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Gemini space is a chorus of incomprehensible radio chatter. Distress signals and the static of leaking reactors or detonated warheads ring out across local orbit like bells in your ears, drowning out all meaning. Your fleet orbits the planetary system in rapid sweeps, scanning for any remains from the battle. Bellow, panic takes hold. The streets are nearly empty as most have fled to shelters or basements, or even storm drains, while those who remain clash with police as local lawn enforcement drive out looters and rioters diving headlong into the apparent apocalypse.

The Capital district has been locked down, and local PDFs remain on high alert. The interior of the building seems nearly empty of non-military personnel, and entire sections have been sealed off and fallen away, with whole offices dropping down various emergency elevators to various emergency bunkers deep beneath the building.

The Valen embassy, on the other hand, is bustling with activity as shuttles stream in and out of their shuttle bay one after another and air cars swarm overhead in search for space to park.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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>>3025957
Poor Valen, we really should throw them a bone.
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>>3025957
I hope those Valen aren't dead.
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>>3025957
SUFFER NOT THE WHALE
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Weekly reminder

>Raid OQ
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Board and take over a scav world ship.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>3025970
Bring out the Rip drive and ask them if they want to form a monopoly.
>>3025976
They're really more like slugs or snail in how look. Seriously have you seen the artwork?
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>The Valen embassy, on the other hand, is bustling with activity as shuttles stream in and out of their shuttle bay one after another and air cars swarm overhead in search for space to park.

Ah! Even the whales reconized that the sagest place now is near our embassy. The bugs just routes a Void Cutter war raid!
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>>3025978
Yeah but we have being calling then whales a looooong time. Besides if Kissinger can call then gators the Hive can call the Valen Whales.
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>>3025978
They're whales with good variety.
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>>3025957
My Favorite part of the week!
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>>3025978
It won't be a monopoly if we're doing it too.
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>>3025982
No you've been calling them "whales" or some other retarded shit pretty recently in quest. Crocs is older to anyone that's paid attention.
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>>3025994
Gators.
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>while those who remain clash with police as local lawn enforcement drive out looters and rioters diving headlong into the apparent apocalypse.

Doing the smash and grab...for mother
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>>3026002
Right.
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>>3025970
The bone is adoption with immortality and second heart included. The ultimate gift.
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>>3025994
It's gators. If you are going to try to rally something at least check the older threads. The old players have being calling the Valen whales since the start.
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>>3026009
>since the start
That's bullshit and what are you going to call the actual space whales?
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>>3025994
>>3026002
We've been calling them whales ever since we first came up with a nickname for them. A bit late to change them now.
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>>3025957
>looters and rioters diving headlong into the apparent apocalypse.

Agitation at 100%. The perfect cover for some Taidarens looting the nerve stapler and whatever expensive drugs are nearby.
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>>3025957
Elizabeth watches as the burning inferno parts as Emmerich walks through, his skin burnt and tattered as it tears and melts away seemingly without his notice. She glances to the table, where a small sidearm can be seen in the debris of the table's remains, having fallen from a broken drawer. She holds out her hand and the chitinous weapon flies into her hand, its inner working moving like animated finger bones as the flesh of the grip conforms to her hand and the small cluster above its barrel locks onto Emmerich's form, the barrel contorting by several fractions of a centimeter as it adjusts its aim.

She fires, pulling the trigger until the weapon runs out of munition mass as a rapid stream of small chitinous slugs puncture Emmerich's form with a burst of what almost looks like human blood. His skull snaps open with a loud ping, and ruby red and black fragments, like colored ice, shatter from within, quickly melting into soupy liquid that rapidly evaporates in the air.

cont.
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>>3026018
All according to the keikkaku. Keikaku mean plan
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>>3026023
Ouch.
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>>3026023
She fires, pulling the trigger as the weapon lets out a sudden, wet snapping noise of cracked bone and torn tendons, her finger already pulling it again as the barrel stutters in an attempt to expel the jammed slug within, and then bursts open into splinters of bone, meat, and metallic magnetic micro-rails. Elizabeth quickly holds out her hand and the weapon and its chunks are expelled towards Emmeric. His form contorts, diving into multiple places at once as dozens of Emmerichs are riddled with shrapnel and collapse dead only to vanish, until only one is left, untouched by the failed weapon.

The thinker cluster above suddenly comes alive with mental activity. Elizabeth looks up for a split moment, and back to Emmerich as he suddenly grabs his head in pain, his face twisting in several directions at once, as if a dozen images were suddenly out of synch with one another. A moment later, the room is at once filled with the screaming sensation of your psionic jammer, Elizabeth gripping her own head from the sudden pain. Emmerich suddenly charges, his body contorting as if viewed through the surface of choppy water. Elizabeth leaps into the air, gripping the ceiling with her weaver arms as Emmerich leaps up after her, and suddenly falls the rest of the way, as if gravity were reversed, landing on the ceiling just as she lashes out her claws, her arms stretching the distance like a whip and raking across his face, carving deep beneath the flesh and tearing off a chunk of skin.

cont.
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>>3026017
>A bit late to change them now.
>implying it's ever too late to discard a shit meme
>>3026025
Or a thoroughly dead one in this case. Seriously who uses this anymore? The Death Note memes should have all died with the english remake.
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>>3026056
Dam Liz...so proud of our girl.
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>>3026056
Emmerich leaps up after her, and suddenly falls the rest of the way, as if gravity were reversed, landing on the ceiling just as she lashes out her claws, her arms stretching the distance like a whip as Emmerich falls back, the razor-like claws missing his face by several centimeters, and Emmerich's body seems to contort in a way that isn't quite visible, his form sliding up from the ceiling to stand on it as if it were the floor, with even his hair and tattered clothes hanging off in the correct direction.

There is something off about his face, a strange scar along his cheek, but not a scar, more like a festering wound, but at the same time his face is the same, the images seemingly overlaid atop one another as his body continues to ripple and errode.

>Have Elizabeth attack with her psionics
>Attempt to flee the lab and fall back
>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
>Send in Lyle
>Other (write in)
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>>3026076
>>Attempt to flee the lab and fall back
>>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
>>Send in Lyle
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>>3025957
I no longer know if my picture is still accurate, but considering that the void is concentrated psychic violence, Im going to continue posting it anyway.
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>>3026076
>Attempt to flee the lab and fall back
Tactical retreat
>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
Temporary backup
>Send in Lyle
"Hey Lyle, go punch a ghost."
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>>3026076
QD can psionics from multiple medium relays stack?
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So hey, remember how we voted NOT to send Seiner, the only other Void Crafter we know, after Emmerich to save Elizabeth so he can do his training?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1F4OduqrtQ

Do you want to
>A: go into a multidimensional wizard battle with a space demon >B: watch a rock from the start of time to the end of time?
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>>3026076

>Send in Lyle

I honestly have no good ideas here...
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>>3026076
>>Send in Lyle
Tell him he can get as drunk as likes for the rest of the concert if fucks this guy's shit up.
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>>3026076
>Send in Lyle

Hey lyle have you eber punched a ghost?
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>>3026076
So we still remember one of those undone timelines where he got scratched.
>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
>>Attempt to flee the lab and fall back

Let's see if there's a conservation of ninjitsu effect here.
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>>3026076
>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
>Send in Lyle
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>>3026076
>Send in Lyle
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>>3026103
>>3026099
Drones are a bad idea because of Void. But maybe Liz can take over some of the drones to fuck up with Emmerich.
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>>3026076
>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
>Send in Lyle

Okay, so Void Crafting is basically manipulating timelines so that the one with the best possible outcome for you comes out on top?

One solution is to basically spam damage everyfuckingwhere so that it gets harder for Emmerich to reach the spacetimebranch where he gets undamaged.
Ergo, shoot him a whole fuckign lot with area effect weapons

>>3026107
He's a void crafter not a psion.
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>>3026076
>Send in Lyle
He is our heaviest scariest warrior. Why would we NOT send him?!

LET THE CQC SLAMFEST BEGIN
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>>3026107
Have you never listened to what QD said about drones? NONQUEENS CAN'T CONTROL THEM
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>>3026107
Our drone's brains will melt before it allows the void to touch it. Remember Nowhere?
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>>3026091
>Send in Lyle
drones cant do anything
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>>3026112
Elizabeth is now so close to being a queen we can let her 'inherit drones' the same way we let the barren queen. Its not a good option, but it is an option anon.
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>>3026110
I remember him burning and freezing stuff with his mind. so i take he is both.
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>>3026076
>Attempt to flee the lab and fall back
>Send in drones to reinforce the situation
>Send in Lyle
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>>3026107
That's not how it works.

Vaughn is already there anyway, far more powerful in psionics than most drones.

There are already drones in all the walls, they are the walls, usually, in Infrastructure, they just can't fight.

Waitt where are the barnacles, those can attack. They're in the walls and ceilings.
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>>3026113
No i don't. I just rememebr the drones didn't worked when trying to close the hell gate.
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>>3026117
She's never been close to being a queen. Stop being deluded by your own lies.
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>>3026118
That was Elizabeth, the most I could remember him doing was turnong the table thrown at him into dust.
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>>3026117
That only works between closely related Queens, numbnuts.

Anyway, the only way to end this battle is to present a trap that has zero percent chance of escaping.

But he can just step around 3-dimensional obstacles...so hardlight projection trap entirely surrounding him isn't quite enough.
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>>3026127
You sure it was her? Maybe i read it wrong then.
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>>3026110
>One solution is to basically spam damage everyfuckingwhere so that it gets harder for Emmerich to reach the spacetimebranch where he gets undamaged.
>Ergo, shoot him a whole fuckign lot with area effect weapons

I JUST REALISED
THIS IS THE BAIN JOHNS FIGHT
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>>3026132
You could try using the dead shard on him but I have no idea what that would do.
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>>3026123
The drones where dying partly because of psionic interference from the void shard being forced open, partly from proximity to an open void shard.

>>3026134
DONT REMIND ME
FUCKING BAIN JOHNS
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>>3026134
Lyle. Get the dakka. All of it.
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>>3026140
It's on Leeland not here, but worse he might just steal the thing, which is irreplaceable.
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>>3026076
>Send in Lyle

Yeah the solution seems to be to harm him so many times that he runs out of possible paths
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>>3026076
Lyle halts in his tracks, a sudden realization of the situation washing over his mind. Jackob and Dillon turn around as he falls behind, the general impressions of the events unfolding washing over to Jackob as Lyle suddenly turns on his heel and charges down the hall. The other two chase after him with a mixture of concern and confusion as Lyle quickly builds up speed, his cybernetics carrying him far faster than any human could naturally run.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for Lyle's intervention.

>Have Elizabeth Fall back
>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab
>Other
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Rolled 98 (1d100)

>>3026167
For Mother
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Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>3026167
FOR MOTHER!

>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab
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Rolled 6 (1d100)

>>3026167
>>3026168
wow
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>>3026161
Nothing worse then a stalker ex following you around in a party.
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>>3026167
>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab

>>3026168
hahahahah for mother indeed
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>>3026167
Okay uh... funny thing, he reacted in the present to the psionic jammer being activated in the near future. He's using futuresight which makes him vulnerable to future-jamming.

Not seeing a way to exploit that though. Unless, hm. Well, what if we try a drone with the Siren adaptation? He sees all, hears all, sees the future. Make him see too much. Overwhelm his senses.

Or Vaughn escapes the range of psionic jamming behind suddenly closed psionic insulation wall, maybe. It will hit him before it hits her, giving her time to get behind the barrier and not get hit at all.
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>3026167
HELL NO, VOID WON'T GO
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>>3026168
Daaammmm...dynamic entry!
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>>3026168
Ghost Status: Punched
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>>3026167
>>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab

>>3026168
Mother loves all her children so very, very much.
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>>3026167
Adding to my vote >>3026168

>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab
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>>3026167
>>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab

I guess we don't have quite as much psionic insulation prepared elsewhere.

...Should we consult EchoMom in the white crystal archive to check for a 'how 2 fight void projection battle' manual?
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You guys do realize leaving Elizabeth in the lab alone leaves her vulnerable right?
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>>3026167
>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab

We still have subjects in the lab right? Need to make sure Emmerich won't infect anyone with his void fuckery and cause trouble to the hive.
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>>3026198
i think lyle's about to write the book
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>>3026167
>Have Elizabeth maintain her position in the psionically sealed lab

Please roll 1d100 for Elizabeth as Lyle gets there.
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>>3026210
You ain't paying too much attention, are you?
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>3026222
For Mother.
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Rolled 39 (1d100)

>>3026222
For Mother
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>3026222
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>3026222
DONT DIE ON US LIZZIE COME ON

For Mother
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Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>3026222
Alway bet on Mother!
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Elizabeth Status: More than one piece.
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>>3026223
The rolls say otherwise.
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Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>3026224
>>3026225
>>3026232
>>3026233
>>3026234
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Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>3026222
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Boy i sure am glad we gave Liz a parasite.
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The Dice are forsaking us
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>>3026237
Eh she has a parasite and we don't lack healling pods inside the resort.
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There's nothing you can do Elizabeth
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>>3026251
Maybe you shouldn't vote to have her stay in the same room as a guy with timefuckery.
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>>3026251
She will be fine. A little bruised and needing some healling but the cavalary is getting close.
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Now that I think about it, maybe we get three rolls because of the void crafting that's been done in our favor?
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>>3026255
It's inevitable Ms. Vaugh.
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hears hoping that he doesn't have perma damage or something
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>>3026260
>bruised
>against temporal manipulation
You're underestimating how dangerous he is.
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>>3026269
She has a in build parasite that is as good as a healling tank and lots of cybernetics.

She may get trashed around a little bit but she will survive.
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>>3026258
If Emmerich is that bad with psionic insulation all around him restricting his movement somewhat, imagine how worse it would be if he wasn't impeded. That and and we do have a psionic jammer in the room to help Elizabeth.
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>>3026270
Yeah, this. A critfail could erase someone here. We're quite lucky it was at least above 50.
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>>3026270
And you are overestimating him.
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>>3026279
No one can be erased. That isn't how it works. Those branches where you were never born were already pruned.
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>>3026284
I'm not. Time manipulation even when limited is pretty overpowered.
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>>3026291
I don't mean that he'd be going backwards to do it you silly goose.
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>>3026279
>>3026291
>>3026300
Void Craft time manipulation can't change the past, but it manipulates what possible future outcomes will happen.

Right now I think Emmerich is both trying to physically fight Elizabeth while fucking with the timelines to make sure he comes out on top.
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>>3026300
As the events thus far have very well demonstrated, the extent to which he'll be able to warp things will be impeded by things like psionic jamming, being set on fire, and having his head shot off, all of which Elizabeth is capable of.
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>>3026314
>having his head shot off
That didn't happen in -this- timeline. It was an echo.
In this timeline the gun jammed and exploded
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>>3026311
>even when limited
I know void crafting can't manipulate the past only the present and future. I'm saying it's still broken shit even if it's limited to just "possible" futures.
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>>3026311
that's exactly what he's doing seiner said as much last thread
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>>3026314
His head wasn't really shot off in the timeline he allowed to survive.

And has he ever disappeared entirely into the 4th dimension in this fight so far? Odd if he hasn't tried to teleport behind you yet.

Anyway, you need something undodgeable. Something that covers the entire room at once. If he's really avoiding leaving this 3-dimensional plane for some reason.
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>>3026342
Elizabeth tried that with the psionic spores+thermokinesis fireball combo
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It's easy to see what will happen. Liz gonna have her shit kicked by Emmerich and once Emmerich start to monologue Lyle will do a dynamic entry and kick him out of Liz.
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>>3026342
Oh i have a idea...we can just space him.
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>>3026327
>>3026314
Well we just need more guns, now don't we

>>3026332
>>3026342
The "manipulating outcomes" thing kinda relies on there being something to manipulate as well as how hard it is to reach that outcome given the circumstances at the time and place you're manipulating.

The one thing that we can do to counter that is reducing the chances of him dodging a hit to near zero. Which is why I advocated bringing in drones. More guns equals more chances to get hit and less chances to dodge. Explosives and firesprays. More Dakka.

