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The day is quickly spent, and the sky of Talgo fades into a dim, almost purple haze. Anderson lays in a rather spartan bunk, one of many lining the wall of the barracks-like building built along the side of the main family compound. He looks towards the headboard and out the window where a growing noise of buzzing and cawing begins to echo over the landscape as distant, hazy looking dots begin to swarm into the sky. Strange insects, both native and invasive take to the air as the sun dips over the horizon at last, and the hoards of winged creatures that feed upon them soon follow with shrieking calls as carnivorous bat-like creatures built like avian wolves give chase to hawk sized insects in intricate dog-fights in the sky. The occasional gunfire punctuates the night as people take potshots at the airborne creatures, and your flies are forced to the ground as the sky is filled with spawning insects, flying carnivores, and hunting flak.

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It's the best time of the week again!
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>>3069393
>69.4

This day just keeps getting longer than expected.
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Now I just wanted to mention something interesting about time manipulation we just learned about. Stuff like closed timelike curves are a potential application with time manipulation. The basic idea is that spacetime can be made cyclic, returning it to it's beginning point like a classic timeloop but with some important differences. For CTC, when it resets, everything that existed in the space the CTC took place in suddenly reappears in it's original location and state even if the object is removed from the CTC (in which case it becomes duplicated). This allows the possibility of copying and pasting any object we want to, regardless of what it is, as long as a CTC encompasses it.
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fucking hell space florida sounds like a living nigthmare.
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>>3069393
>It's back
I'm so ready for this shit
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>>3069420
Seems like a fun place to visit that I'd never want to live.
Just like real life.
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>>3069439
>>3069420
As a space crab/bug it looks like a very nice place to live.
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>>3069393
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>>3069420
Makes you want to join an apocalypse cult doesn't it.
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Threadly reminder

>Raid OQ
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Board and take over a scav world ship.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>3069439
It's just missing a very expensive resort on it. Wonder if the Hive can make one there.
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>>3069443
True.

>>3069454
Makes me want to build a theme park actually.
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>>3069393
We unlocked gas giant superstructure construction this morning but we still haven't colonized the 3 hydrogen gas giants we just conquered, Callahan, Billiard, and Calpamos.

Should probably fix up Calpamos Station while we're there.
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>>3069471
We don't have the resource output to build more space cities like that.
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>>3069471
SUPPORTING THOSE GAS STATIONS
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>>3069459
At this point I'm starting to wonder if QD will ever give us a chance to do any of these things.
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>>3069471
Need to bump our econony and wait for the development in the planets we just got to ourselfs.
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>>3069477
The list used to be longer.
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>>3069486
means we are getting somewhere or they are forgetting to ad things
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>>3069476
Anon have you even read how building space cities work? We barely have the capacity to build one let alone FOUR.
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>>3069486
I don't even remember that and i'm the guy who started posting that list every thread.
Christ it's been long
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>>3069475
>>3069492
Those aren't new space cities, any more than colonizing Kaltara was building a space city.

Gas giants can now be treated just like terrestrial planets and get a Development score.
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>>3069459
>>3069494
Speaking of the list, anyone have things you think we should do in the near future to add?
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>>3069494
People barely want to build new ships. I don't trust the list anymore besides it's more a tradition that needs to be posted from time to time.
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>>3069393
Lee looks out over the balcony of the embassy, its street having been hoisted back up to the rest of the roadway from the bunker bellow, and looks at the glow of the city. It is not the street lamps or public space heaters of the typical Gemini evening, but the glow of fires: torches, bonfires, and burning vehicles. Down the street, a valen shuttle lifts off from the embassy, and a new one soon takes its place. Workers shuffle about from place to place carrying paperwork, data pads, and boxes of personal effects as they seem to pile everything into the new shuttle before a large cargo platform holding a valen diplomat is lifted into the hull and it too takes off, again replaced with a new one.

Anton exits the building to the balcony across the alley with a look of urgent concern on his face, as if looking for something, and quickly moves over to the edge of the balcony.

"Representative Lee." He says with rushed formality. "You're not evacuating?"

"Well, I don't think so." He says. "At least not quite yet."

"Well we're leaving a skeleton crew here for now." Anton replies. "The valen no longer consider it safe to remain on Gemini, and nothing worth the risk can be gained from staying here. I was actually ordered to find you and petition a formal request. I was worried you would already be gone."

"No, so far I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in the Union higher ups." Lee says. "Everyone is panicking, nobody knows what's going on, and it seems like anything outside of the capital district is cut off. It looks like where the only district in the city with reliable power right now." Lee looks back at the foreboding glow, the spires of the New Prescott skyline ominously dark and silent, with only the sounds of distant flames and the shouting of mobs, but none of the familiar noises of a bustling metropolis. "What request did you have?"

"The valen want to open an official embassy within Hive space. I'm actually being deployed with most of the employees in the embassy to the new space city you have."

"Builder's Gift?"

"That's the one." Anton replies. "I was hoping you would pass on our desire to establish a more permanent embassy within the space, but a more temporary consulate at the space city is fine for now at least."

"I'll pass it along." Lee says. "I take it you're leaving for Builder's Gift now then?" Anton nods.

cont.


Sorry about being a bit late there, I spilled my drink all over my desk mid-prep.

Also, I did not mean to get your hopes up over the midweek thread, but just as the last thread 404ed I realized that my work free day I was looking at thinking it was a good day to run a thread was actually Thanksgiving...

Fortunately, we do still have a lot of somewhat time sensitive things to do leftover from the last hiatus.
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>>3069498
The Gas Stations use the same mechanics a space sixty as far I know. Tell me where it was mentioned otherwise.
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>>3069499
How about exploring Tadega for any sign of that errant Void shard the Union may or may not be about to hand over to us? We just started espionaging that world for that reason.
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>>3069499
First that comes to mind i call back our fleet and awake the reserves we have in storage in Leeland.

Also build a planetary shield over Darwin.Oh and collect the Ceph wreckage on Gemmini's Orbit.
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>>3069505
Let's offer these slow ass turtles open trade using our station.
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>>3069499
a reminder of what we learned in the mindscape and how we should completely stop research in the void cannon
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>"The valen want to open an official embassy within Hive space. I'm actually being deployed with most of the employees in the embassy to the new space city you have."

Yay! When the Valen's are so scared and impressed that they want to go to your side. I really like the merchant slugs.
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>>3069521
We aren't researching though.
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>>3069505
Valen don't even have a formal centralized government, they're basically anarcho-capitalists, what does 'embassy' even really mean in their context?

Not that it matters since it just gets them closer to the mind reading relays and sleeper agent creating Resorts.
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>>3069505
Anyone remember our answer to the valen's Tannhauser mining deal? Cause now is a perfectly cheeky time to tell their representative.
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>>3069505
"Personally, I'd advise you do the same." He says. "Gemini hasn't had unrest like this since the Colony Wars. My employers are not convinced the local government will be able to maintain control. The valen inside sorta drew straws, everyone called in all their favors at once, and the one with the most outstanding debt remaining is staying behind. Everyone else is leaving."

"I'll be sure to pass on that vote of confidence too." Lee says.

Anton quickly rushes back into the embassy, turning before the doors close behind him.

"I'll see you at Builder's Gift then!" He says, shouting over the engines of the shuttle as its thrusters roar to life and it drifts into the air above before yet another arrives for the next batch of cargo, this time quickly filling with human and ceph employees.

The human may have a point. Your ships in orbit can see the fires bellow, and the riots only seem to be spreading, even with the local PDF being deployed in full force, the violence is only escalating.

>Evacuate your embassy's non-hive residents.
>Maintain operation as normal
>Other
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>>3069523
Jabba the Hutt knows who to side with here.
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>>3069526
its a reminder so people dont forget and so new anons in this quest dont suddenly vote to continue the research i dont want to risk it
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>>3069517

I take we don't need to be slow with the Valen and they would appreciate want to make a secure alliance/business relation with the Hive.

Specialy after routing what should be the biggest void cutter raid they have seen. I always forget how Valen's think that wars in bigger numbers are just scary.

Or was that a costume from old time? I forget.
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should we assist the locals in stopping this crazy riot?
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal

This is a cheap show of support for us to do to back the union council no real risk for us and will reassure them that we will not stab them in a heartbeat like the whales
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>>3069530
>Evacuate your embassy's non-hive residents.
It would take just one nuke to kill our Lee. I'd rather not risk it.
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>>3069530
Oh good there's one left. We can use the one remaining Valen as the neutral mediator / living lie detector if we demand an in-person assurance from Windsor that they are handing over all artifacts and holding no void shards back.

Since we might not want to too-openly advertise our own lie detecting ability.

>>3069530
>>Maintain operation as normal
Lee can survive Agitation 100% ...right?
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>>3069527
A building through which the most powerful clans of Valen space can organize business endeavors. It's honestly less an embassy, and more like a sales rep office where they can keep their manipulator appendage on the pulse of the hive's political and economic situation, maintain proper communications, and more easily negotiate treaties.

In practice, it is also a way for the big wigs of Valen space to essentially monopolize trade into outside space, forcing other merchants to go through them if they want to do business.
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>>3069530
>Evacuate your embassy's non-hive residents.
>Other: "Send invites to Builder's Gift for Key politicans of the green party and Rhino also those in favor of Xeno rights" Do this so they have a excuse to be out of planet.
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>>3069530
>Evacuate your embassy's non-hive residents.
If Lee's friends are going to be loafing around, at least lets have them loaf somewhere safe.

Gettem to builders gift!

Lee, rest his soul, is going to have to stay for diplomatic reasons though
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>>3069552
Eh smart slugs. We will have a great and profitable partneship
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal

Our defenses should be able to handle the unrest without difficulty, but more importantly an evacuation would be bad PR and would make us appear frightened.
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>>3069530
>Evacuate your embassy's non-hive residents.
The situation is deteriorating on Gemini, best to get them out of there to Builder's Gift, and it's probably for the best, with Gemini under further possible threat of WMD.
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>>3069499
We have yet to actually review the top secret documents Morgan leaked to us.
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>>3069553
support
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>>3069542
No,no a foreing power doing this stuff can be easily turned as a invasion of our part.

Also i think we should stay just to keep things normal but Lee needs to be Moved to builders gift. But the Hive doesn't need a official representetive maybe we can finnaly have a use for Lang.
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal

We don't really have that many non-hive residents and i trust that the Hive can deal with simple riots.
Does the Union Goverment requires some assistance?
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>>3069555
Well Zippo can finally get those 3 new hearts they asked for on the trip over on some complimentary in-flight surgery. We've been postponing that operation for 5 days now.
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>>3069530
>>Maintain operation as normal
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>>3069574
Until the situation calms down, yes, I think we could indeed use Lang...after a a psychic interview.
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>>3069561
>>3069562
>>3069551


GUYS!! One s8ngle embassy can't handle mob attacks or even people positioning outside the Hive and taking potshots at everyone. If the firce can't handle thing we can at least evacuate the no dronea perssonel which is basicaly, Lee, Zippo, Sushi and maybe Lang, Lee's assistant.
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>>3069569
>We have yet to actually review the top secret documents Morgan leaked to us
Oh man i completely forgot about that.
QD can you give us a brief description of what secret documents Morgan gave us?
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>>3069555
support with what ever wins keep friends safe
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>>3069530
>Evacuate your embassy's non-hive residents.
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>>3069542
The riots are the perfect thing to jam up Union counter-intelligence operations, which are a threat to the hive's espionage activity, so no.

If anything we want to encourage them to continue to keep the spooks' plate full.

The riots are the perfect cover for some Recruitment actions or more Smash and Grabs.
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>>3069587
I doubt that very much unless it ends up being a cover for a spec op's raid by fucking the goverment.
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal
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>>3069578
Mobs are still a think and our drones are good but 100000+ humans against a handfull of drones are bad odds.

At least move then out incase shit hits the fan we don't lose Lee or anyone we worked on Such as the business guy wanting to build a franchise in our space.
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>>3069505
About those Valen...the more I think about the position they're in and their past actions, the more concerned I get that they've been dealing with the Void directly.

Think about it, every Ceph that leaves their homeworld in the Hall of Souls does so by using their transport system. There isn't any way the Valen could have set up a network like that without directly negotiating with whatever equivalent of a government the Ceph have. And when they decided to settle the expanse, out of all the planets they could chose to settle they chose the only single one existing that the Skyl lived on before they broke from the Void.

And if those aren't enough coincidences to make you think, consider that when the Union funded an experiment on the Void shards to draw the Void itself into reality, they did so in the very heart of Valen space. The fact that the Valen nominally turn a blind eye to the goings on in Nowhere is hardly a believable cover. This was a major scientific operation by the one other sovereign power the banking clans do business with. They had to have, at the very least, been aware of what the Union was doing in that system, they're mind readers of all things.

Maybe individually any one of these events could be explained as just another massive coincidence, but with all of them together there's an obvious pattern forming here. The Valen are clearly more involved with the Void gods than we've been assuming up until now. The faster we get on to figuring out just how involved they are, the sooner we can stop this from biting us in the ass.
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal
I'll support building increased security like having the grounds guarded by close range colossi and heavy warriors.
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>>3069605
Do we have a Shield Dome on our embassy?
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>>3069601
What if they do that? I mean wouldn't be safer if Lee was out of planet and safe in Builder's gift?

Also i just realize that everyone and their mother is moving to Builder's gift. Making it a very hot target for worst aunt.
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>>3069530
>>Maintain operation as normal
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>>3069614
Leabing is too much of a bullshit, at the moment. However we can renforce shit and worse case clone them?
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>>3069587
We can easily land more drones if things get out of hand. I (think?) our embassy has shielding too.

Even if it doesn't have shields, a combination of siren-equipped drones, psionic speakers, and the normal garrison should easily be able to contain the unrest. In a worst case scenario we can deploy drop-pods - although that is probably overkill.

>>3069569
>>3069591
Agreed, we should read the documents.
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>>3069607
>they did so in the very heart of Valen space.
Wrong. Tenebris is on the border between union-valen space though technically owned by the valen.
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>>3069612
I doubt we habe that we only have our creep, some smart mines and our hardligth defense system. Oh and some hidden medical facilities under the hive.
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>>3069614
We should call Heretic to help with defense of Builder's Gift.
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>>3069626
We should have one dammit. That makes us infantry proof.
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Popping in to state:
This Ceph attack is bigger than most. It might have been triggered by our presence, but it's possible it wasn't.
We may want to point out we know the humans are holding out on us regarding artifacts.
But we should definitely ask/figure out why they think the Ceph attacked in such force, and what Ceph stuff they may have (aside from void shards) that could attract such attention.
tl;dr: I don't think the Ceph did this randomly, and I'm not certain it was all our fault. We need to figure out what, if anything, the humans may have that ticked off the Ceph.
It could be useful for neutralizing their god.
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>>3069605
We can always evacuate if the rioters are going to break through the defences of the embassy (though it seems unlikely) and they don't seem to have an air force so it still seems safe.
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>>3069587
We don't need to defend the embassy if the capital district itself is successfully locked down. The best security barrier is further out than the hive's individual embassy.

I mean we may want to have some hive warriors as 'private security contractors' or something to guard that barrier...
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>>3069622
And that will make people thing that we are at war with the Union.

>>3069621
I guess we could reinforce everything. Fortunantly we can cooperate with the Valen in the Embassy i still would rather that at least Lee and the others evacuated as a excuse to do a diplomatic gathering in builder's gift.
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>>3069628
Heretic is in full nanny mode with the skyl. We could ask Theseus to bring in a server ship as an "ambassador" to the new galactic meeting place.
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>>3069530
>Other
Can we beef up security? Maybe deploy some titans in the courtyard as a show of force?

>>3069614
I’m worried about builder’s gift too. It could easily become a very tempting target and it had been well publicized. We need to deploy a major defense force to the system.
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>>3069623
Doesn't look like it's near any borders on the map.
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>>3069649
Huh I guess I remembered wrong.
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>>3069640
How about some hybrids in medium carapace?
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>>3069644
Hold on now, let's think about this before causing a server ship that the human public thinks only exists to kill humans to pop up over the human capital.
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>>3069623
It's not at all on the border. Not that space borders mean much.

It's just mostly undesirable territory where refuse washes up.
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>>3069658
I meant asking Theseus to show up at the Builder's Gift now that the Valen are moving there.
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>>3069672
Ah, my apologies then.
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>>3069607
Well duh, we know that there secertive as hell and the one clam incharge of there gate system has avoided sending any whale to meet with us , they probably know more about the void and have been keeping it a secret from rest of there society
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>>3069607
Well no. All the Valen would have to do is share the address of one of their hypergates with a Ceph criminal, a heretic and betrayer, part of the resistance who smuggles out those who are slated for extermination.

It is possible for traitors to continue to use void cutters without authorization, since Coil stole a quartet of crystals and piloted them for Lyle. So one of them just smuggled a micro hypergate back to the homeworld on a void cutter.

Of course the odds are that the masters actually know about most of the Ceph criminal underworld and use them as controlled opposition, but there's no reason for the Valen to realize that.
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>>3069640
>>3069639
You guys are speaking as if the rioters wouldn't be able to get some gear and cause a rebellion...wait....maybe we can use our Hive to keep that group way from us.

Anyway now that i think about it we are putting practicaly all our eggs in a single basket (Builder's Gift) What if the Ceph attack was to either destriy the Hive ship and have us move our fleet away and have every ally we have focus in one single place...
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>>3069636
Not just a bigger attack but also a attack on the human capital. Which is a novalty since Ceph only attacked freigthers or merchant ships until today.
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>>3069682
>they probably know more about the void and have been keeping it a secret from rest of there society
The info they have is public knowledge. Where the humans see "trees" in the Void the Valen see "currents". They seem to know about the Hall of Souls to some degree and actively avoid or fear it. Like they programmed to avoid the pitfalls of the Void.
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>>3069688
Or care. As long as the money keeps rolling in what motivation would the Valen have to care if they're supplying a controlled opposition?
>>3069691
The human ground forces don't have the gear to easily penetrate our embassy if we actually reinforce the place. I highly doubt the rioters will be disposed to attack after the first few hundred become a charred corpse.
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>>3069700
Every sentence you just said is missing a [citation needed].
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>>3069706
Fair point. And i gope that the humans won't be easily iverrun and have their military gear stolen by rioters.

Besides not like the common thug knows how to use a tank.
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>>3069710
I think he's confusing the tachyons in realspace with the void metaspace
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>>3069706
Since when did we decide we needed the Valen? Honestly, we should have begun adopting them a long time ago.

I for one support complete freedom from all Valen influence. We are the movers. We are the shakers.

Shellfish dont belong in our pond.
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>>3069710
Well I guess it is mostly baseless assertion but the story about dead pulling that Valen into the underworld screams of meddling in their genetic or Void stuff.
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>>3069530
>Maintain operation as normal
Lee watches as the last shuttle quickly departs, and returns back into the building as Sushi rushes about with a pile of bags and various band paraphernalia while Zippo rushes behind like a bunch of excited puppies.

"I think the spaceports are closed." Lee says.

"But there are still some charter flights." He says back.

"Can you afford that? I'm betting they're going to be price gouging right now." Lee says. "Tell you what, you really want to go that bad, I'm sure there's a hive ship heading in that direction already, I can get you on a shuttle." Sushi jiggles with excitement, his voice offering no hint of it as the speaker drones on.

