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Your daysleep is restless, as it has always been since the fall of Constantinople. You relive this nightmare with more fervent lucidity than usual. Like you were there again. The moon was choked by rising tendrils of smoke. The screams of the Children of Seth running for their lives as crusaders butchered their way into the city. Trebuchets flinging death onto stone and wooden homes. Fire and blood and madness.

You look down at the scene from the balcony of the inn. You feel the fiery destruction pull you in, into rotschreck, but you resist. You recall your roots, the blood. You stand your ground against the fear. You have no need to breathe, but you breathe in deeply, dead lungs wheezing out. You are bound by the night forever.

You steel your resolve. You are a Cainite, a vampire descended from the cursed blood of Caine. You clench your fist. You are…

>Question 1: What is your name and gender:
>1. Joseph of Vienna
>2. Kalina of Damascus

>Q2: What Strata is your Clan a part of? (Choosing the Specific clan within the winning group will be in the next round of voting. Your strata gives you benefits and a flaw.)

>1. High Clans (Brujah, Cappadocian, Lasombra, Toreador, Tzimisce, Ventrue)

You recall having the best teachers, being taught the ways of the blood like a member of nobility. Intrigues were aplenty, as well as growing a power base. Your sire constantly tests you, somewhere between friend and foe.
-You gain the advantages of Status (among Cainites) and Resources.
-You gain the Carouser’s Addiction Flaw (Must feed on those who partake in your once-mortal addictions - sex and alcohol)

>2. Low Clans (Assamite, Followers of Set, Gangrel, Nosferatu, Ravnos, Tremere)

Lessons on the streets with your peers. Fighting for every drop of vitae. The High Clans look down on you, but as they play in their castles, you have actual experience. You were Embraced and then abandoned by your sire.
-You gain the advantages of Contacts (Among the Low Clans) and Allies (from mortal friends).
-You gain the Sireless Flaw (Cainites in positions of power are less likely to trust you)

>3. Bloodlines (Ahrimanes, Gargoyles, Giovani, Kiasyd, Lamiae, Salubri)

Laying low for survival, or new and on the rise, your bloodline is few of number. However, solidarity is strong among you and yours. Your sire is a good friend and supports you. They may even be your lover.
-You gain the advantages of Mentor and Herd.
-You gain the Demon-Hounded Flaw (A demonic presence follows you, appearing at odd hours. It sometimes asks for favors, repaying you in wealth and power.)


(Welcome to Vampire the Dark Ages: Athens By Night! I will be giving snippets of our character as we create them in a strange recurring dream. I will announce when voting is closed and when I begin writing. Cheers!)
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>1. High Clans (Brujah, Cappadocian, Lasombra, Toreador, Tzimisce, Ventrue)

Let's hope this one lasts more than a thread
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>>5811050

>Joseph of Vienna

>Bloodlines (Ahrimanes, Gargoyles, Giovani, Kiasyd, Lamiae, Salubri)

I honestly think Vampire is best played as one of the weirdo bloodlines
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>1. High Clans (Brujah, Cappadocian, Lasombra, Toreador, Tzimisce, Ventrue)
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>>5811050

>1. Joseph of Vienna
>2. Low Clans (Assamite, Followers of Set, Gangrel, Nosferatu, Ravnos, Tremere)
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>1. High Clans (Brujah, Cappadocian, Lasombra, Toreador, Tzimisce, Ventrue)
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>>5811050
>Joseph
>High Clans
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>>5811050
>Joseph
>High Clans
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>3. Bloodlines
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>>5811050
I salute you for embarking on a vtm quest. I have read many on this site and they are always loved.
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>1. High Clans
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>>5811050
>1. Joseph of Vienna
-You gain the Demon-Hounded Flaw (A demonic presence follows you, appearing at odd hours. It sometimes asks for favors, repaying you in wealth and power.)

Anons! Let's play as a Baali! They thrived in the Middle Ages/Dark Ages and are one of the coolest bloodlines! Also, that would explain the fear of Crusaders and the demonic presence.

Also, the baali have a great history of pretending to be other clans, especially Tremere.
Please consider this bloodline even though it was not listed.

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Baali
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>Bloodlines
High clans are overdone
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>>5811050
>2. Kalina of Damascus
>1. High Clans (Brujah, Cappadocian, Lasombra, Toreador, Tzimisce, Ventrue)
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Voting is closed! Working on update now
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>Kalina of Damascus
>High Clan

You are Kalina, hailing from the city of Damascus. Your sire brought you to Constantinople. The one who would kill you and bring you back as a Cainite. The one who would teach you the ways of the Clans both High and Low. Intrigues and the way to navigate the waters that are Cainite society. A secret world lurking just beneath the surface. Luckily you were Embraced into noble blood, afforded respect by most Cainites.

But what clan do you belong to?

>1. Brujah: Once rulers of Carthage, the Brujah see themselves as fighters and philosophers for both Cainite and mortals. They wield the Disciplines of Celerity, Potence & Presence.

>2. Cappadocian: Scholars of death, Clan Cappadocian wields necromancy, preferring their studies over politics. They are usually given advisory roles if they are part of a court. Disciplines of Auspex, Fortitude & Necromancy.

>3. Lasombra: The Clan of Night, the Lasombra see themselves as nobles clad in shadow, wielding and thriving in darkness, controlling events from behind the scenes. Disciplines of Dominate, Obtenebration & Potence.

>4. Toreador: Beauty, art, and the finer things in life - this is Clan Toreador. Social connections and showing themselves off are what Toreador strive for. Disciplines of Auspex, Celerity & Presence.

>5. Tzimisce: Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.

>6. Ventrue: Those who claim the right of princes, the Ventrue seek power and rulership in all things. All have an opinion of Clan Ventrue, and they see themselves as the highest of the Cainites. Disciplines of Dominate, Fortitude & Presence.
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>>5811357
>4. Toreador: Beauty, art, and the finer things in life - this is Clan Toreador. Social connections and showing themselves off are what Toreador strive for. Disciplines of Auspex, Celerity & Presence.
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>>5811357
>>5. Tzimisce: Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.

Please no more toreador quests.
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>>5811357
>3. Lasombra: The Clan of Night, the Lasombra see themselves as nobles clad in shadow, wielding and thriving in darkness, controlling events from behind the scenes. Disciplines of Dominate, Obtenebration & Potence.
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>>5811357

>5. Tzimisce: Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.

Let’s get weird
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>2. Cappadocian: Scholars of death, Clan Cappadocian wields necromancy, preferring their studies over politics. They are usually given advisory roles if they are part of a court. Disciplines of Auspex, Fortitude & Necromancy.
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>>5811357
>5. Tzimisce: Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.
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>>5811357
>6. Ventrue: Those who claim the right of princes, the Ventrue seek power and rulership in all things. All have an opinion of Clan Ventrue, and they see themselves as the highest of the Cainites. Disciplines of Dominate, Fortitude & Presence.
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>>5811357
>3. Lasombra: The Clan of Night, the Lasombra see themselves as nobles clad in shadow, wielding and thriving in darkness, controlling events from behind the scenes. Disciplines of Dominate, Obtenebration & Potence.
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>>5811357
>5. Tzimisce: Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.
Best clan, let’s summon some fucking demons.
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>>5811357
>Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.
Let's fleshcraft some monsters and fuck up some blood mages.
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>>5811357
>5. Tzimisce: Claiming to be the oldest of clans, Tzimisce rules over Eastern Europe as classical vampires. They are paying for their isolationism via the usurping Tremere, fueling the fires of the War of Princes. Disciplines of Animalism, Auspex, Vicissitude.

Flesh cathedral is my favorite character in WoD
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Voting is now closed!

And I was not surprised Tzimisce won.

Updating now!
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>Tzimisce

You are Kalina of Damascus, a member of Clan Tzimisce. And you must escape the burning city of Constantinople. You exit the manor, walking with determination. Running would do no good - it would not do as a member of a High Clan, the eldest clan of them all.

The smell of death and blood permeate the air. You go over the cityscape in your head, ducking under abandoned bazaar tents and through alleyways. Echoes of battle resound up from the outer city below. You have time before the crusaders break into this district.

As you ponder your route of escape, two burly men approach, swords and mugs in their hands. You can smell the sweet scent of alcohol on their breathe. Bizarre. You distinctly don’t recall these men from previous iterations of this dream…

“The city’s at an end, lass,” one says, grinning his gnarly teeth. “Let’s have some fun!”

They move in fast, upon you already. But you are faster. You dance around their blades, placing your palm on the neck of the first. You rouse the blood within you, willing a bone to pierce up through the man’s torso. You pull the bone as the first man collapses, screaming and bleeding out. You turnabout to clash bone with blade, disarming the second man.

You leap upon him, sinking your fangs into his neck. Delicious, delectable blood. It flows over your lips and down your throat.

>Vitae is a resource that you gain upon drinking from mortals or animals. You can spend Vitae on abilities that will be described when they become relevant. If your Vitae reaches 0/10, you will frenzy.
>You gain 1 Will. Your Will is currently 1/10.
>Will is a resource that you gain at the start of every night, during interaction with certain entities and in situations where you experience victory or self-reflection. You can spend Will on abilities that will be described when they become relevant.

The drunkard’s flagon falls onto a nearby fire. It suddenly blazes up, getting too close. You grit your teeth, recalling your Road to keep your Beast from going mad.

>What is your Road? (Your Road’s Aura gives bonus to certain rolls.)
Heaven (Aura: Holiness. You receive a bonus whenever interacting with those of your faith.)
Humanity (Humane. You connect with mortals easier than other Cainites, getting a social bonus. Most Tzimisce look down on followers of this Road.)
Kings (Command. Taking charge and exuding confidence can be felt in others when they’re around you.)
Metamorphosis (Inhumanity. You’ve shed your mortal-ness and receive bonuses to intimidation and menacing others.)
Sin (Temptation. You can see, seek out, and manipulate the desires of others easier.)
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>>5811734

>Metamorphosis (Inhumanity. You’ve shed your mortal-ness and receive bonuses to intimidation and menacing others.)

