You are Alberich, newly minted familiar to a magus. Two weeks ago you were an ordinary student. Since then you've been transformed into a superhuman fighter, reliant on a steady supply of mystic energy to survive.11 days ago, you woke up in a collapsing parking garage in the middle of a burning city. You later learned that you were one of 1,050 people who'd been summoned and reduced to 7 chosen fighters dubbed Masters. These Masters were compelled to make contracts with powerful spirits of past heroes known as Servants, and with the aid of their Servants to battle until only one remained. This final survivor would win a single wish from the omnipotent Holy Grail, in the battle known as the Holy Grail War.In the course of the War, you learned a variety of new things. That Magic is real, for example, and that there is a global association of magi dedicated to its research, study, and to keeping magic a secret. That at one time, thousands of years ago, the gods of paganism walked the earth, and most ancient myths are at least partially true. How to properly sucker-punch a man. This last lesson proved particularly useful.In the end, after taking victory in the War, you discovered that the entire thing was a farce, a front, a con. It was a ruse designed to collect 1,050 willing sacrifices to kill each other. In fact, the administrator of your Holy Grail War was a participant in a separate, real Holy Grail War, and had planned this mass sacrifice to collect enough magical energy to ensure his victory in that war. You, however, with a few other survivors, were able to kill him and dispel the magic keeping you prisoner in the world of the Grail War, a private dimension entitled the Akeldama.Unfortunately for you, escaping from the Akeldama carries with it a particular responsibility. The orchestrator of the Akeldama Grail War was a Servant, the spirit of Judas Iscariot, bound to the service of one Jean-Pierre Vaisset. Now you, having killed him and absorbed the energy harvested by the Akeldama, you've taken on the superhuman powers and bound nature of a Servant. It is the magic energy supplied to you by your Master which keeps you alive, and he holds three command spells, absolute orders which can compel you to take any one action. In the day since you became a Servant, you've set about beginning your fight to survive and take the Holy Grail. You've come to terms with your Master about the uneasy bond between the two of you and had occasion to meet a few strange people: a family of survivors from the previous War and a little girl who seems to be the one organizing it. They had a great deal to tell you about the War, and as news reaches you of the final Servant's summoning things seem stranger than ever...Previous thread: >>3491019Suptg Archive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Sweets-Loving%20QMStatus Information:https://pastebin.com/qsKX4p5b
Kyoutenkan Academy - November 14, Thursday, 17:00SwishCrack!ChingSwishCrack!ChingSwishCrack!ChingKajiwara Haruo was practicing batting. The ball came at him with a Swish, struck his bat with a Crack!, and hit home on the chain-link with a Ching. This was the routine; one of the many baseball routines that had filled Haruo's afternoons and evenings for three years. He was staying late, and would stay much later, after all the other players had gone home, continuing to polish his skills. This wasn't because he was a poor baseball player. He was, in fact, the best on the team; a teenage star, shining in the miniature firmament afforded to young people who excelled their peers. It wasn't because he loved the game that he practiced late either; not exactly, anyway. Although it was the thing in his life which he was most devoted to, Haruo loved baseball only by comparison. The subject of that comparison was his family.The Kajiwaras had been court nobles and onmyouji a long time ago, attendants of the emperor in the Heian era. When the imperial throne fell from power and took the nobles with it, they had skillfully evaded this fall and entered the service of the Minamoto shogun instead. This, too, passed, but with each change of political regime in Japan the Kajiwara family had managed to retain most of its power. The nobles were replaced by the samurai, the samurai by the ministers, and finally the ministers by the capitalists, but no apocalyptic fall had come to the Kajiwara. Instead they had declined by slow degrees, and still lived today as a comfortably upper-middle-class family supported by the income of several properties scattered around Japan. Much as they had adapted to secular power-shifts, the Kajiwara house had quickly oriented themselves when the Mages' Association first came to Japan. While numerous other old onmyou houses took the attitude of staunch traditionalism and rejected the foreign magi, the Kajiwara joined the Tohsaka, the Shijou, and others in quickly entering into the international community. They had been members in good standing of the Association since the Meiji Restoration, and continued to quietly build on their own heritage of magic up until the present day. Up until this troublesome heir, at any rate.The Kajiwara family was adaptable. It was dedicated. It had a long past, and would have a long future. All of that, Haruo thought bitterly as he smacked another ball, was bullshit. It was the iron rail his father had laid out for his life, and he'd rather die than go down it. He wanted the freedom to choose his life for himself, and he'd chosen baseball!
Of course, this was the emotional self-delusion common in young people. Haruo's actual reasons for rejecting magic weren't so high-minded as a spiritual lust for freedom. He simply couldn't stand the exercise of learning magic. It was tiresome, difficult, confusing, and often painful, and by the age of eleven Haruo had had all he could take. So he'd set about finding some other purpose for his life. He'd tried being a diligent student, but fell asleep too often when he was intending to focus. He'd tried musical instruments, only to discover that he had no musical sense. Finally he tried sports, and in these he had excelled. In the end, Haruo settled on baseball, and he'd spent his entire time in high school using it to escape his responsibilities as the Kajiwara family heir. Now eighteen, he figured he was onto a pretty good thing, though his parents maintained that he'd see the light eventually.SwishCrack!ChingSwishCrack!ChingThat was why, as the sun sank lower and lower, Haruo continued endlessly batting. His parents wouldn't simply give up now that he'd found a new passion. Oh no, they maintained that any time he didn't spend doing anything else productive, he could spend learning the family trade. If he wanted to keep away from magic, he had to stay at school, practicing baseball until well-after dark, until it was too late not to return home for dinner. Even then he'd have to spend some time on the damned stuff before bed, but at least this way it was kept to a minimum. SwishCrack!ChingSwishCrack!ChingEventually, as was often the case, Haruo found it impossible to keep his mind on the exercise. His body shifted over completely to muscle memory, and rumors from school swirled through Haruo's mind as he sought something interesting to occupy his thoughts. There was the strange story that one of the younger girls, an underclassman named Shijou Ayaka, had shown up to school with a butler. Of course, from Haruo's perspective nothing Shijou did could truly be all that strange. After all, the Shijou family was the Second Owner of the area, the administrators of magic. Whether she had some foreign magus in town on Association business and playing a role for laughs or they'd thought up some weird new kind of man-shaped familiar, anything was possible with a Shijou.
Then there was the disappearance of Student Council President Yumigawa. Yumigawa was a third-year, like Haruo, and for a long time Haruo had entertained a feeling of distant rivalry with the other boy. They were the two most popular male students at Kyoutenkan, after all, and opposite types; one the withdrawn, disciplined politician and the other the hot-blooded athlete. Whatever their differences, Haruo and Yumigawa had taken on similar roles for the girls at school, and Haruo often heard whatever rumors surrounded Yumigawa. Now, for the first time anyone could remember (in his entire life, according to one girl who'd followed him through schools since elementary) Yumigawa had been absent. What was trivial for anyone else, Haruo thought dryly, made the headlines when it was the star student. But even he had to wonder, just what had happened to Mr. Perfect Attendance? If he'd kept a record that long, why break it now?He couldn't think about other people forever. Inevitably, Haruo's mind came around to worry at the same subject that had been freaking him out for weeks, like your tongue unconsciously probing a toothache. The red bruise on his right hand. It had shown up about two weeks ago, and at first Haruo had just assumed he'd smacked it on something. Since then, though, it had just kept getting worse. Brighter red, more defined, just plain strange. Worse, it was starting to look like some kind of magic symbol. Haruo couldn't stand the thought of having to go to his parents about it, and he'd kept it hidden from them up until now. He was half-sure this was another ploy from Dad, trying to get Haruo into magic by subterfuge. It wasn't going to happen, but all the same... the mark kept worrying him.SwishCrack!ChingSwishCrack!Smack.A flat, fleshy noise in the shadows. It had gotten dark, and Haruo was used to observing the ball's impact by the sound of it hitting the chain-link. This time, it hadn't done so. Haruo took a step forward towards the fence, and stopped. Something in him was holding him back, telling him not to go ahead.
Out of the shadows at the end of the ballfield stepped a man quite out of place in the schoolyard. He was a bronzed figure out of myth, six feet tall and incredibly broad, covered in steely muscle. The man wore some kind of ancient armor that outlined the exact shape of his body, with a metal skirt and sandals that laced up his legs. Black eyes framed by curly black hair and beard stared out of that bronze visage. A sense of animal dread took hold of Haruo, an overwhelming intuition that this wasn't a man at all, holding up the ball he'd caught, but a monster in human shape. Haruo didn't run, though. Those eyes seemed to pin him down, hold him like a rodent caught in the gaze of a snake. The man grinned, and a silky-smooth, cloyingly sweet female voice came from behind Haruo."You shouldn't hit balls into the dark, young man," the unseen woman chided warmly. "Imagine if you'd hit my friend, instead of him catching it. He could have been hu~rt." The last syllable was dragged out into a croon, as if the woman savored the prospect of the warrior being harmed. The woman spoke with a soft kansai accent that put Haruo in mind of biwa players, producing subtle entertainment to fill slow hours for the idle court. Haruo's mind spun uselessly, trying to think and come up with some answers as to these people, but he couldn't think. Not with those terrible eyes boring into him, not with the dread that the man would spring forward and-"Grab him, Archer," the woman commanded. "Let us see if this is the one."Haruo couldn't see the man move. He only blurred, the baseball falling from where his hand had been, and then the side of Haruo's face was pressed down into the dirt. Haruo's head was wrapped up in one corded bronze hand, his right arm held out in the other. The man held him in place, gripping so hard that Haruo feared his wrist would snap, but apparently without rancor as he leaned down and spoke into Haruo's ear, in a friendly, level tone. "Boy, don't try to fight me here. Neither one of us will like what happens if you struggle." Haruo went limp.With his head now pressed down on its side, Haruo finally saw the woman as she bent to examine his right hand. She had black hair that fell beside her face in gentle waves, a creamy complexion, and elegant, refined features. Her body too captured his gaze, as it was voluptuously curved and put on display by a clinging silk dress. Put simply, Haruo found himself captivated even as he was terrified; a shiver of two kinds ran through him as her long fingernails traced the mark on his hand. Then she turned to face him, and said softly, "You are very lucky, young man. Because of this mark, you have the wonderful opportunity to help me obtain the Holy Grail."
Shijou Manor - November 15, Friday, 1:00You briefly consider advising Vaisset to make a prompt attack on the enemy, but decide there are just too many unknown factors. After all, the first one to look for foes in the Akeldama was that war's Saber, and he was also the first to die. No, better to be cautious. "I imagine the other Masters will be out prowling the city if the war's begun," you say. "For tonight we should remain here. I'll guard you and your sister, while your familiars survey the city and collect the information we need to make any real plans.""Well, that seems reasonable enough," Vaisset muses. Then he sits up, struck by an idea. "Say, Saber," he says, "You've just reminded me. On that subject of scouting, what did you find on your expedition tonight?">[ ] What do you tell him? (Write in)
>>3525373IT'S TIME>"A girl had been following me along with an old man. She said her name was Lilliesviel von Einzbern, she had confused me for another one like her...but the old man I believe was a Servant. Just wasn't entirely sure."
>>3525373Well shit. Looks like Archer('s master) is going to be a pain in the ass this time around, too.Based on the armor, he's almost certainly Greek or Roman, but I'm not quite sure which.At least it's not another Cowboy Man.>>3525390Supporting.
Hmm.... should we bring up Shirou?
>>3525460No. The Emiya family is set to be our secret weapon in this war. Vaisset doesn't need to know about them. Not unless circumstances change, at least.
>>3525373We probably ought to tell him everything. He has eyes everywhere right?
>>3525505I doubt it. This is Tokyo, and he's not Caster. Having that sort of coverage should be nearly impossible. Unless he's decided we need special supervision, he's probably not going to watch us. We ARE his familiar, after all. In his mind, we're part of his reconnaissance team rather than an enemy to be observed by it.
>>3525523It'd be hard not to notice Shirou and his family considering how powerful they are
>>3525526Unless they were hiding.Shirou is pursuing the Einzberns, after all, so he probably has a way to make sure the Einzberns don't just sniff him out, send their Servant in there and mop up afterward.
>>3525535He goes to the market without doing anything to conceal his magical energy
>>3525538We were right in front of him and also a Servant.
>>3525526Servants can sense other Servants (and probably Shirou because a Third Sorcery existence is basically a Servant existence), but magi can't necessarily detect other magi like Servants can detect each other. For the most part, they only know relatively where the others are because magi who want to live somewhere have to register with the Second Owner. Kiritsugu successfully hid from the Tohsakas in Fuyuki, so I doubt Shirou would have much trouble hiding from Vaisset in Tokyo, especially since he's not really a mage.If the Emiya family is really as noticeable as you're suggesting they are, then he already knows about them and there's no point in bringing it up.>>3525538Yeah, because he doesn't need to.
>>3525420>Well shit. Looks like Archer('s master) is going to be a pain in the ass this time around, too.Oh yes, I hope to have a lot of fun with Haruo and his new crush.>>3525390>"A girl had been following me along with an old man. She said her name was Lilliesviel von Einzbern, she had confused me for another one like her...but the old man I believe was a Servant. Just wasn't entirely sure."Now, this is inconsistent with what you said to Vaisset before about having found a large source of energy while scanning and going off to investigate. Are you being intentionally inconsistent?
>>3525420>he's almost certainly Greek or RomanIt's Odysseus with that huge bow only he could string.
>>3525566>players prioritizing their own feelings toward canon characters over how the main character would reasonably feel about themWhere have I seen this before? Oh wait, that's every time popular canon characters are used in fanfic quests. Why are we concealing Shirou and his family's existence? This shoulda just stayed OC only, or at least avoided the big F/SN names. Players are gonna vote to protect them at all costs and work with them no matter what. Shits annoying. They'll retroactively make up other justifications for why they do so but it's all bullshit.
>>3525587>Implying Fuck off anon, they’re useful for acquiring IC information Alberich has no right to know. “Protecting” them, what a load of bullshit. As if Vaisset could do anything when they’d wreck Alberich ezpz in most situations.
>>3525566I suppose we could tell him we found not just one large source of energy, but several other servant-tier entities as well and decided to know our limits.
If somebody wants to write up an explanation that lines up with your earlier claim of chasing an energy source, go ahead. Otherwise, I'll run with >>3525390 for tomorrow morning's update.
>>3525641Does anyone have a good explanation that would satisfy him? We might be able to explain it as finding the Einzberns, because Lilisviel is definitely the Lesser Grail and that guy is probably a Servant unless he's Acht.
>>3525641>"During my scouting I noticed a vehicle being driven by 4 people of immense magical energy. There was a girl, she had the most magical energy of the four of them, I caught a glimpse of them too, the girl with the most magical energy had white hair and red eyes and an older man, he also had white hair, but blue eyes. The other two I didn't get a chance to see their faces. I followed them for a while in hopes of confirming their status of a Master or the class of their servant but unfortunately I was unable from a distance. I considered confronting them but the possibility it was a trap to lure in enemy servants was too high. I instead opted to watch for suspicious activity."
Also, should we give him our name? On the one hand he won't trust us fully unless he knows our name, but on the other he'll know we're an irregular Servant.I'm completely certain nobody wants to, but asking anyway to get it on the record.
>>3525693>the girl with the most magical energy had white hair and red eyes and an older man, he also had white hair, but blue eyesThat seems like a little too much detail for somebody that was "unable (to confirm) from a distance".
... at least for somebody who was watching a vehicle from a distance and isn't an Archer.
>>3525720We're a servant. He probably won't think twice about it.
>>3525723What I'm saying is that the narrative is inconsistent. How would we know the color of the girls/mans eyes while watching from a distance; just how little was this distance and (presumably) through a car window? I think it would be best to not mention any such details.
>>3525727Just say that the two got out of the car to explore a market on the girls whimsical suggestion.
>>3525729This could work, if Vaisset asks us "why whimsical", we could just say that she looked cheery or something.
>>3525727Why are we even lying in the first place?
>>3525749Considering that he's the one who got us in this mess in the first place, and has thusfar done nothing to gain our goodwill, why should we trust him?
Then again, Jean has familiars all over the city, not enough to know everything but I'm sure he knows something.
>>3525761>>he's the one who got us in this mess in the first place>not Judas, but rather the guy who was only indirectly and unwittingly responsible and had no idea how Aleldama even worked>>has done nothing to gain our goodwillHe's done nothing to gain our ill will either.And if he finds out we lied to him about something this important, you can expect him to consider using a Command Spell to keep us under control. By contrast, if we tell him as much of the truth as our own goals permit he could actually help us win the War.
>>3525772>command spell to keep us under control >thinking vague command spells with indefinite durations do anything >to a servant with B magic resistance at thatDon't be stupid. We explained how Akeldama worked somewhat and he didn't care.
>>3525775Look man, Alberich isn't the nicest guy in the world either. But Vaisset is our master and if we fuck up our working relationship with him this early then we're completely fucked.
>>3525775>implying he'll use a vague permanent spell when he knows enough about the War to know about Heaven's Feel
Okay, what would be a convincing half-truth? We:Don't need to mention the Emiyas, they should be a need-to-know.Cannot lie about location; Sean could easily have a familiar wherever.Should mention the limousine.Probably should mention the Einzbern and her Servant.
>>3525798We could tell him that following the energy led us to a Servant that briefly attacked us before backing off. Shortly thereafter we encountered the Einzbern limo and decided to take advantage of their apparent misunderstanding rather than continue pursuing the Servant. It's certainly not a lie, but Vaisset will want a description of her and the Emiya family might end up involved as a result unless we can come up with a convincing reason we couldn't see her or just lie about what she looked like.Alternatively, we could try something like >>3525599 suggests, but then Vaisset will almost certainly put the area under observation.>>3525566>He thinks with his dickHARUOOOOO>>3525583What makes you think that?
>>3526080What's wrong with Vaisset keeping tabs on them? They're not even our allies. We need to win this grail war and Shirou and company want to end it before it gets to that point.
