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Elizabeth sits at her desk as she pours over stacks of notes and collected data in the dimly lit laboratory, her own eyes perfectly adapted to the near darkness. Holograms float about the room as one of the few sources of light, each showing information on various tests, the details of the involved drones updating her mentally as she focuses on the small chunk of dissected flesh set in a petri dish before her. Somewhere in the dark, twisting tunnels of the hive, a sudden explosion shakes the chamber, the thinkers swinging from their anchors along the ceiling as jars rattle and spill. Her face tenses with aggravation for a moment, and she quickly scrawls on a sheet of paper with a clawed finger.

“Test six-two-one complete. Results... uncontrolled thermobaric combustion.” She says with a tired voice. Several nearby thinkers hum with a shared aggravation as workers file into the ruined test chamber to clean out the remains as Elizabeth combs the area with their eyes, searching for any sample that may be studied, or more likely, add to the collection of useless chunks of meat now lining the far wall in fluid filled jars. She leans back on the protruding limbs along her back, glancing up to the holoscreens to examine the status of other experiments, making adjustments mentally where needed.

“Test six-three-three seems off. The thinker has expired, but not from overheating. Temperatures are well bellow zero.” She scratches at the base of one of her antennae with curiosity. “I suppose that's a kind of progress.” She says. “We're able to project the thermal energy now, but control is still an issue.” A speaker shuffles by, quickly picking up a number of broken jars and scattered paperwork.

“You have skipped your regular sleep schedule, this is unhealthy for humans.” Your drone chirps. She dismissively waves a hand, sending several upturned jars jolting back up on the desk with a quick thought of kinetic force.

“Sleep is a product of space efficiency, using the same pipes to delivery oxygen when awake and remove toxins when asleep. The continually improving structure of my own mutations seem to be mitigating that need. I was planning on seeing just how mitigated it is.” She glances to the drone as you share a mental thought. “Besides, I couldn't possibly sleep with everything there is to do.” A mental command brings an image of the Scavenger brood mother materializing along one of the holograms, and her thoughts run to check on the workers preparing for the arrival, widening a number of tunnels to better accommodate the scavenger's size.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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>FAQ ask.fm/QuestDrone
>Discussion page http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Quest_talk:Hive_Queen_Quest
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>>1899725
Can we vote on these things?
>Research the crystal spires at G-426 P2
>Begin rebuilding the skyl ringworld at M-323
>Begin colonizing A-295
>Begin updating Elizabeth on the all things we've learned
>Communicate with Heretic and Theseus on the true nature of the enemy and try to get all relevant information
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The best time of the week is here!
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>>1899725
It begins again
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>>1899725
You feel the notice of a Distant Mind
>Psionic research has received a small boost
>Slip drives have a 10% chance to alert you to their usage

>Current resource reserves
Nutrients: 29,347,760N
Metals: 22,885,364M
Credits: ₡602,226
Credits in Lyle’s account: ₡1,175,000

Active trade routes
>Leeland – Lanway: HMS Orphan, Captain John Spreckels
[FormOther brand Fusion Reactors]

>Construction underway
before I start adding up some of your more recent orders, I'd like to see if we can go over your general industrial complex, so to speak, and give you a chance to look over and mess with your build queues. We seem to keep adding more ships, but I haven't given you much of a chance to improve your planets to get an income to match, and I want to make sure we do that now that I have the planetary construction set up.
made but unpaid for
[Light Fleet] x5
[Heavy Fleet] x15
[Ambush Fleet]x10
[Fast Assault Fleet] x5

>Formed fleets and orders
Citadel Hive Ship – [Awaiting orders]
Small Heavy Defense Fleet [Patrolling Leeland space]
25 Heavy Battle Fleet [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
5 Missile Ambush Fleet [Awaiting orders]
30 Light Fleets [Supporting Commonwealth Liberation]
20 Light Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Fast Assault Fleets [Awaiting orders]
10 Ambush Fleet
6 Carrier Battle groups

Clone upkeep/special projects and expenses
[Gemini]
3 Taidaren Hybrids (105)
4 Human flash clone upkeep – 120
18 Human hybrid clone upkeep – 540
Specializations:
>Tech
>Engineer
>Brawler
[Hive space]
100 Human Hybrids – 3,000
Lyle Rogers – 57
Jackob Eisner – 56
Dillon Reager – 30
Clone/project upkeep – 3,908N

>Income
Metals: 2,950,500
Nutrients: 7,636,000
Net:

Total upkeep
Nutrient costs: 6,675,390
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>>1899745
>now that I have the planetary construction set up
Oh hell yea bud
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SO IT'S FINALLY A NEW DAY
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>>1899745

Espionage Activity
Gemini: This planet holds an embassy, random chance to gain intelligence each day, +1 Active Operation available. This planet's population is highly irritable and aggressive to Hive influence. All failure and detection chances are increased. Increased rate of psionic resistance in the local populace. Any attempt to increase unrest will receive a bonus to success chance and increased detection rate.
[Covert Infiltration] Resources: 1 sleeper cell planted in maintenance and sanitation department.
>Beggars and Taidarens

Path: This planet is currently under military lockdown, dramatically increasing failure and detection chances. The local population is anxious and afraid of the future due to recent events, increasing the population's psionic vulnerability to influence.

Huron: This planet's condition is unknown, no monitoring effort is under way.
[Maintain Concealment]

Bedrock: This colony is suffering from widespread panic, dramatically lowering detection chances of hive agents, but making the results of operations and gathered data far more unpredictable.
[Maintain Concealment]

Hive Territory
[G-426]
*Leeland (capital)
N 60+40
M 45
Development 50

Income:
4.886MN
162.5KM

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System: Uses long range missiles to attack enemy ships in the system (1KN, Additional costs per launch)
>Anti-orbital battery grid: Directly attacks enemy ships in orbit (8KN)
Military structures
>Hangar facilities: Deploys atmospheric and orbital drones to intercept attackers, uses aerodynamic and fighter drone designs (4KN)
>Psionic Shroud: Conceals hive activity from psionic senses (1KN)
Industrial structures
>Docking Pylon: (2000) (100KN)
[Empty docks: 8000/8000]
Economic Structures
>Capillary Tower [under construction]
>Smart Mines active: Calculates development stat twice for metal income
>Algae Farm: +25N
>Film harvester dock: +15N
Asteroid mining base: 50KM per day added to nearest planet.

[M-662]
Raligha
N 90+20
M 10
Development 25

Income:
2.75MN
0M

Defensive structures
>Surface to Orbit Missile System (1KN)
>Anti-orbital battery grid (8KN)
Economic structures
>Bloodroot collectors: Pipes running from Bloodroot trees extract nutrient rich sap +20N
>Greystalk farms: [under construction]
>Greenwall pit: Genetically engineered plant efficiently recycles waste material, Extra N income x2
>Temple alter: A place for the Ralighan locals to worship and bring offerings to your hive, built in the likeness of your local fake queen, +500N per day

[M-323]
>Orbital docking pylon: Space for docking and construction of 4 sub capitals or 1 capital ship, (50N)
[Empty docks: 0/4]
>Mining corvette salvage operations +2,688,000M per day (+8000M per corvette)

[Farcast]
Derelict Sensor array

Glassed Hive world
N 0
M 100
D 10

Income:
0N
100KM

>Smart mine mantle excavation: Calculates development stat 3 times for metal income

Deep space waystation
>100 docking pylons (10KN)
[Empty docks 400/400]
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>>1899769
New Construction Options

Defensive structures
>Anti-orbital battery grid – A network of anti-orbital batteries scattered across the planet, each situated in a fortified bunker complex fitted with stationary gun positions and intense hive creep fortifications. Each battery is a capital ship class particle beam capable of attacking enemy vessels in orbit of the planet, each situated in relation to the others to provide overlapping fire over any location above the planet. 8,000N 48,000M
>Surface to Orbit Missile System – This massive bunker complex houses a wide range of warheads and a nigh limitless number of missiles within its protective walls, allowing you to launch missiles against approaching invaders from the safety of your hive. The facility uses the ship missile stats and comes equipped with a single Cruise missile silo that can target any detected object within the system, five Stinger missile silos capable of targeting any craft within high orbit, and ten Swarm missile silos specialized in targeting high altitude aircraft and low orbiting targets. The facility itself is a massive complex spread out over several miles, and includes guidance and launch equipment, as well as the means to construct and maintain a stock of warheads and missiles. (1500N 2500M)
>Shield dome network – An overlapping network of bunkers crisscross the landscape of a planet offering emergency shelters for any local inhabitants to survive orbital attack, as well as shield emitters placed in overlapping layers set around important infrastructure and planetary installations. Like all shields, heat quickly becomes a problem as it sustains fire, as such a mixture of ventilation towers and subterranean heat sinks, turning a small facility into a massive, sprawling network of infrastructure. If the planet suffers orbital bombardment, this planetary installation will absorb all damage first. 8,600N 50,000M
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Daily reminder

>Raid OQ
>Read the locked memories of that thinker.
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>1899771
Military Structures
>Military Spaceport – Extensive fortified maintenance bays and hangars are built across the surface of the planet, as well as infrastructure and manufacturing centers to support the production and maintenance of a planetary strike craft squadron. Swarmer fighters are produced at a constant rate with suitable range to intercept orbiting vessels or approaching dropships, while more advanced fighters and gunships of the most suitable design are produced and maintained for system wide defense and patrol Aerodynamic drones are also maintained in scattered hangar facilities to provide air support in the event of ground attack, and intercept enemy dropships. All craft are held in hibernation to reduce costs, allowing an entire planet's worth of strike craft to be maintained for a relative low cost. 500N 1000M
>Psionic Shroud – A single building built around the shattered remains of a Void Shard, the shroud amplifies the unnatural mental silence of the broken crystal within to mask an entire planet from potential detection, preventing outside forces from easily detecting the thoughts of a hive. (2,000N 5,000M)
Psionic Sensor Tower – A massive spire composed of highly psionically sensitive instruments and material focused on the detection and measurement of wide range quantum states in a vacuum directed at the space around the planet. Grants a chance to predict the arrival of ships approaching the system via certain FTL methods. The effectiveness depends on the method used and the size of the incoming fleet, granting a base chance to detect incoming Blink drive ships at 75%, Space-fold and Rip drive at 50%, Warp drive at 25%, and Flicker drive at 10%. Gatecasting ships from Hypergates and Slip drive is not effected. (20KN, 30KM)
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>>1899777
Economic Structures
>Docking Pylon – A large spire or station that contains space for docking and construction of 4 ships, or a single capital ship if placed in orbit. By default is used to produce hive vessels, but can be made to offer repair services to passing ships in return for credits or other acceptable transaction fees. 100N 300M
>Weather Spire network – A networked collection of spires spread across a planet capable of studying and altering a planet’s climate and atmosphere. Construction includes the building of all spires needed to function. While the spires can manipulate a planet's climate towards any desired effect, by default the spires will attempt to optimize a planet's fertility and habitability for hive life and its primary crop strains, increasing a planet's base N score by 5. Alternatively, the spires can work to create intense storms and thicken the local ionosphere, reducing N score by 5 and imparting a penalty to enemy craft within the atmosphere and blocking enemy communications to and from orbit, as well as disrupting sensors of orbiting ships. This option is not available for planets with naturally turbulent and disruptive climates. (8,000N 20,000M)
>Orbital solar array – A station placed in orbit of the local star equipped with a membrane of photosynthetic cells several kilometers in diameter capable of producing a steady stream of nutrient income. Due to practical constraints of logistics, a star system can support up to five solar arrays. Must be built around a main sequence star. Provides 1500N per day total (5,000N 5,000M)
>Harvester Dock – A large pier built along the shore overlooking the spore-producing ocean film that serves as an unloading area for Harvester drones, and contains pipelines to pump collected raw nutrients to the hive’s awaiting processing facilities, includes a single Harvester which is covered by the cost and upkeep of the dock. Provides 500N per day total (38N 50M)
>Orbital electroponic station – An orbital instillation built near a large source of hydrogen used to fuel a large fusion core, which in turn provides electrical power to a contained algae farm facility. Must be built in orbit of a gas giant. Provides +2000N per day and doubles as a gas mining facility, refueling the tritium stores of any ships in the system. The station itself can serve as the hub of a space city with additional investment. (3000M)
>Algae Farm – A carved out space used to utilize Leeland’s natural electrical field to cultivate food. +100N per day, 1 worker to maintain.
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>>1899785
>Hydroponic platform – A floating greenhouse platform used to grow farmland through hydroponics that can only be built on or near water with open access to plentiful sunlight. Each greenhouse platform supports roughly one hectare and requires a single worker to tend the crop and maintain the platform. Multiple platforms can be connected together to create fields of floating farmland. +200N per day, 1 worker to maintain.
>Filter towers – A large underwater pylon built to extract raw nutrients from the microbial life of the surrounding ecosystem. Can only be used on planets with bountiful biospheres and deep oceans capable of supporting large amounts of microbes. Provides between 100 and 500 N per day, depending on the local environment. (500M)
>Capillary Tower – This massive organic space elevator offers a number of logistical and economic advantages, despite its drastic up front cost and fragile nature. Shuttles or space craft are no longer needed to move resources from the surface to orbital structures, freeing shuttles for more important tasks. The counterweight station serves as a center for construction, with 4 docking pylons included on the structure to repair and build ships, while gaining a bonus to capital ship construction time due to the speedy nature with which resources arrive from the surface. The Capillary Tower can also spread hive creep and extract resources at an increased rate, spreading roots deep into the crust to bring up resources directly into orbit, allowing you to consume a planet much more quickly than normal. A Hive ship can construct a Capillary Tower if given the time and resources to do so, deploying one after 3 full days, after which it becomes the counterweight station, and must remain stationary until it detaches and destroys the tower to move. A Hive ship deployed in this way does not have access to its spinal weapons, but can use other features as normal. A planet can hold a max of 4 Capillary Towers along its equator. For each one, planetary mining or over harvest activities are doubled and its Development score increases by 10, this bonus can surpass a planet's maximum development, and will not effect its biosphere. Upkeep is reduced by half on planets with an atmosphere. (50,000N 500,000M)
>Planetary Core Rejuvenation network.
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Ahhh yeah boiii
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
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>>1899794
Finished Research

Empathetic Paralysis
By using a carefully tuned psionic signal focused into a concentrated area, it is possible to momentarily interfere with the proper functioning of the somatic nervous system, causing paralysis and interfering with higher thought functions, causing a momentary lapse in memory in the target's mind for the duration of the effect.

New Research Available
Current Research

Gas Giant Superstructure Construction
Medium
Using a mixture of space station technology and modified, miniaturized capillary towers, it may be possible to create semi-permanent or fully permanent hives within the upper atmospheres of gas giants, where a mixture of atmospheric static, wind farming, and gas mining can provide a more constant and bountiful resource income while providing a more robust frame with which to construct infrastructure.

Swarm Drive Tuning
Slow
By configuring the gravity thrusters to respond to the foils of other ships within the same formation, performance can be increased outside of a gravity well by taking advantage of a kind of gravitational slipstream created from the foil's unique gravitational effects.

Gravity Thruster Optimization
Medium
Miniaturization to the gravity thruster itself, as well as optimizing the layout of the foils across the hull allow for smaller strike craft sized ships to make use of the thrusters both when operating in atmosphere and when performing evasive maneuvers.

Psionic Thermokinesis
slow/mildly dangerous
An even more finely tuned execution of known tachyonic physics, thermokinesis is the practice of altering the energy state of atoms, but instead of altering their velocity, it utilizes a less uniform alteration to increase or decrease atomic vibration, quickly increasing or decreasing the ambient temperature of the target. It may take some time for your thinkers to successfully accomplish this feat, however, without also igniting the laboratory.
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>>1899794
>Planetary Core Rejuvenation network.
>no cost given
Is it free then?
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>>1899806
So ad this will probably the last time in a long time i'll be here for one of these threads...
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>>1899806
So are we going to vote on this stuff?
>>1899731
You did say to remind you.
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>>1899806
Psionic Conduction
slow/mildly dangerous
While altering the physical nature of particles has become possible, using highly controlled tachyonic signals it may also be possible to use the projected psionic energy to subtly alter and transfer other forms of energy in a more direct process than kinetic force. Your thinkers believe it may be possible to use alternate sources of energy outside of the target and potentially use tachyonic signals in order to carry that energy to the target. The early experiments have already proven promising, however it may be some time before the thinkers are capable of producing results without causing spontaneous detonations within the laboratory.

Memory Seed
Slow
By creating a miniaturized and less overtly useful memory crystal similar in overall function to the white crystals used to record thought by your elders, and modifying it into a neural implant, you believe it may be possible to create a kind of constantly updating backup memory for clones, agents, and even drones that would potentially hold its information after death. The memory seed would theoretically be capable of retaining the full memories of the host individual up to and including the very moment of death, and be able to preserve those memories long after the brain itself has physically deteriorated, a process that typically drastically limits the time frame in which memories can be gathered.

>Psionic Spores
Slow
While normally the hive spores used to spread infrastructure are little more than genetically engineered nanomachines, replicating and performing their function alone until their built structure is complex enough to receive mental signals, your mixture of psionic research and advancements in spore related genetic programming has made the idea of a psionically sensitive spore seem not nearly as far fetched as it once did. With a mixture of distributed networking and complex cellular reconstruction methods, it could be possible to create a spore strain that would respond to mental signals.

>Advanced Psionic Imprinting
Slow
With the application of psionic imprinting you are able to influence and alter the state of matter using only focused and precise mental signals. Your thinkers believe this can be taken further, using more accurate signals and more precise manipulation methods to imprint more complex thoughts and ideas more quickly and easily, and at a greater range.

>>1899807
No it just didn't save the file properly. It is rather expensive, to say the least. Everything else should be good. Although now you got me nervous that something else didn't save right.
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>>1899827
>Personal shielding
Slow
By further shrinking the emitters, your thinkers believe they may be able to eventually make them small enough to be equipped to the carapace of a drone, or to the surface of an armored suit. At this time it is mostly speculation and an eagerness to please mother beyond all reason, and you cannot be sure what the limitations may be, but the thinkers are sure they can do it.

>Data decryption
Medium (Very Fast with Theseus assistance)
While much of the data within the Smith mind was corrupted during the experimental extraction process or the trauma of the agent's death, there is still a good deal of encrypted data still intact. The data itself could be anything, from a revolutionary discovery to the agent's personal preference in music, or anything between. There is now way to know without decryption of the data, and the total randomness of the mystery has your thinkers begging to go to work.

>Planetary Shielding
Slow
By adding further scale to the shield dome, it is believed that an overlapping network of shields can be expanded from a series of clustered protective areas defending a planet's critical infrastructure to a vast, near total coverage shield stretching entire continents so as to protect a planet's biosphere and widespread population in addition to its military and industrial zones.

Available research options

>Psionic Cannon prototype
Very slow/Very dangerous
Detailed accounts of several experiments show the slow progress of Project Godsplitter. The cannon itself is highly volatile, and even the smallest miscalculation often results in the destruction of the ship, as well as any nearby craft. It can only be equipped to a Hive ship's spinal mount, and requires a functional Void Shard as ammunition. At least a dozen testing sizes were atomized in testing the weapon, and in the end it appears The Gardener never quite perfected it.

