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>>1635414

You are the Courier, "Executor" of your very own Phoenix Commonwealth of America. As the firebird breaks from the sheltered eggshell of BigMT, absorbing the precious resources around its nest, you are compelled to make peace with the great Bear that roars louder around you, as claws lock with the horns of the Bull and the Mutants.

Following the mass defection of one Odd Ball, once an influential now notorious entrepreneur within your own land conditions have stabilized under your watchful, if not too watchful, eyes which are everywhere, as you continue to shape a security AI to your liking in a project that has yet to continue. Old obsolete robots are scrapped, to make way for the ever increasing number of prototypes and designs of newer and more powerful robots that slowly join the ranks of your force.

Even so, you have also advanced the plight of your human military, augmenting them with such bionic implants that you yourself posses, enhancing their skills beyond that of most natural men. Smarter, faster, stronger, harder they read the and reap the bounties of books and manuals both old and new as written by the wealth of information from yourself and your companions, and now practice and hone in these skills facing the desert creatures, sharpening them for the war that must surely be over one horizon or another.

Continuing projects are undertaken to strengthen the hold of your nation, from the security AI, to the Solar Plant, the railroad, the FEV plant, and many more blueprints, waiting for the opportunity to be unleashed.

And as always, resource proves the most precious, and to these ends trade is done and, new rail lines are being built, connecting you to new outposts over the location of precious resource, as you grow accustomed to having a neighbor fully aware of you.
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!NEW!
>>>>>Food: Below Average (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Average]
Passive Booze Ration: Low (higher for soldiers)
>>>>>Water: Below (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Average]
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Stable)
!NEW!
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Average) Fissile (Above Average)
Scrap Wood (tiny)
!NEW!
Special Electronics (---) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (---) [Falling] Alien Tech Scraps (low) Hexcrete Bags (Very Low) Plant Material (Tiny)
Trona Minerals (Low)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low) Ethanol (uses Food)
>>>>>Total Pop: 215 Humans (and companions) +55 Infants +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons
(Legion) - Moderate
-Conventional Firearms
(Legion) - Moderate
(Mercenary) - Moderate
-Energy Firearms
(Human Plasma/Laser) - Below Average
(Alien) - Below Average
(Chinese Alien-Jurry Rigged) - Below Average
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniforms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Armor)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Big Rifles)
(35 Dr. Mobius Scrubs + Dr. Mobius Glasses)

Alert!

You have earned a Holiday Boon for the 4th of July (which I had a test that day and the day after).

The start of next turn is the 2nd anniversary of Founding Day!

You can use this turn to do any preparations you wish.
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>OUTPOSTS<

--CHINA RANCH--
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 50 Securitrons MKV. +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower.
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

--TRONA---
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 50 Securitrons MKV +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

---NEWBERRY SPRINGS---
++BigMT Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 50 Securitrons MK5 +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Houses. Lake. Hemp Farm (Small). Banana Yucata (Medium) Spice Farm (tiny)
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. *Nat100* Robot Defenses.
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other: Omni-Agronator!

NEW!

---THE TWIN MINES (West+South)---
>>>>>Military: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Railroads. Open Pit Quarry.
>>>>>Defenses: Mountain
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other:
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---THE CRATER---
>>>>>Morale: Average (Stable)
Permanent: Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>Current Pop:
35 Human
20 Infants
1 Ghoul
>>>>>Garrison:
5 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick, Dean Domino, Slave
+1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
+10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
+10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
+33 Securitrons MKV
+60 Small Flyer Repairbots
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
+50 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital. 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation.) The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. Military HQ/Barracks (Great). Boom Town Shooting Course Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Chemical Mill (Small)
Magneto Hydraulics Plant Robotics Facility
Cass' Multipurpose Ethanol/Alcohol Distillery (Tiny)
X-12 Biological Research Plant (Small)
Automated Hexcrete Plant (Small)
Securitron Deconstructino Plant / General Robotics Research Facility (Small)
X-13 Research Factility / Medical VR University (Small)
Doppler Radar
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few)
Watch Towers. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 1 Giant Crane (Ruined) 1 Alien Scoutship (INTACT)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Researchers (Followers of the Apocalypse)
+45 Assorted Research Robots (normal)
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)
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---NEW WASHINGTON---
>>>>>Morale: Average (Stable)
Permanent: Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
164 Human
35 Infants
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans} {Augmented!}
88 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}{Augmented!}
40 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats” (Various)
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
+125 Securitrons MKV
+125 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
1 Presidental Manor
100 Hexcrete Hex Houses (Indoor plumbing/Shower, electricity)
Asphault Roads. Sewer System. Night Lamps.
Desert Landscaping
Spring Well. Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Concrete School House (Tiny)
Glass Mill (Small)
Public Washing Machines.
Water Treatment/Fertilizer Plant
(Small) Bar + Cafeteria + Kitchen
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Fuel Semi Truck, 7 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Mining Specialized) Jacob Mile's Mr. Fix-It Frame. 5 Chinese Supply Trucks
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+19 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+9 Baby Brahmin
+30 Mr. Howdy's Farming Robots

1 General Boon
1 Robotics Research Boon
1 FOUNDING DAY BOON

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 94
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>>1644045
You mislinked QM.


Also remember folks, Super mutants need housing, and FEV labs need to be built.
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>>1644045
Construction. Make a powder Plant, we're on 90% and we can't make more robots without power.

Military. Train our sneak team, to able to blend in with the enemy. Having spies will be helpful to get insider info.

Research. A efficient powder plant?

Hero: Can either help with independence day, or he can go on a sneaking mission, to NCR to get some blueprints, or some books not sold to the public.

Civ: Can prepare for independence

We should look into buying more of the cows/brahmin. So we can run a stable diet of meat. More cows, allow for more milk, and milk that people like. also to transport goods.
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>>1644045
Do you want us to roll with our choices? Or are you going to tell us when to roll?
>>1644069
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>>1644071
Preferably the former, but I'll remind you when you forget.
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Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>1644073
K here my roll and my choices.
>>1644069
You only take the first 3 rolls right?
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>>1644045
>Civ go get the stuff for more hexcrete and help build the power plant

>Hero get to work on the founding day stuff with friends/family that are free, have the younglings and kids help as a nation building trip thing.

>Military, Get used to your new bodies and train with recon

>Con, Finish power planet.

>RnD Robots to work within the FEV labs.
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>1644045
>hero
spend time with the kids and wives and other companions
>civ
expand the bar
>construct
Finish the solar plant
>research'
Finish the Intelligence AI
>military
recruit military engineers
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>>1644078
Typically unless dice shenanigans, which isn't just crits but other secret things.
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

Construction
Continue working on our solar plant, if we dont have the materials, use the construction action To get the materials

Civillian
Setup our bigbrother AI. Qm said we only had a general action left.
Hero

Millitary -begin prepping for founding day parades.

Robo research
Work on designing a radio AI, something similar to Mr.New Vegas.

Free action- paint dem securitrons.

Securitron paint scheme from last thread
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Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>1644045
Also roll for this >>1644079 cause I forgot.
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>>1644069
i am pretty certain we can't research a efficient power plant since it's not related to robots.
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>>1644084
actually do this. instead of >>1644080


For the DJ AI, I was thinking, to contrast Mr. New Vegas, the personality be one of those chill spinster type women, the type you see at Who concerts or something.
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>>1644084
Hero action that i missed, is the same as >>1644079
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>>1644084
I agree to change my vote for this. From this >>1644069

>>1644090
I'm a bit new, so I'll learn as we go along.
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>>1644096
So we normal have 4 actions, of the possible 5, but if the research is robotics based, then we can take all 5 actions.
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>>1644127
As long as we dont try to do a research AND a robotics research
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>>1644140
right. no double dipping actions. At least, not yet.
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>>1644073
Just so we're clear this is the final treaty agreement with the NCR?

>Non-aggression
YES
>Respect of mutually agreed borders
YES
>Respect of the right of conquest towards territories annexed by the NCR or the Phoenix Enclave, as part of pre-determined borders
YES
>Refusal to trade or support enemies of the NCR
NO
>Refusal to hide or provide sanctuary to those deemed enemies, traitors, frumentarii, or malignants to the NCR
NO
Does the NCR have military access or just caravan movement?

>>1644146
>>1644140
When the NCR asks for military access. I'm thinking about asking for something in return. Also we can't outright refuse them, but at most we can ask for some supplies, even "help" them if they pay us.
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>>1644182
P'much.

You haven't opened the borders, neither have they for anything but diplomatic envoys.
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>>1644182
Im fine with that.
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>>1644182
Probably just toll them. We do own a stretch of the I-15. Might have to build a detour to keep them away from Baker though.
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>>1644084
Has 3 votes i think qm
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>>1644188
What are we waiting for OP?

Supporting
>>1644084
And this hero >>1644079
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>>1644242
back.

>>1644084
LOCKED

Writing!

>Do you wish to spend a Holiday Boon?
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>>1644257
CHOOSE:
Y/N
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>>1644257
the founding day starts next turn, yes?
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>>1644257
Sure
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>>1644257
yeee
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>>1644263
Yes.
Only the best for our Victory day.
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>>1644265
Yes
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>>1644265
Actually, i say we use the boon next turn on founding day, its nore thematically appropriate
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>>1644257
No, don't spend the boon guys, with that boon we can make our Vending machines use electricity instead of fissile materials.
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>>1644263
no. Best keep it so the actual party is off the chain, not the prep.
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Currently you have:
1 General Boon
1 Holiday Boon
1 Robotics Boon
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>>1644287
Wait what's the difference between them? Can Holiday boons be only used for holidays and celebrations?
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>>1644291
Thematically it'd be appropriate, especially considering your faction.

But boons typically apply to a whole turn.
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>>1644298
So we can use a holiday boon for a celebration and to make our Vending machines use electricity instead of fissile materials if it's on the same turn?
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>>1644311
The Turn has already been locked.
Not going to answer that at this time.
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>>1644287>>1644316
If victory day is next turn. We could not use the boon until on the day.
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>>1644323
Technically speaking this is what happened last time. Preparations must be made for any sort of celebration after all, much like the celebrations you did last time.
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>>1644328
K So using a boon to prepare will be like having a boon at the holiday? If so I agree to use it.
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>>1644335
Yup.
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>>1644084
>Civillian + Hero
>Setup our bigbrother AI. Qm said we only had a general action left.

>Robo research
>Work on designing a radio AI, something similar to Mr.New Vegas.

It strikes you that, in making these two things, you might be able to kill two birds with one stone. Or you could still make two separate AI's

CHOOSE:
-Pick Someone to set the personality for our new Radio AI. Like Moreno, or Dean Domino, or someone friendly like Ben.
>Oh! Or perhaps a girl. That would be very popular everywhere. Someone like Jane or Marilyn.
-Go Find Mr. New Vegas! Maybe we can recover him
-Perhaps if we expanded our Man in Black Security AI to both roles. Maybe make him a little less spooky?
-Other? (Perhaps you would like to reference something not even in the game!)
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>>1644391
>Find Mr. New Vegas and his new Co-Host, Ms. New Phoenix.
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>>1644406
Would you like Ms. New Phoenix to be based on anyone?
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>>1644391
Ms New Phoenix should be someone rougher than Mr. New Vegas.
I'm thinking Cass

As for Mr. New Vegas, he's probably tied to the Lucky 38. Way too much of a hastle
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>>1644413
Whoses the Most Chasma fucker we got thats a woman? Unity?
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>>1644406
I agree with this.

