Part I: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/232292/Part II: >>249192For all things Cewri (stat sheet, read it): http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9fPlot summary of last thread: During the second year, Welsten was officially integrated into the Cewri Tribe, with all the humans taken as slaves. The Kingdom of Brylon went on the offensive, basing their recapturing attempts on New Londo from the village of Amberly to the southwest. The giants kicked the shit out of them. Then Koggarach, a neigboring hill giant village and ally of the Cewri, came to town and proposed a swatrock tournament to be held at the first of every season. Expeditions to the west discovered a civilization of centaurs known as the Kholoron Khanate. The Kholoron Khanate was incredibly secretive, had a closed border policy, and had a strict policy of neutrality. Nevertheless they still allowed the giants to trade with them. The giants managed to block the flow of troops to Amberly, which caused them to launch a full-on offensive on New Londo. They were beaten, although a member of the Knights of the White Rose showed up the second time and proved to be a formidable foe and the giants sustained more casualties than before. Now, with transportation routes blocked off Amberly is vulnerable, but the giants still must face the newly-built fortress. In addition, winter is coming and although food and wood stores are good and everyone has enough housing, winter is still a tough time of the year and the giants must prepare.
(Archived Part 2 is at http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/249192/)5h of Coolha (Fall)1 turn until Coldha (Winter)Cewri Tribe: Stats (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(Free Action) Business with the wandering tradersYou part with 1050 of your silver coins and your Staff of the White Rose. In return get a Stone Tablet of Blessings, a pouch of gems, 50 stone. The traders also tell of a secret in the swamps to the south of Amberly: a mushroom forest with some very strange inhabitants. The forest is on an island in the middle of a lake, so the giants won’t be able to get to it normally, but the traders give the giants a single giant-sized canoe to visit the island with. (-1050 coins, -1 staff of the white rose, +1 stone tablet of blessings, +1 ruby, +3 emeralds, +5 sapphires, +1 canoe, +50 stone) (Mushroom City of Quil’squeg discovered!)>(Free Action) Wor and the TabletShaman Wor, eager to get his hands on another tablet, locks himself in his house again and begins studying the tablet. When he comes out, he has a further understanding of shamanic blessings! (Shamanic Blessings leveled up!)>Continuing progress on the settlementThe giants work on completing their new settlement, Ash Lake. Just the roofs now and it’ll be complete, which is a good thing because both Anor Londo and New Londo are at full capacity for giant housing. (Progress: 2/3)>Boosting the yak herdIn preparation for winter, the giants spark a yak boom in their yak herd! (Yak boom next turn)>Finishing the gate repairs and mounting the catapult to the wallThe giants finish the gate repairs and begin work on putting the human catapult on the wall as a stationary turret. They haul the catapult up there but need to fasten it down still. (Progress: 1/2)>Training the bearYou outfit the bear with a saddle and armor and begin training it for riding. As with Wor's bear, this will certainly not be easy. (-3 iron, -2 leather) (Progress: 1/3)
Hmmm do you guys think it's worth visiting the Mushroom people?I think we should probablyFinish new settlement with that new stonecontinue to research hexesContinue catipult and alchemy researchYou guys think this is good? I feel we need to prepare more for future battles.
>>262114We really do need more military.
>>262060We should also have our Blacksmith Giant continue to research the makings of the Centuar Battleaxe
(Tip: Preparing for Winter)Coldha will be here in one turn, so here's a reminder of how winter works.You can't use nature spells or boost cattle production. Additionally, farms will not be able to grow anything, so you will probably dip into the negatives for food production. Resource gathering suffers a penalty, and there is a chance of blizzards occurring that will leave you unable to do anything for the next turn (you will be alerted the turn before they come and all giants and humans will return home if outside the village). In addition, giants, humans and animals left without any form of shelter will start dying. You will also need firewood to survive. Similar to food, the more population you have the more firewood you will consume.
>>262165Why would we research centaur weaponry? We aren't ally's with them and they seem very very isolationist.
>>262168Whoops, by not being able to do anything I men not being able to do anything outside the village. So you can still research and do stuff indoors (along with gathering resources from mines and quarries). And one more thing: The wandering giant traders do not come in the winter. The swatrock tournament will still be held, however.
>>262189I'm suffesting we research how to make that weapon, because it seems to be powerful
>>262196maybe the season of Coldha the Giants have a tournament of Coldha Swatrock?2(or more) teams try to swat a rock across a frozen pond using human swords for skate
>>262207If anything we should just keep building and improving our Halberds. They fit better for our theme and are superior since they combine axes and spears.
>>262222>Them quints don't lie Alright then I guess the axe is jsit a specialty weapon
This might be useful:From your last battle, you note the following things about catapults:1. They do shit damage against troops2. They have a much longer range than slingers (the human catapults were firing from way in the back of the line)3. They get bonuses against walls and buildingsThis was asked a few times but I never got around to answering it
1st of Coldha5 turns until WethaCewri Tribe: Stats (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->Finishing the settlementHuzzah! The new settlement is completed! Your giants manage to construct some stone dwellings for both your humans and your giants. In addition, a wooden gate was built. The ground nearby is rich with granite deposits, which could be turned into a quarry for more stone. You may want to place some other buildings here too in order to get the town going. Ten giants from Anor Londo and ten giants from New Londo move to the settlement, and the excess giant and human populations will move here too. (New town: Ash Lake! New buildings: Stone dwellings (houses 75 giants), stone human dwellings (houses 100 humans), stone gate (town defense increased to 5))>Continuing the hex researchWor continues practicing some hexes, accidentally turning one human blue for a while. (Progress: 2/3)>Learning how to catapultThe giants study the human catapult for a while, and using their existing research, created a design for a giant catapult! (Tech gained: [Siege Weapons I])>Wor and alchemyIn addition to his hex exploits, Wor begins mixing various chemicals together and sprinkling a little hex magic in them for good measure. He steadily draws closer to unlocking the secrets of alchemy. (Progress: 2/3)>EVENTS: The air grows increasingly colder as winter sets in. The crops in the field wilt and die as the choking embrace of the winter cold buries them in snow and ice. It is now Coldha.>The Koggarach giants are back in town, this time with a new game! The swatrock teams move to the frozen lake where they learn how to play the game of Ice swatting. The rules are similar to Swatrock - hit a rock in midair as hard as you can, winner is the one who hits the rock the farthest - but instead played on the frozen surface of a lake, with the aim being to hit the rock on the ground so that it slides on the lake. The winner would again be the one who slides the rock the farthest. Now that everyone has learned the rules, the game of Sliprock begins!>Yak boom! An additional three yaks join the herd. (+3 greater yaks)
For the sliprock tournament, Koggarach bets 20 wood and asks that you bet the same. Do you accept?
>>262517Make it higher stakes.>If our team wins you give us your best set our armor and weapons, if you win the reversal will happen.>Our battle hardened clubs man will knock the shit out of those balls.
>>262569Keep in mind I roll 8d100 (the first four are our teams and the second four are Koggarach's) so it's a game of chance. Are you sure you want to risk giving up Fragarach, Sword of Stronk that easily?
>>262594Nah I assumed their would be more people whom would have said shit against it.>Bet 10 yaks for 10 yaks.
>>262504FUCK YYES I LiVE FOR HOCKEY OP YOURE THE SHIT BEEN HERE SINCE THE START
>>262569im sorry but no we need our military and armour more than ever rn mang
Rolled 90, 75, 2, 17, 40, 57, 31, 32 = 344 (8d100)>>26260710 yaks for 10 yaks? Bet accepted.You probably know the rules by now. I roll 8d100 and the highest team is the winner. Rolls go in this order: Your teams:>The Anor Londo Boulders>The New Londo Direbears>The Welsten Wasters>The Boulder Bashing Buddies (BBB)Koggarach's teams:>The Koggarach Worgs (best team)>The North Gargan Avalanches>The South Gargan Mad Yaks>The Welsten Valley Clobberers
>>262650AND THEY DO IT AGAIN! THE ANOR LONDO BOULDERS WIN! Strengar does a victory lap around the lake. The Sir Gough's Cup stays with the Anor Londo Boulders.
>>262656We need to host the next game. Tourism makes crazy money.
>>262656Also you get 10 yaks. Since Anor Londo's stable is full, the overflow will go to New Londo's stable.Now, what to do for the next turn?
>>262504Construct more iron Halberds. I envision our forces to compose of halberdiers in the future.Research for better shieldsMove some Yaks to New Londo but expand the Yak pens in Anor Londo Explore the land west of Koggarach and north of the centaur trading post
>>262687I support this plan.
>>262687Could we ask the centaurs if we can have a copy of their rules so we could come in to their land?It would be good to get these horse men as some allies.>Also that sweet sweet iron working.
I suggest we send in a spy to find the enemy's food storage Then under cover of dayc sand an acolyte of fire with a small bodyguard squad to blow it upStarve them out of our city
>>262687+1but maybe research better metal working or something instead of explore because winter
>>262731We should prepare for an assualt on Amberly soon enough. It's a fortress town that stands almost directly south of Anor Londo and is a enemy staging point. I'm expecting a force composed of many heavily armored Giants to storm the city with fire acolytes providing support and break down the gates. Casualties are a part of war after all.>>262733That probably makes more sense. It's just that the fog of war like that kind of bothers me.
>>262687+1 halberds and shields>>262733+1 now that it's winter we should stick to the research and stuff around the villages, we don't want to lose anyone to exposure.Train Wor tooFinish building projects
>>262753We can use winter to train. Come spring we can flank Amberly from Anor and New Londo
>>262619Yeah Insiggested we make the sport It ended up more like curling but whatever
Better just stay in home and do some research in winter.-Dig deeper mine, look for more and better ore-Try too research some weapon, i suggest learn about centaur axe and mix it with our halberd too create some giant halberd with axe.
>>262753get the humans in on this too, you have me sold>train everyone more and build the force and assult summer time we can fuck soome shit upCewri tripe is best tribe
2nd of Coldha4 turns until WethaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(Free Action) Negotiations with the centaursThe problem is that the centaurs don't trust you yet. Well, really they don't trust anyone who isn't a centaur. But you do seem to know something about them: they like mead and trading with them seems to make them happy. Maybe this is the key to gaining their trust? You think that there might be something else you could do, but you haven't thought of anything yet.>Forging halberds and shieldsStrengar and the other blacksmiths get to work, forging 5 iron halberds and 3 bronze wall shields. The group then gets to practicing with the halberds and practicing squad phalanx tactics with the wall shield wielders (they decide to call them "defenders") taking point and providing cover for the squad while it advances. Additional bronze heavy armor was crafted to outfit the halberdiers. (-10 iron bars, -30 bronze bars, +5 iron halberdiers, +5 bronze defenders)>Metallurgy researchThe giants decide to try and research a new, tougher metal. They already knew mixing bronze and tin gave them a stronger armor, but what about iron? They get the basics but scratch their heads as to what materials to use..or what about other metals? The mountains are full of them, and your giants think the key is digging deeper. Still, you can't just dig, you have to set up supports and all that or else cave-ins will happen. This will take time. (Deeper mine progress: 1/2) (Metallurgy progress: 1/4, research stalled until a suitable forging material is found)>New hexes and alchemyWith an air of contentment surrounding him, Shaman Wor announces that he has furthered his knowledge of hexes. Additionally, he taught the tribe the basics of alchemy that he learned. (Shamanic hexes leveled up!) (New tech gained: [Alchemy I])>Finishing up the building projectsThe giants, despite the cold, finish construction on the catapult mounted to the wall. (+1 catapult turret)>EVENTS:-All your units have healed and are ready to return to battle!-You have an enormous amount of favor! Maybe it's time to spend it?
>>263127Ack, meant +3 bronze defenders
Give offering to Lava Mama to train another Acolyte of fire and to enhance our spells such as explosion and research others that will help in bringing to Amberly fort.
>>263127Level up divine fire magic and unlock volcano!Then use the rest to train acolytes. We should get like 10 from it I think.If the fire acolytes can get close enough to the fortress they can ruin its day
>>263127Let's get higher level divine fire magic and see if we can learn any new good spells with rest of favor.Continue metallurgy research.Sell 10 barrels of mead to the centaurs.Train more units.
>>263178>>263173>>263177We have reached a verdict lol
>>263178You mean dig the mines, right? You can't really progress without a suitable metal (coal for steel, maybe?).
>>263194Sorry, I meant continuing the mine
>>263127Maybe 75 favor for warmth, better living during blizzard and winter.50 or more favor for explosion scope, higher aoe radius too burn numerous human army at once seems good.
Are those berrys on those trees north of ash lakeAnd if so are they the kind that can be harvested in winter?
>>263178What units exactly?>>263323You recognize them as fruit-bearing trees. Perhaps you could make an orchard out of them in the future. But probably not until spring.
