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Lee sits alone in his seat as he rubs his eyes and focuses on the surprisingly grainy holofield. The news station is left blank and empty as he switches to the next channel, and the next, each one showing a static off-air signal or empty static, with only local stations or laser-com off world broadcasts bringing in any kind of image. He finds one covering the local events as he tosses several puffs of fried nutrient paste into his mouth with a wide arc, when the station cuts out with a loud buzzing that startles him, causing the snack to bounce off his head. The image suddenly cuts to a blank blue background with the seal of the Union in its center as text in a number of languages flows by at the top and bottom of the screen, while the circular trade language spins about to the left side and a color patch of ceph language shifts in colors and patterns on the right.

“This is an emergency alert: the planet of Gemini is now under a state of emergency and by order of the office of the Gemini Governor Administration all districts are now under martial law and a curfew has been declared. All individuals found on public property during curfew hours shall be subject to arrest and detained for an indefinite period until such time as the end of the emergency for the safety of themselves and others. All civilian traffic has been suspended until further notice. Any protest or gathering of five or more individuals shall be detained or dispersed with sufficient force as an unlawful assembly...”

The speech continues on with its droning, mechanical voice, eventually repeating in several languages one after another. Lee changes the channel, each one showing the same signal. He tosses the remote to the seat at his side and turns to look through the nearby window, as smoke rises in thick pillars in the distance, glowing with the yellow haze of flames.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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>>3119880
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 35,008,165N
Metals: 33,367,246M
Credits: ₡11,252,206
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active Commercial trade routes:
>Leeland – Lanway HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]
Estimated per-day value: ₡2,500,000

Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses
[Gemini]
3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)
4 Human flash clone upkeep – 120
18 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540
Specializations:
>Tech
>Engineer
>Brawler
[Hive space]
100 Human Hybrids – 3,000
Lyle Rogers – 57
Jackob Eisner – 56
Dillon Reager – 30
Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N

>Income
Metals: 2,952,854 – 2,746,854
Nutrients: 7,636,202 – 7,680,702
Net: 1,005,110

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390

(Nutrient stat + structures) * 1k * dev score + modifiers = Nutrient income total
(Metal stat + structures) * dev score + modifiers = Metal income total

Sorry, a bit late.
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>>3119880
>martial law
That's how you know shit is fucked.
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Builder's Gift should have Mother Knows Best implemented and we should consider switching out the Trading Ports since it doesn't look like anyone is look to open routes on them any time soon.
Dream Catchers, Greatest Ally, and Cults and Collaborators are some of the best options besides Mother Knows Best to implement in our territory.
We should perform Mother's Favor on Raligha to get some Elite Spiral Warriors.
Also a few musings. The cost of vanilla clones of each race seems to not be connected to the value of the adaptions connected to them (proof Ralighans and Skyl) but rather the overall racial advantages/disadvantages which we should spend time looking into. Resorts seem to be limited to creativity rather preset attraction like Inferno or the Zoo we have, but it's a toss up whether such attraction work (evidence is that it was mention that the hard light holograms are as big an attraction as the Inferno due to the novelty of it).
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>>3119880
my duty remains
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>>3119891
Espionage Activity

Gemini
Agitation – ***************
Suspicion – ***********____
N 48
M 18
Development 70

[Covert Infiltration]
>Beggars and Taidarens
BFI authorities have begun an investigation into possible Hive influence
Resources:
Locally coded holoprinter capable of creating authetnc ID cards for local security: Grants 1 free Professional Equipment supply per day. May be rendered inoperable by counter-intelligence actions.
1 Sleeper Cell within local civilian infrastructure
A high ranking source of information within the governmnet
Close ties with local Taidaren clans

This planet holds an embassy, random chance to gain intelligence each day, +1 Active Operation available. This planet's population is in the beginning stages of open revolt, and local authorities have lost control of multiple regions to various conflicting partisan groups and criminal organizations. The odds of success for covert actions are unpredictable at best, while discovery risk is greatly lowered in regions no longer controlled by the government, and increased in loyalist regions due to martial law.

Special Event: Infiltrated assets within the taidaren underworld indicate many rival criminal and political partisan groups are currently attempting to make gains in various regions, and are using taidaren clans to attempt to buy spies, resources, and intelligence to further their ends as they attempt to out-bid one another for clan support. By controlling the clans, the final choice of which groups to support rests with you.
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>>3119880
This isn't good, how can we broadcast the cultural event of the millennium if the human war keeps cutting peoples view time with emergency alerts.

Also boo martial law, fight the power!
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We have hives on 3 of the 4 worlds in the Virgo system. The third one is Talgo's moon, Dharius. We should complete the set and infiltrate that too.

Corbin seems like a nice target.

We gotta infiltrate the wild men on Earth too so land a stealth hive there.

>>3119904
>Resources:
Uh, some stuff seems missing here. Like a lot of stuff.
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>>3119904
The choice of who to support is yours, and while it may seem somewhat obvious at first, you realize that there is always a potential gain with any faction in the convoluted political game of human government, even when it is failing.

>Support Xeno separatist groups (increase intelligence of non-human factions within the Union)
>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)
>Support right wing pro-Tory groups (potentially infiltrate establishment party factions while increasing their political potency)
>Support anti-establishment groups (increase local chaos and potentially spread revolutionary sentiments beyond Gemini, the results of which cannot be predicted)
>Support criminal groups (bring in a large credit income per day until the end of the local anarchy)
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>>3119891
>Sorry, a bit late.

No need to apologize mate. How’s the heart holding up?
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Holy fucking shit, ive been looking forward to this for weeks. Your work schedule is harsh. Makes it hard to get my fix!
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>>3119918
Okay time to discuss.
Should we try to infiltrate the Torres and steal Killinger's party out from him or go for one of the other factions.
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Best time of the week is here
>>3119904
Ooh we can guide the underground groups growth
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>>3119880
Poor Lee, all his friends left and here he is alone, stressed, and bored. Maybe we *should* send him to Builder’s gift after all, he could use a break.
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>>3119918
>>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)

I suppose this or spreading revolutionary sentiments are most likely to be helpful to the main questline, undermining the consolidation bill. But the revolution sentiment might also let the establishment spin it to their own advantage on a law and order angle.
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To do list:
- Capture more scavenger technology
- launch a raid on a Scavenger worldship and capture a Matron.
- Negotiate with the Valen for an exchange of hypergate technology, in return for basic psionic knowledge (likely valuable to them since they have a poor understanding of their natural psionics), a new superluminal drive technology, a non interference policy in their business and/or military contract with them.
- Exchange technology with the commonwealth, offer the Flicker drive or something in return for knowledge of the power tap and gravity drive.
- Expand our relations with Theseus, uplift him to have a real soul and gain the Space Folder.
- search for more research specimens, perhaps Earth would offer creatures with better peripheral ocular eyesight, as well as high end Human Augmentation technology.
- See about negotiating with the Cluster, we haven't seen them much, but they seem relatively benign for what they are, exchange Blink drive for knowledge of their "Navigator Organ", maybe offer to introduce the Cluster to Thesseus.
- Recruit more scientists
- Expand our economy
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>>3119931
Fuck off. Most of that is undesirable.
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>>3119926
It's a tempting gamble going for the Tories, because you might or might not infiltrate them, but you will definitely empower them.
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>>3119918
uh QD, which of the groups was the alien lovers?
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>>3119931
>>3119932
Well at least the "give tech" shit. Seriously why do people want sell off our biggest advantages.
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>>3119935
The literal aliens, or the Greens, which are the left wing xeno lovers and Unity apologists.
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>>3119918
>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)

Normally I’d be against overt support as being counter productive, but this type of support seems more secretive and likely to actually help.

The big driver here is the Greens are mostly against the war with the CW and we really want the Union and CW to stop exhausting all their strength against each other before the real threats arrive.

Besides, the establishment parties are already really powerful; we shouldn’t make them any stronger and we already have infiltrators in some of them.
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>>3119918
>Support anti-establishment groups (increase local chaos and potentially spread revolutionary sentiments beyond Gemini, the results of which cannot be predicted)
Chaos is good.
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>>3119918
>Support anti-establishment groups (increase local chaos and potentially spread revolutionary sentiments beyond Gemini, the results of which cannot be predicted)
>Support criminal groups (bring in a large credit income per day until the end of the local anarchy)
Grass roots movements like the one the Lee family supports since Tory are done and Green are week especial with the loss of the Cycleists. Criminals in order to take advantage of the current situation and then to feed them to our new governmental allies to sure up their legitimacy when things calm down.
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>>3119918
>Support anti-establishment groups
Panic in the streets of New Prescott
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>>3119936
For more advantages. Valen may be bastards from our perspective, but ultimately their moral system is predictable.
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>>3119941
Cyclicists are limited to one planet out of dozens, anon.

They are irrelevant on all other planets. They only lost Talgo, which they were unlikely to win normally anyway since it's so conservative.
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>>3119940
If the Union collapses altogether there will be a lot of leaking intel about the Void and Ceph artifacts, though. They’ll also not be at all effective as military support against our enemies. I think it’s easier and less risky to manipulate them as a cohesive entity.
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>>3119931
Don't just post a list of what you want as OUR to do list you presumptuous queer, at least the daily reminder guy or whatever had the decency to only list widely agreed upon stuff.
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>>3119937
Thank you.

>>3119918
Voting for this

>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)
>Support Xeno separatist groups (increase intelligence of non-human factions within the Union)


>>3119943
That could cause the uh, OQ to spread her influence or another agent of the void can't it?
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>>3119951
Fair enough.
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>>3119945
Just take them over like a nonfaggot. Seriously I'm for better relations but selling advantages is stupid.
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>>3119918
>Support anti-establishment groups (increase local chaos and potentially spread revolutionary sentiments beyond Gemini, the results of which cannot be predicted)

This seems like fun.
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>>3119918
>Support Xeno separatist groups (increase intelligence of non-human factions within the Union)
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>>3119949
If the union collapses the commonwealth will absorb them.
As to knowledge about voidshit very few people actually knew anything.
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>>3119918
>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)
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>>3119952
>That could cause the uh, OQ to spread her influence or another agent of the void can't it?
Not how it works from what we've seen. OQ will only try to destroy everything she can (thus not subtle) and cultists while a threat are limited in what they can do without a void shard.
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>>3119918
>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)
missed one
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>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)
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>>3119918
>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)

>>3119952
You are right. QD straight up says we have no idea what will happen if we support chaos. Too risky with void shit going on.
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>>3119918
>>Support right wing pro-Tory groups (potentially infiltrate establishment party factions while increasing their political potency)

EVERYONE, STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT, THAT THE KING BILL GOES UP FOR VOTE, KILLINGER HAS COUNTED HIS EGGS NUMEROUS TIMES, AND DECIDEDLY FOUND ENOUGH SHALL VOTE HIM INTO POWER.

BAM, NONE OF THE CORE BASE ALLOWS THE BILL TO PASS.

GET RID OF THIS CAT FUCKO
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>>3119947
Cyclists are a major religious group across the union and Talgos cyclicists were the back bone of the Green party making it an easy exploitable weakness in the current Union two party system. They may not be a political force but they aren't the only third party group we can leverage.
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>>3119949
No human fleets are useful against our enemies.

Humans don't have the self-sacrificing nature of a drone willing to self destruct the ship to prevent the Obsidian Queen from having anything to salvage and research. Their help would become a hindrance even in the astronomically unlikely event of them willingly stepping into an alien-on-alien civil war after being bloodied from a human-on-human one.

And they aren't useful against Ceph void cutters either, because simply all you can do is wait for Ceph to ambush you and then they withdraw into the shadows of the Void again.
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>>3119918
>Support left wing pro-Green groups (potentially infiltrate opposition party factions while increasing their potency)
Left, Tory or criminals.
Union is more useful as a single entity, chaos brings in too many unkown factors that we can't take afford
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>>3119981
Really why don't we don't make our own religion where the lesser races worship us?
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>>3119918
Support seems to be:
>Support left wing pro-Green groups

>Y/N
just to confirm.

>>3119917
Hmm, you're probably right. I'll be doing an audit of everything this week since I've got some extra days off work and add any missing stuff in after the fact.

>>3119919
Just fine.
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>Y
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>>3119986
>Y

Glad you're doing alright QD
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>>3119985
Thats long game we are just talking about current crisis management. which with the anti-xeno sentiment and how fuck scary we are in orbit of Gemini introducing a religion right now would work against us.
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>>3119986
>Y
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>>3119986
>Y
Yeah okay, sure.
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>>3119986
>Y
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>>3119986
An innumerable number of civilian weapons and equipment and credit caches from the Taidarens and a fuckton of Resources from >>3013375 that were obtained from all the Professional Equipment traded away on the black market.

Plus, y'know, uh... the free Professional Equipment from today's use of the holoprinter which didn't get added either.
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>>3119982
We shouldn’t count them out and we don’t know what weapons they have. Human ships using hive jammers could be extremely effective against the OQ or the Ceph. They can take advantage of jammers without us necessarily sharing the tech.
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>>3120002
We do know because we've literally refined their weapons into the ones we use today.
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>>3120002
The humans and other species strength comes from their individuality and creativity. If we want it so bad, we can simply grow some clones.
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>>3120002
At that point why not just steal control of the Scavenger fleet? Seriously.
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>>3119986
>Y
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>>3119986
>Y

>>3120000
Ah, that's right, no problem I'll get those in when I do an audit this week then, sorry.

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Union Parliament Building – Unique: The primary seat of Union political authority, this structure organizes the humans and various xeno entities within the Union into a semblance of order, collecting taxes and passing laws, all things the Hive has little need for, but the single-minded cannot function without.
BFI HQ – Unique: The center of Union counter intelligence, the Bureau of Foreign Intelligence is devoted to rooting out espionage across the Union, as well as infiltrating enemy or possibly hostile planets and organizations. Allows recruitment of BFI agents and deployment of espionage cell networks on other planets.
Space Elevator [Under construction] – This space elevator is nearing completion, however political corruption and recent unnatural inclement weather patterns have caused delays.
ISGM launch facility – Launch facilities for ISGM's, or Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. In effect high-yield MIRV warheads fitted to corvette sized automated vessels capable of short range warp travel and the deployment of many dozens of independently targeting nuclear, kinetic, or gravitic warheads. Nicknamed 'planet busters' the very existence of these warheads are typically reserved as a deterrent, and are too large to be effectively used against anything other than planets or space cities.
Union Customs Authority – Unique: Large scale government oversight of import and export activity creates a demand for a greater level of traffic be diverted through the capital system when dealing with interstellar multi-national corporations so as to allow said corporate travel more rapid movement through local bureaucracy. +2 Commercial Trade Routes
[Detected Economic Activity]
Commercial Trade routes:
Gemini – Librae
Librae – Gemini
Lanway – Gemini

Gemini Beta
[Maintain Concealment]
This is a sparsely populated military world. Low population increases the abilities to conceal a hive, while its large military presence increases the failure rate of operations. This world is under military lock down, dramatically increasing failure rates of attempted actions and operations.
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>>3120007
There is one thing we can't easily get through clones though. Elite Agents. I really wonder what an elite ship commander would be like compared to ships controlled by our drones.
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>>3120018
[Hydra]
Path
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet has been recently struck by interplanetary weapons of mass destruction. The surface is in a state of anarchy with multiple cities suffering grave infrastructure loss. Widespread looting, rioting, and mass crime has broken out and the local authorities are unable to maintain control in many areas. Many authorities have resorted to martial law and summary violence to maintain order, making acts of espionage more risky to the agents involved, but also more easy to avoid Hive implication, greatly reducing Discovery risk but slightly increasing failure chance.

Talgo
Agitation – ********_______
Suspicion – ******_________
[Passive Observation]
Invasive Research

Full infrastructure roster unknown
House of Farmers – A quasi-political branch devoted to expressing the political grievances and interests of the planet's oldest family owned farms which make up the bulk of the planet's traditional economy and consisting of individuals whose lineage is traced back to the founding of the colony. The house has no legally binding power, but motions passed are entered into the record of the local legislature and can have great sway over public opinion, and as such enjoy some level of deference by local politicians, although growing interstellar corporate farm ownership is reducing this influence.
Privatized PDF Militia – The right to bear arms is not only codified in Talgoan law, it is mandatory. All land owning families are required to own and maintain a minimal armament, and are expected to use said armament in the event of invasion. The planet's government maintains very few weapon systems directly, but instead subsidizes local land owners to build and maintain privately owned defensive structures up to and including anti-orbital batteries whose fire-control system is leased to the colonial government, increasing morale of local troops and decreasing upkeep costs of all defensive structures.

Elite Hive Agent Anderson: Spin Doctor – Allows minor passive influence of local politics, increasing or decreasing Agitation or Suspicion by one point per day. Requires at least Covert Infiltration.
This planet is undergoing an infestation from non-native insectoid life forms. Discovery chance is decreased as locals dismiss your flies as part of the infestation, but failure rate is increased as local anti-infestation measures inadvertently kill your drones periodically.
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>>3120022
Coral
Agitation – *******________
Suspicion – **_____________
[Passive Observation]
>Invasive Research

Full infrastructure roster unknown
Deep Ocean research facility – Studies local life forms and environmental history of the planet.
PDF wet navy
Silicate Nature Reserve – Attracts both tourists and scientists to examine the many different species local to the planet, providing a bustling tourist industry and assisting in research of silicate biology.

This planet's native biosphere is silicon based, limiting the capacity for your drones to disguise themselves as native life forms and forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements, increasing detection chances until the local hive grows to a size capable of importing resources or becoming self-sustaining.

[Eridanus]
Huron
Agitation – **_____________
Suspicion – *______________
N 78
M 25
Development 65
[Passive Observation]

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Huronese Fishers' Guild – Exclusivity laws and carefully organized mass-branding gives locally caught specimens artificially high value, translating 25% of local N income to Credits.
Island Resort – Strings of small island chains domed against the frequent storms offer mock-traditional entertainment and themed luxury events to the ultra-wealthy, increasing Credit income
Wet Navy – Floating and submersible platforms make up the majority of the planet's anti-orbital battery locations, allowing for the rapid relocation of PDF forces on short notice. Improves firing arcs of anti-orbital weapons.
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So let's deploy Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift.
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>>3120021
Fair, but we have to decide if we just want them for their individuality or for their individual experiences and creativity as well.
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>>3120026
[Sirius]
Mentan
Agitation – **********_____
Suspicion – _______________
[Passive Observation] – Growing to [Covert Infiltration]

Full infrastructure roster unknown
University of Mentan – Despite the singular name, the University is in fact a corporate conglomerate of multiple colleges devoted to a range of fields of study who have organized into an efficient centeral structure to prevent competition and optimize funding. The Mentan University has become the gold standard of education in known space, with entire planetary districts devoted to facilitating the research of its resident professors and arcologies devoted to housing students and classrooms devoted to specific fields of study. To both encourage a broad spectrum of understanding in students, and to assist the different component colleges, the University encourages, and to some extent requires its students obtain multiple degrees spread across a range of semi-related fields, and does not offer programs for single degree specializations – Recruits Scientists from all owned planets and allows additional research.

Elite Hive Agent Decker: Tech – Is able to gather additional information, reduces detection risk of local espionage.
This planet is currently in a state of mild unrest due to regular protests and small riots regarding upcoming local elections. Such activity is considered normal for the planet's relatively unstable political landscape.
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>>3120033
Arnim
Agitation – **************_
Suspicion – *******________
[Passive Observation] – Growing to [Covert Infiltration]

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Union Central Bank – A conglomeration of private banking entities whose oligopoly of the money lending infrastructure of Union space has resulted in the granting of defacto authority over a large aspect of the Union's monetary policy.
Central Unionized Atemportal Financial Exchange – The central hub of the Union's massive, heavily automated Quantum Comms powered stock exchange network, providing instant economic data to billions, even trillions of investors across known space and facilitating the rapid exchange of quintillions of credits worth of stocks, bonds, debt notes, and other investments related to every conceivable industry.

