face! Hand it to a mod? Which goddamn mod!? Is there even a trustworthy mod currently available?
>>611040And in what timezone would it be if it was made on September 21st 2016 and a Thursday?
>>611040This is an edit though, right?
>>611040>posts 6567 and 6569 replying to post 6573Yes. That is, in fact, fake as balls.Gullible fucking retards, the lot of you.
>>611021But then she says this when we ask her about her cat ears:""Oh my gosh I forgot to take the headband off! I was at a party last night and when I woke up I must have left them on and then the NerveGear thought they were real! Holy shit I'm the only person in the game who has animal ears!...unless that head of yours isn't a mask like I thought?"There is no charm here.Also, is this a character from the show? Is that really the reason why she has cat ears? Because its dumb. Like really, really dumb.She has no idea why she's called IncogNegro or why her name is filtered. Do MMORPGs seriously filer Negro? Like for real? She also doesn't know anything about the game. Like anything at all. Which instantly gives us the chance to be the protective boyfriend.And we're still arguing about her. Some want her to be bait for boss enemies. Some want to fuck her. Some are now yelling at other anons and calling them horny bastards that think only with their dick.This waifu is a shit. But there's no reason to be a shit about it. Instead focus on making the PC charming to compensate for their boring partner. Have I mentioned already that I am really, really, really thankful my playerbase never acts like this? Because I really am.QM seems to be having fun though. He writes "seriously, I'm just going to sit on my ass and laugh at you guys for a bit".I have to wonder how long the laughter will last....AND THEN THERE'S DRAMAWell...I'm still not sure exactly what the tone of all this quest is. You'd think after everything that's happened it would be a satire right? But then we get to this scene where we look at a registry of living and dead players:>"They're already dead" You say with as somber a voice as you can muster."Wha-how? Is it seriously that dangerous out there?""No""Then how the flippity FUCK DID SHE DIE!?" She points at one name in particular, tears forming in the corner of her eyes.You read the name.Anonimiss."Who was she?""M-my sister, she said she was gonna show me how to play an MMO, I was supposed to m-meet her a-and then everyone was in the plaza so I was waiting and then..."She breaks down in your arms....I mean she's named Anonimiss and we quoted Fist of the North Star so it's...funny?IN CONCLUSION:HARD NO RECOMMEND. Oh dear lord HARD NO RECOMMEND.Where do I even start? Most of the time we're running around doing boring MMORPG tasks and punching animals, the tone is widely inconsistent, the setting is poorly fleshed out, the drama is beyond forced, the waifu is forced, the waifu wars discussion is obnoxious...I can't really say much about the writing because there just isn't a lot of it. There's just so very little substance. Most of it is surface level descriptions.My advice is to start over. Make it your own setting with your own characters and doing it this way will force you to create characters and setting and story instead of getting by through referencing the show. -cont
>>606964Thanks!>>611021Could you do mine next? I would love to know what you think about mine.
GENESMITH'S REVIEWS REVIEWREVIEW #TOOFUCKINGMANYWRITTEN AS IT IS READDISCLAIMER:I don't read any of GeneSmith's quests but I assume they are roughly on par with all the shitty quests he reviews.So it starts and, oh god, here we go. GeneSmith is reviewing another quest again. No one really wanted it. the QM sorta barely gave consent but whatever, I guess this is happening now.He also knows nothing of the series or the abridged parody. Hmmm, maybe the quest isn't for you then bucko? Why does everything need to be accessible to everyone? Read Dragonball before you play dragonball quests, etc etc>I'm sort of leery of this quest already to be honestI'm sort of leery of this review. So far of all the quests he's read I think his most positive review was my take on You Awake in Westeros which is just a giant memey clusterfuck parody of a stupid concept. If this doesn't tell you not to take GeneSmith's opinions for the trash they are, I don't know what will.>IS this secretly Idiocracy Quest? Is this secretly trying to be a joke? GeneSmith is less funny than any of the humor in any of the quests he reviews. No it's not Idiocracy Quest. Idiocracy has nothing to do with this but ok I guess you're mentioning it. >having flashbacks toThis is going to be the very shitty catchphrase of this review. Where he calls back to all his other reviews shitting on quests he doesn't like rather than just review all those quests on his "list" that are actually halfway decent that he just doesn't want to talk about because it's less funny than shitting on some subpar quest.Even though it isn't funny. Because I think GeneSmith might actually be autistic.>I just want to remind you /qst/ that you said this was good.Who? Who said this? I don't even care. We also said that Northern Beasts Quest was good and told you to review that and instead you decided to . . . just not? I guess quests need to demonstrate our "woefully horrible taste" for you to ass yourself to write a few shit posts about it. >Why don't you change itFixfics are shit fuck off.>Oddly powerful for a drop from a pack of wolvesFuck off, the wolf mask was the best part about the quest IMHO. It was something fun with a neat mechanic. No, KayabaQM! If yo don't simulate the boring realities of early level MMO drops you have failed in your duties!>>610948Here we see a competent QM who wants a review getting passive aggressive towards GeneSmith for just randomly reviewing this quest out of the blue. You're right GT, Genesmith is a cunt.>And now I'm having flashbacksI'm having flashbacks to your shitty reviews you dumb cunt. >I think this is funny to someoneYour reviews as of late are funny to no one.>Unless you've seen SAO you know jack shit what's going on.Who reads a SAO quest and DOESN'T know what SAO is? Here's my first recommendation: Don't play SAO quest if you haven't watched/read SAO.-cont (maybe)
Man, things seem a little chaotic in here.
>>611122My question is does it get better? Should I bother reading the next thread?>>611125Sure. What's your quest?
>>611122>HARD NO RECOMMEND.There's the fix I was looking for.>-contbutwhy.jpg>>611132jaysus kee rist>>611137Hello Schteel, happy for you to join us.
>>611142Not so Glorious Quest!http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Not+so+glorious+questThanks in advance!
>>611153Quick review of Not so Glorious Quest:It's fucking great. Calm down and keep going.
Is genesmith the same reviewer as Reviewanon that was in the /tg/ wqtg?
>>611132PUNISHEDTRICK'S GENESMITH'S REVIEWS REVIEW REVIEWREVIEW #1WRITTEN AS IT IS READYou both write shitty quests. Genesmiths reviews are at least somewhat entertaining though. You're just an annoying cunt.
>>611157Thanks, but I'm curious about what he thinks about it. : |
>>611142Doesn't seem like it's your thing, but people seem to like it for some reason.
>>610880>>611021>>611122"WHO WANTS TO READ FOREVER?"t. GeneSmith, the guy that writes "reviews" that go on forever.
>>611142Trick does have one point though.Didn't you say you were gonna review Northern Beasts Quest? And a couple others too. In fact, you promised reviews to quests that've died since you last reviewed.
>>611170He'll think it's shit.See: every review he's written.
So, we're worried about our player draught, right? So, there was a suggestion by an enlightened anon here: >>>/qa/689136I think it's a good idea!
>>611165>GeneSmith>entertainingPick one. Dude's a cunt and had it coming
>>611210A small part of me wants to see the world that choice creates.
>>611213But the reviews are genuinely funny to me tbqh famalamMaybe you should stop trying to be an edgy shit
>>611241Thanks for your opinion, frogposter.
>>611241>edgyWhat did I say that was edgy?
>>611132>I want to take a moment to thank my player baseGreat, just what a review needs. Virtue signalling. Is this why you don't review quests infinitely better than your own piece of shit writing? Because then you can't feel smug and superior you're better than some rando or your players are better than some rando? >There is no charm hereIs GeneSmith secretly reviewing himself?>Its dumbI don't like THING! THING BAD BECAUSE ME NO LIKE! Why? Why can't she have cat ears? The explanation is halfway decent considering the lore. It's interesting to think the nervgear accidentally confused her cat ear headband for real ears and incorporated it. It's interesting enough.>really, really thankful my playerbase never acts like thisAgain more weird virtue signalling. GeneSmith continues his 'review' and to be fair, he has a point.The effort into the quest isn't the best, there are glaring tonal changes and at the end of the day this quest is not "high art". No quests on this site are but this is definitely indicative of someone new to QMing. But let's look at GeneSmith's recommendations.>Make it your own setting with your own characters and doing it this way will force you to create characters and setting and story instead of getting by through referencing the show. So his recommendation is don't make a fanfic quest. Look, I understand >fanfic is absolutely disgusting but you can do a SAO quest and do it well. GeneSmith doesn't like SAO and that's fine, but your recommendation can't be 'don't tackle this source material'. Especially since . . THIS GUY RUNS A FUCKING SCOOBY DOO FANFIC QUEST!Like, shit nigger. Why don't you make a setting with your own characters and doing that will force you to create characters and setting and story instead of getting by through referencing a cartoon dog.At the end of the day, I feel like GeneSmith is an unhelpful reviewer. He is more likely to make nu-QMs and QMs who need improvement to do the wrong things/stop QMing.His opinions are shit and I felt this one in particular was the most egregious.GS fucking BEGGED to review this quest, despite admitting multiple times in this review he has no experience with or depth in the subject matter. Which begs the question of WHY he wanted to review it. I sure as shit don't know. And when the QM, as a good sport, gave GS tentative consent, GS immediately decided to tear into the guy and act like this motherfucker had it coming for daring to write something so abysmal. I don't like this shit and I can't support it. KayabaQM, you definitely have room to improve BUT PLEASE DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING GS SAYS TO HEART!
>>611226I know, right!? I'm still giggling.Also, I meant drought. Oops.
>>611132>No one really wanted itI have a huge backlog of requests. I got a request just after this review. If there wasn't a demand I wouldn't be doing this Trick.>Maybe the quest isn't for you then bucko?I don't know the series or the abridged parody but I believe that when you're watching a movie or whatever you shouldn't have to refer to paragraph B subsection D or the official lore guide to "get" it.>So far of all the quest he's ead I think his most positive review was my take on You Awak in Westeros which is just a giant memey clusterfuck parody of a stupid concept. If this doesn't tell you no to take GeneSmith's opinion for the trash they are I don't know what willI think we're broaching on the true reason for your post.Westeros hurt you, didn't it Trick? It's the best thing you've written and the fact hurts you.It wasn't bad Trick. You are not a bad writer.>Idiocracy has nothing to do with this but ok I guess you're mentioning it.The idea is that people use advance VR technology that can make any kind of world and waste it making wolf punching simulators. It just feels like a concept that would show up in Idiocracy.>This is going to the very shitty catchphrase of this reviewThe idea was to draw comparisons between problems in this quests an problems I've seen in other quests. I might have to do a "common QM problems" write up one day.>I guess quests need to demonstrate our "woefully horrible taste" for you to ass yourself to write a few shit posts about it.Must I review a good quest? How many good quests do I have to review before I pass your test and get my gold star?>Fixfics are shit fuck offBut why exactly?>The wolf mask was the best part of the quest IMHOThink about what you just wrote. Think about it hard. That's like saying the lightsaber was the best part of Star Wars.>If you don't simulate the boring realities of early level MMO drops you have failed in your duties!Oh he simulated early level MMO grinding alright. That's not why its a problem. Its a problem because it raises the question of why other players aren't decked in super gear when you get THAT from a pack of wolves.>Here we see a competent QM who wants review getting passive aggressive towards GeneSmithSomehow I doubt he thinks I'm a cunt Trick. It rather says a lot about you that a reminder for a private review is taken as calling me a cunt.I think you're hyper sensitive Trick. You've even said as much in the past. You need to calm down.>>611153Reading it right now.>>611165>Both write shitty questsCan you tell me what's wrong with BioArmor? I've been dying to get my work critique. You can't fix a problem you don't know about.>>611181Not my thing at all. But if you guys like it there's no harm in having fun.>>611182The summations were written for you.>>611183I wasn't aware I would get shit if I skipped stuff from the list. Sometimes you just don't want to force yourself to read something even if its good.
>>611248I aim to please>>611255> what did I say that was edgyLiterally everything
>>611283>I wasn't aware I would get shit if I skipped stuff from the list.What do you think lists are for?