>>1644413
For ms. Phoenix I'm thinking a female role model for the girls.
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>>1644427
Technically yes, but Charisma isn't everything. Personality, tone of voice, attitude, whatever you find most appealing.
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>>1644406
I support this.

As to who should be the woman, If were going for charisma, I would say Unity, but if you want confidence and determination, i say Cass or Veronica

Big brother has enough on his plate
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>>1644406
>>1644430
>>1644454
LOCKED

Writing

>>1644454
1 for Unity
>>1644425
1 for Cass
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So it appears our two most favoured choices are Cass, and unity.
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>>1644502
I'll go with Cass.
Unity has a daughter to take care of.
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>>1644406
Supporting this as well.
Male voice - Moreno (shock jock type)
Female voice - Unity (calm, warm, reassuring)

Great contrasting personalities
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>>1644504
I feel as if Unity is too, passive?, to be a radio host. Especially when paired with Mr. New Vegas. We want someone rougher around the edges to play up some contrast.
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>>1644514
>>1644510
Ill switch to cass, i beleive thats a good offset to Mr New Vegas
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>>1644502
I think we have 3 for cass
Me >>1644510
>>1644526
>>1644425
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>>1644391
A quick ZAP, and you're back to the Mojave. Back to Caesars new Rome.

And the Mojave is certainly changed.

Those outlying settlements and villages now bloom green. You see stretches of stone aqueducts extending from the snowcapped mountains, or from far off and no doubt the Hoover Dam, flowing water into the once arid Mojave turning parts of it green with wheat and fruit.

The villages have expanded considerably. It being only a few years most of these are probably not from population growth but likely from further immigration from the east.

But your goal is to find and rescue Mr. New Vegas, if there is anything left of him. It does strike you that the most obvious place would have to be somewhere with a working Radio Tower.

You wonder about the mystery of Mr. New Vegas. How does he know so much? Does he simply listen to the people on the Strip for their rumors. Yet he is highly accurate and knows of things beyond the strip. Particularly telling is that he knew about your "rising from the dead".

So perhaps, his eyes and ears, like Victor, were the Securitrons themselves. Hopping from one robot to another.

Maybe. That's just one theory.

It strikes you that if he were indeed a creation of House, and ergo, a return to the lucky 38 is warranted.
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>>1644597

We need to come back some time in the future when our army is capable enough. Fuck Caesar's worthless Luddite take on technology that isn't good for killing shit
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>>1644625
obviously. But for now, Lucky 38, find Mr. New Vegas's hard drive and ditch.
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Brb anon's, I am NOT done for the night but I promise I'll be running later in a few hours. Getting some IRL distractions
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>>1644630

For Caesar's desecration I propose that we give him the most undignified, humiliating, and painful death we can suffer. A message to whoever wants to repeat this worthless parasite's history
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>>1644625
Seems like they are using the river to grow shit. Instand of repairing the dam for energy.

>>1644647
Is the dam just a bridge now? Is the dam still holding back the water or the water is flowing because of the blast?
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Part of me want to build a digger robot that way we can make escape tunnels, for our people.

Odd Ball had a escape tunnel and it worked out great.

Also having some underground storage space could be useful. Who knows we can make ant robots as a way to keep noisy people away. Just thinking with robots, we can remake lost animals with robots, or help with our industry.
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>>1644680
We really are NOD aren't we?
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>>1644680
If we had a tunneler we could just dig a tunnel through the boarder mountain into the mojave. Would mean we wouldn't have to slog through the divide.
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>>1644697
Underground Railroad

Maybe have a robot with a big drill, make the tunnel, we make the supports, and railway. It's going to take time and supplies, but in the end we get a secret tunnel to transport things to and fro, faster and less chance of enemies coming in and ruining it.
Just some problems, is underground creatures/monsters, tunnelers, but it's something to think about.
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>>1644680

Dinosaur warbots when?

>>1644710

Is it possible that we could tame the tunnelers?
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>>1644710
Fire. Burn em out. The only good bug is a dead bug. It's not like robots are going to be chocked out by lack of oxygen
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>>1644717
>Dinosaur warbots when?
Yes, we can look at animals for ideas to use on robots.

We have EDE as a floating robot, but what about making a robot in the shape of a bird mostly to spy on stuff.

There also a idea of making small dive bomber, a robot that can fly is build and hold a mini-nuke. They will either be really quick and reach the target and blow up the mini-nuke, or be like a small bomber shape like a bird to drop a mini-nukes at enemy locations.
The smaller and quicker the robot the less harm it can come to it. Also first time facing this new robot, enemies would think it's a harmless bird from afar.

>>1644718
>Fire. Burn em out. The only good bug is a dead bug. It's not like robots are going to be chocked out by lack of oxygen
Yeah that can work, what are some uses we can do with the dirt dug up from tunnels? I know there's going to be dirt, and stone, maybe we can find a hidden aquifer.

Some defenses we can easily make is sandbags, we're all around desert, and with enough sandbags it can stop the caliber the NCR is using. Robots can easily do the job/
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>>1644755
Stealth UAV's should be developed. Surveillance, Recon and surgical strikes. If it flies above the clouds, they may not see it before it lets loose its payload.
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>>1644755
I had the thought of taking our robo scorpion design, and shrinking them down too the size of an actual scorpion, deploy them in swarms and use them as dissasemblers/shredders.
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>>1644761
Opposite of mine then.
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Scorpion_tank_(Tiberian_Twilight)
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>>1644760
We killed the space mercenary a lot time ago. And here are the spoils we got from them.
>+7 Space Mercenary Armor
>+7 Super-Caliber Recoil Assist Rifles
>"Did he just call his planet dirt? Look at that primitive power armor. Is that fucking nuclear powered?"

They seem to think our armor is primitive, we could check out the armor they had, if it can use to make improvements. If anything it can be used for other officers.
Space Mercs, could have better suits than us. And the guns could be useful in our research.
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>>1644768
I gotta say i think that looks awful personally, but from a practical standpoint if it gets the job done appearances dont reallly matter.
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>>1644771
What exactly about it's appearance looks awful? Cause personally i think a giant robo scorpion bursting from the ground to attack a tank with it's claws and melt it with it's tail laser is awesome.
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>>1644771
have to agree. Scorpion tanks from TW looked better. Especially once fully upgraded with the laser cannon and mower
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>>1644778
The act you described, yes sounds awesome, but when I see the tank in the link, it just looks like someone gave 50%effort to make it scorpion theme.

I'm not voting against it, I just feel it looks more goofy, than deadly.
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>>1644778
They look kinda silly. With the wheels and the dinky claws and the tail that sticks up like a flag pole. I know it's a small obelisk of light, but it looks funny in motion.

Now I want to build obelisks of light.
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>>1644792
>>1644790
>>1644778
>Waggle waggle waggle
>Whoses a good Scorpion tank?
>Yes you are.
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>>1644792
>>1644779

Thoughts?
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>>1644795
and a smaller one i found
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>>1644795
Much less goofy looking. And we already have the base robo-scorpion tech, so this would just be building on it.
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>>1644790
>>1644792
we don't have to build the TT scorpion tank, we are in Big MT after all. I posted that link cause i want to make a tank that does what the TT scorpion tank does, ambush, disable and destroy.
>>1644795
The Gatling guns should be ditched for Robo scorpion claws that can EMP, maybe we could put internal Gatling guns or flamethrowers in the claws.
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Heavier version
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>>1644804
What is this from? these are super neat.
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>>1644801
Ditching gatling guns would be simple enough. Could even go so far as to make modular weapon mounts

Another scorpion design
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>>1644805
Just me google searching under [scifi scorpion tank]
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Only other one i could find that's decent, this one more art than design
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No armor panels in this one, dont know how i feel about that.


..... ill stop now
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>>1644822
Like OP said.
Bigger and More armored is easier than Smaller and economically.

What I want is always the scorpion is useful, the thing I feel we need most is tactically weapons. Like a robot that's the size of bird, dropping mini-nukes on enemy positions.

Sometimes you got to think what will hurt the enemy the most if they try to attack us. Hidden weapons sometimes causes the most damage.
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>>1644822
I like how the tiny arms are a knife and fork.

Like how after it murders you with its massive stinger, it sits down for a spot of fine dining.
Ready at any moment to have a meal in high society.
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>>1644836
it's also wearing a bowtie
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>>1644841
Fancy Scorpion ready for all occasions
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having a hard time staying awake, think I'm gonna dip for the night.
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>>1644835
>Sometimes you got to think what will hurt the enemy the most if they try to attack us. Hidden weapons sometimes causes the most damage.
Exactly why i want to build scorpion tanks, desert ambushes against the NCR's tanks.
>>1644836
>>1644841
>2 scorpion tanks sitting in a desert.
>"More M4 Sherman sir?"
>"Yes please."
>"They are delicious aren't they sir? Would you like this one rare, medium or well done"
>"Rare please, and they are certainly the best thing i've tasted in a while, you're cooking is truly refined"
>"You flatter me sir." over the sound of a heat ray cooking a metal tank lightly and shortly.
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>>1644852
>Exactly why i want to build scorpion tanks, desert ambushes against the NCR's tanks.
To do that I make my point of making digger robots. Maybe making exist points from our town, as if we're being attack, we can flank them by the tunnels we made before.

Also the scorpion tanks will need to be able to dig the ground if we go with that desert ambushes.
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>>1644874
Sounds like c&c generals tunnel network.
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Tunnel_Network
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>>1644880
Yes that's the plan. Underground rails will help us move supplies quickly.

We could work on the government, like a military structure. Making a mail system, recreate the internet so our people can send e-mails, and look up information in our website.
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>>1644502
Unity. I hate Cass
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How feasible is it for us to make flyers? Replicate the alien tech and get fast attack craft to take down boomer bombers for example?
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>>1645263
The thing about the alien tech is that it need alien material.

There is planes that the NCR are flying, (We can steal some blueprints of them, unless we already have some in bigMT) but for the alien tech we're going to spend some turns to learn more about it.
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>>1644769
We'll get around to it once we build PA research lab
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>>1645356
Ayy Lmao.

I colored a map, just a heads up. The lighter red, or green is mountains like the Rocky mountains. Don't know if the San Francisco been annex. Don't know if the Legion are connected or separated.

Fallout Tactics is non cannon don't know if OP want it to be cannon in the thread. Blue in NCR is us, and that deep red near us is the divide, don't know how far it goes north. Tried my best.

But here is a map, there is map of Fallout 3 and 4, but we don't know what;s happening. I made the map so we have a easily time knowing what's going on with the world.

Hope you like it :^). You can edit it all you want, just save and use Ms Paint.
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>>1645410
I think tictacs is in this quest.
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>>1644795
>>1644799
>>1644804
>>1644814
These are more robots than tanks
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>>1644647
Dammit my alarm didn't go off.
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>>1644804
>>1644806
>>1644814
>>1644822
>>1644795
These designs are DOCTOR MOBIUS approved
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>>1645475
I hope we get Dr. Mobius bonus if we decide to make them
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>>1645475
QM what do you think about the map I posted? I know it's not finished but it's a start.

