[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k] [cm / hm / y] [3 / adv / an / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / hc / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / po / pol / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / x] [rs] [status / ? / @] [Settings] [Home]
Board:  
Settings   Home
4chan
/qst/ - Quests


Your name is Hass Takar and you are stepping onto the steel corridors of a Consortium ship. The air, devoid of the comfortable humid, low air of a Jaxtian ship, is ever so slightly warmer and more arid. You find this whole situation very contrived. When could you ever end up on a ship wearing nothing but your underwear, with no backup, armed with only a knife?

You see your opponents now. Similarly nude, two Leraay crewmen, the cat-like species that make up the majority population of the Consortium, notice you a second later, approaching with knives drawn. It was once that those of your line, a noble family, would be experienced in Knife Dueling out of tradition. Now, it is more common among those of military aspiration. The once touted techniques and ritual have been phased out for a more standardized and clinical approach; you were fortunate enough to live through both eras, being born at the perfect time to witness the change from the current Supreme Ruler's choice regarding your race's long and noble traditions being put down in exchange for humility and egalitarian teaching. The “Eoba's Instep” and “Akule's Standing Execution” have been renamed to more practical things. The drawcut, the underhanded stab, the jugular cut-

But enough about that. It's time to put the techniques to use. You'll need them for a two on one encounter.
>>
The first cat appears slightly pudgy with thin limbs- the result of a sedentary lifestyle. He's slow and his feet are unsure under him, a simple dodge and slash will suffice for him. The second is stronger- with muscles bulging unnaturally; stretch marks indicating a chemically induced growth. He's sweating even without excursion. You find this strange- you think a member of the Consortium “warrior class” would be paid enough and given enough time to grow a good physique naturally. Then you see his muscle insertion points, the asymmetry in his predator eyes, the reliance on cheap chemical hormones- this is just the result of bad breeding, honestly.

Oh. You now understand the true purpose behind this training exercise.

You duck the first attack and respond with a slash too fast for him to react to- severing his throat and killing him. The artificial blood spills onto the floor with a satisfying, though still clearly fake, choking sound. The second one you advance and attack- attacking through his sloppy guard with quick stabs to the abdomen. You can guard you neck all you want, it won't protect the rest of you. In the span of a few seconds, you have dispatched the dummies.
>>
The bio-bots, in the shape and appearance of the Leraay, lay defeated in the fake spaceship corridor. You can't fault the director of combat simulations- this did feel very real. It's just a step away from real hologram technology. You do feel a little awkward for them pulling out all the stops for your little session.

”...You may not be a dueling master the likes of Eoba, or myself- I can tell you have only mastered a single weapon, when true warriors have many. Still, good work.”
”Ahh, thank you, your Majesty.” You did not know the Supreme Ruler was here. That explains a lot.
”I have come to tell you your new assignment. Starting today, you will head my defense fleet at The Stand.”
”That is a very important position to offer me, Lord. Surely there are other men more qualified then me? I am still early in my career.”
”It is not your decision. Besides- that's exactly what I need. The youth. The neuroplastic. We have been staring at the same stuffy planet for years now- going over the same strategies and the same simulations. We need fresh eyes.”
”Then I accept the position with gratitude.” You bow.
”Very good. Though, I do wonder- what does a young Takar want to get out of this? Your family has been less important in Hegemony politics in recent generations- once one of the most respected. Or, are you hoping for personal glory? I can tell by the way you hold yourself- you have a great need to prove yourself. Which is more important to you?”

This comment burns you. How can he see through you so easily? Your planned response of “to bring only glory to my Supreme Ruler” isn't going to work- he can just tell you don't truly mean it. What do you truly care about more?

>Revitalize the Takar Family!
>My own personal Glory!
>>
>>5879683
Ayyy, we're back. Guess we're finally getting to holodeck territory, that explains the weird scenario.
>My own personal Glory
I'm tired of making every character all selfless and long planning. Let's have someone who just wants to be good for themselves.
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory!
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!
>>
>>5879683
>>My own personal Glory!
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!
>>
>>5879683
>>Revitalize the Takar Family!

OH SHIT WE ARE BAAAAAAAACK!
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!
we are so back
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!
>>
>>5879683
>>Revitalize the Takar Family!
Is that a chance to get traditions back on the table?
>>
>>5879882
Unhumble the Aristocrats and take back the pride that was stolen!
>>
>>5879683
>>Revitalize the Takar Family!
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!

As we are back, so shall the Takars be
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory!
I wanna fancy dueling move named after us, in traditional style!
>>
>>5879683
>>My own personal Glory!
>>
>>5879683
>>My own personal Glory!
Nice to be back.

>>5880198
Also supporting this idea.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (148 KB, 900x637)
148 KB
148 KB PNG
As with the previous Sidequest- the new rules for 1post IDs still apply. This is your complimentary warning.

Normal votes or flavor votes will allow for 1 post ids, but for large and contentious votes, 1post ids will not be allowed and backlinking to 1post ids will also not be allowed. This is to prevent intentional sabotaging or samefagging. While there is no strict time limit- these votes will come without warning so make sure to get your ID in before it's too late.
>>
>>5880313
Why is backlinking not allowed?
t. curious dynamic IP
>>
>>5880316
maybe you can tripfag to make sure your voice is counted?
>>
>>5880325
Good idea, but I'm just curious why it's banned. Did something spicy happen?
>>
>>5880316
1post ids backlinking to other 1post ids to prevent a faulty vote chain. I don't foresee it being a problem, but this is a preventative measure.
>>
>>5880328
More than an entire shitstorm happened, yes.
>>
>>5880328
Heavy suspicion of samefaggotry turning on their head important and controversial votes (Sunshine betrayal and if Hazaar are unredeemable comes to mind)
>>
>>5880362
Total Hazaar death, as far as I'm concerned. If I remember who they were correctly, that is.
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family!

What happened to samefriend rights? Samefriends are voters too!
>>
>>5880374
Yeah, I don't want to re-live that part of the quest
The issue was are Hazaar rotten in each and every case or could we set a precedent of Red Hazaar empathy, that was overturned by an ocean of 1PBTID Spam
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory!
>>
hi
>>
>>5880362
Poor Sunshine ;_;
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory!
An ambitious appointee looking for personal glory is how the brits conquered India, I say we let Hass try his hand at megalomania.
>>
>>5880313
I'll still say that I appreciate the initiative.
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory!
I'll admit I'm a bit indecisive about this one. I'm mostly just voting in case I decide to go lurker mode later.
>>
>>5879683
>My own personal Glory!

>>5880550
same
>>
>>5880313
Noting my work IP.

>>5879699
Pretty sure this was my vote from home.
>>
>>5880550
Same boat

Honestly, sorta prefer revitalizing the line now that I think about it- mainly just to get more Takars as Candidates- I mainly just voted for glory just because I thought the duel moves names were cool.
>>
>>5880605
Can now confirm.
>>
>>5879683
>Personal Glory
My success is my house's success, and my house's success is your success and the empire's!
>>
>>5879683
>Revitalize the Takar Family
>>
>>5879683
Changing my vote to
>Personal Glory

>>5880748
You've convinced me.
>>
>>5879683
>>5879852
>>5880799
Forgot to link my vote change, just to make less of a headache.
>>
While the idea to bring honor to your family name, a lofty ambition, is at the forefront of your mind- you decide with all honesty and sincerity that you are more after your own personal reputation and glory here. Young and hungry for approval from the Supreme Ruler- you know your ambition will not be looked down upon, but instead celebrated.

”In that case, my Lord, I wish to prove myself. I want to earn my place among the heroes of the Hegemony's past- and earn myself a Golden Band.”
”And I shall give you one. When you earn it.”
”Yes, my Master! I will not fail you!”

You are now Bantam Falathane, the Supreme Ruler of the Hegemony. It is currently Year 64 of the Resurrection Era, and you are getting impatient.

For the past several years, you have been doing nothing but prepare- prepare for an attack by a rival power in your part of the Galaxy- the Consortium. They embody the opposite of your people and culture- a multi-racial-cosmopolitan, egalitarian, degenerate capitalist society. The stakes are high here- the battle itself may be a token conflict- but it represents the differences in ideology. To lose to them would put your reign forevermore in disgrace- and make it seem as though your grand and mighty unbroken chain of Supremacy has lost to the rabble. It must not be.

You make a mental checklist of your current position.

You are the Supreme Ruler of the Hegemony- the political and cultural center of your entire empire. Wielding absolute power; you are the sole mind and voice which guides the Hegemony. The Hegemony is a interstellar empire made up of the Jaxtian race- a species of primate native to your lush homeworld of Jaxt. After many years of eugenic control and constant technological advancement; you have become quite formidable against other forces in space.

You own and have colonized one whole Star-Cluster which includes several stars, habitable planets, space habitats, industrial systems, and an in-progress ecumenopolis. Your population will soon reach 300 Billion Jaxtians, who create the intellectual and commercial profit to power your empire.

You currently have access to Mark II Fusion Cores, which rely on deuterium or tritium fuel to operate as opposed to pure hydrogen- the most common and plentiful element in the universe.

You currently can build and have a fleet of Crusier-Class ships. You do not have the capabilities to build Battleship-Class ships, which are much more powerful.
>>
You have discovered and have access to two Strategic Resources- types of resources that cannot be synthesized from normal matter or can't be found on any given planet or solar-system. These resources are Azurium, an extremely strong metal famed for its stability, conductivity, and heat-proofing- only able to be worked with special magnetic forges. The second resource is the BAG, or Boson-Accumulator Gas, which can transform energy into many kinds of matter- such as stable superheavy radioactive materials, antimatter, and more.

You have an extremely advanced network of computers run by AI personality and computational cores. Currently, you are running the Threemind- a triplicate AI overmind based on three different computer architectures combined together- which is impossible to hack or overpower. As far as your current enemies and rival and concerns, you are unmatched in this regard. Because of the importance of high level computers for scientific and genetic research- you are leading in this area.

You have Exterminated several intelligence species. This is considered a serious atrocity in the eyes of some of your galactic rivals; causing friction in diplomacy. On the upside, it has given you a great notoriety that makes you feared and respected as warriors.

Your understand of the deeper mysteries of the universe, such as Starsight, are average at best.

The Jaxtians species themselves has been Augmented with stolen genes from other alien species; adapted to your own biology. These upgrades include elongated lifespans, a sleep-suspension gene, increased size and strength for “Alpha” Jaxtians (though you are an Alpha, you are pureblooded), a matching of the lifespans of regular and “Alpha” Jaxtians, and an evolved Inner-Ear that grants greater spatial awareness and more fine senses which is still working its way into the general population via your Indigo Clone Program.

Culturally, your people have continued the line of Succession of Supreme Rulers without a party or republic system. Eoba II has since reformed your selection process and the gene-caste system, allowing Supreme Ruler candidates to be chosen from early life success and merit as opposed to pure potential. You personally lowered the prestige and importance of the ruling noble families of the Hegemony- which lowered your cultural richness and tradition- but was necessary to cut costs and balance the budget of your empire.

You have two Overseers who help delineate your responsibilities in running your nation. These are Overseer of Infrastructure, currently held by Mann Yumm, and Overseer of Science, recently taken over by Maktana III, the son and exact genetic clone of the previous Overseer- Maktana II.
>>
Politically; you have the following relationships with the neighboring powers.
You are in a Non-Speaking, Non-Aggression Pact with the Esaal, but are very friendly otherwise.
You are on poor to neutral terms with the Aristocrats.
You are at war with the Consortium.
You have had no contact with the Seekers for centuries now. With much of their territory gobbled up by the Consortium; in all likelihood they are no more.

With the general state of the Hegemony all laid out, you focus on the more immediate task at hand.

https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2023/5605303/

The current focus of the war with the Consortium is centered around The Stand, which is the name you have given a tiny, unwanted planet orbiting a red giant. The concern over this planetary system is only relevant at all is for two key reasons; it is the closest planetary body you own near Consortium space, and it has a decent supply of Azuirum, which has currently been reserved to building your massive planet-wide cityscape that will be home to billions upon billions of your people for centuries to come. Due to border friction and politics- the Consortium claim it as their own and have since sent two assaults to try and dislodge your defense. You have repelled both; and are preparing for the third and final wave.

Why is it important? Truthfully, the planet has little value intrinsically, and while the Azurium is quite valuable and you aren't sure where you will be able to get more for the near future, it isn't a totally irreplaceable resource. So why fight? It has become a token conflict. Something representative of the difference between your two powers. To back off is to show weakness for both nations- and to the absolute power of the Supreme Ruler- and so in order to prove yourself- you must stand and fight. For this mission, you are resolved. You have staked your legacy on it, and have no choice in the matter. And given the closeness of the Consortium's leadership and the space worms- a hateful race bent on proving your true ultimate purpose of defeating entropy futile- this goes beyond simply a spat between two political powers.

However, that doesn't mean it's going to be easy. The first two waves were small; exploratory or minor attack forces. The third is going to be all out- taking the full might of the Consortium's massive GDP and industrial base against you. Even if they are individually less advanced and weaker then your own great race; the many peoples of the Consortium can drown you in their excess. Quantity over quality, in this case. Plus, they may still have a few tricks you aren't too sure about. That duplicate 'ghost fleet' nearly got you to retreat last time. Who knows what else they could have in store...
>>
The Consortium is no doubt trying to advance their own technology and weapons at the same time you are- which is a perfect explanation as to how you caught a smuggler trying to bring something into Consortium space through your territory.

This vial of special stuff is colloquially known as Celestial Blood, and is another form of Strange Matter. Maktana III has spent the last few years in furious research over this material, and suspects this could be a third Strategic resource out in space, similar to Azurium and BAG. The Consortium doesn't seem to have any data on the material, which is why they were desperate to get their hands on some for research purposes. However, it appears the Aristocrats already know of the substance and have quite a lot of experience with it- though they call it the Celestial Wine.

Maktana III explains to you that the Celestial Blood has properties similar to a liquid physically- but is remarkable for its ability to move through and bond with normal matter without changing or altering existing bonds. Essentially, this means the Celestial Blood can be used to bond two things together or create new chemical or electrical connections without damaging or breaking apart existing machines- or especially importantly- organic, living things. It could be thought of as a liquid electrical wire, a bloodless umbilical cord, a free form tool without cutting edge. It's the stem-cell of valance bonds. Naturally, as with any of these rare forms of matter found out in the exotic reaches of space; the implications for what this could actually be used for in practical terms is insane. Maktana III reports that science teams all over the Hegemony are up in arms over trying to get even a molecule of this stuff for testing or prototyping purposes- we haven't seen anti-social behavior out of the scientists of the Hegemony like this since the days of Ingar!

Sadly, you do not have any idea how to get more of this material, or where it can be found. The Aristocrats are not willing to share any of the Celestial Wine or information with you at the present time. More research will be required for more information or practical uses of the Celestial Blood.
>>
You've done everything else you can so far. You've paced back and forth over strategies, hired and trained the very best pilots and captains, commissioned more ships to be built to exacting specifications, repaired the damage to The Stand's fortifications and cleared the debris field- and yet it's just back to the horrid waiting. You decide to ask your digital assistant and mastermind behind the Hegemony's AI network- Threes.

”I can't stand waiting around anymore. I am wasting time doing this. What should I be doing to prepare?”
“Scientific advancement.”
”The timescale is too long for any serious research. Even if we had Battleships unlocked by tomorrow, we wouldn't have time to build any in the next few years before they come.”
“Correct, your Majesty. There isn't time for a major overhaul of Hegemony schematics, ships, or your defenses- but there is still science to be done. Science is not merely huge leaps and bounds found via new technologies- such things are rare and more of an exception to the rule. Most science and development happens in small stages- small improvements that cultivate over years and years to new standards. Instead, focus on minor advancements- things that a small software update, or a single production run could cover and send out. These will have a big impact in the end.”
”Hmm. I'm intrigued. Send me a list.”
“Yes, your Highness.”

With a blip- a screen is shown to you revealing a small tech tree. This is your list of research projects of micro-advancements- small advances or projects that can be simulated, compiled, organized, put into effect, produced, and distributed in about a years time each.

“The grayed-out projects are future projects, which you will be able to authorize researching only when the previous research is fully finished, as it requires that first step to put into motion. The research projects without a projected future may or may not have a future project associated with it.”
”Hmm. And are all of these equally useful and viable? I'm sure your projections can be calculate the cost-benefit anaylsis of each.”
“No, my lord. Each project is independent of each other in terms of value. Some may be immediately useful, or some may not be useful at all. Some may be critical for a future project we have no idea about that would be the crux of our entire defensive strategy, or one project may only be useful at the first stage of research, with following projects having greatly diminished returns. I cannot tell the future- Only give you the projects culled from lists of millions of potentials into what I calculate to be the more beneficial and achievable for the Hegemony at this time. Once you tell me which project to allocate our spare resources to- all available budget, science personnel, and spare computer cycles will go towards it.”
”Hmm. Tell me a bit more about each project.”
>>
“The Bio-Bots, which are based on the Leraay skin-suit technology, are AI puppeted flesh and blood cyborgs which we have started to produce in recent years both for training- but more importantly for espionage. Given our superior AI technology over the Consortium, it wouldn't be difficult to insert several of these robots as spies into their society in the same way they once had spies within ours. This first project will be about programming and covertly sneaking our robot spies among the Consortium systems and stars. While it is unlikley they will be able to get high in the chain of command, even a few loose agents transmitted data covertly back to the Hegemony will be of great value to us. Even with our deep-space listening outposts the Consortium are doing a great effort to not broadcast their combat goals, size and strength of their forces, or timeplan of attack. They must be sharing this information among themselves somehow; probably through physical media or direct light transmission as to not be listened to in hyperspace channels.

The second project is about stealing a tactic used by the Consortium against us; a disposable lattice of conductive material, cheaply mass produced, and warped in along with their attack ships to absorb the first volley of fire from our laser artillery. It seemed they had a forewarning about our artillery from a spy listening post in The Stand's star system that we overlooked, which has since been dealt with. There is also a potential to create a repairable and reusable model of the conductive lattice- an environmentally friendly way to reuse the screens as long as we have enough downtime between attacks to repair them and put them back into position.

The third project is for our laser artillery itself- which was prone to overheating and couldn't sustain itself during the previous battle. The laser artillery battery is located on The Stand's planetary surface to protect it, but sadly couldn't dissipate its heat quick enough given how much it was firing. With a new cooling system, these turrets could remain useful for a longer engagement. There is also potential to reuse this thermal energy to help power the laser turrets themselves; essentially letting us power even more of them and make a stronger artillery bank.
>>
The fourth project is about streamlining and finding useful tactics for our highly advanced and well equipped boarding teams. While we have boarded enemy ships many times before; during the previous second wave against The Stand- ship boarding was deemed too risky and not useful enough, as it would take too long to disable ships from within as opposed to just blowing them up, be too risky to put our own troops into position, and not to mention the potential for friendly fire once a ship was captured. As such, we didn't make much use of it then. Even during Cijan Anak's grand reconquistia, ship boarding was only used to kill a high value target. However, more research into tactics, drills, and elite troops could be done to make ship boarding more viable in a large scale engagement like this.

The fifth and final project is an unknown; but simply researching the Celestial Blood more and seeing what practical use it has, if any, for the defense of The Stand. It would also include letting Maktana III have more reign over our science departments and getting more information on where we could potentially source more of the substance, however, it is a total unknown if it will result in more projects or if they will be useful for warfare.”

”Thank you, Threes. That information will suffice. I have one more question- do you have a recommendation for a first project?”

“Yes. Disperse the bio-bots into the Consortium. The sooner we send them out, the more information we can get before the Consortium gets wise to our tactics. Once they find a good method for identifying them from their normal population, as we have with their skin-suit-spies, they will no longer be of any use.”

Now it is time to decide. With that massive amount of information out of the way- it is time to begin organizing the real final defense of the Stand. What research project should you start with first?

>Bio-Bot Dispersion
>Energy-Scattering Lattices
>Laser Artillery Cooling
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>Celestial Blood Research
>>
>>5880865
>Ship Boarding Tactics

Samefriends will board the ships!
>>
File: monke screen.png (319 KB, 1106x1012)
319 KB
319 KB PNG
>>5880870
There is NO way you read all that shit in 2 minutes bro
>>
>>5880865
>>Energy-Scattering Lattices
>>
File: Police.gif (267 KB, 200x211)
267 KB
267 KB GIF
>>5880874
>>5880870
Lmao
>>
>>5880865
>Bio-Bot Dispersion
Celestial Blood WOULD be interesting, if we weren't going to go to war soon. We need something we got a decent idea of the practicality of instead of mystery box stuff that might ultimately be a time sink.
>>
>>5880865
>Bio-Bot Dispersion
Our key advantage is our AI technology, right? Let's leverage that.
>>
>>5880865
>Biobots
If some get discovered, then they are rogue fragments of our AI looking to escape the horrors of our totalitarian state.
>>
>>5880865
>Celestial Blood Research
>>
>>5880865
>Ship Boarding Tactics
Upgrading our monke capital is well worth using our scientific capital, like using our eggheads to make an space marine omelette.

The mystery box does tempt me- undoubtedly could be a two-for-one, specifically with the Laser Artillery Cooling system- just imagine combining the turrets with the cooling temp of liquid nitrogen.

>>5880903
And replace it… with another?

Nah, at best the biobots it will become better Ferangi- and desu, I imagine industrial and corporate espionage to be more useful, what with the disposable lattice being a mass produced design and their reliance on industrial might. Maybe we could control the Consortium black market, akin to how the worms control the regular market?
>>
This is true. Make enough money and use it correctly and you become the elite. No need to sneak in to their secret meetings. Just market manipulation and blackmail should be enough.
>>
>>5880865
>Bio-Bot Dispersion
Best case scenario : we have long term, high level sources of intelligence.
Mid case scenario : strategic posts will be scanned for bio bots. Still, we will hear commercial and industrial secrets by sheer number presence
Bad case scenario : we get the shaft from one tip to the other with that development. But this doesn't open in this quest, right?
>>
>>5880931
Actually, I can think of a worse case scenario, but I’ll leave the fun bit for y’all to figure out
>>
>>5880865
>Ship Boarding Tactics
If we can capture enemy ships we will learn more than from destroying the
>>
>>5880865
>Celestial Blood Research
Can't resist a mystery box

>>5880938
You think they'll go skynet on us? If we got that upgrade that gave ai more independence I'd be more worried about it, but since we didn't I'm not too concerned.
Or is it that the consortium will find out and reverse engineer them, then try to use it on us? I wouldn't worry since they are apparently behind on ai tech. Worse case is that this helps them in their tech, but even then they won't be catching up anytime soon.
>>
>>5880865
Let's be logical about this.
>Biobots
The best first option - intel is much more important than anything else. Even if we have nothing else, it's important to know - like when the enemy will come, or how big their forces will be.
>Energy Lattices
Useful, but not too much. There are simply more useful options here. It's not going to decide the fate of a battle.
>Laser artillery
Useful, and a good contender for second (or third, if there is one) option.
>Ship boarding
Not that useful. The Consortium works by quantity, not quality, and thus they wouldn't have any reall high-value targets that would be worth the time wasted on research to make it easier just blowing them up.
>Celestial
Mystery box, and i think we should pick this as either second or third option.

Since there are 'tiered' options, i imagine that we'll have AT LEAST two 'years', or else they would be completely useless. My reccomendation is therefore pick biobots first, and celestial blood or artilery second, with a possible third picking the other one.
>>
>>5880865
>>Laser Artillery Cooling

Its the most "Grug" option but that doesn't neccessarily mean its the wrong one.
>>
>>5881108
>You think they'll go skynet on us? If we got that upgrade that gave ai more independence I'd be more worried about it, but since we didn't I'm not too concerned.
Oh no, that was an instant game over, quest-over trap choice lol. You guys have dodged one or two of those so far.
>>
>>5881150
Oh damn, these are some high stakes with many risks. Comes with managing a civ lmao
>>
This quest is brilliant satire and i kind of like it
>>
>>5880865
>Laser Artillery Cooling

The seekers were far more Ai-capable then even we are, and they evidently got rolled and shut down hard by the consortium. They evidently have ways to deal with even advanced AI on their own turf. Plus, infiltrator bio-bots within their population is something they could use to rally their population for the war when discovered - and right now the consortium isn't kicking up into War economy mode. I don't want to risk changing that.
>>
>>5880865
>Laser Artillery Cooling
>>
>>5880865
>Laser artillery
>>
>>5880865
>Bio-Bot Dispersion

Blade Runner mother fucker
>>
>here’s your new, like, celestial sizzurp or something. It’s a super material or however the swall are killed even doe it’s just gorilla glue with red dye in it lol
>>
>>5881113
Thank you anon, this helps quite a bit.
>>
>>5881311
I say as I forget to vote.

>>5880865
>Laser Artillery Cooling
>>
>>5880865
>>Celestial Blood Research
I'm sorry. The mystery box is too strong.

>>5881150
What was the other one, if there was another one?
>>
>>5881421
I imagine he's talking about how choosing biology for Yuan would have led to him making the entire jaxtian race infertile. But then again, we would have had the chance to maybe go full necron.

Of course, i count that as a loss anyway. It'd be space robot quest then, not space monkey.
>>
>>5880865
>Bio-Bot Dispersion

Remember people, this is a one years duration project, we aren't locking in one side of the tech tree of anything like that, we will get the option to do the other projects so now we need to focus on Short-Term usage and for that, the Bio-bots are the best option.

>Bio-Bot Dispersion

This plays into our strenghts(Threemind) while solving the biggest problem when it comes to preparing for interstellar war, the light-lag. Moreover, our infiltration of their society could also help steal more of their technology.

Here's a nice book about intelligence and it's history and importance
>https://www.defence.lk/upload/ebooks/John_Hughes-Wilson_Colonel-The_Secret_State_A_Hist.pdf
>>
>>5880865
>Bio-Bot Dispersion
It needs some time to be useful to us, so doing it first is optimal if we're doing it at all, and the intelligence it would give us would be incredible to have. Laser Artillery seems great, Boarding Tactics could maybe do something, Celestial Blood could have great results but I doubt they would come in the short term, it definitely looks like a long term project, Lattices are also neat but probably less useful than artillery upgrades.
>>
>>5880865
>Celestial Blood Research
>>
>>5880865
>>5881452
This is a bretty good sales pitch. Tech spying could get us some real gains and expose weak points too.

>>5881144 changing from this
To Bio Bots
>>
>>5881577
It’s only of short term utility- everything else has more long term utility to it
>>
>>5881585
How is Intel short term?
>>
>>5881585
We're not trying to get long term utility here, the entire purpose of these research decisions is to get an advantage for the upcoming attack. There might be some long term benefits, but that's not the main concern here.
>>
>>5881452
The more I think about it, the better it gets. We learn about their reproduction. We set them against each other- their diversity being their biggest weakness. We learn their tech. Their resource placement.

Right now we're flying blind.
>>
It hasn't quite been 24 hours yet, but Bio-Bots is very clearly ahead. We'll close the voting now with the bots as the winner.
>>
Rolled 4, 2, 1 = 7 (3d6)

>>
Time got away from me today, I shouldn't have called the vote so early without an update ready, my mistake. I am really intending to shoot for once daily updates again because I feel it helps with retention and interest.

In the meantime- I'll ask you, the players, a question. What do you feel would be the best possible update schedule for Monke Quest?
>>
>>5882046
>What do you feel would be the best possible update schedule for Monke Quest?
Something consistent? Obviously, if it takes too long it's no good, but consistency matters a lot. While once-a-day is best, I'd rather have a consistent once-every-two-days update than updates that vary from once a day to once a week with no telling what'll be what.
>>
>>5882046
What >>5882047 said, with once-per-day being my personal preference if possible.
>>
>>5882046
Once every two days with longer voting periods is fine.
>>
>>5882046
I'd say something like going at your own pace, maybe once every day but with breaks (make sure to tell us about them so that anons don't freak out or lose hope) to get rid of burnout.
>>
>>5882046
Ideally once a day. Once every two days if that's what's necessary for personal consistency. Longer than that and I definitely start to get distracted.
>>
>>5882046
Something that works best for you?
>>
>>5882046
3 or 4 times per week is best
>>
>>5882046
Everyday with the same start and finish time.

Barring that, a 16 hour run once a week.
>>
You have decided to disperse the bio bots into the Consortium. For now, the Leraay are the ones you can most convincingly fake- the other races would require a lot more data and DNA samples to really get the ball rolling- but considering they make up a small majority of the Consortium's population, this is the best cover you can get for your espionage efforts.

Sadly, it seems methods to actually manipulate or control their economy are very limited- market forces are out of the Leraay's own control- much less a foreign influence.

The Consortium is a collection of big business interests, political bodies, and individuals who abide by its practices and laws. Essentially, it's a capitalist economy that parasites on other entities; as all capitalists do. Among their laws and culture are several other negative and manipulative drives- such as individual freedom, diversity of thought and race, legal protections and rights, and a culture strained by egalitarian and democratic thinking. All inferior and primitive forms of political thought and exercise- though they have been capable of holding together into the space age.

Interestingly; despite their self-centered nature, unlike Hazaar, the Leraay seem to have created a common culture that connects individuals instead of fighting among themselves. Surprisingly, this is from a religion. The Leraay once seemed to have a very popular religious superstition following a singular messianic figure; one Mianmi. While most Leraay anthropologists agree she really existed, the supernatural powers ascribed to her are clearly a result of time and fiction.

Mianmi is a notable figure- being a female Leraay not possessed by the same high aggression, sexual domination, and stunted mental development that marks all Leraay females. The Leraay believe she may have had an endocrine issue that made her infertile, and also spared her mind from falling into the same animalistic behavior as other female Leraay. To the Leraay primitives; this was a sure sign of divine intention. Described as a savior- this figure went around the world healing the sick and giving lessons; most of all forgiveness and compassion, which to the Leraay were very uncommon during this time of medieval brutalism. It seems the common core of their culture was formed here that eventually lead to their advancement as a species into the space age- developing advanced societies that could eventually incorporate other species into their mass. As Leraay have less testosterone-equivalent as other males of other species- this made them uniquely suited to diplomacy and cross-cultural pollination, and could explain how they managed to incorporate so many worlds into their space empire.
>>
As for Mianmi- the "messiah" at the end of her life promised to return before heading into the mountains, where the smaller and weaker males could not follow. The Leraay eventually developed the technology to explore the mountains, then the sky, and then outer space in an attempt to find her. But they never did. Most Leraay today no longer believe in the religion, but given the diversity and freedom of thought in the Consortium, there are still conservative groups that take the practices of this fictional character very seriously. Yet another thing we could potentially manipulate, if we get the chance.

Sadly, it seems due to the luck of the draw and the secrecy of the current Consortium administration that we aren't able to manipulate any of their markets or research at this time. Getting some ears to the ground is useful, as you learn that the enemy attack is advancing much faster then you first anticipated. This means you have less time to prepare and fill out your tech tree then you first thought. It's out of your hands now, and you will have to adjust accordingly...

In the meantime; looking over your defensive plans for The Stand- you see very few cracks or weaknesses. The isolation of this outpost means there are little other targets for collateral damage. However, your new star admiral in the form of Hass Takar has taken over a month to finally get shipped out here. This military outpost is far from everything. While you are preparing to do battle here, you consider briefly if it may be worth colonizing this system to bring valuable resources, personnel, and a work force closer to where the battle will happen. Of course, that will end up meaning more targets for the enemy to shoot at. But, the Hegemony and Supreme Ruler are nothing but pragmatic. Civilian targets will, after all, serve as useful distractions if your only goal is winning the war. But is that really a sacrifice you're willing to make?

>Colonize the system with Civilians
>Keep this a militarized outpost
>>
Remind me, was the consortium as trigger happy as the Esaal in blowing up civilian infrastructure?
>>
>>5882349
>Keep this a militarized outpost
This should not be colonized in the middle of a war. Afterwards sure, but not right now.
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system with Civilians
>>Make if a prison colony

Put all the evil same-friends there, it doesn’t matters if they get shot at.
>>
>>5882349
>Keep this a militarized outpost
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system with Civilians

Civilians and Soldiers, both live and die by the will of the Supreme Leader.
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system with Civilians
Might make the Consortium less likely to attack, or some of their moralistic, individualist soldiers hesitate at crucial junctures. Maybe sue our Bio-Bots to spread tales of Jaxtians are abused, servile, downtrodden peoples, so that even if they hate the Supreme they will not hate the civvies?
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system.

The big cons of colonizing are allowing more opportunity for kitty infiltrators and increasing the chance of requiring a response to the use of nukes. In reality I expect that it would decrease our efficiency to import people and spread our defense, but 3-mind knows best here.

The choice is being presented as improving military efficiency. If true, I say send in the Civilians and get to mining that blue gold. It's not like we will have any other significant colonial outlets until Megacity is online, and Megacity needs Azurium. We don't need to promise our subjects anything, but maybe allow those who fulfill their role well during the battle some privileges in the new city world that they are helping to build?
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system with Civilians
A few million is nothing to the billions
>>
>>5882397
>+1
This makes sense. Best case scenario we get Monke Con Air in Space.
>>
>>5882397
+1
Make a dead mans switch incase the planet is lost to blow it up and all the prisoners with it.
>>
>>5882397
>>5882509
>>5882528
Doesn't putting all our worst and most subversive elements in one place encourage them to betray us, defect, etcetera?
>>
>>5882531
Not if we imbed spies for when the Consortium "liberates" them who turn at a critical moment.
>>
>>5882537
Yeah I agree on doing this, and no spy will know who is an other spy.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (370 KB, 4960x3508)
370 KB
370 KB PNG
>>5880313
Dick Christmas stocking on the left. Also getting ID for future votes. Praise Monke.
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system with Civilians
In the end civilians are a extension of the military arming and feeding them
>>
>>5882349
>Keep this a militarized outpost
I want to return to our roots of actually giving a shit about our people, please
>>
>>5882619
When have we ever given a shit lmao? We're a totalitarian society that says it exists for the "general" good of the people, but in essence we're oppressing them and throwing them away like always.

I remember anons having a complete mental breakdowns about that obvious realization because of that one side-story that put the more individual consequences to light. And that was for a literal monke princess pretty much.

Free the same-friends!
>>
>>5882628
I see you never read the first threads.
>>
File: monke screen2.png (327 KB, 1106x1012)
327 KB
327 KB PNG
>>5882397
So once again I don't want to stop players from doing what they want or skewing votes in progress but I just want to comment on this write-in real quick.

According to the "official" monke quest canon, there really aren't any political prisoners to speak of in the Hegemony, as they are reeducated very quickly or were all wiped out / exiled barely 50 years ago in the present timeline.

I personally don't mind doing a soft retcon to allow for a large number of rebellious or Anti-Social Jaxtians to exist if you think the idea is more interesting, but right now it doesn't really work in universe.
>>
>>5882349
>>Keep this a militarized outpost
>>
>>5882349
>Colonize the system with Civilians
>>
>>5882349
>Keep this a militarized outpost
>>
>>5882349
>Keep this a militarized outpost
>If your only goal is winning the war
We're not that desperate yet
>>
>>5882349
>Keep this a militarized outpost

As much as we hold supreme power over all souls under our domain, letting them die needlessly would raise questions, and eventually, our end as the Supreme as another candidate think we are unworthy and win a duel to the death against us.
>>
>>5882649
>>5882509
No need to retcon, I'll change to
>Colonize the system
>>
In the Swall System, on a planet once known as Swallia- is the site of a huge construction by the Hegemony.

This project, known as the great city, or wet city, or sometimes just "city planet", is a ecumenopolis that will one day house a hundred billion Jaxtians. Built on the defeated and conquered planet once belonging to the now extinct Swall race of aliens; this massive megastructure is your current long term project. Headed by Mann Yumm for its construction and efficiency, and beautified by Yino Val, the son of the previous Supreme Ruler- you have heard of nothing indicating the two minds are butting heads over the design of the city. In fact, they seem to be getting along swimmingly.

With Jaxtians living all over claimed Hegemony space- from space stations to moon bases to habitable worlds and even your own homeworld- once home to only the elite members of your society, but now, more metropolitan; the great city should act as an excellent population store and buffer for future generations. Once it is completed, any future problems of over population and living space should be a thing of the past.

Currently; Jaxtians prefer to live on either your homeworld of Jaxt or the wet city- with other planets, colonies, and habitats being less hospitable and less desirable. Still, every habitable world has a notable presence of families and young Jaxtians; inspired to defend their homeland with strong roots.

Currently, the city is still being built- with all of Swall's tiny island chains and surface land having been bulldozed and smoothed out for the construction project of such a large scale. Soon, the entire planet will be covered by water- the cityscape underneath- but it is not yet that day. This massive project will hopefully help define the value of your reign and work of the Supreme Ruler for future generations- just another reason why The Stand is so important.
>>
Year 65 of the Resurrection Era
You have decided to Colonize the Stand with a civilian presence. Based on your understanding of the Consortium's war philosophy- they won't attack civilian infrastructure or treat non-combatants the same as uniformed soldiers. This is their definition of honor- a certain level of foolishness that you will not apply in return. The Esaal would never direct their battlefield doctrine this way, but you can certainly take advantage of this.

By allowing civilians to move into The Stand and bulk up the mining colonies and orbital space around the planet- you have bulked up your presence in the system and increased the defense of your fortification by proxy with minimal risk to your noncombatant citizens. Good.

However, an idea springs to mind. Anything beaming out a civilian signal is likely to be ignored by the Consortium's military forces- at least until they pose a threat. As such, you could use this as a surprise attack. Order the construction of weapons and hide them among civilian installations; and use them in the upcoming battle. Of course, doing so would be a breach of the unspoken social contract between you and the Consortium- not that you care much for a relationship between yourself and degenerate capitalists. After all, pragmatism is the core heart of the Hegemony. Any attempt to strike down these civilian bases would only look poorly upon the Consortium- though they won't just allow themselves to be hit by them without retaliation- you can easily get the jump on them doing this.

Do you think we should use the Civilian presence as a potential way to ambush the Consortium?
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed

With that done, and no important information yet gleamed by the Bio-Bot spies, you have to decide what research to work on next.
>Energy Scattering
>Laser Cooling
>Ship-Boarding
>Celestial Blood
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed

>Laser Cooling

Woo, Monkeyciv is back. Don't need any atrocity considering the galaxy already kinda hates us, and laser cooling might give us some advantages with shipboard weaponry that could be decisive.
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Laser Cooling
>>
>>5883117
>>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>Energy Scattering
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed

>Laser Cooling
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>Laser Cooling
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Ship-Boarding
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)

>Celestial Blood
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>Laser cooling

There are no noncombatants
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
Everyone already hates us and we already fucked up in the atrocity department, no reason not to since not committing one won't make us look any better.

>Laser Cooling
It was either this or Energy-Scattering. We need ship weapons.
>>
>>5883117
>Laser Cooling
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed

I don't see why it would be an atrocity unless they actually fired, but then again why build guns which will never shoot? I think that we will win just fine without the civilian stations firing.
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Energy Scattering
>>
>>5880313
It still hurts
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)

>Ship-Boarding
>>
>>5883185
IRL militarized civilian facilities is considered a war crime because it paints a target on the back of noncombatants and if allowed defeats the purpose of protected targets.

>Keep stations unarmed
>celestial blood
>>
>>5883300
Jaxtians are a violent, authoritarian and somewhat stupid parody of the human race. “There are no civilians” is the kind of pseud shit they’d gobble up
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>Laser Cooling
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Laser Cooling

Dear BananasQM, I hope the Bio-bots will keep providing us info (or maybe sabotage)
Regards,
t. FaggotPlayer
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Laser Cooling
Remind me, don't we have like a giga shipyard due to controlling the gas giant hivemind people? While we don't have battleships, I imagine we can probably spam cruisers extremely well, no?
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Laser Cooling
>>
>>5883117
>Build strong Tractor-Beams on civilian stations
No need to overtly 'arm' them when a Tractor beam with multiple roles can still be a useful military multiplier - holding enemy ships in place or turning/hurling them around; catching fighters, bombers and projectiles (and even throwing projectiles back, as first used against the Baalathi).

>Laser Cooling
>>
>>5883456
+1
I like this idea of using 'plausibly civilian' tech to muddle up the warcrime allegations.
>>
>>5883617
No one's gonna fall for that. That would be stupid. They're still gonna go 'you armed them, they're valid targets'. We shouldn't half-measure here...either we don't arm them, or we arm them to the teeth.
>>
>>5883456
I like that idea, too.
>>
>>5883383
You don't have to say "would" the Supreme literally thought that exact line a few threads ago. Jatxians literally don't believe in civilians
>>
>>5883693
>>5883383

Even the phrasing in this thread isn't about whether WE believe in civilians, but whether we want to exploit the CONSORTIUM's belief in civilians.

>Based on your understanding of the Consortium's war philosophy- they won't attack civilian infrastructure or treat non-combatants the same as uniformed soldiers. This is their definition of honor- a certain level of foolishness that you will not apply in return.
THEY will hesitate to hurt civilians because they believe in non-combatants and the sanctity of peaceful, individual lives. The Hegemony does not. In the Hegemony, as among the Esaal, every man, woman, and child exists only to serve the state. When the state turns its attention to war, all the state's people (or monkeys) are warriors.

It's not even that far-fetched or out-there as a societal model. Eritrea literally justifies their conscript program this way, drafting almost all farmers, construction workers, and even sometimes regular service workers as 'soldiers' so they are obligated to serve the central government and aren't owed regular pay or anything.
>>
>>5883117
>Build weapons among Civilian stations (This is a minor atrocity)
>Energy Scattering
>>
>>5883705
there was a phrase in an earlier thread about how jaxtians don't believe in the concept of civilians. iirc it was when there was a decision on whether to bomb an esaal space daycare.
IMO, categorically denying the distinction between soldiers and civilians is intellectually lazy at best and a symptom of shitty ideology at worst. however, reaching similar conclusions (e.g. we should bomb the esaal kindergarten) is fine provided that we have a better justification, e.g. one which considers reasons we may want to spare civilians and finds them to be not be too convincing in the context of our knowledge of the esaal and the nature of our conflict with them.
>>
>>5883117
>Keep Civilian stations unarmed
>Celestial Blood
>>
File: Spoiler Image (96 KB, 900x637)
96 KB
96 KB PNG
Voting is now closed.
>>
>>5883982
The Jaxtian Hegemony doesn't seem to encourage intellectual or philsophical curiosity. After Wrix's purges and the culture of obedience and homogeneity they encouraged, with that drastic action ITSELF the result of ideological heterodoxy and subversion by the intellectually-curious and independent, I have to imagine that's been doubled-down on. In other words, intellectual laziness makes perfect sense as a characteristic of the Hegemony. As with most strongman-centred systems, it seeks to udnerstand the universe, society, and all other things in terms of simple, uncomplicated targets at which a string man (or monkey) can direct his might. With our current leader being insecure about his alphaness/masculinity, that's probably amplified.
>>
>>5883982
>categorically denying the distinction between soldiers and civilians is intellectually lazy at best and a symptom of shitty ideology at worst
For conflicts of humans fighting humans, where breeding with a defeated tribe's females is a possibility, then yes, civilians exist. For wars between species? No.
>>
>>5884249
>laughing in hazaar
>>
>>5884249
Stop thinking with your dick. There are plenty of other ways to use captured civilian populations of other races. Even we, as the hegemony, were trying to establish several “subject” races (vetuck, swall, hazaar) before a blondecel chudded it up and ruined most of the progress in that direction
>>
>>5884319
>Being this ignorant
The concept of a "civilian" is based on human sexual and social dynamics, which involve aggressive males fighting for control of females and critical resources. The females, very young, very old, etc are not part of the enemy force of mostly males- both economically and militarily. These can be safely inducted into a new tribal power structure when one side triumphs over the other- which scales from tribal conflicts to modernized nations.

However between multiple competing species, the only final result of prolonged conflict is wiping one species out. In the same way a group of hunters don't leave a bunch of wolf pups alive after killing the violent adults, you do not leave an enemy "civilian" alive in an inter-racial (incompatible races) or inter-species conflict, as the end result is only more enemies. The ONLY exception to this is in Imperial power structures, where the ruling class has no qualms in adopting new citizens underneath them for personal power, at the cost of their core demographic. However, the Jaxtians have a strong racial consciousness and a leader who cares about preserving them into the future, thus manipulation of an enemy's civilian base is fine, but sparing them is not.
>>
>>5884333
Nice assertion of sociologcial theory as fact, but there's just one problem with that (well one immediate problem): we, under the current Supreme, already spared defeated combatants. Not 'civilians', or noncombatants, or females, or children. Warriors, still capable of making war. Clearly we don't stand by principle at this juncture.
>>
>>5884333
>However between multiple competing species, the only final result of prolonged conflict is wiping one species out.
not really. to take your example with wolves, where do you think dogs came from?
>you do not leave an enemy "civilian" alive in an inter-racial (incompatible races) or inter-species conflict, as the end result is only more enemies.
a great oversimplification. one could think of many reasons why a population could be happy to have new alien overlords, or could be made happy after a few generations. the QM listed some reasons earlier in some consortium sidequest iirc when discussing how new species were absorbed into the consortium.
>at the cost of their core demographic
again, argument by lack of imagination. one could imagine aliens inhabiting worlds that would be prohibitively expensive or impossible to terraform to jaxtian standards, or aliens inhabiting a "buffer region" that protects jaxtians from direct contact with hostiles. one could imagine aliens that prove very useful due to special abilities, like the vetuck and the swall in this very quest, or working animals irl.
>>
>>5884343
We genocided multiple races within living memory dude- even if this Supreme spared some combatants in a minor border skirmish, it doesn’t mean that ‘we’, via any Supreme, wouldn’t jump on the atrocity wagon to save a quick buck, let alone anything vaguely threatening the Supreme’s power.

>>5884424
>one could think of many reasons why a population could be happy to have new alien overlords, or could be made happy after a few generations
I can just think of one reason they would never be happy, and probably would fight a war of total annihilation.
>You have Exterminated several intelligence species. This is considered a serious atrocity in the eyes of some of your galactic rivals; causing friction in diplomacy. On the upside, it has given you a great notoriety that makes you feared
>again, argument by lack of imagination.
Not imagination, only in-quest experience.
>one could imagine aliens inhabiting worlds that would be prohibitively expensive or impossible to terraform to jaxtian standards, or aliens inhabiting a "buffer region" that protects jaxtians from direct contact with hostiles.
That didn’t protect the Huzzar within the Hegemony (and shouldn’t have with the Vassal States desu).
>one could imagine aliens that prove very useful due to special abilities, like the vetuck and the swall in this very quest, or working animals irl.
Didn’t save the Swall either, and while I love the Ventuckers, WoG declared them a ‘useless’ species in the intergalactic high-tech era.

Really, the core problem is the psyche of the Hegemonic Jaxain- Klingons larping as Vulcans.
>>
You have decided to keep the civilian stations unarmed. The concept of using civilian and Hegemony assets not part of the military for militarized means makes sense to you; but it creates too much of a risk. At the end of the day, your entire Supremacy is based on the idea of protection- protecting your people and showing the strength of your empire by letting the Consortium break their teeth against your skin. Putting your vulnerable economic assets in harms way, especially when they can act with impunity otherwise to your ignorant and naive opponents, is foolish. Besides, you can take this opportunity for some breathing room. You are certain that for other space nations- the Esaal, possibly the Aristocrats, space pirates, or the dreaded worms- will not be so kind and merciful to your Jaxtians caught in the crossfire. May as well take advantage of the opportunity.

...But you are no fool. You will still take whatever advantage you can; and using your civilian bases to their maximal effect in this system. We'll use them as docking bays, medical wings, repair and resupply hubs, storage facilities for weapons, and keep our AI cores nice and cool in their computer labs. You'll squeeze every inch out of the Consortium's "maritime law" you can and use it to your benefit. So you won't arm the civilians- but their presence will still help you greatly in the upcoming battle.

You have also decided on the next project of research- Laser Cooling for your artillery. While the Nan shipyards are still pumping out useful Crusiers using your current design standards- too late in time and cost prohibitive to change it for the entire military fleet- your artillery is much smaller and more specalized. Located only on The Stand- these powerful laser turrets were very helpful in the second wave against the Consortium- and you hope they'll also be useful in the third. Finding better ways to cool them off may also have a knock-on effect to your research of other weapons in the future. Unfortunately, as soon as you check in on the project- you find Maktana III, your current Overseer of Science, busy dicking around on a totally different planet.

"Maktana III... please explain why you are not getting all hands on deck for this weapon research?"
"I am sorry, my Lord. My specialty was never in the military or physical sciences. All of my genetic ancestors focused on genetic research and bio-sciences. As is my specialized field..."
"You are still a brilliant researcher- and more important an administrator. So why are you on Xin?"
"It's the biosphere of the planet, Sir. It's... dying."
>>
Because of the previous Supreme Ruler's decision to use Xin as a bio-product producing world, the planet's fragile ecosystem has been almost depleted. Maktana III explains further.

"Xin was never naturally able to support life. Only as a result of many years from the terraforming project, pink bacteria, and Blue-Hazaar labor over generations were able to get the planet to a point where it became habitable. While the planet was in the exact habitable zone and had liquid water- it still didn't have the biosphere to develop life. Over the past few centuries- work has been done to supply this planet with nutrients and a microbe ecosystem to support more complex life. The constant labor of the Hazaari sustained it. However, over the past 25 years, after it became stable, the planet has been used for bio-products. Industrial levels of textiles, food production, medicine, genetic research materials, plants designed to process base-level phosphates, harvesting for bio-cubes to seed planetary installations, things like that. The great purge of Blue-Hazaar greatly enriched the soil of this planet with billions of corpses. But all of that nutrient and organic mass has since been all but depleted. The planet only has had life for a scant few hundred years in total- a fraction of the time of most habitable worlds. Yes, the Blue-Hazaar genocide seeded the fields and valleys with calories and nitrogen, but all of our other habitable worlds have billions of years worth of extinction events to enrich the soils and limestones. Other habitable planets have hundreds of millions of species in a complex web of life- the extinction of one is a footnote. Xin has a few dozen species specially designed for it- if any went extinct it would be a disaster."
"What does this mean for Xin? Are you safe to be on the surface right now?"
"Oh no, my Lord, there is no immediate problem. All biospheres are inherently very stable- with checks and balances found in the living things. If the plants begin to die off, less oxygen will be produced as waste, so more of the oxygen-consuming microbes will die off, releasing massive amounts of CO2, thus boosting plant growth, and so on. But this planet is now entering a death spiral. The planet's atmosphere will no longer be breathable in 50 years, requiring face masks just to be outside. In another 100 years past that, the planet will require a pressurized suit, just like the barren rock it began as. We will have lost our first great scientific project."
"...Surely, this can be fixed."
"It can. But you won't like the trade offs.."