>>3026349
Emmerich probably fucked the timelines and picked one where Elizabeth's attack failed. Try doing that with a dozen drones spewing fire at the same time and it'll get harder for him
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>>3026364
Void crafting is time/space manipulation. He always has room to avoid stuff.
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>>3026364
Basically we need to force the scenario whereby so much AOE damage is incoming over a prolonged period of time to make coming out unscathed impossible.
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>>3026349
Oddly, Vaughn's claw attack has left a more permanent wound than anything even if it seems to have never happened now.

That was different. That was progress.
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>>3026376
Yes, but he's still anchored to the 3 Dimensions of this reality and is fighting Elizabeth there. He can try avoiding damage from dozens of drones firing at him, but it gets progressively harder to come out unscathed compared to just fighting and manipulating probabilities against one person.
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>>3026383
He's a multidimensional entity too. It'll take a lot of damage to outright kill him.
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>>3026388
Maybe we can't kill him but we can hurt him enough to force a tactical withdrawal.
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Should we bring a speaker to Jacob and Dillion with a couple beers and explain to them that we sent Lyle to punch a space ghost scientist just to see their reactions?
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>>3026395
I cannot think of any sufficiently logical reason to reject this proposal.
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>>3026409
Jackob already knows and can inform Dillon himself.
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>>3026222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqOFSNKcfiM

Elizabeth drops from the ceiling as Emmerich charges forward, his arms reaching out from multiple spaces, his hands contorting like a spear as a portion of her weaver graft arm is severed. She shouts out in pain, the wound less a cut and more a rotting, decayed chunk of flesh, like a gangrenous limb. She attempts to roll as she lands, her wounded limb breaking the roll and sending her sprawling on the ground. She quickly looks up to the ceiling as she tries to lunge back onto her feet, but he's no longer there. An instant later, a sudden movement in the corner of her eye catches her attention, and she rolls out of the way of a sudden reverberating impact as Emmerich's arm swings down to the ground. It is no longer a hand, but some manner of armored club, almost like the clawed arm of a crab, its edges sharp and its pincers like knives. Several images are seen, the strange club arms merging together into a coherent image at the very moment of impact before splitting again as Emmerich stands in several places at once, his forms partially overlapping by several inches. He hoists up the arm and swings again as Elizabeth rolls to her back and holds out her arms, imparting a wall of kinetic force in the process. The club slowls and falters as Emmerich struggles to bring it down on top of her, its shell sprouting several small spikes in the process, growing bulkier as he strains visibly. His face flashes with the blur of sudden motion, but does not actually move, his skin becoming more tattered as darkened growths begin to sprout along his head.

Suddenly a claw grips Elizabeth's arm from the side, and Emmerich throws her across the room, his new position overlapping with his old for only a moment. Elizabeth impacts the wall with her mind first, slowly the impact enough to prevent breaking a rib. She looks up as Emmerich stands hunched over, his back split open as shifting growths of dark crystal sprout from his spine, rupturing the skin. Elizabeth grips her arm as she stands, feeling a sudden and growing pain within as the flesh is discolored with necrotic tissue. Her hand is numb, while the flesh just above the elbow burns with the sharp, needle like pain of frostbite. Your parasite within quickly senses the toxins begin flooding the bloodstream as the tissue's necrotic flesh is suddenly filled with fresh blood once more, and begins pouring the toxic, septic blood left stagnant within back into the body. She grabs the arm by the bicep, and pulls, the necrotic tissue ripping like old leaves as she tears off the dead arm before it can poison her any further, and swings it like a whip at Emmrich, its claws flailing out blindly as its bones extend and wrap around Emmrich's more normal arm as he attempts to block, the claws shredding at his skin.

cont.
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>>3026422
But it would be funnier that way
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>>3026425
So yeah. Normal damage isn't going to cut it here.
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>>3026425
Decaying touch?
Entropic fuckery?
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>>3026425
metal
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>>3026425
Yeah liz gonna need some time in the tank after this.
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>>3026425
>Liz pulls off her own rotting arm and uses it as a ranged weapon.
God. Damn.
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>>3026425
You think it's hard when someone rips another man's arm off and beats him to death with it. Real badasses tear their own arms off and use them instead.
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>>3026425
>Several images are seen, the strange club arms merging together into a coherent image at the very moment of impact before splitting again as Emmerich stands in several places at once, his forms partially overlapping by several inches.

Clearly this is when he is most vulnerable.

>She grabs the arm by the bicep, and pulls, the necrotic tissue ripping like old leaves as she tears off the dead arm before it can poison her any further, and swings it like a whip at Emmrich

pic related
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>>3026425
>is skin becoming more tattered as darkened growths begin to sprout along his head.
>She looks up as Emmerich stands hunched over, his back split open as shifting growths of dark crystal sprout from his spine, rupturing the skin
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>>3026448
To be fair she has what? Two extra arms?I forgot what her augs werw.
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>>3026453
She has two arms and six helper arms.
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How long until our parasites can do this?
https://youtu.be/JZKZA0GM2DM
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>>3026451
That's probably also when he's at his most dangerous too
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>>3026453
She's got her normal arm and leg set up (enhanced of course) but also the weaver graft which adds four giant spider leg type limbs reaching from her back

almost like a biopunk doc ock
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>>3026452
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
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>>3026464
Technically we can already do that it just isn't instantaneous. Hibrids and Chimeras can grow augs on then when they are able to cacoon themselfs.
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>>3026453
She has the weaver augment which is like 4 extra arms.

She also has a lot of the biological upgrades (chemical fabricator, fermentation gut, etc.) in addition to the parasite which should give amazing poison resistance. If she didn't have those upgrades the necrotic stuff probably would have killed her already.
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>>3026464
Never. That's multidimensional bullshit.
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>>3026452
Well at least now he has a obvious weak spot were Lyle can punch and the others can shoot.
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>>3026476
Well no wonder she discarded one of the arms.I think some of Lyle might be dripping into her from the hive mind
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>>3026478
So what you're saying is that we need to miniturize non-euclidian space to the point where we can shove a ton of biomass into our parasites for them to use?
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You think you can stop me?
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>>3026425
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJMrrzjELlY

She grabs the arm by the bicep, and pulls, the necrotic tissue ripping like old leaves as she tears off the dead arm before it can poison her any further, and swings it like a whip at Emmrich, its claws flailing out blindly as its bones extend and wrap around a slender, armored forearm, insectoid in appearance covered in small, wispy hairs. He flexes the boney, skinless fingers, their sharp hide sliding over one another with the sound of grating metal, and the torn arm suddenly begins to wither like a dying plant, its flesh shrivelling and snapping apart as it erodes into dust.

"You think you can stop me?" Emmerich says. It is a gurgling, echoing noise, as if spoken from many places at once. "I will tear you from this reality!"

Elizabeth lets the arm go as the oozing shoulder in her hand begins to rapidly rot, and flexes her remaining arm, her other weaver limbs extending outward and then quickly pulling themselves forward as she uses them to focus the growing energy, her mind expanding out to find her target as the static buildup begins sparking between her and the wall behind her, arcing out in growing bursts of sparks as she deeply inhales the spore-saturated air. The energy quickly flows through her remaining limbs, funneling into the air as a sphere of growing plasma forms at the point between the tips of her weaver arms, and she reaches out to it with her remaining hand, compressing it as the burning orb of electrical energy and extreme heat begins to emanate an audible sound as if fights against her attempt to compress it, like a sudden, rapidly growing scream like a small jet engine. Even with your psionic spores, you sense her mind is growing tired, the strain of functioning at such an unnaturally enhanced level quickly taking its toll. As the energy builds to critical mass, Emmerich charges, his massive arm pulling the rest of his body like a lever as he lunges towards her.

>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities
>Keep your mind a safe distance from the fight
>Other (write in)
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>>3026510
>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities
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>>3026510
>>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities


We are not losing Elizabeth to cowardice. This is dangerous, but we need to know if we can beat them and how to fight them too.
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>>3026510
>>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities
We boosted Elizabeth earlier in the fight without ill-effects. We should try to support again.

in-before the Void uses this to mind-crush us and bypass the shroud
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>>3026510
>Other (write in)
Ghost Beetles, Sirens, and any speakers near the complex need to all send Elizibeth their energy.

We cannot help you goku, but the whole world will feed your spirit bomb.
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>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities
COME ON ELIZABETH
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>>3026510
>>Keep your mind a safe distance from the fight
Jesus contacting him would probably hasten the wearing away at the psionic shroud.

Lyle is here in a second. He's the real combat guy.
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>>3026510
>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities
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>>3026510
>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities

Getting real tired of this Void Crafting bullshit.
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>>3026507
uh

>>3026510
>"You think you can stop me?" Emmerich says. It is a gurgling, echoing noise, as if spoken from many places at once
UHH
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>>3026510
>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities

You don't dare hurt her you asshole.
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>>3026531
No we didn't. We avoided that. We boost with spores. We're still bosting with psionic spores.
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>>3026510
>>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities
And supporting >>3026532

If we're going to help out in this fight we may as well go all in. The more guns firing the fewer timelines Emmerich will have to escape to.
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>>3026510
>Use your own mind to help boost her abilities

Please roll 1d100, best of 3
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>>3026510
>>Keep your mind a safe distance from the fight
We can't risk more void contamination.


>her arms stretching the distance like a whip and raking across his face, carving deep beneath the flesh and tearing off a chunk of skin.
>her arms stretching the distance like a whip as Emmerich falls back, the razor-like claws missing his face by several centimeters

> its claws flailing out blindly as its bones extend and wrap around Emmrich's more normal arm as he attempts to block, the claws shredding at his skin.
> its claws flailing out blindly as its bones extend and wrap around a slender, armored forearm, insectoid in appearance covered in small, wispy hairs.
Not sure if QM or Void.
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Rolled 29 (1d100)

>>3026545
For Mother!
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Rolled 61 (1d100)

>>3026540
An anon has been taken. It has begun.

>>3026545
FOR MOTHER!
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>>3026510
>Other rile up the concerts and flood the station with spores. We need everyone to start rocking out ASAP and flood as much emotions and energy around. We need Liz to have dance with the devil music and rock out. (But not too hard. We don't want any harm to the guests after all.)
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Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>3026545
FOR MOTHER!
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>3026545
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>3026545
here we go. for mother
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>>3026510
>Other (write in)
Is there a band currently playing that we can use to provide background music for the fight?

>>3026551
This basically.
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aw fuk
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>3026545
DON'T YOU DARE TO HURT HER!
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Rolled 50 (1d100)

>>3026545
>"I will tear you from this reality!"
It really is like Dragon Ball Z.
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Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>3026545
FORM OTHER INDUSTRIES
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>>3026553
You're late

You know what would be real void fuckery, if when we were fighting the Void directly QD used the lowest of 3 rolls instead of the best of 3 as a result of the void closing off the paths where we succeed.
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>>3026563
Too bad the rolls are shit.
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>>3026547
>>3026548
>>3026552
Oh well guess is time to advance the time table again...
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>>3026547
>>3026548
>>3026552
UH OH
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>>3026540
>>3026546
You though he was attacking her? No, he is attacking us.

Do you hear that siren call?
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>>3026568
We've been rolling lots of 90+'s recently. The rolls had to go south sooner or later.
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That won't work twice, Vaughn.
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>>3026567
I'm right on time as always. It's everyone else that has bad timing.
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>>3026567
If this is true, keep in mind we rolled a 6 for Lyle to show up...
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>>3026590
Now that's a BIG OOF moment.
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So, guys, what's the plan if Emmerich shows up in the Queen's bunker intent on murder some day? The Queen's not exactly built for individual combat. Do we have any psychic guards? If so, we should make some.
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>>3026594
The Queen is extremely powerful psionically already, and I'm sure we've got guards.
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>>3026594
We die of course.
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>>3026594
We do have the psion template for the human clones. Just need to make then.
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>>3026590
>>3026593
You'd think that QD would at least say "Roll 1d100 *worst* of 3".
Because frankly doing that without any warning smells like bad DMing to me.

>>3026594
Did we build the psionically insulated panic room? Also we're still covered by the Psionic Shroud.
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>>3026599
>>3026602
Yeah, we should have those psionic humans/hybrids/chimera be personal guards for the Queen. This attack on Elizabeth hits too close to home.
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>>3026601
You are just a great big ol ball of fucking sunshine today, aren't anon?
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>>3026610
If we can't kill him here I have little hope for actually surviving a direct confrontation.
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>>3026607
We are covered by the shroud for now, but our recent shit rolls might degrade that protection.

Also, the panic room might not work. We built it, but the psionic shields on the lab didn’t help Elizabeth once Emmerich was already inside.
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This is all assuming it actually happens.
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>>3026615
We're gonna peg down Psionic Thought Construction/Non-euclidean Architecture next for actual defenses, right?
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>>3026615
As it stands, the best defense against a hostile void walker outside of intervention by one of our own seems to be overwhelming firepower, and maybe more room to run, but I don't think the latter is possible for the Queen.
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>Getting ambushed by an antagonist whose abilities were completely unknown at the time means we'll never be able to come up with a way of countering him!
Did you forget we've got our own void crafter learning his trade right now?
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>>3026634
Nope, you seem to forget he's nowhere near ready.
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Well one thing is for sure if the void finds out the Queen is on Leeland we will get a chance to test all our defense plataforms.
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>>3026638
He could be three inches under him with how we know the Void works. It's just that fucky in the void.
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>>3026638
And you seem to forget we're safely ensconced within a psionic shroud. It will take Emmerich far longer to learn how to get around that than it will take the First to finish tutoring Seiner.
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>>3026614
>>3026638

He's basically doing the thing Nick Cage did in that one movie where he simultaneously lives all possibility spaces until he can pick the one where he gets the outcome he wants.
Or, in the terms of last thread, he's picking through all the branches simultaneously and then pruning at the last possible moment.

That means he's susceptible to wide area attacks that can't possibly be dodged because they hit everything. If every outcome is zero, then he can't win no matter which branch he picks.
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>>3026638
>nowhere
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>>3026645
I wonder how the Union and Commonwealth would react when suddenly EVERY SINGLE SHIP in our entire armada disappears at once. I assume we would redeploy everything if there were an actual attack on the Queen.
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>The Union when it finds out the Hive was wiped out by an even bigger, more aggressive fish
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>>3026659
The movie is called next he's a precognitive in that movie
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>>3026659
Yeah, I agree. Honestly I think we should have had Liz run and to have sent in drones while Lyle pulled up.

I wasn’t there for the vote and it’s to late to regret now, though. All we can do is learn in the event of future attacks.
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>>3026658
No I fucking haven't. Everyone else is screeching about how Emmerich show up at home and I said if he shows up right now we have no chance of surviving considering how things have been going.
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>>3026659

Is that what's going on here? I wrote if off as a QM thing initially, but now I wonder...
>>3026546
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>>3026661
Not much that ships can do when someone can invade your own bunker. But if he finds out i'm certaing Auntie will send all of her ships to Leeland.

>>3026664
And they still need to deal with OQ creep on Path.
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>>3026546
Thats pretty much how it seems to work.
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>>3026659
>>3026690
Definitely the Void. It’s turning out successes into failures by fucking with the timeline.
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>>3026659
You know what would be perfect in this situation? A colossi with a plasma thrower. Just literally fill the lab with fire. Emmerich can't time slide away from Elizabeth's attacks if there isn't anywhere left in the room that isn't on fire.

Hey, it works on a Smith, it will work on this asshole.
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>>3026682

You seem to be taking the notion that QD is a gaping guttercunt who all-of-a-sudden wants to destroy the story he's spent years working on (and very recently returned to) by janking it into a 1984-style nihilistic narrative of inevitable failure and hopelessness.

