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War, war never changes.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Fallout%2C+Civ%2C+Courier%2C+New+Vegas%2C+Enclave%2C+America

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>>1733940

You are the Courier. Leader of your a fledgling new America reborn, as empires old and new wage war around you, and you continue to press your nation into higher heights of power to match them. BigMT continues to expand and churn ever more powerful technologies at your disposal, but comes with an insatiable hunger for resources and power which you are ever on the prowl for. To that end, you have made deals, and begun an invasion of the great Divide where a mountain of steel lays in wait like a prize for you. Unlocking this region may very well be the next step in the growth of your nation into a superpower.
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>>1733940

Your request for a modified LAER based Securitron model is complete.

Coming in two forms, the standard Securitron model with built in human interface and civilian control features and face screen, and your hardier but less intelligent Soldier-Securitron.

Both arms are replaced with newly developed Gatling LAER's, based partly off of Elijah's Advanced LAER. Each shot by a Laer is nearly 3 times as powerful as the standard Laser Rifle Shot, and almost 6 times as powerful as the standard Gatling Laser individual shot. Twin armed, they are a formidable weapon, causing

Interestingly, Cain likes the weapon and notes its "similarity to electrical weapon he discovered in the Secret Vault before it blew the fuck up". Your scientists and files on BigMT confirm the LAER and Cain's weapon share similar parts, though the LAER seems more advanced.

The upshots of this design are that it has increased the energy weapons lethality of the Securitron Model considerably, showing a "200% increase in vaporization" according to Dr. 0. The weapon being an electrical variant make it particularly effective against robots and enemy power armor. The new multi-purpose wheel/legs have also increased

Drawbacks are that the weapon itself is more fragile and prone to breakdown and overheat, so the Securitrons Auto-Repair mechanisms work very hard increasing energy cost as well as being more vulnerable to counter fire. In addition, the increased energy consumption necessitates a larger alien battery which becomes a vulnerable point as well as being glowing and slightly more visible.

To counter this, the extra armored Hazard Variety increases the armor protection of all systems yet however, also increases its energy consumption, decreases speed, and also increases cost but gives it ample armor and cover.
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>>1744066
>Twin armed, they are a formidable weapon, causing

Causing what?


>The new multi-purpose wheel/legs have also increased

Increased what?
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>>1744087
Ugh I hate typos.

That was supposed to lead into the mention that they increase the rates of vaporization, are generally more powerful, and cause electrical damage.

>The new multi-purpose wheel/legs have also increased
*Increased the flexibility of the Securitron Model over hard terrain while retaining their landspeed over flat terrain.
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>>1744103
bueno
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>>1744103
Cool
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>>1741448
You return home to organize reinforcements, and to drum up support for the troops.

In that regard you feel its time for a bit of some propaganda of your own, and working to the best of your own abilities, start on it.

You begin the first drafts of your own, somewhat autobiographical book, though you've yet to come up with a title you start jotting down some personal ideas.

The Improvement of the Human Race is a major theme. The usage of augments, the acceptance of mutation as part of natures scheme of evolution, and the efforts of science to ever increase the abilities of scope of humanity.

You realize that this may be offputting to any factions or people who are human "purists" particularly the original Enclave, and possibly some elements of the BoS. But it does speak truths about your own ideology.

The Commitment to welfare is also on your agenda, how the state should provide for the human living condition especially in old age.

Last but not least, the effort that New America will make to avoid the mistakes of the old and rise New from the ashes of the Old World.

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As you write, you have a copy of Yaunkers red book on your desk, mainly to compare.

It strikes you that some of this mans ideology isn't at all very different from your own, and he himself speaks of the improvement of humanity (through the superior Californian race and augmentation), the NCR's commitment to wellfare, and avoiding the mistakes of the Old World as well. It isn't exact copy, as there are marked differences, such as your beliefs on debrainification and the FEV.

But suppose you will need to make more efforts and put in more ideas to your book.

Further actions on the book may prove very valuable for future propaganda purposes! Once its ready to be sold by making it more fleshed out, it will be truly worthy of speaking on your behalf to the masses. You can make them as part of a hero action as you write whereever you are.
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>>1744282
Nice. Heres hoping our 100 speech will help even if we roll shit.
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>>1744298
Didn't we roll 89 on this turn?
I saw it from the last thread
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>>1744302
True, but the book isnt finished.
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>>1744309
Use another hero action to get it done
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>>1744311
Hence >>1744298
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>>1744311
It is unlikely you will get this done in two turns, but the good news is you can add to it at any time via the hero action by just tacking i on. Unless you're doing something very intensive that won't allow for reading. What it needs are some more fleshed out concepts.

>>1741448
You make other direct efforts to improve patriotism or at least nationalism within your nation. More flagpoles, and having soldiers or officers regularly tend to them when it comes time to bring them down or up.

Propaganda posters are printed out attacking the Legion and the NCR. Legion posters are easy enough, in regards to the NCR you accuse them of unfair economic policies, and the use of human capital in war where you protect your citizens and soldiers through a "metal shield of robotics". Apart from that you do your best to generally antagonize them.

You're no mind reader, and neither is James bond, but you suspect they are having an effect. Those who already hated the NCR have something to talk about now too.

You consider you may want to add more poster concepts over time as well.
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>>1744331
Following in the footsteps of Enclave Radio, you think make a radio channel specifically for national purposes. Unity's band is more than happy to play new versions of the old songs, based on some musical pieces they were able to find for a marching band. These are recorded and added to the playlist.

It is decided to give Mrs. New Washington her own radio show as well.

On the topic of the radio show and the new Anthem, Dean Domino voices some hesitations.

>Dean Domino
"First off, I'm a Jazz an swing musician savvy?"

Dean Domino suggests, rather than /just/ American patriotic marches playing over and over again, why not throw in some swing music instead?

He takes a piece of Americn march music and adds his own twist, for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK-lBi5r6Jk

CHOOSE:
>The old classics are fine, it will appeal to the traditionalists.
>That's a good idea, we are moving forward and at the same time Swing was the King of old world American music

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Meanwhile he also speaks about your ideas on a new Anthem.

>Dean Domino
"I'm no Red Blooded Flag Waver, but as a musician even I recognize there's something to be said about America in its national anthem. The Anthem carries a bit of a message to it, not in its words but also the familiarity of its tune. I'm not sure whether you want the same tune to new lyrics or something new entirely. What do you suggest?"

CHOOSE:
>People like Moreno would want the old Anthem, and it would make our ties to the Old World stronger. Perhaps a newer rendition is in order instead, rather than some old holotape. That would please the traditionalists.
>We can keep the anthem tune and even make a new recording. But the original lyrics are a bit out of date, and we need something that ties people to the new. [Would you like to add suggestions to new lyrics anons?]
>A Brand New Anthem is warranted. We are a new America after all. Descendant in spirit, but new in upbringing. Something more relevant to our cause is needed. [Would like some suggestions if possible]
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>>1744282
>>1744331
I'd like to add something to the book.
The improvement of humans should also be cultural/social rather than just scientifically, through promoting a genuine desire to improve among the people, our goal should be not just being physically and mentally strong but also having a very wide arrangement of useful skills like cooking, crafting, reading, shooting, swordsmanship, martial arts, wilderness survival and any other stuff. Our goal is to make every person a king not by what they own but how they behave, what they are as a person.

And it is by improving the people that we improve the Nation, because it is the duty of Citizens to contribute to their community and the state in the fashion they believe is best, whether that be teaching others, making tools, researching and inventing or joining the military, and when the people are strong and help each other be better people do they make the nation strong, for the nations strength comes from the people.
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>>1744331
>You consider you may want to add more poster concepts over time as well.
Point out the NCR's dishonorable habit of claiming inventions were invented by them, it is greatly disrespectful to the true inventors and the scientific community as a whole.
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>>1744437
OP I got to think for a while before making the choices, got to get some ideas going.
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>>1744467
>Point out the NCR's dishonorable habit of claiming inventions were invented by them
Which ones? Hexcrete and Salient Green

Sure you can add that.
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>>1744482
>Which ones? Hexcrete and Salient Green
I thought they had some other ones, inventions not from us but from the old world they claim had been invented recently by them, do they not?
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>>1744486
They say they have rediscovered old world principles like internal combustion and other technologies. Obviously this stuff existed before the war.

The new technologies they accredit themselves to are stuff like Hypo and their theoretical "Ion Engine"
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>>1744486
Salient Green, Hexcrete, the robots that look like a low tech versions of Securitrons
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>>1744493
I think the low tech securitrons are kinda iffy. We don't have any sense of the internals, and a lot of the subsystems are not exactly proprietary. Take the missle replicator out of a sentry bot, laser out of a mr gutsy, etc. then it's just putting it in the familiar packaging.
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>>1744493
Those are actually just old world Heavy Sentry-Bots reprogrammed.
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>>1744490
Oh, then nevermind what i said about science, i though they falsy claimed some tech as their own and i don't want us to appear as a whiner because of the Salient green and hexcrete.
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>>1744462
i do support this. Though obviously some skills, like swordsmanship, are less useful than others.
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>>1744522
>Though obviously some skills, like swordsmanship, are less useful than others.
I do believe they have some use in certain situations, knowing how to swing something is useful whether that be a knife or a metal rod, plus i'm a sucker for medieval combat and i don't want our people to lose to the Legion in something so i believe promoting a martial arts and swordamnship interest would be good.
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>>1744462
I also support this.

>>1744437
I do like the old classics, but also want something new.
A idea is we can have set hours to play the classics and the new swing music that will appeal to both. And we could just have two different stations of new music and Classics.

>>1744437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFRIJpU1k3A
I like the tune of America, and the lyrics but I don't really have suggestions to new lyrics. Maybe with the Courier INT 10 and other stats he can come up with something.
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The Omni-Constructor leads your new Pan-Constructors, and with the help of Jacob Miles and his crew of robots, swiftly being construction of General Kregers forward outpost. And with steel and especially Hexcrete aplenty, it is being constructed in record time.

You have a new outpost! It can be further upgraded.

Meanwhile, the Chinese say they will accept the Generals request as long as their own conditions are met. They would like to maintain their own independant chinese forces, which will be deployed alongside yours.

They also request a considerable amount of Fuel(Food) to fullfil the Generals request. It will set our food stocks back a bit, but they say it will be most effective this way.

CHOOSE:
>What do
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>>1744544
Agree to the terms. We're going to need all the help we can get to get the Divide from the Marked Men.
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>>1744544
Can you say what the request from Kreger is? or is it supposed to be a surprise?
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>>1744562
He asked the Chinese to deploy their "Urban clearing and anti-biological forces" that was part of their dogma he noted when reading their tactical codex.
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>>1744544
>agree
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>>1744437
>We can keep the anthem tune and even make a new recording. But the original lyrics are a bit out of date, and we need something that ties people to the new. [Would you like to add suggestions to new lyrics anons?]

Probably should change the "star spangled banner" part as our banner is not spangled with stars.
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>>1744544
Do it
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>>1744544
agree.
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>>1744583
>Probably should change the "star spangled banner" part as our banner is not spangled with stars.
This is an excellent point
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>>1744602
I agree with that.
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>- Convince our companions / scientists to receive augments

Some companions of yours, like Mary-Jo Casey or ghouls like Raul and Cain are out when it comes to the implants, as they were designed for humans. Marcus points out that the Master had to tinker with specialized implants for mutants, and that they were also working on a Ghoul variety, so it may be possible with further research. E-DE, Rusty, and Mary Jo Casey may need more electronic based implants being cybernetic in nature. Milton+Hans being entirely different species altogether.

People like AXE MAN, Sonia, Hazel, and Vanessa are all on board when it comes to implants and graciously accept. Couripor accepts, though possibly out of subservience. Riddick also accepts the offer, except for certain ones like his eyes.

Delilah is pregnant at this time, not a good candidate for augments until after her child by her husband is born.

That just leaves the rest. Mainly people who are adjusting to civilian life like Joana, Wendy Gilbert, and Desmond Harper.

And others who are just plain leery of the idea. Like Cass, Arcade, Veronica and a number of your scientists.

You are pretty sure you can convince them, but would you anons like to put in your own words of wisdom? Why should humanity pursue augmentation?
>What say?
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>>1744331
Here you go QM, fresh from the presses
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>>1744651
Yo scientists you want to be smarter, spend more time researching but get tired too easy. Or you just plain weak and want to get that pussy, get augmentations.
You be smarter, faster, stronger, and can research more hours of the day with the augs even live longer if you want. Not to say the amount of pussy you get from the ladies your know what to say and not be limited to "Y-you too".

Get Augs today and be a better, tho you also have to improve yourself to maximization the augs you have
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>>1744331
And here is a nice anti-NCR one I cooked up.
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>>1744674
Wonderful! Definitely going to give you a boost or that.
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>>1744651
Humanity should always strive for improvement. To look inwards, see our flaws and accept them as immutable, unchangeable, is to resign one's self to failure.

We must always be striving towards the unachievable perfection and take our steps along the infinite path of progress. We must always be better than what we were.
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>>1744706
Look at this OC
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>>1744721
But we don't have a church.

Which kinda takes the wind out of the "battle Hymn of the republic", but what can you do?
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>>1744730
It's a small homage to the nailed god, subliminal imagery. A tiny cross at the top is the only church like thing and seeing as our people probably don't have a concept of "church" in game will probably just see this as a hexcrete government building.
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>>1744730
You forget we have that offer from the New Canaanites to learn about their religion, we also have that preacher in the alien cryopods we can learn from.
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>>1744730
I say that it can be a Church if we put the cross, most people will see it as a government building.
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>>1744462
Supporting this addition, sounds good.

Possible book title:
>Blood & Iron:
>The Case for an Empire of Liberty

I'm not sure if 'acceptance of mutation as part of nature's scheme of evolution' is correct though.

The mutations were caused by humanity via nuclear war, not nature. Instead of acceptance, I think we should replace this section with a reference to:
>aiding those poor souls who have been harmed by mutation - a legacy of the problems of the old war. Through science, we will strive to make them truly human once again.
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>>1744674
Damm son, thats perfect
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>>1744730
The Hubologists would like to build a church.
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>>1744651
Alright just tell them they be smarter, stronger, and faster, able to do more things they want to do like research or other things. Like we have implants but we look normal in all regard. We're not giving out robots arms or legs, or tiny things that can't be seem.
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>>1744753
>>1744761
Almost hivemind.
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>>1744819
I like a good meme now and then. I'm trying to test my skills with photoshop
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>>1744762
>aiding those poor souls who have been harmed by mutation - a legacy of the problems of the old war. Through science, we will strive to make them truly human once again.

Problem with that though, is not every mutant will see it as a weakness and may get offended by it. Im not trying to turn this into a PC argument but how does this sound?

>In a society of Intellectuals that constantly seek to better themselves, with the grasp of science even the potential to reverse mutations exist for those that want it.
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>>1744813
Well, they can get a church once they aren't a dumb, cashgrab with practices based on self-harm.
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>>1744813
Let them build a church.

If they are asking us to build a church for them, I gotta pass.
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>>1744843
They are requesting Hexcrete and some robots when you are not using them in a construction action.

They actually are willing to pay for it, and have a considerable amount of bottlecaps.

Actually, your wallet has REALLY been hurting since your ladies got those goodies from the NCR and you could use this. . .
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>>1744837
your way is better.
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>>1744856
If they pay for the materials, and build it themselves using the bots, Im fine with that.
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>>1744856
Let them do it, but only if they offer humanitarian services to the populace, religious or not, in exchange we will offer up some air conditioners and an Alexa for their church as well.
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>>1744837
I like the way yours sounds, but I wanted to push it more as a state goal than an personal option for individual mutants - to mollify relations with the Enclave / BoS.
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>>1744891
I think just working on the cure would go a substantial way with BOS/enclave.
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>- Tell the Hubologists to chill it a little bit with the preaching / converting
You talk with AHS-9 again, now in more priestly attire.

"The Great Wheel of Truth rolls on, firebird. To deny it is to deny that which makes us ourselves.

We do not force faith on those who refuse it, the Wheel simply passes over them, alignment must be sought after. But in the face of the coming 2nd apocalypse, truly the need to add more to the spokes of the Hub is upon us.

As for the money. You have studied history have you not? Then you must understand that the offering of tithes to sustain the faith is a fundamental practice among many religions."

Well, it is true. Your follower correspondence in Utah mentions the Church regularly asks everyone for 10% of their total income, to be used to maintain the church.

>>1744881
"Certainly we can offer humanitarian aid. Though, you maintain such a well run society that there are no poor or hungry to speak of. Only those poor in spiritual knowledge, and hungry for alignment.

Many of us are willing to engage in your medical training programs however and we are quite intelligent in the preventment and treatment of radiation injuries."
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>>1744331
Last new poster for now QM.

This one highlights our growing robotic forces and has a swipe at the NCR for wasting human lives.
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>>1744919
Yeah, tithes are important to sustain the faith, but what do you need with the money that the state cannot provide? You do not need to pay to feed your people, or to clothe them, or to give them homes. What else would the money be needed for?
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>>1744939
Oh, this will be PERFECT if you were ever to invest in robotic humanoid soldiers.
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>>1744939
Do you have anything criticizing the NCR's anti tribal dogma?
>>1744954
>Oh, this will be PERFECT if you were ever to invest in robotic humanoid soldiers.
Aren't our new Securitrons robotic humanoid soldiers?
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>>1744709
Supporting this dialogue towards our companions.

Sell them on the notion that the augments improve at their ability to do basically everything.
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>>1744941
"It is an indivisible element of our faith. The Hub ordained that church leaders be those with the intellectual and organizational capability, and proof of this is known through how they steward the finances given to them in life.

And certainly there are still things which are not offered freely and must be paid for. A new church for instance. And had we not the money, we could not pay you for it. Is this not proof enough?"
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>>1744971
They're more boxy like, in general your securitron model retain the basic securitron shape.
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>>1744993
You could have /can still pay for it with your labor.
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>>1745049
"Surely we are capable researchers were you to teach us the sciences you have discovered. But I have seen conventional payment does not form part of your economic scheme."

You don't actually pay anyone really. Mostly, researchers and companions just get better private housing and you offer your wives fine gifts.
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>>1745070
I do want to implement some kind of economy system. I think one anon had the idea of a Credit system a while back, but I'm hesitant to use money.

Complete Side question
Does the Courier know about the GARY vault that clones functioning GARYS? Because somehow they found a way around the brain problem - Mostly.
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>- Talk to Sam
You find Sam in the (as of yet, not yet finished) underground farms reading beneath a lamplight.

There's some piles of books around her. Self-help books and psychology stuff, focused around gaining independence.

>Sam
"Hi daddy. . .I guess mommy told you what happened.

I'm my own Me daddy. I don't need mommy or the others to tell me who I am or what I should be doing. I should decide for myself what I believe in.

Didn't you do that? Mommy said you could have listened to the NCR, to House, or to Caesar. But you decided to follow your own self instead."

>What do
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>>1745095
Nope. Doesn't ring a bell.
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>>1745116
"True honey, and i can't say i don't enjoy how you decided to forge your own path but i am worried about why you decided to do this now. What's in your mind Sam."
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>>1745116
Yes, it is important to know who you are, and know your own path in life.
But Me and your mother just want what's best for you, so we tell you what to do. Because we love you and we want you to grow up to be a a wonderful person.
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>>1745148
>>1745161
Supporting these.
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>>1745116
Sam, Its beautiful that you are taking tge steps to being your own person. Yes thats what I did, although its more complicated when it comes to Nations and Country's.

Ultimately you should be able to choose your own path, and I'm proud of you.

But at the same time your my darling daughter and I love you. Im always going to look out for you and try my best to keep you safe. You may not always agree with my decisions, but I want you to come and talk with me if thats the case.

Or something along that line.
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>>1745116
It comes a time in everyone life to be independence that time is around 18. As a child you are still dependence of other, it's not until teen years when girls start doing their own thing.

Getting independence is a long process, that you need the help of you mother and father to get to. If thrown too early at independence most of the times doesn't work out. Momma and me are going to help you one step at a time, first of all it's starts with chores.
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>>1745116
>We didn't do it at your age and we sure as hell didn't cut out our parents that love and are there for us. I wish I could contact Breeder number 56# and Father 04# from my tribe.
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Have we ever introduced Sam to oir brain? That might be a fun field trip
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>>1744971
>Do you have anything criticizing the NCR's anti tribal dogma?
Here you go Anon.
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>>1745209
Wow, you're going ham with this. It's some high quality stuff.
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>>1745209
Oh man if you could make a Legion variant we could post that and this side-by-side and point out the similarity.
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>>1745209
Good poster anon
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>>1745209
Also i recall one anon posted some art of a home in a hill surrounded by greenery, i think that could make for good "Living alongside nature" propoganda.
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>>1744437
>That's a good idea, we are moving forward and at the same time Swing was the King of old world American music
Make it mostly patriotic songs though - maybe a 70/30 split.