>Add new research
>Add Psionic Cannon
>Add neither
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>>1899835
>Add new research
So we have a new research option? Or just the one I gave.
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>>1899835
What new research? I thought the Scavenger Matriarch had just arrived. She's not listed in research?
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>>1899725
At last, a new day dawns on the hive!

>>1899835
>>Add new research
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And once more psionic thermoknectic escape us again. This constant failure is starting to drive me a little bit mad...
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>>1899835

>>1899852
>>1899844
Shit, my bad, messed up the copy and paste and just skipped right over it.

Empathetic Compulsion
Slow
A step further from the disruption of the nervous system, with additional fine tuning it may be possible to exert some limited control over an individual mind without the use of direct contact.
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>>1899835
Incidentally QD, how did the hurricanes treat you? I hope your house is still above water.
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>>1899880
There we go.
>>1899835
>Add new research
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>>1899884
It missed us for the most part, as I told everyone it would. The issue was not the storm, but dealing with everyone in my family screaming about the storm and trying to buy out every canned food and water bottle in the store. Most of them still remember Hugo.
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>>1899880
So you going to let us research the Crystal Spires on P2 or what?
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>>1899835
>>1899827
>>1899880

>Add new research

The machine shall never stop!
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>>1899835
>Add new research
Like anything else is an option, lol.
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>>1899899
The cannon is an option.
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>>1899892
We really could stand to send out a proper scientific survey to a bunch of planets really. I still want to see what sort of adaptations we can gain from the ecosystems on Corbin.
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Proposed Purchases:
G-426 (Aka Leeland)
P1, P2 and P3: Anti Orbital batter, Surface to Orbit Missile System, Shield dome Network
Gas Giant: 1 Thousand Orbital Electroponic Stations
Total Cost: 3.302 Million Metal, 5580 N. Gain + 1 million N per day.
This fortifies the hell out of our home system by fortifying every solid body in the system, and adds a mass of N income by sacrificing some of our ludicrous metal reserve. Need to check the other options once I understand the pastebin better.
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>>1899835
>>1899880


>Add new research

Elizabeth examines the preemptive biological report of the scavenger brood mother, cross referencing the data from your parasite with the information gained from your study of your captured scavenger alpha. She quickly makes mental notes of points of major differences in epigenetic activity.

"I can already see some interesting variation, although until I can get the more detailed study done I can't tell if that's just due to natural genetic variance or not. Still, I think I've learned enough of genetics from you to be able to figure that out once I get my hands on it." She looks to your speaker. "I've also... hmm." She thinks for the words for a moment. "I seem to have been feeling a bit of anticipation from some of the thinkers. Something about a thinker with a suppressed memory. The little things seem to bring it up at least once a day." She lightly pets one of the soft orbs of brain matter as it quivers in thought. "We could have a look through that while the workers dump our latest specimen into the pods."

>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
>Refuse, it could be dangerous
>Other
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>>1899942
>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
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>>1899942
>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
It's about time
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>>1899942
>Refuse, it could be dangerous
At least wait until we get the Psychic Shroud.
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>>1899915
>going into Union space to perform research when the tensions are high
No anon that's stupid.
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>>1899942
>refuse
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>>1899942
>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
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>>1899942
>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker

Elizabeth is best thinker-sis. But i guess she is also as curious as the thinkers to see what is in it.
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>>1899942
>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
Didn't even know he had any. It was the other WQ thinker from the hidden bunker that had his hidden memories, I think.
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>>1899947
The void gods are already in our space. Near the anomality the humans found. But still they are here. I guess it's time to pop that pinata.
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>>1899942
>>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
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>>1899948
Please, as if they could detect us on a backwater hellhole like Corbin.
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>>1899968
More like they trapped themselves in a black hole so no one can kill them.
>>1899972
You are officially retarded. They almost detected us invading Huron.
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>>1899942
>>Refuse, it could be dangerous
We can't UNdo it once we do it.
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>>1899982
If the humans hadn't managed to scope then insade that blackhole, i might have disagreed with you. But you may be right about it.

Also should we share this with Liz? I want to see her reaction once she knows the Union was partialy aware of the void.
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>>1899960
Correct. Though the playerbase was retarded enough to think it had hidden memories. That might have rubbed off on QD.
>>1899995
Please nobody here cares if it leads to us getting killed.
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>>1899947
>At least wait until we get the Psychic Shroud.
We already have a psionic shroud.
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>>1899982
>What is espionage
>What is stealthy infiltration via cloaked pod
Anon when they detected our pod they identified it as a meteorite, which is exactly what we intended. By your logic we should never engage in espionage or covert actions beyond the planets we've already infiltrated, and never again expand the scope of our espionage actions. What do we even have the capability for if that's the case?
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>>1900005
We're talking about the Thinker that was in the Space Pod egg that guided us to Leeland in the first place.

From early on it was said to have a hidden message/memory from the WQ but we kept putting it off until now
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>>1899999
I think we should leave the Thinker alone since it's memories are suppressed for our good. And if make a mistake and get wiped what if they were meant to activate later on? That would screw us over.
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>>1900015
Even the stealthiest infiltration via pod is very noticeable even more so now they are aware of it.
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>>1900017
Except it doesn't from what I've read. That was the one from Farcast.
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>>1900017
I thought the only memory it had was being hatched shortly before being put in the pod and launched.
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>>1899942
>Agree to examine the suppressed memory of your first thinker
Its time. We know the enemy. We know where they are. Let take the next step. Lets remember ourselves
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>>1900033
>>1900035
WQ implanted a memory in it as a time-capsule for when we're ready to crack it open

Personally I think it's a message from Grandma herself.
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>>1900038
So you want to die? Because we'd die if we tried that.
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>>1900041
That is an assumption. It is far more likely it was meant for after we've killed the Black Queen.
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>>1899942
Your thoughts of agreement bring an uncontrolled smile to her face.

"Excellent." She says. "We'll I'm going in with you. Hopefully there is something that could help make sense of some of my own scrambled memories. I can see scraps of them in my dreams but-"

"You are avoiding sleep to prevent dreaming?" You ask. She looks to your speaker with a terse glance as she leans back into a reclining chair of chitin and muscle, her antennae flexing to plug themselves into a set of thin sockets lining the top of the seat.

"We're searching through your old memories right now, not mine. Besides, I've just finished this new interface. I know this comes naturally to you, but I can still benefit from some training wheels." You can feel her thoughts more closely as the neurons link directly, establishing a physical connection between the hive and her mind. "I was inspired by those cluster creatures, actually, although in principal it works just the same as the parasite. Still, it seems to help increase the connection, or at least induces a noticeable placebo effect. I haven't had the time to run a proper study on it."

You quickly reach out with your mind, focusing more than your normally would on your infrastructure, as if concentrating on your own breathing, your drones march to your will without much of a conscious effort on your part, but you call one drone in particular to the center of your mind. Your first thinker, the pilot of the pod carrying your own cocoon, a thinker of the White Queen. You pull at its mind, its own conflicting orders buzzing in its consciousness. It's last orders were simple, to carry you to safety, and to hide a thought. With you as its Queen, it will contradict that order on your command, although it would prefer if you did not, like a child being told to do something wrong, it fears the disapproval of a long dead authority. You ease its mind as it panics over the contradiction.

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>1900047
Well, we'll find out. Votes have been cast and it looks like we're taking a trip down memory lane soon

>>1900050
Rolling
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>1900050
For mother
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>>1900050
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>>1900051
>14
Looks like we lose it forever if we roll like that.
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>>1900055
You speak too soon.
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>>1900055
You are much too cynical anon. Look at this roll >>1900052

That's how you do things for Mother
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>>1900052
For Mother indeed.
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>>1900050
>Your first thinker, the pilot of the pod carrying your own cocoon
>It's last orders were simple, to carry you to safety, and to hide a thought.

This isn't remotely what happened. Wut.

The Thinker with the forgotten memory was found in the Farcast system with the hibernating drones and a Hamlet-esque demand for vengeance. >>>/tg/39025421

Thinker One was still an unhatched egg until the pod was lightyears away from Reprieve. >>>/tg/36070250
>upon questioning you find that while the thinker hatched in the pod some light years within the nebula already, it had very simple orders from its own queen.
>"Go far away."
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>>1900084
QD got caught up in the stupidity and made a mistake.
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>>1900084
this anon is technically correct; the best type of correct.
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>>1900084
Uh, shit, looks like you're right. I guess we've gotten to the point where the quest is so huge and expansive even the QM is losing track of stuff huh?
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>>1900109
More like people kept saying "our first thinker" then QD fucked up writing it in his notes.
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>>1900151
It's first in terms of birthday. So there.
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>>1900157
*hatching-day
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>>1900089
>>1900151
You must be loads of fun to hang around, cynical-anon
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>>1900174
Birthing-day AND hatching-day.
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>>1900176
I actually am it just happens I speak most cynically when on 4chan.
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>>1899725
AW SHIT
QUEEN TIME I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE.
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>>1900050
Your ghostly mental form materializes in an empty world. Elizabeth stands next to you, her mind projecting a sensory experience comprehensible to the human mind. Her own form trails her thoughts and memories like gossamer silk wings, tattered and frayed at the edges. Her form is even less human than her physical appearance, covered in a thick carapace, her eyes glossy black orbs. You both examine your hive, their minds like an endless swarm of gleeful obedience to their queen. Elizabeth's mind extends the construct as your zoom in on your thinkers, and a vast classroom of children materialize, each one running their eyes across sheets of endless paper with inhuman speed, scrawling numbers of incomprehensible complexity faster than either of your own personal minds are capable of following. Groups of quantum thinkers sit in circles between the scattered desks, shuffling blocks and strange devices, occasionally fighting over one of them or scribbling over another's drawings.

You shift your focus again, concentrating on only the drones you did not lay yourself. The number decreases dramatically. In the distance, on a playground formed in Elizabeth's mind from a patchwork of memories, several young children surround a number of blurry figures as they bash them with sticks. The vague shapes of scavenger grunts slowly evaporate beneath the pummeling into the woodchips of the playground floor. Several of the warriors you recovered from your mother still live, reforged and improved, but alive all the same. Within the imagined classroom are two children, each writing some incomprehensible mathematical equation on a chalk board that seems to stretch past the horizon, the numbers blurring into a wall of data that changes and shifts with every adjusting variable. You recognize one as a blink calculation. The ship vanishes from your mind, and enters again a moment later in a new system, and the board is erased, only to be filled with a new wall of numbers. The other is organizing drones, a vast battle plan spreading across star systems shows theoretical attack vectors and probable threats as an orbiting fleet scans for Scavenger counter attacks, and atmospheric calculations give optimal firing solutions for orbital strikes and atmospheric entry for strike craft.

cont.

>>1900109
I have about 35 tabs of notes open, and a dozen word documents, it gets a bit disorganized at times, sorry.
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>>1900213
Our children are the cutest.I love them so.
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>>1900213
>mfw
All this post
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>>1899920
Correction, its 55800 N. Not sure how that mistake got there. Anyway, what do people think about that suggestion?
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>>1900213
Did you not see the other people point it out earlier before that update happened. >>1899960 >>1900005
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>>1900292
If he paid attention to me we'd have thinkers studying the Crystals on P2 right now.
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>>1900282
Well it would certainly make taking those bodies more difficult, but do we really need to fortify EVERY planetoid in the system? From what has been said of P2 any attempt to build military installations would be problematic in the extreme, they would be constantly melting.
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>>1900318
>P2
Wrong planet. That's P1.
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>>1900213
The two thinkers halt, the numbers in front of them continue to shift as other unseen thinkers pick up their never ending work. They turn to face you, timidly gripping their chalk, uncomfortable with anything beyond their numbers.

"And these are the thinkers from the White Queen?" Elizabeth asks.

"Yes, one piloted my cocoon to safety. It was born with memories of the Queen's commands, the other was left to be found on an abandoned world, along with a small force of drones and resources, and an urging desire to destroy the Obsidian Queen." You unfold their minds as the mental projection begins to disintegrate around you.

"I've never actually pried inside a drone's mind before." Elizabeth says. "It's so complex, but so efficient. There are no doubts, no regrets, all the memories are... it feels like they're alphabetized almost, not sure how else to put it."

"They are thinkers. They think, and they are good at it." You reply with pride. The pride is mirrored, and enhanced even, shading the mental world around you with vibrant flashes of color.

You see flashes of thought, collected in dense clusters of archived memories, each cataloged by date, objective, location, result, duration, and resulting feedback it earned from you. You see Grey and the others hunched over, digging up to the shoulder in a pod's exposed flesh. There is a mix of focused calculation and intense fear, not of the humans, who are fascinating with their strange speech, but in its loneliness. It keeps a portion of its thoughts locked onto your mind's distant echo, offering faint cries of data pertaining to observed weather patterns and limited topographical data until your workers reach its location. Its mind is filled with joy as it receives your will for it to be recovered, removed from the pod, and added to the Hive's number.

Another memory flashes by, simple but deeply remembered. You feel a sudden shock as an unfamiliar mind offers a brief moment of attention. Data regarding the strange biological substance you recovered that consumes metallic substances. The research is unfinished, but an initial report is offered to the Queen, your mother, and the response is simple.

"Well done. Return to work on the cannon." The response has the thinker beaming with pride, and it lunges into its work with the others, the memory becoming a haze. The thinker was one of many on the project, its own mind only focused on a small component of the larger project, nonetheless, you find some data to be gleamed from it.

>Psionic Cannon prototype boosted to Slow/Very dangerous

cont.
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>>1900322
Incorrectomundo, once again.
>• P2: This elliptical shaped planetoid is composed of various metals, with visible rivers of mercury running through mountains of crystallized rock formations. The day lasts roughly six minutes, causing tremendous strain on the planet, maintaining its nearly disc like shape. At the equator, a geostationary orbit is enough to escape orbit, making any landing attempt dangerous at best. Atmosphere is thicker in the poles, and is composed of a mixture of sulfur oxide, argon, and nitrogen. Due to geothermal anomalies likely a result of its rapid rotation, forests of crystals are a common sight across the planet.
And those crystal formations you won't shut up about are clearly natural formations caused by geological processes btw. Not worth wasting thinker power on.
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>>1900327
>>Psionic Cannon prototype boosted to Slow/Very dangerous
Oh fuck.
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>>1900340
Unless we want to sell them as tourist trinkets to New New New Age hippies as talismans attuned to the "galactic harmonics" from that self-help book.
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>>1900327
>the metal eating organism is part of the weapon
Didnt see that coming
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>>1900340
>implying
And the asteriod field in the home system is clearly a failed planet. STOP TAKING THE DESCRIPTION FOR FACE VALUE IT'S LIKELY WRONG.
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>>1900352
*skyl home system
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>>1900350
That's probably because it isn't true.
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>>1900347
Knowing more about the enemy can't possibly make it easier for them to read our collective mind. Learning more about this surely has no consequences whatsoever.
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>>1900364
I actually kept saying that there was information on the Psionic cannon in the thinker memory but nobody wanted to believe me.
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>>1900352
Yeah, because the starting system we chose clearly has been infiltrated by the omniscient god-mind so long before we arrived that it has managed to take over the entire planet. The planet that is almost directly adjacent to our homeworld and the queen herself.

Do you seriously think that we wouldn't have detected that level of psionic activity right under our noses this entire quest? We were able to sense the Skyl remnants on Aral from outer orbit.
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>>1900318
Don't forget that the cruise missiles and planetary fightercraft can target anything in the system. Mind you, you have a point about P2. We can drop that.
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>>1900350
I think it's more like the canon required high amounts of metal to be estructured and so the thinker was the one in charge to gather the resources in a fast way and so decrease the process of gathering the resources to build it.

Would be interesting if we could somehow make our creep use the resource of a planet and so build the canon automaticaly. But this is highly unlikely.
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>>1900375
What stupidity are you uttering? If there were void shards on P2 we'd have to explore the planet first, which you seem to be alergic too, because they almost impossible to hear unless you are within 50 meters of them. Hell we were only aware of the Tartarus Reactor because the Psionic signal from the shard was amplified.
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>>1900340
The contention was over 'constantly melting', which would be the much hotter P1. Nothing would melt on P2 it has other problems.
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>>1900485
Which is that carbon life couldn't survive on it because the is not breathable to carbon based life though silcon life could probably survive just fine.
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>>1900327
You continue to examine the memories, old and dismissed as unimportant to its current goals. Some have been re-remembered, leaving only fragments of memory behind as neurons are re-tasked with new memories, their structure slowly rewired as the thinker moves from task to task, isolating only a select few memories, those of you, its current queen, and those it needs to function, as well as one memory it has been ordered to keep, but to suppress. The neurons have nearly been severed, left into a corner of the mind, buried deep beneath hoards of thoughts and deliberately obfuscated into a faint ripple of warning.

You pull at the thought like a stray thread, unraveling the thoughts from the tangled mess of deflective memories and into a coherent image.

You see your mother, the White Queen. She is holding the thinker in her own claws.

"I am sorry." She says to the drone, but it is directed past it, the thinker a mere vessel for the thought of deep regret. "I have failed. My time comes to an end, and all I can give you is your ignorance to shield you until you are ready. You will be ready, in your time. I know this because you are my daughter, and I can expect no less. The Nomad has helped me in my endeavors. She is already gone, but her hives still hold what you will need. Follow this trajectory, and when you are ready, follow it. I will give you all I know, and then you must finish what I could not, and succeed where I failed. You are the last hope of our kind, and I am sorry to have forced this upon you. You will be wild, without inhibition or the civility of our culture, but that is what you will need. We could not bring ourselves to the truth of our desperation. We struggled to maintain our own comforts, our civility. You must be untamed, you must do what we would find unthinkable. You must be forged in suffering and live as a beast to earn back the birthright we squandered." You examine the location given, a velocity and distance relative to the White Queen's own world, far off in deep space.

"Find it. This drone is too simple and too vulnerable to hold this knowledge, and once you have it, you will need to fight to keep it." The queen lowers her head, her crest touching the thinker's soft carapace as a sudden pain washes over the drone, and the memory fades into a blur of deliberately obscured thoughts.

You have already calculated the given vector. The drift is low, and if the information is reliable it would not be difficult to find.

>Send a ship to the deep space location
>Leave it alone
>Other
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>>1900499

> when you are ready, follow it.
>once you have it, you will need to fight to keep it."

Uhhh.

If this is to the black hole or a similar location we may not be ready. Let's unlock the psionics tree first.

Bad idea RN.

>>Leave it alone
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>>1900499
Is it a place we know of?
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>>1900499
>>Leave it alone
Wait until we colonize and fortify the expanse. Should only take a day or two if we actually have an infrastructure vote soon.
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>>1900499
>send a fleet to the deep space location
Go big or not at all.
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>>1900499
>Leave it alone
We are not ready yet.

We still need to secure the expanse and have a proper amount of ships.
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>>1900499
>Other
notify theseus and herectic. we need to form a task force fleet between us and send that

mother said we will fight. lets be ready to fight.
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>>1900525
Like seriously "you will need to fight to keep it" is a big red flag saying "just KNOWING this draws aggro, they will know you know".
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>>1900527
Anything less than a maxed out tech is not ready.
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>>1900526
It is a location in deep space, apparently a secret hive made by the Nomad.
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>>1900525
>>1900527
>>1900531
But what if we need to get it right now?
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>>1900499
>>Send a ship to the deep space location
It is time to accept our birthright.
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>>1900534
I support that.