>>263395Needs to research better ammunition for siege weapons... like bunches of smaller rocks for pelting troops or boulders covered in burning pitch for attacking cities. Also maybe the giants can try to build a giant-sized trebuchet once we have better metals? It will be useful in wearing down the walls of a fortress
>>263514Before we research catapult ammo tech meybe we should make a couple moreCurrently our only catapult is mounted on the wall, not that we can't make More for defense
3rd of Coldha4 turns until WethaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(Free Action) Spy in AmberlyYou send your spy back into Amberly and see that not even half the troops that were there before the last raid are still there. No sign of Crowley either, although the fortress looks like trouble. If the road wasn't blocked and reinforcements came, there would probably not be much hope for the giants. Better not let that happen.>(Free action) Analyzing the centauric battleaxeTo Strengar it looks like a normal iron battleaxe, but it has a strange symbol etched on it. Perhaps this is one of those runes you've heard about? If only you had that scroll and a centaur ally..>Returning the FavorIn exchange for all the offerings you have given to Lava Mama, she rewards Elmagh with new and enhanced fire abilities. Lava Mama has now also granted the ability to train Clerics of Fire, an enhanced version of the acolyte, for 100 favor each. (-750 favor, Divine Fire Magic leveled up!) >Finishing the mineYou dig down to the lower levels of your new mine, and realize that it is quite expansive and rich with Lava Mama's wealth. You have now found a source for tin and iron, and also have found coal and a strange bluish metal! (Shallow mine upgraded to Mine) (Tin discovered! Iron discovered! ??? discovered!)>Mead for the centaursThe centaurs thank you for your business and hand you 750 silver coins. (-10 barrels of mead, +750 silver coins, your status with them changed from neutral to useful)>(Free Action) Researching ammunitionThe catapult is nice and fun to launch, but perhaps it could have applications against humans as well? Flaming rocks? Maybe lots of little rocks? The giants begin researching the possibilities. (Progress: 1/5)>EVENTS: -Food isn't quite as abundant as before, which means that the population growth rate in Anor Londo has decreased slightly.
>>263565Can we spend favor too upgrade our fire acolyte too fire cleric ?Keep making mead and trade too centaur.Continue our blacksmithing research with iron, tin and ??? ore.
>>26359980 favor will bump your acolyte to a cleric.
>>263565Also some more slingers should be trained. And maybe we could learn the ways of the other giants hurling pointy tree logs at their enemies or javelins how they call them
>>263599+1 I would like a total of 10 clerics/priestess so we can put them around Amberly and duck up the fortress with earthquakeAs soon as spring hits, we should attack. We could lose our advantage of the blocked road!
3rd of Coldha4 turns until WethaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->Upgrading the acolytesThe giants will need all the divine strength from Lava Mama they can get if they want to take down Amberly Fortress. The acolytes pray fervently to the gods and, in exchange for their offerings, grants them new and enhanced powers. The four acolytes have now been upgraded to clerics, and an additional two giantesses have been given power on par with the clerics. In addition, four more giants receive the acolyte status. While the clerics aren't nearly as powerful as Elmagh, they have learned how to cast Minor Explosion (effectively giving them AoE capabilities). (+6 clerics gained, +4 acolytes gained)>Learning from KoggarachThe giants, wondering about the sharpened tree-trunk throwing javeliners of the Koggarach Tribe, endeavored to learn more about the art. The warriors from the Koggarach Tribe eagerly taught the art to four young up-and-coming giants. (+4 javelin throwers, -4 lumber)>Mead for the centaursYour giants, eager to please the centaurs, brew up 11 barrels of mead and ship them off to the Kholoron Khanate. It seems they like you a bit now, but gifts can only get you so far...you should stop by the trading post when you get the chance.>Metallurgy ResearchEager to learn about the new ore and itching to learn how to make new alloys, Strengar gets hard to work at analyzing the capabilities of each. (Progress: 2/4)>Building a giant-sized catapultLooking over the designs your giants made in the workshop, they begin building a catapult like the human one, but with bigger proportions to match their size. This will tear quite the hole in Amberly's wall when it's done! (Progress: 1/2) >EVENTS:The cold winter air becomes even colder as a dense flurry of snowflakes combined with a bone-chilling wind blows through the valley. A blizzard has come!
>>263893>>263893Continue with all current researchVisit centaurDrill current troops or train more troops
I say we should get Wor an apprentice in case of his death.Op is there the possibility of losing this quest? As in completely lose every hero and settlement?
>>263911Visiting the centaurs can wait until the blizzard passes >>263893>finish current projects>adapt the search for catapult ammo to include good alternate ammo for slingers Sling or catapult ammo suggestions: small burning logs, large burning logs, carved Wooden balls (for distance), carved stone rounds (stronger than wood and more aerodynamic than a boulder), metal of all shapes and sizes clumps of beads. Then we have bio shot like the formerly suggested barrels of shit, rotten yak carcass, and a new one, if we can force our humans to bee keep then not only do we get honey for our brewing but we can also huck beehives at the enemy.
>>263916Yes, heroes are hard to kill off due to having high stats but it's possible. Particularly if confronted by other heroes. You already encountered one of the weaker ones who had OHKO spells.
4th of Coldha2 turns until WethaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->Metallurgy researchThe blizzard rages fiercely outside, but Strengar is kept nice and warm by the heat of the forge as he continues experimenting with the metals. He notes that the blue metal is very resilient, and would make good armor. The iron alloy he's experimenting with can hold a razor sharp edge, making it good for weaponry. He still needs to get everything just right before he can start making things with them, though. (Progress: 3/4)>Catapult constructionWork continues in the workshop as well as the giants put the finishing touches on their new catapult. It'll be ready to roll out as soon as the blizzard is over. (+1 catapult (4A, 1D, bonus against walls and buildings, penalty against infantry and cavalry)>Siege ammunition researchIn the workshop, the research team is also churning out new ammunition for catapults and slingers. They have some good ideas but need to find a way to implement them.>Training more troopsThe troops have trouble training due to the blizzard outside, but the giants in New Londo and Ash Lake find empty houses to train in. Only two clubsmen are produced, however. (+2 bronze clubsmen, -10 bronze bars)>EVENTS:-The blizzard has passed! The giants are able to safely go outside the village again.-Praise the sun! Winter will be over in 2 turns.
Gonna get to bed, see you tomorrow afternoon.In the meantime, here's something to think about:Silver coins are the currency of the world, but what would the giants call their currency?
>>264104So far Giants have no need of currency, strengar makes everything they need for free, the silver coins we do have are all spoils of war, which the giant government (us) spends on things for the betterment of the society, mostly magic learning tools so far. Ore and bars are used like currency to acquire favor from the gods too,I can see giants making the correlation about precious metals being important but I'm not so sure they have much motivation to mint their own coins, I would imagine they could just addopt the neighbors coinage system as it seems the coins themselves are easy to acquire and are already accepted by the centaurs, humans, halflings and the koggarch Giants. we aren't even real participants in the economic system, we stole all the coins we have used, from an economic standpoint at least. its not like we are working or paying taxes to the crown under which the coins are minted (barylian? Who's coins are we using anyways?) Coins value is determined by not only the weight of the precious metal but the ability to provide of the governor that backs them. We primarily deal in raw materials anyways, it's really just convenient that our neighbors take the coins we seem to find littering the various battlefields we fight in.Tldr; civ economics suck let's ignore them
>>264294I agree that we shouldn't mint coins but rather have a name the giants use for the silver coins we find. Like, I don't know, irks?
>>264048+1 for giving Work an apprenticeStrengthen the capital's walls with stone These centaurs are such sticklers for rules, there has to be a band of outcasts somewhere Use favor to enchant our heroes' weapons with fire magicLet's take down Amberley now! I think we're ready. Smash their walls with explosives and earthquakes and take no prisoners
>>264358Dum's because of the dumb faces on the front
>>264048>>264364Also, brew up some mead to trade the centaurs for the token of animal friendship. If we use it on an alpha male warg, we can control a whole packWhat kind of alchemy can we use?
I'm not sure how our humans would react to a massacre of there kin even if they have been sending armies against us>kill men>bring wimin n children back as super slaves under our other slaves supervision
>>264541I think that once you have 'super slaves' you really cant consider yourself a good person anymore.
>>264364It's still one turn of winter. Attacking during it seems stupid.+1 for giving Work an apprenticeLet's talk with centaurs because we are useful to them, so something maybe progressed.>>264541Wasn't Amberly halflings though? Humans were seem to distrust halflings if it's truth what Wilbur said.
>>264541They don't need to know about giant affairs >>264552By human standards, but they are small and weak. We a the children of the gods and we are Stronk>>264605Oh shit, I thought it was about to be done. Let's bump up our numbers of clubsmen and slingers then
>>264817>>264048Continue troops drill and productionContinue armor and weapon research+productionZerg rush amberly when spring arrives
We should stop trading with those horse bastards to the west. They are hostile to us and only serve themselves. Why give them perfectly good mead that should be going to Giants? The eternal Centaur seeks nothing but the destruction of all races and if given the chance would kill and enslave our people with out mercy. Their "weapons" are feeble in comparison to giant smithing and to take interest and use them would be an insult to giant blacksmiths everywhere who take so much time to help their giant communities. If we allow the centaurs even a small foothold in giant society it will spread like a plague and eventually bring us down from with in.
>>265001This entire time I've been getting Qunari vibes from the Centaur.
>>265001They have different magic than us - the rune things, which could greatly improve our weapons. Also if we could ally with them we could have good ranged troops that we right now lack.
>>265023The centaurs are isolationist. Giving them supplies in an attempt to win them over is pointless. We could potentially spend an untold number of resources on trying to woo the centaurs but there is a very strong chance they will simply turn it down by orders of their kings and laws. Even if they are allies their effectiveness would be brought into question.They are horse kin and the enemies we're fighting are phalanxes who would butcher them easily. Besides who really wants centaurs allies. Nothing but a bunch of unreliable nomadic ruffians.
>>265111We don't know if giving them the ale was pointless because we didn't talk to them after the fact. Also they gave us coins for our mead.How would spearmen kill mounted archers? Cause I doubt they can catch up to them.
>>265149Centaurs aren't mounted archers. A centaurs would have none of the advantages of a horse archer since the archer can shoot and aim while the horse is moving. A centaur is essentially just a person but with four legs.
>>265165But they don't need to aim too well? They can just use caracole tactics and just try to thin out the closest troops. Also I would assume they have the speed of a horse.
>>265187That is not the giant way. Only cowards would use such a tactic when you can do battle and crush your enemy in the traditional manner. Also hurling fireballs.
>>265219You mean the giant way that is making swamps and attacking people when they are weakened?
>>265231The tactics and strategies of Giants are not meant to be understood by small Non-giant minds like yours.
>>265231By using the power of giant shamans and with the blessing of the couple. We only use the swamp ability to reach our enemy and not actually weaken them.
>>265001Easy there, we don't need to make a reputation of being backstabers. We both benefit mutually through trade. We also can't afford to have enemies pushing at both sides.
>>265356I'm not calling for a full on centaur genocide although that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. I just think it wasteful to give to the centaurs when they will still keep to themselves. They're also degenerate nomads for a reason. They just leave their feces on the ground which is why they always move from place to place. I don't think any of us want that on our streets.
>>265001>>265378Why stop trading, they maybe keeping a bit distance because our flaws but they never show any agresion or evil intent[Menacing]: Physical appearance tends to scare off smaller races and threaten large ones.
So, do our Giants have the Hole-face or a normal face?I'm partial to the Hole-face, really emphasises the fact that they aren't just Huge humans.
>>265595They're like the Giants in dark souls 1 and 3 but a lot smaller I think. Around 13 feet is the average height. Pic related
>>265689So slightly larger than the size of a Sentinel then?Ds2 Giant-King sized?
>>265701Probably around the size of sentinels. I haven't played or really watched any Dark Souls 2 so I don't know how big the giant King is.
>>265001You Giant Supremacists make us look like giant douchebags. If giants were perfect we wouldn't have been exiled in the first place
>>265149>>265111>>265023>>265001It has been established that trading with them is getting us somewhere:See>>263565>>Mead for the centaurs>The centaurs thank you for your business ... your status with them changed from neutral to useful)And >>263893>>Mead for the centaurs>It seems they like you a bit now, but gifts can only get you so far...you should stop by the trading post...We have more to lose than gain by stopping trade with them.
>>265882Jealousy breeds success my friend. We were exiled because the others feared our capabilities. It is giant kinds destiny to rule the world and to do away with the unfit races. The centaurs are just one such race.
>>265882I'm no radical like >>265943 mr. "Make anor londo great again", I am willing to trade excess mead to the centaurs for magic but I do not respect their laws, the only reason we have not broken their false borders is because we have plenty of conquest over on our side of the mountains. I care not for the politics of horses, I am but a simple slinger and that they have not offended my giant sensibility and graciousness just yet, These foolish horses trade in coin and give away magic, our industrious Brewers will capitalize on the weak wills of this lesser race.
I just don't see the point with baseless hostility. I mean sure if someone wrongs us we should definitely crush them. But against those that did nothing wrong it seems pointless.We still don't know how big the human empire really is and even if we conquer it whole, we will probably have to fight the orcs.
>>266080+1 if they are not openly hostile then they are a potential ally.>>266043 >265943 mr. "Make anor londo great again"Hahahaha >but I do not respect their laws, the only reason we have not broken their false borders ... I care not for the politics of horses ... they have not offended my giant sensibility and graciousness just yet, These foolish horses ...They probably feel the same about the giants. But where does that leave us?
