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You are Shinji Matou, eight years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have hopefully already shifted the future away from one which will feature your violent end, and have massively shifted it towards one that will have a completely different outcome in store for you, be it positive or negative.

You have met with success in your plan to save your adoptive sister, Sakura, from her constant torment at the hands of your ancestor, Zouken. You managed to completely purge Sakura's body of the crest worms infesting it, as well as deal a crucial blow to Zouken, however, it was too risky for you to pursue him, so the old worm is still lurking somewhere, waiting for the best moment to strike out against you. Currently you are explaining what happened to Rin Tohsaka, Sakura's biological sister and an annoying know-it-all.


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Last Thread: >>4382803
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"The answer to your first question is no, annoyingly. While Monica and I gave it our best effort, he escaped into his basement and likely fled the mansion through some secret exit, I think." Really, Zouken is the sort of person who has survived being the leader of a house through four Holy Grail Wars, to think that he wouldn't have made preparations should he be attacked by an overwhelming force

"The basement? Why didn't you pursue him, then?" The young girl asks another question, and it's one with an answer that should really be quite obvious. For as much as Rin likes to make out how much of a genius prodigy she is, she does seem to like asking pointless questions.

"I'm running low on energy thanks to purging Sakura's body entirely of the Crest Worms that she was infested with, Tohsaka-san. Do you understand just how much of my energy it took to do that?" You can feel Sakura's hand squeeze yours a little more tightly as you bring up how you actually saved the girl when she was in the midst of what was likely the most pain she had ever experienced as the worms slowly went out of control. "What's more, you're asking me why I didn't poke around a place literally filled with deadly flesh eating worms. I'm not trying to get myself eaten here Rin, thanks." In your annoyance with Rin, you drop the honorific and just refer to her by her given name, this clearly annoys her a little, and you enjoy causing her said annoyance, if only a little. Rin is about as frustrating for you to do deal with as you had imagined she would be. What an obstinate girl.

"So you're telling me that he's alive somewhere? Just prowling about?" Rin sounds frustrated by the revelation that Zouken survived, and Sakura seems a little shaken too. You're a little annoyed by Zouken clinging to life and surviving your attempt to kill him too, but while he certainly hasn't been defanged, he's a far smaller threat than he was before. He was losing himself even before you destroyed his heart worm, with any luck he'll just lose his mind and melt into a pile of crest worms.
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"That's right, Tohsaka-san. What's more, Zouken is a threat to the public, and to the secrecy of magecraft now too. The only way he'll be able to maintain his body is by eating innocent people. So that means that dealing with Zouken is as much your problem as it is mine, Miss Second Owner." Rin frowns at that sarcastic comment of yours. "But when I get back up to my full strength, and now that I've decided to employ Monica as a full time bodyguard for myself and Sakura, dealing with Zouken should he make his presence clear to me should be simple. I'll just do to him what I did to purge Sakura's body of the worms." Rin doesn't know the specifics of the Crest Worms, thankfully, or she would definitely be pestering you as to how you managed to accomplish something so terrifyingly difficult that even a talented spiritual surgeon like Kirei was only able to rid Sakura's body of most of the worms, and not purge her entirely of them. Of course, by the time the Fifth War finally starts, you hope to be able to be able to use your magecraft multiple times in a row to make fairly significant changes instead of it being a one and done type of magecraft until you recover enough to use it again, which normally takes at least a few hours, and it's not like you can really rely on anything or anybody to recharge yourself in a more timely manner, not unless you were hooked directly into the leylines like the grail or managed to tap directly into the Greater Grail itself.

A moment passes in silence as Rin processes what you just told her. "Wait. Are you trying to pass dealing with Zouken off on me?" There's an irritating tone of superiority in her voice, almost as if Rin believes you incapable of killing Zouken yourself.

"Not at all Tohsaka-san, because, and this acts as an answer to your third question too, if you went after Zouken you would die. You wouldn't be able to defeat Zouken in a fight. Not only that, you'd also act rashly and end up making a mistake."

"Y-y-you what?!" Rin is suddenly furious by your analysis of her character. "I'm a more talented magus than Zouken could ever hope to be!" Rin proudly declares, you have to hold back a laugh at Rin's confidence in her abilities. "I'm an Average One, you know! Does a third rate magus like yourself have any idea how rare Average Ones are?!" Now she's just being rude. Rin flinches backwards as Sakura glares at her for her outburst, obviously not expecting such a reaction from her biological sister in response to her bragging.
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Instead of just allowing the sisters to get into some sort of spat, you begin to explain the reason behind your analysis. "That's nice, Tohsaka-san. But..." You smirk at Rin. "so am I, and I still couldn't kill him. Just because you have more natural talent than somebody, it doesn't automatically mean that you'll be able to defeat them in a fight." In fact, you shouldn't ever take any sort of victory for granted in this world. You never know when a high schooler is going to pull out a hard counter to your greatest ability out of thin air, after all. "I'm not trying to say that you aren't talented as a magus, but can you really tell me that you would've been in the right frame of mind to help save Sakura if you knew what was going on?"

Rin remains silent for some time as your words give her pause. "Well... But... Don't you think it's a little arrogant that you thought you were the only one capable of saving Sakura?" At this point she's just grasping at straws. What is she even trying to prove?

"Arrogant? Tohsaka-san... I've been plotting this for eight years, from the moment I realized what my grandfather was forcing Sakura to go through, I've been working towards saving her. What have you been doing? Don't you even dare try to tell me that you were too busy because being a magus is a hard path to take!" She's stupid enough to do something like that, after all. She really botches dealing with Sakura as much as she possibly can. She's as much an obstacle as she is an ally in Heavens Feel with how she acts with Sakura. "I've been training as a magus too, you know. The only difference there is that my tutor in magecraft is a Grand-rank Clocktower magus." You stop talking for a moment as you allow Rin to let that sink in. "And I still had to take almost a decade to plan this!" Really, how dare she call you arrogant? The arrogant one here is the twin-tailed girl acting like a child because she wasn't allowed in on your mission to save her sister. Truth is she probably would've managed to find a way to ruin everything anyway.

"But... Matou-kun. The only reason that Sakura was even given to your family is because you were a failure of a magus, born without magic circuits. So why don't you explain how it is that you're capable of magecraft now? To be talented enough for a Grand to want to tutor you, of course, that's on the assumption that you aren't just lying through your teeth." Once again, Rin takes some sort of platform of superiority over you, you're starting to feel like revealing just how talented you are compared to Rin. Her tone is laced with sarcasm and you kind of feel like slapping her.
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"Enough! Onii-chan wouldn't lie about something like that!" Sakura has clearly had enough of Rin's consistent hostility towards you. "Onii-chan really did save me, Nee-san! So stop acting like this towards him!" Rin is taken aback by Sakura's sudden anger. She's been patiently remaining silent for this entire conversation, but it seems she's finally had enough of her sister's constant taunting of her savior.

You take the opportunity of Rin being stunned into silence to begin speaking. "I'm not entirely sure myself, actually. One day I just seemed to develop magic circuits." You fetch the shard of the meteorite out of your pocket. "My teacher gave this to me. It's a mystic code that seals off all magical energy by relentlessly consuming it, it's how I've been able to get away with practicing magecraft for all these years. You can doubt me all you want, Tohsaka-san, but for these past eight years I've had to live a life of constant secrecy." Things would be easier if Rin wasn't so arrogant and proud. While you probably could've included her in your plans, it just wasn't worth the effort. "Besides, maybe if you weren't always so cold to me whenever I tried to approach you, maybe I would've seen fit to include you in what I had planned!" You can't hold back from shouting at the girl any longer, she's really started to get on your nerves now.

An uncomfortable silence settles over the room. Rin tries to think of some sort of response to what you just told her, but she really can't. It's pretty clear that she's said her part, and you are the one with the power to decide where things go from here.

>Take Sakura and leave Rin to her own devices. If she wants to apologize to you later on that's up to her.
>Try to make peace with Rin and apologize to her, no matter how much it might hurt your pride to do so.
>Gloat about how much more talent you have than Rin, reveal the truth of your magic circuits to her.
>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
>Write-in...
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>>4396195
>>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
>>Write-in...
Invite Shirou and Touko over, introduce everyone to everyone else. Throw a party.

Let's try and give Rin some slack for Sakura's sake. We'll be the bigger man.
Also, now that this is done, PARTY TIME.
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>>4396195
>>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
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>>4396195
>Take Sakura and leave Rin to her own devices. If she wants to apologize to you later on that's up to her.
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>>4396195
Call her a low rate magus and person. Take Sakura and Monica to Touko.
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>>4396195
>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
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>>4396214
Also before you leave take Sakura to another room and let Rin know just what crest worms are.
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>>4396195
Apologise for losing composure, and force self to resist impulses for a bit. Shinji can shine through once and if we get better rapport with Rin. As friends we’ll be able to get away with it in trivial affairs, but this is too important.
Thank Rin for looking over Sakura when we thrust her into the affair, and thank Monica and Gray for coming along.
And brainstorm about next steps. Consider inviting Shishou.

Mention Einzbern. If Giselle wasn’t looking from the sidelines she was not doing her job.

Discuss funding and habitation arrangements.
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>>4396195
Man, Rin is just the worst. Can we, like, make this our last conversation with her for a few years?
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>>4396195
>>Take Sakura and leave Rin to her own devices. If she wants to apologize to you later on that's up to her.
Maybe throw out a parting insult or 2, idk
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>>4396233
See
>>4396214
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>>4396195
>>4396203
Supporting
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>>4396195
>Tell Rin you are going to show her a magic trick because it will explain things better and ask her to give you that Azoth Sword of hers and apply Truth to it to give it its True form of Jeweled Sword
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>>4396195
>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
Also apologize for losing our composure. Our inner Shinji is really coming out
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Much as in character it is to create anime drama, please consider Sakura’s smile and the circumstance of our magical coming out. Even if you wish (as I do) for Sakura as sister and Rin only a friend, getting her on our side would benefit us immensely now that rest of contenders are going to be recalculating with us as new variable.
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>>4396248
(This is not a new vote btw, just phone posting)
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>>4396195
>Take Sakura and leave Rin to her own devices. If she wants to apologize to you later on that's up to her.
What is there even to apologize for.
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>>4396248
I don't want Rin as a friend or anything else. She's unpleasant, unreliable, jealous and resentful. Let's just leave her already.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/20742588
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>>4396195
The best option is obviously >>4396203. There is literally no reason to act coldly to Rin when she still holds some sway in the story (future master, Sakura's sister, a contact to Kirei). Just be the bigger people and try to make amends with Rin instead of fucking over our relationship with her for no reason.
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>>4396263
Right now she’s just pissed at herself that she wasn’t there for her sister. She’ll get over it.
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>>4396269
yeah like, she gets irrational when Sakura is involved and she's like 15 right now, a lot of things are running through her head and she isn't thinking straight
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>>4396269
>>4396273
Do remember that this is how rin acts all the time even when she's calm.
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>>4396265
>select all that apply
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>>4396266
OK ip abuser
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>>4396305
Actually, that’s me. And I don’t abuse my phone IP, else I’d have like 4 more votes in.
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>>4396203
>>4396195
Support, party time is a go.
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>>4396305
Seething
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Rin is obviously just mad she didn’t help her sister and isn’t thinking straight we don’t want to antagonize her nothing good will come from it. Social retards
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Guess I should have added a harem option. Can't believe there are so many sister fags
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>>4396195
>>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
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>>4396315
Note the choice says 'attempt'.
Rin doesn't back down from arguments like these, she flat out refuses to engage in them to keep her mask of a cold magus up.
She has to be hit over the head with proof of her error or she'll just assume she's right relying on magus common sense.
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>>4396315
Like the other guy said, this is how Rin behaves all the time. The "she isn't thinking straight" excuse only works if this is in some way unusual for her, which it absolutely isn't.
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>>4396326
Proof: happy Sakura. Case closed.
Also I think we should give Sakura choice whether she wants to stay with Rin or us. She’ll obviously choose us, but Rin will not really be in position to oppose her. Even though taking advantage of her defended home would be convenient.
(this is not a vote, just an opinion)
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>>4396305
>multiple sensible voters in the thread, including one ip-abuser
>"they must all be the same guy!"
OK retard
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>>4396329
It is a valid excuse under given circumstances though. There’s no need to abandon a moral high ground for no benefit.
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In the interest of transparency, these are all me. Sorry about the mess, currently in countryside.

>>4396227
>>4396248
>>4396252
>>4396269
>>4396289
>>4396310
>>4396337
>>4396341
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>>4396345
Jesus
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>Rin being Rin
Shinji here has at very least two times her mental age and life experience.
Generally you dont get all pissy and start barking with toddlers if you have any amount of senses.
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>>4396195
>>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
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>>4396353
I think Shinji at the beginning had the mental age of a 30 year old? its been a decade now and Rin is like 15 and Sakura is a weak point for her
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>>4396361
I don't think we know our exact age, but I'm pretty sure MC said he was older than Monica at the start of the quest.
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>>4396368
Think he said salary man so that's usually mid 20s to 30s
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>>4396337
Sakura being happy isn't proof of anything Shinji has said besides them having a strong relationship.
Rin just doesn't like not being right.
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>>4396368
>>4396372
yeah we're not exactly looking good if we try to antagonize a child that just wants her sister, yk, the orphaned child who's only parental figure is a psychotic priest
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>>4396379
We don't have to antagonize her, but we also don't have to put up with her shit. I just want to leave.
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>>4396388
I'd say a parting comment to shut her up and take Sakura and Monica elsewhere
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>>4396195
>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
Also.
>Throwing a party
>Out of the blue
>This late
>At somebody else's house
Come one partybros calm down a bit would yah. It's been a long and stressful day, nobody's got the energy for that shit.
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>>4396402
don't we have a gaping wound on our shoulder too?
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>>4396404
It's healed
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>>4396404
I mean, truth healing will take care of that soon enough if it hasn't already.
But what about Sakura, who is probably exhausted right now, or the fact we really shouldn't make a big deal about being seen with Shirou now that we have a known, and possibly unknown, Einzbern spy on our hands watching our back?
I wouldn't mind going to Touko's place to have a personal little master/student sit down with her as thanks for enabling us to do what we've done. But other than that, throwing a full on party would be retarded.
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>>4396415
Yeah I voted to take her and Monica to Toukos
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>>4396195
>Take Sakura and leave Rin to her own devices. If she wants to apologize to you later on that's up to her.
I forgot how Rin was. Reminds me of my own family: insufferable. She's going in the bin for sure. Saber Alter is still best girl.
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So, what do you guys think is the best place for Sakura? Here in the Tohsaka place with its bounded fields, or somewhere in the Einzbern Mansion.
I left out Touko's place because she'd either ask for something in return or flatout refuse...I think.
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>>4396423
I'd say we just buy a new place. We have to probably eventually house 5 people not including possible servants.
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>>4396396
Gray is with us, too.
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>>4396424
Housing a place is definitely something we should do, but not right now when we don't have any protections against Zouken besides Monica of course.
Maybe it can be done while we're staying elsewhere though, but we still need a place to stay until then.
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>>4396427
Well her too then
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>>4396423
At Clocktower with Waver.
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>>4396423
We should ask Sakura who she'd want to stay with short term and long term. She's a free woman now. It really should be her choice of what she wants to do next.
Regardless of where she decides to stay though, I have every intention of being apart of her life. The girl is gonna need help adjusting and Shinji continues to be the best person to help her do so. Gotta fulfill those big brother obligations and such.
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>>4396432
Well we need to see Touko anyway.
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>>4396436
Big brother in more ways than one
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>>4396423
We're not fucking taking Sakura the Einzbern Manor "oh hey Acht, mind looking after my little sister, she's got pieces of the lesser grail inside her btw"
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>>4396443
I meant the manor within Fuyuki. Not all the way in Germany.
I think the manor in Japan still has protections up?
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>>4396436
As it currently stands she's going to choose staying with us no matter what. She's clearly too reliant on us at the moment. The question is whether we're fine with that or not. I don't really care either way, but I'm sure the other posters have stronger opinions on the matter.
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>>4396448
either way, even if she hates us, Rin's place is far and away the best place, bounded fields are fantastic there and Rin will do anything and everything to protect Sakura
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>>4396423
Fuyuki Einzbern mansion sounds good to me. Alternative would be buying a new house for ourself and having Monica move in as a guard and set up bounded fields for us.
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>>4396457
Einzbern forest has the best protection capabilities if we can use the bounded fields.
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>>4396455
The only way to make her less reliant is to take an active role in making her less emotionally dependent. We can do that no matter where she is, given we have easy access to her.
The issue being talked about now is where she'd be the safest, but I honestly think anywhere but the Einzbern Manor would work fine. Allowing her to stay with Rin might also cause some problems, thanks to the possibility of the Einzbern seeing us dealing with the second owner more than is strictly necessary and getting even MORE suspicious than they will be.
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I'm all for, bringing Sakura over to the Einzbern mansion if we can indeed use its protections.
It could be a good place to stay until we have our own place to stay.
It has an issue in the name of Illya, but we can manage in that front, and she's not even here yet so it might not even ever come to play if we find a better place with more time.
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>>4396469
That's why Touko then buy a new place. We have 100s of millions to spend
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For some reason, people seem against the idea of simply buying a new place to live, if not using one of the several apartments we already have.
Why rely on other factions when you are perfectly capable of doing for yourselves?
We could get our own place. We can set up our own defenses.
I don't understand why people would put Sakura anywhere near the Einzberns or their shit, especially with her status as a better lesser grail. It might be paranoid to think that the Einzbern would always be monitoring their Manor, but why wouldn't they and why would you want to risk it when again, we have way better options.
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>>4396497
Well, I'm not opposed to getting our own place. As long as we can create an adequate defense against Zouken trying to swooce in.
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>>4396497
That place is empty except for Giselle, and we can improve our relationship with her to the point she'll look the other way about stuff like that.
She's also another skilled combatant in the event the castle gets attacked.
Shinji isn't even skilled in bounded fields yet even though we're trying to develop our reality marble so any defense we'd setup would be subpar, Sakura might be better at it than us.
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>>4396423
Can't we just ask Gray to hang out with us a little longer and dungeon-crawl the Matou manor room by room?
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>>4396504
>That place is empty except for Giselle
One of the reasons the average mage doesn't use modern technology is because they've long had magical alternatives, of the things I can't see mages managing to replicate security cameras and microphones aren't one of them.
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Hey Whatis, you going to do the affection thing?
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>>4396501
We could probably get Touko to set up defenses for us if we pay her.
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>>4396548
I'm working on them.
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>>4396552
Between Touko and Monica, I'm sure the two of them can come up with something to keep the bedbugs away.
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Sakura: She's probably got the most affection points out of everyone. But I don't really know just how to respond to her feelings. With any luck, she'll never bring them up to me. It's not like I dislike her or wouldn't be happy with her, but the whole sibling thing is just a little odd to turn into a truly romantic relationship.
Theorized Affection Score: 99/100

Monica: She seems to like me quite a bit, but I'm kind of hoping that she only sees me as some sort of surrogate younger sibling. The implications of her feelings towards me being romantic are kind of frightening.
Theorized Affection Score: 70/100

Rin: It's a pretty clear cut case of mutual dislike. While I did like Rin from the Visual Novel, when I am actually interacting with her as a person, she's really quite insufferable.
Theorized Affection Score: 15/100

Touko: Shishou is... hard to read. Even for somebody like myself, I think that she likes me at least. Well, she has been training me for this long, so I can't see her disliking me else she would've just stopped training me.
Theorized Affection Score: ??/100

Illya: Illya... She's a hard read too. While I definitely left a good impression on the girl, that doesn't mean she won't just call for my execution with her servant... Who could end up being absolutely anyone, now that the Einzbern are unlikely to summon Heracles again.
Theorized Affection Score: 65/100

Aoko: I've only met her once but she seemed to like me. Not really much for me to say here.
Theorized Affection Score 51/100

Akiha: I'm pretty sure she would still try to murder me if I met her again. Not exactly looking forward to that.
Theorized Affection Score 0/100

Luvia: She probably considers me as something of a rival, as well as her superior in martial arts. With any luck, she'll have taken some of the lessons I gave her to heart.
Theorized Affection Score: 45/100

Altrouge: I really don't want to meet her again. Whatever she has planned for me, I don't really want to find out.
Theorized Affection Score: 71/100

Giselle: Giselle doesn't often show what little emotions she has, but she does seem to be at least somewhat fond of me.
Theorized Affection Score: 58/100

Gray: Gray is impossibly hard to read, but she does seem to like me quite a bit. She just has difficulty speaking up.
Theorized Affection Score: 70/100

Sacchin: Sacchin is probably one of the people I have the best relationship with, interacting with the girl helps bring at least some calm to this life of mine, even if she is a one in a hundred million psychic with the ability to immediately become a Dead Apostle if she is infected as well as having excellent potential as a magus. She keeps jokingly referring to me as her boyfriend, and I don't have the heart to tell her to stop.
Theorized Affection Score: 82/100
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Shirou: Good old Shirou. Easily my best friend, and for good reason too. He's just such a nice guy.
Theorized Affection Score: Irrelevant.

