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Decker hefts his bags over his shoulder as he dusts off his clothes and hops up from the small crater. Coco hops about in small circles around him, quickly running up the nearby hill and yipping at the noises coming from the city beyond. Most of it is a grey sprawl, an endless sea of shanty towns built upon shanty towns into makeshift towers of scrap metal and salvaged construction materials, the worn and eroded chunks of old prefab housing blocks visible in patches beneath the jerry-rigged add-ons. Further beyond the junk city, shimmering in the haze of smog and glittering in the setting sunlight, you see the massive pearly white spires of the Mentan universities, each one piercing the cloud cover as the massive arcologies stretch seemingly without end, their tops hidden beyond the veil of clouds and smog blanketing the industrial landscape bellow.

Decker lets out a short cough, and quickly places a small filter mask over his face, and calls coco over to him, struggling with the shadehound to manage to place a similar mask over its nasal flaps as the animal whines and rolls about in the dirt against his grip.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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>>2994912
>Its the next day
Oh boy
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>>2994912
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 32,997,640N
Metals: 27,873,614M
Credits: ₡6,252,206
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active Commercial trade routes:
>Leeland – Lanway HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]
Estimated per-day value: ₡2,500,000

>Construction underway

system adjustments needed
[Heavy Fleet] x15
[Fast Assault Fleet] x5

>Formed fleets and orders
Citadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]
Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]
25 Heavy Battle Fleet [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]
30 Light Fleets [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
25 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Fast Assault Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Ambush Fleet
6 Carrier Battle groups
10 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]

Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses
[Gemini]
3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)
4 Human flash clone upkeep – 120
18 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540
Specializations:
>Tech
>Engineer
>Brawler
[Hive space]
100 Human Hybrids – 3,000
Lyle Rogers – 57
Jackob Eisner – 56
Dillon Reager – 30
Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N

>Income
Metals: 2,950,500
Nutrients: 7,636,000
Net:

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390

(Nutrient stat + structures) * 1k * dev score + modifiers = Nutrient income total
(Metal stat + structures) * dev score + modifiers = Metal income total
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>>2994915
It's like exiting a paradoxical limbo dimension where things were both constantly happening and not moving forward at all.
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FOR MOTHER
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>>2994923
Espionage Activity

Gemini
Agitation – ************___
Suspicion – ******_________
N 48
M 18
Development 70
[Covert Infiltration]
>Beggars and Taidarens
Resources:
1 Sleeper Cell within local civilian infrastructure
A high ranking source of information within the governmnet
Close ties with local Taidaren clans

This planet holds an embassy, random chance to gain intelligence each day, +1 Active Operation available. This planet's population is highly irritable and aggressive to Hive influence. All failure and detection chances are increased. Increased rate of psionic resistance in the local populace. Any attempt to increase unrest will receive a bonus to success chance and increased detection rate.

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Union Parliament Building – Unique: The primary seat of Union political authority, this structure organizes the humans and various xeno entities within the Union into a semblance of order, collecting taxes and passing laws, all things the Hive has little need for, but the single-minded cannot function without.
BFI HQ – Unique: The center of Union counter intelligence, the Bureau of Foreign Intelligence is devoted to rooting out espionage across the Union, as well as infiltrating enemy or possibly hostile planets and organizations. Allows recruitment of BFI agents and deployment of espionage cell networks on other planets.
Space Elevator [Under construction] – This space elevator is nearing completion, however political corruption and recent unnatural inclement weather patterns have caused delays.
ISGM launch facility – Launch facilities for ISGM's, or Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. In effect high-yield MIRV warheads fitted to corvette sized automated vessels capable of short range warp travel and the deployment of many dozens of independently targeting nuclear, kinetic, or gravitic warheads. Nicknamed 'planet busters' the very existence of these warheads are typically reserved as a deterrent, and are too large to be effectively used against anything other than planets or space cities.
Union Customs Authority – Unique: Large scale government oversight of import and export activity creates a demand for a greater level of traffic be diverted through the capital system when dealing with interstellar multi-national corporations so as to allow said corporate travel more rapid movement through local bureaucracy. +2 Commercial Trade Routes
[Detected Economic Activity]
Commercial Trade routes:
Gemini – Librae
Librae – Gemini
Lanway – Gemini
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>>2994923
>>Formed fleets and orders
Do we... do we still have fleets?
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>>2994929
Gemini Beta
[Maintain Concealment]
This is a sparsely populated military world. Low population increases the abilities to conceal a hive, while its large military presence increases the failure rate of operations. This world is under military lock down, dramatically increasing failure rates of attempted actions and operations.

[Hydra]
Path
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet is currently under military lock down, dramatically increasing failure and detection chances. The local population is anxious and afraid of the future due to recent events, increasing the population's psionic vulnerability to influence.

Talgo
[Maintain Concealment]
Elite Hive Agent Anderson: Spin Doctor – Allows minor passive influence of local politics, increasing or decreasing Agitation or Suspicion by one point per day. Requires at least Covert Infiltration.
This planet is undergoing an infestation from non-native insectoid life forms. Discovery chance is decreased as locals dismiss your flies as part of the infestation, but failure rate is increased as local anti-infestation measures inadvertently kill your drones periodically.

Coral
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet's native biosphere is silicon based, limiting the capacity for your drones to disguise themselves as native life forms and forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements, increasing detection chances.
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>>2994912
Aww yiss, time for my favorite spacebugs quest.
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>>2994912
Gas the squids
Stab the monkeys
Nuke the whales
Trust nothing!
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>>2994923
Um... aren’t most of the “awaiting orders” fleets still at the artificial planet in Scav space?

Not that I’m complaining, I thought leaving the majority of our military in an area tainted by void fuckery was a bad idea anyway.
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>>2994936
[Eridanus]
Huron
Agitation – **_____________
Suspicion – *______________
N 78
M 25
Development 65
[Passive Observation]

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Huronese Fishers' Guild – Exclusivity laws and carefully organized mass-branding gives locally caught specimens artificially high value, translating 25% of local N income to Credits.
Island Resort – Strings of small island chains domed against the frequent storms offer mock-traditional entertainment and themed luxury events to the ultra-wealthy, increasing Credit income
Wet Navy – Floating and submersible platforms make up the majority of the planet's anti-orbital battery locations, allowing for the rapid relocation of PDF forces on short notice. Improves firing arcs of anti-orbital weapons.

[Sirius]
Mentan
[Maintain Concealment]
Elite Hive Agent Decker: Tech – Is able to gather additional information, reduces detection risk of local espionage.
This planet is currently in a state of mild unrest due to regular protests and small riots regarding upcoming local elections. Such activity is considered normal for the planet's relatively unstable political landscape.

Arnim
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

>>2994932
Yes... Though you've sent most of them into Scavenger space. I may not have updated all of their orders correctly. I had to delay the thread due to one of my tooth fillings spontaneously failing and causing an abscess, resulting in debilitating pain through most of the weekend. Ended up having to delay the thread and spend most of the week in bed high on prescription pain killers because of it while waiting for a root canal appointment on monday. As a result, most of this thread's prep work was done over a sleepless 32 hour period, with a short nap just a few hours ago. Please let me know if you see anything wrong and I'll fix it.
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Weekly reminder

>Raid OQ
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Board and take over a scav world ship.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>2994945
Void fuckery isn't that contagious. Only when the void shards are involved do we really have to worry.
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>>2994947
Hive space: All worlds within Hive territory are able to perform espionage without resource cost, and all actions and operations have a dramatically increased chance of success and decreased odds of detection, but discovery brings with it a much greater risk of major public backlash and public discontent when performing events not linked to counter-intelligence.

Domain of the Red Queen

[G-426]
Leeland (capital)
N 60+40
M 45
Development 50

Income:
4.861MN
112.5KM

Defensive structures
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN)
Anti-orbital battery grid – Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)
Military structures
Hangar facilities – Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)
Psionic Shroud – Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)
Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – (2000) (100KN)
[Empty docks: 8000/8000]
Capillary Tower – (25,000N)
Smart Mines active – Calculates development stat twice for metal income
Algae Farm – +25N
Film harvester dock – +15N

Asteroid mining base [Depleted]
This hollow asteroid provides an excellent location to construct a Space City at low cost.

Asteroid belt
M 57
A sizable belt of metal rich asteroids containing a large, hollowed out Hive mining base that would serve as a decent foundation for a Space City hub.

Gas giant
A hydrogen gas giant that contains a bounty of usable gas fuel, such as tritium and hydrogen for FTL navigation and fusion power generation, making it a common pit stop for passing hive fleet patrols. Research on methods of further exploitation of its atmosphere is underway.

>P1
N 0
M 75
Development 0

>P2
N N/A
M N/A

>P3
N 24
M 7
Development 0
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>>2994947
>one of my tooth fillings spontaneously failing and causing an abscess
[curse continues]
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FEAR THE VOID
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[Dagmar]
Kaltara
N 0
M 100
Development 20
Pop 0

Income:

This planet's small corporate population has evacuated with the Union forces, taking what supplies they can and leaving the rest.

Economic Structures
Magma wells – Mostly automated magma pumps extract liquid metal resources from subterranean volcanic rivers for further filtration and refining, Allows extraction of resources relative to Development without a civilian population center. [offline]
PDF Field repair depot – The remains of a military facility devoted to the assembly of field repair kits and equipment for local military forces. [ruined and offline]

Gibson
Nitrogen ice giant with a a number of resource rich rings

>Gibson Station
A mostly automated mining facility, the station has been evacuated and stripped of most of its equipment. What remains is a large, yet empty husk of a refining facility, little more than the rough equivalent to an empty parking garage stripped of all valuables, but the husk itself would make it more easy to construct a larger and more dedicated mining facility in the form of a Space City in the otherwise dangerous construction site of the planet's rings.
>>2994945
You did, but as I said I may have some mistakes listed due to most of the prep being done in either a sleepless marathon or in a drug and pain addled state of confusion.

>>2994953
I know, right? It happened literally the morning after the last thread finished.
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>>2994951
>>P1
>N 0
>M 75
>Development 0

>>P3
>N 24
>M 7
>Development 0

Wow, that's an impressive quantity of resources for planets that we've been more or less writing off so far. Maybe we should start developing them before too long.
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>>2994936
>forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements

Wait, that shouldn't even be necessary once any hive infrastructure is grown whatsoever. Solid State Teleportation alone allows bringing in raw Nutrients and Metals, and then there's complex matter reconstruction.

Suppose we should raise this to Passive Observation so we can begin Invasive Research on the silicates, and start escalating on Mentan and Arnim too.
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>>2994951
>>P2
>N N/A
>M N/A
Nothing suspicious here.
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>>2994956
[Koenig]
Accretion disc
N 15
M 30
A large field of asteroids, gas, and small dust particulate combined into a thick soup of exploitable resources.

Tadeki Station [Destroyed]
This mining station once used by Union military forces for field repairs of passing ships has been rapidly salvaged and made to self destruct using a low yield nuclear warhead, likely to avoid allowing the salvaging of any potential military secrets regarding Union starship construction. All that remains is a cloud of metal particulate to be added to the rest of the accretion disc.

Calpamos
N N/A
M N/A
Development [Unavailable]
This hydrogen gas giant provides a bounty of water and hydrogen to fuel passing starships, and was the last stop of most evacuating fleets as they left the Expanse during sovereignty transfer. The planet has three moons, each of them habitable to some degree.

>Calpamos Station
A station tethered to the local gas giant linking to gas mining facility within the upper atmosphere. Most of the facility has been abandoned, scrapped, or otherwise rendered inoperable due to the rapid evacuation of local Union and corporate entities. Research into gas giant superstructures are required perform proper repairs and bring the facility back online, allowing the colonization of Calpamos itself.
>Hub
[Orbital Anchor]
>Wards
[Customs]
[Trade Port X2]
[Frontier Outpost] Increases Pop migration from overpopulated human worlds to worlds in local system Union only
[Barracks]
[Union Post Center] Reduces costs of shipping infrastructure in local system Union only
>Utility Wards
[Merchant Docks]
[Corporate Field office] Van Den Broek Superluminal Closed
[Rest Stop]
[Slipway]

Acheron
N 34
M 23
Development 5
Agitation ******_________
Suspicion ***********____
A small number of frontier settlers have begun initial terraforming efforts. Few have evacuated, and many seem to be forming village militias to establish an ad hoc planetary defense force. Whether this militia is intent on resisting hive rule, or accepting hive sovereignty is yet to be determined, but they have made no overtly hostile gestures yet beyond the acts of entrenching their homesteads and looting the local armory.
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>>2994963
Deckard's Claim
N 65
M 22
Development 15
Agitation ************___
Suspicion ********_______
The planet consists of a number of small farming camps built around a paramilitary base commanded by ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave. While many did, public discontent is running high, and while many seem to believe the recent events to be Lord Deckard's rather over-zealous way of retaining power under a new government, some believe there to be some foul play at work on the Hive's part. Either way, the population of just over a hundred thousand is growing increasingly at one anther's throats over the matter.

Djin
N 15
M 11
Development 0
The planet is under a mandatory general evacuation order from the Union, and Union marines have forcibly removed the remaining scientists and miners on the surface under the claim of a possible disease outbreak, transferring the small population of several thousand to a number of military hospitals at undisclosed locations for observation under short term quarantine.

[New Port]
Callahan
A hydrogen gas giant with multiple layers of rings and small dwarf planetoids of irregular shape containing sources of metal, water, and frozen gases, and was previously a major refueling station for corporate and merchant fleets.

Callahan Station
A sizable industrial facility devoted to organizing mining drones and facilitating repair and refuel of passing commercial ships. The station is mostly offline, and only a small skeleton crew remain to keep it in orbit as the owning corporation attempts to determine the state of the Hive economy.

Asteroid belt
N 0
M 22
A moderately rich belt containing precious and heavy metals

Bedrock
Agitation *********______
Suspicion ******_________
>Hub
[Promenade]
1 Megacorp HQ [Rutherford Industries Extraction and Assembly Inc.] Closed
>Wards
[Sprawl X2]
[Customs]
[Trade Port]
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Red Light District] +20 Dev score applied only to credit income, decreases detection risk of espionage activity, cannot be built, has a chance to grow in empty Ward slots when Pop Cap is above 100

This colony is suffering from widespread panic, dramatically lowering detection chances of espionage agents, but making the results of operations far more unpredictable, and making gathered data unreliable.

Darwin
N 88
M 25
Development 0
A military base previously existed on the surface where artifacts were excavated under close guard. The base has been entirely dismantled some time ago, and the planet entirely evacuated, leaving only the empty clearing where the Union had previously cut and burned away the local flora.
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[Juric]
Brandenburg

Billiard
N 21
M 0
Development 0
This planet is currently settled by nomadic gas harvesters

>Norfolk
N 12
M 28
Development 0
A corporate 'shake and bake' colony devoted to terraforming, the corporate sponsors have pulled out, and evacuated the small population of engineers on the surface, leaving the planet a barren rock as they found it.

[Telarum]
Krasnikov Interstellar corporate outpost

[Sentinel]
Sentinel Post

[Tannhauser/Kerik Ashka]
Aral
N 48
M 65
Development 0
This planet's population consists only of Valen construction workers applying the finishing touches to the Tannhauser hypergate. No permanent settlement exists, and no effort to extract local resources had been made.

>Tannhauser Gate [Valen Controlled]
>Ward
[Hypergate] Allows hypergate travel
>Wards
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Traffic Control] Improves traffic capacity of Hypergate
[Merchant Guild office] Valen only
[Trade Port X2]

Debris field
M 89
The remains of the Skyl homeworld, the field holds a wealth of minerals, ice, and metals.
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>>2994966
[The Garden/Wayward Hope]
Barren rock
N 0
M 3
Development 0

Asteroid belt
A small belt of asteroids in a semi stable orbit arround the star holding some amount of precious metals.

Raligha
N 90+50
M 10
Development 25

Income:
3.5MN + 1.75MN
250M

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)
>Anti-orbital battery grid (8KN)
Economic structures
>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N
>Greystalk farms: Bio-engineered native super-crop offers easily maintained farmland tended by both drone workers and native ralighans +30N
>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, +50% N income
>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day, allows recruitment of Ralighan Elite Agents.

Ice Giant
A super-massive ice giant mostly composed of inert gasses with few usable resources.

[M-323]
>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)
[Empty docks: 0/4]
>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)

[A-295]
Frozen Ice planet
N 20
M 1
Development 0
A small frozen planet covered in various forms of ice

Binary volcanic planets
V1
N 0
M 100
V2
N 0
M 100

Barren radioactive planet
N 0
M 6
Development 0
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>>2994963
> a paramilitary base commanded by ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave
Well this one looks like a piece of work.

>Darwin
>A military base previously existed on the surface where artifacts were excavated under close guard.
I don't think we've sent an expedition to sample the local flora and fauna here yet.
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>>2994972
[Desmond]
Accretion disc
N 23
M 35
A thin ring of stellar debris orbiting the two native stars containing a microbial substance able to feed on local metals

Pegasean Gas Giant
Advertised as “the Inferno” by the travel agency organizing the local band performace, this giant is unusable for resources due to the simple fact that it is endlessly engulfed in flames, a fact that makes it useless for mining, but quite attractive to tourists visiting the orbiting Space City

>Builder's Gift
>Hub
[Presidium]
>Wards
[Zoological Reserve]
[Zoological Resort]
[Inferno Resort]
[Thermal Regulator]
[2 Trade ports]

>P1
N 0
M 0
Development 0
A small frozen ball of ice and rock

>P2
N 15
M 26
A primordial world with a thin atmosphere and high levels of oxygen, as well as geological activity and a surface covered in shallow pools of a strange animated liquid carbon substance.

Asteroid belt
N 16
M 5
A sparse field containing a small amount of metals, but mostly ice and rocks.

Ice planet
N 7
M 2
Development 0
A small planet on the edge of the system containing mostly ice and negligible sources of metals.

[Wonder]
Debris field
A thick and widespread layer of micro-particles and debris spread across the system, granting a penalty to the ability of ships within to dodge incoming attacks.

Ancient Dockyard
The site of the Builder's ancient laboratories and experimental shipyards, now little more than a vast tombstone marking her passing. The massive structure could be easily and cheaply retrofitted with your own advanced construction techniques to create a space city.

[Farcast]
Derelict Sensor array

Glassed Hive world
N 0
M 100
D 10

Income:
0N
100KM

>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal income

Deep space waystation
>100 docking pylons (10KN)
[Empty docks 400/400]

>>2994957
Yea I realized that just dumping info into the thread of only places you've colonized makes both me and most of you just about totally forget about everything else in your space, and frustrates the hell out of the few that remember them, so I just statted all of them up with semi-randomly rolled stat blocks.
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>>2994957
I'm sure it's still a bit of a controversial topic but I'd still like to core mine at least one 0 N planetoid.
>>2994958
I'll second increasing espionage level.
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[Refuge] – The Scarred Queen
An unusually dense and reflective ort cloud makes it unusually difficult to accurately blink deep into the system and disrupting sensors attempting to penetrate the cloud.

Frozen metallic world
N 5
M76
Development 0

Rocky temperate world
N 52
M 35
Development 0

Binary moons
>P1
N 5
M 20

>P2
N 12
M 24

>Forest Moon
N 78
M 13
Development 15

Defensive Structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors placed across the planet's surface capable of targeting orbiting enemy vessels in conjunction with additional anti-orbital weapon systems.
Anti-orbital battery grid – Under construction
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Under construction
Temple of the Unseen – A grand temple devoted to the Matron Queens, the gods of the Phantoms, tended to at all times by the planet's most revered elder matrons and patriarchs, they focus their abilities in tandem through the temple as an amplifier, projecting a blurred sense of incomprehension over the planet's surface, preventing enemy forces from accurately bombarding surface targets during combat. Requires a native Phantom population, and allows recruitment of Phantom Elite Agents.