There's no need to give voice to the absolute worst possible events that could happen, because QD isn't retarded enough to force them on us out-of-the-blue. Calm down and accept that good things can happen, mate.
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>>3026723
Yeah, I think that's the level of attack needed to kill him. Something that no adaptation, and no selectively perfect movement can save him from.
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>>3026723
Except if he cuts or picks the brench were the rotatory stinger of the plasma fails to ignite.
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>>3026723
Several colossi working in union. Elizabeth should be able to stop her self crispy frying via the spores and our backing.
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>>3026723
We have a Lyle. That should be good enough.
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>Elizabeth get Spore buff
>Plus get the elite agents of the Hive to go into her rescue
>And finnaly has the Queen herself boosting her psy powers

Can't wait for the day that we also boost Lee power against some idiotic terrorist.
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>>3026736
True. If there's anything that squares up against probable victories and well pruned plans like they don't matter, it's a Lyle.
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>>3026728
You seem to assume that I think he will instantly find us or is it just you who thinks that?
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I just realized. Why don't we have Elizabeth use psionic cloaking again?
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>>3026762
I think we're still researching it from the Phantoms right?
Can't remember

Speaking of cloaking, I kinda want to deploy Whisper Drones to places like Deckard's Claim and other places we just annexed
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>>3026751

No, I'm pointing out that the majority of posts you've made after you failed to bitch people out of calling the Valen whales has been needlessly pessimistic and/or antagonizing. Are you really that irritated over a nickname?
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>>3026775
Nope we have it. That's a different application you're thinking of.
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>>3026781
Like I give a fuck if your panties are in a bunch.
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>>3026782
>>3026762
Pretty sure we're still working on it with the Scarred Queen. In any case, I doubt it work as intended when Elizabeth is actively fighting a sentient void shard.
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>>3026775
We should send some drones. As well as we should start to build a trading post were se tinel was so we can start trading with the Commonwealth.
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>>3026785
So it was the whales.
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>>3026775
I'm fine with deploying the mind-influencing drones in our own space. It could help with our PR.
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>>3026786
May I point the White queen researched that shit before going to war with the Void.
>>3026794
What about the Canians?
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>>3026796
Should send thrn to Decker. To bad we have so little space and can't create clones/replicants yet.
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>>3026800
Aww fuck, I keep forgetting about the Canians. We still totally need to rescue them from Union oppression and forced labor canderon mining, through adoption.
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>>3026134
This made me remember that Shoggy said he'd post the next part on 7/2/18 which apparently he actually did
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>>3026800
>Giant balls of sentient ionized protein chains living on the surface of a star
>whales
That makes less sense than any of your sea-salt over Valen nicknames, and you've been pouring in on thick tonight.
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>>3026817
The way that things are going on the Union they might not need us to free themselfs from the Union.

That population can't take more happenings as it has being accuring to then.
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>>3026545
Elizabeth focuses the energy as her own mind is suddenly bolstered with your own. Drones across the city halt for a brief moment as the combined mental capacity of entire star systems of your Hive become focused onto one singular effort, the psionic spores within the room visibly energized from the concentration as arcs of electricity jump from place to place and scattered debris and loose papers swirl in rapidly growing eddies of artificial wind as thermal fluctuations grow throughout the lab. Elizabeth expands her weaver arms, sending the plasma hurtling forward against Emmerich's charging form as the plasma suddenly plumes into a wall of energy, tearing bulkheads and floor plating away as it passes and flash-boiling chunks of building-flesh.

The city shakes. The rumbling carried along the floor and walls of its wards. The organic lights dim and flicker as the drones halt in their place for a brief moment, as if the whole city were shuddering from a sudden microseizure. Your guests do not notice as the power surge sends sparks hurling from several converter panels where cables trail off to the grand stage, sending a pyrotechnics and laser display erupting on stage like a volcano as the first band kicks off the first day of the concert. The sudden sway of the ward's structure only becoming a part of the audience's movements as they thrash their heads and eye-stalks.

cont.
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>>3026844
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNRCA1hbvQk

The lab is gutted from wall to wall, the sealed bulkhead across cracked open with a spiderweb of open cracks as a trail of growing fire coats every surface beyond Elizabeth, the flames slowly ebbing around her as bolts of electrical discharge crackle around her. Her other arm is gone, incinerated up to the elbow. She breathes heavily, the flames around her reacting to the mental effort behind the physical strain, rising and falling, trailing and reaching with her breaths. In the flames, rubble creaks and pops, simmering in piles, and suddenly shift. A large shape, like an armored gorilla more than a man, shrugs its shoulders, sending debris sliding from its hide. It is a mass of darkened, charred bone and simmered, burnt flesh. Shifting crystals sprout from its hide, reaching out from its spine and growing over its arms. Its forearm is a massive crystalline claw, while the other is a horrid looking black armored stick covered in thorns with far too many joints. Its face is akin to a skull, the jaw slack and hanging open as tendris hang from the burnt and shredded flesh of its cheekbones like jowls. Its legs are long, spider like stems ending in barbed claws. It roars, a bestial, inhuman noise, and looks to Elizabeth with an unnatural rage as any sanity or intelligence left in its eyes seem to seep away. It begins to move, crawling forth from the crater in which it was embedded, its legs snapping and re-forming under its weight, thicker and more mutated with each step as it shifts into a gallop.

There is a presence at the door of the lab. You attempt to open it, but the impact is too fast, the psionic shielding of the bulkhead snapping suddenly as Lyle's augmented arm lands two solid hits on it and cracks the rim of the door's seal and he leaps in through the hole, his arm catching the cracked fragment of door bulkhead as he spins, tearing it from the cuticle holding it to the door and hurling it like a discus into the creature's head. It impacts with a sudden thud and a strange, ringing noise that seems to sound before the contact was made. It turns as Lyle is already mid-charge, a large segment of the lab's destroyed wall in his grip. He swings it like a bat, impacting the creature's face as it staggers to the side, and then lets out an inhuman roar. The creature that was once Emmerich swings its arm, the surface rippling and boiling as it suddenly stretches towards Lyle in a long line of mismatched flesh and collected debris, impacting Lyle as he holds up the wall, the growing flesh mound crawling over and around the makeshift shield until a burst of lightning flashes against the arm, sending it retracting back as Emmerich's form turns back to Elizabeth, only to receive another impact from the wall section, snapping it in half as Lyle breaks it over its head.

cont.
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BEST BOY IS HERE
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>>3026848
It's so cute seeing our children playing nicely together.
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>>3026848
oh what the fuck this
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>sending a pyrotechnics and laser display erupting on stage like a volcano as the first band kicks off the first day of the concert. The sudden sway of the ward's structure only becoming a part of the audience's movements as they thrash their heads and eye-stalks.
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>>3026824
Better than calling something looks like a snail a whale based on size alone also don't think I've actually been salty, some guy was flipping out at me having said "that we'd lose a direct confrontation" for some reason.
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>>3026873
I've always thought that they were more crocidilian mixed with a turtle and pipe organ then a snail, despite what that one anons image. I thought I remember QD saying so way, way back.
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>>3026848
>A large shape, like an armored gorilla more than a man, shrugs its shoulders, sending debris sliding from its hide. It is a mass of darkened, charred bone and simmered, burnt flesh. Shifting crystals sprout from its hide, reaching out from its spine and growing over its arms. Its forearm is a massive crystalline claw, while the other is a horrid looking black armored stick covered in thorns with far too many joints. Its face is akin to a skull, the jaw slack and hanging open as tendris hang from the burnt and shredded flesh of its cheekbones like jowls. Its legs are long, spider like stems ending in barbed claws. It roars, a bestial, inhuman noise, and looks to Elizabeth with an unnatural rage as any sanity or intelligence left in its eyes seem to seep away.

inb4 the Void was also empowering Emmerich at the same time
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>>3026894
Well you're not entirely wrong. They probably got the nickname "gators" from their eating habits. Also pic for how valen look.
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And now, shit gets real.
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>>3026848
Lyle always knows how to make an entrance doesn't he?

>>3026894
If you mean the one drawn by MrSmiles he drew that to QD's specifications just like the Scav and Skyl pics
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>>3026848
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_0Dq5nCbw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq_Fm7qfRQk
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>>3026873
They don't look anything like any species on Earth, whale works as well as any other name.
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Has Emmerich finally reached his final form?
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>>3026904
>>3026905
Is it wrong that the first thing i though when the fight started was. Mosh pit!!!
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>>3026902
I always imagined the head and arms to be much more walrus-like.I like that pic though, I haven't seen that one in particular before.
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>>3026919
Not at all.

>Lyle came for the mosh pits
>He stays to fight the Void demon
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>>3026917
Hopefully. I'd prefer he had to sacrifice the remainder of his humanity for this little powerup, since he'd be far more of a threat trying to act subtle against us than as a monster we can just beat into the ground.
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>>3026917
I'm really stoked that he's gone feral. That means his ability to do any really harmful voidcrafting beyond the end of this battle might be gone, even if he survives. Pruning the web of fate takes intelligence and foresight that he doesn't have anymore. Because he's a creature of the Void and his mind became consumed with blind rage, that's what he literally is now.

At least it sure seems that way at the moment.

>>3026929
Yep, he's not going to be doing any cloak-and-dagger master-manipulator shenanigans if this transformation is permanent. Of course, I hope he actually gets turned into an indistinct smear across the void as a result of this fight, too.
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>>3026915
>They don't look anything like any species on Earth, whale works as well as any other name.
I could say just like the Canians who are peaceful giants that swim through space and filter feed on plasma but the inspirations are pretty obvious for the Valen.
>>3026917
If this is his final form then I'm fuckin disappointed.
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>>3026848
>a burst of lightning flashes against the arm, sending it retracting back as Emmerich's form turns back to Elizabeth, only to receive another impact from the wall section, snapping it in half as Lyle breaks it over its head.
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>Note to self we can actually use the psionic walls to punch psionic manifestations.

I guess Lyle just gave a new idea to our thinkers.
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>>3026956
I'm reminded of the foam finger gun from Dead Space.
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>>3026954
But they're not peaceful giants. They've fought religious conflicts between themselves over the exploitation of their star for Canderon.

And they don't swim through space.They're bound to the surface of their star.

And how they feed has never been established. We don't even know IF they need to feed to sustain themselves.
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>>3026848
Lyle dives to the side, flanking the creature as Elizabeth hoists up a streaming series of debris chunts, firing them like a machine gun as chunks embed into the crystalline hide. It reals back, quickly turning to Elizabeth as Lyle fires his weapon, sending three rounds into the mass of flesh before it jams. He tosses it aside and unsheathes his blades, charging in as the creature shudders against a torrent of lighting bolts arcing from Elizabeth's weaver arms.

Lyle swings his arms as he lunges forward, chopping through several limbs with each strike. It stumbles, falling down onto its massive arm as the severed legs suddenly swirl together like curling taffy, merging together into a massive clawed limb that swings back and kicks Lyle in the chest, sending him hurling back and into the wall. He lands with a thud as he gasps for air, his ribs quickly fusing back together. He looks up and quickly grabs a portion of a support beam that had fallen from the ceiling, the armored beam of psionic insulation looking like a five foot long femur more than anything else as Lyle grabs it at the narrow end and charges again, leaping up over a mound of destroyed equipment as he brings the club down onto the Emmrich creature. He lands to its side, swinging it again into its lower jaw, shattering it like glass as it reels back, bolts of lighting arcing over its body.

Lyle dives after it, leaping into the air as he hoists the club over his head, imparting his whole body into the swing as it hoists its smaller arm up to block it. Lyle lands on top of it as it falls back, and he hits it again, cracking through the hide until it throws him off with a swing of its arm. It hoists itself to attack, and several more beams from the ceiling fall, most missing as they snap and bounce against the ground around it, while another, guided firmly with Elizabeth's mental grip, punctures its hide and pins it to the ground. Lyle rushes forward with his own club again, and swings it madly at the creature as it thrashes its arms up in attempt to block the torrent of blows.

cont.
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>>3026920
The drawfriend also did one of a skav
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>>3026968
They're also literally plasma balls with tentacles. I'd call them jellyfish if anything.
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>>3026984
I did catch that one
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... After Lyle makes sure that it's dead, make sure that the parasite is disabled so he can drink as much as he wants on this station.
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>>3026982
>>3026995
I swear if Lyle gets us out of this we're going to have to give him psionic implant upgrades in addition to the free infinite drinks. By this point he's earned it.
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>>3026965
It's not like that idea wasn't mentioned last thread.
>>3026968
By far? They are the most peaceful race around, only religious extremist (who aren't that violent either) are aggressive mostly targeting the mining stations that they think are hurt their star and source of food
>And how they feed has never been established
This has established early on. They feed by absorbing the plasma that comes off their star.
>>3027000
Which do you think is better? Void Crafting or Psionics?
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Shouldn't have gone on vacation, Elizabeth
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>>3027000
we're going to ask if he wants one first if he does all the power to him
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>>3027007
"The Queen demands that the rest of your vacation be spent unconscious in this medical tube regenerating your limbs."
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>>3027007
No, bad anon! Our girl deserves a break.
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>>3027000
>Lyle
>with psionics
>drunk
>during a black death metal concert

I cannot for the life of me find the reaction image I'm looking for, but it's as scared as it is excited.
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>>3026982
Uh...psionic insulation can be added to weapons and blades to hurt void crafters...good to know i take it.
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>>3027010
>"Hey Lyle, do you want a tool that will let you blow things up with your mind like you saw Liz do?"
I have a feeling he's going to want one ... but you're totally right it's his call here.

>>3027019
kek
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>So Lyle, do you want to shoot lightening and fire with your mind like Elizabeth?
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>>3026982
There's a purity is just picking up a large bone or stick to bludgeon your enemy to death
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>>3027005
if-no when we get good enough to give him both he gets both for maximum asskicking
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>>3027007
Hey we wouldn't be setting up the biggest party these lower lifeforms have ever seen if we didn't bring Elizabeth.
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>>3027012
>>3027007
After this vacation she is never leaving the bunker is she...
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Is it this one?
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I wonder if the material itself has some effect on Emmerichs ability to avoid the damage. From how I'm reading it seems like all attacks made using the insulating material seem to hit.
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>>3027019
On the upside he hates the music. However I wonder when Sushi will arrive.
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>>3027037
Void Crafting can't affect it so it has to work around it.
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>>3027033
to be fair that's the sane response after all you aren't paranoid if they actually are out to erase you from existence
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>>3027037
It seem to hurt him more at least. The guy got cutted by the normal blades and even so he didn't roared like a wounded animal the way he did when Lyle slapped his gave with the improvised club.
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>>3027044
A possible future drone dedicated to anti-voidcrafting equipped with blades and ammunition made of insulating material?
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>>3027033
Honestly I think it may be too dangerous to bring her *back* to the bunker. Even if Emmerich "appears" to be defeated the Void could still be watching. It's a better idea to assign Elizabeth to a permanent location like the Hive Ship or one of our hive cities and install a shroud there using the dead shard we have in storage from Nowhere. Hopefully the Union will unfuck itself and give us their dead shards (and live shard) soon too. We may also find more shards in the wreckage of the Ceph battle.

>>3027020
Also, yeah, it's really REALLY good to know that psionic insulation can hurt void entities.
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>>3027048
And somehow i doubt this will be the last time we see Emmerich.
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>Elizabeth. I appreciate your dedication to The Hive but I also have growing concerns over your mental state. I'm going to be sending you to The Hive's new resort city for a vacation. You'll be able to rest, recuperate and above all else remember that you're still huma-
https://youtu.be/idoYCVLh2qI
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>>3027059
until we kill the void gods deader then dead and even then we can't be sure he seems like the type to come back for the sequel
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>>3027034
That'll do.

>>3027055
Honestly, we should just set up "break glass in case of void" boxes throughout all expanse space, and our embassy, filled with full kits of psionically insulated blades/guns/ammo. Maybe even some snazzy insulated vests, drone size and less. And, of course, tell absolutely nobody why we're doing that when they ask about it.
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>>3027056

>Also, yeah, it's really REALLY good to know that psionic insulation can hurt void entities.

Time to coat all our agents weapons and bullets with it!

>Even if Emmerich "appears" to be defeated the Void could still be watching. It's a better idea to assign Elizabeth to a permanent location like the Hive Ship or one of our hive cities

Well...we were going to make that skunkwork base were we share research with the Union in Bedrock. Or we can use the broken servership in Braedeburn and build human/unity/Hive research center there.
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>>3027079
Yeah Elizabeth told some of her scientist friends she was the director of research for the Hive right before the break. We haven’t acted on that yet, but if she gets in a joint project with them, providing a shroud would probably assist in keeping any work they do safe.
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>>3027090
Wonder if a normal shroud is enough for one space city or if we would need the Scarred Queen research in shrouding a entire planet to use it in a space city.
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>>3026982
Dillon and Jackob rush into the lab, their weapons drawn. They both nearly wretch as they see Lyle beating the mound of burning flesh and simmering rubble with the large bone club, blackened looking blood splattered all over the floor and walls, as well as himself as the creature's head is split open and crushed like a melon, a scattered and quickly dissipating pile of ice-like crystalline blood covering the floor around the mound that was once a face.