If you give boon on art, isn't a map give us a boon. Just because it make life for us eaiser.
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>>1645495
It's nice. I'll think of something decent.

I won't say its 100% accurate, but with the NCR's shifting fronts and shifting territorial claims, and no one truly knowing the full extent of the Legion, even in universe it would be hard to find a 100% accurate map.
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>>1645509
Yeah making a map is hard to do. Also it's really depends on you OP what extend the legion has.

But I feel I at least got 70% right, that good enough for the people of the wastes. So it's good enough for us.

Our nation and the things around will be the most important thing on the map, while the rest is up to decied and us to find out.

Just saying the map can be changed as we move along. The map is helpful showing how big is our nation. I think I did a good job on us, and the divide, but don't know how long it goes for.
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>>1645509
>>1645519


We could just put a spy satellite into orbit
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>>1644391
New Vegas. The Old Spirit giving way to the new. Little of the scrap steel and rubble'd ruins remain now, replaced by manicured marble and stone. The Colloseum project of Caesars, that great behemoth, worked by slaves and men day and night for three years nearly in completion. A monument to Caesar.

The Lucky 38 has changed as well, bearing the insignia of the Bull. That radio tower you installed on the roof is gone, replaced by a bronze statue of Caesar himself, overlooking his own city.

Invisible to all, you make your way past the crowds of pilgrims, civilians, slaves and soldiers once more you move into the Lucky 38.

The Casino within is all but gone. Changed now into a great trophy room of the Legion's spoils of war, attended by slaves.

Not bothering with the penthouse, you make your way down a service stairs to the basement. The old Securitron Testing room. Now without securitrons, or equipment. Abandoned. But not entirely.

There is a door here, a vault door. Caesar could not wipe the sign of the Lucky 38 from it.

You take the platinum chip and enter it into the slot, going into the building.
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>>1645573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVzUAqbAaaw

You hear music playing as machinery hums around you, while you look for a terminal. There you find one, with a camera above it, and you step into the light to be seen.

>Mr. New Vegas
"Well . . .Howdy! I am the one, the only, Mr. New Vegas! and I'm very pleased to make your acquaintance. Perhaps you've heard of me?"

>You
[Hello Mr. New Vegas. I'm the Courier from Goodsprings. You're a very famous person]

>Mr. New Vegas
"The Courier from Goodsprings, what an amazing meeting. I hear I'm almost as famous as you!"

>You
[Hah. How has business been?]

>Mr. New Vegas
"Well. . . I'm sorry to say, business hasn't been up to par. Mr. House, the father of New Vegas, dissapeared one day. Then the Securitrons left, leaving me blind as well as dumb. All I had were the Camera's on the strip itself, until Caesars legion removed even those and the radio tower too.

Now I think my broadcast isn't even leaving the room"

>You
[That's a shame. Tell you what though, I got a proposition for you]

>Mr. New Vegas
"And what might that be?"

>You
[Come with me. Leave Caesars city, work out west and bring your news and your music to people who want to hear it again]
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Love mr new Vegas. Gotta be the best radio.host in any of the fallout games.
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>>1645625
Has to chill on the Johnny Guitar though. Its not that great.
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>>1645603
>Mr. New Vegas
"Now hold on there. I might not have as many eyes and ears as I once did, but I do have a few.

And I did hear what Caesar's new protegee said about your desert settlement.

You're out there, alone and isolated, trying to hide from the NCR. Now it sounds to me like I'd be exchanging one lonely prison for another."

>You
[Well surely even a single settlement is better than nobody listening to you at all]

>Mr. New Vegas
"Maybe. . .but if you'd be willing to do me a favor. . .I would like to see the NCR."

>You
[Why is that?]

>Mr. New Vegas
"Because then, I'd be able to do what I do best. Report on the news. News for a big city and a big country."

--

>Eh, just take him and reprogram him
>Try to convince him to your cause
>Other?
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Rolled 55 (1d100)

>>1645643
>Try to convince him to your cause

We actually arent hiding from the NCR anymore, thanks to the treaties. Besides, theyve turned into nazis, is freaky.
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>>1645653
And we have all the securitrons he loves so much, plus his own radio partner!

Has he ever had a partner?
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>>1645653
1 for this

Too bad the Courier doesn't know what a nazi is
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Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>1645643
Convince him.
NCR kinda has a book burning, media censorship thing going on. You wont really like it. We'd give you more creative freedom

Side note, Ceaser knows avout us and it seems Vulpes is moving up in the world, unless the protege is the mutant.
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>>1645643
"We're not hiding from NCR anymore.

How do you plan to visit NCR actually?"
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>>1645657
Eh, my bad. Im just waking up, sorry if my argument isnt that eloquent
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>>1645653
>>1645643
>>1645659

Am I understanding him right? I think he just wants to visit the place.

It depends if NCR agrees (which I doubt they will), we can build him a humanoid body which he can use to interact and report in ncr.
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>>1645667
I think he wants to see if the NCR is worth settling down in. We want him to settle in our lands and maybe go to the ncr to report.
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>>1645674
Yeah, the whole censor and book burning thing will hopefully turn him off. Unless he wants to start a pirate station.
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>>1645603
>>1645643
Is this Mr. New Vegas? The one whose boss we still have in cryopod?
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>>1645643
"we are just a small fledgling nation right now, yes, but we will grow bigger. Already we have made progress in record time, things that others haven't been able in many decades.
We will take over Vegas and Mohave soon enough and you'll have your listeners."

"What was that ceasers protégé? You can eavesdrop on Caesar?"
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>>1645656
And talk guests!

I mean, why not? We could have our companions regularly come and share their stories, secrets, etc. For example, we could have a Saturday evening show where Riddick narrates his real adventures. People would think it's just some enthralling sci-fi stories.

Milton and Tom taking about the old world
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>>1645688
Yes

>>1645735
And call ins! With the bigbrother sustem2, we can enable mr newvegas to allow peopleto call in to his show. Im talking radio contests and the like.

....dont knoq of that will appeal to him.
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>>1645751
Jesus my typing.
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>>1645751
And we can have a weekly fireside chat shere we answer peoples questions directly. e someone suggested a bit back
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Besides, if he reconnects to the securitrons, hell see the NCR warfront when we send robots as part of the trade deal [if were still doing that]
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>>1645751
>>1645758

Direct feedback from our citizens? Beats sneaking around and listening in their conversations.
They could also send their suggestions and complaints to Mr Vegas, which we can overlook.
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>>1645762
I support majority of deals. We should also send doctors
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>>1645767
When we build a mobile medical bay for the doctor deal, we can include a reporter body so our people can get news from the fronts.
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>>1645783
I support that.
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Catching up since I went to sleep at a reasonable time for once.


>>1644625
Say what you will about Ceasar, he has achieved much with what he had: uneducated tribals.

>>1644648
Personally I want to just take him as a pet / adviser. Plus having him could make it easier to absorb the remnants of his people.

>>1644652
Of course they want the water, they don't use electricity and yes the water is free flowing now I'd presume.

>>1644680
Such a robot would be useful, especially since we know there are underground rivers in our region which we could exploit for more water.
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>>1645808

>Say what you will about Ceasar, he has achieved much with what he had: uneducated tribals.

And what's that exactly? Being nothing really more than a marauding band of murderers, slavers, rapists, torturers? The only reason that they've lasted so long is on luck, slaves, and the fact that the NCR was a bloated from corruption to do next to nothing. What with having people like Moore and Oliver there dealing with them, I'm surprised the NCR held out as long as it did.

>Personally I want to just take him as a pet / adviser. Plus having him could make it easier to absorb the remnants of his people.

I'd rather see Caesar get executed personally by Joshua. The only parts of the Legion that can honestly be saved are the slaves

>Of course they want the water, they don't use electricity and yes the water is free flowing now I'd presume.

Because the Legion has a bunch of goddamn morons. They're led by a moron with a higher IQ because he was smart enough to trick the idiots back when they were just random tribes in the Wastes.

>>1645699

I've got the feeling Caesar's protégé is someone who's either like him, or someone who we could be sure allows us to annex the Legion by forcing him to give it up.
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>>1645875
>I've got the feeling Caesar's protégé is someone who's either like him, or someone who we could be sure allows us to annex the Legion by forcing him to give it up.


... It's the legion prisoner who's escaped
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>>1645875
Im thinking vulpes or the super legionnaire if dala made him particularly more clever.
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>>1645653
>Mr. New Vegas
"Maybe, but you're still all alone out there"

>>1645659
>Mr. New Vegas
"I have heard some rumors about that. I do like the idea of creative freedom. You know, even I have to say, though I've come to love my music. . .I wonder if people might like something new as well."

>>1645660
>Mr. New Vegas
"To report for them. To be the voice that brings music and news in a country that is rich with it. Like the Mojave."

>>1645699
>Mr. New Vegas
"A growing nation eh.

Only a little bit, before he found the last of the microphones. They call him Hercules."

>>1645735
>>1645751
"Radio talk shows and adventurer's stories? Tales of the Old World? Now that is some juicy news."

>>1645763
"Interactive radio with customer feed back. I like it."

--

"You know, as much as I want to visit the NCR, you're offering some sweet deals. And then, you're here, the NCR is not. I suppose if you do free me, I owe you a bit of a debt.

Very well. I'll be your little radio host in the desert. I just hope one day, I'll come back to see my beautiful Vegas again too."
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>>1645875
>And what's that exactly?
A stable civilisation.

>Being nothing really more than a marauding band of murderers, slavers, rapists, torturers?
Seeing as you are now talking about their mobile pacification force now, two of those things are expected. One of them makes sense for their tech level and the last one is just a result of tribals.

>The only reason that they've lasted so long is on luck
Then why have they held and advanced to within 100 miles away from the NCR capital for 3 years? Luck? Really?

>slaves
And? Nothing wrong with slavery and theirs is a strangely beautiful and effective system.

>the fact that the NCR was a bloated from corruption to do next to nothing. What with having people like Moore and Oliver there dealing with them, I'm surprised the NCR held out as long as it did.
The NCR held out as long as it did because Ceaser underestimated them and they were lucky. Not to mention them having guns in every soldiers hand.

>I'd rather see Caesar get executed personally by Joshua.
If we are going to kill him, sure.

>The only parts of the Legion that can honestly be saved are the slaves
That is a horrible position.

>Because the Legion has a bunch of goddamn morons. They're led by a moron with a higher IQ because he was smart enough to trick the idiots back when they were just random tribes in the Wastes.
That is a strange position, it is more so because of a technophobic position than any lack of intelligence on their part.


>>1645877
That is quite a possibility. Seeing the remarks in >>1645884 it seems almost certain.
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>>1645884
>You know, even I have to say, though I've come to love my music. . .I wonder if people might like something new as well.
Funny you say that we have acquired an orchestra from a group allied to us and the old world singer: Dean domino. If you want to make new stuff just ask and they can be brought in to help.
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>>1645884
Do you have more music stored than what you ususally played? Or was the near onstant johnny guitar due to lack of selection?
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>>1645901
"Any idea how many people come down here? Not that many. House never felt the need to update me but it doesn't seem like there was much in the way of new music since the bombs fell anyway. Whatever music there was, I had."
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>>1645884

"Not to worry there, when we take back Vegas. You'll be back home doing what you do best."