Military Structures
Hangar Facilities – 20% replenished
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>>2994982
New Construction Options

Defensive structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors built within the most critical components of the local planet's surface infrastructure surrounded by heavily fortified flak and anti-air weapon systems devoted to intercepting incoming landing craft or low-orbit attackers. The spores themselves use a modified skip drive to propel a tachyonic warhead into or near the enemy target before exploding in a burst of hard radiation that damages nearby targets and scrambles sensors and psionic senses, in effect serving as a kind of orbital flak weapon. 6,000N 12,000M
Anti-orbital battery grid – A network of anti-orbital batteries scattered across the planet, each situated in a fortified bunker complex fitted with stationary gun positions and intense hive creep fortifications. Each battery is a capital ship class particle beam capable of attacking enemy vessels in orbit of the planet, each situated in relation to the others to provide overlapping fire over any location above the planet. 8,000N 48,000M
Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)
Shield dome network – An overlapping network of bunkers crisscross the landscape of a planet offering emergency shelters for any local inhabitants to survive orbital attack, as well as shield emitters placed in overlapping layers set around important infrastructure and planetary installations. Like all shields, heat quickly becomes a problem as it sustains fire, as such a mixture of ventilation towers and subterranean heat sinks, turning a small facility into a massive, sprawling network of infrastructure. If the planet suffers orbital bombardment, this planetary installation will absorb all damage first. 8,600N 50,000M
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>>2994977
Haven't we been terraforming Farcast for a while?
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>>2994977
>frustrates the hell out of the few that remember them
Thank you for thinking of my autism.
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Military Structures
Military Spaceport – Extensive fortified maintenance bays and hangars are built across the surface of the planet, as well as infrastructure and manufacturing centers to support the production and maintenance of a planetary strike craft squadron. Swarmer fighters are produced at a constant rate with suitable range to intercept orbiting vessels or approaching dropships, while more advanced fighters and gunships of the most suitable design are produced and maintained for system wide defense and patrol Aerodynamic drones are also maintained in scattered hangar facilities to provide air support in the event of ground attack, and intercept enemy dropships. All craft are held in hibernation to reduce costs, allowing an entire planet's worth of strike craft to be maintained for a relative low cost. 500N 1000M
Psionic Shroud – A single building built around the shattered remains of a Void Shard, the shroud amplifies the unnatural mental silence of the broken crystal within to mask an entire planet from potential detection, preventing outside forces from easily detecting the thoughts of a hive. (2,000N 5,000M)
Psionic Sensor Tower – A massive spire composed of highly psionically sensitive instruments and material focused on the detection and measurement of wide range quantum states in a vacuum directed at the space around the planet. Grants a chance to predict the arrival of ships approaching the system via certain FTL methods. The effectiveness depends on the method used and the size of the incoming fleet, granting a base chance to detect incoming Blink drive ships at 75%, Space-fold and Rip drive at 50%, Warp drive at 25%, and Flicker drive at 10%. Gatecasting ships from Hypergates and Slip drive is not effected. (20KN, 30KM)

Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. By default is used to produce hive vessels, but can be made to offer repair services to passing ships in return for credits or other acceptable transaction fees. 100N 300M
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>>2994987
Eleven days.
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>>2994985
>Shield dome network
>Spore Caster Network
Who's up for building these on Leeland right now?
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>ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave.

Yeah we need to go an see to that.But good to see that at least one of our new colonies is adapting to the new regime.
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>>2994993
So 3 more days till we see how good our terraforming is.
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>>2994991
Weather Spire network – A networked collection of spires spread across a planet capable of studying and altering a planet’s climate and atmosphere. Construction includes the building of all spires needed to function. While the spires can manipulate a planet's climate towards any desired effect, by default the spires will attempt to optimize a planet's fertility and habitability for hive life and its primary crop strains, increasing a planet's base N score by 5. Alternatively, the spires can work to create intense storms and thicken the local ionosphere, reducing N score by 5 and imparting a penalty to enemy craft within the atmosphere and blocking enemy communications to and from orbit, as well as disrupting sensors of orbiting ships. This option is not available for planets with naturally turbulent and disruptive climates. (8,000N 20,000M)
Orbital solar array – A station placed in orbit of the local star equipped with a membrane of photosynthetic cells several kilometers in diameter capable of producing a steady stream of nutrient income. Due to practical constraints of logistics, a star system can support up to five solar arrays. Must be built around a main sequence star. Provides 1500N per day total (5,000N 5,000M)
Harvester Dock – A large pier built along the shore overlooking the spore-producing ocean film that serves as an unloading area for Harvester drones, and contains pipelines to pump collected raw nutrients to the hive’s awaiting processing facilities, includes a single Harvester which is covered by the cost and upkeep of the dock. Provides 500N per day total (38N 50M)
Orbital electroponic station – An orbital instillation built near a large source of hydrogen used to fuel a large fusion core, which in turn provides electrical power to a contained algae farm facility. Must be built in orbit of a gas giant. Provides +2000N per day and doubles as a gas mining facility, refueling the tritium stores of any ships in the system. The station itself can serve as the hub of a space city with additional investment. (3000M)
Algae Farm – A carved out space used to utilize Leeland’s natural electrical field to cultivate food. +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain.

>>2994987
Yes, there are several long term projects I know I was unable to show properly in the update, either due to forgetting or not having the time for, but I'm working on making a kind of rolling wave of improvements to things as we go, so I do have a few dozen tabs of just highlighted past posts of things that need addressing and a word document filled with a to-do list still which I am whittling down bit by bit.
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>>2994947
Oh shit that sounds terrible QD. Fuck man, I hope you feel better soon!
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>>2994994
sure. I'd second building them on all colonies really.
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>>2994994
Would rather focus in building the gas statiin tech so we can have some use for the gas giants around our territory.

Also the nuke the Union used in blowi g up to deny us acess to Union tech. Lol the idiots don't even know we already have the plans for their ships.
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Hydroponic platform – A floating greenhouse platform used to grow farmland through hydroponics that can only be built on or near water with open access to plentiful sunlight. Each greenhouse platform supports roughly one hectare and requires a single worker to tend the crop and maintain the platform. Multiple platforms can be connected together to create fields of floating farmland. +200N per day, 1 worker to maintain.
Filter towers – A large underwater pylon built to extract raw nutrients from the microbial life of the surrounding ecosystem. Can only be used on planets with bountiful biospheres and deep oceans capable of supporting large amounts of microbes. Provides between 100 and 500 N per day, depending on the local environment. (500M)
Capillary Tower – This massive organic space elevator offers a number of logistical and economic advantages, despite its drastic up front cost and fragile nature. Shuttles or space craft are no longer needed to move resources from the surface to orbital structures, freeing shuttles for more important tasks. The counterweight station serves as a center for construction, with 4 docking pylons included on the structure to repair and build ships, while gaining a bonus to capital ship construction time due to the speedy nature with which resources arrive from the surface. The Capillary Tower can also spread hive creep and extract resources at an increased rate, spreading roots deep into the crust to bring up resources directly into orbit, allowing you to consume a planet much more quickly than normal. A Hive ship can construct a Capillary Tower if given the time and resources to do so, deploying one after 3 full days, after which it becomes the counterweight station, and must remain stationary until it detaches and destroys the tower to move. A Hive ship deployed in this way does not have access to its spinal weapons, but can use other features as normal. A planet can hold a max of 4 Capillary Towers along its equator. For each one, planetary mining or over harvest activities are doubled and its Development score increases by 10, this bonus can surpass a planet's maximum development, and will not affect its biosphere. Upkeep is reduced by half on planets with an atmosphere. (50,000N 500,000M)

>Begin new construction (write in)
>Adjust espionage hives (write in)
>Other
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We really need to perform some "maintenance" on our Hive owned human worlds before all out anarchy breaks out across several of them.
We need to reinforce our claim, maybe couple Hive military presence with city building programs and quality of life improvements.
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>>2994998
>>2994993
>>2994987
We should terraform the place the union corporation abandoned just to be smug and show on their faces what the hive can do.
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>>2995006
Hey QD what's up with P2?
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Hmm.
Leeland is just missing a military spaceport and Weather Spire network (and 3 more capillary towers, but that's expenssive).
Religha could use a Psionic Shroud and Sensor.

What do you guys think?
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>>2994996
We need to go and see to a lot of things and finite time to do them, this guy seems like he could be an hours-long tangent so he can get in line.

First we could focus on setting in motion the research on silicate biology, since it's probably relevant to those psychic moons. A fleet getting living samples from Nowhere should have results by now.

And then there's the Project Aegis suit.

And we could start implementing Mother Knows Best on all hive-controlled locales immediately for the much needed PR reversal.
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>>2995006
>Begin new construction (write in)
Spore Caster Network on all already established colonies
Shield Dome Network on all already established colonies
>Adjust espionage hives (write in)
Increase to passive observation on all Union worlds
Set Mother Knows Best active on owned human populated planets
>Other
Visibly colonize all worlds not currently populated by humans.
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>>2995014
The resources are probably just listed as N/A because actually landing ships there is next to impossible. The tidal forces of gravity there are so intense they're continually tearing up the surface of the planet, if memory serves.

There really isn't anything shady about the planet from the way it was described.
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>>2995024
How much is that gonna cost?
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>>2995006
>>Adjust espionage hives (write in)
Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration
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>>2995006
>Begin new construction (write in)
>Begin Developing any world with a worthwhile N score
>Give the Valen a heads up and assure them we won't fuck with their hypergate.
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>>2995002
Thanks, I already feel better actually, just a bit tender from all the tooth excavation, but it's so much better than it was before.

Even still though, there are a lot of adjustments I've been wanting to make to better streamline the system, and I'm working as best I can to get those adjustments rolled out nice and proper, but things will fall through the cracks, so please just yell at me about them when you notice. Anytime that happens I just open a tab with that post highlighted and use it as a bookmark to get to after the thread is over. In general though, I plan on having things pick up the pace a bit and plan to avoid any more .2 threads that are not bonus mid-week threads if I can help it, unless something major and time sensitive is happening of course.

>>2995014
A long, long time ago you all voted to send a pod to the surface with some drones to explore it, and then I forgot all about it like an idiot between all the hiatuses and the heart exploding and the computer troubles and what not. I figured I'd hold off on the stats until after we properly explore it in person, since it is long overdue.
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>>2995026
>nothing shady about strange crystal growths on a planet
>when the last strange rock formation was a defense system and all silicon life looks rocklike
Sure.
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>>2995024
I second the colonisation of everything we can. Also we should make a public address or something to calm the people. Possibly organise a ceremony for the change in administration?
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>>2995006
>>Begin new construction (write in)
Spore Caster Network 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Cost 14,600N 62,000M

Just to start
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>>2995006
>Begin new construction (write in)
>Shield dome network (Leeland)
>Colonize P3 and Start building
Weather Spire network

>Other: Send a small fleet to protect the space around our biggest population centers. (Deckdards [although lyle and gang should be droppi g the remaning Union spies here] Acheron and Bedrock
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>>2995006
>>Begin new construction (write in)
Bedrock:
Replace the Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.

Calpamos Station:
Replace Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.
Replace [Rest Stop] and [Slipway] with two more [Merchant Docks].
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>>2994963
I bet Theseus has the tech needed to repair Calampos station. Anyone else thi k it might be worth sharing it with him discreetly if we don't mind sharing resources?

If we establish this place as a trade route he could use it to spread instances to traveling merchants
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>>2995017
At least Lyle and gang are going there to drop the spies we rescued from the Valen. Maybe he can do some free service to the new Lord Deckard.
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>>2995024
>on all Union worlds
Not good. There's one exception to this being a good idea.

We gotta do Maintain Concealment on Path until the military lockdown is over.
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>>2995043
Maybe we could just ask them to meet with us and to talk this out and get to know how we can make things work between us.
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>>2995050
>not replacing the red light district
what
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>>2995024
Maybe sending Mother Knows Best to Bedrock would be a good idea?
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>>2995030
I think like 44k nutrients and 186k metal?
>>2995053
Fair. I forgot to account for Path.
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>>2995036
>Give the Valen a heads up and assure them we won't fuck with their hypergate.
Support not being dicks to the Valen.

Other than that >>2995024 sounds pretty good. Let’s colonize what we can.
Also supporting any specific building options that grow opportunities and don’t fuck with the Union/Valen too much. The hive can play nice.
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>>2995006
Proposals

>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration
>Keep as is
>Other (write in)

>>Begin new construction
Leeland 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Spore Caster Network

You also have a number of unexploited worlds, many of them are barren or otherwise lack a standard biosphere, but many at least would make for a suitable source of large amounts of water ice, and thus a decent enough source of nutrients.

>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in) [system and planet to avoid confusion]
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>>2995053
Good call about Path. We need to hide out on Path until the lockdown is lifted. They’ll find the OQ’s shit soon enough and call us in to help anyway.
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>>2995055
There are still humans inside. And Humans care more about their sex then their tech.
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>>2995059
>>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration

Arnim is cashmoney, we want to do Currency and Capital on there one day so we can connect all the other espionage hives through free smuggling.
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>>2995059
>>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration


>>Begin new construction
Leeland 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Spore Caster Network


>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)
G-462 (Home system) P1, P3, and an expedition to P2 just to sort out what it's like down there.
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>>2995050
Speaking of Bedrock, since the system it's in is right at the border of the Union i think we should convert the station into a mix of star hive and ship customs for travel into our space, what do other anons think?
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>>2995059
>>2995024
Modified with maintain concealment on Path
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>>2995068
As long as it doesn’t piss off the locals or helps us improve their quality of life I’m good with that.
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>>2995061
We still have 10 of our hive agents on Path they can easily sneak a egglayer and buy something using From Other money to build a small coorporate building/warehouse.
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>>2995074
Star hive fucks their quality of life.
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>>2995059
>>Other (write in)
Oh yeah.

Mother Knows Best on:

Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

and can we add Tachyonic Drill asabove to those two spacecities?
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>>2995074
Seeing as a number of people evacuated the station i think we can change some of the wards, maybe even the hub itself?
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>>2995059
>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration

>Begin new construction
Leeland 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Spore Caster Network

Seems to indeed be the general consensus
>Y/N

>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)
[G-462]
P1
P3

>Add others (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>2995068
We were going to turn Bedrock into a place to research stuff with Union Scientist. Maybe sending one of our forces there to help pacify stuff would help.
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>>2995078
Oh.
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>>2995082
>Y to all
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>>2995082
>Add others (write in)
Leeland P1, P3. Kaltara, Djin, Darwin, Brandenburg, Norfolk, Tannhauser, Desmond P1, P2.
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>>2995082
Oh does anyone else think we should turn the emptied asteroid un Leelands system into a Star Hive to build up our defenses there?
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>>2995082
>>Y

>Add others (write in)
[A-295]
Frozen Ice planet
Binary volcanic planets V1, v2
Barren radioactive planet

[Desmond]
P2
Asteroid belt
Ice planet

It occurred to me that we may as well use this time to start scraping resources from planets that have long been under our control but not exploited.
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>>2995090
Not Djin genius. That's where Cluster is.
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>>2995094
Who better than us to make sure they stay slep?
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>>2995082
>Y

>>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)

Kaltara and the Binary volcanic planets, V1 and V2, are all at Metals 100. Colonize and begin mantle mining on those.

Construct a capillary tower on Kaltara.

Also, start at least a small hive on Darwin.
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>>2995083
>keeping a research station right next door to the union.
Uhh... what exactly is the plan for that? Do we just have the humans research unique but nonvital stuff and anytime they do get a great idea we move the team deeper into our space? Cause i was thinking of turning the ancient builder dockyard into a fleet builder and research station like it was in the past.
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>>2995096
Ideally someone who wouldn't wake them up with the sound of heavy construction coming from every direction. Seriously, we'd be roommates from hell for them.
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>>2995082
>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)

Oh we haven't landed an overt hive on Kerik Ashka. Do that.
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>>2995082
>Y

Also okay with colonizing other planets as long as we definitely DO NOT touch Djin. That planet belongs to the Cluster.
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>>2995097
Supporting building Hive on Darwin. That's where the Union got the psionic skyl artifacts they shoved into Ryan's eye
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>>2995098
Mostly the plan is to use that so we can snatch the scientist that are deep connected with Union governament and put then in some small low Hive tech.

Then while they are in the station we seduce then and have then defect to the Hive, be it with the promise of researching more hibe exclusive tech or something else.
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>>2995082
Also,
>Tell Valen we won’t fuck with their wormhole station and invite them to begin trading.
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>>2995110
We should set up trade routes now.
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>>2995082

>Y
>Exploit additional planets
[Desmond]
P1
P2
Ice planet

[Dagmar]
Kaltara

>Aprove
>Not now
>Adjust
>Add others (write in)

>Adjust domestic policies
Mother Knows Best on:
Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

>Approve
>Not now
>Other (write in)
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>>2995108
Good call. I think I remember (it was a long time ago, don’t quote me on this) that we suspected Darwin was a hive planet.
Supporting colonizing Darwin.
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>>2995098
It's solely useful as a skunkworks project.

They come to us to accelerate their research into fields we've never looked at before. Their research gets done without budget limitations, and we get the research unlocked for ourselves in exchange.

Now we're the NPC who offers to help for a price.
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>>2995120
>Add others (write in)
Darwin

>Adjust domestic policies
>Approve
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>>2995120
>Exploit additional planets
[Desmond]
P1
P2
Ice planet

[Dagmar]
Kaltara

>Aprove


>Adjust domestic policies
Mother Knows Best on:
Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

>Approve
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>>2995120
>>Adjust
QD, you forgot V1 and V2 at A-295. Two of the most metals-rich targets.

Also colonize Darwin.

Approve everything else. Colonizing and policies.

Can we build a capillary tower on the Metals-rich world of Kaltara or do we have to wait until it's colonized more?
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>>2995120
>Approve
+add Darwin

The ice planet is NOT the Cluster planet, right?
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>>2995139
seconded
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>>2995083
On that note i wonder what the Commonwealth will do. They will send scientists i guess but we should make certain they don't butt heads with each other. Should we also ask the Valen if they want to participate? We should also ask if Theseus participating in Bedrock research will be allowed. To help people learn about the Unity in a peaceful way.
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>>2995140
Djin is the Cluster planet.
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Also to the anon that spoked about us upseating the local population.