As a Tzimisce this is really the only option
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>>5811734
>Kings (Command. Taking charge and exuding confidence can be felt in others when they’re around you.)
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>>5811734
>Kings (Command. Taking charge and exuding confidence can be felt in others when they’re around you.)
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>>5811734
>Sin (Temptation. You can see, seek out, and manipulate the desires of others easier.)
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>>5811734
>Kings (Command. Taking charge and exuding confidence can be felt in others when they’re around you.)
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>>5811734
Metamorphosis (Inhumanity. You’ve shed your mortal-ness and receive bonuses to intimidation and menacing others.)
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>>5811734
>>Metamorphosis (Inhumanity. You’ve shed your mortal-ness and receive bonuses to intimidation and menacing others.)

Given the highly traditional nature of the clan and the time period, I feel this option is most in character though not the smartest if we want to be stealthy. Although this path is the second most flexible in what we can do. The main thing is balancing our inhumanity with the literal need to blend in. We could try and go for an inhumanly beautiful look rather than the more common alien/draconic appearance.

Alternatively, this road is the best one in case we want to go for an androgynous look. I wonder how Sascha Vykos is doing.
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>>5811734
>Kings (Command. Taking charge and exuding confidence can be felt in others when they’re around you.)
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>>5811734
>Sin (Temptation. You can see, seek out, and manipulate the desires of others easier.)
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>>5811734
>>Metamorphosis (Inhumanity. You’ve shed your mortal-ness and receive bonuses to intimidation and menacing others.)
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>>5811734
>Kings (Command. Taking charge and exuding confidence can be felt in others when they’re around you.)
Having others turn to us as a source of authority seems less situational than making them afraid of us.
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The Road of Kings has narrowly won!

Voting is now closed, and an update will be up soon.
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You stand fast, backing away calmly from the fire as one of your blood should. Thricely so, as you walk the Road of Kings. You are better than the Low Clans, cowering before a fire, even as a city falls to siege around you.

Fixing your cloak, you resume your stream of thought. Escape. Ancient contingencies lie beneath the city, where some of your clan dwell and sleep their days away. You find a nearby entrance to the necropolis, curling up your nose at the thought of vermin running about you in the darkness. You navigate down, down, down, old sconces and the moon lighting your way. It reeks of stagnation, soil, and runoff. You pass a few cisterns, the smell making you clutch your hand around your face. You gag, thanking the higher powers you aren’t in the sewers proper, swimming in filth with rats and Nosferatu.

You stand at an intersection of the necropolis. Two propped up steel coffins to the left, one to the right, and one hanging by shining chains above. This is it. They all lead out of the city, depositing you miles away. Each path tests if you are a Childe of Caine, but it is not as simple as dribbling a bit of blood and going along your merry way. Those gifts must be used.

On the left is the simplest. A slab of bloodstone, impenetrable to all tools, weapons and Disciplines, must be lifted for you to pass under it. You recall the tale that it was brought here by a Cainite after the Flood, the stone either from the Second or First City, you cannot recall precisely.

The middle path, with its hanging coffin to greet you, eventually leads to what is bluntly dubbed a talking door. It apparently requires the proper etiquette and a good conversation for it to open for a Cainite.

The right hand path calls for one with good memory and logic. Glyphs and sigils must be memorized, formulae hashed out, and an answer provided to the stones.

Which path will you choose?

>Left will require a Physical roll
>Middle will require a Social roll
>Right will require a Mental roll

>We will now vote on Attributes and how they are allocated in terms of modifiers. Primary will grant a +30, Secondary a +20, and Tertiary a +10. Note that we will be using a d100 system, similar to the Rage Across Pennsylvania quest. More rolling details will be coming soon.

>You will get two votes for this round - one for her Primary and one for her Secondary. The Attribute with the most votes will become Primary, second place Secondary, and last place Tertiary. The Primary Attribute will then decide which path we take.

>Attributes (Choose 2)
>Physical
>Social
>Mental
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>>5812393

>Primary: Mental
>Secondary: Social

Basically, I think we should double-down on our Path of Kings alignment and become a calculating mob-boss type character.

To some extent, we can counter our physical weaknesses later with Fleshcrafting.
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>>5812393
Seconding >>5812400. VTM is about nothing if not intricate, centuries-long plots made by immortal monsters trying to backstab one another as hard as possible. Hell, if our Mental stats get high enough, we may even gain the option of using Koldunic sorcery.
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Shouldn't we vote on the path too?
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>>5812400
+1

Who needs gains when you can graft them to your frame
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>>5812407
If we become a koldun, we're set, koldunic sorcery is busted
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>>5812407
>>5812409
>>5812410
>>5812412

Exactly my thoughts.

Anyways, to amend my post here

>>5812400

We should take the Right path to take advantage of our BIG BRAIN build.
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>>5812393
Support >>5812400
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>>5812393
>Middle path

>Primary: Social
>Secondary: Mental
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>>5812393
>Right Path

Forgot this.
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>>5812393
>Right will require a Mental roll
>Mental
>Social
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>>5812393
>Primary: Mental
>Secondary: Social
>Right path
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>>5812393
Amending my prior vote >>5812407 with the Right Path.
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>>5812400
+1 right here, brothers.
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Btw, you talking about Athens by Night Dark Ages can't shake away the thought you are QMing for us Athens Chronicle by Kelly Black. If so, I'll be happy as fuck. I love this saga and one day I still wanna ST for my friends.

If someone wanna read it, it's in STV folder in WoD thread in /tg/, just check STV pastebin in OP post.
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Rolled 38 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

Voting is now closed, with Mental winning Primary and Social coming in second place!

>>5812400
>>5812410
Now you are thinking with portals!

>>5812479
Ohh, I had no idea something like this was in the pastebin. Very cool, I’ll have to check that out! And I hope you ST for your buds one day too, anon!

But to make things nice and official, at least so far, our character sheet:

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Kalina of Damascus
Clan Tzimisce
The Road of Kings
Attributes:
>Physical +10
>Social +20
>Mental +30
Abilities:
>TBD Soon
~

For taking the right path and heading to the Mental based challenge, I need a roll.

>We will be using a d100 roll system, each roll will be the best of three. I will state what modifiers you should input. The higher the roll, the better - but you will also need to beat my roll. Which I will always try to put up before so we can see what you have to beat.

Give me a roll of dice+1d100+30.

Your modifier is simply your Mental Attribute of +30. Remember, best of three to beat my roll! Let’s see how this goes!
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Rolled 83 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>5812572
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Rolled 55 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>5812572
I hope to ST for them as well. I'm in some Discord servers with real nice people and I wouldn't mind to ST for strangers as well.

Btw thank you for QMing this for us. It's so nice to see two WoD Quests at same time here.
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>>5812587
NANI? There’s two going on? I had no idea… What are the odds…

Also I keep forgetting to put this up. Some mood music:
https://youtu.be/ppy9aLvDCp4?si=N6Z5_Y3CKz0EpgQ9
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Rolled 37 + 30 (1d100 + 30)

>>5812572
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>>5812596
A couple of mood images
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>>5812604
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>>5812596
Yes. It's even in OP text in WoDg thread in /tg/. You don't go there?
Crtl+f "World of Darkness" here in catalog and you'll find. People on WoDg in /tg/ don't like 'cause MC is a gay/bi man. When WoDg thread goes to page 7 or 8, I'll try to update OP text to include your Quest too.
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>>5812575
>>5812587
>>5812602

NICE, y’all beat the hell out of my roll. I am pleased.

>>5812633
Wow, thank you. Completely unexpected but appreciated :D

And I got my hands on the STV Athens Chronicle. Bumble fucked my way there, but I got’em. I’ll be giving them a read.

Update will be out by the end of the night (EST)!
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>>5812645
You're welcome. Keep in mind that if you going to join in WoD Chicago Quest, the QM has a slower update rate, updating the game once a day. There was a day he updated 3 times, but I take that as an exception.
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>>5812393
>Primary: Social
>Secondary: Mental
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Pardon my tardiness, all.

>>5812651
Honestly, my updates will slow down to 1-2 a day. I happened to have a long weekend off and wanted to get through most of charges.

~-~

>>5812572
>>5812575

Making your way down the right hand path, you notice moonlight from above fade. Further back it would mingle with the torchlight, but now, both become more scarce. You enter the necropolis proper now, the passage growing thinner, and coffins lining the walls. Each one is decorated with a skull crowning it and you cannot help but feel their gaze looking down on you. It contributes to the claustrophobia you feel.

You finally reach a dead end, sigils of blood painted on it. In the middle are words, asking in Greek, “if Caine was the first, then who was his teacher?” Ah, of course. Questions from the Book of Nod. You prick your pointer finger upon your fang, writing out “Lilith” beneath the question.

The blood dried and you paused. You thought correcting your answer to “Lilit” might appease the questioning stones, but then the wall absorbed your answer. The question faded, the sigils around you shifted, becoming clan sigils you recognized. The question in the center was replaced with another: “They make gardens but grow nothing - all they cultivate is within a Cainite.”

Your sire maybe a hard teacher, but you thank the lessons he gave you on all the clans. You circle the Medusa head symbol, standing for Clan Lamiae. They are the most earnest in the teaching of enlightenment through pain in their “gardens.”

The words warp and change, and this time, two questions are posed to you at the same time. Each has their own clan symbols below them.

>Which clan do you despise with fiery hate?
>1. Tremere - Meddling and murderous upstarts! They target us as others look the other way, but we will show them how Cainites make war. They must be exterminated, down to the last.
>2. Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.