Waver: Waver seems to consider me a strange sort of friend. He'll try to help out when he can, but I think I might be causing him to be even more stressed out than usual.
Theorized Affection Score: 64/100

That brings us to the end of
Shinji's Affection Analysis:
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>>4396195
>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
>Write in: Invite Shirou over to hang while we have Monica and Gray go Search the mansion to either see Zouken is there if so eliminate him or try to find a trail of Zouken escape
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>>4396195
>Attempt to calm Rin down. Tell her that no matter how it was brought about, this was likely the best outcome possible.
Stop being such a shit, Rin!
>>4396608
>Akiha 0/100
Oof.
>>4396614
>Shirou is the main character of the VN so he doesn't get a score
Lol
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>>4396614
Shirou's affection score is Shirou/100.
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>>4396614
I like it.
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>>4396563
Love you Bae
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So the only one we may have feelings for is Sakura. I thought we also had a thing for Monica
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>>4396642
Also Sacchin
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>>4396647
I don't think we've interacted with any of them enough to properly fall for them
Whereas we've had Sakura by our side for eight years.
Damn it!
She's playing the long game!
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>>4396650
Yeah I mean I want Sakura but I just thought we had something with Monica
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>>4396656
I'm sure we'll get the chance to fall for our Misato now she's been given the role of Misato.
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>>4396195
>>Try to make peace with Rin and apologize to her, no matter how much it might hurt your pride to do so
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>>4396608
>>4396614
>With any luck, she'll never bring them up to me.
Yikes. You can't fix a problem if you don't address the issue baka Shinji!

>Illya
>Theorized Affection Score: 65/100
Not as high as I'd like, and given the circumstances, bound to take some hits soon. Need to find a way to fix this asap.

>Giselle
>Theorized Affection Score: 58/100
This is quite worrying, given her position as a spy or decoy. Need to work on getting that up too.

>Monica
>Theorized Affection Score: 70/100
Not surprising.

>Grey
>Theorized Affection Score: 70/100
...very surprising. But then again, we did organize the party to save her sooo.

>Sacchin is probably one of the people I have the best relationship with
Man, that's nice, good for Sacchin! Can't wait to actually see any of that relationship!

>He'll try to help out when he can, but I think I might be causing him to be even more stressed out than usual.
Yeah, I've actually noticed that too. We kinda only hang out with Waver when we're also forcing him to do shit for us. We should chill with him more often, maybe offer to help him out with something he needs instead of the other way around.
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>>4396677
Yeah we need Sakura to confess
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Monica is a bad choice because her womb will be barren sooner than the others
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>>4396195
>Try to make peace with Rin and apologize to her, no matter how much it might hurt your pride to do so.
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>>4396623
Changing to
>>Try to make peace with Rin and apologize to her, no matter how much it might hurt your pride to so
>Write in: Invite Shirou over to hang while we have Monica and Gray go Search the mansion to either see Zouken is there if so eliminate him or try to find a trail of Zouken escape
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>>4396718
Solution to this problem is a harem.
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>>4396677
>Need to find a way to fix this asap.
For sure. As soon as we can wrap up the fallout of saving Sakura we need to be brainstorming how to build our relationship with Illya.
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>>4396732
+1 the last thing we want is Illya doing something stupid during the grail war.
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>>4396729
Yep, I want kids after the GW
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>>4396608
>She keeps jokingly referring to me as her boyfriend, and I don't have the heart to tell her to stop.
Chekhov's gun moment.
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>>4396718
Our genes suck dude we'd be better off adopting.
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>>4396744
They did suck but not anymore.
We're prime super magus breeding stock now.
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>>4396758
Oh sure I meant more ending the biological Matou line out of spite.
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>>4396765
It's not like that would be any kind of revenge against Zouken. He only saw his descendants as tools who existed just for the sake of his dream. The better way to get back at Zouken would be to raise a family, be a proper father, and achieve the kind of domestic happiness he always denied his descendants.
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>>4396765
That’s really dumb and gay
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A reminder:
This is only what Shinji thinks their affection point totals look like, which he has arbitrarily placed on a scale of 0-100.

>>4396765
But biologically you are a Matou, so spiting a man you intend to kill is kind of silly
So is Sakura thanks to the magical treatments forced upon her.
She'd look a little something like this if she never had that happen to her.
I'm not really following the logic behind ending your own bloodline here.
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>>4396911
That image hurts me
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>>4396608
So basically we're at the point with Sakura where we can go full romance with her if we want, probably gonna have to decide soon
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>>4396911
>Black Hair Sakura
Superior in every way.
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>>4396911
>This is only what Shinji thinks their affection point totals look like, which he has arbitrarily placed on a scale of 0-100.
Thank you for this. I'm looking forward to amusing consequences of misunderstandings (and hope we'll be able to avoid lethal ones)
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>>4396911
Cursed image.
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>>4396911
That image reminds me, we could probably turn her hair and eye color back to normal. We should do that.
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>>4396911
Thats just one guy, I think youre safe ignoring him.

Antinatalists can eat shit anyway.
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>>4396936
Oh?
This image contains approximately six billion more curses.
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>>4396945
Yeah but its hot.
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>>4396945
Featured in Shinji's nightmares every night after Sakura's smile failed to be protected.

so, never
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>>4396945
Lowkey- Kinda want to see her rape Shinji while it screams out her possessive affection and desire for kids.
Probably isn't going to happen, but tickets for trains.
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>>4396974
L-l-lewd...
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>>4396974
Its not rape if you want it. Its not rape if you want children as much as she does. Its not rape if you echo her sentiments back at her truthfully.
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>>4396974
i've thought that this might happen ngl
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>>4396974
Is this going to happen if we date a girl that isn't Sakura?
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>>4396980
>>4396981
>>4396983
Just wait until she starts seeking advice from Monica on how to get a certain man's attention.
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>>4397001
Depends if Monica is a groomer or not, but if getting dominated by lolis and the undead is your thing then i can't see why not.
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>>4397004
I don't think Monica is gonna tell her to force herself on us or do it in our sleep
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>>4396911
FUCK ZOUKEN AND FUCK TOIKIOME
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>>4397042
BASED AND REDPILLED
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Behold.
The most cursed Sakura image.
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>>4397067
Nah. Black hair Sakura is way worse.
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>>4397067
Black haired sakura is a reminder of things that cannot be. It is far worse. It is the manifestation of lost time and despair.
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>>4397009
Ah no, I was wondering if Sakura would rape us if we don't choose her.
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>>4397123
Not with the worms gone. She might make a move though.
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>>4397151
Here's hoping.
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thinking about it, couldn't we have killed Zouken super early if we properly befriended Aoko? She's actually a moral person compared to Touko and she's good at breaking things
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>>4397222
Making deal with Altrouge was also an option.
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>>4397457
If we get a favor from Altrouge, we need to use it for pic related.
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>>4397457
yeah but worst thing we needed to do for Aoko was like, sleep with her or something, worst thing to do with Altrouge is be her slave forever
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>>4397470
thats not too bad.
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>>4397470
>>4397477
We ain't joining her faction unless she puts on the sexy maid outfit.
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>>4397596
Like we'll have a choice. Also can't wait to get servants. I wonder how many we can sustain.
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>>4397753
Less then Shirou.
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"Tohsaka-san... Look. I know we might've gotten off on the wrong foot, but we both care about Sakura, right?" Rin hesitates for a moment. "I did what I had to do to ensure Sakura would be saved. I couldn't include you in helping Sakura because you wouldn't give me the chance to, and if I just told you, I had no guarantee that you wouldn't just make your own plan to save Sakura." Well, 'plan', you know that Rin is dumb enough to just run directly at Zouken and get herself killed from overconfidence and her own rage. "That's why I couldn't tell you, I wish for us to be able to have a better relationship, Tohsaka-san. For Sakura's sake, more than anything else. You're still her sister, after all, and you always will be." You try your best to use calming words on Rin. Mostly appealing to the irritating girl by using the love she still holds for her sister to your advantage. "Besides, this was about the best outcome that could've come from this, even if Zouken yet lives, we've dealt him a heavy blow, and soon enough we'll be able to finish the old worm off once and for all, I think. Let's make a promise, Tohsaka-san. A promise that we'll work together for Sakura's sake." You hold the hand that isn't being tightly clutched by Sakura out to Rin. With any luck, your words have reached her.

Rin is quiet for a moment before her expression softens a little. "I'm still not happy that you planned all this without me, but if you promise to keep me in the loop if you find anything about where Zouken is, or are planning a move against him, I'll do the same for you." Rin takes your hand with some hesitation. "Don't get the wrong idea though, I'm only promising this for Sakura's sake!" How very predictable. At least she's not being so outwardly hostile to you anymore, you seem to have finally managed to appeal to Rin's better nature that usually can only be reached through impressive dedication to high jumps.

"Thank you, Tohsaka-san." It's hardly a proper alliance, and is more a defensive pact in regards to specifically dealing with Zouken, but it's about the best you can do for now. "I'm sure that the two of us working together will be able to put an end to Zouken... I got a little heated back there, It's just... I've had to deal with the idea that one day Zouken will uncover my deception for so long, and I was the only one who had the knowledge that Sakura needed to be helped." Sakura draws nearer to you, almost pressing up against your side as you reveal that. "You might feel terrible about Sakura now, but how do you think it felt for me? To have the knowledge that the girl you've grown to see as a sister is suffering every single day? We both care about Sakura, Tohsaka-san." Seriously, you might see the world itself as a story, but your interactions with Sakura have felt all too real, and it's hard to just write-off her suffering as false when you've been brought face to face with it for nearly a decade.
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Rin pinches the bridge of her nose and looks down. "Look. You don't have to rub it in, alright? I'm sorry that I couldn't help Sakura and I'm... sorry that you had to go through that." Rin looks up at the two of you. "But that's going to change. From now on, there's nothing stopping me from taking Sakura back. It's not like the two of you can go back to living in your old home with Zouken still prowling about, right?" Rin starts to get carried away with herself. "As... thanks to you, I'll even let you stay here with Sakura too, Matou-kun." Rin turns to Sakura, obviously intending for the next question to be answered by Sakura "So how about it? You can finally be Sakura Tohsaka again, there's no reason to hold onto the name of the family that abused you." Looks like Rin really does intend to use this as an opportunity to claim Sakura as her own sister, as well as have her stay in her mansion, at least she was generous enough to extend the offer to you.

>Speak up. "Actually, Rin. Sakura will remain a Matou, and she'll live with me."(Write-in living arrangements)
>Speak up. "Actually, Rin, I've decided that I'll take a new name, and as she's my sister, we'll both take the name Makiri. (Write-in living arrangements.)
>Speak up. "That sounds like a wonderful idea, Tohsaka-san. Truth is, I was kind of worried about where Sakura and I would live that would be safe enough."
>Let Sakura answer Rin.
>Write-in...
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>>4397815
>>Let Sakura answer Rin.
Honestly, we were doing it for her. Whatever she picks is fine.
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>>4397815
>Let Sakura answer Rin.
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>>4397815
>Let Sakura answer Rin
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On an unrelated note, Arturia has finally become the most busted servant in all of Grand Order, apparently.
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>>4397821
Is this real? My god what an abomination.
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>>4397815
>(Write-in) Let Sakura answer Rin. Still inform them that we are changing our name to Makiri.
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>>4397815
>Let Sakura answer Rin.
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>>4397828
Yeah it's real.
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>>4397834
If I played fgo I would be angry that it isn't proto Merlin.
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>>4397821
>>4397834
It's fine, she's not busted at all. She's a totally fair and balanced servant that doesn't hilariously overshadow Merlin, Waver and Skadi.
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>>4397815
New name Makiri and buy a large estate to hold all your harem eh I mean entourage and possible servants.
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>>4397815
>Let Sakura answer Rin.
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>>4397844
Add to this that it's up to Sakura but that this is what Shinji is thinking
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>>4397815
> Speak up. "That sounds like a wonderful idea, Tohsaka-san. Truth is, I was kind of worried about where Sakura and I would live that would be safe enough."
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>>4397815
>>4397830
Support this.
>>4397840
What the fuck?
She's cute as fuck but seriously what the fuck? She's broken.
Let's use Truth to class change Saber to Caster.
We could probably also ask Touko to upgrade our Servants if we pay her. She's probably capable of that like she is in Extra.
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I want to summon Tamamo.
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>>4397867
I wouldn't mind Shirou getting a non-standard Artoria, honestly.
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>>4397881
Since we extracted Avalon from him there's no guarantee he will get Saber. I would presume that him getting himself would have a much higher chance after this entire ordeal.
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>>4397815
Supporting >>4397830
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>>4397881
Let's get Gray and make her give Rhonglebongo to Saber so Saber will get big tits.
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>>4397885
Would be funny if we got her somehow
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>>4397815
>(Write-in) Let Sakura answer Rin. Still inform them that we are changing our name to Makiri.
We're not moving in with her no matter what Sakura decides though.
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>>4397885
We gave it back
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>>4397889
Yeah so we get our own place
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>>4397890
Oh I forgot. There's still a chance for an effect from that though.
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>>4397893
I hope not
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>>4397815
>>Let Sakura answer Rin.
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>>4397889
>let Sakura answer
>but overrule her if she gives the answer you don't like
As scummy as the real Shinji.
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>>4397815
>>4397830
This.
We're the man of the manor now!
Can't wait for all the paperwork!
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>>4397815
>>4397830
Support.
Kinda tempted to take up on the offer on the condition we're allowed to pay out of pocket for 'a few small expansions', but moving in would mean we'd eventually have to deal with Kirei sooner or later.
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Rin night just learn to love us because of our big makiri wallet
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>>4397908
We should just toss her like 2 million just to see what she does.
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>>4397901
You misunderstood my vote. Sakura can live where she wants and use the name she wants, but Shinji's not moving in with Rin no matter what.
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>>4397830
Support.
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>>4397912
Flexing on Rin with money should theoretically make her far more affable.
Bitch is desperate for cash.
>>4397914
Why do you hate Rin so much?
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>>4397947
She could buy a lot of gems with 2 million.
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>>4397947
Her personality.
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>>4397953
Nice non-answer, clown.
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>>4397960
You want a fucking itemized list of every irritating thing she does in the franchise? I don't like her personality. The shit she says and does. Never have, never will. That's a pretty clear answer.
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>>4397968
I love rin she would make a great concubine to me and my wife saber <3
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>Moving in with Rin
>The person we were talking so much shit to the Einzberns about just a day or two ago
>Expecting them not to find out
>Expecting that not to be added to ever growing list of very damnable actions we've taken this night in regards to that allience
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>>4397968
I want you to stop being a massive autistic faggot with shit taste, but I may as well ask the sun to stop shining, especially when it's you, "anon".
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>>4397979
Yeah not sure why no one likes my idea
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>>4397979
Do we even need that "alliance" anymore?
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>>4397991
You want berserker to kills us?
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>>4397982
Rin is shit, deal with it.
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>>4397982
I want you to stop screeching just because somebody doesn't like your waifu. The fuck is your deal?
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>>4397885
>Shirou summoning Archer
>synchronized UBW aria chanting
>double UBW
>double Seigi no Mikata
>double sword autism
>double kitchen duty
>double everything
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>>4397992
We don't even know if they're summoning a berserker this time. Even if they do I'm sure we can handle it.
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>>4397992
>implying Berserker can do shit to our overpowered Saber + non gimped Magus Shirou + Avalon + Rhongomyniad killing machine
She'll crush him.
>>4397991
Not at all, lets totally betray them.
Fuck the Einzbern.
Illya included.
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>>4397815
>>4397889
changing to this
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>>4398002
>Even if they do I'm sure we can handle it.
Don't make me start pulling out the fucking Darkest Dungeon quotes.
Overconfidence aside, reminder that we never really expected the Einzbern to help with Zouken in the first place. We were there to get on their good side for saving Illya first and foremost. Then to a lesser extent, freeing all the Homunculus slaves.