We have anti-setients in the expanse and eco-terrorist. They will be upset anyway.
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>>2995120
>Add others
Darwin

[A-295]
V1
V2

>Y/N

>Approved domestic policy adjustments

>>2995139
You will need to wait for your hive to be established there. You could set it up to start building immediately, but I think we've hung up on these votes long enough, I think that can wait for the next day.
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>>2995120
>>Aprove

>Adjust domestic policies
Mother Knows Best on:
Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

>Not now

I'd rather make actual diplomatic contact with the people we've just inherited from the Union and their factions before brute forcing our policies on them. I don't think the humans watching from the Union would not approve of this.
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>>2995144
We should make it exclusive to the Union for now just to make it feel like we aren't helping the enemy.
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>>2995144
No need to include the Valen. Research is just research we can Trade techs with the Valen then push that for our thinkers to introduce to the humans. I would rather to keep it a Union/Hive thing for now.
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>>2994966
>[Telarum]
>Krasnikov Interstellar corporate outpost
>[Sentinel]
>Sentinel Post

These are full blown space cities, aren't they? I guess they'll be statted out later? The first one has to be, to have been using a Star Drill Ward.
>>2995153
>>Y

Wish we could start on the Drill though so it's ready later to be a real trade hub at Koenig:

Calpamos Station:
Replace Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.
Replace [Rest Stop] and [Slipway] with two more [Merchant Docks].
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>>2995160
No to replacing the Barracks. It helps keep order.
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>>2995155
Anon the other planets don't have human population. Read QD again Only Bedrock, Deckcards and Acheron has a human population.
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>>2995166
Disorder is extremely unlikely to be a problem when we have Customs already there to keep order and and screen out problems before they happen.
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>Y

Finished Research
>Artillery Spore
While the use of anti-orbital weapons has traditionally been limited in the Hive to atmospheric saturation fire by surface gun platforms, with any actual orbital threats handled by picket fleets, there are a few notable exceptions. One such exception, which was considered a mainstay of the defenses of throne worlds in its time, was the Artillery Spore. Launched from a large Spore Caster set along the surface, each spore was a large, roughly Space Pod sized device composed of a diamond lattice shell ending in a tapered point etched with sensor ports along the diameter, and a body consisting of a specialized sub-brain and a miniaturized and heavily altered Skid Drive. The Skid Drive itself is modified for enhanced acceleration and performance within a gravity well at the cost of drastically reducing overall maneuverability and stability. It is so unstable, in fact, that the acceleration is not entirely uniform and suffers from extreme inertia. The resulting G-forces are terminal for the spore itself, and in fact any life form known to exist, with the spore possessing no actual life support functions, and enough oxygenated blood within its sub-brain to reach the target, and nothing more. The result is a Skid Drive that effectively pushes off against the planet not unlike a standard rocket, but with far, far more potency. Once in the air, the pod will guide itself to its target until it reaches a determined distance, at which point the drive wings will deliberately offset by seventeen degrees, resulting in a sudden and ever increasing spin that will eviscerate the internal organs of the spore in less than two seconds. From this moment, the spore is an unguided rocket, its drive functioning on a dead-man's switch as its spin causes its tapered shell to drill into the target's hull, at which point one of two things will happen: the drive wings will be pulled off by the impact with the target, or will be torn off by the increasing centripetal force. In either case, the drive itself is triggered as a makeshift warhead, and it immediately performs what could only be described as a kind of impotent blink, wherein the drive expels a massive radiation burst, hopefully inside the target's hull and destroying it from within, or in the event of a miss, blinding it and nearby vessels with a sudden burst of both tachyons and multi-spectrum radiation capable of damaging or destroying smaller craft akin to a kind of flak.

>>2995160
The first is a corporate mining station, it is a space city, but it is privately owned and thus, while taxable and under your legal jurisdiction, you have no direct control over it. The second is a mostly-scrapped Union star fort, little is left apart from the metal armor and a few bare corridors, with most of the valuables and all even tangentially confidential content removed or destroyed. It's not currently suitable to sustain life but could be repaired into a Star Hive for free
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>>2995160
>Calpamos Station:
>Replace Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.
>Replace [Rest Stop] and [Slipway] with two more [Merchant Docks].
I'm rather leery of massively restructuring human designed habitats this early. Keep in mind this still less than a week after we publicly declared the expanse as Hive territory. This a crawl for us, but for humanity events are unfolding at light speed. How would it look to them if we showed up without any warning or notice to Bedrock and immediately demolished a 1/6 of the city for our star drives?

I think we should at least make an effort to convey what's happening to the people living in these cities before we start changing them up left and right. Could protect us from any anti-Hive sentiments brewing across Human space.
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>>2995153
>Y
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>>2995170
Customs mitigates problems just like the Barracks. Both are need for maximum effect.
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>>2995175
New Research Available
>Psionic cloak amplification
Fast
Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

Current Research
Your thinkers assemble themselves to focus on a number of different research topics, allowing you to choose one as your primary topic, and two as secondary research projects. The primary research project will receive three rolls per day for progress, while secondary projects receive two. In addition to your thinkers, you may gain additional research rolls from other sources. Vassal Hives shall offer their own thinkers to you as tribute and non-hive allies specialized in research all can be used to run their own Auxiliary research projects, granting one roll per day each. Multiple Auxiliary rolls can be assigned to the same research subject, and if left alone, will choose a topic of their own interest. A vassal hive may research anything, while non-hive allies possess specializations in their fields of study, and offer special bonuses when researching subjects in their fields.

Additional rolls can be purchased from external sources through trade or political treaties with Theseus and other factions. Such external rolls can be assigned to any research project, including your Primary or Secondary projects, and all participating factions will receive the research upon its completion.

+++Primary
>Advanced Psionic Imprinting

++Secondary
>Psionic Spores
>Gas Giant Superstructure Construction

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
>Empty

Elizabeth Vaughn
Specializations: Xenobiology, Quantum Mechanics, Psionics
Bonus: Zealous – Rolls twice and takes the highest result. Cannot negate critical failures.
>Empty

Adam Seiner
Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting
Bonus: Reticent – 50% chance of turning a Critical Failure into a regular failure.
UNAVAILABLE

External
Theseus
>Joint Research Project
This joint research agreement shares all pertinent data regarding the Obsidian Queen and her forces. This project grants Theseus access to basic Hive biological technology and automatically assists in reverse engineering Obsidian Queen technology. All rolls made for relevant technology is rolled twice and uses the best result.
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>>2995175
>. It's not currently suitable to sustain life but could be repaired into a Star Hive for free
>Star Hive
>For free
Well that's all I need to hear, let's do it

>>2995169
There are people living on Billiard. How they do it I don't know but they're there.
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>>2995098
We could have an open research station (Bedrock) for scientists to research what they want, potentially gaining technology we would never have thought of and if any scientists agree, we can have them research more secret technologies (like what Elisabeth and Seiner do) but they would have to defect to the Hive and move to another facility.
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Available Research Options

Multidimensional Physics
Slow/Slightly dangerous
Until now you have been entirely ignorant to the workings of the Void and the self proclaimed gods that rule this mysterious space. Now you realize some semblance of the truth, although any proper understanding comes with its own inherent risks of attracting unwanted attention, such understanding, you realize now, was the backbone of the galaxy spanning civilization of the ancient Hives of the Golden Age, long before the Schism began. Regaining such lost knowledge would be a great step towards rebuilding your race as the galactic superpower it once was.

Non-euclidean Architecture
Very Slow/Dangerous
The basis of the very crystal you now posses, as well as the hostile Void Shards, the process of compressing spacetime along the axis of a fourth spacial dimension is a key component to many technological devices of the Ancients in their prime. Such technologies explain the process by which the void shards function, as well as allow for the vast complexity of the memory archive you hold, compressing vast amounts of energy and matter into a pocket space where such terms are interchangeable and largely meaningless.

Psionic Thought Construction
Very Slow
The brief understanding granted to you by your examination of the contents of the white crystal given to you by your late mother, you realize that tachyons, like nearly any other form of particle, can be used in the construction of physical objects. Such constructs are inherently unstable outside of the multidimensional space of the Void, however, but allow for the construction machines of immeasurable complexity with relatively little effort by constructing them in a space where thoughts can be projected as concrete materials.

Empathetic Compulsion
Slow
A step further from the disruption of the nervous system, with additional fine tuning it may be possible to exert some limited control over an individual mind without the use of direct contact.

Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
Medium
Using a mixture of space station technology and modified, miniaturized capillary towers, it may be possible to create semi-permanent or fully permanent hives within the upper atmospheres of gas giants, where a mixture of atmospheric static, wind farming, and gas mining can provide a more constant and bountiful resource income while providing a more robust frame with which to construct infrastructure.

Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.
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>>2995190
Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.

Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.

Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.

Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.
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>>2995175
Holy shit, Spore artilary is fucking scary weapon.
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>>2995183
Scarred Queen is assigned to the Psionic cloak amplification
Elizabeth will begin research on Psionic Thermokinesis. I want big brains cooling our ship shields.
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>>2995185
Floating cities and airships.
>>2995189
Sure but we'd need the Research ward for that.
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>Psionic Spores
Slow
While normally the hive spores used to spread infrastructure are little more than genetically engineered nanomachines, replicating and performing their function alone until their built structure is complex enough to receive mental signals, your mixture of psionic research and advancements in spore related genetic programming has made the idea of a psionically sensitive spore seem not nearly as far fetched as it once did. With a mixture of distributed networking and complex cellular reconstruction methods, it could be possible to create a spore strain that would respond to mental signals.

>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Slow
With the application of psionic imprinting you are able to influence and alter the state of matter using only focused and precise mental signals. Your thinkers believe this can be taken further, using more accurate signals and more precise manipulation methods to imprint more complex thoughts and ideas more quickly and easily, and at a greater range.

>Personal shielding
Slow
By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

>Data decryption
Medium (Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
While much of the data within the Smith mind was corrupted during the experimental extraction process or the trauma of the agent's death, there is still a good deal of encrypted data still intact. The data itself could be anything, from a revolutionary discovery to the agent's personal preference in music, or anything between. There is now way to know without decryption of the data, and the total randomness of the mystery has your thinkers begging to go to work.

>Planetary Shielding
Slow
By adding further scale to the shield dome, it is believed that an overlapping network of shields can be expanded from a series of clustered protective areas defending a planet's critical infrastructure to a vast, near total coverage shield stretching entire continents so as to protect a planet's biosphere and widespread population in addition to its military and industrial zones.

>Psionic Cannon prototype
Very slow/Very dangerous
Detailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The cannon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.
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>>2995198
No to assigning Elizabeth resea you slave driver.
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>>2995202
but I must unlock additional research options
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>>2995183

Set the Scarred Queen to researching Psionic Cloak Amplification
Set Vaughn to Psionic Spores?
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>>2995201
You really have some creative research ideas.
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>>2995198
Put Vaughn on Empathetic Compulsion. We need more infiltration powers sooner than we need pyromancy or force lightning.
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Did we tell Theseus we resurrected seiner yet?
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>>2995204
NO
>>2995208
Do you want her to break? She need a vacation.
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Why isn't Elizabeth unavailable? Mother said it's mandatory relaxation time!
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>>2995208
muh cryokinesis and thermal control in space.
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>>2995183
>+++Primary
>>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Damn Thinkers still didn't finish that even with 3 rolls?

Thing's been on the menu since thread 49. Usually we're much luckier.
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>>2995214
>>2995219
I completely forgot about this. That's right, it's vacation episode time.
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>>2995201
Man i want personnal Shielding and Planetary Shielding so badly. imagine never having to worry about debries from the Obisiqn Hive ever again because we simply cover the entire planet with a shield layer.
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>>2995223
That's not until the black metal concert.

Wait when is that exactly.
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>>2995227
It could be now.
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>>2995197
I wonder... if we copied the spongy adaption obsidian used to attempt stealth on us and coated the shell with it to help reduce viability range.
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>>2995221
All our luck went to the Scav war anon.
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Isn't it a better idea to finish faster research first? Or have most of the research slots filled by them?
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>>2995233
Faster research is better.
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>>2995227
>>2995230

Dunno it has how much time in game passed? A day? Usually these shows aren't that fast. But maybe that is just Union politics.
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>>2995201
Hey Quest, did we ever have a mobile shield generator type upgrade for some of our bigger ground and air forces? Just wondering if we could use such a thing to soak artillery or flack for a time to prolong battle group lifespan.
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>>2995231
What i want to know is if we can equip this artilary with our bio-weapons...
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>>2995237
Union politics is hilariously slow paced but I want to give her a few days of spa treatment before the concert anyway.
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>>2995235
I'm asking because most research slots are currently filled with Slow researches while we have a number of Medium and even Very Fast availiable.
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>>2995243

See
>>Personal shielding
>Slow
>By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

It's still in R&D phase.
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>>2995243
i believe that is what the new research for perssonnel shielding it's. First we put in a drone then into a bigger drone!!Then by the end we have a Titan with Personnel shielding!!!
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>>2995245
The spore launcher is just an impotent blink drive warhead.
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>>2995245
Well the shell could be modified to inject parasite drones into a ship probably instead of exploding. Full on starship troopers 2 horror movie on a ship.

>>2995250
Was thinking an area shield as opposed to personal.
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>>2995252
Also add the Queen, Hive agents and Boarding Pods to the potential users.
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>>2995258
Isn't the Shield Dome what you're loooking for?
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>>2995258
That would be Shield dome we already got that tech.
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>>2995262
>>2995268
I was asking if we had a drone based upgrade to project it over a battlegroup.

Sorry been a while since i reread our last ground combat sequence, must have missed it if we do.
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
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>>2994947
>Arnim
>[Maintain Concealment]
>This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

I just realized this must be what Union stock markets must look like right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Q6wWu5ziY
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>>2995274
Photon projectors can do something similar.
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>>2995259
Lyle with an ironman suit and personal shielding. The Void doesn't stand a chance.
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>>2995277
The vahlen bow to the bogdabots
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>>2995201
You have new research to examine, and as you are about to do so you are interrupted.

Your thinkers, eager and willing, have a minor problem. Your concert has attracted more attention than you first thought it would, and as smaller, more niche bands start to follow in the wake of the others, sending more and more requests to attend, you quickly realize you have vastly underestimated the overall scale of this event's potential.

While you could easily manage the medical needs of a small event, no more than a few dozen thousand, as more bands request to perform, the event is quickly turning from a single band tour to a massive once-in-a-lifetime multi-day event with the potential to attract many hundreds of thousands of people, a number that will begin to tax your overall thinker capacity with medical problems.

Your thinkers do have a solution, however. By diverting a small portion of your research capacity, you would not only be able to more aptly cover the visitors' medical issues, but also perform unobtrusive biological and psychological research on those attending, potentially granting you greater insight into the various sub-cultures of the single-minded. You suspect Elizabeth would be an excellent choice with her background in xeno-biology, and perhaps it would do her well to attend the event and get out of the lab for a few days.

>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
>Do not (Elizabeth will be free to research new subjects, the concert will remain its current planned size)
>Other
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Holy fuck this is still alive? I remember when this quest first started. I am legally obligated to remind everyone Lee is best Waifu
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>>2995201
Also i would say the Scarred Queen researches Psionic cloak amplification and Elizabeth goes on a vacation.
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>>2995281
>Not the bogdabugs.
Cmon anon.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
>>2995290
FUCK
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
Wow we're popular.
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)

The publicity alone makes it worth it, but we may be able to "study" some interesting creatures (such as Valen) at the Concert and having Elizabeth on hand would be a boon.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
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>>2995274
>>2995279
Photon/Hardlight Armour maybe?
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>>2995284
QD, about how many days would Elizabeth be wrapped up with the concert affairs? I'd like to know how long we're taking our head researcher out of the lab before making a decision.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
THERES NO PARTY LIKE A HIVE PARTY

>>2995288
Lee is pretty much the Hive's legal husband at this point.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)

Time for Hive Woodstock!!
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)

Give her a night to remember...
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs
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>>2995284
Also make certain she makes an incognito appearance or she has heavy guard with her.
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)


>>2995308
Probably wouldn't be more than a week?
But she really does need a vacation, and being an academic, it's not like she'd take a vacation vacation, so having this lets her relax a bit while also working on things.
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>>2995308
She needs to relax a little and what better place to have a Xeno specialist then a social even with mutiple alien species?
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
Aww yeah.

We should have part of our fleet on standby for "aerial" shows that can be watched through viewing screens and observation decks and windows. Show them some impressive maneuvers only a hive mind could pull off.
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>2995201
>(Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
If it's so Very Fast how is it not already done yesterday?

Gotta talk to Theseus's manager.
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Oh boy I made it this time. Haven't been on /qst/ since you took your break.
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>>2995317
>>2995322
A week is like, at least 14 threads IRL. I'm fine with Elizabeth decompressing for a bit but that is a huge amount of time and research for the hive at a very critical time.
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>>2995326
Because it isn't in the research slot yet. We only have three of those.
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>>2995290
>>2995293
Imagine the amount of economical chaos we can cause with our trading were we not focusing on building for war. I think it would look something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5QlSgq7lg
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>>2994947
>This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

Perhaps we should consider making some sort of Hive Currency, for human subjects in our systems to use. That way we could make a credit profit from people converting credits to our money, which we can use when we want to do buisness with the Union.
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>>2995284
You send the details to Elizabeth, and while confused at the overall plan, she understands her expertise will be needed. Likewise, the various bands' managers are pleased to hear the news, and your workers once again begin expanding the venue into a massive multi-gravitational complex, using gravity plating to create a massive concert hall with both proper acoustics and a space efficiency beyond what would normally be physically possible. You turn back to the other research matters.

>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
>Request the Scarred Queen's thinkers move to something else
>Other
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>>2995326
We should talk to Theseus's parents (Elizabeth and Seiner), and complain about their bad parenting and son's lack of a work ethic.
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>>2995330
She can still do research using the medical pods do probe the alien teens minds and injecting then with parasites to become hive agents.

A good way to male our image and have her show off the biological augments she has. Maybe the nerd that is a Theseus agent wi replace his second set of arms for a hive one.
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>>2995331
It was started before the finite slots system existed.

>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal

>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995337
>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal

psionic cloaking is the way to go.
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>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
I don't know exactly what this proposal is, but it involves more research by the only other living queen, so I'm all for it.
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>>2995337
>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995338
It's all cuz his father left him to pursue an older woman. Millions of years older than him, even.
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>>2995337
>while confused at the overall plan
You're not the only one. I think our thinkers are faulty.
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>>2995357
kek
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>>2995353
She is researching psionic cloaking so it is able to cover a entire planet with it.
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>>2995337
It's too bad so many Commonwealth planets have such strict immigration and emigration laws.

Not many of their teens are able to legally leave their home planet to go to this sweet concert.
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>>2995368
I am reminded of the first time we came up with the idea of cloaking an entire planet in one of the early threads, back when it seemed completely impossible. Nice to see the dream never died.
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>>2995378
Eh i'm pretty sure they are not even aware of that and are much more worried with the two front war that is happening in their territory.
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+++Primary
>Advanced Psionic Imprinting

++Secondary
>Psionic Spores
>Gas Giant Superstructure Construction

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
Psionic cloak amplification
Fast
Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

Elizabeth Vaughn
Specializations: Xenobiology, Quantum Mechanics, Psionics
Bonus: Zealous – Rolls twice and takes the highest result. Cannot negate critical failures.
>Busy with random event: The Heavy Metal Queen

Adam Seiner
Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting
Bonus: Reticent – 50% chance of turning a Critical Failure into a regular failure.
UNAVAILABLE

External
Theseus
>Joint Research Project
This joint research agreement shares all pertinent data regarding the Obsidian Queen and her forces. This project grants Theseus access to basic Hive biological technology and automatically assists in reverse engineering Obsidian Queen technology. All rolls made for relevant technology is rolled twice and uses the best result.

Elizabeth watches the scavenger broodmother stir in the medical pod as workers shuffle back and forth carrying various pieces of equipment and crates of luggage with her mental direction. More easily replicable equipment is already being assembled in your space city into a designated chamber within the resort, part laboratory, part medical center. Her mind seems cloudy with recent events. She closes her eyes and thinks of elsewhere in the hive, her vision shifting to the eyes of some wall mounted sensor cluster as she watches Seiner meditate in silence. His mind is gone, at least from your own psionic sense, though his brain shows a similar pattern to that of a human state of dreaming, but the information within is obscured from you, muddled, as if his mind were not truly there, but just a shadow of the true physical self. Whatever implants were provided to him within the vault, it seems to be having its effect. The occipital lobe of the brain shows increasing alterations, and parts of the nervous system are firing in ways that should not be possible for a human's biology, while his vital signs have slowed, as if entering some manner of hibernation.