>Of which clan would you want to gain an ally?
>1. Salubri - Honorable and in dire straits thanks to Tremere and Ventrue. Not the most politically apt, but strong friends regardless.
>2. Cappadocian - As inquisitive as the Tzimisce, we have a kindred spirit with them. Their necromancy is ghastly, but useful.
>3. Nosferatu - Having a connection with the faithful and down-trodden is always good for information. With how other clans treat them, you understand why they cling to friends eagerly.
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>>5813075
Tremere
Cappadocians
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>>5813092

Supporting.
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>>5813075
>Which clan do you despise with fiery hate?
>2. Ventrue

>Of which clan would you want to gain an ally?
>3. Nosferatu
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>>5813075
>Ventrue
Don't like Tremere, nobody does. BUT I LIKE AN OPPORTUNIST LESS

>Nosferatu
Always a good group to have as friends
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>>5813075
>Ventrue
>Nosferatu
As much as I want to pick Cappadocians, they're too passive to really get much done in the way of spying and politicking. Nosferatu, meanwhile are not only loyal, but good at survival. All three of are worthy allies. but we need spycraft more than scholars or fighters right now.
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>>5813075
Just wanted to get a sense, QM-- but how open are you to write-in answers? Also, are we picking general clan relations, or for who joins our party like VTM: Redemption
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>>5813075
>ventrue
>salubri
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>>5813075
>1. Tremere - Meddling and murderous upstarts! They target us as others look the other way, but we will show them how Cainites make war. They must be exterminated, down to the last.

Upstarts, usurpers, pretenders!

>3. Nosferatu - Having a connection with the faithful and down-trodden is always good for information. With how other clans treat them, you understand why they cling to friends eagerly.

The most persistently useful throughout the ages.
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>>5813075
>Tremere

>Cappadocian
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>>5813075
>>2. Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.

>>3. Nosferatu - Having a connection with the faithful and down-trodden is always good for information. With how other clans treat them, you understand why they cling to friends eagerly.
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>2. Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.


>2. Cappadocian - As inquisitive as the Tzimisce, we have a kindred spirit with them. Their necromancy is ghastly, but useful.
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You mean to tell me Cappadocian might lose on the day of the year the Gauntlet is the thinnest
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>>5813075
>>Ventrue
>>Nosferatu
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>>5813273
Hey, Nossies are spooky too!
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>>5813075
>1. Tremere - Meddling and murderous upstarts! They target us as others look the other way, but we will show them how Cainites make war. They must be exterminated, down to the last.
>1. Salubri - Honorable and in dire straits thanks to Tremere and Ventrue. Not the most politically apt, but strong friends regardless.
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>>5813075
>2. Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.

>3. Nosferatu - Having a connection with the faithful and down-trodden is always good for information. With how other clans treat them, you understand why they cling to friends eagerly.
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>>5813075
>2. Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.
>1. Salubri - Honorable and in dire straits thanks to Tremere and Ventrue. Not the most politically apt, but strong friends regardless.
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>>5813075
>2. Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.

>1. Salubri - Honorable and in dire straits thanks to Tremere and Ventrue. Not the most politically apt, but strong friends regardless.
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>>5813075
Ventrue - Cold opportunists, our rivalry as the leading clan has come to a head. They infiltrate and invade as the Tremere attack. They are leeches wishing to be propped up on thrones.

>1. Salubri - Honorable and in dire straits thanks to Tremere and Ventrue. Not the most politically apt, but strong friends regardless.
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Voting is now closed. Ventrue and Nosferatu have won the vote!

>>5813167
For the first question, I am open to write-in answers. Just making this intro bit more focused, but once we exit the dream/character creation, things will get more open. As for the second question, it’s a bit of both for clan relations and who joins our coterie.

Updating now!
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POST 6

You make your choices, drawing over the lion and crown of Clan Ventrue and the anonymous black helmet of Clan Nosferatu. The stones slowly part, revealing a passageway not used in decades, if not centuries, judging by the smell. You enter, relying on your vision alone. No light to guide your way. But you always seemed to do better on your own path.

Over an hour passes, the passage mingling with cave-like formations, built around these natural formation. You even have to squeeze through some areas, duck, and hop over small trenches. Overall it is a smooth journey and you are soon back outside, smelling the salty sea air around Constantinople.

Like Lot’s wife looking back on the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, you turn your gaze to Constantinople. The Triumvirate’s Dream is dead, having met Final Death. Perhaps even Amaranth, as you are sure Cainites from Western Europe descend on this jewel. As the fire and smoke rises alongside the towers and walls of Constantinople, you behold a strange sight.

Three colossal men stand among the cityscape, watching the flames and tumbling destruction. Michael’s Dream is dead. You can’t help but feel a pull toward the visage. And as you feel that pull, you feel the all too familiar pull from daysleep take you…

>Of the Triumvirate, which do two do you feel the most pull towards?
>(This is a fancy way of deciding Abilities, voting will be like that of Attributes. Vote on which is Primary and Secondary, last place will be Tertiary. The modifiers are the same, +30, +20, +10.)

>Michael - Talents. Ever the socialite and leader, Michael the Toreador was the last survivor of the Triumvirate.
>Dracon - Knowledges. One of the eldest Tzimisce at the time, Dracon gave new meaning to the inquisitive and insightful branch of his Clan.
>Antonius - Skills. Refinement and enhancing came naturally to Antonius the Venture.
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>>5814309
>Dracon - Knowledges. One of the eldest Tzimisce at the time, Dracon gave new meaning to the inquisitive and insightful branch of his Clan.
>Michael- Talents. Ever the socialite and leader, Michael the Toreador was the last survivor of the Triumvirate.
Fuck Ventrue. Fuck 'em all the way down.
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>>5814309
>Michael - Talents. Ever the socialite and leader, Michael the Toreador was the last survivor of the Triumvirate.
>Dracon - Knowledges. One of the eldest Tzimisce at the time, Dracon gave new meaning to the inquisitive and insightful branch of his Clan.
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>>5814309
Sorry, I should amend >>5814321 to say.
>Primary (Dracon)
>Secondary (Michael)
>Tertiary (Antonius)
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>>5814309
>Primary : Michael
>Secondary : Dracon
>Tertiary : Antonius
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>>5814321
>>5814325

Supporting this strategy, it matches well with our attribute selections
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>>5814325
+1
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>>5814309
>>Primary : Michael
>>Secondary : Dracon
>>Tertiary : Antonius
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>>5814309
>Primary (Dracon)
>Secondary (Michael)
>Tertiary (Antonius)
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>>5814309
Supporting >>5814325
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>>5814325
Support
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Voting is now closed, and Dracon has won the Primary vote, Michael the secondary.

We learned as hell, boys. And we can socialize pretty good - how we end up physically is gonna be interesting, keeping Vicissitude in mind…

But working on update now. Gonna also go over rules and post them as well.
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>>5815959
The question remains whether we will be old clan tzcimice or the regular kind. Would be pretty cool to style on the tremere on how real magic is done.
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>Dracon (Knowledges +30), (Michael (Talents +20), Antonius (Skills +10)

~The 22nd of September, the Year of Our Lord: One Thousand, Two Hundred and Thirty~

You awaken with a start, the giant men standing over Constantinople lingering in your mind. You could swear Dracon turned to you. His altered face looking down at you, the one they called the Holy Ghost of the Triumvirate.

The sensation of just being awake once the sun set was normal to you. The lack of needing to breathe or feeling rejuvenated from your daysleep had also slipped into a nightly occurrence to you. You’ve been a member of the Damned just as long as you have been alive. Embraced into the Clan of Tzimisce in your mid-twenties, a learned and clever woman of the Obertus family. So impressive that the Cainites who lingered behind your kin came to introduce themselves to you and your family.

Vampires had controlled this branch of your family for generations, even in faraway Damascus. The way the Cainites conversed with your father reminded you of making a marriage deal. Except your partner-to-be was unlife. Brought upon you by one Gavrail of Kiev. He was also turned at a young age, but he had centuries of experience. People and Cainites would mistake the both of you for a married couple, the two of you looked so close in age. He would laugh and play along if they were mortals. If they were fellow Cainites, he’d say, “bred from the same Obertus stock, we were! The finest of the Clan of Dragons.”

You shiver at the thought for God knows what number of times. That your Cainite sire was also your great-great-great-great grandfather, watching and waiting over your family for the cream of the crop to be birthed did not sit well with you. Or how he’d say you two were a couple to mortals.

“That’s over tonight though,” you mumble, pulling yourself free from the coffin and walking upstairs. You go to the balcony, opening the windows to see the night sky of Athens greet you. The torches along the walls and towers of the Acropolis were already lit, the other houses lighting one by one, like fireflies joining in display. You smile. Tonight you will be free from your fledgling status.

Tonight you will be a Neonate. No longer under the yoke of Gavrail.
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>>5816175
Elysium will be held in a little over an hour. Early for the autumn equinox, when the sun gives way to more night time. You won’t be the only fledgling being promoted to Neonate before Prince Dionysius.

You find yourself wandering to Gavrail’s study. Part of you will miss the resources easily at hand in this manor. You gaze upon the old leather map taking up the main table. Where Gavrail managed to get this map, and in such a good condition, you know not. When asked, he gave a dramatic, “one of those quaint shops down in Piraeus!” You could swear your sire was meant to be a Toreador with the queer way he talks. You shake your head and look down at the map.

The districts are all about the same, if not bigger. Athens has been sacked five times since the making of this map, beginning when the Persians pushed through the Spartans at Thermopylae. And now the faraway Franks and Venetians occupy the Greek city.