>>4398009
>Fuck the Einzbern. Illya included.
You don't have to waifu her Anon, but that girl is getting saved.
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>>4397997
>The fuck is your deal?
You.
I smelled a faggot.
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>>4397815
>Speak up. "That sounds like a wonderful idea, Tohsaka-san. Truth is, I was kind of worried about where Sakura and I would live that would be safe enough."
>"As new Man of the House starting tomorrow I am going to oversee finances and double check previous years taxes. I expect full cooperation on the issue. As a sign of our friendship I will gift Sakura rights for one of my mining company."
>>4397912
Well. This is canon.
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>>4397979
>She was closest and most easily available sanctuary I could leverage as I adapted to circumstances, and most secure place I could conceive for my sister to live in. Furthermore, going to her rather than imposing on your hospitality will keep Zouken unaware of our dealings and keep him away from your interest in the area.


>>4397908
This is a dynamic I'm looking forward to seeing.
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>>4398047
Look.
I'm not saying it would be hard to figure out excuses for the 40+ super suspicious things we've done almost a single day after our alliance was made, but the fact that there are 40+ super suspicious things that we've done almost a single day after our alliance was made is, well, super suspicious. After a point, they would be better off cutting their losses and breaking things off with us, even if they can't outright kill us now that we're the Lord of our family.
It's already been shown that we haven't been honest with them and that we are fully capable of doing far more than we let on when first dealing with them. The question has to be asked, because you know Acht will, why would we even want to ally with the Einzberns given our circumstances? And if the only answer we can come up with is sentimental bs then our plans with Illya are fucked. We'd be better off if we hadn't gone there at all.
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>>4398068
desu we can probably mitigate the damages here by not revealing the true nature of the crest worms and giving all of the credit for what we did to Zouken to Monica and Gray. It's still important to keep the alliance to be able to manage Illya, we just don't need to fuck everything up by moving in with Rin (which in itself is an act of pure sentimentality).
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>>4398068
We'd be better off if we'd had some patience and held on to our plans until the war.
Water under the bridge now though. I'm assuming our alliance is basically shot at this point for the next 2 years. I just hope we can patch things up individually with Illya during the war.
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>>4398068

Well, if you go with reasoning that alliance with Einzbern is justified by desire to kill Zouken then that still stands on account of him being, well, still alive.

We revealed that we have some ability and connections of our own (although we've insinuated as much during our encounter when Illya was offering to support a Servant for us) but they were clearly not enough to finish the job properly.
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>>4398080
That's essentially what I'm getting at, although at this point we should probably reveal we do have magic circuits, and say we were keeping that info as close to the chest as possible because of Zouken.

>>4398081
Being forced to fuck Sakura was always the line most here wouldn't cross. Would it have been easier to just grit our teeth and bare it? Sure, but sometimes the things worth doing aren't the easiest.
We can still save Illya and make our other plans work, we just need to keep our shit tight and think before we act instead of assuming the worst of it is over now that Zouken is out of the way.
Shit is only getting started.
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>>4398090
Valid.
Hell, even if the old worm was actually dead, we could always just lie and say he was still out there.
Potentially plotting to ruin our plans, a boogeyman to keep us in the Einzberns good graces.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YmRMuRCE9M
good morning rin, good morning sakura. Im happy to be here with you today :)
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Who does everyone want to romance?
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>Three big Fate quests
>Anons always insist on sucking it up to Einzberns
Why? Our goals are always were in contradiction.
We got good intel from the trip, made a good impression on Illya and sowed some concern in her about Acht and Einzberns in general and potentially prevented Herc from being in war.
Its all a soild win.
We have no need to antagonize Acht but fully dancing to his tune will only hinder us in our main goal. The moment we will get into some argument with Illya if we lets say run into Shirou during the first night you might as well write off whole "allience" thing completely. Same if we just bring up issue of Corrupted Grail and pointless war for it.
We can still save Illya but there is certainly better way than to just sit on our ass pretending to do nothing before it and trust the plan. If we can get an advantage we should pursue it.
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>>4398104
Initially I was a taiga bro but we decided collectively that she was for waver so Im on the Illya train. I want Sakura to have her own happiness that doesn't revolve her savior. In my eyes, we were just doing what any good brother would have done.
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>>4398104
Manaka.
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>>4398108
You want multiple or just Illya. I'm looking to see how Manaka turns out.
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>>4398104
Sacchin or Monica.
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>>4398112
I want just illya. A harem wont end well as long as rin is in it.
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>>4398117
We'll leave Rin out of it
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>>4398104
I have no strong preference yet. Also I'm wondering what summons will be roaming the place.
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>>4398120
I don't like harems in general anyway. Sakura deserves a life outside of fucking her brother and Illya deserves a life outside of obsessing over shirou and then dying at 22
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>>4398122
I really want to see who the broken vial is
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>>4398104
I like Sakura and Ilya.
I like Saber more, but I'd rather she get with Shirou. Kinda glad Sakura doesn't like him anymore to get in the way.
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>>4398124
What could be in a vial... poison, or perfume? Maybe medicine. Or maybe it's who crafted it?
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>>4398104
Shinji-Saber (using Shiro-Rin to get rid of Shiro probably) but that's enough of a longshot to never win.
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>>4398127
saber shirou is a match made in avalon and is the purest romance in history
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>>4397815
>Let Sakura answer Rin.
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>>4397830
>>4398145
>>4397815
Switching to this, at least cause it'll tell Sakura and Rin that we want nothing to do with our shitty Matou past at all which is a good nice step
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>>4397821
In FGO, support servants REALLY make a lot of servants, after Skadi was introduced for example, she retroactively made Edmond Dantes one of the best farming servants in the game. Caster Artoria is basically the same, she retroactively made a lot of other servants better
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We'll be heading towards another and probably the final timeskip soon, so I'm just going to ask.
Would you prefer to get involved in Case Files or go straight to the Grail War?
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>>4398205
grail war
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>>4398205
Case Files
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>>4398205
Case Files
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>>4398205
Case Files.
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>>4398205
Grail War.
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>>4398205
Case Files, let's raise that Waver score.
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>>4398205
Dark horse - we need to get involved in Tsukihime. Getting one of the Tsukihime glass canons to help us is probably one of the only ways we can beat Altrouge when she comes for us after the GW.

Also it would be a waste to open up that plot but not close it.
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>>4398222
Pretty sure QM is having Tsukihime occur after because of power scaling.
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>>4398205
Case Files.
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>>4398224
Oh. If that's the case we need to run there the moment the fifth grail war ends.

>>4398205
Case files.
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>>4398205
grail war
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>>4397815
>(Write-in) Let Sakura answer Rin. Still inform them that we are changing our name to Makiri.
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>>4398205
Straight to GW
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>>4398104
I said it before and I'll say it again.
As long as it isn't Sakura, Rin, or Saber, it doesn't really matter to me.
Right now I want to see more from Sacchin and Illya is always a fan favorite, but my real top priorty besides given girls that don't have routes a chance is to make sure everyone is happy.
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>>4398205
Grail War.
I wouldn't mind helping Waver out if he needs our help, but I don't want to play through it honestly.
We've been in this prologue long enough, it's time we got this action.
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>>4397815
>(Write-in) Let Sakura answer Rin. Still inform them that we are changing our name to Makiri and while we appreciate the offer to stay we are gonna find a place for ourselves. So we can stay for the night
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Case Files is not a bad way to hunt for catalysts along the way.
Unless we are going to just pay someone to find and dig Genghis Khans grave or something like that.
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>>4398205
>Case Files
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>>4398259
Genghis Khan's grave is unmarked
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>>4398205
Grail War.
Guys, do you really want to put off the war with a months long sidequest for a solved mystery?
Fuck that.
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>>4398292
>do you really want to put off the war with a months long sidequest for a solved mystery?
yes
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>>4398284
I know.
Our very own Indiana Jones-esque adventure.
But yeah it is probably easy to just steal commonly known things like durendal or one of possible spear of destiny
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>>4398292
I just want more clocktower.
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>>4398259
We already have five catalysts from Zouken plus a standing offer from the Einzberns. Do we really need even more?
>>4398292
Anons will do anything for minmaxing, even if it means putting the main story off indefinitely.
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>>4398205
Can we help Gray and Waver out without committing full time to Case Files?
Is there anything that would require our intervention?

What if Zouken flies to London and messes with events there?
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>>4398104
Gamer Ilya
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>>4398292
We've been abusing Waver so I want to help him out.
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Welp, no matter if we go to Case Files or straight to the Grail War, it seems like we'll be getting a time skip soon.
We got 2 years ahead of us.
That means 4 Magical Studies, 3 Major Focuses, and 6 Minor.
Here's what I'm thinking.

Magic
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training.
(Being able to do more with less is key given the nature of our circuits.)
>Reality Marble.
(It was all but stated that we can't make any more progress on our other truth shit until we figure it out.)
>Counter-Magic
(Our truth will probably make Counter-Magic super busted)
>Summoning
(So we can use our horde of catalysts that some of you seem insistent on collecting)

Major Focus:
>Continue training your Bajiquan abilities.
>Continue training your body physically
>Improve your charismatic ability.
Gotta make sure these skills are as high as we can get them before this shit starts poppin off. They're our main means of dealing with the enemies we face and there will be many of them.

Minor Focus:
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on making Sakura less emotionally dependent and fostering a healthy sibling relationship.
We're already rich, we're already got Zouken out of the way, and Shirou is already set on the track to being sicko mode.
At this point all, the only thing to do is make sure we stay connected to all our connections and we should be set.
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>>4398334
I approve of this list.
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>>4398334
This is a pretty solid set of priorities.
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>>4397880
I am a Tamamo fan, but this is a bad idea. Tamamo summoned in Japan would unleash all kinds of hell.
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Christ another week with no Grail war. You fags are killing me
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>>4398205
>grail war
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>>4398334
Solid but
>Methods to survive your circuits at maximum power.
Is also really important for us.
It may also be last chance to learn Runes and we have just looted actual good books from Zouken.
Given role of Matou those might be worth checking out.
A shame that Time Manipulation was never an option for us.
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>>4398334
Our efficiency is already good enough, we just need to be able to use more of our circuits. I'm also pretty sure we hit the limit with reality marble research too.
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>>4398334
We need to pick up something like runes, we need to be able to survive with more of our circuits active. Marble is a good one though.

I don't think our Baijiquan, Physical Training and Charisma will go any higher. We should see if we can learn Snake Style.
I also really want to spend some time and go see if Kiara exists, so we can nip Beast III/L in the bud.
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>>4398377
>Beast III/L
Beast III/R
Sorry, I get them mixed up sometimes.
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Why use catalysts? It's more exciting to ROLL THE GACHA
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>>4398336
>>4398341
My only regret is not having the time to learn one of Touko's signature moves while we had the chance.
Imagine your start pupil having no interest in your secret techniques that many of your peers would slaughter for, so sad.
Ruins are hyper busted, the idea of truth puppets and whatever that would entail got my almonds activated, and being able to steal the Einzbern crest from them was a plan I had cookin on the back burner.
But I suppose it wasn't meant to be.

>>4398364
>>4398370
>Our efficiency is already good enough, we just need to be able to use more of our circuits.
I didn't put increase max circuits because if we get more efficient with what we have we might not need it. We are only at 1/3 magic efficiency, if we could cut costs even lower that would be great.
I'd want to go over Zouken's books before I choose to do Runes. It's kinda Shinji's obligation as the Matou master, but there simply isn't enough time.
We could always put Summoning on the back burner, but then what's the point of having all these damn catalysts and then going out on Case Files to get even MORE? Broken vials and shards of the round table don't look great collecting dust on the shelf.

>>4398377
>I don't think our Baijiquan, Physical Training, and Charisma will go any higher.
Why?
There's no reason to believe our Baijiquan, Physical Training and Charisma won't go any higher. If you got anything other than a gut feeling that I might have missed then go ahead and show me, but until otherwise stated raising these are our best bet rather than trying to learn something new. This late in the game, specialization is the key.

>Kiara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUqmBayhTH0
Really though, we got too much other shit going on, too many people we already need to keep an eye on. What would you change to make room?

>>4398389
Because we have so many of them and we're gonna fucking use them!
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>>4398402
Who is this and where can I fuck?
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>>4398389
>Shinji discovers he can devote 1 of his circuits to fulltime support of a servant with no adverse effects
>Spends first week of the Grail War rolling the gacha with various catalysts he accumulated until that point
>Enters the grail war with a roster straight out of a mobile game
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>>4398407
>Who is this
Kiara Sessyoin

>where can I fuck
Probably nowhere.
If you mean "where can I fuck her", then probably also nowhere given she's a Fate Go/Extra character and probably isn't canon in this quest.
Looking for her to see if she even exists and then befriending her would take too much time. Time we're about to run out of.
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>>4398402
>There's no reason to believe our Baijiquan, Physical Training and Charisma won't go any higher
We've hit B rank with Baijiquan, unless we summon Li Shuwen or go find Master Panda, we probably can't get it any higher.
Physical Training feels like it keeps getting glossed over, it didn't even warrant a paragraph during the last update or a stat on the sheet.
Charisma is already pretty high, B rank is Arthur/Ozy/Karl the Great, King of a Nation tier. We'll need some amazing bullshit to bust into that.

>our best bet rather than trying to learn something new.
>not wanting Wibbly Wobbly Fist
Christ, it's like you don't even want to school Mystic Beasts and Servants. Besides, we've been planning for Snake Style since the start of the quest, fuck not going for it now that we have the chance.

>Looking for her to see if she even exists and then befriending her would take too much time.
It's not hard to look for the Tachikawa Eiten School and if it does, to go cure her.
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>>4398455
>We've hit B rank with Baijiquan, unless we summon Li Shuwen or go find Master Panda, we probably can't get it any higher.
>Physical Training feels like it keeps getting glossed over, it didn't even warrant a paragraph during the last update or a stat on the sheet.
Those aren't reasons, at least not very good ones.
Physical strength is always something that can be improved and we very well could be pointed in the direction of Master Panda during the time skip. And even if we weren't there's no reason why we shouldn't keep pushing our skill if we haven't been told we hit the skill wall as we were with our Reality Marble and Truth shit.

>We'll need some amazing bullshit to bust into that.
We're rich and bound to be richer, one of the richest in the world in fact. The influence that comes with being one of the most wealthy people on earth is a great staging ground for obtaining that next level of charisma. We could be an underground Elon Musk years before that fuck hit the mainstream.

>Besides, we've been planning for Snake Style since the start of the quest, fuck not going for it now that we have the chance.
We planned to save Sakura since the start of the quest.
We planned to kill Zouken since the start of the quest.
We planned to let Shirou have Saber since the start of the quest.
Snake style was an idea pushed by one anon that still hasn't caught on. That said, if WhatIsAQM tells us you're right and we're finna hit the wall in regards to Baijiquan or Physical Training, then I'll be more than willing to bro out with Kuzuki. He deserves a happy ending too after all.

>It's not hard to look for the Tachikawa Eiten School and if it does, to go cure her.
Fair enough, but again I ask what you plan to replace in order to go looking for her.
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>>4398518
>Snake style was one anon.
>Doesn't want to research bounded fields, the method by which reality marbles manifest.
>Doesn't want to research our three origins that everyone has glossed over.
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Don't let one Fag speak for all of us. Case files will win then we can get terrible rolls on the stats soon
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>>4398561
Most of us said Case Files, we're doing Case Files. Plus we kinda owe Waver, he's a bro
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>>4398554
>Snake style was one anon.
The whole learning Snake Style thing was never very popular, or at the very least was always low priority. In some threads, it was literally only one guy bringing it up if anyone did at all.
Where were you when Kuzuki needed you? Cause from the looks of it, you weren't voting for him or voicing your agreement to help him.

>Doesn't want to research bounded fields, the method by which reality marbles manifest.
>Doesn't want to research our three origins that everyone has glossed over.
Hmmm, yeah you might have a point there, but it's not like I don't want to do these things, we just don't have the time. I guess if anything had to go it would be Summoning and Counter-Magic, but then there's also all of Zouken's books we need to think about. Got any ideas on that?
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>>4398570
Ok
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>>4398581
>or at the very least was always low priority.
No shit it was low priority. Kuzuki didn't arrive in Fuyuki until like 2 - 3 years before the Grail War. We literally couldn't do anything with it before now.
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>>4398104
I want to friendzone the Fate girls and romance Sacchin.
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>>4398205
Case Files
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>>4398596
>We literally couldn't do anything with it before now.
Very true, but it still wasn't a very popular plan to start with. Not saying nobody wanted it, just that it was never something many people were set on doing, especially after our Bajiquan training started to pay major dividends.
Even now, I'm not really against the idea, but there are other things we could be doing instead, and with no indication that those things won't continue giving us a proper return on investment there's no reason to go out of our way to do anything else.

All that said, maybe we could replace physical training with Snake Style, but I'd do it more for Kuzuki's sake than anything else. Losing out on /fit/Shinji will suck, but honestly, there's only so much brute strength can get us against higher tier enemies I suppose.
I'm adamant about continuing to train Bajiquan and raising our charisma though, those skills are too important not to try and raise as much as possible.
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>>4397815
Since we have two votes going and votes in here have gotten confusing before, trying to sort stuff out to help WhatIs.
>Let Sakura Answer
>>4397816
>>4397817
>>4397818
>>4397832
>>4397846
>>4397900

>Live with Rin
>>4397859
>>4398042

>Let Sakura Answer, but tell Rin we're changing our name.
>>4397830
>>4397867
>>4397886
>>4397902
>>4397904
>>4397943
>>4398148
>>4398236
>>4398257

>Grail War
>>4398206
>>4398214
>>4398235
>>4398242
>>4398254
>>4398292
>>4398360

>Case Files
>>4398208
>>4398209
>>4398212
>>4398216
>>4398225
>>4398228
>>4398268
>>4398609
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>>4398698
oh wait is living with Rin also a vote? Then yeah I also add that to my vote along with Sakura answering and us changing out name
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>>4398313
what is there even to minmax in some side quest shit?
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>>4398757
Autism
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>>4398757
Autism
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>>4398757
Autism
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>>4398205
Grail War
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>>4398757
Autism
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>>4398757
Not sure why there needs to be something to minmax. Just enjoy yourself.
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>>4398632
>Grail war
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>>4398757
This guy here >>4398901 clearly meant "Autism"
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>>4398768
>>4398771
>>4398874
>>4398892
>>4398928
Autism
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>>4398205
>Grail War.
I dont know much about case files, but from what's been said it doesn't seem too important.
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>>4398960
it isnt but its cool if youre familiar with fate lore. I think it's time for the grail war. We have spent the entire summer training and we finally saved sakura, now its time to get to the meat and potatoes
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If we are going the Case Files route, remember anons - Olgamarie dies in every single timeline except for this one (possibly).