>>611283Nigger I have a giant ass quest to ignore and procrastinate about so let's square the fuck up, bitch.>If there wasn't a demand I wouldn't be doing this Trick.First of all, yeah you would you autistic fuckwit. Second of all, we haven't had a review from you in a long time and no one was moaning about a lack of content from your sorry asss. Fuck you.>when you're watching a movie or whatever you shouldn't have to refer to paragraph B subsection D What about tv shows where you're expected to watch previous seasons? Or the second LOTR movie where you need to watch the first one first? Or Mass Effect 3 where you need to have played the first Mass Effect . . . oh wait, I guess you should work at Bioware GS!>That's like saying the lightsaber was the best part of Star Wars.Nigger are you implying the visual imagery of a blade made entirely of colorful light is NOT one of the biggest thing STAR WARS has going for it? Like, shit dude, stop having bad taste. Powerful imagery is a valid reason to like a thing.>decked in super gear when you get THAT from a pack of wolves.There are probably a variety of drops from various creaturs of various rarities. Also I think SAO has some sort of "limit" on certain things, which you obviously wouldn't know since you haven't watched the anime, but sure keep spouting ignorant opinions.>I think you're hyper sensitive TrickI think you're a fucking faggot. You've implied as much in the past. You need to stop being autistic.
So does anyone actually do genuine reviews anymore, or is it all just shitposting and first impression stuff? We used to have really useful ones back on /tg/.
>>611283>I got a request just after this reviewWhat the Shinobi Quest?The dude requested that months ago.And it's Graham.
>>611331Well this isn't /tg/, is it? Rest in peace, reviewanon.
>>611331I remember ReviewAnon and him actually taking the time to read stuff and give useful criticism on it. It seems like people now kind of review to get popular instead of actually trying to critique things in a useful manner.
>>611331There was this one anon who did genuine reviews. He reviewed mine and a handful of others but he vanished when the world needed him most.I still have my screencap, I cherish it so.
>>611331genuine reviews take a lot of effort mang. We didn't exactly have a lot of them on tg, either.>>611283>I wasn't aware I would get shit if I skipped stuff from the list.it's a thing, yes.
>>611331I still miss GBUAnonGood/Bad/Ugly is definitely the best way to review things like quests.It helped that he actually read the shit he reviewed and didn't decide to spend a half dozen posts picking apart the first few threads of a quest because they didn't fit his delicate view of how things should be written.
>>611283Your prose reads awkwardly. Almost every sentence starts with "You" or "You're". Also amnesia is a terrible plot device. It's basically just poor man's joker quest with probable yuri.
>>611343I still feel guilty for nearly killing him with my quest
>>611283Hey, remember that time I requested you review Tuffle Quest? After reading what you wrote here and witnessing your general demeanor towards people, feel free to shove Tuffle way down in your list or preferably off of it.
>>611406Death Among the Stars.He said he was going to review it next and then nothing. He disappeared for a few weeks I think then came back saying I had tricked him into reading a civ in disguise and that the number crunch nearly killed him.Was a good review though, was very helpful.
>>611283Gene sir, do you believe your reviews to be of any good?
>>611367>tfw I do this all the timeHow do I stop
>>611462As a quest, starting most sentences with "you're" is a given, since most quests are second person or whatever.Try staring a sentence with a verb. "Walking to the store, you blah blah blah"You can also try declaratives like "That's not supposed to happen!" or other such things
>>611462Basically: >>611478What that guy says. Sometimes you can spend a paragraph or two describing the scene as well or going into the MC's thoughts.
>>611462Avoiding second person? Just use verbs or misuse adverbs, spin in some internalization/MC commentary. Basically what Punished Trick said.
>>611462Practice. Write shit, then catch yourself writing awkward sentences and paragraphs. No, there are no magical pills that make you write better. You have to do the actual goddamn work.
>>611185Except that's demonstrably false. I have given positive reviews before.>>611255>Dude's a cunt and had it comingThat's not exactly the polite way to disagree with someone. It doesn't make you sound cool.>>611292I will no longer keep a list. I apologize. I meant it to be more of a "what has my attention" list. I meant it to be a list of potential reviews. >>611260>Virtue SignallingSo that's another phrase that /pol/ has drained of all meaning huh?>Is that why you don't review quests infinitely better than your own piece of shit writing?Am I not allowed to be thankful that my playerbase don't throw fits over waifus and communicate with one another like adults just because you need to feel like you're standing up for someone who's never asked you to be their white knight?>Its interesting to think the nervgear accidentally confused her cat ear headband for real earsPlease explain how the computer confused felt tid bits on a headband for functioning cat ears that belong on a human's head.>Like shit nigger., Why don't you make a setting with your own charactersThe problem here Trick is that you're misunderstanding what I've written. I never said it was bad because it was a fanfic quest. I said it would help the QM if he could make his own setting because it would improve things like the scene with Kayaba.In the Quest the scene with Kayaba would have been a lot better if the QM didn't treat it as something we already "know". He treats it more like a milestone to be passed and gotten out of the way than something for the character to interact with.That is what I meant with "doing it this way will force you to create characters and setting and story instead of getting by through referencing the show"Also, if you'd read any of my Ghoul Quest stuff you'd know they have extremely little to do with Scooby-Doo besides character names.>Which begs the question of WHY he wanted to review itBecause I thought it would be an interesting read. I like the premise of being trapped in a video game if nothing else.>GS immediately decided to tear into the guy and act like this motherfucker had it coming Unlike you I have no problem with the person. I'm sure Kayaba is a good guy. It's the work I review, not the person. That's a difference you need to understand Trick.>Kayaba QM, you definitely have room to improve BUT PLEASE DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING GS SAYS TO HEART!I'm sure he's appreciative of the Trick Defense Force coming to save him from the scourge of criticism. >>611434I've gotten thanks from people before, both QMs and readers. I'm not the only one that thinks I do good.
>>611516>I have given positive reviews before.You have?
>>611516You don't suck at reviewing necessarily. The problem is that you're being an attention whore and a drama queen. Cut that shit out. Seriously, scrolling past your inane ramblings about shit nobody cares about is a almost a hassle for me now.
>>611516>scourge of criticism.There's constructive criticism and then there's being a cunt, trying to be 'funny' by ripping into someone else's work to make jokes at its expense.
I hid the whole conversation after it became pointless drama, and I encourage anyone who wants actual discussion rather than shitposting to do the same. I asked for the review because I wanted to know what he thought, I got that, didn't need anything else, thanks and goodbye, I'm gonna get back to actually running my fucking quest.
So Hiro's throwing in the towel and 4chan on its deathbed... RIP in peace /qtg/.
Gods above, this is some premium shitpostingI love it
>>611571For real? got a source on that?
>>611571Still waiting on the link.
>>611568>I've gotten thanks from people before, both QMs and readers. I'm not the only one that thinks I do good.There were those reviews requested by QMs on that list, maybe you should do those? Like Kayaba said, maybe they wanted to know your thoughts. Maybe some still do.
>>611589Dammit. Meant here: >>611516
>>611496>>611367>>611462>>611478>>611487I'm a little leary of just changing "You found a penny walking to the diner" to "Walking to the diner you found a penny". Does it really sound better that way or is it that the variety of sentence structure sounds better?>Amnesia a bad plot deviceI've been worried about how I've been using it sense the start of the quest. We're at the third episode and most of her memory is back already. The amnesia was really so that she could start the game from a position of neutrality with respect to the factions. Can you tell more about what you think about my use of amnesia?>>611487I've been trying to be better about describing scenes leading into dialog. I try to combine internal observation with it. Like recently the MC walks on a country road and I spend a few sentences writing how nice it feels to be out in the country and able to feel things without a giant beetle shell getting in the way.
>>611516>So that's another phrase that /pol/ has drained of all meaning huh?Not an argument.Am I not allowed to be thankful that my playerbase don't throw fits over waifus and communicate with one another like adults just because you need to feel like you're standing up for someone who's never asked you to be their white knight?See this is where the sour grapes is becoming apparent. "M-m-my fanbase is s-s-s-so much bettter!Personally I think you're just sour grapes that Kayaba is more popular than you.You bitched earlier up in the thread that "Sword Art Online" quests get three times the viewership you do and then you proceeded to unleash one of your most vitriolic reviews on the guy.I think it was not up to reviewing standards and I think you're trying to justify your salty envy by channeling it into a scathing critique of his quest.I really think you should fuck off.I have a problem with the attitude you have and your review style.Your advice is shit because your advice attacks the premise of the quest and not how to just write slightly better. You are the worst person to review this quest for multiple reasons. I think I'm done unless your next guaranteed response says something that I think is worthy enough of being mocked.
http://anonkun.com/stories/symbiote-quest/T6xYtac9nx29Tsec6Wrote that little update out. Voting for anything won't show unless I get the urge to write while on my break or in the next two days.Also Spartan Quest either tomorrow or Saturday. I definitely hope to run it before the break. If you got my twatter watch that for an announcement regarding either of those.
The thing with GeneSmith and his reviews is the more biased he knows a review might be, the more eager he is to do it. Most reviewers would take the opposite approach, knowing they shouldn't try to harp on something they already know they're going to hate going in, but for Cosmic it's more motivation. In this case, he's biased because it's a quest based on modern anime which he hates, and it's a quest he's already shown to be bitter about the popularity of.That's what the main problem of GeneSmith's reviews is really, the fact that he's motivated out of bias. It's why he's never given a positive review ever. It's never "Huh, I'll check this out and write down my thoughts and analysis of this," it's always "Now here's an opportunity to take this QM down a peg." It's why he never bothers to review a full quest, or even a significant portion of one, instead opting to just shit on the first thread or two before dropping it. I'm sure Roger Ebert walked out on his fair share of movies in his life, but would he be the respected film critic he was if he walked out of EVERY movie he went to see, then wrote a scathing review on the first ten minutes? GeneSmith never comes across as a guy who knows his stuff about quests (because he doesn't.) He just comes across as a guy who wants to big himself up over other QMs.
>>611611>Spartan Quest either tomorrow or Saturdayexite
>>611516>>Dude's a cunt and had it coming>That's not exactly the polite way to disagree with someone. It doesn't make you sound cool.I wasn't expecting to sound polite, I was calling you a cunt.
>>611537They're right there in the pastebin.>>611568>>611589>>611593Well unless I'm reading it wrong he was fine with the review but hated the drama fallout>I got that, didn't need anything else>>611603>Muh fanbase I never said better. I said I'm thankful they don't throw fits over waifus and communicate with one another like adults.>Most vitriolic reviews on the guyI'm so mad I can't find that Harlan Ellison Watching video about criticism>>611618I have given positive reviews. One to Trick, one to a WW2 Magical Girl Quest, one to a Hikomori Dungeon Quest.When will this meme die?>He's motivated out of biasI'm sure I couldn't have gone into this quest hoping for a good take on SAO and the trapped in a computer genre. >Never bothers to review a whole questVelo Quest>Or even a significant portion of oneFirst 12 threads of Joker Quest isn't significant?>It's always "Now here's an opportunity to take this QM down a peg"Except when I've given positive reviews.Interesting you would say that. Can you point to anything I said in my review that attacks the person instead of the work?>>611632And that's an edgy attitude. You've just explained it to yourself.
>>611618>>611603Pretty much these.The sour grapes are immense.
>>611681If its sour grapes than please point out any criticism you felt was unfounded and motivated purely by jealousy?
>>611676>And that's an edgy attitude. You've just explained it to yourself.How does not liking you and not trying to sound polite to a dick over the internet make me edgy?
>>611676>First 12 threads of Joker Quest isn't significant?Not trying to nitpick but no, twelve threads of any 3+ year running quest is unfortunately quite insignificant.
>all these QMs using their trips when they're not even talking about their questbaka desu senpai
>>611487Hey Schteel, should I read the entirety of Magical Girl Liberty?
>>611793Sure, if you're into Magical Girls and mindless pulp action adventure and heavily implied yuri.
>>611676Finally found that video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQOslFoecg&list=PLn5mSh00tKGGwiZ0CsZvWAzA0M2xQn8jA&index=27It helps if you watch the entire thing. But the main part I want you both to see starts at 2:40.