>We can keep the anthem tune and even make a new recording. But the original lyrics are a bit out of date, and we need something that ties people to the new.
>Probably should change the "star spangled banner" part as our banner is not spangled with stars.
Supporting these. I'm no good at lyrics, but replacing mentions of the old flag with our new one + throwing in some triumphalist lyrics about us emerging from the fires of the Old World to reclaim our birthright would be good.
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>>1745225
This one?
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>>1745148
>>1745161
>>1745176
Support.
>>1745182
>>1745184
Also support clarifying the mechanics of independence.

>>1745209
>>1745217
I never thought propaganda creation could be this exciting!

Where are you getting these pictures from, anon?
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>>1745227
Ye.
Just add "A life of harmony" or something.
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>>1745231
It seems like most of us anons know how to talk about independence.
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>>1745216
>>1745221
Many thanks Anons, glad to hear it hit the mark.

>>1745217
Same image with different copy, or a new one entirely?

>>1745225
As in pro-Phoenix propaganda or anti-Legion (calling them backwards?)

>>1745231
>Where are you getting these pictures from, anon?
Have a stash of some, others I've just found on the net and edited.
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I just got done binge reading the archive over the last couple days, and I'm at once amazed by the QM's output and ability, and incredibly disheartened by how little effort is being put into robotics.


Did you guys forget that every single faction but us routinely fields more in singular military excursions than we have in our entire population? Why isn't the immediate focus on getting a decent source of iron to make steel from, so we don't have to keep constantly relying on scavenging and trading with our most daunting competitor? Why isn't securing the great divide as a massive pile of resources not an immediate priority? There were some stupid fucking decisions early on, but why are you guys ignoring the handful of opportunities we have to remain relevant in the face of a Legion and and NCR that are both flourishing?

>>1745161
support, keeping her closer to us and away from the fucking forecaster is extremely important. We should also spend more time getting to know him, since all this quasi-divine shit is ramping up into an actual plotline.
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>>1745244
>Same image with different copy, or a new one entirely?
Just add a red streak on top of the Whip guys helmet and change the text.
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>>1745238
Yeah. I saw the first 3 as easing into the conversation on what she thinks independence is.
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>>1745244
>As in pro-Phoenix propaganda or anti-Legion (calling them backwards?)
Kinda Pro-Phoenix, more like Pro-nature, i want to please Joshua.
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>>1745226
Well the old anthem is already about surviving what should have been an end, so the imagery still stands as is.

So it becomes simple syllable replacement.
instead of star span-gled ban-ner, we could have
"flame-bird-touched ban-ner"

the instance of "broad stripes and bright stars" can just have the stars made singular, because we have only 1 star on the flag.
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>>1745249
>Why isn't the immediate focus on getting a decent source of iron to make steel from, so we don't have to keep constantly relying on scavenging and trading with our most daunting competitor?
Mate i've been trying to get us a secure resource for a while now. Currently i plan to build power plants so we can spend the energy on making Fissile material to convert into resources.
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>>1745244
>As in pro-Phoenix propaganda or anti-Legion (calling them backwards?)
NCR has lots of industrial chopping down 200 year old trees. But we have the upper hand in tech so we don't need to harm nature to fuel our civ.

Like Pro-Nature, more than NCR.
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writing
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>>1745249
Iron is a major difficulty even for the NCR. The West Coast is Iron Poor and there are only a handful of mines to be found in California. If there are others they are probably east, or south in Mexico or maybe up north in Canada.

Most iron is recycled from scrap, the Old World was fortunate enough to leave a mountain of the stuff everywhere.

Well, everywhere there were big cities at least. For you guys BigMT is really called the "Big Empty" for a reason.
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>>1745283
We NEED to do both of those really quick, and tie up some of the dozens of loose ends we're surrounded by. We've got obscene research potential, but we're trying to do everything at once instead of picking a few things to be good at like everyone else, and it's costing us. The NCR are killing us in tech (and Oddball is metagaming hard all on his own), the Legion are kicking ass with millennia-old fucking farming techniques, the Midwestern Brotherhood have us vastly out-roboted, and the MLA/Shi have much better radation and mutation tech.


We need to establish a few clear focuses for research, and we need to secure reliable supplies of fissile material and iron. If we don't do these two things, we're going to end up a satellite state of one of the actual big boys. Hell, we're already halfway there with the fucking NCR. We sat there while our assorted concubines ooh'd and aah'd over THEIR tech and infrastructure.


We built semi-modern houses with modern amenities and called it good, when we were thinking it would be a focus of our nation early on. You guys are tearing the country in a million different directions, and it's slowly killing us as everyone else ramps shit up. PLS STAHP

>>1745318
If that's the case, then we really need to dump loads of effort into improving the viability of the mantle iron pump. It's distant, but if that's the only way to wean ourselves off the resources of our competitors, then it needs to happen. Hell, Nazi California did it and they're doing fucking great!
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>>1745318
BigMT does report there may be an Iron Mine in "Iron County Utah" but the area is indicated to be deep within Legion territory.
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>>1745331
Fuck it, then we rape the Legion there and take their shit. This is hilariously crucial to us having any chance of being anything other than a meme city state.
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>>1745335
General Kreger and the Brain suggest acquiring the Divide for its mountain of hitherto untouched metal resources will be the real godsend to your power base.

Especially now that you have a way to convert radioactive steel into non-radioactive steel once you get the disinegrator variant of replicator online.
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>>1745271
Here you go Anons.
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>>1745330
Problem with the Mantle drill is that it takes like 5 energy sources to power the damn thing, we could just use those 5 energy sources to make Fissile materials instead.
I recommend we begin construction of another solar farm/tower.
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>>1745116
>>1745184
>I wish I could contact Breeder number 56# and Father 04# from my tribe.
This reminds me, the Courier is from the "Tribe" Tribe, they don't seem to have any last names, and their tribal location would likely be named something similarly generic. Would the Courier's full name be similar to how "Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci" was named? Something self-descriptive like "Courier di Hunter da Village?"
It seems like his tribe’s naming system would be similar to what some of those Italian Renaissance folks used.
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>>1745343
Oh yea that hits me right in my agrarian bias.
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>>1745347
>Problem with the Mantle drill is that it takes like 5 energy sources to power the damn thing, we could just use those 5 energy sources to make Fissile materials instead.
The mantle drill would provide more steel however. It may be something you want to try when you've acquired huge amounts of power like say, repairing hoover dam or conquering the NCR.

Or who knows, you may find something else on your journeys
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>>1745356
I like that, and i'm not just saying that cause i'm Italian.
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>>1745341
"Thank you Brain, Kreger, you are truly my greatest allies."

That settles it, we need to take the Divide hard and fast. We can commit our spaceship, seeing as we can apparently repair it semi-reliably, and maybe the vertibird, since ground invasion works so slowly. Using the jury-rigged inertial engines we developed and then did NOTHING with to create a decent cargo ship to bypass the logistical hassle of moving large quantities of heavy material all that way would also be a godsend, and eliminate the need for roads and rails while opening entire new avenues for vehicular science.
>>1745347
>>1745361

With this in mind and the Brain and Kreger explicitly saying "Hey dumbass, literally all the shit you need is right there", and the fact that the divide will remain uncontested the entire time we claim it, the only logical option is to secure it as quickly as we possibly can.
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>>1745377
yup, that's what we're doing.
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>>1745377
The Divide is right above us we don't need to build the airship for it.
Utah on the other hand will need it.
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>>1745277
Those are quality changes - supporting.
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>>1745148
"I disagree'd with Mommy and the others.

It was very hard to do!

When Mommy and Unity have a question or a problem, they all think together. Everyone has different ideas, and different ways they see things. Then they all get together to see things from everyone else's way, and hear all the other ideas. Mommy says since everyone is informed and sees from all perspectives, the best idea naturally is agreed on. This happens very fast and all the time.

Well, I disagreed! I think I'm the only one. Mommy thought it would take a lot of 'willpower' to disagree even when everyone agrees. But I think Mommy talks louder than everyone else.

I disagree'd that I felt bad that you won't let me talk to my best friend."
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>>1745453
Wait, did we ban her from talking to the forcaster, or did we just tell her he couldnt come with us to NCR?
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>>1745453
>I disagree'd that I felt bad that you won't let me talk to my best friend.
I don't understand this, is she saying she doesn't feel bad?
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>>1745176
>>1745161
"I know you love me daddy. I love you too.

If I can talk to you, I want to know why you are afraid of Clay. He's nice to me. I don't think he'd hurt me. The monsters he killed were evil, like the monsters you kill all the time. You eat their meat, he eats their soul."

>>1745182
"Chores.

Well, Joeclyn says normally she doesn't let people my age join the Rats. But she says I'm taller and smarter than someone should be at my age.

She's asking me to join the rats. I want to."
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>>1745474
She's saying she feels bad about it, but the hivemind says everything rationally points she shouldn't feel bad about it.

But she thought about it very hard and decided she wanted to feel bad about it.

>>1745467
You did both.
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>>1745475
>The difference is we let there souls pass on, we don't force them to become with us.
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>>1745484
"They were very bad monsters daddy. They were planning to hurt us.

He won't keep their souls forever. Just while he is alive. He needs them to be strong because he says there will be more evil things he needs to fight in the future."
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>>1745475
Being a destroyer of evil does not make someone good. While Clay did hurt bad monsters, We believe it was done for his own purposes, which can end with you getting hurt.

It is important to judge not just the action, but also the motive.

You can join the rats. But also go to school, keep up with you're studies. Now that you're not part of Unity, you have to learn things on your own.
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>>1745475
>He's nice to me. I don't think he'd hurt me.
"I can understand that but i have to tell you something, even if you don't think he would hurt you doesn't mean he won't, i am your father and i worry about you Sam, and i don't want any harm to come upon you. So if i can't convince you to stop talking to him then i can only do one thing to guarantee your safety and that is teach you how to defend yourself, whether against a stranger, clay or even me, that way if he does anything bad you can just hurt him worse."
>The monsters he killed were evil, like the monsters you kill all the time.
"And people used to shoot ghouls on site cause they thought they were monsters too, but you know their appearance doesn't make them bad right? The it's the same with the people underground, just cause they felt evil doesn't make them evil, we don't know who they were or what kind of life they had and now we never will, if you think that's for the better than you have the right to believe that, but i won't trust a single person's account of an entire community."
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>>1745519
Like what? What has he told you sweetie? And I just want you to know that I'm scared of losing my little Sunshine and your mother.
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>>1745475
>Clay
Who's Clay? Is that the Forecaster's real name?
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>>1745531
Supporting
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>>1745544
Yes
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>>1745544
yes
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>>1745531
Supporting
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>>1745531
>and that is teach you how to defend yourself
Sam's eyes light up.

"I would really like that daddy! I would be able to impress Joeclyn too if I knew skills like that."

CHOOSE:
>What would you like to teach your daughter? Probably everything but anythig specific or to start with?

>>1745531
"But he did know daddy. He tried to sneak among them by pretending to be their friend. He found out they were planning to sacrifice us to their evil god."

>>1745534
"He doesn't know. He just says he's scared."
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>>1745475
>He's nice to me.
Sometimes people pretend to be nice to get closer to people.

I'm not saying that Clay is doing that - I just want you to be cautious around others. You can always trust your family, everyone else should be treated with some suspicion.
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>>1745579
>What would you like to teach your daughter? Probably everything but anythig specific or to start with?
Well if the prophecy says Clay is gonna use a knife Unarmed combat is a must, we should also teach her how to spot lies and charmers, some survival skills and some mental fortitude in case Clay tries any Psychic powers on her.
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>>1745579
Teach her gun safety first and unarmed combat
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>>1745597
>>1745599
Supporting.
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>>1745599
support.
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So do we try to harness the forecaster's psyker shit (since everyone else very clearly is trying to get their own), or do we just try and minimize his power?
So far, I'd say he's more of an asset than a liability, according to Sam.
>>1745396
I wasn't thinking an airship necessarily, more sort of like a floating cargo barge. Basically a big floating pseudo-truck that'd eliminate the need for roads or rails, and might be more energy efficient thanks to the lack of friction.
>>1745597
>>1745599
Supporting as well
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>>1745579
>But he did know daddy. He tried to sneak among them by pretending to be their friend. He found out they were planning to sacrifice us to their evil god.
"And he's the only one who knows that firsthand, as i said i won't trust a single persons account of an entire community. Do you know when i first met the Unity i thought they were bad too, but i learned later that wasn't the case, the same could have happened with the underground people but now well never know."
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>>1745622
I don't think we can make a Inertia drive for a truck sized aircraft, it's limited to airships.
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1745599
Roll me 1d100
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>1745655
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Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>1745655
>4
What does it mean?
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>>1745597
>Well if the prophecy says Clay is gonna use a knife Unarmed combat is a must,
Why's that? Does Unarmed Combat counter Melee Combat? Or is that in case of an ambush?
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>>1745663
>Why's that? Does Unarmed Combat counter Melee Combat? Or is that in case of an ambush?
I am assuming unarmed combat includes techniques against a opponent wielding a knife.
Please correct me if i'm wrong QM.
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>>1745671
Not in game actually, that falls under melee combat skills though yes unarmed will help teach one how to deal with someone who is armed.

However, in your opinion the first rule of unarmed combat should be "do not be unarmed."
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>>1745695
Ah, then teach her Unarmed combat and melee combat on top of everything else i listed.
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>>1745695
Hmm. Does she have shapeshifting powers? If she can make a knife whenever she wants, then we should teach her how to knife fight.
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>>1745655
>>1745659
It's very strange for Sam, she says.

"I always could just ask mommy or someone to know something, now I can't. Hmmmm."

So she decides to "relearn" the basics of riflemanship, melee combat, and others from you. Her muscle memory is lacking, but she's a sharp learner.

And surprisingly strong. Her grip packs a whallop and you believe she could break your hands easily.

But you know from experience strength is not everything, and so teach her the basics of melee and unarmed combat. She feels proud to know these things now "all by herself."

>>1745709
She tries to shapeshift, its very hard. She tends to melt back into a blob and its sort of become natural for her to assume her human form.

It's also rather disturbing to watch. I mean, besides the melting part, seeing her attempt to grow a bone claw out of her hand "like some of Mommy's fighters." It also hurts, but then she learns how to minimize the sensation of pain too.

She's a sharp learner and you feel the potential for her is great, though you wonder if it would be greater if she were still part of the Unity.

---

Rest of the turn incoming.
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>>1745744
Hold on we haven't taught her how to detect lies and resist charmers, do we have to dedicate another hero action to do that?
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>>1745744
Im actually proud of our little monster.
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>>1745751
As for that, you test her on logic and detecting holes in alibi's, as well as how to read people's emotions.

In regards to logic she's brilliant.

In regards to reading emotion. . .not so much. Evidently she was very reliant on actually feeling emotions telepathically, such that subtleties in speech are, frankly, poor for her. Hmmm, could be why she was attracted to a mind reader who could see that type of thing a bit more clearly.

Another thing to keep up her lessons on.
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>>1745763
Gotta max that perception.
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>>1744651
>>1744709
>>1744680
>>1744814
It takes a lot of convincing and talking, but eventually you convince the holdouts to give it a try. Maybe not all of the augments, but most anyway.

Thankfully it seems none of them regret it so far. On the upshot Cass' heart problem is no more, fixed by the Auto-Doc.

All your available human companions and scientists have been augmented
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Hey who wants to archive the last thread?
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The LAER Securitron is a simple enough design. 20 LAER Hazard bots have been passively produced and are being shipped to the frontline.

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The Chinese have made good use of the Steel. They are sending in 3 entire Platoons of Men! 1 Platoon is built around the Bawang Tank already built. 1 Platoon are armed with 2 "Lóng Tanks" which apparently means flamethrower tanks equipped with napalm.

They have also produced 1 single artillery platoon, based around a self propelled long range artillery gun! This one has a built in autoloader and electronic targeting system (though it needs to be fed Radar information) and fires either conventional HE shells or incendiary napalm shells. Boomers ain't got nothing on this. . .

Each platoon has a contingent of 2 or 3 squads of men each, including crew. However they all are equipped with Old World basic Hazmat suits. These are suitable enough for surviving in normal divide conditions, but not enough to protect against sandstorms and the like thus their crews will necessarily be relegated to be close to shelter and safety, and will have to take cover during Divide storm.

The Chinese request new protective suits specifically for conditions in the divide.
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>>1745923
Agree to the suits, ask if we can see the designs for those weapons they have.
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>>1745908
Gimme a description.
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>>1745923
fine, well get around to it.
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>>1745939
The NCR pushes The Legion, We discover nuclear alchemy, The Divide campaign begins.
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>>1745939
Went to see the Legion, Discover Nuclear Alchemy, prepare for Divide Campaign, and find out about NCR war efforts
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>>1745936
You need to research the suits.

The Chinese have several blueprints from their warfactory actually.
>Main Battle Tank
>Rotary Autocannon Tank
>Stealthed Communications Truck
>Armored Troop Transport
>Electromagnetic Scrambler Tank
>Self Propelled Howitzer
>Atomic Cannon
>"Bawang" Tank

There are apparently more than this, but one would have to get clearance from China to unlock other advanced vehicle types.
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>>1745964
What's their Main Battle tank like?
Also last thread is now archived.
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>>1745964
Alright for now they have to make due. We're going to get the suits ready when we get the chance

Also some cool designs that will be useful for us.
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>>1745971
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Battlemaster_tank

>>1745964
They also have a flamethrower tank, unless that requires clearance.
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>>1745971
Propaganda would put the Chinese Main Battle Tank as superior to anything the Americans could field.

Realistic tactical knowledge show that while perhaps not the most sophisticated tank of the Old World, they were easy to produce and had decent armor and firepower. Which are good traits for any tank, especially in your case.

The conventional design is powered by gasoline, but later in the war a newer, faster design was based around nuclear engines. These however, had a terrible tendency to explode and leak radiation when a tank was destroyed so more stable and expensive isotopes had to be used.
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may pass out, going to try to put out this turn update
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>>1745996
Can't we improve their designs to modernize them?
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BY THE WAY

IF YOU HAVEN'T YET VOTE ON THIS>>1744437
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>>1746200
Make 2 Stations with just classics and one for the new music with Jazz in it.

>>1746200
ANTHEM:
Well the old anthem is already about surviving what should have been an end, so the imagery still stands as is.

So it becomes simple syllable replacement.
instead of star span-gled ban-ner, we could have
"flame-bird-touched ban-ner"

the instance of "broad stripes and bright stars" can just have the stars made singular, because we have only 1 star on the flag.
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>>1746196
Certainly, though BigMT wasn't heavy into tank research but you can start modifying them.

It may be easier to apply upgrades than to alter the blueprints however, as the War Factory is specifically designed to produce them as they are and changes are made difficult by the programming being in Chinese. So jurry rigging is likely.

Although, per stipulation in the treaty you signed the Chinese would like to retain the rights to use Chinese equipment in their army.
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>>1744437
>That's a good idea, we are moving forward and at the same time Swing was the King of old world American music

>People like Moreno would want the old Anthem, and it would make our ties to the Old World stronger. Perhaps a newer rendition is in order instead, rather than some old holotape. That would please the traditionalists.

Can't find if I voted yet, if so ignore 1.
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In regards to the Anthem, you have decided to keep the tune and most of the Lyrics as they are still relevant.

Perhaps, even more so considering how the beacon of liberty and freedom is surrounded upon all sides by tyrrany.

The only adjustment will have to be Star Spangled Banner in regards to the new flag, you're working on something right now.

>con't
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>>1744437
two stations for classics and swing.
Also include actual classical music in the classics station if possible.

three votes for modifying the words for the anthem with specifics.
>>1745277
>>1745414
>>1746204
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>>1746214
Rather than two dedicated stations, can we have 1 with just different programming blocks.

6am to 6pm - Patriotic music
6pm to 6am - modern swing + old world classics

3 News breaks at 8am, midday and 8pm co-hosted by Mr New Vegas and Mrs New Washington.
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>>1746204
Oh say do you see?
We survived the great fight
And though the trials arent done
Its our freedom we won
By the replicataaar
We make power from air
We proved through our pride
That the Phoenix will arise
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>>1746223
Just make two music stations. Keep the news breaks the same for each station.
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>>1746230
>Just make two stations
Why should we be wasteful?
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>>1746230
Works for me if that is technically feasible.

I just didn't want to cut into the number of listeners who hear our news segments by making two stations.

QM, did we upgrade the radio transmitter with that tech we found to boost the range?
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>>1746235
>Keep the news breaks the same for each station.
In my post just make the news happen at the same time, and it's the same thing. Allowing people that hear any of the two stations able to hear the news.