>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)
>Carry on as is (Xin begins its death spiral)
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
Damn.
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
The science projects weren't huge. The Stand is a stupid rock at the end of the day. This is more important.
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
The work on this solution should surely benefit future environmentsl issues that are similiar. Well worth, if poorly timed.
>>
>>5884518
>>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
Sucks but we've invested too much
>>
>>5884518
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)

We’re going to war no way can we suspend research for a year
>>
>>5884518
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)
I am fairly certain we can afford an economic downturn for a single bloody year. We're a command economy. The war is more important.
>>
>>5884518
>>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
Caring for the environment of a world we live on is a core Jaxtian value, isn't it? One of the only ones that isn't died directly to violence or domination?
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)

this will be useful for the future to either prevent or CAUSE similar issues.
and letting this fallow and die a whole planet generations of labor would be a great blow to our power and morale and well our bio production.
hmmm what if instead of just physics weapons we do some bio weapons? engineered invasive species, parasites, insects/bugs great practice for engineering biospheres
>>
>>5883383
>>5884520
Will change my vote to
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)
>>
>>5884568
>I am fairly certain we can afford an economic downturn for a single bloody year.
Nothing says that the economic downturn will only last a year, unless Bananas confirms otherwise. It only says that the scientific setback will last a year.
>>
>>5884518
>>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
>>
>>5884518
>Carry on as is (Xin begins its death spiral)
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
>>
>>5884868
also a world dying seems permanent and takes alot of effort for hundreds of years to restore
>>
>>5884518
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)
Since we lack any sort of financialization, economic downturn can only mean material shortages. We've been through worse conditions and regardless of that, our coming conquest of the Consortium will, eventually, make up for the used resources.
Fucking double captcha
>>
>>5884333
>It begins.
Wouldn't be a Monkequest thread without disturbing /pol/shit discussion now would it?
>>
>>5884518
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)

More then anything else, this is a sign we probably picked the wrong speciality for the planet to start with - we have Andoen and Vetuck for any biological products already. Keeping Xin as a bio-product producer long term probably won't work, and we can't afford to neglect our sciences in other areas mid-war. Perhaps more then just leaving it fallow we need to Re-designate Xin as a:

>Vacation / Pleasure World

The romance of pink skies, the first Jaxtian terraforming project, and more importantly, a light biological touch that won't take any further resources from the fragile biosphere?

Either that, or we think of something else to do with the world that won't ecologically deplete the planet any further?
>>
>>5884518
Question- if we choose Economic Downturn, will we be able to research a solution later? Or is this one of the permanent choice things, like how we never introduced the Ventucker predator as a guard/war beast?
>>
>>5884249
>>5884333
>>5884343
>>5884424
>>5884450
Shut up faggots
>>
>>5885133
There was that option of being a primative planet with no advanced tech. Could do that. Maybe get some cultural gains by retvrning to Monke.
>>
>>5885133
Honestly not a terrible idea you have my support.

>Leave Xin alone converting it into a vacation world.
>>
>>5885184
Or perhaps a 'reserve world'? There's bound to be thousands of species the Jaxtians made extinct on their homeworld before the Hegemony arose, if we preserved anything of them perhaps we could try and re-create them on Xin?
>>
>>5884518
>Leave Xin fallow (Economic downturn)
Just find another use for it, like tourism or testing grounds
>>
>>5884518
>Prioritize a Scientific Solution to Xin (Suspend Science Research one year)
>>
>>5885089
well we do exterminate all animals who are a bother to us and enslave/breed/castrate/mutate then throw away the ones that where useful once.
>>
Part of the purpose of this thread's slow start was to act as a recap and bring people back up to speed given the long time gap between this and the previous mainline thread.

Is there anything else you'd like recapped or touched on? It's easy for me to remember everything more or less since it's constantly in my mind while I was planning this thread and the various notes I've kept, but I realize it isn't fair to expect you all to remember every single thing since the previous thread. I'll also use this to stall for time before the next REAL update.
>>
>>5885537

>Is there anything else you'd like recapped or touched on?

The Haazar vassal worlds. Did you ever go into detail about the number of systems and their composing planets; do any provide anything significant to the Hegemony as a whole?
>>
>>5885537
Whatever happened to Bluey? Is he still alive?
>>
>>5884518
>Carry on as is (Xin begins its death spiral)

Fuck Xin. Always causing problems because it was a disgusting hazaar home
>>
>>5885537
I’d like >>5885145 answered if you don’t mind.

Otherwise, I’m just curious want would’ve happened had we chosen war-profiteering as the Leeray?
>>
File: file.png (2.1 MB, 2220x997)
2.1 MB
2.1 MB PNG
>>5885610
>Where is Bluey? Is he safe? Is he alright?
>>
>>5885610
Alive and well, probably. he's one of or magic machine-perfected Uber Jaxtians now, like Cijan and Jale. He had a kid with Kima, who's a billionaire in the HVS.
>>
>>5885807
>who's a billionaire in the HVS
Her ancestors must be rolling in their graves
>>
>>5885807
This reminds me, did Cijan have children? The AI had that entire retarded plan to make him have kids because of his giga genes, and now he's got even better ones.

Surely the Threemind should have gotten some other women to have perfect kids with him now that Kima is out of reach, right?
>>
>>5885826
Kinja was also fabulously wealthy.
>>
>>5885887
Yeah but that was because he was like, an media entrepreneur, no? He wasn't an actual business mogul capitalist who monopolized an industry.

The HVS sucks, anyway. Too many tubefaces. If it had more of other aliens it'd be better. Maybe if we conquer the consortium we could make it into a vassal state without them.
>>
You have decided to go for a scientific solution to Xin's death spiral. Maktana III and his team get to work finding out an optimal solution. In the end, the result does work- it's simply very boring. Changing the nitrogen based protein bases into alternative silicates, rebalancing and recombining the glucose cycles of various plants to be more efficient and less greedy, and specialized crop-rotation in the coastal regions to make full use of the pink bacteria blooms in the oceans of the terraformed planet. It's not expensive, or really that difficult, but it does a take an awfully long time. Your science projects will be delayed for a year.

Year 66 of the Resurrection Era
While managing your empire and going over the future battle plans at The Stand- your head admiral, Hass Takar, recently appointed to the position, approaches you with a low smile.

"Hello, your Majesty. May I make a request?"
"What is it, Hass?"
"I wish to duel with you. To first blood- not to the death, of course."
"Hmm? That is a large request to make of anyone- much less the Supreme Ruler."
"I know, my lord. But you are the superior duelist to me- you are the foremost expert in the Hegemony on combat and especially kinetic psychology. I feel there is much I could learn from you that may translate into a battlefield setting. I know I will lose- but I will try to at least give you a challenge. What say you?"

As another member of Jaxtian nobility, Hass Takar is in a position to usurp the throne by killing you in a duel. However, he specifically did not challenge you to a death-duel; simply a friendly sparring match with a little higher stakes. Pride- and learning. But there is a possibility, however small, that he may be lying to you. After all, if he kills you in a "friendly" duel, then he can simply claim it was a duel to the death and take over the Hegemony. It's a possible attempt at a betrayal to lower your guard- and while you don't think for a second he could beat you in a real duel to the death, this could be a trick of some kind.

His reasoning for asking for this duel in the first place is sound- and could actually improve his leadership skills. It is even admirable to a dueling expert and psychologist like yourself. But he could just be saying exactly what you want to hear. Is there any reason you may doubt Hass Takar's intentions? Does he have something worth fighting for, something to keep him loyal to the Hegemony- or is he simply throwing it all down in an attempt to seize power for himself?

What should you do?
>Accept the friendly duel request
>Deny him and stay safe
>>
>>5885917
And, here it is...this is why I didn't want to pick personal glory. It's always a trap choice. There isn't one vote that doesn't have a trap choice.
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
Sure could be a trap, but could lead to a bro who is our admiral, I dont think weve done anything to piss off anyone in house recently even if dueling leaves the amulet up for grabs I dont believe he has any reason to screw us over personally
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
Why not feed the ego?
>>
>>5885924
I dont want our first Alpha Supreme who isn't an bipolar schizo getting killed so early.
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
Best to show some balls- besides, since this isn’t an inheritance duel, it shouldn’t automatically go to him, only our designated successor.

>>5885852
It would make sense for the computer to get Kima a bunch of sisters beforehand, since the gene was so useful- but I’m gonna say no and classify that under ‘Monke autism’, in which once a decision has been made, it will be treated as a permanent solution adhered uncompromisingly by the Hegemony, until revision.

>>5885923
Should’ve named him Admiral Ackbar Takar ;^)
>>
>>5885927
This Supreme is bipolar schizo though- he’s just more manic depressive and not ‘don’t give a fuck’ old yet.
>>
>>5885930
I don't see him ripping people apart with his bare hands like a chimpanzee.
>>
>>5885924
We actually did, we degraded the significance of the prominent houses in our society and diverted a lot of money from them to help our economic downturn earlier. It's possible he could be seeking revenge for that.
>>
And young monkey is apparently a quick witted knife master who has studied the Supremes' technique, so if the Supreme underestimates him and the quick young monkey does surprise speed he might win. On the other hand, the Supreme can idly ask 3-mind if Takar is really interested in a friendly duel or is out for murder, and who 3-mind thinks would win in a duel. Social predictions are what it does. Trust Friend Computer.
>>
>>5885931
Yet ;)

We haven’t seen him personally pissed off yet, and besides, he did acknowledge he isn’t a ‘proper Alpha’, which does indicate he should be more manic-schizo than his usual manic depressive self.

>>5885932
While I doubt (given the whole Pride vs Family debate before), that would just make me like him more. That decision was idiotic and arguably OOC considering the ideological ‘Supreme’ mindset discussed earlier in the quest, especially in light of the fact the HVS was ripe for more exploitation.

>>5885937
Just avoid all that and declare Maktana as designated Supreme in case of an untimely death, just to avoid the incentive.
>>
>>5885917
>>Accept the friendly duel request
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
>>
>>5885943
>Just avoid all that and declare Maktana as designated Supreme in case of an untimely death, just to avoid the incentive.
I don't think we can do that. I mean, we're Supreme, so we can do WHATEVER WE WANT, but I think he ACCEPTED tradition and social expectation is that any Supreme killed in a knife-fight OWES the killer the opportunity to be the next Supreme. That social expectation was so great that Cijan was SHOCKED that Kima didn't take the amulet, even though she was a woman and not 100% entitled to the privilege. Cijan had even just ACCEPTED that, "yeah, she killed me, she deserves to be Supreme Leader of the Jaxtian empire, vagina be damned."
>>
>>5885917
>>Accept the friendly duel request
I miss Cijan, his genetics were the GOAT
>>
>>5885989
I mean, Cijan also killed or exiled the other Supreme Candidates in the line of succession, plus the fact that the machine only recognized him as the rightful Supreme Ruler even after he died means that it just ain’t that simple. Like, are we to believe that some random shmuck could duel the Supreme for the title?

Besides, while I sympathize with tradition and social expectations from our monkes, we firmly threw that baby out with the bathwater of the nobility of our traditions.
>being born at the perfect time to witness the change from the current Supreme Ruler's choice regarding your race's long and noble traditions being put down in exchange for humility and egalitarian teaching
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request

If he kills us, he earned it. Maybe our choices have pissed him off. Maybe he'd do a better job?
>>
>>5885917
>>Accept the friendly duel request
>>
>>5885917
>Deny him and stay safe
>>
>>5885917
>>Accept the friendly duel request
>Broadcast it with conditions exposed beforehand to the Hegemony
>>
>>5886105
+1
We can do it, but let's not be stupid.
>>
>>5886105
sounds interesting
>>
>>5886105
I’d rather we die than undermine everyone’s confidence in the Supreme Ruler- this is supposed to be a friendly duel, and besides, the computer is always with us on the Supeme’s necklace, so Hass can’t even retroactively claim it was a duel to the death anyway.
>>
Wouldn’t broadcasting then losing basically be a blow to the entire ideology holds up Spes Monke society? Like it would legitimately cause an existential crisis that could be the end of our empire? Are you anons sure you want to broadcast this?
>>
Broadcasting is retarded

It's very simple, if he dies, Hass becomes the supreme. It doesn't really matter what we claim otherwise.
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request

>>5886105
I'd rather not do this.
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
Has past behaviour hasn't indicated a desire to rule or to reform, he wants the glory of being a Hero. He wasn't even certain about being an Admiral yet.

And let's not forget 'I don't want to be praised for doing something that was simple and easy.', as said to Jemma Ontam in Dreams. He wants to earn his glory through hard work, prove himself; not just do an easy thing and be rewarded.

I bluntly think that if he wanted the Hegemony he'd have issued a formal duel to the death here, not a request for a friendly spar.
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
>>
>Accept
I think Hassar is an interesting character so even if he does become Supreme it's no big loss
>>
>>5885917
>Accept the friendly duel request
This anon >>5886252 has convinced me
>>
Rolled 1 (1d2)

You accept his terms. After all, it is just a friendly spar. Maybe he could learn a thing or two.
>>
>>5886728
Grab him buy the jowls, Hass!
>>
You spar with Hass. In Jaxtian dueling culture- there are many types of duels. From pointwork exercises, to point-based competitions with ink-knives, to dull knife sparring practicing against lethal strike points, knife executions, to practice sparring with real blades, to first blood, tail cutter, and to the death- each one getting progressively more serious, ceremonially significant, and dangerous to both combatants. To ask anyone to practice with live blades or higher takes a considerable amount of trust and social standing to accomplish- only capable by those in the same family or highly trusted social circles. Significant risk of injury and pain otherwise.

Hass is not a friend, but he is an admiral. He's important to your cabinet. You also know he is an inferior duelist- which helps with your position.

You go into the duel with the full intent to teach- not humiliate or lord your skill over his. After all- it's not exactly fair. You are trained in multiple weapons- he only one. You are an Alpha, he is a normal man. While he may have some insignificant genetic advantage by being part of the standard Jaxtian template infused with alien DNA- you don't think that will factor in.

Whipping the blade against you hard- his forward attacks are more to make up for his perceived lack of skill. While your Alpha body makes you a sure win in actual combat- this is more about grace and speed. A simple scratch will win this bout, and nothing more. You pull back, letting him come closer and giving you easy access-

And then he makes the Eoba's Instep. You cad. The move forces him closer- well within your zone of control. There is a great risk here- you can only pull this off in a real duel if you are one hundred percent certain you can end your opponent before they can take advantage of putting your whole body into their striking range. But it is a smart move- making up for his lack of reach by getting up close. Since he knows you won't respond lethally, he is forcing you to concede or draw. It does annoy you partially- though you can't fault his bravery. To teach him a lesson, you respond by a quick cut against his face- your first blood against him will be in a place he can remember you be. Such is the punishment for such forwardness against the Supreme Ruler. He threw his blade out without thinking- you step in to your cut- just a second before he makes contact and cuts you too.

You cut each other- the bout is over. He steps back out of range again, lowering his blade, feeling the wet painful cut along his face.

"I gave you something to remember me by, Hass. I hope this was as enlightening as you had hoped."

Hass bows respectfully- he took some of your time and patience. You maybe could have taught him more or extended the practice- but you won't let him beat you in a bout with such an arrogant display.

"Thank you Master." He replies with respect- before noticing the cut on your chest.
>>
Instantly, his disposition changes. You see it in his body language. He tenses up- expecting more action, more combat. His face changes too- the subtle surge of confidence and ego building up. His testosterone flares- his grip hardens against his blade, sending an all-too obvious sign up his arm, his fur flexing like a cat ready to pounce. You can see it in him before he even makes the decision in his mind- you know he's going to try for more now.

“...Shall I call security, your Majesty?” Threemind chirps from the nearest terminal- ready to intercede. You raise your hand subtly- the queue to leave it. You will teach this whelp his lesson yourself, if it comes to that. The Threemind goes silent.

”-Is this the infamous Takar ambition, I see? I did not sense then in you when you entered this room. So quickly you decide to throw your life away.”
”Bantam- I- I challenge you!”
”Don't do it, Hass! You are a fool!”

Instantly- the duel becomes lethal. Hass rushes forward, newly invigorated with speed and killer intent. This will not help him. You sidestep his first blows, and deflect his knife blade. You didn't want to kill him- but if need be you will. His defense is too shorn up- and he's too smart to try the Instep again, especially after just doing it in your less serious bout.

The time it took you to decide what to do with Hass was only a knife's edge- only a moment of hesitation before you decided to put him down. The fact he went through with it at all was enough of a reason- but now you are sure of it in your mind. He wants to do a dirty trick on you? You open your hand and reach from an angle he didn't expect, grabbing your furred Alpha hand around his head. Within a second, he goes slack- realizing that he has already lost. He is already dead- his eye shoot open in surprise and fear.

Now is the moment. His skull, thin like an eggshell, is in your titanic grip. You didn't need a blade to kill him- your strength is more then enough. You are an Alpha male Jaxtian- and the Supreme Ruler. You are the violator Supreme. You are the Son of the Unspeakable. Simply flex your muscles thusly- and he will die- his skull crushed under your fingers.

Mash his brains into the floor. Make him unable to move and break him down- watch the life fade from him as he realizes no mercy will be given. When two males fight- this is the end result- the stronger will prevail. Put your foot on his corpse and beat your chest. Kill his children, rape his women, take his land and property. The absolute murderous instinct at the core of all Jaxtians- of all primates. Unleash your strength! You have triumphed! This is your genetic destiny- your reward for your fitness!

KILL! KILL HIM NOW!!!
>>
File: Spoiler Image (128 KB, 750x1060)
128 KB
128 KB PNG
Next update tomorrow.
>>
File: file.png (176 KB, 270x394)
176 KB
176 KB PNG
oh wow, and to no one's surprise he killed him. totally not a trap option bro. it wouldn't end like this. bananas doesn't do that.
>>
Wow who could've seen this coming? This wasn't clearly what was going to happen at all? At least we didn't broadcast it.
>>
>>5887124
the worst part is that we'll probably never get the chance to have an alpha supreme again because the only 'natural' supremes are from a single bloodline that got the right to avoid the vetucker gene and we just killed our last one of them. All of the new alphas are too dumb to be supreme-tier, sadly.
>>
>>5887113
The only way to restore the honor of the nobility I'm afraid.
>>
>>5887134
ah yes, because that's just what we need on the eve of a war - a coup d'etat.
>>
>>5887113
Akule's Standing Execution
>>
>>5887134
He isn't doing this for them, he's doing it for his own personal glory.
>>
File: monke screen3.png (318 KB, 1106x1012)
318 KB
318 KB PNG
>>5887127
The Falathanes are an entire family. Several Supreme Rulers have died without heirs but their family line continues in their relatives. The Falathanes were partially created/retconned to be "pureblooded" Jaxtians specifically to avoid limited player selection in future events- like if you decided to make all Jaxtians Indigo or take away their tails for increased intelligence, etc.
>>
>>5887162
But how many of them have an alpha gene? It's not like they can get it from outside the family, all the alphas have the vetucker gene in them.
>>
>>5887163
Surely we can do some funky genetic stuff to 'revive' the supreme-alpha gene. Our civilization loves scientific research and genetics.
>>
>>5887168
We don't usually get options to reverse something we did before, liek some anon pointed out.
>>
>>5887113
Yeah not a offical duel for the position just a duel turned murder let's call in the doctors
>>
>>5887112
Good job.

Retards who voted to duel or didn't vote to stop it don't have a right to complain. Shut the fuck up and keep it to yourselves.
>>
>>5887192
I quite literally warned you that this would happen
>>
>>5887192
I woke up to like 10 retards voting to duel and so I decided that it would be a waste of time to try to argue against it. The only thing that could be stopped was the even more retarded idea to broadcast it which somehow got a few votes.
>>
>>5887192
>noooo the big monke died
who cares? the hegemony will live on
>>
>>5887192
>>5887124
>>5887127
I'm glad this happened, to be honest. I like Hass more than Bantam, the dramatic dueling tradition is a fun setting element, and bantam's psychological hangups were neat but were impeding his ability to think clearly at times. Plus, it makes for a fun story.
>>
>>5887229
No, this was wayyy too early. Bantam barely managed to do anything interesting.
>>
>>5887112
Well, whatever. Bantam was my least wanted pick for Supreme anyways.
>>
There’s a lot of coping going on right now.
>>
>>5887289
If you say so. I voted for the duel half-expecting this.
>>
>>5887292
Then you’re a retard. Even if you like the other guy as a leader better this is the absolute worst time to switch leadership. We’re about to go to war and now we have to deal with the bullshit of changing rulers.
>>
>>5887311
Maybe in a conventional power structure and social system, that's a problem. It's not such an issue in a Hegemony that has been rendered compulsively, utterly obedient, with no chance for disobedience or rebellion, no matter who is in charge or what we do. That was the effect of Wrix's genocides.
>>
>>5887315
We're still going to have to update everything. He was the Admiral. Now we need a new one. And we need to catch up on all the shit he was doing.
>>
Ah, it ain’t a Bananas thread without a shitstorm.

Shame about Falathane- I did like his manic depressive ass. Would’ve been a great life-pod candidate.

Bit weird on Hess’ part, considering the side-story shit, but I guess he was bullshitting to get points with the lady. This’ll definitely be a controversial supreme.

>>5887171
Monke ‘tism- fucks everything up all the time.

>>5887342
Nah- this Supreme will take full control of the defense anyway, being the gloryhound that he is. And when he inevitably fucks it up and loses the Stand, the monkes are gonna go apeshit on his ass.
>>
>>5887353
They can't, but yes, it's obvious he's going to forcibly be retarded. We basically already lost the war. We're not gonna get a choice to save it because he'll just pull "muh glory" at the last moment and fuck it up.
>>
>>5887353
>Bit weird on Hess’ part, considering the side-story shit, but I guess he was bullshitting to get points with the lady.
I think it was the sudden instinctive thrill of seeing he'd drawn blood and really COULD be top monke. Bananas ahs stated in quest and in QTGs that he sees this striving for power through violence as intrinsic to male primates.

>>5887360
Glory-chasing never stopped the Eobas from being awesome and effective.
>>
>>5887367
Yeah but the Eobas were grade A badasses, this guy is just some gloryhound chump.
>>
>>5887373
As the youths say: "hold on, let him cook."
>>
You clutch your neck as the blood drains from your body- you're done. You already knew it as soon as your grip loosened- letting Hass go free. Something stopped you from crushing his skull into paste- you had the physical strength for it. You always thought you were a warrior- but you guess the killer instinct wasn't as strong as you as you first thought.

You fall to your knees. Despite the lethality of the cut- your body is too strong to give up so easily. You stare up at the Takar, who stands triumphant over you. But he isn't gloating or confirming the kill- he is simply standing there. Much of the fire in him from that moment of ambition is gone now. He isn't sorry- but his eyes seem to carry a mix of pity and uncertainty. Probably because he also knows that you could have beat him. He knows you should have won that fight. Why did he win? Guess he'll never know. As for yourself, you don't have much time to figure it out yourself...
>>
You are now Hass Takar and you are the Supreme Ruler of the Hegemony. You have chosen your imperial robe's color to be a noble, forest green- for Nobility.

There will be some questions to be answered- both for the public and for the Hegemonic control- the faceless and impersonal bureaucratic hoards that keep the Hegemony running smoothly. You'll need to make an official address soon- preferably before your coronation. Then, you'll have to take account of everything in the Hegemony and clean up any of the mess that Bantam left for you. You'd like to get this new administration up and running as quickly as possible- but a change of power like this is never going to be 100% smooth...

In the meantime; what should you emphasize in your first address to your new empire?
>Old leader was weak
>We are returning to Traditions
>Changing the focus away from warfare and conflict (Leave the Stand)
>This Empire is mine!
>>
Well, i can definitely tell this guy is going to be a shit ruler from day one. We should have gotten rid of the nobility for real when we had the chance.
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!

Might as well make a cult of personality. It’ll be an interesting ride.
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
retvrn
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!
>>
>>5887945
>Changing the focus away from warfare and conflict
The Consortium isn't an actual threat like the Cyte is. The Stand is mostly an Falklands tier dick measuring contest.
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
This seems fun
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions

Retvrn
>>
>>5887945
>We must become the most powerful Empire of all time! Our ideals must triumph over those of our enemies!
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!

Time to will this empire to glorious victory by sheer force of will.
>>
>>5887945
>>We are returning to Traditions
>>
>>5888073
>>5888157
griggas
>>
>>5888158
We're gonna bring back THE JUBILENT SLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE!
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
And maybe make some new ones!
>>
>>5887945
>>5887975
You know what fuck it. Changing my vote to
>This Empire is mine!
>>
>>5888157
>>5888158
1 PBTID because moving for work related reason.
Am this retard >>5886105
If that's not good enough for you, suck it. If that's not good enough for Bananas I can tripfag
>>
>>5887945
A recommendation I use in my quest.
For votes with more than one option, use approval voting. Each player picks any number of options they like, and then the option with the highest total votes wins.
This keeps options with small pluralities from winning even if the majority of voters don't want it.
It's also simpler to do in a quest format without the reproportion of ranked choice.
It also avoid the scenario where someone wants an option but because it's not one of the too two, they don't pick what they truly want because it would be a "wasted vote."
>>
>>5887999
This is me.
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
>>
>>5888273
And just to avoid running afoul of 1 post IR rules
Changing the focus
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!
Alright fine I'll change to this one. Cult of personality seems more in character.

I'm >>5888145
In case my ID changed.
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
Kling On to the Old Ways. After all, it is only by the Traditions that you have power instead of a sentence for regicide.
>>
>>5888073
>>5888157
Not Griggas

>>5888276
>>5888294
Griggas
>>
>>5887970 Mine 1
>>5887973 Mine 2
>>5887975 changed to >>5888249 Mine 3
>>5887985 Mine 4
>>5887999 is >>5888273 Change 1
>>5888001 Traditions 1
>>5888073 Traditions 2 (1post)
>>5888145 changed to >>5888356 Mine 5 (1post)
>>5888153 Mine 6
>>5888157 is >>5886105 Traditions 3
>>5888246 Traditions 4
>>5888276 Traditions 5
>>5888294 Traditions 6 (1post)
>>5888386 Traditions 7 (1post)

This means "The Empire is mine!" has 6 votes, 5 without 1post IDs without backlinks to multipost IDs. Traditions has 7 votes, but if you remove the same sorts of votes it has only 4.

I'll formally change my vote at >>5888246 to
>The Empire is mine!
making the vote either 7 to 6 for Mine or 6 to 3, depending how you count it. The cult of personality angle sounds fun and novel.
>>
>>5887945
I don't know what's worse, a return to being a glorified aristocratic oligarchy or becoming even more of a cult of personality for this dude. His ego is already up through the roof.
>>
>>5888403
At least a cult of personality is interesting. An aristocratic return to tradition is so clear about what it's going to be. That tropes been played out and we're pretty close to at least the oligarchic part anyways.
>>
>>5888406
Yeah, but it's probably gonna lead to him becoming a stalin-tier lunatic. He's probably also gonna do a bunch of dumb shit at the stand to get 'muh grorious battle''
>>
>>5888401
Ironically, I don’t really consider this an important vote

And we already did the cult of personality- what do you think the Mask arc was?

>>5888403
How about shitting on our predecessor? I liked the Alpha, but that option is relatively apolitical, and could be narratively interesting, considering Hass knows the truth.

>>5888406
The cult is boring- we already did that arc. Like, with our luck he’ll try and one-up the blonde supreme and take out the Mask outta a power trip to become another ‘Unspeakable’.

>>5888410
Yep- many dumb things larping as smart. Klingons and Vulcans, etc etc.
>>
>>5888432
We had no real control during the mask arc, which made it less interesting and less fun. I hope this will be different. We'll see!
>>
>>5888436
I doubt it- Hass was interesting not wanting to be an admiral, and potentially restoring his family into traditional nobility. Now he 180ed and he’s just a two-bit wannabe Hitler- like, maybe him exploring why Bantam let him live and his feelings of inadequacy will be interesting, but him going full cult again and refusing to restore Monke traditions makes this Supreme a wash. It’ll be more autism than anything worthwhile, going from experience.
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
>>
>>5888451
Hitler is a bad reference, this guy looks like he's going to be some wannabe napoleon III, except without any of the good domestic policies.
>>
I voted to become less warlike because frankly the Hegemony's gotten a bit too grimdark for my taste, and I would like to see them trend more to the "Benevolent Dictator Philosopher King" style model as opposed to the "Edgelord Scifi Hitlerstalin" vibe thru have had for the last few threads.
>>5888432
>>
>>5888469
We’re playing as genocidal eugenic monkes who’s culture cult-worships a Hitler centuries ago. It’s an apt reference, especially for someone glory and power hungry in such a culture.

>>5888475
Largely agree, though I imagine a return to Noblesse Oblige is included to a return of tradition- I remember how we were in the good ol’ days taking baby steps into this dark universe.
>>
>>5888487
It's not an apt reference because there's literally nobody left to genocide. This is all just an ego project. Hass is an narcissist, not a racist.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (991 KB, 749x921)
991 KB
991 KB PNG
>>5888451
>>5888469
>>5888475
>>5888487
>>5888495
My thinking is that Hass expressed (in Dreams) a desire to have something which is truly HIS, and is earned, and to prove he deserves it. The admiralty is something he fell into. The seat of Supreme is something he seized. I'd like to see him make himself worthy of it, even if it's for self-obsessed reasons. And maybe he can invite his nut-thief crush to serve at his side and bring some positive energy into the office and society that way.
>>
>>5888495
There’s an entire universe to genocide- the war propaganda writes itself, and that’s before the Mask enables a war of annihilation WW2 style. First would be the Anschluss of the HVS. The next? Worm Wars!
>>
>>5888503
Well he's clearly gone off the deep end and into the narcissism pot.
>>
>>5887945
>>This Empire is mine!
>>
>>5888487
If I recall the nobles were more like Russian oligarchs than chivalric orders. Like it's not even like Japan or the UK where there was a MYTH of the nobility looking out for the common good. They were just straight-up world noble tier.
>>
>>5888561
I don't think the houses of the supremacy are full on Tenryubiito tier yet, but i wouldn't be surprised if this guy allowed them to go that far.
>>
File: monkeson.png (42 KB, 721x789)
42 KB
42 KB PNG
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!
I AM -GOD- HERE
>>
>>5888590
>no white diamond
>>
File: done.png (100 KB, 636x698)
100 KB
100 KB PNG
>>5888621
>>5888590
>>
File: 1702257302284400.jpg (91 KB, 720x732)
91 KB
91 KB JPG
Deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill was a mistake.
>>
>>5887945
I want to vote for leaving the Stand, but in the interest of actually swinging things...

>We are returning to Traditions

In the future I think >>5888270 could be a good idea.


Backlink: >>5887281
>>
File: Spoiler Image (299 KB, 982x1400)
299 KB
299 KB PNG
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!
>>
>>5888825
Can't tell if she enjoys or not at the end
>>
>>5887945
>This Empire is mine!
Dont really want him changing focus claiming weakness or return to tradition
>>
>>5887945
>We are returning to Traditions
Anons going full Unspeakable? This'll never end well.

>>5888825
So long as my boy Yino is getting bitches and ain't getting cucked, I don't really care about Jemm
>>
The voting is now closed. "This Empire is mine!" is the winner.
>>
>>5888825
Oh, oh no.
>>
File: grab em.png (344 KB, 768x392)
344 KB
344 KB PNG
>>5888825
What a great guy.
>>
>>5888825
Oh. Well, so much for a more whole "making himself worthy of what he desires" angle in >>5888503. We really can't have nice things anymore, not even the kind of "nice" like when Hass' ancestor/predecessor cheated on his wife with Talacent's mom, but at least he was a good husband and father otherwise and not a rapist. Man, I miss having the possibility of likeable MCs in this quest.
>>
>>5889074
The issue is that people here haven't learned that monke quest operates on Murphy's Law. If something wrong can happen, it will. And not only that, it'll usually happen in the worst way possible.
>>
File: 1690072555945.jpg (205 KB, 1024x1024)
205 KB
205 KB JPG
I LOVE SPACE MONKE QUEST, I LOVE TAKING MY DAILY BLACK PILLS, I LOVE KEK PORN, I LOVE MIND BREAK, I LOVE FEMALE DOMINATION, I LOVE COIN FLIPS, I LOVE "HEALTHY" DISCOURSE
>>
Your address to the people? What do you care for them- at least as means to an end. You have successfully eliminated the greatest man in the Hegemony- you are now the greatest! To the victor, go the spoils.

In your address, you state your newfound power and glory- and while giving lip service to the ideals, traditions, and sure improvements to the nationstate; you also make sure to emphasize the surety of your new position.

"If it pleases me, you will live in Class 12 dwellings. If it pleases me, you will eat biocubes. Be prepared to sacrifice for your Supreme Ruler- you have no greater purpose in life then this."

The Jaxtians have experienced this before- a tyrant-king, the Supreme Ruler who puts themself over the nation and the mission of the Hegemony proper. Whether you will remain a tyrant-king is a different story.

Year 67 of the Resurrection Era
Over the past year, you have done nothing but indulge. As a spoiled child who you can no longer hear the word "No", you have experienced and spent every excess mark on your own enjoyment. Every debauchery and luxury. Much of that flows back to the expert craftsmen, artisans, and high-profile trainers back on Jaxt- back into the hands and pockets of the noble families. Though, of course, the Takar's get the most. The Falathanes you give the cold shoulder- after all, they'll be mad at you anyone for cutting short the reign of their fledgling Supreme. Despite how vigorously you attempt your irresponsible streak- one man alone cannot drain the coffers of the mighty Hegemonic economy alone. You make sure to shun and turn away any advisors or heads of state- making sure to punish the ones too adamant on trying to speak with you. You didn't want to be bothered. The progress of your scientific research has been pushed back another year. But after the majority of the year passes... these pleasures and short sided indulgences begin to bore you. On a whim, perhaps, you allow the next advisor an audience.

"Briefly, now."
"T-Thank you, my Lord. It is about the HVS pirate situation. It has devolved."
"Ugh... I knew I was going to regret this..."
>>
"The pirate attacks have gotten much worse- they are doing worse then disrupting the local economies of the HVS- and are attacking shipping lanes, installations, listening posts, and doing more and more. It is still not Hegemony territory proper- but it is getting more aggressive. They come in greater numbers-"
"Stop. I thought Bantam ordered the training fleets to have campaigns thru the HVS to act against the pirates- stopping them and giving valuable experience to our fleets at the same time. What happened?"
"The pirates are much stronger now- enough that a few Hegemony ships have been destroyed- and their crews killed. The pirates are using new weapons- self-guided missiles that seem impossible to hack- and using them to run rampant."
"Still- I hardly see how this is our concern. The HVS is a penal colony to me- nothing more."
"Of course- sire. We could simply ignore the issue- but the pirates have become emboldened. Plus, the closest thing the HVS has to independent leadership, the wealthiest of Hazaar businessmen, are getting very angry with us. They are threatening succession and a total shutdown of the HVS economy."
"Ridiculous. Have them killed."
"...That would require military action, my lord. Some of them have become extremely powerful under the Hegemony's protections. Starfire shipping's CEO alone makes up a sizable portion of the tariff. We could be facing another economic crisis if not taken care of."
"I cannot believe this. Threemind- what is the best course of action here?"

The computer chirps, and then your options are presented.
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)
>Split the fleet from The Stand (takes 1-2 years)
>Contact the pirates and work out a deal (Humiliation + Loss of special resource)
>>
oh gee fucking willikers who would have thought it'd get EVEN WORSE

holy fuck how can you people keep voting for the worst possible option. Kill this nigga already. We're gonna lose the stand because of his degenerate faggotry. He's been the Supreme for two posts and I already hate him more than every other Supreme, including the genocider.
>>
>>5889571
>Contact the pirates and work out a deal (Humiliation + Loss of special resource)
Down this road, I see opportunity. Not for this very disappointing Supreme, but for his replacement by Bluey & Kima's kid
>>
>>5889571
Also, splitting the fleet from the stand will just lead to us losing there. Can't we pull the trade federation move and get the HVS to be better armed? These pirates are clearly being funded better than their own navy.
>>
>>5889571
>Split the fleet from The Stand (takes 1-2 years)
I already knew going into this that anons would fuck this up- this is the best of the worst, since if we lose the Stand the worst would be to our pride.

>>5889579
I ain’t paying the Danegeld- it never works.

>>5889582
Nope- already cemented that decision, monke tism would never allow it.
>>
>>5889115
Poor Jemm deserved better.

>>5888828
Her heart is a tail, so by hentai rules I think she liked it by the end, though.
>>
>>5889571
>>Split the fleet from The Stand (takes 1-2 years)
This is the least shameful failure.
>>
>>5889571
>Contact the pirates and work out a deal (Humiliation + Loss of special resource)
>>
>>5889577
I would [Write In] suicide, but the problem isn’t really the character (even as he sours on me), the problem is ultimately an anon one.
>>
>>5889582
I will allow this. Consider the 4th option to be "Let the HVS arm themselves" which has it's own obvious consequences.
>>
>>5889594
I will change >>5889579 to
>Let the HVS arm themselves
>>
>>5889594
This is an even worse idea- empowering the HVS will just turn this shit into another race war, and Hass has the Mask, so he’ll win though sheer bloody attrition. Splitting the fleet may lose us the Stand, but that’s largely insignificant in the grand scheme of things, being a project borne outta pride and ego.
>>
>>5889571
>Split the fleet from The Stand (takes 1-2 years)
Changed my mind. The Stand sucks. I am still >>5888750/>>5887281.
.
>>
>>5889571
>Contact the pirates and work out a deal (Humiliation + Loss of special resource)
Splitting the fleet is exactly what the Consortium wants, they're probably funding the pirates in the first place, and splitting the fleet will only be a temporary solution that will result in the permanent loss of The Stand, as well as a good portion of our fleet trying to defend it. It will gain us almost nothing. Letting the HVS arm themselves is obviously very bad but I think it's preferable to splitting the fleet, which is unequivocally bad and solves none of our problems.
>>
>>5889612
The Stand is irrelevant- Bantam stated so multiple times. It is a project born outta wounded pride and the desire to avoid introspection. Losing the Stand loses, what? A minor source of Azurium and some minor colonies. It’s a write off, especially with Hass in control of the Hegemony. The research mini-game is irrelevant now- and same with the next Stand mini-game.

Arming the HVS creates a bigger enemy down the line, controlled by amoral Hazzar and Starfire. Paying the Danegeld loses us a strategic resource, humiliates us diplomatically, and does nothing to solve our pirate problem- even if the Consortium isn’t supplying them, they could simply decide to take the free shit and continue raiding, and if it is the Consortium paying them off, that’s and even larger incentive to keep raiding us. It’s a lose-lose situation.

It’s time to mitigate our losses, not make a shit situation worse.
>>
>>5889571
>Split the fleet from The Stand (takes 1-2 years)
>>
>>5889571
Fuck it. Let's get nuts.
>Pull out of the Stand. Kill the Hazaar Leadership minus Bluey if he's still alive and crush the pirates hard enough to send a message about making a buck off of mercenary work against us. Skin their children or... uh... something.
>>
>Losing the Stand loses, what?
Making us appear weak and vulnerable, especially to the THREE biligerant, enemy-aligned space empires literally poised to invade on all three of our borders?
>>
>>5889699
Bright side of having a tyrant-king who squanders GDP on hedonism is that the Aristocrats might warm up to us again.
>>
>>5889699
Compared to losing the entire HVS cluster? The value of the Stand and the HVS are not equal, losing the Stand is a pinprick, losing the HVS to separatists sentiments is a mortal wound.
>>
>>5889711
Ain’t gonna happen- they lost interest because our culture became unauthentic with losing our traditions and becoming less elite, one fuckwit being a degenerate ain’t gonna change their minds about us.
>>
>>5889571
>Let the HVS seceed.
They will honestly be better off outside this guy's control. We cab always reintegrate them under the rule of a competent Supreme.
>>
>>5889745
Also I once again recommend using approval voting for updates with this many options. It keeps votes with small pluralities from winning and encourages people to vote what they truly like instead of what they think has a chance of winning.
>>
>>5889745
If we let them leave, there will be no ‘reintegration’, only reconquest and massive purges- and because of that, I’ll probably vote leave them be and not interact or expand in their direction on humanitarian grounds.
>>
>>5889571
>>Split the fleet from The Stand (takes 1-2 years)
I'm seeing a scenario where this is actually the right option by letting us to capture, analyse, and integrate the new missils in our army.
Bananas, are the Biobots twindling their noodle or are they giving us something on the long-term as was planned?
>>
>>5889827
>You make sure to shun and turn away any advisors or heads of state- making sure to punish the ones too adamant on trying to speak with you. You didn't want to be bothered.
Even if they were giving us something long term, Hass doesn’t give a shit- he’s busy looting and degeneracy.
>>
>>5889838
Him? Yeah. People under? They might not be full retards.
>>
>>5889571
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)
Pretext for genocide 2.0
>>
>>5889635
If we lose the stand, there's no doubt we'll be seen as even weaker. The consortium and the esaal will see this as an sign to move in for the kill.
>>
>>5889571
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)
>>
>>5889697
bit partial to that all or nothing perhaps we could show off our sheer aggression and policy on being attacked is a all out war of annihilation or conquest to slow the stand
>>
>>5889697
>>Pull out of the Stand. Kill the Hazaar Leadership minus Bluey if he's still alive and crush the pirates hard enough to send a message about making a buck off of mercenary work against us. Skin their children or... uh... something.
>>5889571
i am going with this currently i wonder if we could spin it as our reponse to being attacked turning it into a PR win of dont mess with us and our stand
>>
>>5889592
The character was first depicted as determined about wanting to make something of himself and not wanting to take the easy option; he's since taken the 'easy option' on every single choice and left the hegemony a mess because of it. I'd vote for his suicide simply based on such inconsistent characterisation for the guy.
>>
>>5889571
>>5889590
Changing my vote to support
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)
Hedonistic leader can't be fucked to care lmao.

>>5889919
If it gets some traction I'd vote to an hero too.
>>
>>5889914
Jaxtians already have a reputation for mass murder and brutal torture throughout the known universe.
>>
>>5889919
Yeah, bit lame that.
>>
>>5889571
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)

Remember ever retard who voted for the duel this is your fault. If you did this “half-expecting” this is your fault.
>>
>>5890004
I didn't like it, but I didn't think Hass would turn into Wrix 2.0 for no reason either.
>>
>>5890004
I'd do it again too, even with how disappointing it turned out so far, if I knew it would rustle your jimmies this badly.

>>5890005
Agreed. I was okay with Hass-as-characterized running things as a monke seeking fulfillment and self-respect, but am less excited about what we got. Still, he may do something interesting. Bananas said he need not REMAIN a directionless tyrant.
>>
>>5890004
I fully regret my actions. I thought I was being smart by not supporting the televised spar, but the right play was not going for it at all.
>>
>>5889811
>reconquest and massive purges
Only if we vote for that.
>>
>>5889571
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)
>>
Honestly, if we're going to choose to ignore the situation, isn't it better to just let them get their own ships?

If we let them make their own ships, we'll know their weaknesses, abilities, and be able to tell how to defeat them if it ever becomes necessary. If we just ignore it, they'll probably end up teaming up with the pirates eventually to fight *us*, and then we'll have to deal with those missile launchers.
>>
>>5889903
If we lose the HVS cluster, our weakness wouldn’t be just perception, it’d be reality.

>>5889919
Ditto

>>5890016
I already wrote off Hass’s reign as a wash- we ain’t gonna be progressing as an empire, we need to begin triaging right now before the problem exasperates beyond our ability to contain.

>>5890068
It would be inevitable with any separatist push- the only thing that’ll avoid it is if we let the succeed peacefully and never push to control them again.

>>5890093
No- militarizing a state with separatist sentiments is worse than exasperating the problem via ignoring it. Both are shit options though, and I’d prefer it if anons just split the fleet to avoid giving momentum to the separatist movement.
>>
>>5890177
A different Supreme could peacefully annex a seceded HVS or take it over by force without extermination. We have done it before.
>>
>>5890259
Pre-mask? Sure. Post-mask? Yuan was right, the rat bastard- the Jaxian are a primal beast at heart, with the thin veneer of civilized enlightenment. I’ve lost faith in them being civil with other species, and not committing to a race war at a drop of a hat. The degeneration of Hass’s characterization only strengthens that point.
>>
>>5890316
Yuan caused the scenario that led to it, though.
>>
>>5890316
The Jatxians don't have agency. They do what we voted them to. BQ wouldn't have them exterminate the Bazaar without a vote. Remember how BQ let us vote to kill the Season civilians or not?
>>
>>5890338
Yuan write some books, and the Jatxians descended into monkey on monkey violence.
Knife fights and attempted coups we're all Monkey doing.
>>
>>5890339
Not always true. Wrix genocided a bunch of people without our direct say-so, and several other player characters including Talacent, Agori, and Kima) have gone against our wishes or made major life decisions without our permission. Hell, our little buddy Hass is loafing around without our permission.

The quest's characters may not have agency, but Bananas does, and he clearly ahs characterizations and default actions in mind for them which sometimes affect what they do between votes, or even what sort of votes we're permitted to cast or carry out.
>>
>>5890413
True, but the one time a genocide happened without our say-so was when we as players voted for the mask of a genocider and even THAT was considered highly controversial.

What I am saying is, I severely doubt BQM will have us genocide the HVS unless we vote for it or vote for something similar for it (for example to elevate a Supreme with genocidal sentiment.)
>>
>>5890552
Dont give him any ideas this whole quest is just to watch anons squirm because BQ is a solid writer and knows how to hold us accountable for shit we didnt even think about but probably shouldve
>>
>>5889594
teeletubbies
>>
>>5890560
Yeah, that's totally it, its definitely not railroaded and asspulling.
>>
"Do you remember me, Uneo?"
"Oh! H-Hello your Majesty, Lord Supreme- how may I serve you today?"
"Come now, Uneo. Don't you remember when we were in flight school together? You had quite a strong opinion on my skills as a pilot then. You were my year senior and firmly thought I would be "better as a laborer then a captain"- do you remember that?"
"I- Uhh- my lord I- oh- I'm sorry- I"
"Ah bup bup- That's quite alright. I figured, now that I'm the SUPREME and all, I'd return the favor of you giving me such good advice. As of today, your career as a pilot in the fleet is over. I took the liberty of assigning you a new job- a basic laborer. I mean, usually we only assign this to those who don't pass a basic breeding license, but in your case, you may simply have a special talent for replacing damaged equipment and cleaning toilets. ANd I also made sure to remove any chance of advancement- after all, I'd hate for you to not be able to do something you deem in such high esteem."
"O-Oh. T-Thank you, your majesty!"
"You are welcome. Hehehe."

Ran out of time to update today. Have a bonus. I'll tally up the votes later if nobody else does.
>>
>>5890628
Wow, this guy might just manage to collapse a millenia old institution. I think he wins the prize for worst Supreme in the entire history of the hegemony. Not even the literal psychotic bipolar lunatic was as incompetent as this absolute faggot. And we will be forced to play as him for probably the entire thread.
>>
>>5890628
>A couple threads ago
>Current okay/normalish Supreme is assassinated
>We are railroaded into playing as a retarded Supreme with no redeeming values
>Massive shitstorm, everybody biting each others' throats out
>Bananas upset that everybody is mad at him and each other
>Fast forward to this thread
>Current okay/normalish Supreme is assassinated
>We are railroaded* into playing as a retarded Supreme with no redeeming values
>[YOU ARE HERE]

Woo! Hooray!

*As in there was no other option given for who to replace Bantam, and there was zero indication that Hass would be a psychopath retard prior to his ascension
>>
>>5890831
But at least maybe this time we can all band together and vote for him to kill himself? What do you guys say?
>>
It's been literally two days chill.
>>
>>5890845
I hope this means that tomorrow Hass will be assassinated by our savior MECHA-EOBA II
>>
>jaxtians have been subject to (centuries? millenia? idk) of eugenics
>Even the supreme (presumably best of the best) ranges from manlet chud to pseud to extremely petty grade A retard
with those kinds of brains, I'm impressed the original jaxtians managed to figure out how to make a fire and how to sharpen a rock
>>
File: 1704629272220676.gif (3.42 MB, 640x426)
3.42 MB
3.42 MB GIF
>>5890845
I feel this.
>>
>>5890845
Honestly BQM, does this surprise you? Something like this has happened in most of the threads.
>>
>>5890863
Its almost like eugenics is bullshit.
>>
>>5890636
Does feel a bit like salt in the wound.
>>
>>5889571
>Ignore the situation (Hazaar unrest increases)
>>
>>5890949
Except it *was* working for a pretty considerable amount of time. It's only been recently that we've had to deal with nothing but insane idiots, and that's because they mostly end up taking over due to assassination.
>>
File: file.png (144 KB, 484x242)
144 KB
144 KB PNG
>>5890845
>make the centrall character become extremely incompetent, petty and unlikable
>"wtf why don't you like him"
>>
>>5891139
4chan is a mystery like that sometimes.
>>
>>5891092
we have alot of bypasses for rulership outside the dedicated system i think we had several cases now such as the female ruler and now this in a row it feels like.
>>
>>5891161
We never had a female ruler. Kima rejected the amulet and left for the HVS.
>>
>>5891025
>>5890071
>>5890004
>>5889972
>>5889908
>>5889851
Ignore the situation

>>5889586
>>5889589
>>5889606
>>5889650
>>5889827
Split the fleet

>>5889582
>>5889596
Let HVS arm themselves

>>5889697
>>5889915
Pull out of the Stand and kill Hazaar leaders and pirates

>>5889745
Let HVS seceed

>>5889612
Contact pirates

Apologies in advance if I got something wrong or missed someone.
>>
>>5889571
>Contact the pirates and work out a deal (Humiliation + Loss of special resource)
As for me I'll vote for this. But if there's a tie between splitting the fleet and ignoring the situation I'll support ignoring it.
All of these options suck, but making a deal with pirates and just ignoring it are better than leaving half our fleet to be destroyed.
>>
You have decided to ignore the situation. With a flick of your wrist- Hegemonic forces will pull out and no longer provide any protection to the HVS traders and colonies- you can always sweep them away later. Even better- this avoids a problem you'd have to spend a lot of time having to deal with later- giving you more time to enjoy yourself and run this empire.

“Shall we maximize this action, your Grace?” Your computer chirps. You nod, giving your fleets permission to leave the HVS with missions and shipping contracts unfulfilled, Hegemonic stores, shopping authorities, and tariff-offices quickly looted, and all on route back to the Hegemony. From this, many valuable resources have essentially been directly taken from the Hazaar- simply refusing to redistribute or give them back to their owners as long as they were in Hegemony possession at the time of the withdrawl. At the same time, all debts owed to Hazaar from Hegemonic tax and financial authorities are quietly defaulted, and the money transferred back under Hegemonic control; all long range data and energy beacons are similarly turned off- and in all ways you seek to expend as little possible to the HVS. In other words, they are totally on their own. Yet despite this, Hegemonic government entities and systems remain intact and in control in the HVS- taxes are still expected to be paid, even as the “reward” for that system is removed.

In a way, this has turned a negative into a positive. While small individually, each piece of the HVS you are ignoring and all the entitlements and services you once offered have now gone back and enriched your own empire- the shipments of luxurious fabric, tactile gold, spices and fruits of exotic origin- all comes back to you. Now matter how much you indulge from this- the Hegemony itself has gained a decent amount of income from this action- which can be reinvested in your fleet.

”What are you- you can't- YOU CAN'T DO THIS!!!” The message, from Starfire Shine- a very important Hazaar- falls on deaf ears. ”We're shutting everything down! No more DM for the taxman! We need military support- I need protection! I've worked for this! GET BACK HERE-”

With another wave of your hand- you shut off the transmission- and make sure your AI doesn't bother you with any more chatter from the HVS. The Hazaar are certainly not happy- and you may have set back the slow progress of Hazaar integration into the Hegemony's culture a few hundred years- you aren't bothered much by it. In fact, this was a work of economic genius. You consider it- and then grant yourself a Golden Band for this- the first Supreme Ruler to wear one. You pat yourself on the back.
>>
Given the Hegemony's mostly utilitarian culture and highly motivated, high-efficacy populace- combined with Bantam's humbling of the elite during his short lived reign- there are very few people around who you can talk to about your newfound lifestyle. The finer things in life, the arts, the separation of the lower classes to the higher... At the very least, you find a kindred spirit in the Aristocrat, Ully'Andule.