Cont.
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>>2995388
We have come pretty far.
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>>2995378
This reminds me that we should be sending more stealth pods into commonwealth space and infiltrating their space as well.
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>>2995397
Wait...is Seiner doing cultivation?At least that's what it looks like. It seems he will be on it for a long time if that is the case...
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>>2995393
Doesn't it depend on the planet? There are feudal worlds in the Commonwealth whose inhabitants don't probably know what happens outside of their village.
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>>2995401
We have so much stuff to do already lets focus in our current space okay?
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>>2995397
I'm still kinda sad we brutally murdered the original Seiner, instead continuing his work with a clone.
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>>2995378
>>2995393

I love the fact we been playing up this angle of not giving a fuck about all these wars going on, acting as if this is all beneath us and how pathetic the humans are

I mean union and commonwealth high commands are completely right about how bad the optics would be if they behaved like how we throwing a concert on a just opened resort while these wars going on

Its a real "Let them eat cake" moment and we can get away with it since we been playing up the ancient and all powerful aliens angle
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>>2995410
fiiine
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>>2995397
>automatically assists in reverse engineering Obsidian Queen technology. All rolls made for relevant technology is rolled twice and uses the best result.

Do we even know what we found in the OQ hive ship wreckage yet?

This hasn't been a very productive teamup, Theseus.
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>>2995409
Well we advertised our place to the Commonwealth and most of the major lords, leaders generals and admirals said that they would rather wait the war to be over.

Maybe a young teen heard about the show and wants to experiment?
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>>2995408
He's on a spirit quest.
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>>2995414
>yes yes you younglings go have your war. Mother will be there after you make up with cookies and concerts.
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>>2995397
>Busy with random event: The Heavy Metal Queen
Sounds Brutal. You know I wonder if we could make treating people at the event a spectacle like having a guard zero gravity dunk an overdose victim into the biotanks across the room.
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>>2995397
>Busy with random event: The Heavy Metal Queen

So should we discuss hive produced memorabilia and or clothing to commemorate the event with one of a kind items that will never be reproduced again to artificially raise their value and infuse the market with highly coveted death metal themed hive products.
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>>2995414
Need to do some politics nothing stop us to do war AND politics at the same time. The humans are just too bad in doing the two at the same time.
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>>2995425
I just can't wait for the zero-g mosh pit. Motherfuckers will get thrown around like balloons.
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>>2995428
Metallic pets! Everything you find in the petshop except an eight the size and a skin made of metal!
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>>2995425
Well it's not really a zero-gravity dunk, is it.

It's an ever shifting and readjusting vector and intensity of gravity that does half the dunking for you.
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>>2995414
I've been thinking about this a lot, and the best response I can give anyone who asks is "the ancient hives fought with each other constantly. Death tolls measured in the trillions and damages in dozens of biospheres. They continued to fight even though they were beset by enemies, and this is why they are no more. However, you may repeat these mistakes if you wish: it is not the first time in recorded Human history that such an event has occurred."
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>>2995422
>Seiner will become our cult leader

Well i guess that Hive cult is becoming more and more likely as the time pass..
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>>2995425
Now that you mentioned it i wonder what the security at the event will be. Drones and human guards? Hive agents?
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>>2995441
is that more or less impressive?
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>>2995433
Except for the Skyl. Wings and all. Actually, the lack of gravity will make it even better for them/make them seem more badass.
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>>2995446
Drones with a large amount of speakers.
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>>2995428
Man the Valen are just going to have another stroke just like they had when we had our speaker talk with then using the voice of the dead.
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>>2995446
Lots of speakers, psionic-lockdown from multiple advanced relays, hardlight barriers. Overt Hive security agents.

We should probably bring some ships to guard it too. The concert is a pretty tempting target for the Ceph fleets and the emergence of the Skyl may draw their attention. There's also a (lower) risk of an OQ or Scav attack as well.
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>>2995446
I would say to use our Chimera's for that heavy death metal feel, but those are supposed to be a black-ops tier secret.
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>>2995446
Why not both?
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>>2995414
Yes, players foolishly voted for Commonwealth elites option, instead of picking the political pro-xeno option that has actual potential benefits.

But the pro-xeno Union fringe option chose us instead anyway. We missed out on the bonus of it having been our idea.

Although really if we adjusted the invitation to the Commonwealth masses instead now. But we'd have to lobby people like the imperial court in Aquarius to acknowledge this as a special occasion, celebrating the start of the holy crusade against the invaders or whatever, so relax the passport laws for a while.
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>>2995458
We could offer free “implants” to prevent psychic backlash.

>>2995463
If the Chimera wear armor they just look like fully armored humans. I actually support this idea.
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>>2995463
This just made me realize we could customize the appearance of everything to match the event including the drones and guards.
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>>2995466
Meh i just send the invitation to then first because i wanted to give the middle claw to the Union as a whole.
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>>2995466
Yeah, I thought the CW elite idea was too narrow as well. Oh well, at least we are getting *some* good press from union factions for this. We need it.
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We can't forget that we need to work on some recreational drugs to add to the party. All the drug dealers and gangs gonna try to enter the party to sell their stuff and we can parasite then and study the stuff.

The credits gonna flow from this concert!
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>>2995477
We've got a pretty damn impressive collection of chemicals already in the pastebin.
The real hard question is do we offer voluntary "basic healthcare" to the visitors in the form of secondary hearts?
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>>2995443
Uh dude we are the ones acting like assholes by doing this while whole worlds are burning in these wars

and i have no idea what moral message your trying to send with that message as the scav invasion is an extinction level event where putting everything into the war front is necessary given what we found out what happened to there other victims

And the union v commonwealth one, the union had it coming for being a bunch of dicks
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>>2995477
We should probably get samples of all the drugs that are going to be used at the event.
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>>2995461
I'm actually worried how the Ceph in the Union will react to the Skyl. Wil they recognise them as their masters betrayers? Will they connect them to the demons in the Ceph religion (the Hive but they don't realise that yet)?
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>>2995481
We've always come off as not caring what the lesser races do as long as they don't touch the important things. There's no moral message to send. As to the Scavs I believe the humans would eventually defeat the scavs even without our help with the scavs apparent reliance on the worldships making them a huge target for a gravitic kamikaze.
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>>2995499
ah ok my bad
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>>2995481
My point is that if the humans complain about us taking sides in their war, we can't claim to have a moral high ground because different hives fought all the time and on a much more devastating scale, and uninvolved parties did not intervene. Also while the scav invasion is certainly as bad as you say, the ancient queens are all dead precisely because of this kind of infighting even in the face of incoming external threat.

So basically, knowing both humanity's and the ancient hives' history, there's basically nothing we can say about their war except tell them it's stupid but nothing we can say will make them stop until one side wins or they get exterminated from the outside.
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>>2995483
Of course we are doing that as well as monitoring all the effects the drugs will cause in the different species.

>>2995480
Only for those that become hove citizens which after this concert some people might actually do.
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>>2995397
The news footage flickers with the slight imperfections of the ship board Q-comm stream as various intelligence reports and personal letters subtly alter the public broadcast's image. A news reporter, a relatively young woman likely in her early thirties stands along the outskirts of a massive crowd which, to the shock of anyone watching Union news in the past few weeks, actually seems happy. The reporter walks along the outside of the massive crowd as she speaks into the microphone, simultaneously looking over the crowd for a potential interview as she speaks.

"I'm here today outside the customs enforcement office at the New Prescott interstellar space port where people have come out in droves to attend a surprise cultural event in Hive space. The Union administration officials have already stated that they are not in cooperation with this event, and that anyone who wishes to attend will need to have their passports in order just as any other transit outside of Union territory would require. The requirements on the Hive's end, however, seem to be far more lax, with no statement of any form of identification requirements having been made at all, and a flagrant advertisement of a total lack of restrictions on any form of substance abuse or moral codes." The reporter turns to a pair of young men dressed in odd attire, leather coats and torn jean pants, the shorter of the two waves at the camera, smiling as the reporter moves over to them, while the taller of the two laughs at his compatriot.

"Hey, is this live?" He asks with some unusually heightened amusement."

"We are." the reporter says. "Are you planning on attending the cultural event in Hive space?"

"You bet your ass we are, lady!" The man says, the other nodding profusely.

"And what exactly is the main reason you have for leaving Union space to attend a music concert?" She asks, in what you can tell is a clear setup for some manner of leading question.

"We're gonna smoke what no man has smoke before, get high on shit that doesn't have a name yet." He says as the other gives a thumbs up at the comment. "I heard some natives are gonna be there, maybe get freaky with an alien." He finishes, he looks over to a concerned look on his friend and shrugs. "What? It depends on what they look like, just cuz no alien we've seen is sexy doesn't mean it can't happen." The look of concern lessens, and he gives a half-hearted shrug. The reporter is clearly unsure how to continue, whatever leading question being built up to entirely demolished with the frank response.

"So you're just going there for there drugs and sex?"

"And the rock 'n roll. The trifecta of life, man!" The two both begin headbanging, air-playing make believe instruments to a song only they seem to hear.

The screen flickers off, and is replaced with the stern looking full body holograms of the secretaries in the already cramped medical bay of the Union corvette.

cont.
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>>2995502
At least what we can do is build a defensive grid so they can solve their scrabble and hopefully once they are done they can help us with ghe Void and the Obisidian Queen.

But most likely the only humans that will help us will be the ones unhappy with thwir current situation or the rebels/anarquist lile Kent's group that will use the Hive way of governament to create their own private factions.
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>>2995518
I don't think anyone is actually expecting human help in dealing with anything important. I for one just hope they don't fuck up too badly again.
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>>2995499
While the Hive has defeated the Scavengers in every encounter (in the worst cases with heavy loses) we don't know the full numbers of their fleets or the extend of their technology. They could have hidden surprises and they are almost as good at reverse engineering as the Hive. We should be careful with them.
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>>2995509

Hoping for sexy aliens. Truly a man after my own heart
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>>2995526
>They could have hidden surprises and they are almost as good at reverse engineering as the Hive.
No they're not. One of our speakers even made a comment about how slow they are with their reverse engineering.
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>>2995502
I think you're worrying too much about the 'moral high ground'. The very concept is a uniquely human concept, one that has changed wildly throughout their history.

As for the Commonwealth vs. Union war, I'd honestly argue that such a development is a positive influence on their progression as a species. By having such large conflicts between themselves they're much better prepared for an alien assault then they'd be otherwise. Think of all the military hardware the Commonwealth has poured out over the years, despite being relatively impoverished compared to the Union. They wouldn't have any of that if they never fought an interstellar war with the Union.

Mankind's warlike tendency's ultimately make them that much better prepared for inevitably conflict than any other independent species we've encountered so far.
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>>2995525
Same.

>The screen flickers off, and is replaced with the stern looking full body holograms of the secretaries in the already cramped medical bay of the Union corvette.

And here comes the political impact. So how many agents are they sending to investigate this new Hive instalation?
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>>2995509
>The screen flickers off, and is replaced with the stern looking full body holograms of the secretaries in the already cramped medical bay of the Union corvette.

Dammit Devon, I was almost hoping the universe had forgotten you existed. You are so burned it's like you kissed a Canian.
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>"We're gonna smoke what no man has smoke before, get high on shit that doesn't have a name yet." He says as the other gives a thumbs up at the comment. "I heard some natives are gonna be there, maybe get freaky with an alien." He finishes, he looks over to a concerned look on his friend and shrugs. "What? It depends on what they look like, just cuz no alien we've seen is sexy doesn't mean it can't happen." The look of concern lessens, and he gives a half-hearted shrug. The reporter is clearly unsure how to continue, whatever leading question being built up to entirely dem

Truly the best of humanity
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>>2995547
Every thread I kick myself a little harder, knowing that we burned an asset micromanaging Lyle's firework display while, while we could have had him hanging of Killinger's shoulder for the biggest reveals of the quest...
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>>2995547
I could taste the salt whem i read that they nuked their own station in the expanse so they could deny us salvage their tech.

Now with this show? They will think that everyone will be a potential Hive agent.
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>>2995548
Humanity's true goal is just to fuck every alien race in the galaxy.
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>>2995530
Ok the Hive is one of the best in reverse engineering (mere days as opposed to the Scavengers weeks) but we should still not allow them the chance to get more technology. They already got drop suits from the Commonwealth and who knows what else they have.
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>>2995561
But what if the genitalia aren't compatible?
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>>2995561
Hey that was how the Homo Sapiens defeated the neandertal we breeded with the fuckers and out breeded then it's basicaly in our dna to do that kind of stuff.
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>>2995564
A hole's a hole
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>>2995564
Dry-hump.
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>>2995564
We make them compatible
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>>2995564
That's why there is a mouth.
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>>2995568
every hole a goal
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>>2995531
It is a positive influence if they don't end up crippling or destroying themselves because of it. I hope if there is an emergency where we need them to make peace, we can convince them to stop the war.
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>>2995509
Also jesus, the hive wasn't even publicly known as a faction when Michael Devon was captured by the Valen. This is not the news to wake up to.
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>>2995595
Oh geez now i'm worried that they found our parasite inside Devon...
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>>2995595
>This is not the news to wake up to.
But it is the sort he would hear to bring him up to speed.
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>>2995602
I highly doubt that since that'd come from absolutely nowhere.
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>>2995509
>"We're gonna smoke what no man has smoke before, get high on shit that doesn't have a name yet."
Indeed you will child, indeed you will.

>>2995602
They probably didn't find it yet...
The difficulty is going to be to find a way to keep Devon useful enough to the Union they don't burn him, without giving away he's compromised. Given the Union knows hive equivalent tech is capable of duplicating a human perfectly (due to the Cluster incident), and that they know Devon was captured by Hive agents long before we revealed ourselves, it will be quite a dance to keep him as a valuable asset.
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>>2995595
Yikes. At this rate we're going to have to burn Devon for real just to cover up our espionage. We still have his doctor so it isn't a total wash I suppose.
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>>2995615
Let's not get hasty. no one even knows we can mind control people.
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>>2995611
>I highly doubt that since that'd come from absolutely nowhere.
>nowhere
>Nowhere

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>>2995509
Hey since the black metal concert is a once in a dozen lifetimes space woodstock, will Mr. Krasnikov the decrepit step out of his time dilation to attend?

Wonder if this was his kind of scene when he was a young man. We gotta get that guy out of his space house and into our medical pods.
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>>2995621
It's assumed we have mind control but it's unknown how it works.
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>>2995628
wait since when?
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>>2995631
A while ago. Morgan said they figured out we have mind control from all the clues.
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>>2995613
Also they now know that the hive has a triplex dna maki g easier to identify hibrids. If we want to use clone agents it will need tobe the ones without a direct connection and packed with Hive augs.
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>>2995626
That dude is counting his life time by the seconds. He ain't coming out of time dilation until we have personally guaranteed him an eternal life time supply of rejuvenation treatments.
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>>2995631
Since the Valen sold the info of their reunion with us. The Valen have empathic powers they can hear and the Hive can Talk so if a corporate is assuming the Hive can control minds. Then every thing is possible
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>>2995631
Since eating dinner with Valen. >>1397237
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>>2995509
Killinger's holographic figure flickers as he turns from the holoscreen to Devon, and then back to the secretary council. Even through the hologram, Devon tenses as if expecting a punch, the man's cold anger clear as Killinger shifts from foot to foot, as if desperately looking for an outlet for his anger. He points to Devon with his full hand, as if brandishing a knife.

"You were ordered to find and arrest a man, and failing that, kill him. Instead, you cause an international incident with the Valen gate builders, you lose a Smith, a corvette, and several paroled criminals, and at the end of it all you manage to let the most dangerous human alive in the known goddamn galaxy not just get away, but capture you, and then make off with an infamous smuggler and a fucking SecCom defector into the territory of the one species that just managed to strip away half of our goddamn territory with gunboat diplomacy like we were a bunch of weaponless pre-flight mongrels!" His shouting cracendoes as his pointed hand curls into a fist, the force of his fist shaking his whole arm as his face burns read. "And you have no goddamn idea what happened?" He shouts, and as he quickly moves closer to the holo-camera a swing of his hand sends a lamp in his path across the room with a crash of broken glass and snapped plastic. The hologram of him moves closer, as if he were trying to will himself physically there.

"It's true, sir. I have a similar mental block. I suspect they used some kind of drug, an amnestic or..." Grey attempts to say, but is quickly interrupted.

"Wrong goddamn answer!" Killinger shouts back. Devon clears his throat for a quick moment before attempting to speak.

"Sir, we were hit with an atomic, there was nothing in the reports of-"

"No!" Killinger says, quickly turning back to Devon. "No there wasn't, but there was plenty about how he's a crazy, psychotic madman who's fought a Smith and come out the other end. There was the fact he has a defector SecCom agent on his side that should tell you enough from just that, or how about his buddy who's on first name basis with almost every criminal gang leader on Gemini, and you don't think he was going to do something to surprise you?"

"Sir I-" Killinger holds up his hand, the image colliding slightly with Devon's chin.

"Another word and I'll have you shot out that airlock." He says. Both of them knows full well he has no such authority. Such a punishment doesn't even exist in the Union, but the threat seems sincere all the same. Killinger walks back to his desk, leaning on it with a tightly bound fist for several seconds as the rest of the room sits in silence. A moment later the tension breaks, and Killinger shouts out a curse as he sends his fist into a nearby wall. The hologram picks up little of it, with only a brief image of a shockingly deep dent in a polymer wall before it vanishes from the holocamera's background filter.
cont.
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>>2995639
The Valen know we have mind reading powers, not necessarily mind control.
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>>2995636
We can just gibe him the same Aug we gave to Anderson and make him our other Spy.
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>>2995641
Oh he mad and this is after everything happend. lol
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>>2995643
Some people suspect we can mind control. The Valen know we can communicate with telephaty yes.
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>>2995641
>The hologram picks up little of it, with only a brief image of a shockingly deep dent in a polymer wall before it vanishes from the holocamera's background filter.
Hold up, this is obvious use of augments, wasn't there a bit where he said he'll finally claim his heritage or something? Maybe he's related to the guy who lead the smith research way back.
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>>2995653
Oh yeah, Killinger just went from king of the universe who has everything under control and his enemies dancing on hidden strings to getting btfo by a powerful alien empire which has a grudge against him personally. And it’s looking like he may lose the election on Talgo. No shit he’s pissed.
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>>2995641
Welp, there goes whatever shred of influence Devon may have had in the Union government. What a waste...
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>cause an international incident with the Valen gate builders, you lose a Smith, a corvette, and several paroled criminals, and at the end of it all you manage to let the most dangerous human alive in the known goddamn galaxy not just get away, but capture you, and then make off with an infamous smuggler and a fucking SecCom defector into the territory of the one species that just managed to strip away half of our goddamn territory with gunboat diplomacy like we were a bunch of weaponless pre-flight mongrels
Yeah, it was pretty good.

>>2995659
For everything we got out of it, I'd say it was worth.
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>>2995659
Devon was a mishandled asset, no question about it, but we *might* be able to salvage this. Killinger sounds desperate. He may think Devin is loyal and Devon’s failure doesn’t sound so bad when we consider no one anticipated he would go up against an agent fully backed by an alien empire.
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Nanomachine augented killinger?
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>>2995657
That isn't quite what he said.
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>>2995660
We didn't get a thing out of it then if we had him stay on Gemini. Everything that happened would have happened anyway without his presence.
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>>2995643
Actually after searching through the thoughts of the guy from Krashnikov in thread 63.2 their intel team was pretty certain that the Hive can read and control minds though they didn't know how and believed it required time to do so.
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>>2995658
>>2995663

Us bringing up that we're suspicious of his opponent in the election having an artifact the hive empire is looking out for would probably be a lot of leverage he could desperately use.
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>>2995671
What did he say then?
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>>2995673
Do you happen to have a quote. Maybe I’m blind, but I can’t find that in the thread.