>>266043Similar to the story of How the stronkborn defeated the hill Giants oldest mortal rivals the treants or as the Giants call them "wooden Giants" or "wood's"Stronkborn had just established (the now currently lost) city of stronkonia On a site that was holy not only to the hill Giants but also to the wood's. Every day the woods would come alive and atack the city of strokonia and every night the woods would retreat to rest and regroup. This went on for many years until stronkborns third wife, demigod and master brewer "Mariugah the divine alchemist" devised a plan to go out in the middle of the night and water the woods with poison. That night was especially dark and she grabbed the wrong barrel by mistake and while she thought she was poisoning the woods she was feeding them the finest mead ever made. The next day it seemed like it had worked the woods did not appear to fight in the morning and the city of stronkonia was overjoyed, that night a terable wale could be heard all througout the forest that kept the city of stronkonia awake all night The next morning the woods appeared at the gates, on hands and knees, not to fight but to beg for more of the delicious mead that they were given the night before, the stronkborn demanded that the woods lay down their arms, the woods literally ripped off their arms and lay them before stronkborn, and this is why giants use wooden clubs, also why religious giants splash a small amount of Mead on any tree or wood they intend to harvest or use for crafting.
Back! >>264406I'll write up a list later. For now just write-in potions are fine (subject to GM veto if too powerful) for now.>>265595I've grown to consider them to be more akin to a mix of D&D hill giant and dark souls giant that bear characteristics of both. So not quite giant humans but not quite hole-in-the-face spoopmonsters either.I'm liking the debate with the giant supremacists vs. the giant progressives. Who will win and determine the course of giant society?
>>264841Also when you guys say "more troops" or "make weapons" I'd really appreciate it if you'd specify what kind of units you want. Otherwise I'll just give you random units like clubsmen or slingers.
>>266180Heavy troops with great shields and hammers. A lighter troop with leather armor with a long two handed sword.Start making officer helmets and giving or military some order giving our hero's new recruits to train in archery, swordsmanship and other things.
>>266213>>266195I forsee a future where rather than having specific troop rolls we would have all of our giants outfitted with a sling with a bag of diffrent kind of shot, an advanced mace or club of some kind, a net, a wrist mounted buckler, and lightly trained in fire magic, Or at leas a few commando/gladiator units, why not embrace all parts of giant culture?
>>266321Jack of all trades, chest full of blades.
>>266321>>266213I want to emphasize the net users, it's like having a mundane rope version of the swamp spell, plus at a Giants size it will be extra effective on groups of smaller units, you can throw the net and then bash or throw the net then set it on fire, or throw it than drag the weaklings away from their allies. I wonder who can throw a net the furthest? Nets rule. Maybe even a new game, whoever can net the biggest yak the fastest wins. Giant rodeo!
>>266321If we have a disorganized and undisciplined force it would be hardened to lead. While I agree not having all of our troops be in units.We need a majority of our soldiers to be in units that can be easily advanced and retreated.>We can make diffrent military branches.>Our Army Will be in units, organized and discipline where most recruiters go.>Our Mariners will be the best of the best and be able to pick and choice their armor and gear.
>>266340Using those names as place holders.
5th of Coldha1 turns until WethaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(Free Action): Seeing what the centaurs wantAlthough many would like to never give the arrogant centaurs another barrel of mead again, you at least decide to go to the trading post to see what they want. Apparently, in order to get into good graces with the centaurs you must prove your strength. Since the centaurs at the trading post like you enough, they give you a lead: there's a dragon that's been rather troublesome to the centaurs in the southwestern plateaus. The centaurs would like you to get rid of it, but as it is in centaur territory the other centaurs won't simply let you pass freely. The centaur traders suggest sending a team of 4 of your best heroes to fight this dragon. However, choose well, as dragons are some of the most powerful creatures on the planet. The giants decide to go back to think this over, they do have Amberly to worry about after all. The centaurs simply tell you to return when you're ready, that dragon's lair isnt going anywhere.>(Free Action) More from the spyYour spy in Amberly is doing well, this time sketching a rough map of Amberly Fortress. It seems there are thick, stone walls around much of Amberly Fortress and the fortress itself has five mounted ballistas on it - four small ones on the corners of the main fortress and one larger one atop the tower next to it. He marked the positions of the ballistas with triangles. The situation is getting dangerous there, however, and he asks that he be recalled immediately.>More troops, more weaponsThe giants decide to expand on their retinue, making giant, heavy iron versions of the hammers they build with. Strengar finds that these are especially effective against heavily armored troops, even more so than maces. However, they're big and heavy meaning that they can only be wielded with two hands. Three of these units are trained and equipped. Strengar also finishes a prototype for a two-handed iron sword like Fragarach called the zweihander and gives them to three fighters along with light armor for speed and maneuverability. In addition, three more halberdiers are trained. Strengar notes that you're getting low on both iron and bronze. (-45 iron, +3 iron halberdiers, +3 iron hammermen, +3 iron zweihandermen, +equipment for each)>Finishing metallurgyStrengar thinks he can finally put the two metals into production. The tough durable mineral is dubbed "Mithril" and the shiny iron alloy is dubbed "Steel". As stated before, Strengar suggests that mithril be used for armor and steel be used for weapons. (New tech: [Metallurgy II])>Wor's apprenticeShaman Wor, growing old, knows his time may come at any moment and thus begins to pass his acquired knowledge down to a pupil named Valdoth. Wor is pleased with his progress but realizes he still has much to learn. (Progress: 1/5) (New hero gained: Valdoth, Shaman Apprentice)(cont'd)
>>266364Begin to rally our troops. The time has finally come to break Amberly. Also get Wor a big hat to wear.
>>266376Should we actually make Milthril armor and Steel weapons for the best troops first?
>>266385I say attack the fortress now just because theres the possibility that if we procrastinate they might add another layer of defense. I'm also not sure how many troops we can equip with mithril and steel equipment.
>>266397How does the seasons work though. If we go out now will it counts as Coldha or Wetha
>>266364>[Divine Fire Magic: Fire Blessing]Elmagh takes Fragarach, Gough's bow and Armaaga's bow and casts an incantation, causing the weapons to glow a bright orange before being set ablaze by flame for a second. The fires may be called again in time of need, granting +1 to attack to all three weapons.>EVENTS: Spring will arrive next turn.
>>266364Throw a festival on a full moon outside of the fort walls where everyone wears scary outfits and burns a big ass fire, chanting and dancing around it induce some fear before the battle.>Find out the name of their God, leader or anyone important and chant scrifice this person all night.
>>266407Don't worry I have just the right costumes in mind>>266403I suppose that we should wait until spring. Spend this time to arm as many of our troops with Steel and mithril as possible for the upcoming assualt.
>>266403Next turn will be the 1st of Wetha.Also do you guys got a plan for attack if you're doing it next turn? Those ballistas look painful.>>266407I don't recommend it.
>>266364Call the spy back, we got all we need. Those ballistas will give us hell if we approach from an open area.I suggest when we decide to attack Amberley it be at night. There's a forest near that would give a wonderful cover for us to pelt them with a volley of projectiles. Plus they'll need fire light to operate the hold, making them an easy target.
>>266425+1>>266407+1We might as well let Wor train his apprentice too and see if we extend the mine even more.
>>266425Also the giant tower shield we have, would it be punctured by the ballista bolts?
>>266439Probably not but you'd take significant recoil from the blow and it'd probably get a large dent.
>>266439I guess we could try to put giants with shields in front and behind them fire priests and then blow the balistas when we get close.
So, I'm willing to bet that once we figure out Plate armor we will officially look like Anor Londo Sentinels.Obviously, the next upgrade from THAT theme is producing regiments of Tower-Knight expies.I want you guys to imagine an army of this fucker on an open field coming to break your fortress and kill your dudes.
>>266468What if enemy lightning mage?
>>266476Then we trust in Stronkdad and Lava Mama to not have created a bunch of pussies.
>>266468That is inspiring, heavy defenders need heavy stabbers
>>266476I think the scout said he wasn't there on the first report about military strength.When this battle is over we should look into those berrys by ash lake>mr. Make anor londo great again10/10
>>266463Well the idea is to pepper them with projectiles, it may be a shot in the dark, literally. But we pose a chance of breaking the ballistas. Once we assess the situation we'll use the tower shield to storm the wall with other shield wielding units. Upon reaching the wall the tower shield will act as a stepping stone.
>>266422>>266425+1Writing a strategy now>>266468+1 a project for summer>>266485+1 Lava Mama don't make no trash
>>266490The best part about that lance?It's a pig-sticker, it gouges out diamond / triangular wounds that unless something has straight regeneration or directed magical healing will never heal correctly.
Bring all our troops but leave a skeleton crew behind to keep our lands safe. (Specifics TBD)Strategy: In the middle of the night, the Giants take the road to Amberly and ensure the road is still blocked. Before the fortress is in sight the split into 2 units. Stronk unit goes to the north forest above Amberly. Lava unit goes to the forest east of Amberly. Lava unit strikes first. Earthquake on the walls, Fire on the ballistas. When Lava unit has the attention and ground troops make contact, burn the forest with their ground force inside. Then move Lava unit east and up into the forest where Stronk unit starts.On cue, as Lava unit retreats, Stronk unit comes in from the north and pours into the gates while the ballistas burn. Once Lava unit has regrouped in the north, they will come down and strike again.We come in waves and erupt like the volcanoes from which we hail! Praise to Stronk!
>>266634We should try to use all of our metal material to outfit our troopsIn order for this to happenwe will need MANY more Giants shield defenders. Should we make the shields out of mythril? The shields could also come in handy for that dragon.We should also bolster our troopnumbers even more before the assault
>>266634Military rough draft:Lava Unit: 5 Heavy; 3 Halberds; 2 Maces; 1 Hammer; 2 Zweihand; 4 slingers; 4 clerics; 1 acolyte; Elmagh; WorStronk Unit: Gough; Armaaga; 5 Heavy; 10 Halberds; 2 Maces; 4 Defenders; 1 Zweihand; 7 slingers; 4 javelins; CatapultLeave behind the rest under Strengar in case they send someone in (sounds unlikely but you never know)Melee: 12 Bronze Heavy Clubsmen (3A, 4D), 14 Iron Halberdiers (4A, 4D, bonus against cavalry units), 3 Iron Hammermen (4A, 4D, armor-breaking x2), 4 Obsidian Macemen (4A, 4D, armor-breaking), 4 Bronze Defenders (1A, 7D, provides cover against ranged attacks for 3 units), 3 Iron Zweihandermen (4A, 3D, bonus against infantry)Ranged: 9 Slingers (2A, 3D), 4 Javelin Throwers (3A, 3D)Magic: 6 Clerics of Fire (4A, 4D) (Bonus against flammable objects), 4 Acolytes of Fire (3A, 4D) (Bonus against flammable objects)Siege Weapons: Catapult (3A, 1D) (Major bonus against walls and buildings, penalty against infantry and cavalry)Allied Troops: 4 Bronze Light Clubmen (3A, 3D), 4 Javelin Throwers (3A, 2D)
>>266656At the very least we should train 6 or more defenders and a couple more slingers and javelin throwers. Those 2 handed sword and gamer Units look useful as well.OP does that mine we have generate ore per turn now? Also do we have enough money for the Rune tablet now?
>>266656Do we have time? You attack with the army you have, not the army you wish you had. They're fortifying too, and they're faster than we are at that. But of course the issue will go to the Council of War for a vote anyway.
>>266678We definitely need some shield defenders in the Stronk Unit. We would Benifit from more ranged and melee types too
>>266681>>266682We should make more giant defenders but give them disposable great shields just for the charge to the wall then toss them, excluding the real defenders.Other then that's I would say train more hammers, this is gonna be their last stand so we have to make sure to make a display of what happens when you resist.
>>266690Man I wish we had spent our mead on threat totem of animal friendship, then we could have gotten more animal mounts
>>266697Well OP I see that we are running out of ore, how many units are we able to train?Does that mine produce any ore?
Well we could always fill barrels with feces and chuck it inside their hold. It would turn their fort against them. It provides effective harrasment. And is low resource demanding.But that idea was coined before. And I agree with >>266682
Nevermind on the last post, got the info I need.>>266702Yup, and you'll get more next update too. Wanna forge everything you have? You can probably make about one shield with the mithril you've collected.
>>266707Yes I think we should.I remember we have a battering ram that will help with the siege.We could have humans help us, offering payment in mead and the 827 Shina-bits (coins)
>>266707>one shield with the mithril you've collected.Give it Balgmar and put him with Lava Unit (forgot to include him lol)
>>266727I assumed a 2-handed shield he could use to get close, then sling on his back and switch to Fragarach. That might be stupid. Maybe give it to Wor or someone vulnerable...
>>266735A shield you can use only half the time is basically worthless.No, if we make a shield that big, that fucker better learn how to wield his weapon in one hand and the shield in another.
>>266725I think the humans we have are still slaves so I don't think we can offer them coins without first giving them freedom.We could totally take a gamble though and say we will give them freedom if they participate in the military campaigns but they will probably desert or fight against us.Well unless Wilbur actually knows anyone that's trustworthy.
1st of Wetha5 turns until HothaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(3 actions) Last-minute preparations - SmeltingStrengar gets hard to work at smithing up some new weapons and armor out of the new ore. He starts with a custom-order mythril shield for one of the defenders. Then, he makes another set for a halberdier, along with a bronze club and armor for a 2 clubsman and a mace and armor for a maceman. Lastly, he makes a mighty steel halberd for one lucky giant. (-3 mithril bars, -3 steel bars, -11 iron bars, -15 bronze bars) (+2 bronze heavy clubsmen, +1 obsidian maceman, +1 steel halberdier (in iron armor), +1 mithril defender, +2 iron halberdiers)>Final preparations (and then raid!)Since you got new units you should probably think about where to put them before you start.
