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“The Hive are still a mysterious species by all accounts, living in the Expanse along the edge of explored space, we still know nothing of their political landscape, history, or culture, and virtually nothing of their biology.” Lee and the others watch the holoscreen as it pans over closeup shots of various decorations within the Hive embassy. “What few clues we have, however, show hints to an ancient and intricate culture with roots spreading across the Expanse and beyond.”

“Those carvings are mostly skyl designs, actually.” Lee says to the others. “That and some visual representations of some ancient events and the like. I think there's a carving of me by the door. Yea! There it is!” He says as he points to the screen. He gives Sushi a quick elbow, causing his boneless mass to wobble in his seat. His eye stalks recoil for a moment.

“Excuse me for a moment. I need to use the little cephalopod's room.” He says blandly, his synthesized voice popping slightly with static as he hoists himself over the back of his seat and floats away down the hall.

“Not sure if the plumbing's been fitted for non-humans yet.” Lee says. The taidaren triplets bob their heads in quick patterns as they change their focus from the screen to Lee.

“We are not picky.”

“You can use the dumpster outside.” Lee says. “Don't think I forgot what you did to my bathroom last time.”

The pale ceph floats down the hall into the main entrance of your embassy, keeping low to the ground as workers pass by periodically. A tentacle wipes over the fine stonework of the chamber as if attempting to rub off some unseen obstruction, his eye stalks shivering as they focus on a small, ancient symbol carved into some obscure corner of the room. His voice implant makes a number of meaningless noises as it fails to translate some sudden burst of neural activity, and his eye stalks quickly reel back into his head as he rushes back to the others with a soft, sputtering sequel as his water jets attempt to function on instinct in the open air. He lands back in his seat in a tight ball of coiled tentacles, his pale skin quickly adapting the texture of the cushion beneath him.

“You alright?” Lee asks.

“Yes.” Sushi says quickly, the voice someone disrupted with static.

Welcome back to Hive Queen Quest!

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Daily reminder

>Raid OQ
>Read the locked memories of that thinker.
>Board a scav vessel for their FTL.
>Send a diplomacy team to earth.
>Build that new FTL prediction building.
>Take Reprive (I think that is the system that our mother made her last stand and it only has mining corvetts, it would be a great test for our raiding fleet.)
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>>1674718
Awwww.

Don't be scared. Mother loves you.
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>>1674724
I'd add "infiltrate Ceph homeworld through Valen Gate."
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>>1674733
Not everyday you find out your friend is ambassador to what your kind consider literal Demons and get invited over to the Demons house for games and TV
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>>1674750
>Tfw you ironically play Chaos with your friend and then find out he's actually Abbadon the Despoiler
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>>1674750
>>1674751
That's not even getting into the fact that their symbol for demon is apart of our banner. That like if a native German was unironically waving the nazi flag while saying SEIG HEIL.
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>>1674783
I'd compare it more to a fundamentalist Christian discovering they've been hanging out in a Satanic Temple.

Regardless of how the locals actually act or believe, they're gonna freak out.
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>>1674718
“Alarms are down.” Your tech says. The wire running from his wrist to the console grows warm to the touch as his fingers race over the keyboard. “Automated security is set up with multiple redundancies. I can only access the standard corporate security systems. If we go into any classified area, it's likely they will have their own network that I can't see from here. Everything up to that point is down, however.”

"Good." Sam says. "How long until they notice?"

"We'll probably already be in the high security area by then." Your tech replies.

"That's going to be a bit messy." Feng says. "We don't have any good way to get into the target area, and we don't have a map of the interior, only up to this point. You need three layers of biometrics to get in, on top of ID card and password."

"I got a key." Sam says. Feng nods.

"The doorknocker, rather crude but that's why we have it. We need to get to point six, it's a small assembly lab for prototype cybernetics and it's directly underneath the main entrance to the high security area. We get there, we can burn an entrance through the ceiling."

You continue to examine the map data provided by both the terminal, and your mission briefing, quickly comparing it to your flies observations as your tech opens the exterior air vents one after another, deactivating the built-in security measures within them as microfilm filters eject from their housings and sensor arrays deactivate and fold away into maintenance mode.

"I can't find a way in here either." Your tech says as you search for any potential entrance, even for your flies. "The place is air tight with its own oxygen supply."

"And the walls and doors are a carbon nano-lattice interwoven with a diamond filament." Feng says. "Getting up here was the easy part."

Your tech continues to examine the map as well as the security data of the facility. You quickly shut down the vitals sensors for the local guards along with deactivating the automated security.

>Recommend using the map of the guards' patrol routes to avoid them entirely on your way to the lab
>Quickly ambush the guards and move as quickly as possible
>Other (write in)
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>>1674805
Eh, not quite. Most Ceph in the Union will either be pale Ceph (and therefore outcasts) or rebels/heretics. They wouldn't be fundamentalist and might even lean atheist. It still must be a huge shock that not only are "biblical" demons real, but they're pretty cool guys, though.
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>>1674832
>Recommend using the map of the guards' patrol routes to avoid them entirely on your way to the lab
Gotta be sneeki
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>>1674851
I'm more concerned about whether there's some Manchurian-candidate-style programming stuck in their biology and/or harnesses. It wouldn't be the first time in fiction that a mysterious, powerful, but distance force uplifted a species that was only subsentient without technological assistance while working in backdoor imperatives into the devices that make their sentient largely possible.

Has QuestDrone read A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, by any chance?
>>1674718
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>>1674832
>>Quickly ambush the guards and move as quickly as possible

I think we should make sure there will be a little trouble on the way out as possible
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>>1674832
>>Quickly ambush the guards and move as quickly as possible
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>>1674832
>You need three layers of biometrics to get in, on top of ID card and password."

...So, can we access the personnel files of people who probably have access?

If we can download the biometrics data, I think one of our clones here has a chance of spoofing it. Though he can pretend he just 'hacked' it open.
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>>1674832
>Quickly ambush the guards and move as quickly as possible

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for your clones to fight their way to the lab as quickly as possible.
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>1674937
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Rolled 27 (1d100)

>>1674937
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>1674937
For Mother!
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Rolled 94 (1d100)

>>1674937
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>>1674939
First roll of the thread and we're off to a good start I see.
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Aww yiss
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>>1674937
"We need to get to that lab as quickly as possible." Your clone says.

"I agree. Hit them hard while they're blinded." Sam says. "This thing will need some time to burn through the target, so better we make good use of every second. Now let's go." Your tech quickly unplugs his wrist from the terminal and follows the others to the door.

"Dummy lock." Your brawler says as he examines the antiquated lock on the door. "Good way to keep hackers out, I guess." He palms the lock with his hand and fires his sledgehammer within his arm. The lock shatters as the door buckles inward, swinging open as it crashes against the wall with a loud crack. Your clones rush in through the door to the hallway beyond, weapons held at the ready as the rest of the squad follows behind.

"Down these stairs, to the left, and through an airlock. It's a clean room so it's anti-pathogen, not proper security." Feng says as he reads out the details of his datapad. Your clones quickly fire several shots into a group of security guards as they reach for their weapons, sending them falling back down the stairwell before flopping to the ground below. More guards quickly rush behind cover.

"Sound the alarm, we have a breach!" Someone shouts. "Central, do you copy? Central? Damnit!"

The guards duck behind their makeshift cover as your clones open fire. Sam rolls a grenade between the legs of a security scanner propped up beside the airlock. The guard hiding behind quickly leaps from the cover as an axe lands into the side of his head. The other guard holds out his arm, firing blindly at your clones as your sharpshooter fires a single shot through a small digital screen on the side of the security terminal. The guard's arm flops to the ground, and he slides down the side of the scanner leaving a small streak of blood as your brawler sprints through the airlock, firing his sledge mid-jump and shattering the door with a loud hiss of air.

You watch as sam picks up his grenade, the pin still firmly within it.

"Gonna need this later more than now. No sense wasting good plasma on just one guy." He says as your clone glances his way.

"Just set up your equipment and make it fast." Your brawler responds. Feng quickly enters the lab behind your clones, hoisting his submachine gun into the air as he fires a burst over the heads of several shocked lab technicians.

cont.
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>>1674939
This drone pleases Mother.
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>You watch as sam picks up his grenade, the pin still firmly within it.

Uh...smart.
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>>1675101
"Everyone line up on the far wall and get on the ground!" He shouts. The workers scramble back away as moves closer, threatening several who are slow to move as they stumble over themselves. Sam plants his so-called doorknocker firmly onto the ground as several large clawed supports clamp deep into the floor, screwing into place as he adjusts the device to a near forty degree angle at the ceiling. The device, roughly the length of a full sized umbrella and nearly a foot and a half thick, hums to life before a deafening beam of ionized particles lances out into the ceiling, slicing through the tile and sterilized plastic instantly before small streams of molten metal and carbon alloy begin to rain down in thick, glowing sheets.

The helmets on your clones instantly dim the light level as the beam slowly burns through the thick reinforced plating of the high security area above, the noise like a jet turbine overwhelming the sounds of the panicking researchers as they shield their eyes and duck behind the desks on the far wall.

"Six minutes!" Sam shouts over the radio as he reads out the instruments on the side of the device. "We need to hold this spot here until then!" Feng and Hiromi quickly pull out a telescoping scroll of fabric as they walk back out the entrance to the lab, planting the device into the wall at one end and unfolding the fabric across the room as it expands to fill the space from wall to wall, floor to ceiling, and then plant the other end into the far wall. They pull several more deploying pylons from their packs, and the sound quickly becomes muffled and muted, as if distant, although the head-pounding, bone-rattling sensation continues.

"Sound mitigators are up, active camo-screen is deployed, that should buy a bit more time. Just make sure the egg heads don't make any phone calls."

cont.
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>Just make sure the egg heads don't make any phone calls."

Must...resist.... the urge...to...adopt.
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>>1675178
*bide our time
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>>1675153

Everything's going so smoothly... I'm just waiting for when the smiths break loose and everything goes to shit
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>>1675153

Your techs quickly find a terminal and jack into the building's systems with their interfaces as the lance burns through the ceiling, reconnecting to the security system of the building. The alarms are still offline, as is the security system, however a number of manual comm logs have been registered by the system.

"They've noticed the guards missing from the elevator." Your clone says. "Looks like someone demanded a security check, which, I would imagine, our network cluster failed to respond to. Looks like they're still trying to figure out what just hit them, but they're not far from figuring it out."

"We're through!" Sam says, and the dripping molten metal gives way to a massive, meter thick yellow hot cylinder of soft, smoldering metal. Sem quickly unfolds a thick tarp and whips it, sending small microthrusters flying into the far wall as he locks several pitons into place on the floor. He clicks a contact on his wrist, and the fabric quickly solidifies, conforming into a rigid wall of folded handholds set at an angle below the still glowing hole in the ceiling, and above the pool of molten metal and slag.

"Alright, let's go, quick!"

Your clones follow Sam as he runs up the tarp with a quick, practiced lunge.

You realize this entrance is the only currently existing way in or out of this part of the facility. If you wish you extend your flies area of observation, now will likely be your only chance.

>Send your flies in to follow the team
>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
>Other
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>>1675223
>Send your flies in to follow the team
They have self-destruct.

But maybe dont send them all?
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>>1675223
>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
The less that can be blamed on the Hive, the better.

Tech we can claim to have sold, but our fly spies are hive agents that we don't want to risk.
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>>1675223
>>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
We have eyes in there.

And we really don't want witnesses to the flies in such close proximity to the action, there's going to be video footage to review later.
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>>1675223
>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
I'd like to bring them in, but the facility is on alert now and the odds of them being spotted are higher than when we tried (and failed) before. Better to have (more) plausible deniability and not risk revealing our fly abilities just yet.
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>>1675217
>I'm just waiting for when the smiths break loose and everything goes to shit

We will do it to escape in the mix of the chaos.
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>>1675223
>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
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>>1675223
>>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
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>>1675223
>>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility
This is a black op under the purview of Kent, no need to risk linking him to the Hive just yet.
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>>1675266
Nobody has any idea the hive can miniaturize its drones to the size of giant wasps yet, so it wouldn't do that automatically.

But having these 'wasps' get seen at crime scene after crime scene would eventually result in someone piecing the puzzle together and realizing the truth. Being seen in an otherwise airtight facility would just be a bigger puzzle pieces than most.
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>>1675318
>Nobody has any idea the hive can miniaturize its drones to the size of giant wasps yet

Thekey word is in the "yet" we will enter a place that is securily locked they have their on oxygen supply. Most likely they could have some very highly advance cameras. So let's avoid the unknow.
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What exactly did Kent know for sure about this place again that wasn't hopeful speculation?

> I happen to know that they hold a number of rather odd government contracts. Namely, AI research contracts that were never quite canceled after the treaty was signed. They were just allowed to expire, but in its place is a nice, big, black hole of money."
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>>1675339
This whole thing could definitely be a big bust. There's still a chance the entire operation is a set-up. That being said, it's too late to change course now.
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>>1675223
>Keep your flies outside to observe the activities of the rest of the facility

Your clones have already given them free access to the majority of the facility. You decide not to push your luck and instead keep them outside the secure area to better observe the actions of the corporate security.

Your clones leap up through the burned hole without much effort, their cybernetics giving them more than enough clearance. The interior is filled with smoke as fire alarms blair, the lights flashing in the ceiling guiding the way to the exits as fans quickly remove the smoke from the room.

"Okay, now where to?" Your clone asks.

"Now we need to find a terminal and get a map of this place." Feng says.

"Easier said than done. " Your tech replies. "The security in here is estimated to be high end, remember? Any attempt at accessing it may at the very least trigger an alarm."

"We already set off plenty of alarms." Sam says.

"No, I mean something nasty, like an Eggbeater, a Brain Freeze program, hell you said they could have an AI in here so I wouldn't put it past them to use a Puppetmaster. Soon as one of us jacks in it could turn our skull into a microwave or worse."

"Hey, my job is to get shot at, yours is to plug your brain into the computer." Sam says. "Buck the fuck up and get us a map."

"You know when this is over I think I know a guy you'd really get along with." Your tech replies. "Either way, we need to find a terminal first."

"Well this is near the entrance, so we should find a security terminal just nearby. Would only make sense for a checkpoint to be near the door." Feng says and he waves the rest of the team through the smoke.

cont.
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>>1675374
Aww yes, a mind-fuck off. Queenie rules at those.
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>"You know when this is over I think I know a guy you'd really get along with."

Dam Lyle's ear must be burning.

also:
>space viking and Lyle having a round of mead
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>>1675374
>"You know when this is over I think I know a guy you'd really get along with."

Clones, clones, ixnay on the ivemind-hay. Bartholomew already said that last thread.
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>>1675388
I will never forget Quennie and Theseus double teaming Decker's mind. Talk about mindblow.
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>>1675388
Mother is not good with computer.

Tech-savvy child is on his own.
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>>1675413
We're awesome at mind-shenanigans, though, and this sounds like it would qalify. Plus we can always upload a theseus instance if necessary or take advantage of Decker's skills.
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>>1675424
Queenie just said in the last thread that computer stuff is totally out of her reach. If it's digital we're way out of our depth, doubly so if they've got a live AI running the software and this facility was built to make AIs.
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>>1675424

Speaking of which, have we got those agent skillsets from decker / anderson / the other crew yet? Can't remember if that's been covered this "turn"
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>>1675424
>>1675435
Well time to pull Decker from the post mind rape coma and make him do some work.
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>>1675406
I thought we were pretty reserved compared to the show Theseus put on for Decker. I imagined that the queen was silently chuckling at Theseus for being so needlessly dramatic but didn't interrupt to allow him his turn at brain interfacing.
>Hmm, going for the cosmic theme Theseus? That's cute.
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>>1675443
Never been statted. We don't even know the name of Anderson's specialization yet.
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>>1675435
We did manage to "help" Decker hide his intentions, break through a firewall, and introduce a Theseus instance while he was being actively nerve-stapled and monitored. We're pretty good at tech, Queenie being modest. We're just nowhere near as good at tech as we are with minds and biology.
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>>1675374
The squad moves in through the smoke as they race opposite the direction of the flashing light patterns.

"Yea yea, your employer or whatever." Sam says to your clones. "Yea, I heard of em. Never met. He was long gone by the time I was out in the field. Difference is on my world you punch your superior, you either get a flogging or you walk to shore."

"That doesn't sound so bad."

"It's an expression. There is no shore on my world. I think the pop culture term would be walk the plank."

"See that?" Your clone asks. The thermal signature ahead through the thick smoke shows several men. You can hear them choke on the smoke as they cough and wheeze. Several gunshots put them down quickly just as they shout out to the figures of your squad. A security terminal, now coated in blood, shows a number of evacuation alerts, with a fire reported in your current area, as well as a structural breech detected along the segment of plating that was cut through to gain access. Surprisingly, you don't see any indication that they have put two and two together just yet, although once the reports from outside and the reports from inside start coming together you suspect that will change rather quickly.

>Have your techs find a map of this section, but don't risk anything else
>Attempt to gain information on the local security systems
>Attempt to shut down all automated security systems and shut down the alarms
>Other (write in)
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>>1675500
>Have your techs find a map of this section, but don't risk anything else
Remember that cyberspace is firmly in the complex's advantage, not ours.
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>>1675500
>Attempt to gain information on the local security systems
We're going in blind here. Sure we'll be fighting an AI, but we can take them. We've got plenty of backup and the odds they'll be able to seriously damage our clones minds is extremely slim.
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>>1675500
>>Have your techs find a map of this section, but don't risk anything else
This entire facility was literally built to produce AIs. Can't afford to get careless in their own domain here, just get maps and bounce, we can handle anything physical it throws at our agents.
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>>1675500
>>Have your techs find a map of this section, but don't risk anything else

As far as information on the security systems we can probably just assume the worst and it'll be fairly accurate
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>>1675500
Maybe on the map we can find the power conduits and just cut the power the old fashioned way?

Then selectively powering the servers we're downloading data dumps from.
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>>1675531
That's clever, hopefully if we can figure out the physical location of the system's hardware or other key infrastructure we can disable it with good ol fashioned brute force.
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>>1675496
So our level in Tech is what? C+?

>>1675447
>Queenie 'ara ara'
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>>1675536
>>1675531
It's pretty likely the servers and security systems will have their own independent power supply. This entire sub-facility is airtight and it even has its own O2 supply. Leaving the power supply as a single point of failure for the servers/security system would be a colossal blunder - although that's becoming par for the course for Union operations.
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>>1675500
>>Attempt to gain information on the local security systems
maybe on the way out we can be more aggressive with the computers; if they've got an AI in here, Theseus will want to know, and the clones are ultimately disposable.
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>>1675500
>Have your techs find a map of this section, but don't risk anything else
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>>1675552
Nobody said said the power conduits had to be from outside the server farm.
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>>1675552
>Union operations.