>>1645889

>A stable civilization

It's all based on Caesar really

>Then why have they held and advanced to within 100 miles away from the NCR capital for 3 years? Luck? Really?

We've kept to ourselves, and when we did make ourselves known to the NCR we played smart and made sure not to piss them off

>And? Nothing wrong with slavery and theirs is a strangely beautiful and effective system.

Tell that to the people actually enslaved to them

>That is a horrible position

It's the ONLY position. The rest are a bunch of blind fanatics dedicated to a narcissist who's dying of a brain tumor. Besides, who are those guys Caesar has to help him?

Vulpes? You've seen what that fucker did to Nipton, while I hardly feel sympathy for the Powder Gangers. He was brutal in how it went. Plus, you know, bribed the Omertas to chlorine bomb the Strip.

Lanius? While he may be more intelligent than a lot of Caesar's soldiers, he's a vicious asshole who believes in a Darwinian take of training troops.

>That is a strange position, it is more so because of a technophobic position than any lack of intelligence on their part.

Technophobia is a sign of a lack of intelligence. While I wouldn't say they're all morons, they're just obsessed with it to the point of idiocy.
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>>1645914
Well it seems Ceaser found his Augustus, who is a nice combo of lanius, joshua and vulpes, so the legion might have more survivability now, even after ceasars death.
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>>1645917

Then we better handle him first. And as for Caesar, we better find ourselves a Brutus and a Cassius
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>>1645914
>Tell that to the people actually enslaved to them
Could always talk to them. You even have one.
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>>1645926
What's he been doing? Just laying back, enjoying the good life? Passively absorbing the national ideals?
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>>1645929
Cooking. Cleaning. Caring for your child. Repairing your robots. Learning. Worshiping his Gods. He's a lot like Raul, only with a lot less lip.
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>>1645914
>It's all based on Caesar really
In the game, yes. In quest? I don't know the way that everything is, I feel that even with his death it wouldn't fall back into tribes. At worst it would be kingdoms like when China shatters in history.

>We've kept to ourselves, and when we did make ourselves known to the NCR we played smart and made sure not to piss them off
I think you misunderstood what I meant.

I am asking, if their advances and growth have been purely because of luck. Then how have they, in a straight slugging match, managed to hold and gain ground in such a way as to be within 100 miles of the NCR capital and still seemingly be coming? After 3 years of constant fighting, not just here but everywhere? Against the ever more industrialised NCR?

>Tell that to the people actually enslaved to them
From the slave we have they don't conceive of themselves as ever being anything but a slave which seemingly he was fine with.

>Besides, who are those guys Caesar has to help him?
People trained or otherwise well fitted for their roles.

>Vulpes? You've seen what that fucker did to Nipton, while I hardly feel sympathy for the Powder Gangers. He was brutal in how it went.
And? His brutality ensures no resistance. Also in quest the powder gangers joined the Legion so I don't know what you are talking about.

>Plus, you know, bribed the Omertas to chlorine bomb the Strip.
Actually that was their own action, they didn't communicate with the Legion.

>Lanius? While he may be more intelligent than a lot of Caesar's soldiers, he's a vicious asshole who believes in a Darwinian take of training troops.
That is the standard position of the legion and works frankly, assuming you don't mind the loss of life which they don't.

>Technophobia is a sign of a lack of intelligence.
Then by that logic the Amish are lacking in intelligence.

>While I wouldn't say they're all morons
You literally did though, in your previous post.

>they're just obsessed with it to the point of idiocy.
Not really, I mean in the fallout universe technology has screwed humanity over. Also they aren't obsessed with it, most of them couldn't give two fucks but they are aware that the world ended because of tech and thus don't want much to do with it in their lives.


>>1645929
He takes care of our kids I think.
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>>1645934
Dont blame the gun, blane the gunman.

Technology was used to screw the world, but it didnt screw it. The people who couldnt coexist or share or care for each other screwed the world
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Guys who we grab mr. House?
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>>1645945
We cant. Hes in an air tight pod that he cant leave or he dies of infections. Hes on constant life support, and hed probably have a coronary if he looked outside.
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>>1645940
>Dont blame the gun, blane the gunman.
Your metaphor is flawed. The technological societies had to use their nuclear weapons to defend their remaining resources and sovereignty against the other nations.

The alternative had already played out in Europe after their war with the middle eastern states. Nations fell, armies turned, millions starved and order collapsed.

This isn't us talking about a gunman. This is us talking about making the decision between a quick death with a chance of life or a slow death with no return.

These people, in their lifestyles, shall never encounter such a problem.

>Technology was used to screw the world, but it didnt screw it. The people who couldnt coexist or share or care for each other screwed the world
They couldn't coexist because of radically different views and ideals.

Now why does that sound familiar? The US and China, now the NCR and the Legion. There are always two.
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>>1645926

That's true really

>>1645933

Oh gee I wonder why that is?

>>1645934

>Then by that logic the Amish are lacking in intelligence.

It's not exactly what I'm saying, what I mean to say is that when you're in a situation where the world has gone to shit and tech like medicines and the like can be used to help yourself and those you care about. But don't based on a belief that technology that "Well technology destroyed the world, that shit's evil." then you're an idiot.

>>1645949

How about we both stop? Let's get back to thinking to our future, on how to deal with Nazis and the Mongols.

And discuss some ways to improve upon the military
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>>1645948
Hook him up to an alient battery and 'capture' him via the Alien scout ship.
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You bring back a Securitron Base-Box, the brains of one. You don't need to bring all this heavy Radio equipment, just enough to store Mr. House in his most diluted form and take some of the music holotapes with you. Like Victor or Yes Man would have done.

--

As you return home, you want to figure out that secondary AI, as a co-anchor. The female one you were considering.

You think about Unity. She has that sweet bubbly voice of youth, yet also displays motherly attitude. She can be funny, kind, and sweet and very often mysterious.

Then Cass, the firebrand, somewhat sarcastic but fierce hearted woman who earns many things from other men. Respect, fear, and for more than a few, unreciprocated affection. Sounds like the sort of stubborn woman lady liberty oughta be. Her accent is probably the most down to earth and recognizable among the mass.

>CHOOSE
>Cass
>Unity
>Other?
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>>1645955
>How about we both stop? Let's get back to thinking to our future, on how to deal with Nazis and the Mongols.
Agreed.

>And discuss some ways to improve upon the military
Well I've gotten the TACT bot / brain unit designed and thus we can now perform long range offensive military operations.


As to future enhancements, are we going to make use of every and any possible weapon we can? Or are we abiding some code of laws / ethics I should know about?
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>>1645955
>Oh gee I wonder why that is?
Probably because he has to type to speak.
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>>1645960
>Cass

Honestly the more i think about it, Unity isn't the type of firebrand, we named ourselves after. Cass on the other hand is.
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>>1645958
Too much effort, for too little gain. He's not important. If we really worry about ceaser getting to him we can just kill him while were here.

Otherwise we can let him sit until we reconquer new vegas
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>>1645960
>Cass
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>>1645960
Cass
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>>1645961

Well since we decided to take a note from Nod with a scorpion tank. I thought of something, why not take a note from the Scrin and use centipede tanks?

>>1645960

>Cass

Because I want drunken radio antics from time to time

>>1645962

>Probably because he has to type to speak.

Yeah I know, just wanted to joke. And a quick question, what's happened with Rex, Roxie and Gabe?

>>1645965

And then what? We get the new guy who may turn out to be worse
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>>1645960
Cass
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>>1645975
I meant kill house while were at the 38
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>>1645975
>Well since we decided to take a note from Nod with a scorpion tank. I thought of something, why not take a note from the Scrin and use centipede tanks?
Centipede, eh? Would be very reliable...but it would probably be energy intensive...we can see about it.
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>>1645982

Yeah, each segment could be able to have a different weapon on it for more versatility. Another idea for a weapon I have is more of something that's unorthodox in how it'd be, I have a general idea but I can't seem to hammer out the details
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>>1645992
Seems a bit excessive to be honest. Could probably stick with something simpler, like tiberium sun devil tongues, fir subterranian attacks
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>>1645994

Still more practical than using displaced gloves, that's for sure
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>>1645960
Unity ;_;
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>>1645962
It's a free action to cure him and some people suggested don't that. Why haven't we done so?
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>>1645964
>>1645969
>>1645971
>>1645975
>>1645977
>You
[I want to put electrodes on your scalp so I can scan your brain to make a copy of your personality as a radio talk show host]

>Cass
". . .

And here I thought I drank too much. You outta your mind or what"

>You
[I'm serious.]

>Cass
"And I'm sober enough to want to know why."

>You
[You've got what I need. Hotheaded attitude that isn't mean or cruel. Stubborn but not a fanatic. And that California country accent. Just exactly the type of woman I see a Lady Liberty type figure to be."

>Cass
"You know you're a dictator right?"

>You
"And honest too. Look, will you do it for me?"

>Cass
"Eh, look I'll be honest. I got some words for you first. First time you kept me "safe" from the Caravans, all cooped up in hiding places I couldn't stand it. Cottonwood Cove, now those were some fun scraps and bad times. Gotta admit the exodus was fun as hell too.

Next, you and your Anti-NCR Agenda. I was getting ready to leave you there on the spot. But I saw what you did to those slaves, free'd them, gave them something worth fighting for, did more than the troopers would have done for sure. NCR is my country, and I've got words for you if you intend to actually 'wage a war' against them.

And then staying in one place for three years, I don't reckon how I didn't leave from the sound of it. Especially cooped up in that house. Guess it was the good company and the drink. But I hated soft living, almost as much as living in the same place.

But you know what has kept me here? Its the one thing you always had the NCR didn't. Compass. You free slaves but don't take em, didn't even sell any women to that alien freak. I'm on the fence about that boy you bought, but I heard you were trying to rehabilitate him to freedom. You're trying to bring something good to the people here.

Then the rumors about the NCR straightening up. Let me tell you something, when those people started a going, I was in my mind to leave and see the NCR for myself.

But now, seeing what they did, what they do to tribals? All this yap to "savages" saying join or die? I can't sit right with that. I'm not even sure if it's my country anymore.

So in between the Legion, who I'd sooner felate a cazador's stinger than join, and whatever monster the NCR is becoming I guess I really only have you as the alternative."

She takes a deep sigh, having gotten something off her chest.

"You gonna get started jamming wires into my hair or what."
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>>1646032
Ooooo thats not the only thing ill jam in you ifn you let me
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>>1646020

She's gotta take care of our kid anon.

>>1646023

...I didn't realize that was something to do. Well shit man, let's do that.

>>1646037

Lewd
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>>1646039
>Unity
"Not just Sam, I take care of about 100 kids at Baker you know. Not withstanding the occasional babysitting I do for your other companions too."
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>>1646039
If its free to fix him, we should do it.
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>>1646023
>>1646039
>>1646048
To clarify, what do you want to suggest to Couripor?
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>>1646060
Like, what is it you are trying to do? Just give him the ability to speak?
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>>1646074
Yeah. Let's fix his muteness for now. I'm not sure if he's ready to get his collar removed.
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>>1646074
Yeah. He can wear the collar until hes ready to have it removex.
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>>1646074
Give him the ability to speak. Maybe make it so he has his collar but it can be removed and placed back on. Make some speech about it representing us giving him the choice to be his own owner but that we will respect his will.
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>>1646078
>>1646084
>>1646117
You tell Couripor you wish for him to speak, and to step into the Auto Doc. He complies, faithfully, and steps in.