>>266844Ooooh boy! I vote mithril and steel to Stronk unit and the 2 iron halberds to Lava unit
Done. So, final preparations:Lava Unit:Balgmar (commander)ElmaghWor5 Heavy Clubsmen5 Iron Halberdiers2 Obsidian Macemen1 Iron Hammerman2 Iron Zweihanders4 Slingers4 Clerics1 AcolyteTotal Military: 26 Stronk Unit:Gough (commander)Armaaga5 Heavy Clubsmen10 Iron Halberdier1 Steel Halberdier4 Bronze Defenders1 Mithril Defender1 Zweihander7 Slingers4 Javelin Throwers1 CatapultTotal Military: 36Defense Team:Strengar (commander)4 Bronze Heavy Clubsmen2 Clerics of Fire3 Acolytes of Fire4 Allied Light Bronze Clubsmen4 Allied Javelin Throwers2 Iron Hammermen2 Obsidian MacemenTotal Military: 22Is this correct?
>>266950This seems goodinb4 we find the giant blacksmiths corpse in Anor Londo
>>266950+1 I feel like maybe too many defense but who knows they might be necessary?!
>>266950how bout requesting our allies for defense ?
>>267057We already have :o they're listed as Allied on Defense Team
>>267067>>266950Ahh just wake up so i miss those allied defender, how bout leaving only 10 or 15 giant for defense ? its probably ok because we didnt see any enemy movement.
>RAID!Unfortunately, due to the dark conditions, you cannot see all the troops in the fortress, but from what the spy said there should be about 40 iron spearmen, 50 archers, 20 iron horsemen and of course the 5 ballistas.>Turn 1:Sneak attack!Lava Team and Stronk Team get into position and prepare their initial attacks. [Divine Fire Magic: Earthquake]Elmagh summons the strength of Lava and Stronk and slams her fist against the ground, creating a massive earthquake which damages the walls!(Amberly Fortress town defense reduced from 6 to 4!)The acolytes and clerics strike next, creating a storm of explosions and doing severe damage to the ballistas! One of the smaller ones goes down but the largest one is protected by stone bulwarks and sustains minimal damage this time. However, three out of four are on fire and will continue taking damage until they're put out. Stronk Unit waits patiently for the time to strike.BALLISTA 1 HP: 58% (burning!)BALLISTA 2 HP: 20% (burning!)BALLISTA 3 HP: 71%BALLISTA 4 HP: DESTROYEDGIANT BALLISTA HP: 82%FORTRESS INTEGRITY: 78%
>>267129Sorry, Ballista 3 is burning as well.
>>267129Focus on ballista before the human can man it.
>Turn 2:The fortress wakes up and scrambles into action! Alerted to Lava Team's position, the humans quickly work to put the fires out on the ballistas. Twenty of the estimate fifty archers run atop the wall closest to Lava Team and fire! One halberdier is wounded as he takes one too many shots. Still, many of the shots widely miss and the rest of your giants are left with naught but a few scratches. You see the gates open. A line of ten spearmen and one horseman quickly escapes the gate before it is shut tightly once more. While the spearmen look for the threat in the woods, your giants spot the horseman running off into the distance. The clerics and acolytes resume firing on the ballistas, but their explosive power must be recharged...still, one ballistas go down. However, you see the fires being snuffed out on two, and the bigger one is locking on to your position...BALLISTA 1 HP: 32%BALLISTA 2 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 3 HP: 53%BALLISTA 4 HP: DESTROYEDGIANT BALLISTA HP: 78%FORTRESS INTEGRITY: 78%
>>267180In what direction is the horseman headed? Can we sling at him? Or can Wor catch him with magic?
>>267180(Lava Unit military strength: 25, 1 wounded)(Stronk Unit military strength: 36)(Amberly Fortress military strength: 110?)
TAKE THE HORSEMAN OUThe's heading to get reinforcements!
>>267180Fire the catapult at the more damaged of the two ballistas once it is destroyed fire at the ranks of the spearmen.send our fastest runner or the best archers to catch that horsemen!>Anyone who catches that messenger get the first pick of loot!
>>267180Don't move Stronk until there's a hole in the wall they're our ace up our sleeve
>>267188You can try, but the spearmen seem to be...covering him?
>>267202Cast Group Bad Luck on the horseman and his posse
>>267212Assuming you meant Mind Control wouldn't work...
>Turn 3[Shamanic Magic: Group Bad Luck]The spearmen attempt to intercept those who would attack the horseman...but one drops his torch and bumps into the other one! One of your slingers then throws a rock, and it manages to bounce off one spearman and smack another as well, killing two humans with one stone. Two of the five guarding the horseman now lie dead. Also, you see the horseman fall off his horse. However, his torch is put out as well and you can no longer see where he is...either way if he's going to get reinforcements it will take him longer to do so.The giants hear many loud snapping noises followed by the whoosh of three ballista bolts. The first one misses, but the second one lands true to a halberdier, who lies wounded. The giant ballista finds its mark in a maceman, who gasps and chokes as a ballista shot pierces his chest. He soon falls over, dead. The clerics respond by shooting another barrage of explosions, destroying a ballista and damaging the giant one and the other remaining one as well as screwing up the fortress a bit. In addition, they are both on fire. The acolytes concentrate on the archer line, easily killing three of them. Regardless, the archers continue firing. Although the shots are mostly blocked due to your clubsmen and macemen's trusty shields, one of the clerics is wounded by the barrage. The spearmen find and engage the Lava Team. The giants manage to kill two and one falls on his own spear..two remain though. Stronk Team continues to stand by..BALLISTA 1 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 2 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 3 HP: 13% (burning!)BALLISTA 4 HP: DESTROYEDGIANT BALLISTA HP: 62% (burning!)(Lava Team military strength: 22, 2 halberdiers and 1 cleric wounded, 1 maceman killed)(Stronk Team military strength: 36)(Amberly Fortress military strength: 102 (3 archers, 5 spearmen killed)
>>267222Oh shit, didn't see that
>>267309Also fortress integrity is currently at 68%. Walls are cracked severely but no holes a giant could squeeze through yet.
>>267330Ranged troops and light armor melee giant focus on ballista and human.Heavy melee giant and siege engine focus on gate or wall
>>267197+1can we also have the defense tem come in third just incse they bring some heavy reinforcement
>>267341+1 send the heavy to the wall! Make a hole. Clerics on the ballistas and wall. The rest on infantry and archers!>>267315Dang. Send our best tracker after him then!
>>267352And send 2 to head off the runner at the crossroad! Bring torches
>>267352We have good chances with the current forces and defense should be a priority too.
>>267352What if they send the reinforcements to new londo thinking their defenses can hold?I can go with 1/2 the def force as a rear guard but not everyoneJust in case
>>267373>>267375good points, we should make quick work here and try to draw more forces to lava team
>>267309have the catapult and the slingers fling rocks at the tower, so if it crumbles we have one less fortification to worry about
>>267407also we might want to see what we can salvage out of the giant ballista if we manage to recover some bits and bobs of it?
>>267407Can't use the catapult with a ballista still up it would kill it in one hit
>Turn 4(Reinforcements en route!)The fires are put out on the ballistas, but the last of the smaller ballistas is rendered unusable by the blaze. However, the giant ballista is still functional. The clerics fire at it, but they can't do much damage to it without their explosions so they instead focus on the archer line. 7 are killed in a fiery barrage. However, they fire back, concentrating on those who are busy fighting the spearmen. One acolyte is wounded in the attack. The zweihander units quickly dispatch the remaining spearmen while Balgmar orders an all-out charge on the wall. With a crash and a tumble there is now a hole in the fortress! The giants break through the western wall into what looks to be a residential district, where 10 spearmen and 20 swordsmen are waiting for them! One slinger is wounded during the chaos, although Balgmar rips through two swordsmen. Stronk Team is given its cue to strike and moves into position.Forces from New Londo intercept a human running south across the valley, but before they could catch him he gets a scroll from one of his pouches and uses it to shoot a small magic missile into the air! The interception team quickly kills the man to stop him from sending any more signals of any kind.
>>267473Phew I thought reinforcements en route were the enemies for a secAssume the enemy saw it and have the reinforcements lay an ambush in the woods under cover of darkI think the assault force is holding fine as is
>>267473BALLISTA 1 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 2 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 3 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 4 HP: DESTROYEDGIANT BALLISTA HP: 49%FORTRESS INTEGRITY: 62%(Lava Team military strength: 20, 1 acolyte, 1 cleric, 2 halberdiers, 1 slinger wounded, 1 maceman killed)(Stronk Team military strength: 36Amberly Fortress military strength: 107 (10 archers, 10 spearmen, 1 horseman, 2 swordsmen killed, 20 swordsmen joined the battle)
>>267501Along the route the flare was sentAs long as noone has any objections or better locations for it?
>>267498can we have stronk team blow their own hole in the wall and have both teams meet in the north and just fight their way out using the structure of the fort for our on defense once all out forces are inside
>>267517Sure. What of Lava Team?
We should deploy Stronk team now and seize the fortress. Lock out the humies from their own fort before relief can ever get here.
>>267517both teams meet in the northern part of the city and fight south trying to keep a tighter formation and get rid of the ballista
>>267545+1 I like the 2 hole strategy too so we don't get backed into a corner>>267514+1 where we laid the boulders and such
>Turn 5The giant ballista takes careful aim at its target, knowing that this might be his last shot, and hits a Lava Team zweihander unit, killing him with a giant harpoon through the back. The Clerics, with their explosion spells activated once more, this time dealing severe damage to the ballista due to their closer position. Not only is it on fire once more but it looks like it's on its last leg. Stronk Team sees its signal to move out and makes its way forward. They fire the catapult, which opens a solid hole in the wall, and bursts through the other side, where they encounter a regiment of 20 swordsmen and 10 spearmen, much like the other side. 20 archers scramble their way up the wall and begin firing, but the defenders form a shieldwall and completely block their arrows! Gough and Armaaga fire back, easily killing two archers, and the javelin throwers skewer 2 more. A zweihander takes the opportunity to run up the wall, killing three and knocking another two off the wall and to their deaths. They steadily work their way south, killing four swordsmen and a spearman, but one clubsman is wounded from a flank attack behind the defenders. Lava Team Lava also makes its way south, with Balgmar taking point and killing a swordsman while Wor charges in with his bear, which kills 2 swordsmen and a spearman in its attempt to satisfy its post-hibernation hunger. However, another spearman manages to knock Wor off the bear, wounding him. The remaining zweihander kills a spearman and Elmagh lights up two swordsmen. Then the halberdiers charge forward, killing an additional 3 swordsmen. The push southward continues.The warning beacon shines brightly from atop New Londo! Troops sighted to the north! Arrival in two turns!
>>267646Coming towards Amberley or New Londo??
>>267646Fug new londo is In danger, I'm not sure the exact numbers but I think we should send like 1/3 or 1/2 of our troops back for def Mostly slingers and clubs, and a few halverds and the apostles maybe a hero Depending on how well the offense is going
BALLISTA 1 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 2 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 3 HP: DESTROYEDBALLISTA 4 HP: DESTROYEDGIANT BALLISTA HP: 9% (burning!)FORTRESS INTEGRITY: 42%(Lava Team military strength: 18, 1 acolyte, 1 cleric, 2 halberdiers, 1 slinger, Shaman Wor wounded. 1 maceman, 1 zweihander killed.)(Stronk Team military strength: 35, 1 clubsman wounded)(Defense Team military strength: 11)(Amberly Fortress military strength: 84, 19 archers, 12 spearmen, 1 horseman, 17 swordsmen)
>>267673New Londo>>267689You might want to call back your ambush party too
>>267689+1Also maybe send someone to the other giants
>>267690it is safe too ignore the giant ballista now ? since its already burning and 9% hp left ?
>>267692Yes yes Not enough time to set another trap so go and fortify the garrison and set the catapult on the northern wall rather than the south, send word for reinforcements
>>267700+1 the Gods bless us with double dubs.Re route the ambush force to fortify new Londo and send 1/3 of our force to their aid. What troops should we send?
Refocus on damahing the fortress for the futre. Burn the fortress and run bring the ambush party back to New Londo
>>267711ok ignore ballista, proceed to smash wall and human
>>267741I'm more worried about Anor Londo
>>267700>>267711>>267722the gods truly are blessing us with double dubs todaysend back 1/3 of our giants like the other folks said but focus on damaging the fortress and leaving a lasting mark before we send the rest back to defend
>>267747With 1/3-1/2 returning from amberly the ambush force returning and the possibility of reinforcements from our allies I think as long as they don't have a hero or a ton of troops we should be fine>how many troops can they muster at this hour?>>267722These dubdubs must be signs from stronk dad and lava mama I suggest something like 4clubs 4-6slingsAll acolytes1 hero3halberds1 cleric1-2 shield guysGive or take... Thoughts?
>>2677552/3 of our force can still easily mop up the Fortress. I say we send our Chief Amaggq and our Fire Priestess to bolster New Londo. We should also Send. All Of our Ranged units should go with them as well, including our Clerics and initieates. Maybe even send some shield bearers macemen and halberdiers.