>>3526080I don’t think Vaisset’s knowing they exist will be particularly relevant, as even if then shijou should know the magi in the area he won’t do anything about the Emiya being here.
>>3526087It's a group of absurdly powerful individuals whose aid we can acquire in taking out our most powerful enemies. I'd like every advantage we can get in taking down the Barthomeloi proxy and Kerry Dos. Ideally, Vaisset wouldn't give a shit about them helping us since he just wants to survive the War, but I don't know if he'd trust such powerful outsiders.>>3526099As far as I know, Emiya's not affiliated with the Mage's Association and lives primarily off of their radar like his father did.
How about we go with basically what >>3525599 says and tell Vaisset that we were following the one source of energy, later noticed another nearby, and decided to back off in case it was a trap by multiple enemy Servants?After that, we encountered the limo that can apparently hide magical energy with the Einzbern girl and a man who talked and acted as though he was a Servant but didn't have the energy of one?
>>3526188I guess we can go with that, if we don't want to mention we found friendly powerful people. I doubt Vaisset would do much about it either way, but in the case we don't tell him, it will be harder to explain later if we end up having to ask the Emiyas for help. Which probably wouldn't amount to much either, other than making Vaisset think we don't trust him and therefore he shouldn't trust us.I don't really see what we gain keeping the Emiyas' presence hidden.
>>3526220If we go all in on the Emiya route we can just try to get the command spells transferred to Rin or something.
>>3526220I'm not so concerned about what we stand to gain as I am about what we stand to lose. Vaisset might not care about the war, but he IS a proper mage, so he could well end up quite pissed that there's a spellcaster living on his land without his permission. That's not to mention what the rest of the Mage's Association will do if they realize there's a living example of the Third Sorcery in existence. If they get found out because of us, they might turn on us thinking we sold them out.
>>3526226I'd rather just get Ayaka as Master, honestly. Going with Rin would make everything easier, but it feels too metagamey to me.
>>3526246Would Alberich know there's any problem with the Emiyas living there, though? He doesn't have extensive knowledge about the Association and their rules.
>>3526248Depends how often we meet with Shirou and friends. Rin has quite a lot of magical energy so it's not like the thought might not enter Alberich's head.And he knows Mastership can be transferred. I'd be ok with Ayaka, or Rin.Or basically anyone.
>>3526254One could at least infer that there's bad blood, with how Shirou decries the Grail Wars.
now that i can use something that isn't tegaki
>>3526340Oh wow.That's fantastic.
>>3526340Nice. Can I get uuuuuuuuuuh Alberich Gosling? Don't actually do that.
>>3526340Excellent! I look forward to seeing it completed.>>3526188So, does everyone want to go with this?
>>3526340One thing I should note is that your cloak does wrap all the way around your shoulders; it's not just on the left side. I used the image of Agravain for an armor reference, but I think he's actually carrying Artoria's cape in that image.
>>3526485I'm still not completely convinced, but I'm on the minority here, so it shouldn't really matter.
>>3526508State your case.
>>3526344>>3526360thx lads>>3526496noted, something like gawain's third stage then
>>3526517I don't think we know we can get the Emiyas in trouble if we say to Vaisset that we met some potential, considerably powerful allies, and I don't see a real reason not to tell him. Alberich did state before that we could use some allies, and these people aren't rival master/servant pairs.
>>3526531That would be nice but I doubt Shirou would be keen to working with an indirect mass murderer. He also has kids to worry about.
>>3526531I don't want our Master to know we've been hanging around with people with easily enough magical energy to be able to usurp him as our master and potentially even the means.I also don't want Shirou's latent Seigi No Mikata to act up and cause a fight.Even Sakura would be pretty pissed off by our Master's actions.
"What did I find?" You pause for a moment, and put on a bashful smile. "I may have to disappoint you, M. Vaisset," you confess, "my findings do not amount to much."Vaisset looks at you flatly, waiting for you to continue. "As I told you before, I was scouting the layout of your city when I felt the presence of a large source of energy nearby; likely a Servant. Hoping to get an idea of one of our enemies, I tracked it at some distance, but was unable to actually catch sight of the source before it was joined by another significant presence. The two came together downtown, and remained in one place for over an hour. At this point I deemed it possible that it was a trap, laid by multiple enemy Servants, and returned.""Intriguing," Vaisset says, "I think you had a point about finding an ally, Saber. Too bad, then, that other Masters have had the idea as well. If they're already coming together, setting ambushes and so-on, we should, I think, be very cautious." He takes a drink of tea before continuing, "You have the right idea, Saber. We'll stay here tonight, and I'll send out my birds to scan as much of Tokyo as they can. Hopefully they'll observe some conflict, or some other suspicious behavior, and we can plan from there." He sets his cup down and stands. "With that, Saber, good night. I will send forth my familiars from my workshop, and after that retire to bed. Take up whatever position you suppose most appropriate for guarding the manor.""Good night, M. Vaisset," you say, standing and giving a nod, "let us hope the morning's report brings plentiful news."As Vaisset leaves the living room, you consider where best to guard the building. It isn't particularly large, but the matter does warrant some thought nonetheless. Last night the cold of the rooftop proved soporific, but you remain keen to find someplace that can survey the front garden. Eventually you decide on a hallway on the second floor with a large protruding picture-window from which you can easily view the yard and street. The spot seems to have been used as a reading nook, since it has a conveniently placed armchair. Materializing your cloak and armor, with your sword at the ready, you sink into the chair and begin the night's watch. As you do, you see many faint presences streak across the sky; the birds of wind Vaisset has dispatched to be your eyes and ears.
The hours of the night pass tranquilly as you sit at your post. No new foe appears, either overtly or by stealth. There is only the silent neighborhood, under the cold light of the moon and stars. That moon catches your eye, though; it's nearly full, but waning. Slightly less round tonight than last night, you observe with an odd moment of pleasure. For ten nights in Judas' Akeldama, the moon was perfectly full and golden. There were ten clear days of high summer and ten clear nights of full moon in that lifeless city; though the time you spent there was only a fraction of your life, the unnerving state of the place will never leave you; simple things like the changing phase of the moon and the shifting weather that you've experienced today feel like a welcome return to normalcy, even if you yourself have become unnatural.Thinking on the topic of that unnatural state, you come to the subject of your new identity. Alberich, a name offered to you by Adelheid; she said it was the name of an ancient mage-king, who sought power sufficient to rule over the earth. It certainly feels right for you now, though the memory wasn't consciously in your mind when you gave that name to Liliesviel von Einzbern. But what of the other two things requiring names? A sword and a cloak, both with the power of your origin, Nothingness and Void. Within yourself, you can feel that they are your Noble Phantasms; the most powerful tools at a Servant's disposal, essential parts of his legend that must have their names called to reveal their true power. Taking a handful of silk in your armored fist, you hold the material up, examining it in the starlight. Black, dark enough almost to absorb light rather than reflect it; shot through with the red of your own blood, spilled to create the item. The image of Circe, your sweet and devoted Servant, bending down to create it, springs unbidden to your mind. In your memory, you watch her bring black threads from nothing, creating them out of mystic energy, and bind them together by soaking them in the pulp of your blood and bone. Then, with the cloth itself made, she painstakingly inscribes the strange and ancient arcane sigils that would, on the cloak's completion, lose their shape and flow together to make the vertical lines that divide the cloak's darkness. Outside the window of her workshop, the stars shine down as they shine on you now. You watch in your memory as, while you sleep in another room, Circe works through the night to complete this garment in time for the final struggle against Archer and Rider.
You blink rapidly, shaking your head to dispel the vision and the emotion it brings. You didn't watch Circe make your cloak! You have no idea whether she worked through the night or not; it's only a fantasy, the product of your imagination and the lack of stimulation from your duty as a guard. Still, out of your musings one concrete idea has emerged: a name for the cloak. In memory of Circe's devotion, it will have a Greek name: Kenótis. The name of your sword remains uncertain, but it will come in time.Status UpdatedSoon enough, the sun rises and you breathe a sigh of relief. Your human impulses aren't as gone as they should be for a Servant, and remaining awake through the night has been something of a trial. Now that dawn has come, however, things should become somewhat easier. It isn't long after sunrise that you hear an alarm go off on the floor above, followed by the sound of Ayaka getting up and beginning her preparations for the day. After yesterday, she'll probably be expecting you to accompany her to school again, you consider. Since she seems to rise before her brother, she'll likely be making breakfast as well; the memory of eating only once yesterday isn't a happy one. On the other hand, following a teenage girl around and mooching food from her isn't exactly your primary goal in the Holy Grail War. Perhaps it would be better to stay here until you can have your promised morning meeting with Vaisset.>[ ] Go downstairs and meet Ayaka for breakfast before escorting her to school. (Compassion)>[ ] Remain at your post and wait for Vaisset to rise. Better to prioritize strategizing today. (Duty)>[ ] Do something else (Write in)
>>3527374>>[ ] Go downstairs and meet Ayaka for breakfast before escorting her to school. (Compassion)
>>3527374>[ ] Go downstairs and meet Ayaka for breakfast before escorting her to school. (Compassion)
>>3527374>[ ] Remain at your post and wait for Vaisset to rise. Better to prioritize strategizing today. (Duty)
Would waiting for Jean make us miss escorting Ayaka to school or would we still be able to make it?
>>3527415You don't know what time he gets up. You didn't see him before leaving with Ayaka yesterday.
>>3527432I don't really feel like relying on an unknown. Perhaps we could ask Ayaka, she is his sister after all.
>>3527374>[ ] Go downstairs and meet Ayaka for breakfast before escorting her to school. (Compassion)Vaisset wants us to keep Ayaka safe, and we need to eat whether Vaisset knows it or not. We can talk to Vaisset about our next move upon our return.In light of Haruo, we may want to consider more seriously the possibility of contacting Matsuda to arrange some sort of protection or at least observation for Ayaka at school. I'm still not completely sold on the idea myself, but we now know that there is a legitimate threat to Ayaka at school, so it's worth mulling over.
>>3527374>[ ] Remain at your post and wait for Vaisset to rise. Better to prioritize strategizing today. (Duty)Waifufags are trash. The war has started.
>>3529389Look, I would gladly wait until Vaisset woke up IF we even knew when that would even be.Alternatively, we could wake him up ourselves.
>>3529426Shit, my ID changed. >>3527459
QM might be writing the update now but what do you guys say about waking our Master up for breakfast?
>[X] Go downstairs and meet Ayaka for breakfast before escorting her to school. (Compassion)Seems to be the consensus. Obviously my "posting pace will improve" prediction was off; I've been occupied again. Should get the next update out tonight though.>>3529389TRASH! I take it you feel the pace has been too slow in Awakening Mirror.>>3529453This option is on the table; feel free to discuss, if anyone does have views on it.
>>3529389Where do you fucking think you are?
>>3529572Seems like a drive-by shitposter. Now hoe do you feel about waking our Master up bright and early? His normal life is over now, after all.
>>3529572Nothing? What a shame.
>>3529572I think we need to stay focused on the war and hear what information Vaisset's familiars gathered instead of doing our best impression of a shoujo manga
>>3529628If it's a war then he should be upinaddem by now, his main purpose for joining it is to protect his sister so we should wake him up now fpr brealfast and still be able to escort his sister after. Relying on an unknown when our Masters goal is to protect Ayaka is counterintuitive.
Look, I'll even make it official.>>3527374>[ ] Go to Vaisset's room to wake him up; this is a War now and one must change their routine to reflect that.
>>3529628If you're really such a Dutyfag then you would either switch to my write-in, or give a damn good reason why it wouldn't work, because it would accomplish the same thing only earlier.
>>3529688I kinda see your vote as a really minor variation of what I already voted for so I imagine they'd be combined.
>>3529714No,>actively going to wake your Master up, which would allow you to start strategizing earlier and have more time to do so if our Master so wishes, or allow us to escort Ayaka anyway if he prioritizes her safety.VS>twiddling our thumbs until our Master wakes up on his own accord, no matter how long, giving us less time to strategize and potentially putting Ayaka at riskit isn't.
>>3529729Yeah lets not wake him up, we've already been told that his sister's safety is a priority.Also I want our affection score with Ayaka to raise
>>3529729Choosing my option is also likely to give us brownie points for being proactive and appearing to be serious about winning the War.
>>3529389>>Waifufags are trash.>he thinks we waifu Ayaka in this quest>not Circe or Yumigawa
>>3529827>or YumigawaThat's a weird way of spelling "and Adelheid".
>>3529827Yumigawa is my favourite waifu.
>>3529834Fuck, my ID changed again.
>>3529827>YumigawaAh, yes, the protagonist; truly the consummate waifu.
But yeah, anybody looking to "dab on the waivubags ebin style :DDDDDD" wouldn't have a good reason to choose the default Duty option now.
>>3529847I'd like to give this anon the "least convincing arguments of all time" award. Even if I 100% agreed with you I wouldn't support your write in because you're just that annoying
>>3529860Sure, but what do you think about XfaC65ed's critique that you're not actually viewing Ayaka as a waifu?
>>3529876I think he's speaking for himself and not necessarily everyone else. I don't see her as a waifu either though
>>3529876I'd just like to comment that the other anon's ID includes "Roa" which might explain why he's being so annoying
>>3529884It could also be "Ruiz".Does this suggest Sweets has drawn up a Mexican Hero?>>3529876Possibly a Mexican waifu?
Listen we can still eat breakfast with the girl. Its not like we are completely abandoning our master. We will just wake him up afterwards, forcefully if needed.
>>3530473Jesus Christ are you still at it?
>>3530477Ok but why the trip
>>3530476No I just popped in for part 2. No ID change or anything.
>>3530479Because I don't feel like pointing out that my ID changed often.
>>3530484Nobody cares if your ID changes
>>3530486Speak for yourself. Changing IDs have been a pain in the ass since the very first thread of CA.
>>3530709Tripfags have been a pain in the ass since the beginning of time
>Reeee trips>Reeee no tripsC’mon now, can’t we just wait for sweets without pointlessly running up the thread?
>>3530786At this rate we won't hit the post limit anyway, we're just keeping it bumped with our pointless bickering.
>>3532651It's 3.30 in the morning, cut him some slack
>>3532660It's just that he went quiet for a day.
>>3532665That is worrying, yes.Has he succumbed to the QM curse at long last?
>>3532679Might b dealing with a End-of-year business at uni
I'm still around, folks, just busy and having a hard time getting this update out. Sorry to have gone quiet...
>>3533093All is well, best pseudosister
>>3533093It's fine, just keep us as updated as you can.
>>3533093It's okay, man, just pop in once every couple of days so we know you're alive.
You continue to think about what to do with your morning for a while, watching the brightening sunlight through the window as you hear Ayaka make her way downstairs. Eventually you decide to prioritize your breakfast and the girl's protection by meeting her in the kitchen. You don't know how late Vaisset sleeps, and after all he did tell you to keep both he and his sister safe. Decision made, you head downstairs and find the girl frying eggs in the kitchen."Good morning, miss Ayaka," you say, sitting down at the kitchen table. "Would you mind making enough for two?"The girl turns in surprise to look at you. "Oh, sure," she answers, sounding confused, "but I didn't know Servants ate. Don't you live on energy?"It's certainly true that you never saw Circe or Adelheid eat for more than the pleasure of it, so you suppose she has a point. You, however, don't seem to share their freedom from need. Then again, you remember Perseus eating a great deal, and there was Emiya's comment about Sabers and appetites. Perhaps it varies from Servant to Servant. "Mystic energy is essential," you explain, "but that does not excuse the necessity of food. Anything alive must eat, I suppose.""Huh..." Ayaka still sounds offput by the idea, but she adds another two eggs to the pan anyway. It isn't long before she's serving them up with toast and sitting down across from you to eat. "You're up earlier this morning, Saber-san," the girl remarks. "Not sleeping on the roof last night?""Heh heh," you give the jibe a resigned chuckle. "No, Miss Ayaka, I was able to find a better place from which to guard your home; and I did hear you awakening this morning. You're an early riser."Ayaka shrugs. "It's a habit, I guess," she says with a look of reminiscence, "my mother always used to have me do a daily sacrifice before dawn for the Shijou magic. Since she and dad passed, I've been just keeping up with school, but I'll probably always wake up early.""A daily sacrifice?" You echo her words, as the idea catches your interest. You hadn't noticed Truvietianne or Circe doing anything like that, after all. "What purpose did that serve in your magical training?" "It's because of our specialty," Ayaka says, putting down her fork for a moment to focus on explaining. "The Shijou are hereditarily aligned to Water, with a specialty in blood, and we've cultivated a knowledge of Connection magic, as well as archaic black magic. This means we can get energy a lot more efficiently with something like animal sacrifice than when we use our own Od. That's why all of the Shijou heirs learn sacrifice as one of the basic techniques." Then Ayaka pauses, before blushing and laughing embarassedly. "To tell you the truth, though, I could never work up the nerve to kill the doves. Mother got very angry with me over that eventually."