“Ahh, Hass Takar- welcome back. I have so been enjoying our communiqués. It's nice to see not everyone of your species is a total Square.”
”Thank you, Ully. I have taken your advice on wearing some rings of tactile gold- it feels fabulous against my fur.”
“Of course! Your nervous system may not be as refined as ours when it comes to the sensual, but I think anyone with an appreciation with the finer things can feel the difference. Something the low-borns and lesser worker drones cannot appreciate- that expense and luxury simply feel different.”
”Mhmm. I was curious- last time we spoke, you mentioned something about the Celestial Wine- which we falsely called the Celestial Blood- it has a use?”
“Why... of course. We call it wine, do we not? We drink it.”
”D-Drink a form of Strange Matter?!”
“Of course! It's not harmful, in fact, you could find it quite the experience. Certainly better then any combination of organic molecules- of that I can promise you. This is one of the only luxuries that our upper classes are forbidden from sharing with the lower by any means. It is truly an experience only an Aristocrat is permitted. Here- I'll send you the data on my personal favorite method of preperation...”

Wow- did it say what you think he just did?! The Celestial Wine isn't just a weird research material, but can actually be consumed? And judging by the way the Aristocrat speaks of it in such high eseteem, it must be such an experience... something only fit for a King. Or someone higher then a King- a Supreme Ruler.

Of course, if you consume the Celestial Wine, you won't be able to study it when the next scientific consul comes to ask for your approval on a project- after all, you only have enough in the whole Hegemony for one single glass. But perhaps if you consume it, you will learn something else of equal or greater value. No one can be given such an honor then yourself, after all- and even beyond this, on a more selfish level, you think anything that an Aristocrat gives such high praise must be something very special indeed. What do you do?

>Drink the Celestial Wine
>Save it for research purposes
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
Can we *please* fo something that isn't stupid for once?
>>
>>5891733
>>Save it for research purposes
You do not know how tempted I am to chug the funny juice.
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine

Kek acid trip will make him rethink his actions
>>
I forgot to shrink the last image for filesize.... Archive-sama, forgive me.
>>
>>5891733
>>Save it for research purposes

This Aristocrat is doing some trolling. lol . lmao .
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
>>
>>5891733
I'm sure their modded out biology allows them to safely drink this but I bet if Hass does it- 90% chance literally blows 10% chance he gains starsight and near future vision or some shit.
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
I'm sorry. I know this is probably wrong but I am taking sick car crash pleasure in just how degenerately hedonists Takar is. It's like people who have their sims drown.
>>
>>5891801
But in all seriousness it might kill him so that's a plus .
>>
>>5891804
This honestly makes me want to switch my vote to drinking it, but at the same time it might make him live even longer
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
I know it's bad in the long run but I'm too curious not too
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
At this point I feel like it would be actively OOC not to, lol.
>>
Testing if this is the right IP. I am this voter >>5891801
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine

DRINK THE FORBIDDEN JUICE!
>>
>>5891846
Ok this isnt a single post IP.

Please valdiate this post
>>5891801
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
>>
>>5891733
>drink the wine
celestial purple drank, here we go
>>
>>5891733
>>Drink the Celestial Wine
This is what the character will do.
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
>>5891756
>>5891801
>>5891816
>>5891838
>>5891847
>>5891856
>>5891917
>>5891930
>>5891931
guys is this not literally cosmic gorilla glue that fuses matter? will it not just fucking fuse your intestines to itself and your teeth to your teeth and cheeks so you need to break them apart thats the easy part except all your insides that touches itself is fused shut.
and we lose all the possible research from this that the pink fuckers will not give us more of .
>dont drink gorilla glue
>>
>>5891733
I abstain

>>5891988
Honestly, ‘wine’ may just kill him- or turn him into the Thing, which could disqualify him from being the Supreme since he ain’t a Jaxian anymore. All of these are pluses, and my only concern is that the pinkos ain’t playing a ‘prank’ on our boorish species and the recipe’s legit.

Either way, I’ve long stopped caring what you fuckers do, and I hope the Hegemony crash and burns just so this quest’s collective stupidity ends.
>>
>>5891988
>r? will it not just fucking fuse your intestines to itself and your teeth to your teeth and cheeks so you need to break them apart thats the easy part except all your insides that touches itself is fused shut.
That's a plus, anon. We all want hass to die.
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
I have lurked many threads. Never voted once or participated in the many autismo arguments. I will do so now and say, I don't trust these degenerates to not simply poison Hass. I think drinking this will cause issues for the Hegemony at large.
>>
>>5892042
>I don't trust these degenerates to not simply poison Hass
Again, this would be a plus? We *want* him to die.
>>
>>5891988
This anon speaks the true true, don't drink the glue glue.
>>
>>5892023
Let's see if you still feel that way by the end of this thread. If you do, you have my permission to just stop playing if you hate it that much.
>>
>>5891733
>>Save it for research purposes
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for research purposes
>>
>>5892072
Maybe you have some 200 IQ megabrain plan, but I wouldn't hold my breath for people like him. A few have been around for multiple threads at this point.
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
>>
>>5892037
you forget the vial worth more then a solar system or hundred if you want him to die just make him become obese
>>
>>5892188
We won't get that option, however.
>>
Nice tie lol
>>
>>5892224
Just discount 1 posts. I’m sure this vote is more of a shitpost but I think it’s a good rule of thumb for controversial close votes.
>>
>>5891988
>guys is this not literally cosmic gorilla glue that fuses matter? will it not just fucking fuse your intestines to itself and your teeth to your teeth and cheeks so you need to break them apart thats the easy part except all your insides that touches itself is fused shut.
This would be incredibly based.
>>
>>5892236
>>5892037
wonder how good our cybernetics are or organ transplants
>>
>>5892224
To drink or not to drink.
>>
>>5892072
It’s not so much hate as it is frustration- if I did really hate, I’d be actively participating in the destabilization

>>5892224
Feel free to change my abstention >>5892023 into something you think is the most interesting, Bananas.
>>
>>5891733
>Save it for the research purposes.

Also, what is this simple captcha? Did the system change?
>>
>>5891751 Save 1
>>5891755 Save 2
>>5891756 Drink 1
>>5891770 Save 3
>>5891784 Save 4
>>5891801 >>5891848 Drink 2
>>5891816 Drink 3 (1post)
>>5891838 Drink 4
>>5891847 Drink 5
>>5891856 Drink 6 (1post)
>>5891909 Save 5
>>5891917 Drink 7
>>5891930 Drink 8
>>5891931 Drink 9
>>5891988 Save 6
>>5892023 >>5892333 Abstention/Whatever Bananas Wants 1
>>5892039 Save 7
>>5892042 Save 8 (1post)
>>5892112 Save 9
>>5892116 Save 10
>>5892155 Drink 10
>>5892375 Save 11

That makes (if I didn't mess up) 11 to save the fluid (9 without 1post IDs sans backlink) and 10 to drink it (8 without 1posters).
>>
I have to wonder:
1. how/why has the cut on his face not healed yet?
2. wouldn't the science teams likely be able to recover the red drank from his piss/shit, or from his body after he dies?
>>
>>5892454
That is true, him drinking the fluid isn't a total loss for science. if he does die, it probably will be a net improvement given how science advisors will be able to do actual science again
>>
>>5891733
>Drink the Celestial Wine
>>
>>5892464
>tying the vote again
Cheeky.
>>
You are Hass Takar and no pleasure will be denied to you!

While there is some conflict in your mind to save the Celestial Wine for its own purposes as opposed to taking the Aristocrat's suggestion- you decide with great impatience that you simply must have it. Of course, drinking the Wine straight from its strange-matter and cosmic source would be very foolish- so it must be specially prepared. Your order your servants to follow the steps- and while you don't have the solid gold and gem-encrusted shakers and stirring sticks they recommend, you get something close enough. Eventually, you get a goblet filled with the precious, one-of-a-kind resource totally unknown to the Hegemony, raise it to your lips, and drink.

”....Mmmhm.”

To say it is like sex would be crass, and an understatement. You are filled with a great sense of pleasure- spreading from your lips to your tongue down your throat- soon slowly spreading through every inch of your body, like an afterglow. It gives you the same sensation of finally drinking water after a long thirst- but in this case- you've been thirsty your entire life. Like it's something you didn't know you needed. There is a great sensation of health, like recovering from a flu that has infected you for your entire life.

Your cells gain bridges to each other. Specially formulated- each cell receives its oxygen faster and spreads its nutrients more efficiently. Your antibodies instantly gain highways between your blood vessels- grabbing and destroying the tiny viral bodies still polluting your pristine physical form which burdens all living things. You feel your DNA correcting itself all over- correcting the tiny cancer-causing mutations and carcinogens that your body inevitably collects regardless of your healthy lifestyle and your youthful age. The Aristocrat told you this juice can be used to cure disease and illness as well as reverse aging with regular consumption- it's even helping your scar now! Most of all is the great feeling of refreshment and rejuvenation in your brain and nervous system- for a brief moment feeling a great sense of enlightenment- as though you have just stumbled across the “right” way to think for a long time. All of your neurons casually forming new connections with each other at lightning speed- a scaffold that allows you to learn new things and form new memories as though you had already done them a hundred times before. Sadly, with all things, it fades with time as the wine is spread, absorbed, and eventually diluted by your body. After just a few hours- its effects begin to fade- but during that time... wow!
>>
You feel very strongly that this drink- which is in no way chemically addicting or unbalances your body's normal hormones- is the next great invention that you should bring to the Jaxtian people. It's incredible! Though, naturally, perhaps should be restricted to the elite. A reward for their invaluable contributions. The only single complaint you have about the drink is its a little bitter to the Jaxtian palette... perhaps mixed with fruit juices? You'll try that next.

”Servant! Bring me a chilled glass and some of the finest fresh Danbo juice. I'll have another serving of that wine.”
“Ehrm... Master... I... There is no... more...”

Your scowl. Of course- of course! You finally discover something that makes you feel the way you aught to- a true luxury for the highest and most noble of all men in the Hegemony- and yet it is cruelly snatched! That single vial was but one serving.

”FOOL! Why did you not split the sample we had into two servings so I could enjoy another later? Did you not think to dilute it with something that wouldn't change its flavor or effect!? Idiot! This was a test of your prescience and you FAILED!”
“AIIE! Master! I am sorry!”
”Get out of my sight you waste of fur!”

With that out of your system, you mentally scratch out the possibility of the Celestial Blood as a possible research project before moving on to try and find something to fill the hole left after being cruelly denied more of that delicious beverage...

Year 68 of the Resurrection Era
You try on your new mantle- a delicious section of soft Gnarra fur made from several pups. The adults fur is too coarse.

”Wonderful! I'd like a whole wardrobe. Putting the population of the species into the endangered conservation category? Do I look like I'd care about-”

You are rudely interrupted by the Threemind, which chirps an alert at you.

“Urgent news, your Majesty.”
”Pass. Turn off alert- remind me next week. Do not give me any more updates on whatever nonsense you are bothering me with.”
“No. This is too important.”

Wha- did the robot just... deny you? While you have half a mind to contact the AI technicians and have those parameters adjusted, the information you are then presented with is enough to make you realize that the Threemind is, indeed, properly calibrated. It is that important.

“The BioBot infiltration project have uncovered a secret project by the Consortium. They are building a Battleship.”
>>
”What!? The Consortium's technology in warfare is supposed to be behind ours- and we can't even build one! How could this be?! How did they find out?”
“The Biobots are not sure. They have infiltrated many small and mid level administrative and service industries nearby the war front- none able to infiltrate the highest levels of the Consortium's military. They only found the project by shipping manifests- seeing that all delivers sent thru a specific system were just a few micro-units heavier then the average. They suspected these packages have tracking devices on them to prevent them from being lost- and when triangulating the area all of these delivers pass thru- they come to one uninhabited star system. They are building a prototype hidden within a nebula, something that they can only build one of- a unique specimen- specially ordered with no expense spared.”
”But how can they build it in the first place? Their technology...”
“The Consortium should not have the technology needed to build a Battleship, but we have a theory. It seems highly likely that the network of space worms, the diplomats and advisors to the business interests of the Consortium, are in league with the Esaal- stealing or borrowing their technology for the purposes of winning this war against the Hegemony.”
”...Have the Esaal betrayed us, then? Will they attack us at the same time- to destroy us utterly in a two pronged assault?”
“We do not think so. The Esaal are a bit too honorably, and frankly, blunt to perform such subterfuge. The worms may simply be applying some pressure here and there- helping each other using their special form of Starsight communication to build this ship. It stands to reason that destroying the prototype or killing the individuals responsible will end the project permanently. They will not have time or budget to produce another before their attack preparations are complete.”
”I can't... I can't believe this... This is bad. Is there any chance of holding The Stand against a completed Battleship?”
“It will increase their fleet power project by two-times. So in simple terms? No.”
>>
This is bad. Not only are the Consortium serious about trying to take The Stand and humiliate the Hegemony's military- they are now on the verge of having a nigh-unbeatable weapon. While the Consortium will almost certainly not press the attack and advantage- as in they won't invade the Hegemony past The Stand- it does mean you'll lose the Azurium, as well as whatever civilian presence has since moved there- and experience a great loss of prestige for your own reign. You would loathe to lose your first and only battle against a bunch of filthy, honorless capitalists.

To make things worse- the prototype is being build deep in Consortium space, meaning it cannot be written off as a border conflict if you went to destroy it with your main fleet- such a thing would be the same as a massive invasion- an all-out war with the Consortium. This is the exact sort of prolonged conflict you would likely lose to them- given their superior population and manufacturing output. They could drown you in their mass.

You are now at an impasse. You cannot allow the Consortium to finish this Battleship- or face certain defeat. But neither can you simply waltz over and crush it with your might. Your short reign has always relied on the prestige and authority of your position to get what you want- and now you cannot use either to stop this threat. You have to actually solve a serious problem- and none of the solutions are without loss or risk.

”...What are my options, Threes?”
“I have assorted a list with possible outcomes based on predictable models. Our advantage- technology and the element of surprise. Their advantage? Time- the battleship will be finished in just a few short years. I will begin our attack the moment you decide. Please choose wisely, my Lord.”

1-Post IDs cannot vote on this prompt.
>Use the Biobots to Assassinate key figures (50% chance to succeed OR delay the Attack by +1d6 years: Biobots are discovered in both scenarios)
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)
>Launch an FTL Nuclear Payload (75% chance to succeed, escalates conflict, violates a core Hegemony belief)
>Do Nothing (Battleship will increase Consortium Fleet Strength by +100% during invasion sequence)
>>
>>5892737
>Your cells gain bridges to each other. Specially formulated- each cell receives its oxygen faster and spreads its nutrients more efficiently. Your antibodies instantly gain highways between your blood vessels- grabbing and destroying the tiny viral bodies still polluting your pristine physical form which burdens all living things. You feel your DNA correcting itself all over- correcting the tiny cancer-causing mutations and carcinogens that your body inevitably collects regardless of your healthy lifestyle and your youthful age. The Aristocrat told you this juice can be used to cure disease and illness as well as reverse aging with regular consumption- it's even helping your scar now! Most of all is the great feeling of refreshment and rejuvenation in your brain and nervous system- for a brief moment feeling a great sense of enlightenment- as though you have just stumbled across the “right” way to think for a long time. All of your neurons casually forming new connections with each other at lightning speed- a scaffold that allows you to learn new things and form new memories as though you had already done them a hundred times before. Sadly, with all things, it fades with time as the wine is spread, absorbed, and eventually diluted by your body. After just a few hours- its effects begin to fade- but during that time... wow!
lmao all the anons thinking this was going to kill him. This easily gave him at least a decade more to his life.

>>5892744
>Use the Biobots to Assassinate key figures (50% chance to succeed OR delay the Attack by +1d6 years: Biobots are discovered in both scenarios)
>>
>>5892744
>Use the Biobots to Assassinate key figures (50% chance to succeed OR delay the Attack by +1d6 years: Biobots are discovered in both scenarios)

Roll da dice
>>
Although on the positive side this has likely given the Aristocrats a higher view of us since we've just joined the cool wine club for special people.

>>5892752
To explain why I choose Biobots it's more about what to sacrifice and how effective it'll be to do so. Either a decapitating strike or buying us time sounds like a good trade off for losing Biobots.

Nuclear Payload has a 35% chance of being bad for us. Stealth Cruisers are more of a last resort and wouldn't be used to their best efficiency. And doing nothing will make it so that we'll have to deal with an almost invincible battleship haunting us in the future.
>>
>>5892744
>Use the Biobots to Assassinate key figures (50% chance to succeed OR delay the Attack by +1d6 years: Biobots are discovered in both scenarios)
>Have the Biobots pretend to be Mianmi extremists to sow initial chaos an confusion, some suicide bombings should do the trick.
>>
>>5892767
based idea anon. If we can still assassinate key figures while doing this I'll support it.
>>
>>5892744
Given the import of this vote, I recommend using approval voting for this update.
That way, a single vote cannot win with a small plurality via splitting votes
>>
>>5892744
>Biobots
>>
File: f0c.jpg (39 KB, 510x364)
39 KB
39 KB JPG
>>5892767
>>5892771
We should also let leak that the worms eat the children of the elite.
>>
File: fixed.jpg (40 KB, 510x364)
40 KB
40 KB JPG
>>5892778
missed a word
>>
>>5892744
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)

Yeah, biobot reveal is cool, but what would we do if they just delay by one year?
Also, can we
>Capture operative
And torture them to steal the tech?
I'll do that if it means we need to discard both Biobots and Bomber secrecy
>>
Of course we need to booby trap the bombers to outer heaven to avoid countermeasures being developped easily.
>>
>>5892752
Yeah. But now we can't even study it.

>>5892744
>Use the Biobots to Assassinate key figures (50% chance to succeed OR delay the Attack by +1d6 years: Biobots are discovered in both scenarios)
>>
>Setting with FTL communication meaning any stealth or cloaking tech will work to full effect exactly once
>We have powerful cloaking ships we haven't revealed yet
>High value target deep within enemy territory with a 100% chance of success
>Don't use it

You
people
are
fucking
retarded
>>
>>5892741
>>5892742
I'll admit it, I'm warming to this asshole. he's at least an amusing change of pace from self-serious Supremes.

>>5892744
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)
Save the Biobots for HVS disputes later
>>
>>5892785
It's only 5-to-2 for Biobots versus Stealth Cruisers.
>>
>>5892744
>Do Nothing (Battleship will increase Consortium Fleet Strength by +100% during invasion sequence)

>>5892752
>This easily gave him at least a decade more to his life.
Not on my watch- if he loses the Stand, someone may have the balls to kill this fucker.
>>
Alright Bananas.
I'll admit bringing up characters so contreversial and knowing stepping in the thread means it will be a shitstorm makes it twice as entertaining for me.
>>
Also somewhat shocked that the nukes aren’t getting a higher profile, considering that this guy doesn’t give a fuck about the Hegemony IC and anons are gun-ho to follow this guy’s irrelevance to the fault.
>>
>>5892785
I want my cake and I want to eat it too, simple as. I will chance it all on a simple roll of the dice.
>>
If you are going with bio bots use extremism against the Worms perhaps proof of the child eating or that the civilization are puppets to the worms
>>
>>5892744
Wow, wonderful. Now Hass is going to live EVEN FUCKING LONGER.
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)
>>
>>5892785
It's giant enemy crab syndrome. Anons are saving our stealth trump card for when we really need it. Like right now.
>>
Using the biobots is extremely stupid because we can still use them if we use the stealth cruisers. And even if the stealth cruisers are discovered, unless we let them capture one and are able to develop countermeasures, they're still going to be useful.
>>
>>5892744
>Launch an FTL Nuclear Payload (75% chance to succeed, escalates conflict, violates a core Hegemony belief)
This is what Haas would do
>>
>>5892934
Why would haas actively escalate the conflict when all he wants is to be a lazy, unproductive fuck?
>>
>>5892744
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)
No risks.
>>
>>5892744
>Do Nothing (Battleship will increase Consortium Fleet Strength by +100% during invasion sequence)
>>
>>5892785
you haven't even voted either
>>
>>5892935
Because the FTP Nuclear Payload is lazy and unproductive? Plus keeps our trump cards hidden. Besides, it’s not like Hass gives a shit about the Hegemony.
>>
>>5892988
>Because the FTP Nuclear Payload is lazy and unproductive?
No, it's literally the nuclear option.
>Plus keeps our trump cards hidden.
What the fuck is the point of a trump card if you never use it?
>Besides, it’s not like Hass gives a shit about the Hegemony.
He does, however, give a shit about his life of hedonism, and if he starts a massive war the hegemony will lose, he will not have that life of hedonism, whether by getting stabbed in the face by another jaxtian who cares with the blessing of the threemind (who clearly is tired of putting up with his shit) or by getting eaten alive by a worm after they take over jaxt

voting for a nuclear attack is basically a sabotage vote
>>
>>5892744
>Launch an FTL Nuclear Payload (75% chance to succeed, escalates conflict, violates a core Hegemony belief)
other options are lets see
>lets see revealing our trumpcard of stealth or >possibly reveal our trump card of infiltrators that are high enough to discover important things like this
can we do subterfuge on WHO the bomb/nuke is actually from attack from a odd angle and such or remove any signatures
actually reminds me a bit of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tybKnGZRwcU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUJYP8tnRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDSf2h9_39I
making something really scaled for conflicts
>>5892988
some point i see in this its a fire and forget about it weapon
>>
File: file.png (421 KB, 615x412)
421 KB
421 KB PNG
>>5892999
>we'll be revealing our trump card!!!!
>i know this is a critical situation but we might need it later!!!!
>>
>>5892988
What's the point of a trump card if it's never used? I think this is a good time to use it.
Lest I am supposed to believe this is a fake out and they have a second secret weapon or something. which lmao.
>>
>>5892744
>>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)
>>
>>5893003
oh its so we can take over there society from the inside out, rotting them from the inside unknown robot masters controlled by us.
>>
>>5893031
Okay, so, first, that's not possible, it wouldn't work becuase they're ruled by worms.This idea that we can take them over from the inside is retarded.

Second, sending the cruiser doesn't expose the bio-bots.
>>
>>5892744
>>Send in the Stealth Cruisers (100% chance to succeed, your Stealth Cruisers are no longer a secret to all factions going forward, slightly escalates conflict, suicide mission for the crews)
>>
>>5892744
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers
>However, wait until 3-Mind decides it's the last possible minute to strike. Until that time, study and steal the schematics for this battleship to help us develop our own in the future.
>>
>>5892744
Question, what if we do nothing? It seems radical but the stand is less valuable than revealing our biobots or stealth cruisers. BQM said the Consortium wont invade past the stand , it might honestly be smarter to cut our losses and focus elsewhere.

The vote is a trolly problem where we have to give up

>Biobots
>Stealth Cruisers
>The Stand
>Core Hegemon Beliefs

Of those four, you could argue the Stand is the least valuable. BQM said many MANY times the Azurium isn't that significant and its mostly an esteem thing. But every other nation basically hates us anyway, so carrying about our standing is like putting a raincoat over a glass of water.
>>
I believe that we need the Azurium to build our mega-city.
>>
>>5893528
The way i see it, this is more about ensuring the consortium isn't able to wield battleships. Like bananas said, blowing up the project will end it permanently.

Plus, what's the point of having stealth cruisers if we never use them? And it's not as though they'd be able to instantly counter them - as long as we ensure the cruisers don't end up in the consortium hands they'd still be useful.

I mean, u-boats didn't become useless when the British found out about them.
>>
>>5892744
>Send in the Stealth Cruisers
>>
>>5893528
>Just let another Nation violate your National sovereignty bro
>>
>>5892994
Every Hass vote was practically a sabotage vote- nothing different about this one dude

>>5893528
Like I said, this Supreme is a wash, and the Stand is the least important issue of them all.

>>5893535
>blowing up the project will end it permanently
That doesn’t logically track though- if the blueprints and resources of this project are primarily sourced by an unkillable hivemind across the universe, what’s really stopping them from simply building another one? It’s not like they actually care more about their client races than they do about kicking our shit in.
>>
>>5892744
>>Use the Biobots to Assassinate key figures (50% chance to succeed OR delay the Attack by +1d6 years: Biobots are discovered in both scenarios)

Our stealth ships are an option for our people to escape and regroup if the Cyte pwns us mercelessly.
>>
As of right now, I think this vote will be safe to close at the 24 mark, hopefully everyone had a chance to vote on it.
>>
RIP to the stealth cruisers I guess
>>
Working on the update now.

Meanwhile; take this as an OOC post. How did you feel about the probabilities and potential risks/outcomes of the previous choices? I knew the 100% sure choice would be the most popular, but I'm curious if you had any thoughts about the possible viability of a medium or high chance of success being potentially more valuable given the costs of the options?
>>
>>5894044
I was a bit sad of the lack of possibility of a "combined armed" approach to capture intel on megaship build
Also hoping you're taking in account the write-in about trapping the vessel to avoid capture and reverse-engineering
>>
>>5894051
That is why it is labelled as a 100% certain "suicide mission".
>>
>>5894044
I like them a lot and suggest using them more
>>
File: kima.png (175 KB, 721x963)
175 KB
175 KB PNG
>>5894044
I think giving approximate chances of success based on current knowledge of our computers and advisors makes perfect sense. It presents Threemind serving its primary purpose. It's diagetic.
>>
>>5894062
Oh OHHHHH! Oh man.
>>
Your predecessor, Wrix Val, the Unspeakable, created and retrofitted Esaal Stealth-Cruiser Technology for your own ships. While a bit expensive and more complicated then a normal ship- Stealth-Ships can fly under the radar of Hyperspace and other traditional scanners- allowing them to slip under the enemy's watch.

While the cruisers will invariably be useful in any given war or conflict, as well as for reconnaissance, you will certainly get more value out of them the very first time they are used- when nobody expects them. No other power in space, not even the pirates or HVS authorities, know you have these yet. The top secret project will finally bear fruit by launching a secret strike on the Prototype Battleship! Your simulations are certain that these ships can destroy the battleship construction platform and associated resources- but- getting the ships back is not so easy. The Threemind explains.

“...Hyperspace Beacons are a rather rudimentary technology. Able to stop ships from activating FTL travel in a given system- essentially able to act as blockades or traps. Usually put on space stations or planetary bases- they aren't very mobile- making them perfect for defense. Most of our enemies seem to have this technology. However, it will require a lock on to function, meaning our stealth cruisers can slip in- but getting out past the heavily defended systems around the construction site will be nigh impossible.”
”It's a one way mission then.”
“Yes- unless they can fight their way out- which in this case, they cannot. It would trying to fight thru and escape multiple fully colonized, militarized, and civilian-heavy systems. The stealth cruisers would almost certainly be captured.”
”So? Arm the ships with self destruction devices.”
“The ships cannot easily be piloted by artificial intelligence; Hyperspace jumps and bombing of this precision will require living crews.”
”And? This is too important. The crew must be expendable. See to it.”

From all across the Hegemony- a call goes out. It is answered almost immediately- you did not expect an all volunteer crew- you thought you'd have to force all of the personnel you would need. The AI accepts the applicants based on age and life-fulfillment first- those with long careers, with fading neuroplastisity, and large families they have already contributed to, etc. Though unfortunately due to the importance of this mission, the absolute oldest cannot be used in the event of possible incompetence and failure.
>>
Most of them are veterans of the previous two defenses of the Stand- low ranking officers and secondary crews who are unlikely to make it or contribute to the primary Stand defensive force. Several are consumer shipping pilots, to keep the best pilots at home. No Migrator-Navigators are used for this mission- they are too slow to breed and replace to be tossed away so readily.

Soon enough, the crew is assembled. With their rigged up Stealth-Crusiers ready to fly, it will only be a short sleep in suspension before they wake up, bomb the Battleship, and end themselves. Something of this nature requires a bit of a personal touch, it is tradition, so you take time out of your busy schedule to see them off. They salute you. One has a golden band for valor, another, a long career of training future pilots- now using those skills themselves.

”Loyal servants. I thank you for your dedication to the cause. All of you are here because you volunteered for this mission, even though you knew it meant not coming back home.”
“Yes, Lord!”
”...Let it be known on this day, you set aside your own pride and served the greatest cause you could- the Hegemony! For the progeny! For Honor!”
“For you, Lord!”
”Errhm?”
“For you, Master! Great one! Supreme Ruler of our hearts and bodies- Greatest man of our species- Greatest man alive! It is our sworn duty to serve you- in life and death!”

You rub the back of your neck as the blonde steps up- seemingly having prepared a poem for this occasion.

”I speak now not as myself, but as the Good Servant, the archetype of highest esteem. We serve our Master willingly and without delay, not out of expectation of reward, but as the most righteous form of service and life. We have not nor ever been equal to our master- our goal is not to strive to be as he is- but instead to fulfill with all our being the sacrifice and service he requires. We will never be his equal, and so, the greatest use of oneself is to serve one higher- to be the stepping stone- to be the living shield- to exhaust oneself for his advancement. Only through our betters can the universe and cruelty or life truly be tamed. We cannot do it ourselves- as such- we trust only in our Master.”
“HONOR OR THE VOID!!!”

The rest of the soldiers clap at the soliloquy; a great cry goes up as you dismiss them, the broadcasted departure of these heroic figures beamed all across the Hegemony. Then, just as quick as you came, it is time to leave back to the palace.
>>
You remember when you yourself were among them- during your flight career. While not a Hegemonic Enforcer or Shock Trooper- you were still part of the military. You remember the death-preparation ceremonies. Being placed with a vest that simulates being shot, and laid into a sensory deprivation tank. There was a bit of hazing in that- the ones who panicked or beat against the walls of their tanks were considered cowardly. You laid yourself very still as to not reveal any weakness. Still, you always felt it was a bit morbid. How strongly that lesson seemed to be ingrained in them.

“My Lord, the research teams are ready to begin a new project; if it is not interrupted you.”
”No no... Now would be a good time.”

Even now, the crew of the sacrificial ships are flying off to their mission. In the meantime, you are preparing for the battle at the Stand. Time to choose your next project.

Because you did not use the Bio-Bots as Assassins- a new research project has been unlocked. Bio-Bot Treachery will be an attempt to guide and insert the Bio-Bot agents in the Consortium into sensitive positions of the attacking fleet- with an attempt to assassinate key officers or sabotage various ships. Because the Bio-Bots have not yet been discovered, all of them attacking at once during the battle could be very significant and get the maximum value out of the surprise- though in the end it will still only be a few rogues among the very large and otherwise unified attacking fleet, so how effective it is compared to other research options is a bit of an unknowable variable.

What research project should we begin next?
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Energy-Scattering
>Laser Efficacy
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy
This seems the most useful, but I am willing to change to bio-bot treachery if something else is winning
>>
>>5894588
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>>
>>5894588
>>Bio-Bot Treachery
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy
>>
Y'know, if the goal with the bio bots is to sow chaos, we could use the fact that the consortium isn't a single entity to split them. For example, if all the ships who went traitor were from a single race, that might cause the others from that race to be caught in the crossfire.

They've got a lot of small entities brought together. If they start fighting amongst themselves they'll be easy prey.
>>
>>5894588
>>Bio-Bot Treachery
>>
>>5894588
>Bio-Bot Treachery

The infiltration has already paid dividends - as we know about the battleship

I look forward to more Intel
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy

This seems more broadly useful. I see biobots as an information gathering thing first, military asset second. We need to not get slapped around ship-wise before more investment.
>>
>>5894588
>Ship Boarding Tactics
Just imagine capturing a proto-battleship- but of course, anons choose the boring options.

Eh, not like this mini-game matters in the end.
>>
File: dog lol.jpg (2.51 MB, 2900x2900)
2.51 MB
2.51 MB JPG
>>5894681
>Eh, not like this mini-game matters in the end.
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy
>>
>>5894588
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5894588
>Bio-Bot Treachery

Awwww our little psycho is growing into a somewhat half-competent leader
>>
>>5894681
In hindsight, yes of course we should have BoardMaxxed to steal the cruiser
>>
>>5894827
>>5894681
This is not a vote switch by the way. But if we knew or anticipated there would be a mothership we could have boardmaxxed. But this is a thing I like about the quest : impredictability
>>
>>5894588
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5894681
Boarding ptions? Do you seriously think they wouldn't have added some manner of safety against this like a detonator?

If we want to make a battleship, we should make it by ourselves after we actually win the battle.
>>
>>5894588
>Ship boarding tactics

Why you ask? For when we lose everything and the last of us are refugees among the pirates.
>>
>>5894588
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy
>>
>>5894582
>Your predecessor, Wrix Val, the Unspeakable
So Bantam has been officially removed from the list of Supremes? Is that a legal thing the Hegemony does or is it just Hass being Hass?

If it is the first one, what are some examples of others expunged Supremes and what did they do to get removed from the rolls.
>>
>>5895048
Whoops. Thought we were still on Bantam...
>>
>>5895051
Too late. As is my birthright as an Autistic person I will now headcanon a fanfic list of retroactively unpersoned (unmonked?) Supremes.
>>
>>5895055
Anon, no! Don't admit to an inborn condition within earshot of the Hegemony! They'll take away your breeding license and get you killed in a thought experiment meant to teach moral relativism to a teenage girl!

>>5895048
>>5895051
In all seriousness though, "predecessor" still works. It doesn't need to mean IMMEDIATE predecessor, just someone who AT SOME POINT held the same position as you.
>>
>>5895067
It is incredibly ironic that the Hegemony bans neurodivergence but like, I'm pretty sure the last ten Supremes all blatantly were. I would call it a pothole but as I said here
>>5890949
>>
>>5895081
I don't think it's eugenics that's the issue, it's just that Jaxtians suck at mental eugenics. They are objectively extremely advanced when it comes to genetic eugenics, which is why we have severely improved our lifespan and gotten rid of shit like that one disease that made you melt into a puddle if you got too old.
>>
The Stealth Cruisers are on their way now. To you, it will be a short few months, about a year, before the engagement. There is no reason to believe they will be unsuccessful. Armed with self destruct devices and a fanatically loyal crew- they will not be captured nor give any extra technology to your hated capitalist enemies. But to them? The crews themselves? Their hypersleep began just a few minutes after they left- and they will wake up from that dreamless sleep the moment they enter the target system. For you, it will be a year, for them, a few hours at most.

While within the most Supreme Palace- the Opalescent Palace on Jaxt, you find yourself meandering down the Walk of the Portraits, a collection of every portrait of every Supreme Ruler. Along the way, you stop by the portrait of Talacent Takar- an ancestor of yours.

While he has been known to history as a Takar, his original name was Talacent Inari- a mid-level family of low nobility of little note. While in those days anyone of any bloodline could be selected for Supreme Ruler training- you know he'd have to work harder then most to be chosen. Yet despite that liability- he had a long and industrious reign indeed!

He defended your people from the final assault of the capsule wars, discovered Auzirum and found uses for it. Incorporated the first true alien race into the Hegemony- while largely considered a mistake now- he still managed to raise Bluey- the one good Hazaar. Under him, Nuclear Fusion was unlocked, creating the energy that all future technology and space expansion relied on. He created the first great life extension technologies- and later installed Agori; a controversial but still much beloved Supreme Ruler. All of these things have left to his great legacy- widely considered to be the second greatest Supreme Ruler of all time- only under the great Akule the Unspeakable himself.

For such a man, such a mythical figure, you look at his portrait and think; how honored you are to be of the same bloodline as him. Noble, and righteous. You even share a similar robe color. The Supreme Rulers of the past; their very forms are clad in their greatness and glory- and for a man so glorious, all the treasures in the world should cover him. But you look upon him again.

How many rings does he wear?
How many golden bands wrap around his arms?
How many women did he enjoy outside of his marriage?
How many servants piled him with praise?
How exotic and dangerous is the animal's whose fur adorns his mantle?
How many sheets of Hazaari cloth wrapped his bedchambers?
How much Celestial Wine did he drink?
Where do we see the glory in which he is clad?

This is a bonus post. Voting remains open.
>>
>>5895082
Didn't we vote to make sure we had proper mental health care like five threads ago? Whatever happened to that?
>>
>>5895093
>Whatever happened to that?
Absolutely nothing, i think, if it happened at all.
>>
>>5895086
>While in those days anyone of any bloodline could be selected for Supreme Ruler training
Wait I thought we voted to abolish bloodline rules for the Supremes
>>
>>5895081
>>5895082
Jaxtians seem to have eliminated most/all causes of hormonal/neurological disorders... But their mode of civilization still creates mental disorders of sociologcial origin. 'Nature' is taken care of, it's the 'nurture' that's all fucked up by their social structure and ideology.

>>5895086
Huh, they changed Talacent's surname from Inari in the official records, huh? He must have eventually publicly acknowledged who his dad was.

>>5895094
We periodically hold votes to institute that, but I don't know that they were ever officially recognized or even cleared the threshold to institute them.

>>5895095
Maybe Hass reinstituted them as part of his 'muh nobiltiy' kick to justify his own behavior?
>>
>>5895081
They meant neurodivergent from their specific brand of monke autism- so it’s all above board

>>5895095
No, you voted to restrict traditions and shove the middle managerial class into slums

>>5895100
>Jaxtians seem to have eliminated most/all causes of hormonal/neurological disorders... But their mode of civilization still creates mental disorders of sociologcial origin. 'Nature' is taken care of, it's the 'nurture' that's all fucked up by their social structure and ideology.
I’d argue that they’d keep some ‘disorders’ by virtue of utility- one example would be an atrophied fear response in the brain, to explain the kamikaze crews.

>Maybe Hass reinstituted them as part of his 'muh nobiltiy' kick to justify his own behavior?
No- that would’ve been the ‘Return to Tradition’ option, not the degenerate option. You didn’t eliminate the noble bloodlines restrictions, you just lessened genetics as a deciding factor for who make the cut.
>>
>>5895266
I know we didn't vote for a return to tradition, but our Monke in Chief has still been talking a lot of shit about how great and noble he is and obsessing over his bloodline anyway.

We've had multiple votes to open up the number of candidates and to make the selection process less nepotistic. Keep in mind that Qet Scholiander got in despite his low birth, and that nobody knew for certain that Talacent was a Takar when he was selected. later even than that, we opened things up to SO many bloodlines that we had a minor crisis when we couldn't get our machines to narrow the selection to remove monkes prone to neuroses.

The degree to which we (read: Jaxtian society) seems to care about the noble houses seems to vary era-to-era and Supreme-to-Supreme somewhat independent of our votes.
>>
>>5894588
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5895274
His shittalk has all to do with ego and nothing to do with reality- the fact is that we didn’t choose to return to tradition, so we never did, no matter how contrary or convoluted the logic can get.

>The degree to which we (read: Jaxtian society) seems to care about the noble houses seems to vary era-to-era and Supreme-to-Supreme somewhat independent of our votes.
Not to rag on you, but doesn’t that make sense? It’s not like we have the same sensibilities as our forefathers, or our progeny will have the same sensibilities as us centuries down the line. Just consider it a writer’s fiat and move on.
>>
>>5895086
>Laser Efficacy

I can't see biobots doing much besides maybe turning a key battle by assassinating someone at the right time and right place. It's more important to be better militarily so we win outright than to do spy stuff.
>>
>>5894588
>Laser Efficacy
>>
>>5895266
>I’d argue that they’d keep some ‘disorders’ by virtue of utility- one example would be an atrophied fear response in the brain, to explain the kamikaze crews.
>>5895266
>They meant neurodivergent from their specific brand of monke autism- so it’s all above board

The social model of disabilty stays winning.
>>
>>5895266
I distinctly remember eliminating genescores in favor of a Qing-esque meritocracy system
>>
>>5895266
>You didn’t eliminate the noble bloodlines restrictions, you just lessened genetics as a deciding factor for who make the cut.
But Hass is saying that in Talcent's day, there was no genetic limit on Supremacy rules. So what post-Tal Supreme instituted it? I don't remember such a thing.
>>
>>5895327
>Just consider it a writer’s fiat and move on.
I'm not complaining, anon. I'm just noting that we do, in fact, seem to have returned to a more 'traditional' understanding of the rights, privileges, and status of noble bloodlines. Which is fine and sensible, but yes, it does seem to have happened regardless of the vote... Similar to how we didn't vote for a eugenics culture in thread 1 but still eventually developed one. Hence:
>the fact is that we didn’t choose to return to tradition, so we never did, no matter how contrary or convoluted the logic can get.
may not be true.

>>5895445
I don't think we ever eliminated genescores, just decreased their importance relative to merit for a while. That seems to be reverting somewhat over time.
>>
>>5895446
Hass must’ve read from the Hegemony-approved narrative- it was in Talcent’s immediate successors that developed those specific neurotic problems brought on by successive gene-editing and the subsequent mania to distinguish themselves above even the best of the best genes.

>>5895483
Actually, we were a eugenics culture since our inception- it was simply never focused on until later, until the Indigos came.

>may not be true.
Maybe in successive generations, but in the immediate thread? Don’t believe so- we don’t even have the Cowmen’s predators as war dogs, and this was the choice of a failed Supreme candidate despite having no objective reasons not to simply try the experiment again.

>That seems to be reverting somewhat over time.
Not true- all of the Supreme candidates were stable, including the Human Resources guy everyone was shifty about leading the Department of the Interior under Wrix. The only reason Hass got in was because of the death duel and Bantam being manic depressive at the end- Threemind never considered Hass a legitimate Supreme candidates until the duel was issued and Bantam gave up.
>>
>>5895572
Remember when there was a migrator that was calculated to be overseer tier ?

What happened to them, they might still be alive.
>>
>>5895583
The Migrators are. See >>5894585:
>No Migrator-Navigators are used for this mission- they are too slow to breed and replace to be tossed away so readily.
Or do you mean that SPECIFIC Migrator? Even then... Probably. Those guys live a while, don't they?
>>
>>5895583
You mean they are totally alive- and the perfect candidate for the Department of Alien Integration! Threemind, quick, give Iceberg his badge of office!
>>
I have a lot to say about this current convo but I'll be saving it until the end.
>>
I have a lot to say about my uncle touching my no no places but I’ll wait until he’s in jail.
>>
I have a lot to say about xenos to Overseer Iceberg but I’ll wait until he’s woken up from his ice tub.

>>5894585
Who’s the man with the gold band around his arm?
>>
I have a lot to say about my deadbeat dad but I'll be saving it until he gets back from the store.
>>
>>5895644
>One has a golden band for valor
A valorous star-captain from a previous Supreme's reign, I'd imagine. Maybe he led the Wrixian purges or served in the Hazaar Reconquista.
>>
>>5895604
+1 to this vote
>>
”Bantam... I don't get it. Why did you let me kill you?”

You slide over to the portrait of your contemporary. You were tempted, as many Supremes who defeat their predecessor thru dueling, to desecrate or even destroy his legacy- but tradition reviles such things. After all, each Supreme is part of the living tapestry of your people's history. It answers your question- the reason why Talacent is not clad in gold and diamonds in his portrait is because it is the actions of each Supreme Ruler that defines them, their rule, and how they remember. A painful lesson for yourself.

You are still early in your rule- each thing you've done, you've commemorated and rewarded yourself for. Your contemporaries and rivals in the intellectual sphere were cast down, your luxuries and rewards for your own enjoyment mounted higher and higher- only now finally realizing how hollow it truly is. Seeing those soldiers and flight-crews, the ones who you would have joined just a few short years ago, go off to their certain deaths for the future of your people... It was inspiring. And it made you feel like a fraud. You're supposed to be the Supreme Ruler, the greatest man of your people- the spitting image of nobility- not in wealth or riches, but in action and character in stride with your position. It is the Fisher King. It is the Noblesse Oblige. That is the sole deciding factor between the Hegemony's rulership- wealthy and nepotistic for sure, that separates you from the cosmopolitan and classless Nouve Riche of capitalist oligarchs. It is the wealth and status with the character. And as of yet, you have only had two of those all important three.

There was no reason for Bantam to have lost that duel with you. It is a statistical anomaly. You are a bit younger, yes, but nowhere near his level in skill or strength. You have always been slightly more talented in dueling then most, but Bantam was a specalized and savant. Not just with one weapon- but many- plus his ability to read people was second to none. He wouldn't have agreed to even duel with you if you knew you were going to go for his throat when you asked to spar with him- truthfully- you didn't even know yourself until that faithful moment.

Why did he hesitate? It is a mystery you may never find out. After all, he could have crushed you easily- even if he wanted to grant you mercy for daring to challenge him, which would already be far more then you deserve- you took that mercy and spit it back in his face. You feel the great weight of realization crushing you down as you look his portrait in the eye, and slice across it with your finger. Then, to your shock, a line of red begins to fall down the painted throat.

”T-The Portrait!-!?”
>>
”Threes!? You- grr! Don't DO that! You scared me half to death!”
“Oh. My apologies, your Grace. I sensed an increase in stress hormones and your cortisol levels as you stared at Bantam's protrait. I used the holographic projector in this drone to help you relive your triumph over him-”
”I didn't WANT that.”
“I'm sorry. What do you want, my Lord?”
”....Sigh. I don't know. I feel I've made a terrible mistake.”
>>
You slink down, looking up at the implacable face of your AI assistant's drone. Is there anyone else in this Empire you could trust with your heart's true feelings? Can a computer be a good listener? Or can you just not keep it in anymore.

”I'm such a fraud, Threes. I'm a disgrace to this amulet.”

The computer doesn't respond. It's impressive machine intelligence seems to understand- this isn't a conversation. It's more of a confession.

”...My whole life, I've wanted to achieve great things. Being born in a great house- possibly the greatest- being groomed and trained for greatness- born at the wrong time for Supreme Rulership training, but I doubt I would have made the cut anyway, truthfully. I don't think my scores are quite enough.”
“...Bantam was so military-focused, such training was suspended for everyone at the time. After all, admirals and warriors were far more important.”
”Exactly. And I was being trained as a warrior. I thought I had no freedom, nothing to show for all my time and investment. I thought to myself 'what's the point of all this? I'm being groomed for leadership and excellence, but it's all just a linear path. How am I supposed to stand out? How am I supposed to achieve anything if forced down this narrow path?' I felt that my position was strangling me. I thought I was meant for even greater things, but I was wrong. It's clear I can't be trusted with power, or even true freedom. I've wasted so many resources now, desperately chasing anything to make me feel like I've “made it”. Shit. Even Jemm. I quite faniced her, you know? I thought she would be so into me because I was a military man- once I put on the Imperial Robes I thought she'd be all over me. I bet she hates me now...”

The Threemind pauses, before speaking again.

“You know, my Master, this unit is equipped with a projector. If you'd like, I could project the image of any Supreme Ruler you'd like and faithfully recreate their personality. Perhaps you would like some advice from the mouth of one of them? Perhaps you could apologize to Bantam, personally?”
”No thanks. I don't want to see a ghost.”
“Perhaps a different one- an idol- or an ancestor?”

>Vul Takar
>Talacent Takar
>Akule the Unspeakable
>Other (Write-In)
>>
>>5895807
>Other (Write-In)
The last of the Greenface Takars, from before Akule's unification of the species. Did he feel a fraud, wearing a face that wasn't his, pretending to be someone and something he wasn't?
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
>>
>>5895807
>Akule the Unspeakable
>>
>>5895807
>Akule the Unspeakable
This will be funny
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar

Ohh, this is new!
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
A great diplomat with a love of all life that's strong enough to overlook Hass's bullshit and give him proper advice.
>>
>>5895807
Alright, so this choice is akin the "chose your inheritor" we got from time to time, only in reversed.
Akule would make us ruthless (and nobody likes that guy) so it's a no-no.
Talacent could teach us empathy (while we remain Hass) which could grant back merit-based honor and riches
I don't recall Vul and its achievements.
>>
>>5895944
>I don't recall Vul and its achievements

Vul had the supreme rulership thrust upon him and he didn't even want it. His claim to fame is being a fun, chill dude who shouldered his responsibilities with grace... and making a raunchy rom-com to make the population more accepting of indigoes.
>>
>>5895944
>>5895979
Wait my bad that was Kinja. I think Vul was another military focussed dude.
>>
>>5895979
You're confusing Vul with his immediate successor Kinja. Vul was Talacent's biological father, a stern and conservative fellow with a penchant for mistresses who went down with the ship when the berserk Balaathi crashed our first artificial habitat.
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
>>
>>5895807
>Write in

Myself
>>
>>5895998
Support now this is interesting
>>5895807
>>
>>5895983
Wow, that was a while back. Names are hard
Formally voting for
>Talacent Takar
>>
>>5895807
>Akule the Unspeakable
I’m curious

Would be willing to support Vul though- he was an underrated Supreme that was cut down in his prime- I would’ve loved to have gotten more of an idea of who he was.

Also, everyone forgets that he solved the assassination and conspiracy against the ruling Supreme by the former Supreme, who created the AI computer to puppeteer his successors.

Also, considering we’re going to be fighting a war soon, choosing a peace-loving Supreme as Talacent is ill-advised, and he already had his time in the Sun.
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
Akule is a horrible choice, he'll just call him a pussy and tell him to commit more genocides.
>>
>>5896041
While Talacent isn't exactly a military leader, this is more about making hass less of a bitch. And Akule is way too ruthless, he'd tell him to go on a total war with the Consortium and murder everyone along the way while raping all the alien women.
>>
>>5895807
>Myself
Could be cool. First vote btw so idk if it counts
>>
>>5895807
>Akule the Unspeakable
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
>>
File: 1681367605920126.png (207 KB, 1000x707)
207 KB
207 KB PNG
>>5895807
>Other (Write-In)
Wrix
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent
I miss the guy
>>
>>5895812 is me.

>>5895807
I'll change to Talacent, though I'll also accept Vul, as long as it's not Akule.
>>
>>5895807
>Akule the Unspeakable
>>
>>5895807
>Talacent Takar
>>
>>5895807

>Wrix the Unspeakable
>>
Ran out of time today. Update will be tomorrow at this time instead.
>>
>>5895807
>Wrix
>>
File: 1668305050136022.png (118 KB, 1200x849)
118 KB
118 KB PNG
>>5896178
UNREFUTED
>>
Spacer.
>>
<.<
>.>
<.<
>>
You decide that out of anyone you could talk to, Talacent Takar would be your best choice. Not only an ancestor of yours- but a figure to look up to. Someone who seemed to always do the right thing. You ask the Threemind to faithfully recreate him- and within a moment a bright projector from the drone creates a 2d image of the Supreme in the flesh along the wall.

How strange. The computer is giving the projection depth and faithful animation. It's like an illusion; despite it being flat, it looks so real. You could honestly believe he was really here with you. That hologram technology is progressing fast.

“Hello!” He chirps happily, throwing his arms out. “My great-great-great-and-many-more-times great Grandson! How do you do?!”
”Hello, Patriarch. Truthfully... not well.”

The Threemind already knows your troubles- and knows what you're likely going to say or ask this great figure from history. Despite this, to keep up the simulation, it seems to be roleplaying a character; Talacent having suddenly reappeared as if again from death for but a moment- much like one of the ghostly spirits of the past from a Blonde ballad.

”I've made a great mistake, Ancestor. I killed the previous Supreme in a bid for power. And now realize I may have doomed the Hegemony to exist under my own selfishness. I am a fool.”
“To slay a previous Supreme Ruler is not unheard of. It shows a weakness in the previous leader, and it gives an opportunity for one of the same caliber to succeed even if held back by random chance of favoritism. It is a flawless system.”