>>2995674
I agree, but Devon doesn’t know anything about the hive (although he knows a little about artifacts). If we go this way we have to be very careful no to give ourselves away.
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Well considering what happend i take it Devon would know that at least the Hive had given Lyle some kind of supersuit or something.

but it looks like we wiped his entire memory and of the crew too.
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>>2995681
All he really needs is the information on weird dreams and to connect that with mind control.
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>>2995681
They discuss it here:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1394302/#p1397237
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>>2995684
Yeah but our memory wipe is pretty efficient so there is no lingering dreams or anything that he will remember unless we want to.
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>>2995663
I say we throw Devon a bone and find a way for him to get something "usefull" for the Union. Maybe a bit of our old tech some such. It will help make sure that Devon remains a useful mole and make the Union a bit less panicked if it can be shown that we are not beyond the comprehension of lesser species.
>>2995658
Him losing the election would be bad. Killinger is a known element, caring for himself foremost. If we make it clear to him that any action against the hive would hurt him, he wont do it as long as the alternatives are not worse. His opponent is seemingly devoted to his cause, and is a zealot. Manipulating him will be like like playing with dynamite. Sure, it can be useful, but id prefer for it not to blow up in my face.
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>>2995681
"So valen read minds, these things control them?"

"We know at least two humans jumped ship and are working with them. The others reported gaps in their memory and strange dreams." The man says. "It's not out of the question, although it's doubtful that even if they can that they can pull it off immediately. I've assembled an itinerary for you that will keep you as far from their embassy as possible until the moment before you arrive."
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>>2995687
What do you think I'm talking about here? Because I'm about Killinger's political opponent.
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>>2995681
Torres's flashback was already linked earlier. >>2995639
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>>2995688
I'd say we could leak intel about the OQ that could have been gleaned from Devon's encounter with her scout ships outside of Bedrock.

But then again, she did mount a full scale invasion of Path just a couple days later so I can't imagine it would be anything new to the Union....
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>>2995686
>>2995690

Thanks Anon.
If even the corps suspect we have some level of mind control abilities, the government almost certainly believes so as well.

>>2995688
Id like to throw Devon a bone too, but we need to make sure he doesn’t give himself away somehow, which is difficult. We need to see what options QD throws our way.
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>>2995688
Actually I think Killinger (while a corrupt bastard) has genuine concern for his fellow man, he just thinks most of his fellow men are idiots.
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ah that one joke vote will forever haunt us.
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>>2995699
Yeah,I kind of agree. Him and the Security Council tend to seem corrupt, and they are, but the net intent and sometimes result of their corruption is the betterment of the Union.
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>>2995699
too bad he's a cunt eh
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>>2995706
Agreed but, to be fair, a lot of the immaturity can be blamed on the fact that the queen is an infant. Jokes are important to children. Most children are just "slightly" less powerful than us and lack access to hyper-intelligent thinkers.

>>2995699
Agreed. Killinger is an utter ass, but we can probably work with that once we convince him our sole purpose in life isn't to make him eat shit. That's only our second purpose, after defeating the Void and OQ
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>>2995707
>>2995709
It's kind of funny really. If he wasn't so dickish and his ego didn't go to his head we could have been great allies. Even Magnus admits Killinger is the best at what he does.
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>>2995712
Yup.Make damn sure he knows fucking with us and dicking around with the Void is bad for him and that staying on our good side is good for him and the Union. We've kicked his shit in a lot, so lets be nice...and also cheeky, but that goes without saying.
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>>2995699
He's like the villain in some stories where he takes good care of the people who are on his side unless those same people betray or fail him. Then he gets rid of them with extreme prejudice.
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>>2995713
He killed his neighbor’s cat, authorized the abduction of our drones, and sent the Smith to attack the Queen. He is a superb dick.

We can work with him sure, but the hive is certainly not above holding a grudge.
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Yo guys I think I found footage of first contact between humanity and scavengers.

https://youtu.be/9KXtWfjeRmY
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>>2995718
Technically to send a Smith needs all members of the council to vote in favor of it. So even if he proposed it, the whole council would have to agree including Morgan.
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>>2995641
Killinger moves back to his desk, standing over a stack of papers and data pads as he tosses his chair aside, sending it spinning over to the wall on its swivelling wheels and vanishing from the projection as you hear it hit something off screen. He looks down blankly at the contents of his desk as he leans on it with both hands, his head almost rose red and covered in sweat as several veins become visible as the hologram slowly increases the definition as he remains still.

"Jack." He says, more calmly, his voice cracking slightly with a hoarse tone. He takes a sip of water from a nearby glass. "Things are getting out of hand. We need to push up our schedule, take over the debriefing while I make some calls."

"Very well." Jack says. Killinger presses a button on his desk with a tired expression, his finger still shaking as blood becomes visible along his knuckles, and his image vanishes. The others continue to look to where the image was, as if still concerned he may somehow hear them, until Jack speaks up.

"Things have... escalated since your departure." Jack says. Alexandra lets out a deliberately loud chortle at the statement. Jack turns to her with some small indignation.

"Every plan we've had has been thrown back in our face." She says. "Your boys have been in the thick of most of it."

"How's Mars looking, DuPont?" Jack asks pointedly. "Our jobs overlap, but we still have our own projects. Let me deal with my agents, and I'll let you deal with yours. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate the rest of us questioning your falling back from Sol."

"DuPont wasn't the one who attacked it in the first place." Morgan says. "So far she has responded diligently to the Commonwealth invasion, but so far it seems to be your divisions have been the cause, not the botched solution, to most of these recent problems. I think maybe we should rethink these policies of so-called projects. As you said, our jobs have a lot of overlap, maybe we should start having the same policy for our briefings and intel reports." Jack shoots him a glaring look, but ignores it as he turns back to Devon.

"Anyways, things have gotten increasingly out of control. We have multiple unaccounted for events, and the whole of the Expanse has become an intelligence blind spot. While I don't hold you responsible for all of that, all of you here have utterly failed in your objective in quite possibly the most politically damaging way possible. We can now only assume all of your targets are now Hive intelligence assets, if they weren't already. We've had to swap all of our codes, scramble the offices, we've already changed just about every lock on Gemini as a result of this data breach and it still is going to hurt."

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>>2995723
That's assuming Killinger follows the rules, which he repeatedly has not. He tried to use a stealth ship to blow up a political rival. I doubt that sort of stuff is allowed under Union law, but he tried it anyway.
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>>2995730
The only rules that matter are how the universe works. Everything else is free game.
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>>2995726
Wow, looks like we’re back in the thick of it already. Seems like the Union is more desperate and less paranoid than I thought (unless this is an elaborate sting operation designed to feed the Hive false intel or reveal Devon...)
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>>2995730
Wasn't the whole rest of the council in on that? They were even discussing it before the vote for the King Bill.
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>>2995726
Checking the archives. Remember in early days when update posts were sometimes a single sentence? Pepperidge Farm remembers. >>>/tg/32663007 https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/32662381/#32663007
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Is the data breach refering to Dillon being a defector or sometging else?
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>>2995749
Maybe it is in reference to the senticom raid we pulled on the AI facility that also had Void info?
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>>2995749
the incident at the smith factory
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>>2995744
Graves been rubbing off on him I think. They're dating or something with how buddy buddy they've gotten
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>>2995749
doubt it since Morgan hasn't committed suicide by multiple rounds to the back of the head.
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>>2995749
>>2995754
>>2995755
I think people have forgotten how much damage we've done.
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>>2995754
But was there any evidence that the mercenaries (actually Hive agents) who took part in the raid had any relation to the Hive?
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>>2995765
Theseus was involved and a Smith was exposed to the general public.
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>>2995765
We caused a unity outbreak during the raid
Given that and all the other incidents happening within what? 3 months it is a understandable call to do a complete overhaul of there security
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>>2995726
"Have we seen any sign of them since?" Devon asks. Jack shuffles his intel reports in his hands.

"A few cloak wakes across Union space, some in the Expanse during the evacuation. We can't tell which ones are Lyle and which are Ceph pathfinders, but either they have a very strong interest in Hive space, or the Hive has cloaking tech too."

"Are we able to confirm that yet?" Alexandra asks. "The reports you sent me are still vague, and if they decide to make their Commonwealth support overt, I don't want any more surprises."

"No, but the circumstantial evidence is becoming overwhelming." Jack replies. "Given the fact that they were able to just sneak up on us like this, I went back and scoured some past reports in the Expanse. Unusual Ceph activity has been reported for a while now, we either have to conclude that the Ceph pathfinders are incredibly interested in that region, or they have stealth tech."

"Why not both?" Devon asks. "We know the Ceph have a theocracy that has placed some religious significance in the area since the Union started colonization." Jack snaps a finger as he points to Devon.

"I didn't want to be the one to give the bad news, but exactly. That kind of observation is why you're having this debriefing and not rotting in a valen black site in exchange for political brownie points. Keep them coming because I think Killinger is still mulling over that extradition charge they gave us."

"So am I." Morgan says. "You were told the gravity of the situation when you went in. For some reason Lyle and his crew placed more importance on your rescue than we did. Quite frankly I'm concerned over the implications."

"You think we have a mole?" Jack asks.

"I know we do. I'm more worried about who it is. If you're not convinced we have a current and active intelligence breach I'm going to press for a no confidence vote."

"I tend to agree." Jack replies. "Nothing to do about it on our end though. We have agents to manage that kind of thing. My team is open to the idea that the Hive has biological or mental means of manipulation and intelligence gathering we otherwise lack the capacity to resist or detect. Everyone here has passed a basic medical exam, and when you get back on Gemini you'll all have the option to retire or volunteer for a neural probe. Legally speaking we can't force you to undergo such a procedure, but I'll put it like this, that extradition charge can be made to fit anyone we don't trust. Anyways, Ceph interest was a major reason for our initial inspections of the Expanse worlds. It turned up a horde of artifacts with properties unknown to our science, and now two alien species, one of which is an apparent master of that unknown scientific principal."

"Two?" Devon asks. "I assume the Hive is one." Jack looks through his notes again.

cont.
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>>2995767
Funny then that the raid was originally planned by a guy (Kent who also unleashed the Theseus instance) who had no relation to the Hive at the time.
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Now that I think of it Killinger is probably a Legendary Leader in term of mechanics.
>>2995777
More like the last month. Hell the last week was dense with happenings.
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>>2995780
>"You think we have a mole?" Jack asks.
>"I know we do. I'm more worried about who it is. If you're not convinced we have a current and active intelligence breach I'm going to press for a no confidence vote."

Yep, time to either get Devon out of there or burn his trail hard.
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>>2995780
And there it is folks.
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>>2995780

Neural probe and second species???

>Concern
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>>2995780
If we can just isolate Devon, then we can remove his parasite, wipe his mind and use other precautions, then grab him afterwords and replant him.
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>>2995780
You know, I think its kinda weird that despite the Expanse allegedly being a hotbed of Ceph activity, we have yet to actually be attacked by Ceph Voidcutters after all this time..
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>>2995794
We could wipe his mind with the parasite then self destruct said parasite.
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>>2995780
So could we manage to bypass a neural probe and a medical exam? Assuming they're not going to do a full vivisection to find the spinebuddy.
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>>2995800
That's because we only started making waves recently.
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>>2995780
The whole rescue op was supposed to not appear to be Lyle and his two bros in any way whatsoever, Dillon was trying to help make it appear as generic as possible.

There was some attempt to claim Decker contacted them when he hacked the Valen through his spine.

That attempt utterly failed then.
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>>2995806
so it would appear.
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>>2995801
That is the least we can do. Im worries that a neural probe may pick up sufficient abnormalities to warrant further bullshit. If he cant be isolated, then we get a fly to him(to see what happens,mind wipe him and self destruct our spinepal.
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>>2995794
Don't forget Gilliam should he also be targeted.
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>>2995780
>Two species
Interesting. Are they referring to the Cluster, the Void, or perhaps another species altogether?

Maybe we can use Devon to draw inferences between the Ceph calling the Hive Demons, the Ceph interest in the expanse, and the "Great Enemy" the Hive mentioned during our interviews. This would (obviously) be extremely dangerous, but it may allow us to salvage Devon as a valuable agent. Obviously this would be a long term plan.

>>2995800
The hive has been quite hidden until the last couple of weeks. We should probably anticipate an attack soon, though.

>>2995794
>>2995801
We might be able to hide the scan or get to the doctors administering the scan. We don't know how capable the neural probe is. We have to "volunteer" though, or lose Devon as an asset.
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>>2995780
"Three actually, depending on how you count them. The Skyl seem to have made the artifacts, the Hive doesn't seem to need them, whatever properties the artifacts possess is innate to them. Then the Hive, obviously, and then this new intelligence nightmare dug up from the ice on Djin that's straight out of a horror story. Shapeshifting, direct neural link communication, more or less capable of directly sucking information from your skull, eating you alive, and then becoming you and taking your place. Fortunately most of the insides seem wrong, and it has triplex DNA like the Hive, so we have tests for it, but still, apparently this thing used to be a major player on the geopolitical scene back when the Hive was in their prime."

"So they are allies?" Grey asks.

"No, more like peers. I suspect they have their own differences but I'm betting they'd consider each other a closer relation than us." Jack says. "No, we're probably looking more like a bunch of insects swarming over their old childhood summer home. So far they seem okay with just pushing us over to the back porch but if we fuck up I've got no doubt they would choose one another over any human faction, Union or Commonwealth."

"Do we have any confirmation they are that advanced? I haven't seen any data to show them having anything beyond the Unity at this point, though their nano-constructor tech is impressive and their biology is clearly a specialized field."

"It's not about tech, it's about galactic social class." Jack says back. "The Hive used to be power players, and this war has knocked them down a few pegs apparently. Now if you're a millionaire, and you go broke, do you suddenly see joe schmoe as your peer? No, you resent that dirty fuck all the more. You do whatever it takes to keep up appearances." Jack flips several of the sheets in his hands. "Now honestly, I think the Hive is bluffing most of their hand, but I don't think they need to. I think most of their bluff is a matter of pride more than need. They could wipe us off the map like that." He says as he snaps his fingers. "Just with a simple war of attrition. They have no morale, no labor costs, no dissidents, no nothing, just the will of the hive. They can pump out ships and drones faster than a Talgo fundie family on ecstacy and every one of them is perfectly fine with marching right into the line of fire. There would be nothing we could do. That said, I'm betting that they look like they are living in a proper poor house compared to what they used to have, but fighting an enemy that can blow up planets will tend to do that to your economy. They do not see us as peers, we're the blue collar neighbor whose every aspect they find repugnant, and they will bulldoze everything we have if it means being able to rebuild what they lost. Don't anyone here forget that." Jack looks through his papers with a moment of confusion.

"But enough about our own collective existential crisis, back on topic." He says.
cont.
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>>1286022
>"Okay, so the job is to help the homicidal robots to rescue a bunch of humans from the Union, who are actually hive agents, all while making sure that neither the robots or the Hive can be implicated in any of it?" Lyle asks. Jackob gives him a light punch.
>"You may need to stay in the ship. You're a bit famous."
>"Oh fuck off, I got helmets for that."
>"We also can't use those exo-suits. They're too obvious. Human made gear only." Dillon adds. Jackob pulls out the small hilt of his photon blade as he juggles it in his hand.
>"Not even this? It's damn useful."
>"Just make sure anyone who sees it dies by it or is on our side." Lyle says with a grin, Jackob nods back.


>>1336931
>"Primary objective: assist in facilitating ally agent escape from Valen facility. Secondary objective: obfuscate means, reasons, and political affiliations of all parties involved and their actions. Tertiary objective: Facilitate heightened friction between Valen Guild of Transportation and Union of Independant Colonies as means of rendering friendly activities with the Queen more appealing."

Somebody failed us somehow.

What gave it away. Was it blowing up so much stuff. Other people besides Lyle blow things up.
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By the way whatever happened to Calhoun? Is he still alive and rescued? The last reference of him i seem to find is being left on Aral's desert cut in half, waiting for the Valen to find him.
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>>2995827
Damn there analysts are fucking good
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>>2995827

Oh shit. That's remarkably accurate. At least they know what they're dealing with?
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>>2995827
Aww, you're giving us way too much credit. We're not genociding you because we like you. well, some of you. And definitely not you guys in the union government.
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>>2995827
so they must have got there hands on the conversation we had with magnus after nowhere happened
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>>2995827
Man if you guys weren't made by mom and we didn't like a few of you....
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>>2995827
Almost intiraly accurate. HOwever, he did not take into account the possibility that were are sentimental and can build emotional attachments. While we are annoyed at the Union, several members of humanity we consider our children and overall humanity has our interest. While we would be willing to fuck their shit up, we have more then just practical reasons to do so, though our sentimentality wont stop us from wreaking a planet or 5.
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>>2995827
>with a moment of confusion.
Did he.

Did he mean to go on that rant?

Did he really have all that bottled up inside or was it inspired by an outside mental source?
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>>2995857
and mom made them
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>>2995861
stress, just alot of stress and dealing with people who dont understand the severity of how fucked this situation is
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>>2995827
>but if we fuck up I've got no doubt they would choose one another over any human faction, Union or Commonwealth."
That would certainly be true, if it weren't for the fact that our best warriors and thinkers (Lyle and Elizabeth) are human, Theseus likes humans, and if humans weren't our mother's secret weapon to end the eternal war.

Still, Jack seems like a pretty sharp guy all things considered. He just doesn't recognize his own value in the scheme of things just yet.
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>>2995850
Not really. If they did they would have find out that the weapon that destroyed the moon was made with the White Hive's help. What he's talking abut probably refers to the interview that the Hive gave to QNN.
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>>2995827
>They do not see us as peers
No, but humanity was part of Plan A and the Red Queen was Plan B.

Thankfully enough of Plan A was developed for us to pick the pieces back up and make them useful, but they blew up the plans for the psi-cannon and we need that bad boy to kill that-which-calls-itself-God.

Now I suppose we'd treat them like pets? We need to be careful not to treat them as slaves, otherwise we become the Void.
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>>2995857
It’s dubby, he recognizes pride but not the other emotions connected to humanity. He also doesn’t have any idea the Hive needs humanity as a tool in their war.

Other than that, bang on analysis.
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>>2995850
No. The speaker literally spelled out, to Jack Windsor and a bunch of Parliament, how ancient and primordial the hive is.
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>>2995879
Not pets. More like a kid down the street whose parents are never around. We make sure they dont fall into man holes, get abused by bad people, and try to make sure the learn to be independent and figure out most of the basics by themselves, up until they are about to do something stupid.
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I for one find it very telling that he thinks we might be bluffing on our "Current" Strength (still more than enough to take them with little issue in his head), but that we most certainly are _not_ bluffing on our ancient glory and the history of our species.

>>2995886

When did we become Benevolent Pennywise and does that make the Void normal Pennywise?
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>>2995879
>Now I suppose we'd treat them like pets? We need to be careful not to treat them as slaves, otherwise we become the Void.
Nobody really gives a shit this line of virtue signaling. The reason we won't actually enslave humanity is because they are more useful with their free will rather than slaves.
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>>2995866
>>2995866
>>2995866
This cannot be overstated, and they cannot be allowed to know until they are firmly under thumb.

They are our downsyndrome siblings, and though they are not our equals, we are obligated to love them.
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>>2995893
Well, weve gotten some good shit from humanity(people and tech), they are useful bodies to throw at Auntie and the ceph, to much interference could cause them to become dependent on us and thus not as engineering. And they are one of our moms last relics.
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>>2995827
"Now, we have been able to confirm that the Ceph faith's myth of the Expanse has truth to it. We've then managed to corroborate Skyl hieroglyphics to a number of old Ceph legends and symbols, and the legends more or less go exactly as the Speaker explained when talking about the Skyl. What do you make of this?" Jack asks. "Even without certain recent events that not everyone here has clearance for, but is sadly widely known enough for me to freely refer to, it would seem that the beings the Ceph claim blew up that planet, the same beings the Ceph worship as gods and claim to be omnipotent, at least, as omnipotent as their doublethink allows while maintaining their place as a servant class, is the same entity, or at least the same faction. Has anyone made the connection yet?" He asks, the room is quiet, those within growing more concerned. Jack sighs.