>>267782I think we need some ranged units... something to shoot at the men on the battlements with
>>267699>>267700>>267722>>267755wtf dubs dubs dubs dubs
>>267755Bless the dubsBut we shouldn't abandon this. Our losses will be in vain >KILL EVERYONEOr they will surely rebuild and retaliateAlso after this fight we should make new londo a fortress with how often it's attacked
OH SHIT WE FORGOT ABOUT ASH LAKE!Are the enemies aware ash lake is there/ it belongs to giants?
>Turn 6(Ambush team recalled! Arrival in 1 turn)(Moving catapult at New Londo! 2 turns left)(Reinforcements en route! All slingers, Elmagh, 3 clerics, 5 halberdiers and 4 javelin throwers returning to New Londo! 2 turns until arrival)The giant ballista, having been on fire for a while, burns to a crisp and falls apart, thus ending its reign of terror over the battlefield. Your catapult, on the other hand, is in perfect working condition and fires a well-placed shot to the fortress. As forces retreat to reinforce New Londo, the other troops push forward. On the Lava Team side, Balgmar pushes furiously forward, slaying two spearmen. The remaining zweihander on the Lava Team side follows the lead of his Stronk Team counterpart and runs up the wall, swinging wildly to great effect and killing 4 archers. A halberdier takes the other side, and between the two of them they manage to kill everyone else on the wall. On the Stronk Team side, the zweihander, seeing as how these unfortunate archers are like fish in a barrel at this point, continues mowing down archers until there are none left, leaving only the infantry troops below. The remaining halberdiers that didn't retreat begin another charge, skewering 4 spearmen,. Gough and Armaaga take out a spearman each, and the rest are able to clear the room, although two clubsmen and a halberdier are wounded in the chaos. They break through to the next room, where 9 horsemen and 10 spearmen awaited them. The horsemen charge on sight, managing to circle behind and then skewer and kill a poor defender, although the steel halberdier quickly intercepts him afterward.In New Londo, Strengar is growing nervous at the numerous torches. He could make out catapults, at least three of them, and four phalanxes of fighters, plus whatever else the darkness holds. 11 giants couldn't hope to stop that...he prayed to Lava Mama for the reinforcements' swift arrival and to Stronk Dad to remain stronk.ALL BALLISTAS DESTROYEDFORTRESS INTEGRITY: 32%TOWN DEFENSE OF AMBERLY FORTRESS DROPPED FROM 4 TO 2(Lava Team military strength: 18 (1 acolyte, 1 cleric, 2 halberdiers, 1 slinger, Shaman Wor wounded. 1 maceman, 1 zweihander killed.)(Stronk Team military strength: 31 (3 clubsmen, 1 halberdier wounded, 1 bronze defender killed)(Defense team military strength: 11)(Amberly Fortress military strength: 19, 10 spearmen, 9 horsemen left)
>>267856Take one last turn to raze the town. How many civilians?
You have been visited by the god of dubs. Good rolls and bonuses will come to you, but only if you comment "thank mr stronk" on this post.
>>267865thank mr stronk
>>267865Th-thank you mr.stronk
>>267865thank mr stronk>well played OP
>>267864Roughly 120. 100 halflings, 20 humans. Also, there is a salt mine nearby, which is probably why Brylon wanted this stinkhole so badly.
>>267864agreed, this might divert some of their forces or demoralize them
>>267876Five out of six of the villagers are halflings? I suppose that the violent removal of them wouldn't hurt our image with human nations that much. Do away with them and Amberly so we can move on to New Londo.
Take as many hostages as possible upon leaving and use them as a bartering chip to see if we can hand them over in exchange for them leaving for nowWe should try to Compleatly remove any possibility of resistance upon return (as soon as possible)If we have any troops in ash lake can they flank this army?
>>267891i like this hostages idea actually. let's set a fire in the village and bring some hostages to the fortress
>>267894>>267891I like the hostage idea too. How about give them ALL the humans? From New Londo and Amberly in exchange for the land west of New Londo and Ash Lake!
>>267894And if they still attack later release some prisonersThey will return and spread word of both the might of the giants and the tyranny of the human armyTroops from ash lake southTroops from anor londo & allies westTroops from new londo southA lake to the eastThis could be a perfect entrapment of this army if we have forces at those locations
>Turn 7The Lava Team manages to break through to the other side, and join the Stronk Team in doing a pincer attack to box in the horsemen and finish off the spearmen! Additionally, your catapult launches a volley at the fortress, bringing it toppling down! Your giants then get to work at setting the town aflame, killing any and all villagers. No one was left alive, save a select few of the most valiant human warriors to make the pilgrimage. Now, with New Londo in danger, they decide they need to get back there, NOW. They tend to the wounded and then get moving.Strengar is relieved to see the ambush team back and in one piece. Now if the other reinforcements could get here, the giants might stand a better chance.(1 turn until catapult moved)(1 turn until the first wave of reinforcements)(3 turns until Team Lava and Team Stronk arrive)(1 turn until the Estgaard army arrives)Additionally, due to divine fortune, Elmagh can cast another major spells! Thank mr stronk(Lava Team military strength: 18 (1 acolyte, 1 cleric, 2 halberdiers, 1 slinger, Shaman Wor wounded. 1 maceman, 1 zweihander killed.)(Stronk Team military strength: 31 (3 clubsmen, 1 halberdier wounded, 1 bronze defender killed)(Defense team military strength: 22)(Brylon Army military strength: ???)
>>267914Shit, due to divine fortune you set fire to the town, DON'T kill everyone, and take as many as you can as hostages. :)
>>267923Hahaha thank mr stronk
when we can we may wanna give our allies some major thanks(iron, jems,stuff like that) every time we're in a jam they send us help and they never ask for anything in return
If this hostage idea doesn't go well, then Elmagh must cast Eruption near as many of the catapults and troops as she can. The other clerics should come together to cast Minor Stronk Shield on the town too!
>Turn 8:(2 turns until Team Lava and Team Stronk arrive with the hostages)Strengar is relieved to see the first wave of reinforcements sneak in through the south gate, but as dawn arises he sees that what's at the north gate is nothing but trouble. Four catapults, two phalanxes of 40 iron swordsmen each, two phalanxes of 40 iron spearmen each, 20 horsemen, and 50 archers. To make it worse, there are ten pegasus riders - lightly armored but extremely nimble, and the first flying foe the giants have had to face. If hostage negotiations don't go well, this will be tough. (244 military strength total)(Giants' military strength: 46)
>>268031We should get Strengar or someone to parley with their leader once our guys arrive. Send an envoy to Koggarach just in case.I'm calling it a night good luck and praise Stronk.
>Turn 9:(1 turn until Team Lava and Team Stronk arrive with the hostages)[Divine Fire Magic: Eruption]In an effort to buy time, Elmagh prays fervently to unleash the full strength of Lava Mama upon the enemies. The ground raises slightly due to pressure before erupting violently with a burst of lava, hot rock, and superheated gas. Two of the four catapults are completely destroyed, and the other three are now ablaze and severely damaged. The catapult mounted to the wall fires and destroys another one, leaving two. Before long the earth grows cool and nothing is left but a crater between the second and third catapult.The remaining catapults fire upon the wall, tearing huge chunks out of it. However, it still stands. It can't take much more abuse like that though. (New Londo town defense reduced from 5 to 4)As the infantry advances, the pegasus knights charge, skewering one slinger, wounding another slinger and then wounding a javelin thrower. The javelin throwers fire back in the name of Koggarach, and knock a rider off his mount and to his doom. Slingers find that due to the forces of gravity being against them, the lobbed trajectory of their rocks makes it difficult to hit the pegasus riders, and the pegasus riders' bobbing and weaving amongst friendly troops makes it difficult to target them with a cleric's explosion spell. The rest of the melee troops can barely even hit them. The halberdiers, with their reach, have better luck, killing one, but they're just too quick for anyone else to hit. Where are Gough and Armaaga when you need them... The pegasus riders move out of the way just long enough for the archers to fire a volley which wounds a slinger. The clerics fire a barrage of explosion spells in return, killing 7 archers and blowing back many more. The rest of the troops continue their slow advance forward.CATAPULT 1 HP: 62% (burning!)CATAPULT 2 HP: 0%CATAPULT 3 HP: 0%CATAPULT 4 HP: 76% (burning!)(Giants' military strength: 42 (2 slingers wounded, 1 allied javelin thrower wounded, 1 slinger killed)(Estgaard Armed Forces military strength: 235)
>Turn 10:Team Stronk and Team Lava finally arrive with the hostages, and not a minute too soon. The humans, seeing all their captive people, agree to parley for their release, as the giants threaten to kill all the hostages if the army does not comply.So here's your homework: You're still licking your wounds from Amberly and now Brylon's throwing you a surprise attack that threatens to overrun the city. How would you negotiate your way out of this? Would you press the advantage? Take your chances? Play it safe?
Either way negotiations will continue tomorrow afternoon because I need sleep. Stay stronk!
>>268031Oh my god, that game. I love it so much.But Florina sucks unless you get her to a really high level. Then there's that level with the ballista...
>>268115 Negotiations will only postpone the inevitable, we waged war, and we either commit to it, or lose everything because we've gotten desperate in the face of an actual challenge. The king clearly already showed that we aren't going to be left alone. I vote for primal carnage, all melee units rally and devastate ground units. Slingers, acolytes, and javelin throwers focus on any enemy units organizing.
>>268397Our peg knight in most FE series is fine Florina a bit weak early but beast late game, on the other hand enemy peg knight is complete joke.>>268555Just try too bluff negotiating try too buy time until reinforcement arrives then attack them
If war wearyness is a thing in this game our troops have it, we just broke a city and had our team run back and forth We should try to hold this off untill the latest possible.And now that we know what they can field we can plan for it.>we have them walk into a 4 way defensive trap While they are at the city we have a stationed force in ash lake, anor londo and koggarach circle from all sides. New Londos north is essentially surroundedImplying this is a day or 2 in the future so we can implement this idea
>>268587All of our reinforcements are in New Londo. No more help is coming.>>268555Not necessarily. The goal in destroying Amberly was to get rid of the humans in the area so that the Giants could rule the region.We can still do that.The human slaves so far haven't given us a boost in resource gathering or anything. But their lives are valuable enough to the King to get what we want. Parley: trade the land south and west of Ash Lake/New Londo for the humans' lives AND declare that when the time comes, the Giants will help the humans against the orcs. We only want the land needed to regrow our Stronk Tribe, not genocide. Unlike the orcs...
>>268688i like that second plan, unite under a common enemy and such
>>268688Wasn't the entire point that Amberly was mostly halflings? I don't think the King will really care as we seen in the previous communication. He didn't care about population of New Londo and he won't care about the 20 humans. At most we could try to use the fact that Amberly has Salt.If we could negotiate with his generals or something like that it's another thing though.
>>268820We could offer a deal with the humans? They don't want to lose that big ass army and we don't want to keep the fighting going. We got what we want, we can just try to negotiate peace, stating we are willing to have peace and trade if they are willing.But we will only attack if attacked, that said if the humans run the change of completely crumbling under the orcs we will assissit if need.
>>269128I don't think it's that big? I mean they still have lightning mage and some more champions probably.Also the king arleady refused the peace when we took New Londo. The most we could probably get out is a temporary truce. Another thing is that even if we fight orcs with them what's stopping them from just crushing us after they conquer the orcs?I'm all for peace with them but with the current human king it will be pretty difficult.
>>269145I wouldn't assume it's their biggest in the land but with all those iron weapons, armor and other things it would be a pretty big economical loss of we killed and striped all of them.But that's if we can win, with the wizard and I'm sure some kind of competent General and officers this wouldn't be as easy as our last fights.so I think it would be a right choice to make a weak peace untill we can rebuild our numbers and reinforces our walls with stone or we can kill them all, take the iron and make super soldiers.
>>269186Well it's not like we will lose anything trying to negotiate so might as well try to get something favorable. If that doesn't work I think we should just fight them and win. We will probably lose a lot of troops but if we win the humans probably will realize that they can't win war on two fronts that easily.And if the enemy army dies we could try to incorporate humans from New Londo into the army because if we win battle with 1:3 odds they will realize we are actually strong.
>>269227>Well it's not like we will lose anything trying to negotiate so might as well try to get something favorable+1 no one else needs to die today. Plus the human generals would be walking with all those lives saved. They get to go home as heroes and champion negotiators, the humans get to go home, and Giants get to keep their hard-fought land. Everybody wins!
>>268115We have a good chance of victory, even with the odds we have. Our heroes are good and I think Amagga and Gough would make quick work of those Pegasus riders. We should try to negotiate, it doesn't hurt to try. But our negotiations should be all our nothing. Something along the lines of complete Alliancs with a pledge to ending all agresion
>>269439Also can Shaman Wor fight? If nonnegotians work, his defense and healing spells will be crucialOn a unrelated note we should try to capture the Dragon alive to tame it. After all it is a news of Lava Mama and Stronk Dads domain. Imagine having our fire priest ride a fire breathing beast into battle?
>>269439Fully agree. We should think of some tactics if the negotations fail though.>>269470We don't really know if the dragon is intelligent or not. If we kill the dragon we can probably try to make some good armor and his blood may be useful for potions and stuff like that.