On the far wall, Elizabeth leans back, falling against the wall as she slides down to the floor. Dillon and Jackob rush to her. She tries to stand back up, but lacks the strength, her weaver limbs sliding against the floor. The two help her up as she hazly examines her wounds, the stubb of her arm simmering with the heat of the hive's medical slave as it rapidly repairs the flesh, the accelerated metabolic process causing the wounded flesh to literally burn away like overcooked meat.

"You need to get to a med bay." Dillon says. Elizabeth mutters a response.

"This is the med bay." She says. "Take me outside, the public medical pods are out front." Dillon and Jackob quickly carry her out to the medical pods as they pass Lyle. His club snaps from the repeated blows, and he tosses the broken chunk to the side as he begins to calm down, his breath steadying, his heartbeats slowing again. He stands back to examine the creature, quickly searching the remains of the rubble with his eyes as he examines the stain of bloodied goo on the floor where the head once was prior to its collapse under his club. He looks for the body it was connected to, and in a moment of confusion, begins kicking parts of the debris from side to side, and eventually begins digging through it, finding nothing but a mixture of flesh and chitin. You see no gap or empty space, no indication that there was ever any additional mass within the pile.

Suddenly the touch of a mental connection sends him momentarially back into a combat stance, until he hears the mental words of Elizabeth.

"How did you know the material would hurt it?" She asks.

"Hurt it? Figured it looked like a good club, and when I tried to use the blades it did some freaky shit with its limbs. Figured it was like that uh... Hydra thing, need to kill it without cutting it. Always wondered why they have a written course for Commonwealth spec ops, but I guess it paid off." Lyle says somewhat proudly as he speaks aloud to the empty room.

"What the fuck was it?" Lyle says suddenly, but Elizabeth's curious mind is gone again, retreated to her own priorities as she communes with the thinkers of your medical facility. Lyle stands in the room in silence as several pieces of debris continue to fall from the ceiling. The first of likely many workers begin sweeping the floors, and he throws up his hands in mild frustration, announcing his intentions to the room itself. "Fuck it! I'm gonna go get drunk." He says.

cont.
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>>3027109
Well, now it sounds like you're muddling psionic cloaking with psionic shrouds. Big difference there between the two.
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>>3027109
Different tech.
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>>3027119
Good news Lyle! You get jedi powers!
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>>3027119
We... we won?

Why do I have a sinking feeling that there's more going on here than we can observe.
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>"Hurt it? Figured it looked like a good club, and when I tried to use the blades it did some freaky shit with its limbs. Figured it was like that uh... Hydra thing, need to kill it without cutting it. Always wondered why they have a written course for Commonwealth spec ops, but I guess it paid off." Lyle says somewhat proudly as he speaks aloud to the empty room.

huh
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>>3027141
Lyle is truly a Chad among Chads.
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>>3027119
Congratulations are in order, I think. Personal ones from us. The kind that make your whole body warm and fuzzy with happiness.
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>>3027119
>"Fuck it! I'm gonna go get drunk." He says.
I cannot understate how much I love this human being.
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>>3027153
seconded
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>>3027119
We driven him back for now, but he was never alive to kill in the first place was he?
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>>3027119
>"What the fuck was it?"
Ghost turned hate demon with reality manipulation power.
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>>3027119
>"How did you know the material would hurt it?" She asks.

>>3027122
the psionic insulating material disperses tachyons right? and since psionics and void fuckery both rely on tachyons, It would make sense that such things would damage or disrupt entities operating and relying on tachyons.
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Welp, time to make some psionic dampening weapons somehow. Does the dampening work with that specific material or is there more to it? If not we can make some voidkiller bullets/weapons fairly easily.
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>>3027122
>>3027126
Yeah it's late on my end. I should go take a nap
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>>3027153
How about he also gets to finally meet us in person? Only Lee and Elizabeth have done it so far.
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>>3027178
Honestly... would he really care?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dll329ggLIY
kick back and enjoy some metal and a drink lyle, you deserve it.
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>>3027186
Not really. Rather it be better to tell him we're getting new toys soon.
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>>3027178
Yes. We can give him the hug he deserves.
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>>3027186
probably not that's why we should offer the power
to set things on fire with his mind he'd like that
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>>3027178
You do realize that a Queen showing itself without a drone is the same as being naked in front of said person right?
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>>3027204
>implying best boy hasn't earned a show
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also QD were any of our guests in that room?
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>>3027119
As Elizabeth is hefted into the medical pod, her mind is racing, first with her own diagnostics, as she assists in the thinkers' medical efforts, and then in other matters. While it would be a simple matter of simply molding psionic insulation into various weapons, and in fact such a thing is entirely possible for a range of weapons without any research being required, Elizabeth quickly assembles a number of experimental parameters to attempt later.

New Research Unlocked
>Anti-Tachyonic weapons
Very Fast
While even Lyle has the engineering capacity to form a piece of psionic insulation into a weapon, as his new set of home-made knuckle dusters attest, a proper arsenal of weapons, no matter their material component, requires a keen sense of material engineering and a great degree of effort to optimize. You are still unaware of the details, drawbacks, or necessary additional steps needed to fully utilize psionic insulation in a weapon. The material is not inherently magnetic, and thus ranged weapons may become an issue if it is not possible to properly allow the material. Likewise, in its pure form it is often more brittle than the typical materials used in melee weapons, and you suspect such weapons would lack much of the penetrative power of standard equipment, but you will not know the full details until you have finished a proper study.

>Adjust your research slots
>Continue research as is
>Other
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>>3027204
We're always naked. Assuming we don't have a lighter amulet, we even have our most private parts uncovered. Really, we can just mentally hug Lyle and give him more gun, that'll get our feelings across just fine.

Calling him to Leeland for a grats and thanks would be... weird.
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>>3027213
>Adjust your research slots
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>>3027213
Well. ALRIGHTY
>Adjust your research slots
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>>3027204
Its only naked if its an outsider. Lyle is part of the Hive now, so its ok.
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>>3027213
>>Adjust your research slots
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>>3027216
I'm okay with a mental hug.

>>3027205
no.
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>>3027213
>Adjust your research slots
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You know I think people overlook the best part of this victory. After Emmerich doing all of that reality warping shit and saying everything we do against him is useless, some guy with a club comes in and beats him down like it's nothing. If Emmerich is still around he's never living that shit down.
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>>3027228
Oh i forgot that detail.
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>>3027213
>Adjust your research slots
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>>3027213
>>Adjust your research slots

>>3027178
I'd back allowing Lyle the honor of meeting the Queen if he wants to. Although we can and should also make him a jedi. But let's allow him to get drunk first, he's earned it.
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>>3027213
>Adjust your research slots
>inform theseus and heretic of what happened no mention of seiner
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>>3027238
>tfw finally get to bring the bitch that dumped you in uni down a few pegs but her step-brother shows up and beats you up like it's high school all over again
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>>3027213
>>Adjust your research slots
So that's what that 98 did. Based Lyle.
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>>3027238
>>3027247
It's so perfect, put this way. I can't stop smiling.
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>>3027213
Replace personal shielding with Anti-Tachyonic weapons.
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>>3027238
>You call a club a weapon worthy of the legacy of One of the Three?
>Hey, so long as it works
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>>3025957
No
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>>3027238
>>3027247
You know we're going to have to troll him with this relentlessly if he ever shows his face again.
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>>3027256
No. Lyle will want those shields.
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>>3027238
>>3027252
This scenario only highlights the importance of the "small" single-minded races in general and humans specifically. It's likely that Emmerich never paid any attention to Lyle prior to this incident. The Queens are relatively few, but the humans are many and they renew ever hundred years or so, naturally severing any kind of connections. A far cry from immortal and monolithic queens that all know each other probably.
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>Presenting the First Humans of the Hive:

>>Lee, he who lit our way to the stars

>>Elizabeth, she who gave us a friend before we met and became ours when we did

>>Lyle, he who breaks shit
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>>3027286
Accurate. And they our our precious children...If they ever do get killed, BOY, are we gonna be pissed.
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>>3027271
Hardly, I think he enjoys the pain of getting beaten and stabbed too much. He'll certainly prefer a blade or gun that can bleed a god, regardless.
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We should definately research these new possibilities but lets not get rid of researching personal shields. Being bulletproof is usefull.
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>>3027286
Don't forget Lyle was the first human we adopted, and was the first direct experience the Hive had of human existence. If our behavior afterword was anything to go on, it made an impression on us.
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>>3027294
He doesn't like getting hurt so much as a good fight and better tech.
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>>3027274
it occurs to me Emmerich would have probably called lyle a caveman or something so its appropriate that he beat him with a club
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Maybe we should replace Silicate Hybrid
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>>3027213
>Adjust your research

Available research slots to adjust:

+++Primary
>Silicate Hybrid Study

++Secondary
>Silicate Defenders Dissection
>Personal Shielding

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
>Psionic cloak amplification

External
Theseus
>Silicate Computing

Which slot will you replace with Anti-Tachyonic Weapons?

>Primary
>Silicate Dissection
>Personal Shielding
>Psionic Cloak Amplification
>Silicate Computing
>Other
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>>3027319
>>Personal Shielding
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>>3027319
>Primary

This has suddenly become much less important than it appeared.
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>>3027319
>Personal Shielding
We still have the numbers to due well in battle and our operatives are already durable. I'd rather they get a bit singed then face an opponent they cant hurt.
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>>3027319

>Primary
>remove Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027319
>Primary
I meant this.
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>>3027319
>Primary
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>>3027319
>Personal Shielding
shields wont due shit against void fuckery as our poor ships found out
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>>3027319
>Primary
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>>3027319
>Silicate Dissection
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>>3027335
Personal Shields are for ground troops. Not ships.
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>>3027335
personal is for the drones besides the research is a very fast one.
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>>3027319
>>Personal Shielding

Guys don't be retarded, you shouldn't need 3 rolls of a Primary slot to complete a Very Fast topic. Even 2 rolls of a Secondary slot is more than enough overkill.
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>>3027335
Also Shields are valuable against the Black Queen with her spores.
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>>3027319
>Personal Shielding
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>>3027346
We need those shields more than the other two things research we're researching.
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>>3027346
Then replace the silicate defenders not the shields that would allow our drones to survive OQ creep and her spores.
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>>3027346
I do keep track of overflow though. I roll the dice, add them up, and once it's finished any points left over are then added to the next research topic that is added into that slot on top of the results of that day's rolls.
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>>3027362
I'm willing to take off anything that isn't the shields.
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>>3027319
Looks like we have a tie, so narrowing the field.

>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
>Replace Personal Shielding
>Other
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>>3027350
>>3027362
Her spores arent some kind of drone killers mate,
Ours drones already got adaptations and equipment to handle creep and spores
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>>3027365
Same.
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>>3027362
Why are you so obsessed with that? We haven't even been in combat with OQ or even encountered her spores in a long fucking time.
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>>3027363
At this point we need a FAQ pastebin with how much people forget this shit.
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>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027368
>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027368
>>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study

>>3027370
You forget the part were her spore/creep consumes whatever organic matter it touches?
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>>3027319
>>Primary
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>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027368
>>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027368
>>Replace Personal Shielding

Frankly, we should replace Psionic cloak amplification as the thing we need least immediately since it's just 1 roll, and that's all it should need to get done in a single day no matter what slot it's put in.

But it definitely doesnt need to waste a primary slot. Either way it's done in 1 day.
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>>3027368
>>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027368
>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027370
The creep the spores create is a drone killer. No ground offensive is via until we get those shields.
>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027368
>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027380
funny that i didnt know that flames from a flamethrower or plasma torch counted as organic matter
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>>3027368
>Replace Personal Shielding
I feel like the silicate hybrid might be important both for Theseus upgrades and for defeating the silicate defenses that are holding up our conquest of the Scavs.
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>>3027368
>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027368
>>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027388
It's not a fucking waste. QD just explained it isn't.
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>>3027368
>>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027372
Have you forgotten the bullshit that is happening on Path?
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>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study

Mostly voting this way because of what QD says here:
>>3027363
We need anti-void entity weapons asap and the overflow will still be counted.
Shields will be useful against the OQ and the Scavs. The Ceph are probably played out for the moment. Silicate-Hybrid study is super important too, but we can use the overflow to continue to boost it.
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>>3027368
>>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027407
The bullshit we're staying out of and leaving specifically for the Union with our non-interventionist oversight?
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>>3027411
The same bullshit that the Union will and our help to solve after they fucked up yes.
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>>3027400
If vulnerabilities to the Void are a upgrade then sure. It's a big upgrade.
>>3027411
A lot of people still want to intervene.
>>3027408
The overflow will speed up all of our other research so I don't get why people are against it.
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>>3027411
Worst Aunt has been quiet for a long time Anon. Even if we don't intervene with the Path SNAFU, having personal shields will protect valuable assets when there are attacks in the future. Also, some of our agents (like our beautiful Titan), would be greatly improved by personal shields - which would help the war against the Scavs.
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>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
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>>3027422
As always people don't read.
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>>3027424
How reckless you think Lyle is going to be if he gets a personnel shield?
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>>3027427
People seemed to have stop caring about the crunch and vote impulsively rather than intelligently.
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>>3027368
>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study

Primary Research slot is now set to Anti-Tachyonic Weapons.

writing.
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>>3027422
>The overflow will speed up all of our other research so I don't get why people are against it.
No it's counted towards the next pick to that slot not spread out over all other research.
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>>3027437
How does that negate what I said? It speeds up our other research which is all I cared about and all you should care about (in regards to overflow).
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>>3027368
>>Replace Personal Shielding
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>>3027432
Tank concentrated and sustained fire to the face while casually walking towards the enemy in order to break their bones with his bare hands reckless.
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>>3027444
Trips of truth
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>>3027449
>Lyle with Jedi-powers, full Hive augmentation, and personal shields.

The man will be a walking exterminatus.
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>>3027458
>Lyle gets psionics
>Lyle upgrades his armor
>Personal shields
>Canderon Grav-manipulation from the armor en route
>Phantom cloaking (or Phantom teammates)
>Bad news for everyone the Hive pissed off

I want to throw Lyle and a Titan at the Obsidian Hive and see how much damage they can do compared to each other
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>>3027467
>You are now imagining Lyle ridding a Titan across a field of OQ drones.
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>>3027467
"What if we take the most dangerous human and give him every single possible experimental weapon from four different races using technology that is either unheard of or hasn't been around since the pre-Schism days?"
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>>3027468
This simply must be done. I swear to god I won't rest until QD writes this scene up during a full on land battle with the Obsidian Hive at some point.
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>>3027468
I always imagined Hive adoptees riding Hive "horses" like this
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>>3027394
>>3027401
>>3027405
>>3027445


Anyone find these votes suspicious?
All IP addresses with only a single post voting for the exact same thing with the exact same phrasing.
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>>3027444
I never claimed it did.
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>>3027473
>>3027479
And when that day comes If Lyle is asked if he could come back in time knowing all if this would he take the pounch job the Hive drones. His anwser would be "You fucking bet i would!"
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>>3027483
It might surprise you but a lot of people lurk.

It doesn't matter, we're likely going to finish one or two researches next time we get anything, so we'll put the dissection back.
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Wonder how that humanitarian aid to Path is looking.
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>>3027495
Fair enough, I know there are lots of lurkers.
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>>3027483
Not like it matters.

>>3027480
Each Hive agent ridding a personnal titna in the field is still way cool in my head.
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>>3027483
>All IP's address with only a single post voting for the same exact thing with the same exact phrasing

I don't know fucking Captain fucking retard. Let's take a look at what the fucking options were

>Replace Silicate Hybrid Study
>Replace Personal Shielding
>Other

Man What a fucking strange thing, I guess the QM must also be samefagging because its got the same exact fucking writing as me.
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>>3027498
You speak as if anyone has even looked at our offert yet. They are most likely still trying to deal with the gravitic missiles on their reserves plus a Ceph attack and now riots and more looters in the streets
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>>3027473
This is superbly awesome and must be done.