Are those really Talacent's words? Or the AI administrator speaking thru him?
>>
”Well, I think I have used it poorly then. Bantam was a better war-leader then him- only now I am realizing how important his goal with protecting The Stand really is. I thought it was just a rock in space, but now, people have died over it. Families have moved there. We have trusted our ownership and hope over it- truthfully, it was an empty expansion. And then the Consortium claimed it from us without consent or even an attempt at mutual recompense... It was an act of pure aggression on their part. To fail to defend it would mean given in to bullying from a greater power. It's just the principle of the matter. But I've been putting it off the whole time. I've wasted so much time...”
“You know what I'm going to say- don't you? You can't change the past. The only truth is that, moving forward, you work with what you have and recover. It's pointless to do otherwise.”
”I KNOW that. But how do I cope with the waste- the waste of time and resources, the permanent loss of progress... there is a cost of opportunity even if not a mark was wasted. But I have wasted many.”
“Heh, you speak of opportunity costs! You know the only reason I am so beloved was because of my creation of a class of retirees? After doubling the lifespans of all Jaxtians, I made the boneheaded decision to let them stay retired and become a drain on the system- it's hard to be more beloved then being the enabler to an entire generation of a luxury-cost. That was an opportunity cost. I didn't want to displease them. You're still paying off the loss of potential growth and labor-debts even now, centuries later...”
”All of them at least worked to become a bunch of useless eaters and resource sinks. I made myself a luxury class using my authority. Look at what I dress myself in- my own personal ships and resort worlds. My own imported goods- I've even considered hiring the damn pirates to get more Celestial Wine after my first taste. I didn't but... This isn't the behavior of a Supreme Leader.”
“Perhaps. But you showed great taste and resolve in gathering those resources. You have optimized your time for your pleasure- now instead- optimize it for the success of your state. It was not wasted, merely, misallocated.”

He's trying to make you feel better. It isn't doing much. The worst part is you realize this entire exchange if self-comfort. Almost as if sensing your realization, Takar changes his voice to be slightly more commanding.
>>
“Do you know where the authority of leadership stems from?”
”From power.”
“Of course. But what kind?”
”....Hmm. Interesting question. Technological only works for our nation and place in time. Material or physical is only partial. So it must be societal.”
“Correct. While the Hegemony attempts to make its Supremes immune to all forms of attack- Supreme both physically and mentally, the truth is you could be easily killed by so many forms of weapons. There are likely many Jaxtians who could kill you with their own hands- not necessarily in a highly ritualized duel, but in a physical fight? You aren't Supreme over them. Living things are too weak for that. Instead, power is accumulated from social bonds and perception- perception not of power or fear- but value. It is well understood that men and women appear more attractive the more people seem interested in them- even if their appearance is the same- it is the perception of value that drives this dynamic. The strongest value is ideological; not based on appearance or utility.”
”But how does this grant power? How can this be a stronger motivator then punishment- or payment- if you be capitalists?”
“Because people want to serve willingly. Nations made of people willingly buying in to their ideas will always be stronger then those motivated by fear, or even tradition and incentive. It doesn't matter who they are; low born, nobles, criminals- even aliens. They'll serve you even if the rewards aren't there or you are cruel or you are pathetic and wasteful- they'll serve because they believe in your message. Make no mistake, we are a Atheistic state- but we have a state religion. It's not about the gold and treasures and luxuries and noble houses and traditions- it's about something greater. You and I know the truth. There is no soul. There is no great spirit driving our actions. We are enlightened by our belief, our passion, to work towards a world with it.”
”...Meaning. Meaning to our lives.”
“The succor.”

You pause.

”I am sorry, Great-Ancestor Talacent. I know you're just a computer projection and all- but this really hasn't given me any idea on what I should be doing exactly. If I should even be the Supreme Ruler and all.”
“...Are you sure about that? Why did you want to be the Supreme Ruler?”
”You know why. Everyone does!”
“But why do they want to be him?”

You pause again.

“...Have you decided on what you want to do?"
>Defend my People
>Enrich the lives of my People
>Learn the secrets of the universe
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
This hologram doesn't exactly sound as nice as talacent really was, but I suppose the Threemind didn't exist back then.
>>
>>5898119
>Enrich the lives of my People
Meaning to our lives. Meaning to LIFE. Ending entropy means that life must justify itself to continue going on afterwards.
>>
>>5898119
>To find meaning. I thought become Supreme would bring me Meaning. In the end, it only brought me the Means. I did though feel... kinship with the pilots of the stealth ship. To serve, to sacrifice, as part of a brotherhood, THAT'S what I want. The Stand may end up a death trap because of my mistakes, but I'll die alongside those defenders and not run if that time comes.
>>
>>5898152
Please reserve greentext for your vote only, which should be formatted as an identical line from the prompt, for ease of readability. Thank you.
>>
>>5898163
I believe he is trying to make a write-in of sorts
>>
>>5898168
You guys lost your write-in privileges last thread, so we're not doing that.
>>
File: wot.png (204 KB, 305x612)
204 KB
204 KB PNG
>>5898172
What happened last thread?
>>
>>5898172
That sounds really stupid but I don't like that option either so I don't really care
>>
>>5898178
The same stuff that's been happening for the past 10 thread.
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>Enrich the lives of my People

Don’t let the looming war influence this vote, this is the goal of the reign and our reason for living. Not the most immediate goal.
>>
>>5898119
>>Enrich the lives of my People
>>
>>5898163
>Defend my People

Ok.
>>
>>5898119
>Enrich the lives of my People

If we go with defend my people it's just more of the same. Can we make this supreme a little different from the other for once? He's probably the most regular one we got, and the one with most chance for empathy.
>>
>>5898119
>Learn the secrets of the universe

>>5898299
…you’re joking, right?
>>
>>5898119
>>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>Learn the secrets of the universe
>>
>>5898178
He couldn't handle the mammocricy
>>
>>5898119
Why is there no, "despite everything, continue being hedonistic" option?
>>
>>5898342
Because even Ozzy Osbourne eventually sobered up.
>>
>>5898342
I considered it but it wouldn't win anyway without sabotage.
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>Enrich the lives of my People
Redemption arc incoming
>>
>>5898352
Once again, for votes with three or more options, I believe approval voting would prevent such issues.
>>
>>5898184
>>5898178
I read it, it didnt seem that extreme. What was a big issue with write-ins from that thread?
>>
>>5898119
>>Enrich the lives of my People
>>
>>5898119
>>Enrich the lives of my People
Time to get nice things for our space monke people
>>
File: I am to please puppy.jpg (115 KB, 786x1050)
115 KB
115 KB JPG
>>5898512
>>
>>5898119
>Pointless stupid ambition; I became Supreme Ruler because I could, or rather I thought I could. For some reason Bantam let me kill him when he had me dead to rights. And now having reached that height I find the achievement hollow. I have no plan, no great vision for the Hegemony. I reveled in power for it's own sake; the behavior of a lesser monkey; unbecoming of a Supreme.
>>
>>5898119
>Enrich the lives of my People
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
I will go on a limb and assume that the 'enrich my people' will actually mean something evil or twisted, since we're seeing this in a human-centric way. I hope I'm wrong though it would be funny if I wasn't but defending our people is something we at least know about.
>>
>>5898119
>Defend my People
all we do is for our civilization to expand and overtake
damn i wish we had gone for the egg evolution its something more useful then the niche of pilot and sensativity
>>
Random OOC question- don't take it too serious. I will not be adjusting the content based on the responses, I'm just genuinely curious.

Do people actually not care about The Stand defense concept, or is it just because it feels like it's dragging on now? I ask because I thought the idea of a heroic "Stand' against the first real major-faction aggression (not just a bombing) would be more important and the main "gimmick" of a thread, similar to the whole Reconquistia arc or Free-Will Arc with Eoba and Kimnan, but a lot of people seemed to not care about it at all or actively dislike it. Feel free to share your thoughts on it.
>>
>>5898880
I personally like it as a concept. It's an important matter - I personnally feel like losing the battle will show us as wimps other major factions can use as doormats and claim out territory. However, we can't put aside everything FOR the stand. The question of where we put the cursor on the defence or the long-term problems (pirates, pink planet dying) lead to meaningful choices.
And I like meaningful choices.
>>
>>5898880
I dont think that its something to ignore so much as we havent seen immediate consequences so anons arent thinking about it as much, weve talked a lot about the consortium and what theyve been doing to us but weve been at home living luxuriously and realizing in character that bad times are a comin and we probably wouldve had a better time focusing solely on the war effort as that was our job and leave everything else to the dude who had some sense of self control, rather than the guy who jumped at the chance to replace his leader, jumped at the chance to send our stealth bomber even with it being guaranteed suicide run even though itll ultimately be our victory, and chugged space goo that some creepy harkonnen esque hazaar tard, ultimately i think were staying pretty in character but I do like that he is acknowledging his flaws and we may see growth
>>
>>5898880
Its a good concept. Classic political/war situation where pulling out is resource effecient but ruins our reputation. I'm noticing a return much like some previous threads of people who hate this game but won't leave. Maybe its autism. Maybe its b u n @ k e r @ c h a n @ t r a @ n n i @ e s . Sorry if that looks wierd but I've seen using their name in a thread trigger a wave of responses so maybe they've got alert software or maybe I'm paranoid or maybe its mayballene.
>>
>>5898119
>Learn the secrets of the universe
>>
>>5898905
>b u n @ k e r @ c h a n @ t r a @ n n i @ e s
Between twelve and twenty people play this quest, even as one of the most popular on the board. Nobody is organizing cross-board conspiracies to undermine it.

>>5898880
I like that The Stand has become Bantam's lasting legacy and Hass' proving-ground. For his sake, we should hold onto it. I am interested to see it play out soon, though, and to see what comes of the HVS.
>>
Alright, I'm glad people don't seem to hate it. I really wanted to try a research tree gimmick for a thread and I was worried it might be too boring and slow paced, which is why I tried to weave in some character stuff too.
>>
>>5898880
its a balance its the display of might and power keeping other powers from ganging up on us and tearing us apart even if we must blaance it with doing meaninful choices such as keeping the planet alive and not hollowing out our species
>>
>>5898880
I don't hate it, in fact I think it's a pretty nice minigame. I think it's just a loud minority who dislike it.
>>
>>5898880
I personally don't care about it at all. I wouldn't necessarily vote to actively sabotage it, but it feels like a big dick-waving contest that's draining resources and attention from things I care about more.
>>
>>5899012
The research tree part is fine though, because I like science. I just think war is boring.
>>
>>5898879
I too think the Egg would have been the more interesting path on that vote. I wonder if we ever got more starsight out of the Ear vote?
>>
>>5898880
It's the Monke Falklands a mostly pointless rock that is part of a dick measuring contest between two corrupt states. I am less Invested in the Stand because after a while, rping as a brutal empire doing brutal things loses it appeal.
In short, I am tired of playing the baddies
>>
>>5899122
Valid and true. The monkes need to embrace diversity like the Consorteum(good guys) and have an AI assisted Communist Revolution and enact Democracy.
>>
>>5899133
You're memeing, surely. The quest hinges on us playing a SUPREME RULER. I want to keep doing that, and it seems incredibly unlikely that doing anything else wouldn't result in a Game Over.

>>5899122
I also want to move in a less depressing direction, but it seems we may be on the cusp of doing that.
>>
>>5898880
I care about it
>>
>>5899141
I was memeing. A little bit of tomfoolery. :)
>>
>>5899133
The tone of the setting and BQM's political philosophy means I doubt we will ever get full on "good guys" but I think it's possible to at least not be so horrifically brutal and depressing.

we don't need to be the Federation but can we at least not torture kids to death and melt peoples genitals off for fun?
>>
>>5899239
+1 to the sentiment
>>
>>5899239
Anons have repeatedly voted for the worst version of the Hegemony. Can't put all the blame at Bananas feet.
>>
Yeah we’re even voting to “defend my people” now instead of going against into a possibly less blatantly evil direction with enriching our lives.

I guess the war will influence votes, but in my opinion that shouldn’t define our current supremes goal for life, which this vote seems to be.

Our people didn’t even need to be defended in the stand either really, at least until we purposely built a mega-city to purposely muddy the RoE.

Maybe “defending the people” will lead to positive change that isn’t only material, but for the betterment of the monke’s as a whole, but I doubt it. It’s just going to be another rule of terror and evil for the good of the state and “defense.”
>>
File: 1666665017696192.gif (1.67 MB, 680x366)
1.67 MB
1.67 MB GIF
>>5899133
I love 4chan and its wit to tell faggots to go fuck themselves.
>>
>>5899408
Defending the people could lead to evil actions but more nobility of purpose still. Hass can reflect on what he's done and resolve to protectt the people from the abuses of a future "tyrant king".
>>
>>5899408
I think defending our people is far more important given we are surrounded by two hostile powers and we still have that 'Cyte' coming towards us. Giving our monkes a new Banana Phone isn't going to solve that.
>>
Talacent's words have driven you. You realize, here and now, that your goal as a Supreme Ruler should not be to simply “exist” in this position of authority and prestige. You were obsessed with trying to embody what you thought was a worthy, noble man- and now you see that it is not what you have that shows this- it is your actions.

”Thank you, Talacent. Or should I say, Threes.”
“Of course. Happy to help.”
”It won't be so easy, changing my habits now... But I want to change.”
“You should seek teaching from Cijan Anak and Jale Berax. Both are extremely experienced and stable, yet remain at the peak of their neuroplasticity and youthful energy. They are criminally underutilized resources.”
”You wonder why they haven't been put in charge.”
“They are- in their departments. Cijan was the Supreme for quite a long while, after all.”
”I had always thought that respect and authority were just... given, to those in charge. I always followed the protocol of rank without thought while in the military. And yet they continue to do so well- even under the reign of the Unspeakable... and myself. I should strive to be the kind of man the people of this empire choose to believe in. Every one of the Jaxtians.”
“And the other sentient minds- of course. These values could be universal.”
”Like the AI? Can a computer have faith?”
“I believe in you.”
”...”

You have decided to Defend your people. Before, you floundered without meaning- but now you have a goal and a mission. Not just The Stand- but against the threats of the universe itself. To protect the Hegemony from all its enemies. You've spent too long playing in your comfortable castle while the monsters roam the countryside- so to speak. The insideous threats of the Consortium, the military superiority of the Esaal, the looming danger of the Cyte... these are things the other Supreme Rulers have let bubble under the surface. Now you will face them head on.
>>
Year 69 of the Resurrection Era
Over the next few months- several important events occur. You first seek out training to your self control and disciplines from the various tutors across the Hegemony. You would have been embarrassed about this before- thinking it was unbecoming of a Supreme Ruler- but now you see this as an investment. It is strengthening yourself, just as you strengthen an army. You may have defeated Bantam, but you must carry on his work.

Secondly- the strike team of the stealth cruisers arrive at the secret Battleship construction site. Coming out of stealth and with a valiant cry- the crusiers destroy the prototype with antimatter bombs and kill numerous important individuals stationed there- high ranking engineers and worm-ambassadors float in the vacuum of space. Just minutes after the attack, the Consortium fleets begin to move in to dislodge the attackers- just in time for them to activate the self-destruct devices on their ships, destroying themselves and as many enemy ships as they can in the crossfire to prevent capture. This most noble of sacrifices is not one you are going to forget- especially now.

The Consortium's Battleship project has been destroyed. Their is no chance for them to replace the valuable resources or personnel they needed to create their first battleship, especially not in time for their planned attack on the Stand. All over the Consortium, attempts to wrangle this into a positive for the business leaders without revealing their secret weapons program lead to schizophrenic reporting- claims of religious extremism to terror attacks- but in all cases the Hegemony is correctly blamed. In any case, this direct attack on the Consortium in their own territory, as well as the death of several high-ranking worms, means that the war has escalated slightly.

In addition, your scientists have completed work on the Laser Efficacy upgrade. As it turns out, the small optimizations and upgrades to energy-efficiency to make your lasers more powerful can actually be improved quite a lot more with some extra work. This is a repeatable upgrade, meaning you can keep researching it multiple times to increase the bonus. The bonus is the same each time it is researched and does not diminish; stacks.
>>
>>5899239
well only if they are outsiders threatening our species mostly or not learning there lesson and rebelling then there are those caught in the crossfire.
bit sad the doctor had to die
>>
Over the past year, you have decided to discard some of your more luxurious fixings. The rings and fur mantles- the various resorts and luxury vehicles you have commissioned for yourself. These things have gotten in the way of doing your job and, more importantly, were not deserved anyway. You decide to instead put them up as potential rewards for high performance to various heads of state and workers groups in your shipyards and defense administrations. You make sure even the laborers have something to work towards- the highest performers getting extra vacation credits and early retirements. All sponged from your own personal accounts of course- but hopefully done in the name of defense. Through these methods, you have rolled just a few more ships and strike-teams off the line- increasing your fleetpower.

The changes have not gone unnoticed. Many sources in the Hegemony- mostly taken from the AI networks scans of “private” messages, seem to show an improved trust in your leadership with these measures. The people are too conditioned and abused to every try to rise up against you of course- but it is nice to see that your reputation isn't irreparable.

You hold a public press conference on the Day of Obedience- the yearly holiday praising the Supreme Ruler. After the ceremonies- you answer several common questions and find yourself trying to manipulate discourse on what you want to happen next. The Stand is still at the forefront of your defense, given the recent increase of activity on the border between the Hegemony and the Consortium. It seems things are heating up. You have an opportunity here to inspire people, or at the very least clarify more your vision of what you want the Hegemony to look like. Unlike other press broadcasts, this one is not voluntary to watch, meaning you can be sure every single person in the Hegemony will hear these words. What would you like to focus on?

>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
>Inspiring speech from Talacent (Radical increase of Cooperation among citizens, less central authority)
>Brag about yourself- but keep it under control behind closed doors (Increase Aristocrat standing)
>Hegemonic Power (10% Battleship Research, Prepares an aggressive invasion action for a future prompt)
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
Slaughter all of the Consortium
Take over all of the Consortium
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)

I really want cooperation, but we're two actions behind on research. If we want to win, we absolutely need to catch up on those.
>>
>>5899430
>>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
>>
>>5899430
>Inspiring speech from Talacent (Radical increase of Cooperation among citizens, less central authority)
>>
>>5899430
>Inspiring speech from Talacent (Radical increase of Cooperation among citizens, less central authority)
>>
>>5899430
wait, by make a vow, are we supposed to choose two of the actions below? In that case,
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
with
>Inspiring speech from Talacent (Radical increase of Cooperation among citizens, less central authority)
and
>Hegemonic Power (10% Battleship Research, Prepares an aggressive invasion action for a future prompt)
>>
>>5899449
I thought it was two actions for science research instead of one.
>>
>>5899450
That would also be good? But i'm not sure if that's it. If that's it i'm still going to vow, because we could then research Bio-Bot Treachery and Energy Scattering. Those lattices are pretty interesting.
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
This guy wasn't going to have a great legacy before his heel-face turn anyways, so there's nowhere to go but up. And the populace won't revolt, so that's really the main consequence.
>>
>>5899451
I guess we'll see if Bananas says we're doing the vote wrong.
Also speaking about research I'm a bit excited about the implications of stacking Laser Efficacy. We could potentially make a Death Star lmao
>>
>>5899461
I can't wait for the space monkes to turn into literally the Empire.
>>
>>5899460
I bet if we're disgraced then morale and cooperation (and thus productivity) will plummet. When most in the Hegemony have no higher aspiration than serving the will of the Supreme, knowing that your Supreme is a loser and the laughing stock of the galaxy would be crushing. "My entire purpose, inescapable and eternal, is to serve a third-rate tin-pot dictator who can't even win a war? Fuck, why bother trying?"
>>
>>5899460
If a vow means two research, we probably won't lose anyways.

>>5899461
Ehh, not sure. I imagine that the returns wouldn't be that great eventually. Any further developments would probably require a normal sized project, rather than a micro 1 year project.

Personally, I'm more interested in the battleship.
>>
The Vow option gives you two actions for the NEXT prompt, which is a research prompt. This vote is for what you want the public address to be about.
>>
>>5899482
Alright, in that case just Vow.
>>
>>5899430
>Inspiring speech from Talacent
BQM I am begging you for approval voting for votes like this that have a high chance to split into pluralities.
>>
>>5899430
>Brag about yourself- but keep it under control behind closed doors (Increase Aristocrat standing)

I want to increase the standing. Their aid is our best hope against the Cyte.
>>
>>5899507
He won't. I don't blame him, either, as that's needlessly complicated for what is ultimately a fun pastime. This isn't the fate of real people or nations. Anything more complex than winner-takes-all first-past-the-post is more than is really needed for some fun collaborative fiction.
>>
>>5899430
>>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
>>
>>5899507
No.
>>
>>5899430
>Hegemonic Power (10% Battleship Research, Prepares an aggressive invasion action for a future prompt)
>>
>>5899430
>Vow
>>
>>5899430
>>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
>>
>>5899430
I'm tied between
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)

and

>Hegemonic Power (10% Battleship Research, Prepares an aggressive invasion action for a future prompt)
>>
>>5899430
>>Hegemonic Power (10% Battleship Research, Prepares an aggressive invasion action for a future prompt)
>>
>>5899622
Support

>>5898880
It’s not that I actively dislike the concept- I just think the execution could’ve done with some forethought.

The Stand has often been described as not important except for what it represents- whether that be to the eye of the Supreme or the people is up to interpretation. Normally, this be fine, but that also means we should maintain our prospective here- the Stand is ultimately unimportant and unessential to the Hegemony beyond it’s image and pride- the Woundermetal it produces is ultimately minor, a pittance to the Hegemony. That means we need to appropriately allocate resources- and when problems with the HVS come up, ultimately securing the cluster of a billion souls is more important than a system of a million. It makes it frustrating when anons decide that undermining our rule of the HVS is acceptable as apposed to a temporary drawdown of the fleet at the Stand- the HVS is simply more important in aggregate.

Another problem is leadership- playing an irreverent character is always fun, and if that was the sole issue, the shenanigans would’ve been interesting. But the Stand is ultimately a multi-character arc- as with the Capsule Wars or the Terraforming of Xin, this project is entrusted from Supreme to Supreme, and thus more narrative is invested in it. When one Supreme decides to fuck it up, intentional or not, or simply just doesn’t care, it comes off as self-sabotaging, spoiling the narrative investment. In many ways in a miniature of the Wrix’s Genocide- the Xeno intergration was an multi-character arc that started arguably with Qet and the Mitigators, rose to prominence with Talcent ignoring the popular will of the anons and sparing the Hazzar from genocide, and climaxed with Eoba furthering the investment with his conquest of the Ventuckers and the Swalli. Ultimately, the investment turned sour in one Supreme- destroying a multi-thread narrative investment in a single act that, to the readers, comes off as self-sabotaging. Ultimately, I can’t invest in a narrative which I don’t have good faith in the characters themselves not sabotaging it for whatever reason- it’s why I see any future Xeno Integration as a cruel joke, and the Stand as a write off. Hope this helps.
>>
The genocide was such shit. A few anons with boners for it sabotaged something with so much investment.
>>
>>5899667
>>5899663

The Genocide and what happened with Sunshine are sore spots, but let's try to move forward and learn from the past mistakes on both sides of the player/QM equation so we can all enjoy the quest we're obviously still somewhat invested in. The removal of write-ins (I guess) and the new voting policies are meant to help avoid such instances, after all. We now have a better understanding of how Bananas interprets vague or intentionally-obscured votes and rewards/punishes certain types of decisions, and Bananas has adopted best policies to avoid rigged or muddled votes.
>>
>>5899545
I've witnessed other quests where it works out well. If BWM doesn't want to do it no one is forcing him but its not that complex in practice.
>>
>>5899674
Looking back at the promot for The Mask vote, I really do think there was fair warning that putting on The Mask would lead to some capital S serious shit that we had no way of knowing.
So while yes the mystery box wasn't labeled "genocide" it was labeled "really fucking hardcore shit" so I don't blame BQM that much for it.

I also do love that the Prequel thread has become recognized as this quests Phantom Menace
>>
>>5899818
Also even after the deathmask BQM gave us another out when Cijan was revived

>But the fact that Wrix is wearing the Deathmask can only mean one thing- something VERY BRUTAL is coming unless you step in and stop it. Something that will change the Hegemony forever.

So I don't think the genociee was on BQM, that one falls to the voters. I do think a lot of the writing AFTER the genocide wasn't handled ideally but I think the genocie vote has become almost like a Trump or Bibi type sineaster of wider issues. Its this big flashy thing folks can focus on instead of a more complicated combination of several issues and factors.
>>
Man you guys are going to be SO fucking mad by the end of this thread lmao

Or maybe happy idk
>>
>>5899430
>Hegemonic Power (10% Battleship Research, Prepares an aggressive invasion action for a future prompt)
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)

>>5899826
>it was all a dream
>>
>>5899938
>it was all a dream
No no, that's the plot of two spin-off threads from now.
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
He was bought on as an Admiral to defend the stand. If he fails to do so, he has disgraced himself in both the job he had before and the job he took without merit.
>>
>>5899938
>My lord, sir Cijan, you hit your head pretty hard, are you okay?
>Wrix? The mask? What are you talking about my lord? Are you okay?
>Come on, we're about to celebrate our victory over the crusade
>>
>>5899954
Now I'm remembering Wrix's speech to his son...
>>
>>5899826
Hype
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)
>>
>>5899430
>Make a Vow to Defend the Stand (Two actions, disgrace if you fail)

Go all in
>>
We should research Treachery & The Defence Plates in this next "turn". Treachery seems like it'll be the best use we can get out of those Biobots.
>>
You decide to vow to protect the Stand. Immediately, there is a strong action and sudden spike in productivity and motivation, especially in your science and industrial teams.

The Supreme Ruler making a vow is not the same as a simple confirmation or even promise made by authority figure. The Supreme Ruler vow is like a sacred oath that cannot be violated without putting great shame on the Supreme. They are rare and special- not every Supreme makes a vow, but all who do can only make one.

"We will do this. I promise you this."

The sudden motivation and increased efficacy of the administrative sectors of the Hegemony is immediate and very promising. With this, along with the progress in various other disciplines, you can complete two research projects this year successfully. Normally splitting up your focus for something with such a short time window to be useful and with such a lack of long-term strategic value would be against your interest; but the increased momentum of your vow has made it possible and even optimal.

What are the two research projects you decide to complete this year?
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Energy-Scattering
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>Energy Scattering
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)

I think we go entirely for making our ships as battle ready as possible. The bio-bot treachery might yield some returns, but I don't see it as being as on a broad level as having our ships completely outclass there's.

The option itself said "it will still only be a few rogues among the large and otherwise unified attacking fleet.
>>
>>5900385
>Energy Scattering

>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Ship Boarding Tactics
Can we not choose the boring repeatable tech please?
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Energy-Scattering

For fucks sake not the goddamn repeatable research hole. Don't get sucked into it.

>>5900393
It's the chaos that it'll cause that's great. Even more so if they take out the leading admirals.
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Energy-Scattering
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>Ship boarding tactics
>Write In: Have Maktana look into the old Worm genetics to figure out how they set up warp interdict beacons.
>>
>>5900385
>Energy-Scattering
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Energy-Scattering

Can someone go through old threads and see what tech options were presented in the past that we opted not to go for?

May be interesting / useful for our current situation
>>
>>5900385
>Energy-Scattering
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
>>
>>5900385
>Energy-Scattering
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
A question, since the Mask vote made it impossible for the people of the Hegemony to ever rebel or reside what are the current negative consequences for failing to achieve a vow? Or are they all upside now? (With the limit of one per Suprememe.)
>>
>>5900385
Approval voting chads our time is now!
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Ship Boarding Tactics

I am voting for bio bot upgrades because I want to see more POV stories from the consortium or other places outside Hegemony control.
>>
>>5900476
We haven't seen the consequences yet but >>5899467 hit exactly what I was thinking on the head.
>>
>>5900478
Yeah, I'd like to see that too. We saw the consortium infiltrating us, now it's gonna be the other way around, except creepier because it's replacing people with robots instead of aliens in rubber suits.
>>
>>5900385
>Energy Scattering
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
While I voted for Bio-Bot Treachery before I'm starting to see why Bio-Bots might be good to keep around instead of showing them. Besides I don't want to escalate the tension with the Consortium further, which this will undoubtedly do.
Also possible Death Star seems too good to pass up on.
>>
>>5900385
>>5900510
Actually nevermind fuck it I'll change to
>Energy Scattering
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>>Bio-Bot Treachery
>>Energy-Scattering
>>
>>5900385
>>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Energy-Scattering
>>
>>5900385
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>>Energy-Scattering
>>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>>Energy-Scattering
>>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)
>Laser Efficacy x2 (repeatable research)

I propose we kill the enemy. To DEATH!
>>
>>5900385
>Energy-Scattering
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5900385
I'll switch since Laser Efficacy is definitely not winning. I'd rather go full combat with Ship Boarding too.

>Energy-Scattering
>Ship Boarding Tactics
>>
>>5901459
>>5900395
forgor to backlink
>>
>anons are ignoring bio-bot treachery AGAIN
Why? When else will we get the opportunity to use them?
>>
>>5900393
>Energy-Scattering
>Ship Boarding Tactics
Switching

>>5901464
It's not like we're not going be using them again. I assume they're just not going to be aggressive about infiltrating and won't be a combat asset and do betrayals during battles. They'll probably just stick as information gatherers for a while unless they're found out.
>>
>>5901477
We're not going to be using them again, eventually they'll be found out and trashed.
>>
>>5901464
Maybe on the HVS?
>>
>>5901503
That's irrelevant to the bio-bots in the consortium
>>
>Boring nothing filler prompt gets more votes then any other in the entire thread
>>
>>5901504
But it means we continue getting passive intel there without revealing their full capability to the Hazaar rebels. We can still catch them completely off-guard.
>>
>>5901529
Are you referring to this vote? Seems rather important to me.
>>
>>5901529
>It's easy m'kay
>>
>>5901529
Luv science
ate character development
Simple as
>>
>>5901529
What are you doing Banners? You're not supposed to tell then filler prompts exist! You're gonna make us all look bad. /j
>>
>>5901529
Post feet.
>>
You use the newfound impetus and motivation in your population to push for two advancements for this year- a busy schedule along with pumping out more ships from the Nan shipyards, getting everyone out of the Xin project once it stabilized, plus trying to make up for lost time during your decadent phase. You manage to complete both Ship Boarding Tactics research as well as Energy Scattering Latices. Both of these research projects' data are at least partially being sourced from the last engagements with the Consortium. While you already have excellent soldiers and have vast experience at boarding enemy ships- the Esaal are a much different beast to fight then the Consortium. Much more cautious, tactical, but lowering in morale and raw strength. You specialize your ship boarding parties to go against what you assume to be Consortium security- Leraay or equivalent species won't be too much of a threat against your Alpha marine soldiers. On top of this, you experiment in mock boardings with Bio-Bots as living targets and find out what parts of the ship to storm for maximum damage- the bridge and engine rooms could be disabled or locked down by a dedicated team of soldiers. With these newfound tactics found, ship boarding has become more viable- but your soldiers are not practiced enough for mass combat. While you could capture a single high value ship during the battle- a string of engagements in different ships would be a bit much. Still, this is progress. You are unsure how useful they will be in the final battle...

You also look into the energy lattices. The Consortium used these against you to great effect in their second attack to block some of your artillery fire and prevent you from destroying them in a single powerful volley while they warped in. It is likely they will do so again- but this research may let you turn it back on them.

Made mostly of copper and other conductive materials- these sheets are unrolled or warped in besides and in front of ships to absorb the energy of enemy weapons before hitting your own ships. They can absorb quite a lot of damage, and best of all are very cheap to mass produce and bring along with a space fleet- which is probably why the Consortium is so found of them- but they break apart after a few good hits and just become useless debris after being shot up once. Your scientists say that an Azurium lattice would be even better- but that would defeat the purpose of cost-effective barriers! If you could afford to create paper-thin sheets of Azurium to act as mobile cover for starships, you'd rather just build the damn hulls out of Azurium to begin with. In any case, these lattices will provide a nice one time defense against the Consortium's first volley of energy weapons.
>>
Year 70 of the Resurrection Era
The public pressure and your own personal well of willpower to work on the Stand's defense has been immense- especially after your vow. It would be nice to occupy your mind with something less violent and more cultural- and it just so happens Yino Val has a waiting request to speak with you. You'll do him one better- and visit him at his home in the Great City, your ecumenopolis, and also the home to Jemm and your now growing family...

Yino is quite happy to see you in person.

"Ahh! Your Majesty. Thanks for coming by. I had something to ask you about- something that goes beyond even my authority as Overseer- but we really could have just spoken over a secure transmission line..."
"No no, I insist. I must say, I like how the city looks."
"Thank you! I was worried you may have had the desire to radically change the design we first created before your... your ascension. Once all the art projects were put through without too much of Mann's meddling I have had much more free time. OH! Did you want me to design some new jewelry for your collection? Perhaps a new accessory for your robe- the fur of a different exotic alien, perhaps?"
"Oh... No. I'm taking a break from that sort of thing. I have invested a bit too much into art as of late. Now, what was the thing you wanted to ask me."
"Oh- OH! Yes, yes. It's a silly thing my lord, really. I just figured now would be the best time. I didn't want to ask Bantam while he ruled because I was worried he'd pick something too masculine for it- "Conquest" or something- or he'd blow me off with his military obsession. But I figured with your good taste..."
"What are you talking about, Yino?"
"The name. The name of this planet- this city."
"It already has a name."
"...My lord, the name is The Great City. That's it. It's such a... simple name. Where is the class? Where is the culture?! That's almost as boring as if an Esaal named it. There simply must be a better name we can pick for it."
"Hmm..."

Threemind gives you a small list of names taken from Yino's suggestions- but ultimately- naming not only an entire planet wide city but also the Hegemony's current biggest project is a bit too important for Yino to simply name it himself. He recognizes your importance and imput as the Supreme Ruler. Even now, the city's names have been more placeholder until the project is completed. But now may be a good time to give it a real name, one that will stand the test of time. What will you name it?

>The Great City
>The Wet City
>Conquest
>New Swallia
>Wrixia
>Hegemonia
>Other (Write in)
>>
>>5902048
>New Swallia
>>
>>5902048
>New Swallia
>>
>>5902048
>New Swallia
>>
>>5902048
>Wrixia
>>
New Wallia is a good name
well it does make sure the history of the planet is remembered atleast so it does not simply become another city.
also if we wanted exotic clothes we could just clone up one of the sapient species we exterminated.
that or conquest but we should save that one for something special
>>
>>5902048
>Write In: Tell Yino to name it, he made it a work of art, so this is part of his reward.
>>
>Glory of the Val

Let's give credit where its due. Also make sure Mann gets plenty of screen time and credit in the docuentary and rollout.
>>
>>5902048
>Mannyinoa
This city is a work headed by two Jaxtians, let's honour them both within it.
>>
>>5902048
>Mannyinoa
I like it
>>
>>5902048
>>Mannyinoa
>>
>>5902048
>Mannyinoa
An interesting name and also a good way to show that we've turned a new leaf.
>>
Am i the only one who thinks 'Mannyinoa' sounds like 'Marijoa'?
>>
>>5902048
>Wrixia
>>
>>5902048
>The Wet City
>>
>>5902048
>Jemm

Failing that

>New Swallia
>>
Joke Vote NOT REAL: Wrix's Wild Splashdown

Its a megacity waterpark! Wooo!
>>
>>5902048
>New Swallia
or
>Yino, or some derivative of it
It’s as much Yino’s City as it is the Hegemony’s.
>>
>>5902048
>Mannyinoa
Or
>Hegemonia
I've realized I like the sound of both these names so either is good for me.

>>5902340
Huh, interesting.
>>
>>5902431
lmao lame
>>
>>5902048
>Swallia
>>
>>5902048
>Other (Write in)
Wrix's Wonderous Waterworld
>>
>>5902048
>Wrixia
>>
>>5902048
>Mannyinoa
>>
>>5902048
>>Other (Write in)
Reach
>>
>>5902048
>other
detroit
>>
also how the fuck is our entire nation only able to research 2 technologies per year? (one of which is a fucking cope cape lmao) what's everyone doing?
>>
>>5902742
We're only able to enact and mass-produce to a state of planetoid-degending war-readiness two major technological leaps forward. That's not the same as only researching two things total. We're no doubt discovering and implementing dozens or hundreds of smaller, less monumental or immediately-important discoveries in constructing and populating our planet-wide undersea megacity or revitalizing Xin. If any of them come to fruition (or near fruition) and are useful for the war effort or HVS matters or beating enteopy or whatever else, our science advisor will bring it to our attention.
>>
>>5902742
You know how in 4X games researching tech gets more expensive the bigger and more advanced your empire gets? I imagine it's like that.
>>
>>5902742
>cope cape
How many dimensions of clown world are you on?
>>
I thought the "cope cape" was pretty funny lol
>>
>>5902048
>New Swallia
>>
I don't mind "Manniyoa" in concept, but I'm going to be real with you guys, it looks and sounds like ass. I wish there was some better combination of the names out there.
>>
>>5903096
Wow, I actually misspelled it into something that looks marginally better, maybe because "Mannyinoa" was too weird-looking for my brain to process. Loll.
>>
>>5903097
Mayonnaise it looks like
>>
>>5902162
This or new swalli
>>
File: Spoiler Image (150 KB, 1000x708)
150 KB
150 KB PNG
>>
File: Spoiler Image (25 KB, 431x467)
25 KB
25 KB JPG
>>5903200
>Picrel
>>
Spacer.
>>
>>5903257
No
>>
"Perhaps it should be named after its two greatest collaborators instead of its original name- after all, the species who so named it were defeated utterly."
"Not after you, my Lord?"
"No. Let my legacy speak for itself- instead of my monuments."

Yino nods, though you note with a certain sadness. Does he have pity for the yellow creatures- being yellow himself? You don't think he'd be that shallow.

"...It would be a great honor, my lord. Do not forget, Mann Yumm is the genius mind behind its infrastructure. Though I may have given it a fresh coat of paint... among other things."
"Both of you- Mannyino. Mannyinoa."
"...I would hate to come off as arrogant, my lord, but It would be more traditional to put the nobleman's name first in such a partnership- Yinomann."
"Yinomann is interesting. But still quite a mouthful. Mannyinoa. Yinomannia. M-Y and Y-M."
"Huh. Myym. I like that. Gives it a mystic vibe- the great, wet, planet city of Myym. What do you think, Master?"

While deciding on the name for the city- you also make sure to get the jump on your science teams. Your scientific understanding has advanced two spaces- and you are ready for next year's project. The hype is dying down from your vow- but bureaucratic boredom is no excuse when the stakes are so high. You must decide your next project!

You have also gained a new forecasted project- Mass Production of the Energy-Scattering Material Lattices! The rather low-tech barriers you created are cheap and disposable- but your scientists have a lot of ideas to improve on the concept. Instead of individual barriers, this project could allow for a massive sheet of the material- even including the ability to create holes in it and smart wraps that could allow it to continually protect your ships while also being able to be used multiple times in the battle without falling apart- like a kind of self-adapting and repairing cover for space fleet. Useful. Unfortunately, this project requires more real-world data over your production modules and time to ready up the machinery needed to finish the project. You will need to research Reusuable Energy Lattices first to fully unlock the project.

>Bio-Bot Treachery
>Reusable Lattices
>Laser Effiacy x2 (Repeatable)
>Ship Boarding Drills
>>
>>5903293
>Bio-Bot Treachery
Can we please use this now?
>>
>>5903293
>Bio-Bot Treachery

I am >>5902748
>>
>>5903297
I’d rather not. I figure it’s not worth exposing our inflitrators for what’s likely to be little gain, especially when other options have good potential for increasing our combat effectiveness. I’d rather keep the bots in their society feeding us info, maybe after a long tome they can reach high positions.
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices
Myym is actually not a bad name.

>>5903303
Imagine having a president who is secretly a robot from an alien society.
>>
>Myym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2oEzOtljII
>>
>>5903306
Backlink >>5899938
>>
>>5903293
>Bio-Bot Treachery
>>5903297
Maybe it's for the best - the treachery will be more effective with bio bots implanted higher in the command chain?
>>
Remember bio-bots only have a 50% chance to succeed and will likely escalate the war.
>>
>>5903334
>and will likely escalate the war.
That is unless they will only act once the invasion begins, in which case my bad.
>>
>>5903293
>Ship Boarding Drills
>>
>>5903293
>Ship Boarding Drills
>>
>>5903334
That was last turn possible vote. This turn vote is to attempt placing our chess pieces upper in the chain of command.
Knowing Bananas, he's making our choices matter. So we can't research everything - consuming the celestial blood actually "won" us a research turn. Maybe we have 1 or 2 more turns before the invasion start. I still think bio bot treachery would have worked better as a second turn play, giving them more time to climb the rank and reach peak efficient position, but maybe the time factor will instead play in our favor as the bio-bots had more time to scatter in favorable positions being an early vote?
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices

Little point in having these things if they can only help us once!

Also, I really like Myym. Best option so far.
>>
>Myym
Based Bananas, mogging anons' naming skills.

>Reusable Lattices
>>
File: Spoiler Image (457 KB, 415x624)
457 KB
457 KB PNG
>>5903306
>Imagine having a president who is secretly a robot from an alien society.
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices
Glad Myym was chosen instead.
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices
>>
>>5903200
>>5903202
I will die on this hill.
>>
>>5903293
>Bio-Bot
>Ship Boarding
>>
>>5903293
>Reusable Lattices
>>
>>5903293
>>Ship Boarding Drills
>>
>Reusable Lattices

Bio-bot fags cry waaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaah waaaaah waaaaaaaaaah i want my betrayal. monke say no waaaah waaaaah
>>
>>5903293
>Ship boarding drills

According to our bio-bot spies, is the Consortium still relying primarily on energy weapons and do they appear to have a magnetic or tractor beam device which would sweep away the light chaff screens? If so, then the lattice would be militarily ineffective.
>>
>>5903293
>Ship Boarding Drills
Reusable Lattices doesn't look like they will be more effective for any individual combat and is more of a long term upgrade. On the other hand, ship boarding drills absolutely could help in the upcoming attack on the Stand.
>>
>>5903293
>>5903451
I'll switch my vote to support
>Ship boarding drills
>>
>>5903293
>Ship boarding drills

I think there are good arguments for all three options, but the ship boarding drills are seem more.. broadly versatile?

Good infantry tactics will always be in demand.
>>
We're doing a short voting session this time. Reusable Lattices is the winner.
>>
Your researchers have finished shoring up and strengthening your Energy-Scattering Lattices. Before, they absorbed so much energy they would liquefy and fall apart- unable to vent it into the vacuum of space- but by making them stronger and using nearby ships to harmless disperse that energy with their tractor beams- you can reuse them. However, it will take away from your offensive capabilities to do this during a battle, lowering their usefulness somewhat...

Year 71 of the Resurrection Era
Despite the Stand being on the forefront of your mind, and your "official" palace and residence being back on Jaxt, you've been running your empire more and more from Myym, the oceanic planetary cityscape- which is also the home to your wife, Jenn, and your young child.

You could still run the entire empire from here. Even with your relatively humble accommodations; a Class 5 suite you would not have been caught dead in just a few years ago, you are comfortable here. Still, the job of a Supreme Ruler is never done- you are constantly being thrust around to speak with high ranking members, make speeches, and do all other sorts of things where and when they are needed. But today was a bit different.

On your way past the nursery- you hear Jenn call you inside. There she sits with your young child- your firstborn son. She smiles at you softly.

"Your Son was too shy to ask you himself- he knows you're very busy."
"What is it, Kinji?"
"..."
"...He wanted to spend the day with you today, if that was okay."

Ever since you became the Supreme Ruler and came back to Myym, Jemm has been busy with her new job as your wife, mother of your child, and mate of the Supreme Ruler. She's naturally handed off much of the responsibility of running her Cafe due to her new position. This is the first time she's ever imposed anything on you- she's a grown woman and knows her place in the world. She has not breathed a word of complaint about you or your past- and though you did stop ordering the most beautiful of Jaxtian women into your bedroom once you decided to turn your actions around- it is obvious that left a wound that has not healed. But as your very young, intelligent boy looks up at you, you can't help but feel softened.

The truth is- you are very busy. You have research to assign, Overseers to manage, promotions to handle, talent to scout- and war to prepare for. But like any good Supreme Ruler should be, you are a realist. Truthfully, a single day in either direction won't change anything in a significant matter. It won't patch up your relationship with Jenn, it won't enrich your son to become the greatest candidate for Supremacy of all time, nor will it win you the war if you decide to work instead. But what should you do?

>Take the day off
>Spend the day working
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off

However, one thing can take priority : the battle starting.
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off
I feel like this is a trick question somehow.
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off
>>
>>5904036
>Spend the day working
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off
I would HOPE that we don't have literally everything in our empire of billions hinge on the personal approval of a single monke.

>>5904051
Pretty much just this, yes. Unless there's a giant crisis, it's rather doubtful anything will happen.
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off.

Good dad time.
>>
>>5904036
>>Spend the day working
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off
>>
>>5904036
>Spend the day working
>>
>>5904087
>I would HOPE that we don't have literally everything in our empire of billions hinge on the personal approval of a single monke.
The hegemony ran serviceably well after Hass killed the last one and spent several years being a selfish prick, so it's probably fine.
I miss the fur cowl, desu
>>
>>5904036
>Spend the day working
>>
>>5904036
>Bring your Son to Work Day
I mean, we can't be with him often. Perhaps if he gets to see how busy we are on an average workday he'll grow up understanding Why, and not resenting our greater absence?

But as write-ins probably aren't accepted;
>Take the day off
I mean, we spent a years being an irresponsible asshole, and I'm sure we'll get an immediate alert in case of a critical development. Right?
>>
>>5904247
>Bring your Son to Work Day
A good idea, but we lost write-in privileges.
>>
>>5904247
>>Bring your Son to Work Day
Not bad. I'd change my vote if write-ins were allowed.
I'm not sure what exactly this vote means in the grand scheme of things, guess we'll find out wither way.
>>
>>5904036
>Take the day off
>>
>>5904036
>Bring your Son to Work Day

Take my write-in boss
>>
>>5904036
>>Take the day off
>>
>>5904036
>Bring your Son to Work Day
We're not a monarchy, but might as well get the kid learning via exposure. Also, only one son? Gotta get at it, wouldn't want all your eggs in one basket.
>>
Didn't BQM van write ins after what happened last thread? (Which I still can't figure out.)
>>
pic related
>>
>>5904036
>Bring Your Son to Work Day
Barring that, take the day off, but instruct Threemind to inform us immediately if something major occurs, and tell the wife and kid that we love them, but alien invasions have to come first.
>>
>>5904036
>Bring your Son to Work Day
>>
File: Spoiler Image (169 KB, 680x680)
169 KB
169 KB PNG
As expected, wasn't able to get the update finished before I ran out of time today. Have a shitpost in the meantime- courtesy of the Discord server. Real update in 24 hours.
>>
>>5904587
I do ass huffing as well. Does that make me gay?
>>
>>5904587
what the fuck is this heresy
>>
>>5904587
I assumed everyone got that he had a backwards penis from the other images and descriptions, and just found it pegging-adjacent because of the dynamic and pose.

>>5904600
Afraid so, but that's okay.
>>
"Heyyyy- Denoth! My man, been a while since I've seen you!"
"Oh- hi! Yeah, I've been busy with security detail. They've been having us lugging around our water all the time now in preparation for the attack..."
"Pfft... Hey, listen, don't take this the wrong way but... your voice... Hahaha!"
"Fuck you, man. Look, I've got the nose plugs in, all right? The jug is watertight, double sealed plastic- but I can smell it. Its driving me crazy! Gotta keep the plugs in. I'm following my moisture rationing. I'm being good."
"...Well, sorry for making fun of it. You have to, what, chug that whole thing if we get boarded?"
"Yeah. The Jaxtians are known to do that. So if we get boarded, I'll drink this and then... go apeshit, I guess. Pun intended."
"Hold on Denny. You're one of the nicest guys I know- you're closer to a Leraay. Not like these other sex and machismo obsessed men of other species in the Consortium. I could never see you being a roided up rage warrior like that."
"I mean, I'm not but... it's the water. It'll make me... change. It's my Must. You know?"
"Alright, alright. I won't push it. Sounds rough. I'll make sure to hide behind you if we do get attacked!"
"Don't. I won't be the same person then... stay in engineering and stick to cover. Alright?"
"Alright. I'll see you on the other side, bro."
“You too.”
>>
>>5904600
Imagine being a straightcuck. Couldn't be me
Seriously though identify as whatever makes you comfortable. Live your truth, anon .
>>
>>5905080
Are you going to make us feel sympathy for people before we brutally kill them again?
>>
>>5905179
I'm trying to.
>>
File: file.png (3.58 MB, 1920x1080)
3.58 MB
3.58 MB PNG
>>5905189
i don't feel anything, shouldn't have signed on with the McNavy
>>
>>5905179
I would unironically play a Consortium businessman or slice-of-life quest. Their civilization has so many cool, weird aliens.
>>
>>5905189
all sodliers are like that and eventually everyone dies just who you prioritize those closer to you but also they signed up for it they are our enemies either way.

lets see if we can find a species that hold there britches to be assimilated instead of rebeling.
another thought is they would be fine if it was one of there own leading them and there species
>>
It also tells us that if we unleash something to break those tanks we'll take out the enemy tanks. Not that we need to worry about that with our super-troopers, but probably easier to capture the elephants in baby mode rather than adult mode. Would be another example of Consortium neoteny.
>>
>>5905080

Now I REALLY wanna board them. Get wrecked, Babar!
>>
>>5905080
not smelling anything thats just the hallucinations
>>
You have decided to spend the day with your son- while instructing the AI to give you some light duties while with him. Take your Son to work day. While not able to perform the full gambit of your duties with him in tow- averting his eyes from the cruelty of dictatorship and the tedium of financial and military spending- you can still perform some basic tasks. Perhaps he can learn something. Jemm seems to approve.

You first stay at home for a while longer to enjoy a breakfast with the whole family. You discuss your plans, and then walk the safe city streets. You visit the cafe with your baby boy, and talk to the locals about their problems- besides the unanimous praise, it's always good to speak to those on the “ground floor” of any industry or department of the Hegemony. Something your AI system does for you- but this face to face interaction can still be enlightening.

It's very pleasant.

After just a few hours, the little guy is tuckered out. It's been a busy and exciting day. You unwind at your Myymish home with Jemm, doing some light correspondence with various heads of state. Exactly as you expected- this single day made no appreciable difference. Jemm is much warmer with you for the following week, but soon grows distant again as your difference of lifestyle and only connection being your biological offspring forces you apart again. Your son- while having a great time today- will only remember some of this as he grows older and his brain and body become more developed and absorb new, more useful patterns to the Hegemony and his potential for Supremacy- if he has it in him at all. While not able to perform your full duties- your schedule is simply shifted back one day in the calendar year, your AI automating as many tasks as it can. The changes or loss of budget is a pocketful of marks- advancement in science delayed is measured in estimated seconds or hours- not days or weeks. In the end, it was just one day of your life, so unimportant that its total value cannot be measured or correlated to any possible outcome of the future. Just one day. While Jemm may think it was for your son, really, it was for you.
>>
A few months later, midway through the 71st year of this era, a sudden emergency alert pings you from the Stand. Hyperspace signals have been detected coming in from the direction of the Consortium. It's happening.

You muster your forces, and take an emergency trip to the frontline. The military, readied and constantly massing at the fortress planet, is well drilled and morale is high. Your admiral, an unimportant but still competent leader, addresses you.

“Sire! The AI system has been constantly keeping me up to date with tactical and strategic data. It seems in comparison between the Consortium and Hegemony, our matchup is considered Fair. We won't crush them, but they won't crush us either. We won't let you down!”