Yes anon but that is from the Union's governament. This here is a private company they might be more effective in not screwing up.
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>>1675559
Nah acessing a map is less suspicious then doing a info gathering. So when they finaly realize they are being attackex they will start to look for suspicious activity on their server. And i don't want to find out if this A.I. they have here is as good or as fast that Theseus
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>>1675500
>Have your techs find a map of this section, but don't risk anything else

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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>>1675500
>>Attempt to shut down all automated security systems and shut down the alarms
>>Other

Time for Theseus to lend a hand
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Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>1675594
Ded
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Rolled 81 (1d100)

>>1675594
For mother
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>1675594
How much brain damage can an AI-sabotaged map do really?
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Rolled 4 (1d100)

>>1675594
For Mom's Huge Egg sack!
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>>1675616
Mother dammit. Don't worry i know were the recycling is. I will be heading there right now.
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>>1675612
None apparently. We're pretty damn good at mitigating brain damage.

Nice roll.
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>>1675623
Serves you right. Mother is a classy lady! You don't talk about a lady's egg sack like that.
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>>1675668
>You don't talk about a lady's egg sack like that.
Certainly not! in public
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Is anyone else getting worried about our rolls getting lower and lower??
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>>1675708
don't worry about it.
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>>1675708
No, because the gambler's fallacy is a fun joke but a bad thing to actually believe.
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>>1675708
Not really. We tend to rollercoaster.
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A security AI would try to mislabel the map we get probably, right.

No way it's just a
>series seven semi-intelligent data grid
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>>1675761
>yfw is Union's version of Heretic.
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>>1675406
Which thread was that? I want to re-read it.
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>>1675594
Your clone hefts the body of a security guard and tosses him to the floor before plugging the wire in his wrist into the terminal. Your other tech follows short behind, plugging into a slot next to him.

The digital construct of the facility is inordinately complex and vast beyond immediate comprehension. Your clones struggle to collect themselves as the data whirls about them in a torrent of data transfers and information requests. The network itself is like a labyrinth, an endless, shifting fortress of constantly rewiring and recompiling servers and data clusters. It includes an incredibly sophisticated digital-mind interface as well, appearing as a stonework fortress, finely decorated with ornately woven carpeting as server farms appear as endless shelves of books stacked one after another, scattered through the endless halls stretched out in a massive inverted sphere reaching far into the distance. In the center, far above your perception, is a vast, vibrant orb of data as bursts of data run between it and the surface of the network like lightning bolts.

"I think it's safe to say that's an AI." Your tech mutters.

"But does it see us?"

"Doubtful, look." Your clone scans a data stream as it strikes like lightning on one of the vast bookshelf constructs in the distance. "It's still running diagnostics. Those are wetware requests. Demands for data to be entered by a human operator. They must not trust this thing to be fully autonomous, it's having to waste time getting permission from its handlers."

Your tech waves his hand, or what the mind-machine interface has assembled to look like his hand, and several simple bots form in the air before they rush away in a burst of data.

"Where do you think they would hold the map?" Security, or employee assistance?"

Your clones move out, their minds zipping through the shifting corridors as they search the various locations. The security facility is a vast citadel of server towers, forming in the interface like vast spires of stonework and ivory looming over the rest of the facility as searchlights scan the rest of the network. The employee assistance subroutine is like some manner of compact hamlet, like a medieval village built all in a large pile, covered in books and whirling specters of data requests marking where information was currently in use or otherwise unavailable as anything but read-only. A humble looking man dressed as a town crier stands perfectly still in the center of it all, the image marked as an employee assistant and internal search engine.

Your clone appears before it, and plunges his hand into the figure's head, to its simulated dismay as it flickers through a number of pre-designed expressions. The clone pulls out his fist, and holds a small tome in his virtual hands.

"I found it, but it's only for the common areas. Employee lounges, emergency shelters, dormitories. I can make some guesses to the other rooms, but there's no data on them."
cont.
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>>1675829
The question is, did Kent lie and actually want to copy their AI research all along, as the next ultimate weapon?
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I just want to say three things:

1. I'm almost done archive-bingeing and hope to properly participate next time.

2. HQQ is the best damn thing on the Internet.

3. QD, you a god.
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>>1675783
What, do you mean like a gestalt intelligence that was formed from the conglomerated digitized minds of biological life forms? Because we know that this facility is working hard on cybernetically interfacing with the human brain. If such a project was as well funded as their Smith production line it could have an hundreds of human brains hard linked to a server farm...
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>>1675881
>we know that this facility is working hard on cybernetically interfacing with the human brain.

Assuming the Smith conclusion was correct at all.
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
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>>1675898
If it isn't correct Kent is a dead adopted man.

>>1675916
Ah, there you are.
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>>1675829
Huh, seems the union can secure dangerous things competently if given enough time
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>>1675829
Your clone rushes back to follow the other into the security network.

"You find anything yet?"

"Not yet, but I lost a few bots already, so be careful."

The two rush through the corridors of the citadel, rushing past simulated representations of countless amounts of data. Security logs, investigation papers, employee information, all of which is encrypted.

"Well, I think it's safe to say they are up to some illegal shit here. No other reason to have security this tight. Hell most of these security measures are illegal."

"Found it!" Your clone says, and the two rush to the location marked by the simple search script. "Interesting, they went through a lot of trouble to secure this, and there's more than one file."

"It's a decompiled map, arranged by security clearance. Jeez, there are places in this building the employees don't even know exist." The two clones rip through the layers of security codes, quickly dismantling the security before plucking the data from the illusory bookshelf.

"Still missing some data." Your clone says. He reaches in after it, and recoils in pain as flames spew from the line of unburning paper.

"Ah! Damnit!" Your clones examine the server as several small bots obliterate themselves attempting to find a way in.

"The highest clearance level is behind a firewall, no way to get to it without alerting the security system."

"Yea, but chances are that's the stuff we need." Your other replies.

>Take what you can and leave
>Break through the firewall and gather the rest of the map data
>Other (write in)
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>>1675941
>Take what you can and leave
Wonder if there emergency plans include an auto destruct happening if they thought there firewalls were being breached given what this place holds
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>>1675941
>>Break through the firewall and gather the rest of the map data
>>Other (write in)
Is it too late to get some Theseus help?
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>>1675812
Sorry anon i don't remember the which thread it was.
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>>1675881
>What, do you mean like a gestalt intelligence that was formed from the conglomerated digitized minds of biological life forms?

Yes that is exactly what i mean.
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>>1675941
>>Other (write in)
If we'd be tripping the alarms anyway, should we attempt to wrest control of security instead?
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>>1675941
>Break through the firewall and gather the rest of the map data

Security already knows shit's going down and we are good enough at healing brains they won't be able to remotely mind-kill our clones.
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>>1675941
>>Break through the firewall and gather the rest of the map data

Clones grow back
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>>1675916
Dammit motto anon you are late.
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>>1675967
work
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>>1675952
If we pull this off on our own, we can bank the data on this place and trade it to him for his Space Fold drive.
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>>1675962
This, once we trip the alarm it becomes a smash and grab.
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>>1675941
>>Other (write in)
Also, if we're breaking through, maybe we should move to a more opportune location based on what map data we have, and then trigger the alarm when we get the final piece.

Can cover valuable ground while security is still not fully alerted.
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>>1675941
>Break through the firewall and gather the rest of the map data

Think like this. Imagine how easy Dark Souls would be if it had a in game map.
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>>1675977
Lets grab the information we need first, then depending on how that goes and the firewall response we can try or abort an attack on the general security. The map is the priority at the moment.
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>>1675941
Supporting these two
>>1675982
>>1675962

Find the best possible location to be to seize control of security when we trip the alarm. Then try to hack the firewall.
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>>1675971
Oh! Then it's okay.
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>>1675941
>Break through the firewall and gather the rest of the map data

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>1676050
Mother can into technology!
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>1676050
fòr̀ ̴m͘o͢t́her̶
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Rolled 30 (1d100)

>>1676050
For Mother!
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>1676050
f
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>1676050

FOR MOTHER!
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>>1676057
>>1676066
>>1676075
>>1676076
Aaaaarught! I know where the recyclers are....
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>>1676057
>>1676066
>>1676075

oh boy...
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>>1676076
TOO LATE
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>>1676057
>>1676066
>>1676075
MEDIOCRE!

>>1676076
Dammit
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>>1675812
Found it's in the 62.3

Here is a link: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1329637/#p1336893
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>>1676057
>>1676066
>>1676075

Well... Maybe our clones will survive with some memories intact? If they're lucky?

We all knew it was a matter of time until shit hit the fan on this mission. Looks like the "stealth" part of the plan is officially over.
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It's time to go loud.
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>>1676107
>>1676137
Time for !FUN!
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>>1676155
53 isn't a completely god awful fuckup. I mean it's bad, not question about it, but we've done far worse on this quest before and pulled off okay outcomes.

We've just been given an excuse to kick ass.
hopefully we can finish the break-in tonight
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>>1676167
My money is on the fact that this facility goes way underground right? What are the chances that OQ's spore manage to reach this place? I'm really worried she might get her hands into human tech.
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>>1676189
that would be insanely bad luck. A spore pod would have had to have landed nearby undetected (unlikely since we can't even get flies in) and started growing, or the OQ's creep must have spread much more quickly than we had anticipated throughout vast areas of the Path underground. If she has any human tech recovered she "probably" can't get the secrets home she without an advanced relay, which we "should" be able to detect due to her autistic angry loud thinking.
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>>1676208
Yeah you are right. it's very unlikely and she wouldn't be able to get anything. Im still thinking of the deacription of her creep when we were cleaning her filth from Theseu's planet. I'm worried that the longer we take it will spread deeper into the planet's crust. But i guess i'm just veing to paranoid about this.
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>>1676234
>But i guess i'm just veing to paranoid about this.
Is that why you're using a spoiler?
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>>1675973
Knowing Theseus, he would consider even being given access to this system as a significant favor.
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>>1676251
Probably.

Honestly, though, we owe him some favors after he backed us up on the Valen jailbreak and on Nowhere. We should give him at least some of our repair tech and the advanced shields in gratitude. Besides, anything that makes him stronger militarily will make him that much more useful against the OQ.
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>>1676256
And Heretic by extension
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>>1676256
Agreed.
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>>1676256
>>1676261
>>1676267

I wonder if the Commonwealth would turn down an introduction to Theseus? Fighting Scavs is good clean fun to bond with.
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>>1676247
Yes.
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>>1676279
We can just ask. The worst thing they could say would be a no.
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>>1676050
"See if you can isolate it, and I'll crack it open." Your clones manipulate the swirling torrent of data, sending packets through to test the firewall as walls of data form around it. The aura of fire seems to ebb, then crack under the force of your clone's assault. Flames lick at the surrounding books as chunks of data packets fly out into the aether of quantum cyberspace, their data lost forever in the sea of superposition.

The firewall breaks open, sending chunks of security software scattering into fragmented chunks of inoperable and incomplete data pathways as your clone pulls the file from its shelf. He sifts through it with his mind, the pages flying open as he searches the contents. The data within is scattered and jumbled, and the details about it encrypted.

"This is it. This place is one hell of an R&D department." You look through the mind's eye of your clone, sifting through the data as your thinkers attempt to assist in decrypting the data and match it up with the jumbled pieces of information making up the map itself. This facility holds all manner of projects and facilities set under military contract, all of which held in their own firewalls, although the reference data is available and only partially encrypted.

[Project Aegis]
[Prometheus Initiative]
[Star Hound Project]
[Project Phantom]
[Morning Star Initiative]
[Operation Moonraker]

The data files are simple headers, leading through a vast array of other, even more potent firewalls far in the distance. You ponder if it would be worth attempting to break through them when your image becomes blurred. The data becomes unclear, fading rapidly as it dissipates. A bolt of lightning strikes the chamber, sending the books bursting into a flaming cloud of dissipating qubits as some entity flash-wipes the entire server. Your clone recoils in pain as his arm looses cohesion, rapidly disintegrating into strands of neural interface software code like an unravelling ragdoll.

In the dissipating mist of rapidly purging corrupted data, a figure quickly forms as your clone scans an incoming data packet, and a large one at that.

[Labyrinth.EVI]

your clones are knocked away from a sudden burst of data, their minds forced out of the rapidly dissolving space as the server is torn apart, the connections severed systematically and it's held data obliterated. From the expanding void of emptiness you see the figure taking shape, rapidly unpacking itself from the humble data packet as its simulated form loads into the perception of your clones. A set of massive horns grows into the air as a large bull-like creature stands up on its hind legs. The data around it quickly implodes into nothing as it wipes the server clean, thousands of tiny search bots swarming around it like locust searching for and consuming any stray data relating to its targets.

cont.
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>>1676279
I doubt the Commonwealth would have a problem with it. You know the old saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Theseus might not like it if he's anticipating more friendly relations with the Union soon, though.
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>>1676291
[Operation Moonraker]
Dammit, that was the psi cannon wasn't it?
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>>1676301
Yup.

Damn, these guys are into some deep shit.
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>>1676291
>[Project Phantom]
>[Operation Moonraker]
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>>1676291
>[Operation Moonraker]
I think our agents just might have to stick around to get the files on this one.
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>>1676291
>WHEN YOU TELL HU-MANS STOP
>THEY DO IT MOAR.
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Possible Worst case scenario is that there may be a shard in this place, being studied by that ai

Max Panic?
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[Project Aegis]
[Prometheus Initiative]

[Star Hound Project]
Canderoun maybe?

[Project Phantom]
This is sounds a lot like the Mirage. Which means Killinger is funding this place. If it's really talking about it

[Morning Star Initiative]
>Lucifer's (Satan) name before he rebeled against god was Morning Star

[Operation Moonraker]
Attemp to retrieve something from the earths moon. Maybe Psionic Cannon blue print or more crystals?


God dammit Union when i think you can't be doing something more stupid then Nowhere and Djinn i find your fucking futa loli porn stired in you computer harddrive.
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>>1676309
>>1676310
You know, these are the kind of black-ops "We told you to never do this you fucking idiots!" type projects we could probably do a full on overt Hive military intervention for and not even have to apologize afterwards. It's in keeping with our already established diplomatic stance on the issue. Sure they may link us to the "terrorists" but frankly "project moonraket" alone is vastly more valuable than keeping a few underground contacts.
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>>1676319
Isn't this a Smith factory? One of these has to be related to the Smiths.
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>>1676314
If there's a shard here being studied by an AI it could give the Void a massive unanticipated edge in any attempts it makes to corrupt Theseus...
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>>1676291
Well at least the Thinkers have backups of that data...right?
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>>1676325
It seems the smith was a sideproduct of this place , seems the main thing here was using this shackled AI to help in research in certain projects
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>>1676319
>>1676325

Yeah star hound is obviously canderoun, we know what moonraker is already, I think phantom = mirage is pretty good guess as well. Just leaves three possibilities for the smith project. I would guess prometheus probably?
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>The modern concept of doing something "under someone's aegis" means doing something under the protection of a powerful, knowledgeable, or benevolent source
>doing something under the protection of a powerful, knowledgeable, or benevolent source

Please let this be just a composition of Union higher that back up all this shit and not void god cult.
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>>1676330
We NEED to get Theseus in here to either free or destroy this AI.
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>>1676325
>>1676330
>That feeling when the Union had so many ultra-secret black ops Smiths don't even make the top six.

>>1676328
We should still have the data in theory. Maybe Theseus can help decrypt?
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>>1676325
[Prometheus Initiative]

i guess this is the one related to Smiths creation etc..
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One of these projects must be the one where we rescued lee from
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>>1676334
A shackled AI doesn't necessarily "want" to be freed. It wants what it's programmed to want.
That being said, we can add a complete dossier of all these secret projects to our list of demands to the Union brass under threat of we nuke the capital and rape their brains for the information otherwise.

>>1676341
Likely
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So the AI is using the Minotaur as it identity?
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>>1676343
Good point. Where's the one for researching psionics?

Maybe it's Prometheus. That's the myth about stealing tech/knowledge from the gods, or having it gifted by a rogue god. So a general theme of obtaining fabulous powers or knowledge.

The more I talk about it the less I like it.
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>>1676334
Dunno how much help he'll be right now, but he should definitely be informed. He was originally made by the Union, right? I dunno how much was left intact when he escaped, but considering his wild success, i'd be surprised if they didn't use the work on him as a base for this guy.

>>1676356
as an avatar at least, we'll have to see if/how heself itentifies as something else.
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[Project Aegis]
People who are fubding all this bullshit. or more likely the research in Skyl artifacts

[Prometheus Initiative]
Smiths

[Star Hound Project]
Canderoun maybe?

[Project Phantom]
This is sounds a lot like the Mirage. Which means Killinger is funding this place. If it's really talking about it

[Morning Star Initiative]
>Lucifer's (Satan) name before he rebeled against god was Morning Star
This is the real name for the group creating the Thartarus Gate at Nowhere?


[Operation Moonraker]
Attemp to retrieve something from the earths moon. Maybe Psionic Cannon blue print or more crystals?
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>>1676370
Whatever all this is, we need to know more. These projects are far more valuable to learn about than revealing we have some black market contacts.

I suggest that in a in a day or so our speaker requests to meet with Morgan and "requests" he provide a full technical briefing on all (or at least the most interesting of) the aforementioned projects in the name of trans-dimensional security. In order to save humanity we will need complete details on this foolish Union research to determine just how far along the path to damnation they have progressed and what steps we need to take to avert disaster. Failure to provide information will compel the Hive to seek the most aggressive containment measures we have access to. We need not add that lying to the Hive would be a very bad idea.

We only need to request a meeting with Morgan if we can't loot all the technical data now ourselves, though.
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>>1676291
So we've got

>[Project Aegis]
Power Armor or robotics

>[Prometheus Initiative]
Smiths obviously

>[Star Hound Project]
Canian research

>[Project Phantom]
Mirage/Stealth tech research

>[Morning Star Initiative]
Psionics?

>[Operation Moonraker]
Psicannon likely
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>>1676382
I know that we're powerful and they're doing stupid stuff, but if we overtly threaten them things are going to get nasty. They are allowed to have secrets. Implicit threats are appropriate only when we have concrete proof of stupidity that threatens more than just themselves. All we have at the moment are project names, a strong suspicion of a shackled AI, and a whole lot of guesswork.
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>>1676438
>[Morningstar Initiative]

Reminder that the fucking void generator was in the shape of a goddamn pentagram.
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>>1676438
You know one of these might actually be anti-ai research (the stated purpose of the facility and funding). Maybe that's [Project Aegis]?