>>611688Alright, I'll play detective.Clue #1: Someone asks for hidden gems, stipulates you probably shouldn't recommend your own quest. >>607445You do anyway. Demonstrates a sort of animalistic . . . desperation. Clue #2: >>609730>My BioArmor Quest takes influences from 90's anime (and even more from 1920's science fiction, but don't tell anybody!) but its 100 percent original and it gets like a third of the players a Sword Arts Quest gets.Here is where you first specifically mention Sword Art Online and how much more popular it is than your own original quest. Combined with the desperation for exposure in Clue #1 and we see the beginning . . . indicators of sour grapes. Nothing conclusive yet though.CLue #3: >>610160See what's interesting is you specifically say >Sword Arts Online? Is that the anime where everyone is trapped in an MMORPG and the main character is a teenage twink hacker?Which is odd, since previously you had mentioned 'Sword Arts Quests' in Clue #2. Which is odd, seeing as you seem to know nothing about it. The only conclusion I can draw is that you've seen the quest in the catalog previously and noticed it was popular, having a playerbase three times the size of your own as you admit. I find it odd that the name of the quest stuck in your brain despite you knowing nothing about the subject material. A real case of envy would explain why you remembered it, but so could any other anon in the thread mentioning it. Still nothing conclusive. Clue #4: >>610021The QM himself mentions that he is slightly upset >That kinda stings, I get it, but still, ouch.He has legitimately been hurt by hearing scathing critique of his quest in this thread. He's handling it well and isn't blaming anyone, acting mature. But still, its obvious to anyone reading this post he's not the happiest with getting shit on. AND YOU HAVE MOST DEFINITELY READ THIS POST!>>610160Not only have you read it and seen his reaction, but you then proceed to pester him about his quest. >...So what's your quest like? What's the plot?>Can I review it? I haven't doe one in a while.You ask to review this quest you know nothing about EXCEPT the fact that it is three times more popular than your own quest. >>610245The QM responds with>Feel free to scour suptg for it and review it.Not exactly the most glowing support for your request. I mean, you're exploiting the social pressure on him to say yes. If he said no to your request, it makes him look resistant to criticism, yes? He gives you a half-hearted yes that you take as your go ahead to absolutely tear into him.DESPITE KNOWING THAT PLENTY OF OTHER QMS WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR FAR LONGER HAVE DESIRE THEIR QUESTS TO BE REVIEWEDSo for some reason, despite lack of any enthusiastic consent, you choose to review this Sword Art Online quest instead of the various other quests you put in your infamous 'list'.
>>611840Clue #5:>>610495>Is this your quest? There's quite a few SAO quests.>Why is it so damn popular anyways?Why is it so damn popular anyways? This is like, the most forefront obsession of yours. Why is it popular? Why does it have three times as big a fanbase as yours? You are incredulous from the get-go that some other anime-related quest that is not your own has a huge following. Again, nothing conclusive, but it has been a trend for you to be concerned with SAO quest's popularity.Also as >>610469 points out you haven't reviewed a quest in months.Which begs the question, what has stirred your interest in reviewing this quest that so far your biggest talking point concerning it is in fact that it is 'so damn popular'.I would like the /qtg/ court to log all this evidence as this is the precursor to the infamous "GeneSmith review of Sword Art Online Quest"
>>611845Can you both just fuck off? Nobody gives a shit about your internet fight.
>>611874I dunno, I kinda want to see how this plays out.
gene quit being a dramafag and give me my review
>>611874This. Trick's a legit shitposter and who in the actual fuck cares what some namefag thinks about specific quests? Both are basically just jerking themselves off at this point.
>>611886I'm first on the line now, buddy.
>>611886>>611900Hey, I got here when he started setting up shop..
>>611903He ditched his list, now I'm first. Forever and ever. Deal with it or I'll call your parents.
>>610880Alright, I'm dropping the clue numbers at this point since we're in the review proper. Alright, I'm just going to point out a list of shitty things YOU DO NOT DO when reviewing something as they either have no bearing on the quest's quality itself/ the writing's quality.>If you don't like SOA why run a quest based on it? Its premise is hardly original. You had stories about people trapped in computers sense the sixties. Why doesn't OP just make his own original trapped in a computer story? I'm sort of leery about this quest already to be honest.Unrelated to quest quality. You're reviewing a fanfic, you don't get to attack the premise. And attacking the motivation for writing again has nothing to do with quality. Especially since the QM seems to like SAO abridged, which is what the quest is based on. >Is this secretly Idiocracy Quest? This is my first . . . what? moment reading the review and its some weird attempt at humor or just some weird off base speculation. Seems rather unrelated to reviewing the quality of the quest.>I just want to remind you /qst/ that you said this was good. I just want to remind you of that.Who fucking said this? Who told GS this? I think no one did and he is just responding to the random delusions in his mind because of sour grapes. He attacks the tastes of all of /qst/ based on . . . something? Because this quest is popular? No one said it was good. I think he's just upset less people reading his quest means his quest is even worse.>These quests hurt me /qst/. I just want you to know that.And yet this is the one you seem drawn too. I mean you haven't reviewed a quest in months AND you came into this disliking the source material it's based on and with a closed mind. And you were so eager that you asked the QM who gave no indication he wanted a review previously if you could do this review? So yes, why do you purt yourself through things that hurt you, GS? I believe it's because you are sour grapes.>I want to take a moment to thank my player base for not being the kinds of people that lose their shit when an attractive female NPC shows up. Sincerely, honestly, thank you.Again, over and over again we see GS comparing his quest, his popularity, his players to this SAO quest. Why? The quality of this quest has nothing to do with the quality of HIS quest. And it's not even like Kayaba can improve his players. He can't write better players into participating. It seems like he's just trying to expose how Kayaba's players, despite being much more numerous to his own, are much 'worse' because they don't act like GeneSmith's players. Which doesn't matter in the scope of a review at all. It's just randomly thrown in there because, once again, sour grapes.>Have I mentioned already that I am really, really, really thankful my playerbase never acts like this? Because I really am.And he does it again. The salt is real, folks.
>My advice is to start over. Make it your own setting with your own characters and doing it this way will force you to create characters and setting and story instead of getting by through referencing the show. Again, even if i"m wrong and GeneSmith has no sour grapes at all this advice is terribly shit.>Make your own settingThen it's not an SAO quest. He can improve on all these writing problems and still run an SAO quest. It really seems like GeneSmith just wants Kayaba to do something that will make him much less popular and get him less readers so GeneSmith feels better about himself.Even if I'm wrong, this review is still garbage.And that's pretty much it friendos.
>>611886>>611900>>611903>>611923>Quit being a dramafagI just want it to be clear that in spite of Trick's though-crime investigation I wanted to review this quest because1. I like trapped in a computer stories. I've written about this before. It got me to skip a lot of stuff on my list to review "Trapped in an MMORPG Quest" awhile back.2. I wanted to see if a SAO fanfic quest could be good sense as Trick himself pointed out earlier in the thread pure fanfic quests tend to not be so good.3. As I stated when I first started doing these reviews I stated that I wanted to focus on helping QMs concerned about the quality of their ongoing quests (as this one voiced in this thread).>Fighting over whose in lineI'm almost through the first thread of Not so Glorious. Really quirky. I sort of admire that he's not joking about taking every write in seriously. Drawings are also really cute.
>>611973It's part of cosmic's style in his reviews. He picks something more popular than himself and the whole time he just goes "This is so terrible, I'm so thankful MY quest and MY players aren't like this!"It betrays the fact that he isn't setting out to give constructive criticism, he's setting out to try and stop people from reading the popular QM's work and start reading his.
>>611979>Thankful MY questExcept I've never done that. Find where I have. Use direct quotes.>And MY players aren't like thatThey aren't. They don't spend twenty posts talking about skinning the waifu and touching her tail and yelling at each other.>Isn't setting out to give constructive criticismExcept I am.>Setting out to try and stop people from reading the popular QM's work and start reading his1. When have I ever written anything like "this is garbage compared to my quest. Read mine instead"? Again, use direct quotes.2. Yes. I'm telling people how to improve their quests as part of a grand conspiracy to drive people away from quests they love. You sure caught me you clever detective you.>>611967>He's actually going back and talking about stuff I've already answered while pretending I haven'tTrick you're starting to go full Cenk Uygur.
>>612032>I'm telling people how to improve their questsNo you aren't. You are telling them to abandon them. You're kind of a asshole.
>>612032Hey, I like your reviews. Can you review fantasy civ quest? It's on of the better civs out there and is WAY better then some of the shitty quests here. Let me know and I'll send you a link
>>612047But it's a quest based off of SAO and it's not trying to improve on SAO.So, he's kinda right.An asshole, yes. But still correct.
>>612032>except I've never done thatYou literally did in the SAO review.>They Aren'tBut you said they are, gene? "Have I mentioned already that I am really, really, really thankful my playerbase never acts like this? Because I really am.">Except I AmYou pretty much just bashed the quest and didn't give any tips on how to improve.He's suffering PTSD from all the quests that are more popular than his, don't make fun of his plight!
>>612050>>612032Oh my god yes. Do this.
>>612053But trying to improve on SAO would be taking it seriously, and therein lies the trap.
>>612050>>612079>>612032Do it faggot
>>612088You can take it seriously and also have jokes, too.
>>611840>>611845Trick, you may be a living shitpost who attention whore like no other 90% of the time, but when it comes to GeneSmith, you are 100% spot on.GeneSmith's reviews fly in the face of actual criticism, because his heart is rarely ever in the right place. The purpose of reviews is to give constructive advice to the creator, so that they can improve off of it, and learn from their mistakes. But so often GeneSmith tears down a quest simply on it's premise. Look at the case of SAO Quest. Here's a quest based on a modern anime, which GS has many times proved to have a bias against, and a quest that GS is already salty over being more popular than his, as he pointed out earlier in the thread. So we know GS is going to go into this quest hating based off that alone, so why did he bother to read it? Why did he bother to review it so quickly, when countless other QMs have been waiting patiently for his take on their own works, some waiting months by this point?To any QMs still waiting for a review from GS, stop waiting. Firstly, his reviews are trash and won't help you at all. And secondly, if he hasn't reviewed you yet, he's never going to. You know why? Because GeneSmith has nothing against you. GeneSmith doesn't get interested or excited with reviews of quest that are inoffensive to him. No, he's much more interested in quests ran by QMs that he has a vendetta against.GeneSmith doesn't review quests in the hopes that whoever's running them will improve, especially when oftentimes the main critique GeneSmith gives to these new, unsure QMs is "Don't run this quest" or "Don't run this type of quest." Instead, GS reviews quests in order to bring a spotlight on himself at the expense of people he's jealous of for a very petty reason. It's why he offers to review every single quest that gets mentioned, despite the fact that he doesn't bother to actually review 95% of them. He just knows that the more he SAYS he'll review something, the more of a reputation he earns as the resident Reviewanon, regardless of how many of the reviews he actually gets around to doing. Even when he does review something, it's all done with the intent of putting someone else down in order to build himself up. His criticism is flimsy at best as already mentioned, but his true intentions are really shown with how often he compliments his own stuff during the reviews. "This is terrible. I sure am thankful MY players and MY quest aren't this bad!" GeneSmith doesn't want to give Kayaba some solid advice. He doesn't want Kayaba to improve his craft. GeneSmith just thinks that by slamming Kayaba's quest (or rather, the first thread of Kayaba's quest, because READING IS HARD!) he can get people to stop reading it, while also bringing more eyes to his stuff... which is salty and petty and sad. And holy crap, this is the most anyone should ever have to write about fucking GeneSmith. This was not worth my time. I'll just go back to ignoring him now.
I mean, can't we just have fun with Quests anymore? Why do we even have this business of reviewing stuff if its just being used to slam people.
Personally I think GS is making reviews for the entertainment value instead of actual help, but missed a few memos here and there.
>>612130>can't we just have fun with Quests anymore?You remember where we are man?
>>612130Because we clueless rookies want to LEARN while having fun.
>>612130Hopefully ANIME/10 guy will come back sometime. That was both entertaining and insightful.
>>612109>or rather, the first thread of Kayaba's quest, because READING IS HARD!I would just like to once again point out that "WHO WANTS TO READ FOREVER?" is a line he has used in a review in the past. It really sums up his whole mindset in a single sentence.
>>612130Sow further confusion by making your own reviews too, Schteel. Then no one would be able to tell which GS is which.