Protect that smile.
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>>4399012
We've been going the protect route for a while so yeah, another person protected ain't gonna hurt
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"Before Sakura answers, I just want to say one thing." You cut in for just a moment. While you don't really want to interrupt Sakura, you don't really want to let this go unsaid. "I don't know what Sakura is going to choose, but since I'm no longer affiliated with Zouken Matou, and I certainly want to part of the Matou Crest. I'm going to take a new last name." Rin raises an eyebrow at you as you start speaking. "...Or that is to say, an old one. I intend to take on the family name that is my true birthright, and the name that differentiates an ancient decaying worm with a once well respected magus."

Rin catches on to your meaning, though Sakura doesn't seem to get it. "You can't mean to say..."

"That's right, Tohsaka-san. From now on, please refer to me as Shinji Makiri, Head of the well renowned Makiri family." You introduce yourself with a slight bow. Well, 'well renowned' is maybe a little bit of a stretch, but as one of the three founding families of the Holy Grail War, it's always the 'Makiri' who get the credit, and never the 'Matou'. Zouken can take his make believe family name as well as what should've been a mighty crest of a family that has prospered for five hundred years and he can die with them in some pit in the ground. "I still need to get the paperwork in order though, so it's not official yet." But it will be soon. Now that there's absolutely no reason to use the last name Matou, you will discard it. It's a name tainted by Zouken, after all. Not one worth trying to keep when you've got a better alternative ripe for taking. "Of course, if Sakura doesn't want to take her old family name, she would be included in this, obviously." You try to keep a neutral tone in order to avoid setting Rin off again.

"Fine then... Makiri-kun. I suppose it's easier if I call you that anyway." Rin shrugs, she doesn't seem all too bothered by your choice to leave your original name behind, it's pretty clear that she's focused entirely on Sakura anyway, so it's not like you expected her to be shocked by the dramatic reveal that you've decided to change your name. Which is kind of unfortunate, but the tone of the conversation has already reached a point where such theatrics would just prove detrimental to things. "So, Sakura, now that your... brother has made his own choice about changing his name clear, there's really no need for you not to take back your family name, is there?" Rin's voice is kind of... desperate? Almost pleading, as she tries to get Sakura to accept her offer.
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"I... I don't know, Nee-san." Sakura sounds totally indecisive about things, as expected, honestly. She's gone through so much today already, and you're a little irritated that you've managed to subject yourself and Sakura to this avoidable family drama from Rin. Even if it wasn't entirely avoidable, it could've at least been postponed until Sakura has had a few days to recover from things. "I... I want to live with both Onii-chan and Nee-san... I don't know what I should do." Sakura clearly has started to see this as some sort of choice she has to make between Rin and yourself, and while it's pretty obvious that the girl is obviously going to pick you instead of her birth sister, she's still deliberating. She must be having something of a crisis. For all that Sakura must've resented Rin for blissfully going about her life as a magus, ignorant to her suffering, there's no real need for her to hold onto that resentment anymore, and the two girls obviously did love each other a great deal in their youth.

As Sakura deliberates on choosing, you take the chance to make a suggestion. "Sakura... Why don't you take on both our names?" Sakura tilts her head in confusion at your suggestion. "Well, if Rin's alright with it, then you could be Sakura Makiri-Tohsaka, that way I can be your elder brother, and Rin can be your elder sister." Usually, double barrel surnames like this are supposed to be for marriages, but this scenario is enough to warrant one too, in your honest opinion. Sakura looks content at your suggestion, although just as she's about to speak up about it and give her approval, Rin butts in.

"O-of course I'm alright with it, but you'd be Sakura Tohsaka-Makiri, right, Sakura?" The twin-tailed pseudo-tsundere tries her luck to get the Tohsaka name moved in front of the Makiri name, implying that it's the more important name to Sakura. Is... Is she really going to make a problem out of your solution? Good grief, Rin Tohsaka.

"Tohsaka-san. I think it's only fair that the Makiri name go first, after all, it was my suggestion to resolve things like this. But what we think is irrelevant on the matter, it's what Sakura thinks that's important." You let Sakura take the stage again, after silencing her far more annoying and far less affable elder sibling. While you don't hate Rin, when she's acting like this, it's hard not to let some negative comments you might be feeling about her slip. You doubt you'd do something like that if you were dealing with nearly any other person, but Rin seems to be something of a unique case for you, your ability to keep your cool seems to naturally break down around this girl.
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>>4398922
Now that i think about it more, fuck it case file it is
Changing to
>Case file
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"I... I like your idea, Onii-chan. That's it, I'll be Sakura Makiri-Tohsaka from now on!" Sakura happily announces her own name change, and you smile triumphantly while Rin frowns in defeat. While it's certainly a nicer outcome for Rin than it would've been had Sakura chosen to reject her outright, she doesn't seem to appreciate it so much. "So, we'll be living with Nee-san for a while then, right, Onii-chan?" Sakura asks you just what the two of you will be doing down the line in that regard.

"Well, for a while, it seems. I do wish to get a place to call my own sorted out at some point though. I'm thinking I should purchase one of those empty mansions in the woods, actually." The ones that the Edelfelt used during the Third War, by all rights, they should both be even larger than Rin's home and the Matou mansion. Second only to the Einzbern Castle, but really, the Einzbern having the most flashy base of accommodations is about what you would expect of them. Oh well, in time, you'll have more money than even the Einzbern can match, of that you're certain. After all, you've basically had no difficulty amassing a huge personal fortune, not including your investments and the businesses you've purchased, you have hundreds of millions of dollars to spare.

Rin claps her hands together. "Then it's settled! The two of you will be staying here for as long as it takes Makiri-kun to sort out new housing arrangements for himself. Sakura, you'll be staying in your old room." Her old room? Isn't Sakura just a little big for a room meant for a girl who was only about seven years old when she left the Tohsaka? Rin continues talking in order to explain herself. "I've... kept the room in a way that you'll be able to return to it at any time." You don't know if that's heartwarming, odd, or just plain depressing. "And I guess you can stay in one of the guest rooms, Makiri-kun." She basically says that as an after thought. "Now, Sakura, shall we go and see you-" Rin is interrupted by the loud sound of a doorknocker clacking on her front door. "Oh! I should probably go and get that. I'm sure I won't be very long." Rin hurries out of the room and downstairs.

Curious as to who the visitor might be, you follow her, silently gesturing for Monica and Gray to find another room to stand around in instead of the entrance hall just in time for Rin to open the door to the man you wanted to see the least today... Well, actually, all things considered, he's behind both Zouken and Gilgamesh at this point. Still though, the fact that Kirei is here can't be good.
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"Good afternoon, Rin." The priest smiles. There's another figure with Kirei, though they are wearing a hood. They are however noticeably shorter than Kirei. Unfortunately, the heavy hooded robes they are wearing prevent you from even discerning a body shape for them, so you can't even ascertain their gender. Still, Kirei wandering around with another person cannot be good news. "I'm just here to ask you if you are aware of the rampant misuse of magecraft in public that occurred today. It seems that there was... quite a disturbance at the Matou household... You wouldn't happen to know anything about that, would you?" Rin manages to keep a completely straight face as she stares back at Kirei, obviously she's fully intending to lie about things to the priest... You hope.

>Get involved. Explain the events of today to Kirei yourself.
>Don't say anything, let Rin handle it.
>Well you failed to get rid of Zouken, but Monica and Gray are still here, so you may as well remove one threat you'll face in the future today.
>Write-in...
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>>4399090
>You know Kirei doesn't like Zouken so...Throw Zouken under the bus. Throw him under the bus...HARD.
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>>4399090
Well fuck. I guess let Rin explain and hope she doesn't fuck us over. Worst case scenario we can hope Grey can pull out her NP and obliterate the sociopathic priest.
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>>4399090
>Get involved, have monica & gray as back up and tell Kirei to come in so we can talk but NOT the person in the hood unless they take it off
I wonder who could it be wearing the hood
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>>4399112
Could it be gil?
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It would be just our luck if we could convince Kirei to wipe Zouken out for us.
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>>4399114
Or the other church person. Whoever that ends up being. Either way, it's suicidal to fight; at best, we trade people and that's a terrible decision.
>>4399090
>Get involved. Explain the events of today to Kirei yourself.
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>>4399101
+1
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>>4399090
>Get involved. Explain the events of today to Kirei yourself.
Our Grandfather, Zouken, was being a bastard, attacked us for not helping him abuse our sister.
Our two bodygaurds helped protect us.
Fucker is still on the loose though.
We had our girl here take care of as many witnesses as she could get her hands on.
We're deeply sorry for the disturbance.

As for who the hooded figure could be, it's probably whoever the church sent over to look after him after the church blew up.
AKA, probably nobody we want to fuck with.
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>>4399090
>>4399101
support. I bet that hooded figure is Ciel. she is nearby
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>>4399090
Supporting >>4399101
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>>4399101
support
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Is it possible to change the truth of an item so it posses explosive properties? Truth bombs if you will.
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>>4399395
I actually have wondered for a while if we could alter the truth of individuals. Like making Kirei not naturally evil or turn Issei into someone relevant.
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>>4399404
Kirei has natural magic resistance due to having a good amount of opened circuits, so it will probably cost way too much even if it's theoretically possible.
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>>4399411
A shame. I like the priest, freeing him from his burden would be cool. But I guess killing him does that anyway.
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>>4399090
>Get involved. Explain the events of today.

We don't know what the priest knows which puts us at disadvantage if we want to gloss truth over, but Rin wasn't there at all so she wouldn't know what to say at all.

In any case >>4399101 is right. It's all Zouken's fault. He was the one who chose to send out the drones into the open after all.
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>>4399101
>>4399090
+1
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>>4399090
backing >>4399101
be as truthful as possible
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>>4399114
Not likely, unless he took the kid potion. They're close in height iirc.

Could be Ciel, Caren, or more OCs
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>>4399101
>>4399090
Supporting this.

>the priest smiles
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>>4399630
No way it’s caren
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>>4399630
>>4399747
its absolutely not Caren lmao
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>>4399756
Caren will be a slut for BMC
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Who's Caren
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>>4399794
Kirei's daughter
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>>4399799
Should we kill her?
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>>4399800
No she is based and is a glutton for punishment
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>>4399801
She fuckable?
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>>4399800
she's based fuck off

>>4399803
very
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>>4399803
she's probably the most fuckable girl in fate other than rin. Also I'm a saberchad btw but she is for love and tender care, not raw, carnal sex.
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>>4399827
Built for BMC
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>>4399819
>she is for love and tender care, not raw, carnal sex
Then who is?
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>>4399838
Kirei
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>>4399101
supporting this
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>>4399841
What? And not Rider?
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>>4399838
Caren, Rin, Rider, TAIGA
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>>4399838
Definitely Rider
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>>4399819
I meant saber is for love and tender care if you are reading this wrong. I wasn’t clear. I love my wife saber with all my heart
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>>4399838
Illya.
>>4399090
>Don't say anything, let Rin handle it.
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>>4399859
Illya is for lap sits and tucking in to bed
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>>4399860
No she's for fucking and getting pregnant
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>>4399860
Remember her "corrupted honeymoon" dojo line? Illya is all about carnality. You can't just ignore that part of her desires.
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>>4399863
The heart is deceitful above all things
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>>4399863
Also no I don’t I missed a lot of dojo’s and. I’m not going to go back and get them
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Of course, after that display from earlier, you should have expected something like this. The Church will also enforce the first law among magi if they see a reason to do so. While they are usually focused more on dealing with vampires and the unholy, rogue magi revealing the existence of magecraft to the world probably aren't so unusual for them to make disappear either. You don't know just who it could be underneath that hood, the Church is such a huge organization that it could literally be anyone. The fact that they feel the need to conceal their identity however is quite unnerving. They're either hideously disfigured, or they are trying to keep their true identity hidden. You're tilting towards the latter option when it comes to their motive towards hiding their face, too. Servants

Before Rin gets the opportunity to say anything to Kirei, as she hastily thinks of an excuse you step forward. "Ah, you must be Kotomine-san, the priest. I heard about what happened to your Church a few years ago, it must have been a very hard time for you." You give Kirei a little bit of false sincerity. In truth, the only sad part about his Church going up in flames is that he wasn't incinerated along with it.

Kirei seems to be surprised by your sudden arrival, and with a smile greets you. "Oh? I think I recognize you... You're a Matou, correct?" He then turns back towards Rin. "Have you finally managed to attract a boy, Rin?" The smile never leaves the priest's face as he takes in your sudden appearance. If he was shocked by your presence here, he's not showing it at all.

"A-as if!" Rin grumpily shouts out, before suddenly realizing the implication of her denial.

"Yes, I am... Well, I was, at least. I had something of a disagreement with my grandfather today, which lead to us both trying to kill each other. However, he broke the laws of magecraft first by sending a horde of flesh eating insects after me in broad daylight!" You pin the blame squarely on Zouken. It's all his fault, after all, and you know that Kirei despises the old worm anyway.

"Oh? What could it have been that would cause you to turn on the head of your family like that? An argument? Perhaps a power struggle?" Kirei takes a few guesses as to the origin of this apparently sudden feud between you and your 'grandfather'. He's really not even close.

You take a deep breath. It's probably about time Rin heard this too. "He tried to make me rape my sister, in order to appease the crest worms within her, which would've eaten her alive from the inside out without... sexual intercourse." You say the last words like a headsman swinging down his axe.
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You can't actually see Rin's face, standing just behind her as you are, but you can tell from how she's frozen up that she obviously wasn't expecting that. Kirei however doesn't seem to be all too bothered, still smiling as he stares directly at Rin, clearly enjoying seeing her suffer. Telling Rin about this in front of Kirei might not be kind, but it will hopefully put the priest in a better mood. The additional visitor says something harsh and angry sounding in French, and it's clear from their voice that they are female. Still, if anything, the mystery visitor knowing how to speak French only makes things more difficult for you to figure out. You'll just have to think things through as to who they could be a little later on. That is, if they are anyone you've ever even heard of. There must be hundreds of high ranking powerful Church agents that match what you know about this woman.

After letting the reactions to your announcement pass by, you continue speaking "So instead, I used my magecraft to purge my sister's body of the worms, incinerating them all completely and freeing her of Zouken's grasp. I'm quite certain that the number of magi who could've managed something like what I did number below one hundred, at most." Of course, you know a few magi who would potentially be able to remove the Crest Worms from Sakura. Touko for one would be able to do it, technically, you could probably count on Gray being able to do it. Aoko would've been able to manage it too. In fact, even Sacchin might be able to do it with her Reality Marble, if she ever actually becomes a Dead Apostle. You don't know whether you're going to allow that to happen yet though. If Sacchin never becomes a Dead Apostle, that dooms her to a life of irrelevance, but if she does become a Dead Apostle, then you'll need to save her to prevent her from losing herself to bloodlust and crossing lines that she can't come back from. "Zouken was... very displeased by this development."

Rin seems to recover slightly from her previous shock, and finally mutters insults directed at the worm who isn't present under her breath. She must be absolutely livid now. You had refrained from speaking about this so much in front of Sakura, but now that you've both left the girl upstairs, you can talk freely.

"Language, Rin." Kirei lightly scolds the twin-tailed magus, who flinches back to her senses at Kirei's harsh tone. Despite everything, the fake priest really does seem to take his assigned task of raising Rin with at least some manner of seriousness. "It's not very elegant of you to be so foul mouthed, is it?" His tone is sardonic... Then again, that's really just how he normally speaks.
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"In light of what has happened today, I've also decided to change my last name. I'm no longer Shinji Matou. I've taken on the family name Makiri once again." You refrain from saying anything about bringing the house back to greatness or something like that, Kirei won't care at all about something like that, however, there is something you can ask the fake priest. "In addition, you're the overseer of the next Holy Grail War, are you not?" You may as well make some lemonade out of these lemons.

"That is correct, Shinji Makiri. Why do you ask?" Kirei seems intrigued by you suddenly changing the topic.

"Because Zouken was trying to cheat. He was intending to completely usurp the grail war by constructing his own Lesser Grail." Namely, Sakura. But you aren't going to throw her under the bus to Kirei. There's no guarantee that that will go well at all. "He had every intention of breaking the rules of the grail war and as such, isn't it your responsibility as the Overseer to... well... deal with him?"

"You are correct. As the Church's appointed overseer, it is my duty to ensure that nobody in this Grail War breaks the rules that have been put in place to prevent the war from becoming a bloodbath." ...You're such a piece of shit, Kirei. You can't hold that thought back as you look at the cheater who fully intends to not only turn to war into a bloodbath, but to turn the entire world into one. "But do you have any proof?" And there it is.

"The only proof I have are the shard of the grail he has implanted within my sister, and I'm quite hesitant to allow you to examine her... She's been through a lot today, after all." Also you don't want anybody deciding that Sakura in her current state also counts as a cheater. With any luck, what defeated servants there are don't end up flowing towards her. Then again, if there are too many deceased Servants within Illya, then her body will shut down.

"Understandable. I'll keep this in mind for when I seek out Zouken. In the interest of fairness, I do need to see what he has to say for himself about breaking the very laws the Mage's Association put in place, before I decide what's to be done about things. Really Rin, this ought to be your job." Kirei reminds Rin that as the Second Owner, keeping magi living on her land in line isn't actually his responsibility, after all, and the Mage's Association would be very quick indeed to take Fuyuki out of Rin's control if they were given reason to. "Well, enjoy the rest of your evening, Rin. You too, Makiri." Kirei walks away without any further comment. With any luck, he'll land the finishing blow on that bastard Zouken for you. Or hell, maybe Zouken will kill him instead! Honestly, either works for you.
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Rin closes the door and lets out a deep breath as she stares daggers at you. "Shinji. Please tell me that what you said to the priest back then was a lie to get him to leave you alone." Only now does Rin seem to realize just what sort of suffering that Sakura was being put through. Her expression further sinks when you say nothing in response. "...I'm... I'm going to kill that son of a bitch!" Rin finally can't contain her anger and she goes for the door, only for you to lean a hand on it to prevent her from leaving the house.

"Rin. This is exactly the reason why I didn't tell you what was going on earlier. Calm down, and we'll be able to figure out a way to kill Zouken together. We won't get anywhere if we just let ourselves be carried away by our emotions." You look at Rin with a neutral gaze. "Now is the time to act like a magus, Rin. Don't let your emotions get the better of you." No matter how annoying you might find the girl sometimes, her getting herself killed by Zouken is one of the last things in the world that you want.

