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Decker hefts his bags over his shoulder as he dusts off his clothes and hops up from the small crater. Coco hops about in small circles around him, quickly running up the nearby hill and yipping at the noises coming from the city beyond. Most of it is a grey sprawl, an endless sea of shanty towns built upon shanty towns into makeshift towers of scrap metal and salvaged construction materials, the worn and eroded chunks of old prefab housing blocks visible in patches beneath the jerry-rigged add-ons. Further beyond the junk city, shimmering in the haze of smog and glittering in the setting sunlight, you see the massive pearly white spires of the Mentan universities, each one piercing the cloud cover as the massive arcologies stretch seemingly without end, their tops hidden beyond the veil of clouds and smog blanketing the industrial landscape bellow.

Decker lets out a short cough, and quickly places a small filter mask over his face, and calls coco over to him, struggling with the shadehound to manage to place a similar mask over its nasal flaps as the animal whines and rolls about in the dirt against his grip.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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>>2994912
>Its the next day
Oh boy
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>>2994912
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 32,997,640N
Metals: 27,873,614M
Credits: ₡6,252,206
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active Commercial trade routes:
>Leeland – Lanway HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]
Estimated per-day value: ₡2,500,000

>Construction underway

system adjustments needed
[Heavy Fleet] x15
[Fast Assault Fleet] x5

>Formed fleets and orders
Citadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]
Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]
25 Heavy Battle Fleet [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]
30 Light Fleets [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
25 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Fast Assault Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Ambush Fleet
6 Carrier Battle groups
10 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]

Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses
[Gemini]
3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)
4 Human flash clone upkeep – 120
18 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540
Specializations:
>Tech
>Engineer
>Brawler
[Hive space]
100 Human Hybrids – 3,000
Lyle Rogers – 57
Jackob Eisner – 56
Dillon Reager – 30
Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N

>Income
Metals: 2,950,500
Nutrients: 7,636,000
Net:

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390

(Nutrient stat + structures) * 1k * dev score + modifiers = Nutrient income total
(Metal stat + structures) * dev score + modifiers = Metal income total
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>>2994915
It's like exiting a paradoxical limbo dimension where things were both constantly happening and not moving forward at all.
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FOR MOTHER
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>>2994923
Espionage Activity

Gemini
Agitation – ************___
Suspicion – ******_________
N 48
M 18
Development 70
[Covert Infiltration]
>Beggars and Taidarens
Resources:
1 Sleeper Cell within local civilian infrastructure
A high ranking source of information within the governmnet
Close ties with local Taidaren clans

This planet holds an embassy, random chance to gain intelligence each day, +1 Active Operation available. This planet's population is highly irritable and aggressive to Hive influence. All failure and detection chances are increased. Increased rate of psionic resistance in the local populace. Any attempt to increase unrest will receive a bonus to success chance and increased detection rate.

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Union Parliament Building – Unique: The primary seat of Union political authority, this structure organizes the humans and various xeno entities within the Union into a semblance of order, collecting taxes and passing laws, all things the Hive has little need for, but the single-minded cannot function without.
BFI HQ – Unique: The center of Union counter intelligence, the Bureau of Foreign Intelligence is devoted to rooting out espionage across the Union, as well as infiltrating enemy or possibly hostile planets and organizations. Allows recruitment of BFI agents and deployment of espionage cell networks on other planets.
Space Elevator [Under construction] – This space elevator is nearing completion, however political corruption and recent unnatural inclement weather patterns have caused delays.
ISGM launch facility – Launch facilities for ISGM's, or Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. In effect high-yield MIRV warheads fitted to corvette sized automated vessels capable of short range warp travel and the deployment of many dozens of independently targeting nuclear, kinetic, or gravitic warheads. Nicknamed 'planet busters' the very existence of these warheads are typically reserved as a deterrent, and are too large to be effectively used against anything other than planets or space cities.
Union Customs Authority – Unique: Large scale government oversight of import and export activity creates a demand for a greater level of traffic be diverted through the capital system when dealing with interstellar multi-national corporations so as to allow said corporate travel more rapid movement through local bureaucracy. +2 Commercial Trade Routes
[Detected Economic Activity]
Commercial Trade routes:
Gemini – Librae
Librae – Gemini
Lanway – Gemini
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>>2994923
>>Formed fleets and orders
Do we... do we still have fleets?
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>>2994929
Gemini Beta
[Maintain Concealment]
This is a sparsely populated military world. Low population increases the abilities to conceal a hive, while its large military presence increases the failure rate of operations. This world is under military lock down, dramatically increasing failure rates of attempted actions and operations.

[Hydra]
Path
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet is currently under military lock down, dramatically increasing failure and detection chances. The local population is anxious and afraid of the future due to recent events, increasing the population's psionic vulnerability to influence.

Talgo
[Maintain Concealment]
Elite Hive Agent Anderson: Spin Doctor – Allows minor passive influence of local politics, increasing or decreasing Agitation or Suspicion by one point per day. Requires at least Covert Infiltration.
This planet is undergoing an infestation from non-native insectoid life forms. Discovery chance is decreased as locals dismiss your flies as part of the infestation, but failure rate is increased as local anti-infestation measures inadvertently kill your drones periodically.

Coral
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet's native biosphere is silicon based, limiting the capacity for your drones to disguise themselves as native life forms and forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements, increasing detection chances.
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>>2994912
Aww yiss, time for my favorite spacebugs quest.
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>>2994912
Gas the squids
Stab the monkeys
Nuke the whales
Trust nothing!
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>>2994923
Um... aren’t most of the “awaiting orders” fleets still at the artificial planet in Scav space?

Not that I’m complaining, I thought leaving the majority of our military in an area tainted by void fuckery was a bad idea anyway.
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>>2994936
[Eridanus]
Huron
Agitation – **_____________
Suspicion – *______________
N 78
M 25
Development 65
[Passive Observation]

[Full infrastructure roster unknown]
Huronese Fishers' Guild – Exclusivity laws and carefully organized mass-branding gives locally caught specimens artificially high value, translating 25% of local N income to Credits.
Island Resort – Strings of small island chains domed against the frequent storms offer mock-traditional entertainment and themed luxury events to the ultra-wealthy, increasing Credit income
Wet Navy – Floating and submersible platforms make up the majority of the planet's anti-orbital battery locations, allowing for the rapid relocation of PDF forces on short notice. Improves firing arcs of anti-orbital weapons.

[Sirius]
Mentan
[Maintain Concealment]
Elite Hive Agent Decker: Tech – Is able to gather additional information, reduces detection risk of local espionage.
This planet is currently in a state of mild unrest due to regular protests and small riots regarding upcoming local elections. Such activity is considered normal for the planet's relatively unstable political landscape.

Arnim
[Maintain Concealment]
This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

>>2994932
Yes... Though you've sent most of them into Scavenger space. I may not have updated all of their orders correctly. I had to delay the thread due to one of my tooth fillings spontaneously failing and causing an abscess, resulting in debilitating pain through most of the weekend. Ended up having to delay the thread and spend most of the week in bed high on prescription pain killers because of it while waiting for a root canal appointment on monday. As a result, most of this thread's prep work was done over a sleepless 32 hour period, with a short nap just a few hours ago. Please let me know if you see anything wrong and I'll fix it.
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Weekly reminder

>Raid OQ
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Board and take over a scav world ship.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>2994945
Void fuckery isn't that contagious. Only when the void shards are involved do we really have to worry.
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>>2994947
Hive space: All worlds within Hive territory are able to perform espionage without resource cost, and all actions and operations have a dramatically increased chance of success and decreased odds of detection, but discovery brings with it a much greater risk of major public backlash and public discontent when performing events not linked to counter-intelligence.

Domain of the Red Queen

[G-426]
Leeland (capital)
N 60+40
M 45
Development 50

Income:
4.861MN
112.5KM

Defensive structures
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN)
Anti-orbital battery grid – Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)
Military structures
Hangar facilities – Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)
Psionic Shroud – Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)
Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – (2000) (100KN)
[Empty docks: 8000/8000]
Capillary Tower – (25,000N)
Smart Mines active – Calculates development stat twice for metal income
Algae Farm – +25N
Film harvester dock – +15N

Asteroid mining base [Depleted]
This hollow asteroid provides an excellent location to construct a Space City at low cost.

Asteroid belt
M 57
A sizable belt of metal rich asteroids containing a large, hollowed out Hive mining base that would serve as a decent foundation for a Space City hub.

Gas giant
A hydrogen gas giant that contains a bounty of usable gas fuel, such as tritium and hydrogen for FTL navigation and fusion power generation, making it a common pit stop for passing hive fleet patrols. Research on methods of further exploitation of its atmosphere is underway.

>P1
N 0
M 75
Development 0

>P2
N N/A
M N/A

>P3
N 24
M 7
Development 0
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>>2994947
>one of my tooth fillings spontaneously failing and causing an abscess
[curse continues]
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FEAR THE VOID
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[Dagmar]
Kaltara
N 0
M 100
Development 20
Pop 0

Income:

This planet's small corporate population has evacuated with the Union forces, taking what supplies they can and leaving the rest.

Economic Structures
Magma wells – Mostly automated magma pumps extract liquid metal resources from subterranean volcanic rivers for further filtration and refining, Allows extraction of resources relative to Development without a civilian population center. [offline]
PDF Field repair depot – The remains of a military facility devoted to the assembly of field repair kits and equipment for local military forces. [ruined and offline]

Gibson
Nitrogen ice giant with a a number of resource rich rings

>Gibson Station
A mostly automated mining facility, the station has been evacuated and stripped of most of its equipment. What remains is a large, yet empty husk of a refining facility, little more than the rough equivalent to an empty parking garage stripped of all valuables, but the husk itself would make it more easy to construct a larger and more dedicated mining facility in the form of a Space City in the otherwise dangerous construction site of the planet's rings.
>>2994945
You did, but as I said I may have some mistakes listed due to most of the prep being done in either a sleepless marathon or in a drug and pain addled state of confusion.

>>2994953
I know, right? It happened literally the morning after the last thread finished.
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>>2994951
>>P1
>N 0
>M 75
>Development 0

>>P3
>N 24
>M 7
>Development 0

Wow, that's an impressive quantity of resources for planets that we've been more or less writing off so far. Maybe we should start developing them before too long.
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>>2994936
>forcing them to siphon off food from local settlements

Wait, that shouldn't even be necessary once any hive infrastructure is grown whatsoever. Solid State Teleportation alone allows bringing in raw Nutrients and Metals, and then there's complex matter reconstruction.

Suppose we should raise this to Passive Observation so we can begin Invasive Research on the silicates, and start escalating on Mentan and Arnim too.
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>>2994951
>>P2
>N N/A
>M N/A
Nothing suspicious here.
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>>2994956
[Koenig]
Accretion disc
N 15
M 30
A large field of asteroids, gas, and small dust particulate combined into a thick soup of exploitable resources.

Tadeki Station [Destroyed]
This mining station once used by Union military forces for field repairs of passing ships has been rapidly salvaged and made to self destruct using a low yield nuclear warhead, likely to avoid allowing the salvaging of any potential military secrets regarding Union starship construction. All that remains is a cloud of metal particulate to be added to the rest of the accretion disc.

Calpamos
N N/A
M N/A
Development [Unavailable]
This hydrogen gas giant provides a bounty of water and hydrogen to fuel passing starships, and was the last stop of most evacuating fleets as they left the Expanse during sovereignty transfer. The planet has three moons, each of them habitable to some degree.

>Calpamos Station
A station tethered to the local gas giant linking to gas mining facility within the upper atmosphere. Most of the facility has been abandoned, scrapped, or otherwise rendered inoperable due to the rapid evacuation of local Union and corporate entities. Research into gas giant superstructures are required perform proper repairs and bring the facility back online, allowing the colonization of Calpamos itself.
>Hub
[Orbital Anchor]
>Wards
[Customs]
[Trade Port X2]
[Frontier Outpost] Increases Pop migration from overpopulated human worlds to worlds in local system Union only
[Barracks]
[Union Post Center] Reduces costs of shipping infrastructure in local system Union only
>Utility Wards
[Merchant Docks]
[Corporate Field office] Van Den Broek Superluminal Closed
[Rest Stop]
[Slipway]

Acheron
N 34
M 23
Development 5
Agitation ******_________
Suspicion ***********____
A small number of frontier settlers have begun initial terraforming efforts. Few have evacuated, and many seem to be forming village militias to establish an ad hoc planetary defense force. Whether this militia is intent on resisting hive rule, or accepting hive sovereignty is yet to be determined, but they have made no overtly hostile gestures yet beyond the acts of entrenching their homesteads and looting the local armory.
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>>2994963
Deckard's Claim
N 65
M 22
Development 15
Agitation ************___
Suspicion ********_______
The planet consists of a number of small farming camps built around a paramilitary base commanded by ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave. While many did, public discontent is running high, and while many seem to believe the recent events to be Lord Deckard's rather over-zealous way of retaining power under a new government, some believe there to be some foul play at work on the Hive's part. Either way, the population of just over a hundred thousand is growing increasingly at one anther's throats over the matter.

Djin
N 15
M 11
Development 0
The planet is under a mandatory general evacuation order from the Union, and Union marines have forcibly removed the remaining scientists and miners on the surface under the claim of a possible disease outbreak, transferring the small population of several thousand to a number of military hospitals at undisclosed locations for observation under short term quarantine.

[New Port]
Callahan
A hydrogen gas giant with multiple layers of rings and small dwarf planetoids of irregular shape containing sources of metal, water, and frozen gases, and was previously a major refueling station for corporate and merchant fleets.

Callahan Station
A sizable industrial facility devoted to organizing mining drones and facilitating repair and refuel of passing commercial ships. The station is mostly offline, and only a small skeleton crew remain to keep it in orbit as the owning corporation attempts to determine the state of the Hive economy.

Asteroid belt
N 0
M 22
A moderately rich belt containing precious and heavy metals

Bedrock
Agitation *********______
Suspicion ******_________
>Hub
[Promenade]
1 Megacorp HQ [Rutherford Industries Extraction and Assembly Inc.] Closed
>Wards
[Sprawl X2]
[Customs]
[Trade Port]
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Red Light District] +20 Dev score applied only to credit income, decreases detection risk of espionage activity, cannot be built, has a chance to grow in empty Ward slots when Pop Cap is above 100

This colony is suffering from widespread panic, dramatically lowering detection chances of espionage agents, but making the results of operations far more unpredictable, and making gathered data unreliable.

Darwin
N 88
M 25
Development 0
A military base previously existed on the surface where artifacts were excavated under close guard. The base has been entirely dismantled some time ago, and the planet entirely evacuated, leaving only the empty clearing where the Union had previously cut and burned away the local flora.
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[Juric]
Brandenburg

Billiard
N 21
M 0
Development 0
This planet is currently settled by nomadic gas harvesters

>Norfolk
N 12
M 28
Development 0
A corporate 'shake and bake' colony devoted to terraforming, the corporate sponsors have pulled out, and evacuated the small population of engineers on the surface, leaving the planet a barren rock as they found it.

[Telarum]
Krasnikov Interstellar corporate outpost

[Sentinel]
Sentinel Post

[Tannhauser/Kerik Ashka]
Aral
N 48
M 65
Development 0
This planet's population consists only of Valen construction workers applying the finishing touches to the Tannhauser hypergate. No permanent settlement exists, and no effort to extract local resources had been made.

>Tannhauser Gate [Valen Controlled]
>Ward
[Hypergate] Allows hypergate travel
>Wards
[Barracks]
[Refinery]
[Traffic Control] Improves traffic capacity of Hypergate
[Merchant Guild office] Valen only
[Trade Port X2]

Debris field
M 89
The remains of the Skyl homeworld, the field holds a wealth of minerals, ice, and metals.
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>>2994966
[The Garden/Wayward Hope]
Barren rock
N 0
M 3
Development 0

Asteroid belt
A small belt of asteroids in a semi stable orbit arround the star holding some amount of precious metals.

Raligha
N 90+50
M 10
Development 25

Income:
3.5MN + 1.75MN
250M

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)
>Anti-orbital battery grid (8KN)
Economic structures
>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N
>Greystalk farms: Bio-engineered native super-crop offers easily maintained farmland tended by both drone workers and native ralighans +30N
>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, +50% N income
>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day, allows recruitment of Ralighan Elite Agents.

Ice Giant
A super-massive ice giant mostly composed of inert gasses with few usable resources.

[M-323]
>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)
[Empty docks: 0/4]
>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)

[A-295]
Frozen Ice planet
N 20
M 1
Development 0
A small frozen planet covered in various forms of ice

Binary volcanic planets
V1
N 0
M 100
V2
N 0
M 100

Barren radioactive planet
N 0
M 6
Development 0
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>>2994963
> a paramilitary base commanded by ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave
Well this one looks like a piece of work.

>Darwin
>A military base previously existed on the surface where artifacts were excavated under close guard.
I don't think we've sent an expedition to sample the local flora and fauna here yet.
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>>2994972
[Desmond]
Accretion disc
N 23
M 35
A thin ring of stellar debris orbiting the two native stars containing a microbial substance able to feed on local metals

Pegasean Gas Giant
Advertised as “the Inferno” by the travel agency organizing the local band performace, this giant is unusable for resources due to the simple fact that it is endlessly engulfed in flames, a fact that makes it useless for mining, but quite attractive to tourists visiting the orbiting Space City

>Builder's Gift
>Hub
[Presidium]
>Wards
[Zoological Reserve]
[Zoological Resort]
[Inferno Resort]
[Thermal Regulator]
[2 Trade ports]

>P1
N 0
M 0
Development 0
A small frozen ball of ice and rock

>P2
N 15
M 26
A primordial world with a thin atmosphere and high levels of oxygen, as well as geological activity and a surface covered in shallow pools of a strange animated liquid carbon substance.

Asteroid belt
N 16
M 5
A sparse field containing a small amount of metals, but mostly ice and rocks.

Ice planet
N 7
M 2
Development 0
A small planet on the edge of the system containing mostly ice and negligible sources of metals.

[Wonder]
Debris field
A thick and widespread layer of micro-particles and debris spread across the system, granting a penalty to the ability of ships within to dodge incoming attacks.

Ancient Dockyard
The site of the Builder's ancient laboratories and experimental shipyards, now little more than a vast tombstone marking her passing. The massive structure could be easily and cheaply retrofitted with your own advanced construction techniques to create a space city.

[Farcast]
Derelict Sensor array

Glassed Hive world
N 0
M 100
D 10

Income:
0N
100KM

>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal income

Deep space waystation
>100 docking pylons (10KN)
[Empty docks 400/400]

>>2994957
Yea I realized that just dumping info into the thread of only places you've colonized makes both me and most of you just about totally forget about everything else in your space, and frustrates the hell out of the few that remember them, so I just statted all of them up with semi-randomly rolled stat blocks.
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>>2994957
I'm sure it's still a bit of a controversial topic but I'd still like to core mine at least one 0 N planetoid.
>>2994958
I'll second increasing espionage level.
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[Refuge] – The Scarred Queen
An unusually dense and reflective ort cloud makes it unusually difficult to accurately blink deep into the system and disrupting sensors attempting to penetrate the cloud.

Frozen metallic world
N 5
M76
Development 0

Rocky temperate world
N 52
M 35
Development 0

Binary moons
>P1
N 5
M 20

>P2
N 12
M 24

>Forest Moon
N 78
M 13
Development 15

Defensive Structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors placed across the planet's surface capable of targeting orbiting enemy vessels in conjunction with additional anti-orbital weapon systems.
Anti-orbital battery grid – Under construction
Surface to Orbit Missile System – Under construction
Temple of the Unseen – A grand temple devoted to the Matron Queens, the gods of the Phantoms, tended to at all times by the planet's most revered elder matrons and patriarchs, they focus their abilities in tandem through the temple as an amplifier, projecting a blurred sense of incomprehension over the planet's surface, preventing enemy forces from accurately bombarding surface targets during combat. Requires a native Phantom population, and allows recruitment of Phantom Elite Agents.

Military Structures
Hangar Facilities – 20% replenished
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>>2994982
New Construction Options

Defensive structures
Spore Caster Network – A network of Spore Castors built within the most critical components of the local planet's surface infrastructure surrounded by heavily fortified flak and anti-air weapon systems devoted to intercepting incoming landing craft or low-orbit attackers. The spores themselves use a modified skip drive to propel a tachyonic warhead into or near the enemy target before exploding in a burst of hard radiation that damages nearby targets and scrambles sensors and psionic senses, in effect serving as a kind of orbital flak weapon. 6,000N 12,000M
Anti-orbital battery grid – A network of anti-orbital batteries scattered across the planet, each situated in a fortified bunker complex fitted with stationary gun positions and intense hive creep fortifications. Each battery is a capital ship class particle beam capable of attacking enemy vessels in orbit of the planet, each situated in relation to the others to provide overlapping fire over any location above the planet. 8,000N 48,000M
Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)
Shield dome network – An overlapping network of bunkers crisscross the landscape of a planet offering emergency shelters for any local inhabitants to survive orbital attack, as well as shield emitters placed in overlapping layers set around important infrastructure and planetary installations. Like all shields, heat quickly becomes a problem as it sustains fire, as such a mixture of ventilation towers and subterranean heat sinks, turning a small facility into a massive, sprawling network of infrastructure. If the planet suffers orbital bombardment, this planetary installation will absorb all damage first. 8,600N 50,000M
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>>2994977
Haven't we been terraforming Farcast for a while?
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>>2994977
>frustrates the hell out of the few that remember them
Thank you for thinking of my autism.
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Military Structures
Military Spaceport – Extensive fortified maintenance bays and hangars are built across the surface of the planet, as well as infrastructure and manufacturing centers to support the production and maintenance of a planetary strike craft squadron. Swarmer fighters are produced at a constant rate with suitable range to intercept orbiting vessels or approaching dropships, while more advanced fighters and gunships of the most suitable design are produced and maintained for system wide defense and patrol Aerodynamic drones are also maintained in scattered hangar facilities to provide air support in the event of ground attack, and intercept enemy dropships. All craft are held in hibernation to reduce costs, allowing an entire planet's worth of strike craft to be maintained for a relative low cost. 500N 1000M
Psionic Shroud – A single building built around the shattered remains of a Void Shard, the shroud amplifies the unnatural mental silence of the broken crystal within to mask an entire planet from potential detection, preventing outside forces from easily detecting the thoughts of a hive. (2,000N 5,000M)
Psionic Sensor Tower – A massive spire composed of highly psionically sensitive instruments and material focused on the detection and measurement of wide range quantum states in a vacuum directed at the space around the planet. Grants a chance to predict the arrival of ships approaching the system via certain FTL methods. The effectiveness depends on the method used and the size of the incoming fleet, granting a base chance to detect incoming Blink drive ships at 75%, Space-fold and Rip drive at 50%, Warp drive at 25%, and Flicker drive at 10%. Gatecasting ships from Hypergates and Slip drive is not effected. (20KN, 30KM)

Economic Structures
Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. By default is used to produce hive vessels, but can be made to offer repair services to passing ships in return for credits or other acceptable transaction fees. 100N 300M
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>>2994987
Eleven days.
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>>2994985
>Shield dome network
>Spore Caster Network
Who's up for building these on Leeland right now?
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>ex-ship commander Lucas Deckard, who has since assigned himself the title of Lord and renounced Union citizenship and demanding those who would remain loyal to the Union to leave.

Yeah we need to go an see to that.But good to see that at least one of our new colonies is adapting to the new regime.
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>>2994993
So 3 more days till we see how good our terraforming is.
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>>2994991
Weather Spire network – A networked collection of spires spread across a planet capable of studying and altering a planet’s climate and atmosphere. Construction includes the building of all spires needed to function. While the spires can manipulate a planet's climate towards any desired effect, by default the spires will attempt to optimize a planet's fertility and habitability for hive life and its primary crop strains, increasing a planet's base N score by 5. Alternatively, the spires can work to create intense storms and thicken the local ionosphere, reducing N score by 5 and imparting a penalty to enemy craft within the atmosphere and blocking enemy communications to and from orbit, as well as disrupting sensors of orbiting ships. This option is not available for planets with naturally turbulent and disruptive climates. (8,000N 20,000M)
Orbital solar array – A station placed in orbit of the local star equipped with a membrane of photosynthetic cells several kilometers in diameter capable of producing a steady stream of nutrient income. Due to practical constraints of logistics, a star system can support up to five solar arrays. Must be built around a main sequence star. Provides 1500N per day total (5,000N 5,000M)
Harvester Dock – A large pier built along the shore overlooking the spore-producing ocean film that serves as an unloading area for Harvester drones, and contains pipelines to pump collected raw nutrients to the hive’s awaiting processing facilities, includes a single Harvester which is covered by the cost and upkeep of the dock. Provides 500N per day total (38N 50M)
Orbital electroponic station – An orbital instillation built near a large source of hydrogen used to fuel a large fusion core, which in turn provides electrical power to a contained algae farm facility. Must be built in orbit of a gas giant. Provides +2000N per day and doubles as a gas mining facility, refueling the tritium stores of any ships in the system. The station itself can serve as the hub of a space city with additional investment. (3000M)
Algae Farm – A carved out space used to utilize Leeland’s natural electrical field to cultivate food. +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain.

>>2994987
Yes, there are several long term projects I know I was unable to show properly in the update, either due to forgetting or not having the time for, but I'm working on making a kind of rolling wave of improvements to things as we go, so I do have a few dozen tabs of just highlighted past posts of things that need addressing and a word document filled with a to-do list still which I am whittling down bit by bit.
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>>2994947
Oh shit that sounds terrible QD. Fuck man, I hope you feel better soon!
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>>2994994
sure. I'd second building them on all colonies really.
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>>2994994
Would rather focus in building the gas statiin tech so we can have some use for the gas giants around our territory.

Also the nuke the Union used in blowi g up to deny us acess to Union tech. Lol the idiots don't even know we already have the plans for their ships.
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Hydroponic platform – A floating greenhouse platform used to grow farmland through hydroponics that can only be built on or near water with open access to plentiful sunlight. Each greenhouse platform supports roughly one hectare and requires a single worker to tend the crop and maintain the platform. Multiple platforms can be connected together to create fields of floating farmland. +200N per day, 1 worker to maintain.
Filter towers – A large underwater pylon built to extract raw nutrients from the microbial life of the surrounding ecosystem. Can only be used on planets with bountiful biospheres and deep oceans capable of supporting large amounts of microbes. Provides between 100 and 500 N per day, depending on the local environment. (500M)
Capillary Tower – This massive organic space elevator offers a number of logistical and economic advantages, despite its drastic up front cost and fragile nature. Shuttles or space craft are no longer needed to move resources from the surface to orbital structures, freeing shuttles for more important tasks. The counterweight station serves as a center for construction, with 4 docking pylons included on the structure to repair and build ships, while gaining a bonus to capital ship construction time due to the speedy nature with which resources arrive from the surface. The Capillary Tower can also spread hive creep and extract resources at an increased rate, spreading roots deep into the crust to bring up resources directly into orbit, allowing you to consume a planet much more quickly than normal. A Hive ship can construct a Capillary Tower if given the time and resources to do so, deploying one after 3 full days, after which it becomes the counterweight station, and must remain stationary until it detaches and destroys the tower to move. A Hive ship deployed in this way does not have access to its spinal weapons, but can use other features as normal. A planet can hold a max of 4 Capillary Towers along its equator. For each one, planetary mining or over harvest activities are doubled and its Development score increases by 10, this bonus can surpass a planet's maximum development, and will not affect its biosphere. Upkeep is reduced by half on planets with an atmosphere. (50,000N 500,000M)

>Begin new construction (write in)
>Adjust espionage hives (write in)
>Other
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We really need to perform some "maintenance" on our Hive owned human worlds before all out anarchy breaks out across several of them.
We need to reinforce our claim, maybe couple Hive military presence with city building programs and quality of life improvements.
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>>2994998
>>2994993
>>2994987
We should terraform the place the union corporation abandoned just to be smug and show on their faces what the hive can do.
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>>2995006
Hey QD what's up with P2?
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Hmm.
Leeland is just missing a military spaceport and Weather Spire network (and 3 more capillary towers, but that's expenssive).
Religha could use a Psionic Shroud and Sensor.

What do you guys think?
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>>2994996
We need to go and see to a lot of things and finite time to do them, this guy seems like he could be an hours-long tangent so he can get in line.

First we could focus on setting in motion the research on silicate biology, since it's probably relevant to those psychic moons. A fleet getting living samples from Nowhere should have results by now.

And then there's the Project Aegis suit.

And we could start implementing Mother Knows Best on all hive-controlled locales immediately for the much needed PR reversal.
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>>2995006
>Begin new construction (write in)
Spore Caster Network on all already established colonies
Shield Dome Network on all already established colonies
>Adjust espionage hives (write in)
Increase to passive observation on all Union worlds
Set Mother Knows Best active on owned human populated planets
>Other
Visibly colonize all worlds not currently populated by humans.
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>>2995014
The resources are probably just listed as N/A because actually landing ships there is next to impossible. The tidal forces of gravity there are so intense they're continually tearing up the surface of the planet, if memory serves.

There really isn't anything shady about the planet from the way it was described.
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>>2995024
How much is that gonna cost?
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>>2995006
>>Adjust espionage hives (write in)
Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration
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>>2995006
>Begin new construction (write in)
>Begin Developing any world with a worthwhile N score
>Give the Valen a heads up and assure them we won't fuck with their hypergate.
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>>2995002
Thanks, I already feel better actually, just a bit tender from all the tooth excavation, but it's so much better than it was before.

Even still though, there are a lot of adjustments I've been wanting to make to better streamline the system, and I'm working as best I can to get those adjustments rolled out nice and proper, but things will fall through the cracks, so please just yell at me about them when you notice. Anytime that happens I just open a tab with that post highlighted and use it as a bookmark to get to after the thread is over. In general though, I plan on having things pick up the pace a bit and plan to avoid any more .2 threads that are not bonus mid-week threads if I can help it, unless something major and time sensitive is happening of course.

>>2995014
A long, long time ago you all voted to send a pod to the surface with some drones to explore it, and then I forgot all about it like an idiot between all the hiatuses and the heart exploding and the computer troubles and what not. I figured I'd hold off on the stats until after we properly explore it in person, since it is long overdue.
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>>2995026
>nothing shady about strange crystal growths on a planet
>when the last strange rock formation was a defense system and all silicon life looks rocklike
Sure.
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>>2995024
I second the colonisation of everything we can. Also we should make a public address or something to calm the people. Possibly organise a ceremony for the change in administration?
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>>2995006
>>Begin new construction (write in)
Spore Caster Network 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Cost 14,600N 62,000M

Just to start
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>>2995006
>Begin new construction (write in)
>Shield dome network (Leeland)
>Colonize P3 and Start building
Weather Spire network

>Other: Send a small fleet to protect the space around our biggest population centers. (Deckdards [although lyle and gang should be droppi g the remaning Union spies here] Acheron and Bedrock
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>>2995006
>>Begin new construction (write in)
Bedrock:
Replace the Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.

Calpamos Station:
Replace Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.
Replace [Rest Stop] and [Slipway] with two more [Merchant Docks].
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>>2994963
I bet Theseus has the tech needed to repair Calampos station. Anyone else thi k it might be worth sharing it with him discreetly if we don't mind sharing resources?

If we establish this place as a trade route he could use it to spread instances to traveling merchants
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>>2995017
At least Lyle and gang are going there to drop the spies we rescued from the Valen. Maybe he can do some free service to the new Lord Deckard.
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>>2995024
>on all Union worlds
Not good. There's one exception to this being a good idea.

We gotta do Maintain Concealment on Path until the military lockdown is over.
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>>2995043
Maybe we could just ask them to meet with us and to talk this out and get to know how we can make things work between us.
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>>2995050
>not replacing the red light district
what
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>>2995024
Maybe sending Mother Knows Best to Bedrock would be a good idea?
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>>2995030
I think like 44k nutrients and 186k metal?
>>2995053
Fair. I forgot to account for Path.
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>>2995036
>Give the Valen a heads up and assure them we won't fuck with their hypergate.
Support not being dicks to the Valen.

Other than that >>2995024 sounds pretty good. Let’s colonize what we can.
Also supporting any specific building options that grow opportunities and don’t fuck with the Union/Valen too much. The hive can play nice.
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>>2995006
Proposals

>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration
>Keep as is
>Other (write in)

>>Begin new construction
Leeland 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Spore Caster Network

You also have a number of unexploited worlds, many of them are barren or otherwise lack a standard biosphere, but many at least would make for a suitable source of large amounts of water ice, and thus a decent enough source of nutrients.

>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in) [system and planet to avoid confusion]
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>>2995053
Good call about Path. We need to hide out on Path until the lockdown is lifted. They’ll find the OQ’s shit soon enough and call us in to help anyway.
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>>2995055
There are still humans inside. And Humans care more about their sex then their tech.
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>>2995059
>>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration

Arnim is cashmoney, we want to do Currency and Capital on there one day so we can connect all the other espionage hives through free smuggling.
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>>2995059
>>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration


>>Begin new construction
Leeland 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Spore Caster Network


>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)
G-462 (Home system) P1, P3, and an expedition to P2 just to sort out what it's like down there.
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>>2995050
Speaking of Bedrock, since the system it's in is right at the border of the Union i think we should convert the station into a mix of star hive and ship customs for travel into our space, what do other anons think?
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>>2995059
>>2995024
Modified with maintain concealment on Path
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>>2995068
As long as it doesn’t piss off the locals or helps us improve their quality of life I’m good with that.
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>>2995061
We still have 10 of our hive agents on Path they can easily sneak a egglayer and buy something using From Other money to build a small coorporate building/warehouse.
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>>2995074
Star hive fucks their quality of life.
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>>2995059
>>Other (write in)
Oh yeah.

Mother Knows Best on:

Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

and can we add Tachyonic Drill asabove to those two spacecities?
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>>2995074
Seeing as a number of people evacuated the station i think we can change some of the wards, maybe even the hub itself?
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>>2995059
>Set Coral Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Talgo to Passive Observation, begin Invasive Research
>Set Arnim to Covert Infiltration
>Set Mentan to Covert Infiltration

>Begin new construction
Leeland 6,000N 12,000M
Shield dome network 8,600N 50,000M
Spore Caster Network

Seems to indeed be the general consensus
>Y/N

>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)
[G-462]
P1
P3

>Add others (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>2995068
We were going to turn Bedrock into a place to research stuff with Union Scientist. Maybe sending one of our forces there to help pacify stuff would help.
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>>2995078
Oh.
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>>2995082
>Y to all
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>>2995082
>Add others (write in)
Leeland P1, P3. Kaltara, Djin, Darwin, Brandenburg, Norfolk, Tannhauser, Desmond P1, P2.
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>>2995082
Oh does anyone else think we should turn the emptied asteroid un Leelands system into a Star Hive to build up our defenses there?
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>>2995082
>>Y

>Add others (write in)
[A-295]
Frozen Ice planet
Binary volcanic planets V1, v2
Barren radioactive planet

[Desmond]
P2
Asteroid belt
Ice planet

It occurred to me that we may as well use this time to start scraping resources from planets that have long been under our control but not exploited.
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>>2995090
Not Djin genius. That's where Cluster is.
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>>2995094
Who better than us to make sure they stay slep?
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>>2995082
>Y

>>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)

Kaltara and the Binary volcanic planets, V1 and V2, are all at Metals 100. Colonize and begin mantle mining on those.

Construct a capillary tower on Kaltara.

Also, start at least a small hive on Darwin.
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>>2995083
>keeping a research station right next door to the union.
Uhh... what exactly is the plan for that? Do we just have the humans research unique but nonvital stuff and anytime they do get a great idea we move the team deeper into our space? Cause i was thinking of turning the ancient builder dockyard into a fleet builder and research station like it was in the past.
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>>2995096
Ideally someone who wouldn't wake them up with the sound of heavy construction coming from every direction. Seriously, we'd be roommates from hell for them.
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>>2995082
>Begin exploitation of new planets (write in)

Oh we haven't landed an overt hive on Kerik Ashka. Do that.
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>>2995082
>Y

Also okay with colonizing other planets as long as we definitely DO NOT touch Djin. That planet belongs to the Cluster.
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>>2995097
Supporting building Hive on Darwin. That's where the Union got the psionic skyl artifacts they shoved into Ryan's eye
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>>2995098
Mostly the plan is to use that so we can snatch the scientist that are deep connected with Union governament and put then in some small low Hive tech.

Then while they are in the station we seduce then and have then defect to the Hive, be it with the promise of researching more hibe exclusive tech or something else.
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>>2995082
Also,
>Tell Valen we won’t fuck with their wormhole station and invite them to begin trading.
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>>2995110
We should set up trade routes now.
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>>2995082

>Y
>Exploit additional planets
[Desmond]
P1
P2
Ice planet

[Dagmar]
Kaltara

>Aprove
>Not now
>Adjust
>Add others (write in)

>Adjust domestic policies
Mother Knows Best on:
Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

>Approve
>Not now
>Other (write in)
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>>2995108
Good call. I think I remember (it was a long time ago, don’t quote me on this) that we suspected Darwin was a hive planet.
Supporting colonizing Darwin.
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>>2995098
It's solely useful as a skunkworks project.

They come to us to accelerate their research into fields we've never looked at before. Their research gets done without budget limitations, and we get the research unlocked for ourselves in exchange.

Now we're the NPC who offers to help for a price.
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>>2995120
>Add others (write in)
Darwin

>Adjust domestic policies
>Approve
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>>2995120
>Exploit additional planets
[Desmond]
P1
P2
Ice planet

[Dagmar]
Kaltara

>Aprove


>Adjust domestic policies
Mother Knows Best on:
Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

>Approve
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>>2995120
>>Adjust
QD, you forgot V1 and V2 at A-295. Two of the most metals-rich targets.

Also colonize Darwin.

Approve everything else. Colonizing and policies.

Can we build a capillary tower on the Metals-rich world of Kaltara or do we have to wait until it's colonized more?
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>>2995120
>Approve
+add Darwin

The ice planet is NOT the Cluster planet, right?
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>>2995139
seconded
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>>2995083
On that note i wonder what the Commonwealth will do. They will send scientists i guess but we should make certain they don't butt heads with each other. Should we also ask the Valen if they want to participate? We should also ask if Theseus participating in Bedrock research will be allowed. To help people learn about the Unity in a peaceful way.
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>>2995140
Djin is the Cluster planet.
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Also to the anon that spoked about us upseating the local population.

We have anti-setients in the expanse and eco-terrorist. They will be upset anyway.
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>>2995120
>Add others
Darwin

[A-295]
V1
V2

>Y/N

>Approved domestic policy adjustments

>>2995139
You will need to wait for your hive to be established there. You could set it up to start building immediately, but I think we've hung up on these votes long enough, I think that can wait for the next day.
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>>2995120
>>Aprove

>Adjust domestic policies
Mother Knows Best on:
Acheron
Deckard's Claim
Bedrock
Billiard

>Not now

I'd rather make actual diplomatic contact with the people we've just inherited from the Union and their factions before brute forcing our policies on them. I don't think the humans watching from the Union would not approve of this.
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>>2995144
We should make it exclusive to the Union for now just to make it feel like we aren't helping the enemy.
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>>2995144
No need to include the Valen. Research is just research we can Trade techs with the Valen then push that for our thinkers to introduce to the humans. I would rather to keep it a Union/Hive thing for now.
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>>2994966
>[Telarum]
>Krasnikov Interstellar corporate outpost
>[Sentinel]
>Sentinel Post

These are full blown space cities, aren't they? I guess they'll be statted out later? The first one has to be, to have been using a Star Drill Ward.
>>2995153
>>Y

Wish we could start on the Drill though so it's ready later to be a real trade hub at Koenig:

Calpamos Station:
Replace Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.
Replace [Rest Stop] and [Slipway] with two more [Merchant Docks].
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>>2995160
No to replacing the Barracks. It helps keep order.
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>>2995155
Anon the other planets don't have human population. Read QD again Only Bedrock, Deckcards and Acheron has a human population.
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>>2995166
Disorder is extremely unlikely to be a problem when we have Customs already there to keep order and and screen out problems before they happen.
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>Y

Finished Research
>Artillery Spore
While the use of anti-orbital weapons has traditionally been limited in the Hive to atmospheric saturation fire by surface gun platforms, with any actual orbital threats handled by picket fleets, there are a few notable exceptions. One such exception, which was considered a mainstay of the defenses of throne worlds in its time, was the Artillery Spore. Launched from a large Spore Caster set along the surface, each spore was a large, roughly Space Pod sized device composed of a diamond lattice shell ending in a tapered point etched with sensor ports along the diameter, and a body consisting of a specialized sub-brain and a miniaturized and heavily altered Skid Drive. The Skid Drive itself is modified for enhanced acceleration and performance within a gravity well at the cost of drastically reducing overall maneuverability and stability. It is so unstable, in fact, that the acceleration is not entirely uniform and suffers from extreme inertia. The resulting G-forces are terminal for the spore itself, and in fact any life form known to exist, with the spore possessing no actual life support functions, and enough oxygenated blood within its sub-brain to reach the target, and nothing more. The result is a Skid Drive that effectively pushes off against the planet not unlike a standard rocket, but with far, far more potency. Once in the air, the pod will guide itself to its target until it reaches a determined distance, at which point the drive wings will deliberately offset by seventeen degrees, resulting in a sudden and ever increasing spin that will eviscerate the internal organs of the spore in less than two seconds. From this moment, the spore is an unguided rocket, its drive functioning on a dead-man's switch as its spin causes its tapered shell to drill into the target's hull, at which point one of two things will happen: the drive wings will be pulled off by the impact with the target, or will be torn off by the increasing centripetal force. In either case, the drive itself is triggered as a makeshift warhead, and it immediately performs what could only be described as a kind of impotent blink, wherein the drive expels a massive radiation burst, hopefully inside the target's hull and destroying it from within, or in the event of a miss, blinding it and nearby vessels with a sudden burst of both tachyons and multi-spectrum radiation capable of damaging or destroying smaller craft akin to a kind of flak.