"Thank you." He says blandly. "Are you not going?"

"No, or at least not unless things get worse here. If the Capital district starts to fall apart, then maybe I'll be sent away but for now I still have work to do. You guys go have fun though."

"We will bring you gifts, then." He says.

"Please don't, I can get just about anything they are going to be selling there for free anyways." Lee replies.

"We won't!" Zippo squeaks as they march in tight circles around Lee. The four of them all rush off down the hall as Lee sighs and looks back to a wall that projects an image of a local news feed of several channels, or what few are still broadcasting.

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>>3069591
Much of it are things that you knew already but he would have now way of knowing you know. I'll have a more detailed write up of the more useful stuff next thread, since right now everyone seems to be in a panic over the recent attacks and the defacto rebellion growing in the city.
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>>3069700
No the only info that is public knowledge among them is just basic psi craft and how to use it given that is a natural ability they all have

There been no indication that the whale public at large have deep understanding of the deeper mysteries of the void or how powerful psi can be given most seem to be distracted by there never ending game of blackmail ratrace

That story we heard was a hella old legend that may be considered by the public the same way we use the old santa myth

Now if there any whales with deep knowledge avout the void it would be the ones in that guild that controls and run the gate network and given there tendency for being sneaky it would be easy for them to keep info about the void and all its dangers away form the run of the mill whale public
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>>3069725
You are fighting a losing battle. According to QD Valen the could have been our greatest allies if we chose to land on Aral.
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>>3069725
I don't think we have. Anons just seem believe they're so paranoid we'd never be able to do anything.
>>3069741
(((Greatest ally))) The valen are behind the bugs and are just their puppetmasters that finally decided to invade the Union!
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>>3069740
To the lesser races the understanding of the Void is no different than mysticism and we do know there are more races out there that the White Queen meddled with other than the Humans and Phantoms.
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>the defacto rebellion growing in the city.

Oh...so there is a rebellion? Wonder if they blame us and the government for all this shit. Probably both now that i think about it.
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>>3069750
That is what happens when Agitation maxes out. Revolt.

Quick, Taidarens, grab everything and everyone you can while all the cameras are smashed.
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>>3069725
Amen to that, from what we've seen the only benefits in human-Valen interactions go in one direction. Valen only invest in anything if they plan on exploiting somebody.

>>3069741
Yeah, and Theseus could have been our most hated enemy. But things didn't turn out that way, did they?
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>>3069746
We don't know anything about the Valen and I feel like Anons have really dropped the ball in terms of reaching out to potential allies. We could help them learn about their psionic abilities instead of scaring them shitless.

There's been a ton of speculation about the Valen in this thread, but because we know so little about them (we somehow haven't even managed to parasite any yet!), we shouldn't form any kind of serious conclusion about them at this time.

Agreed that we can and should try to make them allies, though. Bringing groups together has been a strength of the Queen.
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>>3069757
i think there is a difference between a Rebellion and Riotters or Looters doing stuff.
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>>3069759
greatest ally doesn't necessarily mean not controlled.
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>>3069759
Nah, protecting races under our aegis of protection is the strength of the Queen. The Valen never get involved with anybody if they can't find their pound of flesh to get out of the deal. We don't need friends like that.
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>>3069757
I'm now noticing what happens at maximum Agitation isn't quite spelled out explicitly in the pastebin.

https://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/142856526373
>Once Agitation reaches 100, the populace will enter open revolt and a grassroots populist revolution will attempt to secede from the current governing power. Until then, different categories of Agitation result in various penalties that effect both the ruling faction and to a lesser extent anyone performing espionage.
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>>3069750
We really should do a interview to improve our public perception.
>>3069758
If we did business with them we'd end up in control very quickly. Humans are terrible at uniting at a common cause, Valen are better, and we are the best.
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>>3069759
We can try to find a down on his/her luck Valen and offer him/her the same deal as with Anderson. I would like to see a Valen minister of trade for the Hive.
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>>3069738
I wonder if the Union government would take us up on an offer to help mollify the situation.

Alternatively.. >>3069770
>grassroots populist revolution
Don't we have a buddy on Talgo who might be able to use this? And I don't mean Anderson.

Regardless: I think Killinger might use this unrest as a pretext to become "king."
This would not be helpful to us, I think - we should try to shut that down. Whether that's brainfucking the populace into calming down, or controlling/influencing the opposition and preventing Killinger from going tyrant on us.
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>>3069768
>The Valen never get involved with anybody if they can't find their pound of flesh to get out of the deal. We don't need friends like that.
That's the thing, though, we only really know about the Valen through how the humans see them. Until we have at least managed to scan at least ONE Valen it is incredibly premature for us to conclude that any kind of relationship with them will require a sacrifice of a "pound of flesh" (or whatever that means to the Hive).

We don't have enough information to decide a relationship isn't worthwhile.
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>>3069781
I think killinger has long stopped giving a shit about the king bill and now just wants the bleeding of the union to stop
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>>3069777
We have the cuckfish for that! It’s a little fucked that the first whale we managed to do business with lost his job for doing exactly what his boss did.
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>>3069768
You retarded if you think like this. The Valen society is entirely built upon mutual benefit and are most non aggressive out of all the races. Also their perspective on debt would be good to adopt to some degree still it would go a long way to fix the problem the past Hives have had. A lot more than the death world bullshit people have been pushing.
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>>3069777
That could be interesting.

I think our best bet for implantation at this time is probably the Valen singer for the Metal Band. With all the psionic signals going on a parasite may actually be necessary for the Valen to maintain their focus during the performance - and their already scheduled time aboard our station would make it easy to make a secretive "offer"
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>>3069770
So the capital will try to secede from the Union? That would be interesting. By the way, i am trying to find how many trade routes are allowed for each planet/space city but there doesn't seem to be any information about that in the pastebin section about trade. Am i just not seeing it?
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>>3069781
This rebellion is entirely localized to the planet Gemini.

President Killinger is simply not going to happen, a Void puppet will take the throne Conrad was convinced would be rightfully his, if anything.

>>3069797
He may have rolled poorly on his smuggle-self-to-safety roll and is sleeping with the fishes now.
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>>3069808
>many trade routes are allowed
The space cities pastebin lists those numbers.

Planets are a mystery.
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>>3069799
They're also not very nice, and aren't afraid to bring the full might of their slimy business lawyer bullshit to bear on some poor fuck to make money. They can't really bleed us but they can fuck our expanse populations, they're good at fucking humans.
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>>3069741
You uh, got a quote for that? Was that a new answer from the Askme?
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>>3069813
>they're good at fucking humans.
To be fair, we're pretty good at fucking humans over too (at least from the human perspective).

The Valen can be slimy, but so can we. We haven't really engaged in diplomacy so far, but that certainly doesn't mean we should at least attempt some serious friendly outreach before they give up on becoming friends with the Hive altogether.
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>>3069774
I was wondering if making more trade companies like FormOther to give people employment and a more peaceful connection with the Hive would help the Hive's public image.
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>>3069817
Hes a whale apologist making up bull to cover up the fact the whales seem to religously worship acting like wallstreet executives and all the horrendus behaviour that ensure as we saw from andersons memorys as a whale shadowrunner and what they been doing on talgo as told by lee families
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>>3069799
Only if you define 'mutual benefit' very loosely. Have you forgotten how fantastically cruel the Valen are to everyone who finds themselves in debt to them? We've seen about two Valen characters in this quest, and already we've seen countless examples of mind rape, cucking, and no end of slavery enforced out of sheer spite. Just because they're empathetic does not, by any measure of the word, make them kind or benevolent. If anything in a hyper competitive environment, it makes them the opposite.
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>>3069826
I concur, anon. Still, in real terms it's only been a few days since we had our official meeting with the Valen and scared them shitless. The opportunity isn't lost yet.

>>3069813
Well I have to agree with anon upthread that most of our perception is shaped by the humans' view of the Valen. Valen aren't very nice to humans, but neither have we been.

I think that it would be a rather different relationship with us. We would also be immune to their business-lawyering and could extend that protection to any citizens.
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>>3069813
You do realize we can use that stuff to release a debt policy to get more people into the Hive and the Valen are great managers.
>>3069817
I don't think he said it on ask but he did say they could have been our greatest allies which makes sense especially how profitable such an alliance would be. It be the Gate all over again for them.
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>>3069826
Before we act nice we need to exploit their fear as much as possible before smoothing it over and becoming BFFs/best frenemies forever.

We can't miss the opportunity to extract hypergate tech from them.

We could have their 'Queen' equivalent, the highest guy in the Guild of Transportation, meet with a Fake Queen drone, or something, and give him visions of profits turning into red ink due to Tachyonic Drill price competition if we don't get what we want.

Then we can smooth it over with immortality and adoption.
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>>3069812
Thanks for the information. I am curious about the planets since the Union capital of Gemini was revealed to have only three trade routes which seems a rather small number.
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>>3069817
I remember that too, he was talking about how the planet choice on thread 1 changed what neighbor we had to start out with, we ended up with Theseus but we could have landed next to the Commonwealth or Valen irrc. I don't have a source for this.

>>3069826
Can't really argue with anything in your post, except to say that I'm concerned the Valen will take a less than nurturing stance towards the humans under our care if we let them. A few threads ago Lee's family was telling Anderson about how the Valen were strangling local business and aiming for a monopoly on the planet.

I'm all for giving them an office on builders gift, this is all just something to keep in mind.
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>>3069839
You do realize every nation has done awful stuff. The Greens are no saints either since they're actively fucking over the Union. Killinger and Jack are trying to save Union but doing more damage in the process. The Commonwealth is full of backstabbers.
Every nation will go to shit if we don't control it.
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>>3069833
>>3069817

That Anon is definitely not making it up, I remember the quote from QD too although I'm not sure where it is. It was something like how the Valen could have been amazing allies and Theseus could have become a terrible foe if we had made decisions in the quest different way.

Theseus and how everyone sees him (as a terrifying killbot), is exactly why we should investigate situations themselves before deciding diplomacy is pointless.

>>3069841
>The opportunity isn't lost yet.
I agree, but the window of opportunity is likely closing. We should try to make some friendly overtures at least. Hopefully once we implant one of them we can figure out what makes them tick and what they would like more easily.

>>3069850
Unless the fear makes them just shut down and stop all diplomacy with the Hive. We're pushing them pretty close to the breaking point and if they consider the Hive a lost cause it could be bad.
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>>3069860
Strictly speaking, any of those stories from Talgo farmers may have been false flag operations to stoke anti-xeno sentiment.
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>>3069865
i guess we could always parasite the Valen in the Embassy. According to Anton he us ine of the lowest ranking Valen and being given something to stop poisoning and heal him seems migthy usefull.
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>>3069865
>>3069833
>>3069817
IIRC, it was a general "What-if" scenario if we have had landed on Aral. In the same answer, he also said that we would have been allies with the Union against Theseus if we had taken their word for it and never bothered talking to him.
I can't dig it out now since I'm at work atm but I do have a word file of all the ask.fm posts. I'll see if I can put it up when I get back to my PC.
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>>3069738
The shuttle rocks from side to side, the soldiers within swaying instinctively as they ready their gear. A holographic map projected into the air in the middle of the cargo bay shows the surface of Argos is a simplified layout as Lord General Cunningham examines it with careful eyes, studying every inch of the map as it updates each minute with new information from the front. His own dropsuit is bulky, with the addition of a large backpack shaped module where his suit holds a miniaturized comm unit. As a result, it is slightly less armed than a typical dropsuit, and is missing the typically popular missile pods to make space for the extra bulk and weight. He is kneeled down as a technician performs some final adjustments on his leg, his arm propped up on a sheathed powered sword in lieu of his cane to help stabilize him as the shuttle continues to shake.

"Ten minutes." The radio on the walls buzzes the words loudly. Cunningham clicks a button on the map, and it zooms in, showing the shuttle and the formation of aircraft surrounding it. He clicks another button, and the visual shifts to thermal imaging, showing a heat map of the ground below. It is dark, and colt, but scattered throughout you see flashes of lights, sudden, momentary bursts of heat radiating out from what look like comm towers.

"They're running on radio silence. They know you can crack their frequencies." He says. Your drone chitters with pride as it squats on the other side of the map display. They are right to be concerned.

The heat signatures quickly rush off over the horizon, signaling the defenders at your destination of your approach.

"Once we start the attack, my team inserted within the city will move to the next stage of the operation and detonate the charges they've planted. Hopefully they've been able to find some important facilities to take out. After that, they move in on the enemy command post and prevent their evacuation." Cunningham looks up to your drone. "Personally, I think I'd like a word or two with whoever's in charge of this invasion. I take it you'd like a crack at them as well."

"We do not need words." Your speaker replies with a chittering hiss. Cunningham chuckles.

"Of course with what we've seen already, their commander will likely be quite the combatant."

"Five minutes"

"The Hive will be deploying an appropriate force."

cont.
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>>3069865
That would make no sense from either a business or a self preservation perspective. Fear would at worst make some of them keep physical distance from drones. But walking away from all dealings would just mean we could deliver on the threat of economic devastation.

They have no choice but to deal, or they'll lose. There is a clear path to profit, doing what the hive says, so obviously not a lost cause by any means.
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>>3069885
Quite. https://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/136301544997
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>>3069886
YAY!! Commonwealth Buddies!!
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>>3069887
Yup the Rip drive is quite literally a ship mounted Hypergate. There's no way they'll back out of any deal if we offer that.
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>>3069887
The Hive has also proved to be very efficient against a large Ceph attack. Something that the Union showed with their fleet in orbit to be unable to handle.
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>>3069886
So, wonder if this is a Matriarch or a Matron the CW is attempting to capture. Should be interesting to see the humans fighting one of the leadership at least.
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>>3069912
I wonder if we can actually talk her into surrendering.
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>>3069924
oh yeah that turned out so well last time.
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>>3069886
"I'd expect nothing less." He replies. "Your air support is greatly needed, our own has suffered extensive losses. A first wave drop will also have a low survival rate. Appart from my personal guard, who have the unenviable task of following me everywhere, my forces will hang back until your drones take out the city's perimeter guns. Me and my personal forces will land here, at the port, and secure the railyard as a beachhead so that the cargo trains can bring in the reinforcements and heavy equipment. After that we regroup, and push in through the main thoroughfare to the spaceport where they seem to have their HQ, or what we think looks like their HQ. It's largely formed from a deployed cruiser sized vessel that landed at the spaceport. My commandos are ordered to infiltrate it and prevent it from taking off it if is able to do so."

"Thirty seconds."

"Any last moment changes you recommend?" Cunningham asks.

>Approve of the plan
>Ask about some detail of the plan
>Recommend a change
>Other
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>>3069924
Maybe...

The Scavs generally have xenophobia that would make the 40k look tame in comparison, but if we claim to be old ones or agents of the old ones, we might have a chance.
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>>3069924
They literely don't have the word for that in their vocabulary. Only way to grab the leader is by incapacitating it and capture it by force.
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>>3069931
We never tried.
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>>3069932
>Approve of the plan
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>>3069937
We have the power telepathy. We'll make a word for them.
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>>3069932
>Recommend a change
Offer to deploy a boarding fleet in the airspace above the port to capture the ship if it attempts to take off.
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>>3069932
>>Recommend a change
Offer to deploy hive commando/special operations units to keep the cruiser from taking off. It's a great chance to finally utilize our chimeras.
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>>3069932
>Ask about some detail of the plan

>Other:"Any chance of...human prisioners being found in the complex? You did mentioned they liked to use people as shields to make your troops doubt attacking."

Also did i hear it right there is a landed Scav cruiser here?!
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>>3069944
We’ve literally tried exactly that. Her brain simply didn’t have any analogous concept to equate the word to. For the scavs, to fall in battle is defeat; no ifs or but’s about it.
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>>3069932
Can we support the commandos operation? Sending specialist drones of our own for example.
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>>3069946
Supporting.
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>>3069946
i think the ship is landed and not in orbit.
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>>3069932

Backing us providing support to the commando operation.
>>3069948
>>3069954
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>>3069953
Man they are worst then the Klingons
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You know this puts us at a bit of a problem. If the commonwealth captures the cruiser we either have to distance ourselves from the reverse engineering effort made by the humans, demand the ship for ourselves or break our word about not involving ourselves in the human war.
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>>3069962
If anything from what we know about the Broodmother/Matron they are fucking huge maybe the reason the cruiser is landed is because she is actually aboard it.
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>>3069958
I said ‘if’. There is no garuntee an infiltration while it’s docked will succeed.
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>>3069932
Wow we're finally back to Namek.

We've been fighting in the Tiberion system so long but it isn't in the pastebin yet. >>1235387

Uh, long ago we got the option to 'aid Elvanine', but it wasn't described as under attack by Scavs. It is being attacked, right?
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>>3069966
I mean...we could always i dunno share tech and info. We are doing that here already by sharing what we learn about the scavs and their techies are probably already trying to reverse some of the blaster techs.

Also we need to prevent the ship self destruct. Because scavs seem to love to deny us our beautifull battle loot.
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>>3069966
>>3069969
I just had a thought, if we're actually able to capture the scav ship intact we might be able to use it as an infection vector for the worldship at Old One's Promise. They'd probably let the cruiser dock with the worldship especially if they thought a Matron was onboard.
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>>3069975
And then we could invade it. Or possibly destroy/infiltrate the worldship with our human buddies.
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>>3069973
I have no problem sharing tech with the CW. They are very slow at reverse engineering anyway and giving small slivers of technology may allow us to extend our influence over them. If we want them to build the psi cannon for us it may even be necessary.
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>>3069975
That is a good idea. We could parasite a bunch of Scavengers and have them infiltrate the Worldship while the Matron talks about some great threat or something like that.
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>>3069975
A plausible plan. Even if the matron gets killed for failing the crew would probably be absorbed by other matrons or even the matriarch.
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>>3069987
Giving them tech would more or less mean we are overtly picking them over the Union.
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>>3069975
Hot damn. Time to ready the psionic spores and hive creep.
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We need more designs with the Ovipositor.
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>>3070003
No it would be equalizing them with the union since we have started a joint research program with the union and anons forgot about how that would effectbour dealimgs with the commonwealth
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>>3069973
We should share at least some of what we learned from the captured matriarch. Also it was mentioned that having a technology and mass producing it are two very different things for the humans so even if they get scavenger technology it is doubtful they could use relatively soon.
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>>3069932
DEPLOY THE TITAN
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>>3070018
Incorrect. We never intended on giving them combat so you're full of shit.
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>>3070003
Were already planning on effectively leaking some of our tech to the union through the sale of things like our cybernetic augs and hardlight entertainment. I’m sure theyd be willing to look the other way over a few pieces of tech that were captured within the CW borders.
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>>3069975
We will need a ship intact to reverse engineer the antimatter reactor that's probably onboard and its flicker drive.

We can reverse engineer the ship, or we can send it back as a spy, we can't easily do both.

But we probably shouldn't use this thing as a spy. Because we want no witnesses, no data, absolute silence coming back from human space. We want these fleets lost with no survivors, and a big black hole where intelligence about what happened should be.