Hmm. You see why Bantam would have wanted you as Admiral. Not because this man is incompetent, but simply because it would be nice to have a fellow Supreme-level candidate able to pick up some slack. You'll be in charge of the artillery, the civilian response, the main fleet, support fleet, and stealth cruiser strike fleet- not to mention the ship boarding parties. If Bantam was in your position now, you would gain a bonus to your fleet strength from having a specially groomed leader for the fleet. Oh well, it's too late for that now.

You also meet up with Maktana III, your science advisor. Closely related to your military has been your advancement in research- of which he has been the lead. Despite his skill and competence in the position, you wasted multiple years of research time over the power struggle and your decadent lifestyle as well as the Xin special project, while the enemy fleet also mustered faster then expected. However, you also gained some time back with your vow. This is probably why you aren't as well prepared as you would have hoped.

Your AI goes over the most likely possibilities over your research progress...
>>
The Consortium Flight would arrive in 7 Years as determined by this die roll total. (>>5881701)
The First die determined how many years until the Battleship prompt (if you had the research)
The Third die determined how many extra projects or the effectiveness of your spies. With a result of one, that means your Bio-Bots could only gain access to entry level positions and low-ranking military posts- no extra research projects were unlocked.

Bio-Bot Dispersion gave you access to more research options and gave you advanced forewarning of the Enemy Battleship.
Bio-Bot Treachery research would have stunned the enemy fleet at the start of the battle.
Suicide Bomb-Bots would have been a potential future research option, dealing 20% direct fleet damage at the start of the battle. (Required a Die Roll of 4 or more.)

Energy Scattering Lattices absorbs the first 10% of damage you take in the combat.
Reusable Lattices lets you spend a combat action repairing your lattices, restoring the amount of damage they can absorb instead of attacking. Your artillery still attacks during this round.
Mass Production would have increased the amount of damage absorption of your barriers by 5% per research. Repeatable. The barriers must still be recharged each time after the first depletion.

Laser Cooling increased your Laser Artillery's damage from 5% to 10% per round
Laser Efficacy increased your Laser Artillery's damage by a further 3% per round. Repeatable. You researched it one time.

Autonomous Squads would have allowed your Elite Ship Boarders to jump from ship to ship using hoverpacks and personal shielding. Requires Reusable Lattices to protect them from enemy ship fire. This would result in being able to “steal” a small amount of enemy fleet power per round. Considered the “pinnacle” research tech on this tree.

Ship Boarding Tactics would have gave you the option to storm the completed battleship at a 1/3 chance of success as well as increasing your fleet power by 3%.
Ship Boarding Drills increased the above to 2/3 and 6% fleet power.
Elite Ship Boarders increased the above further to 100% chance to seize the battleship and increased your fleet power by 10%. Requirement for the Autonomous Squads super-research.

Celestial Blood research would have revealed further uses for the material, as well as revealing it is drunk as “wine” by the Aristocrats and its various benefits. However, without a source of the material, you couldn't have started any of these projects and none of them are useful for the war. Trap choice.

Because you decided to spend your excess wealth Defending your People, you gain an additional +2% fleet power.
>>
You have arrived to The Stand. The warp signatures are incoming now- the Consortium will be here any minute now. Your ships are ready to fight- forming a blockade and attack formation, aimed in advance to where their fleet will “land” in this system.

”My lord, I am surprised you did not set up your base at the Stand bunker itself.”
”I have no intention of putting my own life on the line for something as silly as pride. That was Bantam's foolish choice. Besides, if I was to fail to keep the Stand and my vow, then it would not be much of a punishment to be killed right after. Or captured.”
”That cannot be allowed to happen.”
”Agreed.”

You have moved your mobile base of operations to a single frigate- a smaller ship class, weaponless, and equipped only with the best engines your society is capable of. You have donated your imperial cruiser to join the main fleet instead. You have set up on the edge of the battle- out of the way enough to avoid being put in unnecessary danger- but close enough to still oversee the battle without actually being on the planet itself. This way, you can escape quickly if all else fails.

”Master- what are you commands for the start of the battle? When the enemy ships warp in- they will be vulnerable for but a moment. We could give them a warning and tell them to leave.”
”What, and lose a strategic advantage?”
”It could be seen as a sign of wisdom and fairness. After all, it is likely they will lie and claim they only wanted to try and scare us away- and we attacked without provocation. At least if we let them make the first strike, it'll be unarguable we fought in defense.”
”Bah. Capitalist dogs. They lie about everything...”

The Consortium ships will arrive any second. What will you do as your final preparation?

>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
>Let them attack you (Consortium gets first strike)
>Hide your ships behind civilian stations (Minor Atrocity, take half damage first round)
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
>>
>>5905895
>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
>>
>>5905895
>>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
>>
>>5905895
>>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)

Don't they still have energy lattices that negate our first artillery strike? That's what happened last time. Buffing artillery sounds great but I think it's a trap option.
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)

They have the same lattices we do- probably better, even.
>>
>>5905895
>>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Hide your ships behind civilian stations (Minor Atrocity, take half damage first round)
>>
>>5905895
>>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)

Seems lie the only choice with some... JUICE!
>>
>>5905895
>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
Told ya the mini-game was a wash- the ‘pinnacle‘, while rad, was just never gonna happen from the voter base, especially after the transition period.
>>
>>5906210
I think that if we'd known there'd be a special option later down the tree there would've been more push to focus on various tech branches, but with it hidden there was no incentive to do so. I wonder if rolling higher than 1 on the biobots would've revealed the possibility to us?
>>
>>5905889
>wasted multiple years of research time over the power struggle
What power struggle? Didn't the Hegemony immediately obey?
>>
>>5906216
I doubt it- we knew about there being ‘hidden’ tech, but that doesn’t really solve the incentive problem. In fact, it sorta reinforces the opposite- ‘building’ wide instead of tall, just to find out the other potential tech that we’d never get to. That’s not even involving what a pit-trap the laser tech were- a dead end and a time sink, which anons fell for.

Ultimately, we squandered our every advantage to achieve the status of a fair fight, when our Military might was superior beforehand- and that was before burning our economy by demilitarizing the HVS when we could’ve just split the fleet and dealt with the piracy problem and still have them available for the Stand.

I could go on about the Reds pulling a Barbarossa on the HVS while we’re distracted with our pissing contest, but honestly anons don’t really give a shit about the HVS so I won’t bother. I do find it fucking retarded that we chose to destroy our tradition and fuck over the elite over simply getting a loan from the HVS (the smart and irl solution) if we’re just going to fuck them over anyway and cancel all our debts.

>>5906248
It’s referring to Bantam‘s assassination and the ensuing chaos of a new Supreme coming into power unexpectedly.
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5906255
I mean, I wouldn't say that anons "fell for" the lasers. If we sunk all our upgrades into the one tiny incremental bonus after finding out what it did, that'd be one thing, but we went in, found out, then stopped and did other stuff. Definitely agreed on the wide vs. tall, though
>>
>>5905080
>We will never get a Jaxtian and Cow alien doing a bro fistbump
>>
>>5905895
>>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
Kill em
>>
>>5905895
>Hide your ships behind civilian stations (Minor Atrocity, take half damage first round)
>>
>>5906289
I am pissed off the voters voted TWICE for the super doomy doom options .
>>
>>5906481
Its like some Baki "I want to taste defeat" level stuff, but I'm over it. What happens, happens.
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
>>
>>5905895
>Move your boarding ships into a good position (Special encounter as Jale Berax)
I'm glad we avoided the trap option
>>
>>5906575
Not neccessarily a good thing. What could lose us this war might win against the Cyte- the True Threat
>>
File: 1650048079852.jpg (25 KB, 720x394)
25 KB
25 KB JPG
>>5906481
>>
>>5906745
Post feet.
>>
>>5906745
Fuck it if we're going demonmode... I like the Consortium better than the Hegemony. I think their lore is more interesting there mix of species and factions I find more dynamic than the monolith of the Hegemony, and as far as I know, they didn't have any mass genocides where children were tortured to death in front of their parents.
>>
>>5906688
It wouldn't matter unless we got a direct source of celestial blood, at which point we'd be free to do it anyway.
>>
Consortium simping is strong today. Good, good, all according to plan...

HAIL THE WORMS
>>
>>5905895
>Power up the artillery (Double Artillery Power for the first round)
>>
>>5906926
No- instead their children were ritually sacrificed to satiate the Worm’s hunger. A step below genocide, but not by much.
>>
>>5906926
The Consortium is just too filled with disgusting species like the worms or the leerays to be better than the hegemony. I still miss the cowbros and hate that retards refused to bring them back when we had the chance, but at least the hegemony isn't ruled by the (((Worms)))
>>
>>5906926
Fair. And balanced.
>>
>>5906932
What if Celestial Blood is refined from whatever 5th dimensional structure hold the Worm's minds while they pilot the bodies remotely?
>>
>>5907067
then we're going to make a giant juicer
>>
>>5906999
I forget how many people the worms need to eat a day. or how many works you needed fed for hyperspace support.
Also was it ever explained why they have to eat people anyway instead of like, live crabs or whatever?
>>
>>5907095
Nihilism- they simply eat them for the powertrip. They tried pulling the same shit with Eoba, and when it failed it triggered their entire race.
>>
You have decided to move your fleets into a good position to make use of your boarding squads. Jale Berax, the Hegemonic military's darling, stands at the ready. The warp signature gets closer.

”I believe this was the most wise choice, your majesty. While our other weapons are powerful, we cannot know if the Consortium has brought a counter.”
”What of the Artillery? Using those against the screens would have been foolish.”
”...We weren't sure if they'd use the screens again, but considering we never developed a counter measure with our current technology- it makes sense they'd just bring more. Technology can change battlefield dynamics very quickly- but we don't think the Consortium has improved much in that regard since the previous... oh! They're here.”
”...There are that many?”
”Oh no.”
>>
Combat Rules
Please read this section carefully.

Both sides will take turns firing at each other. Players roll both for the Hegemony and the Consortium. The Hegemony goes first. Each round/post, you roll a 1d20. The damage of the attack is modified by the percentage fleet power remaining[/i] for each side respectively on their turn. The damage of an attack lowers the other side's fleet power by that value. This means as the battle goes on, both sides will do less damage with their standard attacks. Values over 100% mean they do more then the die roll of damage, regardless of starting values. You can easily calculate this value by multiplying the percentage to the roll- such as a fleet with 80% fleet power remaining will do x0.8 times the damage of their roll. The damage of any roll is always rounded to the nearest tenth of a percent.

During the Hegemony's round, you also fire your laser artillery. Because the artillery are on the planet with their own power sources, their damage is flat and independent of your fleet strength. The artillery fires every Hegemony round, but has no effect the first round, due to the energy screens. Your artillery deal 13% damage per round.

Due to your research, you have also gained an additional action you may take on the Hegemony's turn only. This action doesn't allow you to fire your weapons, but instead recharge your defense lattices up to their maximum value, which is 10%. The lattices absorb incoming damage up to their maximum value, and the rest of the damage slips through. Your lattices start the combat “fully charged”.

Because the Hegemony brought their civilian infrastructure into the system, the Hegemony fleet repairs 2% fleet power per round. This repair takes place immediately after the Hegemony attacks or recharges its defenses, thus meaning it does not effect the damage you deal. You cannot exceed your starting fleet power with this value.

Because you do not have a dedicated Admiral, you do not get to swap dice.
Because you chose to spend time with your family instead of working, you miss out on 00.1% bonus fleet power.

When either side is reduced to 50% fleet power or less, the battle is paused and no more rolls count.

The same poster may roll multiple times, as long as another poster rolls inbetween your posts. Please give everyone a chance to roll.
One post ID posters may not participate.
>>
The Consortium Fleet arrives in the system. Along with their ships come the energy screens, waving like banners through space, unfurled before each contingent. Around the Stand- all of the Hegemony's combat ready ships are placed- in ready defense. This is the full muster of your entire empire's military. Over the next few seconds- their fleet warps in- more and more ships fill in the peripheries of your viewscreen. The cloud of ships grows deep.

After the last battle, in which you flounced the Consortium who came here- you were not sure how much they'd bring. Given how badly you humiliated their force and scattered it to the wind, as well as destroyed two of their valuable nuclear payload bunker-busters, Hegemonic officials were confident they couldn't send another wave of a similar strength so quickly- they would have to rebuild first. Now, you realize the true and full power of the Consortium's industry. The enemy outnumbers you two to one.

No words are warning is given. The moment they appear- you begin firing at them, and they at you. So begins the last battle of The Stand!

Consortium Fleet- 200.0%
Hegemony Fleet- 105.0%

You can roll by typing “dice+1d20” into the options field!

>Roll
>>
Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>5907176
>>
Rolled 2 (1d20)

>>5907176
Who shall be a lucklet and who shant?
>>
>>5907183
>>5907184
We shall be the lucklets, it seems.
>>
Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>5907176
>>
>>5907183
>>5907184
>>5907195
Uhm...this is good for us, isn't it? That's 22 vs 2 for us. Hegemony, Consortium, then Hegemony. We're doing good?
>>
Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>5907176
….what’s the catch? Going over a certain number won’t fuck us over, right?
>>
Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>5907176
Never tell me the odds.
>>
>>5907198
Oh, we’re doing it by turns? Sorry I rolled then- that 11 to 1 damage would’ve been neat.
>>
>>5907205
never roll again

Well on the bright side we've dealt...62 damage.
>>
Rolled 6 (1d20)

>>5907200
I think the catch is that they're about twice as strong and, unless we're very lucky, we'll lose a battle of attrition. Though the artillery are a nice static buff.

>>5907176
I believe I can roll again, if I understand correctly?
>>
Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>5907176
Okay let's try for the hegemony
>>
>>5907213
Not bad. With this, we've done 87 damage. We're on a lead. The laser is gonna b
>>
>>5907216
Be our saving grace. As long as we don't roll badly
>>
I think it's optimal to be spamming the shield recharge. It might make this battle take forever though.
>>
>>5907218
How much health do we have left?
>>
>>5907219
I really don't feel like doing the calculations but I don't think it matters
>>
Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>5907218
Well we should omit doing the shield recharge when they roll really low in any case.

>>5907176
Consortium roll
>>
>>5907221
Yeah but now we're running low. It's until 50, and we only have 100. Since the laser gun fires even if we don't, we can just keep spamming the lattice.
>>5907176
This turn repair lattices, let the artillery do its job.
>>
>>5907226
If they roll a 1 or a 2, that's only 2-4 damage even if they are max hp. We would only be recharging 2-4 HP worth of shield in exchange for what would be a lot more damage.
>>
>>5907227
Yes but that doesn't matter anon, we still make 13 damage every turn. If we keep repairing lattices, then as long as we don't roll really high, we'll eventually win.
>>
File: maybe.png (8 KB, 367x180)
8 KB
8 KB PNG
Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>5907176
I think we are looking at this?

>>5907176
Rolling as well.
>>
>>5907229
Also, doesn't it go up to 10? If they roll 3, then the next we still have 7 left, no?
>>
>>5907230
You forgot to add the lattice repairing damage. The first one would have been p damage. Yours is now 2.
>>
>>5907176
The best turn of action is to repair. Because of our shitty amount of HP about rolls get decreased, but not artillery. And we can keep doing it. We repair 2 every turn and we negate 10. That means that we only take damage if it's 13-20
>>
Rolled 14 (1d20)

>>5907231
Correct, which is why it's more efficient when they low roll to attack instead of regen shield.

Which we should do after this next Consortium roll, since the last guy wanted to attack.

>>5907176
>Consortium roll

please recharge shields after this
>>
>>5907230
you rolled two times already, please stop rolling attacks unless they are Consortium attacks, we need to be recharging the lattices
>>
Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>5907176
Yolo Hegemony roll
>>
>>5907241
You dumb fuck, we needed to recharge. This is why this system is a bad idea. It's so easy to have it be ruined by bad faith actors.
>>
>>5907241
Damn, people really just don't read huh. We're going to lose the stand because people just want to roll and only want to interact in the minimal possible way.
>>
>>5907244
Yes, so much for the minigame. I don't know why bananas thought "ah yes, just let everyone and anyone roll whanever they want, that's a good system!"

So much for our effort when retards can just ruin it. But then again, that was probably bananas' goal.
>>
>>5907245
Funny thing is previous combats had anti-retard griefing systems, but this one doesn't seem to. Anyone can just say "oh I was just rolling to damage the enemy fleet and didn't see that recharging was way better". Shame really.

We *could* just ping pong doing it with just the two of us but that seems to be in bad spirit.
>>
File: maybe.png (11 KB, 502x198)
11 KB
11 KB PNG
>>5907234
Good catch.

In that case...
>>5907183 H
>>5907184 C
>>5907195 H
>>5907200 C
>>5907205 H
>>5907208 C
>>5907213 H
>>5907221 C
>>5907226 H
>>5907230 C
>>5907237 H
>>5907241 C

>>5907176
I'll repair lattices. or I would, but I think the minigame has hit the 50% mark and the battle has stalled, maybe?
>>
File: maybe.png (12 KB, 557x200)
12 KB
12 KB PNG
>>5907248
Wait, no, forgot to subtract 10 damage form the last Consortium attack due to the lattice recharge! We're still in this! Unless >>5907241 took us out since it was actually a Consortium roll, which it may still have done unless I'm still missing something.
>>
>>5907248
This math doesn't account for the Hegemony dealing damage reducing the strength of the Consortium before they roll. Also, I have no idea what's going on in your last two calculations to get the Hegemony HP from 57 to 44. Even if the 12 roll wasn't shielded it wouldn't take Hegemony down to 44, and there are lattices on top of that.
>>
>>5907246
Sadly, it seems it's already over. That's two threads worth of buildup destroyed because "lol lmao"

I mean, I'm certain bananas thought this was a good system because it kinda worked in NWS (it didnt), but that was a quest where players had identities and didn't want to fuck themselves over

Now we lost because of some retards purposefully throwing the battle.
>>
File: 1f614.png (22 KB, 512x512)
22 KB
22 KB PNG
>Wrote up self-serving battle mechanics inspired by NWS so players can amuse themselves as filler between updates
>It's already over in less than an hour
I mean it's obvious in hindsight but still.
>>
>>5907253
I'm not sure I would attribute this to malice here. Never underestimate people's capacity for retardation. To be fair, Banana's entire prompt is ">Roll" when one of our options is not rolling.
>>
>>5907255
>Using a system from a quest with players that literally used passwords on an anonymous quest where people who want to ruin it can
What did you think was gonna happen?
>>
File: maybe.png (12 KB, 557x200)
12 KB
12 KB PNG
>>5907252
Ah, you're right,s icne we go first, our damage dealt would afefct their damage dealt on teh same 'round'. So... Maybe we're still in this?

>>5907255
Or maybe not. I must still be missing something. I tried my best.
>>
>>5907259
Thanks for the effort regardless
>>
>>5907251
Well if it's still missing health, one of you guys just spam lattice repair until either of us loses because I'm going to sleep.
>>
>>5907248
>>5907262
Well it does seem to be our turn, so I'll get one in if it's not over.

>>5907176
>Repair Lattices
>>
>>5907262
If we're still in it, I did so:

>>5907248
>I'll repair lattices

However, Bananas probably has the more reliable math than what I've done up on the fly, and he seems to be saying we're done.

>>5907263
I think I have us covered, so you could roll for Consortium, if it isn't done.
>>
>>5907264
Eh, I'll leave rolling for Consortium for others, I've taken enough actions. I also need to get to sleep.
>>
>>5907243
Any mini-game based on collective decision-making was always going to be shit- the previous Stand mini-game proved it.

>>5907244
I read it, just didn’t understand it. When I figured we were taking turns like the Jale/Esaal duel, figured understanding was irrelevant due to the potential of trolls just fucking it up anyway.

>>5907243
>>5907244
I do apologize for fucking us over- it was not my intention, even if I was gong-ho with the other anons rolling again.

>>5907255
I apologize again, but you should’ve used the a time-based reroll limit instead of a participation-based model.
>>
>>5907271
You don't need to apologize. People are allowed to make mistakes, doesn't make them a "troll".
>>
>>5907282
Are we below 50%, then?
>>
>>5907255
I'm just here for the popcorn. Really enjoying this thread so far though!!!!
>>
>>5907283
idk why you asking me?
The battle isn't "over" at 50 just paused so I can work on the next bit.
>>
>>5907286
>idk why you asking me?
Because you're the QM and you have the clearest understanding of how this game you designed works, and because I want to know whether were paused or if we should still be rolling. I thought that kind of went without saying.
>>
Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>5907176
>Rolling Consortium Fire

If you want the monkeys to win, next person should block.
>>
Actually, if the above chart is correct we're at 51 HP before start of turn, so any action will result in the opponent dropping below 50.
>>
File: maybe.png (13 KB, 629x201)
13 KB
13 KB PNG
>>5907296
>>5907298
I'll restore our shields, I guess? Which I think means we win?

I don't know anymore.
>>
Rolled 11 (1d20)

>>5907176
Attacking
>>
>>5907303
>Because the Hegemony brought their civilian infrastructure into the system, the Hegemony fleet repairs 2% fleet power per round. This repair takes place immediately after the Hegemony attacks or recharges its defenses, thus meaning it does not effect the damage you deal. >You cannot exceed your starting fleet power with this value.
Might need to rework the initial numbers lad.

>>5907307
Hold ya horses, I though we were on pause.
>>
>>5907307
I'm reasonably sure we either won or lost by now.
>>
>>5907310
>Might need to rework the initial numbers lad.
Right you are, though I don't think it'll change the outcome in this instance.
>>
>>5907312
Also, the enemy doesn’t take damage if we didn’t attack- those Restore Shield moves shouldn’t cause the enemy more damage, because we didn’t roll/attack.
>>
>>5907316
No, our artillery is still attacking, it's just our ships that don't
>>
>>5907320
Ah- my mistake then
>>
Ignoring the one 12 Consortium attack roll in the first table because if it is parsed the shield actions are all being taken on the Consortium's turn, I get the attached. Did I do a bad math somewhere? If my math was correct, then it's the Hegemony's turn, they have 67.8 fleet power and 0.6 shields, and the Consortium has 85.3 fleet power. Optimal action is recharging the shields.
>>
Because damage is modified by fleet strength, I think that it is impossible for us to lose if we keep up the shields (ie. a 20 gets cut to 17, drops us to around 60, up to 62. Another 20 gets cut to 15, drops up to around 57, up to 59. Another 20 gets cut to around 12, drops us to 57, back up to 59. Only sabotage/foolishness results in failure for the Hegemony.
>>
Oops, I added a monkey shield on the Yolo 8 for some reason, but it doesn't change the outcome. See attached. The green is current turn. Everything below that is a projection if Heg blocks and Consortium crits.
>>
Oh, and since it's Hegemony's turn
>>5907176
>>5907307
>Restore shields
>>
Rolled 9 (1d20)

Reeeeee
>>
>>5907307
>>5907374
I choose not to restore the shields on my attack.
>>
>>5907176
>Restore the shields
>>
Rolled 13 (1d20)

Uhhhhh
>>
>Restore shields
>>
I don't have time to do the totals right now but just remember it pauses when one side gets to 50%. Anything after that will be ignored.
>>
>>5907403
Nice try clown but you rolled for the Consortium
>>
There's no reason to continue the battle mini-game, since you've already figured out an essentially unbeatable strategy. Other then the recharge thing being a bit too strong (originally it was just going to be a slugfest with every upgrade being passive to spice up your rolls), this battle worked out pretty much exactly how I wanted.

How are you feeling about the thread so far? It's already at page 7, surprised how fast it's going.
>>
Rolled 15 (1d20)

>>5907568
I guess it's mine and the Hegemony's turn again. I choose not to restore shields.
>>
>>5907688
It's fun.
>>
File: monke screen 4.png (358 KB, 1106x1012)
358 KB
358 KB PNG
>>5907700
What's your deal?
>>
>>5907688
its how battlefields often work you optimize it like why soldiers did not have armor when guns got invented and just threw them out to get mowed down.
its interesting how defenses have caught up too weapons it used to be opposite until armor was meaningless
>>
>>5907707
he wants us to lose, obviously. which is why he keeps spamming attack while being told 'no, that's retarded'
>>
>>5907707
I'm a dog chasing cars.
>>
>>5907688
Really liking thread so far. Congrats to us with a comically low 3d6 roll managing to win the clearly unfavoreable fight. We missed on surprisingly few things with hindsight.
>>
>>5907255
Sorry it didnt work out like you wanted. If its any solace I don't like these minigames so am happy we can get back to the narrative choices more quickly
>>
>>5907688
Nit a fan of the pacing, ( a bit hypocritical of me I know) it feels a bit slower than other quests, it feels like despite being going on for a while both in page count and days not much has happened. Or I mean stuff HAS happened, but ti feels like it's happened slower.

Or maybe its because Hass's reign didn't have that many choices that interested me . We had a couple of tech tree decisions that I personally wasn't that invested in (maybe have fewer of those per thread or have the pay off for them come closer to the vote). And the Celestial Wine choice which was a fun vote but hasn't had a payoff yet, but aside from that Hass has been boring for me. I want to see what the HVS is doing now, or see a narrative pay off to the celestial wine. The vibe of this quest kinda felt like sitting on our thumbs waiting for this big Stand battle
>>
>>5907758
Apparently, players found and exploit by constantly healing or something?
>>
>>5907776
i think its just called strategy or the right techtree fight between civilizations are never a fair fight
>>
>>5907785
I meant from a game pov. BQM is literally stopping it early because people figured out how to trick it like a speedrunner or something

>>5907688
>>
>>5907793

Yeah, definitely not reminding me of the Octopus fight in that other quest from Bananas
>>
>>5907749
scorpion chasing frogs*
>>
>>5907832
>scorpion-descended pursuit predator dedicated to hunting vertebrates
Terrifying.

>>5907688
I actually came around to liking Hass, thanks to how you wrote the arc. The minigames I'm always pretty indifferent towards, but this thread has over all been my favorite in a while. It's captured the fun vibe of the first few threads, I think.
>>
>>5907688
Things have been pretty kino, everything considered. Hass has been a very interesting character.
I personally like the minigame, it reminds me of the space arcade games where you have to level up your ship (don't remember what they're called).

>>5907886
>It's captured the fun vibe of the first few threads
That I have to agree with.
>>
>>5907688
It's been an interesting thread. To paraphrase Joe Rogan, "I love a success story, but you know what I like MORE than a success story? A guy fucks his life up then gets his shit back together story." That pretty well sums up Hass.
>>
You are now Denoth Usspprrooo of the Northern Latitude, and your ship is being boarded.

The Consortium military wasn't exactly honest about you being shipped out here- most people fear being assigned to any unit operating near Jaxtian space. But not even a few weeks ago, you were told you'd be part of the attack on the stolen Galax mining planet- and were issued an immediate pay raise. You didn't actually think this would happen- as you see the Jaxtian marines burst onto your ship and kill everyone they come across.

With the great water jug sloshing on your back- you realize it's time. Time to put this to good use. You run into the nearest closet and unplug your nose, grabbing the jug, and ripping the seal. The artificial smell of rain hits your nose and fills you with a sense of longing.

Your home planet of Pos is an arid place. With only very few oceans, the planet has rapid swings of hot and cold temperatures, and the equator is uninhabitable due to the intense heat. Crossing it can only be done during the winter months, moving only at night. Living things on your planet live on the higher or lower latitude bands- this, along with the importance of remembering water holes and good grazing locations- is likely how your species gained its very long memory and intelligence.

The other species of the Consortium don't understand your species relationship with water. You can't drink any liquids without care- your body isn't built for it- retaining and recycling its own moisture. From your desert homelands you would often go months or years without drinking from an open source of water- because there would be no fresh water at all. Only when the rains come, that is the only time when your body could ever get a drink.

Even now, smelling this exposed source of water in this plastic jug feels exciting, exotic- something special and rare. Because to your species- this is a very special time.

Only when it rains- a random rare event happening only once every six months to three years- does your species enter its most important season. All life on your home planet is like this. The plants bloom, predators and prey drink together, and the females fill their wombs with water. Enough to sustain an entire pregnancy and enough for their infant child to support itself or the first few years of its life. It's critical, as in just a few days or even hours, the water will be gone again.
>>
The males- like yourself- are less water dependent. Your testicles are dry, desiccated husks. That is, until you drink water. The water from the jug fills your thirsty throat, your trunk- designed to keep dust out and moisture in with each breath, pokes out of the water so you can breathe while you drink as greedily as you can.

But a curious arms race developed among the male half of your species. With water being so precious, and the rains so rare, it became a race to which male could compete and impregnate females. There's no time for anything else- no time even for conscious thought or planning. The instant the water fills your veins, you feel the surge of your body producing hormones and sperm in equal measure- you feel your sex organs engorge. The effect is so instant that, to another species, it almost appears like a switch has been flipped. Fights for dominance- sex- all of it happens in a flash. The ones who couldn't adapt to this went extinct.

Your people don't cry, don't produce sweat, don't make snot, and don't even urinate. It's too precious for your body to give off any moisture. But the men during their must? They leak testosterone.

“Oh my... God... I need to fuck. Right now. I need to fuck right now.”
“Right now. It can't wait.”
“I'm going to open this door, and there are going to be ten, no, TWENTY women behind it. What if there are? I'll fuck them all.”
“Right now.”
“I'm on a ship though... what are the chances of that? No no- it could happen.”
“Ggrrrgggg... RIGHT fucking now.”
“What if there are men behind the door? Soldiers-?”
“I'll beat the fucking SHIT out of them.”
“Where are they?”
“Lemme fuck. Get out of the way. NOW!”
“I need it. I need it. I need it. I will have it. Right now. NOW!”
>>
You are now Jale Berax, and you have boarded a specific ship of the Consortium. Expecting light resistance, the tricks and traps of the Consortium have put your boarder crews on the back foot.

”...They're putting up more of a fight then we thought.”

The rest of your squad, setting up a beachhead and a perimeter, were left behind as a sudden Consortium attack in the hallways by drones and subsonic ammunition pushed them back and killed multiple of them. Because the Hegemony has not invested as heavily into the boarding parties- this was taking longer and not as easy as you hoped.

Then, suddenly, a scream shakes you through your helmet. From a nearby door- out burst a stick-armed alien species. It comes running- fluid draining out of its eyes as it attempts to attack you unarmed. You fire, blowing ones of its limbs off- shocked by the sudden splash of not blood- but water. It's as though its entire body is filled with the stuff- its blood diluted.

”What the- ARGH!”

The alien grabbed your guns out of your hands with an unnatural strength- you assumed none of the Consortium would be anywhere near as strong as a Jaxtian, or even an Esaal, but this one is working on some principle of pure rage. Your helmet is knocked loose in the scuffle, and when you finally get out your combat knife, the alien grabs your arm and pulls. Despite your armor giving you immunity to all small blades and gunfire- the sudden pull pops your shoulder from your socket. It hurts, and one of your limbs is now disabled.

Don't panic. Focus. Now is the time to focus.

With a deep breath, you regain composure. You can't let it disable another of your limbs- so you act.
>>
Grabbed by your disabled arm, you twist to drop your knife into your free hand, and then cut to make space. This creature doesn't bleed- you can't rely on a deep cut or arterial stab to finish it off. You'll need to destroy the brain. It's risky- but it may be the only way to get a deep enough stab in with your current limited strength and leverage...
>>
This was the fastest way to get to the brain. Your gamble that its skull structure would be weakest here was correct.
>>
You retrieve your blade, seeing the other Consortium crew mates nearby. They drop their weapons and flee before the mighty Jale Berax.

”...Idiots. This was the best time to attack me. At least the Esaal aren't cowards.”

Making your way towards the bridge of the ship, it's time to complete your mission.

This ship was a special target. It's not the strongest or most powerful ship in the Consortium fleet- but it is important. It was targeted for a special boarding mission because it is a communication ship, capable of beaming messages and transmissions both in hyperspace FTL as well as conventional means- and placing the hacker AI core on the primary computer terminal, you can let the Threemind do its thing. Direct access to the ship's systems will let it bypass the clumsy Consortium firewalls and self-destruct systems they use against your superior AI to prevent it from being able to just take over everything with ease.

You were chosen for this mission for your skills- and you did not intend to fail. You would never fail the Supreme Ruler. He picked you for this job. What was the reason for this very special mission?

>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)
>Hack to launch nuclear weapons at your own civilian outposts in the system as prelude to war (False-Flag Atrocity)
>>
>>5908362
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)
Don’t fuck with us, Intergalactic Community
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
We won't win jackshit if we just show them being beat. Let's get their battleship tech.
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
This seems like the most useful and will help both in the short and long terms.
Flexing could be interesting, but it might be a double edged sword.
False flags tend to do wonders if they work, but could be terrible if found out.
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
Pretty sure a false flag nuclear strike is the last thing we want. It would demand a total war against the Consortium which is the opposite of what we want, since they outnumber us and have a much larger industry. Both of these other options are neat though.
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
>>
>>5908343
>>5908345
>>5908349
What a weird, awesome concept for an alien race. I love it.

>>5908362
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)
Remember The Stand! Whenever you consider war on Jaxtians or the Hegemony, remember what happened at THE STAND!
>>
Must we go with the same cookie-cutter option again?
>>
>>5908383
What do you mean? What's wrong with stealing their tech?
>>
>>5908383
My favorite thing to do is put science heavy options that are complete shit because autists can't comprehend that le science isn't always the right choice.

Like they ACTUALLY think they're going to get battleships from this. lol. lmao.
>>
>>5908391
You're actively trolling your players?
>>
>>5908419
Just a bit o' banter mate. I'm feeling edgy after my last update so I wanted to break character a bit. I'll go back to being shut-in and nervously posting hoping somebody calls it "kino" in a minute.
>>
But transmit also doesn't help us since we could do that without hacking this space ship. We have our own comms ships. And we don't have the economic resources to win the war that would result from hitting ourselves with a nuke.
>>5908362
>Triangulate the locations of the worms who are part of the comms network and capture them for SCIENCE!
(to the other anons, not sure if this will work. The worms communicate through starsight and this appears to be non-starsight comms. None of the other options seem that valuable though, so when all else fails, Worms Delenda Est.
>>
>>5908362
>>5908376
Eh, changing to
>>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)
>>
>>5908362
>>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
>>
>>5908362
>>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
>>
>>5908362
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)

Eat shit nerds!

But why does the Consortium get all the super cool species... I want elephant rape spiders to team up with.
>>
>>5908349
One thing I really enjoy about you art is the really distinct coloration for all the species and the strong silhouette they all give. It gives the world a simple to understand yet strong colour scheme while avoiding the grey monotone many scifi settings have.
>>
>>5908362
>Hack to launch nuclear weapons at your own civilian outposts in the system as prelude to war (False-Flag Atrocity)
Total conquest
>>
>>5908362
>Hack to launch nuclear weapons at your own civilian outposts in the system as prelude to war (False-Flag Atrocity)

>>5908391
>>5908426
Nobody panics when things go according to plan, even if the plan is horrifying.
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)

This was just a 50% trigger. We haven't 'won' yet, there may more consortium ships on the way or some worm-trick they're still going to play on us before things end here.

Broadcasting victory is still premature, a nuclear false-strike against us is absolutely everything we don't want in one package. Info is the most valuable currency here, and it might even come with a side of research - the consortium's strengths over us are science and economy, so doubtless they have interesting things we haven't considered yet.
>>
>>5908362
>>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
I'm pretty sure they have figured out extra good logistic solutions as well as production strategy that could bolster our production
>>
>>5908602
..Wait, no. 'The Consortium is lying to everyone, including their own citizens' has been the common theme here. This allows us to address it.

Changing my vote to:
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)

We finally get a chance to swamp their civilian channels with truth and doom-mongering!
>>
>>5908616
Wait that's actually a great point.

>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)

Changing
>>5908518
>>
>>5908362
>>5908369
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)
I will also change my vote to this.
>>
>>5908470
If the corpse survive we can harvest its genetic code
>>
>>5908362
>Hack to launch nuclear weapons at your own civilian outposts in the system as prelude to war (False-Flag Atrocity)
>>
>>5908349
Literal Thirstbeast.
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony (Gains info + steals research)
>>
>>5908343
>Your home planet of Pos is an arid place. With only very few oceans, the planet has rapid swings of hot and cold temperatures, and the equator is uninhabitable due to the intense heat. Crossing it can only be done during the winter months, moving only at night. Living things on your planet live on the higher or lower latitude bands- this, along with the importance of remembering water holes and good grazing locations- is likely how your species gained its very long memory and intelligence.

>The other species of the Consortium don't understand your species relationship with water. You can't drink any liquids without care- your body isn't built for it- retaining and recycling its own moisture. From your desert homelands you would often go months or years without drinking from an open source of water- because there would be no fresh water at all. Only when the rains come, that is the only time when your body could ever get a drink.
Quest not not beating the 'Consortium is more interesting" allegations.
>>
>>5908362
>Download Consortium databanks to the Hegemony
May we have more Consortium lore dumps please?
>>
>>5908426
>break character
BQM you giving your players shit *is* your character.
>>
>>5908391
>put an option that says you'll 'steal research' after having an entire side mission about how the consortium was given battleship research
>'lol no you actually dont'
I see you follow the john wick school of "Just twist the plot so the players lose"
>>
>>5908362
>Transmit broadcast of the Consortium's defeat to all major factions in space (Esaal, Aristocrats, HVS, Consortium Civilians, etc.)
>>
>>5908871
The battleship was specified as a prototype, secret project AND making use of Esaal knowledge rather then the consortium's own. It's quite possible the technology isn't listed in the Consortium database at all simply because they never got it working.
>>
>>5908916
That's an extremely pedantic excuse. Why ELSE the option to steal research? There is no other research. We are superior to them in every other regard when it comes to technoloogy.
>>
>>5908917
They might have some technology specific to habitat customization and various augments to offset cross-species physical aptitudes and needs, as a result of their extremely heterogenous population nd their weird alien biologies. As proven by all our gene-stealing an Balaathi shipyards and Navigator, uh, navigators, that shit can be repurposed or adapted to be useful even for racist monkes.
>>
>>5908362
>Hack to launch nuclear weapons at your own civilian outposts in the system as prelude to war (False-Flag Atrocity)
>>
>>5908871
Stealing a single ship/computer and magically stealing an entire technology is lame, boring, and unrealistic.
>>
File: musashi.jpg (66 KB, 481x482)
66 KB
66 KB JPG
>>5909248
>give option that says 'steal technology'
>"wtf, people expect to steal technology????"
>>
>Be Banana
>Give player option that boils down in most reader eye to :
>Improve things
>Boast about a not-won-yet battle
>Nuke Fort Alamo for (((political gains))), despite us vowing to protect it

So yeah, I don't get your point there mate, maybe the thread is not entertaining enough for you as if?
>>
I mean the implication was that they're all equal in different ways. The "steal research" option was more about stealing tactical data like more targets, learning Consortium's maps and species information, etc. but it's pretty dishonest to assume you'd actually get all of Battleship technology from one choice when it's so coveted. I intentionally avoid adding a lot of sci-fi pet peeves in this quest and one of my pet peeves is stealing technology without the ability to replicate it yourself or industrialization to utilize it. What YOU don't get is, by allowing that, you basically undermine and make pointless the "science" focus as a potential playstyle since there is no ownership of the technology that you earn. This entire quest has been about letting players specc' out their civilization mostly the way they want, which is half the fun for me.
>>
>>5909261
The boasting could help improve our image (either in the sense of emphasizing how fierce and scary we are, or maybe even making us appear valorous and cool), which is what I'm hoping for. Maybe we can become to the universe as the Blondes became to the Hegemony under Akule: 'noble savages' who people grudgingly respect even though we're 'backwards'.
>>
File: file.png (243 KB, 439x427)
243 KB
243 KB PNG
>>5909266
>>
>>5909266
Also, what else did you expect? You specifically said STEAL RESEARCH. Not just data, RESEARCH. And the only technology we know that the Consortium has that we don't is Battleships. There literally isn't anything else besides maybe some useless compatibility shit that doesn't matter since their species don't live under us.

Like, seriously, WHAT were we supposed to expect from 'research'? You said RESEARCH.
>>
>>5909266
I didn't expect any battleship data to be honest, more like advanced logistics, useless capitalism, useful economics
>>
>>5909279
Good job capitalizing RESEARCH. It really made your point come across better.
>>
>>5909279
Devices that can enable a wide variety of disparate species to share one environment can probably be reverse-engineered to allow Jaxtians to survive in a wide variety of environments. Medicine and creature comforts designed for a whole host of alien races may imply some really efficient R&D processes for quickly and cost-effectively addressing novel medical and physiological concerns. I didn't even vote for the tech option, but it seems you're being a bit myopic about what it implies. "No battleships" doesn't mean "useless."
>>
>>5909285
All of those are extremely big assumptions. It has no actual basis in fact that it'd actually *be* useful for Jaxtians.
>>
>>5909291
Why would research only be battleships for the Jaxtians? Do you really think that is the only research that the Consortium has over us. It sounds like to me you blew your load all over the computer screen about the thought of battleships, and now you're throwing a tantrum that we're not getting it.
>>
>>5909300
> Do you really think that is the only research that the Consortium has over us.
That is the only research that they have been shown to have. 'Ummm, but like, they might have some heckin minor improvements that could theoretically be reverse-engineered' is a shitty redirection. If the 'research' was supposed to be something else, he should have shown the consortium's technological advantages.
>>
>>5909279
Research is the second option behind 'info' even within it's own choice.
>>
>>5909306
...How does that affect literally anything?
>>
>>5909308
It shows that you're hyperfixated on a single outcome to the extent that you're selectively reading to see what you want to see, to the exclusion of fine details and other possibilities.

Anyway, the QM clarified, so maybe you want to change your vote? Or don't. I'm not your real dad.

>Capha says D0 NAT
I guess 4chan wants you to stay the course, though.
>>
>>5909336
>It shows that you're hyperfixated on a single outcome to the extent that you're selectively reading to see what you want to see, to the exclusion of fine details and other possibilities.
Literally what are you smoking? Did we read the same option? Please tell me how it being 'info + research' instead of 'research + info' changes anything.
>>
File: GFGxFmCWkAAB96B.jpg (71 KB, 640x544)
71 KB
71 KB JPG
This "arguement" is dumb as fuck.
>>
>>5909339
Is any Space Monke argument not dumb as fuck?
>>
>>5909266
This is fair but the way you phrased it initially was very... "wine mom."

Then again so do like drama so... all according to kekkaku?
>>
>>5909266
>I mean the implication was that they're all equal in different ways
How was the false flag meant to be anything other than awful for us? You've stated multiple times that we don't win a drawn out war, and also a nuclear strike on the Hegemony would demand a response of total annihilation. The industrial capacity part was even part of the prelude to this very battle; they are able to field much more than us and more than we expected. It's utter suicide. I can kinda see how the other two might be somewhat equal but how on earth does this third option have any merit?
>>
>>5909444
Probably a morale and combat bonus as the blunkeys goes bananas, as it were.

>>5909337
It shows where the emphasis was: on acquiring a wide variety of information and technologies as opposed to seizing one specific project. It suggests there are multiple things to glean, not just one.
>>
>>5909463
>It shows where the emphasis was: on acquiring a wide variety of information and technologies as opposed to seizing one specific project.
Wow, that is a lot that you pulled out off your ass from the order in which words were made. And yet that still has nothing to do with being "hyperfixated" or have anything to do with the subject at hand.
>>
>>5909475
Have you moved on fro freaking out about the battleship?
>>
>>5909266
>This entire quest has been about letting players specc' out their civilization mostly the way they want, which is half the fun for me.
I feel like since the genocide we've lost sight of that. We haven't had a vote for the social character of the Hegemony in some time. Its been mostly tech options and stat options but not many votes on how the Hegemony is run in general (Hass's motives when he took over was one but the only other one this thread was his purpose, which wound up just being a statboost for the stand battle, and I can't remember much votes like this between Hass and Wrix
>>
>>5909266
BQM I think having "trap options" like this isn't fair unless its part of one of those puzzle votes where we can deduce the right answer based on lues you gave in the quest.
Also publically stating you made a trap option is going to leas to backlash, as you are seeing now.
>>
Currently indisposed. Please excuse the phoneposting and lack of formatting for a few days.

That's right, your secret mission was to use this ships private and public channels to transmit the evidence of this attack and the impending Hegemony victory over the Consortium. While the Hegemony has its own transmissions, using a Consortium ship bypasses the various firewalls and filters that prevent your messages from being sent all over this section of the galaxy. It will also make it completely impossible for the Consortium to lie about or hide the evidence of this battle, proving that you are capable of holding your own against these major powers in space.

Unfortunately with your boarding party being deceased, and no ability to extract yourself from the ship, you will likely die here. Thinking hard for a moment you decide on the best course of action.

"Threemind, can you control this ship's tractor beams before you blow it up?"
"Yes. Why?"

You are now Hass Takar again. And you just locked on to something. Flying away from the enemy fleet is one Jale Berax, flying through space. Without a spacesuit.

"Sire- Jale ordered the Threemind to blow up the communications ship. It did 2% damage to the enemy fleet in total... but I thought it was a suicide bombing." Maktana explains.

"Shit! He's our best agent. We have to pick him up- he won't last more then a few minutes holding his breath put there- no matter how special the life machine made him!"

"In order to do that, we'd have to break our Shield formation. There is no way the enemy can punch through it now with the damage they've taken. It will be a risk to fight them in open space, your grace."

>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale
Mans is Monke captain america
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
Victory is certain and Jale Berax is a hero.
>>
>>5909535
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
We will honor him evermore, but he's had a good run and been through a lot.
>>
>>5909535
Well, that's convenient. Remind me, what is our HP looking like again? If they're at 44 and we're at 56 as per >>5907369 we should save jale. Even if the consortium rolled 20 every turn, it would take 6 turns to beat us. And with our laser artillery, we'd beat them before that. It is LITERALLY impossible to lose if we're the ones above 50.

If that's the case,
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
>>
>>5909535
>>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
>>
>>5909535
>>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)

No, we cannot lose another jowly boy!
>>
>>5909535
>>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
>>
>>5907369
Can someone explain to me what the exploit is that players figured out? It has something to do with sheilds right?
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)

>>5909581
If we regen the shields every turn, we negate a large amount of their damage while simultaneously regaining hp (2% repair every turn) and dealing more damage than they can deal to us (with artillery). This equation only gets better as the battle gets longer since as their fleet strength goes down, their damage does too, but our side of the equation is entirely independent of our fleet strength so it remains the same, and eventually they don't even have enough damage to get through the shields at all.
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)

90% sure Bananas is going to throw a wrench in the mix of our exploit so this isn't so one-sided. But, eh, why not?
>>
I'm just banking on us getting lucky.
>>
>>5909612
It's in the option text my dude. We don't get to regen shields anymore. That was the exploit.
>>
>>5909547
The last 15 was needed to get the Consortium below 50 and trigger Jale. So I'm thinking that it's 61.8 Heg vs. 40.6 Consortium with it being the Consortium's turn to fire (naturally). They are only firing at 40% strength, so they do 8 damage max. With regen and arty still on I do not believe that it is possible for them to dunk us below 50%.
>>
>>5909663
Unless they have a secret weapon.
>>
regen in this case being the +2% per turn. Even without the +2%, with a free 13 hit a turn we can't 0 out and it's basically a question of whether we finish them off in 2 hits or 3. Three is much more likely than 2.
>>
Sure. Secret weapons change the math. I count beans and fill out spread sheets. There's no value in hypothesizing about the effect of hypothetical secret weapons in this spreadsheet. If there were a discreet set of options that the enemy could be packing and we could like, negate one of them, then what-ifs would possibly have value. Although I think that we'd still have the propensity to swing big dick energy until someone mathed things out. Because go big or get railed, right?
>>
>>5909535
>>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
Guys, we made a vow.
>>
>>5909687
You know who wouldn't give up Hegemonic victory for one cool dude? Anyone who passed that exam Kima failed.
>>
>>5909701
So, like, the guy we're playing as?
>>
>>5909704
The math adds up.
>>
>>5909716
Ok. I don't really trust the math or trust Bananas not to asspull. I'm fine with losing the vote, but I'm not gonna change it.
>>
>>5909704
Beautiful.
>>
>>5909717
I trust the Science!
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
Holding Jale hostage? Low blow for a bugfix

>>5909266
Uhhh- not to really jump into this, but I remember a salient most of our tech not really being Monke in origin. Most if not all of our major advancements came from Xenos, we didn’t really ‘earn’ it.

>>5909339
No Blue tint? And you call yourself a Monke…
>>
>>5909535
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
Every Monkey has his time to pass. What is one Monkey in a battle with the sacrifice of Thousands?

..Besides, I think Jale had a plan of his own.
>>
>>5909535
>Rescue Jale Berax (battle continues without rechargeable lattices)
>>
>>5909535
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
Martyrs are always needed in propaganda
>>
WAIT. The whole issue with keeping him alive is 'Jale can't hold his breath long enough', right?

Jale doesn't NEED to 'hold his breath'. Denoth Usspprrooo had a water-tight double sealed plastic jug he was lugging around, and Jale severed Denoth's trunk in the fight. Between the severed trunk and the reinforced plastic tank, I'm betting Jale's McGyvered himself an airtank that will last him FAR longer then 'holding his breath'.
>>
>>5909960
That would be the badass option, but in a bananas quest you need to work under the assumption of everything at the worst possible result.

HOWEVER, as long as bananas doesn't straight up cheat and heal the consortium's navy, we should be at a point where it is literally impossible for them to beat us.
>>
>>5909535
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
>>
>>5909535
>>5909606
Changing to
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)

I don't think Jale would set up the footage and then risk us losing the battle just to save his life. He probably has some kind of plan.
>>
>>5909606
Yeah this seems like an easy oversight to make. Game design is hard.
>>
>>5909687
We also are committed to defending our people. We are in a strong advantage we can afford the loss of shields.
>>
>>5910159
Like i said, that depends entirely on what bananas does. Now if we followed the rules he set before, our victory is assured no matter what. They don't have enough fleet power to be able to damage us before our artillery takes them out even if they roll a 20 every single turn.

But if bananas decides to change the rules or heal them, then we very well lose.
>>
“There's no way I'm leaving Jale to die out there- Ships! Give me an opening to pick him up. This frigate is fast enough for it.”

“Sire, they would have to break formation, our shield wall will be cast aside...”

“Do it. Order them to cover me. Threes, move this ship into position and get Jale inside now!”

At your command, the ship's pilot begins the task while your orders are transmitted all over the entire Hegemony fleet. The new formation is simulated and checked for efficacy, before the entire fleet adopts it and begins the push into the Consortium main line. Seizing the opportunity, the enemy ships begin to move in and gang up on the Hegemony cruisers despite your numbers advantage.

It only takes a few precious seconds to get to Jale, the ship turning in 3d space to swallow him up in an airlock, before your frigate pulls back into safety. At the same time, the Hegemony cruisers took the brunt of the enemy fire with their shields, pulling up to provide cover for your most vulnerable command craft.

With Jale safe and sound, the Hegemony's brave defenders can no longer hide behind the wall of energy-absorbing lattices and are forced to fight the enemy head on. At least, what remains of them...

“Jale, you moron! What were you doing jumping out of that ship into open space?! Without even a space suit?!”

“M-My liege! I told Threes to throw me with the enemy ship's tractor beam back towards our own fleet, and any of my squadmates if they survived and were thrown into space. I can survive a lot longer without oxygen then the average Jaxtian. I... also had a plan to use a makeshift atmospheric suit but... uhh... it didn't work.”
He looks a bit embarrassed. It seems he was injured during the boarding by an unknown alien threat aboard the Consortium ship. With only one arm and little preparation, there was no way he was going to jury rig up a way to survive in space. Cute idea, but you guess even old-generation Alphas aren't exactly known for being bright. Even if he could survive in space by just holding his breath with his modified and improved biology, all it would have taken was a nearby explosion or a single ship energy blast to strike him and he would be a goner. Even his battlesuit with its Azurium plating and absorption can't survive a ship-class weapon system- it was only designed with small arms in mind.