>>2995160
The first is a corporate mining station, it is a space city, but it is privately owned and thus, while taxable and under your legal jurisdiction, you have no direct control over it. The second is a mostly-scrapped Union star fort, little is left apart from the metal armor and a few bare corridors, with most of the valuables and all even tangentially confidential content removed or destroyed. It's not currently suitable to sustain life but could be repaired into a Star Hive for free
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>>2995160
>Calpamos Station:
>Replace Barracks with a Tachyonic Drill.
>Replace [Rest Stop] and [Slipway] with two more [Merchant Docks].
I'm rather leery of massively restructuring human designed habitats this early. Keep in mind this still less than a week after we publicly declared the expanse as Hive territory. This a crawl for us, but for humanity events are unfolding at light speed. How would it look to them if we showed up without any warning or notice to Bedrock and immediately demolished a 1/6 of the city for our star drives?

I think we should at least make an effort to convey what's happening to the people living in these cities before we start changing them up left and right. Could protect us from any anti-Hive sentiments brewing across Human space.
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>>2995153
>Y
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>>2995170
Customs mitigates problems just like the Barracks. Both are need for maximum effect.
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>>2995175
New Research Available
>Psionic cloak amplification
Fast
Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

Current Research
Your thinkers assemble themselves to focus on a number of different research topics, allowing you to choose one as your primary topic, and two as secondary research projects. The primary research project will receive three rolls per day for progress, while secondary projects receive two. In addition to your thinkers, you may gain additional research rolls from other sources. Vassal Hives shall offer their own thinkers to you as tribute and non-hive allies specialized in research all can be used to run their own Auxiliary research projects, granting one roll per day each. Multiple Auxiliary rolls can be assigned to the same research subject, and if left alone, will choose a topic of their own interest. A vassal hive may research anything, while non-hive allies possess specializations in their fields of study, and offer special bonuses when researching subjects in their fields.

Additional rolls can be purchased from external sources through trade or political treaties with Theseus and other factions. Such external rolls can be assigned to any research project, including your Primary or Secondary projects, and all participating factions will receive the research upon its completion.

+++Primary
>Advanced Psionic Imprinting

++Secondary
>Psionic Spores
>Gas Giant Superstructure Construction

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
>Empty

Elizabeth Vaughn
Specializations: Xenobiology, Quantum Mechanics, Psionics
Bonus: Zealous – Rolls twice and takes the highest result. Cannot negate critical failures.
>Empty

Adam Seiner
Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting
Bonus: Reticent – 50% chance of turning a Critical Failure into a regular failure.
UNAVAILABLE

External
Theseus
>Joint Research Project
This joint research agreement shares all pertinent data regarding the Obsidian Queen and her forces. This project grants Theseus access to basic Hive biological technology and automatically assists in reverse engineering Obsidian Queen technology. All rolls made for relevant technology is rolled twice and uses the best result.
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>>2995175
>. It's not currently suitable to sustain life but could be repaired into a Star Hive for free
>Star Hive
>For free
Well that's all I need to hear, let's do it

>>2995169
There are people living on Billiard. How they do it I don't know but they're there.
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>>2995098
We could have an open research station (Bedrock) for scientists to research what they want, potentially gaining technology we would never have thought of and if any scientists agree, we can have them research more secret technologies (like what Elisabeth and Seiner do) but they would have to defect to the Hive and move to another facility.
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Available Research Options

Multidimensional Physics
Slow/Slightly dangerous
Until now you have been entirely ignorant to the workings of the Void and the self proclaimed gods that rule this mysterious space. Now you realize some semblance of the truth, although any proper understanding comes with its own inherent risks of attracting unwanted attention, such understanding, you realize now, was the backbone of the galaxy spanning civilization of the ancient Hives of the Golden Age, long before the Schism began. Regaining such lost knowledge would be a great step towards rebuilding your race as the galactic superpower it once was.

Non-euclidean Architecture
Very Slow/Dangerous
The basis of the very crystal you now posses, as well as the hostile Void Shards, the process of compressing spacetime along the axis of a fourth spacial dimension is a key component to many technological devices of the Ancients in their prime. Such technologies explain the process by which the void shards function, as well as allow for the vast complexity of the memory archive you hold, compressing vast amounts of energy and matter into a pocket space where such terms are interchangeable and largely meaningless.

Psionic Thought Construction
Very Slow
The brief understanding granted to you by your examination of the contents of the white crystal given to you by your late mother, you realize that tachyons, like nearly any other form of particle, can be used in the construction of physical objects. Such constructs are inherently unstable outside of the multidimensional space of the Void, however, but allow for the construction machines of immeasurable complexity with relatively little effort by constructing them in a space where thoughts can be projected as concrete materials.

Empathetic Compulsion
Slow
A step further from the disruption of the nervous system, with additional fine tuning it may be possible to exert some limited control over an individual mind without the use of direct contact.

Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
Medium
Using a mixture of space station technology and modified, miniaturized capillary towers, it may be possible to create semi-permanent or fully permanent hives within the upper atmospheres of gas giants, where a mixture of atmospheric static, wind farming, and gas mining can provide a more constant and bountiful resource income while providing a more robust frame with which to construct infrastructure.

Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.
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>>2995190
Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.

Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.

Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.

Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.
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>>2995175
Holy shit, Spore artilary is fucking scary weapon.
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>>2995183
Scarred Queen is assigned to the Psionic cloak amplification
Elizabeth will begin research on Psionic Thermokinesis. I want big brains cooling our ship shields.
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>>2995185
Floating cities and airships.
>>2995189
Sure but we'd need the Research ward for that.
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>Psionic Spores
Slow
While normally the hive spores used to spread infrastructure are little more than genetically engineered nanomachines, replicating and performing their function alone until their built structure is complex enough to receive mental signals, your mixture of psionic research and advancements in spore related genetic programming has made the idea of a psionically sensitive spore seem not nearly as far fetched as it once did. With a mixture of distributed networking and complex cellular reconstruction methods, it could be possible to create a spore strain that would respond to mental signals.

>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Slow
With the application of psionic imprinting you are able to influence and alter the state of matter using only focused and precise mental signals. Your thinkers believe this can be taken further, using more accurate signals and more precise manipulation methods to imprint more complex thoughts and ideas more quickly and easily, and at a greater range.

>Personal shielding
Slow
By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

>Data decryption
Medium (Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
While much of the data within the Smith mind was corrupted during the experimental extraction process or the trauma of the agent's death, there is still a good deal of encrypted data still intact. The data itself could be anything, from a revolutionary discovery to the agent's personal preference in music, or anything between. There is now way to know without decryption of the data, and the total randomness of the mystery has your thinkers begging to go to work.

>Planetary Shielding
Slow
By adding further scale to the shield dome, it is believed that an overlapping network of shields can be expanded from a series of clustered protective areas defending a planet's critical infrastructure to a vast, near total coverage shield stretching entire continents so as to protect a planet's biosphere and widespread population in addition to its military and industrial zones.

>Psionic Cannon prototype
Very slow/Very dangerous
Detailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The cannon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.
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>>2995198
No to assigning Elizabeth resea you slave driver.
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>>2995202
but I must unlock additional research options
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>>2995183

Set the Scarred Queen to researching Psionic Cloak Amplification
Set Vaughn to Psionic Spores?
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>>2995201
You really have some creative research ideas.
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>>2995198
Put Vaughn on Empathetic Compulsion. We need more infiltration powers sooner than we need pyromancy or force lightning.
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Did we tell Theseus we resurrected seiner yet?
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>>2995204
NO
>>2995208
Do you want her to break? She need a vacation.
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Why isn't Elizabeth unavailable? Mother said it's mandatory relaxation time!
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>>2995208
muh cryokinesis and thermal control in space.
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>>2995183
>+++Primary
>>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Damn Thinkers still didn't finish that even with 3 rolls?

Thing's been on the menu since thread 49. Usually we're much luckier.
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>>2995214
>>2995219
I completely forgot about this. That's right, it's vacation episode time.
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>>2995201
Man i want personnal Shielding and Planetary Shielding so badly. imagine never having to worry about debries from the Obisiqn Hive ever again because we simply cover the entire planet with a shield layer.
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>>2995223
That's not until the black metal concert.

Wait when is that exactly.
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>>2995227
It could be now.
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>>2995197
I wonder... if we copied the spongy adaption obsidian used to attempt stealth on us and coated the shell with it to help reduce viability range.
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>>2995221
All our luck went to the Scav war anon.
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Isn't it a better idea to finish faster research first? Or have most of the research slots filled by them?
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>>2995233
Faster research is better.
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>>2995227
>>2995230

Dunno it has how much time in game passed? A day? Usually these shows aren't that fast. But maybe that is just Union politics.
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>>2995201
Hey Quest, did we ever have a mobile shield generator type upgrade for some of our bigger ground and air forces? Just wondering if we could use such a thing to soak artillery or flack for a time to prolong battle group lifespan.
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>>2995231
What i want to know is if we can equip this artilary with our bio-weapons...
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>>2995237
Union politics is hilariously slow paced but I want to give her a few days of spa treatment before the concert anyway.
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>>2995235
I'm asking because most research slots are currently filled with Slow researches while we have a number of Medium and even Very Fast availiable.
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>>2995243

See
>>Personal shielding
>Slow
>By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

It's still in R&D phase.
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>>2995243
i believe that is what the new research for perssonnel shielding it's. First we put in a drone then into a bigger drone!!Then by the end we have a Titan with Personnel shielding!!!
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>>2995245
The spore launcher is just an impotent blink drive warhead.
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>>2995245
Well the shell could be modified to inject parasite drones into a ship probably instead of exploding. Full on starship troopers 2 horror movie on a ship.

>>2995250
Was thinking an area shield as opposed to personal.
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>>2995252
Also add the Queen, Hive agents and Boarding Pods to the potential users.
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>>2995258
Isn't the Shield Dome what you're loooking for?
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>>2995258
That would be Shield dome we already got that tech.
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>>2995262
>>2995268
I was asking if we had a drone based upgrade to project it over a battlegroup.

Sorry been a while since i reread our last ground combat sequence, must have missed it if we do.
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
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>>2994947
>Arnim
>[Maintain Concealment]
>This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

I just realized this must be what Union stock markets must look like right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Q6wWu5ziY
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>>2995274
Photon projectors can do something similar.
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>>2995259
Lyle with an ironman suit and personal shielding. The Void doesn't stand a chance.
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>>2995277
The vahlen bow to the bogdabots
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>>2995201
You have new research to examine, and as you are about to do so you are interrupted.

Your thinkers, eager and willing, have a minor problem. Your concert has attracted more attention than you first thought it would, and as smaller, more niche bands start to follow in the wake of the others, sending more and more requests to attend, you quickly realize you have vastly underestimated the overall scale of this event's potential.

While you could easily manage the medical needs of a small event, no more than a few dozen thousand, as more bands request to perform, the event is quickly turning from a single band tour to a massive once-in-a-lifetime multi-day event with the potential to attract many hundreds of thousands of people, a number that will begin to tax your overall thinker capacity with medical problems.

Your thinkers do have a solution, however. By diverting a small portion of your research capacity, you would not only be able to more aptly cover the visitors' medical issues, but also perform unobtrusive biological and psychological research on those attending, potentially granting you greater insight into the various sub-cultures of the single-minded. You suspect Elizabeth would be an excellent choice with her background in xeno-biology, and perhaps it would do her well to attend the event and get out of the lab for a few days.

>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
>Do not (Elizabeth will be free to research new subjects, the concert will remain its current planned size)
>Other
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Holy fuck this is still alive? I remember when this quest first started. I am legally obligated to remind everyone Lee is best Waifu
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>>2995201
Also i would say the Scarred Queen researches Psionic cloak amplification and Elizabeth goes on a vacation.
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>>2995281
>Not the bogdabugs.
Cmon anon.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
>>2995290
FUCK
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
Wow we're popular.
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)

The publicity alone makes it worth it, but we may be able to "study" some interesting creatures (such as Valen) at the Concert and having Elizabeth on hand would be a boon.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
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>>2995274
>>2995279
Photon/Hardlight Armour maybe?
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>>2995284
QD, about how many days would Elizabeth be wrapped up with the concert affairs? I'd like to know how long we're taking our head researcher out of the lab before making a decision.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
THERES NO PARTY LIKE A HIVE PARTY

>>2995288
Lee is pretty much the Hive's legal husband at this point.
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)

Time for Hive Woodstock!!
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)

Give her a night to remember...
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>>2995284
>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs
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>>2995284
Also make certain she makes an incognito appearance or she has heavy guard with her.
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)


>>2995308
Probably wouldn't be more than a week?
But she really does need a vacation, and being an academic, it's not like she'd take a vacation vacation, so having this lets her relax a bit while also working on things.
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>>2995308
She needs to relax a little and what better place to have a Xeno specialist then a social even with mutiple alien species?
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>>2995284
>>Have Elizabeth oversee the Concert's medical needs (Elizabeth will be unable to research subjects for the duration, will unlock new research subjects on completion, the Concert will be expanded into a larger event)
Aww yeah.

We should have part of our fleet on standby for "aerial" shows that can be watched through viewing screens and observation decks and windows. Show them some impressive maneuvers only a hive mind could pull off.
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>2995201
>(Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
If it's so Very Fast how is it not already done yesterday?

Gotta talk to Theseus's manager.
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Oh boy I made it this time. Haven't been on /qst/ since you took your break.
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>>2995317
>>2995322
A week is like, at least 14 threads IRL. I'm fine with Elizabeth decompressing for a bit but that is a huge amount of time and research for the hive at a very critical time.
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>>2995326
Because it isn't in the research slot yet. We only have three of those.
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>>2995290
>>2995293
Imagine the amount of economical chaos we can cause with our trading were we not focusing on building for war. I think it would look something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5QlSgq7lg
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>>2994947
>This planet is currently reeling from a sudden and sharp rise in interstellar economic instability, resulting in widespread panic among the economic elites and a local pension crisis among lower class employees as a result of the sudden flash-crash of a number of megacorporations' stock values, a sharp rise in interest rates, and the reduction of a number of Expanse prospecting related market trackers to penny-stock status. The lower classes suffering from the sudden loos of pensions and savings are demanding answers, and protests have broken out, with riots outside several major banks. Anti-xeno sentiment is growing rapidly, against both Valen banking clans and Hive territorial claims.

Perhaps we should consider making some sort of Hive Currency, for human subjects in our systems to use. That way we could make a credit profit from people converting credits to our money, which we can use when we want to do buisness with the Union.
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>>2995284
You send the details to Elizabeth, and while confused at the overall plan, she understands her expertise will be needed. Likewise, the various bands' managers are pleased to hear the news, and your workers once again begin expanding the venue into a massive multi-gravitational complex, using gravity plating to create a massive concert hall with both proper acoustics and a space efficiency beyond what would normally be physically possible. You turn back to the other research matters.

>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
>Request the Scarred Queen's thinkers move to something else
>Other
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>>2995326
We should talk to Theseus's parents (Elizabeth and Seiner), and complain about their bad parenting and son's lack of a work ethic.
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>>2995330
She can still do research using the medical pods do probe the alien teens minds and injecting then with parasites to become hive agents.

A good way to male our image and have her show off the biological augments she has. Maybe the nerd that is a Theseus agent wi replace his second set of arms for a hive one.
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>>2995331
It was started before the finite slots system existed.

>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal

>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995337
>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal

psionic cloaking is the way to go.
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>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995337
>>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
I don't know exactly what this proposal is, but it involves more research by the only other living queen, so I'm all for it.
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>>2995337
>Approve of the Scarred Queen's research proposal
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>>2995338
It's all cuz his father left him to pursue an older woman. Millions of years older than him, even.
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>>2995337
>while confused at the overall plan
You're not the only one. I think our thinkers are faulty.
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>>2995357
kek
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>>2995353
She is researching psionic cloaking so it is able to cover a entire planet with it.
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>>2995337
It's too bad so many Commonwealth planets have such strict immigration and emigration laws.

Not many of their teens are able to legally leave their home planet to go to this sweet concert.
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>>2995368
I am reminded of the first time we came up with the idea of cloaking an entire planet in one of the early threads, back when it seemed completely impossible. Nice to see the dream never died.
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>>2995378
Eh i'm pretty sure they are not even aware of that and are much more worried with the two front war that is happening in their territory.
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+++Primary
>Advanced Psionic Imprinting

++Secondary
>Psionic Spores
>Gas Giant Superstructure Construction

+Auxiliary
Scarred Queen
Psionic cloak amplification
Fast
Your vassal has proposed a new scientific effort to study a means to more accurately replicate the psionic cloaking of the Phantoms in order to potentially mimic their capacity to focus their cloaking abilities over larger areas, potentially allowing a Hive world to mimic the planetary scale mental blurring caused by their population centers' major centers of worship.

Elizabeth Vaughn
Specializations: Xenobiology, Quantum Mechanics, Psionics
Bonus: Zealous – Rolls twice and takes the highest result. Cannot negate critical failures.
>Busy with random event: The Heavy Metal Queen

Adam Seiner
Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting
Bonus: Reticent – 50% chance of turning a Critical Failure into a regular failure.
UNAVAILABLE

External
Theseus
>Joint Research Project
This joint research agreement shares all pertinent data regarding the Obsidian Queen and her forces. This project grants Theseus access to basic Hive biological technology and automatically assists in reverse engineering Obsidian Queen technology. All rolls made for relevant technology is rolled twice and uses the best result.

Elizabeth watches the scavenger broodmother stir in the medical pod as workers shuffle back and forth carrying various pieces of equipment and crates of luggage with her mental direction. More easily replicable equipment is already being assembled in your space city into a designated chamber within the resort, part laboratory, part medical center. Her mind seems cloudy with recent events. She closes her eyes and thinks of elsewhere in the hive, her vision shifting to the eyes of some wall mounted sensor cluster as she watches Seiner meditate in silence. His mind is gone, at least from your own psionic sense, though his brain shows a similar pattern to that of a human state of dreaming, but the information within is obscured from you, muddled, as if his mind were not truly there, but just a shadow of the true physical self. Whatever implants were provided to him within the vault, it seems to be having its effect. The occipital lobe of the brain shows increasing alterations, and parts of the nervous system are firing in ways that should not be possible for a human's biology, while his vital signs have slowed, as if entering some manner of hibernation.

Cont.
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>>2995388
We have come pretty far.
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>>2995378
This reminds me that we should be sending more stealth pods into commonwealth space and infiltrating their space as well.
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>>2995397
Wait...is Seiner doing cultivation?At least that's what it looks like. It seems he will be on it for a long time if that is the case...
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>>2995393
Doesn't it depend on the planet? There are feudal worlds in the Commonwealth whose inhabitants don't probably know what happens outside of their village.
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>>2995401
We have so much stuff to do already lets focus in our current space okay?
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>>2995397
I'm still kinda sad we brutally murdered the original Seiner, instead continuing his work with a clone.
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>>2995378
>>2995393

I love the fact we been playing up this angle of not giving a fuck about all these wars going on, acting as if this is all beneath us and how pathetic the humans are

I mean union and commonwealth high commands are completely right about how bad the optics would be if they behaved like how we throwing a concert on a just opened resort while these wars going on

Its a real "Let them eat cake" moment and we can get away with it since we been playing up the ancient and all powerful aliens angle
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>>2995410
fiiine
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>>2995397
>automatically assists in reverse engineering Obsidian Queen technology. All rolls made for relevant technology is rolled twice and uses the best result.

Do we even know what we found in the OQ hive ship wreckage yet?

This hasn't been a very productive teamup, Theseus.
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>>2995409
Well we advertised our place to the Commonwealth and most of the major lords, leaders generals and admirals said that they would rather wait the war to be over.

Maybe a young teen heard about the show and wants to experiment?
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>>2995408
He's on a spirit quest.
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>>2995414
>yes yes you younglings go have your war. Mother will be there after you make up with cookies and concerts.
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>>2995397
>Busy with random event: The Heavy Metal Queen
Sounds Brutal. You know I wonder if we could make treating people at the event a spectacle like having a guard zero gravity dunk an overdose victim into the biotanks across the room.
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>>2995397
>Busy with random event: The Heavy Metal Queen

So should we discuss hive produced memorabilia and or clothing to commemorate the event with one of a kind items that will never be reproduced again to artificially raise their value and infuse the market with highly coveted death metal themed hive products.
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>>2995414
Need to do some politics nothing stop us to do war AND politics at the same time. The humans are just too bad in doing the two at the same time.
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>>2995425
I just can't wait for the zero-g mosh pit. Motherfuckers will get thrown around like balloons.
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>>2995428
Metallic pets! Everything you find in the petshop except an eight the size and a skin made of metal!
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>>2995425
Well it's not really a zero-gravity dunk, is it.

It's an ever shifting and readjusting vector and intensity of gravity that does half the dunking for you.
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>>2995414
I've been thinking about this a lot, and the best response I can give anyone who asks is "the ancient hives fought with each other constantly. Death tolls measured in the trillions and damages in dozens of biospheres. They continued to fight even though they were beset by enemies, and this is why they are no more. However, you may repeat these mistakes if you wish: it is not the first time in recorded Human history that such an event has occurred."
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>>2995422
>Seiner will become our cult leader

Well i guess that Hive cult is becoming more and more likely as the time pass..
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>>2995425
Now that you mentioned it i wonder what the security at the event will be. Drones and human guards? Hive agents?
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>>2995441
is that more or less impressive?
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>>2995433
Except for the Skyl. Wings and all. Actually, the lack of gravity will make it even better for them/make them seem more badass.
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>>2995446
Drones with a large amount of speakers.
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>>2995428
Man the Valen are just going to have another stroke just like they had when we had our speaker talk with then using the voice of the dead.
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>>2995446
Lots of speakers, psionic-lockdown from multiple advanced relays, hardlight barriers. Overt Hive security agents.

We should probably bring some ships to guard it too. The concert is a pretty tempting target for the Ceph fleets and the emergence of the Skyl may draw their attention. There's also a (lower) risk of an OQ or Scav attack as well.
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>>2995446
I would say to use our Chimera's for that heavy death metal feel, but those are supposed to be a black-ops tier secret.
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>>2995446
Why not both?
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>>2995414
Yes, players foolishly voted for Commonwealth elites option, instead of picking the political pro-xeno option that has actual potential benefits.

But the pro-xeno Union fringe option chose us instead anyway. We missed out on the bonus of it having been our idea.

Although really if we adjusted the invitation to the Commonwealth masses instead now. But we'd have to lobby people like the imperial court in Aquarius to acknowledge this as a special occasion, celebrating the start of the holy crusade against the invaders or whatever, so relax the passport laws for a while.
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>>2995458
We could offer free “implants” to prevent psychic backlash.

>>2995463
If the Chimera wear armor they just look like fully armored humans. I actually support this idea.
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>>2995463
This just made me realize we could customize the appearance of everything to match the event including the drones and guards.
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>>2995466
Meh i just send the invitation to then first because i wanted to give the middle claw to the Union as a whole.
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>>2995466
Yeah, I thought the CW elite idea was too narrow as well. Oh well, at least we are getting *some* good press from union factions for this. We need it.
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We can't forget that we need to work on some recreational drugs to add to the party. All the drug dealers and gangs gonna try to enter the party to sell their stuff and we can parasite then and study the stuff.

The credits gonna flow from this concert!
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>>2995477
We've got a pretty damn impressive collection of chemicals already in the pastebin.
The real hard question is do we offer voluntary "basic healthcare" to the visitors in the form of secondary hearts?
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>>2995443
Uh dude we are the ones acting like assholes by doing this while whole worlds are burning in these wars

and i have no idea what moral message your trying to send with that message as the scav invasion is an extinction level event where putting everything into the war front is necessary given what we found out what happened to there other victims

And the union v commonwealth one, the union had it coming for being a bunch of dicks
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>>2995477
We should probably get samples of all the drugs that are going to be used at the event.
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>>2995461
I'm actually worried how the Ceph in the Union will react to the Skyl. Wil they recognise them as their masters betrayers? Will they connect them to the demons in the Ceph religion (the Hive but they don't realise that yet)?
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>>2995481
We've always come off as not caring what the lesser races do as long as they don't touch the important things. There's no moral message to send. As to the Scavs I believe the humans would eventually defeat the scavs even without our help with the scavs apparent reliance on the worldships making them a huge target for a gravitic kamikaze.
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>>2995499
ah ok my bad
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>>2995481
My point is that if the humans complain about us taking sides in their war, we can't claim to have a moral high ground because different hives fought all the time and on a much more devastating scale, and uninvolved parties did not intervene. Also while the scav invasion is certainly as bad as you say, the ancient queens are all dead precisely because of this kind of infighting even in the face of incoming external threat.

So basically, knowing both humanity's and the ancient hives' history, there's basically nothing we can say about their war except tell them it's stupid but nothing we can say will make them stop until one side wins or they get exterminated from the outside.
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>>2995483
Of course we are doing that as well as monitoring all the effects the drugs will cause in the different species.

>>2995480
Only for those that become hove citizens which after this concert some people might actually do.
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>>2995397
The news footage flickers with the slight imperfections of the ship board Q-comm stream as various intelligence reports and personal letters subtly alter the public broadcast's image. A news reporter, a relatively young woman likely in her early thirties stands along the outskirts of a massive crowd which, to the shock of anyone watching Union news in the past few weeks, actually seems happy. The reporter walks along the outside of the massive crowd as she speaks into the microphone, simultaneously looking over the crowd for a potential interview as she speaks.

"I'm here today outside the customs enforcement office at the New Prescott interstellar space port where people have come out in droves to attend a surprise cultural event in Hive space. The Union administration officials have already stated that they are not in cooperation with this event, and that anyone who wishes to attend will need to have their passports in order just as any other transit outside of Union territory would require. The requirements on the Hive's end, however, seem to be far more lax, with no statement of any form of identification requirements having been made at all, and a flagrant advertisement of a total lack of restrictions on any form of substance abuse or moral codes." The reporter turns to a pair of young men dressed in odd attire, leather coats and torn jean pants, the shorter of the two waves at the camera, smiling as the reporter moves over to them, while the taller of the two laughs at his compatriot.

"Hey, is this live?" He asks with some unusually heightened amusement."

"We are." the reporter says. "Are you planning on attending the cultural event in Hive space?"

"You bet your ass we are, lady!" The man says, the other nodding profusely.

"And what exactly is the main reason you have for leaving Union space to attend a music concert?" She asks, in what you can tell is a clear setup for some manner of leading question.

"We're gonna smoke what no man has smoke before, get high on shit that doesn't have a name yet." He says as the other gives a thumbs up at the comment. "I heard some natives are gonna be there, maybe get freaky with an alien." He finishes, he looks over to a concerned look on his friend and shrugs. "What? It depends on what they look like, just cuz no alien we've seen is sexy doesn't mean it can't happen." The look of concern lessens, and he gives a half-hearted shrug. The reporter is clearly unsure how to continue, whatever leading question being built up to entirely demolished with the frank response.

"So you're just going there for there drugs and sex?"

"And the rock 'n roll. The trifecta of life, man!" The two both begin headbanging, air-playing make believe instruments to a song only they seem to hear.

The screen flickers off, and is replaced with the stern looking full body holograms of the secretaries in the already cramped medical bay of the Union corvette.

cont.
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>>2995502
At least what we can do is build a defensive grid so they can solve their scrabble and hopefully once they are done they can help us with ghe Void and the Obisidian Queen.

But most likely the only humans that will help us will be the ones unhappy with thwir current situation or the rebels/anarquist lile Kent's group that will use the Hive way of governament to create their own private factions.
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>>2995518
I don't think anyone is actually expecting human help in dealing with anything important. I for one just hope they don't fuck up too badly again.
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>>2995499
While the Hive has defeated the Scavengers in every encounter (in the worst cases with heavy loses) we don't know the full numbers of their fleets or the extend of their technology. They could have hidden surprises and they are almost as good at reverse engineering as the Hive. We should be careful with them.
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>>2995509

Hoping for sexy aliens. Truly a man after my own heart
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>>2995526
>They could have hidden surprises and they are almost as good at reverse engineering as the Hive.
No they're not. One of our speakers even made a comment about how slow they are with their reverse engineering.
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>>2995502
I think you're worrying too much about the 'moral high ground'. The very concept is a uniquely human concept, one that has changed wildly throughout their history.

As for the Commonwealth vs. Union war, I'd honestly argue that such a development is a positive influence on their progression as a species. By having such large conflicts between themselves they're much better prepared for an alien assault then they'd be otherwise. Think of all the military hardware the Commonwealth has poured out over the years, despite being relatively impoverished compared to the Union. They wouldn't have any of that if they never fought an interstellar war with the Union.

Mankind's warlike tendency's ultimately make them that much better prepared for inevitably conflict than any other independent species we've encountered so far.
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>>2995525
Same.

>The screen flickers off, and is replaced with the stern looking full body holograms of the secretaries in the already cramped medical bay of the Union corvette.

And here comes the political impact. So how many agents are they sending to investigate this new Hive instalation?
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>>2995509
>The screen flickers off, and is replaced with the stern looking full body holograms of the secretaries in the already cramped medical bay of the Union corvette.

Dammit Devon, I was almost hoping the universe had forgotten you existed. You are so burned it's like you kissed a Canian.
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>"We're gonna smoke what no man has smoke before, get high on shit that doesn't have a name yet." He says as the other gives a thumbs up at the comment. "I heard some natives are gonna be there, maybe get freaky with an alien." He finishes, he looks over to a concerned look on his friend and shrugs. "What? It depends on what they look like, just cuz no alien we've seen is sexy doesn't mean it can't happen." The look of concern lessens, and he gives a half-hearted shrug. The reporter is clearly unsure how to continue, whatever leading question being built up to entirely dem

Truly the best of humanity
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>>2995547
Every thread I kick myself a little harder, knowing that we burned an asset micromanaging Lyle's firework display while, while we could have had him hanging of Killinger's shoulder for the biggest reveals of the quest...
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>>2995547
I could taste the salt whem i read that they nuked their own station in the expanse so they could deny us salvage their tech.

Now with this show? They will think that everyone will be a potential Hive agent.
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>>2995548
Humanity's true goal is just to fuck every alien race in the galaxy.
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>>2995530
Ok the Hive is one of the best in reverse engineering (mere days as opposed to the Scavengers weeks) but we should still not allow them the chance to get more technology. They already got drop suits from the Commonwealth and who knows what else they have.
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>>2995561
But what if the genitalia aren't compatible?
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>>2995561
Hey that was how the Homo Sapiens defeated the neandertal we breeded with the fuckers and out breeded then it's basicaly in our dna to do that kind of stuff.
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>>2995564
A hole's a hole
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>>2995564
Dry-hump.
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>>2995564
We make them compatible
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>>2995564
That's why there is a mouth.
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>>2995568
every hole a goal
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>>2995531
It is a positive influence if they don't end up crippling or destroying themselves because of it. I hope if there is an emergency where we need them to make peace, we can convince them to stop the war.
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>>2995509
Also jesus, the hive wasn't even publicly known as a faction when Michael Devon was captured by the Valen. This is not the news to wake up to.
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>>2995595
Oh geez now i'm worried that they found our parasite inside Devon...
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>>2995595
>This is not the news to wake up to.
But it is the sort he would hear to bring him up to speed.
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>>2995602
I highly doubt that since that'd come from absolutely nowhere.
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>>2995509
>"We're gonna smoke what no man has smoke before, get high on shit that doesn't have a name yet."
Indeed you will child, indeed you will.

>>2995602
They probably didn't find it yet...
The difficulty is going to be to find a way to keep Devon useful enough to the Union they don't burn him, without giving away he's compromised. Given the Union knows hive equivalent tech is capable of duplicating a human perfectly (due to the Cluster incident), and that they know Devon was captured by Hive agents long before we revealed ourselves, it will be quite a dance to keep him as a valuable asset.
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>>2995595
Yikes. At this rate we're going to have to burn Devon for real just to cover up our espionage. We still have his doctor so it isn't a total wash I suppose.
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>>2995615
Let's not get hasty. no one even knows we can mind control people.
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>>2995611
>I highly doubt that since that'd come from absolutely nowhere.
>nowhere
>Nowhere

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>>2995509
Hey since the black metal concert is a once in a dozen lifetimes space woodstock, will Mr. Krasnikov the decrepit step out of his time dilation to attend?

Wonder if this was his kind of scene when he was a young man. We gotta get that guy out of his space house and into our medical pods.
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>>2995621
It's assumed we have mind control but it's unknown how it works.
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>>2995628
wait since when?
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>>2995631
A while ago. Morgan said they figured out we have mind control from all the clues.
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>>2995613
Also they now know that the hive has a triplex dna maki g easier to identify hibrids. If we want to use clone agents it will need tobe the ones without a direct connection and packed with Hive augs.
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>>2995626
That dude is counting his life time by the seconds. He ain't coming out of time dilation until we have personally guaranteed him an eternal life time supply of rejuvenation treatments.
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>>2995631
Since the Valen sold the info of their reunion with us. The Valen have empathic powers they can hear and the Hive can Talk so if a corporate is assuming the Hive can control minds. Then every thing is possible
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>>2995631
Since eating dinner with Valen. >>1397237
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>>2995509
Killinger's holographic figure flickers as he turns from the holoscreen to Devon, and then back to the secretary council. Even through the hologram, Devon tenses as if expecting a punch, the man's cold anger clear as Killinger shifts from foot to foot, as if desperately looking for an outlet for his anger. He points to Devon with his full hand, as if brandishing a knife.

"You were ordered to find and arrest a man, and failing that, kill him. Instead, you cause an international incident with the Valen gate builders, you lose a Smith, a corvette, and several paroled criminals, and at the end of it all you manage to let the most dangerous human alive in the known goddamn galaxy not just get away, but capture you, and then make off with an infamous smuggler and a fucking SecCom defector into the territory of the one species that just managed to strip away half of our goddamn territory with gunboat diplomacy like we were a bunch of weaponless pre-flight mongrels!" His shouting cracendoes as his pointed hand curls into a fist, the force of his fist shaking his whole arm as his face burns read. "And you have no goddamn idea what happened?" He shouts, and as he quickly moves closer to the holo-camera a swing of his hand sends a lamp in his path across the room with a crash of broken glass and snapped plastic. The hologram of him moves closer, as if he were trying to will himself physically there.

"It's true, sir. I have a similar mental block. I suspect they used some kind of drug, an amnestic or..." Grey attempts to say, but is quickly interrupted.

"Wrong goddamn answer!" Killinger shouts back. Devon clears his throat for a quick moment before attempting to speak.

"Sir, we were hit with an atomic, there was nothing in the reports of-"

"No!" Killinger says, quickly turning back to Devon. "No there wasn't, but there was plenty about how he's a crazy, psychotic madman who's fought a Smith and come out the other end. There was the fact he has a defector SecCom agent on his side that should tell you enough from just that, or how about his buddy who's on first name basis with almost every criminal gang leader on Gemini, and you don't think he was going to do something to surprise you?"

"Sir I-" Killinger holds up his hand, the image colliding slightly with Devon's chin.

"Another word and I'll have you shot out that airlock." He says. Both of them knows full well he has no such authority. Such a punishment doesn't even exist in the Union, but the threat seems sincere all the same. Killinger walks back to his desk, leaning on it with a tightly bound fist for several seconds as the rest of the room sits in silence. A moment later the tension breaks, and Killinger shouts out a curse as he sends his fist into a nearby wall. The hologram picks up little of it, with only a brief image of a shockingly deep dent in a polymer wall before it vanishes from the holocamera's background filter.
cont.
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>>2995639
The Valen know we have mind reading powers, not necessarily mind control.
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>>2995636
We can just gibe him the same Aug we gave to Anderson and make him our other Spy.
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>>2995641
Oh he mad and this is after everything happend. lol
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>>2995643
Some people suspect we can mind control. The Valen know we can communicate with telephaty yes.
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>>2995641
>The hologram picks up little of it, with only a brief image of a shockingly deep dent in a polymer wall before it vanishes from the holocamera's background filter.
Hold up, this is obvious use of augments, wasn't there a bit where he said he'll finally claim his heritage or something? Maybe he's related to the guy who lead the smith research way back.
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>>2995653
Oh yeah, Killinger just went from king of the universe who has everything under control and his enemies dancing on hidden strings to getting btfo by a powerful alien empire which has a grudge against him personally. And it’s looking like he may lose the election on Talgo. No shit he’s pissed.
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>>2995641
Welp, there goes whatever shred of influence Devon may have had in the Union government. What a waste...
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>cause an international incident with the Valen gate builders, you lose a Smith, a corvette, and several paroled criminals, and at the end of it all you manage to let the most dangerous human alive in the known goddamn galaxy not just get away, but capture you, and then make off with an infamous smuggler and a fucking SecCom defector into the territory of the one species that just managed to strip away half of our goddamn territory with gunboat diplomacy like we were a bunch of weaponless pre-flight mongrels
Yeah, it was pretty good.

>>2995659
For everything we got out of it, I'd say it was worth.
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>>2995659
Devon was a mishandled asset, no question about it, but we *might* be able to salvage this. Killinger sounds desperate. He may think Devin is loyal and Devon’s failure doesn’t sound so bad when we consider no one anticipated he would go up against an agent fully backed by an alien empire.
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Nanomachine augented killinger?
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>>2995657
That isn't quite what he said.
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>>2995660
We didn't get a thing out of it then if we had him stay on Gemini. Everything that happened would have happened anyway without his presence.
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>>2995643
Actually after searching through the thoughts of the guy from Krashnikov in thread 63.2 their intel team was pretty certain that the Hive can read and control minds though they didn't know how and believed it required time to do so.
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>>2995658
>>2995663

Us bringing up that we're suspicious of his opponent in the election having an artifact the hive empire is looking out for would probably be a lot of leverage he could desperately use.
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>>2995671
What did he say then?
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>>2995673
Do you happen to have a quote. Maybe I’m blind, but I can’t find that in the thread.

>>2995674
I agree, but Devon doesn’t know anything about the hive (although he knows a little about artifacts). If we go this way we have to be very careful no to give ourselves away.
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Well considering what happend i take it Devon would know that at least the Hive had given Lyle some kind of supersuit or something.

but it looks like we wiped his entire memory and of the crew too.
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>>2995681
All he really needs is the information on weird dreams and to connect that with mind control.
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>>2995681
They discuss it here:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1394302/#p1397237
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>>2995684
Yeah but our memory wipe is pretty efficient so there is no lingering dreams or anything that he will remember unless we want to.
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>>2995663
I say we throw Devon a bone and find a way for him to get something "usefull" for the Union. Maybe a bit of our old tech some such. It will help make sure that Devon remains a useful mole and make the Union a bit less panicked if it can be shown that we are not beyond the comprehension of lesser species.
>>2995658
Him losing the election would be bad. Killinger is a known element, caring for himself foremost. If we make it clear to him that any action against the hive would hurt him, he wont do it as long as the alternatives are not worse. His opponent is seemingly devoted to his cause, and is a zealot. Manipulating him will be like like playing with dynamite. Sure, it can be useful, but id prefer for it not to blow up in my face.
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>>2995681
"So valen read minds, these things control them?"

"We know at least two humans jumped ship and are working with them. The others reported gaps in their memory and strange dreams." The man says. "It's not out of the question, although it's doubtful that even if they can that they can pull it off immediately. I've assembled an itinerary for you that will keep you as far from their embassy as possible until the moment before you arrive."
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>>2995687
What do you think I'm talking about here? Because I'm about Killinger's political opponent.
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>>2995681
Torres's flashback was already linked earlier. >>2995639
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>>2995688
I'd say we could leak intel about the OQ that could have been gleaned from Devon's encounter with her scout ships outside of Bedrock.

But then again, she did mount a full scale invasion of Path just a couple days later so I can't imagine it would be anything new to the Union....
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>>2995686
>>2995690

Thanks Anon.
If even the corps suspect we have some level of mind control abilities, the government almost certainly believes so as well.

>>2995688
Id like to throw Devon a bone too, but we need to make sure he doesn’t give himself away somehow, which is difficult. We need to see what options QD throws our way.
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>>2995688
Actually I think Killinger (while a corrupt bastard) has genuine concern for his fellow man, he just thinks most of his fellow men are idiots.
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ah that one joke vote will forever haunt us.
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>>2995699
Yeah,I kind of agree. Him and the Security Council tend to seem corrupt, and they are, but the net intent and sometimes result of their corruption is the betterment of the Union.
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>>2995699
too bad he's a cunt eh
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>>2995706
Agreed but, to be fair, a lot of the immaturity can be blamed on the fact that the queen is an infant. Jokes are important to children. Most children are just "slightly" less powerful than us and lack access to hyper-intelligent thinkers.