We do need to organize the Expanse a bit first though. Or at least get the fleet out of Gemini's orbit.
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>>1900534
We're not ready. WE'LL FAIL BECAUSE THIS WAS MEANT FOR AFTER KILLING THE BLACK QUEEN.
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>>1900556
I don't really think that's the case. What do we have that suggests that?
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>>1900548
Then we lost because it the player's stupidity.
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>>1900535
Reminder that we have already fought and beaten the Obsidian Queen in claiming what has been lost. We saved the Scarred Queen and this we can anticipate that this will be on about the same level.
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>>1900499
>Send a ship to the deep space location
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>>1900560
I predicted this drone would be the end game if we go it's route. IT'S END GAME IF YOU FOLLOW IT.
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>>1900556
>MEANT FOR AFTER KILLING THE BLACK QUEEN
I dont remember any evidence supporting this, and you havent put any forward.

That said, Reclaim Our Birthright!
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>>1900499
>LEAVE IT
Not time for suicide mission.
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>>1900571
But what evidence do you have that it's endgame?

This could have the solution and advice on fighting the Obsidian Queen for all we know.
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>>1900556
I don't think I've agreed with a single thing you have posted this entire thread, but there is no basis for assuming that. Beating the OQ is the goal mother set for us, if we have to fight her for this obviously we can't do that after we kill her.
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>>1900534
You may have a point. They have proven quite useful in conflicts against psionic enemies so far
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>>1900573
>locked memories
That's all the proof you need. The memories were locked so we kill the thing the caused her to fail.
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>>1900580
The would have unlocked themselves after we killed the Black Queen. And if I'm right then doing this will force the end game early killing us.
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>>1900576
Except if it were then why was it locked? It would automatic been given to us in that case.
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>>1900499
>Send a ship to the deep space location
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>>1900603
You haven't been right about a single thing this entire thread. Why do you assume QD would be so eager to kill this quest with no warning?
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>>1900499
>>Send a ship to the deep space location
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>>1900616
Best just to ignore them by this point. They're convinced they're right and won't budge.
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>>1900616
>haven't been once right
What kind of idiot are you? You've already been proven wrong on all account and then you turn around and say "no you wrong" for fuck sakes.
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>>1900623
I remember when i was that stubborn, good times, good times.
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>>1900631
You aren't providing evidence and are raging quite hard. Its safe to assume you no longer have anything to contribute. Blocked.

Lets hope you learn from this by the next time you are needed thinker.
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>>1900623
THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT YOU. WHY NOT WAIT AND EXAMINE THE SITUATION CAREFUL BEFORE DIVING INTO A POTENTIAL SUICIDE MISSION BECAUSE CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT. This reminds me of time Killinger baited us.
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>>1900631
>proven wrong on all accounts.
Uh no, the only thing he's been proven wrong on is >>1899915
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>>1900643
Okay let's have a civilized argument for what reason could there possibly be to not delay this shit.
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>>1900650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgifYsEc1cU
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>>1900653
If you want to split hairs that was more of an expression of a general opinion on my part, rather than an assertion of fact.
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>>1900499
>Send a ship to the deep space location
Scout it out. See what's there. Don't claim it yet.
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>>1900653
He was talking about shit like us being able to sense void shards from space (how I wish we could) or how the P2 was to hot to build on (another player did that). I mean for fuck sakes what about this doesn't scream "call to war" and why the fuck are we not requesting advice from the Scarred Queen.
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>>1900499
>>Leave it alone

>once you have it, you will need to fight to keep it
I suspect rediscovering it will set larger events in motion. And we've been without it this long, we'll be fine without it for a while longer yet.
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>>1900678
>or how the P2 was to hot to build on (another player did that).
>(another player did that)
What? There are no buildings on P2.
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>>1900667
>wrong about P2 being too hot
>wrong about hearing void shards from space
>wrong about the descriptions being reliable indicators of what they hold
This your track record.
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>>1900657
>>1900657
Although it has not happened yet, I fear conventionally that the void or the Obsidian queen are making preparations behind the fog of war. Aquiring resources and knowledge sooner, rather than later, may allow us to claim things before the Obsidian queen moves in on them in more force.

Would OQ have killed the phantoms and the BaQ if we had taken a few dozen more threads to intervene? I dont know. Would she have finished eating path without our interference? Definately.

That is the posit, that the OQ might know who this Nomad is, and if they are out there, they may be destroyed before we encounter them. Preservation of time and resources necessitates sacrificing some of our hesitation.

That said, I strongly believe if the OQ knew she could fight us at this immediate moment, she would be, and I dont expect QuestDrone to produce ass pulls.

Now with that prefacing, lets weigh the benefits.

If the Nomad, who if memory serves has only been mentioned twice, is alive and joins our faction we will be adding free fleet assets to our hive. Included in that is the promise of all research that our mother produced, most likely in a memory crystal, which we will be able to crack and use at our leisure.

There is of course always the risk that we might warp in and find a doom fleet of 30 void entities devouring the Nomads flotilla, or whatever mom left for us out there, but I refuse to let that thinking corner me, if we all did that we would have never stopped the breach at nowhere!

If there is a credible rationale for why you think there may be enemy forces or a "ticket to the end game" it must be expounded upon.

As I see it, what you are suggesting could only happen 2 ways. We get there and somehow are instantly against our will bombarded with intimate knowledge of the Void, allowing them to see us completely, or we encounter the enemies fleets directly and they realise our jump vector and trace our homeworld.

One is impossible, and one is unlikely, though I do admit possible.
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>>1900690
Are you proposed being thick? I never said anything about there being building on P2 just it's not to hot to build on it.
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>>1900701
What the hell does "Another player did that" mean then?
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>>1900691
We heard something from the undying Skyl and their shard. I can see the mistake.

I still wish we had tried to find a way kill them the old fashioned way in a lab instead of just saying "ok whatever you want" at their strange-ass idea of the only way to kill them. Could've figured out why they couldn't do it themselves somehow.
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>>1900698
The void can do little as they are and they is only one thing that would force us to fight to keep it.
A fully functional Psionic Cannon.
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>>1900698
Nomad is dead anon. The WQ memory we just found out said so.
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>>1900710
>A fully functional Psionic Cannon.
So if you think there's a fully functional Psionic Cannon there why don't you want to get it?
It literally removes the worst part of the Psionic Cannon research, the wait time and risk of Void invasion when it's not ready, but with a complete Psionic cannon any void incursion can be blasted.
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>>1900698
>behind the fog of war.

...We have pods in literally all known OQ star systems.

We sent them to every star on the map, and Nowhere.

If something important were happening, surely QD would tell us?
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>>1900698
Nomad is almost certainly dead I fear, along with every other queen that were around when our Mother recorded this. The scarred queen was a fluke who only kept herself alive by doing the hive equivalent of gouging her own eyes out and piercing her eardrums to save herself from witnessing what not be witnessed. I would be amazed if any other queens were capable of doing the same to themselves, or were able to find other ways of hiding themselves from the void.
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>>1900703
Another pointed out that it's not to hot to build on though please be patient I'm following 3 quests and struggling to follow all of them.
>>1900718
That allows the Void to attack us directly which would end in our death if we go as we are.
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>>1900710
Are you suggesting that traveling to this system will instantly make us aware of the functioning of the weapon? Because I was under the understanding that the Void does not know every minutia and detail of our actions, just as we dont theirs.

How will discovering a Psi cannon, that we do not understand the principles of cause the void to be aware of us further and attack us?

>>1900714
>>1900725
Just re-read that and yes, she is. So whatever mom left is unprotected. More reason to strike.

>>1900724
CHEEKI BREEKI SCOUT UPDATES NEVER.

I stopped wondering about them 20 threads ago. Might as well do the same anon.
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>>1900499
Send a ship. Maybe it has a present from Mom.

Sorry I'm late
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>>1900724
>...We have pods in literally all known OQ star systems.
>known
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>>1900732
It's not until we go for that they will attack us, until then it'll be the BQ and void cultist attacking us along with everyone else. That is the reason I want delay it.
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>>1900730
>That allows the Void to attack us directly which would end in our death if we go as we are.

>Have a fully functioning Psionic cannon.
>We still die according to you.
Yea no, i refuse this assertion of yours that going to that system will immediately trigger a game over.
Actually this reminds me of that freakout back when we first got the "You feel the notice of a Distant Mind", a bunch of anons were panicking and saying this is game over and that we needed to lay a new queen. A complete overreaction.
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>>1900745
>attacking us along with everyone else
This might be poorly worded. They'll attack everyone including us. We're just another face in the crowd they're looking at until we have the Psionic Cannon in which they will swarm our home system with everything.
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>>1900745
>It's not until we go for that they will attack us
You have not provided proof or reasoning for this despite saying it 4 times. How are they going to attack us? How is the OQ going to attack us instantly for taking whatever this is, if its even there?

We went to the builders old shipyards and looted many things without the notice of the OQ or the Void.
We recruited Heretic in the same way.
We fought the fucking black queen on multiple occasions, and she isnt suicide rushing us constantly even though she knows we are in contact with older queens and probably knows we are aware of the psi cannon.
You provide no support for any of your suppositions, and no details other than "Dey gonna get us! Lets hide forever!"
Im done talking to you. You do not think logically thinker. Goodbye.
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>>1900764
Functional Psionic cannon does not guarantee victory especially since the Black Queen. As matter of fact all it'll take one ship to destroy it and the black queen has tens of thousands and the cultist still out tech us. You have to remember the WQ failed despite having a PC
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>>1900732
The Void is watching everything we do right now to the best of its considerable ability.

They probably have to roll for it every thread to see how well they can spy on us. But they're definitely watching in a way that we refuse to do the same, because that would seemingly lower their DC.
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>>1900768
The Void appeared on the WQ door step taking her by surprise remember. You have to have maxed out tech to fight them and we're still stuck in the industrial revolution.
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>>1900784
>Functional Psionic cannon does not guarantee victory especially since the Black Queen. As matter of fact all it'll take one ship to destroy it and the black queen has tens of thousands and the cultist still out tech us. You have to remember the WQ failed despite having a PC
She failed cause she missed the first shot dude, she defeated both OQ and the ceph with no damage to the PC, i am confident we can do the same.
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Well, I want to see what Nomad had got, but precautions must be taken.

>Lay a queen egg with a time delay and send it to Earth. This is our quicksave. Ensure it has every but if tech that won't get void attention.

> Get a combined research/salvage task force together with our allies. Psychic fuckery can hurt us, but it can't hurt an AI.
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>>1900792
>The Void appeared on the WQ door step taking her by surprise remember.
No it didn't, WQ was completely expecting them to show up at some point during the battle.
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>>1900793
Nope she hit the first time it only scratched the thing.
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>>1900794

>Lay a queen egg with a time delay and send it to Earth. This is our quicksave. Ensure it has every but if tech that won't get void attention.
I do not feel like these precautions are necessary.
It's literally a repeat of the aftermath of Nowhere now.
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>>1900796
Reread. She didn't expect them to show up the players did however.
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>>1900799
Because we rolled low causing her to hit only a glancing shot you dummy.
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>>1900768
>with older queens
>queens

One queen only anon.
But i understand however as mom said in her memory:

>This drone is too simple and too vulnerable to hold this knowledge

Which implies a more advanced or bigger thinker that holds knowledge. Which makes us wonder if we can move it or not. But wondering about it is waste of time

>and once you have it, you will need to fight to keep it

OQ's ship are scouting the old hives system, we maybe with a stealth fleet we can manage to spy the surrounding before deciding to jump toward it.

Also i don't know how much the 'notice of a distant mind' allows the void to see us. The Scared Queen said something about it. I don't remember if it's that they KNOW about us but can't pin point were we are or if they can simply sense our psionic.
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>>1900803
There is no quick save anon. That's why I'm angry.
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>>1900793
>She failed cause she missed the first shot dude
We got pretty good rolls in that flashback thread, as I remember, and WQ had a pretty fucking huge fleet backing up the cannon. We might have a tech advantage by comparison, but I wouldn't be comfortable betting our victory on rolling 85+ at the critical moment.
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>>1900794
If we loose with this queen is game over anon. There are no 'quicksaves'
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>>1900499
It seems hotly contested, but it looks like it's
>Send a ship to the deep space location

You quickly find a corvette and give it its new destination. Your ship charges its drive, and in a moment of mental static, you receive the image of deep space. The glow of the Cradle is still visible, and the faint signature of plasma drifts across your sensors. The ship is still within the nebula, although in a cooler part of it.

With the increased background heat, you find it difficult to discern anything from the soup of unborn stars. Your corvette drifts through space, aligning itself to the designated vector and examining all around it for anything of potential importance. Eventually, something stands out. A cluster of debris you first dismiss as junk, but it is moving in too uniform a manner to be detritus. You send your ship closer, and visual sensors detect that the components are connected in a massive web of infrastructure, although the heat level indicates none of it is active.

The structure itself is like a dozen small asteroids, all daisy chained together by fragments of starship hull. Along the outer perimeter is a massive set of gravity foils, although their design is somewhat unlike your own. They shift and ripple, like the drifting trail of a jellyfish flowing in an invisible ocean current, the plasma charge surrounding the foils sending them sliding from one side to the other. You feel a sudden rush of excitement.

"Tell me you're sending a boarding party." Elizabeth says. "You heard the White Queen, whatever is in there, it's critically important."

You are less sure of the situation. You have your ship quickly run about the station, closely examining it with all available sensors, including your own mind. It is cold and dead, its path steady and stable, and you feel no thoughts or psionic emanations from within...

>Board the Nomad's hive
>Leave it be for now
>Crack it open and search the resulting debris
>Other (write in)
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>>1900810
>That's why I'm angry.
You sound like you're angry about a lot of things.
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>>1900810
Fellow Thinker, we don't have the luxury of fear. Take logical precautions, but execute for mother.
Mother want thing, so we get thing.
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>>1900807
>glancing
WHAT PART OF A GIANT BLOB WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO HIT FOR IT TO NOT BE A GLANCING HIT IN YOUR EYES? AND WHAT IF SHE DID ROLL HIGH? IT WOULD HAVE ENDED THE SAME WAY.
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>>1900815
>>Board the Nomad's hive
Oh my that's a lot of delicious research.
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>>1900815
>Board the Nomad's hive
>blink in ships with strong sensors and fly contingents to canvas the structure quickly
>blink in a supporting security fleet some distance away to maintain an overview of the situation
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>>1900815
LEAVE IT. GIVE IT TO HERETIC AND THESEUS. ANYTHING BUT DOING IT OURSELF
>>1900819
And we need to be ready and we are not.
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>>1900815
>>Other (write in)
Call up Heretic and ask him what he knows about a Queen named the Nomad
Do the same with the Barren Queen.

After that, if we still haven't detected psionic emanations we board the sucker.
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>>1900832
Supporting
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>>1900830
Now that we know that the Void is mechanical in nature, it stands to reason that Theseus and Heretic would be even more vulnerable to void corruption than us. Now please stop shouting.
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>>1900832
>After that, if we still haven't detected psionic emanations we board the sucker.
>implying that matters
There are so many ways around that it's almost a joke at this point.
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>>1900806
>>1900821
>You distribute your orders to the thinkers within your ships for them to break formation and spread themselves apart to make themselves harder targets, and you activate the jammer. The pain is agonizing, but as you lose control of your fleet, you watch as the perfectly organized flowing formations of the Ceph fleet break down into chaos. Collisions and friendly fire engulfs the fleet as they spiral out of control. Your fleet open fire, each one spread out far enough to not even need their network to fire for effect. The space around you is filled with bursting shrapnel, and you watch as the ships flicker away in clusters, piece by piece.

>Finally, you sense space open before you, and an elongated ovoid of reflective metal emerges. The surface ripples like water.
>You finally have their attention. You must be more of a nuisance than you anticipated.
>The shimmering vessel grows into a point, and a lance of burning light slices a battleship in two, its innards burning like kindling, the escaping air carrying the flames from the wound like blood. Another lance leaps from the smoother surface and pierces a battlecruiser, slicing apart several corvettes behind it in the process.
>It drifts calmly towards you, its lances burning down your fleet ship by ship as the barrage of chittinous slugs evaporate against its hull.

>You finally have their attention.
Boy just look at that surprise.

>Roll of 34
>You charge the energy and unleash the cannon once more. The piercing death cry of the crystal within feels like needles in your mind. The beam lashes out to the looming hulk and tear at its hull. It begins to boil. The gurgling metallic liquid falls away in chungs, evaporating into nothingness. As the beam dissipates, you see a seeming crater in its bow, slowly reforming as cracks appear to form in the flowing surface. You can feel it screaming in pain and rage.
You made it bleed.
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>>1900809
More like it implies research subjects for you to study, and/or a white crystal memory.

>>1900812
We rolled a 34 on the only one that mattered: attacking the entity itself.
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>>1900815
this:
>>1900832
>Call up Heretic and ask him what he knows about a Queen named the Nomad
>Do the same with the Barren Queen.

>Board the Nomad's hive
Well, whatever it is is not large enough to be an industrial operation. Looks like it's some kind of skunkworks.
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>>1900815
>>Board the Nomad's hive
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>>1900815
>Board the Nomad's hive
>Other (write in)
Prep our fleet on Gemini to jump so it can quickly reinforce this system if an enemy decides to atttack.
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>>1900815
>>Leave it be for now
I feel like we should watch it and guard it for now. If enemies find it, only then we will have our hand forced and have to defend it and find whatever it is within.

Also dangit, they engineered gravity foils. of course they did seemingly have nanomachines that ended up inside Elizabeth.
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>>1900846
The roll was only to find out how much of the fight we get to "see" even if the roll was high it would have still failed. One psionic cannon would never be enough.
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>>1900827
Suporting
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>>1900865
No it wasn't you dumbfuck, go reread thread 29.2
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>>1900870
QD in that thread said rolls were not only for how much damage was done but also how much the fight we get to see.
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>>1900870
You mean this conversation? Because it was still gonna be a losing battle it seems by how QD acknowledged both comments.
>>>/tg/36076181
>High rolls would have just delayed the inevitable, I suppose. I mean. What else could have happened? We get a bunch of really high rolls and we find our mother half-dead but savable?
>>>/tg/36076232
>I'm basically thinking the higher our rolls the more story we see and exactly how good of a fight our Mother gave and how much damage was done.
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>>1900815
Send a boarding party. Time to see what gifts mom and aunt Nomad left us
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>>1900815
>Send a boarding party

Your ship moves in to find a place to dock, eventually extending its umbilical and it begins sending across its warriors.