>>612053Actually, it's a quest based on SAO: Abridged, which is a parody of SAO. Therein lies the key difference.It's a parody, not a fixfic. Airplane didn't set out to "Fix" or "Improve" cheesy disaster movies, just to make fun of them. Same thing here.
>>612150I don't think I want that. But it does sound funny.
>>612161start doing Tank reviews
>>612170inb4 T-34 or Abrams #1
>>612170>>612174>>612175Maybe another time. I'm content to sit and comment right now.
>>612161I kid. It was only a halfhearted attempt to egg you.Get back to juggling your multitudes of quests.
>>612183comment on tanks you fuck
>>612130>>612138GT's got it right. Many QMs seek constructive criticism on their work, because that's the shit that creator's crave. We all want to improve in our own ways, and we want people to tell us how. It's a shame that the one person actually writing reviews on a regular basis is doing it not with the intention of helping QMs in their quest for improvement, but to undermine them and to tell people to avoid them.>>612140That review was awesome, a ton of help and I still wear that rating proudly.
>>612192The M4 Sherman is the most misrepresented tank I have ever known. It was a reliable medium that served well in its function, could effectively take on the German heavies when it was upgraded to its fullest potential, and served well in all theatres of war in the Lend-lease program with the British and the Russians.
>>612207Thoughts on Crusaders?
>>612047>Abandon themI want him to start over, not abandon the quest. I feel that without slaving himself to the continuity of SAO (especially when he says himself in the OP that its shit) he'll have a lot more room to flex his creativity and avoid turning stuff like the episode 1 reveal and running into Kirito into inorganic milestones.>>612050Link me. But Not So Glorious comes first and I'm totally serious about that.>>612053>An assholeIf that's the worse they can say about me my response is that I'm still waiting to hear an argument.>>612058>You literally did in the SAO reviewWhere? Again, direct quotes. When did I ever say my quest was superior?>But you said they are Gene?Read it again. I said they aren't like that playerbase. They don't spend thirty posts calling each other horny idiots and being uncivil. They don't hate each other for preferring one girl to another. This is fact.>Didn't give any tips on how to improveStart over, make it his own, keep the elements he liked. That's my advice.>He's suffering PTSD from all the quests that are more popular than his, don't make fun of his plightI'm waiting for you to back up anything you said.>>612109>Because his heart is rarely ever in the right place.Glad to see thought police chief Trick has a deputy now.>Tears down a quest simply on its premiseAnd its characters, setting, tone, everything else you blocked from your memory as you scanned my review through tear stained eyes.>When countless other QMs have been waiting patiently for his take on their own worksThe list was never set in stone. I said that when I started it. Now I'm not going to keep one.>Why did he bother to review it so quickly?Because it looked interesting and the QM looked like he wanted some help. But no. It's because I have a conspiracy to make my own quests look better even thought I have never said my quest is superior to any other quest.>Firstly his reviews are trash and won't help you at allExcept for the QMs who have told me that I've helped them.>GeneSmith doesn't get interested or excite with reviews of quests that are inoffensive to himOh look, its the "he's never given a positive review" meme again.>GeneSmith doesn't review quests in the hopes that whoever's running them will improveWhat is Hitmaid?>Don't run this questAre you saying all quests deserve to be ran on the virtue of just existing?>Don't run this type of questWhen have I ever said this? Use. Direct. Quotes.>Its why he offers to review every single questOr maybe its because I want to make sure there's 1. Interest2. A need3. Permission from the QMBefore I put a pin in a quest.>His criticism is flimsy at bestHow about you talk about complaints I had about SAO Quest then? How about you talk about the review and not this mythic thought crime conspiracy you buy into?>Compliments his own stuffThe only thing I've ever complimented is my player base for not being waifu warriors.
>shame that the one person actually writing reviews on a regular basis is doing it not with the intention of helping QMs in their questWe need ReviewAnon back. It feels like every one who stepped up to the job after they left were just trying to tripfag their way to fame and reputation.
>>612207Do you feel the German "Tiger" Tank is properly represented in games?
>>612223The Crusader tank, despite its reliability problems coping with the desert sands (and its admittedly actually somewhat slow speed) did well in the face of adversity. I'm surprised nobody talks about it more considering it was the primary cruiser for the British before the Cromwell arrived.>>612252Not really. In fact I believe as whole the Tiger I tank is overrepresented. It was never too common of a tank on the western front and even then and the only reason we really see it as iconic is because a few people were extremely skilled and got extremely lucky with them.Of course I am a fan of the Tiger II so there's that.
>>612242>Oh look, its the "he's never given a positive review" meme again.I honestly can't remember you ever recommending anything.
BioArmor Quest Review - written as read.I haven't watched many 80s OVAs - just MD Geist, as well as a couple of other things I can't think of right now. I have, however, read Joker Quest. The whole thing, unlike Cosmic. And since he ran this quest in an attempt to prove he could do what he saw as the concept of Joker better, I'm more qualified to review this than Cosmic has been to review anything else.We open with "Inspired by all those trashy 80's OVAs like Genocyber, Guyver, Boah, Iczer, Megazone 23, etc."Can't say I like meta opening statements like that, but I suppose this sets the tone for the quest. Although ideally the QM would be able to do that through their writing.The actual meat of the OP, excluding the Twitter link, the opening statement, stats and chargen comes in at 130 words. Quite slim, especially for the very first post of a quest. Still, it sets the scene fairly well. The MC has amnesia, they're on a riverbank in a forest somewhere.There's a call for rolls, bo3 3d20. If this is chargen related, that's a mistake. Don't involve RNG in your chargen unless it's to break a tie. People are going to get annoyed, and they're going to drop your quest.Cosmic sets out a number of stats - hunger, apart from the others. Then mind, senses, physical, life and energy. All at zero, for the moment.Chargen is three questions - gender, profession and what the MC is scared of. I know from my vague memories of the rest of this thread that the last choice decides the appearance of the MC's armour. Gender votes are a mistake. This is a mark against the quest. If you're a new QM, don't do this. Ever.The other two options are fine. The last vote being obscure is a slight problem, but you can easily get away with this sort of thing.Girl wins the gender vote. Shitposters or not, people drop the quest. This is why you don't do gender votes. You instantly halve your audience.The writing of the next post is fine enough. It's mostly dialogue with enough description to set the scene. The MC struggles to remember who they are and is contacted by a man who is somehow able to talk directly to them via their brain.The post ends here, with a vote on what to say and how to react.There are no options. Write-in only. This is only for the big boys. This is the second fucking post, it's not a draw quest, nor is it a comedy. The players can't write in the first thing that comes to mind. They have to put in some amount of effort to come up with dialogue.Two posts into an OC quest. Not many people are going to be that invested. This sort of thing will cost you players.Cosmic receives a whole two write-ins. Both are one sentence long. Oh, and one post that amounts to "this".Don't do write-ins, kids.
>>612265>There are no options. Write-in only. This is only for the big boys.>This is the second fucking post, it's not a draw quest, nor is it a comedy. The players can't write in the first thing that comes to mind. They have to put in some amount of effort to come up with dialogue.>Two posts into an OC quest. Not many people are going to be that invested. This sort of thing will cost you players.>Cosmic receives a whole two write-ins. Both are one sentence long. Oh, and one post that amounts to "this".>Don't do write-ins, kids.To be fair, that worked out for Mecha Space Pirate Quest. Then again, that originally ran on /tg/ so it may not apply
>>612283It can work definitely. But there is a bigger risk of hemorrhaging prospective players with chargen and write in only.
>>612283It can work. It doesn't more times than it does, and when it does it costs you players.Unless you know what you're doing (and I'm not sure Cosmic does) don't do it.
>>612242>Use. Direct. Quotes.Why?Why would we need direct quotes? It's not like you would write any of this shit out.We're calling your character into question. We're doubting your sincerity, your ulterior motives, you competence and your bias. We are skeptical of your helpfulness and your skill. This isn't a court of law, you aren't up for any fines and as much as you hate to admit it, circumstantial evidence is enough to make the decision "yeah, no, i think this guy is sour grapes as fuck" Look, my biggest recommendation is don't go "looking" to review shit.Asking someone who has not asked for criticism ever if you have permission to review their quest is just a shitty thing to do. Even when you receive a yes, it indicates the desire to criticize originates with you and not the writer.Unasked for criticism is always going to reflect poorly on the reviewer. he didn't ask, he consented to your desire to shit on his quest and as such it makes you look like a person who doesn't have their priorities in order.Remember the ReviewAnon of old would only review a quest that straight up had the QM himself ask for the review. He never went "oooh, i really want to vent my personal opinions on this thing, I'll ask around to see if I can do that"
>>612153And you will notice I mention how the humor falls flat and the tone is inconsistent. It fails as a satire.>>612109>GeneSmtih doesn't want to give Kayaba solid advice.Thank you for the laser focused mind probe into my motivations and intent.>Or rather the first thread of Kayaba's Quest BECAUSE READING IS HARDWhen its this bad yes, yes it is hard. I asked if it got better. No one told me, so I'm assuming it doesn't.>This was not worth my timeOh come on. We both know the next time I hurt your feelings you're going to rise up on Trick's shoulder like Jaffar's parrot to get your two cents and five paragraphs worth in.>>612130>Slam peopleShow me where I attacked the QM in this review. Show me. That's all I'm asking.>>612259That WW2 Magical Girl QuestHikomori Dungeon QuestNot reviewed, but Northern Beasts and Undead Quest.
>>612265>And sense he ran this quest in an attempt to prove he could do what he saw as the concept of Joker betterDid I ever say anything like that?
>>612242>direct quotes or didn't happen>provides direct quotes on the "glad my players don't do this">"lol read it again didn't happen"I can't take this "argument" seriously, man.>Start over, make it his own, keep the elements he liked. That's my advice.THATS WHAT HE DID, AND YOU STILL BASHED HIM FOR ITAlso, here's the direct quote of you basically subliminally shilling your quest>My BioArmor Quest takes influences from 90's anime (and even more from 1920's science fiction, but don't tell anybody!) but its 100 percent original and it gets like a third of the players a Sword Arts Quest gets.The amnesia track isn't working out for you.
>>612320Yes, you thought Joker was trying to be an 80s OVA and wanted to run your own 80s OVA quest because you could do better.
>>612207The Sherman definitely is underappreciated, especially in its service in North Africa where it was a huge upgrade for British Tankers and they loved the thing. It was also simply an efficient tank, it was easy to produce, easy to drive and performed to a satisfactory degree in almost all roles required of it. It was definitely showing its age by Summer of '44 but only really in the Tank vs Tank role when fighting stuff like Panthers and Royal/King Tigers, something that the yanks especially very rarely had to do after the majority of German Armour on the Western Front was lost or destroyed in the Normandy Campaigns where it spent most of its time fighting the Brits anyway (and the British had stuff like the Firefly and Challenger to deal with that). Speaking of reliability, it was without doubt in my mind the most dependable medium tank of the war, Shermans did not break down, and when they did they could often be fixed in a pinch by the Battalion's techs. They were also comfortable, with hatches a normal person could be expected to fit through and enough room in the 75mm versions for everyone to do their job in a degree of comfort (in the 76mm versions the Loader got screwed a little bit and the Firefly was a nightmare for the whole turret crew because 17 pounder stronk-big). >>612256Much of the Crusader's perceived low top speed actually comes from the governors placed upon the engine to stop it from cacking itself (the Nuffield Liberty was a piece of shit) but without those governors you could actually hit speeds up past 60kph in the Mk III, provided you didn't throw a track or kill the engine. That was the Crusader's real issue and one that plagued all British tanks of WWII up until Cromwell and Churchill, they broke down a lot, either due to poor design, poor engines or poor manufacturing standards. It is still a good tank and it did sterling service especially in Tunisia and the later stages of North Africa in general, where the British units would often issue them to a Battalion/Regiments A Squadron and use their speed and low profile to flank around fleeing German columns and ambush them, holding them in place long enough for the Shermans or Grants of B and C to catch up. But it only saw service in North Africa, which doesn't get a whole lot of attention as a theatre these days. That relatively limited service in an oft-neglected theatre is probably why you don't see many people talk about it.
>>612347Did the Italians deploy any "original" armour to the African Front?