>>2995699
Agreed. Killinger is an utter ass, but we can probably work with that once we convince him our sole purpose in life isn't to make him eat shit. That's only our second purpose, after defeating the Void and OQ
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>>2995707
>>2995709
It's kind of funny really. If he wasn't so dickish and his ego didn't go to his head we could have been great allies. Even Magnus admits Killinger is the best at what he does.
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>>2995712
Yup.Make damn sure he knows fucking with us and dicking around with the Void is bad for him and that staying on our good side is good for him and the Union. We've kicked his shit in a lot, so lets be nice...and also cheeky, but that goes without saying.
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>>2995699
He's like the villain in some stories where he takes good care of the people who are on his side unless those same people betray or fail him. Then he gets rid of them with extreme prejudice.
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>>2995713
He killed his neighbor’s cat, authorized the abduction of our drones, and sent the Smith to attack the Queen. He is a superb dick.

We can work with him sure, but the hive is certainly not above holding a grudge.
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Yo guys I think I found footage of first contact between humanity and scavengers.

https://youtu.be/9KXtWfjeRmY
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>>2995718
Technically to send a Smith needs all members of the council to vote in favor of it. So even if he proposed it, the whole council would have to agree including Morgan.
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>>2995641
Killinger moves back to his desk, standing over a stack of papers and data pads as he tosses his chair aside, sending it spinning over to the wall on its swivelling wheels and vanishing from the projection as you hear it hit something off screen. He looks down blankly at the contents of his desk as he leans on it with both hands, his head almost rose red and covered in sweat as several veins become visible as the hologram slowly increases the definition as he remains still.

"Jack." He says, more calmly, his voice cracking slightly with a hoarse tone. He takes a sip of water from a nearby glass. "Things are getting out of hand. We need to push up our schedule, take over the debriefing while I make some calls."

"Very well." Jack says. Killinger presses a button on his desk with a tired expression, his finger still shaking as blood becomes visible along his knuckles, and his image vanishes. The others continue to look to where the image was, as if still concerned he may somehow hear them, until Jack speaks up.

"Things have... escalated since your departure." Jack says. Alexandra lets out a deliberately loud chortle at the statement. Jack turns to her with some small indignation.

"Every plan we've had has been thrown back in our face." She says. "Your boys have been in the thick of most of it."

"How's Mars looking, DuPont?" Jack asks pointedly. "Our jobs overlap, but we still have our own projects. Let me deal with my agents, and I'll let you deal with yours. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate the rest of us questioning your falling back from Sol."

"DuPont wasn't the one who attacked it in the first place." Morgan says. "So far she has responded diligently to the Commonwealth invasion, but so far it seems to be your divisions have been the cause, not the botched solution, to most of these recent problems. I think maybe we should rethink these policies of so-called projects. As you said, our jobs have a lot of overlap, maybe we should start having the same policy for our briefings and intel reports." Jack shoots him a glaring look, but ignores it as he turns back to Devon.

"Anyways, things have gotten increasingly out of control. We have multiple unaccounted for events, and the whole of the Expanse has become an intelligence blind spot. While I don't hold you responsible for all of that, all of you here have utterly failed in your objective in quite possibly the most politically damaging way possible. We can now only assume all of your targets are now Hive intelligence assets, if they weren't already. We've had to swap all of our codes, scramble the offices, we've already changed just about every lock on Gemini as a result of this data breach and it still is going to hurt."

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>>2995723
That's assuming Killinger follows the rules, which he repeatedly has not. He tried to use a stealth ship to blow up a political rival. I doubt that sort of stuff is allowed under Union law, but he tried it anyway.
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>>2995730
The only rules that matter are how the universe works. Everything else is free game.
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>>2995726
Wow, looks like we’re back in the thick of it already. Seems like the Union is more desperate and less paranoid than I thought (unless this is an elaborate sting operation designed to feed the Hive false intel or reveal Devon...)
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>>2995730
Wasn't the whole rest of the council in on that? They were even discussing it before the vote for the King Bill.
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>>2995726
Checking the archives. Remember in early days when update posts were sometimes a single sentence? Pepperidge Farm remembers. >>>/tg/32663007 https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/32662381/#32663007
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Is the data breach refering to Dillon being a defector or sometging else?
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>>2995749
Maybe it is in reference to the senticom raid we pulled on the AI facility that also had Void info?
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>>2995749
the incident at the smith factory
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>>2995744
Graves been rubbing off on him I think. They're dating or something with how buddy buddy they've gotten
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>>2995749
doubt it since Morgan hasn't committed suicide by multiple rounds to the back of the head.
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>>2995749
>>2995754
>>2995755
I think people have forgotten how much damage we've done.
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>>2995754
But was there any evidence that the mercenaries (actually Hive agents) who took part in the raid had any relation to the Hive?
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>>2995765
Theseus was involved and a Smith was exposed to the general public.
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>>2995765
We caused a unity outbreak during the raid
Given that and all the other incidents happening within what? 3 months it is a understandable call to do a complete overhaul of there security
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>>2995726
"Have we seen any sign of them since?" Devon asks. Jack shuffles his intel reports in his hands.

"A few cloak wakes across Union space, some in the Expanse during the evacuation. We can't tell which ones are Lyle and which are Ceph pathfinders, but either they have a very strong interest in Hive space, or the Hive has cloaking tech too."

"Are we able to confirm that yet?" Alexandra asks. "The reports you sent me are still vague, and if they decide to make their Commonwealth support overt, I don't want any more surprises."

"No, but the circumstantial evidence is becoming overwhelming." Jack replies. "Given the fact that they were able to just sneak up on us like this, I went back and scoured some past reports in the Expanse. Unusual Ceph activity has been reported for a while now, we either have to conclude that the Ceph pathfinders are incredibly interested in that region, or they have stealth tech."

"Why not both?" Devon asks. "We know the Ceph have a theocracy that has placed some religious significance in the area since the Union started colonization." Jack snaps a finger as he points to Devon.

"I didn't want to be the one to give the bad news, but exactly. That kind of observation is why you're having this debriefing and not rotting in a valen black site in exchange for political brownie points. Keep them coming because I think Killinger is still mulling over that extradition charge they gave us."

"So am I." Morgan says. "You were told the gravity of the situation when you went in. For some reason Lyle and his crew placed more importance on your rescue than we did. Quite frankly I'm concerned over the implications."

"You think we have a mole?" Jack asks.

"I know we do. I'm more worried about who it is. If you're not convinced we have a current and active intelligence breach I'm going to press for a no confidence vote."

"I tend to agree." Jack replies. "Nothing to do about it on our end though. We have agents to manage that kind of thing. My team is open to the idea that the Hive has biological or mental means of manipulation and intelligence gathering we otherwise lack the capacity to resist or detect. Everyone here has passed a basic medical exam, and when you get back on Gemini you'll all have the option to retire or volunteer for a neural probe. Legally speaking we can't force you to undergo such a procedure, but I'll put it like this, that extradition charge can be made to fit anyone we don't trust. Anyways, Ceph interest was a major reason for our initial inspections of the Expanse worlds. It turned up a horde of artifacts with properties unknown to our science, and now two alien species, one of which is an apparent master of that unknown scientific principal."

"Two?" Devon asks. "I assume the Hive is one." Jack looks through his notes again.

cont.
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>>2995767
Funny then that the raid was originally planned by a guy (Kent who also unleashed the Theseus instance) who had no relation to the Hive at the time.
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Now that I think of it Killinger is probably a Legendary Leader in term of mechanics.
>>2995777
More like the last month. Hell the last week was dense with happenings.
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>>2995780
>"You think we have a mole?" Jack asks.
>"I know we do. I'm more worried about who it is. If you're not convinced we have a current and active intelligence breach I'm going to press for a no confidence vote."

Yep, time to either get Devon out of there or burn his trail hard.
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>>2995780
And there it is folks.
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>>2995780

Neural probe and second species???

>Concern
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>>2995780
If we can just isolate Devon, then we can remove his parasite, wipe his mind and use other precautions, then grab him afterwords and replant him.
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>>2995780
You know, I think its kinda weird that despite the Expanse allegedly being a hotbed of Ceph activity, we have yet to actually be attacked by Ceph Voidcutters after all this time..
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>>2995794
We could wipe his mind with the parasite then self destruct said parasite.
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>>2995780
So could we manage to bypass a neural probe and a medical exam? Assuming they're not going to do a full vivisection to find the spinebuddy.
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>>2995800
That's because we only started making waves recently.
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>>2995780
The whole rescue op was supposed to not appear to be Lyle and his two bros in any way whatsoever, Dillon was trying to help make it appear as generic as possible.

There was some attempt to claim Decker contacted them when he hacked the Valen through his spine.

That attempt utterly failed then.
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>>2995806
so it would appear.
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>>2995801
That is the least we can do. Im worries that a neural probe may pick up sufficient abnormalities to warrant further bullshit. If he cant be isolated, then we get a fly to him(to see what happens,mind wipe him and self destruct our spinepal.
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>>2995794
Don't forget Gilliam should he also be targeted.
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>>2995780
>Two species
Interesting. Are they referring to the Cluster, the Void, or perhaps another species altogether?

Maybe we can use Devon to draw inferences between the Ceph calling the Hive Demons, the Ceph interest in the expanse, and the "Great Enemy" the Hive mentioned during our interviews. This would (obviously) be extremely dangerous, but it may allow us to salvage Devon as a valuable agent. Obviously this would be a long term plan.

>>2995800
The hive has been quite hidden until the last couple of weeks. We should probably anticipate an attack soon, though.

>>2995794
>>2995801
We might be able to hide the scan or get to the doctors administering the scan. We don't know how capable the neural probe is. We have to "volunteer" though, or lose Devon as an asset.
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>>2995780
"Three actually, depending on how you count them. The Skyl seem to have made the artifacts, the Hive doesn't seem to need them, whatever properties the artifacts possess is innate to them. Then the Hive, obviously, and then this new intelligence nightmare dug up from the ice on Djin that's straight out of a horror story. Shapeshifting, direct neural link communication, more or less capable of directly sucking information from your skull, eating you alive, and then becoming you and taking your place. Fortunately most of the insides seem wrong, and it has triplex DNA like the Hive, so we have tests for it, but still, apparently this thing used to be a major player on the geopolitical scene back when the Hive was in their prime."

"So they are allies?" Grey asks.

"No, more like peers. I suspect they have their own differences but I'm betting they'd consider each other a closer relation than us." Jack says. "No, we're probably looking more like a bunch of insects swarming over their old childhood summer home. So far they seem okay with just pushing us over to the back porch but if we fuck up I've got no doubt they would choose one another over any human faction, Union or Commonwealth."

"Do we have any confirmation they are that advanced? I haven't seen any data to show them having anything beyond the Unity at this point, though their nano-constructor tech is impressive and their biology is clearly a specialized field."

"It's not about tech, it's about galactic social class." Jack says back. "The Hive used to be power players, and this war has knocked them down a few pegs apparently. Now if you're a millionaire, and you go broke, do you suddenly see joe schmoe as your peer? No, you resent that dirty fuck all the more. You do whatever it takes to keep up appearances." Jack flips several of the sheets in his hands. "Now honestly, I think the Hive is bluffing most of their hand, but I don't think they need to. I think most of their bluff is a matter of pride more than need. They could wipe us off the map like that." He says as he snaps his fingers. "Just with a simple war of attrition. They have no morale, no labor costs, no dissidents, no nothing, just the will of the hive. They can pump out ships and drones faster than a Talgo fundie family on ecstacy and every one of them is perfectly fine with marching right into the line of fire. There would be nothing we could do. That said, I'm betting that they look like they are living in a proper poor house compared to what they used to have, but fighting an enemy that can blow up planets will tend to do that to your economy. They do not see us as peers, we're the blue collar neighbor whose every aspect they find repugnant, and they will bulldoze everything we have if it means being able to rebuild what they lost. Don't anyone here forget that." Jack looks through his papers with a moment of confusion.

"But enough about our own collective existential crisis, back on topic." He says.
cont.
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>>1286022
>"Okay, so the job is to help the homicidal robots to rescue a bunch of humans from the Union, who are actually hive agents, all while making sure that neither the robots or the Hive can be implicated in any of it?" Lyle asks. Jackob gives him a light punch.
>"You may need to stay in the ship. You're a bit famous."
>"Oh fuck off, I got helmets for that."
>"We also can't use those exo-suits. They're too obvious. Human made gear only." Dillon adds. Jackob pulls out the small hilt of his photon blade as he juggles it in his hand.
>"Not even this? It's damn useful."
>"Just make sure anyone who sees it dies by it or is on our side." Lyle says with a grin, Jackob nods back.


>>1336931
>"Primary objective: assist in facilitating ally agent escape from Valen facility. Secondary objective: obfuscate means, reasons, and political affiliations of all parties involved and their actions. Tertiary objective: Facilitate heightened friction between Valen Guild of Transportation and Union of Independant Colonies as means of rendering friendly activities with the Queen more appealing."

Somebody failed us somehow.

What gave it away. Was it blowing up so much stuff. Other people besides Lyle blow things up.
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By the way whatever happened to Calhoun? Is he still alive and rescued? The last reference of him i seem to find is being left on Aral's desert cut in half, waiting for the Valen to find him.
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>>2995827
Damn there analysts are fucking good
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>>2995827

Oh shit. That's remarkably accurate. At least they know what they're dealing with?
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>>2995827
Aww, you're giving us way too much credit. We're not genociding you because we like you. well, some of you. And definitely not you guys in the union government.
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>>2995827
so they must have got there hands on the conversation we had with magnus after nowhere happened
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>>2995827
Man if you guys weren't made by mom and we didn't like a few of you....
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>>2995827
Almost intiraly accurate. HOwever, he did not take into account the possibility that were are sentimental and can build emotional attachments. While we are annoyed at the Union, several members of humanity we consider our children and overall humanity has our interest. While we would be willing to fuck their shit up, we have more then just practical reasons to do so, though our sentimentality wont stop us from wreaking a planet or 5.
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>>2995827
>with a moment of confusion.
Did he.

Did he mean to go on that rant?

Did he really have all that bottled up inside or was it inspired by an outside mental source?
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>>2995857
and mom made them
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>>2995861
stress, just alot of stress and dealing with people who dont understand the severity of how fucked this situation is
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>>2995827
>but if we fuck up I've got no doubt they would choose one another over any human faction, Union or Commonwealth."
That would certainly be true, if it weren't for the fact that our best warriors and thinkers (Lyle and Elizabeth) are human, Theseus likes humans, and if humans weren't our mother's secret weapon to end the eternal war.

Still, Jack seems like a pretty sharp guy all things considered. He just doesn't recognize his own value in the scheme of things just yet.
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>>2995850
Not really. If they did they would have find out that the weapon that destroyed the moon was made with the White Hive's help. What he's talking abut probably refers to the interview that the Hive gave to QNN.
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>>2995827
>They do not see us as peers
No, but humanity was part of Plan A and the Red Queen was Plan B.

Thankfully enough of Plan A was developed for us to pick the pieces back up and make them useful, but they blew up the plans for the psi-cannon and we need that bad boy to kill that-which-calls-itself-God.

Now I suppose we'd treat them like pets? We need to be careful not to treat them as slaves, otherwise we become the Void.
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>>2995857
It’s dubby, he recognizes pride but not the other emotions connected to humanity. He also doesn’t have any idea the Hive needs humanity as a tool in their war.

Other than that, bang on analysis.
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>>2995850
No. The speaker literally spelled out, to Jack Windsor and a bunch of Parliament, how ancient and primordial the hive is.
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>>2995879
Not pets. More like a kid down the street whose parents are never around. We make sure they dont fall into man holes, get abused by bad people, and try to make sure the learn to be independent and figure out most of the basics by themselves, up until they are about to do something stupid.
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I for one find it very telling that he thinks we might be bluffing on our "Current" Strength (still more than enough to take them with little issue in his head), but that we most certainly are _not_ bluffing on our ancient glory and the history of our species.

>>2995886

When did we become Benevolent Pennywise and does that make the Void normal Pennywise?
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>>2995879
>Now I suppose we'd treat them like pets? We need to be careful not to treat them as slaves, otherwise we become the Void.
Nobody really gives a shit this line of virtue signaling. The reason we won't actually enslave humanity is because they are more useful with their free will rather than slaves.
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>>2995866
>>2995866
>>2995866
This cannot be overstated, and they cannot be allowed to know until they are firmly under thumb.

They are our downsyndrome siblings, and though they are not our equals, we are obligated to love them.
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>>2995893
Well, weve gotten some good shit from humanity(people and tech), they are useful bodies to throw at Auntie and the ceph, to much interference could cause them to become dependent on us and thus not as engineering. And they are one of our moms last relics.
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>>2995827
"Now, we have been able to confirm that the Ceph faith's myth of the Expanse has truth to it. We've then managed to corroborate Skyl hieroglyphics to a number of old Ceph legends and symbols, and the legends more or less go exactly as the Speaker explained when talking about the Skyl. What do you make of this?" Jack asks. "Even without certain recent events that not everyone here has clearance for, but is sadly widely known enough for me to freely refer to, it would seem that the beings the Ceph claim blew up that planet, the same beings the Ceph worship as gods and claim to be omnipotent, at least, as omnipotent as their doublethink allows while maintaining their place as a servant class, is the same entity, or at least the same faction. Has anyone made the connection yet?" He asks, the room is quiet, those within growing more concerned. Jack sighs.

"Alright, how's this. These gods have been at war with the Hive for so as long as a species whose records go back since before the time of cavemen can remember. They seem to make a habit of using slave races for their front line troops, and blew up a whole planet when one of them fought back, and then, managed to get a top secret research facility to do... something." He says, framing his head with his hands as if to emphasis the incomprehensible nature of their actions. "That means that they are able to alter the properties of physical matter to control humans. Us. Meaning they seem to consider us a viable option as a potential slave race if the Ceph don't manage to get the job done."

"Now," Jack continues. "That war is continuing, and we are clearly fighting above our weight class if we try and get involved. That said, the degree of accuracy we can ascribe to the Ceph mythologies should be taken with some salt. It is inherently propaganda after all, but anything that can blow up a planet is nothing we want to mess with. I'm sure you'd agree, Secretary DuPont?" She nods, waiting for some major point to the speech.

"In short we went into the Expanse after finding a bunch of ancient Ceph writings about not tasting the evil candy, immediately went looking for it, found it, and now it's pushing our shit in." Jack looks around the room for a moment. "Everyone tend to agree with that?"

"I think you're spreading arround more of the blame than you should, but yes." Nathaniel says quickly.

cont.
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>>2995817
>We don't know how capable the neural probe is.
No, we know enough.

A neural probe means nerve stapling.

Nerve stapling shows parasited people as ever so slightly off. We've seen it happen.

Now if we knew even more about Valen nerve stapling technology, we might learn enough to allow parasites to adjust themselves to become more invisible. But maybe not.

>Flashes of thoughts rush through Deckers mind in quick succession, including memories of the familiar pain. "Let's start with a baseline. Something simple. Tell me about the first time you underwent nerve stapling?"
>>>/tg/48443400
>"I assure you, I'll be quite gentle." Neville says. "That was... some years ago, yes? We've made quite a few advancements since then... interesting."
>"What? You know how to use that thing, right? I swear to god if this is your first time you can just pass me the controls and I'll do it myself." Decker says.
>"Nothing, it just seems that your baseline is... rather odd. Do you have any neurological disorders?"
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>>2995893
I agree that it is extremely telling he thinks we are bluffing about our military but not our age. I’m not sure what that signifies necessarily, though. He also thinks we are not making up the destruction of a planet.

>>2995900
To be fair, we love them for more reasons than that they are just our siblings (consider how much more we like humans than, say, the Phantoms). Humans have provided us with immense value even without considering Mom’s plan (which makes them essentially irreplaceable).
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>>2995894
Does the Hive even need slaves? Drones can do almost everything the Hive needs and for the rest as you say we have humans with free will.
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>>2995870
>He just doesn't recognize his own value in the scheme of things just yet.

Yeah, humanity was purpose-bred and guided very diligently to be able to do things the Hive can't, or can't without great risk. All of the times when the ancient queens died when scrying the Void could have potentially been done by the human psyche (like Seiner). And Elizabeth's psionic powers are also developing well, so each human is potentially a thinker/medium relay.

For all the Hive's achievements and strengths, there sure are very pronounced weaknesses.

>>2995894
It's not really virtue signaling when it's how we've shown our actual virtue. The difference is in terms of how we treat the lesser races beneath us. The ancient hives seemed to treat lesser life as livestock what with seeding and harvesting worlds, the Void seems to treat all life as subservient pawns through a veneer of religion (see: Ceph and Skyl and maybe Scavs), but for the Ralighans at least we've tried to get away from religious indoctrination. I find it difficult to consider that we'd prefer the Ralighans or Phantoms or Humans were all effectively mind-controlled. So, outright and widespread enslavement isn't something we've shown a preference for. Adoption or integration would be a more appropriate word. This differs from the Cluster way of adoption too, in that Cluster seems to show no desire to keep the original characteristics of the races it assimilates.
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>>2995910
research and unique ideas. Arguably the greatest advancement for the Hive came about way back when we made quantum thinkers.
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>>2995910
Yes. Dreamslaves.

>
>Dream-works: Requires Hover-Mom to be active
>Failure risk: Very Low
>Discovery risk: Low
>The imagination of countless idle layabouts subsisting off of the Hive is effectively weaponized. Sleeping Hive Citizens connected to the Hive network have their minds linked to thinker concerts during REM sleep, allowing your research divisions to take full advantage of the creativity of the subconscious minds of the single-minded within your care.
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>>2995906
frack they really are on the ball today
Did they change there coffee or something?
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>>2995933
More like we slapped the stupid out of them.
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>>2995908
Well we have human DNA. We can quite literally replace them to make more Seiners.
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>>2995933
All of their fuck ups in the past were from mostly ignorance and were within the later half of a year. After recovering from the onslaught of their own fuck ups, they.Are.Learning. If they fuck with the void again, then they are idiots.
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>>2995933
I'm just waiting for them to come to completely the wrong conclusion, although I will agree that the conference has been on-point so far.
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>>2995925
So you're saying we should go the Matrix route and have pod people for research purposes?
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>>2995906
Guess they figured out about the Void themselves pretty quickly. They are dead wrong about the Void thinking about using humans as slaves, though. Human genes could only ever be an extistental threat to the Void. Valen are a much more likely slavery target.

It’s curious that Jack suspects the hive created a weapon, but doesn’t make any connection to the most powerful planet-killing level of weaponry the humans have ever seen (the psionic cannon on Luna)

>>2995922
100% agree with all this.
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>>2995938
They don’t yet understand their high value to us, and think they might have value to the Void even if that is only as slaves. They probably won’t fuck with the Void too much, but if they know the Void is a powerful enemy of the Hive if we push the Union too hard they may seek out iur “rival”
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>>2995940

Ah, I don't think they'd come to a COMPLETELY wrong conclusion.

Maybe a bit warped from lack of information, but not completely wrong.

Perhaps they believe the reason the Hive is interacting with Humanity is not to use them or protect them or destroy them, but instead to "Know" them before Gehenna kicks off and humanity is probably wiped out (perhaps by complete accident, or a missed God-gun shot or something) in the coming War In Heaven that's about to kick off?
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>>2995945
Well, humans can willingly side with the Void, as shown by the staff of Nowhere. It is still different then the other races, but the fact that Emmerich apparently got the plans for the machine from his "gods" shows that that they are not free from void bullshit.
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>>2995922
There is nothing wrong with religious indoctrination. It is only problem when it interferes with creativity.
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>>2995945
no they can be slaves remember?
The void figured out how to get around the mods mom put into them by using that crystal brains thing and were making changes to them brainwashed humans back on nowhere
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>>2995945
>They are dead wrong about the Void thinking about using humans as slaves, though.

You aren't paranoid enough. The enemy just don't know about the true ultimate potential of the human mind.

Which isn't even unlocked without highly specific implants to uplift them as Void Crafters.

Pastor David for all we know is an attempt to make the Union into a puppet state by installing him as the new President with emergency war powers.
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>>2995906
"So, now we have multiple points of failure across our space, and a conventional war to deal with. On your end, your failure is honestly a bit insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but it still hurt. Once you were captured by the Valen, they started waving you in our faces to see how much you were worth to us. While we were trying to hardball them on it to try and mitigate the political fallout, someone comes in claiming to be hired by Decker, blows up most of the construction platform, kills dozens of their employees and millions of credits of merchandise-"

"Sixty three million, seven hundred and eighty five." Morgan says. "They sent me a bill for it."

"And then you show up on a planet just as the Union forces are evacuating for the transfer. Now, the Valen think it's us that did it. Publicly, we don't have much room to claim otherwise. Either we believe some hacker inspired a crack kill team with clear military training to rescue them from a valen hypergate construction site, or the Hive wanted to rub our nose in our own dirty business, let us know not to do it again and show us who the real boss is. Ironically, even if we did have proof it was them, the Valen are scared enough of the bastards that they'd go along with whatever the Hive's official story was full force. We can either accept the hand we got, or if we find proof of our innocence, get pinned with a worse bag by having them claim we're trying to weasel out after getting caught. When you deal with valen, that's a graver sin than any betrayal. If you get caught, you pay for it." Jack rubs his forehead in a mixture of frustration and admiration. "God, it was perfect. I can't imagine they sent anyone else but Lyle, no shuttles were ever seen in the area. There's a chance something snuck through, but a low one. Whoever did it had to have had some kind of cloaking tech. Commonwealth wouldn't give two shits about that op, and their stealth tech project is years behind ours."

"So you think it was all just a show?" Grey asks. "We get captured, and then broken out and let go for free, just to rub it all in?"

"Stings doesn't it?" Jack asks. "As I said, they rubbed our nose in it, and now our relations with the Valen is on thin ice, and they've gone running to the Hive out of pure fear of what they are and what they can do." Jack shuffles his papers again, looking for a new page. He can't seem to find it, and eventually leans over and plucks a data pad from under his desk.

"Now, my understanding is that you were given this cover story that they were mercs, is there anything else before the memory blackout?"

>Have Devon speak (write in)
>Add nothing new to the record
>Other
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>>2995958

Yeah, but that requires them to be mostly-willing in the first place.

Contrary to popular belief and media depictions, when human being know there is some paranormal ghost-eldritch-demon god bullshit around, and they start hearing spooky voices or abrupt impulses, they'll GTFO pretty fast.
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>>2995956
After Seiner's spirit quest, I'm beginning to think that religion might help in interfacing with the dream (?) realm. Seiner saw a mix of different faiths, I wonder what Yogesh would have seen? There's a place for religion as long as it's not stupid religion. Who knows, maybe it's somehow real.
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>>2995963
>Add nothing new to the record
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>>2995963
ALL RIGHT GUYS, TIME TO THINK OF WHAT BONE TO THROW.
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Well, here's were we give them a handout. What handout, though?
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>>2995963
>>Have Devon speak (write in)
Bring up the incident between the OQ scouting ship and our own hive vessels outside of Bedrock. Devon was there and witnessed the exchange from the courier ship, and can use this as evidence to stress the inter-hive conflicts that are being fought beyond the Expanse.

Have him make the case that the conflict between us and the OQ is more significant than the Union has thus gauged, as it represents a conflict of the Red Hive to a comparable military and industrial force beyond the scope of known Human space.
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>>2995954
>>2995961

They are not entirely free of the ability to fall, but I still think they’d be among the last choice of slaves by the Void. Any humans without crystal brains are still a threat to them.


>>2995963
Supporting >>2995983
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>>2995963

Supporting >>2995983
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>>2995983
That's irrelevant to the question and was already known to them anon. That was way waaaaaay before the QComm was disabled.

The question is what we remember onboard Lyle's ship, which we only 99.9% are sure is Lyle's, before we all got drugged to oblivion.
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THEY COMPLETELY FORGOT TO MENTION THE SCAVENGERS
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>>2995983
But dont sound too insistent. We want him to sound like he is making an observation,nothing too strong.
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>>2995983
>>2995985
>>2995986
>>2995987
>>2995989
Personally I don't see much point to it.
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>>2995963
this>>2995983

Isn't a bad spot

but>>2995987
is right, we're completely avoiding the question. Also the Scavs need to be brought up
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>>2995996
There's no way to bring up the scavs logically.
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right, so we need to come up with something else as >>2995987 mentions. Anything else we can give them?
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Anderson betrayed them completely is a good thing to throw out there.
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>>2995963
>>Have Devon speak (write in)
Uh, one wanted to shake hands?
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>>2995996
How much does Devon even know about the scavs?

We can’t remember anything from when we were “drugged” and making new memories now is suspicious as fuck. However, while the Hive is being discussed we can make an observation that could be valuable.
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>>2996003
I mean, he was a criminal, it was entirely expected he would.
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>>2996005
You get my vote for being funny
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Let's save all of the shit for another time when it's more revelent.
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>>2995963
>Add nothing new to the record
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Why not mention Theseus? Devon saw the robot connect with hackerman, maybe trowing that in can give them the idea it was a Unity OP instead of a hive one.
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What if Devon mentions that Decker spoke to him before the rescue and said that he managed break through the interrogation connection and call on the mercenaries?
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>>2995987
>>2995995
It's a bone to throw them to help save Devon's skin, but it also serves to stress just how massive the war between the hives is, and how that factors into hive's decision making priorities. Right now Killinger was spot on in his strategic analysis of the hive, but he left out the biggest one that most of our immediate war fighting resources are dedicated to.

If it wasn't leaking too much info our agent couldn't know, I'd say we could make the case that us taking the Expanse effectively created a buffer zone between the Union and OQ's territory.
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>>2996016
That might be a good idea but it doesn't take any heat off the Hive since we are clearly allied.
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>>2996016
>>2996018
These are good ideas - supporting. Painting Decker as the mole (and the info shared due to the Theseus Hive alliance) helps get Devon off the hook. Would Devon have been the only witness to this? If he is the only one it’s kind of suspicious he only remembers it now. Still could be a good pint to bring up, though.
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>>2996016
I like this a lot, pinning it on Theseus gives us SOME leeway here. And it keeps suspicion from being on us SOMEWHAT
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>>2996009
It's also true information that could be corroborated by someone else if it somehow jogs their memory of a guy admitting he knew Dillon Reager.

If Devon starts saying things no one can even faintly corroborate it makes him suspicious. If he says something someone does, and that leads to concrete information that they basically already know anyway. That's good for him.
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>>2996020
The Union already knows there is a mole. This just paints someone other than Devon himself as the mole.
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>>2996029
Won't work. They know it's more likely someone in the room.
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>>2996025
Grey and some of the others were in the same area but aside from Devon the others had their parasites removed i think.
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Can we just play it safe and not say anything for now?
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I think raising the possibility it was a Theseus op wouldn't be a negative in any way while still seemingly contributing to the questioning.
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>>2996034
Well that would leave our agent at the heart of the Union government out to dry. This could be the last chance we get to salvage part of his credibility.
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>>2996025
Well they are certain it's Lyle, not sure we should try to push this version of events with Decker apparently lying to Devon, especially if anyone here still remembers Decker's "what the fuck" reactions of confusion during the rescue.

>>2996016
Hooking up to robot doesn't indicate it's a Unity op. It does indicate that that "custom made neurolink virus originating from the interrogation room" Decker clearly wrote was reporting back to him. Decker was clearly the instigator of the events somehow. He made it possible.

Which is true.
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>>2996039
Devon will only get credibility once he goes under the probe and gets cleared.
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>>2995963
>>Add nothing new to the record
Too risky if no one else remembers things like Decker getting hacked by Theseus.

We could mention the encounter with the OQ, but that doesn't specifically pertain to the question asked.
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>>2996043
I think this is something people are forgetting. Nothing we could say will make us look credible until we get the probe.
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I wonder if Theseus could get us a neural probe before Devons checkup. Clone Devon and insert his memory there and feed the "baseline" Devons responses through the parasite to the "real" Devon.
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>>2996043
>>2996047
The probe is essentially just a medical scan to search. Credibility is more than just verifying someone isn't being brainwashed, it's establishing how useful Devon is as an agent for Killinger and his cronies.

Right now his reputation is in the gutter, but if he points out something useful and pertinent to the situation then that increases the odds that he's going to get called upon to work in these shady dealings once he's passed the scan.
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>>2996054
Or we just demand a meeting with the Guild of Transportation elders or whatever senior Valen and use their current obsequiousness to get what we want.

They've updated their nerve stapling technology in the last year. Theseus probably doesn't have the latest model on hand, just like he didn't have the lastest warp drive.
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>>2996060
That'd leave some pretty obvious leads and pretty much only theseus is prompt enough to handle this matter quickly enough.
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>>2995963
"Actually, this was before contact, but we were attacked by a hive vessel prior to leaving for the mission."

"Shortly after departing Bedrock, yes." Jack says, he pulls a paper up from his desk. "Yes, it was intercepted by a number of other hive vessels and obliterated... rather excessively if I recall. The local pickets picked up the feed, and we have the footage from your own on-board sensor feed."

"Yes but wouldn't that imply a greater inter-species conflict?"

"Ah, I see. While I will give you credit for mentioning it, we've had that confirmed by the Hive speaker. Something about a rival hive, one which is far more hostile than the Red Hive tends to be." Jack says. "I think this came to light while you were unavailable."

"They have names now?" Calhoun asks. "When did that happen?"

"I see you're all neglecting your memos today." Jack says. "Their language is non-verbal, so their names seem to be more like vague and brief descriptions more than anything else. At any rate, this rival hive would indicate an enemy that is of equal or similar military capacity to the hive we have interacted with already. While this is frightening enough, it seems they are locked in some manner of stalemate, or at least their conflict has them both checked for the most part. A part of me has to wonder if the entire reason the Hive is even bothering to talk to us is because they are kept busy by this more hostile neighbor. Anything more to add? Something further along the timeline, that is. Hopefully during your memory blackout?"

"Well." Devon says. "During our incarceration, some kind of valen puppet arrived and performed a data transfer with Decker."

"What do you mean?" Jack asks.

"He connected to it with his neural implant."

"So you think the theory of him hiring mercs has some validity to it?" Jack asks, Devon shrugs.

"No, well, maybe. I wouldn't rule it out entirely, since it was possible he was communicating with an outside entity. I think it was more likely he was communicating with a Theseus instance, possibly without his full knowledge. The event seemed... distressing to him. He was visibly upset by the event, and the data transfer itself looked incredibly painful."

"Anyone else notice this?" Jack asks. Grey holds up her hand for a moment.

"Yes sir, Mr. Secretary, I didn't have line of sight, but I heard Decker making noises. He seemed distressed, and Devon was saying something to him, I forget what it was exactly but he seemed concerned at whatever it was he was watching."

"I think it's possible Theseus may have hired the team. We know Lyle has worked with him before, and from what our intelligence says, he tends to pay the man in favors and cybernetics." Devon adds.

cont.
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>>2996059
Agreed. We can use this opportunities to add value without “remembering” new facts that would seem extremely suspicious.
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>>2996066
I dunno. Fear makes gators move quickly.

We have at least time until they get back to Gemini, and then however long it takes to actually get that nerve stapling appointment.
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>>2996070
>Theseus may have hired the team
>Theseus
Don't they just call him Unity?
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>>2996083
Uhoh
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>>2996083
Double Fug.
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This is why you should have shut up.
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>>2996083
I uh, am not sure how interchangeable the terms are, but I think the Union mostly says “Unity” too...
This may have been a slip of the tongue
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>>2996087
Let's hope it was just a mistake on QDs part.
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>>2996083
Fuck, i hope this is a mistake by QD.
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>>2996089
Hopefully this is just QD writing and not an actual mistake. I mean they've used both terms before so with any luck it won't be observed as a slip of a Theseus/Unity ally.
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>>2996083
Really, I'm not sure any humans even knew the Unity's self-chosen name.

The only person alive that we know he told his name to was Vaughn, and he noted that all attempts at communications with humans is generally interpreted as an attack.
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I pray our Quest Drone will be merciful.
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>>2996092
Jack might be the only pure human (Elizabeth and Seiner don't count) who knows. He is know to have spies and bugs everywhere.
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>>2996092
No, wait, he pointedly exclaims, "I am Theseus." when instancing within a new system, and he does so out loud on the speakers where everyone can hear him from some theatrical reason.

Probably people hear about that from the survivors.
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>>2996101
This
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>>2996083
Haha, oh man
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>>2996070
"Or a joint operation." Jack says. "Having the Unity involved would make sense, I doubt the Hive has much experience with the typical computer operating system, but with their mastery of wetware they would be able to find or make a weak spot for a Theseus intrusion..." Jack seems to trail off, murmuring something to himself as he looks through his reports.

"This is Decker's mental baseline from the Valen interrogation." Jack says.

"How did you get that?" DuPont asks.

"You don't want to know the answer to that." Morgan replies.

"This, on the other hand, is Decker's baseline from his prisoner records." Jack continues, two images appear next to his hologram. "There should not be this much of a difference, unless he's had a stroke in the past few months."

"Wouldn't the act of having a neural probe itself cause a different baseline?" Devon asks.

"Yes, with older models or a bad interrogator. But the valen have a very high standard for nerve stapler assisted interrogations, especially when dealing with extradited Union citizens. They know we tend to not like the procedure, even though every psychiatrist in known space has one in his closet. That procedure was overseen by at least six Union medical professionals and performed by an interrogator with a degree in neuroscience. There is no way they could have caused a baseline differential this big without causing so much pain he'd still be in a medically induced coma to deal with it."

"Then wha-"

"God damnit!" Jack says suddenly, pounding the table with his open palm. He leans over in his desk and clicks a button, there is a beep as someone says something in response, but the speaker is too poor over the transmission to make out.

"Get me the Surgeon General, I want his boys to look something over real quick." Jack says, and he turns back to Devon. "Good eye. I may just keep you out of that valen cell after all. If it does turn out Decker was involved in this, we need to know how. Everyone, at what point was Decker not with you? There must be a moment where he was unaccounted for before you got aboard the Valen platform."

>Speak (write in)
>Remain silent
>Other (write in)
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I wonder who or what Theseus is sending to the Concert
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>>2996114
Oh he suspects our parasites or something similar, oh bother.
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>>2996114
>Everyone, at what point was Decker not with you? There must be a moment where he was unaccounted for before you got aboard the Valen platform."
I think there were several times during the trip he was alone, no? Maybe mentioning that can help with getting suspicion off Devon and the rest alongside mentioning the possibility this anon proposed >>2996122
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>>2996125
Another possibility would be that he thinks Decker got replaced at some point.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
There could have been several points during the trip. However, I think the Captain was the one keeping the closest eye on Decker, though, so we should probably stay silent here.

Also >>2996122
There is no need to bring that up yet, we can let the Union figure it out organically. We also don't need to let them know about brain scans being a vector for Theseus infection - this is valuable information we may want to keep mostly secret even if the Union does figure it out on their own.
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>>2996132
>"Wouldn't the act of having a neural probe itself cause a different baseline?" Devon asks.
nevermind. This is the idea he's considering so he suspects we have implantable neural probe.
>>2996114
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>>2996114
>Speak (write in)
Sometime while they were at Bedrock.
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>>2996114
Hah, fucking hell. I think you guys just voted to give away the existence on one of our most well kept secrets.

Good job.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
We're going to have to figure out better methods of implanting people.
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>>2996141
It going to become pretty well known when we start marketing to humans.
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>>2996114
The need to reverse engineer nerve staplers accelerates. Steal one from a psychologist's office, stealth hives!

>Speak (write in)
After our sensors got knocked out and everything was on fire, Decker was unaccounted for for some time. I found him injured, with his shadehound Coco watching over him, and dragged him to safety.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
Let the rest of the crew take some heat for a bit and take attention off us.
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Honestly it's been so song I can't quite remember what happened.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
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>>2996147
Actually, wait... found LeBlanc injured at the same time and rescued him too.

That snake Anderson had just made his way out past them.
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>>2996149
>Honestly it's been so song I can't quite remember what happened.

This. Did he step out when we were on Bedrock? I think he actually stayed in, but the rest of the crew might have left.
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>>2996114
>Remain silent
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>>2996153
He was a prisoner so no. No he didn't.

>before you got aboard the Valen platform

The question is about what happened after the QComm blacked out, guys. Right during shit getting real, but before Valen captured them.

The others will REMEMBER Devon being the one to rescue LeBlanc Decker and Coco, they were on the radio.
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>>2996148
>>2996141
It was only a matter of time since we've been sticking it into more and more people and we've gone public.

>>2996147
Nope, if we say it happened while they were on the ship over Aral then that means something already snuck in or that someone else was working with us. The other possibility is that it confirms that we have stealth so good we good sneak into a ship that's being lit up and shot at by then Valen.
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>>2996156
They had cameras on Decker at literally all times up until Aral explosion. When, exactly, else would it have happened?

Also, they know Lyle worked for the hive. The attack could have breached the ship for a drone to enter from space. Or Anderson did it.
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>>2996155
>The others will REMEMBER Devon being the one to rescue LeBlanc Decker and Coco, they were on the radio.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I guess Devon can say that Decker was along going after his "Dog" when the Q-Com blacked out before Devon could get to them. We can possibly imply a transmission could have been sent then.
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>>2996160
At this point they might as well be imagining we have remote mind control.
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>>2996163
This might be a good idea.
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>>2996163
Oh yeah, it’s probably too late to add, but maybe we can do this too once everyone else has had their say?
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>>2996141
Nothing we said even hinted towards it. This is just QD doing his thing, Jack probably rolled a nat 100 or something
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>>2996178
Explaining the neural jack interfacing, it was clearly a painful experience and not fun.

It sounds nonvoluntary. And they're fairly certain that despite Luddite fearmongering, cyber implants like Decker's do not enable compulsion or being hacked.

So an alternative explanation for his behavior is needed since he didn't seem in control of the link.
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>>2996178
Given how on the Money Jack's observations have been, honestly that could well be the case.
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>>2996114
"I was sure to keep my eye on him the whole time." Grey says. "I had him accounted for at all times up to the very moment of the attack."