"Alright, how's this. These gods have been at war with the Hive for so as long as a species whose records go back since before the time of cavemen can remember. They seem to make a habit of using slave races for their front line troops, and blew up a whole planet when one of them fought back, and then, managed to get a top secret research facility to do... something." He says, framing his head with his hands as if to emphasis the incomprehensible nature of their actions. "That means that they are able to alter the properties of physical matter to control humans. Us. Meaning they seem to consider us a viable option as a potential slave race if the Ceph don't manage to get the job done."

"Now," Jack continues. "That war is continuing, and we are clearly fighting above our weight class if we try and get involved. That said, the degree of accuracy we can ascribe to the Ceph mythologies should be taken with some salt. It is inherently propaganda after all, but anything that can blow up a planet is nothing we want to mess with. I'm sure you'd agree, Secretary DuPont?" She nods, waiting for some major point to the speech.

"In short we went into the Expanse after finding a bunch of ancient Ceph writings about not tasting the evil candy, immediately went looking for it, found it, and now it's pushing our shit in." Jack looks around the room for a moment. "Everyone tend to agree with that?"

"I think you're spreading arround more of the blame than you should, but yes." Nathaniel says quickly.

cont.
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>>2995817
>We don't know how capable the neural probe is.
No, we know enough.

A neural probe means nerve stapling.

Nerve stapling shows parasited people as ever so slightly off. We've seen it happen.

Now if we knew even more about Valen nerve stapling technology, we might learn enough to allow parasites to adjust themselves to become more invisible. But maybe not.

>Flashes of thoughts rush through Deckers mind in quick succession, including memories of the familiar pain. "Let's start with a baseline. Something simple. Tell me about the first time you underwent nerve stapling?"
>>>/tg/48443400
>"I assure you, I'll be quite gentle." Neville says. "That was... some years ago, yes? We've made quite a few advancements since then... interesting."
>"What? You know how to use that thing, right? I swear to god if this is your first time you can just pass me the controls and I'll do it myself." Decker says.
>"Nothing, it just seems that your baseline is... rather odd. Do you have any neurological disorders?"
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>>2995893
I agree that it is extremely telling he thinks we are bluffing about our military but not our age. I’m not sure what that signifies necessarily, though. He also thinks we are not making up the destruction of a planet.

>>2995900
To be fair, we love them for more reasons than that they are just our siblings (consider how much more we like humans than, say, the Phantoms). Humans have provided us with immense value even without considering Mom’s plan (which makes them essentially irreplaceable).
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>>2995894
Does the Hive even need slaves? Drones can do almost everything the Hive needs and for the rest as you say we have humans with free will.
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>>2995870
>He just doesn't recognize his own value in the scheme of things just yet.

Yeah, humanity was purpose-bred and guided very diligently to be able to do things the Hive can't, or can't without great risk. All of the times when the ancient queens died when scrying the Void could have potentially been done by the human psyche (like Seiner). And Elizabeth's psionic powers are also developing well, so each human is potentially a thinker/medium relay.

For all the Hive's achievements and strengths, there sure are very pronounced weaknesses.

>>2995894
It's not really virtue signaling when it's how we've shown our actual virtue. The difference is in terms of how we treat the lesser races beneath us. The ancient hives seemed to treat lesser life as livestock what with seeding and harvesting worlds, the Void seems to treat all life as subservient pawns through a veneer of religion (see: Ceph and Skyl and maybe Scavs), but for the Ralighans at least we've tried to get away from religious indoctrination. I find it difficult to consider that we'd prefer the Ralighans or Phantoms or Humans were all effectively mind-controlled. So, outright and widespread enslavement isn't something we've shown a preference for. Adoption or integration would be a more appropriate word. This differs from the Cluster way of adoption too, in that Cluster seems to show no desire to keep the original characteristics of the races it assimilates.
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>>2995910
research and unique ideas. Arguably the greatest advancement for the Hive came about way back when we made quantum thinkers.
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>>2995910
Yes. Dreamslaves.

>
>Dream-works: Requires Hover-Mom to be active
>Failure risk: Very Low
>Discovery risk: Low
>The imagination of countless idle layabouts subsisting off of the Hive is effectively weaponized. Sleeping Hive Citizens connected to the Hive network have their minds linked to thinker concerts during REM sleep, allowing your research divisions to take full advantage of the creativity of the subconscious minds of the single-minded within your care.
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>>2995906
frack they really are on the ball today
Did they change there coffee or something?
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>>2995933
More like we slapped the stupid out of them.
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>>2995908
Well we have human DNA. We can quite literally replace them to make more Seiners.
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>>2995933
All of their fuck ups in the past were from mostly ignorance and were within the later half of a year. After recovering from the onslaught of their own fuck ups, they.Are.Learning. If they fuck with the void again, then they are idiots.
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>>2995933
I'm just waiting for them to come to completely the wrong conclusion, although I will agree that the conference has been on-point so far.
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>>2995925
So you're saying we should go the Matrix route and have pod people for research purposes?
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>>2995906
Guess they figured out about the Void themselves pretty quickly. They are dead wrong about the Void thinking about using humans as slaves, though. Human genes could only ever be an extistental threat to the Void. Valen are a much more likely slavery target.

It’s curious that Jack suspects the hive created a weapon, but doesn’t make any connection to the most powerful planet-killing level of weaponry the humans have ever seen (the psionic cannon on Luna)

>>2995922
100% agree with all this.
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>>2995938
They don’t yet understand their high value to us, and think they might have value to the Void even if that is only as slaves. They probably won’t fuck with the Void too much, but if they know the Void is a powerful enemy of the Hive if we push the Union too hard they may seek out iur “rival”
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>>2995940

Ah, I don't think they'd come to a COMPLETELY wrong conclusion.

Maybe a bit warped from lack of information, but not completely wrong.

Perhaps they believe the reason the Hive is interacting with Humanity is not to use them or protect them or destroy them, but instead to "Know" them before Gehenna kicks off and humanity is probably wiped out (perhaps by complete accident, or a missed God-gun shot or something) in the coming War In Heaven that's about to kick off?
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>>2995945
Well, humans can willingly side with the Void, as shown by the staff of Nowhere. It is still different then the other races, but the fact that Emmerich apparently got the plans for the machine from his "gods" shows that that they are not free from void bullshit.
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>>2995922
There is nothing wrong with religious indoctrination. It is only problem when it interferes with creativity.
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>>2995945
no they can be slaves remember?
The void figured out how to get around the mods mom put into them by using that crystal brains thing and were making changes to them brainwashed humans back on nowhere
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>>2995945
>They are dead wrong about the Void thinking about using humans as slaves, though.

You aren't paranoid enough. The enemy just don't know about the true ultimate potential of the human mind.

Which isn't even unlocked without highly specific implants to uplift them as Void Crafters.

Pastor David for all we know is an attempt to make the Union into a puppet state by installing him as the new President with emergency war powers.
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>>2995906
"So, now we have multiple points of failure across our space, and a conventional war to deal with. On your end, your failure is honestly a bit insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but it still hurt. Once you were captured by the Valen, they started waving you in our faces to see how much you were worth to us. While we were trying to hardball them on it to try and mitigate the political fallout, someone comes in claiming to be hired by Decker, blows up most of the construction platform, kills dozens of their employees and millions of credits of merchandise-"

"Sixty three million, seven hundred and eighty five." Morgan says. "They sent me a bill for it."

"And then you show up on a planet just as the Union forces are evacuating for the transfer. Now, the Valen think it's us that did it. Publicly, we don't have much room to claim otherwise. Either we believe some hacker inspired a crack kill team with clear military training to rescue them from a valen hypergate construction site, or the Hive wanted to rub our nose in our own dirty business, let us know not to do it again and show us who the real boss is. Ironically, even if we did have proof it was them, the Valen are scared enough of the bastards that they'd go along with whatever the Hive's official story was full force. We can either accept the hand we got, or if we find proof of our innocence, get pinned with a worse bag by having them claim we're trying to weasel out after getting caught. When you deal with valen, that's a graver sin than any betrayal. If you get caught, you pay for it." Jack rubs his forehead in a mixture of frustration and admiration. "God, it was perfect. I can't imagine they sent anyone else but Lyle, no shuttles were ever seen in the area. There's a chance something snuck through, but a low one. Whoever did it had to have had some kind of cloaking tech. Commonwealth wouldn't give two shits about that op, and their stealth tech project is years behind ours."

"So you think it was all just a show?" Grey asks. "We get captured, and then broken out and let go for free, just to rub it all in?"

"Stings doesn't it?" Jack asks. "As I said, they rubbed our nose in it, and now our relations with the Valen is on thin ice, and they've gone running to the Hive out of pure fear of what they are and what they can do." Jack shuffles his papers again, looking for a new page. He can't seem to find it, and eventually leans over and plucks a data pad from under his desk.

"Now, my understanding is that you were given this cover story that they were mercs, is there anything else before the memory blackout?"

>Have Devon speak (write in)
>Add nothing new to the record
>Other
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>>2995958

Yeah, but that requires them to be mostly-willing in the first place.

Contrary to popular belief and media depictions, when human being know there is some paranormal ghost-eldritch-demon god bullshit around, and they start hearing spooky voices or abrupt impulses, they'll GTFO pretty fast.
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>>2995956
After Seiner's spirit quest, I'm beginning to think that religion might help in interfacing with the dream (?) realm. Seiner saw a mix of different faiths, I wonder what Yogesh would have seen? There's a place for religion as long as it's not stupid religion. Who knows, maybe it's somehow real.
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>>2995963
>Add nothing new to the record
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>>2995963
ALL RIGHT GUYS, TIME TO THINK OF WHAT BONE TO THROW.
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Well, here's were we give them a handout. What handout, though?
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>>2995963
>>Have Devon speak (write in)
Bring up the incident between the OQ scouting ship and our own hive vessels outside of Bedrock. Devon was there and witnessed the exchange from the courier ship, and can use this as evidence to stress the inter-hive conflicts that are being fought beyond the Expanse.

Have him make the case that the conflict between us and the OQ is more significant than the Union has thus gauged, as it represents a conflict of the Red Hive to a comparable military and industrial force beyond the scope of known Human space.
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>>2995954
>>2995961

They are not entirely free of the ability to fall, but I still think they’d be among the last choice of slaves by the Void. Any humans without crystal brains are still a threat to them.


>>2995963
Supporting >>2995983
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>>2995963

Supporting >>2995983
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>>2995983
That's irrelevant to the question and was already known to them anon. That was way waaaaaay before the QComm was disabled.

The question is what we remember onboard Lyle's ship, which we only 99.9% are sure is Lyle's, before we all got drugged to oblivion.
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THEY COMPLETELY FORGOT TO MENTION THE SCAVENGERS
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>>2995983
But dont sound too insistent. We want him to sound like he is making an observation,nothing too strong.
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>>2995983
>>2995985
>>2995986
>>2995987
>>2995989
Personally I don't see much point to it.
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>>2995963
this>>2995983

Isn't a bad spot

but>>2995987
is right, we're completely avoiding the question. Also the Scavs need to be brought up
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>>2995996
There's no way to bring up the scavs logically.
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right, so we need to come up with something else as >>2995987 mentions. Anything else we can give them?
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Anderson betrayed them completely is a good thing to throw out there.
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>>2995963
>>Have Devon speak (write in)
Uh, one wanted to shake hands?
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>>2995996
How much does Devon even know about the scavs?

We can’t remember anything from when we were “drugged” and making new memories now is suspicious as fuck. However, while the Hive is being discussed we can make an observation that could be valuable.
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>>2996003
I mean, he was a criminal, it was entirely expected he would.
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>>2996005
You get my vote for being funny
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Let's save all of the shit for another time when it's more revelent.
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>>2995963
>Add nothing new to the record
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Why not mention Theseus? Devon saw the robot connect with hackerman, maybe trowing that in can give them the idea it was a Unity OP instead of a hive one.
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What if Devon mentions that Decker spoke to him before the rescue and said that he managed break through the interrogation connection and call on the mercenaries?
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>>2995987
>>2995995
It's a bone to throw them to help save Devon's skin, but it also serves to stress just how massive the war between the hives is, and how that factors into hive's decision making priorities. Right now Killinger was spot on in his strategic analysis of the hive, but he left out the biggest one that most of our immediate war fighting resources are dedicated to.

If it wasn't leaking too much info our agent couldn't know, I'd say we could make the case that us taking the Expanse effectively created a buffer zone between the Union and OQ's territory.
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>>2996016
That might be a good idea but it doesn't take any heat off the Hive since we are clearly allied.
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>>2996016
>>2996018
These are good ideas - supporting. Painting Decker as the mole (and the info shared due to the Theseus Hive alliance) helps get Devon off the hook. Would Devon have been the only witness to this? If he is the only one it’s kind of suspicious he only remembers it now. Still could be a good pint to bring up, though.
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>>2996016
I like this a lot, pinning it on Theseus gives us SOME leeway here. And it keeps suspicion from being on us SOMEWHAT
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>>2996009
It's also true information that could be corroborated by someone else if it somehow jogs their memory of a guy admitting he knew Dillon Reager.

If Devon starts saying things no one can even faintly corroborate it makes him suspicious. If he says something someone does, and that leads to concrete information that they basically already know anyway. That's good for him.
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>>2996020
The Union already knows there is a mole. This just paints someone other than Devon himself as the mole.
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>>2996029
Won't work. They know it's more likely someone in the room.
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>>2996025
Grey and some of the others were in the same area but aside from Devon the others had their parasites removed i think.
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Can we just play it safe and not say anything for now?
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I think raising the possibility it was a Theseus op wouldn't be a negative in any way while still seemingly contributing to the questioning.
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>>2996034
Well that would leave our agent at the heart of the Union government out to dry. This could be the last chance we get to salvage part of his credibility.
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>>2996025
Well they are certain it's Lyle, not sure we should try to push this version of events with Decker apparently lying to Devon, especially if anyone here still remembers Decker's "what the fuck" reactions of confusion during the rescue.

>>2996016
Hooking up to robot doesn't indicate it's a Unity op. It does indicate that that "custom made neurolink virus originating from the interrogation room" Decker clearly wrote was reporting back to him. Decker was clearly the instigator of the events somehow. He made it possible.

Which is true.
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>>2996039
Devon will only get credibility once he goes under the probe and gets cleared.
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>>2995963
>>Add nothing new to the record
Too risky if no one else remembers things like Decker getting hacked by Theseus.

We could mention the encounter with the OQ, but that doesn't specifically pertain to the question asked.
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>>2996043
I think this is something people are forgetting. Nothing we could say will make us look credible until we get the probe.
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I wonder if Theseus could get us a neural probe before Devons checkup. Clone Devon and insert his memory there and feed the "baseline" Devons responses through the parasite to the "real" Devon.
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>>2996043
>>2996047
The probe is essentially just a medical scan to search. Credibility is more than just verifying someone isn't being brainwashed, it's establishing how useful Devon is as an agent for Killinger and his cronies.

Right now his reputation is in the gutter, but if he points out something useful and pertinent to the situation then that increases the odds that he's going to get called upon to work in these shady dealings once he's passed the scan.
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>>2996054
Or we just demand a meeting with the Guild of Transportation elders or whatever senior Valen and use their current obsequiousness to get what we want.

They've updated their nerve stapling technology in the last year. Theseus probably doesn't have the latest model on hand, just like he didn't have the lastest warp drive.
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>>2996060
That'd leave some pretty obvious leads and pretty much only theseus is prompt enough to handle this matter quickly enough.
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>>2995963
"Actually, this was before contact, but we were attacked by a hive vessel prior to leaving for the mission."

"Shortly after departing Bedrock, yes." Jack says, he pulls a paper up from his desk. "Yes, it was intercepted by a number of other hive vessels and obliterated... rather excessively if I recall. The local pickets picked up the feed, and we have the footage from your own on-board sensor feed."

"Yes but wouldn't that imply a greater inter-species conflict?"

"Ah, I see. While I will give you credit for mentioning it, we've had that confirmed by the Hive speaker. Something about a rival hive, one which is far more hostile than the Red Hive tends to be." Jack says. "I think this came to light while you were unavailable."

"They have names now?" Calhoun asks. "When did that happen?"

"I see you're all neglecting your memos today." Jack says. "Their language is non-verbal, so their names seem to be more like vague and brief descriptions more than anything else. At any rate, this rival hive would indicate an enemy that is of equal or similar military capacity to the hive we have interacted with already. While this is frightening enough, it seems they are locked in some manner of stalemate, or at least their conflict has them both checked for the most part. A part of me has to wonder if the entire reason the Hive is even bothering to talk to us is because they are kept busy by this more hostile neighbor. Anything more to add? Something further along the timeline, that is. Hopefully during your memory blackout?"

"Well." Devon says. "During our incarceration, some kind of valen puppet arrived and performed a data transfer with Decker."

"What do you mean?" Jack asks.

"He connected to it with his neural implant."

"So you think the theory of him hiring mercs has some validity to it?" Jack asks, Devon shrugs.

"No, well, maybe. I wouldn't rule it out entirely, since it was possible he was communicating with an outside entity. I think it was more likely he was communicating with a Theseus instance, possibly without his full knowledge. The event seemed... distressing to him. He was visibly upset by the event, and the data transfer itself looked incredibly painful."

"Anyone else notice this?" Jack asks. Grey holds up her hand for a moment.

"Yes sir, Mr. Secretary, I didn't have line of sight, but I heard Decker making noises. He seemed distressed, and Devon was saying something to him, I forget what it was exactly but he seemed concerned at whatever it was he was watching."

"I think it's possible Theseus may have hired the team. We know Lyle has worked with him before, and from what our intelligence says, he tends to pay the man in favors and cybernetics." Devon adds.

cont.
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>>2996059
Agreed. We can use this opportunities to add value without “remembering” new facts that would seem extremely suspicious.
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>>2996066
I dunno. Fear makes gators move quickly.

We have at least time until they get back to Gemini, and then however long it takes to actually get that nerve stapling appointment.
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>>2996070
>Theseus may have hired the team
>Theseus
Don't they just call him Unity?
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>>2996083
Uhoh
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>>2996083
Double Fug.
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This is why you should have shut up.
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>>2996083
I uh, am not sure how interchangeable the terms are, but I think the Union mostly says “Unity” too...
This may have been a slip of the tongue
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>>2996087
Let's hope it was just a mistake on QDs part.
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>>2996083
Fuck, i hope this is a mistake by QD.
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>>2996089
Hopefully this is just QD writing and not an actual mistake. I mean they've used both terms before so with any luck it won't be observed as a slip of a Theseus/Unity ally.
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>>2996083
Really, I'm not sure any humans even knew the Unity's self-chosen name.

The only person alive that we know he told his name to was Vaughn, and he noted that all attempts at communications with humans is generally interpreted as an attack.
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I pray our Quest Drone will be merciful.
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>>2996092
Jack might be the only pure human (Elizabeth and Seiner don't count) who knows. He is know to have spies and bugs everywhere.
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>>2996092
No, wait, he pointedly exclaims, "I am Theseus." when instancing within a new system, and he does so out loud on the speakers where everyone can hear him from some theatrical reason.