>>269439>Our heroes are good and I think Amagga and Gough would make quick work of those Pegasus riders.+1>But our negotiations should be all our nothing. Something along the lines of complete Alliancs with a pledge to ending all agresion+1>>269497>>>269439>Fully agree. We should think of some tactics if the negotations fail though.+1>>269470>can Shaman Wor fight? He's wounded so no :(>On a unrelated note we should try to capture the Dragon alive to tame it. After all it is a news of Lava Mama and Stronk Dads domain. Imagine having our fire priest ride a fire breathing beast into battle?+1
>We could use that item the elvs have been trying to sell to us to tame the dragon, and if I recall dragons have huge stockpiles or rare metals and gems we can use for armor n stuff+1>We need to remember to gather the items from amberly afterwardsMaybe send non combatants to get tha stuff?
>>269643You mean the centaurs and the totem of taming beasts? You would think they tried that.Depending on what happens during negotiations or battle we might just want to move some of our population to Amberly and live there.
>>269648We set Amberley on fire.
>>269655Why did we do that again?
>>269660Cause the king promised death and assaulted us after we proposed peace.
>>269702But we could have just taken it over?
>>269707We've no use for it. We planned to destroy it then scavenge supplies for a new settlement.
>>269732The salt would have been really useful both for preservation and trade though and Amberly already has walls.
>>269833Amberly was constructed for Humans and Halfings. I do not think that the fort could've served us as well.
>>269848I guess, but still we should probably try to maybe at least make small outpost at the remains of Amberly to get salt.
>>269875Most def. Also we couldn't hold Amberly cuz we didn't have enough troops to physically defend 4 settlements (once you include AL, NL, Ash Lake, and Amberly)
>>269934Ok, that makes sense sorry. I guess they could easily retake it if we left buildings intact.After the negotiations/battle let's try to interrogate someone or try to salvage a map or something similar to actually know how big the human empire is.
>>269947Yeah exactly :/I sometimes wonder how things would have played out if we traded with the humans of New Londo (formerly Welsten) instead of attacked them. A trade or a raid, such divergent paths...
>>270079Don't think about that, the kings a dick and probably would have tried to eliminate our glorious race Forcing himself to beleive any non humans must be working with orcs
Back, lemme process
>>270517I think he was mostly pissed because we captured one of his villages.And then had nerve to ask for another one.I mean in that situation we would have probably done same thing.
>>270529Whoops, forgot my trip. Anyway...>Parley and negotiationsUpon seeing the captives, the enemy commander, a pegasus knight, sees the prisoners. "ALL TROOPS! HALT ADVANCE! HOSTAGES SIGHTED!" He, along with the rest of the surviving pegasus riders, halt the attack in order to parley. The enemy retreats and re-enters its initial formation, putting out the fires on the catapults and reforming their ranks. The commanding officer rides forward. "We see you have taken Amberly and have prisoners, and therefore we will accept your request to parley. We ask for all of your captive humans and hostages. In return, we will halt our attack and we will agree to a temporary cease-fire. If you refuse, then my army will follow its orders and we will free the prisoners ourselves. What say you?"
>>270632> "Get outta ma swamp"
>>270632Is there no way for permanent cease-fire?
>>270639There may be, if you play your cards right.
>>270647I wanted to literally ask that to their commander.
>>27063610/10 keksI as long as we don't have to give up our slaves I think we should accept.We also should try to have a sitdown with the enemy commander and explane the situation the king laid out and why we attacked.>now that we are free of pesky human villages we no longer need to be at war we just needed Lebensraum
>>270632We'll let the majority of the prisoners including all the humans go if the army withdraws from New Londo and the surrounding area.>>270639How would that work? A general shouldn't have the authority to decide diplomatic decisions by himself. He would probably be executed by the King if he did.
>>270658"You may surrender Welsten. Our king places great significance on this land and its return may please him enough to end this war. If not, we will have to force you to, and even if we are to lose in battle, more will come."
>>270700Welsten is New Londo right?
>>270707Yeah, it's the name of the village before the giants took it.
We should create some kind of explosive so if the city ever gets lost we can blow it up from a distance>we'll never surrender NEW LONDO
>>270710"Is it possible for us to keep Welsten but in return, we will participate in your wars against orcs and of course free all the human population? We would also send you half the salt from the mines near Amberly."
>>270700>>270658>>270682"However, I will order my army to retreat in exchange for the prisoners like we previously discussed. I cannot promise the same for my kin, however."
Give him the prisoners. It will make him leave for now while we can build up for the next human incursion. This is also interesting that the Humans are so willing to send this many troops considering they're fighting a war on two front between us and the orcs.
>>270760They will come again though. And if we crush them now they will realize they won't be able to fight on two fronts, before they were probably underestimating us.
>>270727"We hold the line against the orcish scum, despite what the commoners would have you believe. Your assistance is unnecessary. I will speak to my liege about the salt arrangements, but first you must let my people go."
>>270775"We can give the hostages from Amberly in exchange for the ceasefire and retreat. The fate of the people of New Londo will be decided at the negotiating table, not on the battlefield."
>>270774I don't think we are in the best position to deal with them right now. Last time they brought lightning spells and now they bring Pegasus Knights. We should eventually counter that by doing something like train our own archer corps.
>>270794+1I have a feeling this will bite in the arse later though.
>>270810If they leave now, they can save the lives of the people of New Londo. If they advance, they definitely can't.
>>270825Ye but this option pretty much can change perception of our nation in the eyes of the human empire.If we give them hostage they can see us as beings that can be negotiated with or as weaklings that want peace.If we don't they could see us as powerful or bloodthirsty.That's the part I'm negative about.
>>270825If we could do something like trade half the hostages now, and the other half later to ensure that we can actually have negotiations maybe that would be a good balance. Just something to show that we aren't pushovers.
>>270794The pegasus general pauses to think for a second. "I accept, but only on the terms that you free the slaves and let them make their own decisions. Anyone who wishes to leave Welsten must be allowed to do so. Those who wish to stay may do so."
>>270845That's what I'm trying to do. The prisoners from Amberly are the first half. The slaves of New Londo are the second half.
>>270851Welp if we agree on this it's likely they will just brand those who stayed as traitors and just bombard the fucking city or something like that.
>>270851"If the cease-fire is guaranteed I agree to your terms. The people of Welsten will be free to stay or go. I'm sure you have heard of the great housing and fine ale we provide to them. I shall refer to my Council of War for their consensus. See you in five."
>>270858I think it's a pretty good deal. They're acknowledging that we haven't been huge dicks to the humans we've kept around. We've installed one as mayor, for example. Their spies probably took note.
>>270872At least let's ask for some disarmed human troops to remain or something like that so they don't bombard the city or some other guarantee.
>>270872Let's be honest most humans will probably leave and then the only card left we have is New Londo that they can attack. And they can just ignore the ceasefire or say it's just for a season or a year. Or just ignore it altogether. After all history is written by the victors.
>>270879If they break the ceasfire and bombard the city later we can destroy the buildings and salt the earth. They can have their city...IN ASHES!
>>270913Most will. But the ones who stay will make all the difference in the world.
>>270922But they wouldn't care about the buildings I feel that's the thing. They didn't bombard us before because it was full of humans.The problem they have is us blocking their major road connecting north cities to the south ones.
>>270922Let's just ask him about a guarantee they won't attack.
>>270856"Then we agree to a cease-fire of no less than one year. On my honor as a Knight of the White Rose, I will see to it that this is carried out."
>>271017nevermind, sorry i misread the original post
>>270998There is never a guaranteeEspecially if there aren't any humans in here that may get killed in fighting.If we let loose our entire population there'd be nothing stopping them from attackingI wonder if there's some way to do a duel between the chief and the enemy commanderWho isint a hero but is a general>wish we had a human who was trained in fighting
>>271006So we keep the human slaves in New Londo or are we giving them freedom of choice? Honestly can't tell.>>271017I think they would like to avenge their fallen soldiers but we will see what happens.
>>271025Give them freedom of choice unless you wish to change your mind. The general undoes his cloak and indeed shows that he is a white rose knight and introduces himself as Sir Guilford Raynes, Terror of the Sky and General of the Estgaard Armed Forces.
>>271025They become able to stay in the city or leave as they choose.
>>271048"Can you give us any sort guarantee that we can negotiate about the future of Welsten instead of it ending on the ceasefire?"
this entire year we need to make new londo the most giant fortress possible>stockpiles>moats>traps>tons of catapults and ballistas>net troops for those pegisi
>>271070We should just train more Giants to use great bows like Gough. They essentially carry the impact of a small ballista. The same might go for catapults. Acolytes and Clerics of Lava Mama can shoot projectiles at the enemy from afar and better yet they can move and react much more quickly. I agree with fortifying New Londo in general though.
>>271070Fully agree.>>271087What about trying to research crossbows? Basically making smaller handheld ballistas.And we could definitly use more Acolytes and Clerics.
>>271087Good point scratch the catapults, unless we have a good number of humans who stay. If they stay they should be granted equality and thusly used in the military, that'd be the best thing they could use.
>>271070>>271087>>271103+1 I agree building the military is a given. We may also need to consider a way to give them a reason not to attack us in a year. notice they have a huge army and as the general said there are many more to replace them.
>>271066"That will remain up to our king. I can assure you that, as I am in command of the Estgaard Armed Forces, you have my word, but even though Estgaard bears some autonomy as a protectorate its hand can still be forced. However, as Estgaard is a major producer of ore for Brylon, our politicians have a seat at the ruling table. We will do our best to keep the others in check and ensure that you have a proper audience with King Halios."
>>271127Ok, I'm all for accepting his terms.
>>271122Maybe let's try to get some more allies too during the ceasefire.Probably dealing with the dragon for centaurs and checking out the mushroom people.
fuck this, just pretend too agree when they lower their guard and retreat kill them all
>>271149As much as these roaches deserve it we should hold off for now. Take the time to build our defenses of New Londo and to come up with new ways to counter what the enemy might throw at us.
>>271140+1>>271127"We agree. now get outta our swamp"
>>271127I really like this general guy>implying he's not lying straght to our face and gonna attack as soon as the hostages are safe...
>>271136"Then it is decided. All men, fall back! We're headed to Estgaard!" As requested, you turn over the hostages, and pledge to let the humans decide whether they should stay or go. The army then makes for the north, and is eventually out of sight without any further incident.Victory!(This is gonna be one hell of a crunch, sit tight while I figure this out)
>>271160I mean that outcome isn't as bad as>general wasn't lying but he's forced by the king to fight us>we have to kill a honorable man that tried to give us a chance
>(This is gonna be one hell of a crunch, sit tight while I figure this out)Good luck OP
>>271255What's the crunch If its the amount of citizens to release just roll a die with the number of humans we have
>>271278I don't master the game that's what the game master does
>Spoils of War: 31 iron swords16 iron bucklers22 bronze shortspears32 suits of human iron heavy armor (still does not fit)12 suits of human iron lamellar armor (nope)42 suits of human bronze heavy armor (no way)10 suits of human bronze lamellar armor (not happenin' man)16 shortbows1846 gold52 wood40 stone35 bags of salt>Casualties: 4 (iron zweihander, slinger, bronze defender, obsidian maceman)>Wounded: 1 acolyte, 1 halberdier, 2 clubsmen (Recovery in 1 turn)1 halberdier, 1 cleric, 1 clubsman, 1 slinger, Shaman Wor (Recovery in 2 turns)1 slinger (Recovery in 3 turns)2 icons of faith8 candidates for the Pilgrimage>Pilgrimage Candidates (select 5 to take the Pilgrimage to the Sanctuary of Lava Mama):1 pegasus rider, 1 spearman, 1 siege engineer, 1 archer (chance of survival: low)2 swordsmen, 1 archer (chance of survival: medium)
>>271278Crunch is all the rolls I have to do to determine your stuff you get, and then updating the pastebin with everything
>>2714141 pegasus rider, 1 spearman, 1 siege engineer(chance of survival: low)1 swordsman, 1 archer (chance of survival: medium)for pilgrimage.Let's offer all the bronze shit to Lava Mama.
>>271421+1 let's do it all.
Rolled 61 (1d90)Here's how many humans leave. Birth rates will probably be accepted as well.
>>271427Birth rates will be decreased*61 humans leave, happy to enjoy their freedom. However, some are either too attached to their homes or somehow benefit from staying in giant lands. 29 humans stay, 15 in New Londo and 14 in Ash Lake.
>>2714141 pegasus rider, 1 spearman2 swordsmen, 1 archerSmelt all the iron equipment we've seized, it will be useful in equipping our army. Do the same with the bronze armor and weapons and offer them to Lava Mama in order to train more priestesses and to gain favor.
>>271461We could learn something from the siege engineer.Also let's leave atleast some armor and weapons if any humans will want to join the army or just the militia.
>>271414How about the human weapon is it also too small for giant ?
>>271470Yeah, and the swords are actually shortswords like the ones you've been getting. The giants can still wield them, it's just that their weapons are a lot smaller and do less damage than yours do. It probably wouldn't be good to use them except in a pinch or as part of a plan.
>>271469The iron can go to constructing and training more giant Halberds which is arguably more effective then several humans as seen from our previous engagements with the kingdom of Brylon.
>>271494lets melt all weapon and armor then
>>271501Fair enough. If someone wants to join though lets give them a chance though.
>>271501>>271522+1 if they volunteer too become town guard or milita just give them a set of weapon and armor
>>271541We could honestly try to experiment with them and make them be like mounted units or some type of troops we don't have yet.
So while I'm still updating the pastebin what should the giants do next turn?
>>271555Maybe even try set up a giant-human buddy system, have the power of the giants and the smaller size of the humans at the ready. Also furthers race relations
>>271555Im not sure we have enuf number too form human squadromWe only have 29 human, half of them maybe are woman, children and elder.For mounted unit we can train our bear and use totem too lure more, or gain centaur favor.