Although she's trying to laugh it off, you can see that her inability to please the now-dead woman eats at Ayaka. Before you can think of something comforting to say, however, she changes the subject."But why talk about me," she says. "What did you and Nii-san figure out last night? Have a plan to win the war?"Now it's your turn to be on the bashful side. "Not as such," you admit. "Things are very much in the preliminary stages. For the time being, we intend to maintain a defensive position while gathering information on the enemy."Ayaka finishes the last bite of her breakfast and gets up to head for the door. "Oh," she says, upturned tone turning the sound into a question. "Why were you out so late then, Saber-san? I thought you must've been out fighting.""No, I was merely doing some reconnaissance," you say, following the girl out of the house. "M. Vaisset informed me last night that the final Servant was summoned, but prior to that I felt confident of being able to scout the city without finding myself engaged in battle.""So did you find anyone doing this scouting?" Ayaka looks at you interestedly as the two of you walk side-by-side. "I guess not, if you're still planning to wait at home.""It was... inconclusive," you say. "I did encounter someone who seemed to be an enemy Master, but I couldn't be certain. She was with several people who seemed to be neither humans nor Servants. It was a very odd situation." You think back to your encounter with Liliesviel von Einzbern as you speak. The girl was surely the Einzbern Master, but then what could explain the three other occupants of the car? They didn't have the quality of mystic energy that marks a Servant, you don't think. There was a strange feeling of kinship you felt when dealing with the Emiyas' Rider that you can only explain as the connection between Servants, and that certainly wasn't there with any member of the Einzbern party. But then, what could explain the mysterious nature of the three passengers with abnormal energy? You've been quiet for a while, you realize. You clear your head and finish, "at any rate, I am now putting my hope in the capability of your brother's familiars to gather more wide-ranging information than I can."Ayaka mutters something you can't quite make out about her brother not deserving hope, but something else shocks you out of the consideration of her comment. You're just outside the school now, and the two of you are moving through a scattered crowd of students to get Ayaka to the front gate. In this pedestrian atmosphere, however, something chills you: the unmistakable presence of a Servant. It seems to be somewhere down the street, at the opposite end of the group of students making their way into the school, but you can't tell exactly where the thing is. Still, if you've noticed it the chances are that it's noticed you as well. A battle may be unavoidable at this point, and in that case you need to draw the enemy away from Ayaka.
>[ ] Part ways with Ayaka, pushing through the crowd towards the presence of the enemy Servant. (Pride)>[ ] Shepherd Ayaka to the gate, then wait there and see if the enemy comes to you. (Compassion)>[ ] Do something else (Write in)
>>3534943>[ ] Part ways with Ayaka, pushing through the crowd towards the presence of the enemy Servant. (Pride)If we stay with her, it might give off the impression that she's our Master.
>>3534943>[ ] Shepherd Ayaka to the gate, then wait there and see if the enemy comes to you. (Compassion)
>>3534942>[ ] Part ways with Ayaka, pushing through the crowd towards the presence of the enemy Servant. (Pride)
>>3534942>[ ] Part ways with Ayaka, pushing through the crowd towards the presence of the enemy Servant. (Pride)Mind you, there is the possibility of the girl getting kidnapped, but that's a risk I'm willing to take.
>>3534942>[ ] Part ways with Ayaka, pushing through the crowd towards the presence of the enemy Servant. (Pride)There will be blood...
>>3534943>[ ] Part ways with Ayaka, pushing through the crowd towards the presence of the enemy Servant. (Pride)>>3535231Hopefully not hers, lest we get suicided.
>>3534943>[ ] Shepherd Ayaka to the gate, then wait there and see if the enemy comes to you. (Compassion)We can detect enemy servants, but not enemy masters. Leaving Ayaka alone in a crowd is begging for trouble.
>>3534942Switching from>>3535240 to >>3535609.
>>3534943>[x] Shepherd Ayaka to the gate, then wait there and see if the enemy comes to you. (Compassion)
>>3535609>>3534942A compelling point. Switching to >[ ] Shepherd Ayaka to the gate, then wait there and see if the enemy comes to you. (Compassion)Because fuck hostage situations
Keeping your cool, you feel for the distance between you and the enemy Servant. It's at the opposite end of the school's long walled entrance, moving towards the gate with the students from the less wealthy neighborhoods. You put a hand on Ayaka's shoulder, steering her more firmly towards the gate. The girl lets out a quiet sound of indignation, turning towards you and hissing, "Saber-san, what are you-" You lean down and whisper in a grave tone, "Stay quiet and keep walking, Miss Ayaka. This could be a matter of life and death."The girl looks at you suspiciously, but the firmness in your tone convinces her. Then she scans the crowd with nervous eyes, looking for the danger. Not finding any, she allows you to walk her to the gate. You can feel her shaking slightly under your hand; although she does a praiseworthy job of projecting outward calm and casual morning friendliness, your warning is affecting her. As you walk, you focus on the enemy Servant's energy, making sure it doesn't draw too close. It keeps its distance until you get Ayaka to the gate. As she passes through, you lean down once more and mutter into her ear, "Miss Ayaka, hurry to your classes. There is a Servant approaching." The girl blanches, but does manage to hold back from making any noise of surprise. Taking your advice, she quickly turns and walks quickly through the crowd of students towards the school building.Your opposite number seems to be taking the encounter at a more relaxed pace, approaching amidst the crowd without exceeding their speed. All at once, however, the presence fades. It's moving quickly away from the crowd of students, and no-one still there exudes an unusual presence or looks in any way out of place. With no physical body separating from the group, it's plain that the enemy Master has sent their Servant away in spirit form. The students file past you, the Master indistinguishable from the ordinary schoolchildren. Your prey has slipped by you.The Servant, however, might not be lost. You can still faintly feel its energy as it moves from rooftop to rooftop, quickly putting distance between you two. It may not be too late to chase after it now, but there's no telling where it's going or how long it will keep you from meeting with Vaisset to discuss his familiars' findings last night.>[ ] Go after the enemy Servant. (Pride)>[ ] Return to the manor. (Duty)>[ ] Do something else. (Write in)
>>3536909>[ ] Return to the manor. (Duty)Restraint is important
>>3536909>[ ] Go after the enemy Servant. (Pride)
>>3536909>[ ] Return to the manor. (Duty)
>>3536909>Return to ManorLets go fucko, home turf so people won't see and we get the Church on our ass.Unless this is actually Medusa wanting to talk to us.
As the presence of the enemy Servant withdraws, your first instinct is to tense for a leap, following it over the rooftops. You hold back, though, taking a deep breath to relax. There's no point in chasing an unknown enemy to an unknown location right now; it might be planning an ambush, and even if the enemy isn't setting a trap chasing after it will certainly delay your strategy meeting with Vaisset. The most important thing you needed to accomplish, you decide, was keeping the enemy Master from bringing their Servant into the school. With that done, you can return to the Shijou Manor. The walk back to the manor is fortunately uneventful, and when you enter you find Vaisset eating his own later breakfast in the kitchen: fried eggs and toast, like his sister. He looks up as you enter, swallowing a mouthful of food before greeting you. "Watching over my sister again this morning, Saber?""Correct," you say with a nod. "I saw her safely to school today, but it is not certain that the school will remain safe indefinitely. There seems to be another Master in the area."Vaisset's face darkens at your words. "What do you mean, Saber? You didn't leave her alone with an enemy, surely.""Not with the Servant, no," you reply, "and I remain unsure about the Master. I felt the presence of an enemy Servant near the school gate when we arrived, but it fled in spirit form once I drew near. I believe the Master is one of the students, but that may not necessarily be true.""I see." Vaisset lapses into silence for a few moments, eating thoughtfully. "There are other magus families in the area, as I've told you," he says, "but I'm not certain if any have heirs attending Ayaka's academy. How frustrating." He thinks for a while longer, continuing to eat his breakfast, before seeming to come to a conclusion. "I suppose it isn't a question that needs to be answered immediately. No magus under my jurisdiction would think of doing battle with mundane witnesses about. Be certain you're there to collect Ayaka when her classes end, and we needn't worry.""I will do so," you say with a nod. "Now, what about your reconnaissance last night, M. Vaisset? Did your familiars discover anything of note?"Vaisset shakes his head, wearing an expression of disappointment. "I'm afraid not," he says. "It's possible that we were overly enthusiastic in thinking the enemy would rush out to prowl the city that first night. Rider was only summoned around midnight, leaving precious little time to battle. We may need to fight the Holy Grail War under the cover of darkness, but that doesn't excuse the requirement of sleep. Most likely, we'll be better able to discover enemy action in the early evening, just after dark.""You could find no traces of the enemy at all?" Not wanting to believe the disappointing outcome, you prod Vaisset for further information.
"That isn't precisely it," Vaisset says. "I found no definite signs of the enemy, but there were some rather odd circumstances my familiars discovered."Now this is something that could potentially prove useful. "Odd circumstances? What do you mean by that?""The destroyed houses were the most apparently bizarre," Vaisset begins. "There were three houses in a small area, all of which looked as if they'd burned down only recently. And yet, none were adjacent. How did contemporaneous fires occur in houses quite unconnected from one another? The work of an enemy magus seems likely to me, but his motive is uncertain." It takes a few seconds, during which Vaisset appears to be carefully picking his words, before he continues, "The second strange thing my familiars saw was misfortune."You can't help but speak up here. "Misfortune? How can you consider that to be the work of a Master and Servant?""It was very strange," Vaisset says pensively. "Perhaps I am simply too cut off from ordinary people to understand, but it seemed as if there was a wave of misfortune sweeping through the people. On the street there were erratic lights, failures to brake properly by drivers, jaywalking, and most of all stumbling. Everyone I saw was falling down continuously, seeming to trip over their own feet more often than not. It was as if every possible stroke of bad luck that could affect the streets broke out at once.""That sounds very strange," you allow, "but I still doubt it was the work of an enemy Master. Faulty power and drunken pedestrians seem more likely to blame.""Perhaps you're right, Saber," says Vaisset. "Still, the affair seemed thoroughly unnatural. In any case, those two items were the only major disturbances I observed in the city. What are your thoughts, Saber?">[ ] Investigate the burnt houses. (Pride)>[ ] Investigate the bad luck downtown. (Duty)>[ ] Focus on the enemy Servant near Ayaka's school. (Pride/Compassion)>[ ] Advise Vaisset to do something else (Write in)
>>3537127>[ ] Investigate the bad luck downtown. (Duty)
>>3537127>[ ] Focus on the enemy Servant near Ayaka's school. (Pride/Compassion)
>>3537127>but I still doubt it was the work of an enemy MasterSo some sort of luck stealing NP maybe?
>>3537127>[ ] Investigate the bad luck downtown. (Duty)>>3537242That would be pretty bad.Which is why we have to kill it as soon as asap.
>>3537127>[ ] Investigate the bad luck downtown. (Duty)>inb4 a Saber gets crippled by a nat 1
>>3537934>inb4 the luck succ is so powerful that Saber’s luck turns around, and he survives some Gae Bulg tier memes
>>3537945>inb4 our luck rolls over from E-- to [STAR]
>>3537945>>3537949Given you're at B-rank Luck now, that would be some insane modification.
So given that this is luck base, I would say that there is a 80% chance this is a lancer class. They always have bad luck so this lancer probably has a way to counteract it or spread it to others. There is no caster in this war doing tricky stuff and that was the other class most likely. Lancer V Saber fights usually run about even with neither side having an advantage, so I doubt we will be able to win easily without either support from our master, or a plan to take out theirs (unlikely given we are going into an unknown situation and our master being useless in combat).
>>3539376On that note, we probably should take this safe. Gather information, fight if engaged, but plan to retreat and don't take anything risky. Our main objective should be the identity of this servant's master in order to open up diplomacy and possibly killing this master off in the future.
Status UpdatedI've completed the profiles for all seven Servants from the Akeldama Grail War! Feel free to look them over while I work on the current update.
>>3539585>Robin Hood's NP is a guaranteed one-hit kill>C-rankSo Assassin jobbed, too...
>>3539606I guess that's the only way a Caster can really win a Grail War...
>>3539606You know, I was concerned about the writing on that. The point is that it's deadly to humans, but a Servant with sufficient Endurance can power through it. That's why it's just a "deadly poison," rather than some reality-warping power like Gae Bolg.
"If it seems so unnatural to you, we'll simply have to determine the truth of the matter in person," you declare. You still have your own doubts that the chaotic scene Vaisset described was the product of anything more than the late hour in a crowded city, but there's no harm in following up on it. Cultivating a good relationship with your Master, you reason, is more important than gratifying your own skepticism. "Just a moment, Saber," Vaisset's words and disapproving tone cut through your train of thought. "What's this 'we,' business? I believe we discussed the matter of your operating independently after you were summoned. If the matter warrants investigation, you shall seek the enemy without my presence."You sigh. There's the rich man's son, used to getting whatever he likes. "The point of 'this we business', as you put it, is efficacy, M. Vaisset," you reply acidly. "Masters can detect other Masters, can you not? Servants can detect other Servants. Thus, if we would ferret out our foes we must do so in person and together. Whatever your preferences on the matter may be, this is the appropriate manner of prosecuting the Holy Grail War." As Vaisset opens his mouth for an indignant response, you raise a finger to cut him off. "Furthermore, I would remind you that you have agreed to defer to my superior expertise regarding the planning of the War.""Alright, Saber, you've made your point," Vaisset says with resignation. "We shall have to go downtown tonight, after darkness falls, and inspect the area," he pauses to sigh, "on foot. I can only hope that my familiars will find something more concrete today, and you can pursue that next lead without my presence." "It's only the Holy Grail, don't put yourself out," you mutter under your breath. Vaisset's disinterest in the wish offered by the ritual may be to your advantage, but it certainly has its downsides. The man seems to consider the entire War to be a rather intrusive bother, and his attitude is getting on your last nerve."What was that, Saber?" Vaisset eyes you irritably. You may not have been as quiet as you'd intended."I said, why wait 'til evening to go out," you lie, spinning an alternative. "We shouldn't be wasting time, M. Vaisset. Why not seize the moment and investigate downtown right now?"Vaisset gives you a condescending smirk. "Whatever sort of hero you were in life," he says, "you certainly were not a magus. There must be no witnesses to magic. If we were to encounter the enemy in broad daylight, we would need to be prepared to eliminate every bystander on the street. Just why did you think the War was fought at night, Saber?""In my experience, it isn't," you return. "We were fighting twenty-four hours a day in the Akeldama. I'll bear your schedule in mind in the future."
"Do," Vaisset says dismissively. "Speaking of my schedule, I shall have to get to work shortly. If I must be out traipsing around in search of the enemy tonight, I really must devote my day to research. Why don't you go and wait at the academy for Ayaka? That mysterious Servant is weighing on my mind.""Very well, M. Vaisset." With that, you turn and exit the manor without pause. You've had quite enough of Vaisset's attitude for one evening. It's still morning, however, even if it is getting towards lunchtime. If you simply stand guard at the school, as Vaisset suggested, you'll have quite a long wait ahead of you before Ayaka is finished. Knowing that an enemy magus is unlikely to seek out a fight in the daytime, perhaps you could find a better way to spend your time.>[ ] Wait at the school for Ayaka to finish her classes.>[ ] Visit the Emiya house. (With what in mind?)>[ ] Go looking for something else. (Where in the city do you want to go, or what do you want to look for?)
>>3539376>I would say that there is a 80% chance this is a lancer class.Is there really any way to predict this off of "giving other people bad luck"? It could be the Hassan of the Goldberg Mechanism doing some freaky assassinations for all we know so far, or it could be related to the Servant who was stalking us.>They always have bad luck so this lancer probably has a way to counteract it or spread it to others.Ignoring the "Lancer" part for the reasons I stated above, this seems likely.>Lancer V Saber fights usually run about even with neither side having an advantageFun fact: Sabers are supposed to be strong against Lancers. The clearest example would be F/SN, where Arturia has Instinct A and Luck A so she knows what Cu's about to do (in particular when he's about to pierce with death so she can dodge), Cu has Protection from Arrows to thwart sniping attempts, and EMIYA can snipe Arturia faster than her Instinct will let her dodge.However, there are more Servants who buck the trend than those who don't, like Karna (Lancer), Gilgamesh (Archer) and Siegfreid/possibly us (Saber)>so I doubt we will be able to win easily without either support from our master, or a plan to take out theirsWell, that's a given.>our master being useless in combat>>3498611"Be silent," Vaisset snaps! The he sighs, and modulates his tone. "Excuse me, that was uncalled for. I am proficient in a wide range of combat-oriented mysteries utilizing wind.>>3539585>Clint had the iron plateOf course he did.And he also didn't have enough energy to defend himself from Adelheid's big boom? We really were an OP Master, huh.>>3539647>[ ] Wait at the school for Ayaka to finish her classes.
>>3539659>And he also didn't have enough energy to defend himself from Adelheid's big boomBlondie had been running on empty for a few days at that point, yeah. If you recall, he blocked the attack but faded out due to energy depletion.
>>3539689I thought being on Blackbeard's crew for a bit recharged him.
>>3539585>Hagia Sophia heals Saber's wounds and strengthens him>can't be damaged or forced open so he can hole up as long as he wants>the only way to get rid of it once it's summoned is to defeat Saber inside the cathedralDamn, Lancer really saved our ass here.
>>3539647>[ ] Wait at the school for Ayaka to finish her classes.Can we really not sense masters ourselves?
>>3539647>[ ] Visit the Emiya house. [More questioning about the old wars]>>3539659>Siegfreid/possibly us (Saber)The name’s Alberich anon
>>3539647>[ ] Wait at the school for Ayaka to finish her classes.>>3539703He never joined Blackbeard's crew, he just decided to work together with them for a bit. He was masterless the entire time.>>3539704Only by getting us inside. We did most of the work in killing Sean and by extension Saber.
>>3539836>The name’s Alberich anonI know, but "us" is shorter
>>3539659Yea, I realized that our master supposedly can fight, but he already stated that he has no interest in fighting other masters. And if this little back and forth is any indication, he is not in the right mind set to fight in the holy grail war.For the Lancer thing being behind the luck based shenanigans, the reason I predict Lancer is because IIRC, the Lancer class in general tends to have bad luck.
>>3539842Remember the unhealing wound he inflicted on Saber with Harpe. That had a fairly major impact.
>>3539647>[ ] Visit the Emiya house.( Hopefully Rin (and is very knowledgeable) is there and if she is, tell her of our situation)Hopefully she can give us hints and or tips about our current state of being. If she is not there lets just go to Ayaka.
I won't be able to update tonight, unfortunately, but will write tomorrow morning.
>>3539647>[ ] Wait at the school for Ayaka to finish her classes.>>3541081Spicy metagame.
>>3541081>>3541670This option is a massive fucking metagame, stop it.