The birthplace of democracy had gone through its own Embrace - after the death of Constantinople, the lands around the Aegean Sea fractured. Some defied the Latins - the Western European Catholic forces that came on the Fourth Crusade. Athens was now a duchy, ruled by French speaking Catholics ruling over a majority Greek speaking and Orthodox populace.

Somehow, for the mortals, it worked. There was a straight line division in language and religion, the newly installed Archbishop wanted to convert the duchy to the “true faith” but the duke knew better. The West met the Greek, becoming the most peaceful successor state to the Byzantine Empire.

Events have been much more tense for the Cainite population. They hold the same lines as the mortals, but they are amplified. The Latin Cainites have been slithering their way into Athenian nightlife - predominantly Lasombra, Ventrue, Tremere, and Giovani. They push the local Low Clans, trying to establish domain and thus get a vote and voice in Elysium. Only the Cainites who hold domain gain access to Elysium. They are dubbed Patricians for their citizen rights.
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>>5816178
All the rest congregate at the Agora and Pnyx, airing grievances and debating freely like the ancient Athenians. The real rabble rousers of the Low Clans call themselves Prometheans and are wanting to establish what they call a “Primogen Roundtable” for all clans, High and Low. Others want to install a tribune system, or at least have more say under Prince Dionysius. The Prometheans are nothing if not diverse - your sire’s way of saying “they are not unified.” You have been to both the Agora and Elysium, under special supervision of your sire. You’ve seen elders fall in line at the Elysium. You’ve seen Cainites draw weapons at the Pnyx. You’ve seen more than one Ventrue or Giovani move behind the movers and shakers on any given debate. You’ve seen more Latin Cainites gain traction in the Agora, and gain the right of domain as Patricians.

You stroke your chin, knowing that beyond the borders of this city lie the Furores - the truly twisted Cainites. They resort to banditry and ruining any life, undead or otherwise. As you think of pawns and ways to play this Athenian Game, you know that wielding the Furores would be like holding a blade with no handle. You can swing it, but the bare steel bites into you.

After tonight, you must find a domain. Or at least a haven. Sharing one with Gavrail is not an option. You don’t want to be under his shadow anymore. The Prince allows newly made Neonates to shelter with him, but that charity does not last forever. And the longer you’re there, the more shame you will acquire, until you are nothing. It’s seen as worse than being a fledgling, because you are now capable, but haven’t found opportunity to strike out on your own. No one wants to become like Poor Kassandra.
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>>5816181
Benedictus, your Nosferatu colleague, is also becoming a neonate tonight. You’ve been to his haven before. It was a cramped tunnel in the underground Necropolis, but it was his home. His sire let him find his own haven. You were jealous at that - Gavrail always kept you on a tight leash. You also recall there being other Tzimisce or at least Tzimisce-aligned revenant families in Athens. Your sire wanted to make unlife as hard on you as possible. “To see you truly bloom,” he would say, smiling at you.

You shook your sire from your mind. You entered into the night at a turbulent time. Prince Dionysius keeps the peace over the city. But the War of Princes is being fought here. Just more subtly than in Transylvania. You would be a fool to think the few Tremere here wouldn’t leap on a haven-less Tzimisce. Or a Latin Patrician promise you a place in their feudal domain. The Prince hasn’t allowed new domains to be made in a century, thus the number of Patricians has stagnated.

Each plan has their own benefits and drawbacks. You need shelter first and foremost. But you also need a plan. Clan Tzimisce must rise and fight off the Tremere and Ventrue. You clench your fist at the thought of Theodoric the Marble Knight. A Ventrue, only a few years older than you, but already acquired a domain leading to the wealthy port of Piraeus and the title of Patrician. You can smell Usurper blood behind him. Yet he sometimes forgoes attending Elysium, rubbing shoulders with the Agora Cainites and winning them over. You recall the taunting he gave you for voicing your opinion on a matter. Talking you down, saying that because of your clan and gender that your say was worth little. You lashed out but the other Cainites pulled you away.
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>>5816183
You sigh, glancing from the Acropolis on the map to the corners of the city. How to get power? What does that power look like - sitting on the throne in the open, or ruling from the shadows? What factions could help you, hinder you? You have more in common with the Greek populace than the newcomers from the west. But you also straddle the lines along the city, being a foreigner yet brought into the city by a Patrician and living here for two and a half decades…

Prometheans. Patricians. Furores. Tzimisce, Obertus. Tremere, Ventrue, Lasombra, Giovani. Nosferatu, Brujah, Cappadocian, Gangrel. Benedictus, Poor Kassandra, Marble Knight Theodoric. Gavrail. Prince Dionysius. All players. All pieces.

Your thoughts coalesce…

>What should you do for a Haven?
>Write-in

>What is your path to power in Athens?
>Write-in

>Keep in mind a young neonate’s life can be turbulent and plans may need a new spin or abandonment in the face of new opportunities. May Lady Athena bless Kalina of Damascus and the Clan Tzimisce!

>Wow, that was long. I hope I didn’t lose anybody in that info dump. I wanted to give at least a general overview of the situation in the city before letting the write-ins begin. My next post will be our character sheet, along with rules, all gathered into one post. If anyone has any questions, please ask!
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>>5816185
>>What should you do for a Haven?
Investigate the shrine of Athena and it's potential as a place of operations. Doubtless it might be claimed, but a claim is only as strong as the force behind it.

>What is your path to power in Athens?
Poor Kassandra. This sounds like a childe of Malkav. They, and the Furores, may be a path to power. But it is important to ensure a degree of separation between us and them. Let us work to sway Poor Kassandra to our side.
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>>5816185
>What should you do for a Haven?
Shrine of Athena sounds good to me. Shrine of Artemis or Hera could also work, thematically.
>What is your path to power in Athens?
To raise Clan Tzimisce up, we must seek out the like-minded in order to build our own alliances, while preventing our enemies from consolidating too much power. We are underestimated-- but this can be turned to our advantage, so long as we move tactfully. Of the available clans, the Cappadocians and Nosferatu should be a relatively firm allies-- and the Lasombra useful tools, due to their innately fickle allegiances. If Benedictus is in our Coterie, we can strengthen relations with Clan Nosferatu more easily, and also try to have him keep an eye on the Ventrue's dealings while we seek power among the other High Clans, like the Cappadocians or Brujah. Filthy opportunist though he is, Theodoric is right to make overtures to the Prometheans; we cannot underestimate their growing power in these chaotic times, and we would be loath to allow his influence to grow unchallenged among them. Poor Kassandra -- assuming she is a Malkavian-- would be a valuable advisor, provided we are able to maintain a degree of separation, as >>5816231 said, but she could just as easily be a double-edged sword, depending on the nature of her affliction and her willingness to help us.
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Unrelated to our immediate discussion but something to keep in mind. I remember seeing a valuable piece of advice in an old WoD thread that. Here it is in the pic related. While Anarchs and Cammies don't exist yet, I feel like the core of it still applies to Our Fair Lady Kalina.

>All smart Kindred are their own master.
>However, no smart Kindred labels themselves as such.
>Always make yourself and your mission the number 1. priority.
>But remember the rules by which the game is played. Show respect, hospitality and manners to everyone. Recognise another's authority but do not suborn yourself to it.
>Always keep a low profile.

That last one is slightly less relevant in these older nights, but it all still applies.
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>>5816231
>>5816261

>haven?

Shrine to Athena sounds cool - if nothing else, we’ll stumble into other Cainites along the way and perhaps find a temporary solution.

>what is our path to power?

Given the very active and crowded scene in Athens, war is on the horizon. I say we join the Promethean-aligned group at the Agora/Pnyx with the ultimate goal of informing on their activities to an elder Tzimisce. So basically:

1) pretend to be disaffected Tzimisce who hates their sire
2) join up with rabble rousers using Benedictus as a path-in
3) sniff out elder Tzimisces who might want a low-level snitch and hopefully get some minor resources this way
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>>5816299
>snitch
I don't know how much respect we will elicit by doing this unprompted. It's one thing to spy at another's request. It's another thing to first introduce yourself as "the snitch"
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>>5816185
I'll support >>5816231 and >>5816261

I will share a few thoughts. I think we also ought to try and work to peal a few of these Prometheans over to our side. Though we ought to keep in mind our relative lack power in any official capacity when offering inducements.

We also should keep in mind our more mundane features, and the time and place. We are a woman in pre-modern Greece, albeit a learned one. Though by virtue of our status of being a member of a notable family and our reputation as a educated woman we'll have some influence, knowledge and raw presence forcibly sets down a chair at any table.

As for our means, I think ought to lean on our resources to act as a patron and lender - to kine or kindred, and our brains to act as administrator and advisor or merchant, mostly to kine in some minor local fashion for some business or great family, since most of the bureaucratic hierarchy is likely controlled or occupied already by seniors. Below us they may be, humans still provide the power for everything. Our Disciplines can be offered as services too.

As for making use of the Furores, this works, bring a previously unconsidered or unchanneled power into the old equilibrium to shift the balance. I do think we should pay especially high attention to our physical security when meeting with these people though. Our arrangement should be short term and opportunistic, since this is likely how they will treat us. We may be in danger as much as those we direct them at. Unless circumstances offer up a very sure long term relationship, in which case we should devote every effort to verify the surety of said relationship to secure a reliable means of coercive/physical power.

Question for QM, do we also have access to our revenant Disciplines as a member of the Obertus family? Also, we are being cut loose and no longer have access to the estate we were living at, but we still have the Resources advantage, yes? Money and possessions and stuff?
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>>5816406

>starting a mortal bank

Creating the “Blood Bank of Athens” would be a creative and pretty good idea.
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>>5816185
It's a good infodump QM. I got nothing to add expect that we should use our knowledge and leadership qualities to subvert mortals to our bidding. Having a coterie of loyal human followers wouldn't be a bad thing.
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>>5816408

And now that I think of it - we should just ghoul a mortal banker (if one exists) and become de facto head of operations once they are blood-addicted.