>Speak with Heretic
>Speak with the Scarred Queen
>Continue with the boarding
>Other (write in)
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>>1900880
Long story short. ONE PSIONIC CANNON IS NOT ENOUGH DAKKA TO FIGHT THE VOID.
And we're lucky if we can get one.
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>>1900892
Yes
And all of the above
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>>1900892
>Speak with Heretic
>Speak with the Scarred Queen
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>>1900892
>Speak with Heretic
>Speak with the Scarred Queen
Why not both?
Then
>continue with the boarding

>>1900894
Honestly, having more than one -- provided we can even make them -- is great for redundancy. Since the cannon has a chance to explode each time we fire it, and each unit of ammunition is so precious, a situation where we have unspent ammunition just explode and become useless is very bad.
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>>1900892
>>Speak with the Scarred Queen
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>>1900865
>even if the roll was high it would have still failed.
Then why did QD have us roll for it if it didn't matter? You literally have no proof that the psionic cannon is ineffective no matter how high we roll and you seem to be treating QD like he's merciless.
>>1900880
I admit fault, but it seems to me he acknowledges that the rolls were for both the damage caused and how much we get to see, so they weren't only for the flashback sequence like this anons says here >>1900865
Also, QD did say that the damage done there was persistent, and although he only speaks about the ships it's possible that the void could have been severely hurt or even fatally wounded if we had rolled higher. We just don't know.
>The damage you're doing here is persistent. All those ships you blew up are still blown up, and the owners sorely miss them.
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>>1900903
>Supporting.
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>>1900892
>>Speak with the Scarred Queen
Though really we can share afterwards. Talking to that guy seems unlikely to change our course anyway.
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>>1900903
>Supporting
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>>1900892
>Speak with Heretic
>Speak with the Scarred Queen
That is all.
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>>1900892
>>Speak with Heretic
>>Speak with the Scarred Queen
>>Continue with the boarding

Multitasking is efficient
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I just got either a brilliant idea or a horrible one.
If whatever we find will cause our enemies to attack, why don't we have the ship carrying it blink to that system the Scav fleet is staying at so when the enemy pursues they suddenly find themselves in, at worst a 3 way fight, at best a fight that weakens 2 enemy factions?
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>>1900892
Your mind reaches out to Theseus. It is strange, but, given the limitations of more conventional forms of communications, you receive a faster response from Heretic by going through Zero-One than by transmitting to the Drive ship of Heretic and waiting for a response. It certainly says much to the integration of the two. You receive a reply directly, and you almost mistake it as being from Theseus, but the tone is unmistakable.

"We are open to all needed questions at all times. Please state your question."

>Ask about the Nomad
>Ask about the White Queen's plans
>Other
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>>1900963
>Ask about the Nomad
>Ask about the White Queen's plans
>Other
Let's call him in to help guard whatever the item is.
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>>1900963
>Ask about the Nomad

Pretty sure Heretic won't have nice things to say about the White Queen. They had some beef.
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>>1900963
>Ask about the Nomad

>It certainly says much to the integration of the two.

Then they are literaly a couple now. They are also almost speaking like the other. All it needs is for then to finish each others setence
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>>1900963
>Ask about the Nomad
>Ask about the White Queen's plans
>Other
Inform him of all information we have gathered on the enemy and if he has anything he can give us any revelant information.
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>>1900941
It's probably not a physical item that causes it. It's the information itself.
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>>1900963
>>Ask about the Nomad
If we must.
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>>1900963
>>Ask about the Nomad
>>Ask about the White Queen's plans
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>>1900963
>Ask about the Nomad
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>>1900963
"The old Queens," you say, "of them, what did you know of the one known as the Nomad?"

"The Nomad: Appearance unknown, fleet assets, unknown, capital, unknown. The Nomad considered secrecy to be the greatest form of security, and relied on allies for many resources due to a general refusal to settle near stars, preferring instead to construct mobile hives in deep space. It is unknown if the Nomad survived, but it is unlikely."

"An information cache has apparently been held by the Nomad for some time." You say, there is some apparent interest at that, and you detect Zero-One come alive with information broadcasts. There is some interference in your connection, and you can sense a fog of whispers, as if the two were conversing in great length. "This cache was obtained by the White Queen, and held by the Nomad for safety. Do you know anything of this?"

"No." Heretic replies. "This was unknown to us. In our life, the White Queen mistrusted lesser species, especially those who were once servile. We were deprived of all cooperation from those who followed the White Queen, until near the end, when her fleets withdrew. The Nomad was of a similar mind, however her mistrust was without discrimination. Everything and everyone was a potential threat. The Nomad only trusted other hives, and only of a related dynastic line. Her alliance with the White Queen was firm, but they held their disagreements."

"Over what?" You ask. You can feel the faint drifting thoughts of digitized organic memories, the thoughts strangely morphed by translation.

"We know only what we have been told. The business of the Queens was not of our concern, but it was clearly regarding overall strategy." You feel memories of the Gardener slip by, countless conversations and joint research efforts. "The Nomad held no more tolerance for us than the White Queen, but her desire to turn the tide of war and enter the offensive was strong. She vouched for the Black Queen's plans. The debates were bitter, enough that we overheard some scraps of thought between them. An emissary team was forced to retreat from the vicinity of the effigy hall or suffer injury from the psionic effects."

You find that surprising. Elizabeth flicks through her own thoughts, trying to assemble a mental puzzle from the information.

"In that case, something must have happened to get them to cooperate again." She says.

"That is all we know." Heretic says. "More information may be available at Nomad hive locations." Theseus adds. "Very few such locations were known, even to other Queens. If you have such a location, it is more than we could hope to know." Heretic says. "We would appreciate further information, if you gain any. Her focus of study will likely lead to valuable information regarding the Enemy."

cont.
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>>1901068
>Her focus of study will likely lead to valuable information regarding the Enemy
And we still haven't mentioned anything the Ancients have said.
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>>1901068
>you will never argue so hard that lesser races' heads threaten to explode
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>>1901093
It hurts
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>>1901068
>The Nomad considered secrecy to be the greatest form of security, and relied on allies for many resources due to a general refusal to settle near stars, preferring instead to construct mobile hives in deep space.

Second best aunt get.
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>>1901068
I've finally read through the archives. This quest is amazing.
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>>1901108
Welcome aboard fellow thinker. Take seat and start doing things for mother.
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>>1901068
The thoughts of your new vassal hive are growing rapidly. The Phantoms have already secured a large sum of nutrients for an initial hive, and the Scarred Queen has begun producing her first children. Her first clutch already skitters across the chamber of her throne room, a rather vulnerable position in your estimation, but she assures you it is temporary now that she is renewed.

"You wish for information on the old queens." She says. "I was unimportant. My small holdings minuscule. I had no effigy to speak for me. Still, I listened, and learned much from my old mother. I know of the Nomad, but not much. She was secretive and mistrusting, with no children in her dynasty to support her. She was an isolationist, and that made her welcome in the White Queen's alliances."

"I have heard." You reply. "But what of her and the White Queen's plans? We must be careful to minimize the dangers of recovering what they left behind."

"That I can say little about." Your new daughter replies. "I know the Nomad was trusting of her equals, more so than the White Queen. The Nomad wished to follow the Black Queen, and fell for her deception like the rest of us. Perhaps she was less trusting than I believed, if she held some contingency in secret with the White Queen?"

"Perhaps it would be best to send in Theseus or Heretic to retrieve whatever is left within."

"No!" She says, quickly lowering her thoughts to a more respectful tone. "No, my Queen, with respect, it is our legacy. We should not have voiceless silicates tampering with our ancient secrets."

"They are our closest allies." You remind her. There is some hesitation, some reflexive apprehension even the Scarred Queen does not know the source of. "I am sorry. I do not trust them, but I your judgment is the final word on the matter. I simply believe that only a hive drone should step foot within a hive, even a dead one, but yours is a new dynasty for a new age. I will try to leave behind my old inhibitions if you feel they impede our goals."

>Agree, out of respect, a dead Queen's hive should only be touched by another Queen, or her trusted creations
>Agree, they would not know what to look for, and may miss warning signs that would otherwise prevent a disaster
>Disagree, we can sift through the hive through their eyes. It is best if we keep our minds away from it until everything within is cataloged
>Disagree, psionic sensitivity is not the only metric of true life, they are sentient, and are close allies to the Hive
>Other (write in)
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>>1901136
>Agree, out of respect, a dead Queen's hive should only be touched by another Queen, or her trusted creations
>Agree, they would not know what to look for, and may miss warning signs that would otherwise prevent a disaster
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>>1901136
>>Agree, out of respect, a dead Queen's hive should only be touched by another Queen, or her trusted creations
She's right. We don't detect any risk to us and can bug out (heh) if we do. This is a hive matter, it must be dealt with as such.
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>>1901136
>Disagree, psionic sensitivity is not the only metric of true life, they are sentient, and are close allies to the Hive
>Other (write in) Deploy the Vaugh
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>>1901136
>Agree, they would not know what to look for, and may miss warning signs that would otherwise prevent a disaster

>>1901142
>Other (write in) Deploy the Vaugh
Now that's an idea worth considering.
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>>1901142
>>1901144
The last time things went tits up she wasn't any help at all, and we should be expecting a fight here. Better to leave her safe and secure.
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>>1901136
>Disagree, we can sift through the hive through their eyes. It is best if we keep our minds away from it until everything within is cataloged
>Other
"The lie that vision alone dictates life is a scar of our war with the enemy. We must be mindfull of what this war has taught us and how it has made us ignorant both. Now survival is the law that reigns."
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>>1901136
>>Agree, out of respect, a dead Queen's hive should only be touched by another Queen, or her trusted creations
>>Agree, they would not know what to look for, and may miss warning signs that would otherwise prevent a disaster


>>1901146
While I disagree with sending her, she was VERY helpful during the Nowhere Incident.
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>>1901146
Yeah, you're right. It wouldn't matter at this point I think.
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>>1901146
>>1901152
I say send her. Nomad has proven to be misstrusted from other species AND other queens. Second best aunt must have putted some kind of security. So in case the place has something to block a queen psionic network it would be worthy to have Vaugh there in case we get jammed.
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>>1901148
I would like to just point out that if sending in Theseus and relying on him to do the leg work would mean granting him unfettered access to whatever technological developments Nomad had stowed away. Tech that at the bare minimum includes gravity foils and thus nanotechnology.
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>>1901162
We don't need her there though. Only a drone with a memory crystal implanted into it.
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>>1901163
thats okay :)
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>>1901163
>nanotechnology
>which Heretic already had and thus Theseus too
While it no longer matters to what route we take at this point that is a poor example.
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>>1901136
>>Disagree, psionic sensitivity is not the only metric of true life, they are sentient, and are close allies to the Hive
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>>1901136
>Agree, out of respect, a dead Queen's hive should only be touched by another Queen, or her trusted creations
>Agree, they would not know what to look for, and may miss warning signs that would otherwise prevent a disaster
You know what I'm going to vote even though I care little at this point. Though I must point it's likely psionic knowledge.
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>>1901136
>>Agree, they would not know what to look for, and may miss warning signs that would otherwise prevent a disaster
The strongest reasons for sending them in are also the strongest against: incompatibility with psionics. Less risk of them being damaged, but a higher risk of them missing signs we wouldn't.
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>>1901172
You know, you raise an interesting point here. Logically we should expect that Heretic possesses intimate knowledge of nanotechnology and how to apply it, but we have yet to see any signs that Unity has employed them in any capacity. And I would expect the Unity with it's hard on for gravity manipulation and titanic space structures would use it prolifically.

I know it's unlikely but I suspect that Heretic never possessed intimate technical knowledge of the production and application of advanced nanomachinery. If that's the case the Unity would happily pay a mint for access to it.
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>>1901136
>>Agree, out of respect, a dead Queen's hive should only be touched by another Queen, or her trusted creations
>>Disagree, psionic sensitivity is not the only metric of true life, they are sentient, and are close allies to the Hive

Shit i'm late as usual.
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>>1901136
"Actually, I agree. While they are close allies of the hive, it may be prudent for the hive to deal with our own kind in these matters. They may miss some crucial component due to their blindness that may escalate the danger." You have a sudden realization of progress as your warriors have penetrated the outer hull and begin drifting into the structure. You quickly turn your attention to them.

The interior is dark, your drones relying on their other senses to navigate through the fossilized hall. The architecture is clearly hive in nature, its design not intended for any form of gravity or expense made for comfort. Even still, as your flies scout the halls, there is an order to it. You feel as if the halls radiate out from deeper within, as if its design is guiding you, regardless of your entrance, to a specific point. Your thinkers determine the mathematical formula for it, each hall set at just the right orientation so as to create the effect of constant inward progress, the halls spiraling outward from a central point despite being superficially random in nature.

>Ask Heretic about the Cluster
>Ask the Scarred Queen about the Cluster
>Continue onward in your survey
>Other
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>>1901190
>>Continue onward in your survey
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>>1901190
>add all to queue

we haven't talked with these guys very much comparatively. might as well get this all done in one go
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>>1901190
>Ask Heretic about the Cluster
>Ask the Scarred Queen about the Cluster
Time for important information.
And it feels like QD is trying to delay the discovery like something bad is going to happen.
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>>1901190
>Ask Heretic about the Cluster
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>>1901190
>Ask the Scarred Queen about the Cluster
I don't think Heretic would know anything.

>Continue onward in your survey
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My god I should not have come late, this all screams bad idea to me. White queen locked the memories away for a time that we would be ready to pursue with stable roots. She wanted us to be playing "macro" style in rts terms. Here we are with hotheaded anons rushing things.

Do you think we are ready to fight eldritch gods? Hubris I say! Overconfident and ignorant. We don't even have the expanse secured, let alone our reletively shabby economy compare to OQ. Our tech tree isn't even near ready for a certain war of attrition, are you all impatient because you think we played like secretive pussies for too long? There is a very good reason why we did that, and the reason is still there. We aren't ready for war, not against OQ, Ceph, gods, and support our efforts with the humans at the same time. We are young, with little time to grow while some of our enemies have had thousands of years of economic development.

Mark my words, when the coming shitstorm arrives we will not be ready. QD has dropped hints and warnings, even showed us the scale of conflict in flashbacks. When shit hits the fan and salt flows from our collective ass, the only ones at blame are these overconfident anons. We will point fingers at each other and none of them will come out to admit it.

One must wonder where all of our intelligence from the beginning of the quest went.
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>>1901201
It's honestly more of a lead into question if you're familiar with what those are.
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>>1901136
>Disagree, we can sift through the hive through their eyes. It is best if we keep our minds away from it until everything within is cataloged
>Other (write in) Send in the Vaugh.
Send the Vaugh to the 'dead' hive. Make sure she knows as much as we do about the situation.

Ping Theseus, tell him we found a telekinetic dropsuit that runs on canderon and begin joint research when possible.
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>>1901202
Melodramatic much?
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>>1901190
>>Continue onward in your survey
In the interests of getting to the bottom of this before the sun rises.
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>>1901202

Risk assessment. We're concerned that we're running out of time to properly get shit done before OQ and the void step up their game, and so we're taking calculated risks (that ARE acknowledged as risks) in an attempt to make sure we've got at least close to enough stuff to fight them off as opposed to being caught entirely with our pants down.

The Nowhere Incident SEVERELY rattled a lot of players' confidence in their timetable.
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>>1901208
I've always wanted to be a drama writer, can't help it.
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>>1901190
>>Continue onward in your survey
We already spoke to scarred queen about them briefly. Sounded like they also knew nothing about em. I mean we showed them the dead Cluster and was just as baffled. Only recognized one of its skins.
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>>1901206
Oh god damnit, I took too long to post. My point still stands though, Theseus drones with gravity based weaponry would be terrifying, and something I would love to see. (Apologies for the double post btw)
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>>1901214
Well i think you have a knack for it anon.
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>>1901208
Has it ever occurred to that you might be wrong? That this may be the mistake that kills us?
That your thoughts that we had to get were mistaken?
For what reason do you think that we couldn't delay this if only to get proper infrastruture and number of ships to fight with?
And for what reason would QD make this take so long if it was going cause something incredibly bad?
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>>1901202
>One must wonder where all of our intelligence from the beginning of the quest went.
You know it's funny, I often find myself thinking this even as I come to sharply different conclusions than other anons saying the same thing. You know what I think is really at the heart of the problem? I think this quest has gone for so long with so much material posted, everyone is just beginning to lose track of it all. It seems that every other major shitstorm we have boils down to 'nuh uh our technology can do X'. We've had so much tech revealed to us, over such a long period of time, in such ambiguous circumstances, that I'm starting to wonder if anyone playing this quest actually knows precisely what our capabilities are.

It doesn't help that the pastebins aren't updated anymore and little relevant information is posted on the wiki.
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>>1901226
that's one thing DAtS has over HQQ. Grave is somewhat consistent about keeping his pastebins updated if hard to decipher
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>>1901225
>Has it ever occurred to that you might be wrong?
Ditto to you buddy.
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>>1901212
>It took the both of them thousands of years to take down the WQ with nearly limitless resources and are now currently weakened horrible and are cautious of us because they can't fully understand
>LET'S FORCE THEM TO UP THEIR GAME.
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Should have secured the expanse first and built up our military/resources, and then gone this route. It would have only taken a few in game days.
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>>1901234
Yes I have and strictly speaking leaving it has vastly fewer and lesser risks.
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>>1901235
I don't necessarily agree with the course of action, I'm just noting what I think is the reason everyone's so antsy.

I don't exactly agree with your assessment either, mind.
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>>1901236
>It would have only taken a few in game days.
So...about six months or so real time?
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>>1901239
Heh.
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>>1901239
Yes. I see no problem with that.
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>>1901202
On the contrary, I think we're ready for more challenges. We're absolutely murdering on the scavenger front, and we've kicked obsidian queen arse every time we see her.

To get better we need a challenge to rise to, lest we get weak in hubris. We should get to purging both the cheph and the OQ now to gain advantage for the conflicts with their masters.
There's also prizes to be found and much to gain in doing so, as we need to expand and it's better to do it to our enemies.
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>>1901244
I do...
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>>1901238
What we are doing clearly makes us the biggest target. The playerbase feels like they want to feel the void's foot against their head.
>>1901239
And your point? It would be worth it and you know it.
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>>1901246
That's with the baby gloves on and everyone distracted anon. Against either focusing solely on us we'd lose.
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>>1901190
Your drones continue on, now more certain of their objective's location, but your curiosity burns in your mind. You find the link with Heretic still open, eagerly awaiting for the results of your search, and you send a quick summary of information.

"Entities have been found beneath the ice of Djin claiming to be Ancients akin to the Hive. They say they were one of three, as was the Hive, before the war."

"The war is all we have known." Heretic replies. "Our kind were guided to sentience. We have no history beyond what was forced upon us. We know no entity before the dead gods. The Enemy. We know only that they existed before us, and logically, the Hive would have as well, or there would have been no need for us."

"So you know nothing of the Cluster?" You ask again. Heretic seems to pause, taking time for a genuine effort to scrounge through all available memory.

"No, however there is data that may be related." You find the shifting syntax somewhat off-putting, Heretic's mind adjusting from moment to moment, as if altering itself on the fly. "When the Skyl were slaves, we were used as fodder in their war against the Hive. We held many silhouettes as known targets, all labeled as demons." You are given a mental image. A half sphere, like a massive shell, trailing tendrils of flesh like a massive jellyfish. The tendrils sing with psionics, propelling the shell on a wave of telekinetic force as spacetime ripples visibly behind it like a slipstream. It was known as a ship of the dead. It would collect souls lost in the deepest reaches of space in order to bring them to the gods. With your knowledge, and Heretic's own disbelief, it is obvious they were simply scavenging the wrecks of both sides, looting debris after battles, feeding on whatever materials could be found while being left alone by both sides. To harm one, or even approach into weapons range of one, was the greatest of heresies.

"That is their vessel." You say.

"It seems sound that a neutral entity would be avoided in battle." Theseus says. "Although it is odd that they would be permitted to salvage both sides."