This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

Hive space: All worlds within Hive territory are able to perform espionage without resource cost, and all actions and operations have a dramatically increased chance of success and decreased odds of detection, but discovery brings with it a much greater risk of major public backlash and public discontent when performing events not linked to counter-intelligence.
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>>3119981
>a major religious group across the union

Cyclicism has only existed since the Colony Wars, when the Psionic Cannon blew up and Project Moonraker began collecting void shards from the wreckage. It started on one historically fundamentalist planet and nothing indicates it got much of a hold elsewhere.

>>47984955
>"It started around the time of the Colony Wars, actually, the idea that the wars marked the end times was a big thing on Talgo, and after the Earth's moon comes crashing to earth, everyone has an interpretation. The one that won out in the end was that it was the conclusion of the second fall of man, and the first appearance of the pale horseman."

And no religion seems to be truly major in the Union. Talgo is barely Union, Talgo is Talgo.

>>1338814
>"Like when you just said Jesus, but have you seen the average rate of atheism in the Union lately?
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>>3120037
Domain of the Red Queen

[G-426]
Leeland (capital)
N 60+40
M 45
Development 50

Income: Reduced due to Space City Construction
4.861MN – 2,430,500
112.5KM – 56,250

Defensive structures
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN)
Anti-orbital battery grid – Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)
Shield Dome Network – Under construction
Spore Caster Network – Under construction
Military structures
Hangar facilities – Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)
Psionic Shroud – Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)
Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – (2000) (100KN)
[Empty docks: 8000/8000]
Capillary Tower – (25,000N)
Smart Mines active – Calculates development stat twice for metal income
Algae Farm – +25N
Film harvester dock – +15N

Asteroid mining base [Depleted]
This hollow asteroid provides an excellent location to construct a Space City at low cost.

Asteroid belt
M 57
A sizable belt of metal rich asteroids containing a large, hollowed out Hive mining base in the process of conversion to a Space City.

Gas giant
A hydrogen gas giant that contains a bounty of usable gas fuel, such as tritium and hydrogen for FTL navigation and fusion power generation, making it a common pit stop for passing hive fleet patrols. Research on methods of further exploitation of its atmosphere is underway.

>P1
N 0
M 75
Development 1+
Income:
0 N
75 M

>P2
N 75
M 21
Development 1+
Income:
N 75
M 21

>P3
N 24
M 7
Development 1+
Income:
24 N
7 M
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>>3120022
>[Passive Observation]
This was raised to [Covert Infiltration].

The Elite Spin Doctor can now lower Suspicion by one dot.

>>3120033
>>3120037
Should these have reached [Covert Infiltration] by now? They were already growing before. Doesn't it take only one day?
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>>3120044
[Dagmar]
Kaltara
N 0
M 100
Development 20
Pop 0

Income:
0 N
2 KM

This planet's small corporate population has evacuated with the Union forces, taking what supplies they can and leaving the rest.

Economic Structures
Magma wells – Mostly automated magma pumps extract liquid metal resources from subterranean volcanic rivers for further filtration and refining, Allows extraction of resources relative to Development without a civilian population center. [offline]
PDF Field repair depot – The remains of a military facility devoted to the assembly of field repair kits and equipment for local military forces. [ruined and offline]

Gibson
Nitrogen ice giant with a a number of resource rich rings

>Gibson Station
A mostly automated mining facility, the station has been evacuated and stripped of most of its equipment. What remains is a large, yet empty husk of a refining facility, little more than the rough equivalent to an empty parking garage stripped of all valuables, but the husk itself would make it more easy to construct a larger and more dedicated mining facility in the form of a Space City in the otherwise dangerous construction site of the planet's rings.
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>>3120037
Wait where is the Tadega hive?

Where's dat nerve stapler we were gonna test out? >>3008387
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>>3120048
[Koenig]
Accretion disc
N 15
M 30
A large field of asteroids, gas, and small dust particulate combined into a thick soup of exploitable resources.

Calpamos
N N/A
M N/A
Development [Unavailable]
This hydrogen gas giant provides a bounty of water and hydrogen to fuel passing starships, and was the last stop of most evacuating fleets as they left the Expanse during sovereignty transfer. The planet has three moons, each of them habitable to some degree.

>Calpamos Station
A station tethered to the local gas giant linking to gas mining facility within the upper atmosphere. Most of the facility has been abandoned, scrapped, or otherwise rendered inoperable due to the rapid evacuation of local Union and corporate entities. Research into gas giant superstructures are required perform proper repairs and bring the facility back online, allowing the colonization of Calpamos itself.
>Hub
[Orbital Anchor]
1 Logistics Trade Route
1 Trade Route
5 Development
>Wards
[Customs] + Trade income
[Trade Port X2] +2 Trade Route
[Frontier Outpost] Increases Pop migration from overpopulated human worlds to worlds in local system Union only
[Barracks] Increases security, station weapons, and allows use of gunships
[Union Post Center] Reduces costs of shipping infrastructure in local system Union only
>Utility Wards
[Merchant Docks] +1 Commercial Trade Route
[Corporate Field office] Van Den Broek Superluminal Closed
[Rest Stop] +5 pop cap
[Slipway] +10 Pylons

Acheron
N 34
M 23
Development 5
Agitation ******_________
Suspicion ***********____
>Mother Knows Best
A small number of frontier settlers have begun initial terraforming efforts. Few have evacuated, and many seem to be forming village militias to establish an ad hoc planetary defense force. Whether this militia is intent on resisting hive rule, or accepting hive sovereignty is yet to be determined, but they have made no overtly hostile gestures yet beyond the acts of entrenching their homesteads and looting the local armory.

>>3120046
...shit, I think maybe I forgot to save one of my prep sessions or something, or maybe I have it in a separate note pile and forgot to merge them.

I have very chaotic notes all over. It's the main reason I was planning on spending my free days doing a proper audit on everything. Also I was planing on running a midweek thread and using at least one of those days for another crunch session just to deal with any odds and ends left over.
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>>3120046
>infiltrating a society is quick
It really depends on a variety of factor as far as I can see. Like if people have strong anti-xeno sentiments infiltration will be harder and slower while pro-xeno sentiments would cause the reverse.
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>>3120055
Income:

Deckard's Claim:
N 65
M 22
Development 15
Agitation ************___
Suspicion ********_______
>Mother Knows Best
The planet consists of a number of small farming camps built around a paramilitary base commanded by ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave. While many did, public discontent is running high, and while many seem to believe the recent events to be Lord Deckard's rather over-zealous way of retaining power under a new government, some believe there to be some foul play at work on the Hive's part. Either way, the population of just over a hundred thousand is growing increasingly at one anther's throats over the matter.

Djin
N 15
M 11
Development 0
The planet is under a mandatory general evacuation order from the Union, and Union marines have forcibly removed the remaining scientists and miners on the surface under the claim of a possible disease outbreak, transferring the small population of several thousand to a number of military hospitals at undisclosed locations for observation under short term quarantine.
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>>3120048
Man, remind me why we haven't started exploiting this world yet? We could build a fleet of hive ships with that much metal.
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>>3120056
And the hyper-caution of the Valen.
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>>3120058
[New Port]
Callahan
A hydrogen gas giant with multiple layers of rings and small dwarf planetoids of irregular shape containing sources of metal, water, and frozen gases, and was previously a major refueling station for corporate and merchant fleets.

Callahan Station
A sizable industrial facility devoted to organizing mining drones and facilitating repair and refuel of passing commercial ships. The station is mostly offline, and only a small skeleton crew remain to keep it in orbit as the owning corporation attempts to determine the state of the Hive economy.

Asteroid belt
N 0
M 22
A moderately rich belt containing precious and heavy metals

Bedrock
Agitation *********______
Suspicion ******_________
>Mother Knows Best

>Hub
[Promenade]
3 Trade Routes
70 Pop Cap
20 Pylons
1 Megacorp HQ [Rutherford Industries Extraction and Assembly Inc.] Closed
Exploits all local tourist attractions at normal value
>Wards
[Sprawl X2] +40 Cop Cap
[Customs]
[Trade Port]
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Red Light District] +20 Dev score applied only to credit income, decreases detection risk of espionage activity, cannot be built, has a chance to grow in empty Ward slots when Pop Cap is above 100

This colony is suffering from widespread panic, dramatically lowering detection chances of espionage agents, but making the results of operations far more unpredictable, and making gathered data unreliable.

Darwin
N 88
M 25
Development 1 – Growing indefinitely until halted
Income:
88 N
25 M
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>>3120056
Beginning an operation that gradually does so is definitely quick. All it takes is starting to make some flash clones.
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>>3120060
Because we have to come to consensus, which takes a lot of time.
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>>3120055
>Suspicion ***********____
Wait is it actually going up
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>>3120063
[Juric]
Brandenburg

Billiard
N 21
M 0
Development 0
>Mother Knows Best

This planet is currently settled by nomadic gas harvesters

>Norfolk
N 12
M 28
Development 0
A corporate 'shake and bake' colony devoted to terraforming, the corporate sponsors have pulled out, and evacuated the small population of engineers on the surface, leaving the planet a barren rock as they found it.

[Telarum]
Krasnikov Interstellar corporate outpost

[Sentinel]
Sentinel Post

[Tannhauser/Kerik Ashka]
Aral
N 48
M 65
Development 0
This planet's population consists only of Valen construction workers applying the finishing touches to the Tannhauser hypergate. No permanent settlement exists, and no effort to extract local resources had been made.

>Tannhauser Gate [Valen Controlled]
>Ward
[Hypergate] Allows hypergate travel
>Wards
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Traffic Control] Improves traffic capacity of Hypergate
[Merchant Guild office] Valen only
[Trade Port X2]

Debris field
M 89
The remains of the Skyl homeworld, the field holds a wealth of minerals, ice, and metals.
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>>3120060
>remind me why

Because QD cannot into notes.
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>>3120069
[The Garden/Wayward Hope]
Barren rock
N 0
M 3
Development 0

Asteroid belt
A small belt of asteroids in a semi stable orbit arround the star holding some amount of precious metals.

Raligha
N 90+50
M 10
Development 25

Income:
3.5MN + 1.75MN
250M

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)
>Anti-orbital battery grid (8KN)
Economic structures
>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N
>Greystalk farms: Bio-engineered native super-crop offers easily maintained farmland tended by both drone workers and native ralighans +30N
>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, +50% N income
>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day, allows recruitment of Ralighan Elite Agents.

Ice Giant
A super-massive ice giant mostly composed of inert gasses with few usable resources.

[M-323]
>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)
[Empty docks: 0/4]
>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)

[A-295]
Frozen Ice planet
N 20
M 1
Development 0
A small frozen planet covered in various forms of ice

Binary volcanic planets
V1
N 0
M 100
Development: 1+
V2
N 0
M 100
Development: 1+
Income:
200

Barren radioactive planet
N 0
M 6
Development 0
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>>3120067
No Acheron was always in the red zone. They'll learn in time to trust Mother.
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>>3120073

[Desmond]
Accretion disc
N 23
M 35
A thin ring of stellar debris orbiting the two native stars containing a microbial substance able to feed on local metals

Pegasean Gas Giant
Advertised as “the Inferno” by the travel agency organizing the local band performace, this giant is unusable for resources due to the simple fact that it is endlessly engulfed in flames, a fact that makes it useless for mining, but quite attractive to tourists visiting the orbiting Space City

>Builder's Gift
>Hub
[Presidium]
>Wards
[Zoological Reserve]
[Zoological Resort]
[Inferno Resort]
[Thermal Regulator]
[2 Trade ports]

>P1
N 0
M 0
Development 0
A small frozen ball of ice and rock

>P2
N 15
M 26
Development 1+
Income:
15 N
26 M
A primordial world with a thin atmosphere and high levels of oxygen, as well as geological activity and a surface covered in shallow pools of a strange animated liquid carbon substance.

Asteroid belt
N 16
M 5
A sparse field containing a small amount of metals, but mostly ice and rocks.

Ice planet
N 7
M 2
Development 0
A small planet on the edge of the system containing mostly ice and negligible sources of metals.

[Wonder]
Debris field
A thick and widespread layer of micro-particles and debris spread across the system, granting a penalty to the ability of ships within to dodge incoming attacks.

Ancient Dockyard
The site of the Builder's ancient laboratories and experimental shipyards, now little more than a vast tombstone marking her passing. The massive structure could be easily and cheaply retrofitted with your own advanced construction techniques to create a space city.
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Wait why don't you just port this stuff to World Anvil and update it there when it needs to be?
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>>3120055
>Research into gas giant superstructures are required perform proper repairs and bring the facility back online, allowing the colonization of Calpamos itself.

We unlocked that yesterday, so it's renovating time.

This place'll be the ideal trade hub.
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>>3120080
Archival readers wouldn't be able to see the state of the planets at the time of the thread.
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>>3120076
Hey QD, will there be research into human and other Xenos social sciences?
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>>3120076
[Farcast]
Derelict Sensor array

Glassed Hive world
N 0
M 100
D 10

Income:
0N
100KM

>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal income

Deep space waystation
>100 docking pylons (10KN)
[Empty docks 400/400]

[Refuge] – The Scarred Queen
An unusually dense and reflective ort cloud makes it unusually difficult to accurately blink deep into the system and disrupting sensors attempting to penetrate the cloud.

Frozen metallic world
N 5
M76
Development 0

Rocky temperate world
N 52
M 35
Development 0

Binary moons
>P1
N 5
M 20

>P2
N 12
M 24

>Forest Moon
N 78
M 13
Development 15

Defensive Structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors placed across the planet's surface capable of targeting orbiting enemy vessels in conjunction with additional anti-orbital weapon systems.
Anti-orbital battery grid – Under construction
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Under construction
Temple of the Unseen – A grand temple devoted to the Matron Queens, the gods of the Phantoms, tended to at all times by the planet's most revered elder matrons and patriarchs, they focus their abilities in tandem through the temple as an amplifier, projecting a blurred sense of incomprehension over the planet's surface, preventing enemy forces from accurately bombarding surface targets during combat. Requires a native Phantom population, and allows recruitment of Phantom Elite Agents.

Military Structures
Hangar Facilities – 50% replenished

The seeds of your new hives have finally sent back their initial reports, along with a range of local resource samples for study, and under your command they will begin to spread. While you are unsure if you wish to fully exploit each one, your new hives will inform you if they discover any local life form that may be threatened by your expansion. In the meantime, the hive creep has become adapted to their worlds, and will soon begin spreading across the surfaces of your new worlds.

In addition, your new technology allows you to colonize the gas giants within your space, although you suspect that the construction efforts needed to build up a base infrastructure level may take a bit longer than the typical colony seed of a planetary hive structure.

>Begin colonization of Gas giants (write in locations)
>Other
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>>3120085
Well yeah that is a good point but... QD could do both. Nothing is stopping him and it would work as a back up.
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>>3120089
To some extent yes, at least beyond what you are able to learn instantly from infesting members of the species.
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>>3120092
Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift to spread sweet propaganda across the stars.
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>Other
If we can, move in and colonize Dagmar.
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>>3120080
I wanted to, but when an anon mentioned that he couldn't post comments to it without making an account, I decided the wiki was still the best place to keep notes, at least for now. I did lobby for anonymous comment posting in their discord server, but I'm not holding my breath.

Also I used to do that for research, but we ran into the issue mentioned here>>3120085
and I decided it would be best to just post it all each new day thread for the sake of archive readers.
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>>3120092
Billard, Calpamos, Callahan, Gibson, the gas giant in Leeland's system, the ice giant at The Garden.

The human stuff on Calpamos and such, does that make it faster to colonize since it already got started?
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>>3120105
We literally already voted for colonizing Kaltara, which orbits Dagmar, two days ago already.>>2995120 QD cannot into notes.
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>>3120092
Backing the list here>>3120108
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>>3120108
I’ll be honest, I just got online and I can’t remember even half those planets.

Supporting anyways because colonizing shit is dope.
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>>3120107
Why not have one copy on World Anvil as for your bookkeeping and copy and paste the change to the full number threads? World Anvil was explicitly made with GM's in mind as well as writers and artists.
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>>3120108
Supporting as well.
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>>3120108
I'm fine with this but
>>3120122
>>3120123
>>3120130
How do you guys feel about adding Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift? It should reach most of the Union if put there.
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>>3120092
>Billiard
>Calpamos
>Callahan
>Gibson
>Leeland gas giant
>Garden gas giant

While you give the orders to begin construction, you also contemplate giving your worlds their own names. While the hives of the past would often forgo such formalities, you admit you are unorthodox for your species in many ways, and your frequent interactions with non-hive species may make naming them for their sake if not yours worth the effort.

>Name the planets (write in)
>Do not bother
>Other

>>3120108
Yes. While the human settlements are small and would not be economically viable for your species, they do offer a decent trade base from which to collaborate on construction efforts, exchanging your refineries and trade docks, and helping to repair their airships in exchange for them using their vessels to assist in initial colony construction.

>>3120124
I may end up doing that. It all depends on what's faster to do, but again, first I need to run through all of my notes, audit them properly, and get them situated and consolidated together.
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>>3120124
Made with them in mind doesn't mean much or make it much better for this particular use case than pastebin or a wiki or such.

Although QD could make a subpage on the 1d4chan wiki. Quest:Hive Queen Quest/PlanetStatus or something. And then include the URL for the 'Permanent link' to the latest revision at the start of the thread. Then that URL's contents will never change for archival readers.

(Also oversights would be easier to spot via diff between revisions)

Ex. https://1d4chan.org/index.php?title=Quest:Hive_Queen_Quest&oldid=523463
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>>3120146
I agree as well. The growing Xenophobia in the Union is undesirable, to say the least.
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>>3120152
>Do not bother
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>>3120153
That's a perfect idea.... and I have no idea how to do that.
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>>3120146
There's no permanent local population there to win over is there.

Also it was never spelled out, but I guess space cities must be treated identically to separate planets in espionage crunch since Bedrock has its own stats and operations.