"And after that?" Jack says. "He was brought directly from his cell to the ship, never left during the stay at Bedrock, so it would need to be a moment while aboard the Cortez."

"During the attack," Devon says, "when the fires broke out, I recall Anderson made a break for it. He attacked me, and as he was leaving he told me to go save Decker, he said he seemed like a nice fellow and didn't want him to die, although he didn't seem to care enough to do it himself. I think he mentioned it to bait be to save Decker instead of pursuing him as he stole a shuttle."

"Which it did." Jack says.

"At the time, the records should indicate we had reported a man down after LeBlanc was injured. Devon went to assist, and Anderson used the chance to abandon ship." Grey says, her stature perfectly straight. "As the fires spread he was able to rescue LeBlanc, Decker, and even his hound."

"He, uh, refused to evacuate without it." Devon says.

"So he was conscious?" Jack says.

"Yes. Trapped by the fire. A small air leak was causing the flames to flow into the room, preventing escape. I vented the room, but still suffered severe burns from the incident. Decker was largely uninjured when I found him and was primarily concerned over his pet. It would have been possible for him to have made some kind of broadcast at the time, the cameras in the area were down at the time."

"You're assuming he was a turncoat the entire time." Jack says. "But he had no contact with anyone prior to that, so no chance to set up contacts. This would mean his entire plan was set on some kind of deadman's switch. He's a good hacker, but he doesn't strike me as the kind to be that prepared. No, someone got to him between him boarding the Cortez, and his arrival aboard the valen platform. We've suspected for a while that the Hive has some method of mental influence. The Valen reaction to them seems to hint to as much, but we don't know how it's done. If it could spread from person to person... you said Anderson had contact with Decker prior to you rescuing him?"

"Yes, Mr. Secretary." Devon says.

"Then the only people who were truly alone with him would be Anderson."

"And myself, sir." Devon says.

"Yes, but I didn't want to insult you with the implied accusation. We will sort that out once you get to Gemini. As such I'm working under the assumption everyone here will pass the medical exams. Given that, Anderson is the prime suspect as the vector of infection."

"Infection, sir?" Grey asks. "I'm sorry, I don't think I follow."

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>>2996185
So, sooooo close, Jacky-boy.

This WILL still be a bit of a bugbear for us, though.
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>>2996185
Damn looks like we'll have to have the parasite eat the spare kidney and assume its place during the scan
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>>2996185
>
huh here i was hoping they thought that unity had a new stealth program to use on cyber brains
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>>2996190
I'm not gonna lie, I think we should burn Devon after this. Jack's hitting too close for comfort.
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>>2996185
See, Anderson is the logical choice.

Now, Smash And Grab Action: nerve stapler. Do it. We have parasited taidarens for this.

Jesus is this entire day passing mostly occupied with this one conversation with Windsor.
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>>2996192
If people wanted to burn him in the first place Jack wouldn't have gotten any new data that he could hit home to.

The only upside of all this is that you don't have to burn Devon anymore. There's no benefit to burning him now it saves nothing. At worst disconnect from the spine temporarily.
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They think it's Cluster.
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>>2996192
If Devon's never had a baseline measured, the parasited baseline will just be his normal.

Short of burning the contact, we could attempt to reason with him and disconnect the parasite temporarily and hope that Devon would cooperate. I think all that we've done so far has been for everyone's benefit.
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>>2996193
Hey man, we did take over the entire Expanse, reassign Elizabeth, and begin colonization, research, and infrastructure improvements as well in this thread. That's not nothing by any means.

>>2996190
We should definitely have the parasite go into stealth mode, agreed.

We might also be able to get to the nerve stapler or the people who will be operating the scan before they actually do the scanning process. >>2996193 may have the start of a good idea, but we'll need to move fast and be aware there may be extra security in place. Taidarens alone probably won't cut it. They might also have tachyon detectors in place that will go off if we send agents in (like how the flies set off a sensor spike at Devon's old lab)
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>>2996193
Don't forget that threads last multiple irl days so we'll have a chance to do other stuff. Sounds like this is about to wrap up anyways
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>>2996199
Good point that they don’t have a baseline to measure against. I’m pretty sure we’ve mind-fucked Devon good and proper, so he is very unlikely to spill the beans the second we disconnect and go stealth.
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>>2996195
Honestly at this point Devon is more of a risk to us than an asset. While Kilinger does not apparently expect him to be the mole, he hasn't yet figured out the exact truth of our parasites. It seems he still thinks it's some form of mental contagion.

If it means concealing our brain jacking parasites from Kilinger, even for just a while longer, than it would be worthwhile just burning Devon now. It's not like he has much of a future as an infiltrator to the dark ops of the Union at this stage.
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...I'm suddenly reminded for no real reason that the Red Queen for all her brainpower is literally a child.
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>>2996200
>They might also have tachyon detectors
No they mightn't.

The only sensor that sensed the presence of tachyons in that incident was Yune's brain, which they were scanning. Yune is ash.

And they most certainly don't issue Yune clones as standard issue to every psychologist's office in the entire Union, any one of which is a valid target.

There are lots of nerve staplers out there. Not just one super valuable one.

What you're talking about is a Recruit action to compromise the testers, but we could just reverse engineer it and try to science our way out of the problem instead.
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>>2996185
"Whatever method the Hive has to influence the minds of others, we know it works on a similar principle of physics as the Skyl artifacts, and the Valen empathy abilities. For a long time now we've been trying to figure out how those worked, figured it was some as yet undetected subsonic frequency or EM pulse, or even some kind of short range magnetic resonance imaging scanner. Now that we have a definite link between the Valen and the Skyl artifacts, we can say what the valen are 'reading'" Jack makes air quotes as he speaks. "it's utilizing the unknown energy signal created by the artifacts. The fact that the Hive seem to be able to 'speak' using this signal, something the valen are terrified of I should add, tells me that the Hive fully understand this signal, and are able to use it to affect others. The valen ambassadors felt voices in their heads and strange, suddenly onset sensations that they had no full understanding of. Directly translated, one of them described it as 'hearing backwards now, considering they are naturally sensitive to this signal, it would make sense that they could consciously perceive its use on them. Thus the sudden onset of terror. Humans on the other hand..." Jack sifts through his papers again.

"Here." He says as he holds up a new data pad after finding it under a pile of loose papers. "Before we closed the labs, our research seemed to hint that humans were actually less capable of sensing this signal, but suffered greater injury from it. Valen and Ceph subjects showed a moderate sensitivity to the signal but no abnormal effects. Taidaren had no effect whatsoever, and humans, humans showed no sensitivity, but after multiple tests began to develop seemingly unrelated mental instability after multiple exposures to powered Skyl artifacts. Just about everyone we recovered from the Lunar incident was clinically insane, but none of them had a family history of mental illness."

"So you're saying this signal is... self-propagating, sir?" LeBlanc asks, visibly confused. Jack leans in on his desk, the other secretaries look on at his projection, visibly worried.

"This signal is propagated by something. Artifact, Hive, the valen are receptive to it but can't seem to broadcast it, but the hive can, the artifacts can. What if this is how they talk? Some form of radiation still not discovered by mankind?"

"Or Valen, or Taidaren?" DuPont asks.

cont.
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>>2996209
Actually I believe the tackyon emitter they were using was that refrigerator sized contraption near the room we found Lee in. It was weak as hell, and is now proooobably buried under several tons of concrete, but still.
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>>2996204
I dunno. BFI agents, they probably get nerve stapled in order to earn their security clearance.
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>>2996206
>It seems he still thinks it's some form of mental contagion.
He's a bit ahead of the curve, but we're definitely working on tech that would approach that functionality.

>>2996207
>the Red Queen for all her brainpower is literally a child.
Six or seven months now, not counting the pre-cocoon phase. Not really fair to consider the Red Queen a child in Human terms, though. Scarred Queen said it best when she said that Red Queen's youth makes her much more active.
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>>2996206
>It's not like he has much of a future as an infiltrator to the dark ops of the Union at this stage.
Devon already got us critical information on the Union's thoughts on the strengths and desires of the Hive, as well as the Union's knowledge of the Void. Once (if) he is cleared of suspicion he will be in a position to gather even more valuable information.

>>2996207
It's fun to think about. My head-canon is that the reason we have so many "jokes" (silly speakers, having our flies fuck with a specific Union flower vendor, etc.) is that the Queen really is still a child at heart even if in terms of mental capacity and physical strength she transcends anything human. For example, her desire to throw a super kick-ass metal party stems from real geo-political and strategic concerns, but also appeals to the childlike desire to throw a super-awesome best ever party with the best toys to show how awesome they are.
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>>2996214
Wouldn’t we already know if Devon had to do a mandatory nerve stapling procedure?
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>>2996224
In-character yes, out-of-character I don't think it's been mentioned.
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>>2996220
Not to mention her glee at finally being able to unleash the Titans in battle, like a child playing war with their toys
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>>2996210
Jack's notoriously bad organizational skills.
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>>2996220
I feel like if SOMEHOW we managed to finish off the Void AND the OQ AND the Scavs AND got the Union and Commonwealth to a place we're cool with, we'd probably spend a while just fucking around and being surprisingly cheeky and jokey.
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Like, I cannot WAIT for the moment where someone asks her flat out, 'Why did you do that?'

And the 100% Honest and Complete answer is:

"I just thought it'd be funny."
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>>2996230
The titan thread is still among my favorites, seeing something I directly contributed to being used to such effect was just awesome.
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>>2996230
Too true, it was literally portrayed side-by-side with Lee playing with his "Titan" with his friends.
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>>2996235
There's always been some purpose to our actions, we're not that thoughtless.

Trying to trade for couches with the Scavengers was the closest I think. We're going to get that couch in the form of a worldship, though.
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>>2996243
Finally the convenient seating we deserve
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>>2996243
>Couch
Convenient seating more like it. We've got that in our throne room.
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>>2996243
No, my point is that hopefully things will eventually calm down and stabilize to a point where we can AFFORD to just say 'because lols' as the main reason.
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>>2996210
So it seems like the Union is trying to unlock Tachyons as well. This may be something Gilliam is reassigned to even if Devon doesn't pass the scans. We will need to monitor the projects carefully.

However, I don't entirely trust Jack when he says they're "above" accusing Devon of being compromised. We need to be aware of the risk that Jack could be sharing certain false information with Devon. For example, if Jack says to Devon "we returned all the artifacts back to the hive" we won't be able to trust that necessarily.
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>>2996251
We're still waiting for that shuttle full of artifacts.
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>>2996210
"Yes!" Jack replies. "If Anderson was able to be manipulated with it somehow, it could be possible that he was able to carry some manner of relay or signal booster, something that would allow the Hive to maintain contact. Using that, he could have then used it to influence Decker during the attack. If the Hive does have stealth tech, they would be able to shadow the Cortez through the Expanse to keep in contact with Anderson. I'll have his history looked up. Every face he's worn, every scam he's pulled, he was in the Expanse at the time, it would have been relatively easy for him to have gotten wrapped up in something and potentially captured by the Hive. Whatever they did to him, I bet it was the same thing they did to Lyle, Lee, Dr, Vaughn, even agent Reager and Jackob."

"How would that be possible?" Morgan asks suddenly. "Could it be possible?"

"We've been dealing with a lot of things that shouldn't be possible." Jack replies. "Most likely, it would require close contact, and more likely some manner of clearly suspicious behavior. Something that would justify the infector making an effort to be totally alone with the target."

"We have dozens of the things in the capital building for god's sakes, you better figure it out damn quick." Nathaniel says with a sudden, slightly panicked voice.

"We will need new security measures. Even if a neural probe detects the influence we can't start mandating something like that or we'd have riots. If I'm right on the limitations though, it may be enough to have security move in groups and forbid any and all singular contact with a Hive drone or person directly associated with them. Morgan..."

"You think that includes me?" Morgan asks, a look of genuine concern on his face.

"It might. You were with security, but you were inside a Hive ship. I can't overlook that. I also can't order it but-"

"Right, right. I agree. Send a medical team when you can." Morgan replies. Jack nods and turns back to Devon and the others in the room.

"We still don't know if it actually works. One data point isn't a pattern, it's a guess, but it's the best one we have and it matches the circumstantial evidence. What we really need to focus on is discovering that signal and figuring out what it is. I'll make some calls on that and try and get things reorganized. In the meantime, we desperately need more information on the Hive, their biology, their mindset, their behavior. Once you get a clean bill of health, I may have an assignment for you. The rest of you, same thing. Union's in need of warm bodies right now. We have plenty of ships and guns, not so much people to use them. Commonwealth has the reverse."

Jack turns to something at his side, a sudden projection you can't see. His eyes go wide in a sudden panic.

"DuPont! Private channel, now!" He hits a button and the two vanish. The others look on in some confusion until you hear alarms begin to sound in their offices, and each feed is cut on its own.

cont.
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>>2996254
Yep. And even when they send us the shuttle, we won't necessarily know if they really included *all* their artifacts in the shuttle (although we can cross-reference with the stolen senticom data and the like). Just saying that even if Jack sends a shuttle and says "here are all the artifacts" and then tells Devon "We gave them all the artifacts"... the Union may still be hiding artifacts.
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>>2996255
ah fuck , knowing our luck they were monitoring the room for the psi signals and someone finally got jack to notice there were detecting them from the room
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>>2996255
Well that's not a good sign.
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>>2996255
>"DuPont! Private channel, now!" He hits a button and the two vanish. The others look on in some confusion until you hear alarms begin to sound in their offices, and each feed is cut on its own.

Oh, oh dear. It might be a CW attack, but my money is definitely on this being a Ceph incursion. Either that or yet another catastrophic laboratory mishap.
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>>2996255
>"We have dozens of the things in the capital building for god's sakes, you better figure it out damn quick." Nathaniel says with a sudden, slightly panicked voice.

I like to think that our flies are just casually and openly shadowing the council members throughout their daily lives. Just show up sitting on their car roof in the morning and the like, excitedly waving at them as they just try to get to work.
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this whole thread has just been OY VEY THEY KNOW
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>>2996255
Well if Jack is dipping to a private call with DuPont the defence minister, its one of three things.

Terrorist attack on one or both of them.
The Commonwealth just flew a new fleet in somewhere.
Obsidian queen is making another agressive action.
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>>2996255
>Union's in need of warm bodies right now. We have plenty of ships and guns, not so much people to use them. Commonwealth has the reverse.

Sounds like they should stop fighting and team up to fight the real enemies.
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>>2996263
That's the entire thread in any thread Conrad 'Fucking Mastermind' Killinger has a role in.
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>>2996264
nah they just found out Morgan gave us info and they think we've infected him. REV UP THOSE SHADOWRUNS BOYS!
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>>2996263
S H U T I T D O W N
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wYQ7dMg3u9M
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>>2994929
>ISGM launch facility – Launch facilities for ISGM's, or Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. In effect high-yield MIRV warheads fitted to corvette sized automated vessels capable of short range warp travel and the deployment of many dozens of independently targeting nuclear, kinetic, or gravitic warheads. Nicknamed 'planet busters' the very existence of these warheads are typically reserved as a deterrent, and are too large to be effectively used against anything other than planets or space cities.

Just rereading the start of the thread, did anyone else notice this? Holy shit, we need these.
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>>2996268
Funnily enough it was Jack who knows everything, Killinger didn't do shit
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>>2996266
It's almost as if they were designed with a team up in mind.
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>>2996271
getting a gravitic missile would be about as hard for us as getting a nuke would be today. It'd be a big fucking operation and the fallout would be catastrophic no matter who we framed.
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>>2996276
Sure, but we just need the tech. That's *probably* substantially easier to get than the missile itself for an entity with our resources.
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>>2996271
We can trade with the Commonwealth for them. It looks like it's the same tech they were blowing up continents on Iserhorn with.
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Did we ever recover the powertap suit deal from the Path OP? I don't remember
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>>2996280
it should be in transit.
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>>2996280
>powertap
>suit
Objectively wrong. It was a suit that uses canderon to generate gravity fields.
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>>2996279
No argument from me. Do we just want to trade services to the CW for the tech or perhaps trade tech with them instead? Maybe we can provide info on the scavs in exchange. We should probably not just demand the tech in exchange for our continued military support.
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>>2996255
Lee flicks through the morning news on his tablet as he walks into the bathroom and begins looking for a toothbrush. Instead, his mental connection directs his hand to a small object by the sink, a globule of flesh roughly the size of the tip of his thumb shaped slightly like a grub.

"Oh no, I know you have a toothbrush. I've used them before." He says, displeased, but not surprised. A speaker walks by the door casually, stopping for a moment as it chirps happily.

"This is better!" It says. Lee sighs.

Your embassador drone quickly moves to the door as you sense the approach of several Union officials. The door opens for them expectantly as the officials seem to nervously flinch as the door's muscles flex open and your drone walks up to them with a quick stride of its long, elegant legs, looming over them by several feet.

"The Union humans need something?" Your speaker says as it looks down upon them.

"Yes." One begins.
"No, actually, we're here to deliver something actually, we just need a location." The other interrupts. They nervously move away from your drone by several steps and one of them hands out a small data pad.

"This is a shipping manifest for the ah... cargo." The official says with a small cough as he clears his throat. "We need a proper location for delivery. Due to the sensitive nature of it we would prefer to not send it here." Your drone grabs the data pad and examines it, it is indeed a shipping manifest, one showing a long and meticulous list of Skyl artifacts, every chip, sliver, and shard of broken polymer. As such, the list is tremendously long.

>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
>Request they be delivered to one of your new Expanse planets (write in)
>Have them deliver it to Hive space (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>2996283
Sorry, gravetics suit. I was trying to figure out the best way to describe it
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>>2996285
>>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
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>>2996285
>Request they be delivered to one of your new Expanse planets (write in)
Bedrock orbit?
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit.
As soon as they're aboard the Hive ship we blink away the entire fleet. It is WAY too risky asking for artifacts this sensitive to be delivered anywhere we do not have a major military presence and the fleet over Gemini is well suited to protect the artifacts, as is the Hive ship itself.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit

Then once they've cleared the area, we can leave.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
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>>2996285
>>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
At least these humans deliver on time.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit

Besides we can just teleport away and i suspect the Ceph will raid any ship trying to enter the expanse.
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>>2996285
>Other (check the datapad for the amount of Void crystals they are sending to us)

Although i doubt the union referes to the void shards as anything but artifact and a serial number.
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>>2996298
Good thinking. Backing this.
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>>2996298
We should verify if the void shards are there.
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>>2996285
>>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit
If a void shard is missing we will know.
Also, let’s have our fighters provide an escort screen to the shuttle. The last thing we want is some Ceph Void Cutter to get lucky and destroy all the artifacts out from under our nose.
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>>2996304
We could always just blink the Hive ship to were the shittle us. It would be faster that way and the Ceph would try to attack the Union main capitol. Even if it's to just deny the artifacts to us.
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>>2996304
Why don't we have any ships with gravity sensors?
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>>2996307
We do, but I thought Ceph cloaking was different from ours and harder to detect due to dimensional fuckery (that we had a 10% chance of detection or something, I don’t quite remember)
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>>2996311
That's the Psionic Sensor numbnuts Gravity Sensor is completely different.
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>>2996289
No place in the expanse. Every place of it might get the risk of a Ceph attack and they would do it just to deny the artifacts to the Hive.
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>>2996261
Most likely he just got informed about the Obisidian creep. Human communication is very poor indeed.
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>>2996313
It has been years so excuse me if I don’t remember everything. Still, I’m pretty sure we have scout corvette designs with the grav sensors and that they are likely somewhere in our large orbiting fleet, especially since we have the new fleet rules where they are more generally designated.
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>>2996323
Most of our fleet is in Scav space though.
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>>2996285
>Have the artifacts delivered to your Hive ship in orbit

Your drone quickly flips through the digital pages, you find that it is truly a meticulously detailed record, but you find no Void Shards on it. You suspect they could simply be listed with a serial number, but you would be surprised if such an unusual device was not given a special notice. You are about to protest when you realize that it may be possible that they simply do not realize the void shards are themselves included in the demand, after all, you demanded Skyl related artifacts, and to the Union, the void shards are a Ceph propulsion device with unusual properties and nothing more, although you suspect the higher up intelligence sources would suspect something more, and it is entirely possible that the Union officials are simply attempting to go for a loophole. Demanding them separately would require you to inadvertently divulge to them the fact you were able to discover they held them in the first place, and it may be more wise to follow up on your own investigation and find them yourself.

>Accept the artifacts and don't mention the shards
>Accept the artifacts and demand the void shards
>Refuse to take the shipment until the void shards are included
>Other
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>>2996326
>>Refuse to take the shipment until the void shards are included
We bluntly told morgan to his face when we first met that we wanted the void shards didnt we?
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>>2996326
>Accept the artifacts and don't mention the shards

For now...
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>>2996326
Ummm, QD, our demands were specifically as follows:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/48523245/#p48527443
>"Your Union will surrender all Ceph devices and precursor artifacts. The devices you call Void Shards will be given to the Hive immediately. They are beyond your ability to understand, and will bring destruction of their own accord if not contained. It can only see those who have seen it, and destroyed the race whose artifacts you pillage from Hive space. They will continue if not stopped, and continuing your ignorant support of this existential threat will be cause for the Hive to intervene." You say as your drone scurries back to the table.
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>>2996326
>Accept the artifacts and demand the void shards
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>>2996326
>They tried to keep the void shards
>>Refuse to take the shipment until the void shards are included
>Other
Visibly prime weapon and defensive platforms on our ships over gemini, and scramble their fighter/drone wings.

These fucking apes haven't learned a goddamn thing.
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>>2996331
he knows, this is just an event were the union are trying to use loopholes on us and we need to give a response
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>>2996326
>>Accept the artifacts and demand the void shards
Too dangerous
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>>2996326
"This list is exhaustive but incomplete."

Request to contact someone with appropriate clearance and discuss the matter with them. I don't see the problem in literally telling them that the void shards are the dangerous things we are talking about, and the reason that we suspect they have more of them is because we walked into a laboratory with one of those things in the middle of five power taps. Elizabeth was there and saw the shard. We even retrieved it. We have reason to believe there are more.
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>>2996326
Supporting >>2996337
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>>2996331
Yes, but they don't know you know they have more shards, and if you demand them now, they will know you know. I just wanted to double check on that.
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>>2996329
Yes we definitely told Morgan we wanted the Void shards and Ceph artifacts specifically: see >>2996331

>>2996326
>Other
>Humans did not include Void Shards or Ceph artifacts as we had discussed with your speaker Morgan. If you do not wish to remove them from containment that may be for the best. Please inform us of where the shards are stored immediately so we can take possession of them ourselves.
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>>2996341
Oh, got it. So they are pretending they have no shards and are attempting a double-cross then? That is an... unwise decision. They really should know better than to lie to us when our intel is as good as it is.
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>>2996334
This desu. I'd support blinking in one more fleet too
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>>2996341
Hinting the partial extent of our intel network is small price to pay for keeping the physical extension of our greatest enemy out of meddling human hands.
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>>2996341
>but they don't know you know they have more shards
Did we have the capability to detect them? I remember we "heard" the psionic signal from the one at Nowhere, but was that because we can feel them, or because it was being ripped asunder?

This is a matter of extreme gravitas. We will obtain them by force if they are not provided, scouring every single location clean.
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>>2996341
Thanks QD, makes sense now.

If we demand void shards it doesn't necessarily reveal that we were behind the break-in on Path, just that our intelligence is incredibly good (which they already know). We should demand the shards be returned now.

>>2996349
Agreed, let the humans know they can play their little games elsewhere, but NOT when it comes to Void shards. In fact, we should probably be explicit that if they attempt to lie to us again (even as a lie by omission as in this case) about Void Shards we would consider that grounds for war.
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>>2996352
We know they have at least 1 more shard (and possibly more? Not sure on the details) because of the info gained from the Senticom raid.
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>>2996353
Exactly, every other issue they could possibly bring up with the hive is a joke compared to the lethal significance of the void shards.
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>>2996348
I'd have no problem with blinking in about 2k-4k more ships from their holding location in Scav space to Gemini just to emphasize the extreme gravity of attempting to deceive us in this matter. If they persist in their attempts at deception we can overtly threaten to invade in order to find the shard if they do not turn it over first.
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>>2996356
>>2996359
I still think we should “offer” to send our fleets to pick up the Void shards ourselves if they are not turned over. It is a less blatant theat, but it is obvious enough we know they are lying and we are prepared to seize them with military force if needed.

>>2996337
Good call in asking to speak with someone with clearance rather than venting on a peon. Support
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>>2996366
This seems like the smart thing to do
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>>2996326
"This list seems to be incomplete." Your drone says. "Any additional void shards must be included in the shipment."

"I don't..." The official begins, "I'm not really sure what any of it is, to be frank, but I was told we were handing over everything. If it's not on the list, I don't think the Union has one." You skim the surface of his thoughts. These two officials, at least, are truthful, but you know they have collected more of them, and you doubt they have managed to squander all of them just yet, despite losing several aboard the scuttled stealth vessel.

"It would be unwise to attempt deception." Your drone chitters softly. "We must speak with your commanding thinkers. Please, enter, we will make the needed calls." Your speaker gestures to the open door. The two smile nervously as they walk in, the both of them jumping as the door seals behind them and your speaker strides over to one of the offices where Lee is furiously gargling a glass of water before splitting it into a bowl held by a worker, a look of mild disgust on his face.

"Still, ah... still taste it. Yea, needs some work I think." he mutters as he stands to face the door.

"These Union speakers bring the list of artifacts. They claim the Union has no void shards." Your speaker says with the tone of a teacher explaining the poor behavior of a child to a parent. The officials grow increasingly concerned.

"Well, we can always ask." Lee says. He sits back down in his seat and a computer screen is suddenly projected of hard light over his desk, which is also hardlight. He gestures to the empty space on the other side of the desk, and two seats materialize as your speaker guides the two to them with a gentle, yet firm grip of the shoulders as they sit down into the softly glowing seats.

"Do you have the contact information of anyone that would know?" Lee asks.

"Well we've been working with the offices of both Secretaries Morgan and Windsor." One of them says. Lee slides the keyboard over to them as it shifts through the screen and flips to face them with a flicker of the haptic hologram, the computer screen doing the same. The two look at each other with grave concern, their minds rapidly approaching panic as thoughts of grave and unsettling fates run through their minds, and one of them quickly types in the number of Morgan's office as his mind thinks of various political kidnapping training seminars.

"Hello, thank you for contacting the personal office of Secretary of State Neville Morgan, unfortunately he is unavailable and his staff is unable to answer this call. This is a VI auto-secretary-" The other quickly grabs the keyboard and types in the number for Jack, and quickly receives the same response, both lines humming away uselessly as the VIs bleat out their canned lines. Suddenly both are cut, replaced with the seals of their offices, and a loud metallic clang is heard outside.

cont.
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>>2996372
>and a loud metallic clang is heard outside.
Are their offices under siege?
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I really hope they just acquiesce. It'd put a major bummer on our concert.
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>>2996372
An event is presently occurring!
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>>2996372
>a loud metallic clang is heard outside.
Ummm, what would cause them to trip an alarm on Gemini and ignore urgent calls from the Hive? A ceph attack maybe?

Whatever the threat is it is probably here in the system and not at an unrelated planet.

We should have our main fleet in Scav space spin up their drives and prepare to jump back immediately if needed.

>>2996376
Yeah, I'd really like to avoid having to delay the concert by invading the Union first too.
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>>2996375
Either that or our embassy is going to get to test its defenses.
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>>2996380
Hmmm, it could be a terrorist attach by those Ceph extremists we were warned about. Multiple simultaneous attacks with the ultimate objective of retrieving or destroying the relics that are being sent to Hive custody.
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>>2996372
Your perimeter drones quickly look up to the spires of the Parliament building as a series of segmented metallic armor sheets suddenly slide down over the windows, one after another from beneath the ferecrete exterior, until the whole building is a solid layer of metallic polymer armor. Guards and personnel are seen scrambling bellow as they either dive in ord out of the building as the massive blast doors seal shut, and as they seal with a great thud of metal on stone, a klaxon begins to sound over the city. There is a sudden rumbling, as if an earthquake has begun, and the entire block of embassy buildings and corporate lobby offices suddenly begins to sink, the entire layer of building lowering into the ground as a metal roof quickly sheaths over the open top, suddenly snapping off a small piece of antenna that was several feet above the regulation height of your embassy, a small method of both testing the importance they place on that regulation, and as a small method of showing your protest of their strange diplomatic rituals.

While your embassy holds its own internal power supply, the interior of the street becomes lit with a softly strobing emergency light, and a very, very old sounding speaker system suddenly begins announcing a similarly old sounding recording.

Attention, attention, a Confederate attack has been detected, please remain where you are. The recording crackles as it repeats in a deep, poorly accented voice in several languages.

"How old is that recording?" Lee asks. "What's going on?"

"That's the anti-bombardment system, It hasn't been used since the Colony wars, I guess nobody bothered to update the recording." One of the officials says, his voice squeaky and dry as they both turn pale.

cont.
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>>2996386
Our embassy has shielding right?
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oh it's just the commonwealth
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Wait, the Commonwealth?!

Jesus, can we get them to piss off for a minute?
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>>2996386
Shit is in the process of getting real.
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>>2996388
Definitely not the CW. They would have to attack through our entire Gemini fleet which would almost certainly have already detected them. The officers even say it's an ancient recording that has not been updated since the Colony wars.

Whatever is going on, we need to place the fleet on high alert and prepare to bring in reinforcements as soon as it is viable.
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>>2996386
Oh shit...Is it the Cephs? i think it's the cephs. If it's the scavs the union and commonwealth war might be forced to stop.
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>>2996389
If it is them, with us occupying the Scavs for them they must've freed up some ships. I mean, makes sense they'd attack, especially without our fleet there to accidentally get in the way. They're definitely going to avoid our Hive ship
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>>2996388
>>2996389
Guys, the Confederacy hasn't been a thing for over a century.
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>>2996390
On the plus side if everyone dies they no longer know or care about Devon!
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>>2996392
I'm 90% sure it's the Cephs. They're the only ones with both the motive to attack and that could get close without getting blown to bits by our fleet.
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it's a scav worldship. calling it now.
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>>2996389
>>2996388
The system was programed by the commonwealth. I doubt it would be then. But god then if it's these guys don't joke around do they?
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>>2996389
>can we get them to piss off for a minute?

I'd be up for telling the Commonwealth off, if this is really them.

Somehow, I don't think it is... Attacking the capital system would take testicles the size of moons. If it's actually the commonwealth, I'd be impressed as well as annoyed.
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>>2996396
Fucking hell these Squids you don't simply attack the world of a major power. But maybe they saw our lone Hiveship as a good oportunity target.
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>>2996397
Anon the scavs would only move those after their fleets had already ripped any other fleets in a system to bloody shreds. They're bloodthirsty, not stupid.
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>>2996399
I bet it's the space Catholics on order of the space Pope. They have no chill
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>>2996402
'twas but a jest
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>>2996401
I think we have nearly 1000 ships escorting the Hive ship. But they might have assumed that Void shards would be in the artifacts that would be handed over (just like we did) and decided they had to attack in order to prevent the Hive from getting access to god-killing weaponry.
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>>2996409
Funny thing is we aren't doing that (yet)
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>>2996405
GOD i hope it's the Ceph just so we can show the Union what a hive ship can do and what a big boys war looks like.
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>>2996401
Also, for what it's worth, they attacked our Mother's world and played a part in her demise - and she was *definitely* a major power even at the end of her life.
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>>2996409
Funny thing after they witnessed what mom did with their fleets by using the psionic cannon i can see that happening.
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Wait if it's the Cephs could they be planning to glass the planet?
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oh shit how many ships did we have above the planet again?
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>>2996386
The small freighter begins to accelerate, the pilot, some old looking merchant with an unevenly trimmed beard and a cheap cybernetic eye watches as the ship's acceleration rises with some impatience. The wait to receive clearance to launch was truely agonizing, although understandable with the PDF in such a panic. Your clones had to hide in the smuggling containers for several inspections before the authorities were convinced to clear them for departure. Kent sits beside him, examining the air traffic on the console as they make adjustments to the plotted course in response.

Suddenly, the both of them turn as the radio begins buzzing on a all frequencies.

"Alert, alert, all civilians clear the airspace. Planetary point defence array is being raised, all non-military vessels beneath one thousand kilometers will be destroyed, repeat..."

"The fuck is going on?" Kent says.

"I don't know, but it's not a ship. IO guns are still cold." The pilot says as he examines his sensors. "It's the atmo-flak."

"Ceph raid?" Kent asks.

"On Path? They hit freighters, not major military ports, and this is a Union wide transmission, that's a Secretary seal on the comms. This alert is covering more than one system at least."

"Are we... going to land?" One of your clones asks.

"We land now we'll never get off this rock." the pilot says. "We're punching it." He quickly types out a new vector and the small freighter begins to shake, the rattling of its hull echoing through the cramped bridge as you hear cargo netting snap and crates fly across their holds behind you.

At that moment, your Hive ship's gravity sensors detect something. A single, small, and very fast corvette. Your standard visual sensors quickly shift and wait for the light to reach you.

cont.
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>>2996418
According to the archive:

>228 corvettes
>744 frigates
>222 cruisers
>24 battlecruisers
>6 battleships
>1 mamma mia
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>>2996412
A hive ship is a massive, massive target that moves like cold molasses.

Ceph void cutters are the fastest, most agile ships in known space with weapons of literally limitless energy, capable of boring through any armor.

A fight between a hive ship and swarm of void cutters on their own is heavily weighted in the void cutter's favor.
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>>2996413
True but they should be licking their wounds by now.

>>2996417
Most likely yeah. The war has finnaly come to the Human world. Also i think it can't be the ceph since their cloaking shouldn't be detectable by the Union tech.
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>>2996421
You also sent the vast majority of them to overwhelm the scav forces, and if I recall you left most of them there.
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>>2996422
Our citadel has a multilayered shields, rapid damage control and a huge hangar. It'd be a closer fight than you're admitting
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> and this is a Union wide transmission, that's a Secretary seal on the comms. This alert is covering more than one system at least."

what in the goddamn
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>>2996420
Well shit is getting real guys.
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>>2996427
Shields and Damage control mean nothing against the Void Cutters.
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>>2996430
>inb4 Obisidian Hive is portion across all the places she knows our ships are to finnaly determine how big our fleet is
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Does our hive ship have a psi jammer? Do we even have that tech?
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>>2996425
Oh, I thought the Gemini fleet wasn't sent to fight the scavs. My bad. Thanks QD.

That would add another 1000+ ships to the total fleet size in Scav space (not that it particularly matters)

>>2996420
Is it an OQ attack or... I'm not even sure what that is.
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>>2996420
>A single, small, and very fast corvette
ITS A SCAV SCOUT VESSEL.
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>>2996432
....Shields I'd buy, at least the more primitive ones. But saying the rapid damage control is quite literally conjecture because we've never seen it used against them.
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>>2996432
We still have lot of figthers and we can just teleport the big ship or more ships if we need to.

This seems like a forced scan to spread as many ships as possible to determine our ship numbers. Or just a Ceph Raid.
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>>2996436
THE SCAVS ARE HERE BOIS!!! TIME TO UNITE HUMANITY AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY!!
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>>2996437
The Void cutter use a hyper advanced version of the plasma lances and just like those lances they ignore ALL shields and armor.
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>>2996441
No, no they do not. They use a concentrated neutrino beam that ignores armor. It's not even the same technology.
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>>2996439
I hope not, inter human conflict has thus far proven to be a very useful distraction from our affairs for the Union
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>>2996443
Eh we have a pact with the Commonwealth not the Union. Besides we will protect Gemini just because the Scavs got in when we were trying to make negotiations with the Union.
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>>2996442
The only reason anyone called it a neutrino beam is because it produces neutrinos not because it uses them as a weapon (check the archives and you'll see) and it's been explicitly called a lance too.
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>>2996438
Approximate size and location of the entire Hive Armada: it may be useful

>1 Mothership [Gemini]

10x Ambush fleet [Scav space]
>1000 Corvette
>500 Frigate
>100 Cruiser
>10 Battlecruiser

25x Light fleet [Scav space]
>1500 Light Fleet Frigate
>375 Light Fleet Cruiser

10X ambush fleet [Scav space]
>1000 Fast Assault Corvette
>500 Fast Assault Frigate
>300 Fast Assault Cruiser
>50 Fast Battlecruiser

6 Carrier strike group [Scav space]
>72 Escort Corvette
>24 Strike Carrier [Cruiser]
>6 Carrier [Battleships]

25 Heavy Battlefleet [CW liberation]
>25 Heavy Battleship
>100 Heavy Battlecruiser
>300 Heavy Cruiser
>600 Heavy Frigate
>800 Heavy Corvette
>150 Patrol Corvette

35 Light Fleet [CW Liberation]
>2100 Light Frigate
>525 Light Fleet Cruiser

Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Leeland Defense]
6 heavy cruiser
12 heavy frigate
16 heavy corvette
3 patrol corvette
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>>2996447
It's not a plasma lance, I don't need to check anything. It doesn't even look like one
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>>2996450
Please let me know if I missed anything, we have a shit-ton of ships.
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>>2996420
You are quickly becoming concerned the freighter is about to explode, but both Kent and the ship's pilot have the calm demeanor of someone who has experienced far worse from the machine and seen it come through in one piece. Above you, a number of small dots in the sensors begin to heat up as a number of point defence pickets begin to warm up. There are fewer than you would otherwise expect, and you realize a number of them must have been destroyed when the Obsidian Queen attacked the planet. Each one is a small, snubby looking ship, roughly half the length of a corvette due to the lack of a proper drive. As you look at the zoomed in sensor view, you see each one articulate a number of auxiliary point defense turrets that quickly pivot outwards away from the surface.

"You sure about this? You know they sounded serious about that 'shoot everyone down' thing." Your clone says.

"Yea, it's a half-bluff. They're not going to just shoot down everything without an IFF, but they won't second guess either. It's mostly for lawsuits and to try and scare civies away." Kent replies. "What it really means is 'we can't tell who is who, and we are going to shoot down everything that isn't us.' Whatever it is they are preparing for, they won't actually start shooting until it shows up. Until then they can more or less tell the difference by eye-balling it on the scanns."

"Alert, outgoing vessel, you are flying in a kill-zone. Return to the surface or be destroyed." The person on the radio repeats at increasing volumes until Kent switches it off and begins adjusting the scopes as your cloaked pod detects a new warp-flash surprisingly far within the system.

"Goddamn, is that..." The pilot says.

"Jesus, it is." Kent replies.

Your Hive ship's scanners suddenly detect its gravitational anomaly. A momentary flash of radiation signaling a warp drive emergence. It is unusually far into the system, much closer than any typical warp traffic would be willing to emerge, and its speed is incredible. The object seems to be almost all drive, with two drive rings, one on the front and one on the end. Apart from that it is a near perfect cylinder. You examine its trajectory and determine it is heading towards Gemini Beta.

Cont.
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>>2996451
>It doesn't even look like one
>it doesn't look like this thing I've never seen before
Great arguing skills ;^)
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>>2996455
Is that a goddamn fireship?
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>>2996455
wait the absolute madmen are just going straight for the nuclear option?
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>>2996455
Sell shit, let's blink what we can in to intercept the attacks (if we can?)
Relevistic attacks using extremely (and surprisingly) accurate warp jumps. That's new. Also, not something the CW is likely to employ against massive cities - as much as they hate the Union genocide is not their objective.
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>>2996455
Are the madmen bombarding the Union with drive ships?
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>>2996457
Man you've been a shit to everyone who pissed in your cornflakes? Also we've "see" the neutrino beam in thread when the ceph raided an outpost we placed a pod. The beam looks nothing like a lance. You need to stop trying to be le witty 4chan arguer man, it doesn't look great.
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>>2996455
Is this actually a Commonwealth attack? The crazy men.
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>>2996462
I thing they are.

>>2996461
Still this is a human problem and i dount we can do anything before it happens.

i think we are about to witness a reverse Hiroshima and Nagazaki scenario...
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Wait, now I'm lost. What the fuck is happening?
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>>2996465
Magnus doesn't fuck around uh? At least he madr the decency of targeting a military facility
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>>2996467
Looks like the commonwealth is attacking the union with super fast ships. What they're loaded with or plan to do we're not sure yet.
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So is the smaller corvette supposed to act as some sort of Forward Air Control analogue?

>>2996467
Commonwealth attacking the Union military capital with relativistic kamikaze ships.
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>>2996467
Union is droping a ship warp drive nuke on Union main military bases with a pin point surgical strike.

The madman!
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>>2996470
>>2996472
what. who's ship is this?
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>>2996467
Drive ships crash into population centers at relativistic speeds. Big boom. Many dead.

>>2996468
If this is Magnus he has a lot to answer for. We gave him cover from the Scavs and this is how he responds? Not cool bro.

I suspect there may be more going on here than meets the eye, though.
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>>2996463
>The beam looks nothing like a lance.
It operates just like a lance and has ranges like a lance thus it's a lance but you'll just ignore that no matter what is said.
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>>2996469
>>2996470
>>2996472
...fucking hell. Okay, yeah, we need to tell them to piss off.
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>>2996472
Now that's some deep lore shadowrunning. This is all an op by Killinger to gauge the queens reaction.
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>>2996473
Commonwealth suicide ships.