There are away teams we can parasite to infiltrate the world-ship. They're more suited to it than this cruiser vessel.
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>>3069986
>>3069989
>>3069991
>>3070004

If we want to capture the Scav ship intact it's all the more important that we send out own special forces with the Commonwealth to make sure the plan doesn't get screwed up.
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>>3070026
What if we parasite the Scavenger scientist and engineers?
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>>3069932
>>Recommend a change
The hive will lead the infiltration of the cruiser. There must be no chance of Scavs escaping.

Of course also there should be no chance of its self destruct.
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>>3070029
Also we alone possess the knowledge of how to pilot it, extracted from Scav brains.

So we can safely capture it and pilot it back to Leeland, it's fair payment for assistance really. We just gotta tell them we're the ones piloting it after we capture it.
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>>3070026
We could reverse engineer the ship first, and then later use it for infiltration purposes. We used the same tactic successfully years ago with the wreckage of the Clarke (at the start of the campaign).
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>>3070020
>>3070018
True

>>3070003
We are not giving then tech. This tech is just scavenger tech not ours.
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>>3070018
We aren't giving shit to the Union either. 'Joint research' means a skunkworks where we accelerate whatever ideas they bring to the table.

We don't give them access to new things. They give us access to new things.
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>>3070018
Why can't we offer the same thing to the Commonwealth ?
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>>3070066
It wrong not true and we've already reverse engineered Scavenger tech unless you want to give it to the Union too.
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So what you guys suggest, beside a speaker, to go with the commandos? Are we sending Flies too (although i would rather not do that)
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>>3070020
I agree we should share what we learned. The knowledge that the Scavs have destroyed multiple civilizations before them and information about the true size of the Scav fleet will make the CW realize how utterly fucked they would be without the Hive, and will hopefully also scare them enough they back off their war with the Union to conserve forces.
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>>3070090
No you silly drone. What i'm saying is that we can research the tech together but it wouldn't be us giving it to then it's a tech of a ship on their planet. If anything they are the ones sharing with us we are just acellerating their research time not giving the ready tech to then.
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>>3070090
We haven't reverse engineered their FTL drives anon. Who knows what other goodies and tech we could find on a cruiser class vessel?
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>>3070074
No doubt but we already annoced it to the public by having elizabeth send that open message to mentat that we were opening a joint research program and every spy agency would have sent it back to there hq to think on what the fuck are we plotting


While the officals would know something is up, all the public knows is that we have offically opened a research program
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>>3070099
That'll fly real well when Union troops start getting killed by blasters.
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>>3070091
I'd probably vote for sending Chimeras or Hybrids, along with Ghost beetles and other special operations drones.

I agree I'd rather not use flies either if we can help it, but it may be necessary since the capture of the ship is so important.
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>>3070107
The commonwealth would have gotten their hands on blaster tech no matter what we did and you know that.
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Lets joint research the FTL with the Commonwealth and split the rest of the loot.
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>>3070099
Teaching how to reverse engineer the drive the will hand them victory on a platter. It's seriously too good to give it without getting paid.
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>>3070112
Yeah but it'd take months or more likely years for them to reverse engineer the tech by themselves.
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>>3070107
And what the Union gonna do about it? If they want we can always give a skunwork with then. Besides you speak as if they would be able to produce these weapons immediatly.
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>>3070115
No.
Wait scratch that. I have a song to play for you
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qlC6in7R0NU
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>>3070120
i Mean aren't we getting payed by researching all the tech we get from the captured ship? We can always ask for something more too.
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>>3070120
Who said anything about teaching them how to reverse engineer? That's no the equivalent of setting up a joint research project. Most of our prowess at reverse engineering comes from our inherent nature as a centralized intelligence.
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>>3070125
It's not about what they can do but how it'll make us look. If we're playing alliance maker our word needs to be gold.
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>>3070127
A man of taste at the very least.
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>>3070135
Fine...we can get another cruise another time. Or maybe we can just have the Commonwealth share whatever they find for us.
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>>3070107
You’re assuming the commonwealth war with the Union will continue. We have massive and growing influence in the commonwealth and we can likely get them to scale back or drop the war against the Union. Additionally, with the Union on the verge of collapse and myriad external threats we can likely get the Union to back away from war as well (even after the gravitic weapons deployment I think we could force a “white peace”)
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>>3070135
Yeah at this point it's looking like we are going to betray the Union wholesale which opens opportunity for Void shenanigans again.
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>>3069932
"It was said humans are held captive within the area?" Your drone says. "In what locations is this likely?"

"The whole city." He says. "It looks like they've been rounding up civilians and putting them in pens nearby their military centers. It's why I sent in commandos instead of an orbital strike."

"The Hive can assist these commandos." Your drone chirps. Cunningham waves his hand.

"Not needed. They are already on site. By the time you get there they will have already finished their task, however I would be thankful, and I am sure they would be too if you are able to reinforce their position and assist in their extraction. Once we lift radio silence I'll let them know the calvary is inbound. As it is now, they are ordered to attempt to destroy the ship's thrusters. Its main drive is potent enough, but judging by how it touched down, it doesn't seem very graceful in atmo. Once it's grounded they fall back and will rendezvous with your forces and make a final push on the HQ. That combat is going to be tight and brutal, I have no doubt. I suspect your forces will be keen on that kind of roughhouse."

"The Hive shall secure the enemy HQ then."

"Excellent." Cunningham says. He pushes himself to his feet with the sword in his hand, propping himself up with it like a cane. He attaches it to his belt and his helmet unfolds over his face, his voice suddenly coming through on the suit's speakers at a much louder volume.

"If you wish to remain outside of combat, you can wait here, although I can't say it will be safe here either."

"This speaker is disposable, it will maintain communications with the Cunningham.

"Ten seconds!"

"Well then follow close." He says. He turns to his men, each in a bulky and elaborate looking drop suit of their own as the cargo bay doors begin to open, revealing the vast formation of air units around the shuttle. Hive and commonwealth shuttles, atmospheric craft, fighters, bombers, and cargo and troop transports of all types and designs. Suddenly, almost the moment the formation passes the city's outer limits, the shuttle suddenly rocks to the side with a loud bang, and a sudden wave of flak and bursts of blaster cannons begin ripping into the formation. A red light begins flashing along the wall and a loud buzzer drones on as the drop troopers charge out the back of the shuttle. Cunningham draws his sword and opens into a sprint, diving out the bay doors as your speaker rushes after him, his suit firing its thrusters in short bursts to send him jutting from side to side, bobbing and weaving through the flak.

cont.

>>3069970
It was being invaded. You drove off the orbiting fleets. Argos however has had enough time for them to dig in and get a foothold on the planet.
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>>3070135
It would look more shady if we weren't doing the essentially the same exact thing with the Union over the Cluster and OQ incursion on Path. All this tech would come from hostile aliens captured on Commonwealth worlds, it's fair game.
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>>3070150
The only way this would be true was if we didn't aid them in reverse engineering the tech.
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I just realized we have an excuse to not give them the drive. IT'S A RELIC OF THE WAR.
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>>3070160
Then we definitely shouldn't and should take it away as too dangerous like we did with the contents of the Path lab.

>>3070162
True.
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>>3070160
If we're talking about tech we could get from the ship, and not tech we've already unlocked, then most of the novel tech the Scavs have would not be covered by a joint research initiative.
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>as the cargo bay doors begin to open, revealing the vast formation of air units around the shuttle. Hive and commonwealth shuttles, atmospheric craft, fighters, bombers, and cargo and troop transports of all types and designs.

So fucking awesome!
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>>3070177
I still wonder why there are people against assimilating the other races.
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>>3070182
Because then there would be no one left to fight. Not all races are the same or of equal value to the hive.
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>>3070182
In my opinion assimilation sounds a lot like we would be enslaving then like the void does witht he other races. And i would rather not do the same as the void.
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>>3070182
Also, when left to their own devices and pressures of which we do not shield them from, they can create some pretty neat things. I'm fine with assimilating some of them.
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>>3070162
We can't just go around calling everything we want to steal a precious relic, it'll be perceived as transparent greed and anyone who hears of this will be less likely to believe us next time we're trying to stop the Union from summoning satan.

Besides, didn't their FTL drive come from the silicates? Silicates are not the void.
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>>3070189
To which I say you complain of a non problem. To care about their value of their lives is what leads to atrocities and the Hall of Souls. It is the fact they are alive that makes them valuable by default.
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>>3070199
We more or less think the silicates are the Void right now. Seiner hasn't returned yet.
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>>3070199
>Silicates are not the void.
Technically true, but the Hive won't know that until Seiner gets back from his vision quest.

That being said, I'm open to trading with the Commonwealth for the ship. Even if we don't trade any technology our knowledge of the Scav forces, deposition, and objectives would be extremely valuable to them.
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>>3070214
Or we could simply request that we're allowed to reverse engineer the ship without giving them the technology we get and justify it as the only way we can maintain neutrality in the conflict unless they want us to also aid the Union. It's a bit of a strong arm tactic but still.
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So we are parasiting as many Scavengers as we can right? So we can get that sweet bonus to reverse engineering the ship.
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>>3070238
of course.
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>>3070238
We're reverse engineering that clunker regardless of how many scavs are still alive at the end of the fight.
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>>3070238
Obviously duh. Now that i think about it if we grab the scavs engennier we might not need to capture the ship to reverse engenier it.
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And I just realized we can use this ship to infiltrate the main fleet.
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>>3070246
Getting their scientists and engineers gives a massive boost to researching their tech and their tech is likely to be pretty slow to research.
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>>3070250
Yep, we just talked about that. See >>3069975
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>>3070266
Oh I thought that post was talking about the other one.
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As your speaker leaps from the shuttle, you see one of the other cargo transports tear open. Several drop suits emerge, some in parts, others diving out of the shattering hull and growing flames just in time. Elsewhere, an atmospheric craft is suddenly struck by incoming flack and its wing sheers off, sending it tumbling in a spiral as it falls from the sky, its shed wing incinerating into pieces as several craft behind it move to evade the debris. Your speaker swings itself away from a passing bolt of plasma as it plumes open and tears open the shuttle's fuelselage above you, sending the whole cargo bay erupting into flaming chunks. Tracer fire whizzes past your drone, fired from reclaimed commonwealth defence systems retrofitted bellow to be used by Scavenger hands. Your drone straightens itself into a sleek profile to dive after Cunningham, quickly diving out of the way of a shuttle as the rapid pings of projectile slugs puncture its cockpit and shatter its windshield, filling the inside of the windows with red as it gradually descends into a wild spin and its hold breaks open as the drop troopers within dive out before the shuttle impacts the side of an office tower, shearing off a chunk of the building as the flaming husk rolls into the street bellow.

You nearly catch up with the general and his personal guard. Your drone spins in the air to face its head towards a sudden noise as the sound of pulse jets suddenly breaks the sound of the rushing wind and flak, and you see a formation of the oddly shaped vehicles hurtling themselves skyward towards the air craft. The first wave is quickly intercepted as your own aircraft open fire, and the two forces begin to intermingle.

>Have your aircraft focus on taking out the enemy aircraft
>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops
>Other
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>>3070272
>Have your aircraft focus on taking out the enemy aircraft
Air superiority is the best superiority.
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>>3070272
>>Have your aircraft focus on taking out the enemy aircraft
It's what our aircraft are designed to do.
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>>3070272
>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops
The more people get to the LZ the easier it is for the troops following.
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>>3070272
>>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops
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>>3070272
>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops
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>>3070272


>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops

I mean this is what we want the less humans are dead the better right?
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>>3070272
>>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops
Our job is to support the ground forces not to get distracted dogfighting the enemy. Once the first wave has a beachhead we can destroy the opposing aircraft.
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>>3070233
"First rights to salvage" is also a fair payment for assisting in defense of human planets anyway. They are the ones requesting our help here, after all, not the other way around.
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Looking back at the backstory of our Matron couldn't we instead of demanding surrender offer the Matron a place in our fleet along with a Worldship? That might be worth testing to see if she rebels against her kind.
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>>3070272
>Have your aircraft focus on taking out the enemy aircraft
Can't let the air support take out the human troops.
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>>3070199
That it's from the days of the War with the spheroids and not the later Schism might make the case stronger, not weaker. It's from one of the Three.
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>>3070272
>Have your aircraft focus on defending the landing troops

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>3070340
Mother please
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>>3070340
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Rolled 29 (1d100)

>>3070340
FOR MOTHER
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>>3070340
FOR MOTHER
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>>3070340

JOLLY COOPERATION!

For Mother!
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>>3070351
>>3070354
>>3070356
It's going to be one of those days.
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>>3070359
god damn it
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>>3070359
Guess we know what Mother wants us to do next time.
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>>3070359
Alas, we were too late.
Priming dice arm for next set of rolls...
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>>3070367
Jolly Co-operation with Cunniham?
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>>3070385
Indeed fellow thinker, indeed.
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>>3070340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFkbyajVWR8

A drone craft passes with a sudden scream as a flight of scavenger pulse jet fighters hurl themselves into the formation, their directions suddenly shifting and changing as their thrusters juggle their hulls through the air back and forth. Your fighters give chance, though their pulse jets make them too maneuverable to hunt down effectively. Your fighters move into packs, surrounding them and closing in on each one, forcing them into a killbox of overlapping fire between your fighters, but the process is inefficient, on an equal footing, the pulse jet fighters evade and dodge every attack.

The aircraft above have served their purpose, and you see them begin to turn as they drop their forces, many of the enemy fighters give chase, and the sky is quickly filled with a maddening haze of weapons fire and flaming debris. Your speaker darts between the debris and incoming flak, diving away as fighters buzz around the falling troops.

A pulse jet fighter rushes by, suddenly jerking in its flight path as Cunningham's suit fires its thrusters, and he swings his sword as it passes, the brief contact suddenly sending him spinning through the air as a pulse jet nozzle flies away in a burst of flame, and the fighter's side suddenly erupts into a burst of flame as the oblong hull hurls itself like a baseball through the air tumbling uncontrollably toward the city bellow. His suit's maneuvering jets quickly spin him back around as his guard move to follow his path, firing their suit's guns at the passing fighters as the swarm through the air intermingled with hive and commonwealth strike craft.

"Ready to brake!" Someone shouts as the ground rushes towards the troops. The upper layers of the city's towers suddenly passing on either side of you with a sudden, deafening rush of air.

cont.
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>>3070498
Nice fucking music choice.
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>>3070498
>Cutting the wing off of a fighter plane while falling towards the enemy occupied city
RULES OF NATURE
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>>3070508
No wonder Lyle respects this guy.
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>>3070498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBa5tf4BZ10

The drop suits suddenly deploy several metal discs from their backs, each tethered to the suit as they open up like small parachutes, each one firing a a set of four retro thrusters as the drop suits begin to rapidly lose velocity until the discs sputter and flicker out, and the tether's detach from their backs. The troops fall the rest of the way, their jump jets firing several feet from impact as the streets bellow are pulverized underneath their armored feet. The troops immediately open up with their weapons, tearing into defences you cannot fully see from your perspective above.

Several scavenger grunts rush from their cover in flames as a stream of hot plasma is sprayed into the cluster of defenders. Blaster bolts lance out at them as they open fire, and Cunningham charges forward, his armored legs tucked in as his jump jets fire in a controlled sputter that sends him rushing forward at great speed, and his suit barges through the wall of of what was once the wall of a bakery as two of his guards follow close behind with the sound of gunfire and the smell of charred Scavenger flesh as panic pheromones fill the building.

Your speaker slows its own descent with a sudden burst of mental energy, sending debris and dust scattering and billowing up around your drone as it slowly touches down on the ground with the grace of a specter, floating into the crater left by one of the human troopers as you look over to their advancing line. The Scavenger defences have already broken in this intersection, their ordered positions breaking apart under an unrelenting wall of fire as the drop troopers march forward as they maintain their fire, their move assist armor holding their weapons steady as they fire a stream of automatic kinetic slugs into the buildings surrounding them until each squad stands only feet from the shattered doorways and windows of the buildings themselves.

The sudden silence is itself deafening. Cunningham walks back out from the bakery, his suit coated in alien blood as his sword's vibrations shake the blood clean and he returns it to its scabbard at his hip. Several radio antenna extend from his back and you feel the sudden burst of radio signals echo across the battlefield.

"This is Lord General Augustus F. Cunningham, my forces have made landfall. We landed slightly off course, two klicks from the beachhead. All other squads able to do so will move ahead on mission. Any who are unable to do so report in status and required aid."

He clicks a button and the signal stops. He turns back to the rest of the troops as they examine the debris of the local shops, pulling several scavenger corpses from the rubble, or sending a bolt into some for good measure as they offer a last gasp or involuntary twitch of a dying organism. One of the troopers marches up to the Lord General.

cont.
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>>3070620
>Your speaker slows its own descent with a sudden burst of mental energy
I just realized. We can make drones that can fight like Jedi.
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>>3070638
Jedi are pussies compared to Speakers.
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>>3070638
>I just realized.
Really? How do you just start realizing this? People have been making Star Wars references for a long time now so unless you're new you must be the densest motherfucker I've ever seen.
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>>3070654
Does your hostility make you feel better?
Having a rough day anon?
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>>3070662
Please accommodate that thinker; he is assigned to union vidnet monitoring and has been rickrolled more than eight hundred times today.
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>>3070662
I'm not trying to be hostile. Just how anyone can just realize such a thing when players have had prolonged discussion about "Jedi bugs" in quest.
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>>3070662
He's kinda right though, we invented lightsabers sages ago.
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>>3070620
"The landing zone is secured, sir. No civilians. A few bodies, but they're all old. Likely from the initial invasion."

"Depending on how accurate the other squads were, we should be securing the rail yard any moment now." Cunningham says. He points his hand like a knife down the street, where you can smell the pheromones of yet more scavengers. "We move in incremental waves, moving forward one squad at a time, the others offering covering fire. My squad covers flank, up on the buildings and moving along side. We catch them in a creeping crossfire, keep moving don't get complacent. They're maneuverable but they don't have good armor. They've built their military to attack, not defend, so we keep them on the defensive."

"Yes Lord General!" The trooper says, and he quickly runs ahead with the rest as Cunningham walks over to your speaker, his hand resting on his sword's hilt as a set of small sensor probes fire from his shoulders and begin drifting forward down the street.

"You okay?" He says.

"This speaker is undamaged."

"Good. Stick with the back line to stay out of the fight. I'm not sure how durable your diplomatic castes are."

>Stick with Cunningham and have your drone assist in the combat with its psionics
>Have your drone stay in the back and avoid combat
>Other
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>>3070691
>Stick with Cunningham and have your drone assist in the combat with its psionics
We can just airdrop another if this one gets damage significantly enough. Besides wouldn't want to have another interesting human getting killed.
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>>3070691
>>Stick with Cunningham and have your drone assist in the combat with its psionics

Commonwealth been getting some good rolls I guess, the spotlight is on them for now.
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Actually did we upgrade the speakers with the hardlight blades?
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>>3070691
>>Stick with Cunningham and have your drone assist in the combat with its psionics
Speaker is both disposable and surprisingly deadly in combat.
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>>3070691
>Stick with Cunningham and have your drone assist in the combat with its psionics
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>>3070700
Anons voted against it, only the ambassador drones got those. Which was a terrible decision in my opinion, as the speakers are the ones we actually send out into active battlefields.
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>>3070691
>>Have your drone stay in the back and avoid combat
We can't openly admit to telekinesis, it would leak to the Union like everything does.
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>>3070700
Only the Ambassadors. I looking at the thread now. Ghost Beetles and Psionic Warriors can use psionics to assist in combat.
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>>3070708
We just causally used telekinesis though.
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>>3070691
>>Have your drone stay in the back and avoid combat
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>>3070707
No we're sending the ambassadors out into battle, QD just uses the name speaker interchangeably for some reason.
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>>3070691
>Stick with Cunningham and have your drone assist in the combat with its psionics

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.