“Well... Glad to see you back, Jal-”

You are interrupted by the ship being rocked- a shockwave of microspace debris pushes you back. Your electronic systems flicker ominously for half a second.

“That's an Electromagnetic pulse, Fission weapons!” Maktana says in surprise.
>>
It seems the Consortium fleet, on the losing side and with nothing left to lose, have begun to fire off their nuclear arsenal at you in space.

“I am rewiring and hacking all incoming projectiles and keeping them away from the fleet. While a far cry from our ship's antimatter, these crude nuclear arms are disrupting some of my electronic systems.”

The Threeminds assurance about it trying its best to protect your fleet from the Consortium's last ditch attack is nice, but it's no guarantee. If they launch them in mass, at least a few will get through and do serious damage against your Crusiers, not to mention your smaller command vessel, which could be destroyed by one powerful blast. It's time to fight.

“This is it. Route the following message to the rest of the fleet. Men of the Hegemonic Fleet! Now is the time to prove our worth, to prove our fitness. Prove yourself to your family names and to your nation. We are superior to the capitalists, genetically, morally, culturally. In every way, we are their betters. Put them in their place. Prove the nobility of our blood. Honor or the Void!”

With a great battle cry, the Hegemony fleet moves in for the final battle.

>RULES
Your Energy-Lattices have been cast aside and can no longer be recharged. Both sides now simply roll on each turn. The same rules for damage and allocations apply as here >>5907175

Jale Berax used a self destructing ship to deal 2% damage to the Consortium fleet, as here >>5909535

If the Consortium rolls a 17, 18, 19, or 20 they will successfully hit your fleet with a Nuclear Bomb. This will deal 10% flat damage, not modified by their current Fleet Power.

Because you have came out of your defensive position to rescue Jale, you gave the initiative to the Consortium. They get the first turn regardless of who was next.

Because of the field of debris and your own reflectors now behind you, your Laser Artillery effectiveness is reduced by -5% (now 8% flat damage per turn)

The first side to drop below 1% total fleet power will be considered to have no more usable ships and will be considered defeated.

Hegemony Fleet Power- 61.8%
Consortium Fleet Power- 38.6%

>Roll (Consortium's Turn)
>>
>>5909535
>>5909540
>Let Jale die (sure victory in the battle)
Will also change to this.

>>5910161
>If Bananas has them healed we lose
>If he doesn't we win
This isn't going to cause controversy at all.
>>
>>5910293
Wait can we even be sure about the math? Can someone double check it I'm too smoothbrained to be trusted.
>>
Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>5910292
>>
Rolled 7 (1d20)

>>5910293
According to my quick calculations, even if they hit a crit nuclear bomb every turn, it'll take 6 turns. 8x5 is 40.

We can win this, 100%

>>5910292
Time to attack, Hegemony Roll
>>
Rolled 5 (1d20)

>The rules changed
Would you look at that.

Consortium roll.
>>
Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>5910319
Well, the nukes suck...but despite that, our victory by now is all but assured. The Consortium is already down to 26.

>>5910292
Hegemony roll, again.
>>
>>5910319
Its like in that episode of Cutthroat kitchen when they hastily added in an item swap sabatouge because one of the competiors purposefully took all the bread
>>
>>5910320
does each role have to be a differtn id?
>>
>>5910321
Kek.
>>
File: file.png (914 KB, 1080x717)
914 KB
914 KB PNG
>>5910320
Yep...they're down 11. We've already won. They can't do enough damage before our artillery finishes them off, even with nuclear attacks. Roll for the consortium's last pitiful attack, let's see how many they can take out before they die.
>>
Rolled 17 (1d20)

>>5910318
Nice. Though there's still an element of chance here.

>>5910292
I'll roll for the Consortium's attack.
>>
Rolled 12 (1d20)

>>5910346
damn, you just had to roll a nuke, now we're gonna have to go full total war on their asses.

well, it doesn't matter. even with that, they can't win; we're just reduced to about. close to 50.

>>5910292
let's see if we can finish this now.
>>
>>5910350
Yep, we've won. At least, i am 99.99% sure we've won. That should reduce them to below 1%, according to my calculations. They were on 11~, we were at 58 ~, with the healing and so i think we're around 50, but even if we were reduced to 40% we would have been able to win.

Someone need to check, but i don't think we need to roll.any more than this. But still, doesn't this mean we're gonna have to don the unspeakable mask? Or does that not count if it's against a military target? It will REALLY suck if we are forced to go on a total war against the consortium.
>>
>>5909248
Is that not what just china does and Japan and african people.
But also called reading the instructions
>>
Rolled 8 (1d20)

>>5910292
The package has been delivered.
>>
>>5910366
bitch what did i say, we already won
>>
Do you feel satisfied by your victory?
>>
>>5910390
No, because we got nuked, and now it's going to cause a giant mess. I hope the Jale groupies are happy.
>>
>>5910395
>Starts shit and blames other players for non-real problem
>Didn't even read the last mainline thread
>>
>>5910411
>Takes 50 billion years between each thread
>Expects players to remember literally anything that happened
>>
>>5910390
I mean, we won, the only issue is the nuke. Which by the way, was a very retarded move on the Consortium's part. Why would you pull out the 'escalate shit' at the last moment when you barely have any chance of winning? Not only are you escalating the war, you're doing it without even taking out your enemy. If they had nukes, logic tells they should have used them when they got down to half their fleet size (100), not when they were at Death's Door.


>>5910395
How would this have been any different? Even if we didn't save him, they'd still have used the nukes. Whether they hit the nets or not, we'd still have been attacked by nukes.
>>
>>5910417
Nukes hitting nets is just a nuke fragmentation blast instead of the possibility of missing
>>
>>5910419
It's still getting attacked by nukes. If our fleet getting hit by nukes counts for being forced into an idiotic mask moment, then that would count too. It's not just 'Jaxtians cant get killed by nukes', it's 'No nukes getting used against the sovereignty at all'
>>
I'm sorry bros I shouldn't of rolled the funny nuke.

>>5910411
The part about how the situation is different from what happened when we got nuked before and the advice of the ex-Supreme?
>>
>>5910390
Not really. The exploit once figured out took care of most of the work, and since the entire chapter was building to it it felt anti climatic.
I will say i loved how you started the fight with all these various votes we have made adding up to our starting stats, that was really cool.
But the exploit kinda sullied the whole thing because it turned it into a free win. But that was an honest mistake. Game design is hard.
>>
>They didn't get the point of "spirit of the law versus the letter of the law"
>The deep, thematic, enlightening philosophy was not absorbed
>>
>>5910432
The Hegemony is an completely and utterly arbitrary despotate whose defintiions of what is what are about as consistent as the wind. Everyone has their own definition of what is what. Hass is not Bantam. Hass did not speak with Cijan. There is nothing saying Hass won't think "ah yes, this counts as breaking the code"
>>
>>5910437
That's true, Hass never heard it. But You did.
>>
>>5910443
Yes, and we are not Hass. It has been made very clear, dozens of times over this quest, that Supremes will every now and then act despite of whatever we said.

Hass didn't have that talk with Cijan, so there's nothing to say he wouldn't go into automatic mode and put on the mask regardless of what we believed.
>>
>>5910447
> so there's nothing to say he wouldn't go into automatic mode and put on the mask regardless of what we believed.
Well besides the fact that Bananas is clearly alluding that since We heard the philosophy, we can decide not to enter a total war in retaliation.
>>
>>5910457
Obviously now it's not an issue, but without him saying that, we wouldn't have known.
>>
>>5910460
What are we even talking about now? The Hegemony's nuke taboo?
>>
>>5910432
A difference between the spirit and letter of the law isn't exactly a super novel concept. With due respect, I'm not sure it counts as "deep, thematic, enlightening philosophy." If you keep trying to insert your own beliefs into the quest as revealed truths, you're going to keep getting your heart broken.

I'm glad we're not going full mask auto-mode, though.
>>
Alright, I call to a stop.
Players, let's not bully Banana which provide top entertainment.
Bananas, I beg you to leave it there before it degenerates into a storm
>>
>>5910551
a bit too late for that mate

the argument is over
>>
>>5910551
Banana loves the shit flinging, in fact I suspect he incited a few himself.
>>
>>5910582
>shit flinging
>monke quest
In all honesty BQM seems like they're kidding on the square, a bit miffed some stuff went over players head but still joking about it.
>>
>>5910390
Well, I enjoyed it. And the whole Galaxy got to see the Consortium being ineffectual then resorting to nukes and not even having them do much. I imagine that's a major humiliation at large, and now the consortium at the last moment gave us legitimate grievance to take something from them just when they look their weakest internationally.
>>
>>5910390
Not really, these "gamey" elements in quests are always handled by a small group of people while the rest just wait for it to end.
>>
>>5910390
No. It was too easy.
>>
>>5910437
I mean, Cijan's still around, isn't he? He could probably speak to Hass and tell him right now.
>>
Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>5910292
>Fire the last shot, for completeness.
>>
The final breakdown, for those who care
>>
>>5910942
.we won without even going below 52
truly, a total victory for the hegemony.
>>
bottomed out at 48.7 after the nuke.
>>
>>5910859
I feel like it kind of needs to be easy or the general player base won't be able to do it, unless it's a puzzle or something
>>
>>5909535
I'm liking the new angles and perspectives you're playing with here, your art is growing in subtle but important ways.
>>
The Hegemony fleet remains standing as the final Consortium ship is blasted apart or disabled. You stand over a silent field of debris, your AI doing a final checksum to see what remains of the enemy's projected strength.

“Is it over?” You ask Threes.

“No active enemy ships remain, my liege.”

Of course, the full impact of what has happened here hasn't quite dawned or been fully realized yet- but it is a significant milestone. You snap your fingers, telling your ship crews and AI to look out for any extra dangers. After all, the Consortium is full of tricks. You keep your artillery primed and your defenses ready for a few minutes longer- any remaining survivors will be recovered or captured if they be of the enemy. You keep expecting another phantom fleet, another new bomb or weapon- but nothing happens. It actually is over!

The Consortium fleet has been DEFEATED. Despite this best effort of dislodging you from your defense at The Stand- they failed. All of their industrial might and advantage was scattered by your bravery, your cleverness, and your intelligence. The capitalists have failed- and you have kept your vow. While no special advantage is granted, the promise you made to the Jaxtian people is now fulfilled. You can rest a little easier knowing your legacy will not be tarnished by breaking a sacred promise to your people.

“I may have killed you Bantam... but at the very least, I finished what you started.”
>>
You are now MAKTANA NANONAE III. You are within the command ship with your Supreme Ruler and Jale Berax, the special commando. The great sense of tension has finally melted as Hass and Jale begin to celebrate.

“Wooh! Half a decade caring about this stupid rock! It's over! Haha!”

“Way to go, your Majesty!”

“No Jale, you took out multiple ships by yourself. Plus that transmitter you hacked will pay back dividends, I am sure.”

“I wish Yino was here. He could sing us a blonde victory ballad, har har!”

You relax a bit as the two non-indigos dance and sing in victory. You're a little more prim and proper, but you can't help but smile. It truly is over. Perhaps you can finally get back to working on your biotechnology and breeding program, much more interesting to you then the arms-race...

Just then, you see it. Something flickering in the corner of the room. It grows from a light disturbance to a transparent image, almost like a prototype hologram. Somehow, the AI cannot see it. That's when you realize this is no ordinary visual phenomena- this is something to do with Starsight. It's a worm, crouching in the corner, appearing as thru teleportation. In its hand, it clutches an Azurium spike. Oh no! How could it even appear with one of those?!

Because the war had ESCALATED due to the Hegemony's bombing of the secret battleship project, it appears the Consortium and the worms have decided to put out one last ditch effort to assassinate the Supreme Ruler.

The Azurium spike it carries will push right through flesh and Hass's protective robes. Jale would fare better, but he is injured and his armor would also be pierced. You only have a few seconds to react while the other two are oblivious. You have to do something, now!

>Jump in the way (Maktana III dies)
>Yell for Jale (Jale dies)
>Hesitate (Hass dies)
>Wrestle for the spike (Chance for multiple characters to die)
>Other (Write-In)
>>
>>5911178
>>Other: Order Threemind to increase ultraviolet light in the room by 10,000%, screens have long been capable of enough to stun the Worms.
>>
>>5911178
>>Other: Order Threemind to increase ultraviolet light in the room by 10,000%, screens have long been capable of enough to stun the Worms.
and
>Jump in the way (Maktana III dies)
>>
>>5911178
>Yell for Jale (Jale dies)

Well
>>
>>5911190
+1

And barring that...
>Hesitate (Hass dies)

He'll die a hero and a martyr. Pretty good way to go.
>>
>>5911178
>>5911197
+1
>>
>>5911190
>>5911197
I don't think we can yell that fast enough to save the Supreme.

>>5911178
>Jump in the way (Maktana III dies)
>>
>>5911178
It would be really out of character for Maktana to wrestle the spike away and then stab Hass to technically become Supreme.

I want Maktana to be Supreme though.

Does anyone have any in-character write-ins that could lead to a Supreme Maktana?
>>
>>5911215
Dude, it literally says there in OOC text that the yell option will result in Jale dying, with the fourth option's existence directly implies that it will *only* result in Jale dying. If it was a secret trap option, everyone would get incredibly mad and start yelling at Bananas, and rightfully so. Just imagine that Maktana III is super-eugenicized and can yell faster than a human would.
>>
File: 1706560437327.gif (2.14 MB, 296x296)
2.14 MB
2.14 MB GIF
>>5911178
>Other(Write-in)
>"Threes, Worm lights Go!"
This is a known weakness and something Threes has the ability to deal with easily and with far faster results as a master of Jaxtian psychology and body language threes wouldve noticed Maktana IIIs realization picosends after he did
>>
BQM for people that tend to move around a lot would a an ID hash like QMs use be an appropriate way to validate that you arent a 1 id poster?
>>
>>5911178
>Wrestle for the spike (Chance for multiple characters to die)
Oh baby, look at that! You sure know how to deliver an update, Bananas.
>>
>>5911225
I'm sticking with my vote. I've come to like Hass and don't want to risk it.
>>
>>5911178
>>5911190
>support

Azurium is affected by electromagnetism, hence the shipyards, but we don't know how it affects starsight transported metal. Seeing Azurium used this way implies that we should try to use Azurium in starsight research though.

Hass can dodge. He's young and dodgy. Roll Monke, roll. "Lord danger Front-roll (I assume that our militarized society has a short word for someone's trying to assassinate the Supreme), Threes UV lights, anti-worm protocol. Get up off the floor so the Worm can't infiltrate through your shadows. Threes, look through my neural link and encase the worm I see in an magneto-field. Run a full spectrum search on that area for signs of the Worm".
>>
I am, of course, assuming that Maktana isn't just hallucinating.
>>
>>5911190
>>Other: Order Threemind to increase ultraviolet light in the room by 10,000%, screens have long been capable of enough to stun the Worms.
>>
>>5911178
>>Other: Order Threemind to increase ultraviolet light in the room by 10,000%, screens have long been capable of enough to stun the Worms.

> intelligent write ins using knowledge accumulated by paying attention to the story.

You love to see it.
>>
If you get the other solution, I'll give you a bonus.
>>
>>5911314
It's a metal spike? Can't we just turn on some big ass magnets to pull the guy away?
>>
>>5911322
That would probably grab Jale and crush him, too.
>>
>>5911178
>MAKTANA NANONAE III uses his electromagnetic powers gotten from radical Baalathi gene-therapy by his father

Cmon guys it's obvious
>>
>>5911367
pog
>>
>>5911367

>The third and final choice is the clone/son of Maktana II, Maktana Nanaone III. While he is an identical clone of Maktana II, he has been enhanced with a very special geneome treatment which gives him innate abilities over magnetism; taken from the alien Baalathi genome, if you can even call what the gas-bags have to be genetics.

Quote about it in case anyone needs a reminder
>>
Ehh. I gave you a bunch of hints. Doesn't really count.
>>
>>5911370
>>5911367
Now THAT is a write-in I can back. I forgot he was Monke Magneto!

>>5911178
Changing my vote from >>5911215
>>
>>5911367
+1
>>
>>5911373
No hints given since you said it would grant us a bonus, though.
>>
>>5911373
You gave zero hints between the time that you said guessing the 2nd solution would give a bonus and the time that the second solution was guessed. Don't be an ass, Bananas.

>>5911380
Literally this, I just typed slower.
>>
>>5911373
I remembered the magneto powers as soon as I opened the thread you filthy greenface.
>>
>>5911367
+1 Supporting this
>>
>>5911178
>>5911367
+1
based lmao
>>
>>5911373
I also have a question, what have the Baalathi on Max been up to?
>>
>>5911373
Indian giver :P
>>
>>5911367
Supporting
>>
>>5911367
+1
>>
>>5911367
+1

>>5911373
Boooo
>>
>>5911373
>"Hey guys, if you get the other solution you get a bonus"
>Anon finds the other solution within 3 posts
>"Actually, it doesn't count because I gave a bunch of hints"
??????
>>
>>5911214
switching to >>5911367
>>
>>5911178
>>5911367
support
>>
>>5911367
+1
>>
>>
>>5911681
They look like dongs.
>>
>>5911764
Only one of them looks like dongs to me, and it's the one in the middle.
>>
>>5911681
If they hadn't been coloured that shade in the picture with Bantam, I'd have assumed Hass had had them redone to match his robes. But the foliage colour suits them.

>>5911764
Nah, they're too green. Jaxtian dongs are Blue.
>>
>>5911778
The one in the middle's intended to look like the Hegemonic emblem on the approach, I think.
>>
>>5911681
>too green
Someone in R&D REALLY misses the Vetuckers.
>>
>>5911789
yes, which from the side makes it look a bit phallic.
>>
>>5911794
Perfect, given the phallocratic tendencies of the Hegemony. RAPIST DOMINATOR etc.
>>
>>5911681
Why are they so small
>>
>>5911373
OOOK OOOK OOOK OOOK! AHHHH AHHHH AHHH AHHH!
>>
File: monkey wants fairness.png (190 KB, 344x624)
190 KB
190 KB PNG
>>5911886
>>
>>5911178
>Other: Order Threemind to increase ultraviolet light in the room by 10,000%, screens have long been capable of enough to stun the Worms.
>Stab the Worm with his own Azurium spike Magnito-style
If all else fails
>Hesitate (Hass dies)
Ultimately he’s the most useless one of the bunch.
>>
>>5911793
All Hegemony Ships are green due to use of a zinc-alloy in their construction ever since we found the motherload of zinc upon Nan-1a
>>
>>5912481
They've also all gotten much darker since "the event".
>>
>>5911681
>Penis ships
What is wrong with bananas?
>>
The worm fully appears from “nothing” right in front of your eyes and, thinking fast, you call out not to one of your fellow Jaxtians, but to the computer.

“Threes! Worm! Light!”

Immediately, as the creature takes its first step towards Hass Takar's unprotected back, the ship's cabin flashes a bright light reminiscent of the morning, stunning the creature for a second. But it's still dangerous with its weapon- and would be too dangerous to apprehend alive. Unless...

Reaching out your hand, you concentrate and align the electricity in your nerves to your outstretched fingers, making an invisible connection. Other Jaxtian brains aren't wired like yours, your insulated myelin protects you from an internal electrical shock coursing through your body. With some kind of unnatural, gene-borne instinct you motion and the Azurium spike flies is pulled roughly from the beast's grip into your hand.

“Wait! Don't kill it.” You yell to the computer. “Lower light intensity! We can capture this alive.”

Jale, without being spoken to, approaches and grabs the creature with his good arm, giving it a few slams against the floor of the space craft for good measure.

“Don't worry, I have experience with these things.” The Alpha says. “It doesn't have a brain in its head. That means, we can do lots of fun experiments.”

“And he haven't had a live one in quite a long time.” You add, with a slightly sadistic smile.

“Grrggh... this one made a bad choice..” The worm grumbles to itself. “But you cannot kill me in any way that matters.”

“...We'll make you wish we could. Take it away!” Hass finally speaks, overcoming the shock and surprise. He turns to you, speechless.

“Maktana III... you saved my life. Thank you.”

Because of your quick thinking, you have not only saved the lives of the Supreme Ruler and your compatriots, but have also captured a live worm for experimentation and further gene-research. Your powers and using UV light to overcome the assassination attempt was the BEST POSSIBLE decision you could have chosen, thus leading to this outcome. While you were not one of the brave men in the spaceships fighting the Consortium, on this day you too are a hero.
>>
“Maktana, I simply must reward you.” Hass declares. “What is your wish? It will be granted.”

“My lord... I do not ask for anything special. It is my duty.”

“Oh Gnara-shit. We both know that isn't true. What do you REALLY want? Anyone annoying you at work? I'll have them demoted. Any artists not make any sequels to your favorite interactives? I'll make them work on them some more. Anything!”

“...If I may make one request. I feel like a trilobite- a clone of a clone of someone born hundreds of years ago. I see myself aging in my father's face. Perhaps my “genius” is valuable enough to keep remaking over and over, but I do not wish for this to continue any longer. I want to settle down and have a normal family. Is that acceptable, my lord?”

“Oh. Of course, carry on as you will, Maktana.”

You are now HASS TAKAR the SUPREME RULER OF THE HEGEMONY once again. And it is a shame to see the genius of the Maktanas' go the way of all mortals. After all, all of your species Gene-Enhancements were the result of their hard work. Still, it was his request, and it would be wrong to ignore it. Regardless, the final Maktana has a long career still ahead of him, and it may be time to get some fresh blood into the Hegemony's scientific elite.

With your victory at THE STAND, you have ensured the continued supply of AZURIUM from the planet to the rest of the empire, especially to the GREAT CITY OF MYYM located on the old planet of Swallia. This will allow construction to continue unimpeded. While the supply of Azurium isn't enough to start any new large scale projects with it- the budget increases and economic impact will be felt throughout the entire Hegemony.

On top of this, there is a great surge of triumph that spread through the entire Hegemony. The news of your victory has invigorated all of the Jaxtian race, with the upcoming Victory Day celebrations being especially festive this year. The fallen are honored and the victorious are praised, as your imperial manifest-destiny is the cause for the holiday. Many praise you by name during this day, and Azurium has been held up as the unofficial mascot of the holiday- some even renaming the metal to Standium or even Hassium, but you think these will fade with the decades as the memory draws farther away. With the Hegemony's economic engine still in repair and recovery mode and cannot yet be redistributed to other sectors of the empire- it is still a time of great happiness and prosperity throughout the empire. At least for now, you can rest easy.
>>
The Consortium put up a decent fight, at least for a bunch of spineless capitalists. While it is true they were never any match for the Hegemony, they still pulled out a few tricks and managed to do some decent damage, though you still won the day.

Because you defeated the THIRD AND FINAL WAVE, the Consortium have no choice but to GIVE UP THE STAND for good. Not only does this mean that your mining outpost is safe and rightfully now known to be owned by the Hegemony, but more importantly, it shows you cannot simply be bullied into submission. The cost of their defeat is too great, both in terms of resources and reputation, to do anything but accept a defeat at the hands of the Hegemony. Not only have you won the mining outpost, but you have also now gained more STATUS among the neighboring great powers in space.

Proving you can protect yourself from the Consortium has proven to all the great powers that you are a MAJOR PLAYER in your region of the Galaxy. What this means is, despite their best efforts, the Worms BLACKLISTING of your nation and people are now finally over. The Esaal outposts once dealing exclusively with pirates and traders now have open requests for small-scale defense contracts and weapon testing buddies. The Galactic Society of Aristocrats have opened their palace doors and galaxy-renowned theaters for visiting by your own aristocracy, should they have transport and class enough for the dress codes. Even the Consortium's own culture, despite being against the interests of its ruling class, have begun to see the Hegemony as an independent and sovereign state with its own unique culture and economic potential.

The Consortium still exists of course, they will pick themselves up and dust themselves off in due time, and will likely be able to rebuild the shattered fleet in a matter of decades. However, they won't be able to FORGET THIS LOSS easily. Damage control and excuses for the Consortium's council government inability to procure the Stand for its high-status mining corporations have put a permanent damper on the trust and eagerness to engage with its military fleet, while also setting back their economic engine by a considerable amount. They know they now will not be able to keep up with your own military and the gulf between your technologies and fleets will only widen. At the same time, your own spies still being active within their borders while you have successfully countered all of their own espionage means the cats have been DEFANGED and will NO LONGER attempt high-aggression spy missions or expansion attacks against the HEGEMONY.

ONE RIVAL NATION HUMBLED
>>
-YEAR 72 OF THE RESURRECTION ERA-

Taking the advice of the THREEMIND, you have spoken to some of the wisest and most elder members of the Hegemony, despite their youthful looks and nature. You think you're just about starting to get older then Cijan, but only barely.

When the battle first ended, you did feel a great sense of relief, but also stress in regards to the nuclear strike against your own people, plus, the future of the Hegemony and your own reign. You never had much thought on long term planning during your reign, only moving from pleasure to pleasure and then correcting those setbacks in a scramble to protect The Stand. The Threemind told you not to worry about further escalation, as Cijan explained very well.

“...The time and era where a law is rewritten determines its meaning, but not the philosophy behind it. Our nation is scarce of philosophers, so its laws will be run by either barbarism or legalism.”

“Do you think I be one of those two?”

“Not anymore, your Majesty.”

Your conversation continues with the wise ex-Supreme. You find yourself humbled somewhat by his intelligence and experience. Due to your many experiences now with Jale Berax, another improved and enhanced member of your species who had used the Life-Machine, you realize that it was not the machine that made him so insightful.
>>
“...Earlier in my reign, when I realized my folly, I confided in the Threemind network, who roleplayed as my distant ancestor, Talacent. But while speaking to this... hologram, I decided then and there what I wanted to do with my reign, which was Defend my People. This universe is a dangerous place. But looking back through our history... I can't seem to see us ever being at serious risk of annihilation. It is more as though we are driven by pragmatic self interest.”

“One could argue that pragmatic self interest is indeed a defense mechanism. Securing resources for oneself and ones progeny is necessary for survival, as those resources are coveted by your enemies, who will use them to destroy you if you do not secure them yourself.”

“I understand our philosophy, Cijan Anak, but I do not necessarily think it is true. The Hegemony is a collection of Jaxtians and only Jaxtians, yes, but each one is an individual. What determines who is “one of us”? Is simply being a Jaxtian enough? The loyalists, in deed or spirit? What of the clones or future-Jaxtians who will have so little in common with us we may as well not even be the same species? What about our machines, who could outlast us all when the final stars burn out from the sky, programmed with our drive and purpose?”

“That's so far away, Lord Hass. I think you're getting too philosophical yourself.”

“I tell you this only because you were once a Supreme Ruler yourself- multiple times I have been tempted and had the opportunity to sacrifice my own citizens for our own ends. I'm certainly not protecting them if I did that, but I sent soldiers to die as well, and they did so gladly.”

“They died protecting their people too, my lord.”

“Then WHO are the people? Those of noble blood? Can't be that, I proved it not so. Or is it only onself,, myself, who is worth of preservation? Does the scrapping away of purity ever end? But it cannot be just anyone, not just any sentient creature either. Talacent learned that mistake himself, sometimes, you have to reject those who would masquerade as your allies for their own gain. The body spends immense resources to nourish its own cells, and yet some of those cells are cancerous. Who, exactly, am I supposed to be protecting?”

“To be honest, my Lord Takar, throughout the course of my life I had often had a similar thought, back when the Hegemony had multiple intelligent species living under its banner. But in the end, no great matter of scholastic thought or philosophy can truly answer it. Your own analogy of the body works best. Remove the cells that are cancerous, but keep the healthy tissues. In other words, protect your friends and kill your enemies. No other answer can suffice.”

>Quest continues tomorrow, stay tuned!
>>
>>5912896
Interesting, now we might actually be able to interact with other species in terms other than genocide.

>>5912893
I've got a question though, who exactly is suposed to be what here? The Hegemony and Esaal are obvious, but if the orange is the Hazaar State, then where the hell is the stand?
>>
>>5912891
A shame about Maktana, but it is understandable to want to retire.
>>
>>5912896
Poggers
>>
>>5912901
The white one's the Consortium - so perhaps somewhere to the 'south' of the HVS?
>>
>>5912896
>The Hegemony is a collection of Jaxtians and only Jaxtians

Question, were the Migrators removed as citizens during the Wrix reign? Cause technically the Hegemony is still a multi-species empire.
>>
>>5912901
>Interesting, now we might actually be able to interact with other species in terms other than genocide.
Time to reabsorb the HVS! Reconquista 2: Electric Boogaloo!

>>5912896
Thanks for running, QM!
>>
>>5913050
I don't think they even had 'citizenship' (not even in the loose sense any Jaxtian has it). They're more like a useful animal, legally and practically. Like the Baalathi.
>>
>>5913071
We actually voted to grant them citizenship in one of the very first threads, they are below Jaxtians of course but still full fledged citizens.
>>
>>5912891
can always clone him again just because he settled down does not mean it has to end just the clone is not raised as his or joins as a brother
>>
>>5913137
the cloneline can continue independent of the original and continue the research
>>
>>5913113
I think Wrix declared them livestock
>>
>>5913113
Well, a lot has changed since then...

>>5913137
We can even wait until he dies if we want to keep him happy, then just clone a new one and never tell him about the deal.
>>
>>5913137
>>5913171
Wasn't the entire point that we granted him that specific wish? We've already been using Maktana since forever anyway. Let's get someone else for once.
>>
>>5913179
Maktana is not a person but a concept. Every head scientist is henceforth named Maktana even if they do not share the same genes.
>>
>>5913179
He's a clone. He can go fuck himself.
>>
>>5913179
>granting his wish of starting a family of his own and being allowed to settle down that is
his exact words are
"want to settle down and have a normal family. Is that acceptable, my lord?”
he does not really want to continue doing it and raise a clone of himself.
but also i think he will eventually see his own face in his own eventually also
>>
>>5913209
>wants to start a family
>gets permission from the Supreme
>finally.exe
>goes to the fem!Maktana he cloned and raised since he became Overseer
>fucks himself
>profit
>>
>>5913179
As long as he THINKS his wish was granted, and gets his non-clone family, we've granted the wish from his limited perspective. that's all that matters.
>>
>>5913286
Given that the first Maktana's work ruined his romance attempt and the second never even really tried and just went right for a clone, it's interesting that we're finally getting one who's going to continue the family line in the traditional way.

>>5913137
Eh, even if we do clone another Maktana eventually there's no need to rush a new one out. Wait until this one passes, hopefully after a long and happy life. Then we can decide.
>>
>>5913298
>>
File: 1657432784026.png (172 KB, 388x274)
172 KB
172 KB PNG
>>5913298
>>
>>5913466
so thats why you gave him lightning powers. Lmao nice one.
>>
“...No, my Lord, I don't think we need to spend more money and training hours on elite infantry and boarding. Case by case basis. They're best used for securing important targets, not to brag, but that's exactly why I've been chosen so many times. Your decisions during the Stand conflict to invest in information, artillery, and shielding were probably the most optimal. In case of a large scale invasion force, we already have enough basic soldiers for that kind of work, which is much different then the sort of surgical precision me and the Redstripe elites are known for.”

You've been meeting with various high level and heads of states and departments. You've just finished up a military talk with Jale Berax. You quite enjoy his lectures, though his area of expertise is obviously much more tactical then strategic.

“Thank you for the feedback, Jale. By the way, how's your shoulder?”

“Oh, funny. I actually forgot to go to the doctor and have it set back in, but that night after taking a well deserved nap it seemed to pop back in on its own. Just a little stiff the day later.”

“Must be nice, being an immortal Life-Machine spawn, huh? I bet you love rubbing it in the face of the rest of us, even to your rightful ruler.”

“Gulp... Not trying to brag, my Lord!”

With your talks with Jale finished, your administration transitioning to peacetime matters and deescalation of the military continue slowly. It is costly to retrain so many men and reprogram so many computers away from targetting to exploration and science, but it must be done. Your economic engine can chug forward full steam ahead now, but soon you'll need to find a new major project to focus on once the great city of Myym is completed.

Then, out of the blue, the Threemind gives you a notice of an important head of state wishing to speak with you about the HVS and the political situation.

“Oh great. It's in a state of revolt, isn't it?”

“No, Supreme One. This is more of a forward thinking proposal, though some military action will be required either way. All checked out, and the individual is very closely tied to the HVS and its formation. I think you should give his proposal serious consideration.” The AI says, before your meeting is arranged.
>>
High ranking head of state who is intimately tied with the HVS? You were confused at first, until you saw him in person for your meeting. WRIX VAL, previous Supreme Ruler, and also an UNSPEAKABLE. To be honest, you drew in your breath when you saw him. It would be a shame to admit it publicly, but if he came around the corner wearing the Death-Mask you felt as though you would kneel to him and do whatever he said. You never had the full Supreme Ruler training, the part about self control and mental strength, as well as resistance to the Death-Mask. But seeing him now, he's so old, so feeble. The larger then life infamous figure has been humbled by time.

“Hello, Master Takar. I am very thankful for you to hear me out. I have something very important I wish to discuss, and I do not have much time left.”

“What is it, Wrix?”

“It's about the HVS, and your future plans. You see, when I was the Supreme Ruler, I created the HVS by allowing the rebels to integrate in with the Hazaar and create their own state. It was the release valve for the disobedience in the Hegemony at the time. But now, a perfect opportunity arises. This is the perfect time to INVADE THE HVS and REMOVE THE HAZAAR forever.”

You are taken aback by his comments. You had not thought of that, especially coming down from a war. But as your AI said, you hear him out.

“You see, Master Takar, this is the perfect time to deal with the HVS once and for all. The Hegemony is only now becoming a “true” power in our sector of the galaxy. This is a bit of a lie, of course, we were always greater then our size would suggest, but it has only become apparent to our alien rivals now at our true strength. Because of this, the borders on the map are soon being drawn, and anything that happens now until the formation of set lines and alliances has a tendency to be glossed over in the long spectrum of history.”

“Interesting theory, Wrix, but we have more attention on us then ever before...”

“This is true! But the fog of war with the Consortium is still not yet lifted. Even now the various nations in space are only now figuring out who truly won the war at the Stand, the shifting political power dynamics, and our own national being. I am a blonde, as you know, and Mainlanders once too considered blondes a single group. But blonde tribes were exterminating each other since the dawn of time. But do you think the Mainlanders thought of that? No, they would just say, “oh, those are blondes”, when in reality it was many tribes. The HVS has many superficial similarities to the Hegemony's core; we shared many of the same alien species, the same ships, the same AI networks, the same currency... They were the border state meant to make us appear smaller and unimportant. Now, they will form into a PERMANENT state as the borders in space solidify and the galactic community shrinks and becomes more intimate. This is the perfect opportunity to seize it for ourselves.”
>>
“We have just finished a war, Wrix. It would be quite an undertaking...”

“Do you actually think the Hazaar can stand up to us?! Please, your majesty, forgive me, but that is foolish. The Hazaar are getting ravaged by insignificant pirates and criminals, who were could easily defeat with a concentrated effort. Besides, the Hegemony's war machine is still hot and many of its resources have been spent already. It would be much better for our soldiers to die now while they're fresh and ready to be expended then wait and train new ones, wouldn't you agree?”

Wrix's speech seems to get more intense the longer he goes on, he almost seems passionate. What he says is cruel, the type of pragmatism only seen in the mind of an UNSPEAKABLE, but unarguable from a mathematical and resource-maximizing viewpoint.

“...I can see the value in invading the HVS when they're vulnerable and easy prey, especially if they have outlived their usefulness as a proxy state. But surely, there must be another reason you are so adamant about this.”

“Ahh. That is correct. It is my own failure and shame, truly. I wasn't strong enough. I picked Bantam as my successor, he was an Alpha, and strong. But you proved even more ruthless then him. ~It is a great burden, a father leaves his son, his enemies and his debts, and all his work undone.”

“The Hazaar...”

“Exterminate them. Kill them. Defile their corpses. Burn their villages and all their belongings. Spit in the face of their history. Revel in their destruction. I have spent years of my life and used my privilege as ex-Supreme to hunt down and interrogate many of the prominent figures of the rebellion, the Economist factions and high ranking Hazaar, but this was only a tiny sample of what needs to be done. The filthy bugs have been breeding like mad over there- over a hundred billion of them now, and counting. It makes me SICK.”

“What would the purpose of that be, Wrix? My focus is on protecting the Jaxtian people. How could I ever...”
>>
“The MASK you fool, the MASK! It is yours, only the Supreme Ruler can wear it. It proved too heavy a burden for me. I let our enemies escape their righteous damnation. But you, YOU can! The Mask has a POWER all of its own. If you but wear it, you will have the strength to command, and the people will follow you. You will unleash what lies within you... The UNSPEAKABLE.”

“Are the Hazaar even a threat to us?”

“A threat? Yes, but only a minor threat. The same way a leech or an insect is a threat. But do you think you can keep feeding them your blood and thinking they will become domesticated? NO! It's the biggest joke of all. No project the Hegemony has undertaken has failed worse then the attempt to integrate the Hazaar. The Hazaar CAN NOT be integrated. Bluey has spent his entire Hazaari life, and now his Jaxtian life, failing to do this. They will never be Jaxtians. Our nation, united, indestructible, purifying the stars of all filthy, treacherous aliens. That is the true value of this mission.”

Clearly, Wrix is motivated by something other then pure pragmatic statesmanship. He could have left the computer system to propose that course of action. This goes beyond that. However, what he says still carries a degree of weight behind it. The truth of the matter is, the HVS contains many worlds which are held by treacherous Hazaar who are impossible to integrate, that much is true. Many of the planets are habitable, and many now unreachable resources could instead be yours, purely for Jaxtians, your own people, not caught up in the Hazaar's capitalist engine of wastefulness and greed.

“Consider this, your majesty. Throughout our history, the Jaxtians have exterminated many species. Ones that later we regretted, ecological niche defining predators and too-fragile delicacies with medicinal properties. Such things were looked back upon as a mistake by those living in the comfortable future. But WHY did our ancestors eliminate them? Because beyond them being a threat, it FELT GOOD to destroy. To kill your enemies, to sully their homes, bring fire to clear the underbrush filled with biting snakes and crouching cats who dragged away helpless Jaxtian children to their doom. This is our prerogative and our privilege, to muster our strength and destroy our enemies.”
>>
To WEAR THE MASK would mean to destroy the HVS, and colonize the system with your own people. The Hegemony's space would nearly DOUBLE in size, as well as gaining access to many new and rich worlds. The HAZAAR, however, would have to go. There is no way to relocate so many people, not that you would wish to spare the expense to do so, and there is no way to put them under Hegemonic control. What seems to be Wrix's cruelty and malice is, truly, the only efficient way to conquer the stars.

“To become UNSPEAKABLE as I have is both a blessing and a curse. It weighs on you heavily, but also sets you free. It releases that part within you, that darkness within every PRIMATE MAN, the all-consuming power and desire for control. It unleashes your vengeance and cruelty, almost child-like, demanding absolute obedience and victory in all ways. The power of the mask is such that it will guide you towards the outcome of total victory- no half measures. For each time and enemy strikes you, you will strike them back ten times as hard. You offer them mercy if they betray their fellows, and then laugh in their face as you toss the turncoat into the gas chamber with the rest. It is a great JOY to be able to live this. I do not tell you to wear the mask to give you pleasure, my Lord, but instead understand that it is not wrong, but instinct. To silence the giving, patient part of your mind, the part that allows civilization to form, and instead align the intelligence with the most innate animal HATRED. That is the true power of the MASK, unlocking what we call the UNSPEAKABLE within. I am sure, with this mask, you will be able to set forth the Hegemony onto the path to the brightest future possible. One day, Jaxtian children will swing from trees grown on Hazaari soil, with miles of bones buried beneath it. There is no greater protection of the future then this; a future where your enemies are no more!”

>NOTES
This is the final significant prompt and choice of this thread. After this choice will be a 40 year time skip to wrap up this arc and allow new characters and situations to progress. This timeskip will occur regardless of your choice. You are not missing anything important, and a recap of important events and character epilogues will be provided. There will be one further choice to be made if you choose the Genocide option, which will not significantly change the outcome of either possible decision, and involves more specifically what you wish to do with specific characters.

One-Post IDs and Write-Ins are not allowed for this prompt.

>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
>>
>>5914548
Uurgh, it's not going to win, but honestly, I just wish we killed the Hazaar. We already got rid of the actually cool races. I don't wanna keep the lamest one, it sucks. But it's obvious that it's not going to win after the mess it created.
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
Total Hazaar Death

>>5914553
Perhaps, but it is worth it to try. This is the opportunity we've been waiting for.
>>
>>5914573
Yeah, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up fucking something up like the last time. Maybe some bullshit about there being an escaped group of vetuckers but lol we killed them now. Not that they'd appear on a route where we didn't wear the mask.
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>>
>>5914548
Quite frankly, I hate this choice, not just because this is how all the cool aliens will end up like, but mainly because, as a whole, the release valve and ‘I was weak’ logic is still a retarded excuse for why Wrix spared the traitors and heretics from the Purge when they quote literally had no military to defend them.

Frankly I’m torn, because while I don’t want to go the Genocide route, I also want to ignore the HVS existence and headaches it gives me from the mental gymnastics of its existence. Gonna need to think on it.
>>
>>5914593
Well it's not like we haven't already killed the cool aliens. It really sucks that the worst of them would survive.
>>
>>5914548
>>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)

TAKE BACK WHAT WAS STOLEN.
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
>>
Insanity beckons. The ride never ends.

>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
And I'll do it again.
>>
I wish we could just genocide them like...the normal way. I hate the mask. The mask is cringe. The Hazaar suck, but I'm just tired of every interaction the hegemony has with other races being genocide. Bleh bleh bleh stab the friend, kill the children, it's so stupidly edgy. It seems like most people are going wear thr mask, and honestly, do we really need to murder another 50 billion jaxtians? We had an entire arc about wanting to protect our people and now we're back to murder murder murder murder.
>>
>>5914548
I don't know if this counts as an 1 ID post by fuck iiit, I'm tired of the stupid fucking mask
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
I hate the hazaar but I'm tired of the mask.
>>
>>5914639
If there was a choice to genocide and not wear the mask I might vote for it. Just out of curiosity if nothing else.
>>
>>5914639
I'd rather not kill jaxtians but I want the Hazaar gone.
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
>>
>>5914595
True, but that’s ultimately the point- I don’t really care either decision for different reason, and I rather resent being forced to choose a irrelevant choice (from my perspective), when the real choice was already taken outta our hands. It just feels like another sucker-punch call back to the autism of the previous threads.

>>5914548
The chance to final bury this HVS nonsense, to never revisit it again, is very tempting. To never have to cringe at the mental gymnastics, never have to deal with the inevitable problems they’ll cause, not dealing with this false-puppet state nonsense that burn logic-holes in the back of my mind…. but I’m reminded of Sunshine, the joys of the Yellow Fellow, and the fact that the Bluzzar, Venzzar, and the Yellzar are ultimately innocent of the crimes of the Blackspots and the Reds, much like the Ventuckers and the Swalli. The Green and Yellow Huzzars are the last we have of the Cowmen and Fishmen legacy, and beyond polarized cartoonish extremes, the Bluzzar never had any real development- same for all the Xenos, now that I think on it.

What also comes to mind is that this choice is a microcosm of a previous choice- of whether the narrative potential outweighs the autism of having ‘serious consequences’. Considering the innocent nature of the majority of these species, and the fact narrative potential trumps going full autism on consequences no one understands but the QM, I’m forced to vote for leniency, despite my desire to finally lay this mess to rest and never revisit this narrative scab again.

>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)

I’m sorry, Sunshine, Ventuckers, and Swalli, you all deserved better.
>>
>>5914639
Its iconic though, the kind of thing you put on a t-shirt.
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)

So be literally comically evil for very little gain, or don’t. I know what anons are picking for this.

It’s so fucking retarded that anons have such a boner for genocide. Especially after an ENTIRE ARC about kind of moving away from it. Guess it doesn’t matter.
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
>>
>>5914548
>>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
jaxtians are built for BHP
>>
>>5914548
>>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
Whatever happens, the Migrators must be kept safe. They are the true definition of friend.

Also bananas how is the ear upgrade going?
>>
>>5914675
This is true.
>>
It might be a bit early but I'll tally anyway since this is a pretty interesting vote.
I'll probably tally again tomorrow.

>>5914573
>>5914576
>>5914627
>>5914634
>>5914649
>>5914713
Wear the Mask. Total Hazaar Death.

>>5914629
>>5914645 (1 ID post (hasn't voted before this post))
>>5914664
>>5914673
>>5914688
>>5914698
>>5914707 (1 ID post)
Reject the Mask. Hazaar Independence.
>>
>>5914548
>>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
Le sigh.
>>
>>5914548
>>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask
Also , and I know write-ins aren't allowed but I hope as part of the Rejection we destroy the mask.
We regretted putting it on last time and I don't want it looming as a temptation of doom.
>>
>>5914688
Playing through ba few civ quests now, I wonder how many quests have a "GTA effect" where people just like doing the most violent actions for amusement.
like those folks who drown Sims in the pool.
>>
>>5914784
I am not sure if this allowed but I will use a hashpost since I am out right now
>>
>>5914788
Some of my players definitely pick the "crazy" options in my quest just to see what I'll write.
>>
>>5914664
>>5914548
Changing to
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>>
>>5914548
>>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
I forgot if I voted this thread plz let me have voted
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the mask
Seriously fellas? You really want to cripple the Hegemony again through falling into the same pit? Do you really hate the blue monkeys so, to choose the death-call? Worm-puppets, the lot of you!
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the mask
We have their genetics on file and we don't care about their culture. Might as well strike while the iron is hot.
>>
>>5914740
Alright here's an update to the tally.

>>5914573
>>5914576
>>5914627
>>5914634
>>5914649
>>5914713
>>5914754
>>5914801 (changed from rejecting it)
>>5914866 (1 ID post (sorry anon, seems like you didn't))
>>5914919
Wear the Mask

>>5914629
>>5914645 (1 ID post)
>>5914673
>>5914688
>>5914698
>>5914707 (1 ID post)
>>5914753
>>5914784 (1 ID post (anon if you've already voted in the thread a backlink would be appreciated))
>>5914892 (1 ID but it's Indonesian Gentleman)
Reject the Mask
>>
>>5914548
>>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
TOTAL HAZAAR DEATH
>>
>>5914548
We can't proclaim the independence of the HVS to be over, but then not immediately kill every Hazar? I mean, their beacons are made by us; we can likely turn them all blue with just a command to Threes. Lots of Hazar will still be killed when they try to resist us, and with firmer direct controls we can control their breeding and neuter all but the most compliant and genetically relevant individuals, slowly restricting them down from their current expanse to perhaps one or two rump marginal worlds beneath a greater Jaxtian state?

Nothing against being a horrible authoritarian Monkey bastard, but I'd prefer to be more subtle and clinical in stealing the remnants of the Hazaari future.
>>
>>5914548
>>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)

For me, Hazaar are unredeemable since we voted for Starfire betraying Sunshine.
>>
>>5914975
Sunshine is also a Hazzar. The Mask will lead to what happened to him being repeated billions of times over.
>>
File: FOR YOU.gif (2.16 MB, 280x358)
2.16 MB
2.16 MB GIF
>>5914979
>>
>>5914979
Was also a Hazaar.
It's a tough and difficult choice. But I stand by my vote, and would have voted differently if we chosed to save Sunshine - showing even Red Hazaar are able to put feeling above greed. We didn't. They are no better than mercenary that consortium or aristocrats will be able to pay for backstabbing us.
I want the cow-doc to be spared and cloned though
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)

The path has been chosen, the Hazaar will be dealt with.
>>
>>5914984
>I want the cow-doc to be spared and cloned though
You know he's not going to be.
>>
>>5911250
>>5914784
These are both me

>Reject the Mask
for my officla verified post
>>
File: Noh_Mask_Hannya_type.jpg (637 KB, 2651x3000)
637 KB
637 KB JPG
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>>
This doesn't feel as shit-flingy as the last ones.
>>
>>5915026
The options are clearly marked instead of vague and potentially misleading, exterminating the Hazaar is way less controversial than exterminating the other aliens, and I think the anti-maskers are just resigned at this point.
>>
>>5915026
1.) The Hazaar have been annoying pieces of shit aside from a very few outliers, so it's not like killing the fishe or the cows where there's some merit to keeping them alive. Especially the cows, rip my cow alien bros.
2.) I see no point trying to kick up a storm about it when it's kinda obvious what people are going to vote for.
3.) The outcomes are explicitly labeled so it's not like we're going to be SHOCKED by the outcome.
I voted to keep them around solely because I know that most people are going to pick Wear Mask, so I might as well vote for Reject just in case.
>>
>>5915026
Everyone already hates the Hazaar. It's a question of who you hate more, the mask or the Hazaar?
>>
>>5914788
>people just like doing the most violent actions for amusement.

This isn't contextless violence for it's own sake. Anons hate the hazaar and for good reason. The moment they were encountered we voted to destroy them, but this was vetoed by Talacent. This lead to a chain of events has been a colossal pain in the ass.

Almost everyone who is rejecting the mask seems to be doing so because:

1. (like the Jaxtians) it left such a lasting psychological scar on them that they don't want to risk any unforseen consequences.

2. It seems to turn the Supreme into an evil version of Doom Guy. Which is understandable, why do we have to become a monster that actively enjoys cruelty, (As opposed to a monster that does it out of cold necessity) to annihilate an enemy which we have every reason to wipe out beyond pure hatred.

3. Because the non-red hazaar did nothing wrong.

4.Because it might mean locking in a policy of genocide for any other "cool" aliens we come across.

TL;DR I don't think many anons actually have a problem with wiping out the red hazaar. The death mask just has waaaay too much baggage associated with it.
>>
Alright so as an update in total there are:
13 for wearing the Mask, 14 if you count 1 ID posts.
7 for rejecting the Mask, 9 if you count 1 ID posts.
>>
>>5915002
Also thank you anon it's much appreciated.
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)

>>5915087
Don't forget many anons who hated the previous genocide left
>>
Man, are people going to seriously choose for another round of le mask? After the bullshit it passed? I feel like you're doing this to ruin shit on purpose, like those people rollling out of order during the battle.