>>3120152
>>Do not bother
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What is the "Mother knows best" thing? Don't remember seeing talk about it before.
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>Name the planets (write in) Leeland 2, Forsaken Arcadia for home system and The Gardeners home system respectively.
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>>3120165
It’s one of the espionage options.
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>>3120152
>>Do not bother
>>3120161
>implying that negates it's effect
Mother Knows Best affects everyone in the Space city or planet as well as travelers that pass through and the people that meet the travelers.
That's why it's so good.
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>>3120158

Well step one is obviously https://1d4chan.org/index.php?title=Quest:Hive_Queen_Quest/PlanetStatus&action=edit and there is a link labeled 'Permanent link' on the side of every page listed under 'Tools'.
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>>3120067
We got to get on that, stroke their ego a bit at how good they are at anticipating the hives needs and supply the militia.
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>>3120152
>Do not bother

New Construction Options

Defensive structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors built within the most critical components of the local planet's surface infrastructure surrounded by heavily fortified flak and anti-air weapon systems devoted to intercepting incoming landing craft or low-orbit attackers. The spores themselves use a modified skip drive to propel a tachyonic warhead into or near the enemy target before exploding in a burst of hard radiation that damages nearby targets and scrambles sensors and psionic senses, in effect serving as a kind of orbital flak weapon. 6,000N 12,000M
Anti-orbital battery grid – A network of anti-orbital batteries scattered across the planet, each situated in a fortified bunker complex fitted with stationary gun positions and intense hive creep fortifications. Each battery is a capital ship class particle beam capable of attacking enemy vessels in orbit of the planet, each situated in relation to the others to provide overlapping fire over any location above the planet. 8,000N 48,000M
Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)
Shield dome network – An overlapping network of bunkers crisscross the landscape of a planet offering emergency shelters for any local inhabitants to survive orbital attack, as well as shield emitters placed in overlapping layers set around important infrastructure and planetary installations. Like all shields, heat quickly becomes a problem as it sustains fire, as such a mixture of ventilation towers and subterranean heat sinks, turning a small facility into a massive, sprawling network of infrastructure. If the planet suffers orbital bombardment, this planetary installation will absorb all damage first. 8,600N 50,000M
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>>3120191
Military Structures
Military Spaceport – Extensive fortified maintenance bays and hangars are built across the surface of the planet, as well as infrastructure and manufacturing centers to support the production and maintenance of a planetary strike craft squadron. Swarmer fighters are produced at a constant rate with suitable range to intercept orbiting vessels or approaching dropships, while more advanced fighters and gunships of the most suitable design are produced and maintained for system wide defense and patrol Aerodynamic drones are also maintained in scattered hangar facilities to provide air support in the event of ground attack, and intercept enemy dropships. All craft are held in hibernation to reduce costs, allowing an entire planet's worth of strike craft to be maintained for a relative low cost. 500N 1000M
Psionic Shroud – A single building built around the shattered remains of a Void Shard, the shroud amplifies the unnatural mental silence of the broken crystal within to mask an entire planet from potential detection, preventing outside forces from easily detecting the thoughts of a hive. (2,000N 5,000M)
Psionic Sensor Tower – A massive spire composed of highly psionically sensitive instruments and material focused on the detection and measurement of wide range quantum states in a vacuum directed at the space around the planet. Grants a chance to predict the arrival of ships approaching the system via certain FTL methods. The effectiveness depends on the method used and the size of the incoming fleet, granting a base chance to detect incoming Blink drive ships at 75%, Space-fold and Rip drive at 50%, Warp drive at 25%, and Flicker drive at 10%. Gatecasting ships from Hypergates and Slip drive is not effected. (20KN, 30KM)
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>>3120152
>>>3008387
>>Increase Talgo to Covert Infiltration
>>Perform Smash and Grab - Nerve Stapler
>>Begin espionage on Tadega

Testing out nerve stapler on a parasited clone and the same clone when un-parasited when?

Also regret not suggesting Theseus to corrupt all the files from Decker's interrogation while he was in there, creating trails of a fake virus that Decker wrote. That could've prevented the leak to Windsor.

Could've stolen a stapler from some random health center back then in thread 59 too.
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>>3120194
Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. By default is used to produce hive vessels, but can be made to offer repair services to passing ships in return for credits or other acceptable transaction fees. 100N 300M
Weather Spire network – A networked collection of spires spread across a planet capable of studying and altering a planet’s climate and atmosphere. Construction includes the building of all spires needed to function. While the spires can manipulate a planet's climate towards any desired effect, by default the spires will attempt to optimize a planet's fertility and habitability for hive life and its primary crop strains, increasing a planet's base N score by 5. Alternatively, the spires can work to create intense storms and thicken the local ionosphere, reducing N score by 5 and imparting a penalty to enemy craft within the atmosphere and blocking enemy communications to and from orbit, as well as disrupting sensors of orbiting ships. This option is not available for planets with naturally turbulent and disruptive climates. (8,000N 20,000M)
Orbital solar array – A station placed in orbit of the local star equipped with a membrane of photosynthetic cells several kilometers in diameter capable of producing a steady stream of nutrient income. Due to practical constraints of logistics, a star system can support up to five solar arrays. Must be built around a main sequence star. Provides 1500N per day total (5,000N 5,000M)
Harvester Dock – A large pier built along the shore overlooking the spore-producing ocean film that serves as an unloading area for Harvester drones, and contains pipelines to pump collected raw nutrients to the hive’s awaiting processing facilities, includes a single Harvester which is covered by the cost and upkeep of the dock. Provides 500N per day total (38N 50M)
Orbital electroponic station – An orbital instillation built near a large source of hydrogen used to fuel a large fusion core, which in turn provides electrical power to a contained algae farm facility. Must be built in orbit of a gas giant. Provides +2000N per day and doubles as a gas mining facility, refueling the tritium stores of any ships in the system. The station itself can serve as the hub of a space city with additional investment. (3000M)
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>>3120199
Algae Farm – A carved out space used to utilize Leeland’s natural electrical field to cultivate food. +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain.
Hydroponic platform – A floating greenhouse platform used to grow farmland through hydroponics that can only be built on or near water with open access to plentiful sunlight. Each greenhouse platform supports roughly one hectare and requires a single worker to tend the crop and maintain the platform. Multiple platforms can be connected together to create fields of floating farmland. +200N per day
Filter towers – A large underwater pylon built to extract raw nutrients from the microbial life of the surrounding ecosystem. Can only be used on planets with bountiful biospheres and deep oceans capable of supporting large amounts of microbes. Provides between 100 and 500 N per day, depending on the local environment. (500M)
Capillary Tower – This massive organic space elevator offers a number of logistical and economic advantages, despite its drastic up front cost and fragile nature. Shuttles or space craft are no longer needed to move resources from the surface to orbital structures, freeing shuttles for more important tasks. The counterweight station serves as a center for construction, with 4 docking pylons included on the structure to repair and build ships, while gaining a bonus to capital ship construction time due to the speedy nature with which resources arrive from the surface. The Capillary Tower can also spread hive creep and extract resources at an increased rate, spreading roots deep into the crust to bring up resources directly into orbit, allowing you to consume a planet much more quickly than normal. A Hive ship can construct a Capillary Tower if given the time and resources to do so, deploying one after 3 full days, after which it becomes the counterweight station, and must remain stationary until it detaches and destroys the tower to move. A Hive ship deployed in this way does not have access to its spinal weapons, but can use other features as normal. A planet can hold a max of 4 Capillary Towers along its equator. For each one, planetary mining or over harvest activities are doubled and its Development score increases by 10, this bonus can surpass a planet's maximum development, and will not effect its biosphere. Upkeep is reduced by half on planets with an atmosphere. (50,000N 500,000M)
Planetary Core Rejuvenation network.
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>>3120204
>Planetary Core Rejuvenation network.
!!!
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Can we build Electroponic stations in Gas Giant colonies with compatible fuel?
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>>3120204
Finished Research
>Silicate Hybrid Study
By utilizing a series of carbon based polymer materials formed using organic compounds, a small level of psionic potential is established, and by infusing these root organs into a silicate life form, the silicate in question in effect gains psionic potential. The resulting psionics is weak, predicable, and uninspired, but as a tool more than capable of fulfilling whatever parameters it was designed for. The resulting organism is less a hybrid, and more a symbiosis of conflicting engineering principals. The greatest issue you have is that the alien technology goes to great lengths to apparently avoid utilizing any genetic encoding, instead encoding its biological compositions and commands into the silicate genetic analog lattice, while the carbon based psionic component is left as only an organic compound which lacks its own genetic structure, but is instead built with a series of interconnected chemical chains. It is in effect a non-living device built from organic substances, relying on the surrounding silicate cells to replace worn out components instead of utilizing any cellular reproduction. A similar comparison would be that of a virus in reverse, relying on an outside structure to reproduce instead of invading hosts itself. What is more interesting is that this function does not seem to be a requirement of its design, but a deliberate complication, as if made to be deliberately obtuse to Hive thinkers. In replicating the technology, it would be just as easy to reverse the engineering, and in fact more easy for yourself, as you still lack the understanding to “grow” silicate life. Instead, your thinkers have proposed a method of utilizing a core of psionic organs to assemble and maintain a shell of sorts made of silicate components capable of additional functionality. Without further understanding of silicate technology, the vast potential of this merging is limited to existing silicon based technology of more simplistic design, such as digital or mechanical devices, improving the overall capacity of interaction between organic psionics and non-hive technology, but this is also a foundational milestone that will hopefully unlock further possibilities with further study of silicate technology. Until then, however, you are left with what is in essence a faster data cable. Your own mental interactions with digital and quantum based technology should be improved, and you suspect that any faction that more widely uses digital and quantum technology in their infrastructure would benefit greatly from its implementation.
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>>3120207
Current Research
Your thinkers assemble themselves to focus on a number of different research topics, allowing you to choose one as your primary topic, and two as secondary research projects. The primary research project will receive three rolls per day for progress, while secondary projects receive two. In addition to your thinkers, you may gain additional research rolls from other sources. Vassal Hives shall offer their own thinkers to you as tribute and non-hive allies specialized in research all can be used to run their own Auxiliary research projects, granting one roll per day each. Multiple Auxiliary rolls can be assigned to the same research subject, and if left alone, will choose a topic of their own interest. A vassal hive may research anything, while non-hive allies possess specializations in their fields of study, and offer special bonuses when researching subjects in their fields.

Additional rolls can be purchased from external sources through trade or political treaties with Theseus and other factions. Such external rolls can be assigned to any research project, including your Primary or Secondary projects, and all participating factions will receive the research upon its completion.

+++Primary
[EMPTY]

++Secondary
>Silicate Defenders Dissection
>Personal Shielding

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
>Psionic cloak amplification
Fast
Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

Elizabeth Vaughn
Specializations: Xenobiology, Quantum Mechanics, Psionics
Bonus: Zealous – Rolls twice and takes the highest result. Cannot negate critical failures.
>Empty

Adam Seiner
Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting
Bonus: Reticent – 50% chance of turning a Critical Failure into a regular failure.
UNAVAILABLE

External
Theseus
>Silicate Computing
Medium
A far cry from the rudimentary silicon computer chips of the single-minded, proper silicate computing seems to comprise of a sentient or near-sentient mind on a similar level to that of a hive thinker housed within an efficient solid state slab of living silicate flesh using the DNA analog mesh it is composed of as circuitry. The power efficiency is near perfect, allowing it to function as its own battery for extended periods of time while giving off almost no waste heat. Despite being entirely at odds with your own biology, Theseus claims his recent study of hive biology seems to 'click' when compared to this new technology, granting some manner of epiphany into the silicate research you seem to have missed. [Research speed increased]
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>>3120209
Available Research Options

>Neural Reconfiguration
Medium
The potent abilities of your psionics and the precise and efficient capacity of your biological medical technology has begun to merge more fully, blurring the line between where one ends and the other begins. As a result of this, your thinkers have conceived of the possible ability to utilize very short range tachyon micro-pulses in order to use psionics to examine, rearrange, or remove aspects of an individual's memories without the use of an invasive parasite or other neural connection.

>Living Stone
Medium
Structures made of living silicate matter has never occurred to you, but it makes sense, as despite being applied to the natural inverse of organic life, it would seem to apply similar benefits to any structure using the material. All the same, you are not by far not an expert on silicate life forms, and anything it the field will be difficult to make headway with.

>Multidimensional Physics
Slow/Slightly dangerous
Until now you have been entirely ignorant to the workings of the Void and the self proclaimed gods that rule this mysterious space. Now you realize some semblance of the truth, although any proper understanding comes with its own inherent risks of attracting unwanted attention, such understanding, you realize now, was the backbone of the galaxy spanning civilization of the ancient Hives of the Golden Age, long before the Schism began. Regaining such lost knowledge would be a great step towards rebuilding your race as the galactic superpower it once was.

>Non-euclidean Architecture
Very Slow/Dangerous
The basis of the very crystal you now posses, as well as the hostile Void Shards, the process of compressing spacetime along the axis of a fourth spacial dimension is a key component to many technological devices of the Ancients in their prime. Such technologies explain the process by which the void shards function, as well as allow for the vast complexity of the memory archive you hold, compressing vast amounts of energy and matter into a pocket space where such terms are interchangeable and largely meaningless.
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>>3120209
Wait a second. YOU FORGOT TO CHANGE THE RESEARCH
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>>3120216
>Psionic Thought Construction
Very Slow
The brief understanding granted to you by your examination of the contents of the white crystal given to you by your late mother, you realize that tachyons, like nearly any other form of particle, can be used in the construction of physical objects. Such constructs are inherently unstable outside of the multidimensional space of the Void, however, but allow for the construction machines of immeasurable complexity with relatively little effort by constructing them in a space where thoughts can be projected as concrete materials.

>Empathetic Compulsion
Slow
A step further from the disruption of the nervous system, with additional fine tuning it may be possible to exert some limited control over an individual mind without the use of direct contact.

>Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.

>Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.

>Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.

>Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.
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>>3120217
Wait, which ones changed? I thought I did when you swapped out for the topics from the alien structure in your home system.

You literally rolled a critical on the primary too.
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Now that we have Elite Agents, we may want to research
>Memory Seed
just to make sure even if you kill them, there's a chance they won't die.

>>3120217
Yep. What are the odds of a ghost attack two days in a row?
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>>3120223
Anti-Tachyon weapons my dude.
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>>3120223
>>3027434
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>>3120224
I can support this, the sooner we unlock memory seeding the sooner we can ensure all our agents are completely immortal.
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>>3120223
>Crit on anti-tachyonic weapons
What happens?
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>>3120233
Either a special post or QD encountered problems with his notes again.
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>>3120224
On the other hand,
>Neural Reconfiguration

is real nice as an MIB flash thingie.
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>>3120238
...This is also a good point. If we unlock this quickly enough we might be able to clear Devon of suspicion without having to parasite all the doctors administering the neural probes.
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>>3120228
>>3120226
Fuck it, we got a crit anyway so lets just roll with the mistake and choose the anti tachyonic weapons again, they'll likely be done by the time we need them again.
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>>3120245
Like blinking to the wrong star system Librae, I do kind of love this mistake.

One Thinker just had tunnel vision on his pet project and critted it and didn't notice Mother's order.
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>>3120226
Ah, okay I found it. Damn, my bad.

One sec, let me swap this out real quick. I got the unlock for those.

>>3120245
It's my mistake, I'll give ya both. One for the crit, the other for compensation, just let me get it set up, the formatting is in horrible shorthand scribbled on a piece of paper stuck to a cork-board on the wall.
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>>3120248
>Giving us more delicious tech
Have I ever told you you're a cool dude QD?

Because you're a cool dude.
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>>3120248
W-whoa. Thanks QD, I hope you make more mistakes soon!
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To actually get things done on the new espionage planets Arnim and Mentan, we'll need to

>begin Beggars and Taidarens on both
>begin a series of Smash and Grabs to get the Resources required to perform Recruitment
>start Recruitment to gain Sleeper Agents
>use sleeper agents perform acts of Sabotage on Arnim to lower the Suspicion level

Maybe the sabotage can be 'accidentally' exposing a rich executive's corrupt slush funds and distributing it into some working class pension, to both assuage the rising anti-xeno attitudes that are causing the anti-hive sentiments / Suspicion, and maintain anger at local elites.
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>>3120248
Thank you for your humility and the juicy KNOWLEDGE.

You're a pretty cool person, especially considering all the stuff you've been going through lately!
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>>3120209
>Psionic Thermokinesis
I want my psionically cooled Plasma Assault Cannons.
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>>3120252
I don't know, Mothers Favour may be enough. But yes, we should consider contingency's should it not be enough...
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>>3120256
I do too, but we should hand that research off to Elizabeth since Psionics is one of her research specialtys.
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>>3120248
QD the generous, PRAISE HIM, PRAISE!
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>>3120265
We must begin the blood sacrifices!!
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>>3120257
Mother Knows Best leaking cultural influence probably too slow and gradual, and xenos are still too good of a scapegoat for the crashed Expanse stocks. In the short term probably gotta do both. If not, we need the sleeper agents anyway for simple information.

Also some Humanitarian aid to Path and Eridani, being all torn up by humans' violence-prone nature that is sorta kinda hives' fault since it was engineered into them thousands of years ago.
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>>3120271
Agreed.

Hey QD, if we attain the Scavengers anti-matter power core technology, do we have the basic knowledge to harvest anti-matter from particle accelerators or do we have to research that manually?
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>>3120248
>the formatting is in horrible shorthand scribbled on a piece of paper stuck to a cork-board on the wall.
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>>3120248
Q-Thinkers with cork-boards
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>>3120283
retaining sanity between running a 4chan quest, having major medical issues, and business mixed with family problems is difficult I'd imagine.
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>>3120220
You ponder which research subject to focus on next, when you suddenly find a new sensation of scientific revelation from a familiar, yet currently unavailable mind.

>Research Unlocked
Anti-Tachyonic weapons
White at first simply modified standard weapons made to fire psionic insulative material, the brittle material and complex nature of the modification makes it quickly apparent that such designs are simply not tenable. Instead, a more simple, elegant, and rustic method has proven the most efficient. Railgun technology is simply not feasable with anti-tachyonic munitions, at least not without some consideration. The result is a callback to ancient earth technology taken on new life, with the development of the anti-tachyon shell, a small, disposable, single use electromagnetic device capable of catapulting the munition held within at extreme velocity. The same breakthrough in engineering that lead to its development also lead to a number of other improvements, including a method of efficiently merging powered blade technology with insulative material, as well as more crude, yet effective equipment. Unfortunately, the common thread between all of the resulting weapons is that their anti-tachyonic nature is inherently disruptive to your drones, causing mild discomfort with their handling, and throwing off their aim due to their reliance on data input from nearby drones observing combat from different directions. As a result, your own drones suffer from drastically lowered combat effectiveness when equipped with any of these weapons, meaning for all practical purposes, they are limited in use to your agents. Just as well, since you suspect it would be unwise for you to engage in combat with any Void related entity using your drones in open combat anyways, at least for anything other than a distraction.

>New Equipment Unlocked

Void Sword
A standard powered sword lined with tachyonic insulation along its bladed edges, which gives the blade a black, almost obsidian look to it. Standard powered sword technology is less effective when applied to tachyonic material due to its brittle nature, and as a result this sword's design has been altered to "grow" new material, utilizing the micro-servos within to instead of vibrating the weapon to cut through the target, maintain a mono-molecular edge. Under normal circumstances such an edge would be impossible to maintain between cuts, but due to the semi-organic nature of the insulative material in the blade, the weapon in essence sharpens itself over time, breaking off microscopic fragments into the target at deliberate angles so as to expose equally dangerous cutting edges as the blade wears down, and then build itself back up over time outside of combat.
cont.

>>3120280
You already do, you just lack the technology to contain the material in a way that is conducive to exploiting it. Your Immolator warheads already utilize anti-matter.
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So, all of our adopted children will be getting a Void Sword if they need it, but the question is, do we want to deploy mass Chimaera guards with how our regular drones are unable to use Void Swords?
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Hmm, this is tricky...
Put Living Stone into Primary
Have Elizabeth research Psionic Conduction when she's finished at builders gift.
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>>3120207

>>3000820
>Your clones hold up their weapons and release a torrent of chitinous slugs, particle beams, and plasma bolts. The slugs twist and bend, curving around the pillars and impacting the wall behind them as the plasma plumes too early, the flames bending around the pillars as if stopped by some unseen wall, and the particle beams twist like swinging rope, curving enough to just graze the surface of the pillars.

>>3008578
>>Silicate hybrid study
>Slow
This obelisk remains would seem to be composed of semi-organic psionically conductive carbon polymer fused with a silicate genetic lattice, in effect making it a kind of hybrid


Guess there was no way to find out what the obelisks were doing to protect themselves by just researching what they were made out of. Blast.

It accomplished what's currently impossible for telekinesis as we know it, deflecting bullets.
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>>3120293

>New Equipment Unlocked
>Void Sword
>Void. Sword.

God damn...
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>>3120304
Hybrids would be better for all the nonhive races we are dealing with.
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>>3120327
It might not be direct telekinesis, it might be Psionic Gravity manipulation.
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>>3120324
Fuck it supporting so we can move on.
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>>3120293
Thought-dusters
A more elaborate version of Lyle's own home-made knuckle dusters, these anti-tachyonic gauntlets are fitted with micro-muscles capable of folding or unfolding the weapon over the fist or onto the forearm. When fully deployed, the weapon functions along a similar principal to an industrial jackhammer, firing its muscles to impact the target with additional force upon contact, however due to this feature, it must be mounted to a medium or heavy carapace to prevent breaking the arm of the user.