>>2996474
I mean he is targeting the humans not us and the ships are going to the military center so...unless this is part of the accelerated time table they mentioned
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>>2996474
If this is Magnus I'd give him a high five for creative thinking in the middle of a war. This is how you play for keeps.
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>>2996476
I was thinking we could use this oppurtunity for some fire-sal hardball negotiation. We help the Union intercept the attacks or tell the Commonwealth to call it off in exchange for the locations of the void shards RIGHT NOW.

The downside is that this may not go down well with the Commonwealth admiralty.
Assuming that this is of course a commonwealth attack and not something else.
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>>2996477
Well Killinger did say they might need to advance the time table to their schedule. Whatever that is.
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>>2996483
I don't think we should fuck with the commonwealth about this, we did promise to not interfere in their human conflict.
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>>2996483
>The downside is that this may not go down well with the Commonwealth admiralty.
"Next time you want to shoot something into a system where we have a ship and onto a planet where we have an embassy, let us know and we won't shoot it down."

>>2996485
We have no reason to believe this is from the Commonwealth.

-It could be a terrorist attack by people who are angry at the Union giving in to the Hive's demands.
-It could be a human corrupted by Void Shards.
-It could be a Unity drone gone rogue.
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>>2996486
fair enough
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>>2996485
Indeed beside the thing is targeting Gemini Beta which is a military base. So not our problem.
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>>2996484
I actually wouldn't put it beyond Killinger to orchestrate false-flag attacks like this, but I suspect this is too far even for him. This could do serious damage to the Union's military capabilities and they already have at least two major threats to deal with.

>>2996483
Yeah, I think the CW doesn't *really* want this war and we said nothing about helping them against the Union. Something doesn't sit right with me about just assuming it's a CW attack.
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>>2996485
Right forgot that part, though to be fair, we could always claim that we had no idea that it was theirs ala >>2996486


>>2996484
>>2996477
You know what the worst part is?
I don't doubt this line of thinking at all.
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>>2996486
It's gping toward Gemini Beta anon. Not Gemini itself.
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>>2996486
Agreed and well said.
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Call Theseus to snipe it
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We could just ask the CW admiralty if they're currently attacking Gemini Beta.
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>>2996495
Aren't our ships faster than Theseus's? Ours are certainly much more expendable.
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>>2996495
you jest, but someone might take this seriously.

>>2996497
this too.
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>>2996493
"The Union has not surrendered all requested artifacts. Damaging them is unwise. It may have been on the planet."
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>>2996492
They are targeting military places though. Like Gemini Beta and Path. So i don't think we should do that.
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>>2996497
This is Theseus's best chance to show he's a good boy.
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>>2996493

Kent is not at Gemini Beta and he is at least seeing something crazy near Path (city planet). This is a widespread attack across multiple systems.
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random thought, did we ever give theseus the multilayered shield tech? or trade with him?

He'd find it super useful I'm sure
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>>2996455
Which admiral's idea was it to launch ISGMs? At least we get to see them in action.
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>>2996455
Your clones grip their seats, their fingers digging into the metal as the ship's shield cap begins to glow red and flames begin to dance across the surface. You don't recall ever witnessing a ship burn from friction as it leaves an atmosphere before. The shaking is intense, as several storage compartments fly open and sending spare skinsuits scattering over the room.

Beyond the atmosphere you watch as the object is quickly approaching Path as defensive missiles begin streaming from the local picket ships. Streams of lasers fire from the object to cut down some of them, and you watch the same over Gemini as the planet's point defence begins firing out guided munitions.

The metallic cylinder suddenly bursts, and you see several dozen smaller cruise missiles within light their own gravitic drives, each one rapidly being cut down by the incoming point defence. They flash in small bursts as the defensive missiles detonate on proximity, incinerating the incoming warheads with a small atomic warhead, flash-frying the warhead with radiation as they burn away harmlessly like gnats in a bug light.

You watch as the small warheads are whittled down. They quickly pass your Hive Ship and continue to the Gemini Beta where you are able to determine the more detailed target to be a local fleet depot where several fleets worth of craft can be seen undergoing assembly from mothball status, each one being pulled out of various silos prefab part by prefab part. You see other, similar storage silos spread across the planet, each one a small warhead homing in on it as their local point defence cannons begin to fire, lighting up the surface with streams of flak and particle beams.

Over Path, several gaps in the point defence network become quickly apparent. Remaining picket fleets begin maneuvering to cover the gaps, and fresh ships only today pulled from storage from the local shipyards begin opening fire with their turrets even as they sit in drydock on the surface.

Kent grits his teeth as a cloud of shrapnel rocks the ship's hull, several alarms blaring indicating minor hull breaches along several cargo pods. "Punch it!" He shouts.

"We're still in the gravity well!" The pilot shouts back, his hand working over the ship's own point defence laser to cut down several missiles as they lock onto the ship's signature by mistake.

"We won't make it that far, set to minimum range and punch it!" Kent is quickly setting up a warp field calculation, not bothering with any of the spatial coordinate data, and the pilot quickly grabs the control as a number of additional warnings display across the entire bridge.

[WARNING: GRAVITY WELL TOO DEEP.][/RED]

A pre-recorded voice begins repeating the alert in a grating voice as he pushes the lever forward, and the ship's shaking suddenly halts, the sensors go dark, and a warp bubble projects around the ship with a sudden and tremendous thunderclap of energy clearly visible in the night sky of Path's surface.

cont.
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>>2996460
That metaphor is centuries out of date. Nukes are rather mild responses now.

It's the gravetic option.

>>2996462
>>2996467
>>2996472
It's called Interstellar Gravitic Missiles. It was a concept introduced in this thread.
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>>2996499
>
Detailed multifrequency scans of designated orbital paths have resulted in the successful recovery of artifact Omega. Additional survey scans of the area have resulted in additional artifact recovery. It is believed all artifacts have been secured. Six artifacts have been recovered, each classifying into one of two types. On site teams have classified the artifacts as either active or inactive, active artifacts are to be recovered only under supervision of BFI personnel and with the precautions listed in recover team briefing orders protocol six-eight-one. Inactive artifacts are to be contained within provided material containers only. Of the six artifacts, two were determined to be inactive, four were classified as active.

>Two additional active artifacts have been recovered and moved to deep storage during the standard operation of civilian assisted cleanup of Earth orbit. It is the recommendation of this panel that all civilian activity on and around Earth be terminated immediately and for the foreseeable future to prevent any potential containment incidents until such time as the ability to detect and entirely guarantee all artifacts have been cleared from the area, or study of the artifacts has reduced the potential threat of containment to negligible levels.

>The following requests have been approved by the Union Research and Development division: One active artifact shall be delivered to Tenebrous research facility for functional material research. Four active artifacts shall be delivered to Olympus Shipards Pluto research and development facility for starship materials development. One active artifact shall be delivered to Tadega military testing facility site 15 for military application testing under Prometheus Initiative.

From Thread 63.8 There are no more artifact on Path and on Gemini Beta.
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>>2996509
Smart move wipe ing out the fleets still in dry dock
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>>2996509
I was expecting something more planet-busting, but I guess it makes sense.

Godspeed to Kent though.
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>>2996513
fuck Kent I just want to know that the suit is fine.
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>>2996514
this desu
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>>2996511
Thanks for pulling that up.

>>2996513
Kent better make it, we've got a nice piece of tech in that ship.

>>2996510
>Interstellar Gravitic Missiles
I saw that mentioned, but it appeared to be something only the Union had. It would make sense to have some kind of WMD parity, though.
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>>2996509
Holy shit Magnus!! Dam i'm loving the Commonwealth even more now!!

>You watch as the small warheads are whittled down. They quickly pass your Hive Ship and continue to the Gemini Beta

Oh look it's the Commonwealth
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>>2996516
Well duh the Union doesn't tend to have unique tech that's never copied.

Not that this isn't totally a false flag attack to escalate things for the sake of the king bill or something.
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>>2996512
In some ways yes, it is smart. In other ways, we need those ships to be able to fight the OQ, and the Union could always retaliate, which means less CW forces to fight the scavs.

We really need to put some effort into ending this destructive war now, they are burning assets that are needed for a real war to come.
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Oh shit. Is this the equivilant of murrica vs soviets but they actually fired nukes?
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>>2996521
Your first mistake was expecting the humans to do anything useful as a group. Just vote to build more fleets and handle everything by ourselves.
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>>2996521
Not really though. We don't need the help of the Commonwealth or Union to fight against another queen.
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>>2996522
Not nukes, more like conventional-warhead ICBMs like the long-dong 21
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>>2996521
Let the kids have their war. They will get tired of it eventualy. Also after this if they don't give us the artifacts we might as well Join the Commonwealth in their war.
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>>2996521
Humans fighting the OQ is literally a gift to the OQ, fuck no.

They would get reverse engineered and make the war worse than it is.

Humans are not suitable against anything but Scavengers, who have already been exposed to them.
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>>2996521
How would we go about it though? come by saying 'hey guys stop fighting, you guys have bigger fish to fry' when they're fighting each other?
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>>2996528
They already said in their (Union) meeting they are completely unwilling to fight Obsidian Queen and the Void.
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>>2972088
>I'll dump them over time naturally

We... we aren't going to get to see any scouting pods are we.
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>>2996521
>We really need to put some effort into ending this destructive war now
I agree in principle, but there isn't a great way for us to do that that won't just put off their fight until later.
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>>2996509
Your pod watches as several of the warheads make it past the pickets, rapidly falling towards a number of shipyards built around the peripheries of the major cities. They mostly look the same, although their layouts differ. Each a large collection of silos and massive arcologies sized manufacturing centers built around either an artificial lake or a large number of water storage tanks consisting of several city blocks. Among them are various barracks and apartment buildings devoted to military personnel and assembly workers for the ships. The facilities are far more expansive than a mere storage silo, but include entire factories for building ships from scratch, many likely holding experimental or top of the line designs within their massive walls.

As your flies watch as the closest warhead makes contact, you watch as the ships already in the process of launching in a panic evaporate into nothing, their hulls fracturing like delicate twigs and quickly scattering like a crushed leaf. A shockwave spreads out from the point of impact, snapping a number of the buildings outright as the smaller industrial and military structures fall into dust, while most of the industrial shipyards stand against it. A moment after the initial shockwave is followed by a rapidly growing ball of light you quickly realize is a singularity, its horizon made glowing white hot with the super heated air surround its event horizon as it obliterates everything in its radius, pressing over the walls of the industrial structures with a strange calmness, slowly, without visible damage as they stand against the destruction, but simply cease to be as the light engulfs them. Cargo trucks, military shuttles, cargo waiting to be loaded, all begin to fly upwards into the sky, spiraling into the glowing maw of oblivion as it expands over the shipyard.

The city beyond the shipyards are suddenly wracked with conflicting forces as the shockwaves push away at the buildings and the gravity pulls them in. Windows shatter in a rolling wave before suddenly reversing, flying towards the shockwave's source. Vehicles across the empty streets roll over and are tossed across the roads, before slowly dragging themselves back with the sound of grating metal. The clouds rapidly form into funnels, twisting into a torrent of vortices above the singularity as lightning discharges across the city skyline and power rapidly fails in rolling, irregular brownouts.

cont.
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>>2996534
Ah, gravitic singularity warheads.
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>>2996537
>That fucking pic
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>>2996534
>A moment after the initial shockwave is followed by a rapidly growing ball of light you quickly realize is a singularity
Fuckin incredible.

The CW boys did some work.
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>>2996534
Fucking hell they just crippled the Union main military fleets with one single surgical strike.

Hopefully after being beaten down like that we asking then to give all the artifacts will be possible unless they want to fight the Commonwealth and the Hive after losing so many ships.
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>>2996540
Dpeaker should be putting some sunglasses as our Embassy just use the Hardlight hologram to show what is happening. Man those two representatives gonna thank their luck we hold then.
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>>2996541
This is only a flesh wound. There are other storage facilities.

This will just make the populace more fearful and more desperate for a strongman to submit all their freedoms to willingly.
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>>2996541
This wasn't the fleet but ships held in mothball while personnel were trained. A massive blow to their capability to wage any longer war but it won't have a large impact on the immediate campaign.
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I seem to recall that the original reason for this war was because we steath nuked a prototype stealth ship that was going to false-flag a diplomatic conference.

Honestly I don't regret it. For all we know the false-flag would have had the same effect, except the Union would have a prototype stealth ship still.
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>>2996544
>>2996543

And now that the thing about the secretary speaking about the Union having more ships then people unlike the Commonwealth makes so much more sense...
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>>2996534
You are growing concerned at the radius of the singularity as more and more of the overpasses and transit lines criss crossing between the city and the shipyards begin to fall into the expanding orb. Shuttles and abandoned freighters twist in their mooring anchors as the local spaceport skims the edge of the destruction as several ships snap in half, their fallen hull segments dragging across the ground as chunks tear off from their sides and fly through the air.

Then there is a shift in the air. As if someone had just flipped a switch, the gravitational field collapses in on itself, rapidly breaking down as the event horizon quickly collapses. The ball of light shrinks, receding back beyond the event horizon as the singularity becomes a black hole once more as its event horizon falls away faster than the air in which it is compressing around it, until it reaches a minimal radius, and a sudden flash of light glows from the ground zero, now a massive, spherical crater, as the small, glowing dot gently drifts downwards like a floating ember over a dying fire, its light fading slowly as it continues to shrink, the light shifting from the bright flicker of superheated gasses rushing into its event horizon into a more muted purple of Hawking radiation, until it becomes nothing.

The city is silent. The air is still. Suddenly, slowly, you begin to hear the sounds of sirens, emergency vehicles rushing out across the city, and screams of terror as people emerge from their shelters as the faint glow of fires in the distance replace the darkened neon lights of the city.

Cont.
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>>2996547
No.

The war did not start until Killinger planted a leak and provoked Prince von Reuenthal to launch a pre emptive strike against an imaginary offensive. The Union populace would never have supported the Tories striking first.
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Amusingly it could be that the CW decided on this tactic because they believe we're willing to sell them more canderon so they're more willing to spend it on missiles.
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>>2996551
Well dang, that was intense.
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>>2996554
Canderon is pretty hard to get right? And it's almost always reused/salvaged except in things like the Canderon warhead we just saw?
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>>2996553
Oh right there was something like that. As expected of Killinger.

>>2996554
I'd sell the Commonwealth more Canderon.
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>>2996558
Killinger is damn good at what he does.
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>>2996559
I'd still like to see him dead
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>>2996551
Well i guess the Commonwealth REALLY want to make that victory party on our resort uh?

>Inb4 this attack was only accepted because all the Commonwealth nobility wants to end things soon to visit the Hive resort.
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>>2996554
We are explicitly demanding more Canderon from them. That would more than cancel out their own imports.

Which, wonder when our first payment arrives.

We still haven't even gotten the wreckage of the Mirage. Step up the pace Zadornov, you're supposed to be rushin'.
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>>2996554
Nah they just want to Party with everyone on the resort the faster the war ends the quicker they can come and visit our crib.
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>>2996562
>As if I'd miss the biggest party of our generation because of some slippery Union backstabber!
>Now set a course for Desmond, and bring my finest cigars and whiskey to the bridge
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>>2996561
Magnus himself admitted Killinger is his better.
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>>2996568
Yeah but Killinger made the mistake of pissing of a super power space fairing race.
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>>2996573
Which he didn't realize was a thing.
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>>2996551
Canderon warheads, huh? Who else besides humans have Canderon warhead technology? Now I'm curious as to who or what exactly dropped them. Quickly, report this to Theseus, and ask him what's his opinion.
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>>2996551
"Speaker is speaking! Does anyone hear this speaker! Speak now!"

"Hold your thorax, damnit, there must have been an EM pulse." You hear in response. Guilliam lights a flashlight illuminating your drone's face as you hear Palmer let out a short squeal, and you hear a thud as he falls to the floor.

"Alright, who's not dead?" You hear Norris ask. There are a number of groans throughout the room as several emergency lights flicker on near the floor. You see Palmer on the ground as several lab techs search for their data pads and various troopers click on their flashlights.

"The whole arcology sealed." Guilliam says. "What hit us, the rival hive again?"

"Nope." Norris says as several panels come back online. "System says there was a missile launch. Local drydocks just got hit with a planet buster. Most of the net is down, can't tell if any others got through the PD net." He looks over to Palmer with sudden concern. "We don't have anything that needs active containing do we? We won't be getting full power back for a while."

"No. We've finished burning all of it." Palmer says with a clear sadness. "At this point we were just figuring out how to best find this so-called infestation. You knew that. Wait, I told you that just the other day!"

"I'm still not putting it past you eggheads to do something stupid with the stuff. I have to be sure." Norris barks back, as if it was himself that was just insulted. "Now we should get outside. Blast doors will have a manual crank. I'm bettin' our guest is gonna want to be leaving soon before the looting starts."

"This speaker is here to help the Union thinkers remove the infestation. It will remain as long as it is welcome." Your speaker chirps.

"Yea that's probably gonna be until peoples' fridges start to stink. At that point none of us will be welcome." Norris turns back to the console, quickly looking through several menus. "Damn. This is gonna get bad fast. I just hope that infestation of yours is concentrated in the blast radius."

"It was likely not." Your speaker chirps.

"Then we're gonna have a major problem."

>Offer to send humanitarian aid
>Offer to send drones to purge the Obsidian Hive creep
>Maintain an advisory role, but do not offer additional help
>Other (write in)
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>>2996576
It was the Commonwealth Indonesian. Or just Killinger advancing the time table on his plan.
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>>2996580
>>Offer to send humanitarian aid
>>Offer to send drones to purge the Obsidian Hive creep

We could use the former as cover story for the latter?

Building power lines and shit.

Killinger handed us an opportunity, but we just gotta get them to accept.
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>>2996580
>Maintain an advisory role, but do not offer additional help
Let's see what happens next, aunty may back off if it seems the humans are just killing each other and she doesn't see us interfering
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>>2996580
>Offer to send humanitarian aid

Don't send more help unless shit gets *really* bad.
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>>2996580
>>Offer to send humanitarian aid
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>>2996588
If we purge the OQ spores ourselves instead of letting them do it all then the humans have lowered chances of discovering the Path stealth hive.
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>>2996580
>Maintain an advisory role, but do not offer additional help

>(Other) Contact the Commonwealth and ask then if having the Hive provide humanitarian support to the Union citizens in Path would be us interfering with their war.

I would like to help but we should ask Magnus first. Sending drones will just be spinned as the Hive invanding, humanitarian aid may trigger our allies in the Commonwealth, but give us good PR with the Union. I would rather just keep the speaker here and use our hive to produce human clones now that a good portion of the planet was nuked.
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>>2996580
>>Maintain an advisory role, but do not offer additional help
Honestly from what we’ve seen the whole Union really doesn’t need our help on this. I say Let them do their jobs.
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>>2996580
>Offer to send humanitarian aid
>Offer to send drones to purge the Obsidian Hive creep
Both of these. That creep would flourish in this chaos

And a perfect chance to get a hive planetside
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>>2996593
It's obviously not. Humanitarian aid only assists civilian population quality of life.
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>>2996588
>>2996591
>>2996585
Humanitarian aid can be see as us helping the Union to our allies. Why don't we ask first and then anwser it but first we just keep the advise role?
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>>2996597
Even if humanitarian aid somehow mattered to them, and it probably won't, it doesn't matter what they think of it. They need us and they're screwed without us so they could deal with it.

Like they're dealing with it that we demanded the Mirage wreckage.

What are they gonna do, let the Scavs consume their planets?
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>>2996596
Still i would rather not risk it. But a hive creep sprouting after a commonwealth attack will not look good.
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>>2996580
>Offer to send humanitarian aid
>Offer to send drones to purge the Obsidian Hive creep
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>>2996580
>Offer to send humanitarian aid

As your drone continues to help the researchers develop a plan to contain the infestation, you send in a request for approval of a humanitarian effort.

And I just noticed it is 7 in the morning, I should be heading to bed. We will probably be able to resume this thread on Thursday, and I'll try and stick around for a bit for any end of thread comments, questions, and the like.
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>>2996600
Point taken dennying the Obisidian Hive any human tech or hold in any planet takes priority.

If the Commonwealth ask we can just drop the fact that a enemy Hive is spreading infrastructure on Path.
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>>2996604
Thanks for Running QD!

Can't wait to catch next week's thread.
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>>2996604
thanks for running!
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>>2996604
Thanks for running
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>>2996604
Since you're allegedly planning on dumping scouting pods slowly a few systems at a time, shouldn't you just do them at the start of the thread so you can't run out of time?
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Is there any particular reason we haven't designed a type of Corvettes/Cruisers/Battleships that are essentially just GIGANTIC brains in space, to use our psychic tachyon powers in interstellar combat?

I mean... I for one would love to flex the Red Queen's psychic muscle and crush cruisers without even shooting anything at them, ignoring whatever defenses they have.
Or to cause their systems to overheat, cooking the crew within.
Or tearing a corvette in half. Or whatever else we can think of.
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>>2996580
>>Offer to send drones to purge the Obsidian Hive creep
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>>2996612
I had planned on that initially being in the mid-week. That and the proper scouting of that planet in your system, since that's slightly less imminent panic happening.

In the meantime though, I'm working on finishing reorganizing the ships to use the roles properly. I wasn't able to get that properly sorted enough in time due to the events this past weekend, but still, if you have any additional roles you want to add in, or slot existing or new ship or drone designs into their roles, feel free to discuss that. I should be around tomorrow for a bit before work to catch up on any discussions.
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>>2996618
Neat.

Would it be difficult or possibly-beneficial to Smash and Grab and obtain a nerve stapler to determine the extent and limitations of human and Valen technology?
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>>2996622
Not really, they are relatively common, if expensive and regulated, pieces of medical equipment. They require extensive and difficult to obtain licenses and degrees from a limited number of accredited universities to legally use such a device on a person for medical purposes, and the Union has outlawed their involuntary use entirely, and there are laws preventing criminal prosecution from attempting to force the accused into a position where refusing its use could be seen as potentially an act of guilt, although accused are permitted to request to voluntarily undergo such a procedure to help bolster their legal defence, this is somewhat uncommon. In general, they have a heavy stigma, one which was somewhat well earned in early models, but current versions are safe, effective, and are used in the curing or treatment of a wide range of mental and neurological disorders.

The valen are the inventors of the device, having created the nerve-machine interface to better control their glaves, they have since been exported to all corners of civilized space as either medical devices or instruments of information extraction or even torture. As such most people will not willingly divulge the fact that they were ever treated with nerve stapling, as it carries a social stigma about it.

To steal one would be a somewhat simple matter of raiding a local mental health clinic.

The other anon also was correct in stating that it would be possible to locate and implant the local probe operator tasked at the medical facility the crew is heading for. This may be a bit more difficult, however, since you don't know which trained operator will be assigned to Devon's interrogation, so you would need to abduct several people to adopt the entire shift's worth of probe technicians.
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>>2996628
Yeah, we could try a two-pronged approach. We've never initiated any Actions before now.

Stealing is simpler at least.

Actually, we traded parasites to the Taidarens for abunch of stuff. Has that pile of stuff become a few Credit Caches and some equipment resources?
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If I see that the Russians are amassing their planes for an attack, I'm going to knock the shit out of them before they take off the ground.
Curtis LeMay
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>>2996379
We always had good reason to suspect this would happen. That they would lie to us.

It's simple. To seal the deal, demand Windsor for a face to face meeting with the speaker to answer a few questions to confirm the completeness of the inventory, or the hive ship comes back to Gemini. Refusal to meet will be taken as admission of dishonesty.

We could put a deadline on it that is just as the concert ends instead of right now, if we don't want to put a cramp on anyone's style.
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>>2996604
>We will probably be able to resume this thread on Thursday
Amazing QD, you are an absolute madman when it comes to these long threads. Thank you, and take care of youself.
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>>2996604
Hopefully not in -this--thread. My browser starts to shit the bed after ~800 posts.
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>>2996613
Probably requires more research into psionics. Right now I don’t think our advanced relays are more capable than our moderate relays when it comes to most psychic fuckery, so building a brain ship probably wouldn’t accomplish more than we already have until we unlock more tech.
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>>2996750
Fair enough.
But, once we do get to that point... ooh would it feel good to have a number of brain-ships flying in our fleets.
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>>2996604
I think you miscounted the votes there.
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>>2996750
Well if we get the pyrokenisis tech, build a battleship brain ship, we can probably use advanced relay like structures to make a psychic "super weapon". Or at least a very big destructive trump card.

Only problem is that it would be super prone to void corruption if we do not take countermeasures.
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>>2996761
I probably missed the cutoff due to sleep, but I would vote:
Yes, supporting
>Offer to send humanitarian aid
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Man the only thing i can think that would help protect Devon would be to Parasite the doctor doing the surgery/health check on him. Fortunantly the trooper and the girl still had parasites on them. I think...
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>>2996580
>"Speaker is speaking! Does anyone hear this speaker! Speak now!"
hhhehhehe
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>>2996766
Highly corruptible, yes.
Capable of straight up ignoring enemy shields and defenses? Possibly.
Worth it? Honestly, maybe, against anyone not Ceph or Void.
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>>2996641
Yes, actually, they gave you a literal pile of equipment and credits. I'll have that translated into proper caches for next thread.

>>2996713
Actually I work nights now, so on days I run I just wake up a few hours before the thread, and then run until my normal normal bedtime for a work day.

>>2996729
What browser are you using?
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One thing these new gravity super weapons do, which we haven’t talked about yet, is they make the risk of our invading the Union much higher. If we launch a military incursion into Union space, the Union may respond by launching some or all of their arsenal at the Hive cluster on Leeland. Depending on how close the Queen’s bunker is to the site of the original Hive, we could be at serious risk of death. Even though the bunker is incredibly deep and we have shields, constant picket ships, and in depth flack, fighter, and anti-orbit screens, a handful of these weapons getting past the defenses could pose a substantial physical risk to the Queen’s safety.
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>>2997354
Thanks QD, glad the schedule works well for you. The last few threads have been great. It’s good to be back.
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>>2995183
>Adam Seiner
>Specializations: Xenobiology, xenopsychology, Void Crafting

Idea: if Adam returns from his vision quest at all in time, he might be able to offer some assistance as to how to get parasite-implanted subjects to pass a neurological test.
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>>2997370
I always wondered what it would be like to have a throne room deep within a planets mantle.
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Should we have a Decoy Queen on Builder's Gift like the kind we have on Raligha?
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>>2997854
No need to. Besides it's a bed idea having a egglayer who looks like the queen in such a public place.
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>>2997865
Oh, not an egglayer, just a mobile one like she was as a hatchling
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>>2997875
Honestly i don't see the need for it. The speakers are the diplomats unless you want to use it to distract the union and have people target the city. Because if word of the queen bei g the city gets out, and the fact it's a public place it will eventualy happen, the Ceph will start to attack the Resort that is not even a battle station and as the name said a city focused for entertaiment.
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Thinking about it, we should probably turn our asteroid base that's empty into a space city. It could have a Rip Drive Drill if people want, it may be nice to have one like it in our home station. What the station's actually for is anyone's idea though, maybe some nutrient generation and military use?
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>>2998143
I'd vote for a Star Hive to further bolster defenses at home
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>>2998182
I'd support that too.
We should also consider keeping a permanent small fleet at all our holdings instead of only having a permanent fleet at Leeland. With all the heavy-firepower being thrown around even with our instant travel abilities it is too dangerous to leave our planets mostly unprotected.
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>>2998143
>>2998182


Seems like a solid idea.
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>>2998143
>>2998182
Yes.
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>>2998182
>>2998240
With the Star Hive combined with a Rip Drive Drill we can basically send strike craft out to help our fleets anywhere within 20 LY, it seems like a stellar combo. As for the other modules I'm not sure.
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>>2998223
That is the reason why i wanted to expand the fleet. But with us hwlping the Commonwealth with the scavs and doing the gunboat diplomacy our current fleet holds are way to close of effecting our income nutrients.

The reason to take the expanse and spread now will boost our nutrient income so we can have more weight to throw around and maybe we can leave some cloaked fleets as defense. Honestly, any place with to many Hive ships will become a Juicy target for worst aunt so we may need to focus on how we place our forces.
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>>2996255
It is strange that Jack settled on that particular interpretation of events.
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>>2998659
You thinking some crystal corruption helping him along? We should keep in mind that everyone in that room is hypercompetent by human standards in their respective fields so maybe they did just get really lucky.
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>>2998659

>>2998665
His agency was the one that handled the crystals. So some might have gotten corrupted do to long exposure. Would also explain why they are still trying to hold the Void Shards. Unless they managed to reverse engennier that void cutter weapon and plug it into a ship, making it a good weapon.

If the Void shards weren't so dangerous i would discuss the fact of us revealling our deep spy network. So far Jack seems to thing the Hive is trying to pull a fast in the Union but isn't commiting to the attack not because we don't want to genocide then but because we are at war with Obisidian Queen.

A fair point his momentary shake of confusion as he looked down on the papers may make it look like he was being temporarily controlled or he was just spilling out due to stress. The fact that his though pointed to put Morgan into a mind relay just to male sure seems to make him like a really paranoid man, but that could be mostly because he deals with spionage for a living and not because of Void fuckery.
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>>2998659
It is strange. He was mostly extremely accurate, but he didn’t realize that the hive actually really likes humans and thinks they are valuable. It is also curious that he thinks ANDERSON, of all people, was the vector for the infection, especially since Anderson was a former Valen agent and the Valen are terrified of the Hive, while Devon was actually captured by presumed Hive agents twice both times he managed to conveniently “escape.”
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>>2998773
Wow you missed a lot information.
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>>2998773
I honestly find more strange how this end up making Jack have a excuse to have a nerve stampler on Morgan. Mostly just so he could figure out what Morgan is talking with the Hive just moments whe Morgan gave the Hive some critical intel.

Hopefully revealing our hand will take some of the heat from Morgan and not make Jack even more suspicious.
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>>2998813
Good point, he could be using this as a strategy to get Morgan under his thumb too or figure out what info he may have leaked to the Hive. As it stands, Morgan appears to be our only “ally” (or at least not active enemy) in the Union high command, so he is worth protecting.
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>>2998823
And, on the other hand, this could also not be the first time that there was a fear that a member of their council had been brainwashed.
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>>2998850
>>2998823
We can't forget that this move with the artifacts is just a attemp to confirm how deep our intel goes. True we can keep on the low and look for the Void Shards by ourselfs and so the Union won't have any reason to do extra security on their labs (Such as dna scans and forced uses of a stampler to check for the Hive doing mind fuckery with someone.) Not to mention this could lead to the discovery of our parasites anyway we need to do some imprinting on the crew and remove the parasite so the doctors don't find it.

Or maybe we get lucky a d the doctor that is called to do the surgery is from the Union apartment we took over. I think that was the one were Gilliam sleeped?
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If we ever end up actually making some of those those elite chimera units that got statted up before the hiatus, we should field test one against Lyle in his drop suit to figure out how good they are. Live fire, of course.
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>>2999038
Indeed. I suspect the Elite Chinera we built would win with psionics, but without that my guess is it’s a toss up.
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>>2999038
Oh, also, we already made the Myrmidons (the elite chimera) since they were voted on and approved and we stopped tracking individual drones a while ago. I think we’re just waiting for a situation to deploy them.
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>>2999038
I greatly enjoy this idea. Should also try squad Chimera tactics.
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>>2999038
Our best son Lyle would love to train (or train with) our Myrmidons, and find their strengths and weaknesses, for mother, of course.
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>>2999088
Well there is a rising lord and a couple groups in our space that might need the visit of a Chimera. Honestly a Chimera attacking any place in the Expanse would look like a predator movie. But with less gore and body being hanged upside down and skinned and more people getting adopted.
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I feel like Jack's approach here is more important than what he says he knows, he could just be teasing info out of potentially comprised agents ala typical WWII spy tactics by putting up a "face" of information they know, testing to see if there's a reticent reaction and if there isn't, where exactly the compromised agent's line of thinking goes. It's almost nearly a by-the-book example. If he believes someone within is compromised, it's a structural test, and the procedure is to stimulate a reaction. He hasn't said anything here that we could actually use against them, which means his paranoia is working as intended. Assuming everyone gets mind probed, off or odd events around those procedures would reveal the culprits.

Which means succeeding in getting Devon cleared doesn't mean he's cleared, there could be another form of test on-site or just after that Jack isn't going to tell people about. The test you expect, and the test you don't that was actually made to catch you, specifically you, in the act. But that's a later bridge.

Currently, we can assume they don't have any direct defenses against what Jack thinks we might be doing with mental influence, which means he's going to eventually (or soon) attempt agent-level countermeasures beyond the pitiful "walk in groups" he proposed earlier. Specific cybernetics, secondary tracking, or a brain activity blackbox and such aren't things people in their situation would say no to, so if we do choose to keep Devon, we'll need to prepare for Jack's countermeasures by
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>>2999103
It would make a far better movie too. Imagine, nobody dies, and everybody becomes friends!
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>>2999154
"Friends."
You mean family.
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>>2999157
Yes, yes I do.
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>>2999129
I still think that revealling our spy capabilities is a bad idea even more now. At least in the long run and if we don't plan to fully commit in glassi g all the Union worlds.

Because the unrest caused by the nuclear attack will have Jack's man scrapping the entire city looking for a escape goat. Manly Commonwealth spies.

So revealling that we know more might make his agents start to do a heavier surveillance in gemini and in this thread we got the new spyonage system.

>This planet holds an embassy, random chance to gain intelligence each day, +1 Active Operation available. This planet's population is highly irritable and aggressive to Hive influence. All failure and detection chances are increased. Increased rate of psionic resistance in the local populace. Any attempt to increase unrest will receive a bonus to success chance and increased detection rate.

>Any attempt to increase unrest will receive a bonus to success chance and increased detection rate.
>increased detection rate.

So if we want to reveal our spy network to force then to give us the void shards and implying they won't try to pull a fast one on us. We might need to destroy our hidden hive.
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>>2995780
>"You think we have a mole?" Jack asks.
>"I know we do. I'm more worried about who it is. If you're not convinced we have a current and active intelligence breach I'm going to press for a no confidence vote."

t. The Mole
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>>2999160
>>2999154
>>2999157

"Welcome to the Family, son.
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>>2999175
Yeah Morgan is pretty cheeky he should be adopted.

We also need to compromise the medics checking him in the nerve stampler or have some anti-xeno mob attack his place and have him "killed"
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>>2999179
uncomfortably accurate
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>>2999179
kek
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>>2999175
>If you're not convinced we have a current and active intelligence breach

If they're so concerned about that, imagine what they would do if they felt the notice of a distant mind.

Void fuckery is basically a magic scrying crystal ball, so honestly every single moment and location should be treated as an active intelligence breach. I wonder if there's a way to drop this knowledge somehow, especially since the human government seems to want to withhold the shards. The Void Shards are a perpetual tracking beacon, intel leak, and mind-control device. We should be more upfront with the Union about these things.
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>>2999171
I have an idea. They already know Lyle was our agent and they almost certainly didn’t give us all he artifacts from the lab Lyle wrecked a while ago. We could demand those artifacts specifically without revealing our intelligence source as being beyond what they are already aware we have.

>>2999227
We could be more upfront with them, but at a certain point paranoia and constant thinking about he Void will expose them to danger. However, I agree we can reveal more of the risk. Potentially, we could even reveal (or hint at) the meddling of the White queen and our personal valuation of the humans.

Also, we should try to use Seiner to spy on Killinger, Jack, etc. since he functions as a magic scrying ball for us too.
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>>2999227
If you ever hint to them about scrying, then they will take measures to minimize the viability of our future potential clone army of Seiners gazing into their secret facilities.

Anyway, as explicitly warned by Lee already, if we find they still have dangerous artifacts, we can just rush in and take them before they 'breach containment.'

And we can find them using Void Projection once that's unlocked.
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>>2999260
We can't if they are using psionic insulation to contain it.
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Was there a transparent PNG of the Queen's face for use in image edits somewhere.
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>>2999267
Even if that 3-dimensional material really can't be bypassed by just taking a detour through the 4th dimension, we could still search for that psionic-insulation material they use and find that instead.

Then observe past events and thoughts to confirm what's behind the curtain.
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>>2999274
WE CAN'T. If that were the case the psionic computer would have been easily found by the enemy.
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>Anyway, as explicitly warned by Lee already, if we find they still have dangerous artifacts, we can just rush in and take them before they 'breach containment.'

Well...we DO have the last locations of were the void shards were sent. And i would nothing more then take a look in that captured void cutter weapon that the Union has in a lab, if they managed to use tha shard to create a stealth ship they certanly are using those to power the giant weapon that ignores armour.

>Potentially, we could even reveal (or hint at) the meddling of the White queen and our personal valuation of the humans.

I have the perfect phrase for that moment. We have Morgan and Jack at the same room in holograsm discussing the fact they tried to one up us and have our speaker say: "The legancy of the White Hive is proving more dificcult to be preserved then expected. The Red Hive wonders if this is how it's to have a cat."

Or just don't mention the cat part.
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>>2999316
A better way to drop the whole 'the Hive made humanity' bomb on them would be something like "Humanity was made for a reason. The Red Queen honors her fallen mother enough to respect that."
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>>2999324
Eh, humanity already builded the psy canon so their main goal was already completed and now they are lefed to do whatever they want.

Although Seiner seemed to think he should complete his main function but we can't expect every human to react the same way.

Still think that comparing humanity with a wild dog will elevate the fact that Jack things we think of humanity as bugs in our summer house. They are more like the family abandoned dog that was finnaly found. At least that is my opinion.
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How about "certain traits were induced within Humanity which make you far less susceptible to influence from the Void Shards, but this protection is not absolute and can be circumvented, especially due to prolonged exposure."
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>>2999343
Further: "as you do not understand the mechanism of their function, you do not have the capability to quarantine or destroy them. The hive does."
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>>2999343
Hmm don't know about that might make they think we screwed up their genes (which i know mom actually did) and forced then to be what it is.

We already dropped the fact that the Hives and The Cluster would inseminate worlds and create life as they saw fit. Dropping the fact that Humanity is a legancy of one of the Hives would be enough revelation to these people.
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>>2999350
We said that already and still they want to try and keep the shards. I think they want to try and use the Void Cutter weapon we saw in the lab during their war.

Which might mean we may already have a breach.
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>>2999352
Just being "legacy" is extremely vague and unhelpful and could give them the wrong impression. Humanity was created to be psi-resistant. Not as a replacement for the Hive, not as the new dominant life form, not as pets or servants. Just psi-resistance.
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>>2999341
Well, it's more that Humanity is more of a surrogate child that the Hive made specifically to be either incorruptible or much more difficult for the Void to affect, so that they might be used against it.

So, Humanity is less a wild dog in the back yard, and more a little kid running around while Mama Red Queen is all dressed up in 1950s housewife clothes and baking a nice pie, waiting for the unruly child to calm down and behave, so that they might enjoy dinner together. One without the ever-looming threat of the Void.
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>>2999369
Then we use something else i was using Legancy more in the sense of something(money or propety) that is lefed to someone in a will.

Not a replacement to the Hives or a slabe race or whatever. Some people also might not like us refering to then as living weapons. If they ask what we mena by legancy we just drop that the White Hive wanted to create a race immune to psionics and that is what humans are.

But then we would have to drop in the subject to psionics. We could just say that instead of resistant to psionic we can tell that they were made resistant to the ancient enemy influence.
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>>2999377
That is a more pleasing picture actually
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>>2999388
And on the flip side, there are people (such as best son Lyle) who would be absolutely ecstatic to learn that they were made specifically to be living weapons against an enemy that the unbelievably advanced precursor race COULDN'T fight on their own.

In fact, we should look into getting Lyle and pals recruiting more mercs like them, that would love to get upgraded into more and more dangerous living weapons.
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We should do a recruitment drive for more best children, promising advanced weapons, armor, bio-augments and more, to give our best son Lyle more siblings like him.
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>>2999396
>>2999404
Can't we just copy Lyle and Jackob's skill set and put in inf fresh clones? No need to recruit people and we don't run the risk of being betrayed or infiltrated.

We still have our 4 Brawlers the 2 Techs and the 1 Sharpshooter that escaped Path with Kent. At least i hope they escaped.
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>>2999425
QD has explicitly said that doesn't work.
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>>2999425
Well, we can't really create EVERY possible useful skillset for our future clone army that would be good for us against the Void, but if we recruit more mercs, and get them spinebuddies™, we could get THEIR skillsets and start mass-producing all kinds of soldiers, infiltrators, hackers, master snipers, pilots, etc., with the sheer variety that Humanity's individualism allows for.

They're simply better than us at creating variety. One of the reasons we need them.Not even our bank of dedicated Thinkers can get their toes where humanity has their heels in creativity and variety.
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>>2999427
>>2999436
Fair enough.
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>>2999447
Well, it's kinda like the difference between creating an army of Lyle's (totally not australian Jango Fett) and creating an army of all kinds of trained dudes with applicable training to fight the Void in a variety of ways.

Lyle as the base template might create a "stronger" army, but it'd be easier for the Void to adapt to.
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>>2999425
You know, those agents will be out of our detection range if they just do a short jump to the middle of empty space. While they can probably take out Kent and his cronies, that’s a lot of good tech and parasites without any supervision or backup...

Our clones have self-preservation instinct and lack psionics, so they might not be willing or able able to trigger the parasite’s self-destruct if they were about to be captured and had no connection with the Hive at the time.
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>>2999453
Nah. Clone Lyles aren't guaranteed to bad as good as Lyle.
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>>2999491
So, question:

If Lyle does and we upload his consciousness (or memories, etc.) into a clone, would that clone lose any combat effectiveness?
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>>2999476
i doubt that QD would just simply eliminate our clones like that. Besides they were having a malfuctioning ship so if they end in the emptyness of space the clones and Kent can be considered dead.