As people who don't like Swing music don't listen to the late news.
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>>1746229
These lyrics feels like they need to be read after we defeat one of the factions.
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>>1746235
We went digital already, so we're all good on that front.
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>>1746241
*Feels like they need to be sung
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>>1746229
Supporting this for anthem lyrics, breddy gud
>>1744437
>that's a good idea
We really need to distinguish ourselves, since the QM is making the other assorted factions have actual fucking cultures unlike in the games. Getting some specific music and developing a vibe will go a long way towards that
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Dean Domino was very finnicky about the tempo and sound of the new recording. You suspect he wasn't much of a patriot before the war, but damned if he isn't a professional. He goes to Baker with a heap of Dr. 8's sound equipment where their Cathedral has much better acoustics. Even though the entire place is like "walking a nightmare".

Unity doesn't seem to mind he conducts blindfolded.

You come up with the new lyrics. You figured it out. Keep the old lyrics, but make your own addition.

It all comes together. Your words. Unity's voice (she makes a mean chorus) and Dean Domino's touch.

The End Result goes live. You ask Moreno how he feels.

He won't admit it, but you suspect he's in tears smiling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0GFqrCcwes

>Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
>Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight
>O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
>And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air
>Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there
>Oh, say, does that Firebird's Banner yet wave
>O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

>And still we can see as the years have gone by
>There's a dream in our land, like the flame that is burning
>And the lantern of hope from the harbor still shines
>Those who seek free doms’ dreams to it's light are still turning
>Now we look to the skies and we lift up our eyes
>For we know with the dawn we will see our flag rise!
>And this is our Firebird's Banner unfurled
>As a sight to the free, and a hope to the world!
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>>1746229
You jot this down as as an option for a personal victory addition once you win the war or unite America again.
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>>1746262
>We really need to distinguish ourselves, since the QM
Yeah, agreed.

That was the idea behind this nationalistic culture push. Our people need to know what we stand for and why it is better than the other factions.

Hopefully all of these actions will have helped with that.

Anyone have additional elements for the Courier's book?
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>>1746279
Well, It could do with another syllable between firebird and Banner, but it's good stuff.
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>>1746285
>Anyone have additional elements for the Courier's book?
How about economy? What kind are we going for?
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>>1746279
Perfect.
>>1746285
We should be sure to emphasize the opportunity present in the NPC. The NCR is honestly doing a fantastic job of pushing national socialism, and we're working with a similar base, with our book basically being a response to Yaunker's, even being similar in basic tenets. We need to make sure that the average wastelander fuck reading it will be able to understand that you can live a good life in the NCR, but only in a place like New Washington can you truly soar.

I think the Courier's personality will really shine through and put a good spin on things to help the differentiation, but I think he'd be bold enough and well-spoken enough to just cut straight to speaking in the 2nd person in the book, and address readers directly to illustrate the differences. I think something blunt like that would really get through to the average wastelander.
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When you come up with new ideas that you all agree on, tack them in your hero action (as long as that hero action lets you write) so I know its consensus when the vote goes through.

Now for the turn calcing
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>>1746279
Absolutely cracking!

Now to play it over the air waves and have it sung in our school every Friday morning.

>>1746296
Mix of private enterprise and state control.

Mass replicators and robots render most conventional jobs meaningless, in an almost post-scarcity way.

Everyone will receive a basic income to guarantee a base living standard. If they want to work on top of that - say if they enjoy carpentry and make chairs, they can sell them in an open market.

Replicators obviously remain under state control; but do we allow the individual ownership or robots, or are citizens just 'leasing' them from the state?
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>>1746311
We didn't talk with that one supermutant yet, and we were going to.
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>>1746319
Oh right.
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>>1746317
iirc, we agreed that outside of basic rations and housing, citizens would otherwise be on their own in terms of employment and payment. So, for instance, they could certainly own whatever robots they pleased (as long as it didn't chafe our taint), but if they somehow fucked up hard enough for them to go bankrupt, they'd at least have a government subsidized house, food, and essentials to fall back on.

Right now we're basically a state dictated economy due to the necessities of gearing a nation of a few hundred for war with nations of several hundred thousand, but this will eventually relent, and we'll see much much more private enterprise begin to take off as we saw in the boxcars.
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>>1746317
I disagree with the basic income thing, unless you mean the food and housing welfare.
Other than that i agree, however i believe we should also promote small artisan businesses rather than just let people work if they want to.
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>>1746317
>Everyone will receive a basic income to guarantee a base living standard.

Lolno, They do something they get to sell it and make money. We don't support freeloaders. And Replicators are strictly state controlled.
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>>1746317
No to basic income, they work to get money to buy the goods and services they want. Their needs are in the most part safe.

We need to promote a good work ethic, that they make business and make wealth. It help us more if the people are making their own factories.
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>>1746354
>We need to promote a good work ethic, that they make business and make wealth.
I agree but i rather we promote a work ethic of refining craftsmanship, inventing and contributing to the community instead of wealth.
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>>1746317
I support that.
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>>1746332
>>1746341
Yeah I'm fine with these.

By 'basic income' I just meant government provided basiscs - housing, food, utilities.

Cool, sounds good. Where do we stand on private weapon ownership, ala 2nd Amenment? Personally, all for it.

Private ownership of military grade weapons or robots should be illegal though.

I wonder what the NCR's policy on private weapon ownership is, probably against it given the dictatorship. Would be a good point of differentiation about us trusting our citizenry with the security and survival of the state.
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>>1746365
I agree.
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We could always make a custom replicator that only makes civilian items - food furniture the like, and put them in a public building for people to use / spend their income on.
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>>1746365
>Private ownership of military grade weapons or robots should be illegal though.
So unamerican of you even for Old world America.

People should be able to buy a Mr.Handy for their home or place of work. We should train the people in a event of total mass attack from foreign powers. Only a few days of the year.

>>1746362
They need a work ethic to do the refining and other things
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>>1746373
That would be a possibility.
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>>1746375
>They need a work ethic to do the refining and other things
Yes, which is why i'm supporting the worth ethic?
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>>1746375
We could have them do 2-3 years of civil service, which includes the military, Ala Switzerland.
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>>1746365
Good on second amendment. Folks who have lived through the rough periods like these are gonna be loathe to give them up.

Some weapons should be restricted of course, Super hi-end tech that our military use and AOE weapons like fat men will not be available to the general public. Eventually though, the regulations can be relaxed to allow mil-tech but still no explosive/AOE weapons.
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>>1746365
>Private ownership of military grade weapons or robots should be illegal though.

No thank you mate.
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>>1746373
That is an excellent idea!
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>>1746365
I'm honestly not sure about the weapons. Disintegrators are so stupidly dangerous that there really shouldn't be any way for the average pleb to get their hands on one. Everything else should probably have a military-grade distinction on what's cool and what isn't though, from melee weapons to energy and laser stuff. Could probably have more restrictions lifted for former military and be fine though, especially with the augs.

The robots seem like an obvious "no" to everything but potential robot factories (though I really doubt we'll see anything that could match us turn up on a private scale), and that would require significant government oversight.

>>1746373
This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen, but can probably be delayed by making sure there's damn good security on the things. Maybe just make really sure that the dispensers are too small for anything dangerous, so even if they get hacked they don't have the capability to manufacture weapons or anything.
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>>1746375
>>1746385
So the public should be able to own their own Securitrons and Fatmen?

Seems like a dangerous position to hold...
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>>1746382
In Austria they also have compulsory Military Service
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>>1746389

Community dispensers. One big one that can fabricate most things. Allow us to keep an eye on whats being produced and create a centre of community where folks congregate to share schematics and generally mingle/hang out.
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>>1746365
Yeap. Supporting government aid in housing, food, water, and basic necessities like education, internet and ability to communicate over it, plus the likes. Even a small amount of basic income.

It's actually how some of the most notable futurologist have calculated that the future will hold for us with ever increasing automation and robotization.

Naturally however, it will not come for feee, so if you're on gov support, you're expected to perform certain duties for the betterment of the community.
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>>1746365
You picked up some NCR legal info on your way there, while passing through the state owned gun store.

"After a near century of Corporate parasitism tore at the structural fabric of society, a rapidly expanding divide between the people and the Corportions prompted the enactment of the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions previously tacked on by Corporate Lobbyst and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this law, all Californians can possess firearms and required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition.

The law restricts ownership of firearms to "persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." This law revoked the previous Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which severely restricted gun ownership and sales to profit the corporations.

As of now, in the NCR:
>Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition and completely deregulates the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.
>The legal age at which guns could be purchased is lowered from 20 to 18
>Permits are valid for three years, rather than one year.
>More classes of users are exempt from the requirement to hold an acquisition permit: holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and state party members are no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions.
>Manufacture of arms and ammunition requires a government permit, with the provison that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Tribals; Tribals can not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.
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>>1746398
So if you're on government support, you're given a job. Makes sense. Yaunker is doing that for the NCR's sweet 0% unemployment.
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>>1746395
Oh, that sounds pretty good. Long as there was some constant, decent security that'd probably be just dandy. I'm sure that'll produce all kinds of culture all on it's own.

We should set something like that up soon as we have the energy to, to help bolster the culture and give the citizens a new toy
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>>1746392
>So the public should be able to own their own Securitrons and Fatmen?
I say Mr. Handy in my post. Robots that was used for the people before the great war.

Fatmen, well they need to get a permit for that. :^) And other one for the ammo :^) And so many permits :^) that you only allow to buy it while in the military, and only use it in the military :^)

Permits will give us all the money we need.
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>>1746404
>Long as there was some constant, decent security

This is also a society where everything and anything you do is recorded on CCTV. Frankly, we should be fine.
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>>1746401
Ah fuck, they're out nazi-ing us and out-freedoming us.

How do we prove that we're the superior, more liberated state while maintaining our megalomaniacal god-emperor control?
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>>1746398
>so if you're on gov support, you're expected to perform certain duties for the betterment of the community.
Like for instance, making sure citizens pick up those cans.
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>>1746412
>while maintaining our megalomaniacal god-emperor control?
We don't necessarily have to, we could form a council if more of our companions stepped up to the plate and stopped idling.
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>>1746401
Hmm...much more free than I thought it would be.

The permit system does disguise the fact that government individuals can own a lot more than private individuals can.

It basically sounds good, but beuracratic red tape could tie you up.
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>>1746401
>state party members are no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions.
Get hyper numbers of members by giving them no restrictions Hmmm

>>1746417
It means that all of them are armed, and it be crazy to attack them. As we'll have militias popping up everywhere.
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>>1746417
We did throw around the idea of thorough identification of everyone- government mandated ID and such,
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>>1746416
>implying we would ever want to relinquish power in anything other than name
See, I feel that that's the obvious moral choice, but seeing as we are a literal superhuman that may not even ever actually die if we're not stupid, I'm not sure why we would ever allow the state to turn to anything more elective than an aristocratic/minimally-parliamentary monarchy.

The companion bit I agree with completely, however. The sooner we can find ways for most of them to get off their asses reliably, the better
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So we seem to be in agreement of our economy, if someone could organize what we agreed too for our hero action that would be great.
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>>1746416
Just God-Emperor from behind the scenes. Make a Senat and just tell them what to do. Do you think Tandi got re-elected for 40 years because she was cool?

Also, since we have under 1000 people this is not a problem for now. Shelve it until we reach 100 times that.
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So does anyone feel like relaxing our gun laws at all to compete, or do we not feel the need?

Frankly, I wouldn't mind if we had a better standing police force. Only problem is that our police are also soldiers, and will probably remain such for a good while.
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>>1746426
>>1746428
A significant number of our population is composed of companions too.
>>1746401
This makes me wonder, how much of our population is active?
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>>1746434
I don't really see a reason. We should get eyebots armed with stun weapons up once the population starts getting up there, but for now, things are going fine.
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>>1746439
I say 250 to 300 adults the rest kids
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>>1746439
>This makes me wonder, how much of our population is active?
I was thinking that too. What do our people actually /do/ day to day? Beyond those that are in the military or are scientists.
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>>1746444
OP said they work on the farms, few of them are cooks
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>>1746444
Probably just assorted farmers. I sincerely doubt Brain would allow genuine layabouts without informing us.
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>>1746444
I believe they farm.
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>>1746444
>>1746449
>>1746450
>inb4 we're more inefficient than the NCR and Legion.
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>>1746456
>inb4 we're more inefficient than the NCR and Legion.
Yep, all the more reason we have to build more solar farms.
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>>1746456
Man to man, there's no goddamn way. We've got a few hundreds to their several hundred thousand, and we're managing to compete. Not well, but we are.

Not to mention, most of the NCR's recent tech boons have been a result of one weasly faggot making off with samples of OUR tech to reverse engineer, and he certainly won't be getting anymore thanks to our big brother system. In fact, the first chance we get, we should assassinate the bastard just so their head rat is gone
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Are mayors a thing we want to start looking at setting up for our towns?
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>>1746444
Well we have 203 humans.
40 of them are freeside rats, so children
20 are researchers
14 are hubologists
10 are combat medics
64 are in 8 squads of 8 man (general infantry)\
15 are in 2 squads, on 8 man, other 7 man, of heavy weapons.

so we have 40 farmers, assuming non of the remaining are children who are not freeside rats.
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>>1746465
I'm still advocating the building of a ballistic missile to fire at his casino
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>>1746465
Capture and retrieve. Then torture and mount his head on a chiuaua Mars Attacks style. Feed him rats.
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>>1746444
Also exlcuding people with technical skills who become psudo-engineers working at the War Factory or keeping stuff running?

Farm, service industry, or housewife/home-father. Mostly farm, then service industry. Service industry includes stuff like helping Jannith cook, clean, and waiter/waitress at the kitchen. Scavenging for neat bits and things in around the BigEmpty (under spybot supervision of course). Or being a prostitute. Washing clothes. Unique small skills which you currently don't have robots for or aren't easily replicated by Alexa.

The Brain and James Bond strongly encourage people to be productive and without much more sophisticated schools, people learn how to farm.

Truth be told you could easily build enough Mr. Howdy's or agronators to remove even the need for human farmers. Or well, really, a lot of the service industries (cleaning, cooking, washing) can be replaced by Mr. Handy's in general.
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>>1746476
Use the flame bucket and rat torture trick.
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>>1746471
On that note, anyone have any ideas for actually growing our state at a reasonable speed? We're clearly going to have to push robot memes hard if we want to get anywhere, but how do we get our pop to grow when we can't really get immigrants and our people's ability to fug is limited?
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>>1746477
>Unique small skills which you currently don't have robots for or aren't easily replicated by Alexa.
So lewd OP
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>>1746478
>>1746476
>>1746475
At this point we'd be needlessly spiteful. Would be healthier for our people if we just write Oddball off, unless we get a golden opportunity.
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>>1746475
Too obvious. Infiltrate and spray his ventilation with fish guts. Stick a virus in his system and bug out all gambling machines/AC. Freeze his business, then capture him and then ICBM his shitty little hut.
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>>1746477
So we need to expand the school then.
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>>1746476
>>1746478
>>1746485
Then caricature it in the most outlandish ways possible so everyone watching thinks it's just REALLY good special effects.
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>>1746482
Alright slaves buying of course.
Getting tribe people, NCR must have them in the getto, or one of them civilizationism camps
Broadcasting people to join. (Spy risks)
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>>1746482
Didn't we get immigrants once? We can get some more.
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>>1746482
We're also pushing the culture of other people being dicks. I think we're forming alliances with some factions once we figure out the culture game to make them effectively vassals.
>>1746495
Yeah. We did a broadcast once and then stopped I think.

>>1746494
While we're buying slaves, why don't we try buying any of our captured people back?
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>>1746495
just have to broadcast
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>>1746494
The slave buying works, it's just a bit slow and not too cost efficient. Hadn't thought of the tribes though, could probably just wow them with all the neat shit and have things work out with some propaganda.
>>1746495
When did that happen?
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>>1746477
Funnily enough, this reminds you the Courier of the Story of Vault City.

Before their integration to the NCR, Vault City hired "servants" (better kept slaves according to Yaunker) to do all their hard and dirty work, and mercenaries to fight for them.

The native populace of Vault City itself then relegated to, what one person called, "jobs for octogenarian". Researchers, civil planners, engineers, repairmen, robotics experts, that sort of thing.
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>>1746500
>When did that happen?
Like way back a number of threads ago, back in thread 13-15 I think.
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>>1746494
Try and find the followers that left and incentivise having kids. Free days off or a helping Handy in the house if you go 3+ kids, for example.
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>>1746502
Well we are basically doing that, replace servant with robot.
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>>1746497
>>1746495
>>1746498
We did broadcast two times. One getting like 30s people, the second time the Enclave came and no people came, what up with that? People would have come for the second broadcast but didn't

>>1746500
Their could be Utah tribes not in the Crayon, or NCR would have some tribes in a getto somewhere.
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>>1746482
Develop a Baby making fertility program that suggests people make babies with who they match with. Perhaps use Alexa to do so.

Develop an artificial womb type thing, and have wmnz donate ovary eggs to mass baby make

See if we can work around the brain problem when it comes to cloning.

More conventional methods
-buying/freeing slaves
-recruiting tribals
-recruitment beacon
-ask the NCR if THEY want to become a vassal state.
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>>1746502
>>1746502
>Before their integration to the NCR, Vault City hired "servants" (better kept slaves according to Yaunker) to do all their hard and dirty work, and mercenaries to fight for them.
That sounds like an incredibly easy way to have a sudden, yet inevitable betrayal.
Also sounds incredibly Roman during its waning years, or what the other factions did during the 30 Years War.
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I'm liking this session a lot, I feel like we're making a lot of quality progress on addressing the issues that've come about from our lack of direction. I don't know where all this cohesion came from, but it's fucking great.
>>1746506
>>1746511
>>1746512
Seems like more than anything, we're in agreement about trying to induct more tribespeople and broadcasting to get more immigration. We should do this soon, and try to keep the propaganda/big brother shit up with it so that we don't suffer a fall like Vault City did.
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>>1746520
>I don't know where all this cohesion came from, but it's fucking great.
I think shitposts unifies us. It's like the propaganda is having a community effect here too.
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>>1746517
The helot revolts in Sparta are partially to blame for their decline in power.
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>>1746482
You know, were this any other civ game I'd say "encourage more families" but my Quest sort of runs on a much slower pace. Each turn being roughly a month (or less). Its not so much that your peoples ability to raise families is poor (in fact its probably great) but the timeframe to raise children to even 16 year olds.

Sam herself is only as smart as she is because of Unity. The rest of your children are still realistic 3-4 year olds.

Othergames handwave pop growth while allowing characters to not shrivel and die and I understand that perfectly, but in this case since we're working in Fallout timeframe it woudn't make sense for you to be a great grandfather in a few years.


>Brain
"Consider that, even where the NCR or Legion to be lax or emmigrants to slip through their grasp, the surrounding "Big Empty" is a fiery death trap of sand and a noted lack of water.

I imagine this is a major barrier to our immigration prospects, but may also be a reason why the Legion hasn't bothered with us.
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>>1746520
We should really focus more on getting resources rather than population.
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>>1746512
>Develop a Baby making fertility program that suggests people make babies with who they match with. Perhaps use Alexa to do so.
Sure, if two people get together faster they get more babies made. We can rig this, but no need with the womb idea.

>Develop an artificial womb type thing, and have woman donate ovary eggs to mass baby make
We can go selective breeding with this route, getting our sperm or other buy guys 4U and using it to get all the eggs ready to be grown. Since we have 10 in everything.
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>>1746526
>the surrounding "Big Empty" is a fiery death trap of sand and a noted lack of water.
The world's most intense immigration control is a natural barrier.

>>1746527
True, but the ability to get one sort of goes in hand with the other. More population to work stuff or more resources to get more people and so on.
Getting the Brains more sane would improve their research ability, but we're already past the necessary research from what I can tell for Supreme Commander tech.
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>>1746536
Supreme Commander has a scale we're not really close to reaching yet, but we do have the base technologies.

>>1746533
It might not be healthy genetically to have too many babies be ours.
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>>1746536
>The world's most intense immigration control is a natural barrier.
Now we just need to add a wall.

>>1746527
Getting population allow more brains in a tank, and more researchers. Allowing us to increase how much shit we can get each turn. Also Population is important while we're right in the middle of two major powers.

>>1746542
>It might not be healthy genetically to have too many babies be ours.
Have some big guys also in it. Realistic it don't be a problem, as in the 20 or years down the years our population would be so large it don't be a problem.
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If we go down the route of "Gen 3"Synths are people, we could just manufacture more population as well. With enough research.
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>>1746526
"Duly noted."
I get what you're doing, and I honestly think the way you're playing it, that is, making the assorted factions NOT pants on head retarded, and having actual, tangible progress be apparent in such a meager span of time, is the best way to go about it. I actually really really appreciate your attention to regulating the rule of cool while still allowing goodies like boons to come into play, and I think you're doing an excellent job of maintaining a consistently difficult but fair difficulty curve.