Void knife
A shortened version of the void sword, this knife is a standard issue weapon for any who expect to face void related phenomena, and can be equipped to any and all non-hive agents without detracting from their standard compliment of weapons.

Crossbow
Surprisingly, the more simple the weapon, the less modification is needed. Lyle's personal crossbow has proven to be perfectly capable of firing specially made anti-tachyonic bolts without modification, and as such the design as been pushed into full production with only minor improvements, such as variable muscular pivots to improve accuracy. The crossbow can fold itself up into a small, compact form for travel, allowing it to take up no more room than a typical sidearm.

Blunderbuss
A crude, ancient weapon given new life, this large bore shotgun uses a disposable electromagnetic shell to catapult a large chunk of fragile anti-tachyonic insulation, filling the space in front of it with a wall of razor sharp fragmentation that disrupts tachyonic activity painfully and quickly. The weapon is breach loaded, and requires reloading after each shot, however it comes with two barrels, allowing it to be fired twice before reloading, a feature common in the ancient era of earth, but fell out of common use as caseless ammunition became ubiquitous with the use of railgun technology. The weapon's barrel is incredibly short, allowing it to be strapped to the leg like a sidearm, and making up for its lack of accuracy and range with the fact that everything in the room ahead will likely be hit, and anything within short range will likely no longer exist.

Breach Pistol
A crude and simple pistol which fires anti-tachyonic shells from a breach loading barrel. The weapon is single shot, but fires a massive slug of tachyonic insulation designed to break up upon contact with the target.

Certainty Grenade
A crude explosive designed to scatter fragments of anti-tachyonic material throughout the air, sending fragmentation in a wide radius and filling the atmosphere around the site with tachyonic insulative powder. To Void Crafters, the explosion appears like a massive collapse of quantum probability, collapsing the passageways in spacetime with which a void crafter manipulates the environment, and establishing a temporary area of quantum certainty. In addition, anyone within its radius is certain to have a very bad day.
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>>3120343
It didn't seem gravetic at all either.

>One of your clones tosses his weapon aside and charges forward with his combat blade, quickly running into a wall of psychokinetic force.
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>>3120358
It's clearly the same they use to detect us entering their systems. Basically Psionic Shields.
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>>3120355
You contemplate your subjects of research. You have so much to learn, and what seems like so little time.

>Add Living Stone to Primary research slot
>Add Psionic Conduction to Primary research slot
>Other
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>>3120369
There were other suggestions besides those two earlier.

>>Other

Add
>Neural Reconfiguration
The infiltration must go smoothly.
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>>3120369
>Add Living Stone to Primary research slot
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>>3120369
>>Other
Add Neural Reconfiguration to the Primary slot

The need for this technology is more pressing than the other two.
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Elizabeth is still busy? (Research slot says she's free).
Anyways
>Add Living Stone to Primary research slot
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>>3120369
other options are being proposed.

>Add Living Stone to Primary research slot
>Add Psionic Conduction to Primary research slot
>Neural Reconfiguration
>Other
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>>3120369
>Neural Reconfiguration
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>>3120378
>Neural Reconfiguration
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>>3120378
>>Neural Reconfiguration
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For the sake of decreasing dissent, I change my vote
>Neural Reconfiguration
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>>3120378
>>Neural Reconfiguration

The other one floated was Memory Seed for elite agent immortality but I gotta go with this first.
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>>3120355
>Thought-dusters
>Certainty Grenade
>Crossbow
>Blunderbuss
I am now getting this vision of our hive agents decked-up like 18th-century vampire hunters in techno-organic armor.
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>>3120378
>>Neural Reconfiguration
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>>3120400
Vampires during the middle ages were believed to be corpses possessed by demons.
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>>3120400
The ones going after void/corrupted hive agents kind of are.
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Next comes espionage votes.

>hive on Earth
>hive on Dharius
>hive on Corbin
>Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan
>perform 4x 'Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan
>perform 2x 'Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Arnim
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Should QD make a noticable mistake please refer to the attached document
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Maybe we need a stealth hive on Freeshare next. This Data Wars guy is clearly the ultimate threat/the one all the conspiracy nuts will email evidence to.

https://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/151435204901
> Its most popular personality, and the founder of the organization, however, Jonas Alexander, broadcasts from Freeshare, a planetoid moon of Darin's Deep in the Procyon system.
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The only research paths I can think of that will allow us to transcend the current limitations of Anti-Tachyon munitions are research into Silicates or Multidimensional Physics and Non-Euclidean Architecture.
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>>3120378
>Neural Reconfiguration

As you watch the Union descend into chaos, you ponder your next move. You already have a number of espionage activities unfolding, although such things take time, but with each new day comes a new situation to take advantage of.

>Add or remove espionage activities (write in)
>Keep as is
>Other
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>>3120425
Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift
Maybe use Dream Catcher on Armin.
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>>3120425
>>Add or remove espionage activities (write in)

Add hives on Freeshare, Earth, Dharius, and Corbin.


Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan, and Talgo.


Perform 'Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Arnim twice.

Do 'Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan x4.

We need a getaway car to parasite a target.
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Hey QD, are the humans nuclear artillery and Laser weapons technology that we already have?
If not, did we notice anything regarding their capabilities?
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>>3120426
The one flaw with Dream Catchers is the increasing the activity of the psionically resistant which is troublesome. Sabotage actions at least lack that negative side effect which could bite you later.
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>>3120429
Supporting. Where the heck is Freeshare, incidentally?
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>>3120437
The Procyon system apparently. Should probably check that pod one of these days.
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>>3120425
Oh forgot.

Raise Tadega to [Passive Observation].

...If it's not under some special event that raises discovery risks anyway, like Gemini Beta is. Is it under an effect like that? It isn't in the copypasta.
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>>3120426
But Mother Knows Best is great of course.

In fact
>>3120425
>Add Mother Knows Best to Raligha
>Perform "Mother's Favored" on Raligha
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I just realized, Laser weapons probably aren't very hard to buy in Union space. We should buy one for reverse engineering.
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>>3120455
Seconding.
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>>3120456
Isn't that just the cyclotron?

We could also buy quantum scramblers, gravetic warheads, tons of things but QD needs to let us go on a shopping spree on Space Amazon again like we did a long time ago.
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>>3120436
>Sabotage actions at least lack that negative side effect which could bite you later.
And sabotage can fail increasing suspicion and agitation.
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>>3120460
Nope, I just checked the pastbin - Cyclotron is a particle accelerator.
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>>3120448
Any military planet has increased difficulty to infiltrate.
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>>3120207
>you suspect that any faction that more widely uses digital and quantum technology in their infrastructure would benefit greatly from its implementation.
We should probably send this Silicate stuff over Theseus' way.
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>>3120467
He's already getting silicate computing. Unless he has some kind of tech we'd want there's no sense in just gifting him the tech.
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>>3120425
One more

>begin Invasive Research on Raligha

>begin Invasive Research, Mother Knows Best on the Phantoms' forest moon

Uh, or I guess, we just order the Scarred Queen to do that?

Invasive Research increases the potency of Mother Knows Best so we really know how to optimize their lives.
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>>3120467
Or should we save up such technologies for the Space Folder?
>>3120473
I second this as well.
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>>3120425
>Activate Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift
>Activate Dream Catcher on Arnim
>Deploy Espionage Hive to Freeshare
>Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan, and Talgo
>perform a Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan x4.
>Raise Tadega to [Passive Observation]
>begin Invasive Research on Raligha
>begin Invasive Research, Mother Knows Best on the Phantoms' forest moon
>All above
>None
>Other
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>>3120448
I would back this measure as well.
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>>3120425
>Mother Knows Best
Everywhere we are openly active.

I was binge reading the archive while 4chan was down yesterday and kind of over did it. then had a dream where there was a HQQ anime where all the drones were little lolis/shotas in bug themed footy pajamas working together as a team.
>Workers basically being Platelets from "Cells at Work"
>Little thinkers with their lab coats
>Warriors being slightly older brothers and sisters
>The queen being an overworked single mother figure.
>Lee pretty much being Sporticus in his classic spaceman aesthetic.
>the neighbor kids where Ralighans who were basically too cool for school Schroder's playing drums in their back yard.

Theseus and Lyle and others didn't show up in the episode but man too much quest can be fun.
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>>3120476
Space Fold isn't really that valuable to save up for. However Theseus joining the hive is worthwhile considering all critfail on research rolls are negated with him.
Also we need to use Hover Mom on the Phantoms and Ralighans.
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Should we land a hive on Mercy? We could eventually control the food supply of most of human space.

>>3120482
>>Activate Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift
>>3120482
>>Deploy Espionage Hive to Freeshare
>>Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan, and Talgo
>>perform a Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan x4.
>>Raise Tadega to [Passive Observation]
>>begin Invasive Research on Raligha
>>begin Invasive Research, Mother Knows Best on the Phantoms' forest moon

You forgot
>Mother Knows Best on Raligha

>deploy hive to Earth
>smash and grav: civilian transport x2 on Arnim
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>>3120482
>>All above

>>3120485
I wish my dreams were that moe.
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>>3120482
>Other
Hover Mom and Mother's Favor on the Garden.
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>>3120482
>>Activate Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift
>>Activate Dream Catcher on Arnim
>>Deploy Espionage Hive to Freeshare
>>Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan, and Talgo
>>perform a Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan x4.
>>Raise Tadega to [Passive Observation]
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>>3120482
And I'll agree with
>Hover Mom on Raligha
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>>3120482
>All above
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>>3120485
>slice of life HQQ anime
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>>3120482
>>Other
Can Anderson start lowering Suspicion on Talgo by one point per day now?
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>>3120491
>>3120485
Allow me to ruin your sleep for the night.
https://mangadex.org/title/29187/hataraku-saibou-black
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>>3120482
>all of the above

>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
>Do not
>Add other
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>>3120505
>>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
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>>3120489
>>deploy hive to Earth
Yeah, that's a good idea. We still have those two swamp natives from Earth Lyle picked up, don't we? We should probably think of something to do with them...
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>>3120505
>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
>Add Hover Mom on Raligha
>Add Mother's Favor on Raligha
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>>3120505
>>Do not
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>>3120505
>>Add other
Espionage hive on earth.

Those wild men know something and have a metallic voice giving them orders.
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>>3120505
>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
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>>3120505
>>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
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>>3120505
>>Do not
If we turn Raligha into a post capitalist dream state where we do everything for them, they will completely stop developing as a society. That would be robbing them of potential and self determination in a way I can't get behind.
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I'm just going to blame /qst/ for this one, but I'm not sure why we're not letting the Ralighans develop naturally like we decided to do ages ago.

It just seems out of left field
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>>3120505
>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha

>add other
>deploy hive to Earth.
Even if we restrict it to small drowns and keep it hidden a small hive here would be beneficial
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>>3120505
>>Add other
Raise Path to [Passive Observation], Discovery risk is greatly reduced now.
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>>3120516
I don't get it either dude, but apparently we're the only two who care.
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>>3120517
Yeah same. I don't know if it's the board itself making anons completely stop thinking about the direct consequences of their actions, but it seems like most people since the switch just kind of want to do everything just because they can.
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>>3120516
Nah man, we will give them symbionts as well.
That way stagnation is impossible, since their progress is tied to ours.
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>>3120517
Because it'll literal years and it's a waste of time.
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>>3120505
>Do not
Why should we? No good reason to interfere.
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>>3120505
>Activate Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift
>Activate Dream Catcher on Arnim
>Deploy Espionage Hive to Freeshare
>Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan, and Talgo
>perform a Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan x4.
>Raise Tadega to [Passive Observation]
>begin Invasive Research on Raligha
>begin Invasive Research, Mother Knows Best on the Phantoms' forest moon

and in addition:
>Deploy espionage hive to Earth
>Add Hover Mom on Raligha
>Add Mother's Favor on Raligha
>Other

And a bit of contention for this one:
>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
>Do not
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>>3120520
And well Invasive Research will definitely help locate the OQ spores.

>>3120516
That's Hover-Mom. Mother Knows Best isn't post-scarcity.
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>>3120530
>other: do nothing
and
>do not
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>>3120530
>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
>Deploy espionage hive to Earth
>Add Hover Mom on Raligha
>Add Mother's Favor on Raligha
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>>3120529
A civilian population to uplift and introduce to the greater galaxy.
Also info warfare, as we didn't exterminate relatively helpless natives.
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>>3120530
Don't interfere with the development of Raligha or the Phantoms. Invasive research is fine, but leave the primitives be.
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>>3120530
>>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
And well you don't "add" mother's favor, it's not an ongoing operation it's recruiting random Elite Agents once.

>Deploy espionage hive to Earth

>Other
Raise Path to [Passive Observation]
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>>3120530
>Do nothing

Reading the entry on these options does not make me think they are appropriate for a society that is only just being introduced to agriculture

>Hover-Mom: Drone labor is offered freely to all who accept Hive rule as full citizens, and the implantation that such membership implies, rapidly expanding critical and luxury infrastructure and providing free welfare to any hive citizen who lack the expertise to perform tasks that hive drones are less efficient at than non-hive life. To the typical everyman, the planet becomes a post scarcity utopia free of work, rent, or tax, all under the ever-watchful and ever-present eyes of the Hive Queen. For as long as this is maintained, the percentage of the local population who are implanted rapidly increases up to a maximum determined by the population's overall culture and percentage of psionically resistant individuals. Maintaining Mother Knows Best can increase this max percentage by shifting local culture.

This is going to completely wipe any independence and progress for the Ralighan people.
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>>3120536
That's retarded though. We are the descendant of their literal gods and creators. To complain about us uplifting them is retarded.
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The fact that we interacted with them and accepted their tribute so much, we've already interfered with their cultural development, thoroughly.
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>>3120529
>>3120536
It's a prerequisite. You can't recruit Elite Agents until you start such a social engineering operation, it's beneficial to us.
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>>3120530
>Deploy espionage hive to Earth
>Do not
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>>3120535
>introduce to the greater galaxy.
There is no greater galaxy. I had given some thought to starting a "galactic council" but who would even be on it? We going to include Cluster too? How wouod the human worlds be represented? And Taidarens? Playing the long game with Raligha should be fine.
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>>3120516
Ralighans already love us,Mother knows best isnt hover-mom or Its because mother loves you.
They will still do their own thing they just get a dose of pro hive propaganda (which they were already doing on their own) it just gives us a vector to introduce ideas in a subtle way to spur on their progress without actively doing it.
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>>3120545
No it wouldn't. We lose any advantages we could get in trying to play the long game.
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>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha

Besides, we're conducting Mother Knows Best with the Phantoms, the vote went uncontested.
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>>3120540
Their progress would only be accelerated by an end to inter tribal warfare through mass adoption. They're part of the hive, the hive advances, we all advance. And they're assisting the hive's Thinkers with some bonus rolls along the way so they're helping.
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>>3120541
I don't want to be in the business of uplifting every race we come across. We should be more stingy with our gifts.
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>>3120530
>>Add Hover Mom on Raligha
Neglected this one.
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>>3120553
What do we have to lose by uplifting relatively benign races like Ralighans?
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>>3120541
There's a difference between 'uplifting' them and making them utterly dependent on us to do anything. If we introduce hover mom they'll stop learning how to farm and hunt, or do anything for themselves just as we introduced the foundation of such knowledge to their civilization. That's almost as repulsive as enslaving them if you ask me.
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>>3120553
Whatever amount of uplifting we're doing, which isn't much, involves adoption at the same time so we aren't creating anything we can't control.
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>>3120553
I'm a really stingy fucker though. These guys have been worshipping our kind for 70,000 years. That's damn impressive and worth uplifting.
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>>3120559
they don't care mate.
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>>3120552
We haven't started mass adoption with the Ralighans. They're still independent from us a culture, unless we decide to go through with this.
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>>3120530
>>Deploy espionage hive to Earth
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>>3120559
>If we introduce hover mom they'll

Do whatever Mother suggests, because the hive is one with their nervous system.

If Mother wants them to keep teaching their children to farm and hunt, just in case they need it someday, they will.
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>>3120556
Nothing. Their argument is we should wait a thousand year since these guys CAN'T progress on their own. They are hardcore traditionalist to a fault.
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>>3120566
Hover-Mom entails mass adoption, so that would be it.
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We've already interfered extensively with their culturally development by accepting their worship and tribute.
Ralighans suffer, bleed, get diseases and other stuff. They look upon us with religious adoration and suffer and bleed in order to give us tribute. If we were worried about interference, we should've done something about that a long time ago.
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>>3120569
Re-read the espionage entry under hover-mom

Drone labor is offered freely to all who accept Hive rule as full citizens, and the implantation that such membership implies, rapidly expanding critical and luxury infrastructure and providing free welfare to any hive citizen who lack the expertise to perform tasks that hive drones are less efficient at than non-hive life. To the typical everyman, the planet becomes a post scarcity utopia free of work, rent, or tax, all under the ever-watchful and ever-present eyes of the Hive Queen.

Why would any of them put in the effort and risk associated with hunting or farming when they can just get our drones to do it for them?
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>>3120576
I think people don't realize they can't progress without our help. They are eternal stone smashers until we take a more proactive measure.
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>>3120552
We dont want mass adoption, we want Ralighans to be Ralighans, leave them be. that doesn't mean we don't tell them that the Hive is awesome which is what Mother Knows Best is.

https://pastebin.com/kH6fmTV6
Line 57. its purely information based. for Raligahns, what would that be, a daily "things that happened and the hive is great" drum session. Some hive themed equipment like hive styled tools and weapons matching their current tech and social items like children's toys.
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>>3120530
>Deploy espionage hive to Earth

>Do not add Mother Knows Best on Raligha.
They still need to develop.
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>>3120577
They don't actually have truly free will, for one. But we don't need them to farm or hunt, just to maintain the cultural knowledge of how to do it in case the hive stops doing the work for them.

Anyway, are you willing to forgo multi-armed Elite Agents of spinning death by sticking to this principle? Because we can't recruit elite Spiral Warrior Ralighans without doing something either Mother Knows Best or Hover-Mom.
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>>3120530
>Deploy espionage hive to Earth

>Do not
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>>3120581
They can't develop on their own and Mother Knows Best does work like that since faggots like you haven't been paying attention.
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This is evidently a hotly debated topic.
In favour of advancing hive quest, I'd like to drop this entire debate myself and move on.
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>>3120579
The Scarred Queen has tried to get the Phantoms to develop for 70 thousand years.

It just seems unlikely to happen for Ralighans either.
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>>3120540
I completely agree. Independent thought and development spurs innovation. If we provide the Ralighans everything they could want they will never develop into a society that can truly benefit us. We should respect them and their culture at least somewhat.
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>>3120589
>giving up when the other group is being stupid.
>>3120591
>tfw we will never have badass Phantom assassins
>tfw we will never have badass Ralighan warriors
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>>3120581
Ralighans are actually less advanced then they were when Gardener died. they need a push, but that's different from uplift. Mother knows best would be the perfect way to encourage growth while not doing the legwork of it ourselves.
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>>3120587
The pastebin says:
>"Media, entertainment, consumer goods, food, and all other aspects of citizen life is monitored and optimized for proper health while avoiding intrusions as much as possible. Drones and psionic relays are placed at strategic locations so as to anticipate and prevent accidents, crimes, and acute illness. Hive bio tech use is encouraged so as to mitigate problems caused by the inefficiencies of non-hive life, providing secondary hearts and optimized and redundant critical organs to much of the population"

If we prevent all crime and illness and control/optimize the entire society it will not allow the Ralighans to develop to their full potential.
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>>3120591
What. You know that the Scarred Queen was mostly stuck without an eggsac, meaning that she was left without Thinkers and had to speak with the Phantoms herself?
Besides, this is a debate based upon our differenting morals and philosophy. We should drop this topic for now, regardless of our opinions. Otherwise, we will get nothing done tonight.