>>1676445
It's possible the "Tartarus Reactor" and "Morning Star Initiative" are two descriptions of the same project. We can't know for certain, though.
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>>1676448
if that is anti-ai research, Theseus would love to get his digital hands on that. More reason I wish we had linked him in somehow
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>>1676448
I'm thinking it's two different projects to the same end. It's not unheard of to have different agencies and corporations in competition with one another, the YF-23 vs YF-22, Glock vs Sig, et al.
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>>1676449
We can still probably bring him in (hopefully) through the rapidly melting cerebellums of our agents.

Then we will get to see (and participate in) an AI FIGHT!
With any luck our agents will be able to link directly to the Theseus instances on 01, otherwise the massive computing power of the shackled AI here will probably crush any foothold Theseus manages to make. If Theseus can access his server farms that will be another question entirely.
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>>1676449
Last time a Theseus instance died because the Union managed to sneak a A.A.I. program on him. And this place is were they research the A.A.I. so it's obvious they would have the most recent A.A.I. here.
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whats the probability of purging all this knowledge? I mean if we cant get it we should destroy it, and the servers have to be physically held somewhere
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>>1676462
That was an A.A.I. program running against the relatively simple diplomacy instance Theseus had on the satellite. If we can interface with a Theseus military attack instance on 01 and all the massive server farms there (through using our clones as a data uplink) my money is definitely on Theseus beating the shackled AI or at a minimum forcing a draw.

>>1676468
That would be bad. Hopefully we can keep all data from being destroyed.
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>>1676470
if you cant take what we need/want then you deny your enemy the resource, and moon raker was the code name for the psi-cannon that destroyed Luna. and that shit is dangerious to everyone. ergo we don't get, we blow it up. I'm not saying we shouldn't try to recover the data, but we shouldn't leave here while they have the data
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>>1676474
They could have redundant backups at other locations. But agreed that this information is too dangerous for human hands without Hive guidence.
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>>1676291
I don't think we're going to finish this mission tonight either.
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>>1676476
its a possibility. and for once adoption is not a viable option in the time frame we have so this is a bit more difficult.

the AI is good, but could it stop a trogon horse from a master hacker? probably
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>>1676483
>it will ne simple anons thought
>Just go inside grab the untel and get out
mayne we get some good info tech to Theseus
>All this happening
>Mother dammit Union!!!
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>>1676291
"Security subroutine, disconnect!" Your clone shouts, the other launches a number of scripts to attempt to slow down the virtual intelligence. The swarm of bots quickly consume the volley of scripts as it lunges forward, its own code wiping everything it touches. Your clone is still reeling from the neural shock as the virtual intelligence swipes its massive claws over your clone's representation as it shatters like glass, the shards quickly evaporating into the quantum aether.

Sparks erupt from the terminal as your clone reels back, the neural connection in his wrist simmering with smoke and the smell of burning flesh. The link snaps out from the terminal and reels back into its port with a soft slap of chitinous bone snapping into place as the clone flies back into the wall, his body shaking violently as his eyes roll back in his head. Your other clones are quick to move around him as they force open his mouth and push his tongue down with a pulled taught rifle strap to prevent him from biting it off as the seizure continues.

Your other clone rips the plug out of the terminal just as smoke rises from between the keys and a small simmering fire grows from within the plastic of the terminal's projectors. He falls back against the wall as he grips his head in agony.

"The hell was that?"

"Fuck you think it was?" Your tech says. "Goddamn AI is running security in this place!"

"Well did you find out where we need to go?" Feng asks.

"Somewhat. We got the map, but the classified areas are labeled by the project they're running and we didn't get very far into decrypting the data before the whole damn server got wiped."

Your other tech shivers on the ground as your parasite attempts to regulate its overactive nervous system. Hiromi stands over him at a cautious distance.

"Is he going to be alright?"

"Not sure yet, but we need to get moving either way. We stay here we'll get overrun eventually." Your clone says. "We don't know what project is what, but at least we know where they are, so we can at least guess."

You examine the map. The facility is quite large, easily the size of an office building in itself contained within the vast arcology of the Senticom building. The network is heavily distributed through the secure facility, with dedicated servers built into each largely isolated section. In order to get to the proper data core, you'll need to find the right office and get inside. Which project you need, however, is not clear.

>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
>Search the labs dedicated to the Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom and Operation Moonraker
>Other
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>>1676498
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom and Operation Moonraker
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>>1676498
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
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>>1676498
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative

Moonraker is probably not good either, but the Morning Star Initiative gives me a reaaaal bad feeling
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>>1676498
>phantom and moonraker

these sort of sound like James bond films
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>>1676498
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom and Operation Moonraker
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>>1676498
>Search the labs dedicated to the Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative

Something kinda ticks with the Prometheus. Gave fire to humans? Might be where the Smith came from. Shame there ain't no Hephaestus Project, that's definitely where the Smiths are from.
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>>1676498
>Search the labs dedicated to the Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative
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>>1676498
Uh guys aren't the Void gods watching us? Can we touch of thing involving the Psi-canon with triggering the end game event?

i Will go for this one

>Search the labs dedicated to the Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative
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>>1676522
i think Hound might be the A.I. since it seems he's the one takibg care of security here. And Prometheus is the Smiths.
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>>1676498
>Search the labs dedicated to the Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative
Mmm, sounds right.
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>>1676538
>>1676532
>>1676523
>>1676522
Do we reeeeally want to go after the Smiths right away?
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>>1676537
The only name we know is associated with the AI is Labyrinth though, and its avatar was a minotaur.
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>>1676537
Eh, could be an unrelated attack AI that tracks you down wherever you are.
Like the Hounds of Tindalos.
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>>1676540
>Security activated
>AI on alert
>We probably know more about it than the Humans anyway

Yeah, I don't really see what we'd gain from learning about Moonraker.
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>>1676532
The Union doesn't know how to build the psi cannon. Literally all it has is raking up the loose crystals that were left floating in orbit.

The project is incredibly ignorant and therefore safe, but it should also know the precise number of crystals and their locations.
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>>1676545
We can sabotage it tho
>>1676548
>Letting them have crystals
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>>1676540
They know we acessed the files i guess the first one we get to will be the one with enough data. And since this joint is blowed we might want to be on this guys good side so we can invade other branches controled by this same interprise..

But i say that after we have done it we go to the moon baler although i'm afraid that might make the void more active.
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>>1676540
Do want to bet on us having time to hit two?

That AI probably knows exactly where we are and what we accessed.
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>>1676498
>>Other
Search all of them. Keep retreating from and attacking the AI while logging back in for as long as our clones brains are intact. Have our tech oriented clones constantly swapping the jobs of keeping the AI busy, searching for relevant data, and attempting to beam in an instance of Theseus.
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>>1676558
Yeah because last time ae got greedy the void gods started to notice us.
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>>1676558
We probably need a Q-Comm of somekind to link up if we want Theseus help at this point. I think channeling him through our clones brains will fry them

>>1676565
>>1676565
So?
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>>1676550
...What do you think you're replying to?
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>>1676570
What aren't I replying of to?
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>>1676565
What's that supposed to mean? The only way for the void to notice the hive is if we personally mess with a void crystal or happen to be near an inconvenient hell gate. There is no way that viewing data about them through an indirect medium could cause them to enter into physical space just to stop us.
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>>1676585
Shouldn't you be voting for Moonraker if you want a verifiable crystals headcount.
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>>1676571
No one said "let them have crystals" dumb dumb.
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>>1676498
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom and Operation Moonraker

>>1676588
Oops.
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>>1676580
My mistake i confuded the time we failed to capture a OQ's relay with Nowhere. I think i will go sleep.
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>>1676595
confused*
Yup i'm going to my bed. I will read the rest later.
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>>1676597
Sleep is for the weak man, the sleep deprivation just makes this quest better.
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>>1676498
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative

-Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative.
These are probably anti-ai and Smiths. They're bad, but not the highest priority.

-Project Phantom and Operation Moonraker
High priority as they probably deal with Void crystal fuckery. However, we already know or suspect what they are (the psi cannon and stealth ship) so we'd learn relatively little from that

-Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
We don't know what these are, but they sound very, very bad. They probably involve crystals or other skyl artifacts. Investigate with highest priority.
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>>1676498
>Search the labs dedicated to the Star Hound Project and the Prometheus Initiative

Your clones heft up your injured tech as he shivers in a fugue state as your thinkers attempt to recover the memories and rewire the damaged neurons of the clone's brain. The group quickly make their way to the designated lab. The facility is surprisingly large, with a micro factory set at the base of a large materials lab filled with various machining devices and sensor equipment. The door is sealed and quite solid, but your brawler pulls it open without too much trouble. The lab itself overlooks a small warehouse filled with industrial equipment and a fully fitted manufactory. Strange chunks of materials are held in various cases in various states of disassembly as computer terminals and machining devices hum and churn with activity as tests continue on without their operators.

"Where is everyone?" Hiromi asks.

"Must be the fire alarm." Feng says. "Everyone must have either evacuated through an alternate entrance or locked themselves in the panic rooms."

"We can't be this lucky." Your clone says as he walks up to a terminal. "Bastards ran in a hurry, they didn't even log off." He says as he quickly runs his hand over the keyboard, searching through the terminal's archives. Your other clones clear the room, searching for any potential threats.

"Son of a bitch!" You hear Sam shout. He is holding his helmet with his hand as he stumbles back, gripping a table for balance. The sudden noise sends your clones spinning on their heels as they bring their guns at the ready. Sam adjusts his helmet and looks over the area.

"The fuck was that?" He asks as he waves his axe ahead of him. It fades, like a shimmering mirage on the horizon, the image vanishing and then rematerializing as he waves the axe head back and forth. Feng walks up to the phenomenon and adjusts a terminal as several emitters of some kind set in the ceiling flicker with a faint glow that quickly fades, and a metal pole materializes, running from the ceiling to the floor.

"Some kind of cloaking tech?" He asks.

"Yea. I got the paperwork here." Your tech says. "The Prometheus Initiative. Looks like it's an ongoing salvage project. They've been studying scraps from recovered Void Cutters. Actually, it looks like this team has been working real close with the Project Phantom team. This lab is for materials testing, looks like they were running some kind of stress test for the other lab."

"So what, it's a glorified salvage job?" Sam asks.

"Oh fuck." Your clone says suddenly as he flips through files. "It may be a salvage job but some of this salvage is some crazy shit here. They have Void Cutter hull fragments, sensor recordings, and some kind of weapons prototype."

"Seriously? Where is it?" Sam asks.

"Off site. It doesn't say, just that it's held at a weapons testing facility with a list of specs on it. Goddamn, look at this."
cont.
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>>1676617
Well shit, they have Void Cutter tech. God damn. And that means they probably have crystals from them too. Well then...
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>>1676617
>a weapon made of void cutter crystals

no..it can't be...
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>>1663728
>The thread should still be up sunday so either way we should be able to finish up the infiltration at the usual time.

>we should be able to finish
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>>1676617
Fug, guess I voted too late
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>>1676623
>>1676628
Don't be panicky.

Any crystals they possess cannot possibly be from void cutters, because the crystals are the parts that attempt to prevent capture automatically sucking it all back into slipspace.

If the weapon is related, they'd probably try to recreate what's called the neutrino beam, even though it probably is secretly psionic based somehow.

>>>/tg/42340351
>“The cutters are made of a non-reflective material that resists attempts to scan them. When destroyed, their drive swallows most of the debris up, but sometimes a chunk falls free.

>>>/tg/36072901
>no matter how damaged the ship appears to be, it is always observed engaging its drive moments after receiving damage, even if the damage appears to have caused critical damage, or even destroyed the hull itself. It is believed the drive itself contains a failsafe to accomplish this.

>The primary, and as yet recorded only weapon of the Void Cutter is a single projected energy beam mounted to the nose of the Cutter's small hull. While no sample has been obtained, its observed effects are consistent with a concentrated neutrino beam. Shields have been observed to have minimal effect, while armor shows little to no mitigating effects against it. From collected battle data, it has shown to never exceed a firing rate of one three second beam being fired every ten seconds, and an effective range of fifty thousand kilometers. It is unknown if the beam itself is capable of harming a target beyond this range, but it has never been observed as being fired past it.
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>>1676616
There is a video, your clone resizes the projection, sending the display out of the screen for the rest of the squad to see. The time stamp on the test indicates the footage is from late last year, and the facility is clearly different. The footage lists it as a Union weapons testing facility with the seal of the BFI and the Union Research and Development Administration tucked tightly in the corner of the footage. In center screen several mechanical armatures secure a large sheet of what appears to be a small patch of starship armor grade polymer. It has the sheen of a diamond filament integration, and is easily a meter thick. Ahead of it is another armature holding fast a large, roughly cylindrical device that glows with a faint blue hue, as if it were emitting some manner of Cherenkov radiation. Several sensor readouts running along the side of the recording confirm. The blue glow gives the shaft of the cylinder an almost ghostly appearance as the camera struggles to get a crisp image, the device faintly blurred with static from the radiation.

Several humans, each clad in thick radiation suits, perform some readings of the device, prodding it with instruments before they quickly move away, waving an all clear signal to others outside the camera's view as they move to join them. A moment later the static sharply increases, and along the base of the cylindrical device a pulsing purple of Hawking radiation begins to glow brighter and brighter as radiation levels sharply spike on the sensors. Suddenly, a vibrant beam of energy lashes out from the device, and the panel of starship armor instantly begins to boil, its surface ripping apart as if it were ashes in a kiln, chunks of metal float away as they dissolve, but don't burn. The sensors detect very little heat, at least, not enough to account for any of the apparent outright sublimation of the polymer armor, which is graded well beyond the reentry heat threshold for any habitable world. The beam dissolves through the plate in less than a second, and then continues through it, rapidly dissolving the wall beyond it as it digs through a reinforced titanium and lead layered safety block with equally little apparent effort, then the steel wall beyond that, then the cement structure beyond that.

The radiation continues to build as the glow becomes more vibrant and its pulsing increases in pace. The sensors show a constant and exponential rate of neutrino emissions until, after three seconds of continuous firing, the beam shuts down, the glowing subsiding entirely as the radiation simply stops. There is nothing left of the target, and behind it the beam has penetrated the target, a five meter safety block of lead and titanium, and then another two and a half meters of cement and steel behind that. The video ends abruptly with a placecard and a loud beep before cutting off entirely.

"The fuck was that?" Feng asks.

"Not sure, and according to these files, they're not sure either."
cont.
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>>1676666
Its probably based on the void cutter.

Remember, when we poked shards from Lyle's ship, it also unfolded with a bunch of radiation and erased our ceiling.

We had a much bigger effect, but that's a given with how our tachyon tech is leagues ahead of the humies.

We probably could replicate that gun just with what we have, except for it *being void's literal shit*.
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>>1676664
I want it.
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>>1676664
"So what, that's a prototype or.."

"No, actually it looks like it's the main gun of a recovered Void Cutter. It doesn't say how they got it."

"Well what else is in there?" Feng asks. Your clone looks back at the archives.

"Well, most of this stuff is just running tests on shit they pulled off a Void Cutter. Otherwise, there's this Star Hound thing. Damn, according to this they've got enough canderon in this place to start up their own shipyard."

"What for?" Feng asks.

"Uh... Synthesizing, looks like. Looks like they were doing a lot of physiology tests on Canians too, for some reason. Oh, they even have a mission statement for this one. 'To develop a method or methods by which canderon may be artificially synthesized or naturally induced in a controlled and industrial scalable manner.' So, they want to be able to make canderon without having to mine it."

"Huh." Feng says. "Well that would certainly be a gold mine, but it's not exactly major dirt."

"Well that's all that's here. Reverse engineering and exotic matter research. Maybe we should try a new lab."

"Well we know what the Phantom is now, so that takes some of the guess work out of it." Sam says.

>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom, the stealth tech research project, and Operation Moonraker
>Other
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>>1676664
GIMME.
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>>1676676
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
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>>1676676
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
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>>1676664
Thats the work of a shard
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom, the stealth tech research project, and Operation Moonraker
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
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>>1676676
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom, the stealth tech research project, and Operation Moonraker
The problem with void cutters isn't how to build them, it's the quantities of power involved in running one. Theseus already calculated that it would be impossible to use without a truly limitless source of power, or, a void crystal. Without one reproducing one is effectively impossible.

Now, the moonraker and possible presence of more crystals, now that's critical to us.
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I wonder if there's enough data in the Prometheus Initiative files for us to unlock new research, we do have specs on it.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>1676676
Unknown (and smiths) or possible psicannon.
I'll dice roll. [1] for Aegis/Morning Star, [2] for Phantom/Moonraker.
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>>1676676
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom, the stealth tech research project, and Operation Moonraker
Gotta jack all their fucking crystals.
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative

I'm starting to think this may not be a smith lab nearly so much as a void-research lab. Let's see what these reveal before
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
Well that narrowed it down.
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>>1676691
While these are critical to us, we already know about them and can pressure the Union heavily on them (and have already been doing so).

We have no idea what the other projects are (one of them might be the Smith?), but there seems pretty good odds they'd involve the Void Crystals too. If they hold out on us with our primary negotiation demand even more than the Expanse (our demand they hand over all crystals is more important) we need to know.
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>>1676712
That's why we need to know everything pertaining to project moonraker. That will tell us if they pulled more than one of crystal from the moon, and then we will be able to call them out the next time we ask them and pretend the one at Nowhere was their only available crystal.
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>>1676717
We already know they have more than the one at nowhere, there was one in the mirage and we found they been occasionally finding them in void cutter wreckage as part of some plan by the void shards
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>>1676676
>>Search the labs dedicated to Project Phantom, the stealth tech research project, and Operation Moonraker
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>>1676717
We're probably going to stay in these labs as long as possible anyway. Timetables, Smiths, and survival be damned this data is way, way too valuable to leave behind for the sake of terrorists and clones.

We might be able to negotiate with the Union regarding Moonraker, et-al because we already know about that stuff. We can offer goodies and make threats to ensure the crystals from the Moon project are returned and we have ways to ensure (or they believe we have ways to ensure) that lies would be detected.

However, we can't negotiate or make demands with them regarding omnious things like the Morning Star Initiative because we don't know them. They should be investigated more closely. If Morning Star is secretly investigating a Void cult, for example, we need to know.
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>>1676676
Does it take too much time to download all the lab's data core anyway?
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative
Time to see what Lucifer is up to
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>>1676721
>we found they been occasionally finding them in void cutter wreckage
No they didn't.

And we have no way of knowing they're not lying to us about the quantity of crystals later, pressure or no pressure, without breaking into their data banks.
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>>1676727
We do have a bottle neck of the clone downloading it.
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>>1676664
I wonder if we made a kind of fill in foam paste if we could mitigate some damage from a cutter beam. Since it seems to only be stopped by depth of material instead of thickness and lacks heat, some kind of self reassembling smart material and some self setting foam liquid might work wonders as damage mitigation measures.
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>>1676676
>Search the labs dedicated to Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative

"Well let's hurry." Sam says. "I don't like how quiet this place is. We've met two guards so far. That sound right to you?"