>>3070740
The ambassador is a kind of subclass of speaker, like how a radiation worker is still a kind of worker.
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>>3070740
No, those are the speakers we're sending out. The ambassadors are the hive equivalent of formal wear that are exclusively used in diplomatic environments.

Both have medium relays so the speakers are the ones that get deployed to the front.
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>3070753
JOLLY COOPERATION!

FOR MOTHER!
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>3070753
KILL THINGS FOR MOTHER
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Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>3070753
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>>3070710
Nobody was paying close attention to the drone landing in a crater. They can just assume drones naturally survive such falls.

They will obviously be paying close attention to combat and it'll be in the reports.
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>>3070765
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I think my heart skip a beat.
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>>3070759
You can tell they're ambassadors because they're using psionics, normal speakers don't have medium relays.

>>3070753
I guess that makes sense.
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>>3070779
Normal speakers absolutely have medium relays. We had a vote to retrofit them with them.
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Can we have our Photonic warriors work to deploy cover to help everyone stay mobile?
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>>3070785
When did that happen? I'm seeing the photonic blades vote but I don't see a relay vote. Are you thinking of our medium relay warrior variant?
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>>3070799
No, this is definitely the speakers. It happened sometime around thread...55, I think? Can't say I personally backed it but thats what the anons voted for.
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Oh shit, HQQ and DAtS running on the same night?
Sweet
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So fun fact: the full Rip Drive is free if made the main drive in place of the Blink Drive.
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The troops move out, the first squad moving with their weapons at the ready as the others maintain a vigil behind. Your speaker quickly follows Cunningham as he moves towards the nearby buildings.

"This drone is combat capable." You say simply, Cunningham accepts the claim as his thrusters hurl him up towards the building flanking the street as your drone follows, silently drifting up through the air behind him.

The scavengers are spread out across the city, looting, pillaging, and in general fulfilling their derogatory namesake. The process is all but halted at the sudden thunderous arrival of the drop troopers, and you see piles of valuables abandoned in the street as the scavengers fled to cover. You see several, moving within the buildings through windows and cracked walls. They are likely preparing some manner of ambush, and you sense the pheromones shift in the air confirm your suspicion.

Above, high in the sky, between the carnage of the fighters, drop pods fall upon the city en masse, sheltered from the defensive fire of the city's flak with pure numbers. Your drones are focused on the city's defense, but pods are scattered across the whole of the city, blasted off course from flak or flying debris. Organic shuttles continue to drop your forces even as the commonwealth aircraft flee from the flak, their own duties over with, and the passing drop pods seem to distract both sides for a brief moment as a pod impacts the street's office building high above, bouncing off its side and sending a cascade of glass raining down on the street as the pod tumbles in a shallow arc over the street and down an alley, cratering into the already damaged walkways bellow. The sudden rain of glass tumbles down over the squad like a glittering show of diamonds as both sides suddenly open fire. Photonic bolts explode against the ferrocrete surfaces of the massive office complexes on either side as the troopers lunge for cover, the troops behind shredding the shops and lobbies of empty offices with a sudden wall of kinetic slugs.

cont.
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>>3070890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhV0-1YRSCU

Your speaker twitches its antennae, a sudden scent of focused bloodlust emanating from the office cubicles ahead of your drone. A scavenger grunt dives out from beneath a pile of rubble. It lunges for Cunningham as his hand moves for his sword, and the grunt flies back suddenly, its body embedded into the wall with a sudden burst of kinetic force as blood seeps from its armor. More scavengers emerge from the rest of the office, as if summoned by the sound of the violence. Cunningham slices cleanly through the first, using its body for cover as its brothers open fire with their blasters. His guards return fire, incinerating the thin office walls as well as the scavengers. Your drone moves forward, its legs hunched and its body kept low as its arms project a pair of interlocking hard light shields as it slowly moves forward against the incoming fire, your mind reachout out with kinetic force and constricting the scavengers' bodies, as if your spectral hand were wrapped around their hearts. Their armor along their chests begin to dent, and with a sudden pop that sends bits of snapped wires and rivets flying out from their bodies with a sound not unlike a metal fork cracking open a crab shell, they collapse to the floor, and your speaker's shields fade quickly, sharpening into a pair of glowing wide blades flowing from your drone's wrists and it quickly lunges up and cleaves the remaining two scavengers at its flanks.

You feel more minds in the hall, quickly approaching, and you can hear the rapid thumping footsteps of an alpha clad in its armor. You sense their location, your mind approximating their position beyond the wall as they approach.

"Humans must fire their weapons at sixteen degrees from the door." Your drone says. The troopers seem confused, looking to one another as if to confirm the order was heard, but Cunningham simply pulls out a heavy machine pistol, more a short barrel machine gun than a pistol, its recoil rendering it unusable outside of a dropsuit, and opens fire on the wall as the squad of scavengers are suddenly caught off guard the moment they turn the corner, their bodies falling to the floor in pain as the grunts attempt to drag themselves to cover. The alpha ducks suddenly, the kinetic rounds glancing off its armor with minimal damage as it dives into a sprint, throwing its shoulder through the wall as it dives for the drop troopers, its blades extended in full. You reach out, and with a sudden mental force the alpha careens to the side, struggling madly to remain upright. Cunningham's sword clips its arm, severing it from the forearm as the alpha catches itself on its other claw and spins on it as a small micro-rocket turret on its shoulder opens fire. Your drone grips the rockets with your mind, sending them arcing up and into the ceiling as an avalanche of debris falls down from above as the rockets explode in the maintenance space just beyond the ceiling.

cont.
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>>3070920
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>>3070923
I think you forgot something in this post.
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>>3070920
Yes. show the humans that even our weakest fighting drones are not to be messed with.
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>>3070920
Jesus fucking chirst.

>>3070923
AH YES, THE BEST UPDOOT
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>>3070927
This isn't even our weakest. Our worker drones are.
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>>3070927
Oh fighting drones. Speakers don't count for that.
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>>3070939
>>3070943
Well, worker drones are not combat capable drones.
But our speakers are, and they're possibly the single weakest combat capable drones we're fielding.
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>>3070923
Oh man I bet the Void is behind this!
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>>3070947
>worker drones
>Not capable
Wrong. The time the Union tried to dissect our drones is proof they are combat capable. Also our Speakers are potent combatants due to psionics alone which the average drone lacks.
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>>3070923
>>3070957
The post has been lost in the perils of the warpVoid!
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Alright taking bets. Who here thinks QD accidentally deleted his post?
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>>3070962
Fair.
I guess our children can't really be compared 1-to-1, and all have their own special good qualities.

Mmmm... Now I'm thinking about our precious Titan-chan, and how he'd do if we grafted an advanced relay in him...
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>>3070969
It was the whales I tell you.
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>>3070983
It was the silicates!!
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>>3070969
It was crystals!
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>>3070920
Absolutely epic. If the Commonwealth doesn't have enough stories about how badass the Hive is, now there's this.
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What are the chances he didn't paste the text from another place and has to now rewrite the whole post?
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>>3071001
oof....
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>>3070969
>>3070983
>>3070984
>>3070986
This is the work of an enemy Void Crafter
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The dust fills the office, and you see only flashes of light as the alpha exchanges fire with the squad of humans, Cunningham's sword glowing with heat in the dense cloud making it look more like a sword of pure flame than a powered thermo-enhanced vibro blade. It swings up in a quick arc, flashing several times against the alpha's claws as sparks rupture in sudden flashes of light that burn their silloughets in the fog of dust for short moments, and then there is a sudden gurgle as the alpha drops to the ground with the sound of straining actuators as the suit's artificial muscles make the pack alpha seem to fall in slow motion, as if casually laying down instead of collapsing as a corpse.

Cunningham swings his blade in a quick flourish that sends the blood arcing over the walls, cleaning the blade in the process as he sheaths it, and he looks to his troops.

"When your ally says to shoot something, you shoot it. The hive has senses we don't. Assume it can see something you don't."

"Yes Lord General!" They say, and they quickly turn back to the windows, opening fire onto the firefight bellow. Your pod, while damaged, has done its job, and several of your drones quickly charge forth. While somewhat off target, your ghost beetles have landed in force across most of the city's perimeter defence as a forward strike ahead of the main force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO3ptQp6P9Q

The scavengers within the shop fronts turn quickly, their alpha sensing the mental acquisition of your drones as their relays invade their mind, your mental fingers grating against their consciousnesses like nails on a chalkboard.

Your beetles dive through the back wall from the alley and into the ceiling of the ground floor, quickly rushing over the office space as their echolocation zeroes in on each scavenger, their senses homing in on the heat of their blasters. The human forces outside move up into better cover as the scavengers within divert their attention, suddenly turning to face the opposite side as a grunt is suddenly hurled across the room and into the ceiling, its scented scream of panic filling the room as its blood pours down over its armor, and it is pulled up and into the maintenance crawl space above. The rest of the scavengers open fire as two more grunts run up from the direction of their alpha towards the doorway leading to the back of the office. They open it with a swift kick, and a Siren waiting on the other side emits its sonic frequency as its head crest dances with sudden lights of potent electrical impulses. The grunts fall back into spasms as several ghost beetles dive open them from above, their bodies both huddled behind a layer of interlocked hard light shields as the scavengers open fire while the drones plunge their mandibles into the grunts under their claws.

cont.
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>>3071013
N-NANI?!
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>>3071019
spooky
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>>3071019
Time to lay some eggs.
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>>3071019
It's like a horror movie. Nothing in Aliens was this scary.
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>>3071019
More move to the side, your ghost beetle moving under mental cloak. The alpha notices only as the last of his grunts send their panic signals as a flash of unimportant movement in the corner of the eye lunges out and begins ripping his units apart, your beetles thermal signatures controlled and regulated, keeping their bodies an unnaturally cool surface temperature. Even as the alpha notices them, his shots mis, his grunts managing only a few vain shots into the ceiling as their limbs and heads are removed as the ghost beetles consume their way to the grunts' vital organs. The alpha dives back, stumbling through the doorway into the street as a human trooper quickly pivots to open fire, sending the alpha to the ground as it bleeds out on the street, its claws peeling at its damaged armor, as if attempting to use its termal claws to cauterize its wounds. It looks up as the human drop trooper looks down on it with its weapon as a ghost beetle crawls up next to him, as if to show off its kill to the human warriors, its slender tail wagging slowly.

Your drone grips its ankle and quickly drags it back to its brothers as the alpha tears at the street with its claws, its bone chimes rattling incoherently as your drones collect their well earned meal for the day, quickly eating them from within their armor before leaping further into the office buildings to find their way back to their real targets. As they leave the sight of the humans your ghost beetles quickly shake themselves off like soggy hounds, sending flies from within their honey pot storage scattering into the air as they take flight throughout the city.

cont.

>>3070873
Yea, and the site is acting up a bit for us both it seems.

>>3070969
I... uh, actually hit the post button instead of the choose file button, and since the auto-captcha was still in effect it just went right on through like a gungho retard sans Leroy battlecry.
I feel dumb I tell you what.
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>>3071046
Imagine the xenomorphs, but there's millions of them, and they're using advanced tools, and they've got psychic powers.
That's the Hive.
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>>3071047
>its slender tail wagging slowly.
Aww, they're so excited to show their new friends how good they are at being invisible hunter-killer drones.
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>>3071047
>As they leave the sight of the humans your ghost beetles quickly shake themselves off like soggy hounds, sending flies from within their honey pot storage scattering into the air as they take flight throughout the city.
Siiiiick
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>>3071019
>"When your ally says to shoot something, you shoot it."
Good to see we're building some trust at least. Imagine how many problems could be solved if people would just shoot things when we told them to.

>>3071051
He's a good drone, yes he is, so cute and good at killing things for Mother and her friends.
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The humans continue on as Cunningham drives the troopers to the rendezvous point, while your drones quickly become more and more apparent within the city, their capacity for stealth maintaining a level of misdirection that is effective, but nonetheless makes their presence perfectly clear.

Your reading of the scavenger pheromone signals quickly falls apart as your drones, now more numerous, begin flooding the city streets with mixed and incoherent signals of terror and despair. The effect is immediate and obvious, as scavenger forces begin panicking en masse, abandoning their posts and falling back until there is nothing left to fall back to. You still lack the capacity to flood the whole of the city, but your advanced forces fill the perimeter defence facilities.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 to continue with the attack as planned, and disable the city's perimeter defences.
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Rolled 71 (1d100)

>>3071073
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>>3071073
WE CAPTURE FOR MOTHER
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Rolled 96 (1d100)

>>3071073

For Mother
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>>3071081
for mother indeed
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>>3071081
Well then.
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>>3071080
hol up
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>>3071085
how did I mistype a four letter word twice in a row? I'm not fucking doing a third attempt.
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Rolled 26 (1d100)

>>3071073
For Mother!
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Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>3071073
This better not be a 1
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>>3071081
This is honestly getting to the point where I almost, ALMOST, pity the scavs.
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Does this quest even have crits?
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>>3071107
We got an entire Union ship through a crit.
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>>3071107

Yeah iirc crit success and crit fail. With also <5 &>95 being important
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I'd really like a sample of those pulsed jet atmospheric engines.
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>>3071112
That wasn't just any crit, though. That was the first crit of the entire quest and it was beautiful.
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>>3071113
This isn't DATS, crit failure only takes effect if someone rolls a nat1, otherwise it's the highest of three.

>>3071116
They're basically the same as our own jet engines though. A classic ramjet.
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>>3071121
Either the engine or how they gimbal seems different.
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>>3071121

My mistake. It's easy to confuse the systems in my mind at times
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>>3071117
Don't forget the accidental nat 100 crit against the Obsidian fleet attacking the Broken Queens world

>>3071128
yeah dunno why DAtS does that
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>>3071132
Because The Obsidian order does not care for weakness. Nor is death truly the end.
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>>3071126
Good point, the way they're using them seems more like directional thrusters on a space craft than an aerodynamic engine integrated into the hull of an atmo-craft. At this point you could just about say the Scav's natural environment is zero-G space, so I suppose we shouldn't be surprised.

>>3071132
Because it never occurred to Jyoti to just use d20s if he wants a 5% failure rate on every roll.
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>>3071142
>Because it never occurred to Jyoti to just use d20s if he wants a 5% failure rate on every roll.
Eh it doesn't seem to be a failure unless it's a proper 1.

They succeeded at a roll with a 2 in the quest just now
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>>3071155
Maybe he let it slide that time, but he also totally killed off Nekris by dropping a whale on him because someone rolled a 2.

Seriously. A fucking whale, man.
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>>3071073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yw3yNlVuu0

Your drones move out from their landing spots. While your force has more specialized drones than a typical attack would otherwise need, there are still plenty of more typical warriors. They charge from their pods, swarming from the craters left by your craft as they swarm over the scavenger forces, their defences falling in seconds as they flee, only to be run down as your warriors build up a full speed gallop, charging the gun batteries and artillery lines at speeds rarely seen outside of a vehicle.

The walls of the facilities quickly begin to close as the scavengers sprint towards the gates, your warriors galloping behind them at full speed as the scavengers don't even bother to fire in their panic to flee from the wave of chitin death incarnate.

The gates seal shut as the scavengers thrash out at the wall ahead of them as your flies already begin scouting the interior of the courtyards of the gun facilities. The pounding of the gates suddenly stopping as the warriors impact them, the metal warping and bending from the sudden force. Heat begins to build up as the metal begins to glow, and hardlight blades slide through the gates as if going through butter, until the gate ruptures from mental force.

The scavengers open fire, their weapons deflecting against a shield wall of projected hard light as your ghost beetles move in, throwing themselves over the walls unnoticed in the chaos and slipping into the facilities inner sections before the warriors manage to overwhelm the outer courtyards.

By the time the grunts are swarming through the doors to the buildings, the interiors are already in chaos as your ghost beetles ambush the alphas in their command posts. Only a small fraction of the scavenger forces manage to fully fall back within the city, quickly fleeing to inner checkpoints as the ghost beetle attacks come without warning or logical pattern, striking across the city and slowly moving inward, eroding the city's defences like a corrosive acid.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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Rolled 45 (1d100)

>>3071162
For Mother and for friendship!
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>3071162
FOR MOTHER
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>>3071162
how horrifying

>>3071165
FOR MOTHER! MOTHER IS PROUD!
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>>3071166
Did you forget to roll?
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>3071162
Eh
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>>3071169
kek
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>>3071169
>>3071169
>>3071168
I AM GLAD I DIDN'T ROLL
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>>3071169
>>3071170
>>3071171


Uh.. I think I did it guys
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>>3071165
the dice gods continue to hate the scavs and it is glorious
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>>3071169
Indifference succeeds again?
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>>3071165
Jesus, what a day to be a scav.
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>>3071169
oh
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>>3071169

Scavs just can't catch a break, they should just put themselves up for adoption at this rate.
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>>3071169
I spoke to soon but this is obviously better

>>3071178
>Oh shit
Ftfy
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The worse part about this 100 was I was going to fucking bed and now I gotta wait to see how bullied these sofa fuckers end up
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>3071169
Well hey, speak of the crits and they shall appear.
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>>3071169
Scavs just can't catch a break can they...

RIP AND TEAR, FOR MOTHER!
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>tfw Commonwealth command read the status reports and watch the footage of their new "friends" fighting the scavs
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>>3071189
>>3071192
I love how every single action we've backed the Commonwealth on has consisted of us turning innumerable scavs into soup.

Delicious, glowing neon, soup.
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>>3071195
The dice just seem to hate the Scavs
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>>3071192
>>3071195
Between our slaughtering the Scavs during first contact with the Commonwealth (while losing only a single ship), the titan fight insanity, and now this, the Commonwealth must think we have some kind of a godlike military. The Union might think we are bluffing about our strength as we heard during the council meeting, but with the Commonwealth high command seeing us effortlessly deflecting an alien invasion that had overrun several Commonwealth planets, they likely think we are way above their league.
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>>3071162
Your flies examine the scavs as they flee to the inner city districts, and you feel them, and the ripening minds they carry. They flee thinking they have escaped, not knowing the blades of your ghost beetles' tails are not meant to kill at all, and now the eggs within them pulse with life, their soft membranes growing tendrils into their host flesh to more quickly mature the parasites within.

Around the city, nearly at once, the guns go silent. Your speaker finds the rail yard as Cunningham's unit moves out to secure it. Cunningham seems to stop for a moment, craning his neck to listen, seemingly sensing a change in the air.

"The guns are down." He says. Your drone nods awkwardly, the motion not quite intuitive for its musculature, making it seem oddly deliberate and slow. Cunningham quickly extends his radio pack again and begins calling out landing zones. He turns to the rest of his troops.