>Do Not
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>>3120530
>Deploy espionage hive to Earth
>Activate Mother Knows Best on Builder's Gift
>Activate Dream Catcher on Arnim
>Deploy Espionage Hive to Freeshare
>Begin Beggars and Taidarens on Arnim, Mentan, and Talgo
>perform a Smash and Grab: civilian transport' on Mentan x4.
>Raise Tadega to [Passive Observation]
>begin Invasive Research on Raligha

Okay, just to cut through the confusion real quick and get a handle on this.

>Influence Phantom or Ralighan society with espionage
>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
>Other
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>>3120598
Our species is on the brink of potential annihilation in the war against the Void, which will assuredly reach a climax one way or the other within a year.

We don't have time to wait for them to advance if we want to benefit from them. If we want to benefit from them, we should use Hover-Mom and then exploit the creativity of their dreams to accelerate Thinkers' research.

Anything that takes more than a few years to happen will be when the hive is already secured in its dominance of the galaxy, or extinct.
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>>3120598
We do respect lifeforms that willingly join the hive though and their culture is worshipping us
>>3120608
Good thing they are literally incapable of developing further or might have had a point.
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>>3120611
>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
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>>3120587
Re-reading the espionage page I can see you're not wrong about Mother knows best. It's a little hard to tell but it sounds like it involves basically taking overall political leadership while heavily investing in influencing the local culture for the benefit of both the locals and the hive's interest. If we can do this while allowing the social development of the Ralighans, and without simply dumping the fruits of civilization without them having to earn them, I would be okay with it. If the Ralighans want to ascend to the technological heights of the rest of galactic civilization, they will have to learn to pull themselves up for it to matter.

If mother knows best means stripping them of independent thought and any room for developing on their own however, I would have to stay against it.
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>>3120611
>>Influence Phantom or Ralighan society with espionage

We need to do that to recruit Elite Agent Phantoms. Can't without it.
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>Add Mother Knows Best on Raligha
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>>3120611
>Influence Phantom or Ralighan society with espionage
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>>3120611
>>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
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>>3120611
>>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
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>>3120611
>>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
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>Influence Phantom or Ralighan society with espionage
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>>3120611
>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
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>>3120611
>Influence Phantom or Ralighan society with espionage

Mother knows best to influence their growth having the aspects that are outside their current tech base as a shining carrot to encourage them to grow.

Mothers Favored to form a group of eleits that will join the festivities at Builders gift and then be useful assets in improving their respective societies. Ralighan and Phantom great artists and such.
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we should probably do this in a clean-up thread later.
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>>3120611
>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)

Let's just move on. >>3120619 makes a good point about how it might allow us to assist the social development of the Ralighans, but overall I still agree that to an extent they will need to earn their advancement, with maybe a little guidance from us.
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>>3120610
That's the point. That is what happened with effectively minimal interference besides giving them suggestions repeatedly. Nothing.
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>>3120611
Leave them be for now but I would like to have the Scarred Queen and our false Queen on Raligha begin recruiting potential agents. Like the best of their hunters and warriors
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>>3120611
>Leave them alone (Phantoms will continue to be under the guidance of the Scarred Queen)
We can go further into this in the midweek thread, no worries.

cont.
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>>3120633
Yeah, I feel we need an honest, long debate about how exactly we're going to deal with the Ralighans and Phantoms under our care. I'm fine with uplifting them, but not if it makes them dependent on us to do everything for them.

>>3120628
NO. THIS SALT IS A PART OF HIVE QUEEN QUEST. YOU CANNOT HAVE HIVE QUEST WITHOUT THE SALT.
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>>3120637
I understand that. I'm for uplifting, but I just want to play Hive Quest so I'm not voting.
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>>3120619
For fucks sakes nobody has advocated stripping them of independent thought, hell Hover-Mom doesn't even strip them of independent thought.
>>3120628
I FUCKING WANT ELITE AGENT SO I'LL ARGUE TO THE DEATH FOR IT
>>3120635
IT CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT US TAKING CONTROL. FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSE WE ARE LOCKED OUT OF ELITE RALIGHAN AND PHANTOMS.
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>>3120640
That is one of the espionage options being discussed, of which Leave them be blocks.
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>>3120640
So in other words you want to do the exact opposite of what you said, and interfere, since that is a basic requirement in order to do that.
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>>3120647
You know if you want a spinning ball of arms man, we can always just clone one and implant the necessary knowledge. Not as effective as an agent I know, but we'll get there eventually.
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>>3120643
I know you were joking, but, I can't help but feel you jinxed us.
Source of Salt: >>3120647
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>>3120647
Its annoying, the descriptions were clearly designed for us handling Humans and they cant seem to read between the lines that scaled for tech level it would be exactly what we want for the two worlds.
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>>3120647
Dude, calm down. We can deal with it in a midweek thread potentially. Let's just get on with the core of the quest without shitting up the thread, okay?
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>>3120654
>but we'll get there eventually.
We won't. We've been waiting months in quest for them to reach that level. It's not going to happen without more direct interference.
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>>3120654
Elite Agents are the whole point.

A living drum rolling down the streets of Acheron, shaking the hands of ten settlers at a time as he keeps the peace, ready to spin into danger at a moment's notice.
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>>3120667
We should research Ralighan psychology more before we try to unleash such glory upon the universe.
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>>3120653
I just want ralighan lightsaber berserkers and phantom assassins :(
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>>3120666
>waiting months
Do you not understand what long term means?
Were you seriously waiting for them to develop in under a year? Long term is thousands of years not next fucking month.
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>>3120671
Invasive research will get us that, but it just feels annoying when we could hand pick a group of elites right now for use on several diplomatic operations without waiting for another two or three threads.
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>the midweek thread

>12/19/18(Wed)
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>>3120673
And I want Space Folder and Hypergate technology. Unfortunately, this is intrinsic to Hive Quest, we have to pick an option that the majority finds desirable.
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>>3120673
For all intents and purposes they worship us. It won't be too hard to to find any number of high-end recruits even without using "mother knows best" or the like.
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>>3120676
So shit that doesn't matter in quest, got it.
Well at least I know you are against fun.
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>>3120673
I to wantlightsaber rals, but you realize we can just make clone ones for the agent purpose right
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>>3120678
We don't have a choice, we are unable to reach consensus. Dissent just makes us stray farther away from consensus.
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>>3120685
No we can't, not the ones we want.
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>>3120682
>Because you disagree with me you must hate fun
>>3120689
>No we can't, not the ones I want.
Fixed that for you.
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>>3120687
>don't have a choice
You always have a choice, you're just a defeatist.
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>>3120689
why are you so bent on elite agents? I love the rals but I doubt they have some super elite people. They're still cavemen
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>>3120693
What you want isn't within scope of the quest, thus pointless, thus you must hate fun.
Also I'm not the only one that wants Elite Ralighans.
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>>3120641
Your drones maintain their vigil as the city around you flashes periodically with light throughout the night as fires break out and isolated gunfights play out between Commonwealth troops and the occasional isolated Scavenger squad cut off and left abandoned outside of their defensive perimeter. Your titans can be seen like great silhouettes in the skyline, watching the port area from between office buildings and residential structures.

Cunningham, as well as the bulk of the Commonwealth forces, have taken up residence of an arcology several miles south-east of the port. Your speaker stands squat, perched with its four legs over a chair at a table in some manner of restaurant. The table is set out with a range of foods and drinks as several officers sit around it with Cunningham opposite your drone. The power is still on, but the holographic band flickers as the music stutters occasionally, and the rest of the pantry has been ransacked as swarms of enlisted men carry out crates of goods out to the make shift barracks.

Your drone quickly devours a steak placed before it on the table, picking up the plate it is on and eating both at once like a sandwich as the officers look on awkwardly.

"I hear the napkin is a good source of fiber." Cunningham says as your drone plucks it off the table with its beaked mandibles as he chuckles to himself.

"This food is sufficient." your drone chirps.

"Do you... taste it?" One of the officers asks.

"This drone's senses include the capacity to detect nutrition and toxins to a sufficient degree." You reply.

"That is what tasting is, when you get down to it." Cunningham says to the man with a shrug. "We humans have just gotten all uppity and fancy about it is all." He holds up his pipe and sends a few quick puffs of smoke billowing from his pursed lips as one of the officers examines a bottle of wine found covered in the neon blood of a Scav grunt and coated in dust. There are a few small chips in the bottle, but the cork comes off with the signature pop indicating the contents is still fresh.

"Well you better appreciate this one. We call it champagne. Nobody's managed to make a new batch since Earth ate it. Don't know how they had one here, but those scavs cleared out the staff here." The officer pours out the contents in several glasses. "This stuff is probably worth more than some starships by now. Most of them ended up bought up by Valen bankers. They don't even like the stuff, but they just gift them in an endless re-gifting cycle to one another from what I can tell. Traditionally though, us humans would drink it to celebrate a special occasion."

cont.

>>3120679
My job counts Sunday as the last day of the week, my concept of "mid-week" has been thrown off. Either way, I had to cover a double shift yesterday so I traded my Friday with the guy I covered for, meaning I have the rest of the week until Sunday free, and I plan on running a few more days as a result.
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>>3120681
That's what I was trying to say
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>>3120695
You remind of this one stupid faggot that used to post on BQ when that was still alive.
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>>3120693
Nah, just a bunch of douchebags around us disagreeing because of morals ("They must make progress on their own!" vs "They suffer for nothing but we can help them!") and gameplay choices ("I don't want to uplift them because I don't want to both to spend the resources" vs "I want some goddamn lightsaber wielding drums.")
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>>3120687
There is a difference between Dissent and Disscussion. So far most of the "Leave them be" votes seem to think any Espionage on them equates to their races becoming Hive mind slaves or made to order societies that will collapse the second we look away. And then a few that just want mommy and daddy to stop fighting.

>>3120676
We need Phantom agents within a much shorter time frame. both are Hive project races that have not moved past hunter gatherer since black queens betrayal. They will not advance without help.
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>>3120699
>Spiral Warrior - The clone has a mastery of the ancient martial art the Bladed Spiral, which utilizes the Ralighan biology to turn the individual into a spinning ball of knives and throwing weapons, utilizing slings and atlatls by tradition, but also other throwing weapons. It is most effective in an area with lots of vertical space, where the clone can utilize its adept climbing abilities to its advantage. This martial art is nearly unstoppable in close combat, especially in low or zero gravity.
This is what I want and we can get an Elite of this if you care enough to get it.
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>>3120695
Indeed I have a choice. Delay progress of Hivequest by fuelling the debate, or give up and be satisfied. I chose the later.
Besides, people told me off for wanting technology trade with the Cluster, Valen and Commonwealth. We'll get Valen Hypergate tech... hopefully. Eventually. But, it's going to take a long time without tech trade.
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>>3120706
Ritual consumption of toxins with Commonwealth officers is always fun.
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>>3120709
That's just your imagination as far as I care.
>>3120720
We have several methods to get that shit though and only one method to get elite agents. Guess what the problem?
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>>3120714
eh if they fail to advance notably in 30 to 50 thousand years we can wipe the ralighans out and create a new species to develop there.
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>>3120720
>Delay progress

None of us have the power to delay beyond a very small amount. Only QD has that power. He sets a final decisive Do/Do Not vote and moves on.

We're 4 hours into the thread now and now we're past crunch and into meticulously narrating the battle of Argos.

We really should stick those Scav scientist bodies in the meat lockers to scan their still-preserved brains later if we can...
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>>3120733
Whatever man.
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>>3120734
Okay, now I'm certain you have nothing of value to offer.
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>>3120751
Sure thing m8. You just keep throwing that tantrum because things don't go your way.
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>>3120706
I wonder how much champagne the decrepit Emperor that other speaker is heading towards has.
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It makes far too much sense to suspect Killinger of being a Smith.
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>>3120757
That's not what I'm you fag. You so far have been arguing in long term (which doesn't exist) and have just advocated for the genocide of an entire race for completely arbitrary reasons. For what purpose? For their good? If that were the case you would have never advocated genocide. For our good? No, your plan benefits us neither in the long term or short term. Further more you completely ignore our basic MO. While the other fags I can understand for misunderstanding the situation, you have no such excuse and are actively against spirit of quest itself.
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>>3120706
"Bad luck to celebrate a battle before it starts." Cunningham says. "How about to celebrate new friends instead?"

The humans raise their glasses, clinking them together as your speaker adjusts its grip on the slender crystal glass, eventually raising it as Cunningham taps it with his own.

"Maybe save some for after the battle then?"

"I'd say not." Cunningham replies. "I knew the man who ran this place. He was known to find odd rarities for various royalty. I suspect this bottle was meant for nobility. We drink it now, it's legally improvised field rations. We wait until after the battle, it's back to being private property. Use it or lose it, lads."

Your speaker quickly drinks the bubbling substance, smelling at the glass before eating it as well.

"This container is unique to most others. Its mineral content is improved over most." Your drone chirps. The officers burst into laughter, startling your drone.

"Forget the million credit champagne, this glass is the real showstopper!" One of them says. Cunningham holds his pipe with one hand as he laughs, wiping his eye with his napkin.

"Oh dear lord." He says. "Well I suppose it's true enough. I'm sure we have plenty more if you'd like. I doubt any of the men are going to miss them." Your drone watches as the other men gather the food, the loud ruckus of their party just beyond the doors heard in short bursts as the doors swing open with their passing. Songs can be heard, and the clattering of plates and what sounds to be several fights.

"There are two communal eating areas?" Your drone says.

"Yes. It's typically best to maintain a degree of separation between officers and the enlisted." An officer says. "The squad officers will tend to have their own table in there as well, but it tends to help with morale."

"Communal dining is a major social event for humans." Cunningham says. "I'm sure the other drones will manage to enjoy themselves though. Detoxers or not, those men will manage to have their fun, and by god they've earned it. We'll be diving right into hell come morning, and not all of them will come out the other side."

You can sense the other men scattered across the arcrology, mingling with your warriors as various companies decorate them with squad colors and challenge them to eat various increasingly inedible objects for fun, your drones happily chewing through walls, plants, plates, metal rods, and one warrior offered a bowl of ammunition as an enlisted trooper scribbles 'eat the pain' on its chest and the rest of the squad cheer it on.

Elsewhere, several drop troopers spar with your warrior, moving rapidly through the room as they struggle, cybernetic suit against bioengineered muscle, while other troopers collect credit chips in their hats and write bets on scraps of paper. Along the periphery of the scene Commonwealth snipers and combat rangers sit on piles of debris or against the wall with Ghost Beetles curled up at their sides.
cont.
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>>3120796
Sometimes you need to prune the underperforming fruit trees so that more productive ones can prosper.
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>>3120797
Your writing is absolutely fantastic, this leaves warm fuzzy feelings in my chest despite the relative apathy of the warriors.
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>>3120796
dudes just shit posting and you're feeding it.
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>>3120797
>Ghost beetles acting like doggos
qt!
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>>3120797
How are our children so perfect?
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>>3120811
Their simple minds are a reflection of our will.
This is a reflection of the vision shown in Seiner Quest - "A great Albion tree, with moss on its bark and many beings living in its trunk." We've offered our hand in friendship, and these soldiers have happily taken it.
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>>3120803
Why not prune yourself first? You speak of the future like it exists when the enemy is constantly pruning it. We need to make use of everything we can in order to have a future including the Ralighans. Also the Ralighans are extreme religious traditionalists and made by the Gardener. They are incapable of progress without an outside force by nature and were made by one of the Queens that the players respect the most. By your logic we should prune people like Lee for not being Lyle which I completely disagree with.
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>>3120811
Cute hive is best hive. It is known.
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>>3120819
Dude stop responding he's just baiting, nobody else holds his opinion so you dont have to worry about it spreading dude.
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>>3120825
Do we have anything better to do until the next post?
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>>3120832
I don't know, arguing just seems like a horrible way to spend your time. Like play a game or something.
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>>3120832
Like have an intelligent discussion?
No, I suppose not.
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>>3120837
>intelligent discussion
The term is very arbitrary in my opinion.
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>>3120837
I'd say something about the nature of the Psionic Cannon as a large-scale quantum uncertainty manipulation device usable by non-psionic operators and how the Void considers this a big enough threat to warrant direct physical intervention.

But i'm preoccupied with tax forms atm.
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>>3120832
Well the high value of champagne could be a thing we can exploit once our earth hive is in place. I'm sure someone left a case or two behind. In addition if Champagne France didn't get hit by moon bits we could make our own.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WTOaGLSSXE
FUCK IT. WHO HERE LIKES TAIWANESE PUPPETSHOWS?
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>>3120849
Well, I suppose theres a difference between an exchange of information and where a person is deliberately enraging somebody.
But yes. Abitrary and relative.
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>>3120857
Its ridiculous how good that show is, but lets keep the discussions quest based. Like how would Hive produced puppet shows be received in the commonwealth planets.
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>>3120797
Your patrolling drones watch as snow falls gently on the city throughout the night, blanketing the city in a layer of white, glowing against the faint starlight and the reflections of campfires across the city and the smoldering of rubble. As the night continues, your speaker stands idle, awaiting the morning until Cunningham walks up to it as your drone looks over an observation deck, looking on at the scavenger fortifications beyond, where thermal scans show a constant activity.

"Do you not require sleep as the other humans?" Your drone asks simply.

"I've always had a hard time sleeping before a battle." He says. "I'm too alert. Typically I go over the battle plans again and again, and eventually I run out of things to plan for and just start patrolling." He says. "I find it's easier to just take a few stims in the morning than it is to manage to sleep. As for you, I suspect hive drones have a more efficient biology. Do you ever require sleep?"

"Drones do not sleep as humans, but do require periods of inactivity to repair damage." Your drone says. Cunningham takes a quick swig of his drink.

"Those special forces are still out there. We've got maybe a dozen civilian locations marked by now and they keep coming in. Your drones are really making thins a lot smoother in that regard." He says.

"The Scavengers are fortifying their position against us."

"Yes, I suspect they are, but we can handle that with our men on the inside. Have them set some bombs and take out some of their alphas along the front line." Cunningham takes another sip of his drink as the snow begins to build on the shoulders of your titans, their faces simmering with steam as their mandibles glow with the ambient heat of their breath.

>Ask Cunningham a question
>Speak about something else
>Other
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So. I noticed that the Union has postal service, with a facility that allows a discount on shipping items,
Can we have such a service ourselves or are we already at such a high efficiency any such gains would be negligible?
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>>3120857
ISHYGDDT
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>>3120867
>Ask Cunningham a question
How much do you think the sudden appearance of two space-faring races and this war against the scavs will change Commonwealth society, and human society in general?
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>>3120867
>Speak about something else
something something puppets... damn it, ive got nothing.I guess let the speaker just babble about random things. It is good at speaking.
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>>3120867
>Ask Cunningham a question
"You and the other men are good friends of ours. When we have the time, we can provide you with better prosthetics if you want."
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Yeah I don't even fucking know at this point.
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>>3120867
>Speak about something else
Just talk about Lyle with him.
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>>3120867
>>Other
Kiss him. The scene is perfect for it
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>>3120879
>>3120887
I like these two.
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>>3120889
>tfw you make a joke about kissing someone and end up causing a major diplomatic incident because the vote goes through.
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>>3120867
>>Ask Cunningham a question
Few human leaders put themselves in mortal danger as you do. This makes you more popular than others but risks your life, somewhat difficult to replace. Why?
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>>3120867
>Ask Cunningham a question
Does the lack of sleep not impair you? Humans are very squishy and should observe proper resting periods.
>>3120889
That'd be horrifying.
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>>3120889
No.
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>>3120867
>Ask Cunningham a question
Your humans and the Hive appear to work efficiently together. This war with the scavengers and their masters will yet take much time to complete. Perhaps the Cunningham has ideas on how to improve our compatibility further?