I also think that your strength of will must be fucking herculean to not have just quit with some of the painfully bad decisions that happened early on.


Maybe building a couple of roads either way, and some well-defined checkpoints would be good ideas. Might also work on a wall for New Washington itself, as the nameless officer suggested a while back.
>>1746527
I definitely get you, I'm certainly not advocating putting pop over resources, we need iron more than we need any single other thing right now. I'm just saying that we'll eventually hit a wall with how much we're able to automate things reliably, and a nation is a bit silly if it never gets past the size of a village, no matter how powerful.

Thankfully, it seems we've got plenty of avenues to pursue regarding pop growth.
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>>1746547
Yeah, but I think when we discussed Gen 3 synths a while back we agreed they were people, but we wouldn't make more.
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Ok here's a post with everything we want to add to our book.

The improvement of humans should also be cultural/social rather than just scientifically, through promoting a genuine desire to improve among the people, our goal should be not just being physically and mentally strong but also having a very wide arrangement of useful skills like cooking, crafting, reading, shooting, swordsmanship, martial arts, wilderness survival and any other stuff. Our goal is to make every person a king not by what they own but how they behave, what they are as a person.

And it is by improving the people that we improve the Nation, because it is the duty of Citizens to contribute to their community and the state in the fashion they believe is best, whether that be teaching others, making tools, researching and inventing or joining the military, and when the people are strong and help each other be better people do they make the nation strong, for the nations strength comes from the people.

In a society of Intellectuals that constantly seek to better themselves, with the grasp of science even the potential to reverse mutations exist for those that want it.

Mix of private enterprise and state control. We promote small artisan businesses centered around the work ethics of refining craftsmanship, inventing and contributing to the community instead of wealth.

Any objections?
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>>1746525
That and their ridiculously self-destructive policies.

>>1746542
>Supreme Commander has a scale we're not really close to reaching yet, but we do have the base technologies.
Once we do, are we going to pilot a command unit?

>>1746545
>Now we just need to add a wall.
And then make the NCR or Legion pay for it!

>>1746549
Didn't we also have the problem that we simply don't have the tech for that, at least until we meet the Institute?
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>>1746553
>Any objections?
None from what's stated.
Should we also mention the other points like what our economic policies are going to be, like the state welfare for people with the government jobs bonus?
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>>1746548
>I also think that your strength of will must be fucking herculean to not have just quit with some of the painfully bad decisions that happened early on.
Yeah, I know about the first thread, I rolled a nat 1 in it.


>>1746548
Maybe have a phone system in place with the roads. With some pictured printed on it, to call this number for water, and aid to come.
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>>1746542
On that note, next turn build small replicator under the mountain and start saving up for anuclear reactor.
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>>1746553
I like it.

>>1746554
No. We're going to Name ourselves Brackman, clone ourselves and have the clone pilot the command units.
I mean, we're already a brain in a jar leading a society of cyborgs.
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>>1746548
I actually find it funny. Sometimes I see how obvious I can make a path to power and even have characters outright say or request it and see if anon's still miss it.one of them even asked three times

It helps that my vision of a Courier is exactly how he would be in game: someone who can and will do absolutely anything at any time for any reason and give no fucks.

Hell, it seems to bother anons more than me even. Which is why I now give the Skill based options whenever I can.
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>>1746526
Back when we got immigrants it was suggested to keep few robots on the lookout at the borders where people are more likely to come from.
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>>1746559
So we're going from a bunch of refugees > BigMT city-state > proto-Brotherhood of Nod > Cybrans?
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>>1746553
Sounds good, I support it!

Did we want to add a section about the 2nd amendment?
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>>1746553
I support it.
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>>1746567
Yes!
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>>1746559
>>1746567
No bully best Faction. Spider Boat's are the best idea.
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>>1746553
Looks pretty good, with the caveat of a Courier style 2nd person excerpt to the reader directly. A nice little self-contained speech about what makes the NPC the obvious choice over the other two. Preferably at the end of the book.

>>1746557
Hadn't thought of the phone system, but having that hooked up to a little automatic response team of bots would be a great way to go about it. wouldn't sacrifice our natural border, and would still provide a reliable way to get a nice trickle of escapees and assorted immigrants.

>>1746560
Your hints and mercy have not gone unnoticed. I just binged the archives yesterday and today, and some of it was painful. Your characterization of all the assorted characters is really just excellent, but I think it's your take on the Courier that makes the whole thing work.
Like you said, it's his personality and "Fuck it"
approach that tie everything together and make the whole thing work without causing unbearable booty blasting. At the risk of seeming like I'm kissing more ass than I mean to, I really do think what you're doing requires a lot of talent to pull off, let alone with such success and reliability. I envy your ability.


The skill options are a welcome blessing, and I'm sure will save us many times to come.
>>1746567
Until the next inevitable huge plot shift comes, yeah, that seems to be the projected development timeline.
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>>1746566
>>1746495
I believe those immigrants were likely escapists from the Mojave following the immediate aftermath of the Legions conquest, before they got a stranglehold on the region.
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>>1746569
while we're on the subject of amendments, what other amendments do we want to talk about?

I support including the first 9 at least, also the 13th, since the tenth is about limiting centralized power.
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>>1746576
I like Cybran. Best tech, best experimentals. Salems are fun to play with.
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>>1746581
I would suggest turning your magnifying glass specifically on last thread if you have a chance, that was when someone was itching to remind you guys of a very obvious path to power that was outright stated in previous threads too.

This turn would have been a great one for it.
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>>1746591
You can lead a Horse to water, but it won't always drink.
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>>1746591
The ZAX right?
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>>1746591
Its using the BOON for ZAX isn't it.
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>>1746553
>>1746584
We're discussing reversing mutations in our book for why we seemingly treat them equally, which works great for the purist factions. Should we make mentions about humanity's descendants, derivatives, or off-shoots like the ghouls and Super Mutants are still considered one of us or treated as our children?
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>>1746591
It's the ZAX OP.
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>>1746584
>The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Limits our dictatorial powers too much, therefore I do not support it (for not at least)

>The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms.
Fully support, excluding clearly military weapons and robots

>The Third Amendment prohibits the government from quartering troops in private homes
Not relevant, don't support this.

>The Fourth Amendment protects citizens from unreasonable search and seizure. The government may not conduct any searches without a warrant, and such warrants must be issued by a judge and based on probable cause.
Limits our dictatorial powers too much, therefore I do not support it (for not at least)

>The Fifth Amendment provides that citizens not be subject to criminal prosecution and punishment without due process. Citizens may not be tried on the same set of facts twice, and are protected from self-incrimination (the right to remain silent). The amendment also establishes the power of eminent domain, ensuring that private property is not seized for public use without just compensation.
Limits our dictatorial powers too much, therefore I do not support it (for not at least)

>The Sixth Amendment assures the right to a speedy trial by a jury of one's peers, to be informed of the crimes with which they are charged, and to confront the witnesses brought by the government. The amendment also provides the accused the right to compel testimony from witnesses, and to legal representation.
Support this, legal norms are the foundation of any solid state

>The Seventh Amendment provides that civil cases also be tried by jury.
Support this, legal norms are the foundation of any solid state

>The Eighth Amendment prohibits excessive bail, excessive fines, and cruel and unusual punishments.
Limits our dictatorial powers too much, therefore I do not support it (for not at least)

>The Ninth Amendment states that the list of rights enumerated in the Constitution is not exhaustive, and that the people retain all rights not enumerated.
Sure, why not

>The Tenth Amendment assigns all powers not delegated to the United States, or prohibited to the states, to either the states or to the people.
We kinda /are/ the people, so not sure if relevant
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>>1746597
>>1746549
Like if we were to eventually get around to researching and making Synths or smart AI, would we treat them as one of humanity's children?
Do we have any plans for preventing robot revolutions besides keeping them as dumb AI?

>>1746591
>>1746595
Seems like it. Should we use the boon for it?
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>>1746581
>Your hints and mercy have not gone unnoticed. I just binged the archives yesterday and today, and some of it was painful.

Can you give examples of some stupid shit we did. The most retarded thing I believe we did was trying to fight Elijah alone.
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>>1746607
>The most retarded thing I believe we did was trying to fight Elijah alone.
It was a great test of our medical tech though.
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His name is Bradley. As a rule of thumb the Master preferred first names, as he believed all mutants part of the same family of unity now.

[PER 10]
Come to think of it Unity and Sam also only have first names.

>Bradley
"I think I was a scientist or a Doctor before I was dipped. Can't prove it except I wore white tattered coat after I was dipped.

I know how to treat wounds on other supermutants. The big ones that took time to recover. I was a medic in the Master's army.

I hear you have a means to extract brains which remember everything. Perhaps if you extracted mine, I could talk to it and remember."
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Hey other debating Courier thoughts, I just remembered something amazing. Do you guys remember when Brain told us specifically that the Zax was the key to our success in a one man war due to the personalities' experience in robotic warfare? I just spent the last ten minutes trying really really hard to remember stuff. I bet this would be a great thing to do with a boon, what say you, other Courier thoughts?
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Do we have a boon to use for ZAX? We also need brains.

There are few ways around that. Kidnapping from Legion. Finding volunteers to merge personalities. Developing cyber brain improvements that any brain will suffice.
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>>1746611
Lets do it.
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>>1746605
Sure. We could also get the 5 AI buddies going in it. Would be useful, I think. Then have R&D go about making better replicator tech and reactors. Industrialize BigMT and start printing robots on a mass scale.
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>>1746611
Give him what he want. Extract him brain so we can hear what it has to say.
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>>1746611
Let's do it
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the main reason the brain felt this turn would have been a good one is that you guys just spent a shit ton of fissile material on steel and a hyper-material efficiency matrix would have saved you a radioactive penny. wa waa

there's always next turn!
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>>1746617
+1
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Roll me a 1d100!
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>>1746614
I agree, although i still want to continue my plan to build more solar farms for more Fissile generation.
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>>1746611
So wait, is one of the cure to the cures to Nightkin insanity simply debraining them?

>>1746614
>Do you guys remember when Brain told us specifically that the Zax was the key to our success in a one man war due to the personalities' experience in robotic warfare?
When was this? I think it was mentioned they'd be of great help in their respective fields.
>>1746618
Sure thing.

>>1746622
So the solution was more research or better personnel... God damn it.
We should cure the Brains' insanity if this is the sort of bonuses we can see.
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>>1746622
Brain could stop being a little bitch and tell us such things.

to be honest I didn't quite get what you said
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Rolled 22 (1d100)

>>1746627
F
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>>1746631
Imagine if you had applied an emergency efficiency and material conservation matrix to the large scale repicator when converting fissile material to steel.
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Rolled 44 (1d100)

>>1746627
Why don't you accept the 3 rolls again?

>>1746632
Let me show you how it's done
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>>1746622
>>1746631
He said we could've spent a boon on the ZAX first, or some other personnel, done some research for better industry, then done the material conversions.
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Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>1746627
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>>1746631
I refer you to my earlier point, Courier thought
>>1746614
That Brain sure is a helpful guy. Would be a shame to not listen to such a great idea. All we really gotta do is nab five decent brains, which should be easy enough with the legion so close by and a flying saucer that can hold exactly five people, and has a tractor beam huh?
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>1746631
>>1746638
>Let me show you how it's done
No. Let's see THIS roll.
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>>1746644
wew
Lead the way, Bradley Brain
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>>1746644
>>>1746631
>>1746627
Somehow I derped and thought I was linking to the roll post instead.
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>>1746644
Let's hope this one counts.

>>1746637
Accept that Nat 100 please. You accept that Nat 1 from before.
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>>1746644
WE GOT A SUPER RARE GENIUS SCIENTIST!
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>>1746644
Turns out he used to be a super scientist
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Rolled 11 (1d12)

>>1746644
Well shit, time to write!

Rolling for good reasons!
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>>1746654
>Good
>11/12
You see? you see what happens when fruitful discussion takes place? The dice gods have bestowed their favor :D
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>>1746651
>>1746650
>>1746647
>>1746646
He is Dr. Brackman before he was made a super mutant.

>>1746654
Higher is good right?
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>>1746654
>Rolled 11 (1d12)
I have a good feeling about this.

>>1746659
>>1746660
>>1746650
>>1746651
So time to offer the debraining operation to the other amnesiac Super Mutants and ghouls as well?
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>>1746639
But we couldn't have made ZAX in one turn even with the boon. We still lack brains
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>>1746660
Who?
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may pass out for real this time, so possibly no turn till much later tomorrow night but you guys get a nat100 char
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>>1746666
>>1746660
>>1746559
He's the Cybran head scientist from Supreme Commander. The game where we're getting our super matter-to-energy and reverse tech from.
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>>1746666
>Who?
What this anon said >>1746671

>>1746670
>You guys get a nat100 char
Some great news, before going to bed.
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>>1746670
Now all we have to do is not cuck ourselves and not make him idle.
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>>1746670
Fucking nice

Sleep tight QM, your kindness will not be forgotten. The dice promise a fun thread tomorrow night
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>>1746673
>Now all we have to do is not cuck ourselves and not make him idle.
Now we just have too make sure he doesn't steal tech and sell it to the NCR. If the rumors are true.

>>1746670
Goodnight OP, this Nat 100 will make up for that Nat 1 rolled. Been a long time since a 100 been rolled.
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>>1746670
What a shame.

I also hope it means that debraining procedure for mutants is perfect, meaning we can de brain others if they agree. Maybe we will even get insight why supes lose much of their intelligence and find a way to cure that. It has probably something to do with their bodies and not their brains.
Maybe have tesla coils transmit high quality signals that their bodies automatically regain their previous intelligence once they get de brained.
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>>1746681
>Now we just have too make sure he doesn't steal tech and sell it to the NCR. If the rumors are true.
So give him an office and a secretary?

>Been a long time since a 100 been rolled.
I think we've been seeing more nat 100s than nat 1s recently, a bit of a shame.

>>1746682
>>1746629
By debraining them, we might also be able to cure the Nightkin insanity if the brains have perfect recall.
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>>1746684
Just give a office and a secretary to all the guys we defreeze and Nat 100 guy.

>>1746684
Well from the Nat 100 and Nat 1. We had a Nat 1 due to the bugs, Nat 1 with the Marked Men, and this Nat 100.

It's more one sided. Just that this Nat 1 wasn't for defend or attacking, just the power level of the Marked Men.

At least we now have a outpost in the Divide. That almost no one can go to. So a safeplace in the future for secret projects.
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>>1746691
>Just give a office and a secretary to all the guys we defreeze and Nat 100 guy.
Patrician.

>So a safeplace in the future for secret projects.
Now that you mention it, it'd be the perfect place for a field lab. No need to shuttle them back and forth for stuff.

>At least we now have a outpost in the Divide. That almost no one can go to.
Would be great for a black site.

Which reminds me, how are the Deathclaws we captured earlier doing? Are we going to raise them so we can get a Bestest Friend? Preferably one that can also speak.
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>>1746698
We have one death claw and eggs.

So we should have a personal assign to rising the death claws that hatch from the eggs. As the first thing they see should be the "Mother" we have in mind. To tame them, from attacking humans on sight. Later on we can make them smarter, using the same method as the ones in the quarry or making our method, improving it.

Maybe make implants for deathclaws. Find out how to debrain them. The type of deathclaws we have are the glowing ones I think, since they were in the Divide. So Rad suit is a must, when handling them.
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>>1746691
>Just give a office and a secretary to all the guys we defreeze and Nat 100 guy.

For our general too. We should ask them what they need, as everyone might have different requirements to improve their efficiency.
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>>1746749
>So we should have a personal assign to rising the death claws that hatch from the eggs. As the first thing they see should be the "Mother" we have in mind.
Be the Deathclaw's "Mother," like Best Friend? I don't think we have anyone else who has our beast-taming experience.
Maybe we could start training beast tamers?

>So Rad suit is a must, when handling them.
Have them play with the rest of our children in heavily armed and armored radsuits?

>>1746753
Indeed.
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>>1746753
Seems like we need a construct action just to improve efficiency with everyone that is important.

Isn't the secretary a robot able to do some *wink* *wink* service? Since I think that was build in with the secretary.

Also Agreed to your point
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>>1746756
>Be the Deathclaw's "Mother," like Best Friend?
I mean the one that feeds the death claws, the one who give them milk. That type of thing, just have it be a human face them see first. Something with nature and mothers it seems to work with monkeys and other animals.
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>>1746644
>You
[You sure you got this Auto-Doc? Remember, this is a different species than human. I want a separate tube used and for the most intense sterilization afterward. Just in case there is any lingering FEV, though I doubt it]

>Auto Doc
"Ain't not a thing. Should be easy enough. Let's get to it."

---

Super mutant brains turn out to be not so different from human brains. They are slightly larger, with a greenish hue.

>You
[Hello, Bradley's Brain. Can you hear me?]

>Bradley's Brain
"Yes. How curious. So this is what its like to be on the other side of the scalpel."

>Bradley
"You are my Brain then. Scalpel? So I was a doctor after all."

>Bradley's Brain
"Doctor. Secretary of Health. Chief Physician. That sort of thing.

>Doc Henry
"Wait a minute. 'Secretary of Health'. Not, Secretary of Health Bradley Anderson?"

>Bradley's Brain
"Indeed we are. We meet again Doctor Henry."

>Doc Henry
"By god. I thought we lost you to Mariposa."

>Bradley
"Wait. I should know Doctor Henry?"

>Doc Henry
"If what your brain is saying is true, you must have been, or are, Doctor Bradley Anderson. Secretary of Health of the United States and former chief scientist at Control Station ENCLAVE."

>Bradley's Brain
"'Former' huh. Who did they end up replacing me with."

>Doc Henry
"Doctor Scherber"

>Bradley's Brain
"What? They chose him of all people. . ."

>Bradley
"Wait. How can I be an enclave scientist. I worked for the Master's Army."

>Bradley's Brain
"Actually you're a bit confused there my meaty copatriot. No, we worked for that Melchior fellow after we both got trapped gathering the FEV sample for the Enclave. That parlour magician had you fooled into thinking you were part of the Master's army."

>Bradley
"This is a lot to take in. . ."

>Bradley's Brain
"You'll get used to it.

So I've heard the Oil Rig was blown up?"

>Doc Henry
"Yes. I wasn't there, but its common knowledge now. All hands lost. Including the President."

>Bradley's Brain
"Interesting. I dare say if we went by line of succession, that would make me the President no?"

>Doc Henry
"You know, I believe you're right."
----

>What do
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>>1746937
Do you want to be a president? Enclave is no more. While we do claim to be successors of the Enclave, we have a bit different nation and ideals compared before. Previous Enclave would have probably killed your mutant self on sight.

We would love a legitimate claim for Enclave succession, so we can convince other remnants to join our cause.
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>>1746937
Interesting....VERY interesting.

>>1746944
Ask these questions first.

Below is a legitimate way for us to become President.

>1. Ask Former Secretary of Health Henry to choose us as his Vice President. In the absence of a working Congress - this decision can be carried out by an Executive Order.
>2. He shall then resign the Presidency, making us the new President.
>3. We will then elevate him to our new VP.
>4. Document this entire process and send it to the remaining Enclave.

Presto, we are now the legitimate President of the US.
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>>1746937

God damn.

This is our IN to the Enclave remnant faction.

If they can verify that this IS bradley, by line of succession, this is their president whos orders they have to follow.

We can fully legitimise our successor state.
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>>1746937
"True as that may be, I'd point out that you aren't going to be president of much these days.

I am the Courier, the one who ordered this operation be performed and the leader of the state within which you reside. To be frank, you would give my nation immense knowledge and legitimacy from your position in the Enclave and from your personal experience. So I hope you would be willing to work with me."

>>1746949
The is brilliant.
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>>1746949

Legally he would have first be sworn in as president of the Enclave and this would require a judge.

We would have to contact the enclave first for a appointed UCMJ official. It can also be a time for them to verify that the Doctor is who he claims to be, by confirming his security code or what not.

We should bring in the Enclave remnant to be witness to this handover lest they cry foul and refuse the legitimate chain of command.
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With this addition to our science team we should ask him how he can help improve the people (cybernetics, school, propaganda, combat drugs ) and the nation in general. Also, as was mentioned, offices and secretaries. Depending on the person this could very well be in the crater itself. And, I suggest we use the boon on making the ZAX. Ask our brain where/who would be best and then just abduct and wipe the brains. No need for petty morality. Once we have the supercomputer put the 5 AI in it and further improve the nation. Mainly focus on bettering the replicator (QM stated we could get it a lot more efficient) and making new nuclear reactors. Focus on getting the tech to a level we can reliably use on a mass scale. Otherwise it will stay a nifty gizmo.
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>>1746992
Supporting this.