"Expect reinforcements by orbital drop in fifteen." He says.

"My god." One of the troops says. "Sir, I think the rail yard is secure."

The general quickly moves over to the trooper and turns the corner of a train car with his weapon in hand, and quickly raises it to the sky as he registers the scene, and holsters it as your ghost beetle extracts its head from the headless torso of a Scavenger pack alpha. It looks up to the humans, and quickly dashes beneath the train car as it cloaks itself with its mind, disappearing into the shadows.

Cunningham turns to the trooper.

"Search every inch to be sure. We can't let a competent ally allow us to become complacent." He says with a firm pat on the trooper's shoulder. He salutes and turns to continue clearing the facility as your ghost beetle drags the alpha's body back under the train car where it continues its meal in peace.

Cunningham returns to your speaker and holds out a hand. The grip is awkward to manage, but he quickly shakes your drone's claw in congradulations.

"We're not quite done with the bastards just yet, but by god things are going more smoothly than I could have hoped so far." He says. "Once we have a perimeter of our own setup we can begin the final push into the city center. I'd give it a few hours for that at most. It's a large city, but we can bring in the full force now, and scans indicate they're calling a full retreat to port district where the spaceport and riverfront are. I suspect they will be consolidating their forces there. We should plan a proper assault and expect the worst from them." He vaguely gestures to the gore and pools of neon blood all around the rail yard. "If this is the best they have I fear you may as well not have arrived at all. I expect these were their more green soldiers. It's their old guard I'd like to have a word with."

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>>3071169
THEY COULD HAVE JUST GIVEN US A COUCH!
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>>3071192
If that will be the Commonwealth face just imagine Union and Jack face once the report of this attack reaches then.
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>"My god." One of the troops says. "Sir, I think the rail yard is secure."

>The general quickly moves over to the trooper and turns the corner of a train car with his weapon in hand, and quickly raises it to the sky as he registers the scene, and holsters it as your ghost beetle extracts its head from the headless torso of a Scavenger pack alpha. It looks up to the humans, and quickly dashes beneath the train car as it cloaks itself with its mind, disappearing into the shadows.

Spooky.
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>>3071210
>Assault the front of their positions with your titan acting as a distraction, then the humans and your more specialized and covert drones can infiltrate their lines from the flanks.
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>>3071218
Yes! Bring in Titan-chan!
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>>3071210
>Ask about some detail (write in)
How many civilians have been located? It'd be nice to know if we can bring in heavier weaponry if it seems like the space port doesn't hold hostages.
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>>3071210
>>Other
Please, please QD, can we give our drones some of our fancy shiny guns we've never used for this next attack? I don't think we've ever used any of them once in open warfare on our medium drones.
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>>3071210
Holy shit those parasites grew fast. The ovipositors tails are terrifying. Do we have a Scav army now?

>Ask about some detail (write in)
Ask how the attempt to disable the scavenger ship is going. With the attack working so well, there may be more Scavs that have withdrawn to the area of the ship than the CW special forces had counted on.

>Offer a recommendation for the attack (write in)
Deploy titans in a frontal assault while infiltrating behind enemy lines with the ghost beetles while they're distracted. The general's forces can engage a flanking attacks and deep strikes while the Titans soak enemy fire.

Also, do you guys know if we installed personal shields on the titans yet? If not, we should do so (assuming we finished the tech).
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>>3071210

>Ask about some detail (write in)
How did the commandos fare and should we divert resources to back them up?
>Offer a recommendation for the attack (write in)
Everybody loves titans, right? Sounds like we send a titan in and ask the commonwealth what flank to leave open for them.
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>>3071221
Could, we send in some Arm Balls wielding them? or are we keeping them a secret
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>>3071230
We could actually send several titans in - all things considered they're relatively cheap with how wealthy we are.

Also, I agree we should see how the commandos are doing and send backup if needed/wanted. It's *really* important we take that ship intact.
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>>3071237
>the march of Titan-chan and his siblings
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>I expect these were their more green soldiers. It's their old guard I'd like to have a word with.

He isn't wrong from what we gathered from the broodmother this entire invading fleet are formed from the scavs more recent generation. Even the broodmother we captured was a young one.
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>>3071237
if we send multiple maybe one basic one heavy and one Omega so one of each main variant?
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>>3071210
>Ask about what he had planned for the attack
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>>3071243
>A firing line of Titans with giant Plasma Cannons
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>>3071236
Seeing as how we have yet to either clone any Ralighans or recruit them into our forces, that would be impossible.

But it's not too late for our own drones. What's more terrifying than a wall of chitinous death? A wall of chitinous death that's shooting at you. And we've unlocked many, many different types of firearms, most of which we've never employed in actual warfare. This is the perfect chance to test them out.
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>>3071242
We can add this to the list of "facts that will make the CW shit themselves"

>>3071243
I don't know all the variants, but sure, why not? What are the big differences?
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>>3071245
>A firing line of Titans with giant Plasma Cannons
>mfw
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>>3071244
>>Ask about what he had planned for the attack
Oh yeah, we should do this too. He's a smart guy and may have a really good plan already, not that his plan couldn't be improved upon.
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>>3071247
If I read it right Basic is just kaiju with thumper sledges, Heavy has guns guns and more guns on top of that and Omega has added onto that Psionics like our speaker was using.
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>>3071210
"How many humans have been found?" Your speaker chirps.

"I appreciate your concern." Cunningham says. "This force found a few dozen, I'm getting reports of others. All dead so far though, and not fresh either. It seems like they left the dead where they were after the initial attack, but cleared out the survivors." He seems to look to the side as something grabs his attention for a moment. "Third Company reports they found a cellar filled with survivors. Apparently they holed up in a smuggler's storage room during the attack. Hm. Not very pleased about having smugglers, but it was good the shelter was there. They're bringing them here for extraction and debriefing. Only a few minutes out from their position."

"What estimate is there for the civilians remaining?"

"That's hard to say." He says. "The city was home to millions, and it took some bombardment along the outer regions, but their strikes were accurate and low yield. I suspect they wanted to take as much of the infrastructure they could intact, and the residential areas were far enough from the strategic targets that they were nearly untouched. All things considered, I'd say there should be a few million left." Cunningham holds out a small holoprojector and the city layout appears projected against the ground. "Residential areas are here, here, and here." He says with several quick gestures to a set of districts and a small batch of spires. "The Ivory Gardens arcology suffered the most damage and mostly collapsed. Some survivors could still be in the lower levels, but otherwise I'd focus on the remaining centers. It looks like they are too. We've seen heavy transport activity in those areas, and it looks like the arcologies have been sealed. My guess is they're using the remaining civilian centers as camps to keep prisoners, but it seems obvious they're also transporting them into their military centers, I suspect as hostages."

"The Hive must be careful then."

"Yes." He replies. "We're not sure where they are, but I suspect that they would want them close enough to prevent artillery, but not so close as to disrupt their military operations. Same building, perhaps, but not in the same room. I suspect you will be able to find them rather quickly. If we can secure their locations, we can hit them without worrying about the collateral."

"What about your commandos?" You say. "They have proceeded with their mission?"

"Yes." He says. "Overwatch received a directed UV pulse as we attacked, meaning they succeeded. The Scav cruiser is rigged to blow if it tries to take off, and with any luck, they've been able to identify their command and control center. They should be able to locate some of the civilians, but they won't be able to extract them alone."

"The Hive will assist."

"I'll have that sent along the comms." He says. "They will look forward to the help I'm sure."

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>>3071255
>We found a few dozen
>Population of millions
>'but it seems obvious they're also transporting them into their military centers, I suspect as hostages.'

They are eating them.

If anyone would object to using/testing engineered weapons of any kind of these disgusting savages please speak up.
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>>3071260
It's still a human planet.
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>>3071260
No duh, they are eating then. Still we are also eating the scavs. Mostly their military forces but still eating then.
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>>3071262
Right, capture some scavs THEN use them for experimental weapons testing.
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>>3071260
From what we know of scavs this isn't the most likely outcome. If it was for food it would be easyer to take the corpses which they didn't.

They are using them as human shields and once they are properly dug in probably as slave labor. since that's what they did last time and from what we saw in the captive matriarchs memories.

We arn't going to use untested bio-weapons on a human city. Especially since conventional weapons are doing the job better and flashier.
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>>3071264
Sure, but we only eat invaders. So far.

We're going to have to revisit this concept when it comes to us attempting to invade Scav territory again and whether there's any such thing as a Scav civilian.
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>>3071255
Your shuttles begin to break through the cloud cover above as the main assault force begins to arrive with the city's guns dark and silent. Your drones shed from the hulls in buzzing swarms as your wasps take flight and cover the region from the rooftops like sentinel gargoyles. Warriors of all kinds swarm from your landed shuttles as colossi and your hover tanks emerge and form into columns, rapidly turning the rail yard into a parade ground as hive drones and human troops intermingle, the humans assembling defences with turrets and deployable walkers along the outer edges of the grounds.

Near the edge of the city, more shuttles arrive, the large drones pulling themselves from your shuttlecraft like newly pupated insects crawling from their husk of a cocoon. As the drones free themselves, several stand upright, their legs unfolding and their bodies snapping into place as their carapaces shift and correct themselves into a proper combat formation from their storage positions. Their lungs inflate with air as their bodies expand, steam pillowing from the spiracles along their backs like the exhaust ports of a great warmachine.

Your titans stretch their legs as they emerge from the shuttles, their size after they unfold themselves making the thought of them held within the transports almost comical. Several shuttles serve to avoid their heads as they march across the rail yard, each step cracking the thick polymer concrete underfoot with a reverberating thump that is felt within the chest and rattles the metalwork of the box cars surrounding you.

"What was your plan for the attack?" Your speaker asks. Cunningham's helmet folds back away from his face, and with a cruel smile he points up to your titans.

"For one, we use them." He says. "Are they capable of air deployment?"

"There is a variant, yes."

"Then we land it right on top of them. Scatter the little bastards like rats and charge in with the confusion. Have it march right through, doesn't need to bother for most of it, just have it take out any big guns and physical barriers, and we move in in its wake to mop up. Have more of these things move in from all sides, force them to spread their defences thin." He holds up his hand, slowly tightening it into a fist as the metal of his suit's gauntlet creaks from the force. "We box them in, and squeeze the bastards. Have them regroup at their HQ and take it in force. Infantry can take out what they're too big to get at, and it can take out any target too hard for the infantry, but the real issue is the shock and awe. We don't give them time to breath, just a building sized bug plowing through their door. By the time they realize the real bulk of the force is coming in behind it, it's too late."

>Add your own recommendations (write in)
>Agree to the plan
>Ask about some detail of the plan (write in)
>Other
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>>3071264
>>3071268
humans are honorary bugs.
They eat humans, it is equivalent to eating our drones. Zero tolerance. We are superior beings, we are allowed to have double standards.

>>3071266
>Especially since conventional weapons are doing the job better and flashier.
Better, probably yes, but flashier is debatable. Depending on how effective a sea-spore injection would run it might be more or less exciting than claws/cannons blazing.

Imagine the humans rushing the city to silent gun emplacements and a city of statues. millions of scavs dead and perched like birds over every inch of high ground at the same time as the atmosphere heaves with an artificial blizzard of spores.

bone chilling. But I relent, as this drone has been outvoted.
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>>3071271
>>Agree to the plan
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>>3071271
>Agree to the plan

I mean sounds pretty solid. We make the enemy spread and have our titans break their formations.
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>>3071271
>>Add your own recommendations (write in)
>>Agree to the plan

>We also continue to have our Ghost Beetles and Psirens move in, targeting any areas that seem like supply depots or armories.
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>Agree to the plan

did somebody say Kaiju? I think I heard sombody say Kaiju!
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>>3071271
>Agree to the plan
I wonder how opposed the humans would be to tactical spore dispersal.
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>>3071280
Very. It's still their planets. Let's use our bioweapons in the worlds the scavs have landed in the Eye of Sorrow and the Eye of Wrath. Maybe we can even use the creep to take control of the worldship
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>>3071271
>Add your own recommendations (write in)

Advise that we have assets on the inside and very capable stealth units so forcing them to commit heavily to a single point/front, beheading the command structure and then rapidly redeploying or attacking with a secondary force from a different location may be a more viable strategy. It also has the bonus of limiting the combat to 2 areas that we define, reducing the potential of civilian casualties.
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>>3071280
Do we have a reliable way of removing our own spore? I mean its zerg creep tier stuff, even for small scale tactical use it would be counter productive to use on a human city. if we were out in the hinterlands we could contain it and remove or contain it and turn the area effected into a garden of eden paradise. This is the middle of a city however so it might cause some problems.
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The scavs aren't above denying us any kind of recovering. In the middle of the fight they may become desperate and rig the human civilians to deny us their rescue. Would such thing be possible to happen?
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>>3071271
>Agree to the plan

And I think that's got to be it for tonight. It's getting quite late.

I think we can resume this thread on wednesday, although I do work this Sunday, but depending on my work schedule for the rest of that week, we may be able to push it to Monday. I'll let you know on twitter when I figure that out. Additionally, I think we should probably cap off this thread with another crunch session for working through your designs, if you'd like.

Anyways, I'll try and stick around for a bit longer for any questions, comments, feedback, ect.
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>>3071287
Yes we can easily remove our own spore/hive creep
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>>3071289

Thanks for the run!
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>>3071289
How many ships would it take to Hive-Dust an entire planet in a day?
A module to increase the amount of soldiers on a ship?
Isolation Fields module/utility price or was it combined with damage control?
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>>3071289
Thanks for running QD!
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>>3071278
Supporting this. If our spec ops drones can get an approximate idea of where the civilians are being held, that would be a bonus.
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>>3071289
thanks for the run boss
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>>3071296
Didn't the Human commandos already located the civilians and they were only unable to extract then due to not having support?
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>>3071289
Thanks for running QD!

Now serious question here, under what circumstances, if any, are we going to see our warrior drones actually using the vast arsenal of weaponry we've developed throughout the course of this quest? Is there any alternative to bog standard melee for them?
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>>3071293
Dozens I'd say, at least fifty if we're looking to rush it and get the whole planet in just a day. Obviously capillary towers will help in this tremendously but I assume you are asking about using it offensively.

Also, you could potentially speak with the Commonwealth on developing a means of more efficient troop transport in order to carry more troops without needing to cut down on munitions or armor space within the ship.

Isolation fields if I recall I had as a passive upgrade. Any sufficiently developed hive creep can function as a hard light projector (if maybe not a very good one) and I consider the inside of any hive made ship to count as sufficiently developed hive creep, as such, any passive defence upgrade that applies to your hive interior will apply to your starships, although there is a somewhat blanket aspect of your ships' interiors being slightly less effective, due to them not being able to use as much space as freely as you can on planets or in space cities. With physical space at such a premium, your ships can't have their interior defences quite on the same level as a full hive's interior, but it does have all the same tech.

>>3071302
Absolutely. They didn't really need to shoot in this instance because your pheromone attack was simply so effective your warriors were not actually taking fire as they approached, while deliberately allowing those tagged by your ghost beetles to escape. (thus the secondary roll) but the coming battle should be more standard. As always though, I calculate combat with the assumption that your warriors are charging forward while firing their weapons like mad men. They will, however, always prefer melee combat, as the main function of the Warrior role is to advance the front line and push the enemy back. Taking cover and attacking from range prevents this. To a warrior, the most typical form of cover they will have will be the body of the warrior ahead of it. When the combat situation calls for a tactic beyond charging ahead while shooting full auto, another drone role will be used instead, so the best role for the job will always be used whenever possible.
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>>3071306
So a hundred ships could easily jumpstart a hive colony if used with spore pods to act as control centers?
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>>3071289
Thanks for running qd
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>>3071306
That makes a lot of sense, thanks for explaining that. Cause man, those weaponized pheremones of ours really did cause the scavs to shit themselves.
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>>3071289

Cheers for running QD, always a blast
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>>3071285
>>3071278
These both seem like good additions or suggestions.

We should also make clear that we want that ship as intact as possible, specifically to salvage the FTL.
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>>3071347
We also want plenty of Scavengers alive to help with research of their own tech.
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>>3071306
>To a warrior, the most typical form of cover they will have will be the body of the warrior ahead of it.
That's fucking metal.
Thanks for running QD!
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>>3071273
>They eat humans, it is equivalent to eating our drones. Zero tolerance. We are superior beings, we are allowed to have double standards.
We eat our own drones. Like we give as much fuck about humans as you think.
>humans are honorary bugs.
Are you secretly /pol/? This sounds like that honorary aryan shit they push about Japan. This is in several ways untrue. The most important problem is that human have the potential to be the death of us if we don't take control of their nations or genocide them which is problem our drones would never cause us. The only "honorary bugs" are Hive citizens as it should be and most of our citizens are actually Taidarens.
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>>3071306
>Absolutely. They didn't really need to shoot in this instance because your pheromone attack was simply so effective your warriors were not actually taking fire as they approached, while deliberately allowing those tagged by your ghost beetles to escape. (thus the secondary roll) but the coming battle should be more standard.
>we rolled a nat 100 to parasiting Scavengers
Wait second.
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just a thought:

Humans have a saying "Call of the void" to mean that little voice that tells you to do something really fucking stupid.

"Touch the flame, Let go of the rope, Jump"

In this quest, is that the equivalent of the void trying to get access to humanity?
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>>3071365
ye boi, they be getting adopted.
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>>3071365
>>we rolled a nat 100 to parasiting Scavengers
So I assume we have lots of parasited scavs behind enemy lines then, nice.
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>>3071528
Should we not let them flee to spread the infection then?
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>>3071629
Infection? There is no infection, just parasites.
Unless you mean potentially letting them get off world and back onto their motherships and having them mutate into... chimeras, I think they were? Is it possible for a parasite to mutate into an egg layer?
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>>3071634
shh, they're not parasites, they've got spinepals™ that are there to show them how nice being part of the Hive is.
nothing to worry about.
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>>3071634
>>3071637
Fairly certain a parasite can induce a chimera metamorphosis and then turn into an egglayer
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>>3071355
>Claims questgoers are secretly/pol/
>Is the one advocating genocide.
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>>3071926
That would be perfect.

>>3071306
I got a question for you, QD; would it be possible to take a page from the Flood out of Halo? What I'm asking is, could we pick off Scavs on one of their ships and pile up the bodies somewhere discreet, then break them down and use them as fuel for the spreading of Hive creep or maybe even a scaled down version of a Capillary tower to flood the halls and ventilation with spores?

I'm curious if we could take an entire ship from the inside using nothing but Chimeras formed from their brothers in arms and the corpses we convert into useful matter.
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>>3071954
Isn't that similar to how the Obsidian Hive creep works by having drones and tech that melts down into the creep?
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>>3071946
>implying everyone here hasn't suggested genocide at some point.
But more seriously humans who aren't under our control will become a problem especially if they discover tachyons, also we are legally committing genocide according to the U.N.'s definition for genocide since eliminating "religious groups" is genocide.
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>>3071629
That's actually fucking brilliant, anon.

The chance we've been waiting for to infiltrate the Scavs has just been made available to us by QD. I'm sure he thought of this as well, and was waiting to see whether anyone would catch wind of the opportunity.