No turning Lyle into a void entity ala Seiner, though. He’d wind up destroying all of spacetime probably.
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>>3027495
>>3027499
Also people using phones to follow threads without wifi their ids sometimes shuffle.
At least that's what I noticed when my net died and I had to phonepost using my network
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>>3027483
I was watching a harry potter marathon with my mother. I voted then took a shower. I know it's suspicious but you can't be too paranoid
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>>3027506
He would be bored actually not much to drink or fight as a void crafter.
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Well Lyle is going to need a lot of discipline training if he learns psionics.
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>>3027516
Nah he'll just offload all that nerd shit to the thinkers. It's the lyle way to do things.
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>>3027514
I think you would have to get his opponents inebriated on something stronger than just alcohol for them to consider fighting something like that in hand to hand combat.
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>>3027518
I'm imagining a big fleshy brain bug strapped to his back at all times as his dedicated psionics thinker now.
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>>3027434
The room is arranged with several long tables lined up next to one another, each cluttered with people sitting in nearly every available space on a series of mismatched chairs collected from all over the compound. At one end of the table is George as Mike Lee sits next to him on the right. Anderson sits near the middle of the first table, surrounded by a number of Lees, and a range of cousins and inlaws. Richardson sits at the other end, as he concludes a rather long prayer as the rest of the family and guests keep their heads bowed, while the children squirm in their seats, the silence requiring a visible, agonizing effort to maintain. Anderson maintains the position, mouthing the words in silence as he watches the rest of the table through a squinted eye. On the whole, it seems most of the women are one one side of the table and the men on the other, although you note exceptions where individual families are sitting together. In general, it seems they have all seated so that no man is seated next to a woman that is not married to him or a direct relative, and vice versa, although nobody mentioned anything of such a seating code. The additional tables are filled with more and more distant relatives, or volunteers helping with the campaign efforts, while the younger children who are able to feed themselves have a small table to themselves set perpendicular to the rest of them, and several mothers or grandmothers hold small babies of various ages and in various states of agitation.

Richardson finishes, and the rest of the group echos the 'amen' as everyone begins reaching for the large supply of food set out along the center of the tables. Large bowls of different kinds of rice mixed with a range of beef and poultry, glass pitchers of milk, baskets of bread rolls and fried stuffed rice balls, and several whole cooked chickens and several plates of meat loaf, along with small pitchers of gravy, several bowls of mashed potatoes, and a wide range of sauces. Anderson looks over the food for a few moments in confusion. He had never actually tasted the authentic versions of many of the offered food. Actual cows were expensive to maintain in the metropolitan cities he was used to, and industrial farming on a scale large enough to provide cheap meat and dairy on most planets was simply not feasible, either due to local environmental issues, legal codes, or a mix of both. While most of his life has been spent reading adds proclaiming there is no difference, he can clearly see the difference, and smell it.

He grabs a rice ball. There are several kinds, but the one closest to him is a small, tightly rolled bread-like ball filled with some kind of sweet, chocolatey tasting jam. The other is a looser one, molded from steamed rice formed around a core of meat and bean paste. He suddenly realizes how atrocious his typical synth food really is, and he wonders how he will ever manage to stay sane if he has to return to eating cricket bars.

cont.
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>>3027516
Lyle's an extremely skilled fighter and he didn't get that way by being lazy. With time he can likely master at least the martial aspects of psionics, especially with hive help.
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>>3027526
Don't worry Anderson. Mother provides the finest home grown meats for her children that require them.
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>>3027526
>He suddenly realizes how atrocious his typical synth food really is, and he wonders how he will ever manage to stay sane if he has to return to eating cricket bars.
This poor guy.
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>>3027526
poor bastard
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>>3027526
I think we're going to have to start packing him boxed lunches for his future missions.
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>He had never actually tasted the authentic versions of many of the offered food. Actual cows were expensive to maintain in the metropolitan cities he was used to, and industrial farming on a scale large enough to provide cheap meat and dairy on most planets was simply not feasible

>industrial farming on a scale large enough to provide cheap meat and dairy on most planets was simply not feasible

Why good sir that sounds like a challenge to the Hive. We must now do this in every Hive world.
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>>3027541
Like a good mother always does. He could also take Richardson place if the priest proves to be a void cultist.
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>>3027545
We can flash clone the individual parts of produce already.
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>>3027541
Our son will get the best lunch, composed of a ham and cheese sandwich, some apple slices, a juice box and a few cookies.
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>>3027549
Guess we get another reason to ask for more "specimes" from our Valen friends. If the Have gets a cow it can clone it and mame a entire herd to feed everyone.
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>>3027483
That was my first vote in the thread I think
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>>3027548
Anderson going from backwater con-artist to being elected a member of parliament would be amazing.
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>>3027564
We'd probably want to clone a replacement instead. Anderson seemed rather averse to the idea of staying someone.
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>>3027564
That's like some Black Adder level of comedy of errors right there.
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>>3027569
With our mutation tech and facial reconstruction he genetically doesn't have to.
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>>3027564
We would need to scan Anderson's mind to get more info on him. Anderson is a master at pretending to be someone else, however he is best at being someone who hadn't existed until he became him. Pretending to be someone who people know would be more difficult. He could pull it off for a bit, but he would likely slip up. But if we gave him a subconscious link to Richardson's memory bank, then no one would know.No one.
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>>3027569
Would a clone have hero unit status though? We may have to develop memory seed technology to do this first.
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>>3027526
Anderson immediately begins piling his plate with food, almost forgetting about his real mission for a split instance. He almost doesn't notice Richardson's gaze as Anderson manages to make some semblance of a sandwich out of a split open sweetened bread roll, a slice of meatloaf, some mashed potatoes which clearly contains several sticks of butter, real, actual butter, and some kind of cheese, a smear of spicy jelly and a liberal amount of gravy of both brown and white kinds. He quickly eats is, and then asks for someone to pass the fried steak. At first he questions the wisdom of frying a steak, but the fact that it is an actual steak more than makes up for it. He has had real steak only once before in his life, and it was after one of the more daring pay days he has had in his life. The week after he had purchased several cars, crashed most of them, a very large amount of drugs, used all of them, and a decent number of high class escorts, and the single steak dinner ended up as one of the most expensive things he has purchased. The thought of deep frying one came across like heating your home by burning imported Yggdrasil wood. The massive pile of fried steaks on the platter he is handed would be worth several million credits on any Valen world, if they were not fried and covered in 'catsup' sauce.

He eats it anyways. When he looks back to Richardson the man waves his hand politely. He has a more modest plate of a slice of meatloaf and some mashed potatoes, with a mixture of rice and vegetables on the side, but he hasn't touched most of it. Anderson waves back, suddenly worried about violating some as yet unknown cultural norm, but the rest of the dinner guests seem to be digging right in, if maybe without quite as much gusto.

"So." richardson says. "Lenny, you spend most of your time on Path?"

"Eye, since ma got old. She won't leave the place though, it means too much to her, so I help her keep the place tidy." Richardson nods.

"That's very nice of you. The campaign is wrapping up, to be honest, but help is help. I take it the coverage isn't very detailed on Path."

"Apart from the big networks, na." Anderson replies.

"So I just have to ask." He says. "What convinced you that you needed to come all the way from Path to help out? Everyone here has some story, and I try to learn all of them. What put such a fire in you to make it all this way?"

>You a fan of Richardson's past career as a preacher
>You have a distant relation to a founder family who were driven off their land
>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
>Other (write in)
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>>3027598
>>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
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>>3027598
>>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
Seems like this would be the easiest lie to fabricate.
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>>3027602
Careful with that.

Information like that may need sourcing. Maybe hive or thesus can feed him specifics that will come up positive on scrutiny
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>>3027598
Each of these options has a follow up question that will be tricky.
>You a fan of Richardson's past career as a preacher
He will ask for examples and probably stuff like "what does blah blah mean to you?'
>You have a distant relation to a founder family who were driven off their land
What family?
>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
Again,what family?
This seems like a community where everyone knows everyone going back 10 generations, so we should minimize mention of our family. Im gonna have to go with being a religious fan, as at least he cant fact check us about something we dont know. Also try throwing in not liking KIllinger.
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>>3027598
>>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
And Anderson knows firsthand how working for the Valen sucks.
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>>3027607
Maybe, but the others seem even worse. Richardson's past career as a preacher demands familiarity with his actual preaching, and being a distant relation of a founder family will prompt figuring out the exact connection. This places looks like it has long-standing and highly-valued family relations.
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>>3027598
>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work

Damn gators don't care about anything but money.
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>>3027598
>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
I'm tempted for some kind of "I can't stand the corruption currently in the capital" play but politics was never my strong suit.
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>>3027598
>The massive pile of fried steaks on the platter he is handed would be worth several million credits on any Valen world,

Guess we're going to have to enter the meat-growing business now guys.

>>3027598
>Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
Anderson knows what the Valen are like and how they operate and can be a very convincing liar. >>3027608 makes a very good point that it would be hard to back this up by pointing to a specific family, but the planet is large and these fellows don't seem all too likely to fact-check. We could claim to have been driven off the land a while ago.
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>>3027621
The Leelend crab thing would probably sell well too.
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>>3027598
Valen owned corporate takeovers drove your family out of work
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>>3027621
We should provide free “steak” and other “real” food to everyone at the concert. The images of young punks eating the equivalent of billions of dollars worth of food (considering the scale) would be amazing.
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>>3027633
We should hire professional cooks too.
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>>3027633
Er, billions of CREDTS worth of luxury food, not dollars. Same difference, though.
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>>3027636
Wouldn’t it be cheaper/faster to cook it ourselves? We’d need to hire hundreds or even thousands of cooks considering the scale of the concert if we wanted others to do it.
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>>3027641
>not having drones with an oven built into them along with food related tools/spice glands
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>>3027641
To make recipes. You know shit we suck at also actual sentient cooks make the food worth more by just being involved.
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>>3027598
"My family was driven into the hab blocks." Anderson says. "Had a place in the country on Path, a nice rice farm, small but we had enough skimmers to keep the thing running most of the year on our own and it paid the rent. Then the agri-corp that owned the rice genes we were using got bought out by a Valen trust and started charging us to use them. We couldn't afford it, and ended up losing the whole farm. Ma's been living in a hab block ever since. They're free, but it's like a closet. I always try to come down to Talgo with the harvest to make some extra, used to do it with my pa till he passed away few years back."

"You'd be surprised how common that story is." Richardson says. Granny Bee leans over as she replaces a bowl of mashed potatoes.

"Them shellbacks need to mind their own bloomin business." she says as she scoops several large clumps of potatoes from a metal pot into the serving bowl. "It ain't right. Union went and bent over backwards for 'em. I'd say we'd drive em into the sea but they'd like that, wouldn't they?" She moves back to the kitchen, ignoring or refusing several requests to sit down and eat with them.

"God loves all of his creatures." Richardson says calmly, "Even the deceitful, cruel, and disloyal." You hear a loud harumph from the kitchen as the door swings shut, and then a loud clamoring of pots and pans. Richardson turns back to you. "Of course things are not quite as bad here as they are on Path, I'm worried that is where we are headed if we don't intervene. Aliens have different mindsets, different moralities, the legal codes humans make for ourselves just can't manage the unintuitive thoughts of the alien mind. The valen use their laws to deliberately prevent humans in their space from owning anything, and yet in the Union, we let them drive innocent people out into the streets." He stabs his meatloaf with a fork, splitting it in half as he pushes one part of it in circles in a puddle of gravy. "I just can't stand by and watch any society that maintains debt internment camps to claim to be on equal footing in a human dominated economy." He quickly eats the small chunk of meatloaf, washing it down with a swig of beer in a tall glass served from several dozen growlers set out on the tables. He lets out a small sigh. "But to tell the truth I don't much enjoy talking about politics at the table. Odd, I know, I'm supposed to be a politician, but I'd much prefer to just get to know the new guy." Richardson points to one of the serving dishes with a gesture of his fork, giving a quick look to one of his guards at the table behind him. The guard simply shakes his head and whispers something as Richardson shrugs and turns back to the table.

"Well, I'd say you missed out on most of the action here. The debates are over. I think now all there is left is some last minute canvassing. You have any experience with politics, Lenny?"

>Yes (write in)
>No
>Other (write in)
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>>3027672
>Yes
>Worked as an errand boy for local candidates back up on Path for some extra money.
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>>3027672
this>>3027675

we can supply him with a good candidate and it will look like lenny has experience in political races.
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>>3027672
>No
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>>3027672
>>No
Don't tell a lie you can't provide an alibi for.

Also we should start thinking of how we can counter Valen own conglomerate expansion in human space. Damn whales.
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>>3027680
>>3027682
We can literally ask theseus to create this history you know
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>>3027683
Fair enough. I'll back >>3027675
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>>3027683
We could also use a tutorial of sorts from Richardson. We don't actually have any direct experience of Union politics from the bottom level, why not get the necessary information on it here?
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>>3027672
>>3027675
Backing
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>>3027672
No
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>>3027675
supporting. But let`s stress it was a minor role we played, so that no thorough investigation against our claims is started.
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>>3027672
Supporting

>>3027675
Provided, of course, Theseus, etc. can get us accurate looking documentation and info.
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>>3027672
"Yea I was a gofer for some years on Path in the magistrate office." Anderson says. "Go fer this, go fer that, typical grunt work but I was able to see how the sausage is made over the years and learned to be able to get real crafty at times to stay on schedule."

"Do you remember which offices you worked with?" Richardson says.

"Shenzhen was one. Did a bit of work in a few others but they were mostly just small time jobs. Run in, get some papers or a signature, get out kinda thing. Shenzhen was the only one I managed to stay in. Guess I backed the wrong horse in the others, usually the magistrate would lose and the new guy'd kick us all out 'fore too long."

"I take it from that you know Pathian, then?" Richardson says.

"Aye, probably not good enough to impress any mega-city fellas but good enough to get by in the country. Language sorta breaks down a bit between the two though." Richardson nods, his attention momentarially taken by one of his security as he leans in and whispers something into his ear. Richardson whispers something back and turns back to Anderson.

"Sounds good." He says. "Lenny, I've known more than a few people with connections on Path. A lot of the seasonal workers around here are real undercity folk, Path doesn't care for them between the taidaren. If you do have any ID, it would make things easier on the security guys, they like to get paranoid at times."

>I don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)
>I don't have a Union ID
>Other (write in)
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>>3027724
>>I don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)

More shadowrunning
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>>3027724
>>I don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)
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>>3027724
>I don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)
Shouldn't be too hard.
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>>3027724
>don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)
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>>3027724
>I don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)

Theseus can credibly pull this off and we need trust before we're going to get anywhere important.
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We'll look kind of silly coming for essentially a job interview without an ID, but that's definitely better than the alternative. Path politicians would definitely demand ID, so claiming not to have one would definitely raise red flags.
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>>3027724
>>I don't have it on me, but I have an ID number (Have Theseus attempt to make a forgery ID number on Path)
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>>3027724
"I do actually, but I've never carried it to Talgo while working. I can give you the ID." Anderson says. Richardson holds up his hand.

"That's fine, we can handle that later." He says. "But I find that the notion of the competent legal team behind the politician is just terribly overrated. Ever since I started preparing for this campaign I've been churning through advisors and managers like, well, seasonal pickers. It seems like everyone with any decent credentials is either corrupt to the point of hurting more than helping, or is an out and out fool with no idea what the real world looks like, and ends up offering the same as the first. Usually it's somewhere between." He takes a quick drink of his beer and shrugs. "When I met the Lee family at one of my rallies, we both seemed to realize the solution to that problem. How could I run a campaign for the real families of Talgo without having it be run by the real families of Taglo?"