"It is unknown why they would do so." Heretic adds. "Only that there is no record of a skyl harming one, or of it harming a skyl. It was a part of our dogma that they were invincible, and would tear apart the soul of any who would attempt to harm them. This is all that is known of them." You quickly send the information to the Scarred Queen, she seems even more surprised. Her own memories are entirely lacking, save the recognition of select adaptations held within the specimens you found.

cont.
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>>1901250
Baby gloves? We sunk a hive ship and much of her fleet, if anything we're wearing baby gloves. She could have easily brought more to bear given blink drives, but she didn't - which suggests she didn't have much else. We had her over a barrel and should have pushed and pushed hard.
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>>1901258
>Although it is odd that they would be permitted to salvage both sides.

I guess that is how the cluster keeped itself updated about the war and got nutrients to keep himself in a sleeping state.
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>>1901258
> It was a part of our dogma that they were invincible, and would tear apart the soul of any who would attempt to harm them. .
Smart.
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>>1901261
Yes and have we faced a full force attack from her? No she only sent a few ships and the sinking of her ship was too our detriment since if we pull it off we could have over taken her with her communications disrupted. But her focusing an attack on the only two planets we have colonized would end our destruction.
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>>1901261
Also we've seen her numbers. They are vast.
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>>1901246
The same arguement flipped on its head can be used against this. You gained too much hubris from winning miniscule toddler fights. Very classic pride before the fall scenario, down to the specifics.

But fine, if you are willing to come out and admit it when we are dealing with the aftermath of this and be a target for our salt venting then I will hear you out now. If it turns out well you can even have full bragging rights of the IMMEDIATE aftermath.

I will trust you to take responsibility regardless of outcome.
If you aren't willing to do this then don't even speak up.

Shall we start the wager?
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>>1901261
You aren't wrong.
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>>1901277
He is. Her numbers are at least 20x ours the reason she hasn't gone all out against us is she has many factors to consider.
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>>1901273
Insufficient Data to assume threat scale. Prior data has us at massive tech advantage. To assume OQs threat is as high as you suggest I believe additional scouting is required to take stock of force numbers.

Would you agree to reallocating resources to establish size of threat, and/or prepare actions for mitigation?

Additional thinkers requested for this consideration.
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>>1901258
Your drones alert you, their minds searching for new orders as they encircle the central point of the hive structure. It is a large, roughly hexagonal chamber with sealed doorways running around the rim, all hallways leading directly or indirectly to one of the surrounding entrances, and the chamber itself running most of the length of the hive itself along the other axis. Surrounding each doorway, scrawled in skyl script using the hive language, is a simple verse, one you realize is a smaller part of an ancient Skyl scripture.

Those who bring light may see, but are seen. Only the Blind may see in the Darkness and remain unseen.

Your drones examine the doorways, and the walls that surround them. The material is familiar, the same substance found in the labs of the Builder, a psionically absorbent material. The other side is clearly some manner of silence chamber. You wonder what other methods of obfuscation are held within as secondary protection.

>Send in your drones. Between the thinkers and your crystal brain technology there should be no problem maintaining contact
>Send Elizabeth, she can maintain control of the drones on the inside and is skilled in psionics herself
>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
>Other
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>>1901283
Oh shit. It's literally the abyss and people want to look into it.
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>>1901283
>>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
This is the only option that is Blind.

Elizabeth hasn't been blind in a long time.
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>>1901283
>Send Elizabeth, she can maintain control of the drones on the inside and is skilled in psionics herself
Elizabeth has been designed to be resistant and aqitted well at nowhere. If she is willing, send her.
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>>1901290
>Send her to hell
Are you MAD?
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>>1901283
>>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
Lets send in one with no skill in psionics, even removing a parasite if we must
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>>1901283
>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
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>>1901283
>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
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>>1901292
This is exposing her to potential void corruption from what it sounds.
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>>1901283
>>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
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>>1901294
She's a big girl she can take it.

But speaking seriously, you are right
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>>1901283
>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics
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>>1901298
Tis a risk, hence leaving the choice to her. Alternatively we could request AI assistance since we have found a reason to bring them in.
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>>1901304
Or disposable clones.
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Doesn't the posted warning want us to be as UNpsionic as possible while entering?

A human clone is the clear choice then. They are literally Blind as far as the Hive perspective goes.
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>>1901283
>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics

Semi-serious side option: revive Seiner and send him.
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Do we have any Seiner clones to send in? Or at least a clone with his skillsets downloaded?
>>1901308
My nigga
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>>1901306
It's really either human clone or robotic agent. Since we don't have direct control of the robotic agent, it's down to human clone.

Whoever this clone is ought to be the scientific type. They can help with research when they get back. Or join the Orphan crew, doesn't really matter to me.
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>designed to be resistant
And then got implanted with full psionic relay, completely overwriting any anti-psionic brain design any ancestors might have passed down.
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>>1901308
DUDE. YES.
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>>1901283
>Send in a human clone agent, they are disposable and loyal, if not the most skilled in psionics

You quickly dispatch a pod with a team of disposable clone agents. You sense some disappointment from Elizabeth.

"I know, it's functionally the same watching from here, but still." She says, her mind fixed on your drones as they pry open one of the doors ahead of the agent's arrival. The pod takes some time to move in from its arrival point, the nebula disrupting its navigation slightly. As your clones enter the hive your workers drag the Scavenger Brood mother is brought into the hive, the thinkers alerting Elizabeth as she quickly hushes their voices. The workers halt for a moment, waiting for detailed orders, and when none arrive they dump the body into the medical pod as your thinkers begin their study.

You lack a biological clone of Seiner, however with his memories a part of your own, it would be a simple matter to install his mind into a disposable clone body already on standby as part of the three man team being sent. (I rolled a d4, let me know if you want to change the number)

>Install Seiner's mind into one of the clones
>Do not
>Other
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As a side note, I'm glad we've got the context to

a) understand the Hive language using Skyl script
b) know what Blind means
c) be able to grow and send a human agent

>>1901310
>>1901319
It was kind of a joke because Elizabeth and Heretic both hate the man and everything he stands for, and reviving a clone in order to extract some kind of "punishment" on the formerly living doesn't really make sense. He's dead, we hunted him, Theseus told us to kill him, and we killed him.

That said, if Elizabeth is OK with it, I think it would be great.
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>>1901308
No. But i will agree in sending clone with Seiners skill set.
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I mean, once we have a human agent sent in to learn things.

Maybe send in a quantum relay with him so he can send messages back and forth. No parasite for obvious reasons.

We could then set up a private hive colony, under a layer of psionic insulation, somewhere elsewhere like a part of Farcast. In case we wanted to put Thinkers to studying what the human learned, under orders that while they can research and request nutrients and metals through the quantum relay, they won't tell us any results until we send the authorization code to take down the insulation now.

Which we hopefully won't do until shit already is on the fans.
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>>1901308
>>1901310
>>1901319
Now that I think of it this might be fun.
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>>1901321
>YES
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
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>>1901283
Okay listen, we have to send in a human without a parasite. If we use a psionic connection, there is a chance we can be seen again. However, if we send a human with no parasite that is loyal to us, and has no weird brain crystal shit going on, then they can remain unseen. Send Jackob. He seems reliable, just need to get rid of the parasite temporarily.
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>>1901321
>>Install Seiner's mind into one of the clones
Can we give him a qcom when he goes in there?
>>1901322
I just didn't want to send an version of Elizabeth lest she turn into a horror or something. I wouldn't want to read that...
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>>1901321
>>Do not
Amusing, but eh.

We install all our theoretical knowledge of psionics and the hints we've gotten about the nature of the enemy and knowledge itself being dangerous into these fanatically loyal clones, right?
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>>1901321
Couldn't we create a clone of him then
>Install Seiner's mind into the clone
We could use the time to build up.
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>>1901329
But Jackob isn't replacable.
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>>1901327
Sierner isn't loyal to us. And he might get mad about being you know...killed.
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>>1901321
What does Elizabeth think of the idea? I would consider asking Theseus, but I don't want to risk a diplomatic incident.

I've always read it as "I hate this person and want him dead for personal reasons" but now that I think about it a bit more, it could have been "I think this man is a detriment to society and harmful if in his current position."
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>>1901321
>Do not
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>>1901322
>Heretic
Anon. He's never met a human outside of Nowhere pirates.
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>>1901337
You know, we could still install a subconscious desire to never betray us
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>>1901341
Sorry, I meant Theseus.
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>>1901335
>>1901330
>>1901327
This is such a bad idea. But whatever. That is just my opinion.
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>>1901321
Fuck it
>install Seiner mind
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>>1901321
>>Install Seiner's mind into one of the clones
His entire skill set, hell his entire genetic lineage lends itself to this task. He's perfect.
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>>1901342
I dunno is late in my end i will just go to sleep. I might just cause more harm.
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THIS SPEAKER HAS ARRIVED LATE!

It appears to this speaker that we have come to an impasse on the topic of combat readiness against mother's enemies.

This speaker suggests we do as human thinker sun tzu once said. "KNOW THYSELF, KNOW THY ENEMY". This speaker knows itself, but this speaker does not know enemy. This speaker is clearly defective.

This speaker suggests that hive scout and gather information on enemy before coming to defective decisions. This speaker thinks that threat assessment will become very easy if this speaker "KNOW THY ENEMY" before this.

THIS SPEAKER IS GOOD AT SPEAKING TOO. THIS SPEAKER IS NOT THINKER.
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>>1901344
Now you know how I felt the ENTIRE time.
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>>1901349
We are currently standing in front of the gate to Hell.
I don't think you could make it worse.
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>>1901344
>>1901351
WELCOME TO LATE NIGHT HQQ LADS

ENJOY YOUR STAY
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>>1901353
In all seriousness, wtf brought about tonight's autism?

What the hell made anons here think opening the locked memories before time a good idea?
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>>1901354
Who says it's before time?

This is not meant to trigger the Final Fight.
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>>1901358
It sure as hell is worded like it, atleast the beginning of the end
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>>1901354
>before time
There's a big claim from you that we're not ready yet to open this can, but I don't really see how that's true. This memory has been available for a long time. This isn't an industrial complex that needs defense immediately. We're not accessing it with our own mind. We've got enough context to understand what all this stuff means. We've got fleets, we've got planets, we've got allies.
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>>1901321
>Install Seiner's mind into one of the clones
His knowledge and skills might be useful.
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>>1901354
When is the right time then? How do we know that opening those memories would lead to the end game when QD explicitly said that finishing the cannon does that?
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>>1901354
People are eager to progress a bit after being stuck on Gemini for so long, and again, it's a simple matter of risk assessment. It happens with most decisions, and most people won't come to the exact same conclusions as others. It's nothing malicious, or anything I'd even say grossly incompetent (if only because even if I disagree with the idea, I do understand the logic behind it)- it's simply a matter of disagreement as to how severe the risk is compared to our ability to mitigate the possibilities.

No one's purposefully trying to piss you off- but at the same time, you're still a face in the crowd, same we all are. I'm not telling you to just suck it up, but...well, that's how things go sometimes.
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>>1901354
Seems fine. What I'm questioning is not sending in Theseus and Heretic after seeing the writing and anti-psionic material. It pretty much says that the advantage for sending our own in (identifying psionic danger) will be negated, and we might as well see it through their eyes and direct them.
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>>1901354
I really don't know.
>>1901358
>The door basically says "abandon hope all ye who enter"
>This is not meant to trigger the Final Fight.
It's close enough.
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>>1901321
Aw jeez i'm late.
>Do not
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>>1901366
>What I'm questioning is not sending in Theseus and Heretic
Well, you see, the interface might be completely biological, in which case Heretic and Theseus would not be of much use.

It might be similar to the thing that Elizabeth touched, honestly. We have no idea if it would work on a robot or not.

(Which makes Siener doing it extra-ironic.)
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>>1901367
>*The door basically says "abandon hope all ye psychics who enter"
Fixed
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>>1901321
>Do not.
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>>1901362
We have only two planets colonized and most of the fleets are held up by the Scav war and Union.
We are in no shape for this.
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>>1901354
>>1901373
This. It would have only taken a few in game days to secure the expanse, and deal with our current agendas, and then we attempt this current course of action.
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>>1901375
and don't get me wrong, this quest has stalled and gotten bogged down a bit, but that doesn't mean we should make premature decisions. Continuing with our normal decision making would have been best.
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>>1901375
And how many real-life months? People are impatient with how long it takes to get back to plot threads. Too much is going on in parallel, too slowly.
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>>1901381
So we should add more shit to the pile? Because that's what this is.
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>>1901321
>Install Seiner's mind into one of the clones
Finally
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>>1901382
>sitting there for a while while things go on around us
>anons get a chance for a massive plot dump that they get to work for
>REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>1901381
That's a terrible reason to make bad decisions.
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Honestly, I feel like this won't be as bad as some folks are worrying. Not saying there's no chance, but if something bad happens, it won't be catastrophic.
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>>1901358
Learning the secrets within is all but explicitly going to let the Void look back far more intensely than it has ever been able to before.

The last time we looked, the last and only time we Saw them, they inflicted terrible psionic pain just looking right back at us through the void shard.

Them seeing us clearly and not through a glass darkly is bad juju.
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>>1901386
>implying I'm not sick of it too
None of that excuses what people have voted in this thread. We should have put off the this off until we were ready but here we are in front of this damned door.
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>>1901394
This is the last chance for me to be in a quest for months excu~~~se me for wanting action
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>>1901396
Excuse me for not wanting this quest to end because of your selfish desires.
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>>1901397
I feel like you are vastly overestimating the threat that going to this vault incurs. You would think that the WQ would say "Don't go here till you are ready" if it had a chance of ruining the rest the quest
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>>1901397
>end

I'm not one to rely on metagaming plot armor, but really. It's not ending here.
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>Install Seiner's mind into one of the clones

The pod locks in place in the underbelly of your corvette, and it opens. Two clones exit quickly, their minds and skills a default mixture of useful skills and loyal memories. They both turn to the third, his back plugged into an interface within the pod that quickly detaches from the ports along his spine where the environment suit seems to meld with the body, the bio-engineered skinsuit fully integrated into the nervous system for utility, comfort, and protection. The other two grab the clone by the arms, hoisting him up on his feet as the magnetic boots secure him to the floor. He looks about with a confused terror as your overwhelming consciousness looms over his mind.

"W-who are you, what happened?" He asks. "The facility, they..." He trails off, his eyes running along the biological suits of the other clones, then the walls of the ship's small hangar, and finally his own self, holding up his hands to examine his own matching spacesuit, feeling the integrated leathery flesh covering his hands as if it were his own deformed skin.

"I was... the nuclear strike..." He looks up at the other two clones with a pale, unfamiliar face and a look of ghostly terror in his eyes. "Am I dead?"

"Not anymore." Your clone replies. "We found a bit of a coal mine, and you're the canary. This way." They hoist him up and together begin to float through the ship's umbilical. Seiner darts his head around him, wide-eyed and unblinking as he looks at the abyssal darkness of interstellar space, and the vast, spider web construct looming ahead.

"What... What the fuck? What the fuck!" He shouts as the three enter into the hive and several wasps arrive, quickly gripping them like a set of backpacks as they propel them through the tunnels with their wings. Seiner screams, thrashing his limbs in a wild panic until they arrive at the door and one of your clones slaps him on the helmet and shakes his shoulder.

"Stop flipping your shit and get your head in the game!" Your agent shouts. "We just woke up too. You already got your orders in your head so start following them."

"No, no no no!" Seiner says, his voice cracking slightly. "I was, was at the lab, but there was a breach and... You... those things. The aliens!" He flinches free of the clone's hand, wobbling as the magnetics fight to keep him planet on the floor, the metal composition only just enough for them to function. "What happened? How long was it since the lab?"

"Don't know what you're talking about, we just have the mission's details, and that's all we need. So do you. Think about where you are and it will just seem obvious. Go with the first guess." Seiner squints at the clones, his mind racing with questions.

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>>1901399
And you underestimate it. This pretty much sounds like one of the things that could end the quest early. Just read the fucking post, it screams END TIMES.
>You would think that the WQ would say "Don't go here till you are ready" if it had a chance of ruining the rest the quest
Why the fuck wouldn't I?
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>>1901407
I do think it is dangerous. Thats why I wanted to be cautious and send someone we wouldn't miss and would be predisposed to this kind of work as well as being non-psionic
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>>1901408
All that's left is to hope for the best and pray everything doesn't spontaneously combust like our thinkers.
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>>1901403
Why did anons want this exactly?
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>>1901412
Spite?
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>>1901403
>He looks about with a confused terror as your overwhelming consciousness looms over his mind.

We don't have a parasite in him...do we? How else would the Queen loom in his brainmeats?

Hard to isolate knowledge if we stay hooked up to his mind once he's inside. We'll have to disconnect.
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>>1901412
Because it's interesting and he's the only scientific mind we have besides Elizabeth.
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>>1901412
Spite.
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>>1901403
>"Not anymore."

This is four thousand hundred keks but I kind of feel bad for him, as bad as one can feel about a new clone with someone else's memories. Hopefully Elizabeth shares our sense of humor.

It's like that Schwarzenegger movie where the lab kept re-cloning the clones that Schwarzenegger's character kept killing.

>>1901412
His entire career was built on trying to get a research team to Earth in order to prove some of his theories. His father worked on the psionic cannon, and was instructed by the White Queen. Given his last words before we killed him, his theories have to do with psionics. So he's about to find out a whole lot about psionics.
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>>1901413
>>1901418
For what?
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>>1901422
For one he is a dick. But I wanted him because he is a scientist and descended from the team that developed the cannon n the first place
>>1901420
I think it was his grandpappy, not pappy
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I just have to appreciate the layers of meaning that "Those who bring light" has. Those who are psionic, those who transmit tachyons, aka light accelerated past the natural speed of light.

And coincidentally Lightbringer is conveniently synonymous with Lucifer, who makes war against God in heaven.
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>>1901414
Anons wanted someone who didn't had psionic. If we sended a clone with a parasity it would have being better to send Liz.

But i must say i love how our clones except Siener's don't give a fuck about what is going on.
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>>1901423
>I think it was his grandpappy, not pappy
Yeah, you're right.

>>1901424
>light accelerated past the natural speed of light
Nice catch.
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>>1899816
>>1901396
Are you deploying to crush the Commonwealth incursion or something?
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>>1901424
Shits about to get biblical.
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>>1901427
Something like that...
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>>1901424
Eh nice one anon.
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>>1901424
But let's not forget about Prometheus to.
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"I was right." He whispers, his hand tracing along his throat as if inspecting for a wound. "We're... in the Nomad's Hive... but who is-"

"You know that too." Your clone says. Seiner's gaze trails off, tracing the bones set in the wall of the hive.

"A... dead Hive Queen." He looks back up to the clones, shooting frightened glances between them and the drones. "But how do I know that?"

"Same reason we do." Your clone says. "You were given the skills to perform a very specific job. The Queen wants someone expendable and unconnected to the Hive. That's us. Wasn't expecting your skillset to come with baggage."

"Also we don't know if the Nomad is dead, it's just very likely." The other clone says, and then looks to Seiner. "Now, you've got your orders. What's the one thing you really want to do right now?"

"What I want?" Seiner asks, confused.

"Yea, just relax, and think to yourself what is it you really want to do right now." Seiner looks down again, examining his skinsuit of skin and chitin.

"I want..." He trails off, his gaze drifting to the sealed doorway. "I want to know what's in there." He says. "I want to know what's inside the silence chamber." He grips his head with his hands in a sudden confusion. "Wait, why? Why do I want that? That's dumb, we need to leave, we need to get back to Union space, but..."

"Because that's what the Queen wants, so it's what you want." Your clone says.