>>3541688>Implying>"Not much," Shirou replies. "Of the Five Sorceries, I only have any information on the Second and Third; the others are kept secret pretty well. The Second Sorcery has to do with observing and using parallel worlds, but you could learn more from my sister-in-law, Rin.">”And who might she be?" You lean forward, intrigued. Magic to do with parallel worlds... could it shed more light on the function of your origin?>"Sakura's sister, a magus studying at the Clock Tower as an apprentice of the Second Sorcerer," Shirou explains. "Normally she lives in London, but if you're interested in the Second Sorcery you may be in luck. She announced a week ago that she'd be visiting us this weekend." Shirou pauses as an idea strikes. "Now that I think about it, I wonder if she'd heard about the Grail War. The timing certainly lines up.">"Well then, I'll look forward to speaking with her," you say. "But right now I have some more questions about the Holy Grail War, if you don't mind."
>>3541713Still a metagame choice and you know it.
>>3541721Alberich literally has knowledge of her and what she might know, calling it metagame is absurd
>>3541724We know she exists, we shouldn't be visiting Emiya and friends just for her.
>>3541726>we shouldn't be visiting Emiya and friends just for herYeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion, man
>>3541724>>3541726>>3541733Metagame or not, there's another huge problem with the plan: it's not the weekend yet.
>>3541738This calls for a time skip in which we study all of Vaisset's material on Imaginary Numbers. Surely he must have something, even if it's only academic knowledge since it's not his Element.seriously we should look around
>>3541738Oh, I did not know that. Changing>>3541670 To>[ ] Wait at the school for Ayaka to finish her classes.
>>3542146Are we still capable of doing that? It, and working on our Origin could be a decent use of our time but we don't have Circe as a teacher anymore.
>>3542154Then again, would it be in character for us to continue? We know it's a good idea but Alberich is no longer his own magic source so I doubt he would.
>>3542163We can still manipulate the magic within us regardless of it's source though right?
>>3542146>>3542189The operative question here is what you want to do with Transference magic right now. All your previous training was to improve efficacy of supplying your Servants, but that's no longer applicable. Now, Transference can be used for all sorts of other things (pic related), but you don't have any experience with that. So what's your goal?
>>3542196Can transference be used to further empower items? Or is that reserved only for reinforcement? We just don't know of any other types of magic so transference seems like the only real option for self training right now.
>>3542196Could we manipulate the mana that Vaisset supplies us? We were able to do the reverse with our Od, while we were still remotely human, but that was merely direction more than it was complete control.
>>3542205>Can transference be used to further empower items?If it's an item designed to take in mystic energy, yes. Your mystic code (before it became Kenotis) is an example of this. You could also use Transference to strengthen an object by transferring some property of a different object to it, but you'd need to find a magus to teach you how to do that. All you've really learned to do so far is manipulate mystic energy with great precision. Since that (together with your magic circuits) became your stat of Magic Energy B, though, it's not as though it isn't helping you now.>>3542219>Could we manipulate the mana that Vaisset supplies us?First, what he's supplying you is mystic energy sourced from his Od, not Mana. To answer your question, though, yes. In a couple of ways. First, you're manipulating it constantly to sustain your existence as a Servant. You also use it to activate your NP (though you haven't done that yet). In addition, any magecraft you do perform as a Servant will be using the energy he supplies you. I feel like there's some other connotation you had in mind to manipulation, but I'm not sure what it is.
>>3542241Let's practice transferring more power to our noble thantasms then. It beats just sitting around outside a school.
>>3542241>what he's supplying you is mystic energy sourced from his Od, not ManaMy mistake.>I feel like there's some other connotation you had in mind to manipulationNope, that was it.
>6 updates in 8 daysRIP
>>3541738So I 100% forgot that we would have to wait for the weekend when I picked my choice. I want to change it to looking around the city for a bit.
>>3542792Sweets just has a life and kino QMing takes a lot of time and effort. He will return, and we will realize renovatio questii
Looking out at the street ahead of you, a few options come to mind. You could visit the Emiya family and see whether that unusual spellcaster has any new input for you regarding the Holy Grail War. Alternatively, you might spend the day practicing your magecraft. You may not have learned many techniques, but surely practicing the basics serves well in any pursuit. After some thought, however, you put aside both of these notions. The most important thing for you to do is stand guard at the school, with the mysterious presence of the enemy Servant. Vaisset may have any number of high-minded notions about how the War ought to be fought, but there's ultimately nothing to guarantee that his view is the consensus. Whoever was giving that Servant its orders obviously wasn't above moving around in the day accompanied by a superhuman fighter; the entire scheme of retreat may well have been a scheme to lull you into a false sense of security and then, under the false impression that she is your Master, kill Ayaka! Indeed, a crisis may be unfolding at this very moment! As your thoughts run away with you, you pick up speed, fairly racing to Kyoutenkan Academy with visions of gory death flashing through your mind. How could you have been so foolish? The enemy Servant is probably stalking defenseless Ayaka right now, waiting for the perfect moment to kill her; or to save time they may be indiscriminately gutting the student body one by one, or even burning the school to the ground!Or... doing nothing. You feel a bit foolish as you reach the school to find it just the same as you left it, with no impression of a Servant's presence on the grounds. You're not certain your perception extends to the entire property, of course. Nevertheless, there doesn't seem to be anything amiss with the school. It's the middle of the last morning class before the lunch break, and through the windows you can see students shifting restlessly in their seats, mentally urging teachers to hurry up and get it over with. One window is angles such that from your position you watch as a teacher reaches the end of her patience and angrily rebukes a student, although the class' reaction is obscured from your view. In other words, things are running perfectly as normal at Kyoutenkan.Moreover, you feel the same presence as this morning outside of the school. It seems the enemy Servant either had the same concern for a student that you did or is here for some other reason, as the presence of its spirit is quite apparent at the opposite end of the block. With studied calm, you approach the invisible presence. This time it doesn't retreat, but draws near to you at the same pace. Finally you meet, close enough to speak, in front of the school gate. The Servant materializes.Huh...?
Confusion is what first runs through your mind on seeing the enemy Servant. Looking at him, you'd believe he was the teenage student, and not his Master. Standing before you is a young blonde man, with blue eyes, tousled hair, and an impetuous, energetic expression. Though you know for a fact that you really are young, and this is a resurrected spirit of some long-dead figure, you still feel old looking at him! Like yourself, he's adapted to modern garb, wearing a black cashmere overcoat, white shirt, and navy slacks. As soon as he's materialized, he claps his hands together and starts rubbing them. "Fwough! Cold out here, isn't it," he exclaims. "Don't we get used to modern conveniences fast?"When you return a blank stare to his comment, the young man gives you a lopsided grin, saying, "Hey, no need to be so standoffish. We're in the same boat here, right? I'm Rider, by the way." This eminently gregarious fellow actually sticks his hand out for you to shake. Feeling like a bit of a fool, you allow yourself to be carried along in his pace and shake the proffered hand."You may call me Saber," you answer stiffly. You're still not sure what to make of this new Rider, and wait for him to propel the conversation he's dragged you into along. "Oh, you're suspicious of me," he says wryly. "I get it, I get it. We're meant to kill each other, so you don't feel like a little chat. But really, Saber, we're in a position to sympathize with one another. Look!" He gestures to the school, sweeping an arm out to encompass the grounds. "You showed up here escorting your Master this morning, right? It was the same for me! Then we noticed another Servant, bolted, and came back to check on them! Now I bet you're planning on staying here 'til classes are done, so you can make sure your Master gets home safe, right?""You have the gist of it," you allow. "Well then," Rider continues, good cheer veritably bursting out of him, "like I said, we're in the same boat! Now, we both know there's no fighting in the day, so we might as well be friendly while we wait. How's the War been for you so far, Saber?">[ ] How do you respond to Rider?
>>3546450>Uneventful until now: I've seen no sign of Servants other than you and that spate of bad luck downtown. And for you?
>>3542792>>3544191>>3546368Alright, yeah, this has definitely not been a great week for me in terms of writing. I think I'm through the worst now, though, and I'm fairly confident I can do multiple updates tomorrow.
>>3546458Cool.By the way, does Rider ever appear in canon? Because if he does, it could be Jason.
>>3546460Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't.
>>3546457Why give him valuable intel?
>>3546666What valuable intel? You couldn't miss the shit that happened at the junction if you were taking part in the war, and even if he somehow doesn't know it's not much to work off of. You shouldn't be so paranoid, anon
>>3546674I still don't see the point of bringing it up.
>>3546748To make casual conversation. Maybe he’ll surrender something of actual worth if we keep talking amicably.
>>3546801Not everyone has an extensive surveillance network throughout the entire city so why should we risk tipping anyone off about info we learned because we do have one?
>>3546821Because the info is quite vague, and so by revealing it we risk nothing and stand to gain maybe something.
>>3546860I'd say we're risking quite a bit. Not only are we revealing that we have the capacity to observe such a large-scale phenomenon (which a Saber alone is unlikely to be capable of), we're also noting that we think it's connected to another servant. It doesn't take much to figure out that it's something we intend to investigate. Dropping just that little bit of information reveals something of the capabilities of our master and lends our enemy the ability to predict our movements to some degree.Supporting >>3546457 but leave out the part about the bad luck.
>>3547868Exactly. Being paranoid is necessary in grail wars.
>>3546450>>3546457 but exclude our intel.
>>3547868>which a Saber alone is unlikely to be capable of...That's why everyone uses familiars.Any Magus worth his salt can make and send out familiars -- and many will, on order to scout the place without having to send the Servant out. In fact, we already know of two other Masters who'd do that (not that we're telling Rider their names).>it's something we intend to investigateMaybe not anymore, now that Rider has shown himself and we know there's another Master so close to Ayaka. It would be foolish to leave her alone with the total unknown, after all, and it would behoove us to investigate that.I think the in the end it's not as bad as you think, because it's something everyone would know if they bothered to look around.
>>3548113Even if there's just a tiny bit of risk by bringing it up it's not worth it because we gain literally nothing by telling him.
>>3548146We gain his trust, a chance to make a friend. We could use a friend if a problematic Servant shows up.Also, he seems friendly enough, and telling him something could prompt him to tell us something if only to keep up his image.
>>3548146So are you voting for leaving out the information about what you've seen? Do you have something else to write in? Currently I have 3 votes for:"The War has been largely uneventful. In fact, you and the strange outbreak of accidents last night have been the only signs of Servants I've encountered. What of yourself?"With 2 for:"For me, the War has been uneventful. In fact, you are the first Servant I've encountered thus far; and an unusual one at that. What has you so cheerful, Rider?"
>>3548439I'll vote for the latter
Now it seems that we need a tiebreaker.
Rolled 2 (1d2)>>3548572Let the coin choose.>1. Me>2. Me, but no mention of the oopsies
You may as well play along with the other Servant, you decide. Whether he's trying to deceive you or just foolishly friendly, there's the potential for you to gain valuable information either way. So you put on an act of relaxing, opening up to him a bit in your posture and answering him in a friendlier tone than you'd used to introduce yourself. "For me, the War has been uneventful," you say. "In fact, you are the first Servant I've encountered thus far; and an unusual one at that. What has you so cheerful, Rider?"Rider grins as he answers. "What has me so cheerful? You should know that as well as I do. A new life after all these years! A shot at the Holy Grail! Who wouldn't be cheerful about this kind of circumstance? And besides, there's the company. Think about it, Saber, this War is the only gathering in history where we have the chance to meet the world's finest heroes, with a guarantee of no fakers, exaggerators, or other con men around. There's no mortal social club that can make a boast like that!"Given your nature, you suppose you'd fall under the definition of an exaggerator. Certainly you haven't appeared in any legends, and your abilities as a Servant seem to be rather higher than those you had as a modified human. Clearly Rider isn't in possession of all the facts regarding who can and cannot fill the role of Servant, but you don't trouble yourself to correct him. If his friendliness is due to an impression of your nonexistent heroism, there's no need to ruin that. Instead, you ask, "And have you availed yourself of the opportunity by meeting some of our august competitors?" Rider shakes his head morosely. "No," he says, "not so many as I'd hoped. I had in mind some kind of meeting of all seven Masters when the War began, but I guess these magi aren't interested in that kind of thing. I've only gotten the chance to meet one other Servant, and with him I've been sworn to secrecy! It's a real disappointment. You think you can sit down and discuss what it means to be a hero with the great examples from history, and instead it's all secrets and false names, going around invisible and only fighting at night... don't you think these magi are a pack of rogues, Saber? I mean, the attitude they've got in summoning up heroes and ordering them around like this almost offsets the favor of bringing us back in the first place!" Throughout this diatribe, Rider frequently gesticulates, conveying his attitude by vehement hand gestures as well as his widely ranging of tone of voice.
"It is a rather arrogant act, binding a hero," you allow. If truth be told, it had always struck you as a bit presumptuous for contemporary people to act as Masters of legendary figures. Of course, for one of such obvious superiority as yourself it was perfectly acceptable, but the majority of humanity doesn't deserve the same allowance. Rider has a point, if a very minor one. "However," you continue, "there is another side to consider. As you've said, it is through them that we are given the opportunity to seize the Grail. Furthermore, they supply us with the energy necessary to live. As a child dependent on its parents for sustenance must obey them, so we are bound to our Masters."Rider makes a dismissive wave of his hand. "Well, you know that's not exactly true. There is the other way, getting energy from blood, if you don't mind putting your principles aside to do it.""Surely a man who lightly sets aside his principles cannot be considered a great hero," you counter. "The tragic death as a consequence of preferring principles to self-preservation is a classic element of a hero's life.""Fair enough, Saber, you've got me there," Rider says laughingly. "That's why we're both waiting here for our Masters to finish school instead of wreaking havoc and looking for the other Servants!" Then he pauses for a moment, his expression darkening, before continuing. "Listen, Saber," he says seriously, "why don't we put the scheming of the magi aside and have a proper duel? You and I, one-on-one, right here. We can come back tonight, after dark, and settle at least one Servant before our Masters have the chance to set up secret alliances, start killing each other, or any of that filth. Either you'll be eliminated, or I will, and it'll be that simple. What do you say?""Well, that's quite a suggestion," you say, momentarily taken aback. After collecting yourself, though, you decide to...>[ ] Take Rider up on his offer of a duel. It may not have been your method in the last Grail War, but Saber is a far more direct Servant than Caster. The idea of cleanly defeating the one Servant you've encountered and taking a clear step towards victory excites you. (Duty)>[ ] Turn Rider's idea down. As with the last Holy Grail War, you want to gather information and allies before any actual battle. You may not have Circe's abilities at your disposal anymore, but that setback shouldn't change your overall approach. A careful method will also minimize danger to Vaisset and Ayaka, the primary objective Vaisset had given you. (Compassion)>[ ] Challenge Rider to a fight here and now! You've had enough of waiting around, and the street is clear; the neighborhood is silent; there's no need to be worried about the witness rule of the magi at the moment. If Rider has the courage to duel you, you'd rather not postpone it. (Pride)>[ ] Respond in some other way. (Write in)
>>3548819>[x] Turn Rider's idea down. As with the last Holy Grail War, you want to gather information and allies before any actual battle. You may not have Circe's abilities at your disposal anymore, but that setback shouldn't change your overall approach. A careful method will also minimize danger to Vaisset and Ayaka, the primary objective Vaisset had given you. (Compassion)We could maybe take him, but I'd rather not fight to the death until we figure out a name for our sword. Just to be safe.
>>3548819>[ ] Turn Rider's idea down. As with the last Holy Grail War, you want to gather information and allies before any actual battle. You may not have Circe's abilities at your disposal anymore, but that setback shouldn't change your overall approach. A careful method will also minimize danger to Vaisset and Ayaka, the primary objective Vaisset had given you. (Compassion)Note that someone might try to swoop in and kill the winner.
>>3548819>[ ] Turn Rider's idea down. As with the last Holy Grail War, you want to gather information and allies before any actual battle. You may not have Circe's abilities at your disposal anymore, but that setback shouldn't change your overall approach. A careful method will also minimize danger to Vaisset and Ayaka, the primary objective Vaisset had given you. (Compassion)I trust this individual, but he did just admit to a secret pact with another servant. We don’t have a nat 100 to save us from death every time!
>>3548819>[ ] Take Rider up on his offer of a duel. It may not have been your method in the last Grail War, but Saber is a far more direct Servant than Caster. The idea of cleanly defeating the one Servant you've encountered and taking a clear step towards victory excites you. (Duty)If this servant thinks that Ayaka is our Master then she isn't safe at all. Especially when we can't go into spirit form and guard her more closely as a normal heroic spirit can. Let's deal with the threat now and be done with it.
>>3548819>>[ ] Take Rider up on his offer of a duel. It may not have been your method in the last Grail War, but Saber is a far more direct Servant than Caster. The idea of cleanly defeating the one Servant you've encountered and taking a clear step towards victory excites you. (Duty)Probably not the best choice, but fuck it.
>>3548819>[ ] Turn Rider's idea down. As with the last Holy Grail War, you want to gather information and allies before any actual battle. You may not have Circe's abilities at your disposal anymore, but that setback shouldn't change your overall approach. A careful method will also minimize danger to Vaisset and Ayaka, the primary objective Vaisset had given you. (Compassion)Why would a servant refuse to speak about another servant? Possibly a trap. Possible chance of this becoming a 2 v 1 too.He's hoping to take advantage of our chivalry on account of our class being the most typical knight class.
>>3548819>>3548819>>[ ] Take Rider up on his offer of a duel. It may not have been your method in the last Grail War, but Saber is a far more direct Servant than Caster. The idea of cleanly defeating the one Servant you've encountered and taking a clear step towards victory excites you. (Duty)I'm fairly confident in our abilities even if it is a 2 v 1. Besides we can't actually assume it's a trap, if it is then we'll be able to better learn two enemy ServantsWe should advise caution however all things considered though
>>3548819>[ ] Turn Rider's idea down. As with the last Holy Grail War, you want to gather information and allies before any actual battle. You may not have Circe's abilities at your disposal anymore, but that setback shouldn't change your overall approach. A careful method will also minimize danger to Vaisset and Ayaka, the primary objective Vaisset had given you. (Compassion)He was kind enough to mention that he has, in fact, met with another servant, but he did also say he's been sworn to secrecy. It could easily be a trap.I should also think we've learned our lesson about organizing fights with enemy servants. The last time we did that, it killed Lancer and was our biggest mistake of the war.This next bit is metagame, so I don't think it should factor into our decision here, but it's easy to infer that this is Haruo's servant and therefore the partner of Archer and the mystery woman. Rider might be telling the truth about this one-on-one, but it's just as likely to end up as a trap if his master or allies get wind if it before it goes down.