>>612362Plenty, from the L3/33 and 35 Tankettes to the M11, 13 and 14 mediums they were actually the most numerous Axis armoured force in the desert for most of the campaign. Unfortunately they were mostly crap and also crewed by the Italian army which was of 'highly variable quality' to put it kindly. They probably saw best service in the case of the Mediums in 6 RTR and the Australian Divisional Cavalry units which used captured ones to make up for the massive tank shortage the British were suffering at the time.
quest reviews was a mistake
>>612341>>612310what this anon said, the link to the previous threads is in this, the most current one
>>612347>>612362>>612407It's nice to talk about tanks.I will say though, my guilty pleasure tank is the SU-152. There's something so magnificently slavic about sticking a giant gun howitzer into a casemate and it somehow managing to function extremely well as a tank destroyer. It's not as derpy as a KV-2 but goddamn it's great. It's big brother ISU-152 gets the same love from me as well.
>>612335I noted in my review of Joker that the sex and violence and breezy plot made it like an 80's OVA. I don't run BioArmor to run up Joker. I run it because I had a crazy idea to combine elements of Guyver, Megazone 23, Slan, and Scanners.>>612331>Lol read it again didn't happenYou're conflating "my quest is superior" with "I'm happy my players don't have waifu wars at the drop of the hat."I said one and only one. I think you can find out which.>THAT'S WHAT HE DID AND YOU STILL BASHED HIM FOR ITWhen did he start over? When did he drop the SAO continuity albatross?>Subliminally shillingThank you laser guided brain probe, uncovering my true motives and intent for the greater goodIf you bothered to check the context of that post you'd know I was replying to a post by Trick in which he complained that fanfic quests got way more attention than original quests. I'm agreeing with him.>>612305>Why would you need direct quotes?Because that's what the big boys call "arguing a point using evidence".At this point you need a new name change. We should call you Trenk Uygur.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsVONO75utI
Third post is sort of inconsequential. MC gets mad at Rook - the voice - and screams at him. Rook attempts to placate her, apologising for what's happened. The dialogue here isn't especially well-written. I'm sure it sounded fine in Cosmic's head, but the lack of punctuation for a couple of the longer sentences makes them read in a monotone. Cosmic was fine about this in the previous post, so perhaps he had less time for this one, or thought the lack of punctuation made it more dramatic. If that's the case, it didn't work.The post ends with a vote on whether or not to sever the connection with him.Frankly, this is another mistake. It's quite clearly meant to be a major decision, but with only three posts in the quest so far the players don't have enough context, so it ends up being sort of inconsequential.The players vote to maintain the connection. Only two votes. I can't blame any other players for fucking off at this point because very little has happened so far.Next post is entirely dialogue. A lot of ellipses, of course, because this is a dramatic scene!Rook tells the MC she's at a military base near Mt. Fuji then introduces her to the fact that she now has a hunger for any biological matter - including human flesh.Not much to say about this. It's exposition, handled somewhat clumsily. The last two or three posts could honestly have been one.The post ends on a vote to eat or continue talking.The players vote to eat, Cosmic has now picked up a third.Next post is honestly pretty good - 470 words, about double the size of the any other post so far - something actually happens, though there's still plenty of dialogue, and Cosmic remembers that commas exist.So, having decided to eat, the MC draws in matter from everything biological around her, and the stats pop up again. Hunger is now satiated, and mind, senses and physical have all increased to 1. Then she angsts about having killed things and goes back to talking to Rook for more exposition. Cosmic exposits that the MC is a Manu, something designed to pass through the gravity gate, and that she lost her memory passing through whatever the gravity gate is, due to automatic trauma screening - something in her mind designed to protect her from traumatic experiences. Eventually, the ATS will allow her to remember what she's forgotten.
>>612456>only direct quotes are evidenceWell you're wrong and you're also double wrong but enjoy being wrong.
>>612456>I noted that this quest I hate is like 80s OVAs>Then I just so happened to, at the exact same time, come up with an idea to run a quest based on 80s OVAs!
>>612472I do believe that you aught not to misquote your opponent if you want to be taken seriously.
>>612508>taken seriously on fucking 4chanKEK
>>612508ND go home
>>612506This is a quite common source of inspiration. You see one artist, in your opinion at least, fail in a task, and you decide you would like to see if you could do better.
>>612508Pretty sure I correctly identified his implication.He's conflating direct quotes with evidence.
>>612453The Soviet assault guns are certainly fun, though funnily enough the ISU and SU-152s are actually more practical in a lot of ways at least in my opinion than their little sister SU-100, which cannot into going downhill because of its stupid low gun mount. I think I might add a note to the specs for it saying so at some point. They also lucked out with the AT effectiveness because of the hardness of German armour, and not just Face Hardened but also RHA used by the Germans (and Soviets for that matter) in WW2 was harder than say Western allied armour steel and so it was more brittle and spalled much more easily from HE hits. This does explain why Kursk does so well though.
>>612525Great.That means I'm qualified to talk shit.
>>612525That's fucking autism. Sure, include it in a LEGITIMATE CRITICISM, but don't just take the themes and ideas around a story, tell a QM they're fucking shit, and take those ideas and make your own quest which you then proceed to tell everyone "it's better than yours."
>>612529I write Kursk as experimenting with medium armor as well trying to bring in Cold War stuff to bolster their already stacked roster of elite crews. They're perfectly capable of fighting with just the casemates however.
>>612528He is saying that a direct quote would serve as evidence, while a reader's interpretation does not. Seems reasonable to me.
>>612506>>612525I'd actually been running the idea in my head for awhile. Originally it was going to be telekinetic bikers.Good to see Thought Crime is still in full swing on /qst/ though. Continue on with your totally impartial and in no way a slam piece review!>>612536It's like comparing Captain Marvel to Hellboy. The're connected by the most tenuous of connections.Please tell me what themes and ideas I stole from Joker. Go on. I'll wait.>>612539Trenk wants a REASONABLE DISCUSSION!
>>612539See now you're misquoting him, but I guess you could infer that is his overall point past that individual post is that reader interpretation isn't evidence. It is evidence. Perhaps not credible evidence, but I realize that's just arguing semantics.
>>612536Perhaps the part with the less than constructive criticism and the self inflation is wrong, but everything else about it, being the parts I meant to reference, is perfectly reasonable.
>>612538Yeah, I remember they had some turreted stuff in our early match against them. pls not too much Cold War stuff, it's just such a slippery slope and much harder to judge how things should perform because they often didn't see much or any real combat.
>>612538Were 1950s tanks like the M48 good?
>>612547>Continue on with your totally impartial and in no way a slam piece review!Mate, you haven't even addressed the review beyond the first sentence. Have you read any more of it?Do so and comment on it. Show me what makes it a slam piece.
>>612552He only asks to review quests he thinks are shit, and then proceeds to shit on them. He uses the three quests that aren't shit (that he reviewed so he didn't look biased towards shit quests) as an example of how "I'm not shitting on their quests"
>>612547My apologies, I was referring only to the narrative in the post I linked to. >>612551Your right, I shouldn't deem to correct what I read as a misinterpretation. Especially when in doing so I raise the question of the legitimacy of perception.
>>612547>Continue on with your totally impartial and in no way a slam piece review!Did you even read it? What part of that was wrong?
>>612547>Continue on with your totally impartial and in no way a slam piece review!Why are we talking about your reviews again? I thought this topic was about you wanting to do Joker Quest but better.
>>612555>>612560The reason I want to include Cold War tanks to a certain extent is because they had an indomitable influence on armored history, an evolution of sorts from the Golden Age that we had in World War II where we got tanks of all sorts. With the 1950s, that all evolves into the main battle tank concepts and what not. It goes in with LGA2's theme of evolution and change as well, with Tankery itself going through a bit of a "moneyball" phase where the big players and little players start to discover new ways to win in places they'd never think to look.The T-54 especially I want to find a place for specifically because it's the most mass-produced tank in anywhere.As for whether they were good, I'd need to do research. I'm honestly not too educated on Cold War tanks.Anyway, I must sleep now. Good bye anons.
>>612576Again, I was referring only to the narrative provided in the one post, something along the lines of "see thread I hate, thread does this, I will go do this my own way"
>>612265>Just MD GeistSo you've read absolutely NONE of the influences the quest takes from?By your own standard of judging WHY are you qualified again?>The whole thing unlike CosmicNow I don't know what would be more damning. You liking my quest or disliking it.>Chargen relatedIt's not>You instantly half your audienceIf they're autistic enough to leave because they didn't get the gender they wanted good. I don't want players that hyper sensitive.>>612576How many good reviews do I have to make before I get the gold star and a check mark in your book boss?>>612567>>612581>>612585This thread is locked in sup tg as BioArmor Quet 3. "In which we become the BioArmor". Don't act cute. I can see what you're planning.
>>612600>This thread is locked in sup tg as BioArmor Quet 3. "In which we become the BioArmor". Shit. Look I'm sorry some asshat misarchived you. That isn't cool.But...>I can see what you're planning.What? The review up top is a legit review of the first thread of your quest. With legit criticism.
>>612600>How many good reviews do I have to make before I get the gold star and a check mark in your book boss?I am not saying there has to be a quota, I just think you """review""" quests specifically to shit on them.
>>612600>So you've read absolutely NONE of the influences the quest takes from?>By your own standard of judging WHY are you qualified again?Oh shit friends, this is some irony. Let's go back and read your review!>I know very little about Sword Arts Online or the Abridged Sword Arts Online>I watched like three episodes and had to stop is what I'm saying.I think I'll mirror you again and disregard the rest of your post.
>>612600>How many good reviews do I have to make before I get the gold star and a check mark in your book boss?I don't know about that other guy, but I just want a "this is what this quest is" rather than being told by someone else whether I would like it or not.
>>612617Re-read what I wrote. By your own standard. You wrote that because you know Joker Quest you're more than qualified to review BioArmor Quest. But you haven't reviewed any of the things I'm actually taking theme and inspiration from.So again BY YOUR OWN STANDARD, why are you qualified? I'm not using MINE. I'm judging you BY YOUR OWN STANDARD.
>>61256050s tanks, sure. The M48, eh, it really suffered from its 90mm armament, a deficiency not fixed until the 70s iirc with the A5. But you some great designs like the Centurion and T-54/55. >>612586Thematically yes it makes sense but I'm a bit concerned by the risk that lies in the quantum leaps of capability between even early Cold War designs as compared WW2 tanks. You'd have to be careful to not open the floodgates as it were, Cold War stuff could be a cool accent to a match but if it were to become common in NATO leagues players would get so bogged down in trying to hoard as much as possible for the team that it could detract fromt the rest of the quest. It's also just harder to find details on Cold War tanks than WW2 ones, though the late 40s-50s stuff is generally doable. Anyway catchya later Schteel.
Welp, this stopped being amusing some time ago.
>>612600>How many good reviews do I have to make before I get the gold star and a check mark in your book boss?One. One would be a good start.
>>612608>With legit criticismSo far. But for how long?Suddenly he starts reviewing, and then suddenly I get misarchived. I can see where this is going.
>>612633Ideally all reviews would be like that, but that's a bit greedy, don't you think?
>>612650Honestly, with your level of autism, I wouldn't be surprised if you misarchived yourself so you can play the victim.
>>612650>I can see where this is going.Where?
>>612643>This memeI am so tired of this. I have given positive reviews.
>>612661Link me faggot, you can't make an argument without providing evidence :^)
>>612661The memr is, half of your quests are unfairly critical.
>>612630>BY YOUR OWN STANDARDOkay!By my own standard, I don't need to be qualified to review your quest! It was something mildly amusing I threw in at the last minute to talk shit about you. Qualified or not, I'm reviewing it as a quest, and focusing on your writing in general and your QMing, not the story or characters themselves.In fact, I'm not even reviewing it in a way that would require in-depth review of 80s OVAs.I haven't, as you have, complained about elements that require some knowledge of the source material.You aren't running fanfic.You're running original material inspired by 80s OVAs.Meaning I shouldn't even need to know anything about these OVAs to be able to follow or critique your quest.
>>612661You didn't say 'positive reviews'>How many good reviews do I have to make before I get the gold star and a check mark in your book boss?>goodAs in worthwhile.So yeah. I'll repeat myself. One good review would be a good start to be known as a decent reviewer.