Just dropping the smallest hint at the Scav's "masters", remember, in-character the Hive still thinks the scavs serve/served the Void

>>3120879
This is okay too
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>>3120867
>>Ask Cunningham a question
This speaker would taste these 'stims'.

What role did Argos fill before the Scavengers came? What role will you fill when not fighting for your species survival? Will you fight the other human faction?

You spoke of various royalty? Are you familiar with them?
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>>3120889
Romantic atmosphere or not, Speaker has a beak. It would be difficult.

Would need to use a lot of tongue just to avoid causing injury.
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>>3120921
So what you're saying is we should use stinger whip?
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>>3120927
better than ovipositor...
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>>3120867
>Ask Cunningham a question
If the Hive had not intervened, what technology or salvage would the scavengers have access to? What would they prioritize getting off world and duplicating?
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You know, my argument for tech trade with Valen was pretty stupid, since we can simply spam humanitarian aid trade routes to them until they agree to give us Hypergate technology.
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>>3120917
We've never thought that, some anons read to much into skavs using Watcher starmaps.

We thought The Void operates using Crystals because they cant use their old tech having ascended. until Seiner gets back or we find out another way we should keep operating on that assumption but abandoned Watcher tech has always been a separate thing from the Void threat which was proved by our recent encounter since there was no void response when investigating the Watcher instillation.
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>>3120867
>>Speak about something else
The hive biology is indeed very efficient. Efficient at healing wounds in alien life, as well. Are there human injuries that require tending? Wounds can be rapidly regenerated.
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>>3120889
>mfw
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>>3120933
I don't think we've shared the intelligence about Scavenger culture my dude.
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>>3120936
>there was no void response when investigating the Watcher
To be fair, we stopped the signal from sending. There was at least speculation it might have been the Void before Seiner gets back.
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>>3120942
It’s literally in their name, they steal and never produce technology on their own. In our first introduction to the Commonwealth we pretty much said exactly that.
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>>3120879
>>3120917
>>3120933
These are good. They show that we want to work with the Commonwealth more and will help us get a better understanding of their society/probable decisions

>>3120942
No time like the present to start sharing juicy intel on the scavs with our friends!
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>>3120942
>>3120953

Their M.O. at least is obvious and inferred.
>>>/tg/48678623
>"Those armored suits, those are new. Engineered from our own drop suits, perhaps, but that would mean they can go from reverse engineering to mass production in days to weeks." He says. Your drone chitters softly, almost mumbling to itself.
>"yes, very slow to adapt."
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>>3120943
We didn't though, the sugar planet sent a response to the multimoon system and thay retaliated in that system aswell. yes the Void and the Watchers are still birds of a feather, but we havn't even had sign one of the scavs serving anything, they use Watcher maps to target planets that they harvest and grow their numbers, they are methodical and noisy kind of the opposite of the way the void operates and they have no predisposed hate for the Hive. The Matron is looking at us as a "possibly maybe enjoyable fight huhuhu"
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>>3120955
Alrighty. Backing this plan.
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>>3120960
I doubt they're under any influence considering if they were they'd be attacking the expanse instead of fucking around.
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>>3120960
The thing in the Void is a weapon to destroy the Watchers. Also the Scavenger would be unlikely to still worship the Watchers if they knew the Watchers were so peaceful.
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>>3120867
"The Human history records show that first contact is often violent." You say. "The Hive has had mixed results as well, but the outcome of long term relations is less predictable."

"Are you talking about long term contact with the Scavs, or us?" He says, pointing between your drone and himself. "I suppose it hardly matters. Even with the scavs the answer is the same to me. More war."

"You see war with the Hive in your future?"

"Yes." Cunningham says simply. "On your side, sure, but war all the same. You helped us with these bastards pounding in the back door on us, and I suspect the Admiralty board will want to return the favor, or at least once the Union dilemma is dealt with nice and proper. I'd be all for it to boot. We owe you something fierce. Yogesh would have gotten bogged down fighting on several fronts and we'd end up wasting all our fleets fighting off aliens while the Union ground down our front lines. Who knows how bad things would have gotten without that help. I'd kick in the door to hell gimp leg first in return for that." He takes a long sip of his drink, and with a satisfied sigh, jams his pipe into the corner of his mouth. "I suspect we'll end up working on helping you out with that other hive of yours, unless you have similar scruples of involving other species with your interspecies wars as we do."

"It is rare among humans to lead so directly." Your drone says. "You have sustained injury in combat and participate in initial attacks, yet are a commanding unit. The Cunningham's value is too great to be lost in combat in such a manner."

"Aye, but a man who sees his commander in the thick of it with him is worth ten men in any other army. They know I won't give them an order I won't do myself, and because of that they trust me. They'd charge into hell at my order and I say that as a boast of their quality, not mine." Cunningham says, his mouth spewing smoke with each breath. "Your drones work on raw numbers, and I respect that as a tactician, but a large part of fighting a war for a human is itself the human element. You can face down an army twice your size, but if you can get them to turn tail and run you'll still win, like that charge of the city perimeter guns? Proper show of shock and awe if I ever did see it."

"The human soldiers have shown greater morale than expected." Your drone replies. "Scav psychology is pack-based, yet their morale breaks before commonwealth forces in most engagements."

"I've been thinking on that." He says. "And while I'll take the compliment where I can, and would like to chalk it up to superior training, I suspect there is a matter of the quality of our enemy. I'd bet you there is going to be a higher standard within those gates. We'll be striking iron on iron come morning. Fortunately your drones lack any need for such morale, and my men have a score to settle. My drop division is too prideful to not make it clear they're better than those tin knock-offs they've got."

cont.
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>>3120936
No visible Void response. Doesn't mean much, most of their acts aren't visible.

But yeah without Seiner's knowledge the exact reason for the silicate technology's abandonment for a million years remained mysterious.

We still don't know where that farm-manager intelligence disappeared to. It probably didn't die. It probably went somewhere. Hopefully it wasn't using slipspace.

>>3120917
Having 'masters' was just one competing hypothesis among others, like cargo cult. Not good to drop that there.
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>"I've been thinking on that." He says. "And while I'll take the compliment where I can, and would like to chalk it up to superior training, I suspect there is a matter of the quality of our enemy. I'd bet you there is going to be a higher standard within those gates. We'll be striking iron on iron come morning. Fortunately your drones lack any need for such morale, and my men have a score to settle. My drop division is too prideful to not make it clear they're better than those tin knock-offs they've got."

Oh boy, more Broodmothers to parasite and FINALLY gain some more Scavenger technology!
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>>3120973
Seiner knows this but hes still training with first, so thats Meta knowledge. The Hive ie. Us do not know this,

We know that the Watchers were the ancient enemy.
The Void Wiped out the ancient hives
The Arc Was sent to the Watchers home region to fight the Void
The Void whipped out all other hives with the help of OQ
The Cluster with incomplete info complained about our War with the Watcher still going on and to not wake it again until we were done bitching since It went to sleep before the Void was born.
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>>3120978
Maybe that specifically isn't good to drop here, but I'd definitely love to casually drop some knowledge bombshells about the scavs just to watch the reaction if nothing else. Everyone loves the cheeky hive.
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>>3120981
There's only one, no way would two be crowded together on the same ship.

It's just said singular leader keeps a lot of elite alphas around with rarer non-mass produced equipment.
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>>3120983
Well we should tell him in advanced that we'll have to confiscate the Flicker drive since it's likely a relic of the war.
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>>3120987
We should aim to capture those Elite Scavengers. If we can.
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>>3120991
Regardless of additional rationalizations like that, as he admitted, they're heavily in our debt. It's human planets we're protecting, not hive. So we should get first dibs on salvage anyway sacred or not.
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>>3120982
Man QD's typo for Ark is contagious.
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>>3120991
>we'll have to confiscate the Flicker drive since it's likely a relic of the war.
True, although that reminds me of something else. We demanded the Commonwealth seize and turn over the void shards from the Mirage in exchange for our military action against the scavs. We might want to remind them of that detail soon.
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>>3120991
And also a Couch, we will need one reasonably sized Scavanger built couch.
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>>3120994
I’ve been wondering if we should use that nat 100 from the previous thread to try to save as much Scavanger info and biological data as possible- or go for broke in a two prong Trojan horse attack on the brood mother ship
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>>3120991
I'm impartial anyway. If we gain the knowledge of Scavenger Flicker Drive and Anti-Matter powercores through sifting through Scavenger brains, the Commonwealth can have it.
>>3121002
At this point that joke is so overused its pure shitposting.
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>>3120997
what, they filled a ship with eggs and threw it foot ball style, thus Arc
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>>3120974
>gimp leg
Yeah about that left leg of yours.... we really shouldn't leave it like that.
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>>3120974
"Still" Cunningham continues, "These boys nowadays are nothing to the old guard. After the Colony Wars we really beefed up our troops. Training, equipment, cybernetics. We streamlined the process too much if you ask me. Back then we'd recruit drop troopers from the badest asses to crawl their way out of the hell of the trench alive, slap them in a suit, and shoot them at the enemy like we're launching artillery." He speaks with some level of reverence in his voice, his mind recalling distant memories of brutal civil wars and partisan conflicts as if remembering a memorable vacation. "There was a particular generation about that time. I don't think we've ever matched those men, and I doubt our officers would be worthy of their command if we could." He lets out a long sigh. "Not too many around anymore. Most retired. A few were promoted, but a desk job doesn't fit that kind of soldier. When we started getting the new blood in the officer corps, they had issues. You can't command someone who doesn't respect you."

"It sounds as if you speak of the Lyle Rogers." Your drone says. Cunningham chokes on a puff of smoke.

"Ah! I haven't heard that in years!" He says. "Not since I read the reports on his escape. 'good on him' I thought at the time. I saw some intell cross my desk that looked like his handiwork in the Expanse but I never paid it much mind. He working with the Hive now?"

>Yes
>No
>Other
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>>3121003
I want to try to see if we can convince the Scavenger Matron to join us.
>>3121010
>Yes
>Other
He seems enjoy his job and the technology we given him access to.
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>>3121010
>>Yes, he has done some work for us. You are correct, he is a respectable warrior.
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>>3121010
>Yes
>We have given Lyle a new life and purpose. Perhaps we could help the generation of warriors you speak of too.
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>>3121010
The Lyle enjoys working for whoever provides him with cybernetic augmentations or credits. Hive biological expertise exceeds the human designed augments he once sported.
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>>3121010
The Lyle is currently attempting to drown his enhanced physiology in various intoxicating beverages on The Builder's Gift.
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>>3120997
I blame DAtS
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>>3121010
>Yes
He recently rescued an important asset by smashing a ghost with large piece of building. give no further explanation.
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>>3121010
>>Other

What was the handiwork? Was it needlessly gratuitous destruction?
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>>3121013
Yes, I'm interested in subverting a Scavenger world ship.
>>3121010
>Yes
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>>3121023
It was probably nuking the Valen station.
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>>3121025
Obviously. But he has to admit that.
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>>3121003
Trojan horse attack could work wonders. We need to find a way to effectively use our legion of infiltrators from the 100 for sure.
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>>3121010
Confusion. Rogers was not yet born during the 'old guard' of the Colony Wars. You said new blood was inferior.
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>>3121010
>Other
Switch topics
“Lovely night for snow no?”
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>>3121029
Hopefully some of the implanted will be on the ship allowing us to stop any self destruct or escape attempts.
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>>3121013
That's what the parasite is for.

Scavengers have proven capable of working with other races as slaves to be manipulated and lied to, but somehow they cannot manage to surrender, even as a lie planning to betray us later. It was tried with Drinker of Pain. Their language doesn't work for that.
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>>3121010
>>Yes
With shades of these two>>3121013
>>3121016
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>>3121010
We really should be picking up more images and emotions from mr. nostalgia here through passive mind reading.
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>>3121039
Actually there do seem to be exceptions. Like when joining a "fleet." What you described is what happens when they interact with races they perceive as inferior or weaker. What happens when a race stronger than them and has control bargains with them? Also working together doesn't necessitate surrender.
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>>3121010
"Yes. The Lyle enjoys the benefits of the hive's technology for his work."

"And alcohol." He says. "I suspect he's still a raging drunk. The man had issues. I suspect they've compounded since his days on Helviti, but goddamn he was the best soldier I've ever known. When death finally comes for that man he had better be ready for a scrap."

"He is an excellent combat expert. We have given him newfound life and purpose for his fight." Your drone says. Cunningham nods.

"Makes sense. Lyle was always a might makes right kind of man. Typical Tarwin mentality, really. I never asked him about it but I knew he had something eating at him, when one of his kind fails they come back twice as hard. If they fall off the horse, they slug it in the jaw and drag the thing the rest of the way themselves." He blinks with some sudden realization, smiling knowingly.

"He had a death wish as it were, made him fight... well, almost like your own warriors. A mad barbarian with no value for his own life, at least none I could tell. I suspect when the unstoppable force met the immovable object..." He looks to your drone. "Aye, you gave him a proper thrashing, didn't you? Let me guess, his days as a merc had him bite off more than he could chew?" He lets out a hearty laugh. "That must have been a surprise!" He says. "No confusion on who the boss is in that relationship!" He continues to chuckle to himself in relative silence, his mouth sputtering with smoke as he holds his pipe wedged between his teeth.

"Perhaps the Lyle could assist in training your new soldiers if you feel they are not sufficient?" You ask. Cunningham composes himself and nods.

"Hm, perhaps, but I suspect he would appreciate the task less than a front line post. Besides his kind of mettle can't be trained. Still I'd never say no to help, especially from a good soldier like Rogers."

>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
>Do not
>Speak about something else
>Other (write in)
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>>3121051
>>Do not
>>Speak about something else

Lyle runs very fast with new legs. You should try some improvements yourself.
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>>3121051
>>Speak about something else
maybe about that king trying to by immortality from us?
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>>3121051
>Speak about something else
The Hive will request the scavenger cruiser once it is captured.
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>>3121050
Ideology doesn't bend that easily. It would be contradictory to all they know. Water cannot be dry, aliens cannot be superior.
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>>3121051
>Speak about something else

"There are few like you, and Yoggesh, who understand the meaning of Life and Death in such unique ways. This one wants to know. What is best in life? Could a man who lives without fear of death be called human?"

Lets low key ask if he thinks people could handle immortality.
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>>3121058
We just need instructions on how to disarm the charges they've placed if they prove unnecessary to prevent their escape.
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>>3121050
In the memories Scavs were slaves to other scav. granted those weren't the higher casts.

>>3121051
>Do not
I don't know what use it would be, we don't want them second guessing shooting scavs in the heat of battle. maybe mention the possibility of Scav insurrectionists in the enemy ranks but we don't really have anything actionable until we roll for that eventuality.

>Speak about something else
Upgrades?
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>>3121051
>>Speak about something else
Are there Admiralty Council members the hive has not yet been introduced to? The human leadership has never been fully explained.
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>>3121070
I really want to hear about the mysterious Commandant Zadornov but we've only surreptitiously overheard his name through eavesdropping and mind-reading they don't know we were capable of.
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>>3121051
>>Speak about something else
We will need to seize the Scavenger cruiser intact when this battle is over. What we have been fighting is only the vanguard of their Armada, and possession of the cruiser is key to disrupting the core of their fleet.

>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
But only in very broad terms. For example, say we may be able to "misdirect" scavengers with pheromones and disrupting their communication without giving away our outright control.
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>>3121069
Backing speaking about upgrades. The troopers down here could sure as hell use better gear.
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>>3121051
>>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
Know I'm farting against thunder here but we should mention it before the shooting starts.

>Speak about something else
Augmentations!
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>>3121051
>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
We've really need to if we want to use them.
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>>3121083
Backing.
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>>3121051
>>Other (write in)
Atemporal scene change to the imperial court? So many more doors to pass through before meeting the poor little 200 year old orphan boy needing adoption.
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>>3121051
Mention the infiltration and suggest that we let it escape with them while we capture the Matron while she's on the ground
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>>3121051
"If it is possible, the enemy vessel should be captured intact." You say.

"I agree. Especially if it's powered by antimatter. We should be able to take out its thrusters if we have to, but if worse comes to worse you still have plenty of ships in orbit."

"Scavenger technology should be recovered with priority." You reply, Cunningham nods.

"We've never been inside a scav ship before. It should offer some excellent intelligence, not to mention their technology. We won't be blowing it up unless we need to, don't you worry. Once the shooting starts our plans will likely go out the window. No plan survives contact with the enemy, after all, but even still if we move fast enough I doubt they will be able to take off. They haven't done so yet, and they know your fleet is up there."

"The Hive may be able to sow chaos within the enemy ranks. We will attempt to cause disruption as the battle begins." Cunningham looks to your drone with a wicked smile.

"I'm certainly looking forward to it. What exactly are you planning?"

"The Hive has means outside of your capacity." You reply, he shrugs.

"Of course, sufficiently advanced voodoo hoodoo, I get it."

>Offer cybernetics
>Ask about other Admirals and Commonwealth leadership
>Other
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>>3121097
>Other
Let's offer Hive equipment since cybernetics take too long.
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>>3121097
>why-not-both.jpg
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>>3121097
>>Offer cybernetics
>>Ask about other Admirals and Commonwealth leadership
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>>3121097
>>Other

Backing >>3121100
Can we offer hive armor and weapons even without cybernetics?
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>>3121102
>>3121101
These
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>>3121097
>Offer cybernetics
The hive would be saddened to learn you perished due to inferior modifications.
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>>3121097
>Ask about other Admirals and Commonwealth leadership
So how does the Emperor and his sons fit in with all the rest of the Admiralty?
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>>3121105
Medium Carapace doesn't require any implants
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>>3121100
Maybe not tonight, but we can't manufacture hive weapons designed for human trigger pulling tonight either. That would also take time.

But we can do it very soon, in the downtime after battle.

Also anyone we install cybernetics in, we get a free knowledge download from.
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>>3121109
>>3121108
>>3121102
>>3121101
>pass out cybernetics like two bit whores
At least try to play hard to get.
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>>3121097
>Offer cybernetics
UPGRADES

Don't for get that second heart, really who built the humans to forget such a vital component.Oh right, mom did.
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>>3121097
>Offer cybernetics and weapons/gear/armor [HIVE GIFTS ARE BEST GIFTS!]
>Ask about other Admirals and Commonwealth leadership
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>>3121113
We already have you faggot.
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>>3121114
Just say it puts them further into our debt, Valen style. It works for them.

Was gifting them a pile of guns any better?
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>>3121119
More like "lending"
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>>3121114
Why do you think we didn't start rip'n and stitch'n as soon as the battle slowed, there are probably a handful of drones near the med tents creeping everyone out right now.
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>>3121122
And wouldn't you know interest is one hell of a bitch. There's nothing wrong with getting the Commonwealth even further in our debt, as well as continuing to demonstrate how awesome we are as allies.

>>3121113
We already have plenty of human capable weaponry stockpiled. The Hive manufacturing capacity is insane.
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>>3121130
But there is something wrong with giving them tech and weapons to use against the Union.
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Actually, would asking our Commonwealth friends for a Laser gun or buying one in the Union be better for our reverse engineering purposes?
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>>3121130
Are they stockpiled on this planet?
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>>3121139
There's a simple solution, we bitchslap them if they even think about using our weapons against the Union.