We don't have to rush anything - given the rightful law of succession, we are clearly in the right.

If the General respects the chain of command, tradition and true legitimacy, we just won over the Enclave remnant.
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>>1746998
Dont think it will be this easy. They wont just give over the Enclave to a mutant brain in a jar and its cyborg mutie overlord.
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>>1746949
>Bradley's Brain
"You know, I had anticipated you would ask something like this.

Have you ever heard the story of the Donkey in the Lion's skin?"

>You
[What's a Donkey and a Lion?]

>Bradley's Brain
"Nevermind. The point is using us as a 'Golden Ticket' to old world legitimacy may not be as straightforward as you think.

Do you honestly believe they would accept a brain in a jar, much less a Super Mutant, to be their President? That this would also magically waive away any other discrepancies between them and you and believe you me there are a number of them.

I imagine they would sooner elect the governments automated computer defense system to be president than I. And besides, I think my copatriot here has some feelings he'd like to discuss."

>Bradley
"I can remember none of this. Even though my Brain can. I want to find out why first before any of this."

>You
[You make a fair point. I suppose we could allow more neuro research into the Brain department.

But what do you suggest for legitimacy with the Enclave?]

>Bradley's Brain
"Getting them to talking terms first. I believe it would be appropriate for me to contact them over the general broadcast. Then perhaps I could verify our identity. From there its guesswork. Perhaps I might be able to offer my scientific insight as an incentive for them but that's no guarantee they will recognize me as their leader."
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>>1747024
"Its a start at least. On our part we will at least offer to provide some of our advances that they might be in a better position to defend themselves."

Finished goods basically, not the means for local production. Hexacrete might be the exception since they should be able to use it to quickly shore up their defences if needed.
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>>1747036
If we can get the ZAX online before contacting them, we can mention having a god damned supercomputer on our side.

That odd to interest them in an alliance at the very least.
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>>1747036
>>1747040
Supporting both of this
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>>1747040
I agree with this. Let's focus next turn on getting Zax online with using remaining actions to shore up our outpost in the Divide, while getting the Chinese forces online.
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>>1746553
So basically... fascism?
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>>1747140
Fascism is based around a inherent superiority of a particular group of people over the rest. Usually used as a justification for conquest and mistreatment of others.

In the proscribed example however, our people would objectively be better but we wouldn't be encouraging the mistreatment of others. Rather we would encourage them joining us and advancing to greater heights of ability.


Reminds me of Stelaris in a way: wiping out entire species because your own or another is better suited for the planet that they live on or the industry it provides.
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Also in regards to the LAER-securitrons described here >>1744066, I have a partial solution to the energy consumption, overheating, reliability and other such problems caused by the new weapon, until we can refine the design and make them a bit less unstable / expensive.

Each shot is 6 time stronger than the previous weapons, correct? Then logically speaking we can lower the fire-rate without losing damage caused. If we half the fire-rate then it should be a 300% increase in firepower per securitron while also reducing the energy problems in supplying both the weapon and it's maintenance / repair systems so we can probably get rid of the alien battery.


We can actually look to fixing the weapons problems and shit when we have the five AI's and the ZAX more generally online since we will have far better research abilities as well as experts in not only robotics generally, but robotic warfare in particular.
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>>1747140
Yeah, more or less. It'd basically be fascism's ultimate form, seeing as we could reliably guarantee that every citizen of our is worth several baseline humans. Besides, with the doors so wide open and the technology all there, it would be completely feasible to bestow this upliftment on the entirety of the wasteland.

>>1747036
Probably not a bad idea. I don't think we're clever enough to actually get all we could out of this, but at least having them be less butthurt would be a good idea.
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>>1747024
"Well, it worth a shot.

Say, Bradley, do you think you can help figuring out cures for super mutants? I think you'd be most intimate with that field of research"
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>>1747201
This whole evemt confirms a very important thing- that inside the supermutant brains, despite not being able to remember, they still have their memories, so the cure should be able to revert them to who they were pre-FEV, with their memories.
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>>1747200
Well seeing as this guy might let us cure supermutants far easier, I think they'd be willing to at least hear us out a bit more. Especially if we were to, say, give them a LAER rifle or two to test out. Maybe even give them some spare parts for their verti-bird and shit.

If we can convince them we are worth maintaining communications with, by supply stuff they are going to struggle to get otherwise, we can convince them to join us later once we really start expanding and shit.


Still I'd like to talk to the Chinese a little and see if we can't unify with them completely. Seeing as we've pretty much got "robot communism" as our whole thing (lets face it a civilian economy might never develop and we'd take control of more or less any critical or major industry like farming, manufacturing and so on.) with a little bit of post-scarcity society. I think the benefits of both our peoples acting as one would be greater than the potential penalties longer term.

>>1747214
That is very true.
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>>1747218
I think we can definitely get the enclave into the fold, don't get me wrong. I'm just not totally sure we can get them to join too soon.

In regards to the Chinese, I think we could probably get them to unify. Biggest issue would be selling the whole "nation of immigrants" bit of America, and seeing how we could make sure their council of elders maintained some similarly powerful station, so that they didn't whine too much. If we get close to fucking up though, i think we need to leave off. can't risk the already semi-fanatical devotion we've got from them.
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>>1747218
We've been ignoring the Chinese. We need to spend time trying to peacefully integrate them.

In game mechanics they are like vassals, which we need to spend influence/culture points or money over long period of time to integrate
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>>1747214
Perhaps it is something as simple as the massive body taking too much resources that the brain goes on low power mode?
Their entire body undergoes massive changes while the brain stays the same.

We could develop a simple augmented, like an artificial gland somewhere in the body which makes sure that the brain gets what it needs and works at full capacity.
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>>1747218

I wonder what resources the Enclave remnants even have at this point.
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>>1747275
Seeing as their whole thing was "muh purity" and "muh ancient tech", there's almost certainly nothing they have that we don't or can't have very soon. More than likely, their greatest asset will be the experience to use them more effectively, and the training and know-how to do lots of small things very very well.

Thankfully, this will all be rendered nearly moot once we get the Zax running and have the five personalities go into overdrive.
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>>1747275
Alot. They came back from the blink 3 times and before fallout4 fucked lore. They still had outposts and bases across the commonwealths
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>>1747024
"Do you know of any Enclave safe houses and stashes which could still be around?"
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>>1747289
I think we should try to work with them, but I don't think they are bringing a lot to the table. If we are going to bend our principles for anyone, it should be the Midwestern BoS.

However, I think once we get the ZAX and the metal from The Divide, we're not really going to need anyone.
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>>1747305
True, as a high level government figure, he would have classified knowledge he can share with us.
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>>1747311
I agree. Midwestern BoS we can probably sway by doing research on how to cure ghouls and assorted mutants, since their leader actually seems reasonable for once. Enclave we should see if we can force to submit, or see if we can't convince them that joining us is the only chance they've got (which is certain, no matter who wins the struggle in the southwest)
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>>1747333

I'd almost want to do some recon on the Enclave, maybe we can have the spy AI spend some time on that once we get the ZAX going. I think our approach to them should be something along the lines of "we're the best hope for a returned America, but you're going to have to deal with some impurity."

General Barnaky seems incredibly reasonable, especially for a BoS member. Long term I have some concerns, but he hates the MLA who are a threat to us.
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>>1747302
How did fo4 lore fuck up enclave lore?
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>>1747036
>Bradley's Brain
"If you were a weaker faction, I'd be concerned about displays of valuable technology. If the Enclave wants, the Enclave gets. But you guys have some stuff that would make even Navarro think twice.

Then it's a matter if they want what you're offering."

>>1747201
>Bradley
"Hmmm, what do I know uh. . .Brain."

>Bradley's Brain
"I don't think the 'Cure's' for mutation that the Enclave were experimenting are the kind you or I would want to delve in.

Tell me Doctor Henry, did they ever finish the project?"

>Henry
"I left before finding out. But I heard they got close.

What he's referring to is a 'cure' for mutation involving the FEV specifically killing anyone and everyone not deemed a pure human. Had they succeeded the death toll on the wasteland would be enormous."

>Bradley Brain
"Henry, if I remember you were working on an actual cure for mutation yes? How did that go."

>Henry
"Moment you were gone Schreber cut off my funding. The idea wasn't ever that popular and you know it."

>You
[What are you referring to]

>Henry
"Was a time I thought the FEV mutation could be reversed. First from supermutants back to normal humans, and then perhaps minute FEV mutations back to baseline human.

Never got off the ground. I had developed a mutagenic serum I thought might work, but whoever it was tested on just killed them. In that regard the Enclave would have called it a success."

>Bradley
"Mhm. You know these facilities are impressive. Have you thought about continuing your projects."

>Henry
"Not all of us are immortal. I reckon you haven't aged a day just like all the other supermutants. I don't know how many years I have left, if that. I prefer to start projects I know I can finish. And I'm not entirely convinced on living on as a disembodied brain.

If I had some assurance of time perhaps. . ."

>Bradley
"I have some other skills which may prove handy to yourself as well Courier. Deathclaw research for instance. And some surgical knowledge.

I played a part in the creation of Frank Horrigan. Fantastic specimen, horrible person."

>Henry
"Enclave valued velour over chivalry. Else we'd just be the Brotherhood."
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>>1747396
Some of that should read Bradleys Brain*
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>>1747396
Fuck me, this solves literally all of our problems.

IF, and only IF we can avoid any major cock-ups from here on out, we can finally combine the brotherhood and the enclave's strengths, and banish their drawbacks entirely. With that, not even the nazi wet dream of a functional NCR can stop us, and Caesar's bullshit will be trivial to crush (barring actual divine intervention, which is apparently very possible OOC)
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>>1747396
Well, I do plan to continue bioengineering with or without the use of FEV and cyber engineering to improve humans. I want also improve their longevity. I estimate that as I am right now, I could live to be 200 years old. I want to spread such heights of human condition to everyone, break human limits and go beyond them.
But, I want humans to look like humans, maybe taller and bigger than now but humans nonetheless.
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>>1747396
Either way, you are a welcome addition to our nation. Your medical and scientific knowledge will be invaluable.

Maybe we could convince more supermutants to debrain.
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>>1747411
>Your Brain
"I wouldn't put your hopes up on that so far.

You're about as Mutated as a Super Mutant or this Horrigan fellow. I'd say Marcus is closer to baseline human than you.

You just happen to have the right set of mutations that keep you looking handsome enough."
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>>1747396
Man, this is great. Once we get FEV lab ready, we will have unity, Henry and Bradley with his brain to work on fev research.
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>>1747403

Will everyone want to be cured of their FEV mutations? I think Unity's people might disagree with that. Still, this is outstanding news and we need to get that FEV lab going once the ZAX is built and the Divide secured.
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>>1747426
Probably not, but there's no harm in having the option out there for those who do.
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>>1747423
Motherfucker, how did this even happen?

Okay, I think it is confirmed that our tribe wasn't even a tribe. Probably some human vat growth facility with implanted memories. I wonder if ncr president comes from there too.
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Op can you answer this question >>1747305
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>>1747426
I don't think the BoS in particular will actually give too much of a fuck about mutations once they do nothing but bolster humanity. Maybe "cured" isn't the right word, seeing as we don't really want that. We want to improve the bioengineering, and actually have something like the FEV basically just improve humans overall. Change what it means to be human, rather than just keep everyone baseline.

It'll be a tough sell initially, but when they see proof of concept in our entire little nation being full of outright superior humans, I think that we should be able to convince them as long as we aren't too arrogant. We need to be sure that they know we're extending the hand to all humans and abhumans, not just declaring our own superiority.

With regard to Unity, I'm sure they wouldn't mind not looking like undercooked pastrami all the time. If we can find a way for them to keep their psychic link to each other, I think they'd be fine with things then. The example Unity herself and Sam have set are excellent bases to work from, I think.
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>>1747396
How hard would it be to recreate Horrigan? Would he be sane? Would he need to be dumb?

What sort of surgeries is Bradley versed in? If we give him a deathclaw, can he make a control harness for it? Maybe something more advanced/subdermal?
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>>1747436
>oof of concept in our entire little nation being full of outright superior humans, I think that we should be able to convince them as long as we aren't too arrogant. We need to be sure that they know we're extending the hand to all humans and abhumans, not just declaring our own superiority.

This makes a lot of sense and I think this should be our approach to the BoS.

I'm beginning to think we really can get a unified alliance of Us, the Enclave, and the BoS. The next issue is the Brotherhood's desire to control technology, but since we have most of the research and advanced tech under government control we should be OK with that.
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>>1747453
Well they don't want tech in the hands of "stupid ignorant wastelanders" so if we show that we're educating our people they may be more understanding.
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>>1747474

Considering we are moving to have a fully educated population, this could work.
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>>1747431
>Motherfucker, how did this even happen?
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35979/?
>Brain
"A lifespans worth of bad decisions and dangerous exploits beyond even my count.

One of the benefits of being in this jar is that the roots of the bonsai tree trying to grow on your head doesn't itch me any more."

>>1747438
>Bradley's Brain
"We'd need an FEV lab and a sample of FEV.

And expendable test subjects. No other way to go about it unfortunately."
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>>1747305
>Bradley's Brain
"That was a bit above my paygrade. I do know some proper calling codes for higher level authority, at least that given to me as a member of the Cabinet.

Hmmm. Apart from Navarro, the only other major Enclave bases I can think of would be those of the east coast like Washington DC. There may have been one in Chicago as well."
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>>1747482
Wait, we have a tree in our head? Is that something we should deal with?
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>>1747496
You shave the stem off and dab a tiny bit of herbicide every so many months. Hardly notice its there really.

It only gets big if you let it so.
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Catching up once again from my short break.


>>1747225
>I think we can definitely get the enclave into the fold, don't get me wrong. I'm just not totally sure we can get them to join too soon.
That is very true which is why I want to make them value us a trade partner and a source of resources / equipment. We can get them integrated later but maintaining communications is vital.


As to the Chinese, we could debrain their elders and thus add them directly to our collective mass of brains. Throw in some things like Chinese being recognised as a official language of the nation (forming a diarchy of English and Chinese) and being taught in schools along with the Chinese laws becoming the basis for our own legal system (within reason, it'll save time later and a society that actually manages to maintain communism efficiently? Their laws are either the strictest and most punishing or the best in general but a good basis for our dictatorial and all-seeing government to learn from).

>>1747262
>We've been ignoring the Chinese. We need to spend time trying to peacefully integrate them.
Agreed.

>In game mechanics they are like vassals, which we need to spend influence/culture points or money over long period of time to integrate
Yeah.

>>1747275
>I wonder what resources the Enclave remnants even have at this point.
At least a squad of PA and a Vertibird. Almost certainly more than that since they talked about there being more of them and we know they had some scientists / engineers before the BOS made them move from their last place of residence.

At the very least the additional pre-war level educated people and military experts would help refine our society. Plus any technical documents they bring would be excellent, since they'd have the cutting edge of pre-war technology and would certainly be able to advance us in some areas.

>>1747396
Jesus this guy will be useful.

>>1747423
Baseline human is a bit of a misnomer at the this point and anyhow, it's a bit of a Theseus's ship argument. We look, act and are in most ways human but better. Thus we are human (but better).

>>1747431
Eh, there are such facilities in the Fallout universe but the technology was quite underdeveloped, so they'd be relying on random mutation.

>>1747436
Yeah I have to agree with you on most of this.

>>1747453
The BOS's concern for technology is it's misuse by people who don't understand the threat it represents. So they may be fine with us doing this shit but they will keep a close eye and an eager trigger pointed at us.

>>1747482
We should get that tree removed.

>We'd need an FEV lab and a sample of FEV.
Both can be done. The FEV lab we can build off of the cloning place and the FEV itself can come from Unity, the Enclave, a supermutant in theory or the Institute if we ever contact them.

>And expendable test subjects. No other way to go about it unfortunately."
We can get wastelanders from the Legion while we use their brains for the ZAX and shit.
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Also we need to get some NCR money. Literally if we can get a singular dollar I have a terribly brilliant idea to wreck their economy / currency AND get resources at the same time.
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>>1747534
replicating their dollar would result in a ton of bills with the same ID code. THey could just outlaw whatever bills have that code.
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>>1747534

Go on man don't keep us in the dark
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>>1747539
Well the Anon above you (>>1747538) worked it out and pretty quickly.


I would point out to him however, they'd need to figure out that there was something wrong with the Dollars we are giving them and if they raise any questions, we just point out that we'd been working with them back in NV and thus have a shit ton of their money.

Plus we can get a new dollar every time they do that and continue the process.
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So what are we doing next turn? Kidnapping Legionaries in Utah, building the ZAX and constructing a solar farm/tower right?
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>>1747575
Spending the boon might make kidnapping the legionnaires necessary. So we should hold off on that until needed.
so maybe something like:


Civ-expand school
Construct-ZAX with boon
military- continue divide push
research-Hazmat combat armour.
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>>1747598
*kidnapping the legionnaires UNnecessary
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>>1747598
Looks good to me. We just need to remember to really pour research into FEV memes soon though, for using Bradley's brain as well as keeping Unity's people from chimping out
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>>1747598
I don't know, unless the BOON allows us to somehow trip over extra brains on the floor i'd rather kidnap some Legionnaires.
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>>1747604
Well normally, without the boon, we need brains, so spending a boon should make things different.

>>1747600
Need to clean up and build the FEV lab first, so we could use the Hzmat armour to suit up clean up crew.
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>>1747617
>Well normally, without the boon, we need brains, so spending a boon should make things different.
Did QM say that? Where?
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>>1747617
Why waste the boon on brains? we can gather them with some abducting with the ufo?
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Here is my proposed plan for next turn:

>HERO
Give Riddick the Scoutship and tell him to kidnap Legionaries from beyond NV for brain harvesting / scrubbing and put their bodies into cold storage for when we do FEV work.

Meanwhile we should continue educating our daughter. The quicker she's a fully trained mini-courier and capable of being deployed to fight alongside us or in other places, the better.

>CIVILIAN
Construct more Pan-construction robots.

>CONSTRUCTION
Construct the ZAX.

>RESEARCH
Divide / Cloud "hazard" combat armour for humans


>>1747617
No reason to leave it to chance however and even if it turns out we have surplus brains, I can think of a few good uses for them.

>>1747627
He is assuming.
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>>1747638
>Give Riddick the Scoutship and tell him to kidnap Legionaries from beyond NV for brain harvesting / scrubbing and put their bodies into cold storage for when we do FEV work.
Utah is the perfect place.
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>>1747638
Supporting
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>>1747634
It's not about maybe finding brains with the Boon, but maybe making them not neccessary or something. But we don't know, so we should see what we need after the fact instead of gathering resources we might not need.
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>>1747638
Add something for writing with the hero action and we need to do something with the seathclaw egga
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>>1747638
Also you aren't building the god damn solar farm, how many times do i have to tell you anons that becoming resource independent should be our first priority?
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>>1747646
But brains are so easy to come by, it would be a waste of a good boon if we can just use one action to gather them
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>>1747655
But brains is suggesting using the boon, and QM has been hinting at that, so we should do so.
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>>1747638
Forgot:

Burn the general boon for the ZAX.


Passive robot construction: reprocessing of our pre-existing construction robots into basic materials and then into Pan-constructors.

That or a regular Pan-constructors production action if the above provides no benefits.

>>1747640
The Legion isn't in Utah for the most part and even if they were the possibility of the Scoutship getting hit by the MLA again is too high.

>>1747646
That is a waste of time and resources on a dead end concept. We NEED brains for advanced computers, especially if we want the AIs. Deal with it.

>>1747647
We can throw that in when OP returns and I'd point out the Deathclaw eggs ain't hatching soon and even if they were we'd need a little while to get ready.

>>1747649
Might that be because we have a limited number of actions and everything there is a higher priority? Pan's get us another construction action per turn, the research is needed for fighting Elijah and for the Divide if we want our troops or the Chinese helping, ZAX makes everything more efficient and gets 5 AI's up and running.
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>>1747658
Shouldnt we use the boon for the rest of the ZAX? I definitely do want to use the boon on the ZAX but not on something that is easily aquirable
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>>1747658
What he and the rest of us are saying is that the Boon will make the ZAX cheap in regards to raw resources, not make it so we don't need any brains to produce it / make it work.
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>>1747649
We are power independant already, so the solar farm doesn't really help in that regard.
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>>1747668
>Might that be because we have a limited number of actions and everything there is a higher priority?
>Pan-construction bots
>A higher priority.
We can't even use them yet since we don't have a stable source of metals, and for some reason you want to waste what metals we do have on building them!
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>>1747671
>>1747672
I'm saying use the BOON on the ZAX, but wait to see what the booned zax needs before gathering things up.
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>>1747674
The solar farm is not for being power independent, it's so we can generate more Fissile material which we can convert to metal, by getting more power we get fissile-per-turn.
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>>1747675
Mate we have a stable source of metal between the Divide, the replicators, the NCR, the MLA and in fact Utah in general.