Rin clenches her fists as she tries to force calm upon herself. "You're... You're right, Makiri-kun..." Rin seems lost for a moment as she contemplates just what she should do next, before she sighs, a heavy exhausted sigh. She's had a lot revealed to her today, after all. "Why don't we have lunch? Your two... friends, included." At a loss, Rin just offers to cook food. You suppose that's something at least.

"Oh! On the topic of Monica, I've decided to hire her as a bodyguard, I'm not sure how you'll feel about that. But I can pay you in exchange for letting her stay her for a while." With any luck, you won't just have to buy Monica the house adjacent to this one to live in, but if Rin refuses you, that's exactly what you'll do.

"It's fine, I'm going to reconfigure the interior bounded field anyway now that you're here anyway, so I don't really think I'm going to have to worry about anyone stealing my family magecraft." Rin doesn't really seem to object to the idea of Monica being around. "But if you can't pay for her rent, I'll be booting her out of my house very quickly." Probably because she's seen this as some sort of opportunity to make some more money for herself. Sure, whatever.

>Go have lunch with everyone. (Timeskip two years.)
>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Shirou
>>Go visit Touko
>Write-in...
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>>4399924
>The additional visitor says something harsh and angry sounding in French, and it's clear from their voice that they are female.
Let's all hope it's Ciel.
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>>4399930
>go visit all 3 and update them about stuff.
No need to actually play it all out honestly (we can just go straight to the timeskip), but we do need to make sure everyone has at least a basic knowledge of what's going on.
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>>4399930
>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Shirou
>>Go visit Touko
We should meet with all of them.
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>>4399930
>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Touko
I don't really see a reason why we need to talk to Shirou right now besides just saying hi, but for the sake of keeping Einzbern suspicion low we ought to talk to Giselle, and we, of course, need to tell Touko the good news and thank her for everything she's done for us so far.
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>>4399930
>Go visit Touko
Probably a top priority right now comparing to other two. Although we should at least write to Acht later.
We need to thank her for helping us all those years, hear her opinion on situation and ask her for advice about proper preparations to Fifth war now that we can reveal more to her. Maybe even let her pick Magical Studies we need to get to have an advantage or cover our weaknesses.
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>>4399930
>>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Shirou
>>Go visit Touko

Tempted to add play wingman and bring Shirou along.
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>>4399930
>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Touko
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>>4399930
>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Touko
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>>4399930
>>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>>Go visit Giselle
>>>Go visit Shirou
>>>Go visit Touko
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>>4399946
Support
And we can have a gigantic lunch too
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>>4399990
Why oh why would we bring Giselle, the Einzbern spy, to a lunch with Shirou, someone we aren't supposed to know well as far as the Einzberns are concerned?
Why are you so set on having a huge party anyway? I genuinely don't understand why everyone thinks that would be appropriate or a good idea.
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>>4400000
Don’t get smug with me
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>>4400000

reeeeeeeee u sunnuva bitch you were waiting for that one, weren't you?

well-played...
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>>4400003
Then answer the question in a way that doesn't make me question your intelligence.
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>>4400005
Die
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>>4400014
Reply based to this post or your mother will die in her sleep tonight
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>>4400004
Honestly no. I'm just very confused by the actions of my fellow players, if it was on purpose I would have posted something like pic related being peak female performance.
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>>4399930
>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Shirou
>>Go visit Touko
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>>4399930
Go see Touko and then timeskip
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>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Touko

Btw, what's stopping us from summoning a servant right now?
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>>4400053
We should see if Touko can scry to see what the arrow head and vial are then summon.
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>>4400053
You aren't allowed to summon a servant until upwards of 2 months in advance of the war.
Also the deal we made with the Einzberns requires us to go to them for the summoning with whatever catalyst we might obtain, assuming we're chosen by the holy grail.
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>>4399930
>Go visit Shirou
>Go visit Touko
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>>4399946
Support
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>>4399930

>"Actually Rin, there's somebody I need to meet first."
>>Go visit Giselle
>>Go visit Shirou
>>Go visit Touko

Presumably not all at once.
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All right, so it seems that going to visit multiple people is winning.
But a real quick question.
Who do you want to visit first?
This is very important.
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>>4400215
Giselle
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>>4400215
Giselle First
Touko Last
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>>4400215
Giselle, then Touko.
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>>4400215
Touko
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>>4400215
>>4400239
+1
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>>4400215
Touko
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>>4400239
+1
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>>4400215
Giselle
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Actually, does the mana absorber work in its present state? Or do we need Touko to fix it up?
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>>4400215
>Giselle
I would prefer Acht not too think too much.
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>>4400295
You can fix the chain it's on with your own magecraft.
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>>4400215
Giselle
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>>4400215
>Giselle
Part of me REALLY wants to go full Hollow Ataraxia on Giselle eventually. And that means fill her "grail" up with "white mud" so she can give birth to a little "Avenger" too. And by all this, I'm talking about extreme heartfelt babymaking sex with a fucking homunculus maid who we've won over with the power of humanity and chinese martial arts.
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>>4400317
OK nympho
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>>4400215
Giselle
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>>4400215
My boy Shirou comes first
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>>4400215
Touko.
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>>4400000
You know what fuck you im looking back at this and I didn’t even say Giselle I just said have a giant lunch
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Giselle HASN’T been with us for years. She’s been with us for a week.
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>>4400215
Shirou. I’m guessing he’s the only person we know in danger from Zouken. He knows we know each other
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>>4400613
Supporting
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>>4400215
>Shirou
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"Actually, Tohsaka-san, there's a few people I need to meet first, to discuss the events of today with. It's of pretty vital importance that I inform them of my change in circumstances before I do anything else. After all, it's not every day that you change your name after attempting to murder your grandfather." You can't help but smirk at the ridiculousness of the whole situation. While it's a damn shame that you were unsuccessful in your hunt for Zouken, you'll get him eventually. Of that you're sure. While he will only grow weaker from the passage of time, you've barely even begun to reach the limit of your strength. If you were ever to reach your peak strength with the usage of Truth, dealing with even existences like Servants would be trivial. You would simply be able to overwrite them. Of course, you're an incredibly long way off of being able to do something like that.

"That's fine by me, Makiri-kun. I have... a lot of catching up to do with Sakura anyway..." The volume in Rin's voice raises to a level just above a whisper. "...and a few apologies to give as well." She must truly feel awful about what was happening to Sakura while she was kept entirely unaware, and it's really a problem in their relationship that the two will only be able to patch up privately together. Thankfully, the two of them will be able to discuss what happened with each other in almost the best possible environment they can have, instead of the situation in the Heavens Feel route, where Sakura was possessed by all the evils of the world and Rin didn't feel like peace was an option. In hindsight, Rin probably shouldn't have told Sakura that she was going to kill her multiple times. Well, anybody with half a brain would've had the foresight to at least not reveal your intentions to the being who at that point in time was capable of immediately ending her life. Seriously, what the hell was she thinking? "I'll show your friend you will be paying for to her room too, the uh... taller woman, right?"

"Right. Oh, and if you can help it, try not to look at Gray's face, she wears that hood for a reason, after all." You decide to warn Rin against looking at Gray, for her own sake, really.

"Oh?" Rin sounds a little intrigued by your stern warning.
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"Mhm. She is in possession of a... well, a Mystic Face, she's been cursed with a supernatural beauty that can steal away the hearts of both men and women." You tell Rin a complete lie about Gray. But you feel like you don't need Rin harassing Gray about how beautiful she thinks she is. Especially with how Gray hates her own face. Well, it's technically not even her own face, but you have no wish to get caught up on such technicalities. She really shouldn't complain so much, it's thanks to her connection to Arturia that she isn't a complete mob character, so what if that comes with losing your probably generic and plain original face? "So just try and avoid looking at her no matter the cost, alright? It's less effective on magi, especially ones as talented as you, but even then, there's a chance that your heart will be stolen away by her beauty." It's a lie, but it's a favor to both Rin and Gray. It really is the last thing that Gray needs to have Rin complimenting her on her beauty.

"Well, I suppose I'll keep that in mind, Makiri-kun. It's going to be a little frustrating interacting with somebody I can't look at, but I'll manage. It's not really like I have any reason to talk with either of them anyway." Rin is going to be far too busy with Sakura you think, so it's unlikely she'll start quizzing the two women you brought with you, to Rin, they're just mercenaries, after all. Even if she was interested in talking with either of them, they have basically nothing in common with each other except maybe general morality. You think that all three of them are good people. That of course doesn't mean that they are guaranteed to get along with each other at all, just because the three of them are unlikely to do typical evil magus activities, won't typically mean they'll like each other at all.

"Alright, just so long as you keep that in mind when dealing with her." You give Rin a smile, while you don't really like Rin much at this point, getting along with her can only be beneficial, at least for Sakura's sake. It's really kind of odd, you don't really like Rin as a person, but you still don't want to see her unhappy. Probably because you know how soft-hearted she is hidden beneath that cold magus exterior. "See you later, Tohsaka-san." You part ways with the girl and leave the Tohsaka house.

Of course, you would really like to meet up with all of your allies before you kick back and relax, Shirou included, but as much as you'd like to see Shirou, he's not really a priority right now. You also really should go and see Touko too, and thank her for all her help. Without her assistance, you never would've gotten as far as you have. You really lucked out when you stumbled into her and managed to be taken on as her apprentice. You doubt that Aoko would've been nearly as helpful towards figuring out the true extent of your abilities, after all.
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Touko and Shirou are both important allies that you should go and meet up with to give the news of Zouken's defeat to, but of course, there's a single person that you really ought to be meeting before all of that. Giselle. If Giselle was actually observing you, then she would've been quite aware of your rapid sprint through the streets, meaning that you lied to the Einzbern about your lack of magical talent. Of course, as it was merely reinforcement alone you might be able to talk your way out of things and say that it was a self-enhancement mystic code of some variety, or that another magus temporarily granted you the strength to fight.

The walk to the Einzbern Mansion through the forests is a long one, and it's a few hours before you actually manage to reach the Einzbern Castle, which is looking the part of a haunted castle, even if the lights are all on inside the building. The bounded fields around the place aren't at their full strength right now, and of the ones that were there, slipping past them was quite simple. Being such a prodigy at magecraft means that even if you haven't specialized in actually learning about bounded fields too much, you still know enough to sneak past most lesser varieties. Of course, you'd have had to spend a while working your way past the bounded fields if they were all activated, but currently, these fields are quite lackluster. Mostly only good at keeping out forest animals and the lost hiker. With the knowledge you have accumulated of internalized bounded fields from your research, you can apply those same ideas and thought processes to the dismantling or alteration of other bounded fields. But again, that would take too long, so you settle on just slipping past them.
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As you walk towards the front door of the castle, Giselle drops down from above, having apparently leaped out of a window to... well, you wish you could say greet, but by the way that she's got that halberd leveled at you, spike only a few inches from your face, you can tell that things may not be so nice as to warrant greetings at all. "Makiri." Giselle says your name coldly as she holds the large weapon in a threatening manner. "I was watching you today. I... I need to ask you... Why did you lie to the Einzbern? Why did you lie to me? You... You traitor!" She sounds... pretty angry, actually. This can't be good. "You said that you were incapable of using magecraft, but I can see that was a total lie!" You didn't actually know that Giselle had it in her to be this angry. "What are you really after?!" She inches the halberd forwards. It's only that you don't really want to turn this into a pitched battle between you and Giselle that you don't take action against it.

>"I used no magecraft, Giselle. I merely used a Mystic Code to temporarily reinforce my body."
>"It's true. I lied about my capability to use magecraft to Acht. It was for my own safety. I've got very unique circuits that I've kept hidden from everyone, please don't think of this as a betrayal."
>"I didn't betray you Giselle. In fact, if I have my own way, the Einzbern will truly prosper. Can you really tell me you don't long for an existence outside of being a tool? Work with me, and I can promise that I will do my all to ensure that every homunculus of the Einzbern family lives a happy and fulfilling life of the same length that a normal human would."
>Sigh and say nothing else. Reinforce your body and defend yourself against the homunculus. Maybe she'll see reason if you defeat her in an all out battle.
>Write-in...
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>>4400828
>Write in
>"Acht made an assumption about my abilities and I did not bother to correct him."
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>>4400828
>>4400835
>Support, but also
>"Besides, this is not a betrayal, if anything it is a unforeseen advantage. My goals haven't change since I have made my alliance with the Einzbern."
I don't feel like accusing them of holding secrets in the forms of Giselle as a spy would be wise.
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>"It's true. I lied about my capability to use magecraft to Acht. It was for my own safety. I've got very unique circuits that I've kept hidden from everyone, please don't think of this as a betrayal."
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>"Acht made an assumption about my abilities and I did not bother to correct him." “ I just said I had other ways of defending myself.” “I also have very special magic circuits that would get me hunted by the mages association if they knew”.
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>>4400835
supporting.
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>>4400828
>>4400835
>>4400857
Supporting.
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>>4400828
>>4400835
>>4400857
Support.
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>>4400835
>>4400828
Support
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>>4400828
Supporting >>4400835
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>>4400835
>>4400857
Support

changed my mind from this post>>4401062
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>>4400857
+1
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>>4400828

These >>4400835
>>4400857
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Maybe say something like I intend to tell Acht I have plans on marrying Illya when the time is right. Plant that seed so when Giselle goes back and tells him of your power he'll probably be less inclined to rage.
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>>4401254
I want to Illya route as much as you, but Acht is not an ally and telling him we intend to waifu his grail is going to make him flip the fuck out and immediately ruin our alliance .
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>>4400828
>>4400835
>>4400877
Support
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>>4401270
We really need to learn spiritual surgery so we can extract the grail from Ilya.
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>>4401280
Couldn't we just truth it out of her?
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>>4400828
backing >>4400835
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>>4400828
oh yeah, also +1 to >>4400857 on top of >>4401292
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>>4400835
support
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>>4400828

>>4400857
>>4400835
Support
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>>4401291
It would only be temporary.
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>>4400824
>Well, it's technically not even her own face, but you have no wish to get caught up on such technicalities. She really shouldn't complain so much, it's thanks to her connection to Arturia that she isn't a complete mob character, so what if that comes with losing your probably generic and plain original face?
ALIEN MENTALITY
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>>4400828

>>4400857
>>4400835
support
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>>4400828
>>4400835
>>4400857
Support
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>>4400828
>>"I didn't betray you Giselle. In fact, if I have my own way, the Einzbern will truly prosper. Can you really tell me you don't long for an existence outside of being a tool? Work with me, and I can promise that I will do my all to ensure that every homunculus of the Einzbern family lives a happy and fulfilling life of the same length that a normal human would."
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I think Whatis is dead
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>>4401676
I've just had a busy day.
The update is in the works.
I'm going camping for a few days on Friday though, so there won't be any updates till probably around Tuesday.
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>>4401687
Man I'm going to kms
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>>4401687
You be safe out there when you go.
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>>4401688
This is what I look forward to hope you have fun qm you’re doing a great job
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"Betrayal, Giselle? Acht merely made an assumption about my abilities, and I saw no real reason to correct him at the time. Besides thi-" The point of the halberd inches closer rapidly, and you're cut off from talking by the surprise. She wouldn't actually... kill you, would she? If that halberd of hers gets any closer, then you'll have no choice but to reinforce your body and disable her. Your handicap in the last battle you had was greater than her own handicap, after all.

"You were wearing a mystic code specifically to conceal your abilities. I could feel the difference before and after you went into your home. You can't hide that quantity of magical energy just through self-discipline. What's more, you also easily worked your way through the currently active Bounded Fields of the Einzbern Castle, meaning that you aren't just naturally gifted in the quantity of magical energy you possess, but that you're also very well trained." Giselle immediately tears that argument to shreds. "I'll ask you again, Makiri. What is it that you hoped to gain from lying to the Einzbern as you have? Did you think that we wouldn't find out about this?" Giselle seems to be acting harsher than she normally would, you really don't want to make her your enemy.

"Listen. Giselle. I didn't tell Acht about my true magical ability because I was told by my teacher to keep my true potential secret from everyone. Unless I absolutely trusted that they wouldn't take advantage of me, or worse, turn me into a mystic code or do experiments on me. While I trust the Einzbern family." Well, you trust Illya and some of the maids. "I just wasn't prepared to reveal that aspect of myself at the time... It's not a betrayal. My goals haven't changed at all and I still intend to help the Einzbern. You ought to think of this as an advantage, honestly. The truth of things is that I am actually beyond most people who could rightfully call themselves first rate magi, can you really say that it would be wise to cut off our alliance now, merely because it has been revealed that I am a far more effective ally than I was previously presenting myself as?" It's not the best argument in the world, but it's about the best you can manage.

The halberd pointed at your throat is finally drawn away by Giselle. "No. I suppose I can't." You are relieved as Giselle finally sees reason. "I suppose something like this is really to be expected from a magus, and since it's not a real betrayal anyway... I can... overlook this, in my report to Acht." Giselle smiles at you, it's a sad smile, and you can tell that she's still a little hurt by this revelation. You think that she understands why you kept your true power a secret, at least.
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You let out a breath of relief. At least this means that your relationship with Illya won't be completely dead on the rocks after all. But you somehow get the feeling that things aren't going to be so simple. Not entirely. "You will? Thank you, Giselle." That doesn't stop you from giving your thanks to the homunculus woman though.

Giselle holds up her free hand, the one not carrying her ridiculously heavy halberd "On one... no, two conditions." Great. what could she want though?

Best to just find out, you suppose "Right, name them, then." You ask for just what it is that Giselle is going to be expecting of you. You're pretty much ready to fulfill any sort of demand, no matter how outlandish it might end up being, you're confident in your ability to do... well basically anything, at this point.

"First, you're going to explain everything about yourself to Lady Illyasviel when she comes to this city yourself." Right, you can do that. "Second. You'll do everything in your power to protect Lady Illyasviel in the next war, even if it costs you your life, and if you fail to do either, then I'll kill you myself." Giselle threatens to kill you, her tone neutral as she promises you an execution. She's more than welcome to try, but you doubt that she'll be strong enough to kill you. Especially when you've got a servant by your side... Whoever that servant ends up being.