>>612674Reviews of quests, not quests
Yo draw fags how did you learn how to draw gud? Like did you take classes, study a form, or just start scribbling on paper for years until you got gud?
>>612661The same goes for positive reviews. I want more than "I enjoyed it" nigh unreadable is the only thing, in my opinion, that deserves any form of value placed on the review, and then only if it is legitimately difficult to understand what is happening.
>>612678>In fact, I'm not even reviewing it in a way that would require in-depth review of 80s OVAs.Ah, I forgot to remove that line.
>>612650>Suddenly he starts reviewing, and then suddenly I get misarchived. I can see where this is going.You need some direct quotes confirming this correlation sir.BY YOUR OWN STANDARD, that's the only evidence that matters
>>612674>Unfairly criticalMeaning they hurt your fee fees and you can't stand it.>>612671http://pastebin.com/XBiQQxcqhttp://pastebin.com/pCbgwShbThey were in the pastebin in the OP you stupid jackass.
>>612650Oh, I missed this.Can you provide direct quotes on this?
>>612706>Meaning they hurt your fee fees and you can't stand it.Prove it with some direct quotes.
>>612706>hurt my fee feesYou never really reviewed my stuff, so I didn't really get hurt. What I can't stand is your impossibly high standards in your reviews.
>>612706Thats you GOOD review? What is the highest score you have ever given?
>>612706>fee feesCould you try arguing without using memes, please?This is supposed to be a proper debate, and you're lowering the overall level of discourseFurther:>LIGHT RECCOMENDATION>LIGHT RECOMMENDATIONCould you please explain how these are positive reviews?A positive review would be an unmodified recommendation, or a strong recommendation.Please provide a review where you do actually say that people should go out and read the quest.
>>612706Objectively unfair is simply not trueSubjectively unfair is an oxymoron.
>>612706>http://pastebin.com/XBiQQxcq>http://pastebin.com/pCbgwShbTentative recommendations of very young quests. Hmmmmm, I mean I don't think I've even been one of the people implying you ONLY give negative reviews. But still, if you think that's a "positive" review ummm, I got bad news for you GeneSmith.
>>612706>Positive Reviews>but I'll risk a veryyyyy tentative LIGHT RECCOMENDATION.No wonder I didn't remember any positive reviews from you. Cause you really don't have any.
>>612683Monty Oum's school of cutting corners: Optimize production speed. Also, imitating a rather simplistic art style helps.Doesn't do much help alleviating update delays when most of the time is spent on planning and/or writing.
>>612727To be fair to Cosmic, no quests are worth reading because the medium is simply garbage.
This is the worst /qtg/ I've seen in a while. I feel like we've finally returned to our former glory.
>>612753The medium is garbage, but I will continue to attempt to extract fun from the garbage until a better solution presents itself, possibly death.
>>612767Not as likely as some of you may hope, but possible.
>2016>Not reviewing my questsWowWhat a faggot
>>612762Yeah, it really makes me remember the good ol' days of /qtg/ proper, where people would spend multiple days shitposting about a single topic, be it planefag, EGO, or princess guard quest.Maybe this place can be home.
>>612720>>612727>Review is positive, just not positive enoughKeep moving those goal posts.A recommendation means I recommend it. it means people should go out and read the quest.>>612678>It was something mildly amusing I threw in at the last minute to talk shit about you.This is how I know you're making this a hit piece. You set up a "he stole from Joker Quest so much that I become more qualified to review his Quest than he's ever been to review anything else" narrative and now you act the angel. And now you say it was just something "mildly amusing" I threw in at the last minute to talk shit about you.>Not the story or characters themselvesSo you're selectively editing out those elements of the quest from your review. Uh huh. Why?>Meaning I shouldn't even need to know anything about these OVAs to be able to follow or critique your quest.I'm glad you finally agree with me. >>612691He starts a review "as it is read", meaning he would have hit the archive to pull it up.Suddenly I'm misarchived.The timing is awfully close don't you think so?>>612709It's in the archive.>>612713>Unfairly CriticalWhat else can that possibly mean but that your subjective opinion hurt my feelings?>>612719>Impossibly high standardsThen don't read them.>>612731>A positive review isn't a positive reviewSo it doesn't count unless its five stars all in I'm a fan and bought the T-shirt level positive? >>612753>>612762>>612767>>612802I just wanted to talk about writing Quests and how to make their writing better.Anyone want to talk about what I wrote about character and tone in SAO Quest? Or is it more about how I'm a jealous dick who TOTALLY RIPPED OFF JOKER QUEST because I said parts of Joker were like a bad 80's OVA.
>>612816I still hold that review against you, bastard
>>612816>wasting all this time to write shit and argue>when you could be reading my short lived and ongoing excrement
>>612820Et tu Medio?
>>612830I take offense towards your slander and misuse of my chosen title. Despite being an individual full of hatred, I raise you one maid image and end my turn/
>>612816>This is how I know you're making this a hit pieceI think you are jumping at shadows. Did your ego get hit too hard or something?
>>612816>it means people should go out and read the questOh, come off it. Don't fuck with me.You said it was a light recommendation. That doesn't mean anyone should go out and read it. You said they should maybe do it. Maybe.>angelAgain. Come off it. I admitted it was shit talking. There's nothing positive about it. I was being a cunt to make you angry.>So you're selectively editing out those elements of the quest from your review. Uh huh. Why?What the fuck?That's just how I'm reviewing it. I'm not selectively editing anything out. That's simply what I'm focusing on, much as you focus mainly on the story of a quest.>It's in the archive.Provide facts that prove misarchived it, or fuck off. Otherwise you simply come across as bitter someone is critiquing it.
>>612816>What else can that possibly mean but that your subjective opinion hurt my feelings?Maybe it means you're unfairly critical?Maybe its a subjective opinion that your subjective opinion is wildly inaccurate? This proof isn't good enough.>He starts a review "as it is read", meaning he would have hit the archive to pull it up.>Suddenly I'm misarchived.>The timing is awfully close don't you think so?That's not fucking proof.Just because he read your archives doesn't mean he misarchived your quest. It's completely different. You have no direct quotes.You have no evidence.>Then don't read them.I think we've confirmed today that nobody should read them.
>>612840Huyaga Quest >that one quest with boats and shitBretty gud9.5/103 Stars; will give you a 4th when there are maid outfits
>>612846Will try to draw maid outfit eventually
You can review mine, I guess. It's not that great, though.
>>612816Still waiting.At this rate you'll get outstaged by that one reviewanon who showed up for one bit.
>>612802Yup. Some things never change, especially the fact that most QMs are annoying, terrible people.
>>612844>You said they should maybe do it. Maybe>I give it three out of five stars>That' doesn't mean you like it! You don't like anything!>I admitted I was shit talking. I was being a cunt to make you angry.The first thing you write in the review is to be a cunt and make me angry. Can you see why I think you have less than noble motives behind reviewing my quest?>That's just how I'm reviewing it.So you're reviewing a book or movie except you don't want to talk about the plot, characters, tones, or themes. Gotcha. You do what you want to do.>Fact that prove misarchived.You click on it and it goes to this general. That's not enough for you?>>612868>Implying they're going to want to do it anymore after this threadThe only people currently doing reviews are myself and a guy that hates me.You act like this is something we're obligated to do. It isn't.
>>612923So stop? You won't be missed
>>612923How hard is it to understand.You aren't obligated to review.We don't want your fucking reviews.So you can stop.
>>612923>Can you see why I think you have less than noble motives behind reviewing my quest?It's 4chan, my man. People talk shit. Get over it.>So you're reviewing a book or movie except you don't want to talk about the plot, characters, tones, or themes. Gotcha. You do what you want to do.I'm talking about a quest. So I talk about the QMing and the writing.I've given brief overviews of the plot and, where necessary. If necessary, I'd comment on them further.>You click on it and it goes to this general. That's not enough for you?I. Left out a word there. Prove that I misarchived it, or fuck off.
Rolled 95 (1d100)>>612923Then stop Rolling to ban ;^)
>>612923>currently doing reviewsIf you can even count that shit you wrote as an actual review.
>>612923So out of curiousity, have you even given a look at the rest of the "slam review" or are you just completely ignoring it because you clearly know what it's going to be like because of one line?
>>612923>I don't feel comfortable weighing in on a quest when it's one thread old but I'll risk a veryyyyy tentative LIGHT RECCOMENDATION. The interactions between the taking magic tech dagger and the Hiki is charming and we have a clear goal. There also hasn't been a good old fashioned dumgeon crawl.This is like, bare minimum anything good. This is positive like responding with "eh" is positive.>There's only 2 threads in the archive so this is a young quest. It could get better or worse. But as it stands now I give it a LIGHT RECOMMENDATION. The characters and setting aren't particularly interesting but I feel that they could develop into something interesting as the quest continues. And there's nothing I find annoying or eye rolling. The tone is for the most part consitant. The characters are shallow but clear. The overall threat is clear and is slowly being developed and uncovered.And then this, which I thiiiiiiiiink I'd call positive. I mean "could get better or worse" is barely fucking positive, but sure. But even if I was to go, y'know what Cosmic, you did it. You gave something positive reviews.What's with this shit?>Not reviewed, but Northern Beasts and Undead Quest.You think these two quests are good but you didn't review them. So I mean, it kinda makes me want to go, well why? Why does all the quests that GeneSmith gives a hard no or a BARELY passing grade get made into reviews but the ones he admits are good, don't for some reason? Why have you not spent time giving thread space to good quests you want people to read?Northern Beasts could really use a few more players, despite being good and yet you've spent all your time giving /qtg/ space to either shitting on quests that you recommend people not to read or giving very fresh new quest barely passing grades which lets be honest, from an objective viewpoint, I would not read either of those quests considering your reluctantly "positive" final words.This evidence of what you've reviewed and what you haven't just sort of corroborates and strengthens the case that you don't review shit to give other quests more exposure.I think I've heard more about your quest and how it has "players that are agreeable" and other such kind words than any other quest you've talked about.
>>612923You're only worthwhile and interesting trait was your reviewing. Your quest was forgettable and the characters were so autistic it made my worst character seem charismatic. Congrats, comrade! You've officially reached Velo-levels of infamy, and for none of the good reasons! >tl;dr Have another maid, because I'm a kind QM and was your comrade in the past
>>612955>You'reMeant 'your'. Now excuse me while I go hang myself in shame
>>612880Now that's not fair. There are quite a few low-key, no-drama QMs out there who show no signs of being annoying, terrible people. Which isn't to say they aren't, they just make a point not to show it.>>612923>You act like this is something we're obligated to do.Honestly I don't even see the point in doing it. If a QM communicates clearly, makes as few technical mistakes as possible given the time limitations, and tells a story that draws people in, that's all that really matters. People will give the quests they find interesting at first glance a shot, and stick around if they like what they see.I honestly don't understand why someone would feel the need to review quests.
>>612944>and, where necessaryMore editing errors desu. Ignore this bit.
HAI GUYS I CAN DO REVIEWS
>>612923>You act like this is something we're obligated to do.I wouldn't, but then I remember you promised to me that you'll get around to the private review. Honestly until now I thought you just got abducted by IRL matters. Y'know, you could've just PM'd me saying:>"I change my mind due to <reasons>, I'm sorry. But at least you got a review by someone else, right?"Pardon my naivety for not knowing what's going on behind the scenes. Sure, promises could be broken but at least tell me beforehand. I shouldn't be riled up by things outside of my control, but you had your word.
>>612982>actually responding with a maid imageYou're my new comrade, anon. Let's make Maids the new standard for Questing.
>>613002>ship commander quest>not a quest about commanding an actual ship
>>613002Oooh that is some direct fucking quotes If I may say so myself.That is evidence.
>>613007you need to kill yourself, damned maidposterspost rare fat albert's
>>612923I still want my review, btw. I hope you don't get discouraged. But it's fine if you don't want to do it.
>>613026Damn that is pretty rare I must admit
>>613007MAID FOR THE MAID GOD
>>612923Hey, I know these other people are shitheads but I really like your quest. Can't wait for that review of the civ. Anyway, how do you deal with all these haters. You should just ignore them and talk to your fans.