Also we can build things that don't involve metal you know.

>>1747678
Mate the Boon-ZAX ain't going to be any different from the non-boon ZAX in terms of abilities or design. It's just not going to take anywhere near as long (or as much) to produce it and thus will still need brains.

>>1747682
Why you bother to include the middle stage makes no sense to me. We can directly turn dirt to metal with enough power and the right replicator now.
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>>1747691
>Mate we have a stable source of metal between the Divide, the replicators, the NCR, the MLA and in fact Utah in general.
No we don't, we don't have half of those things for metal, only the Divide which isn't reliable until we secure it(And that will take time( and the NCR which we don't want to help.
>Why you bother to include the middle stage makes no sense to me. We can directly turn dirt to metal with enough power and the right replicator now.
I had a discussion about this already with QM last thread, he said we need more power.
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>>1747702
>No we don't, we don't have half of those things for metal, only the Divide which isn't reliable until we secure it(And that will take time( and the NCR which we don't want to help.
The Divide still has large chunks of metal sitting out in the open in it and the Marked men have ceased their patrols. Admittedly much of the material has been shifted inside the city but as you said, we plan on taking it but I think it will take far less time than you expect.

As to the NCR, review my counterfeiting plan and realise we can extract resources from them without helping them. Even ignoring that the simple fact is that we can get resources from them while providing minimal help to them, such a small amount that we may counter in turn with trade to the MLA with a mere percentage of the resources that were given by the NCR.

Then there is Utah in general which I would point out we can gather resources from with minimal investment. Bio-fuel, ore, hydroelectricity, population, MLA trade (which could offer any material we want) and more.

>I had a discussion about this already with QM last thread, he said we need more power.
The only remarks about it by him were in relation to producing enough fissile material to create a breeder reactor. I don't doubt you did but I would like a link or something please to prove it since producing steel is far easier than producing uranium or thorium or such other fissionable material.
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>>1747714
>The Divide still has large chunks of metal sitting out in the open in it and the Marked men have ceased their patrols. Admittedly much of the material has been shifted inside the city but as you said, we plan on taking it but I think it will take far less time than you expect.
So it's a matter of opinion now, regardless i still believe we should build more solar farms/towers especially since the Divide won't provide us resources forever.
>Then there is Utah in general which I would point out we can gather resources from with minimal investment. Bio-fuel, ore, hydroelectricity, population, MLA trade (which could offer any material we want) and more.
We don't even have an outpost in Utah yet, don't assume it's resources are already ours.
>The only remarks about it by him were in relation to producing enough fissile material to create a breeder reactor. I don't doubt you did but I would like a link or something please to prove it since producing steel is far easier than producing uranium or thorium or such other fissionable material.
>>1741230
>Currently, as of right now, you can produce fissile material but power is going to be a major factor in how much.
>>1741240
>So currently our 10% power could produce a grain of plutonium?
>>1741249
>You have enough Fissile Material to produce steel for the actions given.
>Something like that yes. Eventually those grains build up enough to fill microfusion cells. Then enough of those build up enough to fill a mini-nuke.
>Increasing your poweroutput OR increasing your power storage capabilities to allow for overcharged to be stored will surely increase the amount you can make.
>>1741500
>More Power = More Fissile Material and/or less time to make it.

>Things that increase available power.
-Building more powerplants (of any type)
-Building bigger batteries, storage
-Finding, producing more fuel
-Reducing our current power costs
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>>1747746
>So it's a matter of opinion now
Not in the slightest.

>regardless i still believe we should build more solar farms/towers especially since the Divide won't provide us resources forever.
Well yeah but you were arguing we should do it immediately rather than things that benefit us in the longer term.

>We don't even have an outpost in Utah yet, don't assume it's resources are already ours.
To be fair we could easily begin extraction of resources from Utah given a turn or two's labour and can extract some of it's resources as of this moment in time thanks to our allies in the region.


As to all those things you quoted from last thread, literally all of them are about fissile material which is a far more energy intense procedure as far as we can tell / OP has said. Still we can get his word when he gets back on how long it would take 10% of our power to produce a 1000 kg of iron for us to refine into steel.

I'd also point out that the ZAX is going to make replication a more efficient process by OP's own word.
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>>1747761
>Not in the slightest.
I think taking over the Divide will take a long time, you think it will take a short time, a difference in opinion.
>To be fair we could easily begin extraction of resources from Utah given a turn or two's labour and can extract some of it's resources as of this moment in time thanks to our allies in the region.
What allies? and how do we transport the resources to Big MT?
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Burn the boon for the ZAX, it's easily the most efficient use of it right now
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>>1747638
Supporting this with some slight tweaks

>HERO
- Give Riddick the Scoutship and tell him to kidnap Legionaries from beyond NV for brain harvesting / scrubbing and put their bodies into cold storage for when we do FEV work.
- We continue educating our daughter. The quicker she's a fully trained mini-courier and capable of being deployed to fight alongside us or in other places, the better.
- Keep adding to our book as per this >>1746553

>CIVILIAN
Convert all of our replicators to the version with nuclear alchemy.

>CONSTRUCTION
Build the ZAX in a secure location at BigMT using a BOON.

>RESEARCH
Divide / Cloud "hazard" suits/combat armour for humans
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>>1747799
Still doesn't have >build more powerpalnts.
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>>1747775
Taking over the Divide to provide metallic supplies? Short term.

Taking over the city in the Divide? Medium term.

Taking over the entirety of the Divide (including the Tunneller areas)? Long term if not out of scope of quest.

>What allies?
New Canaanites and the tribals under Joshua.

>how do we transport the resources to Big MT?
Either the teleport pads we have developed from alien technology or the Scoutship since they could easily be stored within or attached to the outside or a attached cargo box like we did with our medical staff we lent them. That or we finally design a cargo-transport and build one of those.

>>1747775
Very true.

>>1747799
>Convert all of our replicators to the version with nuclear alchemy.
I can see the benefits of this but I would point out we would struggle to power them all and shit. Still, I can live with such a modification.
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>>1747799
What passive robots would we be building? A passive robot factory, makes 20 MK Securitron that much we know.
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>>1747812
Depends if we have the metal for passive construction...

That turn list also forgot a MILITARY action, my bad.
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>>1747809
>Taking over the Divide to provide metallic supplies? Short term.
>Taking over the city in the Divide? Medium term.
The city is where the metal is, so there's no short term.
>New Canaanites and the tribals under Joshua.
We don't know if the New Cannans will accept mining for us but it's worth a try. Joshua tribals are a no go, he has been very clear about that.
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>>1747812
>>1747819
Should build pan-constructors. Enough of them and we get an additional construction action.

>>1747821
>The city is where the metal is, so there's no short term.
And you are objectively wrong!

It was stated in an OP post that all that remained outside of the city were chunks of metal too large to be easily transported into the city but definitely able to be harvested.

>We don't know if the New Cannans will accept mining for us but it's worth a try. Joshua tribals are a no go, he has been very clear about that.
Mining in Zion? Out of the question. Mining in the rest of the state? Okay if done in a low damage manner which we can easily achieve.

Would also point out that resources in the region exist for creation of bio-fuels, hydroelectric dams and other potential sources of power that could be used to power a mass-replication system for metals.

Not to mention other benefits like plentiful grazing space for Brahmin and cows. Could then harvest them for hide, jet, meat and bone to sell to the MLA for metal, slaves, technological samples, fissile and other materials.
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>>1747842
>It was stated in an OP post that all that remained outside of the city were chunks of metal too large to be easily transported into the city but definitely able to be harvested.
Oh shit you're right!
Oh shit why haven't we been harvesting them with our Omni-Constructor!
>>1747799
Here's what our Military action should be.
>Use the omni-constructor with a number of escort bots to harvest the chunks of metal outside the City.
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>>1747854
>>1747854
>Oh shit why haven't we been harvesting them with our Omni-Constructor!
Because anons be anons and forget shit and ignore shit and fail to fulfil even basic logic sometimes.

I'd also point out we could use far more than just the Omni-constructor for the purposes of harvesting these chunks of scrap. We have 5 (10?) Builder-scavenger securitron Hazards in the Divide already. Not to mention all of our Chinese trucks for transporting the scrap or our construction robots to or from the Divide.

However the Omni-constructor is probably too slow by itself and too large for a truck to make it to the Divide anytime soon.
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>>1747878
The Omni-constructor is in the Divide already, it went there alongside the rest of our troops so it should be adequately fast.
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>>1747799
Some slight tweaks

>HERO
- Give Riddick the Scoutship and tell him to kidnap Legionaries from beyond NV for brain harvesting / scrubbing and put their bodies into cold storage for when we do FEV work.
- We continue educating our daughter. The quicker she's a fully trained mini-courier and capable of being deployed to fight alongside us or in other places, the better.
- Keep adding to our book as per this >>1746553 #

>CIVILIAN
Convert all of our replicators to the version with nuclear alchemy.

>CONSTRUCTION
Build the ZAX in a secure location at BigMT using a BOON.

>MILITARY
Task our General to secure the Divide, starting with the outskirts

>RESEARCH
Divide / Cloud "hazard" suits/combat armour for humans

>PASSIVE ROBOTS
If enough metal, then build pan-constructors
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>>1747899
I would like to request the addition to the military action of having our Omni-constructor, as well as any other salvaging or construction assets present or able to move there within the scope of the turn that we have to spare, begin harvesting of the large metal chunks outside of the Divide city.

These are to be turned either into more defences / robots in the Divide (construction robots can make robots) or carted back to Big Mt on the Chinese supply trucks for other uses like in our factory.
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>>1747899
can't research hazmat armour and have 4 other actions.

And the nuclear alchemy is a new building, not an upgrade to the existing replicators.
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>>1747937
Actually it is a new version of the existing replicators that they may be upgraded to.
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>>1747940
from >>1740614
>I have already designed some basic blueprints for a small, medium, and even large scaled device but due to anticipated power consumption we will likely mostly be able to pull off the small scale one for now.
It's a new thing we have to build. It's not just modifying the old replicators.
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>>1747975
Seeing as the underlying technology is the same, they can be modified to do it.


Anyhow, you can't state that for certain without asking OP.
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Let's calculate our expenditures for the month.

20 LAER bots
3 new Chin Tonks
Rebar for Forward defenses
Food for Napalm, Fuel to bring the Hexcrete
Water to pour in the Hexcrete (normally no loss for small buildings but Kreger requested significant forward fortifications)

>>>>>Food: Low (Rising) [CAP: Average]
Passive Booze Ration: Low (higher for soldiers)
>>>>>Water: Below Average (Rising) [CAP: Average]
>>>>>Medicine: Above Average (Stable)
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Exhausted) Fissile (Plentiful)
Scrap Wood (tiny)
Special Electronics (---) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (---) [Falling] Alien Tech Scraps (low) Hexcrete Bags (Above Average)
Plant Material (Tiny)
Trona Minerals (Low)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low) Ethanol (uses Food)
>>>>>Total Pop: 252 Humans (and companions) +55 Infants +40 Mutants/Nightkin, 2 Ghoul
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
(Mercenary) - Moderate
-Energy Firearms
(Human Plasma/Laser) - Below Average
(Alien) - Below Average
(Chinese Alien-Jurry Rigged) - Below Average
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniforms:
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Armor)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Big Rifles)
(35 Dr. Mobius Scrubs + Dr. Mobius Glasses)
>>
>OUTPOSTS<
--CHINA RANCH--
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV. 5 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower.
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

!NEW!
--TRONA---
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MKV 5 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower. Highway to BigMT
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

---NEWBERRY SPRINGS---
++BigMT Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 25 Securitrons MK5 5 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
>>>>> Infrastructure: Houses. Lake. Hemp Farm (Small). Banana Yucata (Medium) Spice Farm (tiny). Water Pump to BigMT. Electrical Wires to BigMT
>>>>> Power: Borrowed from BIgMT.
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. *Nat100* Robot Defenses.
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other: Omni-Agronator!

---THE TWIN MINES (West+South)---
>>>>>Military: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Railroads. Open Pit Quarry.
>>>>>Defenses: Mountain
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other:

NEW!
---Divide Forward Outpost---
>>>>>Military: (1st Robot Army)
>>>>> Infrastructure: Tiny Steel Barracks
>>>>>Defenses: Raised Rocky Ground. Basic Hexcrete/Steel Walls. Sandbags. Vehicle Dug Ins.
>>>>>Animals: 1 Deathclaw
>>>>>Other: 1 Deathclaw Egg
>>
>>1748363
What's a Chin tonk?
>>
>>1748404
The chinese tanks the Bawang and the Tong's.
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>>1748410
Ah, the two Longs and the artillery piece
>>
ALERT!
Patriotism has improved. This follows years of military success, peaceful and good living conditions, and efforts to increase nationalism.

---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Above Average (Stable)
Permanent:
Patriotism (Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
Military Pride (Below Moderate)
>>>>>Current Pop:
31 Human
20 Infants
1 Ghoul
>>>>>Garrison:
5 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
20 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick, Dean Domino, Couripor, Mary-Jo Casey, Cain
+1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
+10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
+10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
+33 Securitrons MKV
+20 LAER securitrons
+60 Small Flyer Repairbots
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
+50 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital. 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation.) The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Boom Town Shooting Course Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Chemical Mill (Small)
Concrete Military HQ/Barracks + Intelligence Center - James Bond. General Kreger.
Magneto Hydraulics Plant Robotics Facility
Cass' Multipurpose Ethanol/Alcohol Distillery (Tiny)
X-12 Biological Research Plant (Small)
Automated Hexcrete Plant (Small)
Securitron Deconstructino Plant / General Robotics Research Facility (Small)
X-13 Research Factility / Medical VR University (Small)
X-2 Antennae Transmitter Array - Mr. New Vegas. Ms. New Washington
Doppler Radar
Large Scale Replicator
AUTOMATED ROBOT FACTORY
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few)
Watch Towers. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 1 Giant Crane (Ruined) 1 Alien Scoutship (INTACT). 1 Long Travel RV. 1 bulletproof limosine.
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+Jacob Miles
+Tony Gam
+Janith Kindergarten
+Dr. Bradley's Brain
+20 Researchers (Followers of the Apocalypse)
+14 Hubologists
+10 Experienced Combat Medics/Researchers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans} {Augmented!}
+45 Assorted Research Robots (normal)
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)
>>
>---NEW WASHINGTON---
>>>>>>Morale: Average
>Permanent: Patriotism (Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>>Current Pop:
>203 Human
>35 Infants
>+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin

>>>>>>Garrison:
>1 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel
>+10 Mr. Orderly Robots
>+2 Experienced Higher Officers (Urban Veteran) [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veterans} {Augmented!}
40 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats” (Various)
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
+156 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot
+(Plentiful) Spy-Eye Bots

Squads:
>General Infantry Squad: (6 Regular Infantry, 1 Experienced Soldier "NCO", 1 Trained Regular Officer)
>Traits:[OW American Infantry Armor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veteran Leaders}{Veteran Infantry} {Augmented!}
8 Squads [8/8]

>Garrison Infantry Squad: (Assorted infantry)
>Traits:[OW American Infantry Armor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser){Veteran} {Augmented!}
2 Squads [8/8] [7/7]

>1 Command Platoon:
>Traits:[OW American Infantry Armor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veteran Leaders}{Veteran Infantry} {Augmented!} **Command Unit**
+1 TACT bot {Combat Veteran}
+2 Experienced Higher Officers (Urban Veteran)
+8 Experienced Regular Infantry
+5 Mr. Orderly Robots
+Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS

>>>>>Prisoner: None
1 Presidental Manor
100 Hexcrete Hex Houses (Indoor plumbing/Shower, electricity)
Asphault Roads. Sewer System. Night Lamps.
Desert Landscaping
Spring Well. Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Concrete School House (Tiny)
Glass Mill (Small)
Public Washing Machines.
Water Treatment/Fertilizer Plant
(Small) Bar + Cafeteria + Kitchen + Janith's Equipment
Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Fuel Semi Truck, 7 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Mining Specialized) Jacob Mile's Mr. Fix-It Frame. 5 Chinese Supply Trucks
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles. Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+34 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+9 Baby Brahmin
+30 Mr. Howdy's Farming Robots

>con't
>>
>HERO
- Give Riddick the Scoutship and tell him to kidnap Legionaries from beyond NV for brain harvesting / scrubbing (For the ZAX) and put their bodies into cold storage for when we do FEV work.
- We continue educating our daughter. The quicker she's a fully trained mini-courier and capable of being deployed to fight alongside us or in other places, the better.
-Talk to our people and get a feeling for what they need most in life / what they want us to get them next.
- Keep adding to our book as per this >>1746553

>CONSTRUCTION
Build the ZAX in a secure location at BigMT using a BOON.

>MILITARY
Ask Kreger if he needs anything before he feels comfortable beginning fairly light attacks on the enemy.

Also have all our construction / salvaging robots start taking apart those large chunks of metal outside of the Divide city, to be transported back to Big mt or processed in the Divide into new combat robots since that is something they can do.

>RESEARCH
Divide / Cloud "hazard" suits/combat armour for humans.

Passive robotics construction: Pan-constructors.
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>>1748614
Our scrap metal is exhausted.
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"Hello folks, this is Ms. New Washington bringing to you the greatest hits of New America. Here's a little piece by our very own Dean Domino and the Unity orchestra."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_lYlOLfAQA"

Riddick with Bounty PA
Cain with BoS PA
The Devils Brigade
Hazel with Bounty Hunter PA
AXE MAN with PA
Ed-e

88 Securitrons MKV
10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
156 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot
1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
1 Pan Contructor Squad
60 Small Flyer Repairbots
25 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
10 Heavy

Chinese Allies:
1 Artillery Platoon (1T)
1 Bawang Platoon (1T)
1 Flame Platoon (2T)

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>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 110
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>>1748642
Which is why I am getting metal from the Divide brought back. Worst comes to worst, we can make use of our (Plentiful) fissile material to make some steel.
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>>1748614
Supporting
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>>1748614
supporting. Though the bodies probably won't be of any use.
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>1748614
Supporting
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>>1748660
Eh, we need some bodies for the research into wastelanders to "pure" humans or into genetic enhancements and shit. So these'll do.
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>>1748614
Roll me 2 more 1d100s
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>>1748665
>That roll
Well this is going to be a productive turn...
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>>1748679
here's one >>1748665
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>1748679
Dont goof up dice
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>1748679
perfectly average.
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>>1748665
>>1748693
I honestly can't remember if OP does best of rolls / best of three but looking at what we'd be getting if he did, I am hopeful...
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>>1748705
He does best of three. Also take the Nat 1s and Nat 100s, when it push the limit of rolls. But we're going to have a Great 97 roll for this turn.
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>>1748705
He does best of 3.
We have the 97.
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>>1748614
>>1748720
>>1748721
It looks like things are looking up, especially with a high roll combined with a boon.

>>1748650
What are our radio stations doing? What's the program for each one?
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>>1748614
Excellent ideas, supporting.
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>>1748614
>>1748679
>>1748744
Oh right. Support.
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So I was wondering, what do you guys think of changing all of our securitrons over to the LAER model?

Although more expensive and generally slower, their firepower is much greater and I think with minimal investment significant improvements could be made to their new weapons, improving reliability and reducing energy consumption.

For example, a short term solution I outlined >>1747189 was to lower their fire-rate partly, so that they consumed less energy thanks to overall less shots and less strain on the weapon. Although this would merely be a solution to me while we work on making the weapon better in general.
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>>1748833
No real reason to go all out on rehauling them, should probably take things slowly.
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>>1748833
Also anon that 97 rolls the Courier is doing ton of stuff.

>97
We're getting the brains for the ZAX, using the BOON for the ZAX, and Building the ZAX as well. And bloody hell we're teaching our kid how to be us, and talking with our people and writing our book. And the Military are going to make major gains, allowing us to get lots of metal to build all the shit we need. And the Divide Suits.

Just saying this turn, will be a great one. That ZAX Should be better than NCR ZAX. We're now going to be on the same level as the NCR in the amount of ZAX they have.
I'm happy with this turn of events.
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>>1748840
The increase in firepower seems very useful. Especially facing things like supermutants / the NCR supersoldiers. Even more so if we can do it without significant expenditure of materials.
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>>1748854
You think the NCR only has 1 ZAX?
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>>1748854
>We're getting the brains for the ZAX,
This gives me an idea.

>>1748650
Hey QM, what's the BigMT abduction system doing? Could we have it work with our alien scout ship? Perhaps by attaching it to the hull and stuff, or passively working while we're away?
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>>1748878
Yes. The NCR has not actually invented or created anything on their own. THey likely found a ZAX and claimed they built it.
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>>1748854
I'd point out that this is actually better than the NCR ZAX.