>Auto Doc
"This one's got one em collars back at little Yangtze. Is this a removal?"

>You
[Not this time]

>Auto Doc
"You're call then this one's a dud it seems. No explosives."

---

He steps out, collar still on, and a fresh scar over his neck.

>Auto Doc
"That oughta do it. Now, there'll be no voice for about a couple more days, maybe a week. But he'll be yapping his mouth of in no time! Now I want lots of rest, some cool water or popsicles for a few days until he can handle some mashed potatos. .."
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>>1646151
>Tfw Slave collars are all duds, They just had a few 'actual ones' that killed people
Its fucking great
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>>1646151
Did we remove the explosives, or were there never any explosives?
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>>1646156
>>1646158
Keeping the explosives on the collars are for training and breaking. They are an optional accessory.

Slaves which are fully broken often don't have them, after all it'd be a bad idea to have a slave end up blowing up your home. Even if they didn't hurt anyone with some precisely small explosives, what a waste and a mess.

In legion lands, it is enough to simply have them visibly on the person to mark you out in society.
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>>1646169
not gonna lie, Pretty smart.
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Op could you do me a favour and remind me the speed of our alien craft? Preferably in miles.
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>>1646205
If we really wanted to make some fun wed fly the ufo to washington dc, nuke the citadel and go on a general rampage. And visably fly west.
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>>1645884
Could you do a Mr Vegas request list like we did for the think tank? We don't have everything we offered yet
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>>1644084
>Civillian
>Setup our bigbrother AI. Qm said we only had a general action left.

You're scratching your head as you work overtime. Because you just convinced Mr. New Vegas you can put your entire research team on the Big Brother AI.

Everything is practically in place. You have the Super Computer. You have the personality basis. You even have some pictures based on Yules himself.

But it's missing something, some ' je ne sais quoi' according to the Brain. Whatever that means.

You struggle thinking about how to make this fit according to your vision, but you forget what your vision is. You spend a few nights toming over books of BigMT on espionage and counter espionage. On spies and anti-spies. On surveilance and monitoring.

But its an unlikely source of inspiration that strikes you like a lightning bolt. One of the Old World spy novels from the NCR.

It hits you exactly how you should model your AI.

---

Everything is ready, just to turn it on.

>You
[<Personality Matrix::Initialize>]

The Securitron whirs to life, one of the many bodies that will be its eyes and ears, the image handcrafted by you stares back. Sharp dressed, pistol in hand, occasionally a glass in the other.

>AI
"Initializing. . .hello Mr. Executor. How might I be of service today?"

>Do you want to give him a name?
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>>1646235
James...James Bond.
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>>1646235
Bond. James Bond.


.... What?
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>>1646235
>James Bond
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>>1646241
Its bond, james bond.
>>1646235
I guess james bind is now an american
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>>1646251
Bond, not bind
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>>1646246
>>1646243
>>1646241
>>1646251
You feel a rush of energy, as if the spirit of your long lost tribe calls to you, compelling you to name as they would have named a spy: James Bond.

The name means nothing seemingly, but everything at the same time.

>James Bond
"Understood Mr. Executor. I am sworn ever to your service, in peace and at war."

Congratulations, you have a new Companion! James Bond is a highly specialized Intelligence and Counter Intelligence AI.
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>>1646260
We need to get him an upgrade package named Golden Gun at some point.
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>>1646260
Sweet. We should get it its own humanoid robot body.
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>>1646263
See since we are giving the securitrons a paint job with golden highlights. He has golden guns already.

However I do think that we can improve him further. Possibly the application of specialised spy and police bots?
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>>1646269
I had suggested police bots. Humanoid, light, with non lethal package. Would be much cheaper than securitons and would free up our military bots.
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>>1646269
First we shoukd set up the rest if the alexa functionalities- like speakers in peoples homes so he can repond to them.

And get people radios so they can listen ti the inaugural radio broadcast
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>>1646281
This. We need to finish it 100% before we move on to the next project.
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>>1646295
We shoukd set up the radio station so it starts broadcasting on founding day.
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>>1646276
I suggested something similar. I'd point out we don't even need "beat" bots thanks to the observation system for the most part.

>>1646281
The rest of the functions will be easier to do now we have the AI working. It's just a matter of adding onto the code and shit now. Maybe a little bit of construction work.
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>>1646260
I feel the tribe tribe, would have just named a spy spy
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>>1646307
Actually if we build speakers into all the houses, then people would have surround sound in every room. We wouldnt have to give them radios or house phones- the house would be loaded with microphones and speakers.
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James bond doesn't look half bad in a securitron
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>>1646319
Thats not a bad idea.
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>>1646333
Think about it. Want to call your buddy?

James, call joe

Want to listen to the radio?

James, tune into mr new vegas
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>>1646346
"James open the doors."

"I'm afraid I can't do that Dave."
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>>1646357
>>1646346
>>1646333
>Tfw Mr. New Vegas and James are constantly in a shadow war of information
>Tfw they make it publicly seem like they are enemies
>Tfw they are actually best friends.
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>>1646363
Who do you think is James biggest informant?

Reporters make the best spies.
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For those of you who want to color your own securitron , this is the original I used.
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I think now is a good time to mention, once we have finished with the Observation system / Alexa functions. I want to get round to updating our securitrons with the new legs and upgrading them all to the Hazard designation.
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>>1646380
Agree but I think we lack resources for that.
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>>1646380
Leave the securitrins to police towns. We should start buikding some of the dedicated warbots, like riddick's dreadbot. Building dedicated scavenger bots woukd also be more efficient
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>>1646384
We'll know once we finish the railroad to Trona (I think that still needs to be finished) and building our solar power. Once we know what we have left to work with we can decide.

>>1646387
>Leave the securitrins to police towns.
You want to leave the heavily armoured, grenade, rocket, laser and machine-gun armed robots to act as police? Rather than just making some eye-bots with tasers or something?

>We should start building some of the dedicated war-bots, like riddick's dread-bot.
Look, I think we should get rid of the TV screens (possibly re-purpose them as actual TV's or something for people's houses?) and then just use the Securitrons. Especially since most of the warbot designs are very expensive to produce or situational and many of them are dead-ends which we can't modify easily.

>Building dedicated scavenger bots would also be more efficient
Except the region we are scavenging in is filled with Marked men, death-claws and tunnellers. So it is best if everything can fight.

We can make dedicated scavengers later but these work best for now.
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Back, had to be distracted for reasons.

>>1644084
>BOON
With Founding Day looming, everyone works extra hard to prepare for this years celebration. Its been some tough times going, so giving the people something to cheer about would be good for morale.

As such, Jacob Miles pushes himself even harder, striving to meet deadline and early, pushing every man and machine at his disposal. And just at the very last night before founding day, delivers.

Your new Solar Tower is built, increasing your power and truly is a monument worth to be proud of. Tomorrow, when the celebrations are ready, you will light up the sky with the fires of solar light!
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>>1646450
What power!
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>>1646426
Rail road is finished. Just need a train. Solar plant should be finished now.

I guess overhauling the securitrons are okay if we do as much as you said. But i thibk we shiuld send a shipment of powerloaders to the NCR to have enough of a stockpile of metal to work with.
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Also we should really see the commies and try and strengthen the bonds between our people. Maybe we can convince them our brand of almost-communism is better / good enough.


Speaking of communism, I remember something from my studies of communism in the USSR and shit. One man that I remembered and we could make use of was a soviet miner:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Stakhanov

As his efforts resulted in a popular movement among the workers and government:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakhanovite_movement

There were awards given to citizens / workers with "exceptional productivity" and competitions held over 5 to 30 day periods to establish who these people were. According to the soviet statistics, these efforts resulted in decent increases in productivity and I feel we could achieve such things with our people.

The wiki has more information and further things it did but the main point is we could probably make large gains in our productivity with small incentives. Things like doubled alcohol rations for the best worker / top 10% would easily incite people to work harder, even outside of this system's existence / publication.

All we'd need do is create leader-boards if such a system as described seems hard to do. As no one ever wants to be at the bottom of those and thus will work harder. However we would need to work out ways of defining productivity precisely for such a leader-board. Hours of labour might work but that doesn't raise productivity per hour...
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Your civilians are in for a real treat this year, especially as all of them wake up to a very familiar, but entirely unexpected voice coming from the loudspeakers and radios.

>Mr. Vegas
"Goooood morning New Washington. This is Mr. New Vegas, and in case your wondering, yes you are awake to a beautiful morning dawn. I'm your radio host, Mr. New Vegas, running the Mr New Vegas show under new management and venue. And now to introduce my cohost, the lovely, Ms. New Washington.

And how are we feeling today?"

>Ms. New Washington
"Feelin' like a brand new woman. Howdy folks, this is Ms New Washington and you better be listening in cause we got a special program lined up for everyone today. Ain't that right?"

>Mr. Vegas
"You know it. Today's programming will include a live coverage of this years Founding Day parade and the activation of New Washington's very own Solar Collection tower. In addition, Executor Courier has announced the promotion of one Captain Judah Kreger, to General of the Army of the Phoenix Enclave."

>Ms. New Washington
"And who can forget the fireworks and best of all, the refreshments later today right after the ceremonies. Come out on out and celebrate!"

Even before the parade, everyone is chattering excitedly. To think, Mr. New Vegas, on our very own radio show!
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>>1646450
This time we should use fireworks.
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>>1646497
>Tfw actually giddy from this.

Can we boardcast out to the NCR and Legion held lands?
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>>1646497
This was the best decision ever
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>>1646497
Thats beautiful
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>>1646510
Yes. As far as the signal can reach
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>>1646497
They thought he was gone, instead he rises from the ashes of Vegas. Reborn anew under the flag and wing of the venerable Phoenix.
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Qm, question for Marcus.

When considering hone sfor supermutants, would he rather have hos own city distrcit just for the supermutants (may come across as segregation) or would he rather have homes built interchangeably with the common citizens?
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With better experience from last years parade, the band from Baker (or as some say "The Band from Hell") set up Having seen enough of them, they become less an outright call for a riot and now mostly a morbid curiosity. A few from last year, brave enough to converse with them, are seen speaking to them again but in general everyone prefers not to stare directly.

Crowds line up on the main road that runs through New Washington and the concrete houses. Not as many as last years, but it sort of pleases you to see that no offers of wealth or reward could make these people leave, and they are yours.

At high noon midday, the clouds just enough to cast some shade, you stand on the balcony of your Presidential Palace one Judah Kreger. Now dressed in an American Generals uniform and hat, as you prepare to swear him in.

He places his hand over his heart, and the other in the air, as he recites word for word, his acceptance to the office bestowed upon him by his country, the Commonwealth of America, born anew, and by its leader. Its a carefully crafted oath that is intentionally similar if not outright identical to the one the Enclave makes its soldiers say. Kreger does not abandon America and the United States, but embraces his new role in its rebuilding and reconstruction.