"Now that you're unplugged from the pod, you've got no link to the hive other than what it gave you. Your job is to figure out what's through that door, our job is to make sure you stick to your script." The warriors dig their claws into the doorway, finally digging through enough to pry them open. The flex, slowly, with creaking, decayed joints, until they swing out. On the other side is another door, this one pure metal, its form sleek and reflective almost like a mirror. The short hallway to it is equally metallic. You feel Seiner's fear begin to dissipate, overwhelmed with a sudden rush of curiosity.

"This isn't right. This material... is it..." He hops forward, drifting through the hall as he scrapes his hand against the wall to the door. "It is. Look, you can see the lattice work. This is a carbon nano-structure. The whole wall is essentially one giant diamond. It's the same material the Ark was made of." He looks to the other clones with confusion. "I... I know that. I don't know how but I do. This was meant to out live the Nomad while still being functional." He gives the other clones a long look, as if waiting for some response that will make sense of everything, or perhaps, for this to be a dream, or the hallucinations of a dying man as he bleeds out in the air vent of his laboratory. The walls remain firm, the drones chitter with no sign of vanishing, and the clones return a look of impatience as Seiner glances away, as if he had forgotten what he wanted to say.

cont.
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>>1901434
>. "Wait, why? Why do I want that? That's dumb, we need to leave, we need to get back to Union space, but..."

>"Because that's what the Queen wants, so it's what you want." Your clone says.

Okay i will admit...i didn't expected this to be this fun.
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>>1901434
Hey wait.

Some humans are downright psionically resistant above and beyond the common population.

Did we design that feature into the custom clones, so that even their thoughts seem muffled?

Since resistance a mix of both genetics and environment. https://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/136850819877
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>>1901437
Fucking with minds is always fun.

Lol captcha.
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>>1901440
We did want truly blind humans. And since we are very very good at genetics i think we might avoid the fails that were caused by nature and destroyed/weakend mom's genetic tempering
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>>1901444
* that destroyed/weakend mom's genetic tempering

Ah fuck it i will just grab some coffe i can't sleep anyway.
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>>1901441
And people still didn't want to parasite Dillon without consent!
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hot damn, actually managed to catch whats probably the tail end of a thread, after two months of catching up.
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Guys...I think we made the first right choice in the entire thread by revealing Seiner and senting him in.

As for bad choices, the thinker was oblivious meant to reveal memories to us after OQ death. The thinker didn't want anything so much but to see OQ gone.

Secondly white queen told that we should be untamed, ignorant and forget the old hives ways...we went directly against this, by listening scarred queen.

And lastly robots or true humans would had been so much better choise to go in, as you know "blind", but atlest hive agents that /hopefully/ do not have any connection to hive psionically work aswell.
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Good night everyone! See you either tomorrow morning or November!
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>>1901455
Good night and/or good luck, fellow thinker.
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>>1901454
>As for bad choices, the thinker was oblivious meant to reveal memories to us after OQ death. The thinker didn't want anything so much but to see OQ gone.
Not like I haven't been saying this the entire fucking thread.
So what? Are you going to agree with me that we should check the Crystals on P2?
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>>1901455
Night anon, hope to see you tomorrow!

>>1901454
>we went directly against this, by listening scarred queen.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, I don't really think that listening to scarred queen means we aren't wild or untamed.
> lastly robots or true humans would had been so much better choice to go in, as you know "blind"
You're probably right, but it's too late now, and even if we had, we wouldn't be have as much information if anything goes wrong (granted, going wrong in this case would mean more knowledge of the void.)
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>>1901434
YEEEES caught it live!

Also Seiner, get yo ass in that there chamber, we got bigger fish to fry.

Anyone else wish for more ship backup in case of unwelcome intrusions? Whether it's from our own shipyards, or one or two Theseus or Heretic ships? Because that line, 'be prepared to defend it' is quite ominous.

I'm expecting Ceph or Scav raiders, but BQ is not out of the question too.
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>>1901434
Seiner moves to the second door. It is a large, imposing archway, hexagonal in shape, its metallic form perfect in design, a strange sight for any hive construct. Sure enough, upon close inspection the seams become visible, thought not to a naked human eye, but clear to Seiner's new eyes, even in the dark with only the luminescence of their suits to go by. It was no question, the material was the same. On its own, the carbon nanolattice was impressive, but brittle. Such a structure would stand the test of time, and survive wear and tear well after any organic structure had dissolved, but it would fracture under any kind of weapons fire. The Ark had suffered extensive damage from its crash, although its design made sure that the interior was perfectly intact, sacrificing some of the outer hull to the impact damage. This seems to be of a similar design, using no organic material. For a Queen, this would be difficult to produce.

Seiner runs his hands along the surface, examining a number of strange symbols set within the surface of the doorway. It is mostly skyl script, using vague illusions largely lifted from Skyl religious texts, if only from an apparent lack of descriptive skill on the part of the old Queens. Translating thought into written words is difficult in the best of times, and you know your mother was not the most creative of Queens. Seiner mutters the words, astounded at his own ability to read a dead alien language he has never seen before, let alone heard spoken, yet there he was, muttering the words as if to prove it to himself, at least the parts of the words the human speech organs could accommodate.

"It says 'child of white enter, and be free.'" Seiner says.

"What's that mean?"

"The white queen." Seiner says. "It's from some text about a prophet from Skyl legend, but the color mentioned is the same."

"So, it's for our Queen?"

"Ye-no. no not quite. This has a double meaning. 'child' in this case could mean both literal, as in progeny, or as a hierarchical term, meaning servant, a lower individual who owes their life. It's often used to refer to the Skyl when speaking of their place as a servile species." His eyes are wide with amazement, the knowledge coming to him as if by divine inspiration. "This means 'servant created by the White Queen', not literal child. It means human." His face twists with a sudden pain as his hand finds the contact in the center, and the metal retracts into the doorway, leaving an imprint of his hand. "Oh my god." He whispers.

The door begins to slide back, its form floating smoothly with no apparent track or mechanism until is is floating just past the door frame, leaving a gap several meters deep. Seiner stumbles forward, and with a sudden motion, falls to his knees, the magnets on his boots unneeded in a sudden display of mild gravity attuned exactly to that of Earth.

cont.
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>>1901455
Good luck, wherever you may be going.
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>>1901464
Still waiting for that vote you promised last thread.
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>>1901462
I REALLY WANT TO SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING, but I also need to get some sleep for tomorrow... fugg
>>1901464
Thanks QD. How's your heart going?
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>>1901387
It's almost like people are more interested in having fun than in winning.
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>>1901468
Winning is fun. Only losers say otherwise.
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>>1901468
Plus, in this case if might have been both fun and a win.
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>>1901462
>illusions
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>>1901462
I...I'm having real difficulty expressing how much I'm enjoying this.
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>>1901469
So you only have fun if you win the match?
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>>1901462
>SEND YOUR FAVORITE LITTLE SIBLING

WE SHOULD HAVE SENT LEE OR ELIZABETH, FUCK ME WHAT WERE WE THINKING?!
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>>1901475
>sending psionic people where we were told not to send psionic stuff
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>>1901475
Lee was fucked by the Union into becoming psionic.

Elizabeth touched the thing in the Ark that made her psionic.

Neither are viable candidates.
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>>1901475
Neither is really human anymore.
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>>1901475
>WHAT WERE WE THINKING?!

That we didn't want one of the phew humans we like to die?
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Make note people: do NOT reconnect Seiner to hivemind.
Let him do the report verbally.
Maintain isolation.
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>>1901474
Is throwing the game fun? No. Only if you to win can truly understand what fun is and here your "fun" could end the fun for other people.
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>>1901479
*two of the phew humans

God i will go get more coffee
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>>1901479
>>1901478
>>1901477
>>1901476
Fair enough. I guess we didnt miss out on a chance to put a cute little bow and a superweapon on lee's collar then.

Crisis averted
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>>1901482
>phew
It's few.
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>>1901480
Yes, for sure. CloneSeiner and KerriganElizabeth are going to need to sit down for a chat. Or at least CloneSeiner and a speaker, although Elizabeth is going to barge in anyway.
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>>1901481
Dear anon. I know you are frustrated. But what is done is done. Let's just roll with it.
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>>1901484
As i said. More coffee.
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>>1901481
Are you genuinely butthurt about this? I didn't even vote to open this can of worms. I only started voting to only bring in clones
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>>1901466
I look forward to it after plot happens anyway. Would be nice to get something minor but neglected out of the way.
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>>1901491
>>1901466
What was the vote again?
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>>1901487
>>1901490
Is this still happening? I blocked him hours ago. If hes still blathering about the game ending despite where we are right now its pretty obvious you shouldnt be giving him (you)s
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>>1901491
>minor
I don't think you know what that word means.
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>>1901493
>implying that's what I'm talking about and even then it's actually true if we actually went it would have been end times for the quest.
>blocking me
Now I can feels some pride that limp wristed faggot blocked me like he's SJW on twitter.
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>>1901501
You're just constantly proving why no one should listen to you
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>>1901492
Getting the crystals on P2 to research which is so easy and minor it only takes one post and few sentences to get done.
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>>1901481
>implying your definition of "win" is the same as ours.
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>>1901501
Such a glorious amount of butthurt. Thanks for the response about the vote tho
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ITT anon gets overly upset over people having different agendas to them
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>>1901462
"Oh my god." He whispers again. "That's it?" He looks up at the two clones as they enter the chamber, as if the question he just received the answer to was as obvious and horrifying to everyone else in the room as it was to him.

"Is that it? Making a weapon for their war? That's what we're here for? What my grandfather died for."

"And what you were brought back for." Your clone says. Seiner is lost in thought, his mind fighting with itself to remain focused. Your other clone leans in, snapping his fingers.

"You still with us? You need to tell us what all this is." Slowly the image comes into focus, a massive crystal, glowing brightly with a warm light. It shifts, humming slightly, its changing shapes rippling within its form with a sound like knives sliding together. Within, you can see the shape of the crystal, like the cut lines of a diamond. They move, and near the center, liquefy, then reform.

"Hey, seiner, what do you make of this?" Your clone says. Your other pulls out a sidearm.

"This thing dangerous? We can't let it infect the hive any more than it already has if it is." You feel a sudden rush of excitement. Elizabeth's mind flows forward with yours, grasping for a closer look than you will allow.

"I've seen that before!" She says. "I remember that!" She pulls at the memory, faint, confusing, lacking context, but still there. Queens surround a massive white crystal as they direct their thoughts towards it, and invert it, pulling it in impossible ways at unsettling angles. "That thing, it's just like what I saw in my fragmented memories. It's like the void shard, but... dormant. Like it's not activated." Elizabeth urges your drones to examine it, but they deny her mind, your own thoughts keeping them outside of the chamber and away from any direct exposure, even as your clones remain within range of your reading, if only slightly. Seiner struggles to get up, his body still unused to the sudden gravity.

"I don't know what it is." He says. "But I can feel it."

"Yea, me too." Your clone says as he waves his sidearm vaguely towards his own head while keeping it pointed to the ceiling. "That's why I'm asking if we should pull the plug."

"No, no this is... different." Seiner says. "It seems to be powering this room, but it's more solid than a void shard. Whatever it is, it's the reason we're in here, so we need to... interface with it somehow. Physical contact, maybe? That worked with the last artifact, and without psionics there's not much else to make the connection with."

>Interface with the crystal
>Do not
>Other
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>>1901523
>>Interface with the crystal
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>>1901523
>>Interface with the crystal
I can think of only 1 anon who isn't going to push the big red button
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>1901523
1 - Interface with the crystal
2 - Do not
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Also, fugg, I need to go to bed right now. Good night for realzies this time
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>>1901523
>Have a NOT-ASSHOLE clone interface.
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>>1901474
To be honest, that attitude says a lot about that anon. Explains a lot too.
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>>1901528
Seiner would be best for this as he would be most qualified to describe what happens afterwards
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>>1901523
>pull Seiner out, bring Lyle in, bring him up to speed on how humans are weaponsmiths designed by the Hive, and get him to interface with it.
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>>1901523
we've come too far down the rabbit hole to turn back around.

>Interface with the crystal

FOR MOTHER
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>>1901523
>"Is that it? Making a weapon for their war? That's what we're here for? What my grandfather died for."
Whoa there buddy, hold up. This war decides if sentient all/most creatures end up enslaved by the Void or if you can even get a chance to meaning in your own existence. And if we don't actually get that weapon up and running, you can kiss all of that (and your grandfather's work) goodbye.

>Interface with the crystal
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>>1901534
I'd agree with you, but given that we have at best only guesswork as to what this does, I don't want to risk losing him.
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>>1901534
This has merit.
If for no other reason then that I trust Lyle more.
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>>1901523
Also, before interfacing, CLOSE THE DOOR.
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>>1901534
>"Can you at least tell me what the fuck is that weapon?"
>"It is the cannon that cracked the moon in half."
>Lyle's boner rips through his power armor
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>>1901538
We start by downloading all of Lyle's memories so that we can bring him back if shit hits the fan?
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>>1901542
Hadn't thought of that actually.
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>>1901541
>''And we need to make it stronger.''
>Lyle cums with enough force to kill a man.
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>>1901523
>Do not

Not really an option to pull out anymore. As it would take half an year to put together an group of organic, loyal, human scientists, but that would be safer thing to do.

As everyone wants to move the story forward and I will be outvoted, lets just never connect Seiner back to hivemind. Should be close enough to true blind.
some fag starts spamming every thread of daily reminder to open Seiners memories
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>>1901523
>Other: What are you waiting for? You know what it will do if it's like the otherisn't this the anwser you were always looking for Seiner?

>Interface with the crystal
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So, all in favor of dragging our least favourite psycho out of there and bringing our favourite adopted son in(without his parasite)?
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>>1901549
I second this motion.
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>>1901523
>>Interface with the crystal
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>>1901549
Nah.
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>>1901523
>>Do not
Futile though it is.
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>>1901549
Eh, nah.

>>1901523
>Interface with the crystal
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>>1901549
I'm not against it, but I don't know if there is any significant benefit to him having the knowledge that's (probably) stored inside it.
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>>1901545
>and we need to do it to kill a so called god
>Lyle keeps cumming making a ahegao face.
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>>1901546
>some fag starts spamming every thread of daily reminder to open Seiners memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpJOxbaC8YU
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>>1901523
>Interface with the crystal
Let The Seiner clone do it.
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>>1901549
Nah Seiner is only real option to interface with crystal.
Lyle is soldier, not an scientist
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>>1901523
It's probably a memory seed and we're about to upgrade whoever touches it.
Seiner can touch, though I'd prefer Liz.
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>>1901560
>"Your species was created for the sole purpose of killing a god and reconquering the galaxy."
>Lyle faints as his body struggles to divert blood to his brain from the hardest boner of his life.
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>>1901565
If it is, all the more reason not to let Seiner touch it.
I do not trust him.
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>>1901546
I know how you feel, its been the same feeling I've had this entire thread. Disaster waiting to happen.
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>>1901523
>Interface with the crystal
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>>1901567
>>1901560
>>1901545
>>1901541
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>>1901570
Lyle or other agents are not any better, they could not use the knowledge without our mind..in which case we could just go ahead an touch the crystal ourselfs to speed up our doom.

I been saying this starting from nowhere, we really need an group of non-parasited loyal humans for this kinda things.
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>>1901571
I agree, best would have been to leave all of this until later, even waiting until next week would have been enough.

The problem is that we decided to approach it and by doing so, I feel we have exposed "it", whatever it might be, in the grand scheme of things.

Turning to this path was a mistake, turning back from it now that we have started down the path would be an even greater mistake.
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>>1901577
We can make as many clones as we want, and that'll solve that.
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>>1901523
>Interface with the crystal

And with that, I think is the perfect cliffhanger for tonight to end on, especially since it's 5:30 in the morning. I'll see if I can finish up this thread either tomorrow, or sometime this week at least with a midweek thread, along with some of the other stuff we need to take care of. I'll stick around for a bit for any questions, comments, feedback and the like.
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>>1901577
>we really need an group of non-parasited loyal humans for this kinda things.

I wonder how Elizabeth would feel about having a twin of herself walking around, just without all the extras.
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>>1901581
>I'll see if I can finish up this thread either tomorrow, or sometime this week

Cool.
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>>1901581
Thanks for running. Just got done with the archives, was a great read.
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>>1901581
Thanks for the thread BestDrone.
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Will be holding that vote you promised?
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>>1901581
>>1901581
Question: How excited were you that people finally voted to bring Seiner back?
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>>1901582
We can always ask if she would mind. At least one to serve as a body double. Maybe we should give Lee some of these too.
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>>1901581
GG and thanks for running
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>>1901581
>I'll see if I can finish up this thread either tomorrow, or sometime this week at least with a midweek thread
Oh please yes

>>1901591
Will it make you truly happy?
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>>1901581
Thank you for running QD, its good to have you back.
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>>1901592
Why even bother deploying real Lee ever then?
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>>1901582
Ooooh, that'd be cool. Make a mostly-human Liz and introduce our black ops (lyle and pals) to her, then have her switch out with actual Liz to fuck with them and see their reactions.
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>>1901581
Question: I know you like when anons go balls to the wall and forget anything close to being cautious. How excited were you during this whole thread?
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>>1901581
So can we create psionically resistant clones? Rare though their uses are.

These ones don't seem to be resistant individuals.
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>>1901598
Nigga, we got a message from our mom saying "unleash the beast!", and we unleashed it.
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>>1901596
I guess the body double would go to places/reunions were there is a high risk for Lee safety. But you are right Lee might think he's replaceble aince we can clone a new him.
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>>1901598
>>1901591
Quite a bit.

>>1901590
Most likely after we finish up with the current scene in the midweek thread.
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>>1901602
Our only adopted child that is truly unreplaceable is Liz, since she got uplifted by the gardener's crystals.
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>>1901599
Aren't humans resistant to psionics? Or at least their main intention was to be so? We can also clone phatons so we can have phantons spec ops a d use then against OQ's.
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>>1901606
Phantom Chimera would be pretty spooky-scary
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>>1901605
Wasn't Lee altered by the humans experiments with psionic? I guess Liz was a more invasive/bigger alteration.
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>>1901608
Yeah I think he started out with that eye implant that the agent Yune (I think that was their name) had but then we refined it and helped work out the bugs.
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>>1901607
Imagine phatom chimera's raiding OQ's system and planting nukes inside her Hive. Or at least at her supply facilities.
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>phantoms
You know, I wonder if a Phantom clone would have worked here.
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>>1901604
>Quite a bit.

Eh, never change best drone.
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>>1901608
Eh, we improved and stabilized what was done to Lee, which basically made him equal to a highly advanced drone, while Liz was uplifted to be a Queen-equivalent for a lesser species in case the OQ won the war.
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>>1901614
Speaking of which, was there ever any discussion on replicating the process that "uplifted" Liz?
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>>1901617
Why would we want to bring any one of the filthy monkeys up to our favourite daughter's level while we're still raising her?
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>>1901618
Everyone someone trots out the 'filthy monkeys' line, I think Frieza from DBZ.
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>>1901618
I think it's more in we want to research everything. But uplifting other humans can come once we have dealt with OQ's.

Besides it isn't for the monkeys. Gardner wanted to give it for the Raligah. So i guess we could at least find one and uplift him?
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>>1901581
Thanks for running, it was great, even if I disagreed with next to everything anons voted for.