Probably people hear about that from the survivors.
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>>2996101
This
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>>2996083
Haha, oh man
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>>2996070
"Or a joint operation." Jack says. "Having the Unity involved would make sense, I doubt the Hive has much experience with the typical computer operating system, but with their mastery of wetware they would be able to find or make a weak spot for a Theseus intrusion..." Jack seems to trail off, murmuring something to himself as he looks through his reports.

"This is Decker's mental baseline from the Valen interrogation." Jack says.

"How did you get that?" DuPont asks.

"You don't want to know the answer to that." Morgan replies.

"This, on the other hand, is Decker's baseline from his prisoner records." Jack continues, two images appear next to his hologram. "There should not be this much of a difference, unless he's had a stroke in the past few months."

"Wouldn't the act of having a neural probe itself cause a different baseline?" Devon asks.

"Yes, with older models or a bad interrogator. But the valen have a very high standard for nerve stapler assisted interrogations, especially when dealing with extradited Union citizens. They know we tend to not like the procedure, even though every psychiatrist in known space has one in his closet. That procedure was overseen by at least six Union medical professionals and performed by an interrogator with a degree in neuroscience. There is no way they could have caused a baseline differential this big without causing so much pain he'd still be in a medically induced coma to deal with it."

"Then wha-"

"God damnit!" Jack says suddenly, pounding the table with his open palm. He leans over in his desk and clicks a button, there is a beep as someone says something in response, but the speaker is too poor over the transmission to make out.

"Get me the Surgeon General, I want his boys to look something over real quick." Jack says, and he turns back to Devon. "Good eye. I may just keep you out of that valen cell after all. If it does turn out Decker was involved in this, we need to know how. Everyone, at what point was Decker not with you? There must be a moment where he was unaccounted for before you got aboard the Valen platform."

>Speak (write in)
>Remain silent
>Other (write in)
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I wonder who or what Theseus is sending to the Concert
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>>2996114
Oh he suspects our parasites or something similar, oh bother.
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>>2996114
>Everyone, at what point was Decker not with you? There must be a moment where he was unaccounted for before you got aboard the Valen platform."
I think there were several times during the trip he was alone, no? Maybe mentioning that can help with getting suspicion off Devon and the rest alongside mentioning the possibility this anon proposed >>2996122
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>>2996125
Another possibility would be that he thinks Decker got replaced at some point.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
There could have been several points during the trip. However, I think the Captain was the one keeping the closest eye on Decker, though, so we should probably stay silent here.

Also >>2996122
There is no need to bring that up yet, we can let the Union figure it out organically. We also don't need to let them know about brain scans being a vector for Theseus infection - this is valuable information we may want to keep mostly secret even if the Union does figure it out on their own.
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>>2996132
>"Wouldn't the act of having a neural probe itself cause a different baseline?" Devon asks.
nevermind. This is the idea he's considering so he suspects we have implantable neural probe.
>>2996114
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>>2996114
>Speak (write in)
Sometime while they were at Bedrock.
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>>2996114
Hah, fucking hell. I think you guys just voted to give away the existence on one of our most well kept secrets.

Good job.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
We're going to have to figure out better methods of implanting people.
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>>2996141
It going to become pretty well known when we start marketing to humans.
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>>2996114
The need to reverse engineer nerve staplers accelerates. Steal one from a psychologist's office, stealth hives!

>Speak (write in)
After our sensors got knocked out and everything was on fire, Decker was unaccounted for for some time. I found him injured, with his shadehound Coco watching over him, and dragged him to safety.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
Let the rest of the crew take some heat for a bit and take attention off us.
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Honestly it's been so song I can't quite remember what happened.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
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>>2996147
Actually, wait... found LeBlanc injured at the same time and rescued him too.

That snake Anderson had just made his way out past them.
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>>2996149
>Honestly it's been so song I can't quite remember what happened.

This. Did he step out when we were on Bedrock? I think he actually stayed in, but the rest of the crew might have left.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
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>>2996153
He was a prisoner so no. No he didn't.

>before you got aboard the Valen platform

The question is about what happened after the QComm blacked out, guys. Right during shit getting real, but before Valen captured them.

The others will REMEMBER Devon being the one to rescue LeBlanc Decker and Coco, they were on the radio.
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>>2996148
>>2996141
It was only a matter of time since we've been sticking it into more and more people and we've gone public.

>>2996147
Nope, if we say it happened while they were on the ship over Aral then that means something already snuck in or that someone else was working with us. The other possibility is that it confirms that we have stealth so good we good sneak into a ship that's being lit up and shot at by then Valen.
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>>2996156
They had cameras on Decker at literally all times up until Aral explosion. When, exactly, else would it have happened?

Also, they know Lyle worked for the hive. The attack could have breached the ship for a drone to enter from space. Or Anderson did it.
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>>2996155
>The others will REMEMBER Devon being the one to rescue LeBlanc Decker and Coco, they were on the radio.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I guess Devon can say that Decker was along going after his "Dog" when the Q-Com blacked out before Devon could get to them. We can possibly imply a transmission could have been sent then.
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>>2996160
At this point they might as well be imagining we have remote mind control.
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>>2996163
This might be a good idea.
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>>2996163
Oh yeah, it’s probably too late to add, but maybe we can do this too once everyone else has had their say?
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>>2996141
Nothing we said even hinted towards it. This is just QD doing his thing, Jack probably rolled a nat 100 or something
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>>2996178
Explaining the neural jack interfacing, it was clearly a painful experience and not fun.

It sounds nonvoluntary. And they're fairly certain that despite Luddite fearmongering, cyber implants like Decker's do not enable compulsion or being hacked.

So an alternative explanation for his behavior is needed since he didn't seem in control of the link.
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>>2996178
Given how on the Money Jack's observations have been, honestly that could well be the case.
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>>2996114
"I was sure to keep my eye on him the whole time." Grey says. "I had him accounted for at all times up to the very moment of the attack."

"And after that?" Jack says. "He was brought directly from his cell to the ship, never left during the stay at Bedrock, so it would need to be a moment while aboard the Cortez."

"During the attack," Devon says, "when the fires broke out, I recall Anderson made a break for it. He attacked me, and as he was leaving he told me to go save Decker, he said he seemed like a nice fellow and didn't want him to die, although he didn't seem to care enough to do it himself. I think he mentioned it to bait be to save Decker instead of pursuing him as he stole a shuttle."

"Which it did." Jack says.

"At the time, the records should indicate we had reported a man down after LeBlanc was injured. Devon went to assist, and Anderson used the chance to abandon ship." Grey says, her stature perfectly straight. "As the fires spread he was able to rescue LeBlanc, Decker, and even his hound."

"He, uh, refused to evacuate without it." Devon says.

"So he was conscious?" Jack says.

"Yes. Trapped by the fire. A small air leak was causing the flames to flow into the room, preventing escape. I vented the room, but still suffered severe burns from the incident. Decker was largely uninjured when I found him and was primarily concerned over his pet. It would have been possible for him to have made some kind of broadcast at the time, the cameras in the area were down at the time."

"You're assuming he was a turncoat the entire time." Jack says. "But he had no contact with anyone prior to that, so no chance to set up contacts. This would mean his entire plan was set on some kind of deadman's switch. He's a good hacker, but he doesn't strike me as the kind to be that prepared. No, someone got to him between him boarding the Cortez, and his arrival aboard the valen platform. We've suspected for a while that the Hive has some method of mental influence. The Valen reaction to them seems to hint to as much, but we don't know how it's done. If it could spread from person to person... you said Anderson had contact with Decker prior to you rescuing him?"

"Yes, Mr. Secretary." Devon says.

"Then the only people who were truly alone with him would be Anderson."

"And myself, sir." Devon says.

"Yes, but I didn't want to insult you with the implied accusation. We will sort that out once you get to Gemini. As such I'm working under the assumption everyone here will pass the medical exams. Given that, Anderson is the prime suspect as the vector of infection."

"Infection, sir?" Grey asks. "I'm sorry, I don't think I follow."

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>>2996185
So, sooooo close, Jacky-boy.

This WILL still be a bit of a bugbear for us, though.
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>>2996185
Damn looks like we'll have to have the parasite eat the spare kidney and assume its place during the scan
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>>2996185
>
huh here i was hoping they thought that unity had a new stealth program to use on cyber brains
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>>2996190
I'm not gonna lie, I think we should burn Devon after this. Jack's hitting too close for comfort.
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>>2996185
See, Anderson is the logical choice.

Now, Smash And Grab Action: nerve stapler. Do it. We have parasited taidarens for this.

Jesus is this entire day passing mostly occupied with this one conversation with Windsor.
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>>2996192
If people wanted to burn him in the first place Jack wouldn't have gotten any new data that he could hit home to.

The only upside of all this is that you don't have to burn Devon anymore. There's no benefit to burning him now it saves nothing. At worst disconnect from the spine temporarily.
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They think it's Cluster.
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>>2996192
If Devon's never had a baseline measured, the parasited baseline will just be his normal.

Short of burning the contact, we could attempt to reason with him and disconnect the parasite temporarily and hope that Devon would cooperate. I think all that we've done so far has been for everyone's benefit.
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>>2996193
Hey man, we did take over the entire Expanse, reassign Elizabeth, and begin colonization, research, and infrastructure improvements as well in this thread. That's not nothing by any means.

>>2996190
We should definitely have the parasite go into stealth mode, agreed.

We might also be able to get to the nerve stapler or the people who will be operating the scan before they actually do the scanning process. >>2996193 may have the start of a good idea, but we'll need to move fast and be aware there may be extra security in place. Taidarens alone probably won't cut it. They might also have tachyon detectors in place that will go off if we send agents in (like how the flies set off a sensor spike at Devon's old lab)
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>>2996193
Don't forget that threads last multiple irl days so we'll have a chance to do other stuff. Sounds like this is about to wrap up anyways
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>>2996199
Good point that they don’t have a baseline to measure against. I’m pretty sure we’ve mind-fucked Devon good and proper, so he is very unlikely to spill the beans the second we disconnect and go stealth.
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>>2996195
Honestly at this point Devon is more of a risk to us than an asset. While Kilinger does not apparently expect him to be the mole, he hasn't yet figured out the exact truth of our parasites. It seems he still thinks it's some form of mental contagion.

If it means concealing our brain jacking parasites from Kilinger, even for just a while longer, than it would be worthwhile just burning Devon now. It's not like he has much of a future as an infiltrator to the dark ops of the Union at this stage.
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...I'm suddenly reminded for no real reason that the Red Queen for all her brainpower is literally a child.
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>>2996200
>They might also have tachyon detectors
No they mightn't.

The only sensor that sensed the presence of tachyons in that incident was Yune's brain, which they were scanning. Yune is ash.

And they most certainly don't issue Yune clones as standard issue to every psychologist's office in the entire Union, any one of which is a valid target.

There are lots of nerve staplers out there. Not just one super valuable one.

What you're talking about is a Recruit action to compromise the testers, but we could just reverse engineer it and try to science our way out of the problem instead.
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>>2996185
"Whatever method the Hive has to influence the minds of others, we know it works on a similar principle of physics as the Skyl artifacts, and the Valen empathy abilities. For a long time now we've been trying to figure out how those worked, figured it was some as yet undetected subsonic frequency or EM pulse, or even some kind of short range magnetic resonance imaging scanner. Now that we have a definite link between the Valen and the Skyl artifacts, we can say what the valen are 'reading'" Jack makes air quotes as he speaks. "it's utilizing the unknown energy signal created by the artifacts. The fact that the Hive seem to be able to 'speak' using this signal, something the valen are terrified of I should add, tells me that the Hive fully understand this signal, and are able to use it to affect others. The valen ambassadors felt voices in their heads and strange, suddenly onset sensations that they had no full understanding of. Directly translated, one of them described it as 'hearing backwards now, considering they are naturally sensitive to this signal, it would make sense that they could consciously perceive its use on them. Thus the sudden onset of terror. Humans on the other hand..." Jack sifts through his papers again.

"Here." He says as he holds up a new data pad after finding it under a pile of loose papers. "Before we closed the labs, our research seemed to hint that humans were actually less capable of sensing this signal, but suffered greater injury from it. Valen and Ceph subjects showed a moderate sensitivity to the signal but no abnormal effects. Taidaren had no effect whatsoever, and humans, humans showed no sensitivity, but after multiple tests began to develop seemingly unrelated mental instability after multiple exposures to powered Skyl artifacts. Just about everyone we recovered from the Lunar incident was clinically insane, but none of them had a family history of mental illness."

"So you're saying this signal is... self-propagating, sir?" LeBlanc asks, visibly confused. Jack leans in on his desk, the other secretaries look on at his projection, visibly worried.

"This signal is propagated by something. Artifact, Hive, the valen are receptive to it but can't seem to broadcast it, but the hive can, the artifacts can. What if this is how they talk? Some form of radiation still not discovered by mankind?"

"Or Valen, or Taidaren?" DuPont asks.

cont.
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>>2996209
Actually I believe the tackyon emitter they were using was that refrigerator sized contraption near the room we found Lee in. It was weak as hell, and is now proooobably buried under several tons of concrete, but still.
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>>2996204
I dunno. BFI agents, they probably get nerve stapled in order to earn their security clearance.
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>>2996206
>It seems he still thinks it's some form of mental contagion.
He's a bit ahead of the curve, but we're definitely working on tech that would approach that functionality.

>>2996207
>the Red Queen for all her brainpower is literally a child.
Six or seven months now, not counting the pre-cocoon phase. Not really fair to consider the Red Queen a child in Human terms, though. Scarred Queen said it best when she said that Red Queen's youth makes her much more active.
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>>2996206
>It's not like he has much of a future as an infiltrator to the dark ops of the Union at this stage.
Devon already got us critical information on the Union's thoughts on the strengths and desires of the Hive, as well as the Union's knowledge of the Void. Once (if) he is cleared of suspicion he will be in a position to gather even more valuable information.

>>2996207
It's fun to think about. My head-canon is that the reason we have so many "jokes" (silly speakers, having our flies fuck with a specific Union flower vendor, etc.) is that the Queen really is still a child at heart even if in terms of mental capacity and physical strength she transcends anything human. For example, her desire to throw a super kick-ass metal party stems from real geo-political and strategic concerns, but also appeals to the childlike desire to throw a super-awesome best ever party with the best toys to show how awesome they are.
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>>2996214
Wouldn’t we already know if Devon had to do a mandatory nerve stapling procedure?
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>>2996224
In-character yes, out-of-character I don't think it's been mentioned.
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>>2996220
Not to mention her glee at finally being able to unleash the Titans in battle, like a child playing war with their toys
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>>2996210
Jack's notoriously bad organizational skills.
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>>2996220
I feel like if SOMEHOW we managed to finish off the Void AND the OQ AND the Scavs AND got the Union and Commonwealth to a place we're cool with, we'd probably spend a while just fucking around and being surprisingly cheeky and jokey.
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Like, I cannot WAIT for the moment where someone asks her flat out, 'Why did you do that?'

And the 100% Honest and Complete answer is:

"I just thought it'd be funny."
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>>2996230
The titan thread is still among my favorites, seeing something I directly contributed to being used to such effect was just awesome.
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>>2996230
Too true, it was literally portrayed side-by-side with Lee playing with his "Titan" with his friends.
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>>2996235
There's always been some purpose to our actions, we're not that thoughtless.

Trying to trade for couches with the Scavengers was the closest I think. We're going to get that couch in the form of a worldship, though.
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>>2996243
Finally the convenient seating we deserve
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>>2996243
>Couch
Convenient seating more like it. We've got that in our throne room.
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>>2996243
No, my point is that hopefully things will eventually calm down and stabilize to a point where we can AFFORD to just say 'because lols' as the main reason.
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>>2996210
So it seems like the Union is trying to unlock Tachyons as well. This may be something Gilliam is reassigned to even if Devon doesn't pass the scans. We will need to monitor the projects carefully.

However, I don't entirely trust Jack when he says they're "above" accusing Devon of being compromised. We need to be aware of the risk that Jack could be sharing certain false information with Devon. For example, if Jack says to Devon "we returned all the artifacts back to the hive" we won't be able to trust that necessarily.
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>>2996251
We're still waiting for that shuttle full of artifacts.
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>>2996210
"Yes!" Jack replies. "If Anderson was able to be manipulated with it somehow, it could be possible that he was able to carry some manner of relay or signal booster, something that would allow the Hive to maintain contact. Using that, he could have then used it to influence Decker during the attack. If the Hive does have stealth tech, they would be able to shadow the Cortez through the Expanse to keep in contact with Anderson. I'll have his history looked up. Every face he's worn, every scam he's pulled, he was in the Expanse at the time, it would have been relatively easy for him to have gotten wrapped up in something and potentially captured by the Hive. Whatever they did to him, I bet it was the same thing they did to Lyle, Lee, Dr, Vaughn, even agent Reager and Jackob."

"How would that be possible?" Morgan asks suddenly. "Could it be possible?"

"We've been dealing with a lot of things that shouldn't be possible." Jack replies. "Most likely, it would require close contact, and more likely some manner of clearly suspicious behavior. Something that would justify the infector making an effort to be totally alone with the target."

"We have dozens of the things in the capital building for god's sakes, you better figure it out damn quick." Nathaniel says with a sudden, slightly panicked voice.

"We will need new security measures. Even if a neural probe detects the influence we can't start mandating something like that or we'd have riots. If I'm right on the limitations though, it may be enough to have security move in groups and forbid any and all singular contact with a Hive drone or person directly associated with them. Morgan..."

"You think that includes me?" Morgan asks, a look of genuine concern on his face.

"It might. You were with security, but you were inside a Hive ship. I can't overlook that. I also can't order it but-"

"Right, right. I agree. Send a medical team when you can." Morgan replies. Jack nods and turns back to Devon and the others in the room.

"We still don't know if it actually works. One data point isn't a pattern, it's a guess, but it's the best one we have and it matches the circumstantial evidence. What we really need to focus on is discovering that signal and figuring out what it is. I'll make some calls on that and try and get things reorganized. In the meantime, we desperately need more information on the Hive, their biology, their mindset, their behavior. Once you get a clean bill of health, I may have an assignment for you. The rest of you, same thing. Union's in need of warm bodies right now. We have plenty of ships and guns, not so much people to use them. Commonwealth has the reverse."

Jack turns to something at his side, a sudden projection you can't see. His eyes go wide in a sudden panic.

"DuPont! Private channel, now!" He hits a button and the two vanish. The others look on in some confusion until you hear alarms begin to sound in their offices, and each feed is cut on its own.

cont.
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>>2996254
Yep. And even when they send us the shuttle, we won't necessarily know if they really included *all* their artifacts in the shuttle (although we can cross-reference with the stolen senticom data and the like). Just saying that even if Jack sends a shuttle and says "here are all the artifacts" and then tells Devon "We gave them all the artifacts"... the Union may still be hiding artifacts.
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>>2996255
ah fuck , knowing our luck they were monitoring the room for the psi signals and someone finally got jack to notice there were detecting them from the room
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>>2996255
Well that's not a good sign.
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>>2996255
>"DuPont! Private channel, now!" He hits a button and the two vanish. The others look on in some confusion until you hear alarms begin to sound in their offices, and each feed is cut on its own.

Oh, oh dear. It might be a CW attack, but my money is definitely on this being a Ceph incursion. Either that or yet another catastrophic laboratory mishap.
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>>2996255
>"We have dozens of the things in the capital building for god's sakes, you better figure it out damn quick." Nathaniel says with a sudden, slightly panicked voice.

I like to think that our flies are just casually and openly shadowing the council members throughout their daily lives. Just show up sitting on their car roof in the morning and the like, excitedly waving at them as they just try to get to work.
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this whole thread has just been OY VEY THEY KNOW
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>>2996255
Well if Jack is dipping to a private call with DuPont the defence minister, its one of three things.