And as he finishes his oath, the Solar tower is activated, and the crowd is basked in a bright white flash like an atom bomb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AEj-otqMLE

And Dean Domino erupts the band with a furious marching song, as from the tunnel entrance to big MT, your newly painted Robotic forces and human army march onward.

The eyes of your citizens feast upon the sights before them. Painted brand new in patriotic colors, the insignia of the Commonwealth upon them, and behind them march the soldiers. Their husbands, their brothers, their sons, their friends.

Bodies taller and stronger, some of the built like brick shithouses, as they march with pride saluting their beloved General and yourself, a fierce fire of pride burning in all their eyes.

And Kreger, slowly and calmly, salutes them back. Proud to call them his army.
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>>1646569
God damn, imagine what the parade will be like in a years time.
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>>1646569
Were sending the radio signal as far as it can go, right? I want the settlers at barstown to hear what we have going on
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>>1646595
Knowing the NCR they probably have a plane watching right now.


Speaking of which, what are the current feelings / thoughts of the anons to the merc-bot deal? We could use the scrap metal and combat experience against the Legion. Plus it would let us examine the NCR military up close.
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>>1646609
Against it, The NCR/Legion war is on them. I don't want to accelerate or decelerate it.
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>>1646609
I accept it along with sending our doctors. We can build mobile hospital in meantime and send it later.


What if any other trade deals do we have in effect?
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>>1646609
Speaking about the NCR

We should set up AA guns, either man controlled or robot AA guns. To take down the bomber planes in the future.

Also we should make anti tank mines for the future as well, to blow some tanks or at least slow them down.

I don't want war with the NCR, but it's best to prepare
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>>1646609
Im fine using it as a testing ground for our robots and millitaty, but i continue to think the brain bot is a bad idea.

Sending in doctors is a good idea, and eill get them plenty of field practice.
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>>1646621
Robot AA and self propelled mines-like vulture mines from starcraft.

Also we get to use the free research action for them
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>>1646627
We should look into having EMP resistant robots, that way our robot robot is harder to take out.
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>>1646632
If we want good AA we should build Obelisks of Darkness. Giant laser just zaps planes out of the sky. No countermeasures no leading the target, just zap.
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>>1646615
To be honest if I could I would help the Legion get a little closer to the NCR's capital or even take it. Just to turn the heat up on the NCR and get us more scrap in return for our support.

Not to mention the effect it would have on their morale / government organisation and shit. However I feel it is safer to help the NCR and get our steel while limiting the actual damage we do to the Legion than try and do something that could backfire unless we know precisely how the fighting is going which is why I want to get down into the trenches and find out shit like how the manpower reserves of both sides are.

>>1646617
Spices for shit if I remember rightly and the lifter suits.

>>1646621
Robot AA would be best since it could directly link into any radar we have and work together to bring down planes. Plus it would work as effectively day or night, no matter how long it has been working.

As to war with the NCR? I don't want it yet either but I see it as an somewhat inevitable occurrence if we don't get much stronger and even then, we might want such a war depending on how things go.

>>1646623
The brain bot is just a way of having more advanced control of the bots which I think could give us the edge over the Legion and impress the NCR troops / brass into giving more for our continued support.

Consider we could equip it with our current general's brain and have him go too, to talk with the NCR / appear in any news reels and shit as the face of our military and nation.

Maybe send our actual troops in too and get them some actual combat but we would need to see if the NCR wanted them and we would need to supply food / ammo and such unless the NCR agreed to do so.

>>1646627
You mean widow mines? Seems possible: a burrowing robot with some sort of detection system that launches a regenerating guided missile.

>>1646632
Robots should already be fairly EMP resistant since they have an all metal shell and they are fairly small in size. Since they therefore experience less effect from a EMP and are protected by a Faraday cage from the rest.

>>1646649
Giant laser cannons? Sounds possible, especially with our disintegrator tech and shit.
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>>1646659
Yeah widow mines. Thats what i meant.

As for laser AA, theyre planes. They dont need that much firepower to take out. Its mainly a question of hitting them. So the laser beams can be quite a bit smaller than anti tank lasers
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>>1646665
>Yeah widow mines. Thats what i meant.
Yeah those things are terrifying. Like bouncing betty's with brains...

>As for laser AA, theyre planes. They dont need that much firepower to take out. Its mainly a question of hitting them. So the laser beams can be quite a bit smaller than anti tank lasers
True. In fact we might be better off making them smaller and faster firing so they could attempt to intercept any explosives / bombs they drop by heating them until the explosives either detonate or decompose or the detonation mechanism melts.

However I would point out that a laser becomes less powerful as it travels. At such a rate that every time you double the distance you must quarter the lasers strength. So something that at ground level will melt steel with ease at 500 meters, will struggle to damage a craft at 2000 meters which is far from the highest most planes can go. Luckily this energy isn't lost, just spread over a large area which renders the target easier hit.
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>>1646690
Also you have to account for additional energy loss from shit like dust on the outside of the laser cannon or such. This also assumes no atmospheric resistance to your laser which could be a problem, fuck if I can remember what earth's atmosphere does.
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>>1646690
>>1646665

I want to point out, That lasers in Fallout seem to have no chill. So we can very well use them as AA weapons for high Alit fighters/bombers.
However i would suggest a 3 layer defense, Laser/Rail and something else.

Our fighters should use plasma and lasers tho.
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>>1646698
Or we can use flak like real AA guns, if it's a AI AA gun, then it can lead the target and be almost 100% accurate.
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>>1646690

The more I know on lasers. How effective in combat would white phosphorus shells would be for firing out of mortars?

>>1646701

I've been thinking on something for when we do get around to having an FEV lab. What's the exact extent of Unity's abilities? Because that's something I'm curious about how much to an extent her abilities go
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>>1646701
>I want to point out, That lasers in Fallout seem to have no chill. So we can very well use them as AA weapons for high Alit fighters/bombers.
True but I am just saying that we shouldn't forget the physics of the situation. I mean I know of a solution but even it would have it's limits.

>However i would suggest a 3 layer defense, Laser/Rail and something else.
Of course. Different defensive levels to engage different threats.

>Our fighters should use plasma and lasers tho.
I'd argue disintegrators and lasers. Save the plasma for bombs and bots.

>>1646703
>Or we can use flak like real AA guns, if it's a AI AA gun, then it can lead the target and be almost 100% accurate.
True. In fact such things exist in fallout. One of them was on Hoover dam and functional for example.
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>>1646708
Which abilities? The shapeshifting, assimilation, or hive mind telepathy.
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>>1646715

Assimilation for one, but I actually just want to see what else she can do. Because I believe that there's no way that she's limited to just assimilation, hive mind telepathy and shapeshifting.

She's like the Flood, only this Gravemind is a very nice qt red head
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>>1646713
Eh, Physic's doesn't really 'matter' in Fallout so to speak. Which is why I suggested Lasers and Railguns. I forgot we have disintegratiors which would work on our fighters.


Honestly I suggest going away from Flak however.
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>>1646713
I been thinking some ways to increase our population.

The easily being buying slaves from the Legon. Freeing them with raids to get some slaves.

Since getting people from the NCR is going to be tough, maybe offer safe haven for the people the NCR want to kill. (Jews)

We could always try to find tribes and have them join our town. Robots are good and all, but humans, can help in others things.
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>>1646732
A thought. Set up a recruitment radio, broadcasting across the mohave, similar to marcus's jamestown radio beacon.

Calling for all ghouls,super mutants, and humans, than have the annoincer change it to "people" as a gesture of unity.
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>>1646758
Yeah thats a good idea. Also try to acquire intellectuals and artists who may be chafing under the NCReich
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>>1646758

That sounds like a good idea. And maybe, just maybe. There will be a chance that Dog/God will come, because goddamn it those two are great guys.

And who else will come? Plenty of new faces, but we will need to build more homes and the like for the incoming people who would come to live in the Phoenix Commonwealth
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>>1646778
To be fair, we need to build homes for the supermutants we have now.
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>>1646758
That can work spread the word out. What we need is temporary housing for any new comers.

Tents will work until we can expand on the current housing. We could set up some bureaucracy, where we can have them do some paperwork if they can read or write, and work skills.

I think some people will come since we have clean water, food, and safely from raiders, so it's going to bring some people.

We should think about increasing our housing, and our alcohol still.
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>Tfw we need to get the Enclave Signal going again
>Tfw need to get the BoS one running too
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>>1646783
Well we recently suffered a small outflux of people, so we should have spare homes people can fill.
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>>1645270
I'm pretty sure we don't need to spend any more turns on studying the aliens flights tech.
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>>1646831
I dont think we can replicate it yet. Which would give us an edge in air superirity.
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>>1646846
>>1646831
Pretty sure we can produce alien metals from our machines.

What we really need to do is visit the Shi computer.
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>>1646848
We can make alien metal, but not alien propulsion systems. We also dont know how they work specifically. We we need to research

But we should visit the shi. Bring DanDan or some of the more sciency chinese people.
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Fireworks and feasting continued throughout that night. Securitrons fired their salvo's into the air, while citizens and soldiers alike would attempt to shoot them or make them explode.

Food and Water have been consumed at great rates, but not to the point of starvation.

The Power Grid is enjoying its extra energy, the Solar Tower able to provide energy day and night via superheated salt in the tower converting water to steam.

!ALERT!
Water cap is slightly reduced. The Solar Tower is partly steam powered.

James Bond is taking residence at his computers of the Military HQ in the Crater, and has integrated with the rest of your already constructed surveilance network.

Mr. New Vegas and Ms. New Washington have been installed in the X-2 Transmitter Antennae Array, and are broadcasting as far as your radio signals go. It is almost definitive some of your transmissions are reaching NCR lands.

Mr. New Vegas and Ms. New Washington, along with other prominent community members, want to consider building an expanded radio building, enough to house a band and other forms of entertaining.

--

Scrap Metal and Fissile Materials have been spent to create electronics for the 3 new AI's via the Sierra Madre Machines and the Robotics Facility

We have used up all our Hexcrete

!NEW!
>>>>>Food: Low (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Average]
Passive Booze Ration: Low (higher for soldiers)
>>>>>Water: Low (Slowly Rising) [CAP: Below]
>>>>>Medicine: Below Average (Stable)
!NEW!
>>>>>>Materials: Scrap Metal (Below Average) Fissile (Average)
Scrap Wood (tiny)
Special Electronics (---) Hygiene Supplies (Abundant) Booze (---) [Falling] Alien Tech Scraps (low) Hexcrete Bags (Exhausted) Plant Material (Tiny)
Trona Minerals (Low)
>>>>>Fuel: Airplane Fuel (Low) Ethanol (uses Food)
>>>>>Total Pop: 215 Humans (and companions) +55 Infants +40 Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Total Armaments (proportionate to the total pop) Below Average
>>>>>>Weapons: Type (Subtype, Amount, Condition)
-Conventional Melee Weapons
(Legion) - Moderate
-Conventional Firearms
(Legion) - Moderate
(Mercenary) - Moderate
-Energy Firearms
(Human Plasma/Laser) - Below Average
(Alien) - Below Average
(Chinese Alien-Jurry Rigged) - Below Average
>>>>>>Ammunition Reserve: Conventional (Below Average) Energy (Moderate)
>>>>>>Armor/Uniforms:
(Salvaged Legion, Moderate, Pristine)
(Legion Centurion. Tiny, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Armor, Moderate, Intact)
(OW American Infantry Uniforms, Moderate, Intact)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Armor)
(7 Alien Bounty Hunter Big Rifles)
(35 Dr. Mobius Scrubs + Dr. Mobius Glasses)
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>OUTPOSTS<

--CHINA RANCH--
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 50 Securitrons MKV. +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower.
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

--TRONA---
++Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 50 Securitrons MKV +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Ruined buildings. Digital Radio Tower
>>>>> Power: Big Alien Battery
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Animals:

---NEWBERRY SPRINGS---
++BigMT Outpost++
>>>>>Military: 50 Securitrons MK5 +25 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>> Infrastructure: Houses. Lake. Hemp Farm (Small). Banana Yucata (Medium) Spice Farm (tiny)
>>>>>Defenses: Ruined Houses. *Nat100* Robot Defenses.
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other: Omni-Agronator!