You're silent for a while after Giselle makes her demands, when you're certain she's finished, you chuckle a little. "Is that all you want me to do?" Giselle has a stern look on her face. "Giselle, you can choose to believe me or not when I'll say this, but I will do everything in my power to ensure that Illyasviel not only survives the war, but I also want her to... live a full life after it. Hopefully, the Third Magic can allow for that." You say with a little bit of embarrassment. You aren't sure how much is real and how much is faked, but now that you've saved Sakura, then obviously, the next logical step is to save Illya and make sure that she has the ability to live a happy fulfilling life. If you can't ensure that the Third will guarantee Illya's survival, then you've said it once and you'll say it again, but you will have no choice but to destroy the grail. If the grail can be restored to a usable condition though, you won't need to even kill that many of the Servants thanks to the presence of Gilgamesh. Of the remaining Servants though...? You suppose you'll just have to find out which ones will be willing to make an alliance with you... Things are going to be pretty awkward if you end up getting yourself in situation where you are unwilling to kill enough Servants to complete the ritual though.
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Giselle's face visibly brightens as you reveal your intention to not only protect Illya, but to also save her from her fate. In fact, the homunculus actually can't look you in the eye anymore. "I'm... I'm sorry that I was so quick to judge you. If you truly do mean what you say, then I was the one in the wrong for accusing you of a betrayal." She sounds a little guilty about accusing you of betraying the Einzbern, you're truly thankful that you spent so long learning how to manipulate people, otherwise this might've gone far worse.

"Oh don't worry so much about it, Giselle. It might sound a little silly, but I want to make sure that I save everyone I can, it's something I've wanted to do since I was young." Well, as long as they have enough plot relevance, that is. You aren't about to dive in front of a truck in order to save the life of a faceless mob character... Well, that's not entirely true, because if you reinforced your body, you're pretty certain that you could survive being hit by a truck, so you'd stand to lose nothing either way, of course, if there was actually a real risk of you dying from trying to save somebody with little relevancy to this world, then you'd just let them die. But honestly, if their character design... appearance is bland and generic, and you either don't know their name or their name is a common sounding one, you'll happily write their existence off as unimportant.

>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
>>see Touko, inform her of your success in saving your sister and give her your heartfelt thanks.
>>back to Rin, now that's out of the way, you can leave the rest until tomorrow. (Timeskip)
>Ask Giselle if she minds if you come inside the Einzbern Castle to look around the place.
>Write-in...
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>>4401852
Leave Giselle, have her give your fondest regards to Illya and see Touko
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>>4401852
>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>see Touko, inform her of your success in saving your sister and give her your heartfelt thanks.
Hope this shows that Giselle IS watching and we need to be on our guard. We can always tell Rin or Sakura to go inform Shirou what he needs to know, but I don't feel comfortable hanging out with him all the time like we used to. Gotta keep our distance, only meet up when it's planned beforehand.
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>>4401852
>>>see Touko, inform her of your success in saving your sister and give her your heartfelt thanks.
>>>back to Rin, now that's out of the way, you can leave the rest until tomorrow. (Timeskip)
Let rin tell shirou about zouken. We can’t be hanging around him now that we know Giselle is watching
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>>4401852
>>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>>see Touko, inform her of your success in saving your sister and give her your heartfelt thanks.
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>>4401852
>>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
Gotta warn my bro
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>>4401852
>>>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
Just kinda worried he's gonna get attacked by worms at some point.
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>>4401852
>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
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>>4401852
>>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
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No one wants a greeting to Illya?
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>>4401852
>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>see Touko, inform her of your success in saving your sister and give her your heartfelt thanks.
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>>4401852
Go see Touko.
Thank God for Charisma.
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>>4401852
>Well, as long as they have enough plot relevance, that is. You aren't about to dive in front of a truck in order to save the life of a faceless mob character... Well, that's not entirely true, because if you reinforced your body, you're pretty certain that you could survive being hit by a truck, so you'd stand to lose nothing either way, of course, if there was actually a real risk of you dying from trying to save somebody with little relevancy to this world, then you'd just let them die. But honestly, if their character design... appearance is bland and generic, and you either don't know their name or their name is a common sounding one, you'll happily write their existence off as unimportant.
Guys...?
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>>4401852
>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>see Touko, inform her of your success in saving your sister and give her your heartfelt thanks.
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>>4402008
This discrimination against mob characters has to stop.
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>>4401852
>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
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>>4402008
Did you just notice?
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>>4402008
Yeah we kinda have a god complex
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>>4402017
I fucking guarantee that we're gonna get fucked over by another guy who got isekai'd into a mob character.
Like the guy we ran into at the Clocktower.
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>>4401852
>>>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
Business before pleasure, Touko can wait a bit if she isn't at risk.
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>>4402033
Konosuba and were the guy with the sword
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>>4402031
It’s the Shinji and isekaibro’s megalomania feeding off each other.
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>>4402040
We're kind of a scumbag though.
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>>4402031
You call it god complex.
I call it A L I E N C O M M O N S E N S E.
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>>4402008
yeah we're psychotic and still genuinely believe the world is fictional even after we spent 8 years living it and building relationships. That's how we get a reality marble
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>>4402075
It’s not 1:1
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I hope we get to do alternate universe stuff via Zelretch.
Or hell.
Rin, even.
I'd like to do Apocrypha.
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I am going to ensure we get a harem.
Don't try to stop me Illyafags, or your waifu will become a cup.
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>>4402266
how?
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>>4402266
Why
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>>4401852
>>Leave Giselle now that you've managed to explain the events of today to her in a way that won't obliterate you alliance with the Einzbern and go...
>>>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
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I can't believe I wrote the entire update for Shirou before I realized that the vote is actually tied 7-7... sort of.
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Should I just post it?
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>>4402559
>see Shirou, warn him of the potential danger represented by Zouken.
I got you homie.
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We have no good reason to see Shirou now. What the hell?
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>>4402559
I'd say do it since I doubt anyone is going to sperg out over it especially since you're gonna be camping soon, but up to you.
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It's already getting late, the journey to the Einzbern Castle isn't a short one, after all, and by the time you get back, the day will basically be over. While you would like to spend some more time with Giselle and get to know her better, you really ought to prioritize Shirou's safety. While he's made quite a bit of progress in his training, you'd really he rather not be forced to face off against Zouken. You're just lucky that Zouken isn't really the type to just try to lash out at people you're friends with. You don't really know what Zouken truly knows or thinks about Shirou Emiya, but the fact of the matter is that he's still the Magus Killer's son, so even now, after his disappearance and probable death, Kiritsugu is helping his son through his reputation alone. How touching.

The journey to Shirou's house is a long one, and by the time you finally get to his house, it must be around 9PM. You knock on his door and wait for a moment, after a few seconds, the front door slides open to reveal Shirou, who looks kind of surprised to see you. "Shinji? What are you doing here at this time of night?" You're about to answer him before he continues speaking. "I'm sure it's pretty important though, so you should probably come in." Shirou is always quick to understand things, despite how he might act sometimes, he's far brighter than he lets on, and not just where pointed objects are concerned.

"Thank you, Shirou." You happily take his offer to enter the house, you aren't really that tired, but even you don't find the long walk through the Einzbern forests to be very enjoyable. Really, you can't wait until you're legally allowed to drive a car. Getting a license should be effortless for you when you actually come of age. If you were to be honest, you could probably break the law and just drive now, if you wanted, but it's way too much effort to go through all the potential hypnotisms you might have to do. It's not really like you need a car right now, anyway. Especially not now that you've employed Monica as a bodyguard.

You sit in Shirou's living room and down at the table, unfortunately, Taiga is absent. She must have already gone home. What a shame. "So, what's up, Shinji? You don't normally come round so late." Shirou questions you, he's curious as to this sudden unannounced arrival, and it occurs to you that you could've probably just called him to warn him. Oh well, it's better if you tell him in person, you guess.
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You sigh. "Well, the truth is Shirou, I've got a warning for you, and I might have to spend less time with you outside of school for the next two years." Both Zouken and the Einzbern are potential threats to Shirou, after all. While it's not all too likely that Zouken in his weakened state would attempt to attack a target like Shirou, who thanks to your added input in his training, should be capable of at least defending himself with a Noble Phantasm or two. Zouken will probably just go after the faceless masses to sustain himself, rather than risk everything. At least until he has a Servant of his own to support him, but then again, if he summons an Assassin, he's really not going to have much luck in dealing with any of the other Servants of the war. Hassans in general tend to be be pretty crappy as Servants, especially when it comes to dealing with other Servants directly. "I got into a battle to the death with my Grandfather today, saved Sakura from a particularly nasty... ritual... that he had in mind for her, and also renounced my family name... well, I adopted an old one, actually." You spare Shirou the details of Sakura's suffering. It would just upset him to know that, and seeing Shirou upset is one of the last things you want to see. It's kind of strange how much you've begun to see Shirou as a true friend, even despite his fictional status.

"Wait... So you aren't a Matou anymore?" Shirou latches onto the least interesting thing out of the three events that you mentioned. Kind of strange, but it's Shirou, strange behavior is something you expect from him. He's the living antithesis to the Trolley Problem, after all.

"Yep. I'll be going by Shinji Makiri from now on. I uh... Didn't end up managing to kill my Grandfather, if you were wondering, but don't worry about him too much. It might be wrong to try to kill your relatives, but Zouken both started things off by trying to kill me first, and he's also a pure evil collection of magical worms that has existed for over half a millennia for the sole purpose of attaining immortality." You tell Shirou just how ridiculous Zouken actually is, the old worm should have given up a century ago, honestly.

"Oh. I uh... Yeah. I..." Shirou looks completely baffled by your casual explanation as to what Zouken actually is, regardless as to how he might feel about your attempted murder of somebody, which being as moral as he is, he probably thinks is wrong. You're going to need to teach him that sometimes there are just evil people who you need to kill in the world. If you manage don't teach him that in the next two years, you're pretty certain that he'll learn the lesson naturally through interacting with Gilgamesh and Kirei in the grail war. "I don't know what to say to that, Shinji." He finally voices his confusion.
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You lean on one of your hands, tilting your head slightly as you yawn. "Yeah, magi are pretty irritating to deal with, Shirou. You should consider yourself lucky that Kiritsugu wasn't a traditional magus. Most magi you'll meet are complete monsters with absolutely no regard for human life who treat their children more like property than anything else. There are a few exceptions of course, but you should never think of the exception as the rule." It's unfortunate that on a morality scale of evil to good, the majority of magi would fall closer to say, Zouken or Acht than they would to Rin.. "Anyway, I wasn't able to kill my grandfather so I'm just going to warn you to be on your guard. If you see any strange large worm like creatures, grab Fujimura-sensei if she's in the house and run... And for the love of God, could you watch your step while you're at it?" You don't know just what might happen should you die, but you know that Shirou has the Taiga Dojo on his side, so he should really be able to cheat his way out of making decisions that would lead to his death through... well, basically the reversal of time.

"Oh... uh, sure. Thanks for the warning, Shinji. I'll keep an eye out for suspicious... worms." Shirou sounds kind of baffled by the idea of worms being such a threat. This is however somebody who has never met Zouken Matou, nor come into direct contact with the horrific creatures that he calls 'familiars'. He's a complete mockery of a respectable magus. An old wraith clinging to life to the detriment of both his family and his family's hopes of reaching the Root would disgust you, if you held the same sensibilities that most magi hold.

>"You're welcome, Shirou. I should be going now though, I'm staying at the Tohsaka Mansion now, by the way."
>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
>"You're very welcome, Shirou. It's getting kind of late, but do you mind if we just... I don't know, hang out for a while?"
>Write-in...
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>>4402564
Just relax.
I'm more for Touko myself, but he's already written so just push forward.
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>>4402573
>>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
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>>4402573
>>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
We can probably mention we're at Tohsaka Mansion as well, unless anons don't want him to know for some reason..?
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>>4402573
>>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
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>>4402573
>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
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>>4402573
Let's just fucking go see Touko.
God I just want to get timeskipping.
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Hmm.
Not a very popular vote I see.
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>>4402573
>You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?

Also mention we’re at Rin’s

Hanging out would be nice but we still owe Touko the visit.
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>>4402573
>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
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>>4402573
>You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?
Careful about Giselle. And yeah, mention the Rin
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Shirou is a good friend.
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>>4402573
>>"You're very welcome, Shirou. It's getting kind of late, but do you mind if we just... I don't know, hang out for a while?"
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>>4402970
No
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>>4402573
>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
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>>4402571
>Kind of strange, but it's Shirou, strange behavior is something you expect from him. He's the living antithesis to the Trolley Problem, after all.
MADMAN REFERENCING THE F/SN TROLLEY PROBLEM MEMES
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>>4402573
>>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?
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>>4402573
>>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"

By the way, what won, Case Files or Grail War?
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>>4403068
Grail Files. We can do Case Wars later.
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>>4402573
>"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?"
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>>4403167
>Grail Files: Investigation of the Holy Grail and the Heaven's Feel ritual.
>Case Wars: Competition between 7 magical investigators who summon legendary sleuths to solve an ancient mystery.
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"You're welcome, Shirou. I need to meet my magecraft teacher now though, so I'll talk to you later. You've still got that phone I bought you, right?" Shirou nods in confirmation. "Well, if you ever need to talk with me or ask for some advice, just give me a call. It's about the one method of communication I can have with you outside of school that magi are unlikely to track..." If the Einzbern know just how good your relationship is with Shirou, that would definitely put your relationship with the boy in peril.

"Huh? what do you mean by 'likely to track', Shinji?" Shirou sounds worried for you. He really shouldn't be worried for you, and should be more concerned for his own safety, but that's just something he'll need to find for himself. Crippling survivors guilt and PTSD does that to a person... Though having a legendary artifact bonded with his body for a decade certainly didn't help matters much either. Thanks a bunch, Kerry.

"For the next two years or so, I'm going to be under pretty heavy suspicion by the... well the Einzbern. I've started to piece together a plan to save Illyasviel from them, but for every moment in which I interact with you in person, the more likely I am to be found out on it. Even now I don't really know if I'm being tailed, though I'm pretty certain I wasn't followed on my way here. I was paying extra attention, even more so than normally." Paranoia basically runs your life, after all. All this time spent keeping an eye out for Zouken has made you exceptional at keeping watch for people tailing you. Of course, when you were sprinting for your life from a horde of flesh eating insects, your perceptive skills took a pretty massive hit, so you were spotted in action by Giselle and god knows who else. You just hope that Gray and the Church managed to deal with all of the witnesses. The last thing you need is enforcers cracking down on you. "If you absolutely need to meet me in person though, I'll be at the Tohsaka Mansion for a while until I get my own place..." You grab a piece of paper and a pen and scribble down the address for Shirou in case he is in trouble. "Just go to the address written down there if you need help. While I might not be there, Rin will be glad to help you and to point you in my direction." Hopefully Shirou doesn't find himself in such a location and is strong enough by now to fend for himself, but in the worst case scenario you provide him a lifeline regardless.
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"Alright then. I understand." With that out of the way, you begin to leave the house. You really should have told Touko about what happened today already, as your teacher in magecraft, it's her right to know just what it is you're getting up to. Well, most of the time, at least. For as much as you trust Touko, you don't tell her nearly as much about what you know as you feel like you should. Then again, what's Touko going to do? While she investigated the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor and the Beast of Gaia in town, that's because anyone would want to discern what exactly the Princess of the Dead Apostles was seeking, especially if they might get caught up in things. Touko isn't Fuyuki's second owner, as she says quite a lot when she complains that Fuyuki is wasted on a family like the Tohsaka, the second greatest leylines in Japan and they go completely untapped. Then she normally laughs about how stupid it is for magi that wish for the Root to engage in a Battle Royale where collateral damage is a very real possibility. Pointing out that the Grail War basically destroyed the El-Melloi because apparently nobody is willing to take things seriously despite summoning beings that at the moment of their summoning are at least in the top one hundred or so most powerful beings active on the planet... Shishou really complains about how idiotic her fellow magi act too much... This coming from the woman who once tried to murder her sister because she was angry at her grandfather... She's matured a bit since she tried doing that, thankfully, but it's clear that she still has a pretty hostile relationship with Aoko regardless of how much she might have matured since that point. It's pretty difficult for both parties to get over trying to murder your own sister, regardless of circumstances... Rin.

"I'll see you... well, at school, I suppose, Shirou." Now that Zouken has been driven into hiding, you'll be able to attend school more often and rely on your puppet less. You'll be able to train with Touko about as much as you want from now on. You're facing far less restrictions now, giving you more free time than ever. You leave Shirou's house and begin walking to Garan no Dou until deciding to just call a taxi to take you there. Why walk when that would be so much faster? You probably should have though of this earlier when you were heading to the Einzbern Castle, actually, but you suppose that you automatically fell into the mindset of performing your usual exercise regime instead of one of making haste. It's getting late now though.
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Garan no Dou - Fuyuki Branch:

You step inside the abandoned looking building, and immediately head towards the stairs. Sometimes you feel like Touko uses the excuse of having the bottom floor appear deserted for the sole reason of having a giant garbage storage room. It's pretty impressive how unclean a worker that Touko is despite her immense intelligence. You suppose that when you're as busy as she makes herself, tidying up is one of the lowest priority tasks available. Still, you don't really like that you've basically become the unofficial janitor of Garan no Dou. You aren't even paid. In fact, you pay Touko!

You don't mind so much though, while she might not be physically training you, she's giving you an education in magecraft that you wouldn't be able to buy with all the money in the world... Well, you might, considering that it is Touko, but if she didn't see any sort of potential in a prospective student, you doubt that she would accept their money and teach them... She might accept their money and then disappear, you're really lucky that she's avoided attracting enforcers attempting to carry out a sealing designation on her. No amount of Bazett Fraga McRemitzes or Cornelius Albas will be capable of dragging Touko back to the Clocktower, though it would be funny seeing them try. In the end though, the only person on the planet capable of making Touko go along with a sealing designation is Touko herself. She's got so many puppet bodies that there would be no point in even trying to kill her to retrieve a sample of one of her bodies, she'd just come back and deal with the enforcer dumb enough to actually successfully manage to kill her with extreme prejudice.

You ascend the staircase up till you reach Touko's workshop, entering the room, you see that Touko is wearing her glasses as she inspects something in great detail, a calm and serene expression gracing her face. Oh no... You much prefer her when she's not wearing her glasses. "U-uh... Shishou?"

"Wakame-kun. Back from your rendezvous with that dead end of a homunculus construction factory? How did you find their complete disregard for human life?" Touko has a strange split personality disorder that you really can't explain. When her glasses are on, she has a friendly look on her face, but is cold and objective. But when she takes them off, she looks... pretty scary, actually. But is actually a kind person. "I noticed you trying to murder your grandfather today earlier too. How did that go?" She leaves you no room but to answer her with the complete truth.