"Well, there was a fire alarm." Feng says as the team quickly exits the lab.

"Bullshit. You know that's bullshit. The workers may leave for that but where are the auto turrets, the combat drones, armed guards, mines, anything? This is too easy."

"Don't jinx it." Your clone says as he punches in the door. The next lab is held in what could almost be considered its own apartment. Within is a hallway leading further into the lab, while on each side is a door leading to a small kitchen on one side and a dormitory on the other. The hall opens up to a sizable common area, fully furnished more akin to an apartment than any kind of laboratory. There is a doorway leading out the back labeled simply "Aegis" set beneath a stylized depiction of a helmet, while on the other side of the room is another, unmarked door. Your clone readies his sledge to pry open the door, but it slides open at his approach.

"Still don't think it's too easy?" Sam says.

They move in through the door one by one to a moderately sized workshop. It is finely maintained, the equipment clearly kept as clean as is possible, while various cybernetic devices are scattered over several tables half assembled and splayed over the countertops. On the far wall is a set of armatures fastened tightly to a metallic humanoid shape. It is an unpainted, polished metal with only a number of warning inscriptions and caution labels set along its limbs, and the torso is held open to reveal an empty, padded interior covered in a number of devices with the general appearance of a mixture of control systems, neural interfaces, and medical devices set between layers of synthetic muscle fibers. Along the outside, overlapping plates of metal armor coat the figure in an intricate pattern, offering a perfect mixture of flexibility and armor coverage over all of the needed areas.

"The hell is that?" Feng asks. "Some kind of new armor?"

"These are drop suit interfaces." Sam says as he points out the set of neural ports along the shoulders. "Never seen one this small before."

Your clones continue to examine the area, and find another unmarked door leading out the other side of the room. It opens as your clones approach, revealing a rather spartan room within connecting to both the Aegis workshop and the common room. The ceiling appears to be some manner of aquarium, the lighting above rippling in waves over the rest of the room as various exotic creatures swim by. On the wall is a computer terminal providing a long readout of security data. Your clones aim their weapons as they rush into the room, finding a narrow row of computers lined up along the outside of a glass wall where the man looks over the wall of data, manipulating it with the occasional twitch of the hand.

cont.
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>>1676731
Hmmm, well if they're stupid (and/or we provide enough pressure) we can try to get the intelligence secretary in the same room as a speaker and mentally probe him for answers to our questions. We could try the same with Morgan, but he's less likely to have that information. Alternately, we could attempt to ambush, blackmail, adopt, or otherwise compromise council members "cough, Killinger, cough" to compel them to reveal information on their black operations.
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>>1676740
>Your clones aim their weapons as they rush into the room, finding a narrow row of computers lined up along the outside of a glass wall where the man looks over the wall of data, manipulating it with the occasional twitch of the hand.
Ah shit. That sounds like a Smith.
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>>1676740
>Medium Carapace equivalent
Looks like they are following closing behind us.
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>>1676746
If that's true, either our Brawler or Sam should hop into that if this dude is a Smith
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>Hive Queen Quest 64.8 The Hive's agents infiltrate deep within a corporate facility, but not is all as it seems.
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>>1676746
QD has mentioned before that the Union has been trying their hand at producing them, but so far muscle suits like our medium carapace have been limited to big shot defense expos where everyone shows off their costly, experimental stuff. The Union just doesn't have a sufficient grasp of nano-engineering to mass produce them like we can.
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>>1676740
"The glass is bulletproof." The man says calmly. He waves his hand and the data on the screens wipe away, and he turns to you.

"Told you it was too easy." Sam says. Your clone rushes to a door in the glass wall as he holds his plasma shotgun at the ready.

"Hands in the air!" Your clone shouts.

"Please, I have excellent hearing, you don't need to yell." The man says as he slowly raises his hands. "The door is unlocked, by the way. You don't need to go bashing it in, just open it like a civilized person."

Your tech quickly finds a terminal and examines its status.
"This is it." He says. "This is the computer core. The whole sub-facility security system is run from here."

"Alright, let's get the data and start the upload." Feng says. "Find the comm relay."

"On it." Your clone says.

"If you're looking for the Q-comms, it's actually right here." The man in the room says. "Right behind me, in fact."

"And who the fuck are you?" Sam asks.

"My apologies, where are my manners." He says back. "My name is Adam Smith, and I am the system administrator of this little facility. Among other things. Very few people can be trusted to work in this facility, so I tend to have many titles." He pulls his sleeve and examines a watch on his wrist expectantly.

"I said hands up!" Your clone shouts again.

"Yes, yes. Christ you don't need to yell." Adam says as he raises his hands again. "So what brings you here? We don't exactly have visitors often."

>Charge into the room to access the relay
>Hack into the archives first and search through the data
>Other (write in)
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>>1676754
>>Other (write in)
Ask are you happy mister Smith?(Start mind probing if we can)
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>>1676757
Our clones don't have Medium relays.
I've said to get them but nooo.
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>>1676757
There is no drone here, nothing that has a moderate relay, don't be ridiculous anon. We can't do shit.
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>>1676757
Dude, it's a Smith. He's entirely cybernetic - there are no fleshy parts with Tachyons for us to study. Even if we could read him we'd need a speaker or other drone with a moderate relay here to do so or a parasite. Not only do we have neither of those, they wouldn't work anyway.
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>>1676754
>Other
Abort NOW, its a freaking SMITH being Polite, that means our OP just got fucked over hard
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>>1676754
>>Hack into the archives first and search through the data

It is of course too easy. He wants this out for some reason.
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>>1676761
That relay must have been sabotaged alos
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>>1676754
>>Charge into the room to access the relay
Engage the smith with our brawlers and Sam while the rest of the team handles the relay.
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>>1676754
>Other
"So either your under policy not to resist intrusion Or your cybernetics up to the eyeballs and beyond. How about you let us do what we want or we introduce a thesus instance into this place so he can eat your pet AI"
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>>1676754
>Hack into the archives first and search through the data
>"Just getting information. The fate of local civilization might depend on it."
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>>1676760
>there are no fleshy parts with Tachyons for us to study
He has a brain in the jar he calls a head.
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>>1676754
>He pulls his sleeve and examines a watch on his wrist expectantly.

He's STALLING!
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>>1676760
>Dude, it's a Smith. He's entirely cybernetic - there are no fleshy parts with Tachyons for us to study.
It... has a brain.
An augmented brain but still a fleshy brain, we can mind probe him and i expect his brain augs would break during the probe.
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>>1676766
No humans have allied with Theseus, it would be ridiculous to even mention that as a possibility if you aren't giving away 'hello hive agent here'.
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>>1676769
yep
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>>1676754
>>Hack into the archives first and search through the data
>Charge into the room to access the relay

Why not both? Have one of our techs attempt to hack into the archives while our brawlers and other clones engage the Smith. If the Smith manages to make it to our tech and kills him we'll still have a backup (whose job it will be to stay away from the fight) to search the archives later.

>>1676761
We expected there might be a Smith guarding it. It's WAY too fucking late to abort. Either we kill the Smith now or none of us will get home (or more importantly, get the information we need).
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>>1676769
Bingo.
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>>1676771
So your saying that no human has copied a thesus istance onto a memory stick and used it as a terrorist threat device?

The people in this verse have no imagination.
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>>1676770
Oh, I thought they had uploaded the brain to cybernetics even. If it's just a heavily augmented brain and not something that's been entirely replaced by computers then yes, we should be able to scan and disable it easily if we had a medium relay here. Which, again, we don't have.
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>>1676769
>He's STALLING!
Oh definitely. The real question is, what is he stalling for? Is it backup in the form of military support? More Smiths? Is he just waiting for a data purge to complete?

We need to engage him now anyways, but there shouldn't be any harm in having one of our two techs (yay redundancy) plug into the archive while everyone else fights.
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>>1676754
>>1676767
Changing to>>1676773
Different jobs for different clones.
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>>1676754
Ok we need access to the Q-Comm so we can call in Theseus to do the hacking for us
>Hack the Q-Comm

If this is about to turn into a Smith fight will need either Sam or the Brawler to get the Aegis suit
>Equip the Aegis suit
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>>1676775
Theseus infections are invisible 99% of the time, silent, and nondestructive.

>"Ooh, watch out, I may or may not have infected your computer with a virus that is impossible to detect without sending your computer to a government anti-AI lab to run a lengthy, expensive deep scan on."

I mean how would terrorists even know if they have a Theseus instance in a particular USB drive anyway? Pray "COME, LORD THESEUS, ENTER THINE VESSEL" on SpaceChan really loud and hope he listens?
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>>1676754
>Hack into the archives first and search through the data

Please roll 1d100, best of 3.

It's half past five in the morning right now, and I do have more inventory to take in the morning, so I think we will need to stop here. Once the inventory is taken at work I should be able to get a mid week thread fit in at some point to finish this up before next sunday, which will finally be a new day.
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>1676783
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Rolled 12 (1d100)

>>1676783
FOR MOTHER!
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>1676783
For the Wormstar!
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>>1676786
Good enough, hopefully?
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>>1676781
Supporting these even if it's too late to

Hope Sams dropsuit plugs are compatible
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>>1676783
So, is the Project Aegis and the Morning Star Initiative just the Union's equivalent of the medium carapace?

Now this is important, did picking this lock out the possibility of picking up the other two options? Did we just miss out on the chance of picking up an intact neutrino beam or void shard?
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>>1676783
I mean if I baited terrorists into an illegal AI lab just according to keikaku, i'd put my own AI virus in the data they wanted so it could report back to me after it spies on them.
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>>1676788
Hacking the Q-Com would require going through the Smith, though.

Frankly, I think we still could/should have attacked and hacked at the same time to cut down on his stalling as much as possible.

It's fine, though. Let's crush this tin can.
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>>1676783
Thanks for running QD. Awesome thread. Can't wait for the new day.
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>>1676790
Aegis is the carapace armor. We don't know what Morning Star is, but my guess is it's a lot more sensitive than the armor judging by the name.

If it turns out that we're locked out of the Void equipment altogether though and don't gain anything from the other projects I suspect the Queen will be beyond royally pissed.
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>>1676783
We really should backup the data with the Thinkers entirely before doing anything else this time.

Also we could ask Adam, I guess, conversationally, while we're working as fast as we can. That isn't just a series seven semi-intelligent in here, is it?
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>>1676795
Getting locked out of potential void tech because we picked the smith armor might just be worse than the consequences of voting to leave the void crystals behind when we had Lyle break Lee out of that secret lab on Gemini. Something like that after every other terrible decision we've made whenever the void crystals are involved might just break my will to keep following this quest. It's like any time they're involved we wind up getting royally fucked.
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>>1676799
There were zero crystals in the vault.
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Adam Smith

Oh shit it's him...it's fucking Jesen
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>>1676783
GG and thanks for running

It was awesome
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Keeping notes of all the projects in 'to research'.

Moonraker might be a lead to fucking those Riftborns- I mean Crystal Gods. Better case scenario, it lowers the research time and danger of the psionic cannon prototype research.
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I just thought of something. Assuming my fears are correct and we just routelocked ourselves to some shitty Union exoskeleton project, and we DON'T have time to loot this place for the other, much more important, research projects...

Maybe we could deliberately place some of OQ's spores in the immediate area surrounding the complex. When whatever passes for a quarantine procedure in the Union fails disasterously and we are forced to intervene, our forces will be drawn en masse to the heart of Path, right on top of this complex. When that happens, we can create an instant causus belle to infiltrate the complex with impunity and ransack it for whatever is inside, on the justification that it is the apparent source of the OQ's foulness which threatens to engulf the entire planet. Furthermore, we can claim the void cutter artifacts inside are immediately perceptible to us (the hive can hear the screaming!) and straight up zerg rush the joint.
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>>1676982
And we can blame them for it to hide our tracks.
>"Human, what did you do? Hive has to interfere now."
>"What? No! We have nothing to do with this."
>"There is a contaminant outbreak and you expect us to believe humans are not responsible? We are placing the area under quarantine. Hive will clean this up."
>"You can't! We have a research facility there."
>"You have a research facility and say this was not caused by your meddling?"
>"This isn't like anything they were authorized to research!"
>"What were they authorized to research, then?"
>"Erm, well, that is-"
>"Hive will quarantine. That is final."
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can I point out how fucking scary it is that a smith is just standing there, not doing anything? that bastard can kill anyone of the team and at least half if he so choose to.

so what do we do about it? this third smith is hopefully willing to be civil and not cause trouble. but lets face it we are going to end up in combat. I suggest putting a clone up close him with their lightsabers and cutting off the head while we act like its standard restraining procedure. and if that fails............... I hope we have good rolls.

>>1677012
kek, stupid humans the hive is always dealing with your shit you would think they would learn by now

>>1676982
good plan but the political ramifications would be disasterious. maybe place the taint and when they start freaking out THEN we ask the secutery about a "minor psionic scream"
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>>1677102
>minor psionic scream
How about giving up on this excuse all together. It's shit.
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>>1677128
its not a concrete plan, and its not my plan. any substitutes?
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>>1677138
If shit is being fucked up by the spores why do we have to explain ourselves when we investigate it? It's going to be digging into everything.
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>>1676982
I'd be a bit concerned about planting the OQ's spores there given how volitile they are and the risk she could acquire human tech. However, we could potentially do a false flag attack using our own creep, right? The humans don't have great methods for telling creep strains apart.
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>>1677183
Isn't her creep black and ours deep red?
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>>1677196
We can't dye our creep black? I think the dark red creep is just our aesthetic not necessarily a fundamental attribute of the creep. Our mastery of genetics is probably more than sufficient for us to create a mere color change.
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>>1676786
To Death and through it to Eternity!
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>>1677198
Oh! Sorry i thought you ibtended to use our creep without any kind of change in it that can work we already have a hive in Path so we can just change the color and make it look like a Obisidian Hive.
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>>1676769
...He's a cyborg.

He shouldn't need to check an external watch.

Seems like showmanship to make you rushed and foolhardy.
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>>1677532
That's actually possibly true. He did disable much of the security and unlock the doors for us. If he were stalling in theory he should have locked us out as long as possible. On the other hand, Smiths are insane and it may just be we simply can't predict his actions.
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>>1677540
Could be he is just a guy with the last name Smith...unlikely I know,but narrativium can be surprisingly common.
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>>1677540
>If he were stalling in theory he should have locked us out as long as possible.

He can also be very confident that a group of humans without augs and just a with agew guns aren't a big threat. This would be also a way to know as he asked, who we are and who sended us.
But i think the fact that all Smith's are insane is the best explination for his behaviour.
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>>1677577
>Could be he is just a guy with the last name Smith

That just makes him scarier.
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>>1677540
>>1677586
Fails to explain how he is the single employee running six research projects.

It's ridiculously inefficient.

This place isn't for doing serious research. The weapons testing happens offsite and we don't even know where.

This place was created as bait, and the data contains a trap.
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>>1677601
The question is. Is the bait for us, the group that helped Lee escape? Or was a trap for the terrorists?

I bet it's for us.

But i believe the simplest anwser is, he's just the facility chief of security.
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>>1677601
>This place isn't for doing serious research. The weapons testing happens offsite and we don't even know where.

I agree the data could contain a trap (things are definitely feeling more than a bit off), but they probably did do real research here. The name "Project Moonraker" alone is probably highly classified, and we saw a video of them firing a void cutter's main gun. That is real black research even if they did clean some of the most damning parts (if they anticipated we were coming)
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>>1677617
>The question is. Is the bait for us,

It could be, but I do wonder what the Union thinks it would gain by baiting a bunch of Hive agents.
It can't be to blackmail us since no one outside the Union would care.
It can't be for diplomatic advantage because we still hold all the cards in the fleet over the capital.
It might be to capture and study Hive agents and how the Hive turns "humans" against the Union, but in conducting this the Union would be taking a huge risk. They would have to assume we wouldn't strike back to reacquire our agents and that their actions wouldn't lead to a war they would lose.
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>>1677601
We need deniable scouts, ships and crew that aren't traceable to us. No hive tech, no hive designs, no hive history. The best I can come up with is to buy cargo ships, crew them with lightly auged clones, and set them up trading in high traffic areas as independent traders. But that's more of an "ear to the ground" scout. I'm not sure what wouldn't be suspicious just flying around wherever. Maybe a prospector?

I wonder if we could build a non-hive-pattern shipyard for stuff like this. Buying one would be incredibly suspicious, and could be modified before selling with trackers or other issues.
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>>1677620
At some point they did, but they've repurposed the place as a honeypot.

There's nothing even illegal or unethical about reverse-engineering Ceph weapons anyway.
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>>1677673
Can't we just ask Lyle for recommendations on who to hire as mercs?
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>>1677749
For one off jobs or short term contracts, sure. But then they'll need to be hired through layered proxies, and the info would be second hand. I'm talking about scouts we could send to followup on this info we just found without tipping off whoever knows we breached that facility.
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>>1677780
Information doesn't have to be second-hand. They get what we need and either it's intercepted by Theseus when it goes through comms, or they dead-drop a physical copy at certain coordinates.
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>>1677636
I just want to have Devon inside the Union government so we can see all the chaos that is happening there..
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>>1677673
...What does that have to do with the probably AI-virus in the payload they want us to spread to Kent?

But you can just use the parasites and infiltration efforts to take over existing humans and ships instead of making your own ships.
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Bump
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>>1680452
Was that really necessary?
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>>1682296
If there is a midweek thread today or tomorrow it'll help keep the thread at the top of the bump order.
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Galaxy 4chan and space /pol/ must be having a blast after that interview going to the air.
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Praise Mother!

https://twitter.com/HiveQueenQuest/status/887576658336763905
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>>1683324
Aw shit.
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>>1676783
Your clone quickly plugs himself into the console, his mind rapidly sifting through vast sums of data as he forces his way through the internal network security. The material world drifts away as his neural link establishes a false sensory experience as the mental interface loads.

The tech quickly begins breaking down the wall of digital oblivion set before him, breaking down the firewall locking out the lab's server access. As the server opens itself it rapidly forms into a classically decorated library, only with a complete disregard for any concept of physical laws. Sections of bookshelves stretch onward at various and unintuitive angles.

"Quantum encryption, well shit." Your tech says. The mental whisper intended for the other tech. "The data itself can be accessed just fine, but damn is it harder to actually find it."

"This may take a while." Your other clone says with a hushed tone. "We're looking at some quantum encryption in the server itself."

"So what, you can't' access it?" Sam asks.