---THE TWIN MINES (West+South)---
>>>>>Military: None
>>>>> Infrastructure: Railroads. Open Pit Quarry.
>>>>>Defenses: Mountain
>>>>>Animals:
>>>>>Other:
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>>1646846
I think we can, i recall when we got a crit on researching the flight tech we discovered it's a reaction-less drive, what we can't replicate is the alien scout ship itself and it's weapons.
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>>1646902
Would marcus prefer the supermutant homes be in ine location or scattered about new washington?
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>>1646881
I do not like that our Water cap is [Below], how can we raise the cap?
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>>1646962
Pipeline would probably help.
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>>1646962
Pipeline or finding a underwater aquifer.
>>1646902
Isn't there a underground river near us?
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>>1646962
If its the cap, we would need a better/another reservoir i think. Pipelines and such raise the rate of increase.
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>>1646965
>>1646967
Why would a pipeline raise the cap? I would think we would need to build a water tower to store more water in instead.
>>1646972
This.
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>>1646976
Well we have a solar station, that is using water which reduce the cap.

To rise the cap we need to increase our water supply. More water wasting things like more farms, or grass, will reduce the cap.
Hopes this explains it, the pipeline will bring more water thus increasing the cap.
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>>1646988
That reduces water income, not water storage. We need a reservoir, not a new source.
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>>1646994
So how about we do both? Make the pipeline and have it go to a reservoir. Increasing our cap and increasing the amount of water we get each turn.

The pipeline can have a on and off switch so if we ever go above the cap we can stop it,
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>>1647004
It would be pretty expensive, we'd have to build a pipeline, pumps for the pipeline and a water storage, that's a lot of metal needed.
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>>1647022
It's lot of metal, but at least it isn't Hexcrete which we ran out.

We also have that trade deal set with the NCR, so I think this turn is making the water flow with the pipeline.

If our people don't have water, it's a major problem for us. So it should be dealt with.
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>>1646962
Get more water to your main settlement, New Washington. Perhaps a pipeline or even an aqueduct to Newberry Springs would work. It has more water than is currently needed by its farms.

Alternatively, you have already discovered the underground Mojave River. It was previously shown to be partly irradiated due to run off from the north, but now that most of your military forces can drink irradiated water more safely, this should improve water outcomes.
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!ALERT!
Jame Bond reports minimal to no disturbances in domestic affairs, and that morale is generally improved in the civilian sector and particularly in the military sector though it is "only as good as can be in peacetime"

He is currently trying to decrypt NCR codes, at least the low level ones.

+Alert: Boon Spent. Your usage of Augmented human soldiers, powerful war bots, under the leader of a belove General has created a low amount of permanent military pride.

---THE CRATER---
!NEW!
>>>>>Morale: High! (Slowly Falling)
Permanent:
Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
Military Pride (Low)
>>>>>Current Pop:
35 Human
20 Infants
1 Ghoul
>>>>>Garrison:
5 Devils Brigade - Power Armor
19 Couriers Companions - Arcade, Doc Delilah, Cass, Raul, Veronica, ED-E, Rusty, Wendy Gilbert, Hazel, Desmond Harper, Vanessa, Joana, AXE MAN, Milton+Hans, Sonia, Riddick, Dean Domino, Couripor, Mary-Jo Casey
+1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
+10 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron
+10 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners
+33 Securitrons MKV
+60 Small Flyer Repairbots
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
+50 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
!NEW!
>>>>> Infrastructure: Higgs Village Warehouse [6 Intact Homes w/{Toilets, Air Condition}, Indoor living area. Raul’s Shack. Follower Hospital. 5 Box Cars. Latrines. Plumbing Water. Heated Water. Indoor Ventilation.) The DOME. The SINK (BigMT Command Center. The THINK TANK). The FORBIDDEN ZONE. . Boom Town Shooting Course Lobotomite Pleasure House (Primitive). Constrution Site (Small). Y-0 Research Center. Scrap Performance Stage. X-2 Transmitter Array. Hemp Farm.
Chinese War Factory
Chemical Mill (Small)
Concrete Military HQ/Barracks + Intelligence Center - James Bond. General Kreger.
Magneto Hydraulics Plant Robotics Facility
Cass' Multipurpose Ethanol/Alcohol Distillery (Tiny)
X-12 Biological Research Plant (Small)
Automated Hexcrete Plant (Small)
Securitron Deconstructino Plant / General Robotics Research Facility (Small)
X-13 Research Factility / Medical VR University (Small)
X-2 Antennae Transmitter Array - Mr. New Vegas. Ms. New Washington
Doppler Radar
>>>>>Defenses: Radar Fence/Mountain Range. Laser Turrets (Few)
Watch Towers. MAXIMUM SURVEILANCE
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Riddick’s Charge Co. Dodger. 1 Giant Crane (Ruined) 1 Alien Scoutship (INTACT)
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (HUGE). BigMT Underground Reactors
>>>>>>Other
+The THINK TANK
+Dr. MOBIUS
+Unity
+Julia Farkas
+Arcade Ganon
+30 Researchers (Followers of the Apocalypse)
+45 Assorted Research Robots (normal)
+55 Captured Female Lobotomites
+67 Captured Male Lobotomites.
+20 Construction Bots
+10 VR Life Support Pods (debrained Version)
>>
Our energy supplies have increased! We are now running at 75% Capacity.

---NEW WASHINGTON---
>>>>>Morale: High! (Slowly Falling)
Permanent: Patriotism (Below Average- Phoenix Commonwealth)
>>>>>Armaments: Average
>>>>>Current Pop:
164 Human
35 Infants
+40 Super Mutants/Nightkin
>>>>>Garrison:
2 Couriers Companions – Doc Mitchel, Doc Doc Orderly MD PHD DDS
+15 Mr. Orderly Robots
11 Trained Regular Officers [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans} {Augmented!}
88 Trained Regular Infantry [OW American Infantry Armor] (Plasma/Laser) {Veterans}{Augmented!}
40 Child Soldiers “Freeside Rats” (Various)
+20 Super Mutants
+20 NightKin
+125 Securitrons MKV
+125 Spy-Eye Bots
>>>>>Prisoner: None
1 Presidental Manor
100 Hexcrete Hex Houses (Indoor plumbing/Shower, electricity)
Asphault Roads. Sewer System. Night Lamps.
Desert Landscaping
Spring Well. Clean Water Tank (Intact)
Banana Yucca Farm (Large)
Cotton Farm (Medium)
Concrete School House (Tiny)
Glass Mill (Small)
Public Washing Machines.
Water Treatment/Fertilizer Plant
(Small) Bar + Cafeteria + Kitchen
Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)
>>>>>Defenses: Disease Quarantine Measures (Primitive)
>>>>>Vehicles: 1 Vertibird, 1 Fuel Economic Fuel Semi Truck, 7 Tracked Construction Vehicles (Mining Specialized) Jacob Mile's Mr. Fix-It Frame. 5 Chinese Supply Trucks
!NEW!
>>>>>>Power: Electricity (Adequate) {Shared from The Crater}. Electrical Poles. Solar Collector Tower Station (Small)

>>>>>>Other:
+Marcus
+Keene
+19 Herd Animals (Brahmin/Bighorn)
+9 Baby Brahmin
+30 Mr. Howdy's Farming Robots

1 General Boon
1 Robotics Research Boon
1 FOUNDING DAY BOON

>>>>>A. Scavenge (for what)
>>>>>B. Try to improve (which) base
>>>>>C. Try to improve weapons (where).
>>>>>D. Research technology.
>>>>>E. Explore in a direction/something.
>>>>>F. Scavenge for raw materials (where/what)
>>>>>G. Your choice/Write in
>>>>>Turn: 95
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>>1647116
Hero
Sit down with miles and marcus, and work on a design for super mutant housing.

Civillian
Work on a radio recruitment program.

Construction
Finish setting up any remaining Alexa systems to integrate with James Bond.

General Research
Work on creating a design for the FEV lab.
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Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>1647116
Construction: A pipeline to get the water from New berry Springs to New Washington. A reservoir could also be made as well.

Military: Maybe train our spys in espionage or disguises.

Robo Research: A drilling robot.
Two models, a robot that has a drill and make vertical tunnels, so we can drill into the underground Mojave River to get that water.

The 2nd model is a horizontal robot so it can make tunnels, like the tunnels Odd ball made to make his escape.

Hero: We should have a super mutant housing.

Civillian: Work on radio boast cast to recruit settlers.
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Rolled 31 (1d100)

>>1647139
Forgot dice
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>>1647146
I don't think our hero action can make super mutant housing. you probably have to change construction to mutant homes.
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>>1647150
We have FEV lab blueprints. Just have to build them
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>>1647158
Well maybe our hero could talk with the mutants to know how they're feeling.

>>1647165
I feel we need more water first and we made the FEV lab later.
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>>1646953
>Marcus
"I have been in only two settlements in my life where humans and mutants cohabited peaceably.

The first was in the Masters army, working along with his cult. Because we believed in the same goals and ideals.

The second was as sherrif of Broken Hills. Ironically, it was a Brotherhood of Steel paladin who convinced me that humans and mutants can work together. At Broken Hills I oversaw the protection of the mining town. Mutants and Ghouls worked to mine the uranium there for Vault City, before it was part of the NCR.

I don't know, and don't want to think, it was the natural way of humans to try to profiteer off Ghouls and Mutants, but that is what happened. Perhaps a city built on profit could only put profit in the hearts of those who live in it. They almost tried to destroy us all, were it not for an old friend rescuing us.

But once the mine ran dry, there was no reason for that town to exist. I took the mutants who would join me to Utobitha, and then Jacobstown as you know.

As you can see I've had a good and a bad experience with human and mutants living together. And for 3 years now, us supermutants haven't been in too close contact with the non mutants but we get along good enough, especially with your companions and with robots keeping the peace. I have to watch out for Keene, and the securitrons watch out for any humans wanting to start trouble.