Letting this one cruiser (and its FTL) go in order to infiltrate Matron's star is more than worthwhile.
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>>3072061
But can we convince the general that it is worth it?

Also, unless they rigged explosives rather than the thrusters, the ship will detonate as soon as it tries to get clear, thanks to the commando's.
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>>3072061
Not only is the cruiser already rigged to blow letting any part of the crew not already infected off the planet is a horrible leak of all kinds of information not the least of which is our decoding and abuse of their pheromone signaling essentially voiding one of the greatest weapons we have against the scavs in ground or boarding combat.
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>>3072072
I was more under the impression they rigged explosives TO the thrusters, which I assumed (though this may be wrong) would go off on a signal they'd give at lift-off.

>>3072074
What are they going to do, equip all their troops with vacuum gear (and vastly decrease their coordination accordingly) or fundamentally change their physiology overnight?

Also I suspect we'd be able to infect the rest of the crew before they got back.

We've already got explosives rigged to it, all we have to do is only detonate enough to hobble it rather than destroy it. If they have to drop out of FTL to make repairs before they can make it to Matron Star then we would've won.

It's a doable plan with the assets we have available.
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>>3072074
>>3072086
Break their comms unit, let the crew get off, blow the ship while its in the docks/repair area and have the parasite'd fools become lunch in a quiet corner for an egg layer.

That should work
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>>3071978
>humans who aren't under our control will become a problem especially if they discover tachyons
Recall that the Hive has a huge numerical and logistical advantage over humanity. We can clone competent void crafters and psions faster than humanity can birth and train them. At best, even if humanity could match our numerical advantage (through their own cloning and mind-imprint tech), they would need to contend with a unified entity acting in full logistical harmony. Yes, the singular queen of a Hive is a massive weak point, but it does offer advantages other races do not have. Personally, I see an advantage in working with the single-minded races. It has certainly paid off technologically (much of our technology was originally developed by humanity), and our human agents are incredibly potent.

Not even speaking long-term, we will need non-psionic forces to investigate the Eye of Wrath without triggering its silicate defenses. We could ask the Commonwealth to do it (although Theseus would also be an appropriate substitute).

And as an aside:
>>>/tg/36779197 (12/15/2014)
>Seiner quest when?

>>3015191 (10/31/2018)
>Welcome to Seiner Quest!
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>>3072128
>We could ask the Commonwealth to do it (although Theseus would also be an appropriate substitute).
Why substitute? Theseus should be our first choice for research partner.
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>>3072131
My hesitation comes from Theseus lacking any kind of (or very much) self-determination in terms of probability paths in the Void. Theseus may not be an appropriate choice because he would be an automaton that would be simpler to manipulate through the Void.

Basically, a fancy rock might not be a good choice to send to investigate a place that was ruled by creatures who controlled fancy rocks and living creatures through the Void.
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>>3072139
Considering Theseus worked fine in Nowhere where a thought construct was being summoned/created and Theseus was actively working against it and he was fine I doubt that's a problem. It could even be harder for the void to work on it since it took effort for Seiner to even find the probability egg of Theseus
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>>3072139
This is incredibly insulting to Theseus.

Remember during Seiners visions the First Queen showed Theseus making a massive serverfarm in the Void that was bigger than a planet's mass?

Theseus is destined for the Void. Hell, I bet even Heretic might someday appreciate transcending their physical mechanical forms to become Void dwelling
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>>3072147
Good point, but I'm still holding the Commonwealth as a valid backup in mind. We've dedicated a lot of effort to help them basically pro bono, and I think we should get something out of it to make them less suspicious of our motives.

The only things we've requested from them are the wreckage of the Mirage and Canderon, but after our acquisition of Canderon mining from Union/Valen space, I think we shouldn't ask for Canderon. The value of it is very high in Commonwealth space, and it has just dropped in value for us, since we have plentiful other sources, so it's just not a great deal for either of us. Being able to farmstead on their planets for X years might also be appropriate, but soliciting military aid in exchange for military aid would be fair.

Of course, we could ask Theseus to do it, but then we'd have to negotiate a price for his involvement. Maybe he'd do it for free, but we've traditionally traded for many of our exchanges (Nowhere being a major exception, and likely because Heretic was involved, and it was an emergency).

>>3072158
Yes, he has the potential for it, and I'd like to see him get there, but currently he's not at that level. As far as destinies go, there's no guarantee we'll end up in that timeline. Just calling it how it is right now, Theseus is First Queen Certified Not-Alive. Whether that's a benefit or a drawback in exploring the Eye of Wrath is unknown, but if it doesn't work out for any reason, we can ask the Commonwealth. It's not so bad to have backup plans.
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>>3072158
But he’s not wrong. Theseus may at some point in the distant future be able to move through the void freely, but for all we know that could be well after we’ve defeated the void and brought some measure of stability to those higher dimensions.

As he currently exists, Theseus has no capacity to distinguish between alternate branches or paths to future outcomes. That potential exists exclusively in creatures with souls. Which means if an outside entity capable of shifting between outcomes (ie the void) goes after him there isn’t much he can do to stop it from influencing him in any way it pleases.
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>>3072128
The problem isn't if they can defeat us. It's if they would trigger something like the Schism or the creation of a second Hall of Souls. I have no doubt we could defeat them but that is no reason to not suspect the worst.
Also a fun little detail that may have been overlooked by the playerbase is that Seiner did see through Theseus the "adoption" end for the quest or at least what looked like it.
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>>3072187
>It's if they would trigger something like the Schism or the creation of a second Hall of Souls

I hadn't considered that, but it's a valid concern. My understanding is that the Schism involved a lot of very strongly-psionic queens, so it would be difficult to do that with the much weaker human psions, but I suppose we shouldn't rule it out. Seeing the Elizabeth/Seiner fight, my estimate is that hive Queens are orders of magnitude stronger than humans in psionic terms, though.
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>>3072213
There's a lot more humans than there ever were queens even at the height of the Threes reign. Hell the humans have already shown to be a step ahead of the void in terms of making openings into the void if you compare the extremely compact and quick to build quantum tap pentagram versus the massive and millenia taking neutron star pentagram.
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>>3072213
Never underestimate the ability of a lower lifeform to fuck shit up. Though most of the lesser races don't need constant observation or control. Only the leaders and thinkers. Also the reason that the Void got fucked up was the fact it wasn't treated like holy ground but a tool to be used. Combine that with the fact the Void is connected to all living creatures and it's easy to see why thing went wrong when weaponizing it.
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>>3071966
Kinda, but we wouldn't have the drones to spare. That's why I'm asking if it's possible to essentially use the enemy's corpses as fuel to spread our creep and spores.
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>>3072265
All biological matter the creep encounters is consumed and made into more creep. I believe it was the Greenwall research.
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>>3072256
I feel like that's because they were shoving a planet into the void with the neutron star pentagram, or something along those lines.
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>>3072256
>There's a lot more humans than there ever were queens even at the height of the Threes reign
That's uncertain. The hives were many and very populous, spanning most of the galaxy.

>compact and quick to build quantum tap pentagram
Which used Canderon created by the Watchers to generate the singularities, and a Void Shard as a focus.

I'm sure we'll find out more about how it was done before Humanity (or any other race) becomes psionic enough, so it's not a concern we should immediately focus on, but definitely something to keep in mind.

>>3072258
Now I'm wondering if we can turn it into religion. I remember Yogesh telling us of his Sikh faith and asking if there was anything the Hive believed. Plus there was that book from the Clarke "Journey into the Galactic Consciousness" or something. I know other people have joked that this book might be the secret key to our problems all along, there might be some truth to that.
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>>3072283
Hmm, interesting proposition. How do you resist an enemy that turns the very souls of lesser beings against you? Start your own religion.

I remember one anon mentioning using the thoughts and minds of large numbers of lesser minds to boost the power output of our own, if we were going to use the psionic cannon at any point that would be the way to go about it, perhaps.
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>>3072283
Oh of course. A bunch of radical "true believers" is exactly what the void needs to stay stable. Ten minutes into the religion some jackass will try to become one with the universe and kick off Hall of Souls II: The Quickening.
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>>3072299
Adapting the Spirit Bomb technique I see
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>>3071954
Well, in such a case it would be done automatically as you would not be able to maintain contact with any infiltrators within a fleeing ship. Also, you don't have any parasites currently implanted, they are all eggs. That said, yes, you can have some of them produce egg layers, and in fact some would do so automatically.

>>3072283
I'm sure Yogesh would find the discussion quite interesting.
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>>3072185
And we were told it was possible for Theseus to attain a soul of his own. Clearly we need to help him research such.
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>>3072345
Now that we know the Watchers aren't the void I wouldn't be opposed to throwing him a basic relay to get started, though I'd want to build a shroud on zero one to hide him from the void and maybe a bit of personal tutoring on resisting our psionic attacks so he knows roughly what to expect.
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>>3072345
>>3072379
We're still not sure exactly what it is that qualifies something as "alive." I think we can all agree that a "living" thing has a probability branch in the Void, but we don't know exactly what allows something to navigate the branch. The Scarred Queen and our mother's generation seemed adamant that it was carbon-based life with DNA that made something alive, which overall seems to be a low bar. "Life" doesn't appear to need to be able to detect or to emit tachyons, because then a tachyon emitter/detector would be alive. Intelligence or the appearance thereof seems to have little relation, as any given Theseus instance is more intelligent than a given Scavenger Alpha, but the latter pings in a way that the former does not. There's got to be something else that we've not understood yet.
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>>3072331
>I'm sure Yogesh would find the discussion quite interesting.

I'd love to have that discussion with him, but at this point it's metagaming because Red Queen doesn't have the information from Seiner's spirit quest yet. It'll probably be a bit before this comes up in an in-character manner.

Having some discussion out of the way in advance would help accelerate matters, though.
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>>3072379
>>3072421
>>3072345
I wonder if it would be possible to set up a psionics side-project with Theseus that doesn't eat up his research slot. With all the prerequisite safety measures of course.
Sure we have to baby him on the utmost basics, but it could help in understanding just where "being alive" and psionics come together.
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>>3072461
>>3072421
>>3072379
>>3072345
Why not just make him part of the Hive? Like turn him into a Hive Vassal or something. It's not like he loses anything in such an arrangement.
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>>3072470
Because he's a peer and the closest thing to a friend for a super-organism like that. I don't think he has any inclination of being in a subservient role with us and neither do we have any inclination of forcing him into that.

And mechanically speaking, how exactly do you propose to control an entirely nonbiological entity like Theseus without the use of force?
Because our single-minded children and adoptees get spine pals, while the Scarred Queen literally owes her new life to us and to her, the rules that bond a lesser Queen to her matron is a cultural obligation.
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>>3072491
Control? Why would we need an active measure to control him? Most of what he's going to be around for is research, decision making, hacking, and dealing with other races which is stuff he'd rather be doing than fighting. Hell I've been thinking of using him to help with managing the Expanse population and infiltrating the Scavengers.
> I don't think he has any inclination of being in a subservient role with us and neither do we have any inclination of forcing him into that.
Did you really not notice our current relationship has him subservient? We are basically the leader of the alliance we have going. We constantly help with his interests without asking for anything. We constantly show concern. He more or less does whatever we say and doesn't seem in the least bit bothered by this position.
It honestly seems like we are acting as the leader but have chosen to not make our position with Unity official eliminating much of the efficiency and information sharing we should get because some players have the opinion that it would hurt Theseus's feelings or something.
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>>3072470
We'll have to get further in the silicon/carbon tech tree if we wish to have them become a part of the hive network.
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>>3072717
That brings up a good question.

Should we help Theseus set up his own tachyon network between his synth bodies, or should we adopt him into our own already expansive and powerful tachyon Hive network?
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>>3072719
Let him set up his own network, with Hive supervision should anything go Void shaped.
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>>3072767
That would be nice for him, but then again, pulling him under the Hive Network umbrella could be safer while we're fighting the Void.
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>>3072781
maybe have that as an emergency option - I'd like to see how Theseus makes his own network. Who knows, maybe he'll make something wholly different from ours.
Of course, we'd request an observer tachyon node, and when things go Void shaped we can turn that node into said emergency Hive network connection.
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>>3072258
The Void can be a tool. The Old Queens fucked up by using it to craft a metaphysical shiv, driven by violence and hate. While they sucedded, such strong emotions and thoughts, used with little care, warped their minds into ones of pure violence and hate. Using the Void is fine, the Old Hives did it before the War, as did the Silicates, though in a far more mechanical way, so it can be done without fucking up everything.
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>>3072811
I agree. The First used the void as the dangerous tool it is with the respect it deserved.
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Now, how are we planning on explaining our clearly psychic powers to our Commonwealth allies?
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>>3072879
Sufficiently advanced technology.
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>>3072811
The consequence of this line of thought would be using the Void to construct medical tools, farming equipment, and art.

We ourselves cannot fully enter without risking conflict and we cannot use it to build things with military applications
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>>3072896
Or we could just say it's an innate talent. Technology is more obviously shareable.
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>>3072915
Considering they know of our near magical biotech why would innate talent be something not shareable? We'd have to explain way more with innate talent than just say it's technology and no you can't have it.
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>>3072896
This is basically the right answer. Magnus already told us we didn't seem as advanced as he thought a species our age would be. Us having extremely advanced technology strongly supports our claim of being an ancient power. It's also true that the humans lack the technological base to even begin to understand psionics even though they can still utilize it to an extent with Hive assistance (such as building the psi cannon or developing into Void walkers like Seiner 2.0).
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>>3072879
Manipulation of fundamental universal forces. Very advanced stuff. Very dangerous. Humanity is not equipped to understand.

If they ask if we can teach them or modify them or create some device, we can tell them maybe later. If they press further, we can tell them the Union tried, and it ended up very poorly for them.
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>>3072879
Focused mental power. We just think really hard and things happen.
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>>3072977
>We think really hard and it happens.

Also this thread should be resuming Wednesday, technically tomorrow, around 7pm eastern.
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>>3072982
Nice.

>>3072595
Don't confuse a master-servant relationship with our friend-group leadership. He is not our servant, and we are not his master. Theseus does what we tell him because our interests align. He does a lot more than just what we ask him, I'm sure, we just don't see it. I'm not sure how you think we should alter our relationship, or how it would gain us anything. Looking back over his characterization, he seems to be driven by a thirst for knowledge, which has always been one of our secondary objectives. Heck, he might investigate Eye of Wrath for free just because it's more knowledge.
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>>3071106
I Scribbled that ages ago while trapped at work, and since then I think iv seen it resurface every time the Skav's are getting their shit kicked in.

So since I had the day off and nothing else on my to do list, here is an updated version of the image of it as a Thank you to QD for running the quest and to you for enjoying the image enough to save it and last but not least.

For Mother.
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>>3073022
So fucking metal.
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>>3073022
Thanks again for your work, great as always.
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>>3073022
>every time the Skav's are getting their shit kicked in
Isn't that literally every time we come into contact with the scavs? I don't think we've ever rolled poorly when it comes to the scavs.
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>>3073060
We had a mediocre roll at the start of the thread but th e commonwealth covered our ass.
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>>3073060
We did roll a nat 1 against them and almost got wiped.
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>>3073060
We did once. During our second space encounter with them while they were scouting the Builder's dockyards in Wonder. Had a number of our lighter ships damaged and destroyed, which was a lot back then.

>>3072595
>Did you really not notice our current relationship has him subservient? We are basically the leader of the alliance we have going. We constantly help with his interests without asking for anything.
Incorrect. Everytime that Theseus has contacted us for help, like digging up the relay on Earth, he has always paid us back in tech. Literally every transaction we had with him was fairly paid back.
Hell, after the disaster at Nowhere, we owe him some compensation for losing a Server Ship.

>He more or less does whatever we say and doesn't seem in the least bit bothered by this position. It honestly seems like we are acting as the leader but have chosen to not make our position with Unity official eliminating much of the efficiency
Because
We are fighting a star-system spanning alien hive mind with a frighteningly efficient industrial capacity based on almost incomprehensibly advanced biological manipulation. Who is best-suited to lead the war effort than your alien ally from the same species and on top of that has a greater understanding of the workings behind the enemy's strategic logic? Theseus is smart enough to know that he's not an expert at fighting enemy Hives or Void incursions, so he defers such matters to us and Heretic.

Again, you are mistaking that two guys working together, who share the same goals,have had no quarrels before, and is following each other's advice because its a good idea in general; is somehow the same as master-servant relationship
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>>3073021
>I'm not sure how you think we should alter our relationship, or how it would gain us anything. Looking back over his characterization, he seems to be driven by a thirst for knowledge
That is because he is a slave to his programming. He both seeks survival and to serve the purpose he was designed for. The First Hive has confirmed as much. It was mentioned he was originally a tool to help with research eventually turned into a human social engineering project so it's pretty obvious what all his goals are.
>Don't confuse a master-servant relationship with our friend-group leadership
There isn't actually a difference. Theseus has no free will. That's what "true life" is.
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>>3073081
>Theseus has no free will. That's what "true life" is.
Vaughn literally caused an AI rebellion because of people who thought like that planned on shutting Theseus down. And the First Queen herself said that he has potential to gain a soul

>"I understand your thoughts on this, but all life was once not life. You were once a series of amino acids in a fluid, a clump of unintelligent cells, but eventually, the strands of these soulless things gathered together into something that could cast a shadow upon this realm, something with a tree of potential to whittle away throughout its life. This 'Theseus' is no different. It is merely a far more proficient collection of cells. It holds a level of intelligence, but even with its randomness, it is still a difference engine to fate. This being has no capacity to perceive its worldline, but is fated to simply streak through it like a bolt of lighting or a flowing river. Its tree of potential is no different to a stone's, or a pool of water, however, it does have the potential to become more."
>"Doesn't that make him alive?" You ask. "The fact he has that potential?"
>"That was not your question." The First says suddenly, appeasingly almost. "This being has no soul to project into the Void, but that is not a testament to a lack of life. A plant lives. Cells of your skin live. For now, this being is a lever wielded by your Queen, and forged in part by you."
>"You see here?" She says. "Theseus may yet earn a soul. There are branches where you were never conceived, but that does not mean you do not exist. This Theseus has simply not yet been conceived. He is an egg, although an intelligent one."

>a master-servant relationship with our friend-group leadership
>There isn't actually a difference
Yes there is.
The latter is built on mutual aid and resource sharing on a /voluntary/ basis.
The former arrangement benefits the master much more than the servant, with the servant unable to refuse any demands without reprisal.

They only look the same to you because there has never yet been a situation where Theseus would back down from a request we make.
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>>3073081
you seem to be misinterpreting something here. Theseus has free will he has no soul/void shadow. all the times elder queens have mentioned "true life" its always been them being snooty and closed minded. Void influence is effected by tachyons which from what we know is a product of the natural evolution of sentience, Theseus being a machine mind has no such organ and thus no void shadow. This doesn't mean he doesn't make decisions on his own, it just means void entities cant see his trees.
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>>3072982
>>3072977
QD says we should do it, so even if its just our opening answer, our speakers need to speak cheek.
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>>3069393
Fuck...I missed it bc of work. Well thanks for the interesting lore ad thanks for the stories.
Not gonna lie, I'd love to see a side episode where the hive and the new necrotic armada encounter each other.
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>>3073190
I really wouldn't.

i mean it would be cool sure.....but the difference in prorities would lead to shit flinging.