"Did I say that?" Your clone replies. "Maybe fifty years ago, yea, we would need a quantum processor the size of a house and three weeks to find anything. Nowadays, we may need, uh, ten minutes maybe?"

"Do you think you have the time?" Smith asks as a smug grin grows on his face. Your other clone shakes his shotgun in his direction in response.

There is a crackle of static from the radio that surprises your clones. It's the voice of Kent, filled with interference and hardly audible, but clear enough to understand for the most part.

"You have a problem." He says. "Incoming corporate security forces. Nothing on the metro security network, it must be a silent alarm. Looks like some heavy equipment is on its way though." Your flies buzz through the air, observing as the second team's van sits just beneath the main street, with a set of radio antenne stretching up through a manhole vent. A set of small digital periscopes peek out from beneath the street as a pair of shuttles land on the upper terraces of the Senticom building. Troops begin pouring out from within, all in full military grade equipment from your view, their armor more advanced than even most of the PDF forces you have seen, all with corporate logos set on their arms and chests.

Your flies within the main building scouting the newly deactivated ventilation system keep watch, several small groups of flies quickly moving to the terrace levels to watch the troops move by. There are at least two dozen of them, armed and armored more appropriately for a planetary invasion than any private security issue. Several plug themselves into a wall terminal as the others wait for a report.

"You don't have much time, whatever you need to get done, get it done." Kent says.

"I need to know what I'm looking for." Your tech says. "I'll try to get everything, but it may take time we don't have. I'd like a list of priorities."

"We need data on military contract cybernetics." Feng says.
cont.
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>>1687388
OH FUG.
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>>1687388
Habbening.

Weren't we going to install some sort of q-comm relay?
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>>1687388
dropped your trip QD
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>>1687388
>"We need data on military contract cybernetics."

Yeeeeaaaah, fuck that. Get information on the Void Crystals and other Hive critical projects.
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>>1687388
We probably won't have time to get more than 1 research protect data, but i think we might be able to get 2 if we sacrifice one of our techs, we just need some explosives and to barricade ourselves.
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>>1687427
Meant to link to >>1687409
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>>1687427
Instead of decrypting everything now why don't we just transfer the entire "library" over to Theseus or our thinker database? It seems like time is the biggest limiting factor for breaking the security, not accessing the data itself which is visible.

In theory the only limiting factor should be the bandwitch of information we can extract, and integrated Hive relays are probably pretty fast.
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>>1687437
>Copying the entire library.
W-would that work? It's genius if so.
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>>1687388
"That's not very specific." Your clone replies. "I need as much detail as you know to give me points of reference. Otherwise it's like trying to find a grain of rice in a sandstorm. You can't just search A to Z when every qubit is in a random location and randomly changing locations at random times."

"Since the founding of the company, as far back as the Battle of the Patriots at the start of the colony wars. It may be listed as a government contract but the Union wasn't formed until years later so who knows."

"Look, I'm sifting through a billion qubits of quantum superposition, it's like trying to calculate a warp course by squinting at the star you want and getting the rest of the way on luck and probability. This is literally a matter of faith, at this level particles are affected by their own future superposition, so damnit give me a fucking keyword here!"

"Start with Agent Smith and any combat or after action reports related to that name."

Your clone sifts through an endlessly shifting expanse of bookshelves, each one shifting and folding in on itself like a kaleidoscope as impossible angles and twisting, uncanny curves. Even the act of moving through the maze shifts it further, even looking at the various shelves send them shifting in their paths and drifting away into oblivion, only to emerge again in several new places at once.

Your clone thinks hard on the images, his mind filling with the united, chanting chorus of a million thinkers as their voices echo your will across the cosmos. A human would be lucky to find anything in such short time. Your clone is far more, however, and the hive is behind his actions. Even still, such raw computations will take time to funnel through the bottleneck of a single brain, you should prioritize what you attempt to find.

>Follow Feng's request about the history of the Prometheus Initiative, everything else is secondary.
>Search for more broad details of the current status of the Prometheus Initiative.
>Search for information regarding Project Aegis
>Other (write in)

>>1687407
Yes, my anonymous shitposting seems to have thrown it off since sunday.
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>>1687447
Can we hook up the other tech to the console to search for Moonracker project while this one looks for Prometheus?
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>>1687447
>Upload the library to Theseus to sift through later and download a Theseus instance.

Or if that's not viable.

>Search for information on Moonracker first.
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>>1687457
This lab holds the network administration, so yes, but doing so would require hacking through a lot of security and essentially charging through the front door, since the only way into the other labs' servers is by taking over the administrator account.
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>>1687447
Question, if we have one tech doing the diving should we have the other go hotwire the Aegis armor for our Brawler?

I think they'll need it if they're going to be fighting a Smith and a small corporate army
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>>1687469
I am too tired to understand this, can we use 2 tech clones to search for 2 different research projects or no?
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>>1687447
>>1687462
Oh, then change that second one to
>Search for more broad details of the current status of the Prometheus Initiative.
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>>1687447
>Search for more broad details of the current status of the Prometheus Initiative.

I also want to see if we can get Theseus here but we need a Q-Comm and not sure if there's one in this room
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>>1687447
>>Search for more broad details of the current status of the Prometheus Initiative.

The Prometheus project is the Void Shard recovery project. We need to know where the shards are NOW, not where they were discovered however many years ago.

we never did find out what the morning star project is
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>>1687447
>>Follow Feng's request about the history of the Prometheus Initiative, everything else is secondary.
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>>1687490
There's a Q-Comm right behind the smith.
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>>1687447
Disregard everything and search for the moonraker files before anything. Everything else is secondary in importance to us.
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>>1687490
There is a Q-Com but the Smith is guarding it. Maybe we should attempt to rush him and access the Q-Com before the security forces arrive?
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>>1687496
>>1687501
Then I restate my suggestion about getting our Brawler (or Sam) into the Aegis armor to distract the Smith so we can get Theseus in

unless we're already route-locked
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>>1687494
I assume that would the smith stuff, since we're looking up the void cutter stuff right now.
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>>1687507
Secondary by this. We shouldn't have our entire team sit on their ass when security is incoming and a Smith is stalling us.

I vote to attack with everyone not actively involved in hacking and to use the local suits if possible to our advantage (probably Sam since he has the implants)
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>>1687447
>>1687479
And adding
>Brawlers deal with the smith.
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>>1687507
I think that will take too much time, i'm not sure how many clones we have in here but i believe we have at least 2 brawlers, we should have them attack the smith and distract him while our 2nd tech connects to the relay.
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>>1687447
>Other (write in)
Try and get a Theseus instance in there asap
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>>1687514
Fucking auto-correct. Meant to say I am seconding (supporting) >>1687507
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>>1687447
>Search for more broad details of the current status of the Prometheus Initiative.
>Other (write in)
Have the other clones attack the smith and draw him away so our 2nd tech clone can connect to the Q-Comm
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>>1687447
Get Theseus wired in here and get him to help unlock project moonraker files.

>>1687469
It's worth it to do so, we desperately need to get our eyes on anything pertaining to void crystals.
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WAIT, we also have a scavenger clone here don't we? Let's have him go back and boobytrap every path to us to buy us time.
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Why are we searching for Prometheus when that's the void shard salvage operation and these guys are here for data about the Smith project?

Aegis seems a lot closer to what we're looking for.
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>>1687519
>>1687528
Guys, how will you get Theseus in here? You can't just vote for it without describing a plan.
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>>1687523
*our 2nd tech clone can connect to the Q-Comm to get Theseus in here to help.
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>>1687533
>>1687534
you both ignore the bits about how there is a Q-Comm in the room or how we're talking about having the Brawler distract them while our second tech hacks in?
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>>1687533
Because the location of the crystals is far more valuable to the Hive than Smith info.

>>1687534
By using the Q-com the Smith is guarding.

>>1687523
Also backing. In whatever way is most feasible we need to have one tech gather broad current info while our clones distract/attack the smith and the second tech brings in Theseus through the Q-Com.
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>>1687534
We're linked into their network and did it last time on the Valeen ship via a parasite drone in a dude.
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>>1687540
I have not ignored the Q-comm, see >>1687523

Wait, aren't Q-Comms only connected to one other? How would that get Theseus in here?
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>>1687533
I am changing my vote way to much but fine.
>>1687447
>Search for information regarding Project Aegis
>Brawlers deal with the smith to secure the Q-com and get a Theseus instance in there.
>Second tech connects Sam to Aegis armour to help the brawlers.
>Scav clone prepares traps to intercept hostiles breaching early or slow them down once our team has left.

Final Answer. Forget>>1687462
>>1687479
and>>1687516
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>>1687554
We only have 2 techs. We can't have one search for the project, one try to rush the Q-Com, and one help with the armor.

Also, Aegis is just that shitty armor project. Why in all fuck so we want to waste time downloading that useless info.
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>>1687560
The one helping with the armor will deal with the Q-coms once the smith is down and the armor isn't needed anymore.
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>>1687560
it's not the data we're after, it's the temporary use we can gain from the hardware. Jackob and Dillon were able to stand up against a Smith wearing an equivalent armor.

It's just a precaution and the natural instinct that comes with breaking into a high-tech facility like this and wanting to steal their toys for fun

honestly you anons not wanting to use it feels like the Doomguy seeing the BFG and going "Nah, I already have too many guns"
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>>1687570
Anon, our BFG is the Psi -Cannon, which requires Void shards to operate. Keep the big picture in mind. When we eventually build the real BFG we will need ammunition and right now we have a limited and time sensitive chance to gain access to information outlining some of their locations.
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>>1687447
Getting some complicated planning in here.
Just to clarify:

>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on the Prometheus Initiative
>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on Project Moonraker
>Have your tech focus on the cybernetics data and the Morning Star Initiative
>Focus on finding data on another project (write in)
>Have your other tech retrieve data on a separate project (write in)
>Have your other tech attempt to activate the Aegis suit for use by your brawler
>Other (write in)
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>>1687560
Well perfect, then we can have one tech search for the morningstar project while the other attempts to get Theseus in here through a the Q-comm. The brawlers can buy them time.

But, yeah, fuck this stupid armor project, it's nothing but a waste of our time.
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>>1687597
>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on the Prometheus Initiative
>Have your other tech retrieve data on a separate project (write in)
Moonracker.
Now everybody can be satisfied.
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>>1687597
>>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on Project Moonraker
>>Other
Have our other tech attempt to hack the Q-comm to bring in a Theseus instance.
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>>1687597
>Have your tech focus on the cybernetics data and the Morning Star Initiative
>Have your other tech retrieve data on a separate project - Star Hound Project

I want that Ceph gun
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>>1687597
>Have your other tech attempt to activate the Aegis suit for use by your brawler
>Have your tech focus on the cybernetics data and the Morning Star Initiative
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>>1687597
>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on Project Moonraker
>Other (write in)
>Have your other tech attempt to Bring in a Theseus Instance
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>>1687601
While getting our tech to directly break through to the files on the moonraker is an option, and a pretty good one, he will be hobbled by the masses of data between this lab and the one holding project moonraker. If we can get Theseus in here he would have a much easier time of parsing through all those qubits.
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Watch Moonraker be some kind of hydrogen-farming project
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>>1687610
Again, i am to tired to understand this, why does our 2nd tech go through a tougher time than our 1st to access a research project?
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>>1687606
Supporting.

This is turning into another Nowhere from idiotic decision making
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>>1687597
>Have your tech focus on the cybernetics data and the Morning Star Initiative
What we came here for.

The rest we can finagle out another way.
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>>1687613
Hah.
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>>1687614
Wasn't the second techer the one that the A.I. tried to fry his brain?
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>>1687597
>>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on the Prometheus Initiative

>>Have your other tech hack through the firewall to get data on Project Moonraker
I was going to vote to bring in Theseus, but then realized how bad that would look for our diplomacy initiative. Best to just do this ourself and make sure we get all the key info.
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>>1687620
The stupid option here is not getting the critical Void Shard information that is immensely more valuable than the Smith data, our "alliance" with the terrorists, and the lives of all our agents combined.
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>>1687625
I dunno, if so he seems fine now.
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>>1687614
It's mostly that the Morningstar project is so extraordinarily valuable it's worthwhile bringing another AI in here to hedge our bets. We would have to be pretty lucky to get through with our clone's brains intact.
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>>1687620
If it turns out that way I just might have to give up on this quest. Jesus, there's only so many times I can watch the anons make the same mistake over and over again.
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>>1687634
We have no idea how valuable Morningstar is. It could be extremely valuable or it could be almost worthless.

However, we KNOW Prometheus and Moonraker are extremely valuable projects and we should try to get as much of that important info as possible rather than hedge our bets and risk getting something much less useful.
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>>1687634
Not likely, from >>1687469
Our 2nd clone would be hindered no matter what research project he picks. Moonracker is as protected as the other research projects.
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>>1687597
looks like.
>Have your tech hack through the firewall to get data on Project Moonraker
>Have your tech focus on the cybernetics data and the Morning Star Initiative

Please roll 2d100, best of 3.
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>>1687642
where did they say Moonraker was important?

You're making a lot of assumptions based on a name alone.

I mean we thought the Prometheus Initiative was the Smiths since Prometheus made Mankind but it was experiments using Ceph technology since Prometheus stole Fire from Olympus
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Rolled 21, 77 = 98 (2d100)

>>1687646
FOR THE HIVE!
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Rolled 31, 34 = 65 (2d100)

>>1687646
welp, here we go on a horrible plan

For Mother!
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Rolled 36, 24 = 60 (2d100)

>>1687647
For Mother!
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Rolled 14, 12 = 26 (2d20)

>>1687646
For momma bug
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>>1687646
Damn trip.

In any case, the network of the facility is physically not connected to the outside world, so you would need to reach the Q-comm if you want to bring a Theseus instance into the network, which Smith is currently standing in front of.
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Rolled 12, 74 = 86 (2d100)

>>1687652
Dammit, wrong fucking dice. I was late anyways.

>>1687646
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>>1687649
>>1687650
>>1687651
Dammit.
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Rolled 75, 82 = 157 (2d100)

>>1687646
fuck it
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>>1687647
I think we should have gotten info on Prometheus (THE VOID SHARDS!) now rather than getting useless cybernetic info. And that we should have had our other drones attack the smith rather than sitting on their ass.

The rolls were pretty mediocre overall, but at least one is a possible success.
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Jesus, these rolls. Which one is for trying to find the moonraker files?
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>>1687664
of course ffs
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>>1687666
Probably the first.
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>>1687666
The 36 is Moonraker, and 77 for Smith data.

I can't believe we didn't get any Void Shard data.

especially after all the hints QD gave that the Prometheus project was the most important by specifically mentioning it in votes to gather information multiple times compared with any of the other projects.
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>>1687675
Jesus wept, this is a fucking disaster.
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>>1687698
Hopefully our other clones do better than our techs. The longer they can hold off the enemy the longer our techs can search. Maybe we can get another shot at actually getting the important Void Shard info rather than ignoring them until more humans are corrupted and pull off another Nowhere.

Our techs might be able to pull off one more hacking effort together at the cost of no one escaping the Union response force. But such is the cost of serving Mother, and they will be remembered as heroes.
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>>1687711
Our clone's self destruct glands remove all augments right?
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>>1687719
Yep.

And even if our clones are suspected to be Hive Agents there isn't that much the Union can do about it especially if our clones bodies are completely dissolved.
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>>1687646
Your second tech shakes his head quickly as he clears his thoughts of the still lingering pain zipping through his nerves and plugs himself into the terminal. Time seems to slow down as the interface software loads, and his mind goes rushing off through the network.

The endlessly shifting labyrinth holds all manner of useless, meaningless data endlessly created and destroyed as random clumps of qubits assemble into meaningless, congealed lumps of data at the most cursory glance, their superpositions collapsing into a deliberately indecipherable babble. Without the proper quantum cypher the ability to extract any authentic data from the aether of qubits becomes a matter of raw computational power, and a kind of scientific faith. At the subatomic level, the superposition of any particle is, at least mathematically, affected by its own future. While this phenomenon has no real world application without an understanding of tachyons, which then becomes the basis of your own psionic sensors, it does have rather odd and virtually impossible to repeat effects when manually searching an archive. While AIs and computer algorithms are faster through simple brute force, an organic operator is at least twenty percent more likely to find the desired data. Similarly, such odds seem to be influenced by mood swings, emotional states, and, at least according to urban legend, the future of the hacker in question. The data formed from the quantum encryption has been known to form the basis of ironic, or at least semi-ironic cults who half-jokingly claim the collapse of the superposition of data will offer some meaningful portent or indication of a future event. Typically such claims were the butt of jokes on net forums, although some hackers have been heard of to abandoned their goals due to perceived ill omens from the quantum aether, even going so far as to credit their continued status at large to their ability to read the random data collapses for warnings from the future.

Right now, at least to you, the data offers nothing of use. Your thinkers churn, their mental voices echoing across the expanse of light years in an instant as they look over the data, your clones clench their teeth at the sudden volume of data pouring through their minds, far beyond anything any human could comprehend, and they continue to direct your thinkers as if holding a fire hose as the sum computational power of the Hive itself flows through them.

Slowly, data begins to form, and from the patches of data are connections linking to more files as their relation in the database slowly congeals from their superpositions into a comprehensible and readable set of files. Your clones begin searching through the data as it forms, reading it all faster than their minds can comprehend as your thinkers collate the data further, sorting through every qubit for the information you seek.

cont.
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>>1687895
There is a number of old battle reports. Casualties and performance reports listed under a reference for a 'Project Skyfall', one of the research programs that developed the first drop suit. You recall many of the details from Lyle's own training and education, his old base being filled with all manner of memorabilia from the first generation of atmospheric infantry. The so-called Stratotrooper, based largely on the paratrooper of ancient military doctrine, but with advanced technology both in aeronautics and infantry portable equipment. The first versions were little more than disposable heat shields worn over the uniform and a highly durable parachute deployed from a very low orbiting shuttle and set to open when closing with the ground. It was not uncommon for a squad to lose a third of its troops, but starships were far more frail in that age, and any attempt of a shuttle to land would often hold even greater casualties. In time the heat shielding was improved, becoming a large tank surrounding the soldier, or as Lyle would put it, two bathtubs bolted together and sent hurtling through space. The first drop trooper units were often known for their gallows humor, and it was not uncommon to make the claim the first generation guidance systems were powered by prayer.

It seems someone has scrawled various design questions over a number of these old notes, and whoever it was seemed to take the approach of altering the soldier instead of the drop pod. A design for a metallic skeleton is found, as well as a number of medical plans for a surgical procedure to instal it. In addition are a number of cybernetic designs, limbs, organs, neural connectors frighteningly crude in design. You find a set of notes connected to it all holding some form of answers. They are incredibly old, scanned into the computer from prints of paper.