Well, that makes a tie. Is the chance of a victory worth the risk of your first battle as a Servant?
>>3549688Looks like 5-3 to me boss.
>>3549688>Well, that makes a tie.I see 5C vs 3D.
>>3549696>>3549698I had been remembering it as 4-3 in favor of duty, and thought ID balanced it to 4-4. Never mind then.
>>3549688Our first battle as a servant has to come sooner or later. I just need something to happen all we're doing is talking so far
>>3551421Well if you wanted something to happen right away, why not vote for fighting him immediately?
>>3551433Because it's daytime and our master isn't here
>>3551433>"This is a War, isn't it?!">head lopped off
"A very unique suggestion indeed," you say, humor creeping into your tone. Finally you can't hold it in any more, and let out a guffaw. "But I, fufu... I, hahaha, have to refuse!" You grin down at the strangely youthful spirit. "Rider, you seem to have developed a severe misconception about me," you explain, getting a grip on yourself once more. "I'm not some martial-minded samurai or machismo-obsessed cowboy, ready to blindly accept and walk into a duel at such and such a time, in such and such a place, for honor's sake alone!" Of course, the only gunslinger you've met personally was far from the dueling type himself. Still, it is an archetype and the comparison brings your point home. "This is a war, Rider," you continue gravely, "and I could no more set aside what you call 'the scheming of the magi' than I could give up the blade that dubs me Saber." You shake your head in mock dismay at the foolish proposition. "I look forward to meeting you on the battlefield, Rider," you continue, "but if you can't understand why I'd be a fool to accept such a proposition, I expect you'll be killed by another before I have my chance at your life."Anger flares up in Rider's eyes, and he exclaims, "Developed a misconception? You're the one who was talking about how a hero couldn't bend on principle a minute ago! Now you laugh at the idea of a man-to-man fight, the most natural thing for any warrior worth the title! What kind of man are you, anyway?""One with a different idea of heroism from yours, plainly," you answer coldly. "I do cleave to my principles, Rider. They may be different from your own, but I am certainly true to them." Of course, now you're feeding the Servant a wholesale lie. You've never clung to any ideological principle, before or after your change in the Akeldama. Still, if you're going to represent yourself as a proper Servant; as a heroic spirit, however removed from the norm; you certainly can't represent yourself as a ball of pride, seeking improvement of your own station with no particular reason beyond the desire for personal gratification. "I believe," you declare, "in demonstrating fidelity by using the most certain methods to achieve my Master's ends. Catering to a warrior's pride by orchestrating a duel is far from the most efficient path to victory."Rider's expression is now utterly transformed by rage. "A view of things fitter for a slave than a knight," he spits. "You should be ashamed to call yourself Saber! In fact, maybe I'll cut you down right now!" To your shock, the air around Rider is filled with the shimmering light of a Servant's materializing equipment. He really is preparing to fight you, here in broad daylight!
Before Rider's weaponry can coalesce, however, the mood is shattered by the tolling of the lunch bell at school. Interrupted by the chimes, Rider looks for a moment as if he's snapped out of a trance. The materialization of his armaments stops as suddenly as it had begun, and calm returns to his features. "No," he says, "it can't be done now, can it? But mark my words, Saber! I'll be the one to put an end to you!"With this parting sally, Rider fades into spirit form and disappears from view. You feel his presence retreat to the opposite end of the street in front of Kyoutenkan Academy, though he doesn't actually leave. Given the discussion you've had, you suppose he doesn't trust you not to break into the school and attack his Master. After Rider retreats, though, the afternoon passes uneventfully. When Ayaka leaves her classes Rider remains at a safe distance as you meet her, and her gaggle of friends make a minimal fuss over you. What's new and exciting one day is ordinary and not worth commenting on the next day, apparently. Rider still waits in the same place as you and Ayaka depart. Either his Master is staying late at school, or he's being very careful to ensure you don't discover his Master's identity."Saber-san," Ayaka whispers, keeping her voice low enough that only you can hear as the two of you part ways with her schoolmates, "you seem worried. What happened with the Servant you noticed this morning?"Once you're well out of earshot of the other homeward-bound students, you answer. "It seems one of your schoolmates is a Master, Miss Ayaka. Like myself, the Servant was there to protect the student. I would warn you to be on your guard with another Master skulking about, but as you don't have a set of command spells for this person to detect, you should be safe." You pause for a moment, considering the matter. "Of course," you continue, "if you do find yourself in danger, you have only to call out for me. As long as that Master is there during your school hours, I'll be waiting by the gate to protect you. Remember that, Miss Ayaka.""Th-thank you, Saber-san," Ayaka replies demurely, not meeting your eyes. For a time, the two of you walk in silence after that, as you consider the ramifications of Rider's grudge against you and Ayaka turns in her mind whatever thoughts occupy a young girl. When you're about halfway back to the Shijou house, she speaks up again. "Isn't it a bit wasteful, though?""What do you mean," you reply. "What is it you feel is being wasted, and by what?""Well," Ayaka begins hesitantly, "I'm happy you're coming to Kyoutenkan to protect me, of course, but wouldn't it be better for you and Nii-san if you spent the time with him? I know the fighting is only at night, but you could make plans for the war or cooperate on deciding what magecraft could help you, and stuff like that, right?"
You chuckle dryly. "Your brother doesn't take a very active view of the War, Miss Ayaka," you say, putting Vaisset's acute disinterest as positively as you can. "He is not very fond of my presence either, and would very much rather have me guarding you than distracting him from his magical research with tedious details of the Holy Grail War. I too would hate to see a lovely young girl like you come to harm, so of course I have no qualms about the duty. We'll manage the War at night, have no fear.""If you say so..." Ayaka assents reluctantly, but the worry doesn't leave her voice. "Just be careful, alright Saber-san?""Of course," you say. "I will devote the utmost care to bringing victory to you and your brother."Ayaka sighs and mutters something you can't quite make out, before quickening her pace to accelerate ahead of you. During the conversation you've reached the Shijou house, and she hurriedly strides up the walkway and into the house, leaving you out in the yard. It's about 16:00, and you have a few hours before dark with no orders from Vaisset. How do you want to spend them?>[ ] Guard the manor until sunset, so you can bring Vaisset out and head downtown as quickly as possible. (Duty)>[ ] Return to the school and see if Rider is still there. Maybe you can track down his Master, or make a surprise attack on the Servant once darkness falls. You may have rejected a scheduled duel, but that doesn't rule out an impromptu battle. (Pride/Duty)>[ ] Go inside and talk to one of the Shijou siblings. Who, and about what? (Trait dependent on subject)>[ ] Kill time and get something to eat at the local shopping district. (Self-Preservation)>[ ] Do something else (Write in)
>>3551497>"A view of things fitter for a slave than a knight,"Calling it now, he'd be the first to die unless an third party intervenes. How's our hunger looking?
>>3551538Well, you last ate at breakfast quite early in the morning, and it's now about 16.
>>3551503>[ ] Go inside and talk to one of the Shijou siblings. Who, and about what?Tell Jean about our encounter with Rider.
>>3551421>I just need something to happen all we're doing is talking so far>3-post update of just dialogue...sorry, anon.
>>3551503>[ ] Guard the manor until sunset, so you can bring Vaisset out and head downtown as quickly as possible. (Duty)
>>3551503>[ ] Guard the manor until sunset, so you can bring Vaisset out and head downtown as quickly as possible. (Duty)>Pridefulness leads to Rider declaring he will slay usI’m simultaneously proud of and frustrated with Alberich
>>3551789>frustrated with AlberichKill the traitor.
>>3551789>>3551815I'm actually curious how the dialogue would've went if we were Compassionate or Dutiful.
>>3551831>sorry bro if we fight it'll hurt someone, and heroes don't hurt people>oh yeah I got you bro
>>3551835>oh yeah I got you broI think that we would have still refused if we were a Dutyfag, citing that one does not simply swear an oath to secrecy with an enemy.
>>3551863>sorry bro, I just don't trust you, it's not you it's me>I'm just not ready for a committed relationship. I have a girlfriend already actually>his fw
I just realized that the first one WAS the Compassionate scenario.>>3551950Rider did seem a bit flamboyant while interacting with us, didn't he?
>>3548817>Rider frequently gesticulates, conveying his attitude by vehement hand gestures as well as his widely ranging of tone of voiceMaybe not flamboyant, but he's definitely Italian.
>>3552046I think it would be fair to say that we're gonna be on all the Knights shit lists if they're all gonna be Lawfags too. Also,>Italian>from the country that brought to you l'opera>not flamboyant
>>3552079you got me there
>>3551831>>3551984No no, you picked the option that was motivated by compassion, not the option to be compassionate. Pride is your highest stat, and that isn't going to change without some real effort.
>>3551503>[ ] Kill time and get something to eat at the local shopping district. (Self-Preservation)We still need to eat. There's no telling what effect being hungry will have on our ability to fight.
>>3552197But we were talking about if Pride wasn't our largest stat.
>>3552293Right, I was thinking that >I just realized that the first one WAS the Compassionate scenario.referred to the option you picked. Carry on.>>3551538>Calling it now, he'd be the first to die unless an third party intervenes.What makes you think that, anon?
>>3552327Because the equally-chivalrous Saber was the first to die in our War.
>>3551503>[ ] Go inside and talk to one of the Shijou siblings. Who, and about what? (Trait dependent on subject)Tell him about Rider.Just eat some food from the house.
Tell Vaisset about Rider>>3551559>>3552686Guard the manor>>3551769>>3551789Go to the shopping district>>3552215By the way, how's that illustration of Alberich coming along, >>3526340?
>>3552705>Tell Vaisset about Rider>>3552686>some
After considering guarding the manor from the garden for a moment, you decide to follow Ayaka inside. You can get some lunch in the kitchen, and tell Vaisset about your encounter with Rider. As you walk in, Ayaka disappears around a corner, presumably headed for her room. You make your own way to the kitchen, where you fear you'll have to cook for yourself. Fortunately, this turns out not to be the case. The fridge contains several onigiri, presumably made and kept to serve as a between-meal snack, either for Ayaka while studying, or for Vaisset. In any case, you doubt either will blame you for eating them. You take several and wolf them down quickly, mitigating your hunger. As it turns out, they're filled with salt-baked salmon, powerfully flavored to contrast nicely with the unseasoned rice. All-in-all, an excellent snack.With food taken care of, you move on to your other task and descend into Vaisset's basement workshop. As you're going down the stairs, you hear the excited cry of, "Aha! At last!" followed by the sound of crackling flames. A pillar of fire briefly flares on Vaisset's worktable, you see as you enter the room. Just a moment later, though, the whirling cylinder vanishes, snuffed out all at once, and Vaisset lets fly with a flurry of cursing.Smirking at his mishap, you ask, "Trouble with your magic, M. Vaisset? What are you attempting there?""Synthetic transmutation of the Five Great Elements," he answers irritably. "It would revolutionize magecraft, if I could make it work. Hello, Saber. What are you doing down here, anyway?""I've come to report some valuable information to my Master," you say. "Of course, if you're too busy with your troubles, I don't mind waiting.""No, no, now is as good a time as any," he answers, gesturing for you to sit down somewhere. There are no seats in the workshop other than the one he's occupying. "I assume you've brought Ayaka home," he continues, "so what do you need to tell me? What is it that happened with that Servant at her school?""That is the subject, yes," you begin. "Rider is the Servant who was there. He approached me to challenge me to a duel tonight, of all things. Apparently his Master attends Kyoutenkan Academy and the fellow is eager to remove the danger I represent. Naturally I refused, as he was likely preparing a trap. He was still there when I collected your sister, and I was unable to identify his Master.""That tells us little," Vaisset says with dismay, "although you did do well to reject the duel. I'm sure it was an ambush. What about his appearance? Was there anything about him that gave you an impression of his identity?"
You shake your head. "He was wearing modern clothing, like myself, so I could gather nothing from his equipment. A fair youth with blonde hair and blue eyes; he seemed to be a Caucasian teenager, perhaps as old as twenty, but no older. He mentioned dueling as being appropriate for a knight, but I don't know whether that was a product of his origins or his expectations regarding my being Saber.""An enigma, then," Vaisset muses. "We shall have to hope for more information in the near future. Perhaps tomorrow you should stay at Kyoutenkan late into the evening with Ayaka, and find his Master in that way. Whether they leave together after the end of the normal classes or the Master ends up the last student there, I'm sure you could determine his identity."Shocked to hear this coming from the usually overprotective Vaisset, you exclaim, "You would endanger your sister in such a way?""Of course I hate for her to be in danger," he says dismissively, "but you'd be there with her, and she will surely remain in danger as long as a Master remains at the school. I want you to ferret out the enemy tomorrow, Saber. That is an order.""As you wish, M. Vaisset.""Now," he says decisively, getting to his feet, "I somehow doubt I will reach my goal tonight with this innovation. It should be getting dark soon, yes? Let's go and see if you can find the culprit for the strange events I observed downtown last night."Without waiting for a reply from you, Vaisset strides out of his workshop and up to the ground level. You follow him, and soon discover he's headed for the garage, where he gets behind the wheel of an expensive-looking black sedan. "Get in," he tells you through the window as he starts the car. "I assume the Holy Grail has made you aware of automobiles, yes?"You take a seat beside him and answer. "I understand them perfectly well. That said, I also have the impression that public transportation is the norm in this country. I was a bit surprised at your choice to drive."Vaisset scoffs. "Public transportation, indeed," he says derisively. "I love privacy in all my pursuits; there's nothing I despise quite like the experience of sharing a train with hundreds of other passengers, crowded in at rush-hour. Besides that, I quite enjoy driving.""At any rate, I'm sure it is the more convenient option," you reply, and Vaisset pulls out of the garage. The rest of the drive is silent, as the two of you cruise through Tokyo's evening. Vaisset evidently doesn't share his sister's prying curiosity as to your experience seeing the modern world. He's content to drive without making conversation.After about a half-hour, Vaisset pulls into a space in a downtown parking garage. As the car shuts down, he says, "this ought to be close enough. I believe we can overlook the same intersection my familiars were surveying last night from the roof of this building. Follow me, Saber."
He gets out of the car and you walk beside him, the two of you ascending the several remaining floors before roof access. Unfortunately, this building lacks an elevator, which means the two of you spend a good ten or fifteen minutes climbing the spiraling ramp, passing between parked cars. Aside from the vehicles, the garage is deserted; you don't see another living soul between your parking space and the roof. This is laid out identically to the floors below, with cars parked around the edge of the building. There's a cement wall to mark off the edge, but it's lower than waist-high. Nothing to impair your view, which is excellent. The high garage gives you a wide view of downtown Tokyo and the bustling crowd on the street below. Lights flicker in advertisement of all kinds of goods, services, and most frequently foods. People swarm down the sidewalk, looking for a moment of happiness on a Friday night. Cars move sluggishly down the street, momentum choked by the lights and the traffic.What you don't see is any sign of magical interference or conspicuous bad luck. Everything looks quite ordinary to you; pedestrians and vehicles alike. "Vaisset, there is nothing down there that suggests magical interference," you announce."Just so," he replies, looking up the street with you. "It's utterly different from what I saw through my familiars. And yet, that's the very same intersection there." He points, signaling one junction of streets among many. It remains quite ordinary to your eyes. "Perhaps they were only experimenting with an ability," he mutters, "or they intend to begin whatever they were up to only in the small hours of the morning."You don't get a chance to address this point, as your attention is suddenly commandeered by a far more pressing matter. You can feel the powerful energy of a Servant at the base of this building. You peer down and see a tall, heavily-built man enter the parking garage. Once he's in, the presence begins to quickly move towards you. However this man is climbing, it isn't at the same walking pace you and Vaisset used. You likely only have a few minutes before the unknown foe reaches the roof.>[ ] Tell Vaisset that a Servant is coming up towards you and wait for his appearance. (Pride)>[ ] Warn Vaisset that a Servant is on his way, and tell him to run. (Duty/Compassion)>[ ] Run away. You're not ready to engage a Servant you know nothing about. (Self-Preservation)>[ ] Do something else (Write in.)
>>3553414>[ ] Tell Vaisset that a Servant is coming up towards you and wait for his appearance. (Pride)KILL HIM
>>3553414>[ ] Tell Vaisset that a Servant is coming up towards you and wait for his appearance. (Pride)We know that regular humans ended up falling, constantly.
>>3553414>[ ] Tell Vaisset that a Servant is coming up towards you and wait for his appearance. (Pride)
>>3553414>[ ] Tell Vaisset that a Servant is coming up towards you and wait for his appearance. (Pride)Pls no Berserker
>>3553570Bitch, we kill Berserkers
>>3553414>[ ] Tell Vaisset that a Servant is coming up towards you and wait for his appearance. (Pride)Ideally, Vaisset will spend this fight in a safe place, and let's be real - the safest place in this building is right behind us.>>3553571I think you mean "seduce."That said, given that we haven't seen this man before, we've got about a 1/3 chance that this is Berserker (unless this is an Assassin so confident that it doesn't think using Presence Concealment is necessary).
>>3553571>ID:TOHSgo home Rin, you are drunk.
>>3554039>Direct assault assassinThis does sound like the kind of thing I'd do, doesn't it...
>>3553571>Bitch, we kill BerserkersI really want to know where you're getting this confidence, after your only fights with Berserker in City Akeldama resulted in you getting brutally murdered.