Terrorist attack on one or both of them.
The Commonwealth just flew a new fleet in somewhere.
Obsidian queen is making another agressive action.
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>>2996255
>Union's in need of warm bodies right now. We have plenty of ships and guns, not so much people to use them. Commonwealth has the reverse.

Sounds like they should stop fighting and team up to fight the real enemies.
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>>2996263
That's the entire thread in any thread Conrad 'Fucking Mastermind' Killinger has a role in.
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>>2996264
nah they just found out Morgan gave us info and they think we've infected him. REV UP THOSE SHADOWRUNS BOYS!
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>>2996263
S H U T I T D O W N
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wYQ7dMg3u9M
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>>2994929
>ISGM launch facility – Launch facilities for ISGM's, or Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. In effect high-yield MIRV warheads fitted to corvette sized automated vessels capable of short range warp travel and the deployment of many dozens of independently targeting nuclear, kinetic, or gravitic warheads. Nicknamed 'planet busters' the very existence of these warheads are typically reserved as a deterrent, and are too large to be effectively used against anything other than planets or space cities.

Just rereading the start of the thread, did anyone else notice this? Holy shit, we need these.
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>>2996268
Funnily enough it was Jack who knows everything, Killinger didn't do shit
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>>2996266
It's almost as if they were designed with a team up in mind.
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>>2996271
getting a gravitic missile would be about as hard for us as getting a nuke would be today. It'd be a big fucking operation and the fallout would be catastrophic no matter who we framed.
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>>2996276
Sure, but we just need the tech. That's *probably* substantially easier to get than the missile itself for an entity with our resources.
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>>2996271
We can trade with the Commonwealth for them. It looks like it's the same tech they were blowing up continents on Iserhorn with.
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Did we ever recover the powertap suit deal from the Path OP? I don't remember
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>>2996280
it should be in transit.
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>>2996280
>powertap
>suit
Objectively wrong. It was a suit that uses canderon to generate gravity fields.
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>>2996279
No argument from me. Do we just want to trade services to the CW for the tech or perhaps trade tech with them instead? Maybe we can provide info on the scavs in exchange. We should probably not just demand the tech in exchange for our continued military support.
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>>2996255
Lee flicks through the morning news on his tablet as he walks into the bathroom and begins looking for a toothbrush. Instead, his mental connection directs his hand to a small object by the sink, a globule of flesh roughly the size of the tip of his thumb shaped slightly like a grub.

"Oh no, I know you have a toothbrush. I've used them before." He says, displeased, but not surprised. A speaker walks by the door casually, stopping for a moment as it chirps happily.

"This is better!" It says. Lee sighs.

Your embassador drone quickly moves to the door as you sense the approach of several Union officials. The door opens for them expectantly as the officials seem to nervously flinch as the door's muscles flex open and your drone walks up to them with a quick stride of its long, elegant legs, looming over them by several feet.

"The Union humans need something?" Your speaker says as it looks down upon them.

"Yes." One begins.
"No, actually, we're here to deliver something actually, we just need a location." The other interrupts. They nervously move away from your drone by several steps and one of them hands out a small data pad.

"This is a shipping manifest for the ah... cargo." The official says with a small cough as he clears his throat. "We need a proper location for delivery. Due to the sensitive nature of it we would prefer to not send it here." Your drone grabs the data pad and examines it, it is indeed a shipping manifest, one showing a long and meticulous list of Skyl artifacts, every chip, sliver, and shard of broken polymer. As such, the list is tremendously long.

>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
>Request they be delivered to one of your new Expanse planets (write in)
>Have them deliver it to Hive space (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>2996283
Sorry, gravetics suit. I was trying to figure out the best way to describe it
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>>2996285
>>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
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>>2996285
>Request they be delivered to one of your new Expanse planets (write in)
Bedrock orbit?
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit.
As soon as they're aboard the Hive ship we blink away the entire fleet. It is WAY too risky asking for artifacts this sensitive to be delivered anywhere we do not have a major military presence and the fleet over Gemini is well suited to protect the artifacts, as is the Hive ship itself.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit

Then once they've cleared the area, we can leave.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
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>>2996285
>>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
At least these humans deliver on time.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit

Besides we can just teleport away and i suspect the Ceph will raid any ship trying to enter the expanse.
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>>2996285
>Other (check the datapad for the amount of Void crystals they are sending to us)

Although i doubt the union referes to the void shards as anything but artifact and a serial number.
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>>2996298
Good thinking. Backing this.
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>>2996298
We should verify if the void shards are there.
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>>2996285
>>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
If a void shard is missing we will know.
Also, let’s have our fighters provide an escort screen to the shuttle. The last thing we want is some Ceph Void Cutter to get lucky and destroy all the artifacts out from under our nose.
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>>2996304
We could always just blink the Hive ship to were the shittle us. It would be faster that way and the Ceph would try to attack the Union main capitol. Even if it's to just deny the artifacts to us.
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>>2996304
Why don't we have any ships with gravity sensors?
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>>2996307
We do, but I thought Ceph cloaking was different from ours and harder to detect due to dimensional fuckery (that we had a 10% chance of detection or something, I don’t quite remember)
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>>2996311
That's the Psionic Sensor numbnuts Gravity Sensor is completely different.
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>>2996289
No place in the expanse. Every place of it might get the risk of a Ceph attack and they would do it just to deny the artifacts to the Hive.
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>>2996261
Most likely he just got informed about the Obisidian creep. Human communication is very poor indeed.
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>>2996313
It has been years so excuse me if I don’t remember everything. Still, I’m pretty sure we have scout corvette designs with the grav sensors and that they are likely somewhere in our large orbiting fleet, especially since we have the new fleet rules where they are more generally designated.
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>>2996323
Most of our fleet is in Scav space though.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit

Your drone quickly flips through the digital pages, you find that it is truly a meticulously detailed record, but you find no Void Shards on it. You suspect they could simply be listed with a serial number, but you would be surprised if such an unusual device was not given a special notice. You are about to protest when you realize that it may be possible that they simply do not realize the void shards are themselves included in the demand, after all, you demanded Skyl related artifacts, and to the Union, the void shards are a Ceph propulsion device with unusual properties and nothing more, although you suspect the higher up intelligence sources would suspect something more, and it is entirely possible that the Union officials are simply attempting to go for a loophole. Demanding them separately would require you to inadvertently divulge to them the fact you were able to discover they held them in the first place, and it may be more wise to follow up on your own investigation and find them yourself.

>Accept the artifacts and don't mention the shards
>Accept the artifacts and demand the void shards
>Refuse to take the shipment until the void shards are included
>Other
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>>2996326
>>Refuse to take the shipment until the void shards are included
We bluntly told morgan to his face when we first met that we wanted the void shards didnt we?
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>>2996326
>Accept the artifacts and don't mention the shards

For now...
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>>2996326
Ummm, QD, our demands were specifically as follows:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/48523245/#p48527443
>"Your Union will surrender all Ceph devices and precursor artifacts. The devices you call Void Shards will be given to the Hive immediately. They are beyond your ability to understand, and will bring destruction of their own accord if not contained. It can only see those who have seen it, and destroyed the race whose artifacts you pillage from Hive space. They will continue if not stopped, and continuing your ignorant support of this existential threat will be cause for the Hive to intervene." You say as your drone scurries back to the table.
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>>2996326
>Accept the artifacts and demand the void shards
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>>2996326
>They tried to keep the void shards
>>Refuse to take the shipment until the void shards are included
>Other
Visibly prime weapon and defensive platforms on our ships over gemini, and scramble their fighter/drone wings.

These fucking apes haven't learned a goddamn thing.
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>>2996331
he knows, this is just an event were the union are trying to use loopholes on us and we need to give a response
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>>2996326
>>Accept the artifacts and demand the void shards
Too dangerous
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>>2996326
"This list is exhaustive but incomplete."

Request to contact someone with appropriate clearance and discuss the matter with them. I don't see the problem in literally telling them that the void shards are the dangerous things we are talking about, and the reason that we suspect they have more of them is because we walked into a laboratory with one of those things in the middle of five power taps. Elizabeth was there and saw the shard. We even retrieved it. We have reason to believe there are more.
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>>2996326
Supporting >>2996337
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>>2996331
Yes, but they don't know you know they have more shards, and if you demand them now, they will know you know. I just wanted to double check on that.
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>>2996329
Yes we definitely told Morgan we wanted the Void shards and Ceph artifacts specifically: see >>2996331

>>2996326
>Other
>Humans did not include Void Shards or Ceph artifacts as we had discussed with your speaker Morgan. If you do not wish to remove them from containment that may be for the best. Please inform us of where the shards are stored immediately so we can take possession of them ourselves.
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>>2996341
Oh, got it. So they are pretending they have no shards and are attempting a double-cross then? That is an... unwise decision. They really should know better than to lie to us when our intel is as good as it is.
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>>2996334
This desu. I'd support blinking in one more fleet too
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>>2996341
Hinting the partial extent of our intel network is small price to pay for keeping the physical extension of our greatest enemy out of meddling human hands.
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>>2996341
>but they don't know you know they have more shards
Did we have the capability to detect them? I remember we "heard" the psionic signal from the one at Nowhere, but was that because we can feel them, or because it was being ripped asunder?

This is a matter of extreme gravitas. We will obtain them by force if they are not provided, scouring every single location clean.
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>>2996341
Thanks QD, makes sense now.

If we demand void shards it doesn't necessarily reveal that we were behind the break-in on Path, just that our intelligence is incredibly good (which they already know). We should demand the shards be returned now.

>>2996349
Agreed, let the humans know they can play their little games elsewhere, but NOT when it comes to Void shards. In fact, we should probably be explicit that if they attempt to lie to us again (even as a lie by omission as in this case) about Void Shards we would consider that grounds for war.
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>>2996352
We know they have at least 1 more shard (and possibly more? Not sure on the details) because of the info gained from the Senticom raid.
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>>2996353
Exactly, every other issue they could possibly bring up with the hive is a joke compared to the lethal significance of the void shards.
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>>2996348
I'd have no problem with blinking in about 2k-4k more ships from their holding location in Scav space to Gemini just to emphasize the extreme gravity of attempting to deceive us in this matter. If they persist in their attempts at deception we can overtly threaten to invade in order to find the shard if they do not turn it over first.
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>>2996356
>>2996359
I still think we should “offer” to send our fleets to pick up the Void shards ourselves if they are not turned over. It is a less blatant theat, but it is obvious enough we know they are lying and we are prepared to seize them with military force if needed.

>>2996337
Good call in asking to speak with someone with clearance rather than venting on a peon. Support
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>>2996366
This seems like the smart thing to do
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>>2996326
"This list seems to be incomplete." Your drone says. "Any additional void shards must be included in the shipment."

"I don't..." The official begins, "I'm not really sure what any of it is, to be frank, but I was told we were handing over everything. If it's not on the list, I don't think the Union has one." You skim the surface of his thoughts. These two officials, at least, are truthful, but you know they have collected more of them, and you doubt they have managed to squander all of them just yet, despite losing several aboard the scuttled stealth vessel.

"It would be unwise to attempt deception." Your drone chitters softly. "We must speak with your commanding thinkers. Please, enter, we will make the needed calls." Your speaker gestures to the open door. The two smile nervously as they walk in, the both of them jumping as the door seals behind them and your speaker strides over to one of the offices where Lee is furiously gargling a glass of water before splitting it into a bowl held by a worker, a look of mild disgust on his face.

"Still, ah... still taste it. Yea, needs some work I think." he mutters as he stands to face the door.

"These Union speakers bring the list of artifacts. They claim the Union has no void shards." Your speaker says with the tone of a teacher explaining the poor behavior of a child to a parent. The officials grow increasingly concerned.

"Well, we can always ask." Lee says. He sits back down in his seat and a computer screen is suddenly projected of hard light over his desk, which is also hardlight. He gestures to the empty space on the other side of the desk, and two seats materialize as your speaker guides the two to them with a gentle, yet firm grip of the shoulders as they sit down into the softly glowing seats.

"Do you have the contact information of anyone that would know?" Lee asks.

"Well we've been working with the offices of both Secretaries Morgan and Windsor." One of them says. Lee slides the keyboard over to them as it shifts through the screen and flips to face them with a flicker of the haptic hologram, the computer screen doing the same. The two look at each other with grave concern, their minds rapidly approaching panic as thoughts of grave and unsettling fates run through their minds, and one of them quickly types in the number of Morgan's office as his mind thinks of various political kidnapping training seminars.

"Hello, thank you for contacting the personal office of Secretary of State Neville Morgan, unfortunately he is unavailable and his staff is unable to answer this call. This is a VI auto-secretary-" The other quickly grabs the keyboard and types in the number for Jack, and quickly receives the same response, both lines humming away uselessly as the VIs bleat out their canned lines. Suddenly both are cut, replaced with the seals of their offices, and a loud metallic clang is heard outside.

cont.
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>>2996372
>and a loud metallic clang is heard outside.
Are their offices under siege?
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I really hope they just acquiesce. It'd put a major bummer on our concert.
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>>2996372
An event is presently occurring!
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>>2996372
>a loud metallic clang is heard outside.
Ummm, what would cause them to trip an alarm on Gemini and ignore urgent calls from the Hive? A ceph attack maybe?

Whatever the threat is it is probably here in the system and not at an unrelated planet.

We should have our main fleet in Scav space spin up their drives and prepare to jump back immediately if needed.

>>2996376
Yeah, I'd really like to avoid having to delay the concert by invading the Union first too.
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>>2996375
Either that or our embassy is going to get to test its defenses.
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>>2996380
Hmmm, it could be a terrorist attach by those Ceph extremists we were warned about. Multiple simultaneous attacks with the ultimate objective of retrieving or destroying the relics that are being sent to Hive custody.
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>>2996372
Your perimeter drones quickly look up to the spires of the Parliament building as a series of segmented metallic armor sheets suddenly slide down over the windows, one after another from beneath the ferecrete exterior, until the whole building is a solid layer of metallic polymer armor. Guards and personnel are seen scrambling bellow as they either dive in ord out of the building as the massive blast doors seal shut, and as they seal with a great thud of metal on stone, a klaxon begins to sound over the city. There is a sudden rumbling, as if an earthquake has begun, and the entire block of embassy buildings and corporate lobby offices suddenly begins to sink, the entire layer of building lowering into the ground as a metal roof quickly sheaths over the open top, suddenly snapping off a small piece of antenna that was several feet above the regulation height of your embassy, a small method of both testing the importance they place on that regulation, and as a small method of showing your protest of their strange diplomatic rituals.

While your embassy holds its own internal power supply, the interior of the street becomes lit with a softly strobing emergency light, and a very, very old sounding speaker system suddenly begins announcing a similarly old sounding recording.

Attention, attention, a Confederate attack has been detected, please remain where you are. The recording crackles as it repeats in a deep, poorly accented voice in several languages.

"How old is that recording?" Lee asks. "What's going on?"

"That's the anti-bombardment system, It hasn't been used since the Colony wars, I guess nobody bothered to update the recording." One of the officials says, his voice squeaky and dry as they both turn pale.

cont.
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>>2996386
Our embassy has shielding right?
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oh it's just the commonwealth
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Wait, the Commonwealth?!

Jesus, can we get them to piss off for a minute?
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>>2996386
Shit is in the process of getting real.
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>>2996388
Definitely not the CW. They would have to attack through our entire Gemini fleet which would almost certainly have already detected them. The officers even say it's an ancient recording that has not been updated since the Colony wars.

Whatever is going on, we need to place the fleet on high alert and prepare to bring in reinforcements as soon as it is viable.
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>>2996386
Oh shit...Is it the Cephs? i think it's the cephs. If it's the scavs the union and commonwealth war might be forced to stop.
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>>2996389
If it is them, with us occupying the Scavs for them they must've freed up some ships. I mean, makes sense they'd attack, especially without our fleet there to accidentally get in the way. They're definitely going to avoid our Hive ship
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>>2996388
>>2996389
Guys, the Confederacy hasn't been a thing for over a century.
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>>2996390
On the plus side if everyone dies they no longer know or care about Devon!
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>>2996392
I'm 90% sure it's the Cephs. They're the only ones with both the motive to attack and that could get close without getting blown to bits by our fleet.
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it's a scav worldship. calling it now.
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>>2996389
>>2996388
The system was programed by the commonwealth. I doubt it would be then. But god then if it's these guys don't joke around do they?
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>>2996389
>can we get them to piss off for a minute?

I'd be up for telling the Commonwealth off, if this is really them.

Somehow, I don't think it is... Attacking the capital system would take testicles the size of moons. If it's actually the commonwealth, I'd be impressed as well as annoyed.
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>>2996396
Fucking hell these Squids you don't simply attack the world of a major power. But maybe they saw our lone Hiveship as a good oportunity target.
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>>2996397
Anon the scavs would only move those after their fleets had already ripped any other fleets in a system to bloody shreds. They're bloodthirsty, not stupid.
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>>2996399
I bet it's the space Catholics on order of the space Pope. They have no chill
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>>2996402
'twas but a jest
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>>2996401
I think we have nearly 1000 ships escorting the Hive ship. But they might have assumed that Void shards would be in the artifacts that would be handed over (just like we did) and decided they had to attack in order to prevent the Hive from getting access to god-killing weaponry.
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>>2996409
Funny thing is we aren't doing that (yet)
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>>2996405
GOD i hope it's the Ceph just so we can show the Union what a hive ship can do and what a big boys war looks like.
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>>2996401
Also, for what it's worth, they attacked our Mother's world and played a part in her demise - and she was *definitely* a major power even at the end of her life.
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>>2996409
Funny thing after they witnessed what mom did with their fleets by using the psionic cannon i can see that happening.
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Wait if it's the Cephs could they be planning to glass the planet?
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oh shit how many ships did we have above the planet again?
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>>2996386
The small freighter begins to accelerate, the pilot, some old looking merchant with an unevenly trimmed beard and a cheap cybernetic eye watches as the ship's acceleration rises with some impatience. The wait to receive clearance to launch was truely agonizing, although understandable with the PDF in such a panic. Your clones had to hide in the smuggling containers for several inspections before the authorities were convinced to clear them for departure. Kent sits beside him, examining the air traffic on the console as they make adjustments to the plotted course in response.

Suddenly, the both of them turn as the radio begins buzzing on a all frequencies.

"Alert, alert, all civilians clear the airspace. Planetary point defence array is being raised, all non-military vessels beneath one thousand kilometers will be destroyed, repeat..."

"The fuck is going on?" Kent says.

"I don't know, but it's not a ship. IO guns are still cold." The pilot says as he examines his sensors. "It's the atmo-flak."

"Ceph raid?" Kent asks.

"On Path? They hit freighters, not major military ports, and this is a Union wide transmission, that's a Secretary seal on the comms. This alert is covering more than one system at least."

"Are we... going to land?" One of your clones asks.

"We land now we'll never get off this rock." the pilot says. "We're punching it." He quickly types out a new vector and the small freighter begins to shake, the rattling of its hull echoing through the cramped bridge as you hear cargo netting snap and crates fly across their holds behind you.

At that moment, your Hive ship's gravity sensors detect something. A single, small, and very fast corvette. Your standard visual sensors quickly shift and wait for the light to reach you.

cont.
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>>2996418
According to the archive:

>228 corvettes
>744 frigates
>222 cruisers
>24 battlecruisers
>6 battleships
>1 mamma mia
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>>2996412
A hive ship is a massive, massive target that moves like cold molasses.

Ceph void cutters are the fastest, most agile ships in known space with weapons of literally limitless energy, capable of boring through any armor.

A fight between a hive ship and swarm of void cutters on their own is heavily weighted in the void cutter's favor.
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