It is my proposal that humanity has reached or is close to an evolutionary stagnation. The physical body is no longer capable of withstanding the terrible strain of operating the devices conceived of by our minds. To remedy this, it is hereby proposed a project with which to advance the physical body with the imaginings of the mind. The reports enclosed offer the first of many practical applications in this endeavor, and it would be my formal request of your meeting of interstellar congress to grant me permission and funding to begin this initiative with which we shall break free of the false gods of our emotional attachment to our natural bodies, and begin the end of our journey to a true technological and evolutionary singularity. -Dr. James Lucius Smith, University of Mentan neuroscience applications department.

cont.
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>>1688048
>a project with which to advance the physical body with the imaginings of the mind
Skyl did it first
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>>1688048
You focus your thinkers on the newly unveiled data, and more begins to congeal around the core of information, quickly growing into a full archive of data as many more reports and materials stress test results begin forming. You find another letter, this one equally old, but entirely digital, an ancient message long ago received on one of the first models of Q-comm relay devices.

Your request for funding has been denied. The interplanetary congress is in no position to provide funding until the charter of independence has been fully ratified. As yet we lack the tax income or the power to levy such taxes in a legal manner. Our military is entirely voluntary and composed of donated or loaned equipment by the citizens or the corporations once pressed into the service of the Confederacy. Due to this alliance of liberty minded compatriots, the representative of a private funder of our rebellion has voiced interest in your proposal. The Senticom corporation is a recent startup, forming from a group of researchers who helped develop the ansible device with which I send this now. Between their world's liberation and their betrayal of the Earth through the dissemination of these devices, they have been out of a profession until recently and are looking for something big to sink their teeth into. I would recommend you travel to Path as soon as you can.

The letter leads to more data, test results and more cybernetics schematics and neural augments only slightly more refined. You find another report, dated some years later, regarding some device recovered from a biological sample.

They are massive creatures, cold and calculating at that. Manipulative bastards but their tech is something else.
I have secured the services of a smuggler. It's likely he's on their dole as much as mine, given half the guns he gives us he 'finds' in their space, but I trust him to at least get the equipment as far as Pilgrim. Obviously out here in the trenches I don't have the equipment to do a proper study, but I know they use this to interface directly with the tech they are too big to manipulate themselves, and I think it may help solve your interface problem with the cybernetics. Obviously, my friend on Pilgrim will deliver it in return for the agreed upon payment of munitions.


cont.
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>>1688178
Another file is connected to the letter, a schematic for a century old valen designed neural interface, along with several variations of human designed attempts at reverse engineering. You find a long list of animal experiments, with detailed autopsies for various cybernetically enhanced animals set with a number of death causes ranging from infection to 'violent outbursts forced termination' and a long list of other, more specific complications. The iterations each come with a new improvement, and more testing, until eventually there is another large report, this time logged for delivery to the Union Research and Development division with the stated goal of obtaining a grant for additional funding.

It is with great pride that I unveil the fruits of my lifelong ambition to put an end to the limitations of the human condition. With a number of recent breakthroughs it is my firm belief that the project of which the details are enclosed, is nearing its final stage, and is now hindered only by a lack of appropriate subjects, permits, and funding with which to properly field test the results of our labor. The project can at this stage only be continued with the help of human testing, and our tests have been so thorough that I would trust myself to undergo this procedure, and any willing participant, it is my professional opinion, will be able to experience the full advantages of our procedure with no more than a week of recuperation. -Dr. James Lucius Smith, Head of applied neuro-cybernetics, Centicom.

The response is quite short and rather blunt, offering little explanation.

Your request for funding has been removed from the public record and a representative of the Secretary of Intelligence has been dispatched to further study your project. A warrant of investigation from the Interstellar Trade Commission will follow. This letter is classified and sharing it with anyone shall be punished by no more than twenty years imprisonment and no more than fifty thousand credits fine.

A warrant does indeed follow, although you recognize the work of SentiCom when you see it. Beyond the seal and its header, the entire message has been erased. The unseen strings of similarity continue to bring more files into your view from the scrambled quantum aether, more designs, test results, cybernetics schematics, and now a number of human subjects designated from subject zero to six. Several files include autopsies with the listed cause of death either complications from surgery, suicide, or... something else which has been long ago erased from the record, although many such autopsies seem to include brief combat reports and ballistics damage. You find another letter, this one an internal memo.

cont.
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>>1688321
The treaty has been signed, and with it, our future has been sold. Those idiots on Chandra have ruined our greatest hope as a species to evolve beyond the petty drama of our emotional sacks of flesh and endorphins, and with that comes the growing realization that our species shall be doomed to return to the mud from whence we came and die, naked, ignorant, and screaming, as we were born. This pact between the great powers that be shall usher in a new dark age. The people shall shun the light of progress to better hide their own iniquities, but I will shine the light in that darkness regardless, even if I am to be branded a monster or heretic. To those who would follow me into damnation, I offer not only employment, but a chance to change the universe. To those who would slink back into the darkness, this letter will not reach you, but I say good riddance nonetheless. Our work must take on further limitations, but it will continue. I have received a letter from a generous up and coming Parliamentary representative, and he has seen to it that we receive all we may need to continue our work, accelerate our development even. So please, have heart, even with the AI ban we will persevere. We shall bring light to the darkness and in time, the fruits of our labor will bring mankind out of its cradle of ignorance. -Dr. James Lucius Smith, Senticom Executive Administrator.

You gather the files even as they continue to materialize, your clones working feverishly fending off firewalls and administrative bots all the way. Your second tech struggles to keep up, his head throbbing with pain. He struggles to stand, his nervous system overloaded with a flood of information and set alight with a blaze of agony as if napalm were pouring through his veins.

"You're gonna burn out, you've already taken a beating." Hiromi says. "And no matter what info you get, we can't do anything with it if we can't get it out. Unplug, before you cook yourself like a fried egg!"

>Have your tech retreat from the system
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)
>Have your tech try something else (write in)
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)
All this crap about smiths and cybernetics is meaningless to us in the long run, we need those files on moonraker. And our clones are totally replaceable.
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>>1688363
>>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)

Even if they die and we have to leave them, the cost is negligible and they have self-destruct glands that destroy all hive tech
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>>1688363
>>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)
I hate to say this, but he is the definition of expendable
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)
Data is too important and clones are expendable.

Try to search for prometheus project stuff. We need to know more about the void crystals and where they are stored now.
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>>1688363
>Have your tech try something else (write in)
Get the Aegis armor up and running for Sam or a Brawler so we can get access to the Q-Comm
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)

Man, it's so creepy to think that these are basically human drones that are part of a hivemind. I know we basically think for them for many things, but I wonder what they think about it...
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>>1688376
I'm hoping with espionage we'll be able to infiltrate this place later to get our hands on what we couldn't.

We should really pull an employee list for future parasite targets if we havent. And if the OQ creep hasn't eaten this building by then
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>>1688386
....could we do both? We've got two techs here, maybe one of them can get the armor going if the moonraker search fails?
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>>1688395
That's what I meant. The uninjured one continues the archive binging while the damaged one gets the suit mobile
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>>1688386
Supporting
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)
So there was a Tech cult in the union
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)

They are expendable. We need data!
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>>1688391
Well... in the mass of data we upload we can copy their "individual personalities" such as they exist into a new clone/hybrid.
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>>1688393
True, with espionage we should be able to infiltrate this building well enough on our own terms. That may be a problem if the Union did what they did after Lyle's little stunt on Gemini and simply move all the relevant artifacts (including the void shard that allowed the Void gods to screw with our brain) offsite and leave no paper trail. That would be a real disappointment but as long as there aren't anymore void shards in this facility shouldn't be another devastating blow like our failure on Gemini or Nowhere. Of course we need to verify that there aren't actually any void shards here first.
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>>1688391
Dude, they're hybrids, they're cool with it. They're genetically half drone to begin with.
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>>1688363
>Have your tech make one final push to gather more data (may suffer extensive nerve damage)

Please roll 1d100, best of 3 for a final hail mary.
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Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>1688421
FOR MOTHER!
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>1688421
f
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Rolled 67 (1d100)

>>1688421
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Rolled 7 (1d100)

>>1688421
>>1688428
>>1688421
For Mother
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>1688421
For Mother!
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>1688421
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Rolled 94 (1d100)

>>1688421
For the Void!
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Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>1688421
For Mother!
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>>1688421
FOR MOTHER!
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>>1688428
>>1688432
>>1688434
Sweet Dice Gods above

>>1688437
HERESY
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>>1688434
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>>1688428
YES! HOLY SHIT! YES!

[Finally starts breathing again]
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>>1688428
NIIIICE.
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>>1688442
I think you are off by a few posts
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>>1688442
How Dare you!!!

Off to recycling with you
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>>1688428
WE DID COMPUTER THING FOR MOTHER!
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>>1688444
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Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
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I was so worried we would get very little "relative" valuable information compared to what we could have gotten if Anons had not totally fucked it up. Hopefully that 97 will allow us to stumble upon something truly exceptional and important that will make this entire gambit worth it.
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It occurs to me it will be really bad news if this tech cult ever met a void shard given the void tendency to give cybernetics to its followers
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>Tech cultists providing services and manpower to an apathetic government
Great, i cant unsee it now.
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>>1688470
yeah but the Void hate research. Remember that to them the words "research" is literally "heresy" which is Heretic is named Heretic.
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>>1688484
Actually now that I think about it, why don't we approach this corporation with a business proposal from the Hive for joint research efforts? Have a nice sit down and chat about how we can help each other.
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>>1688494
>Hey i just stole valuable information from you and gave it to a crazy terrorist who plans to use it to destroy the Union government and you by association.
>Wanna make a joint research project? Just look at all my medical tech you could learn from, and don't get me started on the augs, you saw them firsthand.
This is some Valen business shit right here.
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>>1688500
They'd be fools not to take it! Besides, we can let them know that the sewers are infested with black queen hive creep and this planet is basically fucked if nothing is done.
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>>1688484
No they hate there slaves researching things because there slaves will end up rebelling like the skyl did,

Which is why the ceph tech and tactics haven't changed at all for so long since the void is not willing to risk potential rebellion

They have no problem tricking slaves by giving them tech that makes them controllable by the void
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>>1688511
And given the void control the ceph through religion, brain implants and total reliance on void powered tech base, this tech cult would be a prime target for the void to gain control over
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>>1688513
All the more reason to reach out to them before the Void does.
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>>1688504
>Ps. the sewers are infected by this fungus originating from those black hive ships you saw us fighting a few days ago, it's going totally unchecked and spreading, you should really get the hell out of dodge soon.
>Ask the Union to remove the fungus? Are you sure you should trust them with such a job? They are the ones who brought it here and from my experience i wouldn't trust them to successfully remove weeds from a yard.
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>>1688515
I have no idea how you came to that conclusion

It seems to me it would be better to exterminate this cult than anything else
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>>1688521
>humans created by White Queen for research outsourcing
>they are literally working on the thing we want to build
>therefore we should destroy them

I don't really follow.
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>>1688531
Um it was another research team that worked on the psi cannon

And mom already got what wanted and let humanity to its own affairs

This lot is looking into things that are really dangerous and we are already cleaning up the mess at nowhere

So allowing a cult run around is a real bad idea and they should be culled
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>>1688531
They simply cannot be trusted with that sort of knowledge. If we fully and openly co opt them and their mad scientists to build a psionic cannon then we can no longer control how they use that information and who they give access to it. And with what we've seen of their clusterfuck of a research division someone inevitably will fall to the void out of scientific curiosity with no regard for the consequences. And once that happens the void will spread beyond its current Ceph hosts, and then it will never be defeated.
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>>1688531
>>they are literally working on the thing we want to build
>THEY

There's yer problem. In case you haven't noticed humans've kinda grown away from Mom's vision and become actively dangerous towards us, themselves, and the universe.

We need to get control of them again, and until we do that any advances they make in this area need to be stomped out.
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>>1688551
>>1688546
>>1688545
Bringing it all in-house (or in-Hive, rather) would solve the problem.

If some humans just want to research cool things, hey, we've got cool things to research. If they want to make humans neater, I'm on board with that. We've never shied away from upgrading humans before. Anything that makes them useful and better allies against the Void.

But Killinger-style folks, no. Nope.
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>>1688577
You know, While we're on the subject of asshole humans who tried to cut up our children...

If we decide to employ humans to help design and test the cannon we should consider cloning seiner and hybridizing him to work on it. Now hear me out, it was always clear he was working for the highest bidder and doing whatever he had to gain funding for his dream of researching what his grandfather was up to. If we bring him back and give him whatever materials he needs we will literally be giving him the to achieve his life dream. He wouldn't have any sort of motivation to betray us, and as a hybrid he couldn't if he wanted to.

But most importantly with his history of siezures it's clear he was one of very few humans with an active resistance to psionics, which would make him ideal for working on the cannon.
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>>1688577
Not really. The entire reason it's out of house is that humans are blind to the Void. They can research it much more "safely" than we can, although safety is an extraordinarily relative term. I know the Hive wants to control everything, but that thirst to control and know everything will bring about our downfall if we don't realize that there are some things too dangerous for us to know directly and that must therefore be known by our proxies.

I agree Killinger is at best a certain future adoptee and at worst dead already, but if we try to take over the Union too forcefully it will backfire both diplomatically and strategically.

Theseus is the best option to build the Psi-cannon (although he would certainly greatly benefit from assistance from psi-enhanced humans like Elizabeth). Theseus is loyal to us and extremely devoted to destroying the Void God thanks to the influence of Heretic. He is also much less likely to be corrupted than any other known entity. That doesn't mean that he's immune to corruption - far from it - but Theseus has resistances that makes Void cannon research many orders of magnitude safer for him than it is for us.
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>>1688591
Yeah, got to be cautious about the fact that Obsidian Aunty has crystals growing out of her head.

But with human clone researchers and psi-insulated research facilities, surely we can make it at least as safe as any truly independent human research project, and safer.
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>>1688591
Agreed on Theseus though, BTW. But I'm not sure if he really makes humans obsolete in the research department. I think they'd make a good team.
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>>1688599
Still safer to just use Theseus

No risk of crystals growing in the brain
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>>1688585
But Anon, we awaken latent psionic abilities in our hybrids. That's the entire reason they can hear the call of the hive themselves. Wouldn't it make more sense to try and replicate Elizabeth's moderate relay/void resistant "cybernetic" in "human" clones that would benefit from not being directly tied into the Hive network.

The problem with using hybrids for research is due to their psionic connection to the Hive we still "see" everything the hybrid sees and thus any corruption they'd observe would be passed on to us even if they might ordinarily be resistant themselves. Until the Red Queen herself is upgraded to some manner of Void resistance (aka, we at a minimum lose the Void is watching modifier due to our research and a cybernetic blocker), we cannot involve ourselves directly in the research safely.
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>>1688606
Fair point, I guess we would have to stick to giving him his own parasite. Not that that's any less effective at collaring him, not that we'd even need to. It's not like the seiner would ever be capable of sneaking out of hive surveillance, or stealing one of our bioships.
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>>1688421
Your clone grips the computer terminal as he pulls himself forward, leaning over the console as his mind races, his vision turning red as the thinkers pour an endless stream of data through his consciousness. Firewalls slowly crumble and the network is cleared of obstacles as the quantum aether is pulled into comprehension.

The first is information you have seen already. Memos collected and reports filed, nothing with any recent update or sign of active use. You trace the dates back, searching for some eventual beginning to it all. There is a battle report, most of it has been erased and it is covered in classification warnings, but it shows a short manifest and a salvage contract. According to the details, it seems that most of the requested salvage vessels were only meant to haul moon rocks, while a select few performed the real mission under the cover of the rest of the fleet. The recovered salvage is unaccounted for, but there is a manifest.

Detailed multifrequency scans of designated orbital paths have resulted in the successful recovery of artifact Omega. Additional survey scans of the area have resulted in additional artifact recovery. It is believed all artifacts have been secured. Six artifacts have been recovered, each classifying into one of two types. On site teams have classified the artifacts as either active or inactive, active artifacts are to be recovered only under supervision of BFI personnel and with the precautions listed in recover team briefing orders protocol six-eight-one. Inactive artifacts are to be contained within provided material containers only. Of the six artifacts, two were determined to be inactive, four were classified as active.

Inactive artifacts were immediately brought to materials testing lab REDACTED for further study.
Active artifacts are to be contained in deep storage until further notice, and no contact is to be made with them in any way.


You find a number of news reports listed in the public record, although it includes a number of details in the recordings that were edited out of the available news footage. The psionic cannon, the moon cracking open, the battle of Sol itself, all from every camera of every ship in the battle with each recording superimposed with trajectory estimates and calculations of force, studying both the cannon and the estimated orbital paths of the shattered base fragments.

cont.
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>>1688633
>>1688635
THAT DAY IS NOW
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>>1688635
Fuck, they got 4 more shards at least
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>>1688641
And 2 inactive/broken shards, which are valuable since they make the psionic shroud thing.
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>>1688641
>>1688643
Yeah, sounds like the two are the broken ones that were used to fire the cannon, and the four were the remaining ammunition.
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>>1688635
Mother of God. They've got at least 4 shards left, 2 of them active.

If they don't turn them over to us soon this will mean war.
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>>1688641
and how many they may have recovered from the Ceph

If my theory about Void shards being the powersource of the Cutters because of the fact that injured ships disappear into No-Space
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>>1688652
I'm pretty sure your theory is correct, if i recall correctly the void crystals produce a constant amount of energy, nothing compared to a power tap however.
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>>1688652
yeah that is not a theory, that is a fact

The void are the drives and all the tech, the ceph are just there to pilot in real space

They learned to never allow a slave race to understand the tech after what the skyl did
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>>1688635
Well damn, they must have at least four more. When they offer us the shards as concessions for peace (as that was our primary demand - even more significant than the demand for the Expanse) we need to know to demand at least four more and probably more given they've been combing the Expanse for additional artifacts.

The detailed recordings of the battle of Sol would probably be at least as valuable for the terrorists as the Smiths in terms of proving the illegitimacy and danger of the Union regime. If the Union was founded on a fundamental lie like how the homeworld of Earth was ruined it would greatly weaken the government.

I think our purposes would probably be better served by giving the terrorists recordings of what really happened at Sol than giving them the Smith information. It will prove to back up the Hive's claims of having access to planet destroying weaponry and may make the public even more furious that such dangerous experiments as could destroy a planet were happening behind their backs. It could (if played right) be a great public relations boost for the Hive in that we're stopping the Union/humans from killing themselves again and can help make our actions more understandable as well as giving our threats even more weight.

>>1688657
You are correct. We learned the Ceph ships all run on crystal drives from Coil relatively early in the Quest.
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>>1688655
Even if that's right the void crystals are really compact, and that means they have a huge density of power output. Power taps are big due to the need for complicated containment.