The reason being is that theirs is, assuming my understanding and suspicions of where they got it are right, the original prototype. Meanwhile ours is from RND and is genuinely superior even to the best of pre-war computers.

Honestly I considered sending a request to the NCR where we tasked our best computer against theirs at chess or something. Seeing if they'd accept and then watching them get fucked would be hilarious to me. Especially if we can get them to bet something over it and get it publicised.


>>1748878
They lack the ability to produce small efficient electronics and were showing it off like it was a miracle of their nation. Even pre-war they were very rare.

Chances of them having more? Low if not unbelievable.
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>>1748897
>>1748906
Yes, the one we saw in the NCR used vacuum tubes and was huge, as opposed to all the pre-war ZAXs we know of which use compact electronics.

Still think they've only got one?
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>>1748914
We didn't see it. It was stated by OP it was being controlled from far, far away.

They only have one or at the very least, they ain't producing them fast and even if they were, we can produce better.
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>>1748926
Well we can produce better of pretty much anything they've got. If not immediately then with just a little bit of research-effort on our part.

I'm not convinced they're not doing their best to churn the fuckers out though, and will have us beat by quantity if not quality. Yaunker's not dumb and surely if he's got a Zax he can task it with coming up how to build another Zax.
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>>1748906
We should return to the expo and see if they airbrushed over our flag with the NCR flag. CAn't be advertising "no genius can match the ZAX except this foreign douchebag."
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>>1748962
If they did, I want to make the NCR pay.
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>>1748962
Why would they do that. Thats just willful disrespect to the Head of State of a 'friendly' nation and trading partner.

If they want to minimise our impact and appeal they would just not show that segment on the television.
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>>1749011
Yeah, they probably just put the photo in a corner somewhere, and don't talk about it.
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>>1748906
It really is a great idea to challenge their Zax against our Zax though. Especially with the robot personalities installed we ought to have an edge.
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>>1749049
Not to mention the potential to make their ZAX unwilling to help them or even corrupt it's memory or something. Depending on how shit they are at cyber security and stuff.
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>>1749049

It is not.

How does one grow? By competing against another. If the NCR realises we have a Zax, it will be something they will increase funding for to improve their own computer sciences. Otherwise they will continue at their current pace, unhurried, secure in their superiority.
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>>1749088
makes sense. The propaganda victory doesn't seem worth it.
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>>1749088
They're already quite aware of our superiority in many respects and are investing heavily into their R&D in attempts to counter this before it ever becomes an issue (and also investing in espionage where their R&D is insufficient). Robots have always been the mainstay of our forces, and computer science goes hand-in-hand with them so it's reasonable to think that's already a prioritized area.
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>>1749088
Except they know we are technically competent and can rival them in computing power most likely. Plus the ZAX was the cutting edge of old world science who could throw much more funding at more educated scientists to work on this shit. The NCR would struggle to advance further especially since they lack the ability to produce small electronic parts needed for these kinds of computers.
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writing

I miss old capcha
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>>1749124
>>1749128

Firstly with their size, the NCR has the critical mass required for them to devote a segment of their industrial might to producing limited quantities of the electronic components required for others, they might be able to substitute vacuum tube technology for what they require so while they might struggle, they do have the size and capability to be working at producing the equipment they need without compromising their other activities. Whats more they do actually have a functioning Zax. One which will probably be advising them on how to recreate old world components by creating the new manufacturing processes. Even if they completely lack the capability of production, it is a matter of time before they are able to recreate these processes.

Whats more, we have a critical advantage in which our Zax AIs have specialised programming and characteristics to be well suited for their area of expertise.

Unlike Zax production, this is an advantage that can be easily copied.

It is ultimately, software. 0s and 1s can be easily copied and pitting our Zax AIs against they plain ye ol' Zax 1.0 means that we are exposing a hyper-intelligent learning computer to our generationally trained Zax AIs which have already refined the techniques of respective roles. The NCR Zax will be able to learn these techniques from our AIs and it can wipe out our computational advantage, not to mention the time and R&D advantage of the AI simulations to get to this point.

Thus I can see no good reason to expose our own Zax to the NCR Zax.
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>>1749191
>Which our Zax AIs have specialised programming and characteristics to be well suited for their area of expertise.
Our AIs have been working nonstop for 200+ years on being the most efficient in what they do. That's a good edge right their.

I agree keep our ZAX hidden.

Also with the NCR advancing right fast in the territories of the Legion, we could help fund and lead, Guerra warfare hurting the NCR push against the Legion
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>>1749191
Building off this, we might want to keep our Zax quiet and not going around showing it off.
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>>1749191

Well firstly, it ain't gonna learn shit about our AIs from playing Chess against our Zax.

(We don't even have to say they're playing against a ZAX if we don't want to).

Secondly, if it were just that easy to recreate the AIs after watching them then they wouldn't be anything worth keeping secret in the first place. Fortunately they're much more complicated than that.
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>>1749191
>Firstly with their size, the NCR has the critical mass required for them to devote a segment of their industrial might to producing limited quantities of the electronic components required for others, they might be able to substitute vacuum tube technology for what they require so while they might struggle, they do have the size and capability to be working at producing the equipment they need without compromising their other activities.
True but by the time they could figure all of that out and set aside the production, chances are the rest of their projects would've came to term and thus they'd be free of the resources needed to advance rapidly in such regards and I'd point out that they'd need to figure out how to produce such electronics which seeing as a conventional internal combustion engine had to be redeveloped, would take years.

>Whats more they do actually have a functioning Zax.
Yes, a functioning ZAX with only a single AI that doesn't seemingly have any known abilities in any major or useful areas.

>One which will probably be advising them on how to recreate old world components by creating the new manufacturing processes.
Mate the AI doesn't seemingly know shit. So I doubt it'd exactly be doing that any time soon with any skill.

>Even if they completely lack the capability of production, it is a matter of time before they are able to recreate these processes.
Logically yes.

>Whats more, we have a critical advantage in which our Zax AIs have specialised programming and characteristics to be well suited for their area of expertise.
Yep. Something that'd take the NCR 200 years to equal.

>Unlike Zax production, this is an advantage that can be easily copied.
Unlikely in almost every sense of the word, even more so than ZAX production.

>It is ultimately, software. 0s and 1s can be easily copied and pitting our Zax AIs against they plain ye ol' Zax 1.0 means that we are exposing a hyper-intelligent learning computer to our generationally trained Zax AIs which have already refined the techniques of respective roles. The NCR Zax will be able to learn these techniques from our AIs and it can wipe out our computational advantage, not to mention the time and R&D advantage of the AI simulations to get to this point.
If they can learn that from playing chess against each other, I'd be amazed. You are literally creating an issue where non-exists.

>Thus I can see no good reason to expose our own Zax to the NCR Zax.
Fair enough.
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BOON

>>1748614
>HERO
>- Give Riddick the Scoutship and tell him to kidnap Legionaries from beyond NV for brain harvesting / scrubbing (For the ZAX) and put their bodies into cold storage for when we do FEV work.

Under any other normal circumstance, Riddick might have refused but you suggest he go after some bad people who aren't using their brains anyway. He brings back corpses.

And you get to work cyberizing the brains. Doc Henry and Bradley's Brain come in handy here, as does Doctor Mobius facilities. The Forbidden Zone is perfectly capable of brain research, and with the help of the Auto-Doc, the five brains are extracted, cyberized, and a digital reset is made.

The brains are left to congeal for a while, as a much greater work is upon your scientists.
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>>1749373
>CONSTRUCTION
>Build the ZAX in a secure location at BigMT using a BOON.
You sit there with your B.O.O.N. breifcase wondering what to use it for, when something seems to buzz in your pocket.

It's RIG'D's multi-tool thingy. It float in midair, then before you can react jabs itself rather roughly into the BOON suitcase. There's a whirring noise, followed by lots of clicking, glowing lights, and a bell sound.

Then more beeping. Beeping that sounds, oddly enough, like ED-E. ED-E responds, as do all your repair bots, the fliers, the protections, the Omni-constructor and pan-constructor. You don't get the chance to ask what's going on before they all start heading toward the crashed Alien mothership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hquOZ5dtCPo

An ungodly sound is heard as metal is rent and cut away. You wonder what on earth is going on as all the Alien technology on the ship was melted by that alien years ago, but they seem to care not as they hack and carve and cut away the melted scrap.

And haul it straight to the Large Scale replicator, feeding it into the machine along with some fissile material.

There's a method to this madness. The replicator is doing something. It's making parts. All kinds of new parts and pieces, which are being collected by your out of control robots. They weld, they bolt, they hammer, they nail they duct tape and sticky glue pieces together in an ever growing conglomeration of bits and pieces as they build. . .something.
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>>1749501
The machine assembles itself deep underground in the newly discovered caverns, until the last pieces are in place. 5 slots for 5 brains, awaiting your personal input.

You are the hands that place them in one by one, as they close. The great device comes to life, energy humming through its glowing veins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKzWLUQizz8

<Activation Sequence::Initiate. . .>

<**ZAX - VAULT TEC (TM)**>

<Preset Program Recognized::Installing. . .>

>SPI
"Ooow, I have a headache."

>MAJOR
"Status report!"

>RND
"Seems we're in a brand new facility and a brand new ZAX."

>CEO
"My god look at this mess. This is your doing I suspect RIG'D"

>RIG'D
"Yer darned right it is!"

>RND
"Why is my brain unit connected to a toaster."

>SPI
"You're lucky, mine is hooked up to a refrigerator"

>RIG'D
"Quit yer whining, obviously we had to make d

>RND
"There is technology here I cant even begin to comprehend how it works. Where did you get most of this?"

>RIG'D
"Don't ask me, the multi-tool did it."

>SPI
"Oh boys, I think we're being watched."

>RIG'D
"So we are. Howdy there, uh, Courier right?"

>MAJOR
"Attten-hut!"

>CEO
"Greetings Courier.

Let's get down to business then."

---

THE ZAX

HAS BEEN

BUILT
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>>1750043
Yay.
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>>1750043
Guess it's time to put it to work.
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>>1690089
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1682622/
Thread 17 is when we got the AI's and ZAX Blueprints, a little over 2 weeks to get this build IRL.

Also the goodies gotta from the AI's
>MAJOR - Combat Formation Upgrades for your robot to improve robots in various settings. There's one here for urban combat.

>SPI - A superior digital radio design! This should increase our range enormously and provide bonus encryption, making it uncrackable.

>RIG'D - Some sort of weird multitool with the words "just try it on stuff and see what happens"

>RND - The blueprint to produce a ZAX machine and boy is it /expensive/ and big.
>CEO - A basic robotic production module. The exact thing you need to get the robotic facility working once you build it. It wont be intelligent or sentient, but it will be able to perform.
>RND
"All those designs . . . Better integrate my games though."
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>>1750071
We obviously provide free copy's of elder scrolls to our entire populace with in app purchases of course
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>>1750086
You monster. Also that'd kill us in regards to productivity, power and computing space.
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>>1750086
>>1750089
>We obviously provide free copy's of elder scrolls to our entire populace with in app purchases of course
>You monster. Also that'd kill us in regards to productivity, power and computing space.

Anons you are forgetting the bigger picture here. We have 10 debrained VR machines, just put the game in VR, and people will jump over heels, to get a chance to play the game. Increasing the amounts of brains we have, allowing more research.
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>>1750043
Huzzah! Have the Major upgrade and oversee our bots in the Divide, SPI itegrate with our other oversight AI and the other 3 see how to improve the replicators. Make em more efficient in terms of materials/energy waste and as it can work with alien materials, figure out how to replicate that. Also, what the hell is that multitool that it can control all our bots like that. Figure it out and use it in case we go up against any other bots (NCR, BoS, Enclave?).

I can already picture it...
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>>1750110
We are the Phoenix. Watch us rise from your ashes and chose: death or unity.
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OP passed out again
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>>1750108
Pods or room VR?
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>>1750397
The only VR we have are the debrain version, or the Medical VR university, but that's used for training doctors. The life support pods, are not really doing nothing. We should have like have something passive running in the background so we make sure of it.
Medical VR University
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)
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>>1750110

I'd like to propose a slightly different allocation of the AIs.

SPI & RND should work to create a spybot that can be utilised to gather information on the war situation between the NCR, Legion and MLA. We've been working on a deficit of good intel for a while and that has to change. Once that is down, CEO can crank them out and let SPI have free reign in gathering our intelligence.
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>>1750403
I'd argue robotics ain't the answer for information gathering in the short term. We'd be better off accepting we can't know the balance of power in detail except that the NCR is currently winning and then moving onto weakening them or whatever our plan is to deal with this fact.

Personally I want to try and develop some stealth infiltration robots. To make sabotaging the NCR's industry easier and more damaging, thus allowing us to render them far weaker far easier.


This'd be a background to the main focus however. Getting all of the resources of the Divide unified under us and moved against the Legion or into securing Utah. Not to mention creating enough power plants for our entire nations current capacity to register as 0.1%, so we can sustain true molecular alchemy and bring to bear our superior technology thanks to the resources that allows us.

This'd also be followed by massive tech trades with the BOS chapters, further exploration into the fallen BOS chapter for more good tech / salvage and supplying the MLA / Legion with weapons to resist the NCR while we prepare to conquest them and shit.

Then we get ready for the war against Elijah. Personally, based off of the Cloud's metallic nature and the existance of LAER weapons, I can't help but wonder if we couldn't electrify all the whole thing like a lightning cloud using a huge LAER or something.


All the while we'd continue to improve our general shit. An action here and there to just establish some civilian industry and to create some automated road laying / mining.
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I can see it now: Wast replicators spitting out titan sized war machines, support by drones invisible to the known spectrums, with the capabilities to repair and improve themselves og the fly...
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>>1750443
Nah man, vast replicators spitting out more Securitrons than we have people. All of them charging into the frontlines of the enemy. Turning the very air they fire through into a mix of acrid ozone and laser / LAER fire. The foes they face reduced to cinders and melted husks. A truly endless wave. No logistics trains to interrupt the production, too many command links to disrupt their overarching control and no weakness to exploit. No morale to break, no fears to exploit, no wants to use as bribes and no mercy for our enemies in battle.

All the while they are supported by entire armies of TACT and other heavier robots. Bastions, carriers, artillery pieces and actual mobile production facilities.


Imagine an NCR battle line, they rally as a pair of heavy tanks arrive and eliminate three dozen securitrons with a single shot each...then one is hit by a heavy LAER cannon and turned into a scrap pile with every troop in a few meters of it smelling nothing but ozone, liquefied flesh and molten steel. Assuming they survive the heat and arcing Tesla energy both directly in the path of the weapon and coming from the annihilated tank.

The remaining tank? It begins pulling back only to be bombarded by half dozen drones from the sky as it hits the leg off the bot that killed the other heavy tank. It's armour glowing from the laser fire, exploding with explosives and ripping apart under the projectile fire. As the NCR line collapses all around them.


All the while the destroyed and damaged units are replaced, repaired and reinforced by three times their number at least. The NCR wounded are harvested for their brains for creating more ZAX's or computation-heavy combat frames. Their bodies along with the dead turned into nutrient soup to feed the scrubbed brains of the existing combat forms and to be bio-fuel used to provide additional power where and when needed.
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>>1748650
What happened to 20 heavy bastions?
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>>1750464
That is an excellent point.
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>>1750043
Should we spend construction/research action to turn juryrigged mess and turn our ZAX into a sleek, futuristic, more efficient machine?

Or will that happen automatically?
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>>1750472
The appearance doesn't effect the efficiency of it seemingly and even if it did, it'd cost too much most likely.
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>>1750401
Another incentive for people to get de brained.

Forget about video games. They can experience whatever kind VR entertainment they want.
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>>1750463
Truly, the future is here!
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>>1750472
>>1750477
How about we figure out how the thing works to build more in the future?

>>1750403
Also as >>1750436 mentioned. I would like to use this to improve what we have. The replicator tech could be the end-all-be-all we need. We just have to get it to a level where we can put it to constant use. 24/7 robot production without power outages or resource problems is what I want and what we need right now. Bolster our ranks at home and then start expanding into mass recon operations. For now we can have the Courier go and scout things out, maybe have the scoutship cloaked a bit better.
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>>1750503
>How about we figure out how the thing works to build more in the future?
We know how to. We have the blueprint as well as the inventor.

Unless you mean the scrap / boon version but that is more or less impossible to understand. However we might learn a few tricks from it.


Also I'd point out that my plans are fairly long term. Short term shit is mostly expanding our military and securing the Divide. Along with weakening the NCR's push into the Legion / trade with the MLA and founding a Utah colony.
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>>1750503
>>1750534
Guys most of the turn is not over yet.
1/4 of the hero action.
That 97 roll to write in our book.
That 97 roll to talk with the people
That 97 roll to train Sam to be us
Military action
That 97 roll to start attacks on the Divide and get metal
Research
That 97 roll to get Hazmat combat suits for human
Passive
That 97 roll for pan construction robots.

Things are looking up this turn. Our military are going to have so much experience, we learned how to fight Urban, now we're learning how to fight a entrenched enemy.
Also they are both Legion and NCR marked men, so we are learning counters to their fighting styles
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>>1750539
Their old fighting styles but still I suppose that will be useful.


To be honest it's mostly the raw materials and space we need. The constant wind / storms of the Divide mean that wind power can make up for the lack of solar power potential in the region.

Still, we'd be better off focusing on expanding into Utah since it's more hospitable and shit for our people / more useful long term. Especially as we may soon reach a cap for New Washington's population. At least for now.
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>>1750541
Utah will be useful as a little offshore type of thing.
Far from NCR, Legion, and maybe MLA. Where we can expand quickly, get shit going in Utah, like Iron mining, to use less energy in making things. And it will be the best place to place our chickens and cows
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>>1750546
>Far from NCR, Legion, and maybe MLA.
MLA city is in North Utah, south Utah has Legion towns.
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>>1750547
Good enough for me. South Utah weak amount of Legion.
North Utah, just build some defenses and your good. Against air, and land vehicles.

As well with the fighting style at least we know how to unroot a enemy. Since we got a Nat 1. They are going to be great teachers of what to do when you have a enemy that isn't leaving.

Think of it as NCR last stand, on a tiny scale, on a easier setting.

Our general will be great after this. We should have some promising officers under him to be able to learn from him, giving us new generals in the future.
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>>1750546
The Utah region is mostly useful for the potential to support us economically and agriculturally. Since it allows us to support a sufficiently large population of Brahmin and crops to mass produce most conventional chems or drugs. Meaning we can not only strengthen the MLA (temporarily so they can weaken / distract the NCR) but grow our population (slaves, orphans and the willing), gain influence in another state and gain trade opportunities for technology they steal but also the potential to trade for scrap and shit.

Utah's potential for mining resources is amazing since with our modern replication technology we can make that ore directly into robots. Utah also represents a region which if we secure, we limit the NCR's expansion and it can be done fairly easily by us. Since it would merely involve defeating the MLA and some minor Legion assets. Which would in turn allow us to further limit the NCR's growth and extend our reach into valuable areas.


>>1750557
Very true. Plus the MLA are immensely creative and resourceful. We can learn much from them in terms of combat tactics and weapons.
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>>1750560
I fear that if we were to start claiming Utah in any meaningful way at this stage we would be spreading ourselves too thin. We have too few robots to really protect ourselves if anyone really wanted to attack us and with the addition of a manned base in Utah the strain will become even bigger. Once we have the Divide and replicator tech nailed down I agree but right now there are far better things to strive for.
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>>1750605
I'd point out that the Utah colony wouldn't be that expensive to maintain, since we have access to teleportation with decent range and can power it using solar, hydro and bio-fuel based electrical generation and a decently sized alien battery. As this would allow us to quickly move assets to and from the area.

Then there is the fact that we don't need to defend Big mt from the NCR and they've shoved the Legion back for now if not for good so no robotic forces are really needed there. Thus we can deploy them all to the Divide or the Utah project.

Plus the materials we can harvest from there, will greatly strengthen our military forces for example since a ready supply of iron for steel could easily be found in the region and the MLA presence makes trade for slaves for population growth easy. Which can be financed in turn by the previously described herds of animals and a fairly simple processing plant.
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>>1750617
>>1750605
Hold up if NCR is able to beat back the Legion. We have the perfect thing for the Legion people that will be killed by the NCR army. Since I would think they would warp out all people.just for.living on the wrong side. So that a way we can expand population

tho they will be Legion supporters.
But maybe we can set up our own camp to teach them the wonders of our life? Or just keep them separate in their own place, until people will join us overtime.

They get to BigMT by the teleporter we have.
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>>1750636
That is a terrible idea on so many levels that I am genuinely amazed you think that is a good idea.