>>271576Wor continues training his apprentice.Train some zweihander and halberd troops.Try to research handheld ballistas.Ask Wilbur to talk with the remaining humans - what's their expertise, do they have any big needs.
>>271576Have human siege engineer and strengar implement ballista tech for our great giant bow.
>>271576Smelt the enemy weapons and armor. If we ever need to we can just make more armor for some sort of human militia even though I am against the ideaSacrifice a lot of the bronze to Lava Mama to gain favor. We should learn about stronger magic that has better effective distanceBegin a remodeling of New Londo to make it more fortified Construct weapons including Iron Halberds and Bows. In due time we will have archers to swat any Pegasus knights or dragons that bother us.
Rolled 97, 61, 33, 7, 77 = 275 (5d100)Rolling to see if the humans survive the pilgrimage - 70 or better is needed for those with a low probability of survival, 50 for a medium chance and 30 for a high chance. Order is as follows: Pegasus rider, spearman, siege engineer (low), swordsman, archer (medium)
>>271414Don't forget we should burn the icons of faith and throw the bodies in the volcano. We should also send a task force to look at that Dragon and at the Mushroom people.Is 1846 gold silver coins ?
2nd of Wetha4 turns until HothaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(Free Action) The First PilgrimageIt was a long and tough battle, but victory was achieved. According to the principles of the Pilgrimage, the clerics and acolytes must gather the corpses of the nearly dead and carry them to the Sanctuary of Lava Mama. The clerics and acolytes, along with a funeral procession for the fallen giant warriors, crosses mountain, valley and crag to reach the Sanctuary, where the dead are sent off to become one with Lava Mama and the monks of the Temple assess the status of the humans brought on the pilgrimage. A pegasus rider, spearman, and an archer survives the trek and are fully healed by the monks, but the siege engineer and swordsman unfortunately succumb to their wounds. The surviving humans, having learned the truth of Lava Mama and Stronk Dad, endeavor to serve the giants in any way they can in the name of Lava and Stronk. (1 human pegasus rider (spearman until you find him a mount), 1 human swordsman and 1 human archer join the military! Gear from the loot pile equipped appropriately.)>(Free Action) Checking in with WilburYou ask Wilbur about the status of the village, including who's left, what abilities they have, etc. "Well shoot, looks like ya got yerself nothin' but a few old folks, some craftsmen, a few brats and some nice-lookin' ladies. Not a one of these guys looks like he can figure out what side's the pointy end of the sword though. Oh yeah, looks like you got another love letter." Gough picks up the tiny letter, which is written in furious scribbles compared to the first letter received. "DEAR MOTHERFUCKING MONGREL BEASTS:I WILL HAVE YOU AT THE THROAT SO HELP ME STRONK! YOU RAZED AMBERLY AND NOW YOU HAVE ESTGAARD IN YOUR LAP? FINE, YOU ARE HEREBY INVITED TO MY COURT ON THE THIRD OF HOTHA. IF YOU INBRED FOOLS WISH TO FOUL UP MY AUDIENCE CHAMBER, YOU MAY DO IT THEN. SINCERELY,HALIOS"What does he mean by "so help me Stronk"? Mighty Stronk Dad does not favor the puny humans.>Smelting bars and gaining favorIn an activity that has become a sort of post-battle ritual, the giants melt the weapons and armor of the humans in a giant vat and pour them into bars. The result is a total of 83 iron bars and 116 bronze bars. The bronze bars are then sacrificed to Lava Mama, who rewards you with 580 favor (5 per bronze bar).>Handheld ballistas?Wow, those ballistas sure were nice, but they look way too bulky and cumbersome to carry around the battlefield. They first start to research any remnants of ballista parts in the Amberly ruins, and then draw some designs based on the knowledge of siege equipment they already have. Now the problem is getting it down to a managable size....(Progress: 1/5)(cont'd)
>Rebuilding and remodeling in New LondoThe giants in New Londo, seeing as how it's pretty much the primary target of Brylon right now, get to work rebuilding the damaged walls and reinforcing the existing ones. >EVENTS: Koggarach has come for the swatrock tournament! Though they are a bit disappointed that the first one was cancelled, they celebrate your victory nonetheless. This time, they bring 3 javelin throwers and ask that you wager 3 javelin throwers of your own. Do you accept?-While the human dwellings have been much less crowded as of late, the giant dwellings are overflowing in Anor Londo and New Londo! They're migrating to Ash Lake, which still has quite a bit of housing left, but that'll get overwhelmed eventually too.-The cease-fire has gone into effect! It will expire on the first of Hotha during Year 3. Brylon will be preparing, so should you!
I-is the king a giant...> reaserch old giant lore & see if a giant was ever expelled for any reason>reaserch nets & lightning rods?>go make those berrys into an orchard >bump new Londos def upShould we trust the king not to kill our ambassador> send gift to that knight for staying true to his word.If we can keep that army/ city off us that's a huge load off
>>271873Start researching full plate armor
>>271873Well the stakes are pretty high. What do you guys think?I think we should use all of our current materials to build up more halberdiers, hammermen and ziewiendersWe should try to tame/kill that dragon and explore that mushroom island .The Centaurs and mushroom people could prove to be valuable allies >Bro we should turn Amberly into a full fledged Military Academy Fortress and call it Stronk Fort
>>271859We could have the giants have a shoulder mounted ballista like the men in battle realms LOL
>>271853Yeah, not sure why I keep doing that. Silver coins are the default and only currency in this quest.>>271888Most badass thing I've seen all day.
>>271873Accept the offerI highly suggest to make a group of archers. The crossbows will not be ready in time the cease fire ends and we need better ranged units to deal with Pegasus Knights. We already possess the crafting skills for it and bows have a greater range then a crossbow and with proper training has a greater rate of fire.Have Gough venture forth and slay the dragon in centaur territory. Not so much to help the centaurs since I still despise them but it will increase the prestige of Gough and make us a greater force to be reckoned with.Construct more iron Halberds
>>271873Research nets, long spears and handheld ballistas.continue rebuilding New londo and add extra giant housing too.
>>271887I agree. But let's make sure we keep researching hand balistas.
>>271897I think we can send 4 hero units against the dragon and we probably should. Well unless we want to tame it.
>>271907I'm on edge on wether we should tame it our kill it. It would go along with the dark souls theme if Gough kills the dragon but since it has fire it might be seen as a sacred beast to Lava Mama and be useful. I guess it just depends on wether or not it's large enough for Giants to ride.
>>271873I'm sure we are supposed to have 2673 silver coins because we also got 750 from trading ale with the Centaurs
>>271916Boy oh boy I'm sure a dragon is big enough for a giant to ride.
Kill or tame it The bounty form it's body scales, claws, teeth, blood And the stockpile items the dragon has collected may even be worth a hero, since a giant clad in dragon scale armor would be a wreaking ball
We should research tactics and army formation, stuff like phalanx will be good.
>>271916I honestly dig turning it into armor and weapons and shit like that for our champions.
>>271897The crossbows will be ready, we have a little bit more than a year for the war preparations
TIP: Unit Types and WeaknessesAs you may have noted in the military and heroes section, certain weapons and weapon types deal bonus damage against certain other unit types. For example, siege weapons such as catapults (with the default shot) are effective against walls and fortresses but not so much against ground units (and even less against aerial units). Bows (especially Gough's) are effective against aerial units, and halberds are effective against both aerial units and cavalry. Axes are good against units with shields, and maces and hammers are good against heavily armored units. Divine fire magic is good against wooden objects such as most siege equipment, and two-handed swords like Fragarach and zweihanders deal extra damage against light-armor units. Additional strengths and weaknesses will be revealed as you encounter different unit types.
>>271916Well think of it like this>We bring a large number of iron/mythril shield defenders>They shield from the flame>The Giant Blacksmith Makes specialty net arrows for Cough and Amaggra>Shaman Wor makes specialty Stunning/ Tranquilizing arrows and darts with magic and alchemy >Fire Priestess and Clerics can try to gain favor of dragon though lava mama>Shaman Wor can maybe try some animal magic>Profit???
>>271928The crossbows will take 4 more turns to be done. The seize fire lasts for another three turns. We could construct Bows and arrows in this time and train archers.>>271920Still depends on the size and dimensions of the dragon. There's also the possibility that Dragons can be seen as servants to Lava Mama and having our warriors ride them which I really like or if dragons are seen as a deviation and curse to Lava Mama.
>>271942i vote we have some sort of scholar such as wor or his apprentice look more into dragons and more specifically the one we need and work from there trying to gain its favor or kill it whatever we mustalso when is the next turn OP?
>>271946Of year 3, this is year 2 if i am not mistaken? or at least the knight said there was going to be a truce no shorter than 1 year
>>271951well with our 2673 silver coins I say we buy the animal friendship totem and tune magic scroll from the Centaurs
>>271946Ceasefire was a year. We have audience with the king in seven turns
>>271946>>271954possibly get tht extended if we try and fight this dragon because if we tame it fucking dragon, if we kill it thats nuts king might respect that im sure it gives him some sort of grief
>>271960nice call, waiting until next turn to get caught up on all the details havent been that active the past few days
>>271954>>271964Aw shit I misread that. We do still have time until the crossbows are researched and the ceasefire ends. Granted I still argue that Bows are superior to crossbows.
Also we should resume research on ammunition and see if we can find some kind of ammo for our ballistas too
K caught up, updating now
>>271981We can have both.Just train archers until crossbowman are researched.I think crossbows have faster projectile speed than bows which will be good against flying units but I may be tottaly talking out of my ass.
Rolled 32, 77, 67, 9, 29, 32, 86, 61 = 393 (8d100)But first...swatrock time!You probably know the rules by now. I roll 8d100 and the highest team is the winner. Rolls go in this order: Your teams:>The Anor Londo Boulders>The New Londo Direbears>The Welsten Wasters>The Boulder Bashing Buddies (BBB)Koggarach's teams:>The Koggarach Worgs (best team)>The North Gargan Avalanches>The South Gargan Mad Yaks>The Welsten Valley Clobberers
>>271986OP am I right about the amount amount we have? And I saw it said we only have 1 Bronze bar under bars.
>>271990Disappointment! The South Gargan Mad Yaks, definitely the underdogs for the past couple tournaments, manage to turn their luck around and bring the Sir Gough's Cup and three of your javelin throwers back to Koggarach! Better luck next season!
>>271994By the way under ores we have 3 coal and 6 coal as separate entries, just saw that.
>>272003K thanks for helping me clean up, it tends to get this way after battles and we just had a big one.
>>272001Ah man that hurts our war effortMan I didn't even know we were betting troops. Why did we do that ?!?!?? They are are aliens and we need troops
Anyway writin update
>>272013Thank you OP for putting up with this....I don't know how you do it I've always wanted to do a quest like this but I would get so lost
So I'm confused. I know you guys want to go after the dragon but is there a clear consensus on whether you want to kill it or tame it? And if you do want to tame it, how do you propose doing that?
>>272063tame it . I proposed how in this post >>271942We should also buy that Animal Friendship Totem
>>272080Let's send all of our heroes along with all of our shield defenders and clerics/acolytes. I would even say we send all of our heavy troops as backup.Can our slingers and javelin throwers do anything against this beast?
>>272080Thing is you only get 4 units, anything more and the centaurs will detect you and kick you out because they have a closed-border policy and the dragon is inside their borders. So a four-person squad operation. I need to know who's going and what the strategy is if you would please.
>>272063The question is if the dragon is holy or not. Is it a avatar of Lava Mama on earth or is it an abomination that must be killed. The idea of having a giant fire breathing drake stead that can just swallow Pegasus does get my dick hard though
>>272080Also the price for the animal friendship totem is 20 barrels of mead. It'll probably take a few turns for you to make that much considering the average amount made per turn with an action devoted to it is about 10.
>>272104Red dragons are holy to Lava Mama as Her chosen amongst dragonkind. Green and black ones are okay, but those motherfucking blue ones...
Also is there sort of a generally known consensus about dragon intelligence?Is it like a intelligent beast or some sentient monster like Smaug?Not really worth trying to 'tame' something that's smart enough to formulate good escape plans.
I would honestly just leave the dragon thing until tomorrow so the anons from earlier timezones can give their opinion. They might have some good ideas.
>>272137The dragon isn't really going anywhere and we could also research stuff about dragons in the meantime like the other anon said.
>>272130In that case I'm all for taming the dragon if it's red.
>>272100Well then we should send Amagga, Gough, Wor and our Fire Priestess.Maybe see if we can outfit them with quality shieldsCan our Priestess cast anything close to fire protection?
>>272164Maybe that Fire Blessing would help us.