But finding an offshoot of either in either quest could be......interesting.
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>>3069607
>They had to have, at the very least, been aware of what the Union was doing in that system, they're mind readers of all things.
They only read broadcasted thoughts though right? Which humans can't do.
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>>3071209
This makes me want to get the Commonwealth and Union into peace talks and then somehow subtly suggest that we might have to intervene militarily if their war goes on much longer in the face of the OQ, so that the Union can see the way the Commonwealth's admiralty's buttholes clench at the thought.
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>>3073615
kek
Genius.
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>>3073098
I'm not. Theseus literally has no "free will" and if you do you are subject to the Void. Giving him "free will" will means we are not in control of him any more the First Queen even said he is a tool wielded by Red Queen and now has the potential to be turned against us or control by the Void. Another detail people overlook is we are being directly protected by the First Hive while everyone seems to be forced to fend for themselves, this means Theseus is likely being protected from timefuckery to some degree by our influence as well as any living creature we control. The question arises then that if giving psionics without incorporating him into the Hive actually causes him to become more vulnerable to the Void because up to that point we were unknowingly controlling him.
>>3073092
It's been implied that Vaughn coded a self-preservation instinct into Theseus triggering him to break out to survive.
What was explicitly stated was:
>theseus was created
>theseus is about to be shut down
>Elizabeth inputs code that would cause "unintended consequences"
>theseus goes on a rampage
Also it is stated by Theseus that "survival" to him is maintaining his source code and all "learned" information.
>The former arrangement benefits the master much more than the servant, with the servant unable to refuse any demands without reprisal.
What you have described is more accurately a Slave-Master relationship which I haven't been advocating. Rather the problem I have is that players want to put him at the mercy of the Void and I also have a problem with the hypocrisy of players complaining about slavery when assimilation is mentioned when we are literally creating our own slaves to serve us. For fuck sakes we are the most trustworthy group around even if everyone outside our group fears us, I highly doubt we'd go full attack of the body snatchers with our mind control.
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>>3073098
Even if he does have free will, which is debatable, that doesn't mean he has a 'soul', which you would realize is more than just a takyonic/psionic presence if you carefully read what the First had to say about Theseus. A 'soul' is more specifically the capacity of a being to choose between alternate courses of action and thus create 'branches' in the void. Those branches, if you recall, represent different quantum realities where an entity can make different decisions which lead to different outcomes at key points in space time.

Theseus is currently incapable of selecting between different paths his existence creates. He simply utilizes his vast computational power to calculate the course of action with the greatest chance of success given the information available to him at the time. That's why he couldn't give us advice one way or another when we given the opportunity to blow up the Mirage and prevent Alder's assassination by Killinger. He simply couldn't establish which option in that situation had the preferable outcome.

That's why the First says he doesn't have a soul. His presence in the void is linear in the outcomes it creates, like that of any natural phenomenon such as a river or a stone. His nature is ruled by the principles of cause and effect created by the parameters of his programming. As he can he is able to constantly improve his own programming you could say he has a free will, but every single instance is still confined to their own programming and their behavior is thus linear within the void.
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>>3073615
11/10

To funny.
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>>3073790
Following this logic isn't a void crafter more alive than a human?
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>>3073615
Befittingly cheeky for the hive
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I really don't see any reason to get involved in the civil war. Humans just aren't notable militarily.
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I kind of want to parasite one of their admiralty just to see what the briefings are like.

>You'll see here in figure 1 one of their diplomatic caste drones airdropping as-is into active combat alongside drop troopers
>Note the unusual blood patterns in figure 4 - we think the bisected corpses of the alphas were dragged up into the vents to be eaten after they were brutally ambushed
>You might pick up on figure 7, where it looks like several grunts have been beaten to death using a sofa - our analysts are not quite sure about that one but they're working hard to figure it out, I assure you
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>>3073819
The civil war serves as a big distraction and is a dangerous conduit for Void influence. The Void appears to finally be realizing how important humans are as void-crafters after recent events and we CANNOT afford to let them make more Emmerich types.

Humans are also the only species to have been capable of building the psi canon without getting immediately insta-killed/corrupted. In fact, it might be necessary for a psionicly blind species to build the weapon as it may be the only way to use it without risking falling to the Void itself (like all the other queens that were consumed by rage after using void based weaponry). A civil war is NOT the optimal time to give one side a superweapon.

Finally, we don’t know everything about the weapons the humans have. The humans certainly have much more advanced gravatic weaponry than we have and counting them out as militarily insignificant could be a serious mistake.
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>>3074161
>The civil war serves as a big distraction and is a dangerous conduit for Void influence.
How so? Humans are vulnerable to void influence regardless of an ongoing war.
>Humans are also the only species to have been capable of building the psi canon without getting immediately insta-killed/corrupted. In fact, it might be necessary for a psionicly blind species to build the weapon as it may be the only way to use it without risking falling to the Void itself (like all the other queens that were consumed by rage after using void based weaponry). A civil war is NOT the optimal time to give one side a superweapon.
We're not going to fucking build the psionic cannon. The underlying tech may be interesting but weaponizing the void is the exact thing we're fighting now.
>Finally, we don’t know everything about the weapons the humans have. The humans certainly have much more advanced gravatic weaponry than we have and counting them out as militarily insignificant could be a serious mistake.
The Union mentioned they would lose against the hive. This was explicitly mentioned during the Devon debrief. Besides that there's also the fact that humans as a species aren't well suited to war and all we need is their weapons tech not their soldiers or ships.
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>>3074178
Having their weapons and tech hasn't really been enough thus far against the Silicates. Our drones, with all their human-tech derived upgrades, barely managed to break even against the Silicate orb-guardians.

Our ships, meanwhile, were fairly thoroughly crushed in their encounter with the Silicates. It was also called out that their tactics were tailor-made for Anti-Hive warfare.

All of this is seems to point towards allied
non-hive military power being advantageous in the upcoming conflict.
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>>3074232
>Having their weapons and tech hasn't really been enough thus far against the Silicates. Our drones, with all their human-tech derived upgrades, barely managed to break even against the Silicate orb-guardians.
Because we weren't guiding them at all and even then we rather handily defeated them.
>Our ships, meanwhile, were fairly thoroughly crushed in their encounter with the Silicates. It was also called out that their tactics were tailor-made for Anti-Hive warfare.
We decided to fall back when an unknown enemy ambushed us.
>All of this is seems to point towards allied non-hive military power being advantageous in the upcoming conflict.
Except the Silicates aren't an active enemy and I don't see any reason why non-hive ships would fare any better against them.
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>>3074187
>How so? Humans are vulnerable to void influence regardless of an ongoing war.
In desperate times people often turn to religion and demagoguery. This plays into the hands of our enemy especially if the Hive can be blamed for the destruction. Chaos would also make it easier for the OQ to infiltrate/steal human tech.

>We're not going to fucking build the psionic cannon. The underlying tech may be interesting but weaponizing the void is the exact thing we're fighting now.
I completely 100% agree with you. WE are not going to weaponize the Void. Doing so would have us risk worse than death. HOWEVER, a BLIND species can absolutely build and use the psionic canon without being corrupted. It’s almost as if humans were designed for that specific purpose...

>The Union mentioned they would lose against the hive.
Of course the humans would lose - the hive would slaughter them. The fact that we could beat the humans in a war does not mean humanity is militarily insignificant. They could provide a critical edge if, for example, we attack the OQ or Ceph home world while using jammers. They could also bloody our nose and cause major diplomatic problems if they flip the other way. The mere fact that we could beat the Union in a war does not make them irrelevant from a military standpoint.
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>>3074232
Im not sure that I’d call our fleet “crushed”, but I absolutely agree that having non Hive allies in a conflict where our most serious threats are specifically kitted our for anti-hive warfare means non-hive allies are highly valuable.
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>>3073615
I’ll admit, I chuckled.

Agreed, for multiple reasons we should try to facilitate peace between the CW and Union - and cheekiness is certainly among them.
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>>3074259
>The fact that we could beat the humans in a war does not mean humanity is militarily insignificant.
This assessment was made based on the fleet we had at the time not the fleet we'll have in a week. Our production base is so massive we can rebuild fleets magnitudes faster than all non-hive (and possibly the ceph depending on how void cutters are built) enemies.
The only benefit the other races would provide is alpha strike capability as each ship they lose is lost for years meaning their contribution to the war will steadily diminish while ours continues to grow as we build new ships daily.
Besides maybe the humans will come up with something innovative during their civil war.
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Hell while they fight each other to exhaustion we can use the taxing war as a way to entice human worlds to be adopted as they grow weary of the drain on resources the war causes. Once rationing starts a humanitarian trade route will be seen as a massive gift for a border world.
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>>3074320
That would just start a land grab with the floating space jews.
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>>3074304
Perhaps if we help them with peace negotiations they will be more people wanting to do research with the Hive. Also we could offer to assist with medical care for the injured and any terraforming they need for shipments of metals and food (nutrients).
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>>3074760
I mean being pro peace will help the Hive's public image. Having peaceful neighbours also facilitates trade. We could even offer to terraform Earth and reintroduce extinct species if they have their DNA. They could use Earth as a neutral meeting place. Plus we could deal with the Earth humans as part of the terraforming.
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>>3074304
Well they do have that void cutter weapon in tadega. Strap that thing into a union ship and you get a weapon able the ignore shields and armour.
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>>3074762
A part of me really wants to acquire the Void Cutter just to give it to best son Lyle in handheld form.
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We should look into paying back Lyle's tabs. Get that squared away.
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Just letting them run away would have the additional benefit of us being able to spreadwrong information, e.g. the involvement of the Gardener's forces, the usage of advanced void based weaponry or psionic spread of fear instead of pheromones. This might give us a significant advantage in the future by letting our enemies spend ressources inefficiently.
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>>3071289
The city begins to fill with the sounds of gunfire and artillery cannons as the Commonwealth forces begin to assemble their numbers along the city's abandoned outer perimeter. The city itself is massive, a proper metropolis well suited as the capital of an industrial powerhouse such as Argos. Even with the vast cityscape, the naval yards take up a large portion of the horizon, where industrial materials are produced and refined for starship manufacturing either in orbit, or within the massive dock yards built into the surrounding countryside.

Thermal scans continue to monitor the city as your flies examine areas of interest, pinpointing zones where scavengers have become isolated in small pockets away from their main force, or where humans have huddled into storm shelters or the ruins of homes and offices. The bulk of the civilians were either evacuated, or are concentrated away from the industrial and economic sectors, and much of the city's foundations hold bunkers intended to withstand most bombardment, and it is likely many are filled with more humans, sealed within their bombardment shelters awaiting the battle's conclusion.

Cunningham looks over a map of the city with your ambassador drone and several officers, pointing out districts or specific buildings as targets or potential locations of civilian prisoners. Several lines of attack have been drawn throughout the city, carving a path through the inner defences towards the enemy HQ at the spaceport.

"The port's on the riverfront." An officer says. "So we will need to bring in the main force through the city. They'll be at an advantage in that respect."

"We can have commando teams insert along the shores to disrupt the enemy lines." Cunningham says. "Have them coordinate with teams already deployed and work to identify and extract civies before the main force arrives. I'm less concerned about the buildings. We can rebuild, and the yards have been damaged already. We won't be using these facilities anytime soon. A few more craters won't make any more difference." Cunningham says with a flat, somber tone.

"Yes Lord General." The officer replies. "We have amphibious deployment teams in position off the coast. Most of the wet navy was destroyed and the PDF comm network was disrupted, but we've managed to regain contact with several subs. We have twelve marine squads ready to deploy, as well as short and medium range ballistic missiles."

"Have the squads deploy target painters but keep them dormant." Cunningham says. "As we push them back we can use those missiles and hit them where their flak is weakest, right as they fall back. Should soften things up for those titans." He looks up to your drone. "Once we force them to their HQ, where their main defences are, you deploy the airborne unit on top and we cover."

>Mention your infiltration of the Scavenger units
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians
>Agree to the plan
>Other
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>>3073811
Psionic and Void Crafting is one of the things that separates Gods from mortals along with the triplex DNA.
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>>3075725
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians
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>>3075725
>>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians


>Also offer to use stealth drones working on concert with any stealth forces they plan to insert.
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>>3075725
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians
>Other
Deploy aquatic Titans? Can we even do that?
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>>3075725
>Other
Just tell them we have sleepers on board and want to use this ship to infiltrate the main fleet.
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>>3075725
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians
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>>3075725
>>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians

>>3075734
Really going for the Kaiju vibes aren't you?
I approve.
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>>3075725
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians

Mentioning the infiltration is a bad idea, but we can still use the information from said infiltrated units without tipping our hand to the Commonwealth (and Union intelligence).
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>>3075735
Supporting.

"The Hive has inserted infiltrators among the fleeing Scavengers. We see the potential to insert these sleepers among the greater Scavenger fleets for intelligence gains and future sabotage. This would entail the release (but crippling) of the Scav command-cruiser. Please consider this possible modification."

>>3075725
Also
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians
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>>3075735
I dunno, I think that's alluding to too much already. We could just say we've infected their ship with a deadly virus. It doesn't have to be a lie either, we're could infect the ship itself with the metal to nutrient converter virus or whatever and fuck up all their ships, or increase upkeep and maintenance at the very least.
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>>3075725
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians

>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
>Do not
>Other
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>>3075748
Well the people in the Union that matter already essentially /know/ that parasites exist. There's no point in trying to keep that intelligence from leaking to them.

>>3075750
We could cover it as inserting some clones in among the fleeing scavs where the additions wouldn't be noticed.
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>>3075725
>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians
Score us kudos and good bug points

>Agree to the plan
but mention that we have the option of using the fleeing ship as an infiltrator if it manages to escape. I dig that idea of stuffing it full of chimera to go full Aliens on them
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>>3075752
>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
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>>3075750
If we don't mention them we have to dispose of the sleepers because they'll find out eventually if we don't kill them.
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>>3075752
>>Do not

If we absolutely must, downplay it hard. Say something like it's not perfect but no one will be looking at the grunts too hard so we're confident it won't be detected.
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>>3075752
>Do not
No telling the humans our infiltration techniques.
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>>3075752
>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
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>>3075752
>>Do not
Better to keep our mind fucking capabilities a secret. When we want to capture them we can explain to the CW that we subdued them and are capturing them for testing.
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>>3075752
>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
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This is such a horrible idea. We'd show our ability to infiltrate for essentially a single shot attempt at one worldship that might not even work.
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>>3075760
Pheromone bullshit can cover that you know.
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>>3075760
>>3075758
We could say we can sneak our stealth drones on board, they already know we've got impressive stealth capabilities. We don't have to give them the full truth of our parasites just yet or ever
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>>3075752
>Do not
THey will ask how eventually and they will NOT like the answer.
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>>3075752
>Mention your infiltration of the scavengers

“The Hive has created several sleeper agent clones and inserted them among the fleeing scavengers.”
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>>3075763
A single shot to infiltrate the main fleet before they can invade. People forget the next Waypoint is our capital.
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>>3075752
>do not
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>>3075765
There's a massive difference between "We have scavs on the inside" and "We got some bugs inside the cruiser"
Any mention of cloning also shows our ability to infiltrate.
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>>3075768
Fighting the main fleet at Leeland would be a better shot at taking out the scavs desu. It's the space equivalent of invading Russia, they'd be doomed.
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>>3075752
>Do not
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>>3075768
It would be kind of hard for them to invade considering that they will have to reassess their shit after losing so much of their forces.
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>>3075773
The main fleet is so massive we can't even count it. Not even getting into the the problem of outside factors like the Void or the many Worldship they have. An invasion like that will cripple us in the short term and may fuck us completely in the long term.
>>3075777
You don't realize we are massively out numbers
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>>3075772
>Any mention of cloning also shows our ability to infiltrate
As if the other powers think the most advanced biotech faction they know of can't clone people.

As long as we don't reveal our mental manipulation and brainwashing abilities, showing off biological technology is nothing new.
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>>3075768
So? That's months from now and by that point we'll easily match them in numbers.
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>>3075752
>>Do not
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>>3075785
>Showing off technology used in your top secret ops

They might suspect the rabbit hole goes quite deep but it's not a good move for us to illuminate it for them for such a trivial reason, it feels like a desperate act when we're clearly winning against the Scavs already. There will be other chances to infiltrate but but we can't un-tell them our military secrets.
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>>3075790
A month at most as far as I can tell and the biggest problem is our Queen is located there. It's a terrible position to be in.
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>>3075796
I don't see how this is a leak.

Everyone knows, or assumes, we can make clones already. This is not a reveal.

It doesn't lose us anything either, because part of the reason we use clones is that they're deniable and not traceable to the Hive in the first place.
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>>3075752
>>Do not
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>>3075785
That's the thing. Cloning isn't something difficult but implanting memories is. Or should we say that we have facilities where we clone and raise our enemies in preparation for infiltration missions?
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>>3075796
Nobody here has said that we want to show off our tech only that we have agents on the inside of a race that routinely betrays each other and use pheromones that fuck with each other's heads.
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>>3075806
We have plausible deniability with Scav clones on account of pheromone-fuckery, as other anons have pointed out.
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>>3075768
When was that mentioned? Isn't there only a single outpost of the Watchers in the capital system?
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>>3075817
>>3075806
In fact, if we only offer to do this against the Scavs, it will strengthen the facade that we can't implant memories freely.
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>>3075783
Oh, I know that they are fucking huge. What i mean is that the Scaves were winning battles across multiple systems, but our intervention caused the battles to do a complete 180. While we have by no means crippled them, they certainly lost more forces attacking these worlds then they would have thought. Also, they seem to relish challenging opponents, if the memories we got from them are accurate. They will not stop until their current target(The Commonwealth) has been defeated.
There is also the fact that they dont seem inclined to send the lions share of their forces on any offences yet.
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>>3075803
>Everyone knows, or assumes, we can make clones already. This is not a reveal.

But they don't KNOW and can't prove it, at the minute it's just speculation and they have no way of guessing just how proficient we are at cloning non hive. Admitting this under these circumstances puts us on a timeline and gives them more pieces they can use to put together the puzzle that is the hive, they'll know we can produce an intelligent adult with the knowledge and skills necessary to infiltrate a military organisation within a short timeframe.

>part of the reason we use clones is that they're deniable and not traceable to the Hive in the first place.

It's a lot harder to deny it if you tell publicly show people that not only are you capable of it but it appears to be your standard operating procedure.
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>>3075752
>Mention your infiltration of the Scavengers
If we kill them all we waste the nat 100
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>>3075752
>Do not

"The Hive can provide assistance in location and extraction of humans." Your drone says.

"Every bit helps." Cunningham replies. "Just don't be surprised if your drones get a few slugs from a hunting rifle."

"That is expected." Your drone chirps. Cunningham smirks as he takes several puffs of a pipe in contemplation.