Also, we're about to parasite the biggest warmonger in the Commonwealth (the Emperor), and will have ample leverage to force them to abandon the war with the Union. The Union, for it's part, is in no shape to pursue ware against the Commonwealth either what with spores growing on Path and repeated OQ/Ceph/Void incursions posing increasingly dangerous threats.
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>>3121142
You're aware we have multiple instantaneous FTL capabilities, a large fleet in orbit, the fighting doesn't start for several in-game hours, right?
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>>3121139
This isn't a trade deal, this is a You guys here, you gets guns and ammo, especially since they were feeding our warriors their own ammo earlier.
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>>3121097
Seconding>>3121100
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>>3121097
Has the Hive been offering advanced emergency medicine on the field to Commonwealth troopers or have our drones mostly been ambulances and EMTs?
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>>3121150
I can just see it, a trooper gets a nasty gut shot and falls behind some cover when a fly dives into the wound ripping out bullet fragments and then starts vomiting nasty black goo into the wound. by the time the trooper can even think about swatting the fly away its buzzing off to continue scouting and the trooper is feeling a lot better.
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>>3121159
The most horrifying medical aid is the best medical aid. How appropriate for the hive.
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>>3121097
"The Hive has many technologies that would benefit the humans. We could provide improvements to biological frailty and poor design."

"You mean your biological technology." He says. "I suspect you have little differentiation between your organ splicing and your cybernetics. We can vat-grow an organ, or make a fake one all the same, but I suspect the two are identical in process for you."

"We also have weapons or devices for use that require no implantation." Your speaker says. It hesitates for a moment. "Some of the benefit from implantation, but it is not needed."

"That's a good offer." Cunningham says. "I doubt it would be to regulation, but if you have any gear available I'm sure my men could use some. The easier to use the better, some of the wild-worlders are not quite used to tech. Typically they're more effective with a melee weapon so we give them a powered blade and covering fire and let them do their thing."

>Offer weapons for use in the fight
>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
>Offer several Heavy Carapace suits for the fight
>Other
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>>3121162
Dont forget our medpods look like giant pitcher plants filled with teeth and have legs
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>>3121165
>Offer weapons for use in the fight
>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
>Offer several Heavy Carapace suits for the fight
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>>3121165
Give em weapons and some medium carapace.
Lyle can show the heavy suits off later
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>>3121165
>>Offer weapons for use in the fight
>>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
>>Offer several Heavy Carapace suits for the fight
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>>3121165
>all the options

SHOWER OUR FRIENDS WITH GIFTS
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>>3121165
>Offer weapons for use in the fight
>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
>Offer several Heavy Carapace suits for the fight

This has a secondary benefit of being a field test of our militia gear we are going to be equipping expanse humans with.
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>>3121165
>give everything.
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>>3121114
>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
The hive will of course expect these to be returned.
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>>3121176
And a potential way to recruit elite agents later on by having soldiers volunteer after seeing them in action
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>>3121165
>Offer weapons for use in the fight
>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
>Offer several Heavy Carapace suits for the fight
If any of our weapons manage to “slip” past the reclaimation once the fighting is done, we could alter them into influencing whoever tries to smuggle them out.
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>>3121185
Hey we could easily put tracking devices in all of them.
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>>3121185
Easy failsafe is have them self destruct if they get out of relay contact
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>>3121165
>>Offer weapons for use in the fight
>>Offer several Medium Carapace suits for the fight
>>Offer several Heavy Carapace suits for the figh
Yep, all of the things.
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>>3121192
>>3121188
I remember us talking about this when we were thinking about using From Other as a clandestine way of selling hive gear but I don't remember what or if we made a final decision since we never got around to actually doing it.
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>>3121188
Indeed. Even if we don't have trackers (which would be incredibly easy to install), we have eyes all over this battlefield. I suspect anyone trying to steal Hive gear would relatively quickly find themselves getting a surprise visit from ghost beetles relatively quickly.
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>>3121196
Oh yeah we totally started that company, with a focus on fusion reactors if memory serves. Don't know if anything has come of it since or if the Valen we struck that deal with has been socially assassinated by his fellows yet, but we did.
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>>3121203
See >>3119891
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>>3121165
"Hive combat technology utilizes melee weapons. We shall provide what devices we have available to assist the human soldiers willing to use them."

"The way you say that tells me that they may not be the most pleasant things to hold for the typical human senses." Cunningham says with a chuckle. "I'll be sure they are returned at the end of the engagement, and I'm sure the men will appreciate it."

"There may not be time to provide upgrades to the humans." Your drone says. "But the offer remains."

"Yes. I'm just not sure if there will be as many takers on that front. Your medical salve has been a live saver though. Rub in on like lotion and the wound is gone. suspect it's some nano-constructor, but with flesh? Like a stem cell? We have similar things in our own field kids, but it takes hours or days for the fabricated cells to adopt the host structure, yours is so fast the metabolic process makes the damn thing smoke like an overcooked pie."

"Hive medical technology is highly developed." Your drone says simply.

"I thank you for it." He says. "And I must admit I'm a trifle curious on your cybernetics, if only to see what kind of options you have on hand. I understand you're able to balance cell regeneration with uncontrolled mutation. Our own regenerative therapies can only take it so far." Cunningham says. "You know I'm a hundred and three?" He asks suddenly. "I'd say I look maybe forty, fifty at most, but the treatments can't keep up forever."

"There are humans older. The Hive has heard of a human called Emperor. The humans have kept him alive for much longer."

"Ah, you've heard of him?" He says. "I've been working for a few of the houses in his realm. Argos is tied up in a few nobility claims and they like me to keep the peace when they start getting in a bickering mood." Cunningham looks out as several distant flairs of light reveal some scavenger workers spot welding some metallic device along the perimeter of their defenses, their images exposed from their height on some gun platform. "The Reuenthals have been a centerpiece of human politics for centuries. The Emperor pre-dates the Commonwealth by another century easily. He's probably the oldest man living." He seems to think on it, his mind cluttered with various intel reports. "Maybe there's some corporate man in the Union, one of those 'patriot's that helped fund the Colony Wars. Few of them may give him a run for the title, but I think he beats them out by a few years. At first it was good, his realm was one of the only stable regions of human space during the Wars, and it was around his system that the Commonwealth rallied initially. If it weren't for his empire the Confederacy would have collapsed totally, instead of reforming."

"How many more years can human technology sustain this human?" You ask. Cunningham shrugs.

cont.
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>>3121210
Definitely gotta start investing in some aggressive expansion in Form Other’s portfolio- having multiple industries and markets tapped will exponentially increase our credit income.
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>>3121218
Wait the commonwealth is ran by the emperor? I thought the other human group was
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>>3121226
The Union is a representative democracy (in a loose sense) with a parliament and no central executive (yet, they are proposing a so-called "king bill" to create a president).

The Commonwealth is an Empire ruled by an Emperor who mostly lives in his medical tank, and the subject worlds have relatively large autonomy if they pay their tithes. So it's like the 40k Imperium of Man. In fact, I almost expect the Emperor to be a latent psionic.
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>>3121226
"Emperor" Rusenthal controls a few planets in the Commonwealth and is very influential, but he definitely doesn't run the whole thing.
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>>3121226
Hes supper geriatric so he doesn't really run anything but I think hes the highest point on the commonwealth hill even if he doesn't control the whole thing as a unit
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>>3121230
>>3121231
>>3121232
Thanks lads.
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>>3121226
The Empire comprises the largest single chunk of the Commonwealth- it’s collectively run by the Admiralty

>>3121218
>Maybe there's some corporate man in the Union, one of those 'patriot's that helped fund the Colony Wars.
>Do you fear death, Mr. Krasnikov?
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>>3121226
...Anon what do you think the other faction is exactly.

Neither of those things is true.
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>>3121236
Anon I have super bad memeory and it's super late here so I thought the union had an emperor and the commonwealth were abunch of hicks
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>>3121241
no the one with the hicks is Talgo. Just ask Lee.
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>>3121218
"No idea." He says. "Seems it's always hovered around one, but every year he comes out with a new technology or therapy or surgery that kicks the can down the road a little bit longer. It can't go on forever though, I hear he's just about already a corpse. A breathing corpse, granted, but one all the same. Not sure what he spends more on at this point, medical research, or propaganda to try and keep up his appearance as some kind of god-emperor. Back in the day, it was good for stability, but now it's starting to wear thin on all of us. Nobody knows when he's going to kick it, and his kids are starting to get ideas. The dangerous kind, the kind that start wars." Cunningham looks back behind him, examining the room as his voice becomes more quiet.

"Not even sure if he is still alive in all honesty. Nobody has seen the man in person for decades. Most say he just stays aboard his high-c cruiser for the time dilation, but some people think he's long dead and one of his viceroys have been pulling strings ever since. But you didn't hear that one from me. I don't put any stock in that theory anyways. Always figured the bag of bones was just floating in a medical tank somewhere the whole time."

"This human is the oldest human? What of the admirals?" Cunningham looks to you confused.

"Well most of them are ripe old age too, myself among them, obviously. Marshal's a real tough nut, you'd never guess he's over a century the way he barks orders the way he does, but all told he's probably not that unusual. Hell he's probably a bit young for the Admiralty board, but I'd hate to know anyone dumb enough to stand in the man's way. I credit him with the fact this whole damn place hasn't come down around us by now." He shrugs. "Of course the Union's no better, just better at hiding it with their democracy[/] of theirs." He says the word with clear disdain. "Union is neither a democracy, nor should it want to be. Instead it's squat in the worst compromise, swinging back and forth from one whim to another, but no matter which way they swing they're circling the same drain. I'd appreciate if you didn't repeat this, but I'm of a mind that we humans have a hard time maintaining a government for more than a few generations without letting it all fall apart."

"And these other admirals are even older?" Your drone says. "It seems all of the human leaders are very old. Are there no new leaders available?"

cont.
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>>3121247
Well the Space Pope must be helping with that whole god-emperor perception right.
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>>3121247
Man, our mom was what nearly a hundred thousand years old when she kicked it? War doesn't care if your an ancient near god or a freshly hatched warrior drone.
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>>3121247
>I'd appreciate if you didn't repeat this, but I'm of a mind that we humans have a hard time maintaining a government for more than a few generations without letting it all fall apart."
Sad, but true. This guy is a smart cookie.
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>>3121247
And Zadornov is probably the young hot shot huh. The wildcard.

We still aren't clear on what the exact number of the Board is?
>The Admiralty Board itself is composed of an unknown number of officers typically believed to number between four and six people, with the members elected by the Interstellar Fleet's admirals from among themselves. While the details regarding the Board are not classified, it is not typically publicly available information.
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>>3121247
"Oh there are plenty. The younger generation always has an opinion, it's just that they tend to be a bad one. We have our own academies to train the next generation of leaders, so in that regard at least I think we'll come out better than the Union with their Mentan." He scoffs at the mention, his mind racing with potent insults. "What good can ever come of training all of your leaders in a corporate owned private entity? Who do you think actually runs the Union after a generation? How many bureaucrats do you think Mentan churns out in a year? Ah, it doesn't matter, this war will toughen up the youngsters anyhow. Lean makes mean as I say. Never seen a man make a hard choice in good times."

"Of course, our Admirals as they are now are mostly Colony War veterans. All the better, our lot knows what it's like in a war, the good and the bad, and we know how to fight it. Over the years most of us started floating to the top. One day we seemed to look around in the aftermath of the war, and realized there was nobody else. It hits like a brick. One day after a bad round of enemy artillery a private walks up to you and says you're the ranking officer now. Somewhere along the line the Admiralty got a bit fancy about it. The smoke and mirrors helps keep things stabilized while people leave or come in fresh. I don't remember having a ceremony for any admiral that died outside of combat, now that I think of it." He puffs on his pipe as faces and names flash through his mind.

"No, no the last Admiral to get a full ceremony was Admiral Samin bin Hassin who went down with the ship during the third reformation of Haris. Big rebellion that was, nasty time, but he put a quick end to it when he plowed his flagship into the enemy station." He lets out a chuckle as his mind remembers some distant conversation with the man, and the punchline of some joke you lack the context to understand. He seemed to have known the man.

"I remember they wanted me to join ranks at the time, but I'm just not a fleet man. Prefer fighting under the stars, not among them. Not my cup of tea. Besides I didn't want to be going through another academy at my age. just so I could sit in a chair and watch holograms chuck rocks at each other."

>Ask for additional details (write in)
>Ask about something else
>Other
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>>3121275
Can we just move on to the next thing?
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>>3121275
Well he's right about there being more war, and that it is likely someone will need to go into about as literally "hell" as one can get in real space.

I like this guy, hope he doesn't die. Would be a shame.
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>>3121275
>Other
hes sharing war stories or well post war stories, maybe we commiserate a little on fallen comrades, talk about the Gardener. other then that the red hive doesn't know peace on account of the endless war.
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>>3121275
Ask what effect he thinks Hive life-extension technology may have on the Commonwealth leadership structure.

>>3121281
I'm fine with just moving on too.
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>>3121281
We will be picking up again tomorrow so no biggie. I don't work again till Sunday so I figure I can fit in maybe another thread or two this week.
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>>3121286
Good call! We can mention the war in heaven in vague terms - or maybe even reference being an "orphan" and watching our mother die. We've hinted around that previously and it sounds like the kind of thing humans would get an emotional impact from.

>>3121275
Changing my vote to:
>Share Hive War Stories.
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>>3121275
Ask how he thinks the commonwealth would react to us giving bio improvements and cybernetics too them or well a rough guess
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>>3121287
>Ask what effect he thinks Hive life-extension technology may have on the Commonwealth leadership structure.
Supporting this. If we're going to release the secrets of our immortality serum to the Commonwealth, I want to know how they'll handle it. I suspect they would need a certain amount of preparation within their government to handle the introduction of such tech smoothly.
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>>3121286
>the red hive doesn't know peace on account of the endless war.
I also like this line of conversation.
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>>3121275
And your leaders seem to have have leaders? Like the Magnus and those around him? Humans have a lot of layers in their hierarchy.

>>3121281
We have spoken to him for 4 hours I guess.
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>>3121275
>Besides I didn't want to be going through another academy at my age. just so I could sit in a chair and watch holograms chuck rocks at each other."
>Other
“The Hive has learned much in it’s long reign- adapt or perish, there is rarely an inbetween.”
We can pick his brain later, he’s given us some important insight into why we don’t spread the news of us trying to save the Emperor. I doubt his children will appreciate being permanently backseated after waiting for the throne for so long.
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>>3121275
This may just get shut down, but I think it might actually be appropriate to hint at how young our hive truly is. We’re an ancient species to be sure and we’ve had to grow up fast, but some introspection may be a nice change. We are talking about age after all, and the perspective of a very young immortal would surely be interesting.
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>>3121296
its also a bit of a misdirection since, she doesn't know peace because shes only about a year old.

Mom was tens of millennia old emperor is a couple centuries, the man we are talking to is old enough to be our great great great great grandfather in human terms. Its a fun juxtaposition if not an outright joke.
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>>3121305
Age means little to the Hive. Hell we have a daughter who lived in the time before the Betrayal.
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>>3121304
if anyone outside the hive would understand it might be him. Sure, lets do it
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>>3121305
That could be funny. We could say something like: "the hive's mother was murdered in the ancient war at a very young age - she was only 100,000 years old."
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>>3121287
No no no, let's wait until one person accepts immortality and adoption before starting to shop it around. Even the emperor wanted to keep this whole thing a secret for now, for a good reason.
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>>3121311
Actually the number is closer to a million.
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>>3121304
>>3121310

I'm game for this.
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>>3121304
Oh god no. That raises so many implications and throws a lot of the misdirection the hive has worked on so long out the window.
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>>3121304
I find I am not totally averse to this.
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>>3121321
Yes it does. Do people care about proper decision making or planning? Nope, since impulse rather than reason is what usually guides player choice in a quest.
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>>3121304
I wouldn't be, but Its to big a risk to our other schemes. I mean he probably gets that he talking to the queen directly but we havn't volunteered that info, so for all he knows he talking with an individual speaker right now.
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>>3121275
"If the human leaders are so old, how would the humans function from more advanced technology?"

"You mean your own immortality?" He asks. "Well I suppose you're asking about the mentality of it. Immortality would give one a different impression on life than a mortal, or so I would think." He ponders the question. "I would presume you would know more than I would, given your the one with the technology. Our current social model would need to be reworked at the very least. You can't be immortal while you have heirs, the Emperor is clear evidence of that I think. Beyond that, I'd say Yogesh would have a better opinion than I would. He always was more philosophical than I am, although I must say, my own initial reaction is to hesitate." He puffs on his pipe as his mind ponders on the nature of the universe, vague philosophy class topics from many decades ago drift in his mind. "I think..." He begins. "I think there is always such a thing as too much of a good thing. And perhaps that includes life. Maybe I'd like to live longer, but forever? I suspect a day would come where it just becomes boring. No adventure left in anything. A good story needs an end, and the man who lives forever will eventually have never done only one thing. Maybe I'd like to live until then, and when it's the only thing left to do, I'd give death a shot, see how that adventure turns out?" He says, his mind drifting. You suspect his statement is not meant to be taken seriously, but his mind seems to consider it an honest take on the subject. "I suspect, of course, that most of it would be spent in war. War seems to be a constant among sentients."

"Yes." Your drone says. "It is unfortunate. You say it makes those within it stronger. It is all this hive has known. The Hive will live forever, but can still be killed. Many have died in our war, and this Hive is only recently formed in the wake of those long dead."

"Maybe gone, but not forgotten." He says suddenly. "They have you to remember them. That's good enough for us humans. Maybe one day you can tell me all about them."

Cunningham takes a long drink from his cup as your drones standing watch catch the first hint of light emerging from the horizon.

Okay, it is 4 in the morning, so I think we should call it for tonight. This thread will resume later today at 7pm eastern. I honestly didn't notice we had taken so long until the anon mentioned it. So everyone get some sleep, and we'll be back in about 15 hours.
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>>3121327
It is a calculated risk, such knowledge is highly unlikely to spread beyond the highest levels of the Admiralty, if beyond Cunningham itself.

Besides, the Union was there when the Hive was just getting started. Once anyone sees Leeland it will be obvious how fast the hive has grown, and that it was only just starting when the Union crashed on our planet.
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>>3121304
I’m against an exact age reveal, maybe we could play it off as cheeky- it’s rude to ask your mother her age. But some good old war stories might be worth bonding over.

I fear it might ruin a bit of the power and mystique trying to frame the Red Queen as young. Knowing that the super-organism you’re partnering with is months old and not millennia might be a bit of slap to the face for some people. She does have memories from her ancestors, but I guess that doesn’t really count as experience per se.
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>>3121333
That's only true if they assume Leeland was the first world the Queen had. They'll see the speed we develop anyways since we're colonizing the expanse.
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>>3121333
>unlikely
Is it above zero? Can it be used against us? If you answered yes to either then you can rightfully fuck off. You KNOW our enemy is manipulating the universe against us, why would you risk any chance of anything backfiring on us?
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>>3121332
And we didn't really learn anything there. Shit.
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>>3121333
Yep, pretty much this. Our Hive being young isn’t even all that big of a secret considering that we have access to so much ancient knowledge and our fleets our by far the most powerful in civilized space. I can’t see how knowing how young we are (or at least hinting at that) would cause a serious drop in respect for our capabilities.

>>3121332
Goodnight QD, thanks for running. See you tomorrow!
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>>3121332
well there goes a noncommittal newly formed. which is actually fine because we drop a general "Our mom was like a billion" and we "saw" "Gardener fall 70000 years ago" and enjoy the spit takes without telling the Cunningham a lie.
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>>3121332
Thanks for running QD! It's always a pleasure to participate in this quest of yours.
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>>3121335
You pretty much said everything I want to say. I 100% agree. We can talk about being a young immortal in a cheeky way without needing to expressly tell everyone we're an infant.

Like you said, they'll figure out how quickly we develop soon enough with the Expanse colonization.
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>>3121340
Looking forward to the reactions to revealing the specific age of our associates too. If we’re extra cheeky we can say we have a daughter who is about 100,000 years old which is technically true.
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>>3121339
In case that info then reaches the Ceph OQ or Void. OQ would have a good understanding of hive growth.