>Ask Richardson a question (write in)
>Ask about Talgo in more detail (write in)
>Other
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>>3027753
>>Ask Richardson a question (write in)
"How did you find God?"
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>>3027753
>Ask Richardson a question (write in)
I'd like to know more about his time as a preacher. Although I suppose if he dislikes talking politics in the dinner table religion is probably off too.
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>>3027753
>>Other
I know your opinion on the Shell backs, but what about those new aliens that showed up? I think I heard they have a Lee working for them too.
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>>3027755
>>3027758
Asking about his preaching is good. Frame it like "there's a bit more to your platform than that, right? Not sure about the specifics or if you want to talk about them at the table, but I'm interested in finding out more."

>>3027760
Also supporting.
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>>3027753
>>3027760

Support
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>>3027753
"Speaking of which, I'd like to know a bit more about how you got involved in all this." Anderson says. "I heard you used to be a preacher?"

"Still am, really." He replies. "It's not something you can really quit, and I think of myself more preacher than politician even now. I'm saying the same things, really. What really disappointed me was the backroom dealing going on." He carves up the last of his meatloaf with a knife as he speaks, dividing his eye contact between Anderson and the plate. "I couldn't take it. Ended up just telling them to take a hike and founded my own party. It wasn't my idea though, I have to credit that to Mike." He points his fork across the table to where Mike and his father George continue to discuss various farming matters, maintenance tasks for various harvesters and fuel reserves for the flying cargo drones, and sightings of various invasive species across different crop fields. He turns in your direction to acknowledge the sudden mention.

"Hm?" He says, still chewing a roasted drumstick.

"Just telling Lenny how it was your idea to start up a new party." Richardson says, slightly louder. Mike smiles.

"Ah yea!" He says as he plants the drumstick into a mound of mashed potatoes. "Well word gets around between the families. Anne had been talking with the Enfields, they'd been talking with the O'Connors, them with the Cortezes. Thing of it is we all started realizing we all had our families spread through the small district parties. All it was doing was weakening the planet level influence of the house and letting the corporate donors drown us out. Sure, we could sink or sell a party for our local district, but the Tories don't care what we say. It just got me thinking, if we managed to pool together every family behind one party, just once, we could swing enough districts to hand them major party status. Top that off with a quality candidate, and you've got a winning ticket. So I asked Anne to tell the Enfields, to tell the O'Connors, to tell the Cortezes-" Anne quickly picks up from mid-sentence, swinging the small rice ball on her fork with each new item on the list.

"Who told the Ronnies, who told the O'Haires, who told the Cruzes, who told the Garcias, who told the McDonalds, who told the Barkers, who told the Ashursts, who told the Youngbloods, who told the Whitneys, who told the Chapmans, on and on. Two weeks and a few hundred sewing circles later and every farmer's wife on the planet hears about it." She quickly dunks the rice ball into a small pile of spiced jelly and eats it.

"Once we made the announcement in the house, unanimously, pretty much all the local parties fell in line or just disbanded. Now that the new party is up and running it's absorbed two hundred and seventy three district electoral candidates over the past two days, and we go from an independent vote to a major planetary party over night." Mike finishes. He holds out his own beer glass, toasting it against Anne's.

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>>3027783
This would be hilarious if Richardson really wasn't influenced by the Void and we're just fucking around in Lee's hometown.
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>>3027803
I figure this is just as it seems at this point
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Guys how long does it take to build a Capillary Tower?
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>>3027809
But we still need to see where he stands regarding the horde of alien insects exercising gunboat diplomacy over Gemini. See if our interests align or if he's gonna cause trouble for us in the future.
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>>3027813
Using a hive ship three days I think.
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>>3027803
I’ve been assuming this from the get go personally, but if it even marginally reduces the rampant paranoia of the player base it’s worth it. Besides, if we ever had to replace the union government this guy would be our best bet to take killingers place.
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>>3027803
I've never thought he was void aligned but his anti-xeno stance and growing popularity is a threat we need to keep an eye on.
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>>3027783
"As he says." Richardson says, waving his fork. "Every founding family on the planet, or just abouts, raising their voice at once. For the first time in what seems to be a generation, the people are making themselves heard. It was truly a miracle in the making." He wipes some gravy off with a napkin as he continues.

"Now, I have to say, everyone is saying I should be nervous, but to tell you the truth I'm not even sure if Killinger is even trying to run against me." He folds the napkin back up and places it on his lap. "I suspect he's too busy trying to make himself king."

"What do you mean by that?" Anderson asks. Richardson lets out a small chuckle.

"Oh now, there I go again, mixing business and dinner." He says. "I don't want to spoil such a wonderful meal by speaking on that wicked man's business, nor will I let him drag any of us down by starting any nasty slanders behind his back, but let me just say I think he feels Talgo is a station beneath his self-proscribed stature." He takes of bite of a rice ball, sips his beer and add "and that's all I'll say on that matter."

"Sorry to keep bringing it up." Anderson says.

"No no, it's quite alright. I find it quite difficult to keep to the rule myself. Besides, I won't envy anyone who is given the Tyrant's office in the midst of the end of another great cycle."

"What do you mean?" Anderson asks, leaning in slightly. Richardson looks over, almost confused for a moment before some realization of a lack of context clicks.

"Oh." He says, suddenly realizing what could be unclear in the statement. "It seems the signs are accelerating. It was a century since the start of the cycle, with the expelling of mankind from Earth's Eden. Now, we see once more wars and rumors of wars, great unrest all across the land, and now new xenos appearing out of the blue. The seals are opening again, and I'm convinced more and more every day." Richardson looks out over the horizon for dramatic effect, and in a new, surprisingly forceful voice speaks.

"Then another horse, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and make one man kill another!" He says. "Just because we don't see each sign in chronological order doesn't mean they were not sent by god in the right order. We know there are other Hive Queens, if you ask me, I'm betting their little genocidal civil war of theirs started when a pale hive rode out with crown and bow in whatever they use as a hand. Fortunately, the end times won't be as such for everyone. We started it with the Great Flood, but God made sure there were survivors to live on after that, and he will ensure mankind has survivors after this. All we faithful can do is try and make sure Talgo is ready to weather through whatever god pours down from the bowls of his wrath."

cont.
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>>3027815
The reason I ask is a Capillary Tower has a function that spread creep all across a planet in a day using spores (and I wanted to test out what can be done with psionic spores) which leads to a faster increase of the development score.
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>>3027825
And here we go.
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>>3027825
Desire to know more intensifies.
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>>3027825
I mean it's not actually accurate since the civil war depending on how you look at it begun either before with the weaponization of the void or after with the betrayal of the obsidian queen.
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>>3027825
"So you think the Hives were sent by God?" Anderson says.

"Well, obviously." Richardson says simply. "God made everything and everyone. Aliens included. Just because they don't know what role they play in a cycle doesn't mean they are not playing it right on point."

"I take it you don't much care for them, then?"

"I wouldn't care much for the Angel of Death that descended upon the land of Egypt." He says. "I wouldn't care much for the Canaanites, or the Romans who killed Christ, but to quote the man himself, 'they know not what they do'. They are performing their part of God's plan, like Pharaoh with his hardened heart. Yes, the hives are instruments of God's wrath, but I don't have any personal malice towards them, much for the same reason actually. To despise God's wrath is to miss the point of it entirely. If anything, I rather appreciate how they've put the fear of God bad into those heathens on Gemini. Maybe a few will repent before that whore of babylon falls apart."

"So it sounds like you don't really want Talgo in the Union to begin with."

"I don't think it will be for long." He replies. "Talgo is the families that built it. Talgo will survive, but the Union? The Union is a council of corrupt kings who only serve to sing their own praises. Talgo needs to be ready to live without the Union."

>Ask additional questions (write in)
>Mention Ryan Lee
>Mention Theseus
>Ask more about the Hive (write in)
>Other
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>>3027825

>Then another horse, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and make one man kill another!

So Richardson believes us to be the horseman of war? That's, actually pretty baller as far as what Christians could perceive us as.
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>>3027842
I see...
>Mention Ryan Lee
"I apologize in advance if it might offend you folks, but what about Ryan?"
>Ask more about the Hive (write in)
So you don't think they'll cause any trouble if they stay in the Expanse?
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>>3027842
>Ask additional questions (Ask him about his dreams)
>Mention Ryan Lee
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>>3027842
Mention Ryan Lee

I dont think we should metion thesues as that is a really odd question to ask that could raise red flags with the security staff given what we said about our cover story
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>>3027842

Backing
>>3027846

Should we flavour it in a religious manner though, maybe to keep the guy more comfortable? Asking what Ryan's role in the plan might be and whether the hive that represents war would stay within the expanse, or would that seem too suspicious?
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>>3027854
I'll support asking if he believes the Hives will attack the union.
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>>3027842
Well what's the alternative then? Independence? Commonwealth? Valen? Unity?

I don't think Talgo has the space navy to stand alone.
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>>3027842
"Do you think they will cause any trouble if they stay in the expanse?"

"Well for the most part I take them on faith for what they say. I suspect they've been in that region for longer than we've known, and I suspect they've been causing trouble for us for longer than we've known. They carry God's wrath, of course they bring trouble, them and that Golem of ours, but nothing, no matter how horrible, is outside of God's accounting. When the day comes for Satan to be unchained from the lake of fire and be given dominion over the nations, God will still be in control."

"Well I mean, I just ask because this is such a wonderful family, I mean they can't be all bad if one of them made friends with a Lee, right?" Anderson says. Several people at the table stop eating. You feel the growing number of eyes upon you as an uncomfortable silence grows over the room for a few very long moments.

"Wonderful meal. Think I'm stuffed." George says. He stands from the table and carries his plate to the kitchen as Anne quickly rises from her own seat, whispering something to Mike as she quickly collects several empty or mostly empty plates from the table and rushes back into the kitchen. Mike watches her go before turning back to Anderson.

"Think it be best to not bring my brother up too much." He says. "Especially around Dad."

"It's them damn weird hobbies a his." Leeroy says. "Grown ass man playing with those dolls a his."

"You know it was a wargame." Mike says in a hushed voice.

"Oh not you too." He says. "He spends all his time on the net, watching kid shows and playing with his 'wargame' with xeno kids." He says, adding air quotes for emphasis. "He can't throw a football straight, can't pilot a harvester, and hell the damn things drive themselves. I figured he'd just grow into it, be a late bloomer, but you heard him on the vids? He don't even talk right anymore. Like he's embarrassed of his own accent, standing up there in fronta parliament talking like a damn Geminise. How long you think he practiced that fake accent, just to make sure nobody knew he was from Talgo?"

"Grandad." Mike says. "That's enough."

"Oh it's plenty enough alright. Kid has plenty here, I figure it may not be the PDF but at least he'd get some discipline in the Space Forces, maybe make his own Lee farm on some new uncharted world!" He says with mock excitement. "At least when we thought he was dead the treason claims weren't proven!"

"Leeroy!" Mike says, his hand slamming on the table. The room becomes suddenly silent as the old man looks back at the rest of the room, and then gets up from the table.

"Gonna go fix that shake in the engine." He says, and he walks out the door.

"I'm really sorry." Anderson says quickly. "I didn't-"

"It's fine." Mike says back. "Ryan, he's... we've just been through a lot recently on that subject. Be best to avoid it." Suddenly the kitchen door erupts open as Anne pushes out a small cart covered with pies.

"Who's got room for dessert?"
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>>3027880
And it is five in the morning, I think this is a good place to call it a night.

I'll stick around a bit for any questions, comments, ect. before heading off to bed for the...morning.
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>>3027881
So you got those handheld photon projectors statted out?
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>>3027880
>When the day comes for Satan to be unchained from the lake of fire and be given dominion over the nations, God will still be in control.
I can't decide if this guy would try to hurry Satan taking over to carry out Gods will or not.
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>>3027881
Are the Valen on Gemini dead?

And I think I'd be OK with Richardson gaining some power here. Seems like a right stand-up fella. The Lee family's alright, bit old-fashioned, but can't blame 'em. It just seems like "normal human person doing normal human things" hour here.
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Thanks for running another quest for us lowly peasents. Been wondering if we should start a PMC company led by Lyle so we can make that money. And we should definately make our own food business. Seeing as a steak is worth more than a car! We could sell good tasting food fot reasonable prices! We can change the galaxy with this.
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>>3027881
thank for running
GG
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>>3027888
An useful stooge I suppose but I wouldn't trust him to not try to bring about the apocalypse if his God asked him.
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>>3027881

Cheers for running QD, brilliant job with Emmerich and the Void shifting in and out of reality during that fight. Didn't realise it was on purpose until that other anondrone pointed it out.
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>>3027892
If we can help him understand that the Void/Watchers are literally Satan, I think he'd go against them. God's fury is righteous, but the Devil should be despised. He doesn't see the Hive as anything demonic, which is a plus already.

So I suppose while he'd be vulnerable to Void influence in general, I don't think the enemy has touched him yet.
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>>3027886
What kind of specifications are you looking for, exactly?

>>3027888
No, but it looks like the embassy is decreasing its valen staff rather heavily.
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>>3027881
Thanks for running QD!
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>>3026168
Lyle is the Queen's favorite adopted son for a reason.
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>>3027286
>Lyle, strongest human, and beloved of mother.
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Thanks for running QD!
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>>3026497
so like a xenomorph but even bigger?
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>>3028097
More like yer mum but smaller.
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>>3028102
dont insult mother queen is best BUT you can insult my biological mother that hairy dwarf can suck salt
also i am just thinking of some fucker finding a egg then it grows fucking huge in minutes
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>>3027020
>Hive black ops in psionically insulated battlesuits, wielding anti-psy blades, with mini-thinker buddies connecting them directly to the hive, which can be detached to completely isolate the black-ops.
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>>3027899
Info for adding them to a drone design.
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>>3027899
Thanks for running QD

Poor whales. We should at least say SOMETHING to calm them down. Their extreme fear of the Hive could easily turn dangerous to us if not managed carefully.

>>3028115
Mother’s fertility is boundless and the size of her booty truest knows no limits.
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>>3027803
Yeah but consider:

>>3027825
>"Then another horse, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and make one man kill another!" He says. "Just because we don't see each sign in chronological order doesn't mean they were not sent by god in the right order. We know there are other Hive Queens, if you ask me, I'm betting their little genocidal civil war of theirs started when a pale hive rode out with crown and bow in whatever they use as a hand.

A White Hive with a "Bow" (The psionic canon) fits what he says pretty well and we haven't disclosed either our mother or her weapon to anyone yet. While the war obviously wasn't started by our Mother, that would certainly be the kind of propaganda that the Void would share. If Richardson has been having these visions ( of war that display the Red Hive as essentially an agent of evil and as the latest step in an apocalypse that started with the firing of the psionic canon, that's still suspicious enough we should consider investigating.

It's also ironic because we are trying very hard to KEEP the humans from killing each other, while Richardson is the one who wants the Union to fall apart. The collapse of the Union in its entirety would almost certainly be to the benefit of the Void and it's agents...
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>>3028160
Well, you gotta add that the Horsemen are explicitly not evil.
In the old texts they are either nephalem, descendants of angels and demons combined, and they destroyed the rest of their own kind because their power was too great (hmm).
They do not bring the apocalypse about because of malice, but because it's what is required of them by God, simply because that is their nature. (Hmm... inter-hive wars detroying entire planets/"worlds")

It's legit spooky how well the Hives fit as horsemen of the apocalypse.
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>>3028160
Honestly i'm seeing the Hive more like the angel who blow the horns when the apocalypse starts rather then the ones that bring it.

Richardson could still be being influenced by the void since we already saw that Seiner was able to give Jack a fake epiphany. I can see Emmeruch or the void doing the same to old Richardson.

But i guess it would be better for everyone if he just hit the sack and get replaced by one of our clones.
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>>3028162
I think Richardson is one of those phew humans who escaped mom genetic clean up. After so many years mutations could be possible the scariest part it wasn't even him wanting to form his own party but Mike, who got him to start doing it.