>>3554237We're allegedly a decently powerful servant instead of just a weird conceptual being that's slightly stronger than the average human like we were last time. I'm pretty excited to see our actual power as a servant now.
>>3554246You realize that we're going half-cocked, with our offensive option still sealed, right?
>>3554262It's not sealed though, unless I missed something. We just haven't made up a name for it yet.
>>3554285Unless the name prompt comes up mid-combat it's as closed to sealed as it can get.
>>3554285How do you activate a noble phantasm, anon?
>>3554301Shit. Well then what's the in-universe reasoning for us not having the name of our sword? Doesn't make much sense to me.
>>3554557It doesn't have a name. It isn't like you picked the thing up off the ground and don't know its name, it just doesn't have one. It was newly created when you became a Servant.
>>3554573Well I guess we'd better hope we come up with one soon. We've been wanting to for a while and the cloak just got named randomly out of our control
>>3554615First off, I wouldn't call the extensive voting I had you folks do regarding the names of your Noble Phantasms "having no control." It seemed to me that you'd reached a consensus regarding Kenotis as the name of your cloak.Regarding timing, something I've been trying to get across for a while is that the protagonist needs to take some time to reflect in order to have character growth or important conclusions.For example, determining your wish for the grail was a stat check when you decided to spend some time alone and meditate on what you really wanted in the park. Naming your cloak, similarly, occurred at a point when (a) the players had reached a consensus name and (b) Alberich had a long period of time to spend alone and let his mind wander. It was a moment of inspiration. The name for your sword will occur at a similar point.Finally, I'd like to point out that there is a write-in option at almost every choice. If you really want to sit down and name your Noble Phantasm ASAP (or do anything else for that matter), that's always an option. If there's something you've been "wanting to [do] for a while," the write-in option is there for you. I don't intend to restrict the players.
>>3554615>wanting another EXTENDED naming sessionThat'sHellYou'reWalkingInto.png.
>>3554698I guess I was also hoping we'd get a moment of inspiration for the sword's name if we ever had to actually wield it. Guess we're fucked now since that hasn't happened. Phoneposting btw.>>3553414Consider this a vote for naming our sword then.
>>3554725Alright, let's hear your name suggestion. Last I remember, people were still pretty divided.
>>3554752Can't find the list of names senpai. Got an idea though. What if we could absorb attacks through our cloak and projectile slash them back out of the imaginary numbers dimension with a sword attack?
>>3554840>the list of namesLückeklingeAdelheidLeereErebusTrennenDiaironEinteilungAufteilungVorschneider
>>3554840As for spitting things back out through the sword, the answer will always be "level up Transference". It might give us Magecraft C
>>3554988Don't forget, you also need Conversion. Mentioned that in the last thread.
>>3555009We could probably learn about Conversion this weekend.
>>3554752I like luckelinge
After considering the idea of having one or both of you flee the scene, you decide against it. It's after dark, you're in an isolated place, and only one foe is approaching. This is the ideal moment to face them and test your power as a Servant. You open your mouth to warn Vaisset, but he speaks up first."Saber, there's an enemy Master drawing near. Ascending the building, by the feel of it. Can you feel it too? Do they have a Servant with them?"You nod gravely. "That's right, M. Vaisset. I feel the Servant's presence approaching us; it seems Master and Servant are coming to face us together." You hold up a hand. "Don't move, now. The best thing we can do is battle them two against two. I know you're loath to fight, but I really must insist."Far from the cowardly response you expected, Vaisset actually lets out a dry chuckle. "I was thinking the same thing myself, Saber. I won't run. All we can do now is rely on one another, and trust that each man can defeat the enemy set before him.""Well said," you answer, and materialize your armament. The next few minutes are spent in tense silence as you wait, eyes trained on the slope that leads up to the roof from below, feeling the movement of energy as your foes make their rapid ascent up the garage's ramp. At last the man appears, running inhumanly fast on reinforced legs. Despite the imposing quality of his magic-aided movement, he's not particularly unusual to look at. The impression he gives is of a well-paid professional athlete, perhaps a middleweight boxer formally dressed for an interview. He's taller than average, but still an inch or two shorter than yourself, and obviously fit without being enormously bulky. The main wears a navy three-piece suit with white pinstripes, but it does little to work with his tan complexion and brown hair and eyes. As expected, he bears a jagged set of command spells on his right hand. As you're taking in the man's appearance, Vaisset hisses, "Harris! Damn!" In almost the same moment, the man sweeps out a hand and shouts, "Now!"His Servant materializes already rushing towards you as if shot from a gun, a startling gleam of silver in the moonlight. An enormous force of magical energy slices down towards you, it's only at the last moment that you can determine its precise location and parry. Even redirected, the force of the attack sends you sliding across the rooftop, your boots throwing up sparks as they scrape the pavement. There's a half-moment of stillness after the blocked attack, and you can survey your foe.Before you stands a slight, pale blonde girl, beautiful as a lily blooming in the moonlight, and clad in an azure gown reinforced with plates of shining steel armor. Though her diminutive stature and elfin features should project a sense of ephemeral weakness, the overwhelming force of her attack a moment ago dispels such illusions.
The enemy Servant looks at you out of eyes cold and hard as sapphires, probing for weakness, before raising her weapon to strike once more, cutting up from the left to bisect you at the ribs. You can only call it a "weapon," or a "thing," because it's quite invisible. A blade that can be observed only as concentrated energy distorting the air, of uncertain length and width. Again you're able to block the strike just in time, by reading her movements, but this time she doesn't let up, hammering your guard from every angle. She's faster than you are, and every strike hits like an explosion, unleashing a burst of magical energy so concentrated that the clash of your weapons casts light on the surroundings. From her posture and movements you can figure out that this girl-knight is wielding a two-handed sword. This, then, must be the other Saber, who was summoned before yourself. That knowledge doesn't held you much now, though. You're being forced back without a chance to counterattack, forced onto the defensive by the uncertain nature of that invisible sword. Even though you can read and predict her movements accurately, you can't keep up with her agility, and the force of her blows reverberates through your bones with every parried strike. At this rate, you won't be able to last long; you take hold of your cloak with your off-hand, preparing to activate Kenótis and absorb her blade. This will be all or nothing!In that moment of consideration, though, the other Saber strikes with an upward slash still more powerful than before, cutting into the central gap between the cloak's folds. Some victorious instinct must have given her an idea of its danger, damn it! Even if you activated it now it would be useless! You hastily block the attack and save yourself from being gutted, but the force is like an oncoming train. This is one attack you should have dodged. Status UpdatedThe burst of power in the other Saber's blow sends you flying backwards, crashing through the low cement wall, and dropping into the alley below, taking several levels of the next building's fire escape with you. When you finally land, it's on your back in a heap of crumpled iron that used to be a stairway. Fortunately you're unharmed, and you get to your feet enormously glad of the endurance that comes with being a Servant. As you're looking up to determine how you can climb the wall and return to the battlefield, you see the other Saber hop lightly over the side. She crashes into the cement on her feet, cracks spreading from her steel boots. Once again she levels her invisible blade at you, and with a dead end behind your back this is beginning to seem like the end of the line. Instead of attacking, however, she pauses for a moment, eyeing you, and then lowers it to speak.
"What manner of Servant are you, fighting me with that arming sword?" The tone of her question makes it feel more like a command than an invitation to discussion, an interrogative given from on high. "Give me your name, unknown knight, if you do not wish to be cut down as a nameless soldier."For a moment the humor of the question gets the better of you, and you have to suppress a smile. Your name and class... of course this other Saber must be confused. There shouldn't be two Saber-class Servants in the same War, but she can't point the fact out without revealing the nature of her hidden blade. You decide to play along with this regal girl's request. After all, perhaps something you can say will give you an opening."I am the Servant of the blade, Saber," you announce. "Alberich is my name. As a knight, I do not fear to give it, whatever the circumstances of the Holy Grail War may impel. What of yourself, dear lady? That hidden weapon of yours hides your nature well. It could be a battleaxe, a spear... anything, really."The girl's eyes widen in visible shock and indignation. "Saber," she echoes, "you call yourself Saber, and claim the honor of a knight with that shadow about you? Duplicitous trash!" She raises her sword again, preparing to charge in and strike from above.>[ ] How do you respond?
In the previous thread I wrote:>I'm thinking of opening up player freedom a bit more in Fate/Awakening Mirror compared to Fate/City Akeldama. VN-style choices will still be there for most things, of course, but with you now playing as a Servant, I feel it may be more thematically appropriate for you to write in your combat strategies and War intentions from time to time....and got a positive reception. That's finally coming into play in terms of combat here. I look forward to your strategies.
>>3555156>>3555172>>3555174FUUUUUUUUCK!OF ALL THE SERVANTS TO FIGHT FIRST, IT HAD TO BE THE ABSOLUTE WOOOOOOOOOORST!
>>3555176Hey, you folks wanted combat. Kept telling me about how pace was too slow, there was too much dialogue, combat needed to happen...Here's your combat! Pace ramped the fuck up for your reading pleasure!
>>3555156>Saber>Blonde>blue dress>Silver armor>smolAh fuck well lets not metagameAnyways we should try and find some way to blindside her and run away as we are very clearly outclassed at this point, I say using the environment.
>>3555188I'm pretty sure that was just one guy!>>3555192We have an arming sword, we could try to use Kenotis as a makeshift shield to force her attacks towards our extremities. Our objective MUST be to grab Vaisset and RUN.
>>3555176Well we are up shits creek, so we might as well put on our big boy pants and deal with the mess.
>>3555192We need to milk that Mind's Eye for all it's worth: it's the only way we'll stand a chance of beating her and that stupid busted Instinct A.Also, she's upset that we're claiming to be a knight and that the Grail War is broken AGAIN and we could use that against her.
>>3555193oh yeah we definitely have to grab our master and haul ass.
>>3555199Are we aware of the Shadow that she's talking about?
Also worth noting is that her Luck is two ranks below ours, at D, while her Strength is the same as ours and her Constitution is two ranks higher at A (apparently before Magical Energy Burst).Furthermore, we GAVE HER OUR NAME FUCK
>>3555174I was bullshitting earlier about Alberich being the real Saber, but that statline says we’re confronting the real Saber now.>Instinct A>Superior Agility and Endurance>Prettu tough NP which makes it tough to hang>And we haven’t named our NP which would allow us to counter hers.>Also, Vaisset is probably pretty badly outmatched by Harris right nowWe need to withdrawal, both ourselves and Vaisset. But, she’s fast enough to catch us pretty easily. Alberich won’t be able to win this fight straight up without the sword I’m pretty certain, so......Kite and fight defensively, preparing for her attacks as soon as we’ve fended off the last. Work our way towards Vaisset, and do not use the cloak unless the Saber commits HARD to a blow. In fact, the best way to play this might be to attempt to allow the Saber to injure Alberich as nonlethally as possible, and let her commit to a “finishing blow” which we can then attempt to use the cloak against. If we do manage to reach Vaisset intact, it’ll be time to command-spell out just like the damn Akeldama Saber. How unfortunate.
>>3555207Probably Kenotis. She must have seen Excaliburher sword disappearing into there because of her Instinct
>>3555209She has the actual good form of luck in goddamn precognition tho.
>>3555211>like the damn Akeldama Saber. How unfortunate.Anon, are ve zhe jobber?>>3555212Not that, I mean does Alberich knows what she's talking about?
>>3555216She can just tell he’s a evil mofo, nothing to it. Right?
>>3555216He'd surmise what I said, I think.>>3555215>Anon, are ve zhe jobber?Not till Jean dies.>does Alberich knows what she's talking about?Instinct is no substitute for actual Clairvoyance except in combat, although Alberich doesn't know that.
>>3555216>Not that, I mean does Alberich knows what she's talking about?You don't know about the HF shadow, no.>>3555209>we GAVE HER OUR NAME FUCKWhy are you worried about that? You have no legend.
>>3555226>Why are you worried about that? You have no legend.It ruins the mystery.And also tips her off to the fact that we're an abnormal Servant, since we're not the Dwarf she would expect from that name.
>>3555226>You don't know about the HF shadow, no.Then let's ask her what in the World's name she is talking about while we play keep away.
>>3555211>she's fast enough to catch us pretty easilySo its like that man running from the cheetah in that hallway. anyways I am saying we should give her a distraction from the environment. Or ... we quickly attack Harris and kill him while trying to take Vaisset and escaping. That is a huge ass gamble and would be super hard to pull off but if possible we could pull off a win. Its not like we are super prideful to not consider it.
>>3555231Huh. In the last thread, a couple of people were saying things along the lines of "once we have a name, we can tell other servants and send them on a wild goose chase," so I figured you'd want to do that here.
>>3555235Never gonna work, she’ll cut us down before we have the chance.
>>3555236A damn shame that we picked a named that's easily verifiable, then.
>>3555236I wasn't one of those people.I wanted to keep our name a secret, but now that the cat's out of the bag I'll just have to deal with it.
>>3555235>we quickly attack HarrisNo, we need to fully commit on retreating for now.
>>3555239Yeah that is what I was thinking, at least gave that idea a thought. AlsoWHAT KIND OF FUCKING CATALYST DID HE GET TO SUMMON ARTORIA? THE FUCKING SWORD?
>>3555244Maybe he was sponsored by the Einzberns? And they're trying two Servants this time so they have a backup in case he pulls a Kerry.It's useless to speculate at this point, though. maybe he used a fragment of the Round Table and got lucky
>>3555250Great now I am picturing a prize wheel on who could be summoned. While an old Einzbern bastard gets all showy about it. Joking aside I am 100% down for grabbing Vaisset and getting the fuck out. While we are safe afterwards we need to get that Sword NP working.
>>3555244>>3555250Well, I could tell you if you really want to know. I'm pretty sure Alberich won't get the chance to find out, so it wouldn't be a spoiler exactly. Kind of spoiler-ish, though...
>>3555254>we need to get that Sword NP working.And get ourselves stronger, somehow.
>>3555257We need to do some training, learn Magical Energy Burst and Transference sp we can do things with our NPs.But now we need to prolong this battle somehow and figure out a way to get to Jean.
So we agree that the game plan is to have Saber beat us into Jean and have him Spell us out, only using Kenotis to absorb her more dire attacks or force her to change their course?
>>3555260Reminder: you and Saber are in an alley about 10 storeys down from the roof where Vaisset and Harris are.
>>3555260That seems like it would only work in the long term, since her Instinct would warn her just before se went through with it.
Hell, we could just ask him to use a Spell with our telepathy, but that would give Harris time to shoot him.
>>3555262Ascending the garage will be easy enough when we get there, we just have to jump through the floors, making sure not to hit any pillars.
>>3555262Wait so Harris and Vaisset are by themselves? Should we trust Vaisset to kill Harris?
>>3555268>Should we trust a Magus to kill a Magus Killer?>but Kirei--"No."
Yeah, what's the best way to maneuver ourselves around her towards the garage? I feel like we'll be giving the cloak--and our Master--a serious stress test.
If we're in an alley, there should be two buildings to our sides, we could cloak through either of them and try to pass her that way.
>>3555288I'm going to risk sounding like a broken recorder and say we need to stretch out the battle, at least a little. If it's too short then ArturiaSaber's Instinct A overwhelms our Mind's Eye C, but if we take too long then Harris kills Jean and we lose anyway.What we need to do is attack her emotionally, using her quick temper, by talking chivalrous and fighting dirty, since she's better than us in pure skill and strength and she can avoid Kenotis. If we can trip her up and force her to make a mistake like Diarmuid did we can negate the advantages she has and escape to Jean.We could also try asking Jean to get to momentary safety and pop a Command Spell, then rush in and kill Harris before Saber can catch up or he can use his own Spells.
>>3555295I still don't think that we should push our luck with trying to kill Harris; just grab Vaisset and bail.
>>3555320Getting out is definitely the priority, but if we have the time we could try to take a potshot at Harris to put him out of commission.Now, the question is "How do we get out?"
>>3555334By getting ourselves between her and the garage and having her push us back into it, it would be an almost straight ascent with Kenotis after that. Then we tell Vaisset to make sure to position himself in a way that would put our cloak between him and Harris, giving him the window required to safely use a seal. It doesn't have to be too obvious or immediate but time is of the essence.>>3555295>What we need to do is attack her emotionally, using her quick temper,We could also go the route of ignorance and deny that we know what she's talking about.
>>3555174SOMEBODY PICK UP THAT FUCKING PHONE BECAUSE I CALLED IT.
>>3555339>We could also go the route of ignorance and deny that we know what she's talking about.
I think the appropriate battle plan here is "AAAAAAAAA SAVE ME EMIYA". Not really but we should mention how our cloak is actually a gift from a Goddess and asking her what the fuck she's so angry about.Then getting back to our Master would probably be our best bet. Don't forget to mention how we gave our name and it's only chivalrous that she does the same, refusal to makes her a far more duplicitous knight than us.Put me down for Luckelinge for sword name. Imagine if we went Assassin.
Hey, if the plan works we could end up getting Knight Tactics, that skill Diarmuid has to force opponents to make mistakes.That would make us even more of a combat monster by mitigating our critical weakness to people who can see the future.
>>3555386>picBecause I want her to not be too pissed off to give us any answers.
>>3555443I don't think she would give us answers either way. I want to go for maximum ass-shattering. and that post was also me
>>3555444Eh, I don't like it...I just hope Saber doesn't visit the Emiya house before us, after this.
>>3555450It's unlikely she will.We aren't in Fuyuki and she has no reason to think Emiya would be around.
>>3555455AnywayGood news!Now that Saber is here we know that Mana Burst/Magical Energy Burst is a thing that exists!
>>3555458Now the questions are whether we can replicate that or Vaisset can sustain it.
>>3555458Now we need to tear through Jean's library.Sweets is in a basement somewhere, snickering at our presumption in thinking we'll make it out.
>>3555472She uses it to battle at a Servant's level because she's still alive, doesn't she? And Go-Go Lion can support Mordred well enough that her Strength is B+ in Apocrypha.I think Jean can support it well enough.