>>612948I already said it looked good so far. A little criticism about my use of ellipses, a lot of criticism about selecting gender and things like that.>>612932>>612939>>612945>>612946Except I would be missed by people that want my opinion.I think I'm going to start emailing and PM'ing reviews to QMs from now on. I don't think /qst/ general is a good place to post them.>>612967>>612880Yeah. Its so easy to sit on the sidelines and poo-poo people trapped in a shit storm. >I don't understand why someone would feel the need to review questsBecause surprise surprise, for most of my reviews I was asked to by the QM. Here I thought I could help a QM and so I asked if I could review his quest.>>613002It's not like I gave you a date is it? I'll get you your review. You can call off the leg breakers.>>612955>It made my worst character seem charismaticYou're going to have to be more specific there Medio. They were all your worst character.>Why have you not spent time giving thread space to good quests you want people to read?Because I liked the first bit of Undead Quest until it started to look like it was turning into standard RPG slock and went "oh geeze, better hold off on reviewing it. Don't want to break my heart". I looked at Northern Beasts and saw we're hunting boring Lovecraft shit in the arctic and I hate that shit although its well written for a quest I don't want to spend time reading it. It's like passing over a mediocre paperback. Maybe I'll get around to it maybe not but the story just turns me off even though objectively the writing is good.Just because something is decent doesn't mean you want to keep forcing yourself to read it.>I think I've heard more about your quest Yes. Keep harping on how I paid my player a compliment instead of shit talk them like you do with yours. Not everyone thinks the people they write for are scum Trenk.
Hey /qtg/, I'm running Nazi Experimental Quest tomorrow, in case any fellow autists are interested.
>>613028Give me an email address and I'll send it to you.>>613058Are you the game's QM?
>>613078HES WENT ALL OUT, HES COMING AT EVERYONES NECK
>>613078>before long>one month has passedYou know what? I think...
>>613078>>613102...that's understandable. Just at least keep in touch with me on Discord so I don't lose track on your activities or inform me of any IRL matters. Perhaps we could have near-daily chatter about Waterworks or somesuch.
>>613078>It's like passing over a mediocre paperbackDamn, we're talking some serious shit now.Though that does bring to mind a decent comparison for your quest.In that you've totally succeeded in making a shallow, vapid 80s OVA where the story and characters are second to the action - only, you're unable to deliver that, instead miring it under hundreds of words worth of boring, contextless exposition.
>>613078>I don't think /qst/ general is a good place to post them.I'm glad we could come to an agreement.>I paid my player a compliment Contrast this assertion with>I never said my fanbase was betterSo are compliments of qualities your fanbase possesses that others don't not an assertion that they are in fact "better" or are they not?Why not review the first thread of northern beasts as you were reading it like usual? Or post a review of the first thread like you did to Kayaba's quest?You outright said that no one should continue reading Sword Art Online quest based on one fucking thread, why couldn't you outright say that people should continue reading Northern Beast Quests based on one fucking thread.Same goes for Undead Quest too.>Here I thought I could help a QM and so I asked if I could review his quest>HARD NO RECOMMENDSo trying to turn off any players looking into his quest from reading it because of your opinion is "helping"? Please stop helping.I recommend no QM ask for your reviews and any QM who ends up getting your review to take what you say with a giant grain of salt.
>>613096No, just a follower
Is it strange to feel happy that your quest isn't big enough to get the kind of attention GeneSmith & Trick are receiving? That just getting the same 2-3 players each session and nobody else will ever read or try to review your Quest is worth it in the end?
>>613207I maintain the stance that if you get one post that is either a good write in or shows a player's personal reaction every choice, you done good......king?
>>613207The key is to not make an ass of yourself. If you can do that, you can have the best of both worlds.
>>613108Sure. I haven't been on in awhile. I'll keep more in touch with you.>>613116>Mediocre paperback is serious shitAre we really that thin skinned that comparing writing done for free on an image board to mediocre paperbacks is "serious shit"?>Boring contextless expositionThat's nice. I'm sure your review will stick closer to my heart than the other positive review BioArmor received.>>613123Thank you. I'll get it to you ASAP.>>613166I'm only writing reviews for QMs now. If you can get me his permission and email I'll send him a review.>>613135>I never said my fanbase was betterYou control f and it pulls up only you. You are literally putting words in my mouth now Trenk.I said I'm glad my fanbase doesn't have waifu wars shit. That is what I said. You can continue to misconstrue it however you like.>Why not review the first thread of Northern BeastsBecause I don't want to read about antarctic Lovecraft hunting Trenk. It turns me off so hard. I just don't like it. And believe it or not I try to check my biases when I review something.>Based on one fucking threadBecause I asked if it got better and NO ONE told me that it did. Even you didn't say it got better.Even you Trenk.>Trying to turn off any playerSo that's what it come down to yeah? Not whether or not I have a point in my criticism but whether or not they turned people away.Trenk, you and I both know the IP count is not going to drop because I don't recommend the quest. >>613207I know how you feel. I've felt that way about a lot of my quests.Hold on to that feeling. Don't lose it Anon. That intimacy with your players is the best thing in the world about questing.
>>613207No it's not, it's perfectly fine to cherish your small playerbase. Makes the bond much closer. It's like...you learn in class better if there were just 7-10 students instead of 30+ other classmates.>coming from a guy with only 3-5 different players each thread
>>613224Hey, I run the civ quest and would like the review, I just didn't say anything because I thought you would give it to him
>>613207To be fair, Gene's Quest doesn't get that much attention either. Hence all the sour grapes.All the attention he is garnering is due to his asinine """"reviews""""
>>613224>the other positive reviewLink it. If I'm not talking shit I'd say your quest is just mediocre.The opening was incredibly weak. Too many options, too many write-on only votes or binary choices, and a lot of dialogue and exposition.To mimic your system, I'd give it a vague recommendation.Maybe read it if you haven't got much else to read, or if you especially like what it's aping.
>>613242>Too many optionsChargen choices, rather.
>>613135Look, this is how a review works.Someone reads through it as a Quester, plays along, yadda yadda and at the end say if they recommend it or not based on their opinion of the experience. You're not working for a publishing company, this is not your lifeblood or theirs, not a game you're looking to sell, nor is it a pitch. If the reviewer doesn't like the Quest, he just doesn't fucking like it. If someone doesn't like my quest or doesn't like yours or his or hers and has an opinion on it or some views on it, they're damn well entitled to them.I don't understand why the Hell you folks are channelling /lit/ when you should be channelling /co/. When did Anne Rice take over your ovaries? Are your skins really that thin, folks? Sheesh.
>>613256>when you should be channelling /co/But tumb- I mean, /co/ doesn't like mean words.
>>613224>You control f and it pulls up only you.>>611676>I never said betterYou legitimately are referring to your fanbase with this comment "I never said better" as in you never said your fanbase was better.>I said I'm glad my fanbase doesn't have waifu wars shit. And does this make them better than Kayaba's fanbase? Because that's the assertion I inferred and I believe it is the assertion you implied.>Because I don't want to read about antarctic Lovecraft hunting Trenk. It turns me off so hard. I just don't like it. And believe it or not I try to check my biases when I review something.But you read the first thread, right? Right?! That's as much as you read Kayaba quest which you hated as well. Just throw up a review about how great Northern Beasts is since you accept it has objectively good writing.>So that's what it come down to yeah? Not whether or not I have a point in my criticism but whether or not they turned people awayNo what it comes down to is this.You asked a man who gave no indication he wanted your opinion "Can I review your quest?" And then he said "sure, go ahead" and you tore into it like nobody's business and told everyone not to read it.He never once asked you for your opinion. You asserted you wanted to give it and he accepted. That puts the desire for criticism and evaluation on you and not the writer.Unasked for criticism is bullshit.
>>613207Let me tell you how Questing works.It's not a fanfic and It's not a novella. It's, in essence, an online gaming session where YOU are a game master. I think I see the problem here with the lot of you. You're bringing your egos into play. Good God, I hope none of you rub real tabletop sessions. A lot of you seem like really horrible hosts.
>>613256Look - oh. You're someone different. Alright. Look random person. I'm not saying he can't come out and say "this person's quest is shit". Anyone can do that. But no one asked for his opinion. I mean you can come in to the /qtg/ and just start shittalking every quest you dislike, but there's a difference between posting your opinion and adopting the mantle of being a 'reviewer'
>>613270I browse "Work on your webcomic" and "Work on your art" often to see how people get things done. There's cussing left and right, but overall, they're receptive as Hell to criticism and ask for references. Stylisation, formatting, etc they're all given a reference back so people can improve or change their scopes. /qst/ seems to be populated by a gaggle of folks from the "Powerful!God!Harem!Naruto" generation of writers - which is fuckweird.
>>613286>but there's a difference between posting your opinion and adopting the mantle of being a 'reviewer'Not really lol.
>>613295Hey, I get to call your character into question and have an opinion on why you say the things you do just as much as he gets to have his opinion on these quests that are much more popular than his but totally suck apparently
>>613297That's a long sentence right there. It may be the coffee or the 15 hours study session, one way or the other I don't understand what you mean. What kind of cars do you like btw?
>>613233Email?>>613228>Muh sour grapesCan you say anything about my criticisms of his quest though or will you continue to try and peg me for thought crime?>>613242>Link itIt's the most current review in the OP pastebin. Come on.>>613271>I believe it is the assertion you impliedOf fuck off already with this thought crime bullshit.>>613271>Just throw up a reviewI don't want to just "throw up a review". Unlke SAO where 2 thirds of it is punching wolves I'm going to have to write about characters, tone, setting, all that stuff because Northern Beasts actually has substance. I'm going to need to do a lot of work for it and I don't feel like doing it for something I personally just don't enjoy all that much.>>613279I do in fact run Dungeons and Dragons. My players love me. We're running a fresh party through Keep on the Borderlands this weekend.>>613293The people I actually review are respectful. They're nice. Their white knight fans are insufferable as hell though which is why I'm cutting them out altogether by just emailing QMs.Likewise the guy that reviewed my quest (the first one, not the guy that admitted he just wants to shit talk me) had some criticism and I took it to heart and made some improvements on my quest's writing.The "writer's workshop" thing really can work if you have the people for it.
>>613293>/qst/ seems to be populated by a gaggle of folks from the "Powerful!God!Harem!Naruto" generation of writers - which is fuckweirdMoving from /tg/ reset the quality standard. Plus all this empty space and the long-ass time it takes for quests to fall off the board, and you get a far lower barrier to entry than when we were on /tg/.
>>613271>Unasked for criticism is bullshitIf this applied in life, no one would bother. But I digress - whatever.
>>613308>Moving from /tg/ reset the quality standard/tg/ had multiple naruto quests with varying levels of success, this ain't a new thing.
>>613303>It's the most current review in the OP pastebin. Come on. Agreeable enough.More positive an opinion than I have but that's fine.My vague recommendation remains unchanged.
>>613315That's fine with me.>>613313I'm starting to wonder what would have happened if I reviewed Shinobi quest instead.
>>613303Excuse me? I was in agreement with him! What the hell!? That had nothing to do with criticism or sour grapes! Unless you misread something in my post.Besides, that greentext line was FOR ME. I wish I could hug everyone of my players.
>>613320Sorry. I linked to the wrong post.
>>613317>I'm starting to wonder what would have happened if I reviewed Shinobi quest instead.Do iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttAnd post in the quest thread while it's live.
>>613303MUH THOUGHT CRIMESeriously dude, you complimented your playerbase TWICE in your review of somebody else's quest. The whole while you were also shitting on the playerbase of Kayaba's quest. Sooooo what, is your fanbase NOT better than Kayaba's? Because generally when you go.>These guys don't do this thing and I like that they don't>These guys do this thingYou're drawing a comparison. That's just how talking about things fucking works. Also you admit you're fucking lazy and its easier to shit on a subpar quest than review a good quest which is just more evidence why you suck at your job and no one should listen to you. >The people I actually review are respectful.Excuse me? Are you calling me respectful because you've reviewed me?Are you claiming the way I've been talking to you is respectful?