From there we can work behind the scenes to take out competitors and get up to all kinds of hijinks to make sure our mortal banker has phenomenal business successes
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>>5816406

Only after making this last string of posts did I realize I totally forgot our Resources and Cainite Status. The benefits of being a High Clan. My apologies everyone. Allow me to detail those.

Resources (3) - Although living quite comfortably, most of your money is in the mortal bank of Athens. One of the things Gavrail taught you was money management and growth - you used the money he gave to you and invested in businesses. Mainly the silver trade from nearby Larium, the transporting and minting of the new Frankish silver coins. If you break out all of your money, you’ll be able to live as a higher end merchant. Not quite like mortal nobility but close.

Cainite Status (2) - You are on the eve of becoming a Neonate, but Gavrail’s reputation in Athens has given you advantage. Since he’s so active and always a presence, Cainites have taken note of you. That you’re the newest in a High Clan with a modest presence in the city, even more so. You are an intriguing curiosity. Among Elysium and the High Clans, you are given the respect of an ancilla. Where the Prince’s open doors also invite shame if under his roof for too long, other Patrician Cainites would be more than happy to shelter you. For a few favors, of course…

>The pic attached is the Domain map of Athens. The colors do not mean anything, I just wanted it a bit easier to read. The Pnyx, Areopagus, and Acropolis are all neutral areas. The Agora is technically part of a domain, but the non-Patricians gather there regardless.
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>>5816469
Thank you.

Looks like the Shrine of Athena is free, ideal for us given our plans. If it isn't as free as it looks, then it looks like the interstitial space along the borders of each domain is free. It is seemingly meagre (the spaces between spaces, that is, not the shrine) territory, but a lot of those spaces are along roads or thoroughfares with a lot of traffic. Probably enough to supply us with adequate vitae and enough business for our mundane mortal related affairs.

I'll ask my other question again since it wasn't answered. Do we have our revenant Disciplines from being part of the Obertus family, in addition to our Tzimisce disciplines? I'm not quite sure how that works or if that was ever a thing where you got both if you were originally a revenant or from a family of revenants.

Also, I know we aren't using the WoD system (thank god), but how many 'dots' do we have in each discipline?
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>>5816185
What do we look like?
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>>5816481

As far as appearance goes I was thinking pale brown skin with black hair. Maybe the pic attached for a more general medieval look or any of the following:
>>5812645
>>5812393

>>5816480
Apologies for missing your question. I would say that we have Obfuscate in addition to Animalism, Auspex, and Vicissitude.

Before I get into the “dots” distribution, know that I will be referencing V20 Dark Ages for the Discipline abilities.

I’m going to start us out with 9 dots, to show that we’re a Neonate ready to take on the night. I was mulling the distribution over myself, but this is too big for me to just decide. I want your thoughts.

The highest I want anything is 3 dots. I feel like 4 and above are the real big swingers and I don’t want to start off with that.

So I’d like to see your dots in:

>Animalism
>Auspex
>Obfuscate
>Vicissitude
>One out of clan Discipline

For the out of clan, I’m wanting to stick with the shared Disciplines among the 13 clans. Nothing too crazy or any sorcery - I’m wanting koldunic to be learned in game, if we choose to pursue it.

So that gives us:
>Celerity, Dominate, Fortitude, Potence, Presence, Protean

I’ll start us off with what I was thinking. I’m using this more as a jumping off point.

>Animalism 1
>Auspex 2
>Obfuscate 1
>Vicissitude 3
>Dominate 2
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>>5816620
Looks good to me!
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>>5816620

I honestly agree with your selection, QM. We've already chosen to forgo physical competence (so that rules out Protean, Celerity, Fortitude, Potence).

My only recommendation would be to switch out Animalism for one dot of Presence, if that's possible. Our girl seems a bit too snooty to traffic with wild beasts and vermin.
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>>5816620
I'm more than okay with that.
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>>5816620
I'm fine with the selection of Disciplines you've chosen, QM. However, I would like to ask how we'll be leveling up and increasing our stats/skills/disciplines.
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>>5816659
That makes sense
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>>5816620
>Presence 1
>Auspex 2
>Obfuscate 1
>Vicissitude 3
>Dominate 2
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>>5816739

Ooooo I like. And the dots look good!
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>>5816764
Thank you anon. I have a decent collection of suitable images.
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>>5816802
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>>5816620
Looks good, but I'll agree with >>5816659 and >>5816739 for the slight adjustment. It'll go well with our plans too.
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>>5816620
Actually, I take back >>5817113

I didn't read closely enough. You only want one out of clan Discipline and both your initial proposition and the adjusted version anon suggested already have Dominate, which is more than enough for our purposes. I'm fine with your selection.

We don't have to go tromping through the woods or skittering through the dark alleys looking for rats to make use of Animalism. If anything I'm sure it'd be seen as fashionable or prestigious to keep some kind of exotic animal as a pet/showpiece or to have tamed a hawk or falcon to engage in sport with. Useful for defence or recon too.
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>>5816739
A build to rival those damned Ventrue! I like it, if we can take it.
It just feels really suitable for the path of kings.
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>>5816805
Nice

>>5817127
>If anything I'm sure it'd be seen as fashionable or prestigious to keep some kind of exotic animal as a pet/showpiece or to have tamed a hawk or falcon to engage in sport with. Useful for defence or recon too.
Would be cool if QM allows it.
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>>5817127
>>5816739

I’ll be honest, I didn’t know how big into Animalism people are when it comes to the Tzimisce. I personally like this build more than mine. Luckily it is in clan and we won’t need an instructor like we would Presence.

>>5816678
I will be answering this in my rules dump below.

>>5816739
I do like this as a picture for Kalina. Also keep in mind that with our first dot in Vicissitude we can alter our body.

And without further ado… The character sheet and The Rules!
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Complete CHARACTER SHEET

Kalina of Damascus
Clan Tzimisce
9th Generation
The Road of Kings
Vitae: X/10
Willpower: x/10

Attributes:
>Physical +10
>Social +20
>Mental +30
Abilities:
>Talents +10
>Skills +20
>Knowledges +30
>Road Aura +20 (When leading or persuading others. Making a promise. Honor and respect others.)

Advantages:
>Status 2 (Among Cainites. You are given the same respect as an ancilla thanks to your sire’s reputation)
>Resources 3 (You have a large sum saved up in the Bank of Athens)

((Long Text for Advantages
Resources (3) - Although living quite comfortably, most of your money is in the mortal bank of Athens. One of the things Gavrail taught you was money management and growth - you used the money he gave to you and invested in businesses. Mainly the silver trade from nearby Larium, the transporting and minting of the new Frankish silver coins. If you break out all of your money, you’ll be able to live as a higher end merchant. Not quite like mortal nobility but close.

Cainite Status (2) - You are on the eve of becoming a Neonate, but Gavrail’s reputation in Athens has given you advantage. Since he’s so active and always a presence, Cainites have taken note of you. That you’re the newest in a High Clan with a modest presence in the city, even more so. You are an intriguing curiosity. Among Elysium and the High Clans, you are given the respect of an ancilla. Where the Prince’s open doors also invite shame if under his roof for too long, other Patrician Cainites would be more than happy to shelter you. For a few favors, of course… ))

Flaw:
>Carouser’s Addiction Flaw (Must feed on those who partake in your once-mortal addictions - sex and alcohol. You only gain half the Blood Points you comsumd otherwise.)

Disciplines:
>Refer to the V20 Dark Ages Core rule book for the Discipline descriptions

>Auspex (2)
>-Heightened Senses (Free), Read the Soul (1 Blood Point)
-Good for keeping a grasp on your surroundings with great senses and are able to see what others are thinking by their Aura.

>Obfuscate (1)
>-The Silence of Death (Free)
-This makes a zone of silence within the circle.

>Vicissitude (3)
>-Malleable Visage (1 BP per Alteration), Transmogrify the Mortal Clay (1BP per subject), Rend the Osseous Frame (1BP)
-Able to alter your own appearance, alter others' appearances and stats with the last two Disciplines.

>Dominate 2
>-Command (Free), Mesmerize (1BP per instruction)
-To force your will upon mortals and higher generation Cainites.

>Presence 1
>-Awe (1BP)
-Excellent use for making an impression on new and old faces. .
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RULES

>We will be using a d100 roll system, each roll will be the best of three. I will state what modifiers you should input. The higher the roll, the better - but you will also need to beat my roll. Which I will always try to put up before so we can see what you have to beat.

>Things that can be used to modify your roll:
>Attribute and Abilities (Always present), Road Aura (+20, when applicable), Rouse Blood (+20), Spend Willpower (+50), Relevant Discipline use (Varies)

Vitae Uses:
>Rouse: You can spend 1 Vitae to temporarily enhance your Physical Attribute. Your next 2 rolls will gain a +20 modifier.
>Blush of Life: You can spend 1 Vitae to appear as a living human once again. You will be able to intake food and drink, even perform coitus. Each Vitae spent equates to one hour.
>Healing. Cainites can only heal through usage of blood. Failed rolls in combat will result in damage, showed via growing roll penalties until healed.
>Ghoul/Blood Oath Creation: A mortal or animal consuming the Vitae of Cainites can make them into that Cainite’s servant. Over the course of several nights or weeks, a Cainite can feed someone their blood and make them subservient to their wishes. This power also affects other Cainites. Three drinks for either type of subject is needed for the full effect, and the subject falls madly into loving obsession with the providing Cainite. Staggering doses can keep them at lower levels.
>Disciplines: You can spend Vitae to activate your vampiric abilities. The cost varies for each.