"Relatively well, Shishou..." When Touko has her glasses on, you can only really hope that she'll eventually take them off. You much prefer your teacher in magecraft when she's being less... well, heartless. "Zouken is still alive, but I've managed to save Sakura by getting rid of the crest worms infesting her." Normally, this would be where Touko praises you, but not in this case.
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Touko is still focusing on whatever magical gizmo she's fiddling with as she gives you her response "A shame. I was kind of hoping that you'd be able to deal with him too. I suppose I'd give you a B+ if I had to grade that performance. There's still a lot of room for improvement, Wakame-kun." She's still an excellent teacher, glasses or not. So you can't complain too much. "And what about the Einzbern?" You don't actually remember telling Touko you were planning on visiting the Einzbern at all, but this woman may very well have devised a method to scry on you at a distance... Especially after you just... ran into Altrouge..

"Uh... I managed an alliance with them, but I don't know if it will truly hold up until the start of the Grail War."

"It's a shame, really." Touko begins to go off on a tangent. "The Einzbern... if they weren't so hung up on reclaiming Heavens Feel through the ridiculous death match they hold every so often, wouldn't really be that bad a magus family to interact with... But as things are, they really take advantage of their homunculus. It takes a certain level of callousness that a lot of magi wouldn't cross to create beings with actual human souls... or near enough to, to serve as slaves for life. Especially when things like golems exist. They don't even have the decency to give them lifespans longer than a few years normally, too." She's really going off on one now. "It's kind of funny that they have the resources to ensure that their homunculi could continue functioning for decades, yet simply discard them within a few years. They ought to be capable of creating perfect bodies for their homunculi to have their souls moved into instead of just creating new homunculi. I just don't get it at all, it's more cost effective this way too! The degradation of the soul normally doesn't truly begin to happen until it becomes a century or two old, at least!" The cold and objective side of Touko has been made visibly angry by how wasteful the Einzbern are. Not just with life, but with resources too! For somebody like her, who is basically always running on a tight budget, seeing such frivolous behavior must annoy her a great deal.

"Uh... Shishou. You're..." You inform the woman just how carried away she's getting by talking about her inferiors in magical skill. She must think pretty low of the Einzbern to get so heated about them, even with her glasses on.

She seems to realize just how carried away she's getting before she stops fiddling with her magical gizmo, takes off her glasses and her face somehow naturally morphs into a more hostile looking visage. "Oh. Apologies, Wakame-kun... Was there... anything else?" Her voice however is far more gentle.

>"Actually, I came here to thank you. For all that you've done for me."
>"That's all, Touko. I'll be back tomorrow.
>"I wanted to give you something in exchange for all the help you've given me. Anything you want."
>Hug Touko.
>Write-in...
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This was the last update before I go away, so in addition to voting on that, I would also like you to vote on these options.

Timeskip to...
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War
>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)
>Some other point in the future.

And for the focuses...
>Major Focuses (Thanks to dealing with Zouken and truly freeing up your schedule... Pick Four!)
>Minor Focuses (Pick Eight!)
>Magical Focuses (Pick Seven!)


Focuses:
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Who?)
>Continue training your Bajiquan abilities. (Unlikely to increase)
>Continue training your body physically. (Unlikely to increase)
>Learn another fighting style: (What style? Examples include archery, Kendo, throwing weapons, fencing, European swordplay, Firearms, etc.)
>Procure weaponry for the grail war. (Explosives? Guns? Black Keys? What are you after?)
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Get your drivers license.
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group.
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Improve your skill at cooking.
>Improve your charismatic ability. (Unlikely to increase)
>Learn a different miscellaneous skill. (Anything in mind?)
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phonecalls... and maybe e-mail.
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail War (Anything in particular you want?
>Write-in...

Magic Focuses:
>>Self Reinforcement.
>>Bounded Fields
>>Mystic Code Creation
>>Curses
>>Shared Perception
>>Advanced Hypnosis
>>Projection
>>Healing (Unlikely to increase)
>>Binding
>>Formalcraft
>>Summoning
>>Absorption
>>Transfer of Magical Energy
>>Manifestation of Truth (Unlikely to increase)
>>Manipulation of Truth (Unlikely to increase)
>>General Research on Truth (Unlikely to increase)
>>Counter-Magic
>>Rune Magic
>>Puppet Craft
>>Contract Magecraft
>>Reality Marble (Unlikely to increase)
>>Spiritual Surgery
>>Manipulation of Magic Crests
>>Control over your own Magical Energy
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>>Methods to survive your circuits at maximum power (Unlikely to increase)
>>Write-in...
>Just read through some of Touko's books and see what you find out.
>Just read through some of the Matou books and see what you find out.

I fully expect this to look like a disaster, but I don't really have the time left to stagger the votes. So this will probably be my last post until Tuesday. Be good while I'm gone, alright?
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>>4403375
Timeskip to...
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War

And for the focuses...
>Major Focuses (Pick Four!)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Learn another fighting style: (Firearms)
>Procure weaponry for the grail war. (Firearms and Black Keys.)
>Get your driver's license.

Minor Focuses
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
The other anons can fill this in.

Magic Focuses:
>>Self Reinforcement.
>>Control over your own Magical Energy
>>Methods to survive your circuits at maximum power
>>Counter Magic
>>Self Reinforcement
>Rune Magic
>Formalcraft
>Advanced Hypnosis.
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>>4403369
>"Actually, I came here to thank you. For all that you've done for me."
>>4403375
>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)
I'll leave focuses for others for now and just support a suggestion I like. Have fun on your camping trip.
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>>4403369
>>"I wanted to give you something in exchange for all the help you've given me. Anything you want."
>>Hug Touko.

>>4403375
>>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)

Major
>>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>>Get your drivers license.
>>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>>Learn another fighting style: (Kay Swordfighting)

Minor
>>Write-in (Try to find Kiara)
>>Go search for catalysts for the Grail War (Mystery Box)
>>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group.
>>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)

Magic
>>Rune Craft
>>Manipulation of Magic Crests
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>>Self-Reinforcement
>>Mystic Code Creation
>>Tracing
>>Spiritron Hacking
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>>4403375
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War

Major Focuses (Pick Four)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Learn another fighting style: (European swordplay)
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Improve your charismatic ability. (Unlikely to increase)

Minor Focuses (Pick Eight!)
>Get your drivers license.
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Continue training your Bajiquan abilities. (Unlikely to increase)
>Continue training your body physically. (Unlikely to increase)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group.

Magical Focuses (Pick Seven!)
>Bounded Fields
>Reality Marble (Unlikely to increase)
>Absorption
>Self Reinforcement.
>Counter-Magic
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>Just read through some of the Matou books and see what you find out.
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>"Actually, I came here to thank you. For all that you've done for me."

Timeskip to...
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War

And for the focuses...
>Major Focuses (Pick Four!)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phone calls... and maybe e-mail.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)

Minor Focuses
>Get your driver's license.
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>You know the original chant can be changed to Berserker but does their exist other variations for other classes?
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail War (Search for Servant catalysts you feel would give you a Servant that would agree and join you in your goals)
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group
>Procure weaponry for the grail war. (Explosives and Guns, specifically handguns or other guns easy to hide and carry.)
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem.

Magic Focuses:
>>Transfer of Magical Energy
>>Bounded Fields
>>Puppet Craft
>>Rune Magic
>>Self Reinforcement
>>Formalcraft
>>Control over your own Magical Energy

Wish I had at least one extra action, lol
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>>4403369
>Hug Touko.
>"I wanted to give you something in exchange for all the help you've given me. Anything you want."
>>4403375
Timeskip to...
>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)
Major Focuses
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Learn another fighting style: (Kiritsugu)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
Minor Focuses
>Get your drivers license.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail War (Foreigner)
>Write-in (Try to find Kiara)
Magic Focuses
>Just read through some of Touko's books and see what you find out.
>Just read through some of the Matou books and see what you find out.
>Control over your own Magical Energy
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>Counter-Magic
>Rune Magic
>Puppet Craft
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>>4403369
>Hug Touko.
>"Actually, I came here to thank you. For all that you've done for me."


>>4403375
Timeskip to...
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War

Major Focuses:
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Improve your charismatic ability. (Unlikely to increase)

Minor Focuses:
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Grey)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)

Magic Focuses:
>Self Reinforcement.
>Mystic Code Creation
>Counter-Magic
>Manipulation of Magic Crests
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>Just read through some of Touko's books and see what you find out.
>Just read through some of the Matou books and see what you find out.
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>>4403369
>Hug Touko

>>4403375
>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)

Major focuses
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phonecalls... and maybe e-mail.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Get your drivers license.

Minor focuses
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Monica)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.

Magic Focuses
>Self Reinforcement
>Bounded Fields
>Counter Magic
>Rune Magic
>Puppet Craft
>Spiritual Surgery
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
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>>4403369
>"I wanted to give you something in exchange for all the help you've given me. Anything you want."
>Hug Touko.

>>4403375
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War

Major Focuses (Pick Four)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.

Minor Focuses (Pick Eight!)
>Get your drivers license.
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phonecalls... and maybe e-mail.
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group
>Procure weaponry for the grail war. (Explosives and Guns, specifically handguns or other guns easy to hide and carry.)
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem.

Magical Focuses (Pick Seven!)
>Self Reinforcement.
>Bounded Fields
>Mystic Code Creation
>Absorption
>Counter-Magic
>Control over your own Magical Energy
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
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>>4403369
>"Actually, I came here to thank you. For all that you've done for me."
>Hug Touko

>>4403375
>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War
Major = 4
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
Minor = 8
>Get your drivers license.
>Improve your skill at cooking.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Learn another fighting style: (Kiritsugu)
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)
>Write-in (Try to find Kiara)
Magical = 7
>Reality Marble (Unlikely to increase)
>Just read through some of Touko's books and see what you find out.
>Just read through some of the Matou books and see what you find out.
>Rune Magic
>Counter-Magic
>Puppet Craft
>Bounded Fields
>>
I AM TRUTH GIVEN FORM

OUTER AND INNER BECOME ONE

I HAVE WITNESSED THE SET PATHS OF FATE

CREATION AND DESTRUCTION ARE MY CHANGE

WORD IS WORLD AND ART IS HEART

YET MY LONELY SIGNIFICANCE NONE CAN REACH

SO AS I LIVE, REALITY IS 「ALL FICTION」


Well?
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>>4403369
>"Actually, I came here to thank you. For all that you've done for me."
>>4403375
>>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)
Major
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Learn another fighting style: Gun-Fu
>Find evidence of Isekai Bro's past life in this world
Something I've wanted to do since forever, might get us a lead on the mistery of our existence.
Minor
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle) (x2)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Monica)(x2)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)(x2)
>Procure weaponry for the grail war. (GUNS)
>Get some nifty bikes
Magic
>>Puppet Craft
>>Bounded Fields(x2)
>>Projection(x2)
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training(x2)
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>>4403623
I don't like the last two lines and fourth line is iffy. The chants of reality marbles really have no reason to sound so alike.
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Is this the loli fate quest ?
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>>4403646
every fate quest is gonna have some loli bullshit anon, lot of anons are gunning for Illya
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>>4403646
I don't think there's any such thing buddy.
Yet.
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>>4403623
Be original with the name, don't rip off poor Kumagawa.
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>>4403646
The lolifag quest is one of the other 2.
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>>4403663
>>4403643
Then you guys come up with better ones?
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>>4403680
Infinite Void
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>>4403375
Timeskip to:
>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)

Major Focuses:
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Improve your charismatic ability. (Unlikely to increase)
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phone calls... and maybe e-mail.

Minor Focuses:
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem.
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail War (Teddy Roosevelt or Perseus)

Magic Focuses:
>Transfer of Magical Energy
>Spiritual Surgery
>Counter-Magic
>Bounded Fields
>Reality Marble (Unlikely to increase)
>Manipulation of Magic Crests
>Self Reinforcement.
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>>4403375
backing this
>4403717
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>>4403375
>>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Get your drivers license.
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group.
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail war (something from the panama canal)

>Focus on a relationship with a character (rin)
>>Learn another fighting style: (firearms)
>procure weapons (firearms)
>help sakura become more indepedent
>focus on shirous development as a magus
>learn to cook
>learn snake style
>learn to throw weapons (such as black keys)

>>Self Reinforcement.
>>Bounded Fields
>>Advanced Hypnosis
>>Rune Magic
>>Puppet Craft
>>Spiritual Surgery
>>Methods to survive your circuits at maximum power (Unlikely to increase)
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>>4403417
Backing
>>4403375
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>>4403375
>>4403587
I'll support this.
>>
No one has mentioned summoning or Monica. Sad
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We should start planning for how to deal with enemy Servants.
Mostly Gil and Herc.
We'll have Medusa and Saber on our side, hopefully.
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>>4404294
Herc isn't getting summoned buddy and Medusa isn't guaranteed either
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>>4403369
>"I wanted to give you something in exchange for all the help you've given me. Anything you want."
>Hug Touko.

>>4403375

Major Focuses:
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Ilya)
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)

Minor Focuses:
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Satsuki)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Get your drivers license.
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Continue training your body physically. (Unlikely to increase)
>Continue training your Bajiquan abilities. (Unlikely to increase)

Magic Focuses:
>Self Reinforcement.
>Bounded Fields
>Projection
>Rune Magic
>Puppet Craft
>Spiritual Surgery
>Shared Perception

If we're going to learn puppet craft we should also learn shared perception to get the most use out of them, and we should learn projection to make it easier to manifest truth objects.
>>
Why the hell are you guys choosing options that are unlikely to increase it's a freaking was of time and option.
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>>4404429
Autism
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>>4403375
Timeskip to a few weeks before GW

Major focuses focus on Monica, Illya, Sakura, search for a catalyst.

Minor focuses increase fortune, get drivers license, learn snake style, improve relationships with fujimura, improve cooking, learn French, learn a dead language, learn survival training

Magical focuses mystic code, summoning, control over own magical energy, magical energy efficiency, read some of Toukos books, read some of matous books, contract mage craft


There's a reason we have so many catalysts and saved those tomes and grimoires.
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>>4403836
>>4403375
I'll support, don't see any reason to up our relationships with anyone other than Rin since she kinda hates us and we're like at 70/100 with everyone else
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>>4405250

It seems some people don't like Rin? Which baffles me, since she isn't one of those horrible violent tsundere's. But still yea it still a good idea to up our relationship do we can have a easier time working together when needed.
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>>4405758
Illyafags, that's all you need to know. Also us teaming up with Shirou and Rin is golden to me
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>>4405797
I'm ambivalent about Ilya, but I don't like how Rin is treating us, which was like we weren't worth her time before we appeared at her house and as an obstacle to/rival for Sakura's affection after.
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>>4405802
I mean, I get it honestly, this isn't out of character for Rin, she got upset at Shirou when she found out about his relationship with Sakura, take that and crank it up 11 with us and Sakura. She's jealous that we have a relationship with Sakura she dreams of having and she doesn't know how to deal with those feelings. She has 2 years to cool off and actually be thankful that we brought Sakura right back to her instead of taking the myriad of other options we had at the time. She's a smart girl, she'll put 2 and 2 together and figure out that bringing Sakura back to her was for her sake just as much as it was for Sakura's sake too
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>>4405828
>I mean, I get it honestly, this isn't out of character for Rin
That doesn't make me like her more.
And if she changes in the future then maybe in the future I might like her more, but not currently.
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>>4405843
and that's probably not gonna change if we don't try to be the bigger man and reach out to her
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>>4405848
Tough luck for her.
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>>4405848
Rin is not worth the hassle
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>"I wanted to give you something in exchange for all the help you've given me. Anything you want."
>Hug Touko.

>A few weeks before the Fifth Holy Grail War

Major focuses
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phonecalls... and maybe e-mail.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Get your drivers license.

Minor focuses
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Monica)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.

Magic Focuses
>Self Reinforcement
>Bounded Fields
>Counter Magic
>Rune Magic
>Puppet Craft
>Spiritual Surgery
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
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>>4405874
I think she is

>>4405879
quote this to the post since there's gonna be like 15 different ones of these and QM is already gonna get a headache sorting through them and trying to make sense of it
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>>4405850
>>4405874
You might be retarded
>>
Rinfags rise up.
Let's seduce both sisters.
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>>4406000
Not even a rin fag but if you don’t think we should improve our relationship with a talented magus with a good heart you’re a total fucking retard
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>>4406000
Monica, sakura, illya and Manaka
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>>4406007
You are right. We definitely should improve our relationship with Zouken and remind him of the noble reasons and his good heart he has forgotten.
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>>4406018
not the same
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>>4405879
>>4403375
Great choices.
Support.
>>4406007
Yeah Rin is a good girl who just needs a hug and validation. She's probably just mad at herself most of all. Give her some time and she'll come around.
>>4406009
Any form of harem including Manaka is infinitely less likely than a harem of unlimited size not including Manaka.
She's the sort to kill women or girls if they even dare interact with her target once.
But good luck.
I'm gunning for a harem of at least ten girls so unless you can get her on board for that I'm opposed to waifuing her.
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>>4406105
>harem of at least ten girls
Jesus tap-dancing Christ, you don't believe in restraint, do you?
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>>4406107
Restraint is for the weak and the limp-wristed.
I am strong.
I suppose we'll have to choose a main wife though...
Sakura?
Illya?
Whoever our (hopefully female) servant ends up being?
Can you get Mordred as a class other than Saber?
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>>4406119
Illya's the one I'm rooting for. Sakura is for platonic brotherly love and care only. It's the loli grail we need to marry.
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>>4406127
There doesn't exist a man on this planet other than ourselves or Shirou who is good enough for Sakura.
And Shirou is getting Saber unless things go terribly wrong.
Saber totally overshadows both Rin and Sakura in Shirou's eyes anyway.
Fuck.
Taiga overshadows Rin. In her own route!
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>>4406154
That's just overly pessimistic. There's no reason the QM can't write an original character worthy of marrying Sakura. Even if he doesn't, a sense of obligation is just about the worst reason in the world to get into a romantic relationship.
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>>4406163
It's unlikely Sakura will ever love anyone other than us after all we've done.
We need to take responsibility and impregnate her.
A loli wife is a trophy wife anyway.
Illya is too undeveloped to have children
Manaka is only a loli because she's a zombie. No kids.
Loli Servants are Servants.
No kids.
I want a mighty army of children.
With our god tier genetics we'll sire the ultimate brood.
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>>4406181
I find your lack of faith in Illya disturbing. If she can put Shirou's soul into a doll, there's no way she can't figure out a way to enable herself to bear children.
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>>4406181
>>4406185
Just to go a little further. Illya is a god-tier magus and so are we, we know her body can be modified heavily by magecraft, so we can definitely fix her no kids problem.
Manaka has a connection to the root that makes her basically the greatest magus to ever live and near omnipotent. She's also a classic romantic and would definitely want kids. No way in hell she can't work out a way to make it happen.
Loli servants I'll give you. We can't have kids with those. The other 2, though, you're not selling me on your pessimism.
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>>4406185
>Figure out a way to enable herself to bear children
Yes anon, it's called transference of the soul.
Moving the soul around is just about the one thing magi can do with it.
How uninformed even are you?
Yes, Illya can have kids.
By you know, putting herself in an older body.
Cake Illya here we come!
>>4406188
Manaka would murder her children the moment they distracted us from her.
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So what's the bet that the grail war is gonna be fucked up?
Who's going to be responsible?
I bet the Einzbern are gonna sperge and try to summon a Ruler/Avenger/Foreigner/Grand/Beast or some other such fucking busted servant to fuck up Goldy.
How does Jalter stack up?
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>>4406356
>So what's the bet that the grail war is gonna be fucked up?
You mean besides shit already being fucked up with the introduction Tsukihime/Vampire Shit and different servants/different masters?
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>>4406371
If Altrouge became a master, who would she summon?
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>>4406597
>If Altrouge became a master, who would she summon?
No fucking clue, but I feel like she's more likely to send in one of her many goons then actually do anything herself.
Bonus points for the inevitable vampiric influence on the war calling back to that one dead Apostle fates quest where the MC summoned banana.
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>>4406356
I'm not entirely sure how the grail war would proceed at this point. Nasu once made it clear that tsukihime's an alternate timeline from the fsn universe, so Altrouge and Shiki's appearance are definitely unexpected
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I mean - assuming Altrouge used primate murder as a catalyst or it was linked to her somehow, she’d probably summon someone linked to it. Some version of Arthur / Merlin maybe. Other options include summoning some version of Zeltretch ( who all magic know saved the world from the king of the moon). On the other hand, it might be funny if the grail interpreted her as a catalyst for summoning a vampire and just summoned Dracula.
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>>4406597
Since Altrouge can fight all of the battles herself she could summon a servant she is interested in instead of only thinking of a strong servant - a person she knew before they died or a person that she wanted to meet but never could, if any such people exist.
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OP? You alive?
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>>4408424
He said he'll be back by tuesday.
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>>4403375
Timeskip to...
>The Mystic Eyes Collection Train: Rail Zeppelin (Case Files)

And for the focuses...
>Major Focuses (Pick Four!)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Get your driver's license.