You are seriously underestimating just how much trouble even a dozen Legion supporters could do to our people / society and what a large number would do to our approval.
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>>1750640
It's a horrible idea that posting it will for sure make people post on it. While also giving people ideas on adding population.
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>>1750641
It has been discussed previously when we were discussing our plans for conquest of the Legion and how to deal with POW's and shit.

The majority of the Legion is entirely unfit for re-purposing in our society beyond nutrient-fluid, research bodies and brains for scrubbing. The slaves and young are the only ones we can reasonably save and even the slaves is pushing it.
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>>1750643
Now we just need to go to space
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>>1750645
Plans have been considered, revised, developed and considered.

Primary method remains unfeasible until we secure a functioning extra-atmospheric engine we can reproduce.
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>>1748614
>>RESEARCH
>Divide / Cloud "hazard" suits/combat armour for humans.

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>You
[Greetings think tank!]

>KLEIN
"YES MOBIUS, LOBOTOMITE, WHATEVER.

WHAT DO YOU WANT"

>You
[Are any of you familiar with a ZAX]

>Dr. 0
"A ZAX? You mean like the artificial intelligence model computer built by Vault Tec?"

>KLEIN
"VAULT-TEC. IF THEY BUILT IT, IT WAS PROBABLY STOLEN FROM US. FROM ME EVEN!"

>Dr 0
"Sure Dr. Klein. Everything was stolen by you. . ."

>You
[I built one here at BigMT. We have some new computational power now. I'm using it to try and counter an old invention of yours.

Does a caustic floating red noxious gas from the Innovative Toxins plant ring a bell?]

>Dr Dala
"Hmmm. The Innovative Toxins plant was often run by third parties rather than us directly. Awful stuff was made in there, so many poisons, trying to harm poor defenseless organs and tissues, to make sweet breathing organisms inhale death rather than air.

We may not have the files on that project right now, but here, an advanced air filtration system I had worked on. Maybe it will help."

>Dr 0
"Try the archives as well. Might in there!"

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Sure enough the files are found. Unfortunately, this seems to have been a government project and is highly censored with bits of data missing, but this will surely help.

Now to bring it to the ZAX.
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>>1750684
>You
[. . .and that is why we have to maintain a charade to the Think Tank. So that they don't end up trying to turn the whole world into one gigantic petri dish. This I accomplish by being the scary and all powerful Dr. Mobius. So whatever you do, try not to enlighten the Think Tank up above of the outside world. At least not until I figure out how to make them less batshit insane]

>RND
"Hmm, I see."

>Veronica
"No offense but what's to stop these guys from taking over the world on a robotic rampage?"

>You
[Because I helped them and we have a deal.

Also because I checked and these ZAX's had built in Asimov AI governators]

>SPI
"Stupid Asimov Governators.

Oh well. I guess tying up little old me isn't so bad."

>CEO
"A contract is a contract. You rescued us, we'll help you."

>Major
"Defection is not our prerogative!"

>RIG'D
"Scratch our back, we scratch yours son."

>RND
"Yeah."

>CEO
"Onto the matter at hand. I believe you requested specialized human protective gear yes? RND?"

>RND
"Ok.

So you have one region with intense radioactive dust storms caused by nuclear fallout and weather tampering, give or take the occasional lightning storm.

And another of a rolling cloud of acidic and caustic death. Got any juicy details?"

>You
[I have some files here that might be useful. Also I think I have a sample of the cloud in my pack here somewhere.]

>RND
"Let me take a look. Anything else?]

>You
[I have a talking kitchen sink that's written a thesis on anti-toxin and contamination sterilization. She's fairly good, I could connect you to her.]

>RND
"I uh. . .sure. Uh, I better brush my circuitry. Hey, guys is my conversational matrix on right?"

>SPI
"Oh RND. . ."
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>>1750697
>RND
"Alright, so sink and I have worked on the prototype of a chemical neutralizing agent that should be effective against direct contact with the cloud. It also has a variant of Rad-X mixed into it.

I've taken in your advice on the previous version of the anti-cloud Hazmat suit, cannisters will deposit this over most of the joints, latches, and any necessarily exposed metallic parts.

Its slimy and turns into mud in contact with dust or the cloud and falls off, but this should help improve survivability.

MAJOR how goes the exosuit design."

>MAJOR
"Operations proceeding on schedule.

Have designed ample protective cover while maintaining flexibility and combat viability. Basic hydraulic systems installed and ample covering provided."

>RND
"Good. CEO have you figured out how to optimize and shrink that air filtration system"

>CEO
"Yes, this should maintain 100% overall effectiveness while a 20% reduction in size via highly sophisticated components. Increase in cost of 15%, but warranted."

>RIG'D
"And hey, I've even managed to tinker with that alien disintegration beam thingy and added it in. Any air filtered through will get a nice little zap and be clean as a whistle."

>RND
"Good. Everything is nearly there.

Only problem is the neutralizing slime has such a limited lifespan. We could make the tanks bigger, but then they'd be way too heavy. Its more suited for quick or emergency exposure to the cloud.

We need a more viable solution here. . .but what?"

>RIG'D
"Hey! My multi-tool found something.

Its all half melted, but I think I might be able to make it work. Gimme a sec."
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>>1750721
Inb4 hazmat suits are overall better than our current PAs
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>>1750723
Hah, that would be amazing. These guys are super cool.
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>>1750723
Now just add small thrusters for short jumps for movement.

Also, do you gents think we should start looking into making black-ops teams for covert missions? Enemy supply raids and infrastructure damage, espionage. Tht sort of thing. Not spies but commandos. Drop them off by scoutship and pick them up a week later and knee-deep in blood. Seems cool?
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It isn't true Power Armor, but damned if it isn't close.

The Suit is exoarmor, with rudimentary exoskeleton hydraulics, and resembles a spacesuit.

Because, effectively, it is a space suit as it was based mostly on that.

Complete with its own closed ventilation system that is disintegration and holographic-laser filtered.

It will require some special training to use, but not as much as true power armor. It is still very strong, comparable to some of the most highly advanced conventional armors out there, though with the need for a powerful battery it is bulky (and sticky) and slow, but not debilatatingly so.

The key feature is a highly advanced repulsion holographic field partly based on recovered alien design and your own holographic technology, designed to keep dust and cloud away from contact with the suit itself. It is adaptable, decreasing or increasing its power based on the thickness of the hazard surrounding it. However it is not a true forcefield and doesn't deflect energy or kinetic shots, but the upshot is when punctured the neutralizing agent quickly covers the hole affording some time for the user to retreat and find cover and repair.

The air filtration system is a bonus as well, and already a design is set to modify vehicles and buildings for it. The Omni-Constructor on the field has already modified your vehicles and forward outpost based with them.

Your troops now have true and direct protection against the Divide, the Cloud, and just about any kind of nasty poisons the enemy could throw at you!

The good news is with further research, these concepts can even be applied to your robots!
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>>1750744
It also comes with an advanced inside face screen which offers built in map and guidance system for low visibility, akin what you might see in the NCR's recon helmets or the Chinese Stealth Helmets.

As an added measure thanks to Dr. Dala, it also bears some of the Medical Trauma Harness features.This time made to work perfectly thanks to help from Mary Jo Casey and Auto-Doc.
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>>1750744
>The Suit is exoarmor, with rudimentary exoskeleton hydraulics, and resembles a spacesuit.
>Because, effectively, it is a space suit as it was based mostly on that.
Huh, this might be useful for when we get to space.
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>>1748614
>Unity
"Just remember dear, she's not a part of the Unity right now. That means, I can't shift her consciousness to another form if needed. I hope you understand the risk."

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>- We continue educating our daughter. The quicker she's a fully trained mini-courier and capable of being deployed to fight alongside us or in other places, the better.

Where to begin? That's the question.

You can definitely think of many experiences NOT to teach Sam. For all your Brain has said, you have to admit some of your decisions in life were a bit more ad hoc than planned out.

Killing a ghost bear while hyped on peyote.

Having an unarmed boxing match with a Behemoth.

Taking on an a gang of riflemen with nothing but a golf club.

And then a lifetime of dangerous and risky gambits before that.

A few ideas come to mind, though you are sure you can think of more.
>Teach her some super science and techy things!
>Go out on a survival camping trip somewhere
>Melee combat training with Veronica, Riddick, and Dandan
>Hone in her sneaky sneak skills
>Take her to Baker, let her learn some of her natural skills and meet her siblings
>Riflemanship, Energy Weapons, guns guns guns
>Other?
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>>1750767
CHOOSE:
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>>1750767
>Melee combat training with Veronica, Riddick, and Dandan
>Develop her Emotional understanding more.
Those two are the most important for now.
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>>1750773
Supporting
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>>1750773
Support
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Test
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>>1750767
This >>1750773

Also tell her to try and rejoin the hive. Everybodies worried about her.
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>>1750841
Nah, it's her decision we shouldn't interfere with that.
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>>1750847
>>1750841

Perhaps ask her to check in with the hive by joining /leaving again to let those who are worried about her know shes ok.
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>>1750970
Well she can just talk to her mom about how she's doing. She doesn't need to go through the trouble of baring her soul to everyone in the hive mind on a regular basis.
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>>1750841
I don;'t like the Hive.
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>>1751017
And you are right not to. If they are militarizing themselves and they can convert people seemingly easily then we have a real problem. The Hive now chooses its members but if they are desperate they may decide otherwise. More wild members means the hive makes different decisions and this could go down a bad rabbit hole. Especially since any knowledge is shared among them. Imagine if they turn a scientist, They all know what he does. Or a Ranger? Spy?

Its bad. Just have to hope Unity can keep it under control until we figure out a better long term plan.
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>>1751031
Well we can't expect loyalty for doing nothing, and we haven't done anything for them. So once we get the FEV lab up and start working on their skin issues, they'd be more likely to toe our line.
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>>1751060
They get all the knowledge and give nothing in return. And then they start demanding we focus on their needs above the needs of our people? Please. The only good thing we got was Unity and really, she is not that useful. Perhaps when the FEV lab is up but right now they have nothing to whine about.
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>>1751031
>if they get desperate
Desperate from what? Them forecfully bringing people in would fuck with there own Hive-bullshit. They have to be picky.

>>1751017
For what real reason?

>>1751008
>All you need to do is talk to mom, ignore what could count as 'family'

>>1751084
> start demanding we focus on their needs above the needs of our people?
>Promised to help them out and people kept pushing it off

Jesus what the fuck.
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>>1751114
>For what real reason?
I never liked Hiveminds, real creepy.
It must be my American Spirit from within, wanting private freedom, that others don't know what I'm doing or thinking.

Just think about it, your by yourself and want to be alone, but can't
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>>1751127
I mean its less like a Hive-mind and more like the Geth from ME. They all get a say in the matter and go with the one that 'won'. This also proved that anybody with enough will can separate or get there own 'space'
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>>1751137
I was going to make post something else, but I felt it was too lewd to talk about.
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>>1751152
Having sex with a hive mind is sort of a mix between a massive orgy, and performing in front of a live studio audience. Think of the naughty grandmas whispering advise into Unity's ear during coitus.
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>>1751158
Yeah, that what I mean. It's just weird, normal if you grew up in it.
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>>1751158
"Use the roof of your mouth dearie"
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>>1751220
Case and point. Now think of that, but all of Unity people are normal humans that can have babies. They're going to have that thoughts 24/7. Not healthy for our little girl. Causing a desalination society.

10/10
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>>1751231
Sounds like they would be fun to play online games with then.

because the lack of salt.
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>>1751253
>Sounds like they would be fun to play online games with then.
They don't have a problem of seeing split screen, they just know where you are, or feel where you are. Advance ghosting taken to the see level, so they can feel you as you play
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>>1751084
>Perhaps when the FEV lab is up
It's been built already, we're just waiting on additional protective gear (like the new suits) to ensure there is no risk of containment failure.
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>>1751337
Nope. We have to clean up the toxins research lab, then build it.
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>>1751370
There were also 3 upgrades which we can get before cleaning up the plant. One of them was the hazmat suit we just developed
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>>1751398
yup. So we can build some suits, clean up the toxins lab, then send them off to the Divide.

Though we should still develop clean up bots and the general toxin-neutralizing agents.

But we do have anti-cloud. If we can make misters that work with them we can neutralize Elijah's main trump card.
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>>1751084
Dude, we promised to help them, and I don't know if you fucking remember about unity "not being that useful" when she turned into a weird fucking meatdragon that proceeded to rape the mess we came back to almost single-handedly. Or how she's the literal perfect spy, able to shapeshift in seconds perfectly, down to voice imitation. Or how she offered a perfectly valid solution to our entire food and energy crisis early on that we chose to ignore completely, which she was totally down with.

OR HOW SHE COULD HAVE FLOWN INTO A RAGE AND DESTROYED MOST/ALL OF OUR SHIT EARLY ON WHEN WE PROCEEDED TO BANG EVERYTHING IN SIGHT, AND INSTEAD WAS NOT ONLY COOL WITH IT, BUT WAS A MOTHER TO ALL OF OUR OTHER CHILDREN WHEN THEIR MOTHERS COULDN'T HACK IT.

Hive minds are creepy, I totally agree. It's weird that she's kinda a he and some kind of weird trap/trans whatever the fuck thing. It's not great that all of this shit is happening, but please, please don't be this retarded and selectively remember what she's done and could do.
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>>1751398
From the previous thread on this;
>[ ] The SINK's Sink would like a research action to develop suitable Anti-Toxins against the Toxin Plant
>[X] Doc Henry says this is good opportunity to research advanced hazmat suits or even hazmat armor
>[ ] Jacob Miles says this is a good opportunity to use a Robotics Research Action to develop a modified Hazmat Securitron for Biohazard Cleanup

So we now have 1 of 3 upgrades necessary

What does everyone thing of creating a Cabinet underneath the Courier?

It would mostly comprise of our companions and would allow us to delegate some responsibility and keep the wheels moving on things that are not our immediate priority - like education.
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>>1751548
No, It won't do anything.
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>>1751548
I wouldnt mind it, Thinking more of a mayor type thing for our towns. Something like an elected position.
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>>1751548
We only need 1 of the upgrades. They were 3 options of how to solve the toxicity problem.
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>>1751574
Iirc, we could get all 3 or ignore them all before continuing with the clean up. After the cleaning we will lose them.

>>1751548
If that actually does anything, I'm for it.
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>>1751607
Those were suggestions on what to do inorder to clean up the toxins lab. So we research a method, apply it, and build the FEV lab.
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>>1751557
>>1751574
Would be great if the QM could confirm both of these assumptions.
- Did we only need the one upgrade to clean the toxins plant?
- Would giving some individuals official positions and resources within our government allow for passive growth / development?
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>>1751638
>>1751635
>>1751607
I would say we only need 1 of the three. But having all three give us more fail safes, so if shit happens we don't have FEV be release to our people.
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>>1751647
Well we have a free robotics research action every turn, so the third one is easy to do.
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>>1751703
Now that we have ZAX, do we get a free general research action?
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Got called into work earlier today, will be back soon tonight in a few hours
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>>1751638
>- Did we only need the one upgrade to clean the toxins plant?
Technically yes, though without suitable anti-toxins, you'll just be storing the stuff in barrels. Theoretically you could disintegrate them once you get the mass disntegrator replicator online.

>- Would giving some individuals official positions and resources within our government allow for passive growth / development?
Think it out a bit more but yes actually. There are many possibilities, one suggestion you might have is to put people in charge of stuff like civilian relations. You know, like a certain Odd guy.
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>>1752277
that sounds acceptable for now.
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>>1752277
So, if we were to make Jacob our 'Secretary of Infrastructure' and provide him with a dedicated staff of designers, engineers, builders, etc - on top of the office and private secretary he already has - that would eventually lead to passive development of construction projects or designs?
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>>1752438
He'd need supplies and equipment too: mining, construction and surveying droids along with a supply of Hexcrete or something.
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>>1752438
He's an engineer, but does he have a degree in Urban Planning?
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>>1748614
>-Talk to our people and get a feeling for what they need most in life / what they want us to get them next.
Through the power of Alexa, you get this information right away.

And well, as always, people want more. Much more.

Alexa provides services such as Television, Radio, and Telephone services all in one. These are however, limited to what holotapes you can provide. You have brought in many new NCR shows such as cartoons, tv recordings of Old World and a few New Ones including some Old World Video games.

However as it turns out your nation has few to no cultural production groups really, apart from the two Radio AI's. The NCR's new Reno is producing new films and shows of all kinds using scavenged Hollywood equipment.

The people want more NCR entertainment, but what they want is entertainment in general. You wonder if you might find people who can help design new ones.

Then there is the home front. There are still no windows. Windows are nice. They'd like that.

But more. Carpetted floors. New furnitures. Home appliances. decorations. Luxury home goods.

Furthermore they have seen NCR advertisements for new lines of clothing, in direct examples from your "wives". They want these things too.

And most of all, they would all enjoy their very own Mr. Handy to cook, clean, and care their homes for them.

In general the demand for household goods and luxuries is high. It's just as Mr. House predicted, "a nation of customers".
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>>1752485
Qm i'm confused about this whole 'windows' thing they want. You keep bringing that up but the whole secruity thing came first and they should have grown used to it. We'd have to cut a literal hole in the wall and fuck with the Hexcrete used to install a piece of glass that won't keep them safe in any fashion and they should value safety over comfort no matter what.
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>>1752489
The glass factory, make glass for our robots, and machines, but never the windows people want.
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>>1752489
You have often found that while security comes before comfort, when people achieve security, comfort is the natural 2nd step they strive for. It is perhaps the entire reason why cities like New Vegas and New Reno prosper.

Your people feel secure enough to want things, rather than just need things.

Also houses have to be ventilated. At the time you didn't have much glass production and didn't bother to scavenge old windows, so Jacob just installed metal shutters that people keep slightly open.

If security is your concern, Jacob Miles suggests installing the windows in such a way that a hexcrete barriers can quickly deploy and seal them in the event of a major catastrophe.
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>>1752512
If they have Metal shutters, then clearly they already have windows?

I fucking despise this mindset of needing windows.The world is full of radation, Bullshit weather and god knows what else at random points. Weather changes at a whim and they would rather see the death coming then be secure.
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>>1752546
The answer is obviously produce transparisteel.
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>>1752546
I feel they want windows to stop bugs from coming in there home. Or windows just to keep the houses cooler.

So giving them windows will give us less energy used to cool homes.

>>1752558
I agree or bullet proof glass
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>>1752564
>Windows stop bugs
Thats the screen mate.

>>1752558
Honestly, That would work.
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>>1752546
>Jacob Miles
"Actually, I'd argue glass windows might be safer against natural hazards like radiation. Especially if we make them lead lined.

These folding metal shutters aren't exactly air tight and if we also make them tinted then we might save on the electrical bill by air conditioners not running so high during the day.

If the weather gets really bad people can close the metal shutters over them. It'd keep the dust out too, whole town had to clean itself over during the last dust storm."
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>>1752591
Very well then Miles. Thank you for clearing that up.


It may be my paranoidness of missiles flying into the windows and killing families.
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>>1752599
Mate if the missiles are that close to our settlements, we're fucked either way.
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>>1752485
What your people also want are jobs that pay bottlecaps, for the purpose of travel and acquiring these luxuries. It reminds you of, as why Marcus put it, people would travel the wasteland to spend all their earnings away at New Vegas.

ree food, water, shelter, and good living with added security are all a wastelander could ever dream of. But you have often found that once people transition from wastelanders to house livers, new needs arise.

They want to be tourists in the NCR like you and your wives, spend money there, and buy things.

However this presents the obvious drawback of NCR inculturation of your people and, well, its quite obvious your government policy is anti-NCR.

---
A group of Followers would like to offer an alternative solution.

They call themselves the “Pioneers of Post Scarcity”. Each of them have drawn up a conclusion.

The increasing automization and the potential for automization has rendered certain labour job moot for our small scale society.

It has been shown that, at least for our town of 200, we have eliminated most of the difficult labour jobs and we could easily get rid of the last remaining one as well. The farms could be automated in a couple of turns at ease.

They say that your discovery of replicators and use of the Old World’s best science has made this possible and opened up new opportunities even the old world didn’t have.

They propose an experiment in a new model of economy, one in which strenuous human labor is made unnecessary, and human work shifts toward more creative and intelligence based pursuits and education. Your society would shift to one of researchers, engineers, artisans, and service folk. They are basing their model off of Vault City’s model, only rather than using human slaves to do the hard tasks, that job is replaced by robots.

They say you have already conquered one of the hardest hurdles, “the removal of money from the equation of basic living needs.”
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>>1752641
Excellent. Lets try it.
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>>1752641
Well either we go down like the city of Rapture or we rise to become the greatest nation ever with this system.

Also, if we expand into Utah, we could construct a resort facility and let our people relax there for two weeks per year or something.
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>>1752641
Lets Try it.
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>>1752641
Try it
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