I guess Richardson is a good option instead of Killinger in the end if the Union survive and Killinger gets killed for becoming the king(Pharoah) and drowing his own army and himself in his hubris.
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>>3028167
>We should kill him
>>3028170
>We should make him leader
Hmmm.
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If the void knows we like adopting things, doesn't this guy seem like really good bait?
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>>3028179
Exactly
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>>3028167
>>3028170
>>3028160
Honestly, there's a surprisingly easy way to make Richardson adopt a pro-Hive stance: We just gotta convince him that the Hives are not bringing the end of a cycle for Humanity, but rather for their own kind. (The old cycle starting with the First Queen ascending beyond 3 dimensional reality and ending when the Red Queen and her fellow Horsemen of the Apocalypse finish tearing the Enemy in the Void apart, destroying the last remnants of the Ancient Hives for good and starting anew, with the Red Queen as the soon-to-be successor of the First)

Also, it honestly might help to let him know that the Ancient Hives freely performed Genesis followed by raptures on countless worlds, led by their arrogance and beliefs of supremacy. A practice which ends with this cycle, a new respect for the sanctity of life replacing it in the new one that's starting. (Like the First Queen said, Red appreciates life MUCH more than her predecessors, as she has had to struggle and fight for it every step of the way, unlike the lives of luxury and dominance the old ones were born into.)
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>>3028170
I have a suspicion that the Lee family generally may be more psionically inclined than most humans. Consider, for example, that Ryan Lee did much better with the psionic experiments the Union were doing on him than any other human even before the Hive made any modifications to Lee.

If Richardson is a latent psychic, it would make sense why he would ally with the Lee family if my theory is correct.

Patent psionic abilities and prophetic dreams may also suggest there is a hidden Void Shard somewhere on Talgo
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>>3028192
What's that? More ammo to store away until we re-develop and perfect mother's psionic cannon to tear the Enemy apart with fragments of their own self?
Time to collect.
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>>3028191
>We just gotta convince him that the Hives are not bringing the end of a cycle for Humanity, but rather for their own kind.
It sounds to me like this cycle for humanity is something he embraces as God's will and plan, rather than opposes and wants to prevent or interrupt.
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>>3028222
Well, he'd surely appreciate that a cycle is not coming to an end in his time, that he and his people don't have to live through an apocalypse, but rather have the chance to further prepare for the future end of the cycle and acquire an ally that can and would ferry them through the next Great Flood and protect them if needed.
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>>3027526
We should set up city-sized farms of all kinds of terran, valen, ceph, skyl and taldaren foods (and maybe design some kinds of "traditional" Hive cuisine) to sell or give out to our allies, along with chef drones made specifically to be the best chefs in the galaxy, and win the alliance of all sentient beings through the fastest way posdible: the stomach.
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>>3028236
Chef drones is an awesome idea and has my support. We can create all kinds of delicious food for the masses. Just don’t let them see how it’s made.
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>>3028241
How dare you! All chef drones are personally certified professional culinary experts by the Red Queen herself!
There is nothing objectionable to how they prepare their exotic delights! All their bodily fluids are sterile and are absolutely impossible to taste and smell.
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>>3028241
>>3028247
Hey if humans can eat Kopi Luwak which is the the most expensive coffee in the world (currently), which is made from the droppings of a civet.

They can eat food made by drones bodly fluids.
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>>3028236
>>3028241
>>3028247
>>3028257
Chef drones would need to be designed with advanced olfactory, visual and taste senses and their antennae would absolutely have to mimic a stereotypical italian chef mustache.

extra pairs of arms would also be a plus.
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>>3028236
I think it was mentioned earlier, but we should give away “free samples” of our amazing food at the concert. It should help make us some easy friends.

Speaking of the concert, we should also probably offer some easy detox/addiction removal service for everyone who attends. It would help us significantly with PR
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I feel bad for lee.

Such a good boy, never appreciated by his family.
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>>3028280
They shall appreciate him when the Hive officially states that "if there were less Lees and more Killingers among humanity, it would be destroyed" or something more or less elegant.
Speakers are better at speaking than thinkers.
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>>3028285
if this speaker may be permitted, amended statement could go as

"It was the Ryan lee who taught us the value of humanity, the fact they are worthy of discussion and friendship.
Others have challenged this view, but it is the Lee who keeps our faith in you alive."

Stoking their pride, complimenting and slight treat all in one quote.
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>>3028290
This Speaker is very good at speaking.
That is a great speech the speaker spoke.
It should be sufficient.
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>>3028304
this thinker thanks you for the praise, it thinks the speaking could be better when spoken by a speaker but the speakers may speak it as it is intended to be spoke, better than thought by a thinker.
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A chef drone would amazing, we should probaly give him multiple arms and all the sensory upgrades. But would he be a speaker as well?
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>>3028418
Drones only get two arms and can't really taste stuff.
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>>3028423
>time to research approaches....
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>>3028423
Not if we specifically design one to be a chef with advanced senses of taste and smell.
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>>3028418
So a speaker with multiple arms.....Fellow thinkers, what if we put on hive entertainment food?

Food is produced right in front of the guests, "steak" floating in mid air as it is cut into dozens of pieces and dispersed like some old "thousand cuts" samuri movie.
Make rice waves rove through the air before being dipped in a sauce and making a picture of a drone in a chefs hat before dispersing onto plates.

Shit like that, really rake in the big bucks. i suppose we could do that without psionics, but that just adds an extra layer of cool. as well as shock for visiting dignitaries.
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>>3028451
Our drones don't have adaptions for tasting food. Hell have you ever read the fluff for how eating food works for a drone? There was never a reason to develop the adaptation you wish for because drones can't even eat food like a sentient. That's not even getting into the fact that the only major race that cares for taste like that is the humans.
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>>3028456
The six limb body plan is one of the few things that are universal for all hive drones, altering that is virtually impossible without turning it into something that can’t really be called a drone. You might want to read the paste bins sometime, the older ones do an excellent job of defining the qualities of our species.
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>>3028290
Good job speaker, excellent speaking with the best words.

Once Gemini stops being an utter shit-show (haha, like that will ever happen) we might want to let Lee go home to visit his family (assuming we don’t find influence of void corruption). The reaction of the family is too unpredictable for us to make it any kind of press event, but it could help smooth things over. And if the Lees do have some psionic potential it would be useful to have them on our side.

>>3028456
>Use thermokinesis to roast the steak invisibly as it floats in the air.
Amazing

>>3028433
Actually, do we have speakers specifically designed to speak Valen, Taidaren, Canian, Skyl, or Ceph? I know some of the speakers have mimetic skin which would probably help with the Ceph at least. If not, we should probably develop alternate speaker types.
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>>3028492
>needing multiple speaker types
Why?
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>>3028501
because we can?
to say "we made these speakers JUST for you, don't you feel special and privileged?" and other shit like that
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>>3028508
I repeat. Why? There is no real point. The only thing you could convince me of is to create speakers for different environments since that's a practical reason otherwise you should go for the Valen/Unity approach to interspecies diplomacy (which can't be done with the our current drones).
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>>3028532
Not sure what you mean by unity approach.

But i figured different enviroments was already done for practicality, this is just because we can and maybe to make the recipients feel special/ relaxed with the familiar.
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>>3027213
HahahaHAHAHAHA FUCKIN LOVE BESTBOII LYLE....beats a void ghost puppeted by the concentrated hate god born of malice and violence to death with the super structure of a space city, unlocks research.
QD im going to compile this story into a pdf format like AGP when you finish. Your work is too god to NOT do so
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>>3028543
The Valen and Unity use drones that look just like the race they are trying to communicate with. That's something we can't do currently.
>maybe to make the recipients feel special/ relaxed with the familiar.
Not happening. Bug aliens are not comforting to be around.
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>>3028560
What are you talking about? All beings are supposed to feel safe and at home around Mother's children.
Are they defective?
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>>3028560
The untiy idea was what i was going for. look as similar as we can make them.
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>>3028570
Other races rarely feel comfortable around us, the only exception is when they are surrounded by their friends and allies.
>>3028574
We don't have the tech for it.
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>>3028581
>We can perfectly clone other species but we don’t have the tech to speak their native languages.

What the fuck are you on about?
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>>3028581
stylized chitin.
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>>3028584
We don't have the tech to look like them. However we don't know the limits of the vocalizer so I can't say if we can speak like a Valen or Ralighan but I doubt it.
>>3028588
Why not just stick to clones instead of trying to fit a round peg in a square hole?
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Psionic multiarmed super chef is the best idea ever! Hell we could probaly make a warrior version of it. We would make so much money from the shows. It would be like a super hibachi grill, we just got to come up with a great restraunt food chain name. And then have food chains all across the galaxies!
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Also stylized chitin eould be a great idea to have people more comfertable around our speakers, but the real question is.. do we want people to be more comfertable? Fear has its uses. But at the same time it would really help us out when we want to make deals. The valen are afraid of us and we dont have any money deals with em besides our undercover company.
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>>3028621
who wants to be a hive queen?

We are the hive board of directors for "Hive grills"
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Also about the whole drones not being made to taste things, we could always clone some psionic humans and still have our shows. Also in the future if someone tries to rob one of our stores our super clones can beat the shit out em. I can see it now.. some druggie comes in wanting to rob the place and then our psionic clones (or chef drone) just psionicly starts throwing knifes at those darn robbers. Great entertainment for all. Bring your kids to FormOther grill :D 30% off for first timers!
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Hive Grills sounds so much better.
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>>3028641
I remember our description of warriors on a scav ship........Throwing knives is not needed, a simple warrior took a shotgun to the chest without flinching if i remember right.
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>>3028628
Hmm.. I wonder how undercover it is anymore, and how many of the Valen have made the connection between FormOther's efficient and cheap Fusion Reactors and the "alien race in the Expanse" that is totally not the Hive.
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Well a psionic warrior can have its uses, such as redirecting missiles towards the enemy or throwing grenades back and so on. I think our lack psionic troops is pretty sad, we are a pretty strong psionic race we should use the shit out of it. Hell psionic weaponry should be next on our list. Psionic guns able to go through armor and shields would be awesome!
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Also your absolutely right about the valen, we may be sneaky but they will figure it out eventualy.
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The thing i wonder is will they still want to do business with us when they find out?
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>>3028663
We should start fielding tank drones (heavy warriors/Colossii) outfitted as mobile advanced relays, serving as psychic artillery.
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In other news, why have we not deployed Planet Seeders to every single one of our new planets in the Expanse?
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>>3028692
Just that there have been lots of happenings and we only just obtained the planets. I agree we should mass-deploy planet seeders

I think we already voted to develop several planets also
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I just remembered that we have yet to rename G-426
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Psychic artillery woyld be nice, and i cant wait to see how many ships we can make once we get the whole expanse colonized.
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>>3028724
It'll take months of in game time to completely colonize them. Only way around that wait is to build Capillary Towers and then spore the planet.
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>>3028724
Also another I forgot to mention is most of the systems have very low resource scores so terraforming is necessary if you want to effectively expand the empire.
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>>3028557
please do so. I have people I want to reccomend this story too who cannot stomach reading threads on 4chan, and are too imageboard illiterate to skip thread discussion and filter for Questdrone posts.

I have wanted to do the same thing for a long time but I just havent had the motivation.
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>>3028844
Looks like planet terraforming takes only 14 days with weather spires. Since weather spires are different from capillary towers, we may be able to get the planets developed in even less time than that:

From the pastebin:
>Planet seeders - Essentially a Hive Creep in reverse, these layers of nanomachines are placed the surface of a dead world, growing over rock and barren surfaces during the terraforming process. The resulting carpet of hive material churns the stone and drives roots kilometers into the crust of the planet, breaking it into loose soil and infusing it with nutrients, nitrates, carbon compounds, water, and other life supporting materials to make the ground fertile for life. The process looks very similar to Overharvesting, but in reverse, with the result a vibrantly fertile planet ready to be seeded with life from the Hive's own genetic archive of studied flora and fauna. This process does not effect the atmosphere in any way, and life may still require alterations to the air quality, or lack thereof before a proper biosphere can take hold, requiring the use of a network of weather spires. A typical habitable planet would require a week for a weather spire network to produce a habitable atmosphere, and would need to be maintained until the planet's surface was made self-sustaining. The cost of deploying planet seeders is 10,000N 10,000M, and doubles exponentially every day for a week as the seeders spread across the planet, and then divide by half each day for another week. By the end of the 14 day period the planet is host to the first stage of a self-sustaining biosphere, holding fields of adaptable grass, moss, and small simple creatures designed to perpetuate the biosphere through natural means. The resulting biosphere will not contain any adaptations to study, but can benefit from any adaptations known to the hive, and may create life that mimics or is similar to life studied on other worlds. Once the process is complete the biosphere can be altered and added to to create more elaborate or distinctive creatures.
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>>3028910
Terraforming is for raising the nutrient score and the Capillary Tower are for raising the development score (also are able to raise the Development score above 100). Development score is what determines how developed the planet is.
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>>3028557
You do me too much honor. I have my twitter set to accept PMs (unless it changed that on its own again after an update) so please, feel free to ping me anytime.

>>3028492
Honestly I've meant to have you get new speaking organ adaptations since the start of the quest, but honestly your current parrot-like beak speaker can approximate most of the noises used in most languages already, Valen is sorta the odd one out, so once you manage to get a proper biological study, which will likely happen at some point during the concert, you'll finally get access to some valen speaking organs.

Ralighan drumming can also be approximated with clicking in the same frequencies, but if you'd like to go all out I can think of something. As it is the local hive buildings make announcements using the ventilation towers as pipes, funneling drumming sounds out of them in a similar manner as the locals when using their hollow trees for long range communication.
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>>3029043
So how quickly can we develop a planet with Capillary towers again? And the terraforming options for planets in our empire are a little hard to keep track of.
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>>3028621
>>3028628
>>3028641
>>3028646
>>3028663
>>3028669
>>3028670
>>3028724
Oh hey, you're back spamming anon. Nice to see you're sticking around, keep it real
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>>3028910
>the cost doubles every day for a week, then is halved every day the next week
Hmm.. so the cost of terraforming a completely barren rock into a perfect spot for life to grow and to develop the planet is 1.905.000 Nutrients and Metals, plus a weather spire network.

How does that compare to churning out one Hive Ship after another?
Like, which is more cost-efficient? Or at least gives us the more bang for our buck?
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>>3029202
It takes more than just Weather Spires I think. It also takes the Core Activation thing too.
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>>3029216
Well, isn't that just for planets who don't even have an active magnetic field?
We could probably skip that step with some if not most of our newly acquired planets.
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>>3029229
Not just planets with no magnetic fields. It's for defrosting ice planets as well.
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>>3029202
Depends on the worlds nutrient rating. I'd expect barren worlds to benefit from all discovered nutrient boosts so shit like greenwall and greystalk would boost even a rather resource poor world into the 50+ region.
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>>3029361
Not quite. Blood root tree sap and the spore paste are not possible on most planets.
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>>3029406
Thing is we're engineering the planets with terraforming. It would be rather silly to not make it compatible with the best crops available.
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>>3029409
I don't think you get it. Those crops have special requirements that prevent them from being used. So we are limited in what we can currently use.
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>>3029435
All I'm seeing is tendency to be eaten by pests and requiring plenty of sunlight. Sunlight is a slightly limiting factor but considering how often barren planets are close to the local sun I don't see it as that big of a problem.
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>>3029473
Are you talking about the Grey stalks or the ones I mentioned?
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>>3029043
You know what I miss.

Playing shopping. >>>/tg/35934822 We haven't even touched that since HQQ 28.5, and it has vast potential for purchasing single items to reverse engineer.

When can we ever manage to set aside a time to do that though? There's some unknown technology we know are out there that we've heard of, but there's also some unknown unknowns to find by browsing.
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>>3030170
We could outsource shopping by allowing people to purchase goods from within the expanse, transported by us in bulk for exceptionally good rates, from any places outside. That should "catch" the consumer side of things, without costing us anything but transports. The valuable things will probably be much harder to find than that, Valen shopping playground potential notwithstanding.
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>>3030281
Oh, whoops. Meant directly insourcing expanse commerce through us, the very opposite thing of what I said.
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>>3030170
Shopping would be nice, but the issue is since we are acting openly the hive can pretty much afford to buy anything we want. There isn’t that much fun in just saying “I BUY EVERYTHING!”