Willpower Uses:
>Used to resist instinctual actions, mind altering Disciplines, or enduring harsh conditions.
>Disciplines: Used to activate higher level vampiric abilities, in addition to Vitae cost.
>Spend 1 Willpower to give +50 to a roll.
>Regain 1 Willpower at the start of each night.

Experience Points:
>Gained at the end of every quest. Quests are tasks from friendly NPCs, performing favors in exchange for favors, and building your power base.
>Used to acquire or strengthen Disciplines or Advantages.
>The cost to raise or buy either is 5 EXP.
>You can also "buy" a new Road or go down a Road's path to gain new benefits. Be forewarned, changing from one Road to another is a major shift that will take time, and have RP consequences.
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>>5817275
>I like this build more than mine.

So do I, but I'm just going with the guidelines you laid out. Personally, if we were optimizing, I'd probably skip the dot of Animalism entirely and put it into one of the other Disciplines. Escalating exp costs and all that (iirc).
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I will be working an all day shift today, so an update will not come until tonight or tomorrow morning.

As always if you have questions please ask.

I will amend the EXP Cost for Disciplines to be scaling like in the TTRPG.

3 x the dot you want to buy for in clan
5 x the dot you want to buy for out of clan
Advantages (what V20 Dark Ages calls Backgrounds) will be a flat cost of 5.

I hope you all have a great Saturday!
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>>5817276
Let's fucking go
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>>5817285

Cool beans QM, I’m ready to play! Thanks for your continued efforts!
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>>5817285
I am ready. Can't describe how excited I am.
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>>5817285
I hope you have a great time too QM! Your work has me very excited to play
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>>5816185
You mull over your choices for a Haven. Benedictus is a good ally, but you don't want to be bunking with him on your first day as a neonate. Not to mention the rumors it would stir…

If you have to, you'll have to. But the Shrines of Athena, Zeus, and Artemis may provide shelter. If anyone is there, well, they may have a rude awakening when you come along. You smile at the thought.

Dangerous they may be, but the Furores are a relatively untapped and unknown power. The Cainites of the city write them off as malicious bandits and robber barons. You surmise that there is more to it than that - investigating this force would be good. Getting your foot in the door, as they say, will be the challenging part.

The Prometheans. Led by Brujah, the one clan seeking to mingle and fight for the Low Clans, and even lower, the mortal herd. The masses may not have as much say as the Patricians, but their wants are simpler. And their number far exceeds those of the elders in Athens. You must visit the Pnyx and Agora to get a feel for the local news on the Prometheans - it has been some time since you attended a debate.

As for making way into Elysian politics, you believe Kassandra is worth investigating. She has stayed with the Prince for years, and has become a step above a serving girl for Elysium. Your intuition tells you that she hides something. You also wonder what the other Tzimisce in the city are up to… Elder Ilias is prominent but scholarly, due to his Obertus inclination. You recall a Signore Grimaldi at the Bank of Athens when you opened your account there. He said his last name with meaning and Gavrail gave him a deadly stare. You've not seen Signore Grimaldi since.

You frown. Why does Gavrail hinder you so? What is there to gain from holding your childe back? The foppish man enters the study, grinning at you. "Studying your future, are we?"

You shoot him a look. "No thanks to you, sire. I've been here nearly three decades and barely know the court. I've been seen but not acknowledged."

He chuckles. "That's what tonight is for, my childe."
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>>5818739
“I cannot help but feel like more could’ve been done on your part.”

Gavrail takes on a scandalous look. “You wound me, childe!” He gives a predatory smile. “Do you know why I Embraced you?”

You furrow your brow. Is this a trick question? “I was the best candidate out of the Damascan Obertus family.”

He chuckles. “That is correct, but there’s more to it than that. You see, your family fled from Clan Tzimisce into the East. They didn’t want to be a part of our dealings anymore. But they still had gifts, powers they used solely for their own benefit in Damascus.” His face becomes stern. “I was sent to kill you and yours. I studied your family for months. I had many agents keeping eyes and ears on you. But instead of slaughtering you all, I negotiated. I took their brightest star and reconnected them to Tzimisce.”

You pause, pondering. “You defied orders.”

“I gave myself creative thought. Why waste a perfect revenant family? Especially in new territory for Tzimisce. I put the fear of God back into them. They lost a daughter and Tzimisce gained a new scion.”

You couldn’t believe it. The revenant blood in your family started to fade… That’s why you had power with Obfuscate when you were Embraced. That’s why grandfather looked so full of vim and vigor. Your family was trying to get away from it all. But now you are a higher being. Your eyes were open to the real movers and shakers of the world. And you would stand with them.

“You used me to better your position.” You almost admired the man.

“Exactly! The Obertus have become too stuffy, plunging their noses into books all night. We Cainites thrive in social arenas. Tzimisce and Obertus need socialites.” He placed a hand on your shoulder. “We’ve made ourselves too isolated, too arrogant. That is why the Ventrue and Tremere besiege us in Transylvania. We made ourselves easy targets.” He smirks. “But not easy prey.”

One of Gavrail’s servants comes in, announcing the carriage is ready. Your sire squeezes your shoulder, turns away, saying, “we are off to the acropolis!”

The ride through the city is uneventful as you ruminate this new revelation. Was he telling the truth? It sounded too detailed to be a lie… But you recall he excelled at manipulation. You put it to rest for now. Something else to look into later.
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>>5818741
You exit the carriage, the ancient steps of the acropolis above you. The giant bowls of fire lighting up the ancient temples to Athena. The banners of the duke and crosses symbolizing the Christ were hung about the pillars and statues. Even the Latin Franks could not bring themselves to demolish such history. The duke held his court in the same temple as Elysium - the Prince controls him and the acropolis. It was a rather flagrant display, holding Cainite politics in the same building that mortals conducted their own politics, but it was a lovely display of power as well. The mortal guards on night shift, doubtless on leashes held by Cainites, let them in.

You pass by the splendid and colossal statute of Athena. She stood proud with her spear and shield - at her feet were candles and symbols of devotion to the Virgin Mother Mary. You ponder the implications. Athena was born from the head of Zeus, after all… An immaculate conception, needing no sin to be created. You shake your head away from theology as a familiar figure approaches.

“Benedictus,” you smile at your friend. Many times you two helped each other in tasks decreed by your sire. He was stealthy and good in a fight, whereas you could talk when the need arose. You made a good team out in the field.

“Lord Gavrail,” he gave a stiff bow, as much as his hunchback could allow. Gavrail turned and walked away, ignoring the Nosferatu. “Kalina. It is good to see you,” he glances to your sire. “Is he still kicking you out?”

“Yes,” you feel the pang at the lack of a library. “But I will find something.”

Your friend glances down at his foot, tapping it before looking at you again. “If you need a place, mine isn’t much, but it’s always open to you.”

You let his embarrassment roll off of you, smiling. “Thank you, friend. I will see what my prospects are, but I may come to rely on you.” He nodded grimly, knowing the implication of a High Clanswoman staying with a Low Clansman.

Entering into Elysium was like stepping into another world. Or rather, stepping back in time. The walls were covered in burgundy red, crowned by blue banners marked with white owls above. Moonlight shone down on the statue of Athena in the grand room, made of brass and looking down at the Cainites. Just below her was a raised platform, and upon that stone sat a simple chair. Prince Dionysius sat on a simple wooden chair brought in for him to overlook the political congregation. His Road was of Humanity, and the modest chair and staff he held provided this air. Only his trimmed black robes gave away his clan being Cappadocian.
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>>5818742
There were more Cainites here than usual. About thirty was the average attendance, counting personal retainers for the patricians. You count nearly fifty this night. The gathering milled and murmured about themselves, Gavrail returning to your side before the Prince struck his staff against the stone. “My friends and noble Cainites. We are here to welcome our new blood into our city. Though they have been here, we greet them as true equals this night, as fledglings stretch their wings and become Neonates.”

An advancement that made the new neonates scramble. They were free from their sires but that was the only benefit. ‘Survive on your own, or perish,’ is all the Prince would have to say and the ceremony would be over. But even neonates that wanted to lie low, like Benedictus, had to stand in front of all the patricians. Show off the new pawns. You swore you would not be one.

The Prince started with the High Clans, working his way down to Tzimisce. Another man flanked you, a tall and sturdy man in a rough hewn grey robe. You thought he was a monk with his shaven head, but you noticed the bumps along his jawline. You usually saw them as spikes, but he must have made them recede recently. Ilias the Elder. The oldest Tzimisce in Athens. And your sire’s sire. “Speak with me once you are free,” he mutters as the Prince calls you.

“Kalina of Damascus, of the Clan Tzimisce, step forth!” You, Gavrail and Ilias walk up tp the Prince. The two older Cainites stop at the foot of the small stairs. You walk up to the platform, kneeling before Dionysius. He places a hand upon your black hair. “I hereby pronounce you a neonate of Clan Tzimisce! Arise and tell us your Road.”

Next he’ll ask what kind of blood you enjoyed. You stand, and turn to the gathering. You alight the power of Presence within you, using it to make a good impression as the clouds part and moonlight rays land upon your face. “I am Kalina of Damascus and I walk the Road of Kings.”
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>>5818743
You walk down the stairs and return to the crowd. There are too many faces to determine who was struck in Awe of you. But the Prince goes down to the Low Clans. Whereas every High Clan had one neonate, the Low Clans only had three this year.

Prince Dionysius stands and raises his arms up. “May your unlives in Athens be fruitful! Now drink, mingle and make merry!”

Servants seem to appear out of the red curtains along the wall. Most hold silver platters with chalices of blood. A few bring out delicate meats and fruits, for those wishing to expend vitae for the taste. In the sea of Cainites, you spot the blonde hair of Poor Kassandra, holding a platter and giving out chalices. Before you can take two steps, the serene voice of Ilias calls to you.