Hopefully they will jump into a Theseus system and get a good scare from old Theseus. Kent need to move and create his faction on the expanse anyway and what better place to build a base to topple a corrupt Union then in a liberan area controlled by a somewhat powerfull alien power.
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>>2999500
I'm assuming that quantum bullshit might be involved.
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>>2999500
That's why we should research this:

>Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.


We can basicaly ressurect Lyle completely. But Lyle was a hard man to kill before and now he has the support of a entire alien Empire so i doubt that anything smaller then a moon dropping on his head while he is on a planet surface would kill him.
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>>2999396
>In fact, we should look into getting Lyle and pals recruiting more mercs like them, that would love to get upgraded into more and more dangerous living weapons.
Yes, this is a thing we should immediately start on.
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>>2999514
Well i take there will be a lot of people moving into Hive space after the concert and after we are done with our humanitarian aid on Path.
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>>2999514
If we get some kind of a become a supreme warrior cult going we could likely recruit from the CW as well. They’d likely pitch a fit, but they couldn’t actually do anything considering how desperately they need our support.

Also, as nice as good humans are most wont get to Lyle tier so we should still keep producing chimeras regardless.

>>2999519
Indeed, it is a funny irony some humans will be coming to Hive space to AVOID war.
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>>2997354
Your scout ships possessing gravity sensors have deployed around the outer regions of deep space between Hydra and your space, a rough estimation of the direction the ship was headed when it entered the largely uncontrolled warp bubble. If the freighter survived, you should find it eventually.

Elsewhere, you receive an alert from Builder's Gift as it receives its first guests. While the optics of visiting a resort during wartime would be bad for any leader, some are of a status low enough to not have their lives followed to such a degree, or have titles that permit more unorthodox destinations for the purposes of political and economic negotiations. Several such nobiles have arrived, claiming to be visiting to discuss possible trade relations between the holdings of their higher ranking lieges, although they don't seem to be in any hurry to do so, instead spending most of the day enjoying various local attractions and luxury services. At dinner, as they enjoy steaks which were at no point ever an animal, but in fact cut from a nearby wall, that they actually decide to talk on business, but even that is half-heated in nature. As you gleam information from their minds, you come to realize these are the more unruly of their houses, and in dire times are often given titles that will keep them far away from the public or the front lines, where they will inevitably cause a disaster.

The trade negotiations are given to you separately in a stack of data pads for later examination, including an invitation for a hive ambassador to the planet of Fairweather of the Aurora system, while your nobility, who you come to realize you are more or less babysitting, begin talking rather drunkenly of the magnificent beasts within the local zoo. It is not long until they begin questioning alternate forms of tourism through the reservation ward and begin asking for you name a price. The local thinkers do not have the capacity to respond to such a request on their own.

>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)
>Refuse the request (income will remain as is)
>Other
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>>2999550
>Allow hunting tourism within the ward
We can clone things for them to hunt I suppose. Of course no killing our children.
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>>2999550
Can we get them to pay to be hunted instead? We have medical facilities after all.

If not,
>Allow hunting tourism within the ward
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>>2999550
>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)

>death world intensifies
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>>2999550
>alternate forms of tourism through the reservation ward

>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)
humans are weird. oh well. free money i guess.
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>>2999550
we live!

>Allow hunting tourism within the ward.

>>2999565
hah, they should have seen Leeland before we encased it in a global hive.
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>>2999567
Don't you try to tell us you wouldn't love going on an alien safari.
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>>2999550
>At dinner, as they enjoy steaks which were at no point ever an animal, but in fact cut from a nearby wall
That's actually hilarious.
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>>2999550
>the planet of Fairweather of the Aurora system,

There is no "Aurora system." Aurora is the imperial planet in the Aquarius system. Did you mean the Aquarius system?
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>>2999550
WE LIVE

also what's the ethics of cloning sentient creatures but putting animal brains in... so they can hunt "sentients" for sport.


I think its unethical... But at this point we've long perverted biological ethics
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>>2999567
>>alternate forms of tourism

Well none of them want to fuck something yet at least. They're not that aristocratically decadent yet.
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>>2999582
Local hicks do hick things more news at 9
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Maybe we should recognize "human mother" as a potential government employed job now that I think about it.
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>>2999589
More that we've just not started producing anthropomorphic sex bugs
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>>2999550
>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)
No downsides AND a high likelihood of getting to parasite stupid nobles. In fact, if there is a target we particularly want to infect, we could easily rig the hunt so that the beast “somehow” manages to injure the noble to the extent they require a dip in a pod. What’s not to love?
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>>2999594
Alongside "Human thinker" and "human speaker"
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>>2999550
>>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)
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>>2999595
Why not just mess with human genetics, call the result an alien and call it a day?
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>>2999550
>>2999597
>No downsides

This may not be the best PR with the one faction that actually likes the hive, the xeno loving empathetic animal rights crowd.

None of the species are endangered populations but probably could provoke animal cruelty accusations.
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>>2999595
... what... what WOULD hive prostitute bugs even look like?

Speakers with holes? A new bug that can morph between different approximations of the species it'd interact with?

Why is any brain time going to this.
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>>2999603
Shapeshifter bug with "chest glands" and a warm hole?
And maybe with at least some knowledge of proper dirty talk?
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>>2999602
WHAT IF WE MADE CUSTOM BODIES THAT LET US CHANGE OUT THE "BRAINS"

Like with our spine buddies. Let something like that pilot "animals" being hunted for sport. If the "animal" dies, the pilot just gets put in a new one.

No animal cruelty issues there if a living sentient isn't in danger/trouble.
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>>2999604
>speaker-tier dirty talk/pillow talk
oh no
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>>2999550
>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)
Would be kinda funny if we upgraded the animals first with bio-augmentations... No, no, that's probably a bad idea...
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>>2999606
OH YES.
>"This one is made for inter-species copulation. Why have you not initiated copulation?"
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>>2999602
>animal cruelty accusations
Maybe if they were wild beasts. But they are not wild beasts, they are cloned and kept in a zoo. In a space city. In orbit around a gas giant.

Besides, if it's a HUNT, then it's not just shooting defenseless animals. Part of the fun of hunting is stalking the beasts and taking it out before it kills you.

>>2999612
pic related
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>>2999608
That's a great idea.
Then rent advanced firearms that can hunt the upgraded animals. This way, they don't get to bring their own guns and we make even more money.
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>>2999595
Being humanish would defeat the point. There are people that want to get fucked by horses, somebody in the galaxy is gonna start looking at the herd beetles or the lithovores' tentacles oddly at some point.

We really should have lithovores from Nowhere in a dark room here at the zoo getting vivisection/dissection research done automatically
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>>2999550
>Allow hunting tourism within the ward (will increase income from high class visitors)

BITCH PLEASE! We brought a e tire race back from the dead in less then two weeks we can have as much hunting as we want! And it is also a way to convert nutrients into credits.
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>>2999620
would we let them try hive weapons?
Maybe get some arms sales out of it?
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>>2999573
Wasn't there a marine with Lee when the Union tried to infiltrate a Smith into the hive that liked to hunt?

Wonder if we can make him defect.
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>>2999629
We could use it as an opportunity to get knowledge of Hive weapons out there, as well as advertising it for weapon sales, through alien safari.
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>>2999614
Yeah but it is as it was said by Morgan. We shouldn't underestimate what the Union media will spin once they find out about this stuff.
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>>2999629
Renting is better, but it could be a great advertisement platform. Though I wonder what price scaling we'd equate our stuff to. I don't recall any given hard numbers for other arms manufacturers, other than that smuggling thing but that's a separate thing.
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>>2999614
Nobody can tell that they're clones, we should hardly advertise our rapid cloning technology too openly before they start wondering about human cloning. And if they did know they wouldn't believe that clones feel any less pain and panic than natural born specimens, since they don't.
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>>2999618
Heck i bet there is already someone in the Union wanting to date/fuck a Speaker.
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>>2999644
if we start making sex bugs like your pic related, yes, definitely.
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>>2999644
>>2999645
Please don't do this to our children.
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>>2999641
Eh genetic enhancement is a thing we do nowadays. Not straight up clonning but having reserves and hunting seasons are something we can make.

It also allows to have different types of aliens each season.
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>>2999648
Eh i don't want to have our drones fucking humans. Let's just do some hunting
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>Allow hunting tourism within the ward

You agree to their slurred requests, and your speakers begin negotiating price points and explaining the dangers, and the potency of hive medical technology, as well as lifting the wording of various contracts to make sure they understand such a thing is dangerous, even with your medical prowess. The warnings seem to delight their wanderlust desire for needles adventure, and your workers begin assembling a small, unusually comfortable barracks for your new would-be hunters.

As they celebrate with yet more of your overpriced wine, you look back to the invitation to Aquarius, and examine the system with your pod.

The system is the seat of power for both the Reuenthal dynasty and the central authority of the local religion, which seem to feed off one another, reinforcing their legitimacy in a rather interestingly assembled exchange of power.

The star itself is a rather odd assembly, with a red giant at its center, and a binary red dwarf system orbiting several light hours distant. The planetary orbits are made rather oblong as a result, with one of the inner planets orbiting between the stars. That planet is Aurora, and you realize now how it got that name, as during this orbital transition the radiation of the stars create a vivid display of lights through the planet's thick atmosphere. The planet itself is hot, with steaming jungles near its equator and humid grasslands and deserts across most of the rest of the surface. To protect from the star's radiation, which is still potent enough to seek to avoid by humans, and the extreme heat, which is tolerable to most, but still unhealthy for physical exertion, most of the cities are built carved into the sides of mountains or ravines, or large, dugout pits with tarps or domes held over top. The capital, the large city of Ager Vaticanus is built under layers of overlapping domes and its carefully crafted skyline is built with integrated radiation shielding lining its thick, ivory white walls. Golden and marble statues decorate much of the city skyline, directing the eye to the space elevator reaching to the sky connecting to the orbiting space city of St. Petersburg, a bustling trade port of unusually ornate design, its decorative and largely non-functional stained glass windows don't seem to offer any kind of view, but can be seen on the outer wards from many kilometers away, with large, golden statues of various saints and religious figures mounted along the outer hull, positioned so as to watch the incoming traffic as they pass under them.

cont.

>>2999582
goddamnit my brain.

Sorry, I almost overslept after getting home from work this morning. Got up with less than an hour to spare and am still a little groggy.
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>>2999672
It... it can't be...

Why can't I hold all these pods.
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>>2999672
eyy. Who's space pope?
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So want to talk policy?
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>>2999690
Domestic, foreign, or esoteric?
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>>2999697
Domestic. We need to plan out how to make our territory more attractive to more than just xenophiles.
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>>2999682
He was mentioned a couple threads when we started to go hunting scavs eith our commonwealth buddies.

>Your speaker is unimpressed as you watch the presession on the holoscreen with Admiral Yogesh. A ticker beneath slowly scrawls across the screen with the local news of Aurora, all sounding more important than the parade, as in large letters emblazoned over the screen reads the headline "Pope Donovan Aquinas VI announces Crusade. Crown Prince Augustus Reuenthal embarks to war with alien menace."

From thread 60
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>>2999701
A relatively hands of policy. Just treat them like tenants in an apartment. They follow the rules, dont ring in any of the few illegal substances, occasional(I mean constant) inspections, and pay their agreed upon rent. The autonomy itself will get the capitalists salivating.
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>>2999701
For what purpose?
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>>2999705
We need to buddy up with Space Pope Donovan and recruit some crusaders for our war against Space Satan.
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>>2999672
Beyond the orbit of the binary dwarfs, you see the gas giant of Megas, a softly banded planet dotted with an abnormal number of semi-permanent storm spots that prevent most forms of permanent gas harvesting. Despite this, the planet is populated with migrant caravans of roving airships and floating settlements drifting along the upper atmosphere, using their mobility to evade the storms while harvesting gas as fuel for passing ships.

In Megas's orbit are three planetary moons, each a sizable planet in its own right. The closest to the giant is Erytho, a harsh, ash choked penal colony wracked with volcanism. Its population is held underground, where mining facilities and military bunkers dot the surface with ventilation ducts and shuttle bays. The population itself mostly consists of military personnel and prisoners, and the two intersect greatly, with the majority of military trainees serving in penal battalions for deployment in times of war, while the remaining prisoner population operate the various mining facilities. The planet also serves as a testing ground for new combat equipment running endurance tests in the harsh environment, and is popular among drop trooper divisions for testing their new recruits.

The next further out planet is that of Eos, a frozen world with very little atmosphere, causing it to be covered in a thick layer of ice. The geological activity spurred on by the gas giant's proximity causes enough heat to be present beneath the surface to allow for a liquid ocean to exist at a deeper depth. On the surface the primary economy consists of ice mining to supply local traffic with water, while deep beneath the surface secret military research facilities exist in unknown number and locations. Their presence is poorly known, marked in some cases with only a small umbilical line connecting to the surface of the ice, but in others they are totally isolated deep beneath the layer of ice for additional security, accessible only by submersible. Their presence is considered an open secret, known by many, but acknowledged by none.

cont.
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>>2999708
Because we'll get a better selection of elite agents and having a larger population of happy, productive humans will do wonders for our PR.
>>2999706
I wanted to go more in depth with it. Not just "just let them do their own thing" but brainstorming programs to help the native population.
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>>2999638
Just go by the Valen's market. The dudes have being dealling with credits for forever. So we can take a copy from their products and then give our prices
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>>2999725
Well, all prices and markets are currently taking a dive, as an advanced precursor race strolled up and said "yo, all these star systems are ours. Get your shit out." over the Expanse
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>>2999725
>>2999730
plus, said precursor race "speaks" where the Valen only "read", and have them collectively terrified, which might bump up the price of arms and weapons.
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>In Megas's orbit are three planetary moons, each a sizable planet in its own right. The closest to the giant is Erytho, a harsh, ash choked penal colony wracked with volcanism. Its population is held underground, where mining facilities and military bunkers dot the surface with ventilation ducts and shuttle bays. The population itself mostly consists of military personnel and prisoners, and the two intersect greatly, with the majority of military trainees serving in penal battalions for deployment in times of war, while the remaining prisoner population operate the various mining facilities. The planet also serves as a testing ground for new combat equipment running endurance tests in the harsh environment, and is popular among drop trooper divisions for testing their new recruits.

Penal Regiments? Fuck yeah!
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>>2999719
Mother Knows Best is doing all the quality of life optimizations that should make it an attractive new home as word spreads.

We don't want to do too much beyond perfectionist social engineering and optimization, it might make us appear thirsty for encouraging alien immigration to hive space. Which we might be, but shouldn't appear to be. They'll wonder what use we have for a population to rule.
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Regarding the new information and changes that the union intelligence agency's have about our capabilities I think it is prudent to review that operation involving spreading parasites among the tald clans on gemeni as it was stated before that union intelligence keeps tabs on what happens in there

For now a report regarding the crazy new thing that the talds are talking about is low priority given more pressing matters to union analysts but someone can easily connect the idea that a new parasite from the expanse that is being traded to the tald may be a hive intelligence operation
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>>2999716
The last moon is the planet of Fairweather, a remarkably earth-like planet held under the protection of Megas's magnetic field and gravity well from the dangers of radiation and asteroid bombardment, but far enough away to avoid the more destabilizing effects, Fairweather's main notable aspect is just that, and as such most of its surface is covered in flourishing farmland and forests exported from Earth long ago. Large, sprawling cities built in the neo-gothic styles preferred by the Reuenthal family covers much of the less arable land, and the entire planet is, in theory, the private holding of the imperial royal family.

You zoom your scopes in on the surface, quickly located a number of palaces and forts marking the homes of various nobility. The capital becomes painfully obvious by that standard, a massive arcology built to replicate the castles of ancient earth, its structure designed to mimic stone masonry, although it is clearly some manner of carbon polymer judging by its size. The vast structure is like a terraced pyramid, each layer covered in spires and villas, with overhanging gardens and sprawling parks of tame grass, flowers, and trees of all number of species and types. At its peak is a tremendous spaceport where a number of corvette class ships are docked, and the arcology is ringed by several anti-orbital batteries, each disguised with sculpted metalwork to give them the look of massive gargoyles snarling at the skies like inanimate watch dogs, and runways offer more traditional air traffic means of arrival, with hangars set inside the massive super structure.

>Send a speaker with a diplomatic force (write in)
>Reply through the Commonwealth's other channels
>Other
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>>2999739
We don't "rule" over them. We are everyone's mom and just want to adopt them.
One day, the entire galaxy shall be our children!
For Mother!
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>>2999701
>>2999719
So far, we've only really been reactive to other species' approaches to our law & policy, through inquiry, at opportunity. There are only a few more things I can think of, and most of them go along the lines of >>2999706 a hands off policy.

Though, with respects to businesses or sciences, I believe anons many threads ago suggested some high-octane labs to bait high profile scientists, essentially giving grants and equipment far beyond their government's ability and willingness to bait more scientists.

Subjects of religious freedoms I suppose might be another topic that nobody seems to have approached us with other than our allowance of uncolorful ceph.

I'm not sure exactly what would attract others, more specifically than the best medical care in most likely the whole galaxy. Subsidizing businesses is how businesses get attracted, that's relatively straightforward, but then it becomes which kind and how much are we willing to spend in resources, relative to what they could actually gain. We supply and staff our own tourism, after all, we just import imagination.

Artistic grants and licenses for space cities and our newly gained worlds, to give local decor a more individually minded touch? There's a lot of broad strokes to paint with policy, it's pretty difficult to think of everything before we're actually confronted with it.

>>2999738
You know, we could probably make our own Australia, if we weren't worried about the political backlash of opening a Hive prison world. I think that was an old suggestion that got shot into a star rather quick, though its potentials are obvious.
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>>2999719
Didn't we determined that we will create our own space in the planet and the humans can sort themselfs but the ones that wish to take part of the good things the Hive can offer will be given those and also allow then to live in the Hive bases?

Also Becoming a Hive citizen is having a parasite implanted.
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>>2999748
>Reply through the Commonwealth's other channels
Don't want to step on Magnus foot given the senstive relationship he has with this lot
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>>2999751
well, really, what government would complain when we go "Hey, you know how you're spending tons of resources to hold these prison populaces, how about we take care of them for you, for free?"

>>2999748
>Send a speaker with a diplomatic force
Maybe a couple of light fleets?
Also, might want to combine this with
>Reply through the Commonwealth's other channels
to make it clear these are diplomats, not an invasion force.
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>>2999748
>Send a speaker with a diplomatic force (write in)
I believe a single fleet would be enough.
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>>2999751
>Artistic grants and licenses for space cities and our newly gained world.
This is likely a good idea for a variety of reason like propaganda and better products.
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>>2999747
Eh just have the Taidaren move to the expanse. After the canderon nukes who can blame then?

We can have our parasited Taidaren fight the new Matron that is trying to seatle on the expanse.
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>>2999739
This is also my concern. We shouldn't appear overly wanting or inviting, we should just look like a better opportunity. In our natural "this is how it's done" Motherly way.

>>2999748
>>2999758
This should be sufficient.
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>>2999748
>>Send a speaker with a diplomatic force (write in)
With more speakers! We are not gonna be understaffed this time.

Some bio-tanks/medical pods on legs of course, and warriors and Heavy Warriors. two for the lead speaker.

Also, send the ships to arrive via a rip drive portal opened by one of the rip drive battleships we built, to show off what we'll build soon.
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>>2999763
Wouldn't that be really out of character for them given there past actions?
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>>2999771
>some lesser nobles invite a precursor race to go check out the religious palaces
>they tear the very fabric of space and time apart to get there.

Yup. I, for one, would ask Space Pope Donovan to approve of these bug overlords
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>>2999748
>Reply through the Commonwealth's other channels

Yeah i remember Yognesh speaking about the royal family better talk with Magnus and not let things get to out of hand.

Although i doubt Magnus would deny since the Royal family is the one with the biggest fleet in the Commonwealth.
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>>2999748
If diplomatic force was asking for what kinds of ships to send:

Send 3 corvettes. Include at least one kind with G-sensors on it.
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>>2999772
Dunno. I mean the expanse is a entire new rig they could just be tryi g to move and take this new Matron if the Hive is going to have a underworld it's better that it's us controlling it.
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>>2999748
>>Send a speaker with a diplomatic force (write in)
A handful of speakers and some especially fancy warrior guards. Also send a small fleet with good point defense. They can help if the Union launches gravitics at the planet in response to the recent attack.

Also, Magnus can fuck right off if he complains about our doing this without telling him first. The CW just bombed the Union and almost killed our agents, after all, and we didn’t get any warning.
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>>2999758
>>2999766
Pick just one option anons. Remember we are making a political statement here don't forget that most of the Commonwealth is expecting the leader who has being alive for 200 years to kick the bucket. This is most likely his attemp to trade for our biotech since the word about Wise operation must have reached him.
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>>2999748
>Send only a small force, 3 corvettes with suitable speakers and escorts
>Send a large force, a fully fleet with speakers and protection
>Send a huge force, more than one fleet, with impressive and boastful protection
>Other
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>>2999797
That was almost certainly a false flag. Windsor and Alexandra are so mad at Killinger for not giving them any real warning beyond mentioning making 'phone calls.' This was probably their Plan D, not Plan B, he totally escalated too fast.

But yeah, it's not really the upper admiralty's business as long as Fairweather pays its taxes, they can invite who they want to open a consulate and/or private hospital.
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>>2999781
Well if Magnus wanted us to go through him or tell him about the trip first, he really should have warned us about his plan to use superweapons on the Union first. He needs to keep us in the loop about such things or he will be cut out of the loop himself.
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>>2999803
>Send a huge force, more than one fleet, with impressive and boastful protection
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>>2999803
>>Send a large force, a fully fleet with speakers and protection

Via an impressive wormhole within sight of the planet. We built rip drive ships as part of the carrier battle groups we made.
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>>2999797
Dude the nukes were obviously Killinger advancing the time table in getting people so afraid of a attack that they would push for the bill.
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>>2999803
>Send a large force, a fully fleet with speakers and protection
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>>2999804
I would agree it was a false flag if the Union wasn’t so outgunned and in need of military assets at this point. For a false flag attack they did a lot of damage to themselves.
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>>2999803
I'm tempted with relocating our Hive Ship to them, but we're using that to cow the Union, so...
>Send a huge force, more than one fleet, with impressive and boastful protection.
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>>2999818
Which is why it wasn't plan A through C. It's a gamble that they can win the fight even with the losses.
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>>2999803
>>Send only a small force, 3 corvettes with suitable speakers and escorts

>>2999814
We should save the sudden wormhole for the arrival of the Skyl at our concert.
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>>2999803
>>2999819
Oh yeah, and
>Other
>Bring the fleet in with Rip Drives, not through Blinks, to show that the Hive can offer an alternative to the Valen hypergates
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>>2999818
>so outgunned and in need of military assets

He only freakin' aimed at mothballed storage facilities. The most useless of military targets. They got more ships than they got manpower to fly them with.

It cost the war effort nothing in the end.
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>>2999806
You do realize that the nukes were launched just as Killinger said he was going to make "phone calls" to advance the time table right?

There is no reason Magnus would cause trouble to us and contacting Magnus now through the common channel allows us to talk to him about the nukes and confirm this.
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>>2999800
Right.

>>2999803
>Send a huge force, more than one fleet, with impressive and boastful protection

Eventually the humans will learn that we don't send helpless amounts of forces to well populated worlds as a general thing.
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>>2999823
But the Union was already at war with the CW and suffering from real attacks. What would they really gain from a false flag? Their population already wants war.
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>>2999818
Eh, one with actual big consequences to themselves would have been at a garrison/barracks/training academies.
The Union is lacking in people, not equipment.
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>>2999829
Bring the war home. Think of this as 9/11.
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>>2999818
Did you not read the part were Jack talks about the Union having the ships but not enough people to man then? A couple of ships exploding in some storages is nothing. With the attack people will start to enlist and the Union will be able to man their fleet.
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>>2999829
Because the emergence of the advanced precursor race more than capable of conducting gunboat diplomacy against heir interstellar "empire" has been distracting their populace and presents a much bigger threat than the CW ever could?
Or that might be some of the rationale.
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>>2999829
It's not about what they gain, it's about what Killinger wants to achieve.
But we should still confirm with our commonwealth source regardless.
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>>2999803
>Send a huge force, more than one fleet, with impressive and boastful protection
>Use Rip Drives
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>>2999803
>Send a huge force
seems to be the consensus, and since you mentioned it...

>Send them with typical blink drives
>Send them with a rip drive
>Other
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>>2999825
>Rip Drives
>s

We only need one to send them all through.

That's the really impressive bit. One single use of the drive, huge fleet passes through it. It doesn't even have to be a drive that's equipped to any ship that's there.

We can keep the fleet here until the Drill at Bedrock is completed, and then use the Drill to call them back, when we do.
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>>2999840
>Send them with a rip drive

Lets keep the fact that we can just make entire fleets of ships just "appear" out of thin air, not... too obvious.
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>>2999833
That reminds me.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0-Lvv1f5Qu4
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>>2999840
>Send them with a rip drive
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>>2999803
>>Send only a small force, 3 corvettes with suitable speakers and escorts
We don't have unlimited ships, we teleported most of them away from the Union capital to capture the Scavs stupid rock after all.
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>>2999829
Man the ships and advance support for the bill.
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>>2999840
>Send them with a rip drive
Eh sure.
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>>2999840
>Send them with a rip drive
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>>2999844
true.
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>>2999845
EVERYONE KNOWS WE CAN MAKE SHIPS APPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE.
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>>2999845
I think that ship sailed the minute we blinked an overwhelming force and a damn hive ship into visual range of the union whitehouse
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>>2999857
Yeah but not everybody has seen it themselves yet. Surely you understand?
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>>2999840
>Send them with typical blink drives
We should save the rip drive for the Skyl introduction

Also, we don’t really need to send a huge fleet but, whatever, I guess what makes people happy.
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>>2999833
Or Pearl Habour.
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>>2999861
I understand it's a stupid argument you are trying to make.
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>>2999829
Scare people into instituting a) emergency war powers, b) a new President, which Conrad hubristically assumes will be himself, c) conscription.

>>2999840
>>Send them with a rip drive
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>>2999867
It's fun.
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Why are we using the rip drive again?
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>>2999845
Lol, are you serious? Our intro to Union was blinking our entire fleet into a ridiculously close and dangerous orbit of their capital world.
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>>2999872
Because we want to show off? (Even though if we save it it will be way more impressive when the Skyl emerge later.)
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>>2999872
Well, it honors them with being the first humans to see it. It's also like a preview of coming attractions: to a trade route near you.

Make their trade syndicates salivate over the potential use of hive wormholes.

Actually, they're thirsty enough, if we ever hammered out a deal to have drones operate a Tachyonic Drill here at St. Petersburg, it would have the range to reach the entire Commonwealth and all of hypergate-riddled Valen space combined.
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>>2999840
>Send them with typical blink drives
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>>2999840
>>Send them with a rip drive
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>>2999840

>Send them with typical blink drives
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>>2999840
>Send them with typical blink drives
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>>2999883
So just to have our big dick around? No thanks then.

>>2999885
You are implying that they would want to trade with us. They have laws against the Valen trade and most of their commerce with the Valen is basicaly black market stuff.
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>>2999840
You send two of your new fleets still awaiting orders and have one of your drive ships begin the process of opening a rift to the system. It is a great distance away, and with their more limited rip drives you will need to have them blink most of the way before finishing the more impressive leg of the trip. You suspect they should arrive on schedule by tomorrow, and you send word ahead to avoid causing any unnecessary panic among the sizable local picket forces.

Meanwhile, you have been eyeing your recently depleted asteroid mining facility. The small hive is still not totally abandoned, as it serves some use with the sensors plastered across its surface to alert to any incoming threats, but beyond that it serves no use, but it could. Its size is considerable, and the pre-existing atmosphere within would make construction of a space city far more easy, fast, and cheap. It is a prime opportunity.


>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system (write in hub)
>Do not
>Other
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>>2999840
changing vote since others have a more heated opinion and I don't care.
>Send them with typical blink drives
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>>2999913
>Other

Lets turn it into a massive long range weapons platform.

Might be nice to have yknow?
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>>2999913
>>2999922
Hmm... this anon has a point.
>Other
>An orbital battle-station!
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>>2999913
>Build a Factory hub
For Resource income.
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>>2999913
>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system (write in hub)
manufacturing ho!
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>>2999913
>Other

Attack Moon
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>>2999922
That's what a star hive is anon.

>>2999913
>>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system (write in hub) Star Hive
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>>2999913
>>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system
A military defense one, aunty been too quiet and we been sending a lot of fleets away from home
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>>2999913
>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system (write in hub)
>Economical space station
We're in serious need of nutrient income, boosting the largest N income planet (Leeland) is the obvious solution.
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>>2999913
Build a Hive Star to boost our defense like anon suggested further up the thread and multiple anons supported

>>2999922
>>2999929
That's called a Hive Star, the space city dedicated to defending a star system
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>>2999913
>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system (Star Hive)
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>>2999942
Alright. I forgot about that.
Then take my vote
>>2999929
as a Space city (Star Hive)
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>>2999937
>>2999942
>>2999922
>>2999929
You guys do realize an Asteriod field is piss poor place for a Star Hive.
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>>2999913
Can we also build a tethered oribtal station attached to Leeland's big planet penis?
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>>2999958
It's not any less useful than a Star Hive in open space.
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>>2999913
Assuming we can move this to a strategic location over Leeland...
>Begin construction of a new space city in your home system (write in hub) Star Hive
>>2999941
We just gained several planets. We can gain nutrients from several of them quickly or could build space-cities there. However, we only have one capital and we need to improve its defenses
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>>2999963
Vastly less useful than a Macrofactory in the same position and the Macrofactory makes building more space cities easier.
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>>2999963
He means it's more useful if you put it next to something you want to protect, he's not advocating putting it in deep space or something anon.
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>>2999913
Star Hive is the only logical choice, aside from >Do not. So go with a star hive.


Y'know still no Valen have visited the Presidium that we've noticed. Maybe we should invite the Guild of Transportation guys there.
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>>2999975
It's only been like 1 day. Let the Valen sweat.
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>>2999975
>logical
I don't see the logic. Well I do but it's impulsive bullshit and less optimal than the Macrofactory.
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>>2999941
>>2999931
You guys forget we have a trade route with our company FormOther and the Valen bank right? The Star Hive allow us to protect said route which will be attacked by Ceph once it's found.
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>>2999975
I have no problems making overtures to the Valen. Hell, we could even apologize for scaring them last time. An apology, however small, could go a long way towards "humanizing" us in the eyes of the Valen.

We could also offer them a gift, maybe discounted trading costs at the other hive city?
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>>2999958
It's depleted you dingus there is no more metal to mine on it.
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>>2999983
I don't understand? WHAT ARE YOU PROTECTING IT FROM? Any design could work for defense but the Macrofactory works best when near asteriod fields or other similar resource fields.
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>>2999982
Anon I understand your argument and Leeland definitely is a good place for a macro-factory. However, we also just gained several planets and should have a nutrient bump from them soon. We have not fought a serious military threat in a while (Scavs don't count), but if Leeland is ever directly attacked in the Quest (which is extremely likely to happen at some point) we will be happy there is that extra protection.
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>>2999988
The asteriod field is fill with resources if you checked or cared.
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>>2999991
The asteroid field is depleted!!! THERE IS NOTHING TO MINE IN THERE!
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>>2999991
>What are you protecting OUR HOMEWORLD from?
>Why would we possibly fortify the system with THE QUEEN as much as possible?
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>>2999998
THE ASTERIOD IS DEPLETED, THE FIELD IS RICH WITH METAL.
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>>2999913
>Star Hive

The hub will be simple enough to build, and once the foundations are finished you can begin on the six wards.

>Write in
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>>2999982
>>2999968
> Macrofactory makes building more space cities easier.
What. No. A Logistics Trade Route does that and you don't need a macrofactory to do that kind of import of resources.

A Macrofactory exploits all resource sites. It would be best located in a system with lots of non planetary resource sites, not just one or two.

There's basically just the asteroid field in this system. That's one. We can exploit that with a Refinery Ward on the Star Hive.
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>>3000000
shit get
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>>3000007
My thoughts exactly
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>>3000002
Refinery
Thermal Regulator x2
Barracks x2
Laboratory
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>>3000003
hmm... 6 wards.
What would be the most useful for a first line of defense for our throneworld?
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>>3000007
Such a waste :'(
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>>3000003
Maybe
Barracks x2
Tachyonic Drill
Thermal Regulator x3?
Good stats for a dedicated battle-station?
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>>3000002
>>3000023
Backing
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>>3000023
Are you trying to leave the asteroid field lay fallow and unmined?
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>>3000002
I notice some confusion, so to clarify, the mine in the large asteroid is empty, but the asteroid field is not, and will provide its value in metals to any city that exploits it. Any hub may exploit the field if equipped with a refinery ward.

Proposals

>1
Refinery
Thermal Regulator x2
Barracks x2
Laboratory

>2
Barracks x2
Tachyonic Drill
Thermal Regulator x3?

>Other
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>>3000028
I don't get what you mean.
As per QD >>2999913
There isn't even enough minerals left to keep a non-Space city asteroid mining facility running.
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>>3000010
>>3000023
do Thermal Regulators stack?
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>>2994951
>Asteroid mining base [Depleted]
>This hollow asteroid provides an excellent location to construct a Space City at low cost.

>Asteroid belt
>M 57
>A sizable belt of metal rich asteroids containing a large, hollowed out Hive mining base that would serve as a decent foundation for a Space City hub.
Do some of you guys even bother to read the OP?>>3000027
>>3000023
>no refinery
What a complete waste.
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>>3000002
Refinery
Thermal Regulator
Tachyonic Drill
Barracks x2
Laboratory

We can replace one of the barracks with a star mining drill when we unlock it.
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>>3000032
>>3000033
Ah, so there are some minerals.

Then I'd go for
>Other
>2
>except trade 1 barracks for 1 refinery
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>>3000033
Thinka read. Read.

>Asteroid belt
>M 57
>A sizable belt of metal rich asteroids containing a large, hollowed out Hive mining base that would serve as a decent foundation for a Space City hub.
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>>3000032
>2
Barracks x2
Tachyonic Drill
Thermal Regulator x3?

>>3000028
this is our home system, they will get mined by mining ships automatically in the background
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>>3000034
They should.
Their whole thing is to regulate heat, and so, with more heat regulators, there should be more efficiency/the station should last even longer in fights.
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>>3000032
>1


>>3000042
That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
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>>3000042
Nope. That doesn't seem to be case anymore.
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>>3000032
tfw always too late
>other

Refinery
Thermal Regulator
Tachyonic Drill
Barracks x2
Laboratory

>replace one of the barracks with a star mining drill when we unlock it
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>>3000037
This seems like the best spread. With the refinery ut can help speed up building and repairing ships docked with it using the asteroid belts resources
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>>3000032
>1
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>>3000050
There ain't no Canderon in this star system.
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I don't even think Barracks stack bonuses like that.
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>>3000034
With decreasing returns. Each additional ward will grant half the normal benefits than the last.
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>>3000032
>>3000037
seconded
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>>3000032

Looks like we have additional proposals with the new clarification.

>1
Refinery
Thermal Regulator x2
Barracks x2
Laboratory
>2
Refinery
Thermal Regulator
Tachyonic Drill
Barracks x2
Laboratory

>>3000057
You can't be entirely certain of that just yet. Once you get the technology to mine them, you will be able to properly prospect your local stars.

>>3000059
The barracks ward includes hangars for gunships, so at the very least, it will be able to deploy more gunships to respond to threats. It will also have more defenders in the unlikely event of the station being invaded.
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>>3000070
Alright, when it's up to whether we want a tachyon drill or not, it's a much simpler choice.
>2
It doesn't need as much endurance when it can just open a rift for reinforcements, and when stacking regulators have diminishing returns.
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>>3000070
>2
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>>3000070
But we aren't detecting any gravitional anormalities to suggest the presence of Canderon.
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>>3000070
>2
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>>3000077
Well, when we're more aware of all the intricacies of Canderon and its presence, we'll have a much better way to see how it affects stars.
Even if Wolf is the only star known to have canderon so far, doesn't mean it's actually the only one in this sector of the galaxy.
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>>3000070
>1
Refinery
Thermal Regulator x2
Barracks x2
Laboratory
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Could we use the rip drive to explore the dense cloud that acted as a barrier for blink drives?
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>>3000070
>2
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>>3000077
True, meaning there is no large source, but who knows how many of your stars may hold smaller pockets deeper within the star. Easily detectable gravitational anomalies tend to only happen with very large canderon sources, or when extraction is already in progress.

So who knows? I still have yet to roll for it for most of them.
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>>3000083
We just got a system rich with Canderon. Gravity is so fucked in that system that we can't use gravity sensors. So yeah stupid statement.
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>>3000088
maybe

>>3000093
That still doesn't mean any of our other stars don't have trace amounts we could harvest.
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>>3000070
Would it be possible to move the Hive city to a different orbit eventually if we wanted to protect Leeland itself?
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>>3000070
>2

Star Hive
Refinery
Thermal Regulator
Tachyonic Drill
Barracks x2
Laboratory

Do you wish to give your new fortress a name?
>Name it (write in)
>Don't bother
>Other
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>>3000096
It already will be, as the star hive's missiles and deployed fighter craft can cover the entire system. To move it into direct orbit however is impossible with your current technology.
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I wonder what the trade rate between nutrients and canderon is.
>>3000097
>Don't bother
It's simply a bigger drone.
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>>3000088
I... What? Are you talking about the system the Scarred queen owns? Because if so there's no point.
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>>3000097
>Name it (write in)
>Guardian
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>>3000077
It's not necessarily obvious.
>>3000097
>>Don't bother
Anyone who sees it will either already be connected to the hive network of mind-to-mind communication, or they're about to die.
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>>3000097
>Dont bother
It is born to die in our name unfortunately.
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>>3000097
May as well since we'll be importing homos to our lab.

>Mother's Aegis
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>>3000099
>>3000102
>>3000103
Come on guys, we went and named Citadel, we can name The Queen's first line of defense.
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>>3000101
I like this one.
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>>3000097
>Guardian
>Mother's Aegis
>Other
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>>3000109
>Guardian
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>>3000098

Supporting Guardian
>>3000101
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>>3000109
>no name.
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>>3000109
>Guardian
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>>3000105
Yeah but that's for the single minded. We don't name warrior drone #50681059 so why should we name the hive city?
>>3000109
>No Name
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>>3000109
>Guardian
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>>3000109
>Mother's Aegis
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>>3000114
Because the Star Hive deserves it, as our First, and most likely most often only necessary line of defense for Mother.
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>>3000109
>No Name

See when the cyclops gets blinded, everyone will misunderstand his complaint and ignore it then.
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>>3000110
>Guardian

I wanted to call it Paladin but Guardian is better.
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>>3000109
Looks like
>Guardian

Construction begins at once. While the mine itself is depleited, there are metals left to salvage within the structured built to hold the asteroid together as you slowly hollowed it out, and the rock itself provides an excellent mortar for the inner foundations. You suspect the work should still take some time, but progress will be relatively quick.

Meanwhile, you turn your attention to your falling space pod. It has been some time, but you've managed to get one to touch down onto the rapidly spinning planet within your system, designated simply P2 by the Union explorers.

cont.
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>>3000119
we didn't name our first other drones either. Hell we don't even name our planets or stars but adopt a name someone else has given it. It's not even accurate to say it wouldn't have a name just that it would have no name that humans can understand.
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>>3000119
You do realize the Black Hive doesn't even know where we live and the Enemy doesn't give enough of a fuck to inform her. Well now that we built the station it's going to be obvious.
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>>3000124
That one anon who kept bringing up P2 is about to orgasm after years of edging.
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>>3000125
Honestly normally I wouldn't bother with the imminent shitstorm inducing process of naming something, but humans will be invited aboard due to the laboratory so I figured it would be appropriate to give it some designation for their benefit at least.
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>>3000125
Plenty of our old drones have names.
Our adorable speakers are "speaker".
Our starting thinker is still "Thinker from mom" unlike the rest of our thinkers.
The heroic Wasp is "best wasp"
And the Titan is "favorite hive-child" as apposed to how Elizabeth and Lyle are "favorite adopted children"

Just because most of our billions of children don't have verbal names, doesn't mean mother doesn't love them, we just never had a reason for a formal sense.

>>3000129
Going by that logic, we should tear our Hive at Leeland apart and never develop any of our to-be colonies, for fear of BQ finding them.
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>>3000125
The only reason we have a "name" is Heretic because we care that little about names.
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>>3000121
>See when the cyclops gets blinded, everyone will misunderstand his complaint and ignore it then.
What the fuck does this even mean?

>>3000125
Speak for yourself, I still remember Fido our amazing first sniffer.
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>>3000130
I wonder if there's any high-G evolved life, or something.

I mean, how WOULD life adapt to an incredibly rapidly spinning planet? Could it even do so naturally?
>>3000135
Fido is a hero, and still around on Leeland.
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>>3000132
I meant a "formal verbal name" when I wrote "formal sense".
please ignore my brainfart
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>>3000131
wait what? this laboratory is going to be used for joint projects?