In the thread you linked we owned 8 corvettes and 4 frigates - 12 ships in total. We now own over 12,000 ships (assuming the new fleets come online I think we’re that big), and are easily the most powerful faction in “civilized” space (Scavs, Ceph, and OQ don’t count).
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>>3030281
Another reason to give the Valen a reason to like us, or if not “like” at least try to make the Valen not so terrified of the hive that we can at least meet to talk trade.
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>>3029043
Do you have a discord instead? Because I am one of those lamefags who dislikes social media. I suppose I could make one if no other communication line is open.
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>>3030658
The "new" ships are obsolete before they were even built. All of them were built to be very expensive and high tech but people are starting to realize that's terrible against the Ceph now that we fought (it still annoys me that they only just realized this).
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>>3030702
You act like the Ceph are the only enemy we will ever fight, while this is actually the only time we actually fought, and we managed to rout them.

I agree we should invest in light, fast, and cheap “anti-Ceph” ships and fleets, but calling our new fleet obsolete is frankly wrong.
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>>3030723
>You act like the Ceph are the only enemy we will ever fight, while this is actually the only time we actually fought, and we managed to rout them.
We also lost several ship which is a big problem considering they are design with "no causalities" in mind. I wouldn't be surprised if the losses hit us harder than their losses did for them, especially since they get most of their resources back.
>calling our new fleet obsolete is frankly wrong.
There have been people discussing how some of the designs are outright shit in the last couple of months. Some of designs don't even do what they are supposed to be designed for. Also when we fight the Black Queen, she'll likely start using plasma lances more which will bypass all of our defenses which we have been stuffing our ships with if they land a hit.
Really all the designs are only usable if we maintain the tech advantage which we could lose at any time.
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>>3030764
Our advanced tech is one of the reasons the OQ hasn’t swamped us with overwhelming numbers. I agree we are on a strict time limit as soon as we start losing any ships to the OQ where she can recover the tech - that would be bad for us.

I also agree some of the ship designs could be improved a lot. Instead of complaining: what specific ship designs do you want to change and what do you propose instead?
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>>3030702
To be frank nothing deals well with ships that are lightning fast and ignore all forms of protection, and given our experiences with other Ancient-Enemy types I can't imagine that the standard hive tactics of spamming cheap ships would do much better against the Ceph either.

Some of the Heavy Fleet ships feature bulkheads and/or swarm hangars, both of which effectively given them 'more health'. That's about the only thing that we can presently do to a given ship to give us a better shot against the Ceph.
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>>3030764
>The OQ will be able to nullify the tech advantage we've taken this long to build up at any time.
I don't see it happening without warning. Also plasma lances are very limited weapons. Ours only work so well because we got enhanced magnetic field focusing tech for them to greatly expand their range.
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>>3030702
They were never designed to fight the Ceph but the scavs and OQ.
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I think that if we ever want to desing ships to fight the ceph we will need to research this two techs.

>Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.

>Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.
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I think the most effective weapon against the Ceph is the psionic jammer. We just need to figure out a way to retain combat effectiveness during jamming.
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>>3031100
They would both certainly help with dogfighting with large numbers of small craft.
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>>3031009
Personally I don't think they are really good for Scavengers or the Black Queen (we don't even know everything either has to make that call) but most of the designs come from the wiki and are built on poorly thought out design philosophies like the ship boarding design is fucking terrible. Designs should be flexible but occupy some niche. The ship boarding design does neither and should be split into multiple fleet each handling different role.
I think those roles should go like this:
1.)The actual boarding fleet (most likely made up of a cruiser and two frigates) so we can deploy it against Scavengers and smugglers in our system.
2.)A logistics fleet (most likely made up of a single ship equipped with a full scale Rip drive) that can both be used for transportation of our smallcraft, transportation of civilian and allied ships, and abducting the Scavenger like the orginal design wants to but doesn't go obsolete after that.
3.)An optional point defense fleet (low defense corvettes with lot's of autoguns) that can be deployed for point defense against missiles and fighters as well as deposable meat shields.
4.)Fleet of blaster fighters since blaster fighters are so versatile they might as well be a dedicated fleet and can be moved around via Rip drive.

Now we have four versatile fleets that can used in a variety of situation and don't instantly become obsolete after a single successful mission requiring a vote to refit the damn thing for some other purpose which was one of my biggest problems with the boarding fleet.
It'll take some time to go through the rest of the fleets.
>>3030940
That's not true. The lances are dangerous no matter the range and only get better the longer range.
>>3030831
You mean like corvettes? The ships that are meant to shoot down missiles and fast moving fighters. The same ships the players and ship designers often forget about since they aren't big, flashy, or destructive. Hell I think someone has even mentioned in one of the prior threads that we don't have enough corvettes and PD is our weakest area.
It's almost as if I have a point here.
>>3030785
Well I just went through one of the most poorly thought through designs. I'll see if I can pick through the rest. I can also provide more detailed fleet designs if you want. Also I don't post on the wiki anymore so it's going to be dumped here.
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>>3031119
Here's a hint. You would need something to integrate a nonpsionic system that think, act, and communicate without psionics. Maybe some sort of AI computer system would do.
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>>3031185
Classifying one or two subcapitals as a fleet is silly. We moved away from handling small numbers of ships exactly because the numbers were becoming burdensome to handle.
>That's not true. The lances are dangerous no matter the range and only get better the longer range.
This is just flat out wrong. Plasma lances are the epitome of short range massive damage with a range essentially in knife fighting distance.
>You mean like corvettes? The ships that are meant to shoot down missiles and fast moving fighters. The same ships the players and ship designers often forget about since they aren't big, flashy, or destructive. Hell I think someone has even mentioned in one of the prior threads that we don't have enough corvettes and PD is our weakest area.
I actually agree and have been looking at some super cheap corvettes at around the 500 N 1500 M range.
>Well I just went through one of the most poorly thought through designs. I'll see if I can pick through the rest. I can also provide more detailed fleet designs if you want. Also I don't post on the wiki anymore so it's going to be dumped here.
Of course. I'd be happy to see the wiki get cleaned up of substandard ship, fleet and swarm designs.
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>>3031119
i have a crazy idea...we do what we saw in Seiners scrying of the future. We fill corvette ships with a full clone crew and let then use the jammers.

>>3031149
Considering that the Ceph seem to focus in doing dog figthing that would be my take too. That or lots and lots of corvettes.
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>>3031185
>That's not true. The lances are dangerous no matter the range and only get better the longer range.

Ummm what? Sorry but that’s just not true. The range was increased from “very short range only” to merely “short” range, but the lances absolutely don’t get better with long range. That’s insane and would make them objectively the best possible weapon. Pastebin description is below:

Plasma Lance – A twisting vortex of magnetic fields guide a powerful plume of superheated plasma towards the target, dealing massive damage and cooking the ship’s interior. Due to the nature of the weapon, the plasma dissipates rapidly, making it only viable at very close range, such as during boarding actions.
Dmg: Very high Thermal
RoF: High
Rng: short
Acc: Low
Special: Slow Roast – This weapon bypasses the target’s armor and shields entirely, cooking the crew alive and melting critical ship functions.
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>>3031203
Here's a hint, you're not actually that smart and acting like you are isn't doing you any favours.
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>>3031185
I can agree we need better corvettes but i'm terrible with the ship building desing.

But why equip the figthers with blaster is we can equip then with plasma lance? Although maybe you are right and the interceptors figther screen would work better with the blaster who work better the more ships you have.
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>>3031212
Additionally, many of our corvettes have the lances as their point defense... which due to the low accuracy and range is a bad design decision. The lances should be on turrets.
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>>3031212
Can we equip our figthers with plasma lance?
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>>3031228
I’m not sure? I hope so. That would definitely be the way to go for them.

I haven’t looked at ship building in over a year, but I may try my hand at it again.
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>>3031233
Because if we can. Researching the gravity thrusters and the swarm tunning could give us a equivelant although much more short ranges striker craft as the valen.
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>valen

And i just brain farter i meant to say a strike craft just like the ceph
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>>3031267
No worries mate, it happens to everyone.

Fighters would be really strong vs Ceph in most circumstances, but our best weapon vs Ceph is the jammer. I’m not 100% sure if our fighter sceen would be able to stay effective without communications.
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>>3031286
Maybe we should develop some non-tachyonic swarm coordination methods.
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>>3031288
Pure hive can't do it. An idea would be to make a swarm fighter that's actually a Ceph Chimera or something.
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>>3031293
Not a bad idea at all, although I know historically the idea of a “chimera commander” has been highly controversial, to say the least.

still, they would provide a strong way to continue command and control even under jamming without crippling ourselves. That’s powerful for us.
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>>3031297
Nah commanders wouldn't work because drones don't function well without direct tachyon communications. I mean having the entire wing of swarm fighters be chimera.
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>>3031293
Definitely, hive biology is inherently tachyonic for communication. It would have to be either technological (like something Theseus might make) or have non-Hive biology in it, like
>>3031293
suggested.

There might be other ways to get around psi-jamming. Not sure. But the Void craft should have a hard time with it, since interaction with the Void is tachyonic and I'm not sure there's a way around that.
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>>3031305
Could just make some plain normal Ceph or Human clones. We just need to unlock the pilot skill set for our human clones.
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>>3031313
Seems backwards to have both a ship and a pilot when they can be the same thing.
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>>3031324
Might take some work to engineer a biological ship that doesn't use tachyonic communication, like all Hive drones do. But sure, meld a chimera skull into a drone ship, if we can figure it out without too much trouble.
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>>3031348
Works for me.
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>>3031348
>>3031364
The simplest way to do that will be equipping quantum brains to our ships and fighters and then ingraining in them emergency non-psionic communications protocols, perhaps lifted from Theseus since so he has been employing networked drone tactics for his fighters.

QD has stated however that creating drones that dont use psionic communications at all is equivalent to birthing someone who is crippled from the start.

You would most likely be better off creating fully mechanical ships piloted by clones/replicants than creating a psionically blind hive ship and expecting it to function similarly to regular psionically linked hive ships.
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>>3031399
Can thinker brains survive high Gs?

I would be fine your other suggestion as a practical solution, but it might upset the Union and maybe even the Commonwealth for us to be mass-cloning humans.

Maybe we could even go fully mechanical? At that point we're just talking about using silicate or Theseus technology though, and it's certainly not our forte. We do biology.
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>>3031407
Judging from the fluff of the Spore Cannon, unlikely. Though that does not preclude the possibility that we might be able to engineer a thinker variant that can withstand high-G maneuvers.
Regarding the clones, neither the Commonwealth nor the Union need to know that those heavy hive fighters are piloted by human clones.
I was going to say that we could use other species to pilot the ships, but Ceph are naturally psionically sensitive, so that would impair them in a combat environment where a Psionic Jammer is active, and I don't even know if Ralighans or Taidaren can even pilot fighter ships.

Also, just had an idea about scaling up the non-sentient Carapace Suits used by our clones troops into pilotable fightercraft, though I'm still waiting for QD to confirm my assumptions on Ask.
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>>3031422
Come to think of it, human brains can't survive high Gs either.

It seems like we're having a hard time getting immunity to psi jamming and something that plays to our strengths at the same time.

>Also, just had an idea about scaling up the non-sentient Carapace Suits used by our clones troops into pilotable fightercraft, though I'm still waiting for QD to confirm my assumptions on Ask.
I think you might be on to something. Top Gun in space and with more chitin.
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Quantum thinkers still suffer from the same problem of not working well with non-psionic instructions though to a lesser extent. We need something that can improvise competently on vague commands.
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>>3031450
Yeah, I'm more and more convinced that human brains are what fits the bill the best. Independent and unaffected by psi jamming, but still biological so we're good at making them.
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>>3031470
Ceph or Phantom for me. Can you imagine fighting a swarm of fighters that become an indistinct mass for anyone looking at them? I admit that it's just my conjecture based on Ceph evolutionary history but I think they'd make for the best pilots/ships.
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>>3031476
Ooh, Phantom would be interesting. I have no idea how well they fare at war, though. Their effect only seems to really show up when a lot of them cooperate on it, and our next tech advance on psionic cloaking that the Scarred Queen is working on works on a planetary scale:

>Psionic cloak amplification
>Fast
>Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

If we can get this to work on swarms of fighter ships it's certainly tech we haven't developed yet.

As for Ceph, they make good pilots but aren't they vulnerable to tachyon effects? What exactly was the mechanism that made our jammer effective against the Ceph attack?
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>>3031498
It's effective against tachyon comms which the void cutters are dependent on. It also looked like their tech didn't work great during jamming.
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>>3031498
>Psionic Cloaking
>A complex practice naturally accomplished by the Phantoms under the care of the Barren Queen, you have been instructed in the basics, and extensive practice among the Phantom locals has made you exceedingly efficient in the process, using carefully woven mental signals to broadcast a sense of non-existence. While this process is most effective against being sensitive to tachyonic radiation, it can be used against virtually any organic being. A psionic race may find entire patches of planet voided from their minds like a mass-induced psychosis, while less attuned or mentally blind species find details of the cloaked unit impossible to remember or describe, or may simply not notice the unit unless it is alone and obvious in appearance. Simply turning around or standing among a small crowd is enough to become virtually invisible. Unfortunately, this invisibility comes at a cost, as it is omni-directional, and any unit enveloped in such a shroud would be unable to mentally communicate with others, effectively cutting itself off from any hive network. This ability requires at least a moderate relay or implant to accomplish, although no drone would do so willingly and cut itself off from the Queen without a direct command to do so.
I was thinking that when a swarm of hundreds of fighters are all cloaking it would become nearly impossible to separate individuals making targeting far harder.
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>>3031516
I was skeptical about the ability of individual fighters to produce the effect, but you're right, it seems like individual Hive agents are capable of doing it.

Can we get ships with moderate relays broadcasting a psi-cloak and piloted by humans, maybe? Or ceph, if that's not a handicap or vulnerability. I'm still suspicious of the nature of the Void control over them.
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>What exactly was the mechanism that made our jammer effective against the Ceph attack?

Void gods make their slave races to dependent on the Void tech. It's fucked up witht he ship sensors that were most likely connected to the ceph shells.

I thing the Ceph concept of piloting is basicaly (Jesus take the whell) but replacing Jesus with the void gods.
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>>3031509
>>3031521
>>3031533

Ceph basically require a "shell" that links all their sub brains together to be able to carry out higher thought functions. For the vast majority of Ceph, this shell is psionically tuned to perceive and interact with the void shards.

We managed to create a replacement for Coil using a drone, but that would still mean that any Ceph clones we have require that they be connected to a drone, which would be impaired under a psionic jammer.
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>>3030700
Yes, 5849 on discord, I sometimes hang out in the QTG server.

>>3030764
>>3031206
At some point maybe I can set a day aside just for pure crunch stuff on the tail end of a thread? The wiki talk page is still up but I tend to not like the idea of sealing away the discussion on another site.

As it is though, you do have a large number of designs, many of which seem to have mixed opinions on them. Having a day to just look over drone and ship designs may help to consolidate and more accurately define the general designs you use. There are a few ships that I ran into issues or needed some guesswork to properly account for when calculating resources, so changing your current designs would be easy, I'd just alter the costs of the ships and rename them, and consider them to be retrofitted.

>>3031228
I don't see any reason you can't.

>>3031407
Yes, although most forms of interplanetary drives offer uniform acceleration, meaning the only G forces felt are during maneuvers such as rolls, yaws, pitch, ect. and such actions have a very, very high tolerance for G forces.

>>3031422
The Artillery Spore spins at Ludicrous Speed by using an off-kilter unstable skid drive. If any vessel reaches those kinds of Gs during combat, it's getting sucked into a black hole or just got rammed by a gravity drive. In general, Hive biology is more tolerant of gravitational changes, both low and high, than most other life forms. A product of the Hive's history of biological self-engineering.

Also saw the ask.fm question, and no, a carapace does not require a direct link to the Hive. Its integrated sub-thinker does communicate with the hive network, but it is in a purely subordinate support role serving the user, who is the source of the carapace overall combat capability. The sub-thinker functions more like an onboard computer by syncing up with the user's mind and assisting by mimicking the user's movements with the suit's muscles and assisting in weapon targeting, functioning in an almost identical way to the typical drop-suit's built-in V.I. 'shadow' which works as an artificial neural network built in mirror of the user's own mind so as to better function in sync with the user. Grav fighters have a similar on board computer. If you were to make a heavy fighter capable of holding a non-hive pilot, the amount of space that the pilot would have available would in effect make it feel more like 'wearing' the fighter than piloting it anyways, and the neural link be