Say would it be possible to put an double vote for certain things? There is large playerbase spread on different time zones, and certain decisions could use an bigger option than just anons that are online at the time. Say, for psionic cannon and running head first into any void fuckery. There are enough things to do meanwhile, even if we let some vote to boil over to next thread
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>>1901618
Out of curiosity? Literally to see if we can do it or not and discard the resulting "slightly less filthy monkeys".

Plus, who knows what Lyle would be able to accomplish with a task force of Chimera's if he had the same crystal upgrades as Liz.
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>>1901619
Humans are nothing but hairless and tailess and a little bit more smart monkeys.
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>>1901624
>tailess
we can "fix" that pretty easily.
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>>1901624
With better hands that can ball up into fists. Maybe better wrist movement too.
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>>1901628
And with feet that gave up climbing and grabbing for more versatility.
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>>1901623
Okay... yeah, I can support uplifting our best son.
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>>1901581
Great thread thanks for running again.
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WHAT HAS BEEN WILL BE
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>>1901581
>Interface with the crystal
Oh shit, I missed the thread yesterday and scrolled to the bottom and we're doing WHAT now?
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>>1901878
Yes we're interface with a crystal that mindraped our race into submission.
Got a problem with that?
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>>1901912
Your shitposting is weak anon.
Of course you're going to be even more salty than I have ever been in my life if this does end horribly because not only will my views have been validated and the only thing I love more than winning and the exploration of ideas are train wrecks and this one will one the most glorious if it comes to pass.
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>>1901922
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>1901922
Man, you're coming off as kinda a giant asshole.
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>>1901925
It's intentional
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>>1901925
Pretty sure he is.
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>>1901202
I blame the migration to qst. We dont get the same calibur of stratigic planning from qst goers like you do from fa/tg/uys. I agree that it is too soon to start the doomsday clock, should atleast have psi cannon prototype stabalized BEFORE pissing on the door step of some eldritch void gods.
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>>1902365
Agreed. This same over-eagerness and lack of patience is what killed Tide of Ages quest, before the GM broke down.
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>>1902365
>>1902539

I agree that the quality of planning has gone down but I don’t think it’s fair to blame that entirely on the migration qst.

The biggest reason Anons are more eager to push the big red button probably has more to do with how the quest has slowed down over time. Looking at the archive: 42 thread “days” in the quest passed between April 2014 and April 2015 (even more if we count the time-skip to build ships). With events moving at this pace long-term planning like terraforming planets in a process that takes 10 days or slowly infiltrating the Union politically makes sense. We can see the payoff and results of our actions in a reasonable time-frame and with days “advancing” so quickly it’s reasonable to look to the future.

Contrast that with what’s going on now. Since we made first contact with the Union in July 2016 only 6 days have passed. At this rate a two week plan to build a structure or expand in the Expanse would take years IRL. With such a long gap between the initiation of a plan and its execution details will be forgotten and the whole purpose of the original plan may be lost. In the face of this it’s understandable that some Anons would jump on the “Let’s Do Something important now” track rather than playing the waiting game for a payoff they might never see.

A lot of the slow-down isn’t QD’s fault due to his health problems and the delay after the tg to qst switch - and the quest overall is still amazing - but the pace needs to pick up if people are going to begin planning cautiously again rather than scrambling after whatever plot element QD dangles in front of them.

That being said, even though risky and probably unjustified given we still have time to prep as far as we know, I suspect we've made far worse decisions than this (such as Nowhere).
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>>1902596
I agree. We need to either do less each day, require less votes to do things, or need QD to run more often, as to finish the "days" faster.
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>>1902624
Yeah never thought to see DATS pass HQQ in terms of content and progress
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>>1902628
DATS is SCREAMING along in progress. A shitload has been happening lately, and quickly.
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>>1902624
One possibility might be if QD takes advantage of the slow speed of the qst board and runs a thread multiple times per week for shorter periods rather than just one exhausting marathon thread each Sunday.

Alternately, we could either spend less time on each "scene" or, as you suggested, limit our direction to only the most important topics each day and accept a lot will be going on behind the scenes we can't be involved in.
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>>1902596
>I suspect we've made far worse decisions than this (such as Nowhere).
I firmly believe that this one is worse since, if you look at the situation, the artifact people want to interact with is handled in a very strange and roundabout compared to Void Shards. Void shard can be thrown into virtually any old vault and be contained but for this one the old queens went through great efforts to build a completely inorganic structure just to contain it.
Nobody has even thought about that yet.
And then there is the fact Elizabeth is freaking out about it because it's the same thing that overtook and killed the ancient hives.
What people don't realize is we're dealing with an extinction level biohazard and we just told some clone to go poke it.
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>>1902964
Sounds like a normal sunday afternoon for us to be honest.

Frankly people need to chill.
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>>1902967
>Sounds like a normal sunday afternoon for us to be honest.
Not even remotely. This is by far most dangerous thing we've ever dealt with (only thing more dangerous than this is Them which we never had to do) and the players are not even a little cautious with it which is wildly out of character mind you.
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>>1902984
No, prodding dangerous shit is normal for us.
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>>1902984
Hang on. I agree we're investigating this too early, but if our Mother never wanted us to go there she would have deleted rather than suppressed that information. The object is clearly designed to be interacted with only by pure humans, which we are doing. If we were abandoning all caution we would have sent the drones in or Elizabeth.
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>>1901515
Tbf when multiple conflicting agendas are permitted to influence the direction of a story important and or key assets are often lost to autism, infighting and QM jollys
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>>1903016
How many of those things did we know were dangerous?
>>1903018
>The object is clearly designed to be interacted with only by pure humans
I think it's more of a case of humans being designed to interact with the object.
>>1903055
Banished quest proved that multiple conflicting agendas is a recipe for a shitshow.
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>>1901606
I already linked this earlier in the thread anon. https://ask.fm/QuestDrone/answers/136850819877
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>>1903070
Before Soma canned it, the only reason the quest wasn't prematurely ended multiple times was because of fucking miracle dice rolls.
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>>1903070
Banished Quest was born on /b/. It was born a shitshow, nothing anybody did would have stopped it from becoming one.
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>>1901571
Thats why I stopped voting 15 threads back, one voice cant overpower autism on 4chan. Now i just read the story and shake my head at the dumb shit people do, same for death among the stars. People do dumb shit, go autistic when you prove them wrong and just screech your caution is just badwrongfun, etc etc. Nvm that careful methodical science can be fun too, because fuck caution.
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>>1903173
If this were real life, Id tell you to get that holier than thou sarcastic shit sorted out because it makes you sound like a prick and an asshole.
But it isnt. This is the internet. Instead ill tell you that crying that you are outnumbered doesnt really make me feel any better for you, because you are outnumbered, and this is a collaborative game posted on the internet.

You have a problem with mob rule, which has been the name of the game from the start, go fuck yourself.

So man up or GTFO
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>>1903183
Look out we got a tough guy over here.
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>>1902596
Hmm good points, however i do not know qd in person so i cant really agree with more or less threads. Would fucking LOVE to see one last longer tho
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>>1903183
Case and point manlet. I dislike the irrational flow, I stated my opinion and was bashed for it. Your assumption that I precive my self as something special is also wrong bucko, If I WAS special id have some fullproof pkan that no one would disagree woth, however i am only one voice, and I do not know everything. I simplely belive that unless I join the trending vote, any long term planing, any carefully laid out plan, is null in void bevause newfriend anon wanted" to do the thing now!"
Granted >>1902596
Pointed out a very good point, and did so eloquently...while you get pissy becaused I voiced an opinion. I bet your a bigger bitch in person then you are behind your screen.
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>>1903233
Personally, I think we've been absurdly paranoid and keep slow walking things with the relations with every outside power.
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>>1901614
>Eh, we improved and stabilized what was done to Lee, which basically made him equal to a highly advanced drone
He's unable to transmit tachyons and is actually more vulnerable to active control/persuasion attempts. I'd hardly call it equal to an advanced drone.
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I completely agree with all of this. The quality of the quest overall, and subsequently the quality of strategic planning by the playerbase, has taken a noticeable hit since the pacing has slowed down. Getting anons to think about the consequences of their actions will require us to get back to the days where their planning and actions had visible impacts on the quest itself. If it takes 3 months IRL for any sort of plan on our part to bear any fruit, then we're never going to see the sort of thinking that made this quest really shine.
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>New Construction Options
Every time I read this I hear it in CABAL's voice.
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>>1903351
Agreed.

Frankly, we need to limit ourselves in the number of things handled per day in order to get back to a speed where long term planning is appealing again.

Today, for example, we should probably be able to wrap up in just one more thread (or even during the mid-week if QD is feeling particularly ambitious). The only events we really *need* to cover is telling the Union about the spore growth on Path and "rescuing" the Cluster from the lab on Path.

Everything else we might want to cover - like descriptions of the CW battles, meeting with the Valen again, deciding what to do about Kent, reaching a diplomatic arrangement with the Cluster, etc. - can either be done another day or done off-screen. While it'd be great to see some of those events the most important thing is that we rebuild momentum.
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>>1901472
He meant "allusions".
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>>1903266
I agree to some extent there, I feel that we have missed out on a asston of potential cloak and dagger stuff because we have been so cautious about it. Though you have to admit our advisary hasnt exactly been the type we want to broadcast to everyone about. If I am understanding it correctly the void gods, much like chaos, are corruptive, even in the form of knowledge. So even knowing of em puts ya at risk, ergo the caution.
Some more flaunting our might would be fun, as would more queen on queen warfare.

QD I thank you greatly for all the stories, I hope your health is faring better then my now burnt to the ground neigborhood. I do so love hive quest and ypur stories bring me much joy.
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>>1903758
>I feel that we have missed out on a asston of potential cloak and dagger stuff because we have been so cautious about it.

Yeah, the espionage mechanics are clearly far more developed than the degree we've taken advantage of them.
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>>1903296
It might be the closest that humans can get without taking the full plunge and becoming like our best adopted daughter.
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>>1903758
You live on Path?
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>>1903173
I disagree that DATS does dumber shit. in there jadek and his generals to my count have only done 1 mega stupid thing that ended badly. the rest either was negligible in effect or was repaired.

here however, the queen does need to be more careful as unlike the lich lord, she can be damaged through her connection to her drones. so this makes the poking a potential "super" void crystal stupider than if it were done by a reconstructed.

and a side note, I would suggest putting siners mind in a clone whenever something delicate needs doing. like this crystal room, he figured out the warning in a minute or less. and if he were to die...... then we can just do it again while having him be punished for opposing us.
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>>1904269
To be fair, this is a super crystal we were supposed to find as our mother left us clues to its location. If she never wanted us to find it she wouldn't have ordered the thinker to destroy rather than sequester that information.

We're also using humans to interact with this crystal - a task our mother specifically designed them for - rather than Elizabeth or drones.

>>1903767
Agreed. Maybe we can hold a vote after the mid-week thread on where we want to expand our espionage. In general we have probably been too cautious with regards to spying and infiltration and not cautious enough when it comes to studying the Void.
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>>1901523
pull Seiner out, bring Lyle in, bring him up to speed on how humans are weaponsmiths designed by the Hive, and get him to interface with it.
>we really need an group of non-parasited loyal humans for this kinda things.
>Do not
>Do not start the doomsday clock before even stabilizing a prototype of the cannon
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>>1904652
>Having the lovable muscle interface with a crystal that likely contains knowledge and sensations that he would have difficulty fully comprehending
>Wanting to not use one of the humans greatest minds, who we have a mental copy of from only a few minutes ago relative to his mind,interface with goody crystal
I love Lyle,but he is most definitely NOT suited for this.Lyle will be repeatedly sent into harms way,so if this item imparts something to him,it would also put it into harms way. The only person better suited for this is Elizabeth,but she is disqualified since she isn't "technically" human anymore.

In regards to prior anons hate for Seiner,I actually liked him. He was curious about the Hive and respectful,up until he was given drones to dissect. However,he was GIVEN the drones via Killenger's manipulation,so he didn't necessarily order it. Also, he first tried to talk to it, instead of jumping straight to vivisection. True, he did resort to it, but he didn't fully understand how much he fucked up until we started to prove his suspicions. Also, his backstory makes me feel sympathetic to him:he wanted to know what the hell his grandpa was working on. As for his relationship with Theseus, he was more in touch with the budget and oversight of the project,so the pressure was on him to get results or shut it down. He never really considered Theseus as Sapient, and to be fair, he was only a single instance at that point so that perspective is semi-valid. Also, he likely mostly interacted with Theseus in a more diagnostic capacity,unlike Elizabeth. Might as well try to get to know someone from their medical charts.Remember,people wanted to kill Lyle and Lee and they eventually became some of our greatest assets.
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>>1905482
Agreed. "Super" Steiner, if he gains Elizabeth's powers, could be extremely useful. If we're lucky we can manage to develop a healthy relationship with him. Hopefully Theseus won't be too pissed off.
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>>1905482
Honestly, I just thought it would be the most delicious of fates to have Seiner be the one to find out that the answer to the most pressing scientific questions of his time was "ancient aliens." He really is the only other scientist we've got a brain scan of: everybody else might have been an engineer or something, but not a scientist. I get that Seiner is a tragic character and has arrived at his position through a combination of bad luck, bad decisions, and sacrificing everything he's ever had including his life. Well, he got his answer: his grandfather was instructed by the White Queen's relay to build the psionic cannon, sacrificed himself to save the relay, and then we found the relay.

When we looked through his memory, everything he's done had led up to showing psionic communication exists, and he kept telling himself "it will be worth it." I don't think we needed to alter his psyche very much to get him to want to touch the thing in the room.

He also has the distinction of being the very first individual we've revived from a state of death, which is even funnier considering that it's very similar to what Theseus does when he creates a new copy. And now I'm wondering if Theseus will continue to be the most human character and exhibit any kind of forgiveness to Seiner.
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>>1906033
That is true we can hust tell Theseus this is a new instance of Steiner.
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>>1906033
Would a human forgive someone whom they had a relationship with like Theseus and Seiner? Thesesus will feel a bit betrayed(we did say we had killed him and he did tell us that if we got him to kill him),but losing someone that was important in your life is never easy,even if you want it. I think that if we prod and poke under his anger and other tremulous emotions,we will find some desire to connect with,or at least have closure with,the closest thing he has to a (absentee) father.
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>>1906251
Or, we just come clean with Theseus and tell him we needed A: A blind person to poke things with and B: Seiner was on file and had attractive qualifications.

And then we ask if he wants to talk/maim/kill the resurrected Seiner for catharsis or closure.
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>>1906272
Theseus just cares about information, to the point that his instances don't even mind being erased as long as their info makes it back to the greater Unity. I don't think he tends to hold grudges or he wouldn't be open to peace with the Union.
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>>1906289
Seiner is something of a special case for Theseus. Just like he cares about Elizabeth in a positive manner.
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>>1906296
Hm. Might have a point. We'd have to ask.
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>>1903351
>>1903630
I agree entirely. I general any time you do something for the first time, I try to do it manually, at least in part to set a precedent for what your agents and thinkers will attempt to do afterwards. With the espionage system up, your hidden hives can be fully automated, along with a number of other things that you are currently setting a general precedent for.

As for the general pace, I fully intend on things picking up, so I'll try to keep this day to maybe only a two-parter (counting this midweek session as a part of this one, I expect we may need one more thread to finish up some of the pressing things, such as the events unfolding on Path.) with Path, the new Seiner's results, and maybe a few surprises.

At any rate, I'll resume this thread this Thursday at 7 pm Eastern.
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>>1906296
We just need to tell him that we didn't know what it would do to the blind person and since we already had Seiner's memories on file we just downloaded him into a empty clone.

Essentialy this one isn't Steiner that is just a cline with Steiner's memories. But we better stop here or we might end up discussing stuff what makes a person itself if it's his memories or other stuff.
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>At any rate, I'll resume this thread this Thursday at 7 pm Eastern.


Best news ever!!
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>>1906314
YYYYEEEEEs
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>>1903630
Same anon you're replying to, but I think I might respectfully disagree with you there. I vastly preferred the earlier pacing, where we would deal with multiple issues the hive is facing in a single thread. It kept things far more engaging overall and if the results are anything to go by, helped force the players to think in the long term, instead of just focusing on what they were currently dealing with.

Now there is very little incentive for players to plan for something unrelated to what we're currently doing. Hell, if I open up a new thread and see we're dealing with a matter I find very tedious (like dealing with internal Union politics) half the time I'll just leave after the first two posts, because I know we're not going to do anything else in that thread. And even if someone does come up with a pretty decent plan, either the discussion fizzles out or we never get a chance to put it into action since we can only do write ins at the end of a whole number thread now.

It's like anon pointed out here>>1904324 we have so far completely failed to take advantage of our new espionage system. And that's mostly because we have had so few chances to use it, and it takes so long for any espionage system to bear fruit. In every single thread since the system was introduced we have spent the entire thread dealing with a specific individual matter and concludes shifting focus beyond it. Instead of switching between multiple events and thus seeing the bigger picture we remain focused on a single event and thus lack the opportunity to engage in the wider setting, which obviously disincentives considering the wider setting. Who's going to worry about sending spies to Union worlds or fighting the OQ if we only deal with such things once every couple of months?

TL;DR The underlying cause for the dip in the playerbase's ability to think past 5 seconds isn't that we have too much stuff to think about, it's because we haven't had enough. If you want anons to think about the bigger picture and the possible implications of what they're doing, they've got to see the bigger picture and be able to choose which parts they want to look at.
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>>1906314
yiss
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>>1906314
Awesome!
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Soon
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>>1906434
>TL;DR The underlying cause for the dip in the playerbase's ability to think past 5 seconds isn't that we have too much stuff to think about, it's because we haven't had enough. If you want anons to think about the bigger picture and the possible implications of what they're doing, they've got to see the bigger picture and be able to choose which parts they want to look at.
I think (while part of it) is not the whole reason why players are bored. I personally think it has to do more with the fact that politics can be very slow and dull especially when dealing with republics or democracies. We advanced the plot rapidly by revealing ourselves to the Union the impatient players claim that they are being stupid because the plot is moving slowly, however our goals have been advancing slowly this is what they likely complaining about that also actually makes sense.
That coupled with the fact this quest hasn't been running enough and people are more interested in immediate gratification undiplined casuals to more precise they likely lack investment in this quest as newer players tend to.
Though to be honest the crystal from what we know about it is unlikely to be useful until the Psionic cannon is built and the Ceph are likely to attempt to immolate one of our planets.
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Seiner glances to the others with an uneasy look of concern, and inches himself closer to the crystal. It is easily twice his height, reaching up to the ceiling and deep through the floor as it shifts in its housing, moving slightly, yet not in an entirely incorporeal way, as if it were semi-liquid, shifting and reforming its solid edges slowly and steadily. A strange, radiant warmth seems to emanate from it, a revealing warmth, as if he were freezing for his entire life but never knew it, his body frozen numb with bitter cold since birth. His fingers ache with the strange energy, his nerves burning with a feeling entirely alien to his senses.

It seems as though the light increases, although you measure no increase in illumination. Seiner's hand reaches where the crystal should be, but it seems to continue, his eyes unable to reconcile its perceived distance, and the room seems to tip, sending him falling forward into vibrant structure, its inner form folding and unfolding with infinite complexity.

I recognize your strands.