Minor Focuses
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phone calls... and maybe e-mail.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Monica)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.

Magic Focuses:
>>Self Reinforcement.
>>Control over your own Magical Energy
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>>Absorption
>>Bounded Fields
>Rune Magic
>Formalcraft
>>
Spent the early morning in an autistic fugue state counting up the votes so far to see how things are going.
At the risk of inspiring samefaggotry or people changing their votes to something I'd personally find distasteful, here are my count:

Major Focus
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Get your driver's license.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)

Minor Focus
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Get your driver's license.
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem. (Tied with 7)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver) (Tied with 7)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki) (Tied with 7)

Magic Studies
>Self Reinforcement.
>Bounded Fields
>Counter Magic
>Rune Magic
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>Puppet Craft
>Spiritual Surgery

I'd post the list of tallies as WhatIsAQM does, but I feel that would be a bit too autistic. No need to spam up the thread with bullshit based on an unofficial early count.


I suppose I'm fine with this lineup. I don't think it's necessary to spend this much time on our driver's license and given that we are already guaranteed to be billionaires by the start of the war, I don't really see a need to spend a major focus on getting even richer, or any focus on it for that matter.
What's really got me rolling my eyes is Spiritual Surgery getting time over something like researching Zouken's magical tombs or Manipulating Magical Crests. Sakura is already saved fellas, what's the big idea behind this play? No seriously, someone please explain. I'm not being sarcastic here, what the hell are you guys thinking?
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>>4408713
At a guess about spiritual surgery: probably something we have some experience with already, and a way to save Illia
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>>4408713
Terrible lineup. Anons voted to do pointless shit. Same as it ever was.
>>
You're all terrible people
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Illya bros we need to give QM our energy
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>>4408713
I thought spiritual surgery would go well with our healing.
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>>4408978
But why would we need it anymore.
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>>4408713
Maybe this'll just seem like salt because nothing I voted for ended up winning, but can anyone tell me why they put down driver's license as a major focus? Minor is understandable, but you really don't need to spend that much time over a 2 year period learning to drive. I just don't see the reasoning.
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>>4408993
because driving is epic. Imagine the cool shit we could do with a car
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>>4408986
Some anons were talking about how we might need it for the lesser grail shit inside Illya and Sakura.
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>>4408993
Maybe they want to show off Riding: C to Medusa.
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>>4409003
No, but I want to show off Riding: D to Medusa
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>>4409015
I don't think Medusa has one of those for us to ride.
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>>4409019
She can put her class specialty to use on us, take lessons from Medb in F/GO
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>not a single vote about Illya is winning
What the fuck.
>>
Major Focuses:
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Ilya)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)

Minor Focuses:
>Increase your fortune as much as you can.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Satsuki)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Get your drivers license.
>Continue training your body physically. (Unlikely to increase)
>Continue training your Bajiquan abilities. (Unlikely to increase)
>Improve your charismatic ability. (Unlikely to increase)

Magic Focuses:
>>Spiritual Surgery
>>Reality Marble
>>Puppet Craft
>>Control over your own Magical Energy
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>>Mystic Code Creation
>>Manipulation of Magic Crests
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I really do wonder how Medusa will react to us actually.
Will she see us as a true hero for saving Sakura?
Can we use our cheatcode magic to rez Stheno and Euryale?
Actually wait.
Scratch that.
I don't actually want those annoying runts around.
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>>4409096
You should probably link that to >>4403375, to make sure it doesn't get missed when the votes are counted.
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>>4409096
Why did you choose so many (unlikely to increase) options?
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>>4409101
Think he's one of the retards who doesn't know how to reply
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Bros I want to fuck Sakura so bad...
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>>4409172
Reminder the illya fags are rigging the votes
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>>4409177
Faggots.
Don't worry.
I'll counter rig to suplex that bitch right off of Fuyuki Bridge.
Manaka too, if that evil cunt dares show her face.
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>>4409177
>2 posts by this ID
>Illya losing the current vote
Smells like bullshit to me.
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>>4409177
What are you talking about? I don't think Illya has even made it to the minor focuses yet.
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I am back from camping now and I might even be able to get an update done today... maybe.
It's going to be an awfully long one, and I still need to tally...
Hopefully I'll be able to get it written.
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>>4409279
how was camping chief
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>>4409280
Pretty fun.
There are an alarming amount of people around not wearing face masks.
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>>4409283
Well it’s camping I wouldn’t expect them to
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First up is the Timeskip vote
>A few weeks before the grail war
>>4403402
>>4403417
>>4403418
>>4403535
>>4403587
>>4403607
>>4403836
>>4403879
>>4404256
>>4404440
>>4405879
>>4406105


>Mystic Eyes Collection Train
>>4403403
>>4403409
>>4403443
>>4403553
>>4403631
>>4403717
>>4403806
>>4408465

Looks like we're locked in for the Grail War then.
I think that's the correct tally anyway.
Do you at least want to maybe give Waver a message or a note so he can solve the events without unnecessary amounts of murder happening first?
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>>4409305
I wasn't always at the camp site, anon.
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>>4409306
Give Waver a message.
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>>4409306
>Do you at least want to maybe give Waver a message or a note so he can solve the events without unnecessary amounts of murder happening first?
Yes!
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>>4409306
Yeah sure. Any help we can give him without spending to much of our personal time on it.
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>>4409279
Would you like me to post the tally I did while you were gone?
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>>4409306
>Do you at least want to maybe give Waver a message or a note so he can solve the events without unnecessary amounts of murder happening first?
yes
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>>4409313
That would be quite nice.
Thank you, anon.
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>>4409306
>Do you at least want to maybe give Waver a message or a note so he can solve the events without unnecessary amounts of murder happening first?
yeah
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>>4409316
Based, he's what I got.

Main Focuses
>Increase your fortune as much as you can. 8
>>4403402 >>4403418 >>4403443 >>4403587 >>4403607
>>4404256 >>4404413 >>4408465
>Learn another fighting style: (Firearms) 2
>>4403402 >>4403631
>Procure weaponry for the grail war. (Firearms and Black Keys.) 1
>>4403402
>Get your driver's license. 8
>>4403402 >>4403409 >>4403553 >>4403836 >>4405250
>>4405879 >>4406105 >>4408465
>>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki. 17
>>4403409 >>4403417 >>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403553
>>4403587>>4403631 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403836
>>4403879 >>4404256>>4404413 >>4405250 >>4405879
>>4406105 >>4408465
>>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent. 5
>>4403409 >>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403631>>4409096
>>Learn another fighting style: (Kay Swordfighting) 1
>>4403409
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya) 9
>>4403417 >>4403587 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403879
>>4404256 >>4404413 >>4409096 >>4404440
>Learn another fighting style: (European swordplay) 3
4403417 >>4403806 >>4403879
>Improve your charismatic ability. (Unlikely to increase) 5
4403417 >>4403535 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403879
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura) 11
>>4403418 >>4403553 >>4403587 >>4403607 >>4404256
>>4404413 >>4405879 >>4406105 >>4408465 >>4409096
>>4404440
>Focus on helping Shirou's development as a magus... Through phone calls... and maybe e-mail. 7
>>4403418 >>4403553 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4405879
>>4406105 >>4406105
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin) 1
>>4403418
>Learn another fighting style: (Kiritsugu) 1
>>4403443
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko) 2
>>4403535 >>4409096
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin) 1
>>4403607
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle) 1
>>4403607
>Find evidence of Isekai Bro's past life in this world 1
>>4403631
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group. 2
>>4403836 >>4405250
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail war (something from the panama canal) 2
>>4403836 >>4405250
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail war 1
>>4404440
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Monica) 1
>>4404440
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>>4409316
Minor Focus
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent. x8? 1
>>4403402
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent. 15
>>4403402 >>4403417 >>4403418 >>4403535 >>4403553
>>4403587>>4403607>>4403717>>4403806>>4403836
>>4403879>>4404256>>4405250>>4405879>>4406105
>>(Try to find Kiara) 3
>>4403409 >>4403443>>4403607
>>Go search for catalysts (Mystery Box) 2
>>4403409 >>4403418
>>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group. 7
>>4403409 >>4403417 >>4403418 >>4403587>>4403879
>>4404256 >>4404440
>>Increase your fortune 6
>>4403409>>4403417>>4403879>>4408465 >>4409096
>>4404440
>>Focus on (Giselle) 12
>>4403409>>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403553>>4403631
>>4403717>>4403806>>4404413>>4405879>>4406105
>>4408465 >>4409096
>>Focus on (Sacchin) 13
>>4403409 >>4403417 >>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403553
>>4403717>>4403806>>4403879>>4404413>>4405879
>>4406105>>4408465 >>4409096
>>Focus on (Touko) 16
>>4403409 >>4403417 >>4403418 >>4403443 >>4403535
>>4403553>>4403587>>4403607>>4403717>>4403806
>>4403879>>4404256>>4404413>>4405879>>4406105
>>4408465
>>Focus on (Rin) 12
>>4403409 >>4403443 >>4403553 >>4403587>>4404256
>>4408465>>4403717 >>4403806>>4403836>>4405250>>4405879
>>4406105
>Get your drivers license. 10
>>4403417 >>4403418 >>4403443>>4403587>>4403607
>>4403879>>4404256>>4404413>>4409096 >>4404440
>Training your Bajiquan abilities. 3
>>4403417>>4403879>>4404413>>4409096
>Training your body physically. 3
>>4403417>>4403879>>4404413>>4409096
>Learn Summoning chants? 1
>>4403418
>Procure weaponry (Explosives and Guns, specifically handguns or other guns easy to hide and carry.) 6
>>4403418 >>4403587>>4403631>>4403836>>4404256
>>4405250
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem. 7
>>4403418 >>4403443 >>4403587>>4403607>>4403717
>>4403806>>4404256
>Go search for catalysts (Foreigner) 1
>>4403443
>Focus on (Waver) 7
>>4403535 >>4403553 >>4403607 >>4403631 >>4405879
>>4406105 >>4408465
>Focus on (Grey) 1
>>4403535
>Focus on (Kuzuki) 8
>>4403535 >>4403553 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4404413
>>4405879 >>4406105 >>4409096
>Focus on (Monica) 5
>>4403553 >>4403631 >>4405879>>4406105>>4408465
>Focus on helping Shirou's 5
>>4403587 >>4403836 >>4404256 >>4405250 >>4408465
>Improve your skill at cooking. 3
>>4403607 >>4403836>>4405250 >>4404440
>Learn another fighting style: (Kiritsugu) 1
>>4403607
>Focus on (Giselle) (x2) 1
>>4403631
>Focus on (Monica)(x2) 1
>>4403631
>Focus on (Waver)(x2) 1
>>4403631
>Get some nifty bikes 1
>>4403631
>Go search for catalysts for the Grail War (Teddy Roosevelt or Perseus) 2
>>4403717 >>4403806
>Learn another fighting style: (firearms) 2
>>4403836>>4405250
>learn snake style 3
>>4403836 >>4405250 >>4404440
>learn to throw weapons (such as black keys) 2
>>4403836>>4405250
>Improve your charisma 1
>>4409096
Learn French 1
>>4404440
Learn a dead Language 1
>>4404440
Learn Survival training 1
>>4404440
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>>4409316
Magic
>>Self Reinforcement. 17
>>4403402 >>4403409 >>4403417 >>4403418 >>4403535
>>4403553 >>4403587 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403836
>>4405250 >>4403879 >>4404256 >>4404413 >>4405879
>>4406105 >>4408465
>>Control over your own Magical Energy 8
>>4403402 >>4403418 >>4403443 >>4403587 >>4404256
>>4408465 >>4409096 >>4404440
>>Methods to survive your circuits at maximum power 3
>>4403402 >>4403836 >>4405250
>>Counter Magic 13
>>4403402 >>4403417 >>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403553
>>4403587 >>4403607 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403879
>>4404256 >>4405879 >>4406105
>Rune Magic 12
>>4403402 >>4403409 >>4403418 >>4403443 >>4403553
>>4403607 >>4403836 >>4405250 >>4404413 >>4405879
>>4406105 >>4408465
>Formalcraft 3
>>4403402 >>4403418 >>4408465
>Advanced Hypnosis. 3
>>4403402 >>4403836 >>4405250
>>Manipulation of Magic Crests 4
>>4403409 >>4403535 >>4403717 >>4403806
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training 13
>>4403409 >>4403417 >>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403553
>>4403587 >>4403631 >>4403879 >>4404256 >>4405879
>>4406105 >>4408465 >>4409096
>>Mystic Code Creation 6
>>4403409 >>4403535 >>4403587 >>4404256 >>4409096
>>4404440
>>Tracing 1
>>4403409
>>Spiritron Hacking 1
>>4403409
>Bounded Fields 16
>>4403417 >>4403418 >>4403553 >>4403587 >>4403607
>>4403631 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403836 >>4405250
>>4403879 >>4404256 >>4404413 >>4405879 >>4406105
>>4408465
>Reality Marble (Unlikely to increase) 6
>>4403417 >>4403607 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403879
>>4409096
>Absorption 5
>>4403417 >>4403587 >>4403879 >>4404256 >>4408465
>Just read through some of the Matou books and see what you find out. 6
>>4403417 >>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403607 >>4403879
>>4404440
>>Transfer of Magical Energy 3
>>4403418 >>4403717 >>4403806
>>Puppet Craft 11
>>4403418 >>4403443 >>4403553 >>4403607 >>4403631
>>4403836 >>4405250 >>4404413 >>4405879 >>4406105
>>4409096
>Just read through some of Touko's books and see what you find out. 4
>>4403443 >>4403535 >>4403607 >>4404440
>Spiritual Surgery 9
>>4403553 >>4403717 >>4403806 >>4403836 >>4405250
>>4404413 >>4405879 >>4406105 >>4409096
>>Bounded Fields(x2)
>>4403631
>>Projection(x2)
>>4403631
>>Magical Energy Efficiency Training(x2)
>>4403631
>>Projection
>>4403631 >>4404413
>Shared Perception
>>4404413
>Summoning
>>4404440
>Contract Magecraft
>>4404440
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>>4409316
So unless I fucked up somewhere, which I did the first time I did this count, >>4404440 Fuck you, what is this formating? Then the final totals should be:

Major
>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can. (Tied with 8)
>Get your driver's license. (Tied with 8)

Minor
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin)
>Get your drivers license.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group. (Tied with 7)
>Try to help Rin out with her money problem. (Tied with 7)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver) (Tied with 7)

Magic
>Self Reinforcement
>Bounded Fields
>Counter Magic
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>Rune Magic
>Puppet Craft
>Spiritual Surgery
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>>4409326
>>4409337
>>4409339
>>4409345
My brain probably would have melted down trying to make sense of that
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>>4409345
We really should have just voted for 12 options and had them be sorted into major/minor based on what got the most votes.
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>>4409358
>We really should have just voted for 12 options
Based
>had them be sorted into major/minor based on what got the most votes.
Cringe
Just have it be two votes.
One to cut the number of options down and one to figure out what people want to focus on out of cut down options.
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>>4409371
>One to cut the number of options down and one to figure out what people want to focus on out of cut down options.
Yeah, this would be better.
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>>4409345
Seeing as you voted double on your licence I'll upgrade it to major for free and ignore the tie.

>Learn Snake Style from Kuzuki.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sakura)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Illya)
>Increase your fortune as much as you can. (Tied with 8)
>Get your driver's license. (Tied with 8)

That's 5d125 bo4

>Focus on a relationship with a character (Touko)
>Attempt to help Sakura become more independent.
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Sacchin)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Giselle)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Rin) (Help out with money problems.)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Kuzuki)
>Attempt to improve your relationship with the Fujimura Group. (Tied with 7)
>Focus on a relationship with a character (Waver) (Tied with 7)

8d90 Bo4

>Self Reinforcement
>Bounded Fields
>Counter Magic
>Magical Energy Efficiency Training
>Rune Magic
>Puppet Craft
>Spiritual Surgery

7d200 Bo5
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Rolled 11, 78, 58, 87, 49 = 283 (5d125)

>>4409417
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Rolled 77, 32, 26, 34, 12 = 181 (5d125)

>>4409417
Major?
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