If we name drop the gardener there is the maybe that we were just a lesser queen that she missed in her betrayal of the hives outside of that we could be white queens child born at any time after her exodus and not necessarily a bitty baby.
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>>3121343
Well we made no progress with developing the expanse for now because QD lost his notes but it should take weeks for a small settlement to build up into sizeable outpost for the humans (I think).
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>>3121333
>knowledge is highly unlikely to spread

Well, maybe, maybe not. Security can be a real joke in this galaxy. Did you see how fast Windsor got the data from Decker's nerve-stapling session. How the speaker meeting with Valen leaked to private corporations' security.

It's possible he won't mention the contents of the conversation to anybody. But if he does there is no way it's not spreading to every faction.
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>>3121358
Ya, but thats the Union. That said I agree completely that a a leak is probable and we should act expecting one. Cunningham is a cool dude, but he's still beholden to the chain of command.

>>3121352
Do you mean the human population or our settlements? Because the embassy took days and we wasted a lot of time on growing style points vs function.

That does make me wonder, do we obfuscate further? Each human inhabited sites outpost getsa peacocked Egglayer False queen and its array of drones.

>"This is the Carmine Hive"
>"This is the Crimson Hive"
>"This is the Lightish Red Hive"
and so on
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>>3121363
Why not rebrand our Hive as the Mother Hive and play our mind games from there?
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>>3121363
I kinda thought of the fake queen egg-layers sort of like hiding in plain sight inside a giant pile of lookalike dolls; there’s a whole lot of them, we know which one is us and we’re not telling.
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>>3121370
Even with all our mind games we could just be... ourselves.

It worked for Heretic, Theseus, The Scarred Queen, and even Elizabeth (a human). We don't necessarily need to be afraid of the truth as much as this Quest loves shadowruns.

and don't claim Elizabeth just joined us because of the parasite - she was changing from the crystal on Raligha before that point and she is easily powerful enough now our standard parasite/psionic influence techniques would be laughed off. I will grant she is and always has been a weirdo among humans.
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I don't see a non-sentimental reason to share our age, except if the conversation (with anyone, not just Cunningham) comes to "why is this cock-up cascade happening now?" Of course the answer is "the White Queen died within the last year so that left the Obsidian Queen without a rival, or so she was led to believe." If pressed for more detail, we can acknowledge that we are both a plan A and a plan B, but this hive was put in a place where we can pick up the pieces left scattered by the past with the intent of finally finishing the fight. It doesn't matter if the Red Hive is young, but we are here as the executioner and a herald of the end of days. There is nowhere to retreat to, and if we fail, then this galaxy and all life in it will become void thralls.
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>>3121376
>ourselves
What faggotry are you talking about? Red Hive isn't our actual "identity," it's a convenient tool for lesser races to identify us, hell most people here forget that Hives were perfectly fine with changing their carapace for fashion purposes. Honestly "Mother" is closer to our "identity" than "Red Queen" because it's how we view ourselves.
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>>3121363
lets do that
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>>3121454
By being ourself I meant not lying about how old we are, excessively filtering through speakers, etc.
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>>3121478
Deceiving outsiders is how we operate because honesty only gets you so far before it royally fucks you over. We learned that early on and it's the reason we only really trust those within the Hive.
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>>3121454
>Red Hive isn't our actual "identity," it's a convenient tool for lesser races to identify us
This demonstrably wrong, the dream vision in the void showed us as the Red Queen.
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>>3121504
Incorrect, did you forget what the Void is and from whose view it was from? It's a composite of the mental imprint of all living creature in the universe seen from the perspective of a human. Red Queen is nothing more a label rather than an "identity" just like Pepsi and Coca-Cola are just brands for the same kind of soda. But than again I guess this is more of an argument of perspective and schematics on both our sides making it a pointless argument from both our sides.
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and having fake queens and not telling them about our age is more useful then complete transparency to people that get there mind read
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>>3120355
>Certainty Grenade
>A crude explosive designed to scatter fragments of anti-tachyonic material throughout the air, sending fragmentation in a wide radius and filling the atmosphere around the site with tachyonic insulative powder. To Void Crafters, the explosion appears like a massive collapse of quantum probability, collapsing the passageways in spacetime with which a void crafter manipulates the environment, and establishing a temporary area of quantum certainty. In addition, anyone within its radius is certain to have a very bad day.

I wonder if we can make a warhead out of this for our ships to use against the Ceph, it sounds like causing a cloud of anti-tachyonic material can fuck up the ceph pilots psionic praying something fierce.
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>>3121963
If we were going to do that why wouldn't we just put Psionic Disruptors inside of missiles?

And if we were going to put Psionic Disruptors inside of missiles why wouldn't we just put them inside of our armed and armored ships, seeing as there's no loss of efficacy?
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>>3121963
Maybe implement it into chaff mines that will disperse it in high enough volumes for space combat. And again, it's not that effective against void fuckery, but that it's to be used in high volumes. So if we find a way to spread it like our spores in space during the fight it would also greatly inhibit their fighters.
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>>3121963
You do realize how big space is right? And that material would fuck with our missile's guidance system.
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>>3121981
Anti-Void chaff/spores might be useful at point blank range, but space is really really big. At anything outside of extreme close range it would be difficult to create enough material to cover a wide area. That being said, it could still potentially be quite useful. For example, we could deploy it as “chaff” to defend our fighter swarms which will be closing to very close range anyway.
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>>3120209
I think that as soon as Theseus has the capabilities to use ours, we should exchange our FTLs with each other.
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>>3121999
I don't.
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>>3121974
Psionic Disruptor is the thing OQ and WQ used against the queens and ceph respectably right? Isn't that more akin to using a radio signal to fuck up all the other radio signals around you? The Certainty grenade seem more like putting the radio in a box that blocks radio signals.
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>>3121997
>And that material would fuck with our missile's guidance system.
Only a little, humans use guided missiles too without Psionics so i think the missile would rely more on it's own eyes and sub-thinker for guidance which doesn't seem that bad a drawback.
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>>3121392
Honestly, I’m leery of oversharing secrets with anyone- we’ve gone to great lengths to shape the perception of the Hive as this ancient, evolving, and unstoppable force. I don’t think we should spill our guts just because the Commonwealth is cool or we want to see X character’s reaction.

We’re essentially weakening our position by volunteering information we don’t need to advertise. Certainly we keep our allies mostly up to speed; however, the Union-Commonwealth situation is far from in hand. We should assume both sides are working exclusively for their factions benefit and not the formation of a joint space force alliance.
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>>3122012
I think you don't realize how gamelike the system QD uses seems to get at times. I fully expect there to be a sizable penalty for our organic missile since they are still drones.
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>>3122001
You don't want his Foldspace drive so our Hive Ships can be Heighliners just like his Server Ships are?

I think we may be able to get his FTL out of him just from sharing this Silicate research (and those further along that tree) though.
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>>3121997
Nah mate, you just get that silicon tech and make our version of human computers using it for the missile targeting system. It'll work almost exactly the same due to how powerful we could make such small computers and you don't need to worry about psionics messing it up. Easy workaround.
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>>3122002
It's more like using a radio signal to fuck up all the radio signals around you, or using radio-opaque chaff to disrupt/weaken all the radio signals around you (in the application you're talking about, against Ceph ships).

I WOULD like to see what it does if dropped as a massive bomb into an incoming Silver-Void-Thing fissure.
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>>3122035
Why would I when we have the Rip drive?
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>>3122106
Different drives open different options.

It also means you can take your predictable movements and jump a mofo who was expecting you to come a certain way.

If you want to beat the obsidian queen then having multiple drive types can be used as an advantage to fuck with her prediction game.
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>>3122017
I think you underestimate how cunning or good at simple deduction humans can be, as Kilinger has demonstrated. Right now there is enough common knowledge (common knowledge being relative, of course) of the hive to reason that our hive is a recent one. All it will take is for someone to put it together.

Besides, that does nothing to detract from the claims we have established or our ancient heritage. Through decent from our mother hive we can rightly claim that we are an extension of earlier hive civilizations, and the technology and territory they owned.
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>>3122141
By this point even if the humans found out we were relatively young, the sheer fact we can literally breed enough brainpower to out-think human civilization as they know it in under a month would probably halt any bright ideas about trying to leverage that.
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Which reminds me. Did we colonized the Gas giants or did we forgot to do that again?
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So many plotlines to deal with.

Kent and the gravetic harness, which with the ability to deflect mass projectiles is an indispensible anti-hive defense, since OQ has no directed energy weapons that we know of.
Strongarming Windsor on whether he's really given up all void shards he knows about.
Getting the Commonwealth to hand over the Mirage salvage containing 4 shards, they're kind of dragging their heels on that when we saw them collect it an entire week ago.
Doing an examination/reverse engineering of the Star Drill at Telarum.
Adopting an emperor.
The black metal concert.
Scouting pods.

We also might want to send a Rip Drive equipped battleship leading a fleet hopping towards the Ignosh homeworld that the Scavs raided last, there may be something left to investigate that wasn't a resource they harvested. Like the precursor pillar.


>Credits: ₡11,252,206

And we could afford to go on a shopping spree again to buy interesting technology and pets.
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>>3121332
As the local star crests the horizon, threading sunbeams between the broken spires of the city and glittering against the frosty glass of its skyline, the silence is cut by a sudden series of thumping booms. Artillery shells streak through the air towards the ports, and a rocket volley is returned as captured commonwealth dumb rockets are launched in rapid succession with a howling whooshing noise, sending streaking beams of lancing fire through the air and careening wildly over the city as bursts of counter-munitions fire tracer rounds into the canopy of the city's many buildings. Your titans rise from their squat positions as super-heated air plumes from their backs with small puffs of plasma fire, roaring to life with a grumbling howl that shakes the ground around them and sends the snow along their shoulders billowing up into steam as their mandibles open with the glow of plasma. Several trucks have deployed along the base of the arcology as they hoist large metal tubes in the direction of the port, firing volleys of rockets as other vehicles deploy flak turrets and artillery cannons.

Your speaker examines the collection of human volunteers. The word was let out, and those enlisted who proved willing to utilize your equipment have lined up outside the hive transport in the street. Your speaker studies their nervous minds for proper compatibility as workers bring out piles of weapons and the empty husks of carapace armors, setting them up beneath the shuttle.

"You did say we don't need armor training for this, right?" One of them says.

"No. Nerve ports are needed for heavy units, but the medium units require no prerequisites. Please find a suit of your preference and enter. The device will assist in the rest." Your speaker chirps, and begins to leave. "That is all there is to know. Simple, yes?"

The speaker quickly leaves to provide more in depth assistance to a team of drop trooper volunteers from the initial battle. While your own medical services have healed their wounds from the battle, their suits remain inoperable. Their minds make it clear that this is not considered a choice for them. You have offered a chance for them to continue fighting. Most had planned to enter the fray without a suit at all if need be. Several of them look down the street to the enlisted troops as they examine the smaller suits, while most of the others examine the suits your workers have assembled.

"These work anything like a human suit?" One of them asks. "It looks like it has standard nerve ports."

"They are designed to cooperate with human technology and biology." Your speaker chirps. "Cooperate with it in return."

cont.
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>>3122154
We colonized but we haven't reconfigured Calpamos Station which is cluttered with useless Union-only Wards right now. It's due for a streamlining. We need a Tachyonic Drill location for one.
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>>3122168
WE BACK TO BUSINESS BOIS!!
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>>3122121
They are functionally the same but the Space Folder requires Canderon.
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>>3122168
>Jolly co-operation intensifies
Oh, this is going to be good. Are these blokes all drop troopers or are they standard enlisted? I'm curious if they have any experience with exoskeletons.

>>3122155
>And we could afford to go on a shopping spree again to buy interesting technology and pets.
I'd be down for a shopping spree. Just imagine all the tech we could pull in from the open market.
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>>3122173
Guess we can always fo that during the 'mid-week' thread that QD mentioned.
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>>3122180
> Oh, this is going to be good. Are these blokes all drop troopers or are they standard enlisted?

From what i can read they seen to be both. Boy once their friends see what our tech can do they are going to be so jelly from then.
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>You have offered a chance for them to continue fighting. Most had planned to enter the fray without a suit at all if need be

>Most had planned to enter the fray without a suit at all if need be

I guess our warrior charging inspired then?
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>>3122175
Many Union technologies do. It probably does, because it was mentioned that the Space Folder creates gravity distortions, but otherwise it doesn't require Canderon as fuel itself, merely a required component.
The Watcher pillars... are they the Watcher Superluminal technology? It was mentioned that they used platforms to push off/launch from.
We gotta ask Theseus for a task force so we can capture and reverse engineer that shit in that case.
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If these things are balanced, I'd imagine that the Space Folder has better jump performance vs the Blink drive and Rip drive.
Also, we need to conduct espionage to gain the technical specifications of the Power Tap and Grav Drive when we have the chance. The Commonwealth managed to gain it through osmosis, we should be able to gain it easy enough as well.
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>>3122168
Here we go!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGoUsd-RHqU

>This but with Hive Biotechnology.
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>>3122174
>>3122180
>>3122186

Aw yeah, time to show off our amazing tech.
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>>3122209
Time to kill some scavs!
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>>3122207
Theseus has explicitly said using it risks ramming into a planet.
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I hope the Scavs don't detonate their anti-matter power cores. All they have to do is turn off the containment field...
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>>3122168
One of the troopers places his foot into the open boot, balancing himself against the carapace as it locks to his ankle. They suddenly turn to the others as one of the enlisted men begins to let out a frightened yelp as his suit folds around him, enveloping his body in bio-mechanical chitin, his arms flailing at his own spine as the armor integrates with its pilot's nervous system. Several of the drop troopers laugh.

"Guess it makes its own nerve port if you don't have one." Someone says with a chuckle. He slides himself further into the carapace and it seals around him, quickly linking into the control ports as the suit integrates with the human nervous system. The drop troopers go limp, allowing the armor to hold them upright in what feels to be a well trained handshake procedure, allowing the suit to run diagnostics and examine a baseline for neural activity. Your own suits find it unnecessary, but it is more convenient than the enlisted as they swing their arms in panic to the bemusement of their comrades.

"Wow, shit!" One of the troopers exclaims. "Feels... like an echo in here."

"Yea, it's like it already has a ghost, but it's still compatible. Usually takes weeks of nerve threading to make one, this thing's got me mirrored in seconds." The trooper flexes, its wings extending as it beats with the sound of helicopter rotors, sending debris and dust flying out around him. Another extends his combat blades, sensing the vibrations of the micro-muscles as the blade shimmers with heat.

"Feels like a second skin." One of them says.

"No, like my first skin." Another replies. "Damn armor has built-in sensors. I can feel the extra bulk like it's just part of my body. Hey, drone guy, how much to keep this thing?" You hear the rest of the drop troopers echo the sentiment.

>Agree they can keep the suits if their commanders permit
>Refuse to give the suits away
>Other
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>>3122180
>Are these blokes all drop troopers or are they standard enlisted?

Mix of both- A bunch of regulars interested enough to try out the weird spooky bug guns, and drop troopers who got shot out of their armor.
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>>3122226
They don't do surrender, and their culture seems based on figthing to prove worth.

So if we corner them we can probably issue a duel challenge. Scour our captives memory for the right hormone scent mix.
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>>3122225
Yeah, that doesn't detract from what I said. Our safe jump range for Blink drive is 5 lightyears. How long is the jump range for the spacefold?
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>>3122228

>Agree they can keep the suits if their commanders permit, For free cause friends!
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>>3122228
>Refuse to give the suits away
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>>3122226
We have Ghosts and Commonwealth operators inaide their base as well as a couple of implanted scavs whose eggs should have hatched by now. So i think unless we roll REALLY badly we are safeish.
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>>3122228
>>Other
They can use them in any joint Hive/CW military venture going forward.
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>Agree they can keep the suits if their commanders permit
Fuck it, not like they'll gain much advancement if they successfully reverse engineer our shit.
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>>3122228
>Refuse to give the suits away
The hive's gifts are only for its children.
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>>3122228
>Agree they can keep the suits if their commanders permit

Merry christmas
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>>3122232
The effective range of the blink drive is infinite and it can blink 5 times before needing refueling (we can teleport fuel though). Really range is a moot point.
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>>3122240
This.

The hive is always hiring anyway, humans seem ideal pilots for our tech for operations that require free thinking.
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>>3122228
>Agree they can keep the suits if their commanders permit
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God damn it guys are you being retarded on purpose? The amount tech they could glean from one of those suits is massive
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>>3122240
>>3122228
This
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>>3122228
>>Refuse to give the suits away

But hey when you're fighting by the hive's side you can use them.

Their bosses would so steal them for reverse engineering as soon as we weren't looking anyway.

And we can't go winking at them like 'just gotta go AWOL and work for us like Lyle Rogers' or something it's kinda public.
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>>3122243
>>3122247
>>3122234
>giving away our children
>giving them weapons to use against the Union
What the fuck?!
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>>3122228
>Refuse to give the suits away

Sorry but we can't risk sone of these troppers to be moved and put against the Union and damage our attemp in politics with then. But they would be free to use it during the campaing time.
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Slow down guys. Gotta keep some secrets
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>>3122252
These suits are still linked to us, if they so much as scratch one in an effort to reverse engineer it then we will know. Other than that their capabilities are open to be seen anyway so we really are not losing anything new here.
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>>3122207
That shit was already learned by thread 18. We have the Orphan to reverse engineer if we didn't already do that a longass time ago.
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>>3122251
>>3122247
>>3122243
>>3122234

Guys please no. They can use the suits while we are figthing scavs but not giving it to then. because they could be moved and they would take their suits against the Union frontline.
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>>3122228
>Let them keep the suits
>Do not
>Offer joint military operations in the future
>Other
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>>3122252
The playerbase is retarded nowadays.
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>>3122268
>Offer joint military operations in the future
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>Other
State we have a standing offer of employment (true, we don't need credits like at all).
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>>3122228
>Other
They may continue to use the suit in any joint operations with the hive, but any permanent trade of technology would require diplomatic agreements.

>>3122268
>Offer joint military operations in the future
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>>3122228
>Agree they can keep the suits if their commanders permit
Conditional agreement - they cannot use the suits or any technology related to the suits against any entity that is not an enemy of the Hive (aka, they must agree not to use suits against the Union or rebels, etc.)
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>>3122268
>Do not
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>>3122268
>>3122268
>>Offer joint military operations in the future
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>>3122268
>offer joint military operations in the future
>do not
I don't which anything but giving them away.
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>>3122228
Supporting this>>3122240

We can't get involved in the Union/CW war but aside from that, sure, they can use em.
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>>3122228
>Refuse to give the suits away
These are loaners but depending on comonwealths stance on custom/personal gear there may be an option to buy. kind of like car leases work.
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>>3122250
I mean we need some kind of human face to law and order peacekeeping efforts on Acheron and Deckard's Claim. They could always immigrate to the Expanse and work there, get the suit as a sign-up bonus. Nonzero chance one of them counts as an Elite.

But it's hard to make a job offer in front of their bosses.
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>>3122277
>We can't get involved in the Union/CW war
This is my main issue- If we just give them away, in a few years they might be used to kill other humans.

That's bad for our image to both sides.
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>>3122248
Yeah, but it's infinite in the sense that the accuracy depletes with distance, constantly going past the 5 lighyear limit regularly is not feasible for "quality over quantity" ships unless we want to risk throwing away a ship and all the time and material that went into it.
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>>3122268
>>Offer joint military operations in the future

>>3122252
Humans are hilariously bad at reverse engineering, it would take them years to decades to reproduce our bio-tech, even on a small scale.
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like for fucks sake this along with the whole "lmao just tell the nice man how old we real