3rd of Wetha3 turns until HothaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->(Free Action) The king is a giant!?How does the king of Brylon know about Stronk Dad when everyone knows that Stronk Dad doesn't favor the puny humies? That's exactly what everyone who's read the letter is asking right now in Cewriland. The giants ask Wor, hands down the brightest scholar in the village, if he knows of any lore regarding an exiled giant. The only ones he can think of is...us. Did our religion spread or something? Maybe you could use this as a bargaining chip...>Making a no-fly zoneThose pegasi could really pack a punch! They could just fly over the walls and cause huge amounts of trouble, and having a whole army of those things come down on the giants would be BAD. The giants devise ways to bring it down, and come up with an idea: what if we were to tangle the horsey up and make it so that it can't fly? Then it'll fall like a sinking stone and that's one less problem. From leather strips to strands of rope, they try everything to make the perfect anti-pegasus net. (Progress: 1/2)>Bigger is better...except for ballistasThe giants continue trying to shrink down ballistas so that they don't take a giant and a half to haul around everywhere. They tried a prototype that was hauled on their backs, but the recoil shot them back about fifty feet. Back to the drawing board, I guess. (Progress: 2/5)>Finishing the fortifications and building some housesThe giants put the finishing touches on the new wall and then get right back to work, updating the shabby wooden housing in favor of stone dwellings like the ones in Ash Lake. This is a giant town now! (Progress: 1/3) (-10 stone)>What's that growing on those trees?Walking by the northern shores of Ash Lake, you notice a peculiar sight that you didn't really see before due to the winter snow...are those trees bearing fruit? You go to investigate and the fruit are apples! You can make a mighty fine pie with these. The giants get to making an orchard out of them right away! (Progress: 1/2)>EVENTS:-The wandering trader is in town! This season, he has 15 mithril bars for 500 silver coins and 15 steel bars for 500 silver coins as well. Also, he has another totem of defense for 1000 gold. This will add an extra layer of town defense, but you can only have one per town! Too good to pass up, right? What do you say?
>>272203Finish the young shamans training.Research ballistas.For the dragon, what color did they say it was? How much was the totem of animal friendship?
>>272203Oh and yes to trading for bars but idk about the totem
>>272230Totem of Animal Friendship is 20 mead. Prices on centaur shop items are towards the bottom of the pastebin for reference.Upon asking the centaurs at the post about the dragon, they tell you that it is a hulking beast the color of midnight. You're not sure if Lava Mama would like it or not, but as long as it's not one of those blue bastards She will probably not object.
Also I'm asked about learning phalanx tactics and all that. You guys have seen enough battles by now that you know how phalanxes, flanking, pincer attacks, etc. work, plus you've already implemented your own innovations with the defenders and the giant shields. So you're okay in that department, as long as it isn't impossibly hard you can probably get away with it :)
>>272239Oh OK thanksSo maybe the best technique for the dragon would be to use nets to pin it to the ground. We also need to worry about fire so I say bring mithril shields too. We should send Gough and three others equipped with hand ballistas and mithril shields and nets. If it's he color of midnight it could go either way. Most likely its a mean ol' black dragon or at worst a blue mf. Do the centaurs think the totem would work on the dragon?
Hand ballistas are gay. There's only one way to deal with a dragon.
>>272203Research ballistas and nets, continue construction of houses.
>>272251With a creature that big, you'd probably need more than one. Dire bears and worgs are one thing but these fuckers are BIG.
>>272267Okay sounds like we will:Research netsReinforce wallsResearch ballistas Accept tradeFor the last action: research shaman or make mead for trading the animal friendship totem?
>>272296So do you want to accept the WHOLE trade or just the steel and mithril?
>>272316Whole trade. Why not, you can't take silver with you to the stronklands when you die anyway right?
Lava mama has a temple in the mountains I propose we build statues of stronk dad in new londoIf this king is a follower of the true gods than he wouldent sack a town protected by him right?
>>272326+1+1>>272324>>272296 +1have our Blacksmith giant research making special mythril nets. Send our 4 heroes equipped with mythril shields and netsI also suggested we research stunning/tranuilizing darts as well as trap/net arrows for Amagga and Gough. Thoughts?
>>272347Also if you want to get into venomology and poisons bee keeping would be a great source of raw venom. We have all been stung by the Simple honey bee its venom causes fairly significant swelling and pain, now imagine what a dire hornet sting would feel like. I'd be willing to bet my left nut that there are dire hornets, even extremely rare mountain top demonic ice hornets if we looked hard enough.
>>272347yeah lets make some harpoon arrows for our ballistas so we can pull flying shit to the ground after we shoot it
4th of Wetha2 turns until HothaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->Thanks for the business!You part with 2000 silver coins and in return are given a totem of defense (can go in Anor Londo or Ash Lake, gives +1 to town defense), 15 mithril bars and 15 steel bars.>Net researchNow you know how to make nets of all kinds! Chain ones, rope ones, giant ones, tiny ones...these might have other applications as well. (New Tech: [Nets I])>Making progress on the housesGetting there but not quite. The giants will be pleased with the upgrade though. (Progress: 2/3)>Hand-ballistasWe're gonna need a new bowstring...or twenty. Still, progress continues. (Progress: 3/5)>Adventures in Shaman SchoolHe's finally getting it! Wor thinks his pupil may have finally found a way to stop killing things instead of healing them. Now if he could just do something about all the bugs he summoned with that last hex... (Progress: 3/5)>EVENTS: 2 more turns until Hotha! Are you prepared for your meeting with King Halios on the 3rd of the season?
>>272404prepared for the meeting with the king? Psh. Wonder if the King would wager the contested lands in a game of swat rock?
Build bows and train archers. By the time we have "hand ballistas" researched the cease fire will be over and then there's the issue of constructing them and training how to use themTrain 4 fire acolytes and 2 fire clericsMake the wall in New Londo 10 feet higherConstruct steel hammers and mithril armor in order to equip troops with itWhen is Goughs next child expected to be born?
>>272404finish houses, keep researching ballistas.
>>272420Summer 1, year 3K one more update but I gotta go to bed afterward
Also choose a city to get +1 defense: Anor Londo or Ash Lake
>>272426I say Ash Lake since it's closer to the potential frontline
5th of Wetha1 turns until HothaCewri Tribe Stats: (See http://pastebin.com/UgtRDe9f)--->Finishing the housesAll done! The giants eagerly move in to their new houses, and the giants of Anor Londo are glad they don't have to migrate that far. (New building in New Londo: Stone Dwellings (can house 75)>Steel hammers and mithril armorStrengar gets away from the bottle for a moment and he and the other blacksmiths craft 5 steel hammers and 5 mithril heavy armor. (+5 steel hammers, +5 mithril heavy armor)>Acolytes and ClericsTwo clerics and four acolytes are ordained and trained. Elmagh is pleased. (2 clerics, 4 acolytes trained)>Hand-ballistasFinally some headway! The giants think they have a good working prototype. It just needs a bit of testing and then it might be battle-ready. (Progress: 4/5)
Going to bed. See you tomorrow evening.Some things to think about until then:>What are you going to do about this dragon?-Should you tame it? Kill it? Something else?-What 4 people are you going to send to do the job? (This is a 4-man mission due to it being in centaur territory and large numbers will draw attention to the centaurs who will kick you out)-What is your plan? Regardless of whether you want to tame it or kill it, going in blind and hoping for the best will probably end badly.>Now that Amberly's gone, will you venture south and discover the secrets of the swamps?>What should our general game plan be when we meet the king? Peace for salt is the reason why you're allowed to have an audience with him in the first place, but do you really want to be his salt-mining slaves for a little extra security?>New thread tomorrow probably
>>272453Kill the dragon, we have limited time and knowledge about the dragon lets forget the taming ,doubt the dragon will bow too us.PartyGoughElmagh Wor+bear(count as 1 person)Balgmar Preparation planOrder Strengar too use our best material upgrade our hero armor and weapon also dont forget too give our bear some armor and extra metal claw too. Spend favor too further buff the hero equipment grant physical and fire resist or any beneficial blessing from gods.Buy summon lava elemental spell, if we need favor maybe we can use our gemstone 1 ruby, 3 emeralds, 5 sapphires or any valuable things.Create health pot and mana pot if we can.Fight planGough aim the dragon eye or any vital organ before combat begin act as regular archer when combat begin just keep distanceElmagh keep distance use group buff summon lava elemental too tank the dragon fire attack .Wor keep using buff group atk/def/heal and send bear too help tank the dragon.Balgmar Standby with two handed weapon and deliver massive strikes when opportunity present.
>>272453i do think we need more info on this dragon before we do anything, i wanna know about how big and what color maybe even layout of the surrounding area and suchalso think the secret in the swamp will help us deal with the dragon or the king eiter one is a plus so we should do thatand i think for salt some good trading and promise of dead dragon or we could get the king off our ass>>272642+1 on this team and outfitting then heavily would like more info on the giant thoughthink it could help to expand our minning operation to get all out giants in at least good iron armor or better
>>272642Agree with party composition.Agree with upgrading armor and weapons.We should try to improve Mass Minor Stronk Strength.Battle Plan would be something like Wor uses buffs, debuffs heals if needed.Elmagh casts Minor Stronk Strength for buffs.The problem lies with we don't know where it's lair is or like >>273074 said we don't know what colour it is. I bet that they have diffrent breaths depending on colour.If it's open area I guess Gough trying to shoot its wings so the dragon falls would be a good idea and then Balgmar can attack it with Fragrach.Might also be a good idea to give Balgmar the giant Milthril Shield so he can guard others from the breath attacks.Also ye expanded mine would be better.
> give humans small nets and begin catching fish in ash lake>build stronk temple in new londo>more walls in new londo>send a squad of giants to explore that mushroom island and the south> find those salt minesWe should keep 1 hero as an ambassador to the humans, anything less than that would be insulting and prompt more hatred
>>273074>>273091+1 to the party composition. We got nets, we should use them on the dragon. At least capture it. +1 to exploring swamp secrets.+1 to training the apprentice again. We need to figure out a plan for the king. If we bring Valdoth, Wor, Gough and Elmagh to the table we might have an advantage cuz they know hexes and fire magic and Gough is really intimidating.Pay a human to go into the kingdom and get info about the Stronk comment
>>273202think the stronk comment was meant to sarcastic possiblyalso send wilbur the smallest giant with them
>>273202We definitly need to bring Balgmar to the table. Since we know King is probably worshipper of Stronk, Stronk's champion with his own blade would pretty much show that we share the same faith.Also I just realized we don't have know where their capital is according to the map.>>273238Definitely sending Wilbur too, yeah.
>>273246+1>>273238>think the stronk comment was meant to sarcastic possibly>>272203(OP)>Did our religion spread or something? Maybe you could use this as a bargaining chip...
>>273091>>273074>>272642Ok i will add some more preparationVisit centaur ask them more about the dragon, whats the color ? how big is it ? etc Check swamp for helpfull things
We should at least try to tame the beasthave shaman wor and the blacksmith giant create specialty arrowstranquilizer arrowstemporary blindness arrowsfrost arrows(maybe to temporarily prevent fire breathing)harpoon arrows (fire a bunch around the dragon and tie it downnet arrows
So what will be our goal in negotiations? We should probably agree on it.Probably the first priority for us is keeping New Londo or peace? If it's possible do we want to be part of empire? Be allies?
>>273784No giant will ever kneel before puny humans
>>273828What if it's another giant though?
>>273784An end to hostilities and the recognition of the free state of Cewri lol we're Palestine now
>>273784We will never surrender the territory that is rightfully ours. The humans were not at all worthy of possessing New Londo which is why we took it and must hold on to it. We will not be associated with any sort of realm that is so grossly incompetent and lead by an ignorant ruler that insults us in such a condescending matter. Lava Mama forbid that we bow down to a kingdom that is not our own and commit actions that benefit Brylon more then us. Stronk bless the Cewri!
>>274144lmfao i agree but i just want peace and ability to deal with this dragon correctly so however that can happen
>>274171I'm kind of passive on the dragon. The centaurs described it as colored like the midnight sky which probably means it not a red dragon and more likely is a blue or maybe black one. If it was red I would say tame it right away but it can keep terrorizing centaurs as long as it's not bothering us and it's not red.
>>274225If we kill the dragon we could turn him into armor, weapons and probably some alchemical things. If we tame it we get a powerful mount.There could also be loot in his lair. We also improve our relations with the centaurs so we can learn rune magic to possibly make even better weapons.It would also be another piece on the negotiating table showing that we are powerful enough to kill a dragon.
>>274261but it takes a force even more skilled to tame such a powerful beast>Ride in from the sky to say tell the centaurs their won't be a problem with the staging anymore>they all collectively horseshit themselves>ride back to the human nation>torchthevillages.jpg>Fuck bitches>get money>easily explore the rest of the map>toast some yaks for lunch >profit????
>>274345>attack humans>they cast lightning bolt>fuck
>>274345I like you buddy
>>272453We should poison the Horse fuckers water supply but pretend we didn't do it and up the price of mead and fresh water to get some of that cash money
>>274461Even I disagree with this. We don't have to be backstabbers because that is just weak and feeble. We should just do what needs to be done here by subduing the dragon and just leave. Besides, how would they not notice a giant pouring something into a well.
>>274361>As if a motherfuckin dragon doesn't eat lightning for breakfast
>>274597still, underestimating the enemy is pretty stupid
>>274604I was joking. To put it more eloquently,To further the goals of the Gweri people we should aquire the Firebreathing beast as to aide us in defense of our nation and future wars>I know we arnt going in all guns 'n dicks if we want to attack a army or village. We will plan
>>274636>going in all guns 'n dicksSolid gold/10
>>274529Then just have a giant piss into a well and call it an accident DEATH TO THE HORSE NIGGERS!
>>275282Woah this isn't a Trump rally man simmer down
We should make a new thread for today this one has reached the bump limit
>>275404I'm pretty sure OP said he will make new thread when he's back today.
New thread up! Sorry about taking so long.>>276655