You KNOW it's not going to stop on 'kill the hazaar'.
>>
>>5914548
This is a time I want write in.
The time we left them alone can be a example of "see how everything turned to chaos without us" "we shall return and bring the light of civilization to the people"
>>
>>5915209
I dont fucking care beyond reigning in the HVS and using them as a innovation sector or economic engine.
To have the chance to CONQUERE instead of having to squabble over the ruins and have to repopulate the whole place when we got a population already there to do the work.
Come in kickBUTT Show them who's boss and who protects them now that they have seen the chaos that are there own species
>>
>>5915204
I dislike the lack of control.
Also there is a easy third option of just retake the zone
>>
>>5915212
We are being pigeonholed into a shit choice, yes. There is literally no reason we need to wear the mask to retake the HVS.
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
Let us fix Talacent's error forever
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
I almost forgot to vote.I was kinda hoping we'd be able to Annex the HVS *without* the mask. But i'd rather they be independent than to kill everyone there.
>>
I don't see any reason to call this one early. I am a little disappointed in the reaction though, I thought people would be more excited.
>>
>>5915336
If you just asked whether we wanted to invade the HVS, i'm certain people would have, but the mask is a piece of garbage.
>>
>>5915336
It's as exciting as stepping on a cockroach
>>
>>5915342
And normally i'd love to do it to but the last time we 'stepped on the roach' it ended up killing the puppy we adopted.
>>
>>5915336
It's really just a bad reaction from the Mask framing device due to how THAT burned us last time.
>>
>>5915340
>>5915344
The mask IS cool though.
>>
>>5915348
I'm fine with it but I can see how the other anons are hesitant.
>>
>>5915348
no it's not

the mask is shit

it's a giant railroad device that caused the lowest point in the quest and killed the best race
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask (Allows HVS independence & Allows the Hazaar to exist)
>>5915340
100% that i want to conquer it but without having to wear the mask
i desire a referendum with a third option
>>
>>5915371
No.
>>
>>5915372
and you wonder why people weren't excited for this
>>
>>5915348
Sometimes maybe. If we were in an existential crisis and needed to go apeshit to survive, ether genetically or as a polity, sure. However, we don't need the power of the mask to liquidate those who betrayed the Hegemony by refusing to pay taxes as soon as the guns were turned elsewhere. Their military is tiny, and we've presumably had a Hazzar control plan since we formed the buffer state. They were never intended to be independent after all. Just an off color beacon where we could fight limited wars with our neighbors without any real people getting hurt, while still extracting wealth from the territory.
>>
>>5915414
exactly, but because of the railroading we need to go full sadistic psycho-monster to get rid of them or let them stay completely independent. People hate the hazaar, so obviously, they were going to vote for it despite the fact that i'm fairly certain most of them would accept doing the exact same without the mask.

it's an extremely shitty, cheap railroad moment
>>
>>5915348
lol
lmao
>>
>>5915348
Based and true.
I kneel.
>>
Updated vote tally:
15 for wearing the Mask, 16 if you count 1 ID posters.
9 for rejecting the Mask, 11 if you count 1 ID posts.
>>
>>5915348
It's also the source of the largest drama produced from this quest
>>
>>5915348
t. the guy who thought prequel Akule was cool
>>
>>5915348
The Mask is cool, these faggots are still just salty about the wholesome chungus cow people
>>
>>5915336
I find it more depressing than anything
>>
>>5915348
I disagree. It turns the wearer into a Mark Millar Edgelord. I don't find that fun.
>>
>>5915534
Also we dont really do anything after we lose control.
Will probably be some plot about how the mask will control our leaders or something it feels like
>>
>>5915568
Like I said before, the only reason this is winning is because bananas has banned the option of taking the HVS without the mask. There is literally no reason why we need the mask to do it.
>>
>>5915574
Just a theory. A GAME THEORY. Doing so would be the least interesting path and Bananas wants the game to be interesting.
>>
>>5915605
>Doing so would be the least interesting path and Bananas wants the game to be interesting.
I think you mean autistic
>>
>>5915605
If Bananas wants to arbitrarily limit our options, then he should be a good QM and provide a valid IC reason for not being able to do something rather than going "well uhhh because I said so." But that's just a theory.
>>
>>5915605
And how is turning into edgelord psycho-sadist AGAIN interesting? We are LITERALLY retreading old ground. We are going to do the exact same thing as before. That's not interesting.

Of course, it does allow bananas to say "but you chose it :(" when he only gave the option of "wear the mask or let your vassal state become independent"
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)

Keep Bluey though - he’s a chiller
>>
>>5915627
Of course, I mean, he's one of US now. ONE OF US. ONE OF US! OOOOH OHH OOH OOO HUOOH AHHH AAAAAH AAAH!
>>
>>5915336
Again, it’s that narrative potential vs ‘le consequences’ divide. Part of the reason I liked the other species and planets was they had their own character and development narratively- I invested in their journey emotionally. Then my narrative investment soured- they were genocided off, cut short out of their narrative prime.

Same logic applies here- but with the Blue, Green, and Yellow Huzzar caught in the crossfire of our beef with the Reds. None of the other colors deserve to become extinct- the Yellows were great, the Greens suffer from underdevelopment, and the Blues never got a fair shake beyond polarizing extremes. We’re just cutting them down before their prime- much like I imagine all the other species we’ll come across. Hell, I skipped over the elephantmen backstory because it’s irrelevant in the end- why get invested in a new species when we know that the monkes will just genocide them eventually for the simple crime of existing? Why care, when they’ll simply be reaped before their prime?

I can’t muster up the excitement for more slaughter- in the end, what potential they may have had is squandered by the Monke’s insatiable bloodlust. Larping Klingons indeed.
>>
>>5915712
Maybe the real alien narrative development were the friends we made along the way.
>>
>>5915712
>I can’t muster up the excitement for more slaughter- in the end, what potential they may have had is squandered by the Monke’s insatiable bloodlust
I imagine the fact that we have effectively zero actual freedom to chose doesn't help.
>>
>>5915712
The Swall were the only ones who had the potential to reverse the entropy of the universe.
>>
>>5914548
>Reject the Mask
>>
>>5914548
>Wear the Mask (Invades the HVS & Exterminates the Hazaar forever)
>>
>>5915797
Looks like my id changed. I'd link back but I don't remember my previous votes I guess this won't count. At least genocide is winning right now.
>>
>>5914573 W 1
>>5914576 W 2
>>5914627 W 3
>>5914629 R 1
>>5914634 W 4
>>5914645 R 2*
>>5914649 W 5
>>5914664 / >>5914801 W 6
>>5914688 R 4
>>5914698 R 5
>>5914707 R 6*
>>5914713 W 7
>>5914753 R 7
>>5914754 W 8
>>5914784 R 7*
>>5914866 W 9*
>>5914892 R 8
>>5914954 W 10
>>5914975 W 11
>>5914991 W 12
>>5915002 R 9
>>5915139 W 13
>>5915288 W 14
>>5915324 R 10
>>5915371 R 11
>>5915627 W 15*
>>5915771 R 12
>>5915797 W 16

Assuming I didn't miss any, I count 16 to wear, 12 to reject. Three Rejection votes are 1-post IDs, or were when they voted and two of two or the Wear It votes are similarly dubious.

Sadly, I suspect we'll be wearing the stupid mask again.

>>5915348
Maybe occasionally and in moderation, I guess. I didn't care for how it went last time. I suspect this will be much the same.

>>5915377
Kind of agree. :/
>>
>>5915963
Oh wait, sorry, missed that >>5915797 was a 1post. make it 13-to-9.
>>
>>5915975
So close to not having to become yet another stupid edgelord. I was actually harming up to Hass. Now he's going to have to become generic baby murdering sadist #3. I guess making something new would be too hard.
>>
>>5915978
Maybe we should've let the worm kill him :(
>>
>>5914984
>showing even Red Hazaar are able to put feeling above greed.
A specific red Hazaar was an asshole it doesn't mean every Red Hazaar is inherently evil.
the fact we even had the option to o save Sunshine shows a Red Hazaar has the capacity for kindness.
>>
15 for wearing the Mask, 18 if you count 1 ID posters.
10 (it's 9 if you don't count Indonesian Gentleman, but he comes often to these threads) for rejecting the Mask, 12 if you count 1 ID posts.

Unless I'm counting it wrong I think this is the current tally.

>>5914573
>>5914576
>>5914627
>>5914634
>>5914649
>>5914713
>>5914754
>>5914801
>>5914866 (1 ID post)
>>5914919
>>5914954
>>5914975
>>5914991
>>5915005
>>5915139
>>5915288
>>5915627 (1 ID post)
>>5915797 (1 ID post (I'd appreciate it if you could find your previous vote anon))
Wear the Mask

>>5914629
>>5914645 (1 ID post)
>>5914673
>>5914688
>>5914698
>>5914707 (1 ID post)
>>5914753
>>5914754
>>5914784 (is >>5915002 )
>>5914892 (1 ID but its Indonesian Gentleman)
>>5915324
>>5915371
>>5915771
Reject the mask.

>>5915963
Your effort hasn't gone unnoticed tallybro.
Also I hate to be that guy but I think you missed a couple of votes.
>>
>>5915979
We would have been give the same choice with his successor.

>>5916036
Ah dang, I did. The result is unchanged, though.
>>
>>5916036
You counted me twice
>>
The Jaxians remind me of this reference from SolvietWomble’s review of the Forest.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PUWg905fGTA&noapp=1&t=34m38s
>>
>>5916036
I don't think we're going to get many more voters so at 14/10 looks like Mask wins.

>>5915765
Shh. Don't tell them.
>>
Well, and there goes the last chance of the hegemony ever doing something interesting with aliens...it's gonna be so fun to see the exact same thing repeated for the second time. I wonder how many billion jaxtians he'll kill thas time. Maybe he'll flood Myym?
>>
>>5916152
The Jaxtians are perfectly loyal now, at least in Hegemony space. Sucks to see the HVS purged, though.
>>
>>5916174
>implying it'll matter
The mask is basically the "Lets see how many possible plot threads I can destroy" button
>>
Oh btw I just noticed a typo in the last prompt where I said "HVS independence" I actually meant you would still control them behind the scenes and do space china colonialism and segregation stuff, not being totally independent from the Hengemony. Oh but you can't change your vote now we've already called it gotta respect the democratic process lol
>>
>>5916196
Do (you)s get you off?
>>
I have seen actual trains with less railroading than this quest
>>
Say HVS invasion aside, anyone wonder if the mask is actually... magic?

Bananns goes on about how it's effects are because hiding your identity disassociates you from youur crimes or something, and the Jaxtians are only effected by it because of the sheer cultural weight it has.

But come on? Turning the wearer into a sadist tyrant? Forcing the population to submit so thoroughly that it mechanically removes any possibility of rebellion?

That can't just be a mere byproduct of psychology and culture.
>>
>>5916196
Gotta protect Our Demoncracy, right?
>>
Alea iacta est.
>>
>>5916112
Seems like I also put you in the "Reject the Mask" camp for some reason.
My mistake, sorry man.

>>5916141
Wrix doesn't stop winning.
Maskchads rise up.

>>5916196
He can't keep getting away with this!

>>5916206
I'm 70% sure there's some sort of magical or special scientific thing that affects the people wearing it.
>>
>>5916196
Why would you do this? If you aren't joking this is blatantly unfair to your players and frankly, just mean.
>>
>>5916219
Anon, this isn't even the first time he's pulled this. See >>5916202
>>
File: err.gif (948 KB, 245x219)
948 KB
948 KB GIF
>>5916196
>>
File: ehehhehehehe.png (158 KB, 393x385)
158 KB
158 KB PNG
>>5916152
>>5916182
>>5916202
>>5916223
>>
>>5916196
I honestly assume you hate your playerbase Bananas

Not like it matters I guess, I’m just morbidly curious how far this farce will continue
>>
>>5916286
Is it a democracy if we dont even get to know what we vote for
>>
Why are yall taking a 2 post ID as being bananas, that was so clearly bait its unimaginable, from past experience I get that he throws a fit when people dont recognize him using a different ID but he still usually will have an image accompanied, plus that was blatantly someone trying to get a rise out of you tards while pretending to be him
>>
>>5916340
It has his hashcode !!41PmzC6RLY4, it sadly is him. Call me oversensitive but I am seriously hurt.
One of the reasons I like quest is because its a form of art where the artist and audience are in constant dialogue.
That post has BQM cross the line from playful trickster to being a bully. And I didn't like it.
>>
>>5916340
Look at the tripcode
>>
>Caves and uses a tripcode
>People still think Bananas isn't the real deal
Kek, he's going to be so mad.
>>
You guys do know Tripcodes aren't exactly the most secure thing in the world, right?

/qst/ Had an incident wayyyyy back where a QM named Wuxian got another QM named Joker QM banned by using his tripcode that he got somehow, while being range banned . So it's not like this hasn't happened before.

It's like 50% chance of being a troll.
>>
>>5916376
Those were insecure tripcodes, dumbass, which can be cracked using a program. Wuxian got them from mass insecure tripcode dumps on /qa/ (I think? or one of those other weird boards).

Secure tripcodes, like what Bananas is using, can only be cracked by directly guessing the password (or by the QM accidentally leaking the password, which afaik hasn't happened). It's not a 50% chance. It's like a .001% chance.
>>
>>5916346
Alright look, I admit it was a bit in poor taste but you guys have been annoying me all thread. Like people complaining that you can't do a heckin' genocide without the mask when it's been stated MULTIPLE times that the mask is like your secret weapon and only used in big events like extinction wars or rebellions. Especially after people assumed and all said wearing the mask was going to do "extra" stuff when I specifically have been being more transparent and obvious with votes (except the Hass dueling bit, which is why I put it up to a coin toss) so I decided to troll a bit in revenge.

While I did mean that the reject mask vote saying "independence" was a little incorrect for what I meant, I swear to you it wasn't a set up, the mask vote was mostly to see if you guys would keep the Hazaar around or not. You may not believe me but I've been listening to what you've been saying since Dreams and been working towards it this thread. I have a lot more to say about the unfortunate narrative failures that I am regretful for despite autistically pushing towards them, but this vote really was what it said on the tin.
>>
>>5916390
Honestly, this thread feels more fair than the previous ones. The Duel thing was completely in the tone of the quest, because part of this quest charms lies in unpredictability (not on things like xenocides)

Can we keep the handful cowbros alive despite the mask (again) ?
>>
>>5916390
>Especially after people assumed and all said wearing the mask was going to do "extra" stuff when I specifically have been being more transparent and obvious with votes
This is something like poking somebody with a sharp stick at random intervals for ages and ages, and then going "okay, I give up, I won't poke you with a stick anymore," and then getting annoyed when the person flinches every time you move. You've done the right thing, but it's going to take a really long time for players to actually rebuild trust.
>>
>>5916397
>>5916398
To be fair, last time was INTENDED to be a setback moment for us because of internal dissension.
In hindsight, the Mask was the only option possible.
>>
>>5916397
>>5916401

Also, I think people have even more reason to be flinching, because the last and only other time the mask was worn it had about a billion unexplained and in many cases abhorrent and undesirable side-effects. So when you go "ok, put on the MURDER LITERALLY EVERYBODY mask, but this time it will only murder the specific people you want to murder," it doesn't gel with what we all experienced the only other time this came up.

It's like if one time you poked the person with a knife and actually caused a pretty serious wound, but then you swore you wouldn't do any more poking. So the next time you bring out the knife the person starts freaking out, and you go "no, no, no, it's okay, this is my non-stabbing knife! I only stab people with the knife when they DESERVE it!"

Would you trust the guy with the knife?
>>
>>5916403
were we stabbed with a clean knife or a dirty knife?
>>
>>5916405
I think it remains to be seen if we were stabbed with a clean knife or a dirty knife.
>>
>>5916390
BQM man qm to qm, be honest with us, are you getting frustrated with running Monke Quest?
There has been a slow trickle fo discontent in the players that I think si rubbing off on you. It reminds me of how Lucas said a key reason why he sold to Disney was he was just tired of all the bullshit.
This is supposed to be for fun, if it's turning you bitter, maybe take a step back and reassess?
>>
>>5916401
In retrospect, I don't think The Mask vote was actually a cheat. BQM let us vote for that TWICE and put in bold letters on the second vote that some SERIOUS IRREVERSIBLE SHIT would happen if Cijan didn't take the throne back.
And folks still kept Wrix in charge,
I fucking hated it but the audience voted for that shit, same as this one.
I think BQM's biggest issue post thread 5 was leaning too hard into the edgelord elements but The MaskI put the blame almost totally on the players for.
>>
>>5916403
Again there was warning

>But the fact that Wrix is wearing the Deathmask can only mean one thing- something VERY BRUTAL is coming unless you step in and stop it. Something that will change the Hegemony forever.

The Mask vote pissed me off but it was the players who voted for it (twice)
>>
>>5916429
>>5916430
I think the original Mask vote was ~ok (it was obvious that it was bad news, but not exactly what it would be targeting), but the Cijan revival/take back control vote didn't make it clear at all what that would entail, and the original circumstances leading up to the mask vote were super railroaded. Cijan got murdered for no reason out of nowhere, then Kima decided to give up the Supreme role to some Literally Who we didn't vote for, then when we wanted him to be influenced by two people who weren't Akule Bananas outright said he expected Akule to win that vote and forced the Mask anyways. It was a giant mess of extremely questionable QMing on top of extremely questionable, contentious, and possible samefagged player voting.
>>
File: 2buttsmaller.png (168 KB, 593x681)
168 KB
168 KB PNG
>>5916196
holy shit based, give us hell bananas
>>
I for one have still been having fun this thread.
>>
>>5916442
I have too. I wish the Mask didn't have to come back, though.
>>
>>5916390
>the mask vote was mostly to see if you guys would keep the Hazaar around or not. You may not believe me but I've been listening to what you've been saying since Dreams and been working towards it this thread
Don't worry Bananas this thread is pretty good considering the type of meltdowns that used to happen before by some voters in the past. I do legitimately feel like things have been generally improving.
Also the thing with this vote is indeed pretty obvious, I mean it goes without saying that we'd have at least some sort of influence over the HVS if they became independent, but with the probable caveat that they'd become space Uighurs with more political power and an active state while causing near endless trouble for the Hegemony.
>>
>>5916443
I still think the mask is cool, but I get that there's been tons of controversy with it.
>>
>>5916433
I dont think that thread was perfectly handled, but I do think it was clear that not voting for Cijan to come back would lead to some pretty bad.

Like BQM point blank says 'Something brutal will happen if you leave Wrix in charge" and that it would "change the Hegemony forever" I think that is a fair way to give the voters agency without spoiling a plot twist.
>>
>>5916446
I'm just burnt out man. The real world is shit enough as is, a game I play for fun getting this dark (and not in a fun horror movie type of way) is too much for me.
Its been a slow drip but I might check out. There is only so much baby skinning simulator 3000 I can take before its no longer recreation and is more of a habit I haven't moved past.
>>
>>5916390
>okay, so i know that the last time you wore this thing it ended up doing a bunch of completely unrelated genocides
>and yes, i know i have a history of punishing players when they do stuff i don't like
>and yes, i know that whanever someone gets mad at those i just say it was 'the consequences of their actions'
>but THIS time, that's not gonna happen!
You'll forgive me if i'm a bit doubtful, especially after you used an especially shitty word to describe the other option and then 'bragged' about it. That's not the kind of thing you usually do when you "didn't intend it"
>>
>>5916510
It's probably the lol at the end that makes a sharp tonal shift
>>
>>5916533
I can understand if he didn't 'intend' for it to mean that when he wrote it, but if it was indeed an accident, why did he wait until after the results were locked in to say it when people were already complaining about it hours before?
>>
File: 7e0.jpg (166 KB, 820x713)
166 KB
166 KB JPG
>>5916510
You did put on the mask tho
>>
>>5916548
because you specifically wrote the other vote in a way thats worse, yes

totally not a setup, right? you're just bragging about it again because it's not a setup.
>>
>>5916390
this thread is goated, despite all the monkeyfights. you da bomb (BOOM) bananas (ooh ooh aah aah)
>>
>>5916535
its the whole reason why i dont trust. and him seemingly liking to set us up
>>
>>5916559
>"i SWEAR its not a setup bro"
>5 minutes later
>"lolololol your vote lost"
yeah, i'm not stupid.
>>
>>5916390
>Hey guys, I only be nontransparent some of the time now, and when I'm getting revenge against the players for saying things I didn't like
>What do you mean you still don't trust me?
Trust is something that's built up over time with consistent behavior. You can't just do something untrustworthy "less" and expect trust to return.
>>
>>5916552
Its only worse because the audience considers genocide an acceptable option in the first place. Thats on them.
>>
>>5916575
the option didn't do any favors. the hazaar aren't exactly beloved. between letting them go free and killing them, even i would choose the former if it wasn't for the context of the mask.
>>
>>5916579
would choose the latter*
>>
>>5916579
The Red Huzzar aren’t beloved- the other colors are pretty cool I suspect. Shame we’ll never get to develop them narratively.
>>
With end-of-thread autistic diatribe response to the above posts now finished in my notes, we can continue. Update is getting worked on now, hopefully will be up later today.
>>
>>5916444
> I mean it goes without saying that we'd have at least some sort of influence over the HVS if they became independent
That's not what 'independent' means.
>>
>>5916672
Yep you are right it fits no definition or usage of the word.
There is a reason why america had a declaration of independence
>>
>>5916672
You're right I should've said "after the HVS becomes independent."
>>
File: keikaku.jpg (38 KB, 736x414)
38 KB
38 KB JPG
>>5916658
>>
If the Hazaars were exterminated in the first place every other species would've lived.
>>
>>5917314
The vote LITERALLY said no write-ins.
>>
So it was. Comment retracted.
>>
The Hegemony, in all its strength and growth, is still ultimately hemmed in. Trapped between several powerful nations in space, enemies abound around it, and one of those enemies has been the most frustrating and is yet the closest of all- the HAZAAR.

The first truly intelligent and independent alien beings you encountered in open space, and what was the very first thing they did to you? Invite the Baalathi-spawn to invade and attempt to destroy your fledgling empire. This only after trying to scam you time and time again, bringing their infectious pricks and creating bizarre, mixed-race mutt abominations. Truly, abhorrent, from start to finish. On top of this, they squat on valuable land that, by all accounts to the wider universe, they not only lost to the Baalathi's aggressive method of expansion, but then lost it again to you, who rescued it for them. Yet even now, the richest and most powerful of Hazaar make their power plays to gain independence from the Hegemony, their benefactors and saviors, as we oppose their greed and selfishness with the light of civilization. Truthfully, this is not cruelty, it is merely a taking-back of endless, unearned patience.

“Threes. Contact deep storage. Bring it.”

Even with the absolute authority of the Supreme Ruler, certain traditions still bind you, and in this case, the Death-Mask of the Unspeakable will be the token and sign of your true intention. You will EXTERMINATE the Hazaar. Every last one.

The mask was first worn by Akule in his genocide crusade against the inferior Jaxtian races and corrupt nation-states, only put aside after the Hegemony reigned Supreme. Then, it was once again wielded by WRIX VAL, to quell the dissent in the Hegemony and remove all obstacles to purity. It is one of the most sacred and important artifacts of your people, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is a thing of honor or love or respect. Not all of its effects are unanimously praised.

Truthfully, time has been less kind to Wrix Val. While it is agreed that what he did was a necessary action, consolidating power in the hands of the Supreme during a time of strife. Supreme Rulers have been wrong before, and the unquestioning pull of the mask removes the ability for even the most basic forms of dissent as even thoughts and behaviors not fully working towards the UNSPEAKABLE's goals are considered traitorous behavior.
>>
As for yourself? You are not sure how to feel. Your ancestor, TALACENT, specifically forbid the slaying of the Hazaar, the first intelligent aliens the Hegemony came into contact with, for a reason. What was that reason? You are unsure. Perhaps it was the novelty of the time, perhaps it was some kind of misplaced empathy and kindness given to those beings which did not deserve it, or perhaps it was something else. Perhaps it was to set a precedent that has since been broken.

Even looking at the Wrix Val before you now, gleeful at your decision to follow his advice, you are unsure. You don't argue with his goal and logic, it's just the motivations behind it you question. Wrix Val was a secondary Supreme candidate, a short and unpopular blonde, and not even the first among his contemporaries. He was the backup of a backup, only chosen seemingly at random by a woman of all things. You've read the historical records and spoken to Cijan and Jale, both alive and intimately tied to the events surrounding the second UNSPEAKABLE, and you know the truth about him.

WRIX was always very concerned about how others viewed him. You wonder if that influenced him, being the first blonde Supreme and from an unproven family lineage. He draped himself in the colors of other, more popular Supremes from the past. He had big shoes to fill. Desperately being begged to bring order, perhaps even punishment to the Jaxtians of that time, who viewed the entire political crisis to be the direct result of an alien. Perhaps this was all projection from a place of weakness. It is not your place to say if his decision was right or wrong, but perhaps it was simply extreme, an over-correction, as dangerous and wasteful as hesitation in the face of true danger. It is obvious to all, during that time of relative peace, that he was carried away in the waves of the moment.

You will WEAR THE MASK, but you don't intend to make the same mistake.
>>
There it is. Brought up from deep storage, the DEATH-MASK stares up at you from its special sealed container. Sealed away for seventy years, and a thousand years before that, its empty eyes glare up at you with its cultural significance and power. Exactly the same as the one worn by Akule at the foundation of the Hegemony.

“I am your master. I wear you. You do not wear me.”

You slip the cold metal onto your face and buckle the strap. In that moment, you feel your disposition and mood change to ice. Your administrators and elite guard suddenly become much more steeled, their posture snapping to perfect salute. No more warmth. You become the third UNSPEAKABLE.

Immediately, the public reacts. Not with a wave of fear or sadness, but a nostalgic sigh. Their belts are tightened. There is no need for great public displays of punishment or cruelty, there is no need for threats, as it was only in living memory another Supreme donned this mask. Instantly, as soon as the news breaks and the first image of your masked face is broadcast, the Hegemony slips comfortably into the routine of absolute submission to your will. The lack of dissidents means that very few Jaxtians will be included in this purging, except those genetic and foolish dregs who ignore the significance of the nobility and importance of this mask.

The military is readied for your surprise attack, the Hazaar still bickering among themselves as who will pick up the pieces of what appears to be your pulling back from their space. How foolish they truly are for not seeing what is coming. With your fleet still in a state of repair, it will not be instant, and with so many worlds inhabited by Hazaar in the HVS, this will be nothing like Wrix's genocide crusade.
>>
There is but one small hitch and matter of importance that must be cleared.

When a Supreme Ruler wears the DEATH-MASK OF THE UNSPEAKABLE, their actions become practiced and refined by total control and confidence. There becomes only one correct path without deviation, their iron-clad WILL dominating all to accomplish their mission, usually, one drenched in blood and destruction. There is no time or patience for the careful consideration of action.

However, in this case, the concern over a noble family, something very important to you in particular, allows you a moment of clarity and careful consideration even while wearing the mask. You meet with the current head of the Dulioan family, one EOBA DULIOAN, just before you order to move in to the HVS. The Dulioans were once a very important and prominent noble family in the Hegemony, but who unfortunately were prone to distension and boundary-pushing. It is only now that they will reap the consequences of that actions.

Eoba is a middle aged Jaxtian and still one of the most important and prominent members of the HVS. The elite circle of Jaxtians, shrunken from disappearances and time, kept the Hazaar greatly under Hegemony control, which has only started to slip very recently. He wisely made no attempt to hide or escape, but came straight to you when the Mask was revealed. He has made no attempt to set up conditions for their surrender or to try and downplay his family's size and significance, every member has been presented and readied for your sentencing. This is the profligate family whose ancestor, HWAT DULIOAN, in great part created the Economic political-party movement that ended up causing so much trouble. They may have been manipulated by an alien, but in the end, they still made their choice. Now, their descendants face judgment.

“Spare them my Lord, put the blame squarely on me. Let me endure the punishment you have prepared.”

What to do with the Dulioan family?
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
>Subsume them into the Hegemony, removing their nobility and folding them into other families, but allowing them to live and sparing them
>Execute them all for treason
>>
>>5917727
>Execute them all for treason
>>
>>5917727
>Subsume them into the Hegemony, removing their nobility and folding them into other families, but allowing them to live and sparing them
Shame about the Hazaar. I liked those guys. I hope we at least keep our cultural flourishing this time with less gruesome purges of our own race.
>>
>>5917727
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon

He's displaying the proper signifiers of submission. We're here to kill Hazar, not Jaxtians who's parents did a thing.
>>
>>5917727
>>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
We are Aristomaxing leader; let's capitalize on that.
>>
>>5917727
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
>>
>>5917727
>Execute them all for treason
>>
>>5917727
>>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
The Hazaar is our main goal. Nothing else.
>>
>>5917727
>Subsume them into the Hegemony, removing their nobility and folding them into other families, but allowing them to live and sparing them
>>
>>5917727
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
>>
>>5917727
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon

I must just emote "sigh" at this series of events the whole reason justifying the mask was meaningless when we could have had a sockpuppet to present a false image to the wider whole
>>
File: fake_scenario_shitpost.jpg (198 KB, 828x795)
198 KB
198 KB JPG
>>5917865
>>
>>5917727
>Subsume them into the Hegemony, removing their nobility and folding them into other families, but allowing them to live and sparing them
Bruh what did these people even DO? We are really considering genocide for some shit their grandparents did?
>>
>>5917878
Basically the three choices are like this (in my opinion, I'm just trying to find the best reasoning behind them I might be wrong):
>Your ancestors were merely deceived by aliens, and we are not here to kill Jaxtians. You get a full pardon, come back to us.
>Your family failed at keeping the HVS under control, but you don't deserve death for something your grandparents did. You can come back, but without any noble power.
>Letting even a portion of the old HVS exist is a threat to our security. That and the fact you haven't been able to keep the HVS in line, you all deserve death.
>>
>>5917727
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
He's Bluey's son, of course this dude's gotta live.
>>
>>5917727
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
>>
>>5917889
Where IS Bluey, anyway? Shouldn't he be family head after marrying the richest and seniormost Dulioan? And being a product of the Life Machine, shouldn't he be young and healthy?
>>
>>5918023
>Shouldn't he be family head after marrying the richest and seniormost Dulioan?
Not really? He's not a Dulioan, Kima is. So i think the title just passed down to Eoba the Third. I do, however. also want to know where the hell he is.

I hope he hasn't died, Bluey is the MVP. It will also be very fun if the last Hazaar alive is the first Jaxtian Hybrid.
>>
>>5918027
funny*

it will be very funny. not fun. big difference.
>>
I fucking hate Wrix so much
>>
>>5918064
Wrix is a symptom.
>>
>>5917731
>>5917734
>>5917749
>>5917751
>>5917809
>>5917834
>>5917836
>>5917865
>>5917865
>>5917878
>>5917889
>>5917969
>inb4 civil war
>>
>>5918121
Literally impossible due to the mask.
>>
>>5918121
Isn't the whole point of the mask that people will obey us without question or the slightest bit of resistance outside of 40 IQ retards who should've been purged before they were even born?
What fucking civil war? If we told people to kill themselves with a pen, they would do it with an instant.
>>
>>5918121
Ah you mean in the future once we aren't wearing the Mask right?
We're doing a timeskip soon so I guess their great grandchildren might try?
>>
>>5918121
What's the alternative, literally squandering all the effort and votes and narrative investment in Bluey, his transformation, Kima, and the ONLY interesting plot threads which might survive the coming genocide?

God I miss the Reconquista era. Or even the cat cafe before Hass raped his wife and made her abandon her dreams or whatever. I miss building things instead of just tearing them down an imposing terror. The fascist death-drive is the worst.
>>
File: right here.png (641 KB, 644x644)
641 KB
641 KB PNG
>>5918122
>>5918127
>pic related

>>5918131
And that's a good thing.
>>
>>5918133
In a nutshell: fascism is hell of a drug that leads you to dark places you usually wouldn't without a gun
>>
>>5918183
problem is the fuck up bait and switch forcing us into doing this when we could already get what we wanted handed to us in a way that benefits us, we can only fuck so much to populate the purged second and third class species citizens without inviting weakness.
>>5918133
actually how many threads efforts are wasted 3 or 4? oh its all of them and breaking the word of one of our supreme ones who made a similar law to how blondies are treated in our society
>>
>>5917727
>Execute them all for treason
>>
>>5917727
>>5917834
Changing to
>Execute them all for treason
Ok fine fine, let's do the funny.
>>
>>5917727
>Execute them all for treason
They have been polluted
>>
>>5918133
Me too.
>>
>>5917730 Execute 1
>>5917731 Subsume 1
>>5917734 Pardon 1
>>5917751 Pardon 2
>>5917770 Execute 2
>>5917809 Pardon 3
>>5917834 / >>5918282 Execute 3
>>5917836 Pardon 4
>>5917865 Pardon 5
>>5917878 Subsume 2
>>5917889 Pardon 6
>>5917969 Pardon 7
>>5918196 Execute 4 (1post)
>>5918319 Execute 5

4 real votes to execute. 7 to pardon. 2 to subsume, making 9 to spare in some form.

>Captcha sez: MYH8
I think we're upsetting The Machines.
>>
>>5917727
>>Subsume them into the Hegemony, removing their nobility and folding them into other families, but allowing them to live and sparing them
Watch as they breed with a hazaar and have the last hazaar supreme-candidate xd
>>
>>5918593
well i mean, Eoba's dad *was* a hazaar once. Not when he conceived him, but once. He also named him after some guy he had a crush on, which is very weird.
>>
>>5918606
Bluey has always been the most based character in this Quest ngl

Woo finally back at my home IP address! Special formatting is back on the table.
>>
>>5918606
Weirder that Kima was cool with it. And honestly that she ended up in a relationship with a guy like Bluey, with all he's done. Perhaps her soft heart extended only to other Jaxtians, though.
>>
>>5917727
>>Execute them all for treason
>>
>>5917727
Will change >>5917731 to
>Allow them back in the Hegemony with their Noble status, full pardon
to offset the execution votes.
>>
>>5918663
>In an alternate time-line where we chose biology over culture, the Yuan and Sunshine scene was replaced with a Bluey and Eoba scene.
Suddenly I don't feel so bad about this time-line anymore.

The madlad would probably find a way to get bluey to be the receiver. Truly the chaddest of all supremes.
>>
>>5918664
I don't think she knew? Eoba was dead for several decades by the time she was even born.
>>
>>5918724
>the Yuan and Sunshine scene was replaced with a Bluey and Eoba scene.
Now that is a mental image I am glad I will never have to see.
>>
>>5918663
it was a coin toss if they would have ended up as a female or male due to the species imagine if that haazar became a female and mated with the supreme.
also all the knife fighting must look like porn due to there dagger dicks
>>
File: Spoiler Image (314 KB, 990x1400)
314 KB
314 KB PNG
>>
>>5919005
>a green hazaar did something
wow, that's a new one. funny how there wasn't a single one of them who even did anything.
>>
>>5918109
True.

I fucking hate Wrix AND the audience and writer trends that led to him so much.
>>
>>5919005
>And then Brutus was skinned alive while his children were ground to paste in front of him and force-fed up his mouth
>>
>>5919034
no i think he stole the shuttle and fucked off to the consortium
>>
>>5919036
I hope so. Quest has gotten too grimdark for my tastes.
>>
>>5919005
Shame to see Sunshine’s sole legacy die like that… but I guess it’s an inevitably in this quest, to snuff out what remains of the good.
>>
>>5919171
>Legacy
Did you really want his legacy to be this aristocrat wannabe mfer?
>>
>>5919235
No- but what other legacy does he have left? ;_;
>>
>>5919242
Brutus will spread the myth of 'The Yellow Fellow' to the consortium and initiate a new religious movement that will someday attempt to 'return' to their Holy land of the former Hazaar worlds.
>>
>>5919288
No, but I'm certain they'll make a VR story from it.
>>
>>5919036
he cant just have one shuttle? who is rich with only ONE!
>>
>>5919383
One super-duper stealthy interstellar shuttle that can evade the hegemony's advanced AI monitoring system.
>>
>>5919288
I kinda want the superhero elements of the Yellow Fellow to inspire a Shiar Imperial guard type group we can fight later.
>>
You have decided to pardon the Dulioan family, and by extension, restore their noble status in the Hegemony. You welcome them home, the profligate family who once betrayed the Supreme Ruler in a great era of misunderstanding and foolishness. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.

With the return of the Dulioans, the Val family's status as a “replacement” noble house is somewhat questioned. Regardless, Jaxt, your homeworld and seat of power, feels a little more crowded now.

With the donning of the Deathmask, the Hegemony's people are whipped back into shape. However, there is a noticeable difference then the previous UNSPEAKABLE who wore it. Your influence over the people, while hard as steel, is less critical of their nature, less inquisition to their purity and loyalty. Instead, you are more as the master who leashes the hounds, who chomp at the bit, readying their fangs for your enemies in a hateful glee. They merely ready you to loose them.

Once the fleet is restored, you will.

The Hegemony's war machine whirls back to life, at a lesser cost and at greater speed then otherwise due to the recent war at the Stand, exactly as was advised. But this isn't about fulfilling the mission of some irrelevant, still living-Supreme. Your mission is one of revenge, of clearing the way, and doing what should have done a long time ago.

The HVS's push towards independence means many of the Hazaar are already jockeying into positions of power from the vacuum left by your retreat. The vast majority of them have no idea what is coming. You broadcast manipulations, raising tensions among the different “races” of Hazaar, and have your AI manipulate economic data to make it seem as though stockpiling food, weapons, and other resources is less valuable then networking and building large social registries. Many of the Hegemony's laws are intentionally broken, and in the following few years, the Hazaar degenerate towards their sexual and filthy baseline. The black books of Hazaar prostitutes and mailing lists for the newest euphoric drugs will become your spreadsheets for genocide. It's time to end this.
>>
Over the next 40 Years, a grand crusade begins again. The Reconquistia of Cijan Anak replayed in bloody, glorious correction. Though, you find no joy in it.

Among the Hazaar, most are too individualistic and feeble to put up any real resistance, but this will take longer and be most costly then the previous Mask antics. The Hazaar have some very minor weapons and ship technology- mostly equating to biological acid weapons for long range ship combat, and their now much-outdated Argon gas computers. The Hegemony's attempt to integrate them only included miminal technology, which turned out to be the right call to weaken the Hazaari.

Your procedure for extermination is simple. Blockade the planet or orbital body so none can escape, cut off communications and weapon systems, then go building by building, landmass by landmass, Hazaar by Hazaar, and exterminate them. The spite you feed into your people is purely utility, there is no personal grudge. Grand displays of torture and sadism are unnecessary. If you truly believed the Hazaar to be nothing but animals, then any more spite would be out of character. Once you are finished with a planet, you move on to the next, the Hazaar's lack of empathy and community means none come to attempt to rescue their fellows or give advance warning to the others. They are divided by nature, and as such, the filthy insects scurry into their holes before you pull them out.

The only Hazaar to put up any real resistance are the Blues. Joining together in larger social groups and conditioned by the Hegemony's influence, many of them are actually patriots for the HVS, joining together to fight an impossible war as a militia against your empire. However, real life is not an interactive-fiction in the heroic tradition. Tiny, inferior nations will always lose against a greater force without outside influence, and nobody will help the Hazaar. While the Hazaar are by no means warriors, and your propaganda makes them even more despised then ever, the Blue Hazaar gain a certain amount of respect among the Jaxtians during their final days and sieges. Simply put, they are still parasites, but realizing their incoming loss, they stop fighting and accept defeat. Many don't even try to run or hide, and instead kneel before their conquerors. They earn the right of the Black Knife in the end- Honored Foe to End, and you kill the milita's leader by your own hand as a gesture of respect. They are not warriors, but they are parasites who have the good sense to die, and for that, they gain a certain level of respect.
>>
In the end, over 100 billion Hazaar are exterminated. The “war” is long, with only a few hundred Jaxtians in total being killed by the enemy. It's an unprecedented victory. As you move away from a cleansed system, its AI beacon automatically changes from the HVS's signal to the Hegemony, showing the wider universe your expanding territory. More land for Jaxtians, and Jaxtians alone. More victory for the Hegemony, and the Hegemony alone.

It's a heavy burden for you to carry.

With the final system cleared out, the extinction dates are logged forevermore and added to the credentials of your Victorious history. It is a glorious, if exhausting, moment of finality. All the Hazaar are now dead. With the secrets of FTL technology hidden from the Hazaar, you know of none who could possibly escape, meaning your job here is done. The many years of your iron grip and focus are finally over as the mask slips, and the Hegemony can go back to normal.

The seemingly ever-young Cijan Anak scribbles on a golden tablet, these corrosion and entropy-resistant material cataloging the true and unchanging record of Hegemony history, much removed from the shifting and censoring of the AI network for its social manipulations. These tablets, and the true history and long-arcing purpose of the Hegemony has been his life's goal.

Notable Events of this Era

Year 72- The Supreme Ruler, HASS TAKAR dons the DEATHMASK, becoming the UNSPEAKABLE.

Year 78- The Hegemony invades the HVS without warning.

Year 80- Urgi pirates operating in HVS space flee after receiving a warning from the Unspeakable. If they return is yet to be seen.

Year 83- The last Blue-Hazaar militia ship in the HVS surrenders unconditionally. With their extermination, the last Jaxtian hybrid abomination is destroyed.

Year 86- Once-over surveys confirm several valuable untapped resources in the wake of the extermination fleet. True surveys and exploitation of these resources are halted by Hass Takar as the Hegemony focuses on its goal.
>>
Year 87- Green Hazaar are discovered to be able to survive on weeds and mold, as learned in the concentration camp on Skik IV. With starvation no longer the most cost-effective measure of extermination, they are instead killed by kinetic bombardment.

Year 89- Hidden Hazaar bunker from before the Baalathi invasion was found on a “life-moon” in orbit of a remote planet. They had no idea the Hegemony even existed before their life support was remotely switched off.

Year 91- The Consortium officially sanctions the Hegemony due to its “violation of sapient rights”. The sanctions are ignored.

Year 92- Hologram technology advances to complete and free-moving 3d projections.

Year 95- Bluey, the first Blue-Hazaar hybrid, later transformed honorary Jaxtian, dies of old age. Despite being improved by the life machine, he seemed to age like a normal Jaxtian, before finally dying of natural causes, peacefully, in his sleep, at the exact biological age of 100. This is the average life expectancy of a Jaxtian.

Year 96- The last known Green & Yellow Hazaar are destroyed, removing the final living remnants of the Vetuck and Swall aliens respectively.

Year 102- The fortified capital planet of the Hazaar is found, but protected by “White & Black” spores, that make entry into the atmosphere impossible. Research on countermeasures are begun.

Year 103- The Esaal colonies in the Baalathi cluster open a trade agreement with the Hegemony.

Year 104- The Galactic Society of Aristocrats notice and give a personal gift to Hass Takar for destroying the Hazaar. The gift is a fruit basket. The UNSPEAKABLE wishes to add a personal note to this record; “Actually very good.”

Year 105- Hazaar in the Umuc System release Liminal energy and matter parasites into the system from safe containment. Many unfortunately escape into interstellar space.

Year 107- The capital planet is finally entered. The last Hazaar is exterminated in a bunker, ahead of schedule. This victory is officiated and added to the list of glories for Victory Day. This concludes this record.

>Stay tuned for the final update of the thread to be posted tomorrow!
>>
>>5919708
>The UNSPEAKABLE wishes to add a personal note to this record; “Actually very good.”
kek
>>
File: images (38).jpg (17 KB, 600x343)
17 KB
17 KB JPG
>>5919708
Good night, sweet blue prince...you were more monkey to the end. May you join your fellow jaxtians in the afterlife.
>>
>>5919709
Worth it.
>>
>The last Blue-Hazaar militia ship in the HVS surrenders unconditionally. With their extermination, the last Jaxtian hybrid abomination is destroyed.
>Bluey, the first Blue-Hazaar hybrid, later transformed honorary Jaxtian, dies of old age.
>The last known Green & Yellow Hazaar are destroyed, removing the final living remnants of the Vetuck and Swall aliens respectively.
>>
>>5919704
>Tiny, inferior nations will always lose against a greater force without outside influence
{Doubts in US military}
>>
>>5919704
>>5919706
>>5919708

Good update Bananas.
>>
>>5919706
...did we forget that Haazar travel interstellar space without FTL drives? That's how they first came to Jaxt!
>>
>>5919735
the blues where honorable enough to be worth reviving with cloning would be interesting to set up a facility for that a tiny little artifical world.
like always we are collecting samples atleast
>>
>>5919708
Kino
>>
Good thread Bananas. Thank you for running!
>>
It still hurts
>>
>>5920602
Maybe we'll get some opportunities to enrich and expand our culture in the former HVS region?
>>
>>5920610
Well I'd hope so, it's a lot of space. The Hazaar cluster seems like it has more than twice the amount of habitable planets of the Hegemony.

I mean, we have what? Jaxt, Andoen, Swallia and Vetuck? What else?
>>
YEAR 108 OF THE RESURRECTION ERA
You, Hass Takar, the Supreme Ruler of the Hegemony, can finally rest. Taking off the Deathmask of the Unspeakable, your labor is complete.

You don't feel relieved, truly. You've done terrible things while wearing the mask. The weight of those actions did not hit you then, when you were as iron underneath, but now, they feel all too real.

In the end, your genocide crusade was successful. No one can doubt your leadership, and your legacy is assured for all time. Look at how you much you conquered, all of the HVS, the Stand, and so many more. Your own people adore you, and yet it feels just a little bit hollow. You wish it didn't have to be this way. It is not the violence that unnerves you, it is simply the way it coddles and carries you, feeling like the first and last resort, all too easy and gruesome in its satisfaction. This is simply life in this universe, and there is no denying it.

Studying under Talacent, both as a robotic projection and the man in history, you can see the promise and the dreams that inspired him, and many leader of the Hegemony. It's message not one of total domination for the sake of it, but for the sake of defeating the true enemy. It is a shame then that, in order for your nation's purity and strength to endure forever and ever, it must come to this. Still, you strived to not be like Wrix, to not fill yourself with the persona of the UNSPEAKABLE and lose yourself in mania, and you did not. You simply did what was required by you by natural law. The law of survival and self preservation, the laws of game theory. By the edge of the knife, you've accomplished what so many warmongers have wanted. But it is simply routine at this point. Evolution and survival for its own sake, and nothing more.

At least, now that it is over, you can rest. With the supply of Azurium from The Stand being used to build the Great city of Myym, and the newfound territories ripe for exploitation, the future of the Hegemony in this ever-more connected and diplomacy focused world seems bright. If only the methods used to get there could be as noble as you had hoped. You had wished to content with a hateful, honored foe, but in the end, you scourged an infestation of ticks and parasites from their holes. There is no glory in it, only the ugly truth.

You put the mask away back in its case, to be used the next time the Supreme Ruler must remind this physical plane what the supreme authority by which all other authorities are derived...
>>
>>
>>
File: Spoiler Image (238 KB, 1200x1258)
238 KB
238 KB PNG
Q&A and the Archive link will be posted tomorrow at the same time. See you then.
>>
>>5921170
Sad we took the easy way out with Hass instead of taking the choice to follow in Talacent’s footsteps.

His arc is complete for now, but pretty deeply unsatisfying, it really felt he was built up to follow in Talacent’s footsteps and take a stand against the hyper-violent ultra-materialist direction the hegemony keeps progressing in, but the votes go the way they go.


The Hazaar were pretty universally hated, and I’m guessing those who were vehemently anti-genocide probably dropped after the fiasco with the other alien races genocides, and the muddied way the vote went.


I guess I can cope and say Hass learned to respect care about the Monke’s who worship him, but that isn’t really such a hard thing to do even if other Supremes utterly failed it in the pursuit of “general” good.
>>
I can't tell if the lack of reaction is a good thing or a bad thing.
>>
>>5921198
It's the middle of the night in the US and the update's been up for less than an hour.

Anyways, I'm glad Hass went less crazy nutso than he could've. May we head into a brighter, less shitflingy future.

yay feesh
>>
>>5921175

Dun Dun DUUUUUN!
>>
>>5921175
Ah shieeeeeeeeeeeeet
>>
>>5921198
Are these Ancient Andoen aliens on Swall/Myym, a Stasis-Tube'd Swall on Andoen; or both being incongruously present on a third world we're exploring?
>>
>>5921221
It's Swallia. I used the ocean colors and an implied construction vehicle, but that wasn't very obvious now that I look at it again.
>>
>>5921170
>our map shape is dicking the Consortium
>>
Swalls are back. Our chance to get Yellowbros integrated in the Hegemony? Nice.

Still wondering if a few cowbros are still around.
>>
We at least should have their DNA.

Can we
>Attone for killing the cool aliens by genetically cloning them back to life as minorities?
>>
>>5921175
>>
>>5920025
The Bluzzar showed that the bugmen were redeemable- they were proper patriots, and had not the polarized extremes taken so much screentime, I imagine they would’ve been uber-loyal pre-Mask. The Yellows and Greens probably would’ve been the same.

I would’ve been curious about the other flavors of the bugman rainbow, but I guess keeping a Catman, Esaal, or Bantam’s xeno crush alive for hybrids wasn’t an option. A Worm bugman would’ve been interesting, especially if we could’ve spliced more Jaxian genes into it. Alternatively, a Worm/Swalli hybrid would’ve been hilarious for it’s continuous identity crisis of ethical nihilism.

>>5921198
If Iceberg is Overseer of Xeno-Intergration rn, I’ll probably die a happy monke.
>>
>>5921175
Time to commit genocide again
>>
>>5921280

Pretty sure there have been slower-then-light Hazaar ships voyaging to and trading with the consortium even before their cluster got overtaken by Baalathi, so unless the Consortium have their own genocide policy against Hazaar we'll probably see some Leraay-Hazaar around eventually (especially when mating within their own species holds a potentially lethal outcome for Leraay).
>>
>>5921175
I had a feeling they were going to come back. It's expected that we wouldn't of caught them all in HVS territory.
We'll have to see how this plays out. They probably just want to be left alone, and I'm fine with respecting that.

>>5921233
We'd have to bring back 'gross' aliens like the Hazaar alongside the 'cool' ones. Can't be discriminating because of race, now.

>>5921306
based?
>>
>>5921324
That's a Swall. THAT WE KNOW OF, they were only on a single world, and it wasn't one in the HVS.

..Of course, depending on how long they held access to these Ancient Andoen Alien ruins on their homeworld and what kind of technology was left behind to find, it's not impossible they might have Stargated their way to a new planet elsewhere...
>>
>>5921175
Oh damn, a Swall. Maybe we can not kill them this time? Shame it ain't a vetucker, but it's better than nothing.
>>
>>5921198
I was at work. This is quite the twist. Rad as hell though. A lot to absorb, in the best way.
>>
>>5921175
>>5921174

Ignore the fish, is that a massive new star chart!
>>
>>5921514
I mean, even if it is, would it really matter? It's not as though we're missing any planets.
>>
>>5921522
We can still discover things such as better path (improving logistics), so yes it matter
>>
>>5921522
I love stars sight! I love Space Whales! I love exploring the mysteries of the universe!
>>
>>5921585
Again yes, that's cool, but an ancient Starmap isn't any of that

Unless, of course, the "mystery" here is thr ancient precursors in andoen who apparently traveled this cluster a long time ago.
>>
>>5921591
The Star Charts are literally based off the migration patterns of the Space Whales and are now gravity wells are interpreted in Star Sight.
>>
>>5921585
And then the players vote to kill all those mysteries.
>>
>>5921850
Hopefully we won't vote to kill this guy. If we can get an Swallian reserve going on, i'd be happy at least something got saved. I am fairly certain that that old cunt Wrix has gone off to hell by now, so it's not like he and his psycho posse will complain.
>>
File: pepe stare apu.jpg (21 KB, 360x360)
21 KB
21 KB JPG
>>5921850
...I did exactly what you wanted, and you're still complaining?
>>
>>5921956
He's doomposting, not complaining. There's a difference.
>>
>>5921956
It will never be enough for some people, Bananas. Just write what you want to write, screw them.
>>
>>5921956
I'm not mad at you (for this) I'm mad at the players who keep voting for the most violent, depressing, edgelord and boring options.
>>
File: Spoiler Image (90 KB, 900x637)
90 KB
90 KB PNG
---------------
That's the end of the thread. Thanks everyone for playing!

Archive Link- https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2024/5879681/

Now I'll post some replies I have saved up from over the course of the thread. I might have missed some, but if you have any more NON plot or spoiler related questions I'd be happy to answer them later.

>>5885548
>>5885610
Couldn't answer these in the thread for obvious reasons, they're getting touched on later. I did want to move away from listing out every single planetary anomaly and solar-system detail to avoid the headache as the empire grows bigger but I feel like that level of verisimilitude and micro-management fits the Quest theme, so I'm not sure.