I thought we were building or reusing a union black research lab in one of those new systems we picked up to make it more secure not in our home system
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>>3000132
Our drones have descriptions. Speaker applies to all speakers while Star Hive is the descriptor and Guardian is the name. We also haven't named any of our other drones in canon.
>>3000135
Wasn't our first and we didn't name it in canon.
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>>3000125
I wonder if the Egyptians had this argument about the pyramids.

>You don't name your individual toenails so you shouldn't name these amazing superstructures that are a testament to our civilization.
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>>3000139
The purpose with Laboratory Wards in space cities is so that we can host foreign scientists and enable them to study whatever dangerous tech and experiments they want to do, in a lot safer environment.

Otherwise, we could just hand that tech over to our massive fields of quantum thinkers.
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>>3000143
There's no difference though. the star hive IS a part of us just like the hivecreep encompassing an entire planet which easily dwarfs this thing.
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>>3000131
We're retrofitting a Laboratory into Bedrock first.

Until they're parasited and hive devoted they aint coming near here. This is a sensitive star system.
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>>3000132
We have other systems that are more likely to be attacked like the Garden or the system where the Skyl ringworld. That and the fact that void cutters are more likely to attack which undermines most of the value of the Star Hive. If you really care about defense you'd go for the Shield Upgrades.
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>>3000131
Oh nice, I'm glad the humans will be able to help out. They can be very good thinkers indeed when it suits them.

Also, apologies about the naming induced shitstorm, it happens to everyone.
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>>3000151
We can't do much shield upgrading until our Thinkers pick up their slack.
Until then, it would be a good idea to set up a battle station explicitly to protect the Queen.

And then, when we do have all the shield upgrades, it'll just protect the Queen even better.

There's literally no downside to dedicating a battle-station to PROTECT THE QUEEN.
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>>3000132
This is accurate.
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>>3000137
>doesn't remember about Unity's capital
>asks about lifeforms in high gravity conditions
Really?
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>>3000150
The lab in bedrock is for the normie stuff the cool stuff gonna be made in here and only Hive human scientist will be allowed.
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>>3000161
To be fair, we haven't seen 0-1 in a long time.

I can't believe we almost didn't make the star hive have a tachyonic drill, guys that shit basically makes any area in 20LY free range for our strike craft from the base.
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>>3000159
You could just switch research topics. That's always an option that nobody seems to remember.
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>>3000161
High-G is one thing, okay, but how would life naturally evolve to adapt to a planet that GOTTA GO FAST.

And if it can, how can we take those adaptions and benefit from them ourselves? Make corvettes that could withstand going faster and changing velocities more, with greater skill at flying?
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>>3000159
We've so far been relying on the thought obscuring structure on planet to mask our location. This is no longer the case with the introduction of another massive source of tachyons in the system.
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>>3000172
You know we could build multiple tachyon drills right? The mere fact that a drill is near a planet doesn't tell everyone "the queen is here"
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>>3000178
I'm talking about the amount of background chatter that a hive naturally produces.
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>>3000169
Just open a request to the Valen asking for rare species. Not like we would use Money for nothing else beside sponsoring black op missions
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>>3000178
>implying a new space city wouldn't draw a lot from her when she sees it
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>>3000183
Eh a Star Hive already has the disavantage of being hard to conceal it's in the freaking pastebin after all.
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>>3000183
Going by that, Builder's Gift should be shouting "QUEEN HERE. LOOK AT ME. QUEEN IS HERE. COME ON." 24/7 right now as a Space Hive that's fully operational.

>>3000184
We honestly should, desu. Let them know they can appease the terrifying "speakers" with genetic samples.
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>>3000184
Seriously. Get us some sun puppies.
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>>3000190
ah, I see the good ol' filters are still on.
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>>3000184
Good idea. We need to do some trading with the Valen anyway and can use this to start an exchange of "gifts" in a way that could help slowly bring the relationship out of the shitter.
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>>3000124
The planet's rapid spin makes landing rather difficult, as any orbit tends to have an unusually high velocity relative to the surface. You find the same odd rock formation, possibly a volcanic mound, or even an eroded piece of hive or Skyl vessel crashed long ago. It is near the northern pole, making it a prime location to land regardless, and your drones begin examining the surroundings as they leave the pod, quickly taking soil and air samples.

The atmosphere is not breathable by a long shot, although there is a trace amount of oxygen in the air. You have prepared for this and sent drones suitable for vacuum operations. Possibly due to the rapid spin, which has caused the planet to bow out slightly at its equator, making it seem fat like a squashed ball, the atmosphere is thickest at the poles. Your drones confirm the readings you original took from orbit, with an atmosphere mostly composed of nitrogen, with a sulfur oxide and argon mixture making up the bulk of the rest, but a trace reading of other gasses, including oxygen in very small amounts. At the poles this is enough to create periodic cloud cover, and today there is a mild overcast in the area. The soil is somewhat more surprising, being composed mostly of fine crystalline powder holding mostly a mixture of ground quartz and other rocks, salt, and trace amounts of some manner of molecule that your drones register as sweet, the chemical structure being different from, but holding a similar biological effect as sugar.

cont.
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>>3000190
>Going by that, Builder's Gift should be shouting "QUEEN HERE. LOOK AT ME. QUEEN IS HERE. COME ON." 24/7 right now as a Space Hive that's fully operational.
It almost certainly does. It's obviously going to be a very loud place with all the relays in place.
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>>3000184
I'd be up for making a space dandy type deal where we pay adventuring space weirdos for any lifeform that isn't registered in our database.
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>>3000135
It's a reference to the Odyssey and the episode featuring Polyphemus. Odysseus tells him his name is Nobody, then when the cyclops is drunk he blinds it with a log from the fire. Polyphemus yells to his brothers "Help! Nobody is trying to kill me!" and they laugh and tell him to go to bed and sober up.
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>>3000196
non-biological space sugar? Sounds intriguing.
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>>3000196
oooh space sugar
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>>3000196
Omnomnomnom
Free nutrients.
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>>3000190
I mean we still need to research Gas stations tto take advantage of the many gas planet we have near us and pull the Karsinov guy to our place.

Honestly we should pull all our spies from the Union and focus in building our territory for now. Let the humans kill each other or whatever.

But first they need to deliver the void shards.
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>>3000196
Was someone trying to terraform a planet into a cake and left halfway through?
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>>3000206
highly unlikely.
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>>3000211
If so, we should finish the job.
Mmm, planet cake.
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>>3000211
>>3000206
>>3000203
>>3000201
This is P2 of our Capital by the way.
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>>3000210
>Honestly we should pull all our spies from the Union and focus in building our territory for now.
Why can’t we keep our spies in the Union and expand our territory at the same time? It’s not like Decker or Anderson will be useful in building nutrient farms or anything.
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>>3000220
There's been a planet-cake on our doorstep this whole time?
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>>3000196
>literaly a planet covered in salt
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>>3000229
What, Gemini?
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>>3000221
Mostly to control unrest from the human population that stayed. We still have to dela with anti-setient, doom cultists, Ceph cults and some anarquist.
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>>3000232
kek

Wonder if we will fidn pick related on the planet.
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>>3000196
Your next priority is to investigate the strange crystalline structures sprouting from the ground across the planet's surface almost like a forets of glittering glass. While you detect no sign of danger from orbit, you have learned that there is no such thing as being too careful.

There seems to be some pattern to them. Many of the crystal structures seem to be in close proximity to the mercury rivers and lakes which, on close inspection, you discover to be actual, literal mercury, with some trace elements of other particulate mixed in. There is also an increasing quantity of the crystal formations near the oddly shaped rocky mound, but past a certain radius of roughly half a kilometer they taper off and stop, leaving an empty clearing between the crystal forest and the object.

Your drones move up to one of the structures and attempt to take a sample. As your drone's blade sinks into the trunk, the entire structure vibrates and cracks, splintering and crashing down to the ground. They are clearly more fragile than you expected, and as you pick up a small sliver of the remains, you can feel chunks of it rubbing off on your drone's graspers.

It is...sweet, and salty, and.... alive? An initial chemical inspection indicates it is made mostly of edible molecules composed of the artificial sugar substance mixed with salt, but on further investigation it seems to be held together using a molecular lattice of silicon panels folded in on one another. You've seen this architecture before, in the genetic analog structure of the Silicates you recovered at Nowhere, but unlike those, these seem to be edible by biological life, and you can find no traces of any other life form that would be included in any such biosphere this crystal tree would fit into. The closest analog you can think of would be human so-called rock candy, simple oversized sugar crystal formations grown on strings or sticks and in this case, salted to taste. The careful balance of silicate genetic analog structure and edible components, to you, looks deliberate, and while silicate genetic engineering is still beyond you, you get the feeling these trees are some manner of artificial crop. Who seeded them is another question entirely.

Perhaps the structure in the clearing will hold answers.

>Search the structure with your drones
>Call them back
>Other
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>>3000253
>>Search the structure with your drones
Well shit
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>>3000253
>Search the structure with your drones
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>>3000253
cool, and weird.
Could maybe give us access to grow straight up flavored rock candy farms?

>Search the structure with your drones
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>>3000253
>>Call them back
Do lithovores vivisection first.

We already sent ships to Tenabris to get live lithovores, right?
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>>3000253
>Call them back
>Other
Send in non-psionic life with cameras. We've got human clones around here somewhere right?
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>>3000253
>Call them back
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>>3000253
>Call them back

>>3000262
>>3000253
This.
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>>3000253
>Call them back
Why is it deliberately delicious? Tastes like a trap!
>Send in dirty humans to investigate
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>>3000262
this

If this is a farm planet, there's gonna be some form of security. best minimize chances of psionic rekking.
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>>3000253
You hesitate. Any planet this delicious should not be trusted.

>Send your drones to investigate
>Send a team of clone humans
>Call your forces back and leave the planet alone
>Other
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>>3000261
Yes.

>>3000253
Supportung this:>>3000262
We habe clones now we should be carefull in going to places with silicate life forms and strange structures that look like Hive or skyl.
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>>3000253
>Call them back
Better safe than sorry when it comes to anything related to the sillicates/void. We can send in humans to investigate or at a most chimera that have psionic fortification.

>>3000262
>>3000270
>>3000275
I'm okay sending humans in.
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>>3000279
>Send a team of clone humans
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>>3000279
>Send a team of clone humans
Return of the clones.
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>>3000279
>Send a team of clone humans
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>>3000279
>Send a team of clone humans
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>>3000279
>Send a team of clone humans
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>>3000279
>>Send a team of clone humans
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>>3000279
>You hesitate. Any planet this delicious should not be trusted.
lmao

>Send a team of clone humans
Equip the team with Hive drop-suits and heavy weapons along with the standard samplers, cameras, etc. We don't need to skimp on the equipment for stealth reasons this time.
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>>3000279
>Any planet this delicious should not be trusted.
Brilliant.
>Send a team of clone humans.

We should keep a strike force of our drones ready in orbit though
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>>3000129
You really think that won't ever change?
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>pic related is this planet
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>>3000279
>>Send a team of clone humans
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>>3000279

>Clone humans
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>>3000279
>>3000253
Oooh, since we were talking about things we could "gift" to the Valen as they give us something to make up for our rough start, a new non-sugar edible sweet silicate seasoning might be a cool thing.
Processed, of course, not to be grown independently by them.
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>>3000279
>Send a team of clone humans

With the rapid spin of the planet you would likely have a hard time landing any shuttle of decent size. For a more rapid solution, you deploy several squads of clones in drop pods to the surface. You have no need to keep a low profile, so your deployed heavy carapace clone troops should be more than sufficient for such a scouting mission. You deploy the shuttles behind the wave of pods, by the time they have finished the shuttles should have been able to land to pick them up.

The clones begin broadcasting on radio frequencies, just in case, but you wonder if they should at the very least be monitoring any potential psionic activity?

>Have your clones block out all psionics
>Have your clones monitor psionics but remain cut off from your network
>Other
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>>3000305
>Have your clones monitor psionics but remain cut off from your network
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>>3000305
>Have your clones monitor psionics but remain cut off from your network
Even if it does affect them a little, it might be worth it to double-check if there's psionic activity there or not.
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>>3000305
>Have your clones block out all psionics
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>>3000305
>>Have your clones block out all psionics
>>Have your clones monitor psionics but remain cut off from your network

Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.

If the one being monitored goes strange at all, we blam them
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>>3000312
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.
This
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>>3000312
Supporting
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>>3000305
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.
>Have them all block it out
>Have them all monitor for psionics
>Other
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>>3000305
>>3000312
Ooh, good plan. Changing my vote >>3000309 to this.
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>>3000312
Seconding this, cool idea anon.
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>>3000317
>>Have them all block it out
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>>3000317
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.
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>>3000317
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.
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>>3000317
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.
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>>3000317
>>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.

Human single-mindedness has benefits which we must fully exploit
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>>3000317
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.
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>>3000253
>Rock candy planet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqowmHgxVJQ

On an evening as the sun went down
And our rip drives were a-firing
Down in space came a probe a-sailing
Transmits: "Bugs, I'm not turning,
I'm headed for a sector far away
Besides the crystal fountains!
So come with me, we'll go and scan
The big rock candy planet!"
In the big rock candy planet, there's a land that's fair and bright
Where the sugar grows on pillars, and gravity's very high
Where the plains are mostly empty, and there's air right 'round the poles
Oh and the microscopic things and silicon panes, and the mercury springs where the pillars sing, in the big rock candy planet
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>>3000317
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out
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>>3000317
>Designate one clone to monitor psionics and the rest blocking it out.

You designate one of your clones to maintain his medical parasite's observation of the local area, but you cut them off from your network, pulling your relays outside of range and giving the local drones over to thinker command as they load soil and tree samples onto the pod.

The structure itself is rather small, all things considered, a frozen wall of built up granules. Your clones examine the outer surface, wiping the buildup to the side to find a surface of near perfectly formed rock. Your clones switch to other sensors, searching for heat, radiation, or any sound signals to indicate activity, and find none. They search the hard way, using several sonic sledges to rapidly clear away the granule buildup of salt, sugar, and sediment from the building and you find it is just that, a clearly artificial hexagonal structure, each wall a slight incline, and perfectly straight and uniform in structure. One of your clones attempts to take a core sample of the material, and the drill bit snaps almost immediately upon contact, grinding uselessly as it splits the drill like a banana smeared into a wall.

Your clones fan out around the building and a pair beat their wings to leap to the roof, and they each cear off more of the structure until you can see it for what it truly is in its entirety. Along the roof are a set of pedestals, each hexagonal mimicking the layout of the walls, but smaller. The walls of the pedestals are unusually smooth compared to the stone, more of a hard marble than the softer, more rounded looking stone of the rest of the structure, but the tops match the rest of the ceiling. The smooth walls are grooved, like circuitry, and circular designs are carved into the top of the steps of pedestals, while in the very center is a perfectly circular and unspoiled bowl shape, untouched by the granules. Your clones' sensors detect a faint magnetic field of some sort around it, incredibly weak, but as you watch one of the specs of disturbed salt fall into the bowl, it floats back out before it manages to touch the inside and settles off to the side, leaving the interior pristine.

Your clone in charge of the psionics receives the radio command to investigate, and he leaps to the small bowl. Sure enough, he reports sensing something, incredibly faint, to the point of being undetectable at any distance. Your parasite relays the information to your clone, who relays it through the radio. The game of telephone leaves you will little in the way of context, but they claim it seems to be an incredibly faint psychokinetic field, only strong enough to repel the surrounding dust, and too weak to even feel with the human hand. The sensors in their suits register less than a microgram of force emitted at a constant rate from within the bowl.

>have the clone interact with it psionically
>Attempt something else
>Other
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>>3000369
>have the clone interact with it psionically
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>>3000369
>Have the clone interact with it psionically
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>>3000369
>>have the clone interact with it psionically
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>>3000369
>have the clone interact with it psionically
Only other thing I can think of would be to physically put something in the psychic bowl, but I've no idea what.
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>>3000369
>Other:"Send Heretic a ping and ask what he things about this. This structure look both Skyl and Hive he might have some intel for us. about it.
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>>3000369
Fascinating. A remnant from before the void niggers warred with the hive?
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>>3000369
this>>3000382
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>>3000369
>>3000382
Goood call.
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>>3000369

Supporting >>3000382
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>>3000382
>Other:"Send Heretic a ping and ask what he things about this. This structure look both Skyl and Hive he might have some intel for us. about it.

Vote change for this
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>>3000369
>>3000382
backing
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>>3000369
>>have the clone interact with it psionically
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>>3000382
Good idea, no harm in this.
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>>3000369
>have the clone interact with it psionically

You send the digital images to Heretic requesting any information on the device. Perhaps it has some connection to their old civilization, or even a relic of their deities, but the response is rather sad in its demnor. Not only has Heretic no information on the device, or the structure, but he has made very little progress on attempts to decode the signal you have detected emanating from the worlds in Scavenger space. According to Heretic, whatever they are, they are entirely unrelated to the Skyl, and as far as he can tell, their ancient gods.

From what you can tell however they have no clear relation to the Hive either, they have no biological component, and the surrounding silicate crops indicate a mastery of a field of technology that your kind has a difficulty understanding.

Regardless, your clone attempts to interact with the device, projecting a soft mental influence over it in an attempt to make it do.... whatever it is that it is made to do. After some moments of focusing, you detect the device begin to warm. Its surface already a slight, half a degree warmer than the surroundings, it quickly rises in temperature as some internal mechanism seems to awaken with a rumbling sound felt in your clones' boots that shakes their cameras. The bowl suddenly drops flush with the step below it, and then that step drops, again and again until the small stepped pedestal is flat on the roof of the structure, and then they continue to drop, extending into the structure itself. First the outer layer lowers by several meters, then one after the other the inner layers recede further into the structure until in the very center the bowl shape receids fully, leaving an empty, unlit hexagonal hole in the structure as you hear a loud thud a few meters below.

>Have your clones enter the structure
>Call them back
>Have your clones split up, with some entering and others waiting outside (write in)
>Other
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>>3000428
>>Have your clones enter the structure
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>>3000428
>Have your clones enter the structure
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>>3000428
>>Have your clones enter the structure
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>>3000428
>>Have your clones enter the structure
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>>3000428
>Have your clones enter the structure
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>>3000428
>Have your clones enter the structure
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>>3000428
>Have your clones enter the structure
Clones are expendable.
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Anybody else nervous?
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>>3000442

Always whenever somethign even slightly fucky happens
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>>3000455
These threads always get the most fucky late at night like this.
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>>3000428
>Have your clones enter the structure

You order your clones to move in in force, and they drop through the hole as their visors switch to night vision and thermal scan, revealing the structure to be seemingly empty. A short time later, the hole above seals as several stone chunks form into a new hexagonal core for the center of the structure, and the layers rapidly move back up, returning to a perfectly flat ceiling as the creases between the layers seem to vanish from the perfect craftsmanship of the surface of the ceiling, which has the appearance of an almost reflective dark marble.

The bowl's surface flashes with a sudden light and a burst of tachyons which reverberate within the chamber like an echo. A moment later your clones dive out of the way as a number of interlocking rings suddenly emerge from the ground surround the bowl, floating freely in the air above as they spin and twist, and then suddenly begin rotating like a gyroscope as they reverberate with psionic energy, sending a swarm of tiny droplets of mercury out from small spouts set along the insides of each ring, which rapidly flow through the air as if being poured over objects which are not there, forming into outlines of planets and moons. You quickly recognize a map of the system drawn in floating liquid mercury above you, held in shape by a psychokinetic field.

Along the outermost layer of the slowly spinning rings you see a sudden projection of light form a scrawling wall of symbols that quickly surrounds the central ring structure in a hexagonal shape matching the outer walls, and glowing vibrantly gold. Your clone reaches out to one of the shifting symbols to wave his hand through it to attempt to find the projector, and his hand impacts it like a solid object, the letters themselves a hard light construct in the otherwise softly glowing orangish gold glowing wall of holograms. The symbols themselves seem to have characteristics of a language, but not one you have ever seen before, with variations of circular shapes bisected with lines or smaller interior circles, or combinations therin.

In the floating metal projection you see the planet of P2 represented with its orbital path, and a red holographic sphere begins to pulse around it with a faint psionic sensation your clone reports has holding a kind of authority, as if intended to attract attention to an important notice. The circular language quickly spirals out from the holographic sphere, showing a detailed report of a problem you are unaware of in a language you do not comprehend.

The psionic wave shifts from one of attention, to a basic question, one your clone feels is demanding a response. Your clone is wondering what it should attempt to say.

>Answer yes
>Answer no
>Do not respond
>Other
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>>3000475
Oh boy.
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>>3000475
oooooh, so much neat psychic tech stuff for us to study.

>Answer yes
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>>3000475
>Do not respond
If it's sapient it will attempt other forms of communication.
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>>3000475
>other. Request clarification. Can we like... broadcast a language packet from the clone?
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>>3000475
>Other
Make wavy human motions and hope it tries to translate them.
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>>Other
request clarification
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>>3000475
>Y
Clones are expendable
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>>3000475
>>Answer yes
This is some prometheus star map shit
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>>3000475
>>3000491
Jmm... on better look.
Instead of Yes, maybe
>Other
>Express confusion, offer a language package?
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>>3000475
>other. Request clarification
If that is not possible then
>Answer yes
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>>3000505
A language package might be for the best.
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>>3000475
>Confusion. Translation? Language Package Transferred.
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>>3000279
>You hesitate. Any planet this delicious should not be trusted.
When you think about it that's a rather terrifying thought to be had by a hyper advanced swarm race.
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>>3000475
You clone attempts to find some method of translation for the meaning of the words. You sense a response as the bowl begins warming as several small protrusions quickly extend from within and a number of tiny, hairlike metal fibers extend, and then retract, and the bowl emanates a sudden pulse of confusion.

The bowl seems to be some manner of physical control device. Without a biologically compatible devicor you seem to be limited in the complexity of the responses you can give, however, a new wall of alien text appears. You still have no idea what it means, but the format shows you something of the languages syntax, with a series of vertical lines cascading down from the ceiling into neat rows. You realize in the context of your attempt at communication, this must be some manner of command prompt, a kind of list of available options or features perhaps, or even an instruction on how to operate the greater machinery of the structure. As it is though, it offers you nothing in regard to linguistics, but you record it all the same. It may prove useful as a comparison if you find any more examples of this language.

You decide with nothing more to go off of, you may as well see what will happen, and your clone attempts to think in affirmation, and you hope you are not agreeing to more than you bargained for.

cont.
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>>3000541
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>>3000541
Wait a second. Circular language? The Valen have something like that.
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>>3000546
Could be a progenitor to their language, or unrelated.
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>>3000541
I wonder if we could have found this planet OOC years ago if we had investigated earlier...
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>>3000555
I'm leaning towards no
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>>3000541
>Metal fibres
>Psychokinesis
>Unfamiliar language
>Fumbling around with alien technology

Time for another horror movie experience bois
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>>3000564
silly anon. Unlike a bunch of fumbling humans like on Raligha and Nowhere, we've got a strike team of elite hunter-killer clones here.

Basically, instead of the humans in an Alien or AVP movie, we've got the Predators examining what's going on.
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>>3000569
You forgot the part where we can interface with the device without going insane.
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>>3000574
That too. Every little bit helps.
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>>3000541
Outside, your orbiting pods detect a sudden shift in the structure. Small segments of the outer walls suddenly shift and slide open. From the open holes, a series of small, round objects are hurled out at great speed and sent crashing into the crystal forest beyond. Your thinker controlled drones take note, and quickly your pod takes off with the load of samples as your drones move to investigate the sudden disturbance.

As the pod moves away, it broadcasts the visual data it is recording to your clones, who in turn broadcast to you. A series of plumes of dust rapidly rise from the forest as crystalline spires fall one after another, rapidly getting closer. You hear a loud churning noise, like a rapidly growing avalanche moving in on your drones' location.

As the source of the disturbance clears the thickest of the trees, you see the first of them, a sphere, spinning tremendously fast as it rolls over the landscape, pulverizing everything in its path. Others, identical in appearance follow close behind.

Within the structure your clones observe a shift in the projected map above them as the mercury flows together into a much larger map of the planet plastered upside down above you. You see the structure you are within edged in the floating fluid, and several holographic dots are projected along the outskirts, as well as one floating in the air where you determine your pod to be. Several other holographic dots are rapidly approaching, moving away from the structure to intercept and surround the dots along the ground while a sharp holographic sphere flashes over the blip of your pod, and the structure rumbles again. This time, the walls shift back, the holes sealing back up before the middle section of the tapered walls begin to spin like a puzzle cube until the flat of the nearest wall faces your pod, and in the middle of the wall a panel unfolds as a magnetic field charges in a manner not unlike a railgun. The energy continues to build until the panel fully opens, and it discharges, and a new spherical object is sent hurling through the air on an intercept course with your pod as it spins like a football. Around its circumference you see a sudden glow, and a number of fins of hardlight materialize over the spinning ball.

Roll 1d100, best of 3 to evade
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>3000590
Oh no

Come on MOTHER
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>3000590
get fucked
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>3000590
FOR MOTHER
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>>3000590
huh, so we manually triggered some kind of a self-defense mechanism for this outpost?
Could have been worse, desu. Could have been a self-destruct command.
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>3000590
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>>3000592
>>3000593
>>3000594
>I somehow rolled highest
This is totally not good
Shouldn't have said YES.
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>>3000596
......

mother is sad
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>>3000592
>>3000593
>>3000594
I blame you three.
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>>3000601
Roll faster next time.
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>>3000602
I rolled at the perfect time to get that.
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>>3000590
That hardlight fin trick is pretty neat.
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>>3000592
>>3000593
>>3000594
How... mediocre.

>>3000596
15 seconds too late anon.
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>>3000590
Your pod shifts, firing its thrusters as it dives away from the spinning projectile as it shifts its own trajectory to match. The holograms track them both, adjusting the course as needed and you watch it as the two paths are projected to intersect, and the blips slowly come closer and closer.

Your pod feels a sudden sting against its hull, and the object explodes, its front half bursting like a human's shotgun shell, and the hull of your pod disintegrates into a cloud of flesh and bone, and a spray of blood dissipates into the air. The blips both vanish in a puff of holographic myst as the structure seems to emit a disinterested sense of accomplishment, like an accountant finishing a mundane task. As the pod's remains drift into a dissipating cloud of debris, the few solid chunks scattering widely in the air above, your drones close in and prepare for defence.

The spinning balls quickly close in, and you see them begin to slow. The first one to close the distance leaps into the air, landing into a shallow crater of salty silt as you receive clear images of it relayed through your clones' radio for the first time. They are smooth, almost marble looking orbs, featureless except for a series of segmented armor plates that covers their round bodies like large scales. Between them, in the corners where the scales meet, are small clusters of black orbs that extend out from their protective slots between the armor plates, a thick leathery flesh unfurling over them like eyelids, and retracting them quickly and instinctively as the eye comes close to the ground. There is an electric buzzing noise, and each ball projects a series of sharp, pointed limbs, like the ends of spears planted in the ground in a circle around them and linking to several of the eye-like protrusions as the spheres lift off the ground with their new hardlight legs.

>Have your drones attack the objects
>Attempt to have your clones cancel the attack
>Other (write in)
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>>3000617
>>Attempt to have your clones cancel the attack
We getting some kind of tech from this hopefully.
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>>3000617
>Other
Just wait and see what happens. A few drones' lives are worth the information.
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>>3000617
>Other (write in)
Pull all hive life into orbit. Wouldn't want the humans be tagged as hostiles and ruining our chances of getting access. Get Theseus on the line.
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>>3000617
>>Attempt to have your clones cancel the attack
Send it waves of psionic negatives.
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>>3000617
>>Other (write in)
They're just pods, right? They're utterly expendable compared to understanding the tech displayed here. Allow the pods to be destroyed and observe what happens.
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>>3000617
>Other
Pull out and wait for the things attacking to be done attacking.
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>>3000617
>>Other
>Just wait and see what happens. A few drones' lives are worth the information.
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>>3000617
Your drones are still outside your network range, alone with their standing orders. They will defend themselves, and you don't want to risk communicating with them until things calm down.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for your drones.
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It's obvious what we are dealing with here. Programmable matter.
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>3000647
get fucked round 2
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>3000647
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>>3000648
... oh shit. Sugar-like elements as energy source + silicates for electrio-magnetic power channeling?
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Rolled 77 (1d100)

>>3000647
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>3000647
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>>3000654
Look at that, you rolled fast enough this time.
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Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>3000647
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The strange spheres charge in, their hardlight legs moving with an unnatural elegance as their bodies seem to float through the air with their near perfect gait. Your drones open fire with their weapons, and the spherical marble structure quickly stammers back against the sudden attack, as its shell cracks from the impact sending small shards of plating into the air. The others project a small wall in front of them, like a buckler shield of projected energy that deflects most of the chitinous slugs and particle beam fire. The damaged one stammers for a moment, its legs flickering as it drops and rolls along the ground until it regains its stance and resumes its charge into yet more weapons fire, its own hardlight shield held up now.

The shields crack and flicker as the hardlight is broken down and regenerates in an endless cycle, your drones focusing their fire to compensate, and you break through, tearing into the armor of another of the spheres as it suddenly twitches, its legs mutating in a sudden burst of malfunctioning hardlight and then flickering away as its body drops to the ground and splits open. Shards of glittering gemstones fall out like a hemorrhaging wound as a strange viscous fluid pours out like clear syrup, quickly hardening and freezing over like a scab. Your drones take it as a chance to strike for the kill, and a particle beam lances through the wound, puncturing the sphere through the other side and sending it rolling back on the ground as its body opens like a cracked egg, spilling the clear fluid all around it, its skin structured almost like a geode, with an odd looking set of organs flop about inside like a gyroscope, flinging the clear, syrupy blood in wide arcs through the air as it loses momentum and slowly stops with a chittering, sputtering noise as the blood's rapid freezing grinds the gyroscope organ to a halt like a wrench in its gears. The crunching noises stop, and the organ freezes over entirely as the last few flickering hardlight legs fade away.

The other spheres alter their movement patterns the moment the first sphere goes down, their legs suddenly vanishing as their bodies dive and roll from side to side before the legs reappear, dodging the incoming fire to take the pressure off their shields. They are quickly closing in, and your drones shift their own patterns in response, preparing a circular phalanx of armored chitin as the heaviest of them prepare for melee combat, while the others remain in the center and fire out from within.

cont.
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>>3000689
Perhaps we oughta include ap/he mines in our ground kit in the future
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>>3000689
>hardlight weaponry
>crystal constructs
>psionics

Uh... did we just discover a crossover with Death Among the Stars Quest?

This sounds a lot like the crystals that fought against the old Armada
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>>3000689
huh they're lower quality than I was expecting.
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>>3000700
this may be a remnant of the void gods presence when they had direct presence in our reality and didnt use slaves
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>>3000703
That's my theory too

I was just struck by the similarities. Psychic crystals and all that
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>>3000689
Even when cutoff from mother our drones are still incredibly intelligent and terrifying.
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>>3000703
The Cluster did said that the other precursor race didn't traded with him and used silicate life forms to do it's will.

But the old tech and the fact that there is a hard light makes me think of the pre cursor civilizarion that the Scavs whorship.
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>>3000703
Makes sense to me too. That's probably why it auto-attacked the Hive and freaked out to see Hive signatures everywhere. It was a very good idea to use the humans to investigate here.
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I can neither confirm nor deny
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>>3000689
The impact is sudden, more like a projectile's impact than the result of a charging foe. Your heavy warrior's sledgehammer whips out to meet it, impacting with sudden and unrelenting force as your drone's claw reaches out in a sudden punch, cracking through the hardlight shield as it fires and sending a shockwave of force into the sphere's body, sending spiderweb cracks out from the point of impact over its side and sending it suddenly backwards, flying into the air away from your drones as chunks spiral off its spinning form as trails of thick blood splatter in a trail behind it. The sphere begins to break apart, the shell tearing away like the outer layers of a drop pod as its raw and exposed inner gyro organs scatter into the wind and splattering against the ground as the blood covering them rapidly freezes.

Immediately after, the next sphere replaces it, its shield shifting into something like a cleaver as it drives into your warrior. It raises its arms to block it and the hardlight blade begins to burn through the drone's carapace. The warrior holds up its sledgehammer and fires, its shockwave sending cracks along the sphere's side as two spears of hardlight puncture the side of the arm and push it away, and the cleaver snaps the arm in half, continuing on into the drone's carapace, quickly grinding into its body like a chainsaw through a log. The drone behind it fires its particle beam as the heavy warrior's body falls in half, and the beam drives into the sphere, sending it spinning from the sudden force as its armor cracks and glows from heat. Several hardlight legs left it over the drone, and its armor plating slides away enough to expose four small patches surrounding the eye-like object, which immediately burst with light as a rapid fire stream of blaster bolts shred the smaller warrior apart. As the weapon melts away the drone's armor another dives in, sendings its blades sinking into the newly exposed gunport as its blade suddenly falls into the sphere, the surprisingly hollow interior offering no resistance as it impales the internal gyroscope. There is a sudden snapping sound, and the sphere falls away as the blade snaps off from the internal movement, and the spheres flops on the ground, twisting and rolling from side to side at sudden and unpredictable directions as a grinding, snapping, squealing noise emanates from within like nails in a blender, and then it grows still and silent.

cont.
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>>3000724
These things are so fucking rad.
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>>3000724
Uh...interesting. Wonder if we could have developed photonic tech with this instead of getting it from the scavengers.
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>>3000724
Several of the other spheres suddenly break off their attack, launching away from the heavy warriors as their hardlight limps strike like spear tips into your drones' carapaces before extending suddenly to drive the spheres away like a pole vault only to have the limbs vanish and rematerialize at their sides. In their places several fresh and undamaged spheres dive in, and several of the weakened ones begin spinning through the ground, hurled into motion by their immaterial legs as their armor opens and begins firing blaster bolts into the drones' flanks. Several of your drones attempt to fire at the weak point of the exposed weapons, and as the chitinous bolts ricochet off the spinning armor it dives in, changing course to ram into the firing drone. A set of hardlight spears suddenly appearing and puncturing the drone's carapace as the sphere rolls over it and continues on, catapulting them both up and over the phalanx into the field of salt beyond as it projects a spinning drill that cores out the drone's head. As the drone flops to the ground, a beam of charged particles tears through the sphere, and it begins to shake as its injured gyroscope spins off center, and it drops to the ground with the drone as its limbs flicker and vanish.

Your clones watch as the carnage is shown with an impassioned sterility as holographic blips intersect one another and blink away one after the other. Alien text readouts spirals around the battle in a circle as the chamber is filled with a clinical sensation of displeasure, less a sensation felt, and more an announcement of failure. There is a small series of dots among the alien text, as the battle continues you realize it is a budget of sorts, seemingly balancing the casualties of the battle against what looks like an acceptable losses quota. The colors shift as one row of dots becomes more numerous than the other, indicating this fight is apparently over budget.

The bowl flashes with a sudden electrical current and a faint psionic aura, and the carved, circuit-like grooves carved within it suddenly flash with a rolling rainbow of color as hairlike fibers are injected into the air, and retract several times. There is a sensation of confusion, not unlike the feeling of a drone seeking its mother's network, but it lacks the emotion, the urgent desire for a mother's attention and guidance. It is far more clinical, like a computer terminal repetitiously demanding a devicer attend to its program. You can't think of any way in which your clones could interface with the bowl beyond the mental commands your designated clone has been giving, but the machine seems to be growing impatient.

cont.
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>>3000724
So these are like the prototype of the enemy Elizabeth encountered at Nowhere

Man, the Void loves their crystal aesthetic
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This world must be absolutely ancient, this is pretty incredible.
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>>3000735
>tfw we can't give it the mothers love the machine desires.
Now I just feel sad.
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>>3000735
More language samples to attempt Thinker translation then.

Really want to bring those dead gyrospheres onto a shuttle back to the lab...
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>>3000748
What's the chance they fully disintegrate then acidify through the ship?
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I just hope we can understand/translate this language soon.
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>>3000750
I think we may need a machines help for that.
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>>3000749
>>3000748
Maybe we should deactivate the machine. It's easier to understand something if we can get it intact rather then look at the scrap metal after.
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>>3000751
But it requires a psionic interferance.
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>>3000751

Nah we don't. Translating is so easy we don't need a machine for it.
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A thinker translated human speech in about a day right?
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>>3000751
That has never been necessary to figure out a language before. Thinkers have always cracked it. Ralighan, Phantom. Human language was done by a single Thinker, even.
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>>3000761
don't forget the skyl's trade language
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>>3000735
The grooves pulse again, sending a rainbow pattern of light along the electromagnetic spectrum as it covers the entire chamber, momentarially lighting up like rows of circuitry on a computer chip, bathing the chamber in broad range electromagnetic radiation, and instantly you sense a sudden and sharp shift in tone as the room emanates a wave of surprised, but controlled hate, like the sensation of discovering a wild animal in one's home. Four dark marble pillars suddenly emerge from around the bowl along the rim of the floating rings above as the map of combat shrinks, and the mercury it was using flows into a new form, showing entire constellations, each with a miniature, not-to-scale depiction of the system's contents.

You identify most of the map as local space, but the stars are slightly changed, their drift unaccounted for. This map is easily a million years old judging by the differential in the star placement, and a hologram suddenly highlights what you recognize as the Eye of Wrath with a circle of alien letters in pulsing fashion. The pulsing is in perfect rhythm, matching the psionic frequency of the facility on Sanctorium. The map zooms in on the system, showing the system as Sanctorium is highlighted by the pulse, and innumerable blips marked as hostile show where your hive fleets are located. Holographic images of the strange silicate drones suddenly appear, and there is a report showing a triplex DNA structure and an image of the corvette that was torn apart and devoured surrounded by more alien text.

The DNA image is difficult to interpret given the circumstances, but you immediately recognize the genetic code of your corvette, crudely analyzed and displayed, several markers common to all Hive life forms are highlighted and you suddenly feel a mental alarm, like a growing panic. The marble obelisks begin to shriek, and the clone relaying the psionic data over the radio suddenly drops to his knees in agony, his hands gripping his abdomen where your parasite writhes in pain.

Outside the structure, you see its sides reform once more, this time the corners slide open, the walls unfolding like an opening flower as long obelisks rise up from the corners and then fall into a pyramidal shape linking with each other at the apex. At the moment of contact, your fleets sense a sudden, mind aching psionic signal suddenly lash out into interstellar space as your clones see the map within highlight a new system, Old One's Promise, the hologram flashing over the planet of Waypath.

>Bombard the structure
>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
>Wait and see what happens
>Other (write in)
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>>3000766
>Other
Stop the machine.
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>>3000766
>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
Damn can't let them activate any more of their kind. Do we have any psionic scramblers nearby?
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>>3000766

>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
We should prepare the bombardment as well, should our clones fail we nuke it from orbit.
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>>3000766
>>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
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>>3000766
>>3000769
Shut that fucker down. We should keep it intact if at all possible, would be hard to get anything out of this if we obliterate the thing.

Also, I love the details and descriptions you put into things. They sound like they could actually be real.
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>>3000766

Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
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>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber

Prepare to bombard it if that doesn't help.
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Scavengers CONFIRMED for Void tools.
Silicon life CONFIRMED for Void fuckery.
Void CONFIRMED for being AI-equivalent.
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>>3000766
>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
It's amazing to think we could've come here so much sooner and not had this option.
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>We've awoken this universe's equivalent of the Necrons
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>>3000766
>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber

Well whatever the Scavs ancient are they definetly don't like the Hive. Glad to confirm that the scavs are also another alien race uplifted by the void.
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>>3000766
>>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chamber
And prep bombardment if that fails.
The clones all have heavy equipment so hopefully this will work

Also, I *really* hope this fucker isn't telling all the scavs to come and attack our capital. That would be sad.
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>>3000766
>Have your clones destroy the obelisks within the chambe

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>3000786
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>>3000783
And to think this bullshit was right next to us.
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>>3000786
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Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>3000786
FOR MOTHER
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Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>3000786
Oh mother please not another Nowhere incident.
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>>3000791
YES

YESSS
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>>3000784
The Scav ancients are either old forms for the Void (since Mom described the old Void as sillicates) or at a minimum old void slaves. It is unlikely yet another precursor race will be revealed. In any event, it's dangerous and there is a high risk it could provoke an attack on the queen.
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>>3000785
I think that it's more likely summoning the void.

Well Now that the Scavs are confirmed Void whorshipers we are kicking our war with then right? Glad we sended a fleet to the Commonwealth capitol.
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>3000774
Agreed the details are awesome. Also, imagine how much more fucked we would have been if we had Hive drones investigate directly.

>>3000791
Whew lad, you may have just saved us.

>>3000786
Rolling for shits and giggles (I know it's too late) just to see what would have happened.
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>>3000793
The fact that this race has psionics makes me thing this is actually the Void before ascending
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>>3000797
>mostly average rolls and now this

Why would you do this.
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Rolled 28 (1d100)

>>3000797
that kinda stings
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>>3000797
What did you expect to happen other than stealing our future roll
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>>3000797
Now i feel bad for rolling.
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>>3000796
You know this is actually pretty good propaganda for us. We can tell the CW the scavs are attacking them under the direction of one of our ancient enemies and ask if they would like to form an alliance against the greater threat. It even has the benefit of being true.

>>3000798
That seems logical to me. The Void prior to ascention may have even been a construct, seeing as this structure has functioned somewhat similarly to a rudimentary AI.
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>>3000806
>can't wait to talk with space pope and ask if he wants to have a space crusade, against space satan minions
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>>3000785
That's stupid. It obviously isn't worried about itself and its own location. It's panicked about the fleet near Sanctorium. It's tattling on them.