A presence lurks just beyond your view, your image of Seiner's mind obscured, as if watching from a great distance through thick glass. It is not quite a mind, but a near approximation, like a recording of nearly infinite complexity. A shadow of some long forgotten thought congealed together into something resembling but not reaching conscious thought. Its strange mind is like an echo, each thought feeling old and warn, as if left untouched for countless centuries. Seiner seems small beneath its looming presence. He looks up, and sees something at once terrifying and magnificent as his own mind begins to fray along the edges. You struggle to keep watch over the stream of thoughts as Seiner's consciousness seems to flicker from one space to another.

“It was you.” Seiner says. He focuses on the echo as the drifting thoughts flow around him, some small imprint falling into your own mind like ink bleeding through paper. You see an open grassland, strange but familiar beasts of earth stalk the land as a small band of wretched looking humans make screeching sounds at the sky. A fleet of hive vessels drift down from above as a cold wind howls through the scattered trees, the starships blocking the sun as they draw near.

Yes. You were one of many attempts, but time grew short, yet to move to quickly would only draw attention.

“I have so many questions.” Seiner says softly. He is standing on the surface of Luna, unaided by his suit but still able to breath. The excavation site can be seen nearby, empty, and the laboratory set along the horizon. The sun blazes in the sky of the lunar night, blinding with an unnatural light as it slowly takes on a shape.

Your kind served as a tool, as you must once more. You must use what I give you to serve my daughter. Bring to her this archive, and offer her your mind.
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Meet your gods human!
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>>1911453
IT RETURNS!

Also, awesome that we now have more information from mother dearest including images of the "real" first contact between the Hive and humans. Hopefully she can make Steiner want to work for us rather than him only working for us through threat of force.
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>>1911453
>you will never digitize your mind into a crystal

Also, I have several questions, and they are all "why is the door still open if psionics are not supposed to be able to listen in to any of this stuff without drawing much attention."
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>>1911489
Hey we are finnaly giving him all the answers he wanted. He better start working for us.
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>>1911453
Seiner falls back, his body convulsing as he drops to the floor. His arm smokes, his hand charred and blackened as your other clones rush to him. You try to subdue his mind, but it is not there, It is elsewhere entirely. He looks down to see himself, watching as his own eyes roll back in his head and his mouth foams with spittle. The chamber of the vault shrinks into an endless void. He blinks, and he now stands over the surface of Zero-One. Machines churn in the vast factories as a humanoid figure twitches on a surgical table, metallic armatures weaving synthetic tissues like cloth. He turns his head, and there is a hallway of an office, its walls decorated with carved stonework of hive and skyl design. Lee stands at the end with a concerned look as he watches a news bulletin scroll along a holoprojector.

“Ryan?” Seiner asks. “You're alive?” Lee snaps his head to face down the hall with a startled jump, his mind racing to account for the drones of your embassy.

“Did you hear something?” He asks, Seiner tries to reach out, but the walls flow like oil, recombining into a new scene. Killinger sits at a wooden desk, his office a drab temporary bunker hidden somewhere many kilometers beneath Gemini. You feel a sudden anger well up within Seiner.

“You! You piece of shit, You did this, the mercs, the dead trooper, the bombardment! You- you killed me!” He shouts as he tries to reach forward as if to swing a punch, but there is no contact. He passes through the desk with all the density of a hologram, his hand harmlessly moving through Killinger's head.

Killinger is standing in an instant, a pistol in his hand, drawn so quickly you hardly managed to see it. He aims it at the door with an instinctive reflex, his face pale with a cold sweat. Seiner looks at his hands with confusion as his mind struggles in a dream-like fugue state to fully understand the situation.
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>>1911491
I guess Mom made a back door for herself. Not enough for anybody to worm themselves in without killing the human,but enough to give a (relative for full psionic power) vague message.
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>>1911498
>He blinks, and he now stands over the surface of Zero-One. Machines churn in the vast factories as a humanoid figure twitches on a surgical table, metallic armatures weaving synthetic tissues like cloth.
Oh sweet Theseus. Mimicry is the highest form of flattery
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>>1911498
Looks like Killinger has a good idea of how precarious things are. Thats good. It means that he will be willing to play ball if we give him an out/more stability.
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>>1911498
>You feel a sudden anger well up within Seiner.
I think we can put our differences aside to work together.
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>>1911504
>backwoods for herself
And us by extension.
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>>1911498
Also note this thing is without a doubt a hive constructed void shard.
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>>1911498
>“You! You piece of shit, You did this, the mercs, the dead trooper, the bombardment! You- you killed me!”

Well... as long as he blames Killinger for this and not us (the the hive that chopped his head off) or Theseus (who is the reason we killed rather than captured Steiner in the first place), I'm okay with this.

Also, this level of psionic power is incredible and is similar to what we saw when we first examined a Shard ourselves in our youth. I wonder what this suggests Steiners powers will evolve into...


>>1911504
It indeed looks like Mom did put a backdoor into the human mental conditioning/blindness such that they can be awakened by a hive or a close relative.

>>1911540
There is some room for doubt considering how it appeared inactive when we first approached... but that's certainly a strong theory.
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>>1911540
I said it a long time ago and I'll say it again: my theory is that the "Void Gods" are the Theseus of Hive life, except instead of quantum computing, it was psionic computing.

And yeah, from what Elizabeth knows, these white shards existed before they were inverted to become void shards.
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>>1911554
I think its less us awakening it and maybe more like an outlet and a plug:Certain things can tap into "whats left" of the human psionic system, but what it can do is limited. Actually a better analogy might be that the crystal is software, only giving a program that the system can only just handle.
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>>1911557
An interesting detail that often goes overlooked is that psionic never properly translates over to mechical computers.
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>>1911575
And yet, Skyl computing is based on crystals.
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He looks back up, startled by a sudden pulling force across his body. A massive black sphere hangs in the sky before him, a black hole, yet he is impossibly close to it. It tugs at him, something beyond the event horizon beckoning him closer with its looming enormity. A speck passes by, and he at once realizes it is a starship. It drifts, tumbling slowly in a decaying orbit, and past it, a small world skims the edge of the singularity in an impossibly delicate orbit. The world grows in his view, its horizon stretching across his mind as he closes in on the strange, unnatural looking stone of the surface. Cracks can be seen running in jagged lines along a surface that seems almost sandblasted smooth. Stones rumble and crack, and a new fissure opens as a strange liquid seeps out, reflective like mercury. The surface seems to vibrate, thin, hairlike tendrils reaching up from the growing pool as faint whispers echo from bellow.

Seiner gasps for breath, thrashing in the grip of your other clones as he heaves up the contents of his stomach. He gasps for air, feeling as if he were drowning a moment ago. His eyes are bloodshot and ache terribly with a burning sensation beneath them, like white hot needles digging into his eyes from within his skull. The pain carries something, a stinging, white hot sensation that strains to carry the alien sensation. It holds an understanding. A comprehension more complete than anything he has felt before, but still delicate and weak, like the wings of a butterfly fresh from its cocoon. He looks to the central crystal through tearing, stinging eyes. It has become a small shard like a cloudy white diamond the length of a human hand. Its glow is fierce like a star, but quickly abates to a soft glow, and then nothing, the cloudy coloring within growing still and solid, but as it slowly rotates in its place reflections flicker on its surfaces from shapes and figures not present around it. Seiner reaches out, and despite its distance of several meters, plucks the crystal from its pedestal.

“I need to bring this to the Queen.” he says.

“What is it?” Your clones ask. Seiner looks at it, searching for the words.

“A computer, of a sort, but it uses spacetime for circuits.” He says. “I feel like I know how it works, but I don't know how to describe it. It's... a physical thought. I'm not sure what that means, but that's what it is, and it was built for the Queen.”
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>>1911589
So that's why never translates. Mechical computer were completely incompatible.
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>>1911589
Hang on. This might be dangerous for us to use even if our mother intended for us to have it. She probably hoped that when she gave this to us the Void wouldn't already be watching her daughter...

Still, we should bring this to Leeland and stick it in an isolation/silence chamber until Steiner can share more information with us (assuming that this information/understanding wouldn't corrupt us further).
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"Are you alright?" Your clone asks. Seiner wipes a trail of blood from his nose and nods.

"Yes. I'm better than alright." He says, the aching behind his eyes still strong. "I understand it all now. How it all fits into place. I don't entirely know how I know what I know, but it doesn't matter." He picks himself up with a quick lift from your clone as they share concerned glances.

"You didn't look alright to me just then." Your other clone says. "You still don't." Seiner holds the small crystal in both hands, looking into it as if searching for something, his eyes fixed on a horizon far more distant than the crystal's apparent surface.

"I've been searching my entire life for what my grandfather found. Ever since that day, I felt a glimpse of something but I could never describe what it was. I was told it was a part of a seizure, but it was real. I felt it, like a weight I've been holding ever since." He looks back to the clones with a shaking smile. "I found it. I had to die to do it, but I finally found it." He grips the crystal tightly, its dimensions seemingly altering to accommodate his hand. "And I know what to do with it."

Your drones fall back, finding what little heat left in the hive dissipating with the removal of the crystal. Your clones return to the pod, and as your corvette examines the area one last time, your pod returns.

>Bring the crystal to Leeland and examine it
>Place the crystal in a silence chamber
>Speak with Seiner (write in)
>Other (write in)
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>>1911660
Well, that's an encouraging picture.
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>>1911662
Sorry. Ever since his first introduction my mind has always swapped randomly between picturing him as James Cromwell and Sam Neil. Now that he has a new face,
both appearances can be canon.
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>>1911667
Where we're going, you don't need minds to shitpost.

>Bring the crystal to Leeland and examine it

Fuck it, the sooner we can share this with Theseus and get him building batteries of psionic cannons, the better.
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Okay so I just finished re-reading the archives. What thread did we get the records for that ship from the union that discovered the world orbiting the black hole? I cant find it anywhere
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>>1911660
>Speak with Seiner (write in)
"Knowledge of this information carries danger. If this information were to cause the Hive to fall under attack, we must be ready to defend. What danger do you foresee?"
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>>1911660
>Speak with Seiner
"No hard feelings. You understand I had pressure to kill you at the time correct?"
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>>1911660
>Place the crystal in a silence chamber
We need to (somehow) block the Void from watching us, when we look at this. Gazing into it ourselves could be too risky until we're better equipped.

>Speak with Seiner (write in)
We are glad you feel the Hive has given you purpose. Mother loves you as she loves all her children and you will have a home here. Would you like to meet Dr. Vaughn? I'm sure you and her have much to discuss.
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>>1911678
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1674718/#p1688766
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>>1911684
>We need to (somehow) block the Void from watching us, when we look at this. Gazing into it ourselves could be too risky until we're better equipped.
I'm leaning towards this myself, at least until Seiner has weighed in on the matter.

Then again, White Queen had enough time to build the cannon into a hive ship before the Void attacked...
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>>1911660
>Bring the crystal to Leeland and examine it
>Place the crystal in a silence chamber
It's a Voidshard bootleg. shouldn't be -too- dangerous
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>>1911813
Maybe take a peek first before looking too deep into it?
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>>1911782
I have a theory on how we could break the Void's "sight" of us. It requires making ourselves vulnerable, though...

We could break the Queen's relay like the Scarred Queen did to survive the OQ's betrayal. We could then leave the Hive under the control of our daughter and Elizabeth for a day until we had healed and we could possibly even improve the Queen's relay with White Queen/White crystal tech to make her more Void resistant during the process. Obviously we would need to have a greater understanding of this tech/psionics for such a risk to be worth it - so this is at best a very long term proposition.
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>>1911660
Let's examine it or have Elizabeth do so. I don't think Mom would give us mind cancer with her present
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>>1911840
Mom didn't know that the Void would be watching us already...

We should at least talk with Steiner about the crystal first before we decide to gaze into the Void once more.
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I mean like at that point, just keep the anti-psionic field active at all times would achieve the same goal but it would also make it nearly impossible to do anything. Also I don't think Elizabeth would be able to control the entire hive. Maybe a few drones here and there, but not the whole thing. It's just too big.
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>>1911855
The scarred Queen could control it, though. Elizabeth would just be an additional failsafe.

If we keep the anti-psi field active at all times as you said it severely limits us. If we break our relay and create a new untainted one or one that is Void resistant when we recover we will be in a much stronger state and wouldn't need to rely on the psi blocker to stay safe.

All this is purely hypothetical, of course. We don't have nearly enough knowledge as is to employ a gambit that involves destroying the Queen's own relay.
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>>1911886
Let's file that one under the "plans to try if we get desperate enough."
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>>1911855
Exactly. Elizabeth is an auxiliary in the hive management,not a redundancy. She might have hive genes,but she is still more human than Hive when you compare a human in its entirety and a Hive Queen in its entirety.
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>>1911894
Agreed. As easily and thoroughly as Elizabeth is my favorite character, her having to control the entire Hive would end up being like Malcador having to sit on the Golden Throne.

For those of you who don't know Warhammer 40K, the dude was the second most powerful psychic in the galaxy, and he lasted all of a couple of hours before he literally crumble to dust.
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Why not ask Theseus and Heretic for everything they know about computer tech and say it's related to what we found?
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The pod drifts over Leeland, shifting into the atmosphere as your drones prepare do deal with the potentially dangerous cargo. Seiner's mind flashes with strange and distant horizons. Your own mind focuses in to contact his, and you find it surprisingly difficult, his mind feels scattered, like leaves scattered in a strong wind, you struggle to reach him fully. Whatever has happened to him, it has strengthened the natural defenses to psionics humans already hold, and while that resistance can be countered by your own mental abilities, this new measure has you struggling.

"Knowledge can bring danger. We must know what you carry cannot harm the hive." You ask, your thoughts drifting to his as if being shouted in the distance. His reply is sudden and surprising, his mind emanating from within your throne room as if he were standing before you in person. He seems just as surprised, looking over the grandeur of the chamber with wonder.

"It's your mother's legacy. No, more than that, it's a relic from her mother." He says, not entirely certain to the implications of the statement. "She used the foundation of the technology to build something designed for humans. A pure human, not an uplifted one."

"Uplifted?"

"That's what they called it when you give a lesser species your powers." Seiner replies. "We are so small. Our singular minds can't comprehend it, so the old Queens could hardly consider us sentient. I don't know the details, but I saw images, memories, someone called the Gardener tried to create a device to uplift a lesser species. The White Queen went the other direction. It's like the inscription on the doorway said, if you bring a light in the dark, you can be seen just as well as see, but if you adapt yourself to see in the darkness, nobody else can see you, but you can see everyone else holding their lights just fine." His mind flickers between your worlds, his view rapidly searching through the Ark's crash site on Raligha, and the hive ruins not far from it. "I think that's what it was designed to do; take a natural human, and give them the ability to see in the dark, to use the analogy." He struggles to hold himself in place, his mind flickering through Ralighan villages alien landscapes far removed from your space. "I can't-" He says with a hint of pain. "I can't focus. I feel stretched thin. I can't think right now. I just know that, somehow, I can...see without being seen, but I can't hold it all in my head. It doesn't all make sense."

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>>1911937
That wouldn't help us at all, and we already have a pretty good understanding of computer tech.
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>>1911948
We actually are missing a deeper understanding of quantum computer specifically AI research and heretic's crystal computers.
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>>1911947
>a relic from her mother
Grandma's crystal?

>someone called the Gardener tried to create a device to uplift a lesser species
Found that one, too. It was cool.

>I can...see without being seen, but I can't hold it all in my head
Damn, he ended up with the cool powers, but sounds like his mind is simply too small to do too much with it.
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>>1911947
Sounds like a good thing we didn't give this to Elizabeth. That tech definitely would not have mixed well.

If this tech enables Steiner to see in the dark so to speak he is now invaluable. We should ask him to observe the OQ. He might even be able to tell us what planet she's on so we can attempt to blink in and immolator it. Of course, we should also try to stabilize him as much as possible both for his sake and for our own.
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>>1911947
>"It's your mother's legacy. No, more than that, it's a relic from her mother."
Grandma!?

Cool,so if we study the crystal,we can give humans limited psionic power. They wont have much growth potential,but they will likely learn how to use what little they have with great skill.
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>>1911981
>Cool,so if we study the crystal,we can give humans limited psionic power.
I think it's the opposite, the Gardener's devise gives humans our powers but this crystal seems to give them something like a cross between the dragon guy's psionic hiding and Void sight.
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>>1911981
The problem is we're being watched, don't have a safe place to do it, and haven't built up our empire enough to protect us while we do it. We need support now.
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>>1911991
Sounds about right to me. Steiner's biggest problem is his primative brain can't handle the info. We need to try and fix that somehow
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>>1911991
>psionic hiding
He was just a receiver anon.
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>>1912003
I don't think he's just a receiver Anon. If he was he wouldn't be able to still use his Void sight power to appear in our throne room. And he has to maintain some form or invisibility (or ignorance?) or else he would have probably gained the Void's attention while he was flashing between dimensions just now. He can see in the dark and doesn't emit any "light"
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>>1911947
"And so you wish to find purpose here? Even after your first death?" You ask bluntly.

"I always had a purpose, I just didn't know what it was." He says, his mind finding its way to your mother's world, the site of her last stand. His thoughts drift through the wreckage in orbit, echoing through the debris. "Now I know the truth I was always looking for. I'm a human. We were designed." He is standing on the surface of Chandra's barren world, an irradiated rock pocketed with craters. He looks around at the rocks and craters, until he spots the remains of a Union starship along the horizon, shattered into junks and spread across the surface. He looks under his feet, and the stone seems to peel away to reveal the buried complexes and pre-fab laboratories crushed beneath it all. He seals his eyes shut with a wave of mental anguish, but the image is still there, his physical eyelids doing nothing to seal out the scene.

"What right to self determination can I claim to have after this?" He whispers. He holds his head, pressing tightly on either side as if he was afraid his skull was about to split open from the agonizing pressure the new sensations. "God! I was so small, I didn't know, I never even tried to know!"

The images suddenly halt, his vision going dark. A stark horror fills his mind before he remembers how to use his natural eyes, and opens them again. He realizes he is in his body once more, or at least, the one you built for him, and is on the soft fleshy cartilage-like tiling of the floor of a hive chamber. Beneath the soft lighting and the bone walls, the texture of a silence chamber's lining can be seen between layers of flesh. A thinker is in the ceiling, lodged like a decorative fixture surrounded by the room's sensory cluster and soft biological lighting. He looks up at it as it purrs with thought as it channels your mind into and out of the room, but seals his own in place. He tries to catch his breath and suddenly realizes his is drenched with sweat, his limbs cold and shaking, as if he had been sprinting.

"Thank you." He says. He grips at the air, and realizes the crystal is gone from his hands. Several fingers bleed from where the clones had to pry them away with force.

>Speak with Seiner (write in)
>Speak with Elizabeth (write in)
>Speak with other (write in)
>Examine the crystal
>Store the crystal away
>Other (write in)
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>>1912020
>Dragon guy
I don't think we're thinking of the same individual. Could you better define who we talking about?
Also light refers to tachyons not recieving tachyons.
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I just realized, if Steiner had Void sight he is a perfect resting ground for us to figure out how to hide something from the Void. If we can hide something in a way where he can't find it we'll know that defense will work against the Void. If he can gaze through a shielding attempt, on the other hand, we'll know it is not effective.
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>>1912025
Seiner my dude,you still have self determination. Does a Queen control everything her daughters do? You are not a tool,you are our child. Now back straight ,eyes forward and no more sad talk mister.
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