>>3555174>first fight>oh boy let's get it on>it's fucking Kerry Dos>his servant is fucking Artoria>effectively unbeatable when properly suppliedNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAlright boys, bullshit time.First, a question: Sweets, it's clear that we don't know anything about the HF shadow, but are we able to surmise that Saber is insulting our cloak? That might heavily color Alberich's reaction given that it's all he has left of Circe.If we do figure out that she's talking about the cloak, I see potential for some metagamey misunderstanding bullshit to try to get us out of this one like what we did with Shirou. I get that people might not be on board with that, though, so I'll offer another plan in the meantime:We're in an alley, boxed in on three sides by walls and one by Saber, so kiting will have incredibly limited effectiveness unless we can get a direction to move in. I recommend we try intercepting Saber when she launches at us by launching at her in turn while she's off the ground with a Kenótis shoulder check. In the impossibly ideal case, she's too slow and gets eaten. More likely, she'll I N S T I N C T that bad shit will happen if she takes it and will instead jump over us, which will give us a direction to move in and fight defensively.
>>3555606>That might heavily color Alberich's reaction given that it's all he has left of Circe.What the fuck did you just fucking say about my fucking cloak, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in Kyoutenkan Academy, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Akeldama, and I have over 1050 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top Saber in the entire Inner Grail War. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me in a Tokyo Grail War? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting Circe's secret network of familiars across Japan and your Magical Energy signature is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the World of Imaginary Numbers and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>3555174"A duplicitous knight for a duplicitous war. "We gotta fucking name our sword ASAP. Like right now.
>>3555606>>3555626>Oi Saber, what did you say about her cloak?
>>3555715>inb4 we 7-page muda her
>>3555752She will 7-page us anon
>>3555769With that attitude, she will.
>>3555781In our current state, she will.
>>3555606>First, a question: Sweets, it's clear that we don't know anything about the HF shadow, but are we able to surmise that Saber is insulting our cloak? That might heavily color Alberich's reaction given that it's all he has left of Circe.Well, let's see now. The line is "with that shadow about you," and you have a black sword, black underclothes below your white armor, and a black cloak with red stripes.The most obviously shadowy thing you have would be the sword, but that's not really "about you."I'd say the most likely response is "that shadow about me? What could she mean? Surely not Kenotis, it has these red stripes."I just can't see someone not familiar with what the shadow looks like in HF looking at a cloak with red stripes and calling that a shadow.
>>3555782Unless we bootleg Magical Energy Burst, she will.
>>3555786>I just can't see someone not familiar with what the shadow looks like in HF looking at a cloak with red stripes and calling that a shadow.Well, it's always around him, covering and concealing his body, and it's an imaginary black hole that sucks up everything. If you were particularly imaginative you could call it Alberich's shadow.
>>3555814Seems a bit of a stretch, I think it would make more sense that he would question what she means by shadow.
>>3555192>>3555193>>3555199>>3555211>>3555235>>3555260>>3555295>>3555339>>3555386>>3555392>>3555606Are all the posts with ideas for what to do next.Now to stitch all of this into a coherent plan.
>>3555822Of course he would.I'm not suggesting he wouldn't, and that wasn't a justification, just an implausible reason someone would call the cape a "shadow".
>>3555174>It's the great King of Knights herselfOH HOW I'VE BEEN LUSTING FOR THIS CONFLICT TO HAPPEN.>>3555606This seems to be the best option to go for, that and we need to rile her up. Chivalrousness and anger mix like milk and oil.>"I'm duplicitous? I gave you my name on the honor of a knight! You have yet to give your's AND you conceal your weapon compared to me, if anything it's YOU who is the cur between you and I. From what I can gather you're more of an deceitful and underhanded Assassin than a noble Saber, so tell me your name and reveal your weapon before if you are a TRUE Saber! I can only hope you're not a fake that will disappoint me and besmirch my honor claiming it for yourself.
>>3555828>Now to stitch all of this into a coherent plan.I'm waiting, anon.
>>3556042This is what you asked for with the freeform voting man, you're probably gonna have to stitch it together yourself.
>>3556051I may well have to, yes, but anon did volunteer.
>>3556055Ok so, plan seems to be to ask Saber what the fuck she's talking about, declare that it sounds like she's inventing a convenient excuse for hiding her identity by besmirching our honour with some nonsensical statement. Then say that she herself is a duplicitous knight. Then somehow getting her to beat us out of the alley before running.Not duscussed but we should throw a car or rock at Harris or something.
>>3555174I say we continue to enrage her, make her lose focus on what really matters, aka her master. Then we return to the roof and take out the master.
>>3556055I won't be available for a few hours, but if nobody's done it by the time I am then I'll put something together.
>>3556042So the main elements of the plan are:>Delaying>Pissing her off>Maneuvering ourselves into a position to escape through the garageSo the final plan is:>Continue to piss her off by talking like a knight and demanding that she stick to the same standards, since she seems to take it seriously. Move around slowly so she's not between us and the Masters, capitalizing on the distraction our taunting will cause, then run for dear life, either breaking through or using Kenotis to make a path. Optionally, ask Jean at some point to help us with a Command Spell if he can get a moment's reprieve from Harris.The rough plan, subject to smoothing and fine-tuning by Mind's Eye.
>>3556859Oh, and get to Jean and either flee with him or kill Harris. But that's a given.
>>3556859>>3556980I still want to know what she means by "shadow though", so maybe ask that beforehand.
>>3556859Two quick suggestions:Deny knowledge of the "shadow" she's speaking of.Circling isn't really an option since we're pinned in an alley and there's no room to circle. The only way out is through, whether Saber or the wall.Aside from those two things, I'm on board.Side note - Sweets, Saber can dematerialize but also has her memories from the last war. Is that a mistake or is there horseshit afoot?
>>3557003>SpoilerThere's a simple explanation, but Alberich isn't really enough of a magus to recognize it. For now I'll just say that it looked like she was dematerialized.
>>3557003>spoilerThe most plausible explanation is a Magecraft that lets her become intangible; the next explanation is Einzbern bullshit; the least plausible explanation is Merlin bullshit.
>>3557038>lookedThen it's invisibility.She was covering herself with the Invisible Air, wasn't she?
There is one more thing I should point out, to people who want to name the sword.In "Lückeklinge", "klinge" is the blade of a knife (including a messer) or a shiv. The correct word would be "schwert", referring to a general sword.
>>3557318Well, I have to say Lückeschwert would sound better.
Hey Sweets is it possible for Vaisset to force out our NP with a command seal even if we don't know the name?
>>3557384You'd have to try it to find out.Everyone, I have to tell you I won't be able to update tonight. Sorry once more, I'll be working on the update again tomorrow.
>>3557419Fingers crossed that we actually made it through.>inb4 this is like one of those early bosses that we're supposed to lose against.
>>3558708This is what happens when you bring a tool to a sword fight.
>>3558723>a toolHey, don't be so hard on yourself!
>>3558746The only tool in that sense is True Saber.
>>3558708This is the obligatory “our pride gets Vaisset killed, we evilly hide the truth from Ayaka, and gain her as our new preferable master” moment
>>3558752>we evilly hide the truth from AyakaWhy would we need to hide it?
>>3558762Just hiding the fact it really is our fault>>3558763>pic related
>>3558770"Oh no, my Master got killed, what a tragedy. I'd probably care more if he didn't decide to kill over a thousand people in order to summon me. Now if you'll excuse me but I have to go bye!"
>>3558770To be fair, that overpowered Saber knocked us away from Vaisset, leaving him against Kerrymerica(?), so it can't be helped.
>>3558775Anon, we’d be hiding our culpability from the sister who he essentially sacrificed himself to protect.
>>3558781Oh no I was just saying because it would confuse Saber further.
>>3558775That shit was pretty inefficient too. All those servants and 1000 something people made us into a decent but not amazing servant.
>>3558794That was Judas’s Fault for being trash. Sweets, would Alberich be more powerful if we had orchestrated the deaths of Longinus, Adelheid, and Circe prior to killing Iscariot?
>>3558804>SpoilerThe lore answer is yes.The meta answer is no, because if I made you more powerful at the start of Awakening Mirror there'd be less of a challenge, weaker tension, and insufficient room to grow.
>>3558815Good to hear
>>3558815>and insufficient room to grow.Speaking of growth, how are we going to raise our parameters to at least keep up with Lionfag?
>>3558889Hard training. Alberich needs to bench press trains and practice running up mountains
>>3558968>>3558994But who will be our partner?
>>3559169the High Jump Retard.
>>3558889Get trained and roided up by Rin?>>3559176It's about 7PM for Sweets and we all know he's been busy as of late. Cut the man some slack.
Does the imaginary numbers realm have the same limitations toward magecraft as the natural world, like equivalent exchange and whatnot?The reason I ask is because my sleep deprived brain just came up with an idea involving performing magecraft within the imaginary numbers realm and bringing its effects out into the real world via cloak or sword to bypass those limitations. Would that be possible? Would the magical cost required to bring the magic from the imaginary numbers to the real world be less than the magical energy saved by casting a spell in a realm that doesn't actively resist the mages influence? This is either really stupid or brilliant, please tell me what you guys think.
>>3559518Also time flows differently in the imaginary numbers realm, could we use that to our advantage to circumvent the time required to perform incantations? I'm just spitballing here.
>>3559518>hey guys maybe toka koka didn't real in the Age of GodsDon't forget the basis for the realm of Imaginary Numbers. If it couldn't be done in the Age of Gods, it can't be done there now.>>3559582Stuff that goes into the other realm doesn't really leave, we don't understand the difference in time flow, and I'm not even sure Alberich even really knows what an incantation is.Stop taking autism pills and call your doctor immediately if you experience retardation lasting more than 4 hours.I jest, but in all seriousness, get some sleep. I think you need it.
>>3559518>>3559582>>3559679I should mention that I'm not trying to shit on you for trying to come up with a way to get the most out of our powers, I just don't think this particular idea is going to get us very far.
>>3558968Don't forget, we need to do it in the wilderness like Soujuurou did. That guy shat on a 3000 year old Elemental.
>>3559679I'll be honest, I don't have the same autistic knowledge base of fate that you seem to. Thanks for at least responding though. We need more discussion about shit like this if we're ever gonna git gud
>>3559752ID was referring to facts I gave you in City Akeldama, though, not just in base Fate lore.
Calling on a sense of besmirched honor you do not possess, you contort your features into a mask of fury. "Duplicitous," you roar, "you would call me duplicitous? Girl, you shame your own tongue! I have given you not only my class but my name, despite the imperative to secrecy that lies on us!" You flourish your sword, leveling the point accusingly at her. "Yet you stand there, unnamed, of uncertain class, with even your weapon dishonorably hidden, and call me duplicitous! And what is this matter of a shadow, hmm? Surely one who fights with hidden blade is not unnerved by a battle in darkness."The other Saber maintains her glare, seemingly unmoved by your rhetoric. When she answers, it's in an icy tone. "I have no need to give my name to one about to die. I will, however, tell you how it is that I see through your duplicity. I am the Servant Saber, impostor. Now, as you have forfeited the opportunity to leave a name behind you, die!"Magical energy explodes from beneath the girl's feet with a roar and she rushes toward you like artillery fire, bringing her sword up from the right to cut into your ribs. With no chance to dodge backwards, you block her strike with your own blade vertical, letting the force of the impact slam you into the parking garage wall to your left. You roll in the air, however, and splay out your cloak behind you. As you impact, you call, "Kenótis!"There's no impact. You pass through the wall as if through a fogbank, landing on your feet in the garage. Saber pauses for a moment, startled, but quickly regains her senses and leaps through the hole after you. You don't wait for her to catch up, though, instead fleeing up the ramp toward the roof. It's plain from your first battle against her that you can't match this woman. Your only chance now is to make it back to Vaisset and Harris, and kill the enemy Master before she can defeat you.'M. Vaisset!' You reach out to him frantically. 'Use a command spell to return me to your side! Harris' Servant is beyond me, but if I can kill the Master that should be the end of it.'Vaisset's answering thoughts are scattered and distracted. 'Saber, you're still... I'm not sure I can get the opportunity. Hold out as long as you can...'There's nothing more after that. For a short time, it seems as if you can keep the chase up, but with a burst of energy Saber closes the distance on the third floor of the parking garage. As you feel her presence approach from behind, you whirl and parry a cut coming for your neck, but lose your momentum in the process. The two of you are on level ground once again, and Saber brings the point of her sword level with the center of her body, ready to strike from any angle. You can feel the tension in the air. If you're not perfect, the next strike will kill you."I will ask you one more time," Saber says coldly. "Explain yourself, and the shadow that clings to you."
"I tell you I don't know what you're talking about," you insist furiously. This time your indignant tone isn't feigned; this is the second time she's brought up a shadow, and you have no idea what she's trying to refer to!Perhaps you've gotten through to her this time, as your words seem to startle the girl more than before. She makes a complicated expression, difficult to interpret, before finally replying. "That thing that hangs from your shoulders," she says, eying it with visible disgust, "the consuming shadow you wrap about yourself. How do you bear it, and why do you claim the title of Saber?""There is nothing to explain," you say with irritation, "my cloak is simply a magical ability of mine, a piece of my legend, as your invisible blade is a piece of yours. As for my being Saber, is it not clear from my weapon? You simply must accept that there are two Saber-class Servants fighting in the Holy Grail War." For a moment you drop your guard, feigning contemplation. "In fact," you mutter, then raise your voice. "Have you fought any other Servants before tonight, Saber?""I have not," she answers, tone still laden with suspicion. "What is your point?""Perhaps we are in some modified Holy Grail War," you suggest, "and all seven Servants are Sabers. After all, how much do we really know about the process? Very little, surely."Saber is having none of your disingenuous speculation. "Absurd," she spits. "Whatever the secret of your nature may be, this is your end, False Saber." She readies herself for a thrust that will pierce your throat and decapitate you, and with the grace of a pouncing lion-Stops. She's motionless for several seconds, then her eyes move back and forth several times. She nods. Finally, the presence of her invisible blade vanishes from her hands. "It seems you are not allowed that mercy," the woman declares. "My Master has ordered me to let you die in your own way. Goodbye, False Saber."With that, the icily regal woman turns and leaps out the window, vanishing into back-alley darkness. A sinking weight settles on your heart. If you're to be allowed to "die in your own way," that can only mean one thing. With frantic urgency, you rush up to the parking garage rooftop, covering the ascent in leaps and bounds, wasting your diminishing energy supply in your urgent need for confirmation. No deliverance comes upon reaching the rooftop, unfortunately.The first thing that greets your eyes is an unreasonable expanse of vivid red. The entire rooftop, from end to end and corner to corner, seems to have been painted with blood. As you look further, you can see that there is texture to the general carnage. Strewn about the area are unidentifiable chunks of flesh and varied fragments of bone. Scraps of cloth litter the scene as well, but nothing is whole or even in large parts. There is little doubt that your anchor in this world has been thoroughly destroyed.
As you stand, staring in shock at the carnage, you suddenly feel a connection, a strange metaphysical pulling at your soul, and without warning the world around you warps. A girl's voice resounds in your ears; Ayaka's voice, in fact, calling, "Nii-san, Saber-san, come back! What's going on?"Then your vision resolves again, and you're standing in Ayaka's bedroom. The lamp on her bedside table is still dark, and the only light is that of the moon, coming through a gap in the curtains behind her. She's sitting up in bed, wearing a white silk nightgown that shimmers in the moonlight, and staring the back of her right hand with an expression of terror. Words pour out of her mouth in a rush as she asks, "Saber-san, what happened? I woke up and these were back on my hand, is Nii-san alright? What's going on?">[ ] How do you respond?
>>3558752Alright, anon, now that I've finally gotten the update posted I have one simple question. How did you know?
>>3560035Man, I have absolutely no idea how we're going to break this news to Ayaka."Whoops looks like your brother got turned into a red stain, wanna help me torture the man responsible to death?"He should've just used a command spell.Can't wait to shit talk Saber when we get stronger, nice knightly honor you've got there.Seriously though how the fuck do we break this news?
>>3560035>he had a failsafe that made Ayaka the new Master...Clever?>How do you respond?"Miss Ayaka, M. Vaisset and I left to investigate the events downtown, and we were bushed by an enemy Servant. In the fight... he was bested by the enemy's Master. His last wish was for me to protect you."Give her a minute to process it."I know you must want to grieve, but at the moment that is sadly impossible. You are now my Master, and for better or worse our fates are bound together." Use our Charisma as much as we can for this line.
>>3560045I considered the options, and came to the conclusion that we could probably last longer against Saber compared to Vaisset against Harris. Thematically it made sense as we’ve shown nothing but contempt for the man and rebounding on the opportunity his death creates could be a great “showing his nature” moment for Alberich. Also, so far aside from a few nasty dead-ends Alberich’s extreme pride has led to few real consequences. This seemed like the perfect moment to have something happen, due to his new position as a servant.>>3560035“My sincerest apologies Ms. Ayaka, but I have failed your brother. He perished in combat with the abominable William Harris. It seems he provided a magical means for the transference of his command seals to yourself, that he may provide for your protection even in death. Magus, you who have been bound to me. I ask of you: will you be my Master?"
While we're at it, what do we do now?The issues we face now are:>Ayaka will probably be too traumatized to work effectively>Tokyo's supervisor is gone, so the Magi can do whatever they like unless Ayaka can take over>Any defensive measures Vaisset placed are likely gone>Ayaka's weaker than Vaisset, and Harris will definitely kill her if they meetThe advantages that we've suddenly gained are:>Ayaka's more compliant and easier to manipulate than Vaisset>Because of that, we have a free run of the mansion>Harris and Arturia think we're dead, which gives us time to prepareIn light of this, I say we hunker down for a while and learn everything we can from Vaisset's library, and have Ayaka send familiars to scout the city if she's of sound enough mind to participate.Over the coming days, we should try to get her to believe that she can leave the planning and fighting to us and just do as we saytrust our advice.