The Scavs will realize the information from the computers at Waypath probably and then the fleet is fucked soon enough.
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>>3000793
No. The enemy used silicate machines. Nobody has ever described the enemy as anything except a vast mind. And something about a great sphere.
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When are those heavy fleets under construction ready?
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>>3000786
Your clones hold up their weapons and release a torrent of chitinous slugs, particle beams, and plasma bolts. The slugs twist and bend, curving around the pillars and impacting the wall behind them as the plasma plumes too early, the flames bending around the pillars as if stopped by some unseen wall, and the particle beams twist like swinging rope, curving enough to just graze the surface of the pillars. One of your clones tosses his weapon aside and charges forward with his combat blade, quickly running into a wall of psychokinetic force. He pushes forward, his blade fighting against it as the field struggles to push him back. The others follow, the magnetic claws of their armored feet anchoring into the ground step by step. As your clones get closer and closer to their targets, the force becomes greater. Chunks of armor tear off their suits and antenna twist and are ripped from the helmet by the roots as a growing layer of conductive energy begins to flow around the pillars as if it were coated in layers of superconductors, the energy becoming visible as a thin wall of force glows against the vibroblade of your clone. He pushes against it, the top of the blade cracking slightly as it continues to push forward, until it snaps in half. He tosses the hilt aside, the discarded chunks sent flying across the room like the round of a railgun, and he pulls out a hardlight sabre, quickly thrusting the humming blade of massive photons into the glowing field of conductive energy and psionic force. The blade cracks, again and again, rapidly rebuilding as more photons are added to the blade, and piece by piece it seems to work its way through, and you see the field crack and break open like a shattered window, and the clone plunges the sword into the surface of the obelisk, swinging it out from the deep wound to slice it through the middle.

The obelisk collapses, the strange substance suddenly growing silent, and one by one the others fall as well. Your designated psionic clone collapses, his body shaking, his face pale and covered in sweat as he breathes as if he had sprinted a marathon. Your clones look up at the display to the blips above, and you realize your thinker commanded drones have won, although with great costs. The display is met with a growing sense of panc, a clinical, controlled panic, as if to signal the execution of a well planned contingency.

On either side of the bowl a large, the floor opens and a large, flat stone arm swings up and claps over the bowl, each arm holding half a small metallic hollow sphere. The mercury within the rotating rings above suddenly are pulled back into the rings and the arms extend up into their center, releasing the sphere and retracting as the rings begin to rotate more quickly, each one conducting more and more psionic energy as they spin around like a massive gryro faster and faster. Above, the ceiling cracks open, segments unfolding and sliding in place as the entire roof opens.

cont.
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>>3000814
Cluster did said the other race used silicate liveforms to build it's tools and everything. This planet is obviously some king of foward station or some base that the Void lefted after winning the war against the Hive's.

But i must say i find some schadenfreude from seing the crystals reeing when they see our fleet blocking the path of another of their slave races.
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>>3000812
It definitely seems more worried about Sanctorium now, but how long will it be until it realized a hive throne world (or at least a major outpost) is sharing a system with it?

In any event, it needs to get destroyed before it can share most of the pertinent information. If this world relays it's information to the Old One's Promise, there's no way of knowing whether that information will be limited to the scavs, or if it will also be shared with other Void servants.
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>>3000821
The Enemy lost the war. The Skyl won against the ancient hives however.
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>>3000820
What.the. fuck.
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>>3000820
Damn so a self destruct now? These things are annoyingly hard to pacify without destroying their tech.
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>>3000824
That is wrong you should read the quest again.The Skyl got genocided by the void anon. The hives only lost because the void corrupted worst aunt.
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>>3000827
I think it's doing the same thing that it did with the Skyl home world. I guess if anyone wanted a proof of what the Void a enemy of the Hive can do we have enough proof.
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>>3000820
>your thinker commanded drones have won, although with great costs. The display is met with a growing sense of panc, a clinical, controlled panic, as if to signal the execution of a well planned contingency.

Might as well get in contact with the drones again. If we had gotten them to retreat or die, wonder what would be going on now instead.

The roof opening suggests it might be escaping via FTL launch. Ifit can't transmit, it can still be a messenger.
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>>3000828
No I read the quest. The Ancient Hives won the war against the Enemy so they resorted to use Skyl to destroy the ancient hive while they turtled.
This is how it's been explained.
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>>3000828
He said ANCIENT hives. Not sorta-recent hives.
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>>3000820
Well the clones managed to do something, at least. Hopefully they can still stop the facility from doing... whatever it's doing.

>>3000824
>>3000828

The silicates lost the war, but then they ascended to become the Void and used the Skyl and powerful psionic attacks to defeat the crippled remaining ancient queens. The new queens under the White and Black queens defeated the Skyl, but didn't destroy the "anchor" that kept the Void a presence. The young queens got complacent, the OQ got corrupted, and the Void used the Ceph to attack canon-fodder while consuming a few planets and queens personally in the struggle.
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>>3000835
No they destroyed an "anchor" but didn't manage to destroy the Enemy home world.
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>>3000820
The inner walls of the chamber split and slide inward, floating into the air as they begin to spin around the rings, each surface bouncing the increasingly potent psionic force from its surface like light from a mirror, amplifying the wave into a growing cyclone of kinetic energy.

Your clones dive for cover, running from the growing torrent as one of them feels a sudden weightlessness, and the sensation spreads, the other clones losing their grip as they first float in the sensation of zero gravity, and then are pulled upwards, as if the gravity had flipped. You watch through the radio transmission as one of the clones is pulled into the psychokinetic cyclone and is flung upwards and out of the structure, and then another follows, slamming into the spinning wall in the process as a limb is torn off from the impact. The growing energy field sends them each airborne, flying up in all directions with varying levels of injury until the force reaches a critical mass, and the spinning ring structure is catapulted into the air, rapidly accelerating to escape velocity in an instant as a funnel of psionic force is projected skyward, the rotating mirror-like walls flying outwards like an exploding centrifuge, shattering into pieces as they impact the rest of the structure's walls.

As the rotating gyroscope of spinning rings exits the funnel it begins to... drift. The psionic energy rapidly drains like an unplugged lightbulb, and the rings destabilize, shattering as they impact one another and obliterating the carefully choreographed pattern of rotation, and the metal sphere within drifts into orbit, slowly falling apart into unattached segmented metal plates, empty, and lifeless.

You have your shuttles deploy airborne drones to recover your wounded and provide medical attention, and you begin bringing your ships back within psionic range of the planet to reconnect with the drones.

>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>Bombard the structure, to be safe
>Other

>Destroy the rings in orbit
>Salvage the rings in orbit
>Other
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>>3000837
>>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>Salvage the rings in orbit

And retake those samples we lost in the pod. We should also start a Hive here as soon as possible to exploit the sugar resource.
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>>3000837
>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>Salvage the rings in orbit
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>>3000837
>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure

>Destroy the rings in orbit
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>>3000837
>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>Salvage the rings in orbit
I can just imagine the frustrated chittering noises the queen is making right now.
>>3000840
Seconding immediate colonization.
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>>3000837
>>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>>Salvage the rings in orbit

I can't imagine just how amazingly bad this would have been had we actually gotten around to exploring this planet when we first started out.
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>3000820
>The obelisk collapses, the strange substance suddenly growing silent, and one by one the others fall as well.

Hope they can take those collapsed obelisks and fly home with em, c'mon.

Oh too late.
>>3000837
>>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>>Salvage the rings in orbit

Maybe don't take them to Leeland, study them in the newly colonized P3 or something, very separately.
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>>3000837
>>>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>>>Salvage the rings in orbit
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>>3000846
We could you know...just study then in the freaking planet we just found?
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>>3000844
Considering we wouldn't have human clones and photonic blades?

Absurdly bad.
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>>3000837
>>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>Salvage the rings in orbit
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>>3000837
>Other
Build a psychic shroud around this planet first, then begin salvage operations.
The only way to salvage this "safely" is to store all the void stuff under our protective shroud, and that puts it in direct contact with the queen. I'll probably be outvoted, but I think that's too risky. We should wait a few days until we can block out the planet and study it in place.
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>>3000863
We'd need another dead black crystal.
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>>3000782
And to think if only we had come here when anon first wanted to investigate P2, before we violated Sanctorium's airspace and aggro'd the psychic moons, there wouldn't have been that superpanic interstellar alert, either.
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>>3000861
Oh it would have just been a complete and utter shit-show. Hell, even with our advanced technology it would have been terrible if we had just used advanced drones to investigate today instead of the human clones.
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>>3000863
It's fucking dead, inert, whatever you want to call it. We don't have to worry about it doing shit.
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>>3000866
>We'd need another dead black crystal.
We'd have a new dead one already if the Union hadn't decided to play games with our demands for Void Shards. This is another reason why we need to push them hard here.
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>You watch through the radio transmission as one of the clones is pulled into the psychokinetic cyclone and is flung upwards and out of the structure, and then another follows, slamming into the spinning wall in the process as a limb is torn off from the impact.

>as a limb is torn off

Well one of our human clones just gonna get a new augmented limb.
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>>3000872
Can it be spencer's bionic arm?
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>>3000876
I just looked for the first image i could find. But sure i don't mind.
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>>3000837
Well don't forget the gyrodrones' bodies.
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>>3000882
i think the only thing lefed from it are rings?
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>>3000837
>Have your drones begin salvaging the remains of the structure
>Salvage the rings in orbit

Your drones begin picking through the remains. The interior of the structure, apart from being left open and roofless, is surprisingly intact. Your drones quickly collect and begin cataloging the various chunks of debris, and tagging the various objects found within the structure with mental notes as they slowly begin to tear it apart. The process of deconstruction is surprisingly difficult, a testament to the durability of the structure's walls, which you find to be a lattice of carbon alloy reinforced with a molecular mortar, so to speak, of silicate genetic analog mesh. The full qualities of this material will require additional research, but in the meantime your thinkers are fascinated by the remains of the obelisks, a kind of silicon-carbon hybrid. The obelisk, as well as the rings, though to a lesser degree, seem to be... alive, in some manner of speaking. Though they lack organs, blood, genetic code, or really anything, as they are both a solid state material, the carbon based alloys within are capable of conducting tachyons as well as any advanced hive relay. Slightly better, actually, with an efficiency-by-weight slightly above your own.

Buried beneath the floor, however, your workers find a massive subterranean structure consisting of many stacked solid state silicon platforms of highly efficient superconducting material. It still seems to be active, but it does not respond to your efforts to contact it, and it seems incapable of independent perceptions of the outside world, nor does it possess any inherent psionic capacity, its components being entirely inorganic.

cont.
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>>3000888
New Research Subjects unlocked[/b[

>Silicate hybrid study
Slow
This obelisk remains would seem to be composed of semi-organic psionically conductive carbon polymer fused with a silicate genetic lattice, in effect making it a kind of hybrid between two, as yet diametrically opposed forms of life. A detailed study is required to determine its qualities with any certainty, but its nature is truly confounding.

>Living Stone
Medium
Structures made of living silicate matter has never occured to you, but it makes sense, as despite being applied to the natural inverse of organic life, it would seem to apply similar benefits to any structure using the material. All the same, you are not by far not an expert on silicate life forms, and anything it the field will be difficult to make headway with.

>Silicate Computing
Slow
A far cry from the rudimentary silicon computer chips of the single-minded, proper silicate computing seems to comprise of a sentient or near-sentient mind on a similar level to that of a hive thinker housed within an efficient solid state slab of living silicate flesh using the DNA analog mesh it is composed of as circuitry. The power efficiency is near perfect, allowing it to function as its own battery for extended periods of time while giving off almost no waste heat.

>Silicate Defenders dissection
Medium
A clearly artificially designed silicon based life form, this devout defender is capable of projecting hardlight constructs in battle, as well as possessing multiple blasters within its body. Its internal organs are arranged in a gyroscope, allowing for rapid movement with or without the use of its projected limbs. In many ways, they seem almost purpose built for countering traditional hive tactics and weaponry.
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>>3000892
>Swap out a research subject
>Continue researching
>Other
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>>3000892
>Continue researching
We need more slots.
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>The grooves pulse again, sending a rainbow pattern of light along the electromagnetic spectrum as it covers the entire chamber, momentarially lighting up like rows of circuitry on a computer chip, bathing the chamber in broad range electromagnetic radiation

>lighting up like rows of circuitry on a computer chip, bathing the chamber in broad range electromagnetic radiation

i guess this is how the Void controls the creatures dependent of it's technology? Sending eletronic waves to psionicly control technology?
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>>3000892
>>Continue researching
What about the Sugar/not sugar?
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>>3000895
>other
Open joint research with Theseus
Starting with
>Silicate Defenders
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>>3000895
>Continue researching

If this means that there's another outpost like this one on Sanctuary, then we could potentially pacify those planetary defenses with a concentrated planetary bombardment.

Wait... does this mean that our home system might have been the next pit stop for the scavs if we hadn't done anything regarding them or P2?
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>>3000895
>>Continue researching

We're not an expert, but maybe we can make other silicate research easier by starting with simpler basics in the silicate tree first.
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>>3000895
>Continue researching
As fascinating as this is, I'm not willing to sacrifice our existing research for this.

Soon, though.

Soon.
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>>3000904
What this guy said.
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>>3000892
>Continue researching

We need to advance psionic imprint if we are really going to compromise our spy network with the humans.

>>3000903
Possibly yeah.
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>>3000909
We need a special protein to allow interfacing of organic tech with silicon tech so Hybrid is your best bet.
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>>3000911
We should first get the basics for silicate life though, so that we go faster through all the silicate tech, rather than having to go through everything without the basics.

Then we can go through the hybrid research, and make some half-silicate quantum thinkers interfacing with proper silicate computing for maximum research boosts.
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>make other silicate research easier by starting with simpler basics in the silicate tree first.

I think that is what the Living Stone research is.
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>>3000900
The crop fields seem to be rather stable, you could harvest them if you choose to settle the planet.
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>>3000917
Yeah boi! Silicate non-sugar sweetener, here we come!
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>>3000914
>Then we can go through the hybrid research, and make some half-silicate quantum thinkers interfacing with proper silicate computing for maximum research boosts.

And then we can finnaly be one with Theseus and Heretic
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>>3000920
The Triumvirate Rises!
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>>3000895
Just to be sure since there was some mention of it.

>Continue research
>Request Theseus joint research switch its focus (write in)
>Other
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>>3000922
>>Continue research
>Other

Begin colonization
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>>3000922
>Request Theseus joint research switch its focus (Data encryption)
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>>3000917
>>3000918
Can finnaly bake that cake or make our tooth brush less disgusting lile Lee asked us to.

OH SHIT!! HIVE BAKERY!!
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>>3000922
>Request Theseus joint research switch its focus
Silicate Computing

Something tells me this is a field where he would be much, much more useful than organic tech, and something he'd have A LOT of interest in. You know, to upgrade ALL of Theseus.
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>>3000922
>Continue research

Theseus and Heretic are good friends but honestly we've withheld psionics from Theseus for good reason, and I see no reason to stop.

The risk of Theseus becoming Void 2.0 if he peers into the void is too real.
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>>3000926
>FormOther pastries! 100% less sugar, with the same good taste you know and love! (may contain non-organic silicate sweeteners)
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>>3000922
Sure support this:>>3000927

We are allies after all
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>>3000927
The tech he's researching gives him bonuses to fighting against the Black Queen.
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>>3000927
My issue is him learning too much about psionics and causing a void breakout in him.
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>>3000934
Maybe, but upgrading him first would give him more of an advantage, and speed up his other research later on.
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>>3000935
Well i wonder if the difference is like how we can't catch a computer virus, maybe Theseus will be incapable of catching a psionic virus.

I wouldn't be too upset if he helped.
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>>3000922
Continue research
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>>3000931
>We're still allies
Your point? We could research it ourself and sell it to him or we could get him to join the hive along with Heretic.
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>>3000935
Perhaps, yes, but it seems like there's a stage between silicate computing and silicate psionics, and we could make it very clear to him that that step is too dangerous while the Void is still out there.

>>3000931
We're not just allies, he was our second friend in the whole universe!
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>>3000922
>continue research
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>>3000922
>Request Theseus joint research switch its focus (write in)
>Silicate Computing

>>3000929
This isn't even touching psionics but rather the mundane physical aspects .
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>>3000922
Changed my mind to
>Request Theseus joint research switch its focus (write in)
Silicate computing
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I think the real issue is we just don't know what will happen to theseus if we go down this path. Him being all but blind to tachyonic signals is a huge benefit for future research like the canon.
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>>3000922
I'll switch >>3000924
To silicate computing

I still want the colonization
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>>3000922
I'd say continue his research til completion and then bring him in on one of these but...

>Switch to Silicate Computing

That obelisk and silicate computing would be MASSIVE upgrades for him
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>>3000941
I've had a theory that greater complexity in a "brain" makes an entity more vulnerable to psionics. Remember psionics can mess with delicate sensors to create "hallucinations"
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>>3000922
>Continue research
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>>3000922
>Switch Theseus Joint research to Silicate Computing

And I think that will have to be all for tonight, since it's just about six in the morning. I'll stick around for a bit for any questions, comments, ect, and may have some time for discussion intermittently tomorrow. Next thread should be this Sunday, so long as work schedule permits, and I asked for halloween off for a planned midweek thread.
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>>3000956
>Halloween thread
Gonna get spooky
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>>3000952
Perhaps, but psionics affect non-sentients and sentient organic life equally.
And from what we've discovered, the Void were once a race of silicates that worked more similarly to the Cluster with silicates in the galaxy, until something happened and they had their psionic transcendence.

So it seems more that something more is necessary for silicates to go into or even be affected by psionics, while even organics that have been tailor-made to be resistant/completely psionically blind like Humans can still be interacted with and affected with psionics.
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>>3000949
>>3000950
From what I've seen in quest this might actually make him vulnerable to void fuckery. The Enemy has shown they can fuck with complex and delicate tech systems like sensors and possibly silicate brain. There is evidence of this when we raided the labs on Path.
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>>3000956
>>3000961
It'll be a Hive and CW vs Scav battle solely from the pov of common human grunts on the frontline, scared shitless by both their allies and enemies.
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>>3000963
fuck meant to link
>>3000960
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>>3000956
Thanks for running dude
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>>3000963
Imagine the battle scenes from Starship Troopers but the Bugs are your allies
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>>3000961
Because most "silicates" we've dealt with so far have been glorified desktop computers. The enemy obviously would struggle to hack into a brick with their minds.
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>>3000950
We need the Obelisk and Living Stone, and then Theseus can be truly "alive", to be warmly embraced by his "creator" mom Elizabeth and his new mom Red Queen together, as their formerly-artifical child.
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>>3000956
Love your work QD, thanks for running!
Followed the thread even during work, though couldn't post before because the network fucks up capcha or something.
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>>3000956
thanks for running.

Hoping for a fun and spooky halloween thread.
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>>3000916
It is not remotely simple It's psionic and changes shape.

Lithovores might be.
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>>3000952
It doesn't affect sensors. It affects brains.
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>>3000962
It's still a bit unclear just how different Theseus' quantum computing requirement is from whatever the Void used/uses.

The Void is probably some kind of AI-equivalent (but crystal-powered) that ended up locking itself in a singularity or something. This is the race that created Canderon, so I imagine it had a great understanding of singularities. Light can't escape, but tachyons can, so that is all it has and why it needs slave races. I wonder why exactly the conflict first started, but ultimately it doesn't matter why: we just have to see it through to the end. I just hope we won't end up with the same kind of conflict again. Or worse, time shenanigans.
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>>3000975
>>3000916
>>3000892
Hmm.. looking at it...
Maybe we could, through the combination of Silicate Computing, Silicon Hybrid study, Living Stone, whatever the Lithovore vivisection will give us, and our research on the living liquid carbon nanomesh thing create a living body for Theseus.
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>>3000983
And, well, at the core of it, as powerful a defensive move as jumping into a singularity has been for the void, it also gave them a massive vulnerability where we could close them off from reality almost entirely if we find their "anchor" into the world and destroy it.
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>switching Theseus's slot
Theseus's current joint research hasn't even produced anything, even in about two weeks of game time.
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>>3000987
He's trying to make sense of what is probably hostile hive biotech. I'd give the poor guy a break.
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>>3000956
Thanks for running QD!
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>>3000988
It's a joint project, he has an expert hive queen whispering suggestions in his ear 24/7.
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>>3000987
>>3000988
>>3000994
He's been doing his best, it's just that Hive biotech is literally millions of years beyond anything that humanity, valen, taldaren and ceph know in that field.

We practically handed an important problem in complex Quantum Atomic Physics to someone who just finished learning multiplications and division, and are trying to guide him through it.
It's slow, we knew it would take a while, and we're being patient.
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I suppose Theseus could *turn down* the research proposal, but somehow I doubt that will happen.
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>>3000998
"Hey Theseus, I know you've been working hard on studying our enemy's biotech that you barely understand, but I came across this silicate computing technology literally lightyears ahead of anything you or your creators could ever think of in a million years. What do you say, would you like to put the biotech on hold for now to study this?"
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>>3001002
Seconding offering Theseus a choice between staying his research course and researching this new silicate computing thing.
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>>3000998
We would need to make sure these are some extremely isolated Theseus instances in quarantine and not in regular communication with 01. Otherwise this is a perfect vector for void corruption.
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>>3001146
it's just a new form of computing though, isn't it? i don't think anyone wants to nullify unity's unique 100% immunity.
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>>3001177
It seems a number of anons are afraid that this living silicate computing is the missing step between a robotic mind and psionics, and therefore the Void.

I, personally, feel that there must be a step between this advanced silicate computing and the Void's psionic ascendance.
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>>3001177
It turns a computer into a "brain" more or less. I assume the complexity gives a greater potential for shit being fucked up by psionics and the "better way to compute" only solidly applies to hive drones which can't be mind controlled by design.
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>>3001201
Did you miss the part where the Enemy fucked with a nonorganic ship's sensors to make it record the images of a ship one of crew rode in the past? That entire thing proved that being "silicon based" is far from a perfect defense but it does bring up the question of why fuck with just the sensor.
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>>3001205
Well, it's not that our drones can't be hijacked, it's more that they're designed to automatically shut down if anyone else actually does manage to hijack them.

>>3001209
Eh... if that is the case, that the Enemy was messing with the inorganic ship rather than the perception of every single organic on board, then it might not be worth it to leave Theseus blind and completely defenseless if the Enemy brings the full force of its psyche against his unprotected circuits.
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>>3000968
True, but they have also led the Scav armada and the Void has managed to “hack” many queens. Complacency or a lack of caution when it comes to exploring the void-silicate boundary could get us or our allies killed.

>>3000969
That would be nice, but it would also make Theseus susceptible to void corruption which can only effect the living. His immunity to their “sight” is one of his greatest assets and shouldn’t be surrendered lightly.

>>3000983
This is mostly accurate.
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>>3001225
Theseus's supposed void immunity has been one of the reasons why we've practically brought him 100% into our war council, but, if the anons are correct and the Enemy can affect non-organics with some effort, then we might want to upgrade Theseus up to psionic potential, so that he might start erecting some peychic defenses for himself, dedicating some resources 24/7 to protect his serverships, 0-1, and his drones.
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>>3001201
>It seems a number of anons are afraid that this living silicate computing is the missing step between a robotic mind and psionics, and therefore the Void.
Yeah, this is what I’m afraid of. It might not be the case, but we don’t know for sure. Without certain knowledge of whether or not this research could make Theseus vulnerable, we should assume it is a danger and proceed accordingly using limited and isolated Theseus processes for the research. It is slower, but the risk of corruption, however slim, is so dangerous we must make every reasonable effort to limit it.
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>>3001232
Understandable.
And if it turns out to make him susceptible, we terminate said instances and limit the tech to our own psychically adapted and protected Thinkers.
If it doesn't, then there's really nothing against upgrading all of Theseus, is there?

We'll have to see.
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We should try to develop a way to create a canned psionic message. That way if we find another place that seems like it has remnants of the silicate member of the Three, then we could use our clones to use the device to communicate without risk to ourselves. I kind of want to find some silicates that arnt as anathema to us as the Void so we can bring the gang back together with the clusters. Plus, having an ally who is intimately aware of the voids past would be valuable.

Another thing, we really REALLY need to find out what argument caused the Schism. If it is what still motivates the Void, then figuring it out will be the best way of understanding the void without psionically looking at it.
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>>3001258
Honestly, if it's just "Silicate is better than Carbon." "Nuh uh." "Uh huh." or something similar, I would advocate for hijacking the Ceph's giant Void Shard, cracking a normal one to provoke and bring the Void, and then use the giant one as ammo for a psionic cannon.
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>>3001341
I think it's that just look it's reaction when it "scanned" the room were pur agents were;

>"...instantly you sense a sudden and sharp shift in tone as the room emanates a wave of surprised, but controlled hate, like the sensation of discovering a wild animal in one's home."

>like the sensation of discovering a wild animal in one's home.

Which means it hates anything that isn't a silicate life form or think carbon lifeforms are inferior to it.
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>>3001366
Either that or it detected the parasite inside one of our agents, since the parasite immediately started writhing in pain shortly afterwards.
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>>3001383
I think it was more his response to the lack of technology or in this case, silicate components our clones had on then.

Also on the subject ot the amount of Void shards the Union has with then we have

>Two additional active artifacts have been recovered and moved to deep storage during the standard operation of civilian assisted cleanup of Earth orbit.

>It is believed all artifacts have been secured. Six artifacts have been recovered, each classifying into one of two types. On site teams have classified the artifacts as either active or inactive,

With each putted in:

>The following requests have been approved by the Union Research and Development division: One active artifact shall be delivered to Tenebrous research facility (Doom Gate) for functional material research. Four active artifacts shall be delivered to Olympus Shipards Pluto research and development facility for starship materials development(Mirage). One active artifact shall be delivered to Tadega military testing facility site 15 for military application testing under Prometheus Initiative (No idea what this is. Maybe that was what they were doing with Lee in the psionic research?)
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>>3001522
Ah i found it Prometheus are the researchers looking ibto Void Cutter tech. I guess there is indeed a chance for another breach then.
>"Yea. I got the paperwork here." Your tech says. "The Prometheus Initiative. Looks like it's an ongoing salvage project. They've been studying scraps from recovered Void Cutters. Actually, it looks like this team has been working real close with the Project Phantom team. This lab is for materials testing, looks like they were running some kind of stress test for the other lab."
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>>2960146
>Surrounding the planet Sanctorium is a stranger sight still, the Sentinel Brothers, an astronomic coincidence of astronomical rarity, these four small dwarf planets somehow have come to occupy the Lagrange points L2, L3, L4, and L5 of Sanctorium, each planet following the larger world in a lockstep orbit around the star.


L3 is on the whole other dang side of the star system, it's nowhere near following the planet, it's the opposite, constantly staying as far away from it as possible.

Did QD dun goofed.
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>>3001531
If the Union still claims they don’t have the Void shards or Ceph artifacts, we could send chimeras to attack the facility and make off with everything of value. It would be a surgical strike and (probably) unlikely to lead to open war, but it would also show we have a very low tolerance for bullshit.

Also, it’s been a couple weeks since we asked the CW to turn over any and all salvage/artifacts from the mirage they uncover in exchange for our military aid. We should probably follow up with them to see if the CW has recovered any of the four Void shards on the Mirage.
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>>3001584
Correct, but it is still in formation with the others. Given their defensive capabilities, it seems that the formation is considered a near optimal formation to maintain full view of the system while having all component defenders maintaining visual contact with at least one other.
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>>3001646
Still think we done at least two bad choices in this threaf. Forstly was putting the blame on Decker by possibly revealling our parasites while we could have told that it was Decker and Anderson who found out about Lyle being on Aral, were the team was ambushed.

And also because if we ask for more void shards now we won't be able to find out the location of the two active shards that they are hidding in deep containment. So maybe it would ha e being more smart to keep our own investigation.
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>>3001584
So Heretic says these guys have nothing to do with their gods...

But they're clearly the silicate mining lifeforms the Crystals left over, as referenced by our various ancient sources.

So why did the Crystals switch from using these badasses to using primitives like the Skyl...even though these badasses are still around?

Is it possible that the Hives won way back when, annihilated the Crystals, and that our current foe is something entirely different? Or is their use of slave races just similar to our fall from grace?
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>>3001914
Also it seems like we've been wise to leave avenues for allying with younger races open. Mainly because our ancient foes and those related to them are simply too well specced out for fighting us for us to be militarily successful against them without having the benefits of scale our ancestors did.
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>>3001002
Supporting tjis, we should make this a suggestion.
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>>3001818
I agree Decker was probably misplayed, but I think demanding the missing Void shards was probably the right move given they already know we have high level intelligence. Not demanding the Void shards would make them think they can hide Void research from us. We need to make them anticipate that if they do anything Void related, we will know whether it be because we “heard the screaming” or otherwise.

Also, we avoided some huge blunders this session. Sending the humans to investigate the crystalline structures and only having a single one monitor psionics with a parasite was 100% the right call. We turned a potential Nowhere level disaster in our FUCKING CAPITAL, into a research bonanza and major nutrient boost. We also confirmed the Scavs are working for the Void or at least are being directed by a Void created construct. Things could have gone WAY worse than they did.

We need to be careful not to get complacent, however. Being cautious saved our ass big-time, and we shouldn’t spoil this by risking Theseus to a potential infection vector. While I agree we should definitely research this together, we must have failsafes in place so that if a crit-fail happens and a Theseus instance becomes corrupted, we can still prevent it from damaging or crippling the greater Unity.
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>>3002306
I guess that's true. Hopefully once Morgan get his mind checked Jack will realize that touching void stuff is bad. Since we told Morgan that talking or researching about our enemies attracts it's attention and the people in Nowhere trued to summon it because they end up understanding to much about the Void.

Even so, the people doing the research on the void cutter weapon? They are either using a void shard or using the artificial Canderon on it (because in the video is mentioned a blue oval case that was putted in the weapon to fire it) so depending how long this thing with the bombarment last we might need to move on our own to stop any possible outbreak
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Cyberpunk Detective Quest sequel when?
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>thread 57
>the Hive chastises humans for poking the strange crystals without knowing what they do
>thread 68
>Hive almost majorly fucks up and activates the Halo rings because they poked the strange crystals they don't understand
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>>3003284
Quote the post where we voted to construct a crystalline pentagram and pull a void god through a hole in space. I'll wait.
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>>3003296
now you mention it that doesn't sound like too bad an idea.....
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i would atleast have voted to not attack the escort we where getting
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>>3003284
So what the Scavs are the Covenant?

We are still way better equiped to prevent that bullshit from happening unlike the humans.
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I just realize that the Obisidian Creep has being growing for four entire threads...if aunt is as competent as we are in planet warfare Path is doomed.
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>>3003376
I have a sneaking suspicion the Halloween thread will involce Gilliam and Co wandering around the Path underground in the dark after the gravity attack blew their power and communications, and then running into OQ creep.
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>>3003376
>>3003499
Part of me is coping that regional containment fails and the planet has to be evacuated. Then we could get brownie points by heroically saving the last pockets of people on the planet and finally...FINALLY, use our most devastating and horrifying weapons.
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>>3003527
>When it's to late Norris turns to our drone and ask what we should do to containg the threat.

>Speaker suggestion is bombarment from orbit followed by atomization and finaly using a World Destruction weaponry.

Man won't Killinger feel bad for wasting those gravitic missiles when that happens?
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>>3003546
Even in Killinger's survivable worst case, he can just blame other people for being unwilling to do what's necessary to fight the obsidian creep. He has outs even if he could get caught red handed. I don't think he'll ever feel bad about what he's doing, because it's always the right thing for him to do. He's got 0% repentance for everything so far, he'll just keep finding other people to blame for his mistakes.

I gotta wonder if Jack's getting tired of his shit, more than he's showing anyways.
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>>3004607
i wasn't mentioning the feel bad as in having regret for the people that would die. More like he missed a huge oportunity to increase his popularity, the military will need to divert ro deal with this creep and the Hive gets a boost in their pr campai g for helping the people in Path.

Good side of this? Maybe Jack will realize we aren't so indifferent for toward the humams once he sees that the Hive is helping and once he read Morgan's memories from his conversation with Lee.

And pic related is what i expect to happen on Path with the Obisidian creep
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>>3004647
Ah it didn't uploaded the image...
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>>3004647
>>3004651
>New Tokyo
>gets tentacle raped
Fitting
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I wish people voted for sending hive troops to fight the creep. Hell hybrids with super sentai armor running around fighting the creep would have been the best PR. Of course now we'll take the blame for the creep infestation because people will think we're responsible when they see it.
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>>3005604
In case you didn't read we were making a offer. There was no guarantee they would accept it specialy so we they wouldn't like to look bad about the creep

The meeting we had with Morgan also mrntioned that people are already pacnicking because if our armada sending a army of drones would just make things worst and make people spin that the creep is our fault even more.

We just offered humanitarian aid to Path once Norris and Gilliam report how much FUBAR the situation is with the Obisidian creep they will u derstand even more that they shouldn't mess with the Hive and Hive things. We also had already offered and Norris said that sebding drones would be a hard sell, with Humanitarian aid we can even grow some fast human clones and send then up to help as vollunteers and so increase the Hive popularity
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>>3005710
I sincerely doubt things will play out like you expect. If a single citizen finds out about that shit then it'll cause a lot of potential problems and worse yet if it becomes too noticeable people will likely come to the conclusion it was our fault. Also the I thought the ideas being brainstormed were shit anyway or at least mostly shit.
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>>3005956
And i sincerely doubt things will go the way you think it will go. If you though the ideas were so shit you should have come up with a better one anon mister wise guy.
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>>3006227
Just go in and fucking kill it with drones or use a disassembler to disintegrate it in a controlled manner. Dropping an Immolator is a PR disaster that will hurt us especially since we are talking about the most populated planet in the Union here, with the biggest tech industry, and we have vastly better options.
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>>3006604
That would work if people weren't already panicking about the Hive and having drones jump down after a nuclear attack will seem more like a invasion.

Going to path to give Humanitarian aid gives us the ability to get a good PR with the people in the planet. We also have already offered said aid and Norris said that it would be a hard sell to make since people are already afraid of the Hive.

You saw what it took for then to call us and ask for help about the Cluster. We already offered drones, they refused now we need to wait for then to try, realize they are fucked and then we can move.

If anything the Humanitarian aid gives us a exvuse to have Hive shuttles above the planet to distribute the food and whatever else we need to keep the humans in Path from rioting.
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>>3006627
Remember, we can also use, "humanitarian aid" to secretly disseminate military assets and other intelligence resources to Path now so that we will be in a better position to fight the OQ creep if and when the Union actually calls for aid in that arena. I agree that sending in the drones in a military sense would probably be terrible PR until requested.

>>3006604
I don't think anyone advocated dropping an immolator warhead on Path. That would just be asinine.
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>Remember, we can also use, "humanitarian aid" to secretly disseminate military assets and other intelligence resources to Path now so that we will be in a better position to fight the OQ creep if and when the Union actually calls for aid in that arena.

I agree not to mention the possible people we could adopt during this time. Lot's of people lost their home and having they come to the Hive is a possibility it also make us able to infiltrate human clones in the middle of the chaos.

Although after the meeting were Jack suspect that any possible drone could mind control the people near to it i doubt they will allow adtional drones on Path any time soon.
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>>3006678
The guy you are talking was discussing using the Immolator earlier and it sure didn't seem like a joke. Hell they seemed to show excitement over the idea of using "World Destruction weaponry"
>>3006706
Jack would approve of drone presence pretty quickly if we bother to mention that shit destroyed 3 Server Ships (I think that's the number at least). That gives a clear image of how bad shit is going to get.
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>>3006864
Dude that was a joke...you really think people would be dumb enough to drop a immolator on the world? We don't even know how deep into the planet OQ creep went. You shouldn't take everything that is said here seriously.

Jack knows that the Void destroyed one serve ship and we mentioned that the fight in Unity and Hive space was much bigger and intensive then the light show they saw above Path.

The problem is that he thinks we are being arrogant and trying to show force and he is currently dealling with Killinger dropping gravitic missiles in two of the most populated planets in the Union.
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>[Sentinel]
Sentinel Post: A staging area consisting of a five moderately sized military stations holding sensors, weapon platforms, and docks. A battleship and associated fleet is docked at each one, and use the stations as bases of operations to patrol the boarder to Commonwealth space.

Oh you cheeky bugger
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>>3001366
Its creators were almost certainly carbon-based biologicals. Sphere-shaped ones. Made those defenders in their image, and they fit inside the bowl-shaped depression.

P2 is a farm planet that farms a food that can only be eaten by carbon-based life, it's just done using silicate GMOs. They serve carbon-based masters. Or they were carbon based before they transcended the physical form.

It took a deliberate scan to realize they are not their spheroid masters. Wrong species, wrong shape.

Also, that intelligence almost definitely thought-casted itself away as its last contingency, it's still alive out there somewhere.

Of course we never found the 'mercury' that seemed to disappear inside the rings. The rings just show as living stone. Maybe that's still inside it. Maybe not.
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>>3007891
>sphere shaped
Wait a second what if they also had no limbs either and manipulated everything around them with psionics? Just floating round ball people with nothing but a brain and psionics as their tools.
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>Its creators were almost certainly carbon-based biologicals. Sphere-shaped ones. Made those defenders in their image, and they fit inside the bowl-shaped depression.

Could be but i somehow doubt it.I think these were old cintructs created by the void.Vluster even says in thread 65.4

>"What about the other of the Three?" You ask. The memory is blurred. It is ancient and vague. You see flashes of an ancient mind. A distant sphere, and beings of silicon.

>"They did not trade for our harvests. They did not alter themselves for their tools, as we do, but made their tools of silicon. Mechanical servants for every function." You see memories of silicon based life forms covering a world, much like the creatures of Nowhere, but of every shape and size.

Which makes me thing that yes this could be a farm world for a silicate life form most likely the Void.

If you take that in consideration, that this us a artificial planet for having silicate food and look at the map you will notice our System G-426 would be the Scavs next stop on their nomadic quest. Something i'm just making assumption do to the facility connecting to the one in the waypoint in the Eye of Sorrow were we sended our fleet.

Also need to take notice that M-323 is were Heretic is keeping himself hidden in the station and that A-295 is a planet witha high concetration of metal.

Basicaly the Void is slowly guiding the Scavs to take the Skyl old worlds and finnaly turn then into the new slave race.
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>>3007916
>The elders tell of a young ball much like you. He bounced three meters in the air. Then, he bounced 1.8 meters in the air. Then, he bounced four meters in the air! Do I make myself clear?
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>>3007954
The beings of silicon were obviously the constructs. The Sphere however is not being called a construct.
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>>3007954
No shit it's a creation of what is now only vaguely named after the subdimension they rule, the Void. I just said that in not so many words.

I was pointing out the Void faction was never a silicon life form, any more than humans are silicon based because they made their computers out of silicon circuits.

Literally read. It even mentions "A distant sphere." One that is not said to be made out of silicon.

>silicate food
Silicates literally can't eat carbon-based sugar.
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>>3007991
Oh you are sayong the RACE was a carbon based sphere? Yeah i think that is possible maybe they were lile that before becoming attached in doing their crystal thing.

On another note since we don't have pods on Sentinel and A-295. My suspicion is thay A-295 is were the scavs are getti g the metal to build more ships and it's the only planet we haven't visit yet. Also Checking Sebtinel to make sure there is no metal or Union tech the scavs can get to themselfs.
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>>3008007
Yes i didn't get it at first but now i get it.
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>>3008020
>we don't have pods on Sentinel and A-295

In what post was it ever voted to remove the pods from there.
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>>3008020
Did you not about the asteriod fields in Matron Star? They have metal there.
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>>3008047
There is no pods mentioned in the pastebin unless QD made a mistake in not posting it there.Or i'm getting blind and didn't read it.

>>3008058
You really think they won't try to find another place after being kicked out of Commonwealth space?
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>>3008082
That would require them to know they were kicked out.
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>>3008082
Only 9 stars in the pastebin ever had that note about (Space pod cloaked here) or (Space pod located here) tacked on. They're gratuitous. Every single one of them still has at least a pod there. The only ones that were ever left podless for a while was Desmond in early threads after first exploring it with a corvette and then calling the corvette back with blue carbon liquid, Gliese when a pod came back with Seiner's head, and Toliman when the sole pod blew up the Mirage.
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>>3008112
Ah thanks for that..it has being a long time and i wasn't sure if we had pods. If we have eyes at our system then my worries are unbased.

>>3008090
Didn't some Scavs ship escaped when we initiaded the attack with the Commonwealth? Maybe i just miss readed it and they just retreated to the system were the Broodmother we captured was.
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>>3008129
When we go for the genocide option we don't halfass it. Every single ship was eliminated before it could escape.
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>>3008082
Yea, you have a pod in more or less every charted system at this point. Unfortunately we probably won't have time to dump any more map data today due to being a bit busy with a lot of other stuff and... well, you'll see.

Anyways, just finished updating the opening pasta and making the OP now, sorry for being a bit late.
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>>3008172
I'm not sure if we can fit much more in this thread.
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>>3008176
Na, I'm gonna make a fresh one.
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>>3008176
>making the OP
We won't be.
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QD have you ever heard of Humanx Commonwealth?
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>>3008149
Well then everything is fine. I though the only ones we genocided were the ones in the Eye of Sorrow and the ground forces in the two worlds we deployed our drones. I remember we sinked the Red Claw or whatever that was a scav battle cruiser.
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Thread's up!
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>>3000345
Ayyyyy





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