“Kalina, my grandchile,” he says, smiling sadly at you. “Forgive me for not reaching out these years.” He glances to Gavrail, whom is already mingling with Toreador and Ventrue. “Your sire has been a struggle to converse with. I wish it were not so, but his mind and attitude clash with those of Obertus stock. But I see even his blood calls to intellectuals, and I would be very happy to receive you in my Domain.” He looks over your shoulder and his gaze turns cold. “I wish to speak more candidly with you there, if you would be so inclined. For now, something wicked comes for you.”

You turn about and meet eyes with Theodoric the Marble Knight. Patrician of Northern Piraeus Street. Short brown hair and chiseled face give him a heroic look, one he revels in with the women of the night, both mortal and immortal. He holds two chalices between the fingers of one hand, taking a small spoon in the other to clang against the glass. “Friends, Athenians! Lend me your ears!” He offers you a chalice. “I wish to propose a toast to our new neonates! To the health of our Prince and all law-abiding Cainites!”

That damnable man. Already upon you. It would be rude not to take the chalice and drink. To decline would go against all the new neonates—your colleagues—the law-abiding Cainites, and the Prince himself. Your true feelings on each of them are different but to tie them all together into a ‘yes or no’… Very good, Theodoric. But what is in those chalices? Damn him and his trap.

>What do you do with the chalice of blood?
>Write-in
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>>5818744
>Read the Soul of Theodoric to try to pick up what he's plotting. If it's safe to drink and purely a political move, you have no reason not to drink. If it has been spiked with something, you can swiftly gain face and make him lose face by calling him out on it, especially so with what he claimed the toast to be for.
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>>5818744

Dumb question, but would it be possible and/or hard to pretend to drink?
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>>5818750

I’ll support this over “pretending to drink”
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>>5818744
Supporting >>5818750. If we can, (and since Heightened Senses is free) smell the blood to see if we can detect any foul play, and if so, what kind. As I recall, the vitae of other supernatural creatures can have interesting effects on Cainites-- such as Werewolf blood driving them to Frenzy. Maybe play up the aristocrat angle-- make a show of smelling it like a sommelier before we make our decision over whether to drink or not.
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>>5818770

Good idea:

1) Heightened senses for sniffing through sommelier-style plot.
2) Read Theodoric’s soul.
3) if no funny business, drink!
4) if funny business, maybe call Theodoric out on his shit?
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>>5818777
+1
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>>5818750
Supporting
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>>5818750
>>5818770
+1
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>>5818744
+1 to >>5818750 and >>5818770
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We could also just warp our flesh to create a false chamber above our "stomach" to house the potential poison, though I don't know how subtle that would be or whether we have neough skill for that
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>>5818755
That’s not a dumb question! It would be possible to pretend to drink it. However, once you actually swallow, your undead body will not want to let go of its one sustenance. Binging it later would require a roll.

>>5819547
Now this is a crazy idea. I think it’d be hard to warp flesh on the inside, but all Vicissitude needs is skin on skin contact. Kalina could just fold her arm or something, and bam, it’s possible. But fine tuning inside flesh like that would be difficult.

>>5818755
>To get more info out of “Read the Soul” we will have to roll. I will go ahead and roll my dice. I’d say every 10 above my roll is a “success” and gives more detail.
>Give me a d100+60

You focus your mind on the smells around you. Waves of perfume and blood overwhelm you at first. You step closer to Theodoric, giving him an intimate look as you wrap a hand around his forearm. With your head right above the chalices, you can smell it.

It is a fine blood, definitely taken from the Prince’s stock. It was still strange to think of mortals as just walking vessels of vitae. But this blood was not your favored type. The mortal was not deep in their cups or enthralled by arousal. You knew this blood would not hurt you, but…

You focused on your sense of sight, running your eyes over Theodoric. His soul, or whatever was left of it, was a pale shade. You couldn’t quite get the color. “Nervous, little one?” Theodoric whispered. You were aware of the eyes weighing down on you. The gathered Cainites would not drink until the toaster took his. And you were stopping him. You concentrate on your eyes, hoping you can get a glimpse of his aura before you take the cup…

>A shorter update this time. I’ll be posting again tomorrow probably about this same time. Got another all day shift to do.
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Rolled 26 + 20 (1d100 + 20)

>>5819800
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Rolled 52 + 60 (1d100 + 60)

>>5819800
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>>5819804
46 vs 112. I'd say we passed that skill check with flying colors.
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Rolled 75 + 60 (1d100 + 60)

>>5819800
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Rolled 29 + 60 (1d100 + 60)

>>5819804
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>>5819913
Jesus, that’s what, 9 successes?
He’s an open book to us. We know his sins.
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>>5819804
>>5819913

>Roll of 135 vs. 46 wins in favor of Kalina, with 8 successes

You peer into Theodoric the Marble Knight’s soul. You notice his ugly core, the Beast always lurking beneath the surface. Most of his aura is a light blue, signifying calmness in heart and mind. But you see something deeper, in between the light blue and the black core of the Beast. It is a quaking layer, one Theodoric is struggling to keep in check. It flits between green and violet—Obsessed and excited. He’s looking right at you.

Something is in that chalice. He anticipates you drinking it. He’s been thinking of this moment for a while if his aura is showing obsessed. What an odd emotion. You take the chalice with a smile, freeing Theodoric to drink. The rest of Elysium follows, but as you deactivate your Auspex powers, you feel his eyes looking over his cup.

With the sip of blood in your mouth, you cup most of it on your tongue and push it to the roof of your mouth. A thin pouch of flesh holds the vitae, freeing you to speak. “That was a lovely toast, Theodoric.”

“Thank you, Kalina,” he grins down at you, a good head taller than you. “It pleases me for you to join the rest of society as a full Cainite.” He can’t help but smirk as he takes another swig of blood. “Is the blood to your taste?”

“Oh, yes,” you answer, reflexively taking another sip, adding it to the pouch and swallowing nothing. “Not the type that fully quenches me, but… I’m glad it suits you. I would hate for you to hack up the Prince’s stock all over your shiny armor.” He smiles at the bait, taunting his clan’s rarefied taste in blood. He quickly changes the subject.

“I know your sire has been rather… Stifling, shall we say, in regards to connecting with others. I would be more than happy to invite you to my convention, since we share a Road.”

Convention? “Go on,” you shift your posture, swirling the vitae in the glass.
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>>5820480
“All the major Roads have a club of sorts, a place they meet, mingle, and offer aid to each other. As we are both on the Road of Kings, we would meet at the Temple of the Olympic Zeus on Wednesdays.”

“Thank you, I appreciate that information.” What was the saying… Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer? Attending this convention maybe a worthwhile endeavor. But how odd that your rival would invite you to it. “I must say Theo,” you can’t help but taunt him, “rushing right over to me, giving me a fine drink and inviting me to your little club… Plus the way you look at me, I’d say you’d fancy me.”

At that he frowns slightly and looks away, embarrassed. The emotion is so strong that it flares about his aura without you having to concentrate on reading his soul. Oh. Oh dear. “There are few Cainites our age who have given me as much trouble as you. And I admire that. There are much worse blood marriages out there. I feel like we could be great.”

Thoughts fly through your head. Blood bonded to Theodoric? Could that be what was in the chalice… his blood? “I would tend to agree with you. Two members of such esteemed High Clans could shake the city and Greece.” And chain you to the man you’ve hated for two decades. Even in undeath, you could not escape the prospect of marriage. God be good. The thought of his blood in your mouth right now, ready to bond you… It made you shiver. But he was also the childe of Juergen of Magdeburg. Whom was the childe of Hardestadt, the Ventrue pushing against the Tzimisce from the Holy Roman Empire.

This could change the War of Princes.

You fake a sigh. “You’ve given me much to think about. I will have to get back to you. Perhaps when our convention next meets.” You give him a curtsy and he bows, looking over his shoulder at you one last time before disappearing into the crowd.

You peel back your mouth pouch, letting it dribble back into the chalice. You tilt it back as to hide it. A servant with a platter full of cups comes by and you switch yours out for a new one. It still smells of the Prince’s fine vintage. You down the whole thing, letting what little joy it gave you wash over you. You may have to hunt after this, visit one of the brothels or taverns for blood that would properly fill you.

For now you hold your empty cup, looking about the crowd, seeing who you wish to speak with next. You spot Benedictus, Gavrail still cavorting with Toreador, Poor Kassandra refilling her platter at a table, and Prince Dionysius chatting with patricians. You think you spot that Signore Grimaldi who opened your account at the Bank of Athens in the crowd, but it’s been so many years, you are unsure.

>Who would you like to approach?
>Write-in

>Your Vitae is currently 3/10
>Your Willpower is currently 3/10
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>>5820482
>Who would you like to approach?
The prince, Kassandra and Grimaldi in that order. Perhaps we could also allow ourself to be approached by other young neonates.
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>>5820587
Should we also speak with Ilias? He wanted to chat.

>>5820482
>Support >>5820587
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>>5820827
You are correct. I forgot.
Speak with Elder Ilias first then do this >>5820587
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>>5820587
>>5820866
>>5820827

Supporting, speak with Ilias, the prince, Kassandra and Grimaldi in that order.

My first thought is that Theodoric is a dumbass and WE should blood-bond HIM - it's clear that we're smarter than he is, that he's obsessed with us, and we could probably pillage his estate for resources once we have him safely under our control.
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>>5820866
+1
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>>5820827
>>5820874
Ah, I just went back to check more carefully, I was mistaken. He wants us to speak with him in his domain specifically, so he can be more open without prying ears, presumably. Still, we could chat, see if there is anything he wants done while we are here that he doesn't mind admitting out in public.