How small could we make a power source that could run one of those Void Cutter neutrino beam weapons? I doubt we could fit that kind of power on a ship anywhere near as small.
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>>1688664
We cant get the Neutrino beam to work

Cause they only work because the voids cares not one whit about our reality's laws,

the shards are just our reality representative of things from another dimension and the power flows from that dimension
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>>1688651
Agreed. We need to make crystal clear that we do not fuck around with Void shards period and that if the Union is not %100 truthful with us on this matter it will mean war.
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>>1688669
Dude, we just learned that the Union had some success testing Neutrino beams in one of their labs. If they can make it work we can. Whether we can make it work without risking sliding down the path of corruption, though, is another question altogether.
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>>1688672
They were probably using a shard with it
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>>1688674
That's almost certainly correct.

I wonder what would happen if we scaled up the neutrino weapons on ships with a captive shard and tried to fire them on a battleship or hive-ship scale instead of in small Ceph cutters...
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>>1688676
Piss off the void enough they get off there asses to beat the shit out of us?

I mean they just watching right now but the moment we start trying to use one of them they will react
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>>1688678
Yeah that would probably piss off the Void to no end. We need to somehow end their ability to observe us, without causing them to panic and send a ship to kill us...

One more long-term research project for the thinkers. Or perhaps a project we'll need to outsource so that the Void won't realize we're close to blocking its gaze until its too late to react.
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guys I'm just thinking out lound here but why haven't we killed them all yet? they have caused nothing but trouble and as we have said repeatedly endangered the entirety of space with their antics.

why don't we just cluster bomb every leader world of the union with hive creep and then just mop up the remains. don't take this very seriously but why don't we do it?
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>>1688688
Pain in the ass and they would unleash the shards on us in one last fuck you
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>>1688691
Plus the shitstorm from portions of the player-base would be horrendous
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>>1688691
>>1688697
huh okay....... I'm not sure they can use the shards but it makes sense they would try something like that.

and your right about the players. it would be a 50/50 split at best
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>>1688688
The Union might have an active black lab we don't know about on an asteroid in deep space or some such. It might cause the scientists there to attempt to make a pact with the Void to defeat the "evil" invaders. That would end poorly for all concerned.

On a diplomatic level, this would seriously frighten/piss off the Valen and might cause us to lose out on any tech or knowledge they have. The Valen strike me as a prospective slave race that was created by the Void but somehow avoided that fate. I want to know why.

It'd also cause Elizabeth and Theseus great distress in all probability, which would be bad for diplomacy on that end as well. We'd also have a risk of needing to divert so much attention and resources to an invasion of the Union we'd be left vulnerable to an attack from the OQ.

Finally, I think the Red Queen actually likes humans and doesn't want to enslave everyone like the Void does. She also doesn't want to harm her Mother's work (her "brothers") in humanity, and I believe actually sees substantial potential in them. The fact that humans can create entities like Theseus and individuals like Elizabeth gives a lot of credit to their long term capabilities even if they are prone to dangerous insanity from time to time.
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>>1688701
Yeah, the whole don't-become-the-monsters-we're-fighting angle seems important to me too.

What's the point in winning if we'll act just like the Obsidian Queen anyway?
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>>1688635
You find another report amended to the first, a short and concise memo.

Two additional active artifacts have been recovered and moved to deep storage during the standard operation of civilian assisted cleanup of Earth orbit. It is the recommendation of this panel that all civilian activity on and around Earth be terminated immediately and for the foreseeable future to prevent any potential containment incidents until such time as the ability to detect and entirely guarantee all artifacts have been cleared from the area, or study of the artifacts has reduced the potential threat of containment to negligible levels. You find another, an order stamped with a number of seals from the Secretary of Intelligence.

Research of inactive artifacts has met with failure on all fronts. Attempts to gather material samples have failed.
Attempts to destroy existing samples have failed. Inactive artifacts have been sent for deep storage unless requested by cleared personnel of the Prometheus Initiative. Special containment protocols have been delivered to all cleared administrative personnel and active artifacts shall be made available for further research and development. The following requests have been approved by the Union Research and Development division: One active artifact shall be delivered to Tenebrous research facility for functional material research. Four active artifacts shall be delivered to Olympus Shipards Pluto research and development facility for starship materials development. One active artifact shall be delivered to Tadega military testing facility site 15 for military application testing under Prometheus Initiative.


You find another report, a small memo with references to a weapons testing lab. The memo requests for a number of radiation suits to be supplied, as well as requesting repairs be made to a bunker due to damage from an unspecified source. It ends with a vague remark stating the test exceeded expectations, but remains inoperable without the artifact.

Another report, this one far more recent, holds a number of urgent tags for all administration with appropriate security clearance.

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>>1688688
Fucking A. I kinda wish I voted to eat Lee when I had the chance and put us firmly on the war course. All this diplomacy and espionage is taking an age and bringing us few results.

Needless to say, if they don't hand over those four shards immediately and unconditionally, then cluster bombing Gemini with nightmare hell spores is exactly what we will be doing.
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>>1688706
Union active void crystals: 6
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>>1688706
ah fuck so it was 8

and who knows how many on or around earth
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>>1688706
///ALERT\\\
Attention all project and administrative staff: Project Phantom administrative staff have come to the knowledge of a containment breach. A loss of primary asset unit 01 has resulted in a loss of four active artifacts. The possibility of all or some artifacts falling into enemy hands is considered high. Military force is recommended to recover all artifacts and destroy remaining sensitive materials. Destruction of artifacts remain impossible at present time.

Another alert is quick behind.
///ALERT\\\
Tenebrous testing facility has registered a containment breach of all systems. Status of breach is unknown. Cause of breach is unknown. Status of facility is unknown. Multiple alien and AI contacts have confirmed to engage unknown contact, resulting in destruction of the facility and active artifact. Active artifact is presumed destroyed with no remaining trace. Probability of alien contacts recovering the artifact is low but possible.

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>>1688706
>Four active artifacts shall be delivered to Olympus Shipards Pluto research and development facility for starship materials development.
WELL THEN, WHO'S UP FOR AN INVASION OF PLUTO BOYS
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>>1688706
And yep the neutrino beam needs a shard so its worthless tech to pursue given the risks

>>1688711
FUCK US

4 BROKE OUT AT THE SAME TIME WE INTERVENED AT NOWHERE

WE DIDNT STOP AN ACCIDENT AT NOWHERE

THEY WERE PLANNING SOMETHING BIG AND NOWHERE WAS JUST THE FIRST SHOT ACROSS THE BOW
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>>1688706
Note down these locations, Tenebrous and Pluto.
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>>1688717
And Tadega.
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>>1688716
Read between the lines, the loss of the four artifacts were listed seperately from the Tenebris incident, for something called 'Project Phantom'. That sounds more like mirage to me, especially considering that actually flying a void cutter required at least 4 crystals.

I think there just might FIVE crystals in that hunk of slag the Commonwealth is pulling out of that gas planet.
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>>1688720
I think this is right.

The Mirage was a clearly Void-powered stealth ship, and we blew it up as Killinger and pals were trying to use it to sabotage a meeting with the Confederacy.

What happened with the wreck of the Mirage?
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>>1688711
>Attention all project and administrative staff: Project Phantom administrative staff have come to the knowledge of a containment breach. A loss of primary asset unit 01 has resulted in a loss of four active artifacts. The possibility of all or some artifacts falling into enemy hands is considered high. Military force is recommended to recover all artifacts and destroy remaining sensitive materials. Destruction of artifacts remain impossible at present time.

Wait...

FOUR OF THEM BROKE CONTAINMENT BEFORE NOWHERE

Really Union... What the ever-loving fuck. Unbelievable.


>>1688720
Unless, the loss of four artifacts is what happened when they lost Mirage? Could they really have been dumb enough to store four active void shards on the Mirage?

If you're right this will be a moment of truth with the Commonwealth. Will they really deliver all the void crystals as promised, or will they try to hide some. It's time to see how far this alliance has paid off...
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Whelp.

I think it's time to stop fucking around and start seriously ramping up our ship and drone production and make some serious ultimatums and demands while preparing invasion fleets.

The Union fucked up hard, if we let them continue to fuck around like this they're going to doom us all.
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>>1688711
We need to find out who the hell is Unit 01.
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>>1688711
Also

>Active artifact is presumed destroyed with no remaining trace. Probability of alien contacts recovering the artifact is low but possible.

Nah, we recovered that shit. Void shards are more dangerous and durable than the Union knows, and the Hive is still more resourceful.
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>>1688708
You are boring
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>>1688725
"Probably" the Mirage. As their first ever stealth ship it could be considered Unit 01. But we don't know for sure at this point.

>>1688724
We've already sent the invasion fleets and demand ultimatums. It should be obvious to anyone we aren't exactly fucking around here. If they ignore our demands they will see just serious we really are...
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>>1688726
We recovered a broken shard if i recall correctly.
>>1688729
Yea now that i read it again it's probably just the Mirage.
False alarm folks, the containment breach was caused by us!
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>>1688674
>>1688676
There is literally nothing in the footage that indicates a void shard was at all connected or present.

They are rather un-missable when they're active, much larger than when they're inert.

The neutrino beam is known to require a large power source, there's no solid reason to assume crystals are needed yet.
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>>1688731
Probably best the Union continues to believe it was the crystals that caused the breach rather than our own stealth craft
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>>1688733
You find another report, a small memo with references to a weapons testing lab. The memo requests for a number of radiation suits to be supplied, as well as requesting repairs be made to a bunker due to damage from an unspecified source. It ends with a vague remark stating the test exceeded expectations, but remains inoperable without the artifact.

Damn beam is only worth while to use if a shard giving the power
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>>1688733
Making a prediction. The "neutrino" beams the cutters use are miniaturized psionic cannons and the neutrinos are the "muzzleflash"
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Alright let me get the count straight.
The union recovered 2 broken crystals and 6 active crystals from the moon.
They gave 4 active crystals to the Olympus guys which were used in the stealth ship the mirage which we blew up.
They gave 1 active crystal to Tenebrous which was rendered broken after the events of Nowhere.
They gave 1 active crystal to Tadega for military testing.
Excluding crystals gained from the Ceph, the Union has 1 active crystal and 2 brocken crystals to hand over to us.
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>>1688738
looks like it
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>>1688731
>False alarm folks, the containment breach was caused by us!

Boy, is my exoskeleton red!
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>>1688735
Remember, Devon overheard some of the Union council meeting in the aftermath of Mirage. A few of the council members were already muttering about the dangerous possibility of a third party with access to cloaking, nuclear weapons, and a vested interest in fucking with them, although that was dismissed as a long shot at the time.

With the emergence of the Hive who almost certainly has cloaking tech, has at least the nukes they stole from the Union, and has a massive demonstrated interest in the Void shards the Council would have to be complete idiots to not suspect we were involved in the Mirage incident at some level. Plus, we left some clues about our involvement in Mirage during the speech we gave to Parliament.
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>>1688739
No, it was six crystals in total, 2 broken and 4 active.All 4 active crystals were apparently integrated into the Mirage.

Which disturbs me, because it implies that the corruption of researchers and eventual violent breach of dimensional planes were the result of an 'inactive' shard. Which makes me wonder just what a broken shard is capable of.
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>>1688744
Learn to read anon. The very next post said that two more were recovered, likely from Ceph debris
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>>1688739
Sounds about right...

Although the Union might have recovered something from around Tenebris that isn't recorded here. They might have also recovered artifacts from the Expanse (as we originally suspected) that might not be recorded in the database for Moonraker
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>>1688744
Read again, 4 active artifacts found in >>1688635
and 2 more active artifacts found in >>1688706
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>>1688717
QD can't spell. It was Tenebris last time.

>>1688722
We already knew about four breaking containment. We literally caused the break in containment.
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>>1688747
>Although the Union might have recovered something from around Tenebris that isn't recorded here.

I mis-typed. I meant to say the Union might have recovered a shard or two from Toliman (where we blew up Mirage) before the CW came in.
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>>1688745
>likely from Ceph debris

That wouldn't be part of 'Moonraker', the one where they do salvage in the ruins of the moon, and the Ceph's paranoid masters have made it physically impossible to recover their precious crystals from wreckage.
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>>1688745
Where does QD mention Ceph debris. Maybe I'm blind, but it looks like he says:

>Two additional active artifacts have been recovered and moved to deep storage during the standard operation of civilian assisted cleanup of Earth orbit.
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It occurs to me to ask...

who is the current Senticom Executive Administrator, officially these days?

Dr. Smith lived an extremely long time from at least pre-Colony Wars to post-Theseus, probably because he traded his weak flesh for a body of steel long ago. So he's probably still kicking even now.

And is it Centicom or Senticom.
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>>1688721
It went into the gas giant. If I remember right, we were asking the Commonwealth to help us salvage it and figure out what was going on.
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You continue to sift through the data, reports and test results, memos and corporate or Union orders and requests, all materializing faster and faster as more and more related data is pulled into existence. There is another report, older than most of the others.

USV Ranger astrographic survey report, day twelve. Long range sensor reports indicate multiple habitable worlds across the Expanse, with apparent biosphere activity. They must be incredibly lush for us to pick up the thermal variance from our distant passing. No indication of Commonwealth activity, but there is a variance in the background radiation we can't account for. It matches the readings of the Hydra deep space array, and our science team believes we are close to the source of the blip. Local gravitation calculations indicate local dilation to be one to one-thousand, please provide for an extended time delay from this point onward due to proximity of local singularity.

The sudden appearance of the singularity, Proxima Omega, has resulted in a substantial fluctuation in local gravitation. It's still unknown if this is the cause of the variance in background radiation, but nobody has ever gotten this close to a black hole before, so we don't have a baseline to test against. We expect our survey to take no more than a week subjective. At this distance from the event horizon, that's going to be about a year and a half back home. We had to emerge a good distance away to prevent any accident with the warp drive, but on the way in we noticed something. The singularity holds a planet in a stable orbit. I'll say that again, because I don't believe it either, a stable orbit around a black hole. It doesn't have an atmosphere, obviously. It's hard to tell, but if it's as solid as our sensors say, it should have a gravity of about naught point seven. The crew have given it the nickname Limbo, and I'd like to request the official naming rights, given we were the first to spot it. I'd consider it an appropriate name. I expect we will be within survey range tomorrow. I'll send another report then, that should be in... a few weeks time for Gemini, and that will only be getting worse.

Sure enough, there is another report materializing into your mind as you trace the data.

USV Ranger astrographic survey report, day nineteen. We have detected some strange readings emanating from Limbo. We've launched a probe to investigate and will update any additional discoveries. As for Proxima Omega itself, three probes have been deployed, one is set on a course for the event horizon while the other two observe. All three are equipped with Q-comms for real time sensor readings. We will get what we can and report back our findings. Impact is scheduled for three days subjective.

The report holds a number of sensor readings as the planet orbits the black hole, with associated images of the event horizon.
cont.

>>1688764
Senticom, as in Sentient.
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>>1688766
>Freakish black hole
>With a planet somehow in orbit around it
>Giving off a steady stream of bizzare sensor readings
This is just tripping all the worst possible alarms. Where the hell is this place?
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>>1688772
Whatever it is, it's somewhere in or near the expanse.
It might be the ceph homeworld.
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>>1688772
They dubbed it "Proxima Omega," but that's odd and probably means nothing since Proxima is the star nearest to Sol and it's not in the Expanse at all.
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>>1688766
Habbening

And SOME people thought that this was going to be a huge waste of time.
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>>1688766
>It matches the readings of the Hydra deep space array

It occurs to me that the hive has never had to research deep-space long range scanning yet, so this has been sitting under the hive's antenna the entire time.
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WAIT!
What did the exodus ship map say again about that spot at the edge of the claw?
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>>1688783
...That it's in the Claw, and not the Expanse?

The humans haven't gone anywhere past the spinward nebula known as the Claw. This is in the Expanse.
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...we're not going to wrap this all up tonight are we?
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>>1688786
It doesn't look promising, does it.
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>>1688766
USV Ranger astrographic survey report, day twenty two. The sensor readings have continued as usual. The survey team has a theory it may be that the gravitational waves are disrupting the core of the planet in some way, meaning it may be at least partially liquid. They think we may be picking up a planetary EM field altered by the gravitational effects of Proxima Omega. It's as sound a theory as any, but it's not quite enough to put the rest of the crew at ease. We've been picking up some kind of phantom reading.
False blips on the sensors. We've been on and off high alert the past few days thinking it may be void cutters but we've scanned for emission variances and there's nothing but the background radiation and that signal from Limbo. What's stranger is that some of these phandom signals are oddly specific. The other day the computer actually got a silhouette match for the USV Valiant, which is impossible, and not just for the obvious reason. It was the first ship I ever served on, but it was decommissioned years ago. I mean, it popped up on screen as the Valiant, ID log and everything. It didn't have an IFF obviously, but it was enough to fool the computer's ID program and that was enough for me to have the engineers overhaul the whole sensor grid. They never found a thing wrong with the system. As for the signal on limbo, we've run it through every scan we have. It's some kind of multi spectrum frequency and the science team is split. They have given me the official explanation, but in private they are not so sure. Some of them are convinced the signal is artificial, which shouldn't be too unnerving given we already have made first contact with more than one species, but given the implications, I felt it was best to not alert the crew of the second theory.


The probes are closing in now, but the dilation is slowing them more than anticipated, but still within the margin of error. No human has ever actually seen one of these things before, let alone gotten so close. I expect a lot more of our readings will be far out of line with our expectations before this is over. The probe for Limbo is making better progress. I will send the report on its findings as soon as possible,
but the primary probe arrival has been set back another few days due to the dilation.

cont.

>>1688786
Sorry.
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>>1688788
It may be that big void sphere that blasted mom
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>The planet makes fucking ghost ships based on the minds in proximity to it
AaaaAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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>>1688788
>Sorry.
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>>1688788
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>>1688788
K it is the big void shard that killed mom
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>>1688788
USV Ranger astrographic survey report, day twenty four. The limbo survey probe has sent back its data, and I must admit we don't like it. I think we would all prefer the idea that this planet is just a strange coincidence of nature, but... well I've sent back the pictures. We have no idea what it is, but the current theory is it's some kind of alien infrastructure. There's no way to tell if it's currently inhabited or not, or even what it is, but we think it's somehow reacting to the probe. The surface is covered in some kind of crystalline substance but it defies any attempt to scan it. As our probe entered an orbit, our kinetic probe impacted. Standard prospecting procedure, but it didn't work. The surface absorbed all of the impact, and immediately afterwards a structure formed together and extended about six thousand kilometers to reach the probe. We lost contact with it after that, and then the planet returned to its normal appearance, and that signal, right back to normal. I'll be honest,
I ordered us to scrub the mission and pull back, but our course is locked in. I've ordered a course change to avoid the planet's orbit as we clear the black hole, but we're trapped in orbit for the next subjective week until we can slingshot back out. As a result, we will still be collecting the probe data as scheduled and will send in our report. The probe will enter the event horizon in the next few hours. I will establish a live link, although I'm sure it will be a long and boring video on your end.