You guys are all fucking crazy.Anyway.Cyber Demon Quest will run tomorrow. For the unaware, it's a high-violence, relatively fast-paced mixture of Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner, Deus Ex, and Genocyber - you are an ex-mild mannered corporate hacker who one day finds themselves transformed into a monstrous cyborg creature called a Steelshape (pic related: it's MC).Thus, begins a lot of very bloody deaths and improbable feats of decapitation, while other Steelshapes hunt him down, and maybe he does some conspiracy searching on the side.The first quest, if you're interested and would like to get up to speed, is here: >>579217 (Yes, this is my way of asking for a review because I greatly enjoy constructive criticism)./endad
>>613303Piss Off. You're just a thin-skinned, safe space, mommy-they-were-mean, how-dare-you-disagree egotistical jerked of an excuse who really just can't accept anyone on the bloody planet saying "Eh, I wouldn't recommend it".You're telling people on here - with their own views - that they're not allowed to express them. You're going to start attacking the next Joe who took the time to read through your drivel, my drivel, his drivel to write down their opinion and if they'd ask people to join in? That's the precedent that you're setting. You're telling everyone here. All of these Questers and QMs that their opinion isn't needed.Put your ego to rest. You're a grown man.
>>613330>ReviewGive me an email.>>613326Fuck no. I'm tired of this bullshit. Give me the QM's email and I'll send it to him.>>613328>Soooo what, is your fanbase NOT better than Kayaba's I said what I said. I'm glad they don't rip each other to pieces over Waifu wars. Make what you will out of that.>You're fucking lazy and its easier to shit on a subpar quest than review a good questIt's easier to talk about something that's two thirds punching animals then something with a list of distinct characters with their own motivations and aspirations.>Are you calling me respectful because you've reviewed me?When I gave your quest a positive review you were respectful Trenk. >>613339>Can't accept anyone on the bloody planet saying "Eh I wouldn't recommend it?"Excuse me? Are you sure you linked to the correct post? I've been defending my negative review all night long. When the fuck did I ever say anything like "you aren't allowed to express that negative opinion?"
>>613359>Make what you will out of that.But I did. I made it out that you were saying they were better and you implied I was incorrect.So what is the correct interpretation?Your fanbase is worse than Kayaba's? The exact same? I'm going to continue "making what I will out of it" by correctly asserting you were shilling for your own quest's atmosphere over the person you were reviewing because you're sour fucking grapes about it.
Hey guys what's going in he-
A Safe Haven Quest will have its new thread this weekend at a currently unknown time. I will post on my twitter when the time comes here: https://twitter.com/Stark1st but otherwise please be on the lookout this weekend.
>>613488don't lie, you enjoyed it.
>>613488Just the usual /qtg/ shenanigans
Let's be blunt, it doesn't matter whether Cosmic reviews shit Quests just to shit on them or not. Either way he's a really sub-par reviewer that wastes too much times on off-hand bullshit, never really gives any actual constructive criticism, judges most of the Quests he reads by what they aren't rather than what they are and can't be concise to save his own life. The old ReviewAnon and the guy who did Dark Academy were both infinitely better. Even Cosgrove made decent points of criticism when he had his silly butthurt explosion.
>>613488My reaction exactly.Hell, I'm glad at least one person reads my alone (The exodus kinda killed a lot of my viewerbase) but I just make the most of it. Hell so long as one person likes my shit I'm happy.Too many jimmies are rustling man, we need to calm down.
>>613330Review written and sent.
It seems my players are interested in a review of my Fantasy civ quest so much that one of them thought putting my name on is enough. >>601894 is the current threadI am on twitter @conannister
>>613644Are you writing reviews for any quest you see now rather than just requests?
If anybody has Genesmith's list of Quests to review, post it here and I'll get started on reviewing stuff when I get home from work.
>>613694Do Northern Beasts first.
>>613694Do motherfucking Joker Quest.The last guy got buttflustered.We need someone to measure its levels of MURRICAH.
>>613694Don't review Tuffle Quest
>>613694Aw shit, Schteel reviews hype! Do you plan on just keeping them to first impression style things so you don't have to read huge quests or more in depth?
>>613694I don't remember the others, there were a lot. I do know that Whirlpool Quest is part of the list.If you ever get around to it, start at Thread 11, that's the point where I -think- I have my act together.
>tfw /qst/ will never get Improvments
>>612998Great. Do Samsara Quest.
>>613706For now I'm doing first impressions because I've made a huge mistake. For now it's mostly along the lines of "as far as I need to get a good idea of the Quest." If someone suggests as many threads then I'll read up to that point.Right now I'm reading Northern Beasts while I'm at work. I'm surprised at the amount of depth it has. I'm also a sucker for monster hunting though.
>>613741Run again already exabutt
>>613783> first impressions because I've made a huge mistakeFighto Schteel, just commit to the mistake until it looks intentional! Though you're not wrong in calling it one. Seriously though, neat, now you just need a catchy name for them, preferably including at least one pun. > Northern BeastsI look forward to the first impressions then, been meaning to give that one a shot, but never actually got around to reading the archives. Unrelated lewd infantry tanks.
Do you guys remember a quest from some weeks ago, I think it was called Greenskin Quest and we were playing as an Orc Warboss called Wulfmaw Bludbanna. It was a pretty swell quest but the QM didn't continue it for some reason and it had like 2 threads.
>>610609Thegameroom is that you?
>>613801Such is the fate of all quests, to one day let everyone down by vanishing and never returning. All without a word from the QM. Those bastards.
>>613804At least some QMs do give word that they have stopped their quests.But that doesn't really change anything when they wind up never running quests again.Awoo.
Cyber Demon Quest Episode 2 begins with a car thrown through a wall. Do you like fast-paced quest combat with relatively minimal rolling? Do you like cyborg monsters that are powerful enough to punch through steel? Do you like to make really sadistic write-ins for the best ways to kill and eat your enemies? If you answered yes to any or all of those, Cyber Demon Quest is the quest for you.>>613821
>>613833Sounds fun, you're pitch is great. Might take a look at the first thread and catch up
I always wondered, who do other QMs consider to be their spirit animal?If it's not this guy then you are doing it wrong
>>613317I mean, I make the assumption most people here in the general wouldn't like it, yourself included. I'm quite used to the >Naruto shitposting by now.Regardless, we have a good time when the threads run, and it's a good writing excercise for me. Feel free to check out Shinobi at your leisure. Just don't post about fucking puppets.
>>613909But it's this thread that is for posts like that...
>written as it is read>not read in its entiretyWhat's the point? Quests that got better as they went on are, like, the majority.
>>613943Because no one wants to read 100 threads of whatever garbage you're writing, especially something that they don't find interesting.Aren't you fucking entitled?
>>613889what I don't get is since we are banished here we should ignore the horribly shit taste of others (whether about waifus or quest) in order to form some sort of comradarie.But no we must keep shitposting and calling each other faggots rather than trying to make our prison a bearable place
>>613889B-b-b-b-but MUH PUPPETS WARGLE! B-b-b-b-but if we only train in PUPPETS for 6 months WARGLE, if we only train in puppets we can be almost as good as someone who isn't a chunin yet warlge! MUH PUPPETS WARGLE!/shitposting. Man, those puppet arguments.
>>613952and you are just the most ignorant lil' shit I've ever seen.Go and write one off shits because apparently you lack any sort of talent to maintain a lengthier quest
>>613952I'm sure "entitlement" is a fun word to throw around but I'm not the one asking for these reviews that don't actually judge the medium appropriately. No one even asked the guy to review that SAO quest but he went and did it anyway, and he's done a shit job of it.
>>613982And that's the reason why the passing of reviewanon is such a shame.At least that man read the whole quest before reviewing itAnd now we are stuck with these losers trying to imitate him
Kudos to the cheeky fucker who archived the board discussion thread.>>613952People may not want to, but many QMs who write quests that go for years go through multiple changes in style and such. Critique for the purpose of the QMs improvement would likely be more productive if done through the lens of their most recent threads, rather than their first 15~. After all, lots of QMs do improve over time.
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>>613970and you are just the most entitled lil' shit i've ever seen.If they were interested, they probably would've read it already. The fact that you believe that someone needs to down all of the shit that you enjoy is ridiculous. Go ahead, shoot more ad hominem attacks at me because everybody doesn't want to suck Soma's cock with you.>>613982If he thinks it's enough to "see how it pans out" then it's fine. His disclaimer is enough for you to form an opinion on the review. The only people who give a shit are assblasted salty autists like >>613987. You know exactly what you're going to get when you read GS's shit, so don't act so surprised.>>613993Agreed.
>>614011what's wrong cunt? is "entitlement" the last word whiches meaning you figured out?start throwing insults around once you have more than two you illiterate fucknugget.And I find it hilarious that you are so desperate that you have to build a fucking strawman to try and argue against me.I don't even know who soma is or what he writes, I simply posess more than 5 functioning brain cells and capable of figuring the basic concept of "improving over time"Now crawl back to your shitposting you oxygen deprived little cancerous tumor.I want to laugh more
>>614024Ah, just like your last few posts you're just full of wind. Instead of elaborating in whatever fucktwit argument you hold so high in your ivory tower you go ahead and puff yourself up that inane garbage you continue to spit out. Strawman? It was what I thought you were arguing since you were so thoughtful enough to actually try to communicate instead of kicking and screaming. See, >>613993 has a good idea, to which I had no problems with.Unfortunately either your reading comprehension is toddler level or you're pretending to not see. But calling me desperate? No way! Laughing at poor ol' cancerous tumor me, oh no! Is it possible for you to not talk like a smug, egocentric fuckwatt for a second? But no wait! They have to read everything! Everything!
>>613684He sent me his email you prick.I'm only doing requests and I'm only sending the reviews in through PM or email.>>613694Well you have fun with it. Remember to soft ball your criticism or they'll eat you alive.>>613783>Because I've made a huge mistakeYou have.>>613889What's this about puppets?
>>613279I like the way that you're pretending writing doesn't matter at all in this
I fell asleep what part of the shitposting are we at?
>>614082>What's this about puppets?You'll never know. It's more than a few threads into the quest.
>>614103It does, but you guys are putting so much fucking EGO into this. You're acting like a bunch of wads who think that the smallest SLIGHT against your work is a damn sin. For a forum that throws insults left and rights about people's mothers, lifestyles, color of the skin and religion, THIS is the one thing that you folks can't stand? When someone writes out an essay as to why, in their own words, your Quest isn't enjoyable? That there's only one setting when it comes to your Quest? "Have fun or shut up"? If you're telling me that applies here, it applies everywhere else too, wouldn't you think? For goodness sakes, I go to fucking /co/. C fricking O, that brings up how SJWs are everywhere and takes an infectious portion of /pol/ into its threads... and I can go to:>How's Your WebComic>Work On Your ArtAnd they throw themselves to fucking criticism and say "Thanks, man, I'll work on it". You folks are fucking /lit/. Do you know how horrible that is? You're putting a barrier between yourself like Anne fucking Rice and the people who have their own feelings of your work. It's horrible and sad that anyone would take themselves that seriously. Do you make money from this shit? No? Then it's a hobby.You're not a damn Fanfiction.net/LiveJournal Fiction writing posse.Whatever, man. I didn't think I'd see so many crybabies here whining about bad reviews. I thought "we'd" take after /co/ at least, not the worst /lit/ had to offer.Shipgirl Commander XXII is up.>>614120>>614120
The plain spoilers bother me way too much.
>>614143>Whatever, man. I didn't think I'd see so many crybabies here whining about bad reviews.Eh, I think you are looking at last night's events wrong. That was mostly taking the piss out of guy that thinks too highly of himself.
>>614143Well its good to know someone is backing me.>>614157>Thinks too highly of myselfBecause I said I'm happy my players don't have waifu wars that makes me an egotistical prick?Mechanic is right. You guys are crybabies.
>>613123Review written and sent. Death to cross fit.
>>614143All of this coming from a fag whose quest barely registers on the archive is really adorable.You keep repeating the word "ego" like it instantly validates everything you say.Well if you don't like the system then you can fuck off to Akun where you belong you fragile fuckin' flower.And take your fuckbuddie GeneSmith with you the moment you have him stop sucking your cock
>>614082Hey calm down man I wasn't accusing anyone. I just wanted some clarification and want to avoid starting any sort of fights and drama while I'm here.
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