>>3560077Yeah, but I wouldn’t limit ourself to pure academic study. We need to work on our physical parameters. Agree with most everything else. I do believe Ayaka needs to get some magical abilities under her belt as well.
>>3560082>Yeah, but I wouldn’t limit ourself to pure academic study. We need to work on our physical parameters.That too.
>>3560082We can also attempt to do a bootleg Magical Energy Burst. Really annoy Saber next time we meet. Then again in our next meeting I intend to kill her and her master. Oh right and we can also tell Ayaka about Emiya and pals, probably. Wonder how Shirou will react to Saber being back. But yeah, levelling our agility and eye of the mind up will really help.As will learning how to do more shit with our Noble Phantasms.
>>3560089Do you suppose our NPs might level up if we learn to do shit with them?...Do you suppose we could fake the shadow NP we would've had as Assassin if we did?
>>3560093Can you imagine how this encounter would've gone if we did look like the Shadow?Saber would've been fucking terrified.
>>3560095We would've ganked both of them if we had the shadow (or rather, we would've ganked Harris and Arturia would've dodged, but poofed back to Avalon anyway).
Should we reveal the whole truth about our situation to Ayaka since she already somehow recognized us when we first met?
>>3560098Probably not now. It would only shock her more.
>>3560099Yeah I agree that now isn't the time. Just a thought.
>>3560096She would've been poofed back to her dying moments, not Avalon.She only gets to go to Avalon when she accepts the end.I somehow doubt Harris is the sort to take her on dates and buy her Lion plush toys so she's shit out of luck on finding peace on this one too.Better luck next war Saber.Hilariously if she actually wins a war and undoes her kingdom her reward is being a counterguardian iirc.But I want to be much stronger for our next battle with her.Sparring with Emiya and Rider of Fuyuki might help, and Rin will be here soon if we want to ask her to teach us some magecraft or whatever. I wish Circe and Adelheid were here to help us gank Saber and Harris.not a single post that wants us to be nice to Saber, I'm so proud.
>>3560104>She would've been poofed back to her dying moments, not Avalon.>She only gets to go to Avalon when she accepts the end.same difference>Sparring with Emiya and Rider of Fuyuki might help, and Rin will be here soon if we want to ask her to teach us some magecraft or whateverAll of this except learning from Rin. She'll want to know how a Saber is aware he can use Magecraft but doesn't know anything except energy control, she'll ask too many questions we shouldn't answer.>spoilerWhat do you take us for, waifufags? We accept only Alberich here
>>3560104>Spar with Emiya and Old!RiderGenius, didn’t even think of it.>SpoilerFuck Harris and Fuck her, not even as gratifying of an opponent as Archer.
>>3560106I mean, we already told the Emiya crew we weren't always a servant. >>3560107Yeah Saber's whining is already irritating. Wouldn't mind tracking down Harris' base and cutting the supports. Or whatever.Saber wants to play like it's the fourth war then lets fucking play.I really REALLY want to sunder Excalibur. Then we can shit talk her and say she has no right to call herself a king, much less the king of knights.
>>3560115>I mean, we already told the Emiya crew we weren't always a servant.maybe they thought "no shit, you have to die before you become a heroic spirit"Shirou's too singleminded to think about that when a new Grail War's happening, Sakura's got too much PTSD going on to think about that and Medusa's probably waiting to spring the question on us?
>>3560140So you're saying that we need to...?
>>3560181YesYes.And we need to tell Shirou about True Saber at some point.
>>3560231>forcing the Seigi no Mikata to choose between us and ArtoriaSomething tells me that wouldn't turn out well, even if this one isn't in love with her like the Fate Route, but Alberich wouldn't know that.
>>3560231That'll be a fun one.On a scale of 1-"Saber destroy the grail" how badly will Saber take it if we manage to convince Rider along to fight her 2 vs 1?Man Shirou really isn't going to enjoy this.>1000 people dead already>Masters killing in incredibly bloody ways>Saber is back but is linked to Kerry 2I wonder how long it will take Shirou to realise who exactly we're talking about when we start giving a description of Saber.
>>3560237>Heavens Feel Shirou>Seigi no MikataI mean not really. Also he literally knew Saber for a few days 15 years ago before he had to murder her because she turned evil.
>>3560035I guess Vaisset probably had some sort of advanced False Attendant's Writings... he never did show us his command spells, did he?Gotta start planning. I say we:>Name the sword ASAP.It'll be our ace in the hole against Artoria next we meet, and she may charge headlong into getting Excalibur chopped since she'll think we can't do it given that we didn't when we had the chance. Are we cool with Lückeschwert?>Contact the Emiya crew and let them know that Kerry Dos has the strongest servant we've met in either Grail War.We're dealing with Kerry Dos + Saber, the Barthomeloi proxy, Rider's grudge, and now a master who's been turned into mist by Killer Queen (Kerry Dos' origin weapon, maybe?). I think it's safe to say we're going to need help.>Study Vaisset's materials.Maybe between us, Ayaka, and perhaps even Rin, we can get something useful out of it. Synthetic transmutation of the Five Great Elements would be absurdly powerful. Perhaps if we can accomplish that, we can even make use of our gateway to the realm of Imaginary Numbers like an anon already suggested. If we want to get mana out of a dimensional door, though, Rin is definitely the woman to talk to.>Learn Mana Burst.I'll think of a way to break the news to Ayaka soon.>>3560237This is Heaven's Feel Shirou, remember. This wouldn't be the first time he's killed Artoria for the sake of his ideals.>>3560243He'll probably get suspicious when we say "pretty little blonde girl," his heart will sink when he hears "armored blue dress," and he'll curse the grail for being an asshole when it gets to "invisible sword."
>>3560243>how badly will Saber take it if we manage to convince Rider along to fight her 2 vs 1?>implyingNo, we're going to end her by our blade, ourselves. I want her last thoughts to be that she was bested by the """False""" Saber that she treated in such an unknightly manner, before we remove her head from her shoulders.Disregard my last post, I suck cocks.
>>3560263I'm cool with Lückeschwert.I didn't much care for Vaisset but I'm somewhat upset by the way he went out.I wish Circe was here just so we could give Harris a suitably pathetic death.Poor Shirou though.>>3560264She's also in the service of a cold-blooded killer.Also I really really want to cut Excalibur in half just for how priceless the look on her dumb face will be when she realises just how fucked she is.
What would merging the world of imaginary numbers with the real world look like? Would that be advantageous to us considering our origin?
>>3560284>imposing a foreign realm upon the "real" WorldThat sounds like a bad idea.
>>3560288That sounds like a potential Reality Marble ripoff.
>>3560304Yeah, would there be any benefit to us projecting the qualities of the imaginary realm in a small area around us via our cloak or something? Just a small bubble that would synergize with our element and origin, not to mention possible time fuckery.
>>3560311>create a bounded field with our cloak that plunges everyone into imaginary number space>use conversion to escape>alberich's fw
>>3560352>throw two servants into imaginary number space>servants don't go through grail as they would when dying>war cancelled
Also, since one of the options for the enchanted items Circe could make was a bow whose arrows could enter and exit the imaginary numbers realm, I don't think it's too far of a stretch for us to redirect attacks between our cloak and sword. Phoneposting if anyone cares.
>>3560352Fuck yeah. I'm at least behind making a specialized bounded field if we can. Our soul is permeated by the imaginary elements so it's bound (heh) to be interesting.
>>3560363Meh, we'll just flex and shit out Chaldea mid-jump, that'll give us enough Servants for everyone to make a wish.
>>3560363This is a valid concern; it's considered it's own World, with its own laws and everything. No doubt that if you die there you're gone for good.
>>3560386Presumably we'd have to level up Conversion a metric Aston to get to that point, so we could theoretically just expel their souls from Imaginary Number Space and they'll go to the Grail as intended.Although I really don't want to find out, and we may never find out.
>>3560385Y'know I think Tiamat's still in there. We could Bayonetta it.
>>3560445>we couldBut should we?Maybe we should summon GG and Eresh to be safe.
>>3560445>BeastmommyWell, if there's one thing I know for sure, she wouldn't see us as a human.
Should we wear our helmet some time?
>>3560586>Should we wear our helmet some time?That's something worth thinking about. >>3560077>she can leave the planning and fighting to us and just do as we sayHey, just like Kikuko and Archer!>>3560095>Can you imagine how this encounter would've gone if we did look like the Shadow? Saber would've been fucking terrified.Awakening Mirror would be very interesting if you'd gone Assassin.>>3560115>Saber wants to play like it's the fourth war then lets fucking play.Does she, though?>>3560284>What would merging the world of imaginary numbers with the real world look like? Would that be advantageous to us considering our origin?Bad. Bad is how it would look. To quote myself on the Realm of Imaginary Numbers: >Imagine a world where the number i takes the place that 1 holds in our world, for all operations of physics and any other situation in which numbers appear. Everything is founded on imaginary principles. This is the realm of imaginary numbers. It's utterly alien to beings based in reality, so much so that our eyes can't process the light and our ears can't detect the sounds. This is why, when the Extra protagonist is sent there, they perceive it as an empty black void. Nevertheless, Imaginary Numbers is a world, full of imaginary objects. That's why opening a portal with your cloak doesn't just immediately suck in all the air around you, and why you have to actively push an object through the portal.You don't want to layer that on the real world.>>3560363This is also a valid concern.>>3560366It's possible, but you need to massively improve your magic acumen.>>3560385???
>>3560704Dunno if you've kept up with Grand Order, but tldr; Chaldea's base got fucked by Bad Guy of Part 2 and have packed everyone into an ATV that gets around by traversing imaginary number space. He's just joking that we somehow pick them up while they're in there.
>>3560704Since we're a borderline imaginary being, could we make some kind of specialized bounded field that is pitch black to everyone but is in a small localized area?
>>3560763So our new form was created in the imaginary numbers realm and our soul was permeated by imaginary numbers by the pseudo grail back in season one. My thought is that there's a chance that we'd be able to perceive the imaginary realm because of this. Also some specialized bounded fields are a reflection of the users souls. So I think we could make a localized imaginary numbers area around us that normal people wouldn't be able to perceive within, and my hope is that we could still see.
While I'm on a break, here's a list of names (some new, most old) for your sword NP:Lückeschwert - Breach (or gap) swordAdelheid - Self-explanatoryLeere - EmptinessErebus (Erebos) - Titan of darkness, child of Chaos (Greek)Trennen - Verb to separate, divide, or disconnectDiairon - I couldn't find anything for this.Einteilung - Noun for division (as synonym of classification). Aufteilung - Noun for division (as synonym of split or partition)Vorschneider - PrunerWesen - Noun for being, nature, or essence. Saber's identity is his sword.Öffnung - Opening or apertureGrenzeschwert - Boundary sword
>>3561148>LückeschwertNot gonna take 500+ posts for this name.
>>3561148Lückeschwert works for me
What happens to Saber if we lob her into imaginary number space?No more retries?
>>3561185>>3560363Let's not do that, lest we find ourselves in a similar loop.
>>3561200We aren't human, Alaya can't offer shit.Also I imagine Merlin would probably fish her out somehow eventually.
>>3561148No objections to Lückeschwert.Any more thoughts on how we should break the news to Ayaka? We can't very well hide it from her.Should we lead into it by telling her the circumstances (i.e. who did it) or should we just drop the bomb on her to save her the suspense?
>>3561220Luckily for her this is a holy grail war so if she wins then she can wish him back to life.Or at least we can tell her that.
>>3561220Just keep it frank, just say that you were separated from Vaisset by a blue Saber and he was killed by William Harris.>>3561226Assuming no Grail-kun shenanigans, of course.; it did summon Judas and an obviously two-faced Rider.
>>3561230God I can't wait to just show up to Saber again, this time with better parameters/skills and our other noble phantasm unlocked.SHOULD HAVE KILLED ME WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE, SABER.
>>3561323I accidentally deleted my response to your post and posted the unrelated comment instead.Anyway as for the grail summoning anti-heroes it's possible that it's somewhat based on the Fuyuki Grail but Manjew has mostly been purged away, the only influence still there is allowing for Anti-Heroes to be summoned.
>>3561323>Only one otherSince when were you under the impression we'll only try for getting two? Besides I wanna go for the possibly not allowed/suicidal option of fusing Lückeschwert with Excalibur once we break it.
>>3561344>fusing Lückeschwert with Excaliburanon that's not going to work.It's a divine construct.I doubt that it would work with anything, nevermind Excalibur.Bopping Rhongomyniad with Lückeschwert may in fact end the world so it's a good thing she doesn't have it.But yes I would like it if we could get more NPs and possibly level up our current ones.
Guys. I just realized a major problem: What do we do when she cries? This isn't the same scenario as Adelheid.
>>3561506We're a Servant now, it can be reasonably assumed by her that we've seen a ton of horrible shit so our lack of reaction won't be anything unexpected.We can however promise her revenge on the man who killed her brother and his dishonourable False Saber who was complicit in such a despicable tactic, even going so far as to act as if they had knightly honour merely so their ploy would work. They aren't fit to be called a heroic spirit.
>>3561506We turn on the Charisma D our new stripper name
>>3561506Also we could go for a comforting hug maybe.
>>3560263>I'll think of a way to break the news to Ayaka soon.Let's see your write-in, ID.
>>3561518>>3561522>>3561584Man, we REALLY don't know how to deal with girls, huh.
>>3561506This is a worthwhile thing to consider. Otherwise, we've so far got:>"Miss Ayaka, M. Vaisset and I left to investigate the events downtown, and we were ambushed by an enemy Servant. In the fight... he was bested by the enemy's Master. His last wish was for me to protect you." Give her a minute to process it. "I know you must want to grieve, but at the moment that is sadly impossible. You are now my Master, and for better or worse our fates are bound together." Use our Charisma as much as we can for this line."and>“My sincerest apologies Miss Ayaka, but I have failed your brother. He perished in combat with the abominable William Harris. It seems he provided a magical means for the transference of his command seals to yourself, that he may provide for your protection even in death. Magus, you who have been bound to me. I ask of you: will you be my Master?"as write-ins, and a number of partial suggestions. Further thoughts, anons?
>>3561604The only girls Alberich ever dealt with were a yandere goddess, Adolf Hitler and a brainwashed slave, so cut him some slack
>>3561605>This is a worthwhile thing to consider.My guess is that it would be in character to awkwardly attempt at hugging her. It worked the last time a girl was crying, why wouldn't it now? We're still working out the kinks.
>>3561605>“My sincerest apologies Miss Ayaka, but I have failed your brother. He perished in combat with the abominable William Harris. It seems he provided a magical means for the transference of his command seals to yourself, that he may provide for your protection even in death. Magus, you who have been bound to me. I ask of you: will you be my Master?"Is my choice. Maybe mention that she can use the grail to bring him back to life.If she starts crying maybe attempt the awkward comfort hug.
>>3561615I'm putting out a call to our image editing anons to see what you can do with the full version of the ultimate lifeform spread.
>>3561625Place the hug between>in combat with the abominable William Harris. It seems he provided a magical means for the transference of his command seals to yourself, that he may provide for your protection even in death.and>Magus, you who have been bound to me. I ask of you: will you be my Master?"And it would work.
>>3561625It could work before he starts talking too.
>>3561627I'll see what I can do when I'm free.
So what would we do if Ayaka refuses us for some reason?Do we go to Emiya and have him as a master for a sec, hold out until Rin comes, and just transfer it to her?
>>3561811>Implying she won’t go full revenge mode
>>3561821I'd prefer she stay on the straight an narrow rather than send her down that road; I'm cooking up ideas in my head on how to execute Harris, I have found him wanting.
>>3561827I want a more motivated master- this is great for that methinks
>>3561601Sorry about taking so long. Life got to me today, so I've had difficulty posting.> "Vaisset is gone... I'm sorry." Put a hand on her shoulder to try to comfort her when she cries. Only give her the details once she's ready to hear them.Now really isn't the time for Alberich to stand on his high horse. For us, this is a fuckup on the level of walking into Archer's trap. And as much as I'm sure Alberich would like to externalize his frustration, we can't do that in front of Ayaka. We also can't stay war focused immediately after this - Truvi's reaction when we tried to stick to the war after Lancer's death should have taught Alberich that much. The best thing to do at the moment is provide what tiny shred of comfort we're capable of giving. Once we've got some privacy, we can let it out.
>>3561878And hey - when it comes to the sudden loss of the only important people in your life, Alberich can actually sympathize with Ayaka.
Alright, we've got 2 for "Vaisset is gone..." and 2 for "My sincerest apologies..."
>>3561878>Sorry about taking so long. Life got to me today, so I've had difficulty posting.No sweat. I'm quite familiar with the experience, as you know.
>>3561878Alright, switching to support this to break the tie
Potential tactic for fighting Saber?
>>3562133She'll just use her Instinct to stab us without touching the babies, it won't work. Better to use lion plushies instead, that'll demoralize her.
>>3562156Although it would be hilarious to strap on a bunch of toddlers and accuse her of being dishonorable while she goggles at the crying babies.
If sending a servant to imaginary number space potentially completely ruins the war I know what we should do if we've run out of options and are about to die.Ultimate spite.
>that moment wnen you realise that when asked how we're still around after our master died we can reply that we were summoned by Caster to confuse themAnd it's actually true.Thanks Judas.
>page 9New thread with next update?
>>3561878This.the other options overly formal speech kinda makes me cringe desu
>>3561878Supporting this too.
>>3561627The image is ready, I'll post it in the next thread when I wake up.
I can't believe Sweets is dead.
>>3564566>not "fucking dead"one job
I'm sorry, folks. It's been so hot here this weekend, I can't think.... Trying to force my sluggish brain to write the update, but it feels like I'm melted...
>>3565420>he's actually dyingDon't you fucking dare.
>>3565420I feel you>t. Southeastern Texan
>>3565498>spoilerHow dare you.
Did Sweets died?
New thread with update:>>3566389