The next few files are a series of videos and more sensor readings. Most are personal logs of crew, but you quickly find the probe recording, along with the next status report.

USV Ranger Astrographic survey report, day twenty five.
[bold]////BY DIRECT ORDER OF THE JOINT SECRETARIES OF THE UNION OF INDEPENDANT COLONIES THIS DATA HAS BEEN PURGED FROM ALL SECONDARY RECORDS. ACCESS TO DATA ARCHIVE BY PERSONAL APPROVAL BY THE UNION SECRETARY OF INTELLIGENCE ONLY. ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO ACCESS THIS REPORT WITHOUT DIRECT APPROVAL BY THE SITTING SECRETARY OF INTELLIGENCE SHALL BE CHARGED WITH TREASON UNDER UNION LAW.\\\\[/bold]

cont.
That was meant to be italics...
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>>1688809
fuck us all

There already here next to us
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>>1688811
Something crystalline was there many years ago before Mom's death. M-Maybe they moved since then!
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>>1688809
Wan't there a black hole within the nebula?
Either its that one or this blackhole just up and appeared somewhere near the expanse and disappeared gain.
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>>1688813
Sounds like a Void world from before Mother was hatched back during the original War in Heaven that the Mimics fled from

The Skyl histories talked about similar crystalline structures growing on their world and uplifting them
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>>1688813
Mom got killed just a year ago by this thing,

And it is still in the neighborhood

Waiting, and watching

AND IT KNOWS WHERE WE LIVE
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>>1688809
God dammit Union when.we think you fuck up bad we had no idea it was beyond any savung point.
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>>1688819
I think it might be time to start stabbing the monkeys now.
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>>1688822
Only those in the Union. Commonwealth still has the benefit of doubt.

Also i would to point out that Union managed to find the three ancient races of the universe and piss of all three of then.
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>>1688809
The video is dramatically sped up, turning the slow agonizing crawl of time into the real time of the subjective timeframe. With the compression, the time hardly lasts five minutes. The video offers three views, one for each probe, although all three have undergone a wide range of time compression so as to make them all line up under the same time frame. A rather difficult process that makes the viewing process difficult at best. The first probe can be seen from the other two slipping into the event horizon, its form stretching slowly but surely in the process of spaghettification. The probe begins to red shift, stretching out like a layer of jam spread out on toast, until it freezes in time, at least from the outside view, the photons of its appearance trapped in orbit forever at the precipice of the unknown.

The first probe's view is far different. Few things can strain the particle link of a quantum communications array, but you would expect a black hole would do it. It seems to last a short moment, however, showing the swirling curve of infinity as the universe shrinks more and more, until you can see the probe from its own camera feed as it it passes the photon sphere, and then the universe is behind, shrinking into a small orb of light, like a distant portal.

There is something else with the probe, there in the stygian void, devoid of time or space, but not empty.
Far from empty, the probe drifts, its readings a flatline across all spectrums as error reports come in from all directions. It impacts something, glancing off with minor damage as a great pillar of obsidian crystal shudders. A massive cluster of impossible shapes, its surface seems to remains still, yet is always shifting. Traces of images both alien and familiar dance within like reflections of firelight in a blackened mirror.

The video begins to waver, static filling the screen as the video cuts to a low power indicator, its atomic battery begins to run dry. As the video cuts out the other sensors continue, cut off one by one as the probe attempts to conserve power, and you watch the clock continue to accelerate. Years, centuries, millennia, and eventually the probe is lost entirely, the last of its broadcasting abilities failing as the entangled particle disconnects.

I am sorry to say we won't be getting through the whole raid tonight. Still, this sunday's thread should stay on schedule as a whole number thread and not another extension. I'll stick around for a while for any questions, comments and the like.
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>>1688828
GG and thanks for running

And this cliffhanger is absolutely terrifying

Epic
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEY
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
AND IT IS RIGHT BEHIND US
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>>1688828
Is that..the thing that uplifted the Skyl?
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GAS THE SQUIDS
NUKE THE WHALES
STAB THE MONKEYS
TRUST NOTHING
THE VOID IS WATCHING
AND IT IS ALREADY HERE
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>>1688828
Thanks for running, QD.

Might have strong words with the Union, and some more stuff to talk about with the Cluster.
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>>1688828
Thank you for running. Now I think I'll have to change into a fresh pair of pants after that.

>>1688836
Yes. Strong words. Words with strength measured in multiple kilotons of explosive force.
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>>1688838

>Producing kilotons of speakers.
>Sending them all into Union Parliament at once.

I like the cut of your jib.
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>>1688827
>Also i would to point out that Union managed to find the three ancient races of the universe and piss of all three of then.

This is as beautiful as it is accurate. These chucklefucks don't have a very good track record going, do they?
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White Queen from beyon the grave said: "Creating The Blind/Humanity was a mistake."
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>>1688847
No, no...creating them was a good idea.

Not giving their drive to research shit an off-switch? That was a mistake.
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>>1688818
The anomaly that attacked the White Queen was a flowing warp of spacetime like liquid mercury. It didn't in any way resemble the sharp angles of crystals seen here.

It's still unclear if the enemy faction is one singular consciousness-body or if there are multiple components.

>>1688816
>similar crystalline structures

Yadontsay.

They didn't grow, what the Ceph called a Singing Stone landed from the sky. One giant monolith crystal, that broke up into smaller crystals later.

Which seems almost completely different from here, where the entire planet's surface is living crystal.
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>>1688828
Thanks for running QD!
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>>1688851
Let be real here. The way they are behaving it's a surprise they haven't be extincted yet.
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By The Mother, what a ride!
We need more spies in unions labs

Thanks for running QD
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And people said this would be a waste of time!
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>>1688839
Well, I was talking about nukes, but a mass speaker induced psionic mega implosion in the heart of parliament would work pretty well too.
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>>1688866
Less mentioned was the fact that bothering to access moonraker in particular is slightly suspicious and will probably show up in the records when they see what was accessed.
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The seven that are one comes...
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>>1688779
'Proxima' means 'nearest', so it's nearest to the end?
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>>1688828
Thanks for running!
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>>1688828
Something seems odd.

We've sent an advanced relay pod through an event horizon, and the connection didn't persist past it, we lost contact.

Even though relays work just fine across pocket dimensions just like quantum comms do, like inside a warp bubble.
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>>1688921
>Something seems odd.
>YaDon'tSay.jpg

This is probably the Void construct that killed Mom.
Given that the Void appears to live in this black hole itself, even Theseus's singularity weapons will probably be useless against it. Looks like the Psi cannon really is our only hope to take this thing out.
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>>1688828
Thanks for running QD, it's been great!

How long ago was this video? Was it taken before or after Mom died?
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>>1688828
thanks for running it was fantastic
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>>1688828
Thanks for running QD. This thread was intense
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>>1688988
>How long ago was this video? Was it taken before or after Mom died?

See
>>1688766
>There is another report, older than most of the others.

Most of the reports are quite old, but Mom only died a year or so ago. For this report to be older than most of the others the Void must have emerged from null space for a few years before it actually moved to kill Mom. Maybe it takes a protracted process for the Void to fully emerge into real space through their black holes and they only started the slow process of breaking into this realm when Mom made progress on the psi-cannon?

Could they be creating another singularity that will be coming for us now? We should get our own deep space array...
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>>1689037
nice chair
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>>1688836
To be fair to the Union,this only happned around the te of Nowhere or earlier, so its not that they arnt learning,its just that this has been a very,VERY,bad week for them.Now,if we find evidence that they start up research after our warning,then we we can try out our Speaker Orbital Bombardment. Until then,we just need to keep an eye out.
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/1487290/#p1487762
>We have remained steadfast in our choice, but how long must we wait? Close to victory. We heard this before your ark had launched. We heard it before the Slave serpents burned the Diamond Halls of your elders. We heard it before the Pearl of the Queens was driven to supernova. Before the devastation of the Crawling Worlds and before the Stone Star was sent hurling into the Palace of Thought.

>A vast, world spanning hive, covered in glittering structures shattering like glass as another world falls down upon the surface. Swarms of Skyl ships bombard a vast spire reaching into orbit as swarms of hive craft rip at their formations. A star slowly dims from the view of some nearby starship as its surface becomes covered in pinpricks of shadow, and the star shrinks, suddenly and fiercely, then there is blinding light and searing heat.

Limbo is probably one of those things.
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>>1689263
I doubt it. The various things described in your quote: "The crawling worlds, the diamond halls, the palace of thought, the pearl of the queens, etc." are all things that have been destroyed at a location very far away from here a very long time ago.

I suspect this could be where the Void physically manifested to murder Mom, but it could also be the Ceph homeworld. According to the logs the "singularity" was detected before the Union even started colonizing the Expanse, it could have been there undetected or unassailable by the Hives some time before the Union stumbled upon it. Previously QD used the below image to describe how the Ceph world looks. Remind you of anything?
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37027385/images/1419831407105.jpg
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>>1689331
I don't think it's the Ceph homeworld because the Valen smuggle Ceph from there, and no way is anyone getting smuggled out via warp gate from the singularity's gravity well.
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>>1689331
>>1689354
Also it can't be the Ceph homeworld because from Coil's memories their world is completely covered in oceans

My guess is the Ceph homeworld was somehow pulled INTO No-Space somehow

Like a reverse of what happened at Nowhere where something from No-Space was pulled into our reality
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>>1689364
The world covered in oceans could be inside the singularity?
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>>1689388
Or whatever dimension the Singularity leads to
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>>1689364
What if their planets ocean are simply...underwater?Coil's memories said the "sky" had no stars and the investigation of the planet orbiting the blackhole said the core was likely liquid.
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>>1689494
*underground
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>>1688766
>I'll say that again, because I don't believe it either, a stable orbit around a black hole.
What's so unbelievable about that?
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>>1689670
It can't have been there before the star collapsed into a black hole, since the orbit wouldn't have survived the nova.
The physics of getting something from not-in-orbit to in-close-orbit require a pretty giant amount of work and are extremely unlikely to occur naturally.
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>>1689670
Planets don't form around black holes, any the star had originally are pretty much destroyed by the black hole's creation when the original star goes supernova and collapses into a singularity.

That means it had to be captured later, and the odds of a planet moving at the correct velocity and on the right vector to enter a stable orbit are laughably unlikely even on the astronomic scale. It should have been eaten, or at least torn apart by tidal stresses. Especially this close to the event horizon.
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>>1689730
>Planets don't form around black holes
Why not? Put an accretion disk there, wait a few million years, planets.
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>>1689735
Because the accretion disc is consumed. It's not like a planet's rings. It's all gas and dust in a -decaying- orbit.

I recommend wikiwandering a bit.
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>>1689755
There is no reason for the orbit to be decaying unless it's incredibly close. What are you even talking about?
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>>1689766
Start. Wikiwandering. If you want me to tutor you, it's not gonna be free.
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>>1689766
I will tell you this though, a black hole wouldn't have a planetary formation disc for the same reason it wouldn't have fucking planets. Everything is blown off when the original star goes supernova.

And everything after that is dragged in by gravity. Why would anything enter a stable orbit? Just because? For the sake of your pet idea? Are you pretending to be retarded or just too lazy to cure your own ignorance?
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>>1689786
>a black hole wouldn't have a planetary formation disc
Why not?

>Everything is blown off when the original star goes supernova.
Yeah, and then it comes back. Matter occasionally falling into black holes is actually one of the only things we know about them for sure, and if it can fall in it can also fall near them and start to orbit.

>Why would anything enter a stable orbit? Just because?
For the same reason it enters any other orbit. Yes, just because. That's how physical laws work. A black hole isn't any different than a star as far as its gravity field goes, just bigger.
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>>1689829
>just bigger

I don't think you appreciate just how much of a difference that makes. Go fucking wikiwander.

.
>Yeah, and then it comes back. Matter occasionally falling into black holes is actually one of the only things we know about them for sure, and if it can fall in it can also fall near them and start to orbit

Yes, exactly. FALLS. INTO. Does not 'enter stable orbit'. You're contradicting your own argument at this point. Fuck off troll.
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>>1689829
>Then it comes back.
No, it gets blown off and then it either stays blown off or it's sucked into a decaying orbit.

>For the same reason it enters any other orbit.
No, stable orbits are different. Planets form in stable orbits around stars because everything in a solar system forms gradually out of an accretion disc. When a star actually coalesces out of the whole shindig it's not really that much of a change, and everything that was in a stable orbit before mostly remains there. This as opposed to a supernova event, where a tremendous amount of force is exerted on all bodies present in the system (disrupting any existing orbits), and then afterwards even if something HAD remained in place then the difference in size between the former star and the new blackhole will cause instabilities.

Then, the above having accounted for everything present inside the solar system being either gone or eaten, you deal with objects that were never a part of the accretion disc that eventually lead to our new black hole...all of which have such dramatic trajectories (and the band of trajectories that would produce stable orbits is so small) that black holes just don't have planets around them.
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>>1689860
>I don't think you appreciate just how much of a difference that makes. Go fucking wikiwander.
I don't think you appreciate how irrelevant it is, actually.


>Yes, exactly. FALLS. INTO. Does not 'enter stable orbit'. You're contradicting your own argument at this point.
I.... anon, did you read what I wrote? I mean, you did copy it into green text... Do you have a learning disability?
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>>1689829
>Yeah, and then it comes back.
Please sketch the path you are envisioning the matter taking from original orbit to supernova to new orbit so I can point at you and laugh.
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>>1689882
It slowly falls into the black hole's gravity well as the hole passes through interstellar space, just like any other start accreting matter. Also, just like with any other star, while large amounts of the matter either escapes again because of its trajectory or it ends up falling into the celestial body at the center of the system, some of it ends up on stable orbital trajectories. When there is enough such matter, it slowly accretes into planets.

Simple as fug, anon
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>>1689933
No sketch provided, 0/10 points. Please follow all directions.
Do not see me after class.
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>>1689860
>>1689876
>>1689881

In real life it would be highly unusual when a black hole forms after a massive super nova for there to be enough matter left behind for a planet to form in a stable close orbit. Besides which a super nova this close to Earth should have had a detectable impact on our planet when there was none. For all intents and purposes the Union is looking at a black hole and stable orbiting planet in the middle of nowhere with no evidence for how they got there, which is extremely irregular.


At the end the of the day does it really matter if a planet is able to orbit a black hole in real life, though. QD isn't a scientist and although I love exploring all the scientific theories mentioned in the quest, this isn't exactly a hard sci-fi setting. Ultimately if the Union scientists find it weird, it's weird in universe.
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>>1689941
>In real life it would be highly unusual when a black hole forms after a massive super nova for there to be enough matter left behind for a planet to form in a stable close orbit.
You're assuming here that we're only talking about a time frame immediately after the supernova happened. Why? There's literally billions of years available for new planets to form.
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>>1689941
>
At the end the of the day does it really matter if a planet is able to orbit a black hole in real life, though. QD isn't a scientist and although I love exploring all the scientific theories mentioned in the quest, this isn't exactly a hard sci-fi setting. Ultimately if the Union scientists find it weird, it's weird in universe.
Yeah, now that you mention it, this reminds me of that cloud of space floating organic substances from a while ago, which was supposed to be remarkable, even though organic substances are everywhere out there.
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>>1689933
>It slowly falls into the black hole's gravity well as the hole passes through interstellar space, just like any other start accreting matter. Also, just like with any other star, while large amounts of the matter either escapes again because of its trajectory or it ends up falling into the celestial body at the center of the system, some of it ends up on stable orbital trajectories. When there is enough such matter, it slowly accretes into planets.
And what happens those planets when they keep getting hit by outside matter that's in the process of falling in?
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>>1689991
Ask yourself what happens to our planet everyday.
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>>1689991
Please stop responding to the bait
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>>1689991
>And what happens those planets when they keep getting hit by outside matter that's in the process of falling in?
They get pretty craters :^)
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>>1689998

Are you insinuating that earth orbit is anywhere near as crowded as the cloud of dust around a black hole?

You're as fucking retarded as >>1690001 Both of you, >>>/mlp/
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>>1690006
>Are you insinuating that earth orbit is anywhere near as crowded as the cloud of dust around a black hole?
Are you insinuating that the cloud of dust around a black hole is somehow unique compared to a cloud around a star of similar mass?
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>>1690010
Yes, it's denser and in a more heated and excited state whose energy levels preclude gravitational attraction whilst its orbit decays and is consumed. :^) Now fuck off dipshit.
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>>1690041
You're forgetting to mention that the orbiting body is also at significantly higher speed for a given orbital distance.
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>>1690041
We aren't talking about the immediate vicinity around the hole, planets can form at distances far greater than that. Even a Mercury equivalent would be far enough to not give a shit about those things during formation, and as I assume (or maybe hope?) you know, planets can form at far greater distances than that still.

>>1690052
No it's not. It's simple math, nigger. If you compare a stellar mass black hole to a star of similar mass, the orbits will be at the same speed.
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I'm ending this bullshit.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/1911/is-there-any-stable-orbit-around-a-black-hole
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>>1690061
Hey retard, question is if a planet can get to that orbit not if a planet can be in that orbit.
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>>1690061
Yes, we know there are stable orbits.

The question was if planets could form, and while theoretically possible there are no known examples and the odds are loooooong.

Longer even than a rogue planet being captured by a black hole and not just ripped apart by tidal stresses and consumed.
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>>1690069
No reason it couldn't.
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>>1690077
>the odds are loooooong.
Why don't you give some sort of argument for this? The only thing anyone has come up with was that the supernova kicks out matter from the vicinity, which while true, is only relevant in a time frame between thousands and millions of years.
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>>1690093
I already have? I mean if you're too goddamn dense here it is again: A rogue planet has to be moving at a precise vector and velocity relative to the black hole in order to be captured into a stable orbit. The closer that orbit is to the event horizon, the faster it has to be.

Any planet moving at a significant fraction of C relative to a black hole is gonna slam into the particles and gasses around it and go off like a planet-sized mass of antimatter before it can even have a chance at an orbit.

It doesn't need to be argued, it just has to be thought about. You're stupid, lazy, or trolling and need to fuck off and get some knowledge.

This is all leaving aside the fact that rogue planets are already rare as fuck you mongoloid.
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>this whole arguement
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After OQ's failure in scouting the human worlds, what are the chances that, this thing is probably going to cltry crash land into the human worlds and try to corrupt the humans?
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