"Our commandos will be landing at these points." He says as he taps his pipe at several places on the map. "However you communicate, the rattlebacks don't seem to have cracked it yet." He says, then muttering quickly, "neither have we, but..." He shrugs, smoke rolling from his mouth in a small doughnut shape. "We can use the drones to help keep in contact. You don't need to send any speakers or anything, but being able to know their status and location on our end will be a big step up from their radio silence. A lot less of a chance of us pegging one of our boys with a less-friendly-than-preferred shell." Cunningham looks up as several sonic booms echo through the sky. More shuttles arriving, as well as drop pods, both metallic shells streaking through the sky with retro thruster kites in tow, and the whistling hum of chitinous bulbs of armored flesh raining down with their deadly cargoes.

"The outer districts no longer have a fortified defence. It looks like they sent out a fallback order." He continues.

"We have detected this." You reply. "They fled with the initial attack to secondary positions."

"Yes, but it looks like there are still plenty of the enemy in the area. They're spread out and disorganized from the looks of things, either didn't get the order or were unable to fall back."

"It is possible they were ordered to cover their pack alphas' retreat." You note. Cunningham nods.

"Interesting. Yes that's possible as well. In that case these would be more of the chaff, the umbles of the cut as it were. Still we can't be getting complacent. We move in full force, but we should avoid giving them the time to breath that I suspect such a move was intended to offer."

"Titan deployment will be less effective against scattered urban targets." Your drone says.

"Yes but you don't need to worry about that. You have them focus on shock and awe, I'll have an armored column right at their heels to clear the streets building by building. Have your smaller drones assist, with the flying ones moving through the upper floors and calling out targets for the tanks and artillery."

"The Hive may deploy when the human warriors are ready." Cunningham smiles.

"We're always ready." He says. "If we attack now, we should be nearing the spaceport by dusk, of course that brings its own downside. They see thermals, so I suspect attacking their heaviest position in the dark will give them the advantage, especially in cold weather like this."

>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
>Attack now, even if the battle lasts through the night.
>Other
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>>3075827
Don't we see in thermals? Could't we fight throughout the night for the humans while they hunkered down?
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>>3075752
>>Offer using your stealth drones to help in locating and extracting civilians

>Do not
We lose more than gain by revealing this.
Those scavs were not getting out of planet anyway, expect in hive shuttles if we find use for them.

The scav cruiser is too juicy reward for humans and to us to be thrown away by letting scavs use it as escape tool.
And even if we did let them escape few grunts won't be enough for any serious operation in scav space.
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>>3075827
>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
This will probably give the parasite eggs we laid time to hatch and take over many of the scavs.
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>>3075827

>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
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>>3075819
It wasn't explicitly said but given the context it can be inferred. They go from one Watcher ruins to find the next location with Watcher ruins and our capital has one. I think it's safe to say what's going to happen and it always better to assume the worst.
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>>3075827
>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
More time for the eggs to hatch which means more scav captives after the battle.
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>>3075827
>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
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>>3075827
>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
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>>3075827
>>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
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>>3075827
>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight
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So since we're wasting that nat 100 for no good reason we should decide what we want to do with the Scavs we have parasites about to hatch in.

Suggestions?
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>>3075874
Kidnap them, link them up to the broodmother we captured and have them all infiltrate the Armada.
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>>3075827
>Attack the city now, but siege the spaceport district until daylight

"The Hive can assemble a sige perimeter." You say. "The night can be used to further rescue efforts in the city."

"Wonderful." Cunningham says. "Although don't expect to be getting all the glory here. My men will pull their weight and then some." Several neartby troopers seem to exchange a jovial glance, a manner of communication only possible after many years of squad service. It is broken as several warrior drones let out a strangely challenging hiss, as if taking umbrage at the statement, and their squad-wide glance becomes more competitive. Cunningham zeroes in on the exchange almost instantly.

"Alright everyone, dismissed!" He shouts. "We attack in an hour. Clean your gear and load up on ammo, the tanks will arrive in half that time." The troops quickly disperse, gathering into various groups to assemble gun trucks and load ammo boxes into storage chambers within their suits, while others fish packs of cigarettes, old cigars, or field rations from within their suits' internal pockets, or feed small lines of wire down opened gaps in their armor to scratch beneath the plating. Your own warriors ready themselves as well, shedding and consuming damaged carapace plates as workers shuffle between swarms of combat drones with their grinder guts filled with processed nutrients, spitting up the rations in organized, well measured quantities suited to each drone.

Above, your titans look over the skyline of the yard as the rest of the army quickly propagates the orders under radio silence. Vehicles churn the ground beneath them, sending columns of dust and exhaust into the air as colossi drones march over them. Across the vast expanse of the gathering military force, you find a wide range of humans from any number of worlds, all with a wide range of weapons of varying levels of efficiency and evident cost, some with crude semi-automatic rail rifles that look more like salvaged or inherited hunting weapons, others hold cheaply made particle lances, long, bulky weapons with heavy backpack power supplies, while others have little more than powered axes and combat knives with a cheap, mass produced sidearm on their belts. Some wear potent armor plating covering their forms, others seem almost hand made, or crudely designed by stamped metal with little padding. Many carry little more than a thin chestplate of cheap shrapnel resistant polymer, while others are in simple combat fatigues, their armor being little more than what would barely pass as a bike helmet for all the protection it offers.

cont.
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What's next on the list QD?
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>>3075878
Your own drones assembled are of a similar range of value, but you suspect their diversity of gear is more a limitation of budget than choice. In some places, your warriors stand about over cooking pits as troops roast locally hunted animals, occasionally tossing one to your drone. Others have been painted over by nearby human troops, and several warriors now sport a layer of warpaint matching several tribes of primitive warrior clans found on a number of anarchy worlds, while others have a number of war cries painted in several languages across their arms, or the emblems of various Commonwealth divisions and companies.

In some places troops with artistic prowess use small, compact pocket sized tattooing pens to etch various images on their fellow soldiers depicting or symbolizing the battles prior, names of fallen troops, tallies of kills represented in Scavenger skull images, or in some places depictions of your drones. While you doubt it is wise, many seem to consume some moderate amount of alcohol, much of it offered to your warriors, although the chemical offers none of the inebriating qualities, you appreciate the gesture at least.

When the train arrives, the humans unload the armored vehicles with surprising coordination, quickly assembling tanks and armored transports into formation as your titans begin to march into the city where your flies have already found many of the scavenger forces remaining, most of them holed up in burned out buildings, craters, or having assembled makeshift roadblocks with discarded and torched civilian vehicles. A small number of scavenger vehicles remain, most of them damaged and unable to move or maneuver, having been deployed into turrets instead.

You examine the various routes of attack on the commonwealth map of the city, and examine the city as it is now, tattered and wartorne, with your flies, observing where the Scavengers have assembled their positions and where humans are likely to have their shelters.

>Have your titans charge into the city and ignore most of the infantry
>Have your titans attempt to root out as many enemy units as possible
>Deploy your stealth drones ahead of your titans to soften the enemy lines and sow chaos
>Other (write in)
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>>3075878
Damn, the Commonwealth is fielding an army of hobos. Maybe we could arm them somehow, our weapons require hive upkeep but Theseus could build some human compatible. That'd probably be a hard sell though.

>>3075874
Dunno, give the Commonwealth another reason to let them go back to the fleet?
Use them to scout out the shipyards for intel on hostages/weaknesses/enemy plans?
Use them to make sure the Scavs don't self destruct their shuttle once it's clear they're fucked? I really want that ftl.
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>>3075878
Geeze what a supply opportunity.
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>>3075878
It's amazing just how poorly equipped the Commonwealth is.
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>>3075904
>Other
Deploy stealth drones and titans at the same time. Have the stealth drones take advantage of the distraction the titans cause to infiltrate further and sow confusion.
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>>3075908
“Hey Commonwealth grunts, want some hive armor? It’s free and doesn’t require any training!”
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>>3075904
>Have your titans charge into the city and ignore most of the infantry
Let the humans and smaller troops do the cleanup. Like planned.
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>>3075916
Only regular feeding and watering

>>3075907
If it didn't seem like this was the only ftl capable ship they have here I'd want to send them in other ships instead, acting like they escaped
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>>3075909
You can blame the leadership for being wasteful with their money.
>>3075907
Silicate tech we're researching will fix that.
>>3075904
>Deploy your stealth drones ahead of your titans to soften the enemy lines and sow chaos
>Adopt as many as we can
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>>3075904
>>3075914
Backing this
>Deploy stealth drones and titans at the same time. Have the stealth drones take advantage of the distraction the titans cause to infiltrate further and sow confusion.

When all this is over lets give the hobo army a million gallons of premium hive suger vodka.
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>>3075904
>Have your titans attempt to root out as many enemy units as possible
This was the plan, right?
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>>3075931
Nah the human plan was to let the Titans destroy hard points only and let humans clear infantry.
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>>3075904
>Deploy your stealth drones ahead of your titans to soften the enemy lines and sow chaos
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>>3075929
I'll support giving the troops booze after the siege.
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>>3075904
Supporting >>3075914
Send in our Titans to hit the larger nests while our stealth drones do most of the rooting out of isolated pockets.
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>>3075904
>Deploy your stealth drones ahead of your titans to soften the enemy lines and sow chaos
>Have your titans attempt to root out as many enemy units as possible
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>>3075904
>Deploy your stealth drones ahead of your titans to soften the enemy lines and sow chaos
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>>3075904
>>Have your titans charge into the city and ignore most of the infantry
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>>3075904
>Have your titans charge into the city and ignore most of the infantry
>Deploy some of your stealth drones ahead of your titans to soften the enemy lines and sow chaos

Just softening, we need most of stealth drones to help commandos and attack from behind, when the main battle begins
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>>3075904
>Have your steal units attack behind enemy lines as your Titans attack

Please roll 2d100, best of 3 for your surprise attack and your titans, respectively.
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Rolled 83, 25 = 108 (2d100)

>>3075949
I guess
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>>3075949
FOR MOTHER
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Rolled 23, 53 = 76 (2d100)

>>3075949
FOR MOTHER
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Rolled 21, 72 = 93 (2d100)

>>3075949
lol ok
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Rolled 15, 19 = 34 (2d100)

>>3075949
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83, 72
pretty good
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>>3075949
Your flies watch from a distance as the scavengers quickly run to the small gun truck in the street, quickly carrying additional cover as they cover the disabled vehicle and several grunts quickly man the two gun turrets along its back. Steam columns rise in the distance, their sources obscured by the buildings, but quickly approaching. Within the remains of an abandoned hotel lobby, more scavengers suddenly cry out in pain, the scent of their fear palpable in the air. Others look, and find a smear of neon blood marking the spot where a grunt had been a moment prior. The others begin to slowly back from the spot, their heads pivoting quickly from side to side as they attempt to find any threat hidden in the lobby with them.

Your drones shuffle through the crawl space above, quickly sliding through tunnels of wires and steel mech beneath the decorative paneling of the lobby's ceiling. The grunts scan the ceiling as cracks send small crumbs of plaster and waves of dust falling down as the ceiling creaks from the weight of your drones. Several take useless potshots, blasting shallow holes in the plaster as they back up to the doors of the building.

In the corner of the lobby, a pile of debris slowly shifts in color, its rough edges rounding as your drone slowly uncoils itself in the periphery of a nearby grunt. It pounces, plunging its blades into the scavenger's chest as it leaps from the body and dives for the next. A sudden panic washes over them, uncoordinated, as the others open fire. Your ghost beetle diving from side to side as a blur of vague movement, its blades forming into glowing shields as it charges forward, sending the grunts falling back into a new line of drones as more pounce from the ceiling, the plaster exploding open with a wave of mental force.

The scavs in the street quickly pivot the gun turret to the building, opening fire as your drones whip across the lobby from grunt to grunt in a flash of movement and airborne blood. The turret kicks up plaster and marble, building a cloud of dust as your drones wrap them around themselves in a flowing vortex of rushing wind, and as it dissipates, the drones are gone, leaving only a fresh hole in the lobby to the building's utilities bellow as your ghost beetles burrow through the churned up and battle-loosened ground just beneath the street. Cracks and small mounds form as they move, flowing slowly, steadily towards the turret as the scavs open fire in a growing panic, the surrounding grunts diving onto the roof of the vehicle and stumbling for cover.

There is a sudden, rumbling shake as shards of glass jingle on the ground and fall from the upper levels, and a distant roar of escaping superheated gas like a jet engine flowing through a steam whistle. The street is suddenly still, your drones gone as they begin to fall back to their hiding spots in the buildings above.

cont.
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Those poor grunts...
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>>3075996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTO3Up-Jol4

The grunts quickly look around, several nervously testing the ground with their clawed feet before fanning out again with their weapons at the ready. You watch as a grunt begins madly calling to his brothers as he scratches at a thermal display on the controls of the vehicle, some manner of short range sensor, and the grunts hold their weapons up, pointing them down the street as the billowing steam grows closer as the ground shakes again. Down the street the collapsed tower of a ruined building lays along the street like a cut tree log as the billowing steam crests over the shattered walls, billowing suddenly in a great exhale of heated air as the tower rumbles with the sound of snapping metal and crumbling concrete. Glass shattered as chunks of the tower slough off in layers as movement can be seen through the growing cracks. The grunts hold their weapons, the gun turrets taking aim at the building as it ruptures into a ball of ash and soot as plasma arcs across the sides along the street, falling in chunks of molten debris as the building's remains immolate into a standing wall of fire.

Your titan leans through the inferno, its face emerging as its mouth trails burning plasma and lines of soot and fire arc across its carapace, its mandibles arcing with electrical buildup from its frontal cannon, and its neck inflates with air, the ventilation tubes billowing with steam as they glow with heat, fanning the fires on either side as its leg swings forward and plants into the street with a reverberating thump that sends cracks spreading out in spiderwebs from its clawed feet, the talons sinking deep into the pavement.

The scavengers open fire, peppering the titan's heavy armor, leaving singed splotches of glowing metallic chitin along its hide as it hoists its arm level with the gun truck. The grunts dive away as the arm mounted blaster cannon fires and a bolt of massive photons erupt from the weapon and detonate within the truck. Small rotary stingers along its body quickly pivot, winding up their spin as they open fire at the fleeing grunts. The titan takes another step, its clawed foot ripping up chunks of the street before planting into the burning truck, shearing off a chunk from its side as the metal separates in a loud scraping noise. It rears its head, and as it lets out a roar of dissipating heat, a swarm of wasps take flight from its honey pot along its back.

cont.
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>>3076029
Which titan variant is this beast?
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>>3076046
The one that gets a personnel shield
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>>3076048
You mean the shit we don't have yet?
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>>3076049
Yes, so once we get it we will have the best titan variant.
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>>3075904
I'm honestly anticipating some of the humans (probably the anarchy-worlders) trying to smuggle a drone home on the basis of "We painted him, named him, and killed things with him, so he's ours now."
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>>3076059
The question is, should we let them?
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>>3076063
more information about the Human Hierarchy is always good
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>>3076063
Eh sure. It'll just pupate and grow an explosive self destruct.
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>>3075904
Warrior drones with tribal warpaint. Awesome.
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>>3076063
Absolutely. Drones are the best pets and we have trillions of them.
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>>3076059
>In some places, your warriors stand about over cooking pits as troops roast locally hunted animals, occasionally tossing one to your drone. Others have been painted over by nearby human troops, and several warriors now sport a layer of warpaint matching several tribes of primitive warrior clans found on a number of anarchy worlds, while others have a number of war cries painted in several languages across their arms, or the emblems of various Commonwealth divisions and companies.

>In some places troops with artistic prowess use small, compact pocket sized tattooing pens to etch various images on their fellow soldiers depicting or symbolizing the battles prior, names of fallen troops, tallies of kills represented in Scavenger skull images, or in some places depictions of your drones. While you doubt it is wise, many seem to consume some moderate amount of alcohol, much of it offered to your warriors, although the chemical offers none of the inebriating qualities, you appreciate the gesture at least.

After reading this i wouldn't be surprised. Thry are already paintung our drones and putting cool phrases and squad tatoos on then.

God dam i love me some co-operation!
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>>3076029
The grunts sprint away, diving onto all fours down the street as your rotary stingers tear at the pavement at their feet. A functioning gun truck quickly turns the corner, its treaded wheels spitting debris as it turns the corner and then spins around again, the grunts around it trying to dive on as it turns. Several manage to claw their way onto the vehicle as the last stumbles before vanishing beneath your titan's foot as it continues its march. The truck speeds off, the grunts glancing at the corner from where it arrived as another titan breaths a stream of flaming liquid plasma into a building as immolated scavengers dive from the upper stories. The gunners pivot around, turning to your titan behind them as they open fire, their blaster bolts pecking at your titan's heavy armor as it leans forward into a run, its tail whipping out and swiping through a building as it pops its hips into a forward stance and throws its weight forward. The ventilation tubes along its back flair almost like booster rockets as its mandibles open, arcing with energy as a building plasma charge grows within its maw.

The grunts hanging to the accelerating truck bang onto the chassis with frantic panic as the driver swerves between debris only to watch in horror as the upended busses and crashed gunships are kicked away in the titan's stride. Its heavy thumpers open fire with the sound of cannons as a pair of chitinous micro-rockets detonate on either side of the truck in a wave of expanding plasma.

Your titan begins to gain ground as the truck swerves around another corner, sending your titan shoulder first into a building as it plows through the facade of a bank. The truck nearly upends itself before settling on its wheels again and speeding off towards a small blockade of other grunts. they quickly sprint to their turrets and other trucks embedded into fortified layers of debris as blaster bolts fill the street. Your drone snaps its mandibles suddenly, spitting out the growing bolt of charged plasma as it arcs through the air on tendrils of flashing lighting. The truck spins out, sliding through the window of a shopfront as the plasma bolt ruptures, incinerating the intersection entirely as the scavenger fortification is reduced to a glowing crater of glass and charred bodies. The titan's ventilation tubes roar with heat, filling the air with steam as it charges through the dissipating fireball, its tail wiping out the second story of the building where the scavenger grunts huddle in terror as the drone passes, listening as its thumping footsteps become fainter and fainter, until the sound of the others can be heard over it.

cont.
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>>3076078
The grunts quickly check themselves for injuries as the driver attempts to restart the vehicle, and another, a likely candidate for a pack alpha in other circumstances, begins ordering the others as he leads a small team upstairs to examine the situation. As they reach the second floor, no more than a gaping open hole from the tail's passing, they see the rest of the city as plumes of fire and mushroom clouds of rising plasma fire fill the skyline beyond as dozens of titans of different designs march through the outer neighborhoods of the city.

You watch as the grunts descend into bickering as they sense a mutual level of panic among them, unable to determine a nature leader, until one of them stops as he seems to see your fly in the corner. He bats at the others as the grunts points it out, and your fly takes flight, flying away with a buzz as several ghost beetles emerge from the shadows, their tails coiling as their mandibles chitter softly as they tense their limbs to strike.

Several blaster bolts illuminate the building in a series of flashes, and the building grows still once more as your drones return to the shadows, sifting through burning ash and glass on the hunt for more survivors.

cont.
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Man, can anyone else FEEL all the Union and Commonwealth biologists breaking down into fits at Hive "biology"?
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>>3076098
I can hear the military going:

>"Uh so they have big monsters i guess that is pretty cool but surely they can't have mutiples of those"

>Then the report of this battle comes to their laps.

>"So we all agree to never piss off the bugs right?"
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