>>5820874
inb4 the obsessed beggar-knight arc. I do worry about the potential possessiveness if we go that route though.
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>>5820587
Supporting
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>>5820587
This

>>5820874
He's too annoying. But we definitely should take advantage of our charms to claim his wealth and the wealth of other simps and dupes.
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>>5820587
+1
The Prince is always priority.
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>>5820482

You spot Ilias from across the room. You take another cup of vitae from a passing servant, taking your time with this one. As you close in, the elder Tzimisce gives you a stern look before glancing in Gavrail’s direction. Right. He wanted to speak after the equinox festivities. The thought of connecting with another Tzimisce, let alone your grand sire, got the better of you. You slow your walk, stopping by a pillar with the Brujah banner adorning it. You scan about the throng, trying to find the Prince next, when a figure comes up to you.

A woman in a hauberk and pants walks up to you. She is rugged and aged, Embraced in her middle years by your reckoning. You couldn’t conceal your surprise to see how armed to the teeth she was. The hilts of sheathed blades flanked her head, and she had another pair of swords on her hips. Standing in front of you, she looked you up and down.

“I am Sheriff Constancia, and I’ve never seen you before.”

“That makes two of us. I am Kalina—“

“Of Damascus, yes yes.” She cuts you, shaking your head. “It’s my job knowing all the Cainites in the city. I knew Gavrail had a childe, yet he never deigned to introduce me. I want to know… What are your plans in Athens?” Constancia narrowed her eyes. “Do you even have a haven?”

>How do you answer her?
>Write-in
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>>5822578

Let’s be honest, no need to antagonize local law enforcement.

“No haven currently, but I’m thinking about my options in the city. What might you recommend for a neonate?”

If approbation, let’s hit her with a Persuasion roll, maybe she has a good lead for us?
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>>5822578
>"Forgive my sire, his way of doing things is...unorthodox, I must admit. I understand our meeting now has been put off for far too long."
>"Though I must confess that I am still considering my options. This night has left me no shortage of opportunity as far as hopes and havens are concerned."
>"I must ask in return; why do you care to know? Surely you have a reason to be taking such a precise measure of myself."
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>>5822578
Wow, a bit blunt. If she knew our plans then she'd be a mind reader because I'm not sure even we know our plan yet.

Support >>5822615

If pressed, just say we are still figuring that out. It's the truth. If she wants to know our clan's intentions then she's better off asking Gavrail himself. She must be busy outside the city proper, in the hinterland, else Athens is more crowded than I thought to be able to keep her busy, seeing as Gavrail has allowed us to show our face at Elysium and debates at the Agora and Pnyx previously.
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>>5822578
No, not yet. But I plan to.
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>>5822633
Supporting
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>>5822615
Supporting
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>>5822615
>>5822633
+1
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>>5822633
Support
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>>5822633
>Support
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>>5822633
Sup
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How painfully blunt of her, you think. “Forgive my sire, his way of doing things is… Unorthodox, I must admit. I understand our meeting now has been put off for far too long. I’m surprised I never bumped into you previously at the Agora, the Pnyx, or here…” You see her brow furrow, and you take a small pleasure in the slight you’ve given her. You don’t let her retort. “I must ask in return; why do you care to know? Surely you have a reason to be taking such a precise measure of myself.”

Constancia’s face does not relax. “It has been many years since a Tzimisce has been introduced as a neonate in our blessed city. I can number you all on my one hand. I do not want the War of Princes blossoming here.”

Then she may already be a fool. The war is always going on - this current one just happens to have a name. Is she aware of the Tremere in her own city? A question that would truly show Constancia’s competency. “I understand. No one wants all that fighting in their city if they can help it,” you take another sip from your chalice. Peeking at her aura, you see she is still guarded. “As for a haven, I am still considering options. What would you suggest?”

She gives you a derisive snort. “Stay here with the Prince and out of all the games. That is what I did and I became Sheriff.” Ah yes, quite impressive, you think to yourself. Seems like she was grandsired into the position.

You hear distinct footsteps behind you, and a friendly hand rest on your shoulder. “Are you antagonizing our new neonate, Constancia?” The Prince Dionysius asks, chuckling next to you.

Her face brightens and some of her wrinkles recede. “No, my Prince. Just asking a few friendly questions.”

“I don’t even have a haven yet and she was already asking what my plans to take over the city were,” you chuckle, throwing her under the apple cart. “My Tzimisce blood frightens her.” Constancia frowns openly.

“Let’s not be doing all of that now, Sheriff.” Dionysius’s smile fades. “Now, off with you. The Warmaster was looking for you.”

It felt good to jab at an uncouth brute like that. “You’ll have to forgive her, Kalina. Her Lamiae blood is quite hot and can be overprotective.”

“At the end of the night, she is just doing her job.” You say agreeably, now alone with the Prince. “Thank you for allowing me into this splendid city after Constantinople fell,” you recall those hard nights of desperate travel. Barely two years you had stayed at the city before the Latins came.

>What do you wish to say to the Prince?
>Write-in
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>>5824537
The Prince is a big player, but he seems like a reasonable sort of authority. This is an opportunity, but we needn't be overly scummy or scheming (if only for risk of offending him). He's a Cappadocian, right? A keen interest in local history and learning would do well to endear us to other scholars.
>"Did you ever have the opportunity to visit Constantinople before it fell?"
>"May I ask what Road you follow, your grace? And is there any counsel you would give, as a Prince, to a Neonate who walks upon the Path of Kings?"
>"Is there anything you would ask in return for your generosity? Anything that the city needs?"
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>>5824641

These all seem good - vaguely suck-uppish and we might learn something interesting as well
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>>5824641
Supporting
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>>5824641
+1
Some light prodding, see if we can get a feel for the man and maybe learn something interesting.
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>>5824641
Ah, I think we should avoid asking what Road he follows, we already know he follows the Road of Humanity. Proof >>5818742 second to last sentence. We wouldn't want to look stupid. On a meta level too, Prince Dionysius is an established character that can be looked up. Unless you just intend for the question to be a conversational filler topic.

It doesn't seem like Cainites in this hide their Road. At the very least newly initiated Neonates like ourselves seem to be required to state their Road outright.

>>5824537
I'll support >>5824641 though as I said above, I'd prefer not to look stupid and ask his Road when we already know it and he likely doesn't hide it.
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>>5825329

This anon raises a good point, no need to ask about Roads from the Prince
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>>5825329
>we already know he follows the Road of Humanity
I remember noticing that, yet I completely forgot about it. How embarrassing.
I agree with this anon, we should avoid asking what road he follows. Otherwise, I still support the rest of the write in.
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>>5825329
Amending my vote to this
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>>5824537
I still support >>5824641 with my reductions, but I'd also like to ask the Prince what he thinks of the Bulgarian's victory over the Empire of Thessalonica at the Battle of Klokotnitsa earlier this year, among other things. Peace seems fragile outside our peaceful bubble here in the Duchy and the Epirates and Bulgarians seem to be closing in.

Also, why reside with the Duke in Athens rather than the original capital of Thebes, just out of curiosity*. I'm guessing the Prince wouldn't mind discussing ordinary human affairs, maybe he'd even enjoy it.

*Just a few days ago I read that Thebes had 100,000 people in it during the Latin period, while Athens had a mere 10,000. Problem is I can't find the source where I read that again. I assumed it was just Wikipedia, but again, I can't find the source. Thebes is also quite wealthy from what I understand. Anyways, if it is true then I'm wondering why the Prince chooses to rule from the less populous and wealthy city of note.

Thoughts on the election of John of Brienne as regent of the Latin Empire?

idk, just trying to come up with chit chat to avoid an awkwardly short conversation with the most powerful guy (that we know of) around within a few hundred miles. May as well hear his thoughts while we have his ear. Take or leave any of the above at your discretion.
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>>5825456

Kek, is that you NewbQM? Your historical autism is deeply appreciated. We should ask about some of these things also.
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>>5825501
lol

No, I'm not our gracious overseer of Manuel. Though I was a pretty active participant in said quest, before falling off for IRL reasons. I'll catch up one day.
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>>5824537
Changing >>5824641 to reflect what >>5825329
pointed out. Asking for advice is fine; not catching the Road he follows was my mistake.
>"Is there any counsel you would give, as a Prince, to a neonate who walks the Path of Kings? In your view, what are the most important qualities for a King to strive for?"
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>>5825456
>>5824641
+1 support. These sorts of questions on recent developments in kine governments very much fits our knowledge focus.
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OP?
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>>5828922
QM could just be taking the weekend off.
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>>5828930
He's just out for smokes haha. He'll return soon hahaha.
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I think I'll take over QMing for this if QM doesn't show back up within 2-3 days. Just need time to do some reading. I have the requisite V:DA books, but I'm too poor for proper history books, so you'll have to suffer Wikipedia/Google Scholar tier "research". That is if anyone is even still interested.
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>>5832063

Based, I’ll still play anon
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>>5832063
I am, you could ask around in the /tg/ general or /his/ if you need help.
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>>5832063
>That is if anyone is even still interested.
I am very much still interested.
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>>5832063
I hope that QM is okay, but if you decide to run in their place, I'm interested.
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>>5832224
Same
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>>5832063
Well then?
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It was good while it lasted...
Hope QM is safe and sound.
We started last month pretty well with 3 WoD Quests.
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>>5832063
Are you still intending to pick this back up, anon? And if/when you do, will you use this thread, or make one of your own?
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>tfw even the guy who said he would take the Quest dropped

RIP

It was a good Quest while it lasted.
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I'm sad. We'll never get a long running Dark Age quest.
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>>5840498

Not until YOU run it
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RIP to a real promising one who died too soon
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>>5824641
>"May I ask what Road you follow, your grace? And is there any counsel you would give, as a Prince, to a Neonate who walks upon the Path of Kings?"



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