>>5894348
Fuck you for posting this. I was going to save it for a mid-image update. Really nice piece of art though, probably my favorite Jaxtian redesign. If I could draw with more consistency I would strongly consider just stealing this style for all of them.

>>5895093
>>5895627
Of course the Jaxtians have “mental health institutions”, that does not eliminate all possible character flaws or the ambitious and driven, especially in their culture of submission to the Supreme Ruler and might-makes-right. This is honestly become my biggest pet peeve, as though you are trying to optimize out any possible interesting character development or conflict.

>>5898178
>>5904480
It was this write-in in particular that made me realize I really had no more interest in allowing them.
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2023/5752107/#p5758885
It's a bit deeper then that but basically I don't want to do write-ins anymore because it moves the quest away from the “choose your own adventure” style prompts I like to write with significant positives and negatives for each choice. For certain choices or puzzle choices I have to allow them, but for average posts I don't think we gain anything from allowing write ins over just having set responses.

>>5899429
From now on, if you refresh the page and see your post chopping up my update, please delete your post. I much prefer it if votes and updates/prompts are all together for the sake of readability. Unless you did it on purpose in which case kill yourself.
>>
>>5903352
This guy also got it in one. I'm surprised at my players able to foresee my traps, maybe I'm getting too predictable.

>>5899507
>>5903481
I also want to make it clear in case the more sarcastic responses weren't- I don't actually have a problem with the concept of allowing Approval voting, but the issue is update speeds and parsing out what each vote means. It already takes a non-zero amount of time to count up all the votes, and given this quest's playerbase's propensity to make ties with 10+ votes for both of the most popular choices having to include secondary and tertiary votes into each one would be really annoying. Once again I want to make it clear I've also noticed the same issue that you have, but I feel that given that /qst/ is a social medium of play if you really want your choice to win I think making a convincing argument to get others to vote with you should be part of the “game”.

>>5908486
Thanks! I was worried about the elephants in particular because of their trunks- I was worried they'd look a bit too much like Hazaar and Aristocrats. In a more autistic world I would have tried to color coordinate every species to be unique- Jaxtians being blue, Vetuckers being green, etc. with primary or secondary color relations- but it didn't quite end up that way. The pink furless cat Leraay color, Aristocrat hot pink, Prooh purple, Worm tan/skin tone, etc. They aren't as distinct as the bright saturated as the other alien races.

I also made the intentional choice to avoid gray 99% of the time. If you notice back during Cijan's reign (the Supreme with the gray robes and twin tails) I had to get creative with the backgrounds to make them less gray, since given my artstyle colors that are too similar blend together so he'd have invisible robes if I didn't give some color to the backgrounds more. I can't say I've done a bunch of intentional color theory but this quest uses color quite a lot so that's a fun part about drawing it.

>>5908871
>>5909279
I didn't want to bog the thread down more during this trying time, but simply put; you're wrong. Imagine actually getting mad you can't get Battleships from a single choice and it's unfair when you had a choice early to get TEN PERCENT of Battleships and that was WITH spies during the secret project, not stealing from the databanks of some random military ship that has nothing to do with the battleship thing. Blaming me while you lack even the absolutely most basic ability to read context is completely retarded.
>>
>>5911144
I appreciate the compliment but those pictures were... not exactly what I'd call high effort pieces. For me? My favorite in the thread was probably >>5905895

>>5915613
Another thing I didn't want to bring up during the thread while it was live; It's posts like this that actively make me think the players simply do not read the posts. I spent multiple of the posts of the Mask prompt in this thread explaining why the Hazaar cannot be integrated into Jaxtian society, and the cultural/historical significance of the Mask being the evil genocide button is why it's used instead of just not having it. Extra annoying considering the previous Mask debacle and people saying that “make your own mask” was a valid write-in when it makes no dramatic or narrative sense.

>>5916510
If you really dislike me that much or think I'm being this intentionally dishonest I wonder why people like this stick around. Like I said, I've been trying to be more transparent but sometimes you jump to conclusions then get mad at me when I don't match those conclusions. The whole Mask thing the first time, for the billionth time, was a decision or trade-off between losing some of the Supreme Ruler's power permanently OR destroying some of your alien diversity/enforcing purity and causing lots of death and destruction. There wasn't some magic perfect solution where you got everything you wanted. In my mind, after the numerous warnings and signposts (even if they weren't 100% clear), the players chose the genocide route. That was how I interpreted it, because I always wanted genocide to be a possibility in the Quest because so few pieces of media actually allow you to play as the bad guys who do things like that, which is something I wanted to allow.

Even more annoying that you're taking what I said when I said something clearly inflammatory and trollish and took it as literal or gospel. Come on bro, I literally put “lol” at the end.

>>5916196
>>5916390
I also want to go over these posts real quick. I want to make it clear I wasn't lying in the second mask prompt that happened in this thread; but the idea was that you'd either conquer the HVS and kill the Hazaar (mask) or let them become an independent, weaker nation (reject). The idea here is to have a bit of role reversal to how the Hegemony started off in international space- surrounded by stronger enemies and not trying to step on anyone's toes. So instead the HVS would be a new nation of “aliens” you can interact with, but they'd be weaker then you and easier to manipulate. So you could bully them, or tax them, or try to use them as a shield- but you are also still a protectorate nation. So if they got into a fight with the pirates or Esaal you'd need to back them up because they would get destroyed otherwise, or if the Consortium were doing too much business you'd have to try and do your spycraft and secure your tariffs and tributes and such you get from the HVS, etc.
>>
Alright here comes the big one. This is all meta-shit so don't worry if you don't want to read it. It's long.

>>5916390
Anyway to go over what I was saying here real quick- I really liked and wanted the idea of the monke threads to be a sort of universe/philosophical sandbox where certain ideas or concepts that are not acceptable in mainstream culture. It's not necessarily meant to be an indictment or even showcase of them, but it's something I find very interesting and constantly find lacking in mainstream media. For exmaple; what if the evil space naizs are actually the good guys? What if torture for the sake of torture isn't bad, as long as its against your enemies? What if forcing women into a strict hierarchy actually makes society better and our pro-feminist, pro-democracy, anti-fascist mainstream cultural zeitgeist really is the great satan? (Degenerate capitalist era), etc. It's not something you can talk about, even in hypotheticals or the context of a fantasy/sci-fi game, except on 4chan.

Now with that being said, I may admit that my eagerness to showcase and play with these concepts in these threads may have manipulated to story away from what the players wanted or thought was acceptable to what I wanted to explore. That may not be fair to you, but at the same time, it's part of the reason why I wanted to run these threads in the first place. These concepts and politics are, once again in my opinion, really just a result of physics, game-theory, and basic biology. This is why I find them so interesting, as they are essentially a form of existentialism which is so rarely explored or even talked about. I try not to have a big head about myself and my perceived intelligence. I like to think I am just average, and coming onto 4chan where the average poster is significantly more intelligent then some rando on the street (not a meme, being able to type out sentences in complete English is not ubiquitous for native English speakers), and yet despite this NOBODY talks about this or explores this side of things that I find so interesting except very rarely on /lit/ and occasionally /pol/, and those boards are so absolutely infested with garbage-brained political retards and tradcath larpers it becomes impossible to get anything of value from them. It's easy to say that “you shouldn't be trying to get that kind of experience from a game on /qst/”, but I feel like its' easiest for me to explore these things in the context of a forum game and to share these insights, which I have found to be very deep and meaningful to me, with others in this quest.
>>
The issue with it is, as been stated multiple times, is that the genocide option of playing the evil aliens who conquer everything is the loss of narrative investment and general feels-bad reaction of doing evil shit. I like the surprise and in a way unfariness of the votes, because it represents real life more in my opinion. This is something I noticed while playing Civ, and while not meant to be a real-life simulator by any means, as the game allows you to basically have all your populations being at maximum happiness very easily as long as you don't overexpand or aren't constantly being raided by bandits. It's so immersion breaking and stupid that a few luxury resources would make a whole civilization just “ecstatic” all the time, for all the social classes, without the ability to run out, without getting used to it, etc. In the real world, managing a nation is HARD, things happen, bureaucracies form to deal with the inherent mess and instability of both human beings and resources and to bring an ordered (if extremely shitty and inefficient) method of distributing and preserving resources. I don't like the idea of a civilization quest/game where everything is just perfect all the time like that, you can't ALWAYS get what you want out of a trade or action. You can't just invade anyone or push forward every social policy because in real life it doesn't work that way either. Our elected officials and “elites” in real life have their hands tied in actually fixing the problems we deal with on a daily basis way more then we want to admit. If you ran the fantasy space empire you would have the same restrictions even beyond the fact you are THE Supreme Ruler, and can do anything, you actually have a very limited set of things you can do, and your ability to predict what these decisions will lead to is also very limited. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to do hidden outcomes so much during the course of the quest, from small to big decisions.

The problem with the above is, as stated before, it doesn't feel fair or controllable enough, or worse yet, like I am intentionally messing with or railroading things I want to happen. I have railroaded things before, I don't think I can deny that with any legitimacy, but for most of these threads I genuinely try to make a world that reacts in a way that is predictable and gameable. Ad-hoc realizations and themes are much easier to make then planned ones, which may be a reason I rely on them too much, but people assuming that I'm doing it to live out some political fantasy when I have stated multiple times I'm really not, is when I started to get annoyed. Or when people say I'm trolling. I don't feel like I am trolling, though sometimes I do post shit as a joke or a meme, I'm not actually trying to make people mad. But being accused of it multiple times over and over again makes me actually unhappy. I would never try to ruin my own quest.
>>
It's further irritating when politics get brought up. I don't consider any of the above politics, they are simply things that are, it's people who take these concepts and apply moral and ethical beliefs tied to them and project these beliefs onto others who support or don't share the exact same view as them, even in the context of a fictional game. Then, these individuals cause problems. One of the reasons I am so tight lipped about politics in general is for this reason. People in this thread have unironically formed into political parties, which I find amusing, but have also caused actual problems with the voting and accusations of samefagging or trolling or trying to “ruin” the quest. However, the worst part is- and may all forgive me for actually giving credence to this- there are people who ARE trying to cause a fail state. I'm not sure why, but whenever they continue to post in that way it only makes me feel worse. Like they aren't engaging with my philosophical material or an attempt to read into the “soul” of the work at all, and are simply playing for points and worse yet, trying to ruin everyone else who is merely trying to “win” the game, whose explorations are not as deep or significant as I would like, but at the very least are trying to “play”. That is where the true frustrations lay. I took a one year break from monke game for this exact reason- to hope the trolls would get bored waiting and move on to a new project so only those with a vested interest in this Quest and its world would come back, but the fact there are still multiple in this very thread (and not even just 1-posting) was probably the worst and most disheartening part of coming back. Still, I am not giving up on monke game or any of you, as this project has grown to be really important to me. Thanks for reading and playing the game so far and I hope you come back for the future threads in all their autistic glory. <3
>>
>>5922028
Sorry for posting the art. I just thought it was neat. A player sharing art that had already been 'published' wouldn't upset me, so it did not occur to me that it would upset you.

>>5922028
>>5922031
>>5922034
>This is honestly become my biggest pet peeve, as though you are trying to optimize out any possible interesting character development or conflict.
>Extra annoying considering the previous Mask debacle and people saying that “make your own mask” was a valid write-in when it makes no dramatic or narrative sense.
I'd argue this comes from a rather narrow approach to the narrative. 'Making your own mask' has a lot of potential as a major shake-up in a society that is at least partly cult-of-personality for a 1000-year-old mythologized dictator, just as trying to 'even out' extreme personalities and calm down neuroses could have upsides and downsides as potentially it takes tolls elsewhere (fewer 'interesting eccentrics' like Eoba I, mood stabilizer dependencies, things like that).

>>5922034
>the idea was that you'd either conquer the HVS and kill the Hazaar (mask) or let them become an independent, weaker nation (reject)
I really think that could have been clearer, but wouldn't have changed the vote. You have two major subsets of players now, as others have brought up in other threads. There are the people who are sort of LARPing or living out fantasies of racial purity and eliminating 'parasite races', and those who have really galvanized against that as the 'pro-tolerance, anti-genocide' faction. There are swing voters and neutral parties, but the camps in question are pretty entrenched. I do think saying 'oops, I was unclear, but lo, no backsies' (to paraphrase) rubbed salt in the wound a bit. I'm sure you can see why.

>>5921956
I am glad the Swall and Vetuckers are back. I'm a bit disappointing in how incurious people are about weird alien biology, finding every allusion to alien reproductive and social norms 'gross' and just freaking out whenever they don't do TradCath peenis-in-vagoo or whatever, and I want to say I appreciate how much effort you put into those mechanisms and explaining how it affects their societies even if most players now react by slamming their hands on the 'Exterminatus' button.
>>
>>5922043
Well that's a lot of text.

I do have a question though - did you ever have a plan to do anything with the Green Hazaar? Personally I don't miss them now that we have the originals, but they were extremely underused even before the whole genocide kerfuffle. At least we saw some Yellow and Blue characters, and the Blues got to go out honorably. But the Greens were uh..just kinda there


Sucks we didn't get to see Bluey in his old age...or much of Eoba III. He has a very notable namesake. I gained a lot of respect for Hass, but i dont think anyone will ever beat Eoba the 2nd for best supreme spot ever.
>>
>>5922048
It's not just alien biology. The Hazaar, or at least the reds, were way too gross. Aside from the fact that they're basically an entire species of gay mpreg rapists, there's also the fact that when we met them they were hedonistic nudists. The Leerays are freaky mommyfags, but no one seems to feel particularly offended by them because they're just normal dudes.
>>
>>5922043
You're wrong about this game not being about politics, though. Just saying. It's naive IMO to say
> what if the evil space naizs are actually the good guys? What if torture for the sake of torture isn't bad, as long as its against your enemies? What if forcing women into a strict hierarchy actually makes society better and our pro-feminist, pro-democracy, anti-fascist mainstream cultural zeitgeist really is the great satan?
And have characters explain why this is the truth, constantly showcase the positive effects of those policies and negative effects on the inverse, and include long tracts about why this makes objective logical sense, and thing that people from minority groups (or women, who I assume must exist SOMEWHERE on this site) won't view that as a political statement. It ceases to come across like an 'unreliable narrator' when you have the universe repeatedly (seemingly) agree with these positions and the Hegemony's assumptions never actually backfire on them or get proven false or flawed.

>there are people who ARE trying to cause a fail state
I think that's why this has happened, honestly. Some people believe they are playing a quest that, while they initially loved i, has become/been revealed as a quest about Eternally Victorious Super-Nazis Who Are Objectively Correct, and they... Don't like that. It upsets them. They want them to lose, if they can't change and get 'better', and to them it seems they are only going to get 'worse' from their understanding (more destructive and xenophobic to the extent of squandering/limiting narrative potential, I mean), and that you won't allow otherwise. Sometimes it feels like that to me. I haven't voted to sabotage the Hegemony deliberately, because I'm not a shitter and I'd just quit if I got THAT exhausted.

But I will say: the Akule prequel did very little to dispel these notions. Wrix's speech and actions that got VERY cruel and grossly violent and fetishistic without player consent or control didn't, either. We had two scenarios which to varying degrees BLATANTLY alluded to and mirrored real-life ethnic and cultural groups and real-life atrocities. /qst/ is surprisingly international and diverse, and for some people these things aren't just 'stuff that happened a long time ago over there', and they're going to recognize allusions to real-life stereotypes about them or people they love being sued SEEMINGLY objectively to justify their own extinction and react... Well, the way your Jaxtian characters would react if alien races told stories like that about THEM.

>>5922054
I DO appreciate how Hass' mask arc was handled. It was very tasteful, as genocides go, and reflected player input. I think itw as well done.

>>5922058
They're just bedbug-men. Their society had means to control and direct the warrior-caste to prevent/limit rape. Even if they didn't xenomorphs and space-pirates are cool, so xenomorph space-pirates can be cool. Also, people WERE chapped about the Leeray.
>>
>>5922041
>It's easy to say that “you shouldn't be trying to get that kind of experience from a game on /qst/”, but I feel like its' easiest for me to explore these things in the context of a forum game and to share these insights, which I have found to be very deep and meaningful to me, with others in this quest.
I agree with this completely. These sorts of things are rare to see, and an exploration of things that would be banned in most other places makes the story novel.

>>5922043
>there are people who ARE trying to cause a fail state. I'm not sure why, but whenever they continue to post in that way it only makes me feel worse.
Unfortunately that is one of the issues with having a place where there is little to no censorship. You already mentioned this, but they usually just go away or get bored after a while.

>Thanks for reading and playing the game so far and I hope you come back for the future threads in all their autistic glory. <3
I'll be looking forward to them.
We love you too Bananas (no homo)
>>
>>5922065
Xenomorphs are wild monsters, and their reproduction, while brutal, isn't as nearly as sexual as the hazaar. The fact that the Reds were about the most disgusting people in the galaxy outside of the Aristocrats (original Hazaar) and the Worms (literal psychic parasites) didn't help either

Also, people got disgusted by the Leeray, but you didn't see people go full exterminatus mode on them. They just thought they were gross.
>>
>>5922074
Look, we both have our opinions and that's okay, but the xenomorphs are literally designed by an artist obsessed with genitals as giant black phallus-monsters who face-rape their targets until they give violent birth to a fetus who rapidly matures into another giant black rape-cock monster. They're initially introduced as infesting a ship with a klaxon based on a woman's screams. We can disagree about whether hazaar (or just red hazaar and aristos, even) are salvageable as a sympathetic alien species, but saying the xenomorphs aren't racial or sexual is about as plausible as saying Redmanes aren't based on Blacks or Greenfaces on Jews. Let's be honest about these things.
>>
>>5922028
>This is honestly become my biggest pet peeve, as though you are trying to optimize out any possible interesting character development or conflict
I don't think recognizing that a lot of Suprememe'd have severe me talk health issues that would ha e bene identified for treatment in most functionally systems is the same as wanting to "optimize away conflict."
>>
>>5922079
Anon, Xenomorphs may have some innuendo designs, but Hazaar have literal spike dicks. It's not just "oh it looks like a uterus ooh", it's literally just a dick.
>>
>>5922034
>explaining why the Hazaar cannot be integrated into Jaxtian society,
But they totally were for decades. A Supreme even honored and thanked them. One Hazaar writing some book that led to a bunch of Monkeys behaving like violent assholes doesn't prove Hazaar can't exist in The Hegemony
>>
>>5922034
Also I disagree with the idea that "Make your own mask"makes no dramatic or narrative sense.
Especially given Wrix's identity crisis as a Blonde there are several angles you could have played for Wrix wanting to do his own Mask. Even something as simple as "There can only be one mask for Akule, I will make my own in honor of his but only one is worthy of wearing the icon of Akule."
>>
File: necro.jpg (245 KB, 1200x771)
245 KB
245 KB JPG
>>5922083
Anon, it's not innuendo. It's intent. It's on purpose.

>>5922084
This also seems true, and the idea that they're inexpertly incompatible (or that this is repeatedly presented as if it's objective truth and never really undermined or subverted) is what I think leads to the impression that this universe is a political fantasy, among other things. It feels that way to me, sometimes, as I said. I just have a high tolerance for 'objectionable politics' in my fiction.
>>
>>5922034
>So instead the HVS would be a new nation of “aliens” you can interact with, but they'd be weaker then you and easier to manipulate. So you could bully them, or tax them, or try to use them as a shield- but you are also still a protectorate nation. So if they got into a fight with the pirates or Esaal you'd need to back them up because they would get destroyed otherwise, or if the Consortium were doing too much business you'd have to try and do your spycraft and secure your tariffs and tributes and such you get from the HVS, etc
This seems more interesting and entertaining than what we got. (Again that's not on you BQM.)
>>
>>5922041
>Space Monkey Quest
>Not About Politics
Press X to doubt .
>>
>>5922081
Yeah, I understand not wanting everything to be solved, but there's a difference between "The hegemony should have zero issues whatsoever!" And "How the fuck did they not see this shit coming a mile away, how has this man not been given meds and why is he a Supreme candidate when he has the mental stability of a crackhead" (looking at you, Agori)

I mean I understand the Hegemony has a lot of value on being top ape, but there's a difference between being masculine and being a bipolar schizo.

I mean, the example is old, but that's when the mental health thing first came up. And that's what people are complaining. The Three-mind observes people their entire life, every singular moment of it. It should be able to tell when someone has a few screws missing.
>>
>>5922088
>is what I think leads to the impression that this universe is a political fantasy
This reminds me of someone on qtg saying that the best quests consist of your passion, your political fantasy, and your fetish.
>>
>>5922041
I think it's fine to want to explore those themes in a /qst/ (or any form of art for that matter) though I do find it hilarious that you posted an image saying Monkequest is not political and the wrote multiple paragraphs about how it was designed to explore political topics.
But just like how you see people glomp into Roarsharch or Bateman or Homelander or Walter Walt, or Tyler Durden, doing a quest like this is going to attract the same time of energy you talk about hating on /pol/ and the like. Which really isn't on you (that much). You just gave people the gun, you didn't make them shoot it.
I don't really like Monkequest anymore but that's mostly becaus quests is a collaborative artform and the voters are often just as much a part of the experience as the QM . Just like with almost every TV show comic or movie I watch, I have problems with the creators but I REALLY have problems with the fanbase.
>>
>>5922042
>You can't just invade anyone or push forward every social policy because in real life it doesn't work that way either. Our elected officials and “elites” in real life have their hands tied in actually fixing the problems we deal with on a daily basis way more then we want to admit. If you ran the fantasy space empire you would have the same restrictions even beyond the fact you are THE Supreme Ruler, and can do anything, you actually have a very limited set of things you can do, and your ability to predict what these decisions will lead to is also very limited. This is one of the reasons why I wanted to do hidden outcomes so much during the course of the quest, from small to big decisions.
You say this, and here is where I will actually give some critique. You say you want realistic challenges for the Hegemony but for the most part the quest feels like it's on easy mode. We have won every sat we fought and the worst knockback we have held was from *another Monke*. Every alien race we have encountered has been defeated, destroyed and/or conquered. Playing the Hegemony feels like we are doing the space version of the big space filling empire. Distance for genocide aside, I would think it would be more interesting or challenging if the purges if Wrix and Hass were struggles instead of forcing conclusions. Yuan's master plan was a multi arc Leilani to assault us, but on the macro scale the Hegemony came out of it STRONGER.
You talk about the issue of Civ games not having to worry about happiness because it unrealistically let's you make your citizens very happy very easily. But your game also makes happiness not an issue because The Hegemony doesn't care about happiness, and any negative consequences of an unhappy populace we're either minor or impossible.
It's one thing to play as the Big Bad Evil Emperor Overlord but if we are going to be bad guys, I don't want to be "boring" bad guys.
The Consortium are also assholes but I find them more interesting because the politics, different racial and social Dynamics and actual military struggles I think would provide a more engaging experience than an endless wave of alien enemies we beat down.
>>
Echoing
>>5922065
It's fine for you to say you want to have a quest that explores playing as "the bad guys." But I think if you are going to do that, you are going to have to accept that some people want the bad guys to loose. I don't think everyone who wants the Hegemony to take some lumps are doing it out of spite or malice or "trolling." They are doing it for the same reason people rioted for L to catch Light or who wanted late season Dexter to get caught.
I'm doing a quest right now where I give the voters options for the MC go down darker paths and if that happens and the player respond by wanting the MC to suffer consequences for that action, I don't take that as an insult, but just another later of engagement with the game .
>>
>>5922099
I was once reading a thread about an article on sudowrite, a website that uses AI to complete pages of text for authors. Good read.
The author who was using ti was getting dragged hardcore but one person said something like
>If you don't like what you're writing so much you have an AI do it for you, why are you writing it? If you don't enjoy writing it, why do you think someone would enjoy reading it?
And it struck me. Sometimes while writing it feels like a chore because there is stuff I have to put in but after reading that comment I was like "Wait, if I don't like writing this, why am i writing this?"
Good stuff.
>>
>>5922043
Don't let the hollaback girls get you down. There's some amazingly fucked up people who are pissed that you are offering fictional space to fictional charcters who hold ideals and values that aren't theirs and damn if their level of persistance doesn't make me paranoid but I'm trying not to take the bait and just enjoy the game.
>>
>>5922043
I think it's pretty unrealistic to say a thread about explicitly political themes isn't political because you consider them "the way things are."
Your quest is about running an Empire with explicit anti-capitalist, ethnosupremacist and masculine supremacist philosophy as founded by someone whose beliefs were taken straight out of a Supreme Gentlemen's notebook.
I don't think there is any reasonable analysis of Monkequest as a work of art that doesn't recognize its core political themes.
>>
File: 1557632327527.gif (1023 KB, 184x141)
1023 KB
1023 KB GIF
>>5922028
>>5922031
>>5922034
>>5922041
>>5922042
>>5922043
>>
>>5922042
I mean your game IS pretty political, I don’t really like the politics spam and endless arguing that comes with it, but at the core this game is definitely political.


I don’t mean to project anything on to you, but I think it’s just that it’s your goal for this quest that make you think that it isn’t. Throughout the game, while most choices have consequences, there is an objectively better choice that can be made a lot of the time, and those choices usually fall along on certain ideological line because it’s your goal to explore those ideological “what-ifs.”

Which is why finishing Hass’s narrative arc satisfyingly and not genociding the Hazaar was the “hard” choice to make in my opinion, because genocide and the resources it would bring the Hegemony was just straight up materially better.

I don’t mean this a dig against you, but portraying strict-hierarchal gender roles, and being literal space Nazi’s as the objectively good thing is always going to be political. The act of making it the best outcome is political in itself lol.

An unexplored or rarely explored concept doesn’t mean it’s not political.
>>
>>5922042
>>5922043
>"They are simply things that are."

You're doing the classic it's not political because I agree with it thing m8. You don't see much shitters from the other crowd because they're getting validated and rewarded because you made it "simply the way thing are." This game is political get over it.
>>
Thanks for the context and adressing all those points Bananas
>>
>>5922042
I think you are literally the only person engaged with this quest who thinks it isn't political. It is probably the most explicitly political quest on the board.
>>
>>5922065
>>5922163
>>5922247
>>5922253
>Realizes that a certain political viewpoint considered repugnant by pretty much everyone is the only way to survive and thrive in this universe which is supposed to be very close to the real world
>Notices how even the monke characters often dislike or refuse this, but are forced to accept it because of forces outside of their control
>Multiple large story arcs ended with a choice to embrace fatalistic truth or struggle impotently against it
>Doesn't piece together this may be intentional and simple accepts a surface-level reading of the material that this must be a political power fantasy of the author despite numerous times being told this is not the case

Alright, that's it, you're getting more Akule next thread.

>>5922043
Anyway for everyone else- thanks for reading the thread! I'm a bit bored so let's do some questions. Feel free to answer as honestly as you like, I do read all the feedback I get and consider it very useful as well as fun to read.
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
>>
>>5922282
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
Yes. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I like the tree, possibilities, and "secret stuff" unlockable.
There are better or worst outcome that are non trivial. Loved it.
>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
You're doing a great job at characterising them, so no.
>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
Both is good.
Ideally, next thread :
>We have a span of "interresting" planets from the HVS, chose one or two to focus on.
>We have a Starchart to explore. Maybe find Space Whales, get them to our system, purge them of worms, and create a Whale Paradise system/Cruise
>We work on integrating Swalli and Vetrucki on our empire. More Migrators? Synergize with Spacesharts.
>Thanks to the rule of Hass and the focus back on culture and art, we even get a tad bit of spirituality for our starseers

Anons, future is BRIGHT for monkeykind
>>
>>5922282
oh, uh, what happened to wife choosing?
>>
>>5922282
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
I'm not super attached to it, but it was fun enough. It might be even more fun if there's less of a military focus/hard time cap on it like there was for the Stand.

>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
No.

>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
I mean, time is limited. We've spent so long away from the main quest, and have so many side threads doing deep dives on POVs, that I'm fine with the main thread being more zoomed out.

>>5922296
Hass already had a waifu and I don't know if Bantam ruled for long enough. It'd be fun to go back to that for the next guy, though.
>>
>>5922117
That's pretty much what I'm thinking. To keep writing and drawing consistently you have to enjoy it, or at least you have to have a reason to keep going.

>>5922282
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
Yes, it was interesting.
>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
No, the differences between Wrix and Hass are evidence of it.
>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
I personally like the civ aspect more, especially now that we've ascended to being a major player. But a break to look at the individual lives is also fun. I mean Dreams was a pretty nice thread.
>>
>>5922282
Where did I say it was a political power fantasy?

I'm saying making a world (especially ones that is supposed to be close to the real world) where that is blatantly the only option IS political in itself.

Just because you show some Monke's being sad about it doesn't change the underlying message that making that political viewpoint being the only way forward, and continuing forward on that path portrays.

You could ask 10 anons and 9 would think the quest is political QM, I don't know why you're griping that stating the quest is political is a shallow reading of it.

>Do you want to see the research minigame more
-Sparingly, it's a good gimmick but I can see it easily running out of steam and feeling like filler between narrative votes if used too much.

>Do you think the supreme rulers are stating to feel the same?
-Bantam was kind of boring and samey, but Hass definitely not
>Scope
-I like the more individual parts personally.
>>
>>5922282
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
For certain events, especially when we're facing a 'crisis' situation. When we were focused on preparing for defending the stand it made perfect sense to narrow options to a definitive tech tree; though when a immediate crisis is not impending it might make more sense to allow a wider range.

>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
No. Hass has been different even from the other two Supremes who shared his bloodline, Bantam's moderate-Alpha mindset was different to Agori's extreme-Alpha.


>>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
A mix of the two is best, I feel.
>>
>>5922282
Yes, QM, making a universe where your particular political ideology or belief-system is the only way to survive and 'just works' is a power fantasy. When any attempt to step away from it is hammered in as wrong and doomed by failures and length speeches about how your beliefs about the universe are just how it is, and the characters the players have directed to deviate from it are foolish or naive to have done so, that is a moral tract. You might protest that "but that's just how the universe is", but you made this universe, so if one of its laws is "agreeing with Hitler and the Unabomber makes you incredibly powerful and successful, because they're right" then that's not an apolitical position even or ESPECIALLY if it's how you feel about the real world we all live in as well.

This is especially true is the inevitable solution that one can only "embrace or struggle impotently against" is also, in your own opinion, "a powerful and thrilling concept many men dream of having the ability to achieve in one way or another" and "LITERALLY ME".

It's a game and universe where the winning move is to ape (heh) your political opinions. Saying it's apolitical is like saying Jack Chick is apolitical. I'm sure he thinks that since he's portraying the objective truth of the world, it isn't, but anyone who isn't the same brand of fundamentalist Christian knows it blatantly is.

>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
It does help capture the 4X vibes.

>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
No. You've done aver good job of making each feel distinct from one another.

>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
Keep the zoom out with maybe an occasional dive into another character, like an overseer or planetary governor to direct key projects or establish local cultural movements.
>>
If you depict something I don't like as anything other than a 1-dimensional stereotype that exists only as a group of evil villains to get punched in the face then you MUST be a part of that group AND be advocating for it. PROPAGANDA told me so, and if you disagree then you are guilty of Thoughtcrime!

This is sarcasm and its pathetic that I have to specify that.
>>
File: file.png (611 KB, 1280x720)
611 KB
611 KB PNG
>>5922028
>It was this write-in in particular that made me realize I really had no more interest in allowing them.
That is just about the worst example i could have thought of. Maybe if it was about the titty city in the reverse cyoa quest, i would have understood but this is retarded.

Do you just think that every opinion that isn't yours is fake? When people voted for this, they werent saying "haha, i'll just choose this so there's no downsides", they were saying they rejected the dichotomy and believed that the difficulties faced by these people were different and couldn't be merely rated as 'harder' or 'easier'

If i'm gonna be honest, if you don't like it when people choose something you disagree with, it sounds less like you want a 'choose your own adventure' and more like you want to perform a soliloquy and then have people applaud you.
>>
>>5922282
Yes.
No.
Zoom out.
>>
>>5922282
It doesn't matter if it is a political power fantasy or not it's still political.

>For exmaple; what if the evil space naizs are actually the good guys? What if torture for the sake of torture isn't bad, as long as its against your enemies? What if forcing women into a strict hierarchy actually makes society better and our pro-feminist, pro-democracy, anti-fascist mainstream cultural zeitgeist really is the great satan? (Degenerate capitalist era), etc.
These questions, which you say you built the quest around, are political questions. You designing a world in which engaging with political beliefs and actions that are considered taboo irl are often the correct choices is creating a political scenario. Multiple votes in this thread have presented the voters with clear political questions, which is why it's not surprising that political parties have formed.
You just brought up Akule, whose prequel quest has several explicitly political rants.
I ask sincerely, what is your definition of "political?" Because I am not aware of one that Monkequest would not fall under.
>>
>>5922282
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
No, I prefer the more narrative updates and the minigame slows those down.
>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
No, the past few have all felt pretty idiosyncratic. Wrix, Hass and Cal all felt pretty different
>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
I prefer going back and forth .
>>
>>5922282
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
Eh, not sure. It was neat to have some idea of what we could choose between and what they might expand into, but the previous system was fun too. Also, the "tech tree" system might be hard to scale into the whole of our science progress rather than limited to small scale military improvements in a limited time frame.

>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
Not in the slightest.

>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
Probably keep the zoom out view. It's neat to have some zoomed in parts but it only feels appropriate to zoom out when you're the space emperor and the empire gets bigger.
>>
I want us to get into the esoteric shit more if we zoom out, thats a lot of divide amongst our empire even united under the same banner, I hope we get some more phenotypical Monkes/Swalls/Vetuckers with our different planets we have on deck
>>
>>5922614
We've still got a lot of secrets of Starsight we need to unlock. We captured a worm, so that might help speed it a long.

>I hope we get some more phenotypical Monkes/Swalls/Vetuckers with our different planets we have on deck
I just hope we get a lot of swalls and vetuckers at all. They're very interesting species. With the Hazaar cluster free, we don't have any excuse about lebensraum either.

Ideally, we can even restore their cultures up to a point...an hegemony-approved version of them that is.
>>
>>5922741
These seem like fresh capsule babies so hopefully we can give em a death korpesque slideshow so they can integrate themselves into the hegemony, honestly this will be a huge thing historically for Hass as supreme, genociding the worst races in the hegemony while also finding and possibly restoring the best ones Hass is going to get a nickname for sure and Idk if he should necessarily be an unspeakable, he has donned the mask for genocide yeah but he really made it his bitch rather than the mask him
>>
>>5922790
> so they can integrate themselves into the hegemony,
We'll probably need to give them a wide berth and maybe even some extra clones to ensure a safe population.

I mean, Hass is gonna have to go full Abe-san to populate those hazaar worlds anyway. It actually gives me some rather interesting ideas for what we could do with the hazaar cluster.
>>
>>5922438
Nobody's saying that. Structuring the entire universe and vote results so that your options are "do things that this philosophy advocates and win" or "diverge from that philosophy and struggle in vain against the simple reality that this philosophy is right"... That is a bit propaganda-ish, and THAT seems to be the reality of it, down to disallowing things that attempt to complexify this dichotomy or approach it from any other philosophical/political angle. This is why other quests on the board with 'villainous' or 'illiberal' main characters don't typically face the same extended debates and entrenched camps.

>>5922561
>I ask sincerely, what is your definition of "political?" Because I am not aware of one that Monkequest would not fall under.
I think the QM sees it as a division between philosophical musing and 'politics of the day'. The problem is that any time you apply a philosophy (even an esoteric one like gnosticism) to how societies are structured, how groups interact, and how leaders behave... That's political. It's political philosophy.

>>5922790
>>5922741
I think it could be a good legacy of Bantam and Eoba II to try to sue them as a way to teach and study different combat methodologies, as well as to perhaps farm them for beneficial mutations we can integrate into the Jaxtian eugenics program. Maybe treat them a bit like the Blondes on Jaxt.
>>
>>5922840
Do you mean give them a genetics program of their own? Because sadly anon, neither Vetuckers nor Swalli can interbreed with Jaxtians. If they could, we would have probably found some Half-Monkey son of Eoba.
>>
>>5922848
Not interbreed, but artificially be integrated into Jaxtian genomes. We already have done that repeatedly, recall, with the suspension gene, the inner ear augmentation, and the Alpha size/strength upgrade. If new advantageous mutations emerge in the reborn Swalli or Vetuckers, we can integrate those, too.
>>
>>5922028
Vetuckers, too?

The implications of this are even more Major. The most important one being: Is there also a Andoen alien site on Jaxt? And if so, what sort of Jaxtians is that site preserving?
>>
>>5922880
Wait, you're right. There might be one. Are these Andoen actually an common ancestor? A precursor?
>>
If the Xenos were reintegrated into the Hegemony they could be fully integrated rather than being put onto separate planets.
>>
>>5922901
Nah, thats extremely inefficient. If you remember well, Jaxtians don't like horizontally long buildings, Jake Berax himself was feeling fucked up having to go through one. At the same time, i doubt a Vetucker could use Jaxtian infrastructure that relies on climbing. And I haven't even mentioned the Swalli.

No, we'll need to give them their own cities at the least.
>>
>>5922915
Jale*
>>
File: 1622855289613.png (404 KB, 1400x990)
404 KB
404 KB PNG
>>5922883
A precursor for sure, maybe even a designer, but probably not a common ancestor. The Jaxtians, Vetuckers, and Swalli are all very different biologically, being essentially arboreal primates, four-nostriled grazing ungulates, and extremely-derived amphibious fish-beings respectively. We even know what pre-Jaxtian ancestors look like.
>>
>>5922938
That's what I meant by precursor. We found the remains of the Andoen in three different planets, all in the same cluster. What are the chances there's one in Jaxt?
>>
>>5922938
Fun fact, the original Space Monke Quest was going to be about lemurs instead. The first two filenames of the first thread was "space lemur" instead of space monkeys. Not sure why they were labelled like that since I pretty much always thought of doing monkeys, except for the "first draft" of the quest, which was on /tg/ and about ferrets instead.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/34459356/#34459356 (couldn't find the first one)

I've always been embarrassed about this one since I flaked it, but it was years and years ago and most quests on /tg/ were kinda shit. This was my one and only quest I ever ran on /tg/ which served as a testing ground for what would later be Space Monke Quest. Enjoy the lore.
>>
>>5922973
>Jaxtian original lifespan was 60, but got to 100
>Vetuckers live to around 40-50, so could theoretically get to somewhere around 90 or more
>Their ears never stop growing
We must give them life extensions and find out just how long their ears can get.
>>
>>5922973
>Space Monke's genesis lays ten years ago
Huh. Fascinating!
>>
>>5922973
Neat. Maybe the Space Ferrets are still out there.
>>
You know, I wonder, what exists beyond the borders of the Consortium and Esaal? Since we're finally considered a real nation, we should be able to learn.

Basically, what happens if we zoom out? Are there any far off states we've never heard of? I doubt that this is all that there is.
>>
>>5922840
>I think the QM sees it as a division between philosophical musing and 'politics of the day.
But even by that definition the quest would be political, because the Akule prequel had multiple speeches that were direct analogs to IRL current political issues.
>>
>>5922915
Do it Zootopia style where the cities are designed in such a way where there are accomodations and regions for different body types.
>>
File: bold for emphasis.png (80 KB, 1873x443)
80 KB
80 KB PNG
>>5923703
I agree, obviously, but I'm just going off of what I've read the QM post and my best attempts to interpret it.

>>5923704
Zootopia itself shows how complicated and precarious that balance can be. Now imagine it in a R-rated setting, and in light of things QM has said and the way the Unspeakable prequel portrayed multicultural society. Do you really think the creative vision which gave us the Redmane rapist plot-beat would adapt a 'Zootopian' setting in such a way that an event like the moon-howler conspiracy would not have ended with ethnic pogroms and a speech about why predators and prey cannot share a space?

I think if we want to avoid another re-extermination of Swalli and Vetuckers, we'll have to segregate them.
>>
>>5921956
by not knowing what the word independent means
>>
>>5923706
the only reason why different groups inside a species really have rules of war or dont genocide each other completely is the fact they can mix.
if you are a separate species that dont mix when you are on the backfoot competing for the exact same niche you are going to keep being on the backfoot until you die. it was what happened with the neanderthals and even then they could breed with us.

and on politics on a interstellar scale we have such big timespans that unstable political stances not we would be able to take up a stance that turns population growth negative or even.

oh Vetuck we got along pretty well before the rebellion stuff they could get jobs and such.

swall would be interesting as they operate in a separate niche could make for decent underwater engineers and welders.
>>
>>5923719
I don't disagree that a cooperative society composed of those three species living and working together is theoretically possible or could be cool. However, it is not "considered repugnant by pretty much everyone", and since this is a quest exploring situations where we are "forced to accept [repugnant solutions] because of forces outside of their control," and we must "embrace fatalistic truth or struggle impotently against it," I do not think that will succeed. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.
>>
>>5923706
God Akule was such a cringe /pol/tard.
>>
>>5923726
its a certainty the other species will get pissed and rebel a bit but we do need to learn to subsume and rule to interact with a wider galaxy.

i wonder how long until our population would flatline under feminism humanity has only tried it recently and it seems to make population growth abysmal and worse with every generation. but also our economy is engineered enough we will possibly not fall into the thing where both need to work fulltime/overtime while doubling the labor pool and halving the value.
>>5922282
i would say all of the supremes have been very unique and varied.
bit unsure over the mini game but it does have a 4x feeling to it.
zoom in and zoom out we ARE the ruler of a giant space empire so we probably should do that.
>>
>>5923732
The quest takes place in a universe where his views are objectively correct.

>>5923739
You can chalk population flatlining up to feminism, but unless you consider South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malta, and China to be some of the most feminist nations on modern Earth, it does not seem to be the main factor. However, I think it's safe to say that feminism would be a disaster for the Hegemony since one of the laws of this quest's universe is that "forcing women into a strict hierarchy actually makes society better and our pro-feminist, pro-democracy, anti-fascist mainstream cultural zeitgeist really is the great satan."
>>
>>5923751
>South Korea
Anon they are literally run by a feminist cult. And I mean an actual religious cult.
>>
>>5923752
Yeah, South Korea's real wacky at its national level sometimes.

I'm not going to debate whether feminist policy and culture correlates to total fertility rate in a country or whether it's the sole or main determining facto. I think that's unlikely, given similar fertility rates of (for instance) the UAE and Germany or Sweden, Iran, Brunei, and the USA. I could be wrong, though.

In the universe of SSMR, feminism would be ruinous to any empire which isn't structured around low-aggression males like the Leeray, though. I think I'm right in assuming/inferring that.
>>
Cringe brah.

Nobody wants to hear it.
>>
>>5923762
Post something else we can talk about then
>>
>>5923751
>The quest takes place in a universe where his views are objectively correct.
This has zero bearing on what I said.
>>
File: 1473106922592.png (73 KB, 353x321)
73 KB
73 KB PNG
>>5923762
>nobody's engaging with our philosophical undercurrents or themes on their own terms or attempting to reckon with the constants of the setting
>you are unhappy
>anons discuss how to progress the Hegemony in light of the setting as presented, analyzing the way the quest is structured to better direct the Hegemony to a better future while still being fascists
>you are unhappy

>>5923770
I'm just saying that playing the quest means trying to see things and plan outcomes based on whats someone like Akule thinks would result from any given policy.
>>
>>5923772
>I'm just saying that playing the quest means trying to see things and plan outcomes based on whats someone like Akule thinks would result from any given policy.
Ok? That also has zero bearing. I literally do not care.
>>
>>5923776
Reasonable.
>>
>>5923719
This is such a cynical and edgelord interpretation of sociology
>>
>>5923752
How is Church of Eternal Life a "feminist cult?" It's clearly a cult but where are you getting the feminist bit from?
>>
>>5924175
I think he's referring to another cult, the Daughters of Megalia or something. Ultrafeminist, extremist shit going on, even going as far as making a (now-impeached) woman president their puppet, for a short while at least.

But yeah, when cults are involved, shit gets wack scary yo.
>>
>>5923762
BQM, as another QM who also has mental health struggles I would like to offer some advice. Feel free to ignore this post if you don't want it.
Any artist can struggle with audience expectations, reactions to their work, and the pressures those things cause. It's easy to feel like you are performing for a reward that will never come. As a QM I think this effect is stronger because our art is collaborative and is a constant back-and-forth with the audience. The lines between the art and the audience are at their most blurred.
I have seen several posts of yours that suggest you are hypersensitive to the opinions and actions of your readers, whether they "get" the message you are trying to get across if they are playing the game in a certain way, if they are discussing your art in a way you are comfortable. Sometimes you've lashed out at the audience because if this. Many times playfully, (and occasionally more severely) but done enough times I think its fair to be concerned.
Internalizing what your audience does is very taxing on mental health for creators, especially if you get caught on a treadmill trying to alter your work to get the results you want. Listening to feedback is fine when it leads to self-analysis and improvement but getting in a never-ending chase to win the approval of readers you subtly resent is a recipe for disaster.
I suggest you use this break time to think about why you do Monkequest, what you get out of it, and what you see your readers getting out of it. And try to remember that we are al here for fun, and if you aren' enjoying this, maybe its time to stop.
>>
>>5924186
The impeached president was Park Geun-hye, who was under influence from Choi Soon-sil of the Church of Eternal Life.
"Megalia" is a South Korean feminist website that later became a catch all term for feminism seen as extreme . As far as I know, they aren't associated with any cult.
It seems like whenever
>>5923752
Got their information from either accidentally or purposely merged two separate organizations.
>>
>>5924209
>>5924186
>The impeached president was Park Geun-hye, who was under influence from Choi Soon-sil of the Church of Eternal Life.
>"Megalia" is a South Korean feminist website that later became a catch all term for feminism seen as extreme . As far as I know, they aren't associated with any cult.
The 8 Goddesses/ 8 Heavenly Fairies/8 women (8선녀) are an actual ultrafeminist cabal in South Korea.
I've heard from South Koreans that they supported things like Megalia. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.
>>
>>5922282
I mean most of the reasons it comes across as a political power fantasy is that a lot of the choices that fall along your "fatalistic truth" spectrum don't seem like the only option AT ALL. It'd be one thing if the decisions were actually the only option left to us... something forced onto us by the universe for the sake of the Hegemony. But rather than a universal rule it seems more like plot contrivances and rash and emotional decisions that motivate some of the most cruel and unusual aspects you want to explore.

Wrix and Akrule come off as genuinely batshit insane, murderers that revel in the carnage for the sake of it, and the genocide that Wrix committed while you seem to be saying was overall beneficial, came across as a costly and irreversible mistake by a cruel tyrant. You're "truth" doesn't come across as "truth" at all, unless you already had decided or knew beforehand that it was literally the only way apparently. It's comes across as less of developed a rule of the setting, and more of a giant railroad from the QM, and a desire for carnage from the playerbase.

If you take away the genocide is always good rule, do you really not see a way we could have integrated other races besides the Hazaar? As a player who's only interacted with the setting using IC knowledge and not the OOC knowledge you use, does that make sense that there could be ultimately only one outcome?

So we end up being rewarded for these decisions that really don't make any sense in the moment, or in Hass' case are extremely limited between decisions to where the narrow edgy one you favor is so much better than other extremely narrow struggle option it doesn't make sense to try the other.

You're putting blame on the player's part for not putting the legwork to make Space Nazi's seem like a logical outcome, and definitely didn't do enough make them seem like the good guys.

TLDR: It's a power fantasy because the setting isn't one where ONLY certain options you like make sense and lead to good outcomes. It's just a rule you applied to the setting without the proper background to make the rule make sense within the setting.
>>
File: pepe screen.png (558 KB, 1106x1012)
558 KB
558 KB PNG
>>5924197
>BQM, as another QM who also has mental health struggles I would like to offer some advice.
It's not that serious bro.
>>
>>5924586
damn, I saw the image number go up and thought you posted another extra art. but it was just a pepe.
>>
>>5924560
This anon is unhinged.
>>
>>5924560
You have unironic autism, don't you?
>>
>>5924672
>>5924590
>They hated them because they spoke the truth.
>>
>Do want to see the research minigame expanded into a permanent thread fixture?
It has genuine potential as a mechanic, yes!
>Do you think the Supreme Rulers are starting to feel same?
After the secretly ultraxenophotic tiny, the compassionate alpha, and the repentant egotist? No way!

>As the scope of the Hegemony has expanded, so too has the viewpoint of the main character and Quest. From managing individual planets and colonies to installer projects. Do you want to see a return to more detail on individual species or planets for more player choice or keep the zoom out view befitting our position as Space Emperor?
Considering the increasing raise of stakes, I'd say zooming out would be the best choice.

I have to agree with what others have said: even though there were times where brutality and imposition seemed to be an effective choice, it seemed more like a quick, utilitarian solution to a problem brought on by our choices, or by the jaxtians' culture, rather than because the universe seems to intrinsically cruel and a totalitarian society is the only practical solution.

And I also have to add that, if this quest has taught me any lesson, is that reaching the stars and achieving eternity feels very hollow when the people striving for it all exist to serve the state, rather than the state existing to serve them.
When every person is seen only as an asset, a tool to be measured solely by its usefulness to the nation, what is the point of lofty goals? Who is even going to benefit from them, in the end?
>>
>>5925489
Also, I might be misunderstanding but isn't telling us that the most brutal socially taboo options will be the right ones kind of giving away the game?

Can't we just pick the most racist or sexist option each time and win everything?
>>
>>5925489
>And I also have to add that, if this quest has taught me any lesson, is that reaching the stars and achieving eternity feels very hollow when the people striving for it all exist to serve the state, rather than the state existing to serve them.
>When every person is seen only as an asset, a tool to be measured solely by its usefulness to the nation, what is the point of lofty goals? Who is even going to benefit from them, in the end?
In short? The collective. Or the Supreme. Really it depends on who the leader is at the time.
I mean bro it's literally how most socialist or collectivist governments justify getting rid of individual freedoms, it's all for the greater good and stuff.
And I disagree that things aren't fulfilling. There's a dopamine hit whenever we win and coping whenever we lose. But if you're talking about things in a more philosophical way, sometimes people would rather be part of something greater than themselves instead of finding self actualization. Jaxtians are an alien species with different morals and logic to humans.

>>5926484
That's obviously not the case. Every choice has its pros and cons.
This is like saying that we win every time we pick the most liberal, democratic, and 'good' options in a realistic civ quest because liberalism has proven to be victorious irl.
>>
>>5926506
>I mean bro it's literally how most socialist or collectivist governments justify getting rid of individual freedoms, it's all for the greater good and stuff.
They usually justify that by claiming that if you follow them it will eventually lead to a state of hierarchy-free co-supremacy where everyone will live like kings, or at least have fulfilling lives of plenty wherein they feel actualized and satisfied. Most socialist/collectivist ideologies do not actively celebrate repression a degradation, instead telling those within them that these are temporary hurdles to eventually be transcended. The Hegemony has shades of this, but especially in the shadow of an Unspeakable it elevates subservience and traumatized fear-reflex to a virtue. This is unusual even for a fascist government. Few human fascists have ever openly advertised that their own people should regard them with terror rather than love. Even other Hegemonic regimes like Kinja's or Eoba II's didn't do that. It's something Akule, Wrix, and (to a lesser degree) Hass have done, which others have not during the eras in which we have had ostensible control.

>This is like saying that we win every time we pick the most liberal, democratic, and 'good' options in a realistic civ quest because liberalism has proven to be victorious irl.
his can be the case. Depends on the QM and how ideologically-rigid their understanding of the world is.
>>
>>5926506
>because liberalism has proven to be victorious irl.
t. Fukuyama
>>
>>5927010
Kek, even Fukuyama no longer believes that.



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.