Perhaps we could live closer and foster good relations some more. Maybe building a section of houses for mutants near or even in the vicinity of New Washington would be good. Perhaps I might even resume my role as a Sherrif, you willing, to make sure things are peaceful between us."
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Rolled 2 (1d100)

>>1647176
I know we can build the FEV lab later, Im just telling the guy he doesn't need to use the research on the lab

>>1647146
support this
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>>1647195
Sure. And I think if people heard your story, from the beginning to now, they might understand you and your people better. You did help save them all from the Enclave, They just have to know that.

Go on the radio and tell your story some time.
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>>1647210
>You did help save them all from the Enclave, They just have to know that.
Uhhhh, i know the point you're trying to make but aren't we enclave?
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>>1647176
Actually, you can probably swap the the hero and civ actions- make the hero action to set up the recruitment radio, and gather hexacrete for the mutant homes as the civ action.
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>>1647227
We're not enclave. We're not trying to kill eveyone in the wastes. We're a different successor state to america.
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>>1647235
Should we really set up a recruitment radio right now? I think we should at least make our culture a bit stronger so anyone who immigrates here assimilates to our culture instead of spreading their own among our Citizens.
>>1647244
>>1647261
But we did pick enclave as the faction we would support, i know we aren't old enclave, going around killing impure humans, but we still are a new enclave, we just don't call ourselves that cause of stigma.
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>>1647261
"It's part of the reason we spend a while on deciding a name, so we aren't heavily associated with that perception."

>>1647270
Actually I have to go catch up on this thread to see what the dialogue is.
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>>1647270
We picked Enclave at the start and went along with it. The only Enclave that exist in the West Coast was 6 old dudes that are now part of our nation.

We're like Enclave lite, wanting to remake America back to it once was, but make it be reborn. As far as we know there is no more enclave, unless we're willing to travel to the East to see what's going on.
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>>1647270
We're not going to be getting too many people to start disrupting cultural development.

Our methods and goals are completely different from the enclave. We strive for America like the enclave, but that is where the similarities end.
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Rolled 87 (1d100)

>>1647116
i'll back this >>1647146
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>>1647146
LOCKED.

Writing!
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>>1647296
Another similarity maybe how important we place our military, or the military structure with have. Since the old Enclave were the ones to train our officers they will mostly use the military structure they learned during their time in the enclave.

There are similarities, but no killing non humans on sight.
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>>1647291
>>1647296
I know i know, it just fells weird for me, despite that i agree the enclave made a BIG mistake killing wasteland people.
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>>1647323
Well playing the Fallout games, I always like the Enclave, but felt they did the wrong approach to it. If they played nice, they could have rebuild American a long time ago.

Now in this civ we could fix the mistakes the Enclave did.
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>>1647323
Since we never said we're the enclave, it should be an easy sell that we're not the enclave. Especially since we have mutants and ghouls as fellow citizens.
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>>1647195
>And for 3 years now,
It's been 3 years already?
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>>1647365
Yeah it has, time fly fast.
2 years and some in BigMT.
I think we spend like half a year at cottonwood or less.
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>>1647365
*2 years
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>>1647384
Don't it be a little over 2 years? Like 2 and a half?
2 years fully at BigMT, and a bit of time at Cottonwood?
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>>1647381
>I think we spend like half a year at cottonwood or less.
6+ months at Cottonwood, yeah.
>>1647195
>And for 3 years now, us supermutants haven't been in too close contact with the non mutants but we get along good enough,
>>1647384
>>1647405
I think he meant since Marcus joined up with us. He wasn't with us back at Cottonwood.
3 years in total since the start of the video game.
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>>1647423
Pretty much. Time is generally abstracted, but the safest way to mark the years is by Founding Day.

Marcus joined with you on the expedition.
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>>1647423
>>1647432
August 17, 2277 Fallout 3
October 19, 2281 Fallout NV
October 23, 2284 Fallout 4
Well Fallout 4 starts in 2287 so it's about 2284 now.

>>1647432
Is there even seasons in Fallout? Or did nukes just make places always be one season?
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>>1647455
>October 23, 2284 Fallout 4
>Well Fallout 4 starts in 2287 so it's about 2284 now.
Are these two different dates?
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>>1647455
Well, Patrolling the mojave makes you wish for Nuclear Winter.

And you have fallout 4 starts in 2284, and then say it starts in 2287. I think Fallout 4 is happening now.
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>>1647455
We only have 3 years till fallout 4 starts? We really should start making alien scout ships and repair that alien mother ship.
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>>1647469
That would explain how the NCR knows about the Synths, I guess on 2284 is when the plot starts and 2287 The Lone Survivor's about to wake up?
>>1647476
Also pick up the other games' MCs.
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>>1647455
Depends on the place. Some places the atmosphere is scarred by the atomic blasts, such as in the Divide where it's either stormy or cloudy, or the Frontier which is in constant nuclear winter which is not natural. Some places have normal weather and rain, like Zion.

It doesn't rain here or in the Mojave though, and in general, the world is drier. But it still rains in some places, particularly where the NCR likes to settle.

Although its always a good idea to have a geiger counter. Even if the rain isn't glowing.
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>>1647466
>>1647469
I messed up Fallout 4 is 2287. 2284 is current year.

>Son of the Chosen one is kill in 2316
The Bishop child, leader of the Bishop family of New Reno and the son of the Chosen One, dies quietly in his sleep, having never known his real father.

Maybe Bishop is a rival to Odd ball or they are working together
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>>1647487
So in 2284, Recon Squad Artemis with Brandis, is sent to the commonwealth.

In 2287, the Sole Survivor wakes up. If we can lock down the West in 3 years, we can interfere with that plot.
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Alright, here's what we need to make our own flying saucers.
>Research the alien hangar.
>research the alien scout ship's power source and weapons.
>Get that Vending machine upgrade that makes it so we don't need fissile materials.
>Build a aircraft factory so we can build flying saucers.

And to repair the Mothership we need to
>Research Mothership's computers.
>Research Mothership's power source.
>Scout the Mothership for any other important sections.
>Make alien metal so we can fix the holes.
>Fix anything that the Mothership needs to fly.
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>>1647513
I recommend we make flying saucers to do that, they are very powerful and give us much needed mobility.
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>>1647525
>>1647518
We have the alien Scout ship, we could also fill up our crew and fuck off to the East to do something in the Commonwealth right now.

But for now we have 3 years to prepare, since we need to play a active part in our settlement, we can't go on adventures that are too far away.
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>>1647525
>>1647530
Could we disguise our alien ships as more conventional craft so it doesn't raise a bunch of alarms?

>>1647518
We're also going to need to figure out how to keep ourselves supplied the entire time.
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>>1647537
We have Trona and the Divide plus the NCR trade deal we made, we can also do the blimp idea with flying saucers/Alien mothership.
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>>1647195
What is marcus' thoughts on us working to cure nightkin insanity once the fev lab is up? What are his thoughts on Brain in a Jars?
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>>1647555
Hm... Curious, would it be possible for us to encourage more attacks, then buy off unused land from the NCR like the Louisiana Purchase or original American settlers?
>>1647073
Such a shame our population is so low.
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>>1647537
>Could we disguise our alien ships as more conventional craft so it doesn't raise a bunch of alarms?
Yeah, we should definitely do this!

Also, we have to spend our civ or research action next turn adding the smart home features to our survailence network.
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>>1647555
Nice trips
For a Blimp the Germans used Hydrogen, tho it's more flammable. Helium works as well but during that time only the USA had Helium deports so the Germans had to make do with Hydrogen.
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>>1647569
This
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Back from a party, tired and tipsy. Catching up.


>>1646708
>The more I know on lasers. How effective in combat would white phosphorus shells would be for firing out of mortars?
Fairly effective against all organic targets or robots without heavy armour / fire resistance.

>>1646724
>Eh, Physic's doesn't really 'matter' in Fallout so to speak.
It's more so like it plays fast and loose with the particulars for the purposes of having a sci-fi 1950's universe and for good gameplay.

>Which is why I suggested Lasers and Railguns.
True but technically we could build lasers to do these things in real life, it's not too much of a stretch to believe with our tech in fallout we could build them too if not even better.

>I forgot we have disintegratiors which would work on our fighters.
Not to mention our tanks and heavy machine guns. Anywhere where energy can be easily supplied to them essentially.

>>1646732
I would point out that the NCR is currently putting all tribes in their lands into reservations / camps and trying to make them "civilised". Maybe we could get them to give us any of the tribals willing to join us?

>>1647530
That is true for now but with limited investments into orbital infrastructure we could have satellites up to allow communications anywhere on earth. Especially if we take advantage of the existing networks from prewar and repair them.

>>1647537
>>1647555
I would point out that we could avoid having to travel across the US, since our ship can fly into space. So we literally could make it look like a sub and have it "land" outside of the sight lines of the coast and then move in. Problem solved.

If we are going to that region we should probably establish relations with the Institute and ask for a peace treaty / technological exchange. Maybe cite the fact we aren't here to destroy them but merely want to get any useful tech for study (the results of which we could share), any people who are willing to join and to generally learn about the united states.
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>>1647568
>Hm... Curious, would it be possible for us to encourage more attacks.
What do you mean exactly? Are you saying we should encourage the Legion to attack the NCR more?
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>>1647571
Good thing we live in the USA.
>>1647575
>If we are going to that region we should probably establish relations with the Institute and ask for a peace treaty / technological exchange. Maybe cite the fact we aren't here to destroy them but merely want to get any useful tech for study (the results of which we could share), any people who are willing to join and to generally learn about the united states.
What about the other factions, like the Minutemen?
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>>1647537
>>1647569
>Could we disguise our alien ships as more conventional craft so it doesn't raise a bunch of alarms?
As long as we keep the saucer shape i won't object to this.
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>>1647580
Not necessarily the Legion, they're a major threat to us and having them gain more territory isn't encouraging. People we can trust that don't like the NCR, like the fiends and former gangs that were absorbed into the Legion. Or the more minor factions.
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>>1647568
Well, most people have moved out of the crater to New Washington

>>1647567
"Any further cures toward that endeavour would be greatly appreciated. It may perhaps, even make Keene easier to negotiate with.

I won't approve of any unethical things."

"An interesting concept. It seems to work for you and your scientists well. I can understand the drive for improvement. Sometimes I still suggest, especially for prime humans, that a dip in FEV proper is not such a bad thing at all."
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>>1647587
To be honest, im not a fan of the saucer shape.
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>>1647583
>Good thing we live in the USA.
Too bad it's not near us.

Looking at mineral maps of the USA is helpful knowing what is near us.
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>>1647587
I think the fact it flies without wings is the most alarming part, so we won't be able to keep the general saucer shape.
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>>1647591
>People we can trust that don't like the NCR, like the fiends and former gangs that were absorbed into the Legion. Or the more minor factions.
No, we are not making that mistake again.
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>>1647604
If it's natural gas it's likely depleted during the resource war.

And the stores are probably not available after 200 yrs of decay/leaks
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>>1647609
Alright, what about those minor factions that weren't absorbed into the Legion already, like the Fiends?
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>>1647575
>If we are going to that region we should probably establish relations with the Institute and ask for a peace treaty / technological exchange.
Let's not do that, they're the bad guys of Fallout 4. Instead what we could do is support one of the other 3 factions on taking down the Institute and collect any institute tech when they attack.
Actually isn't there a Fallout 4 mission where you go into the institute and plant a holotape virus that draws data from the Institute mainframe? We can do that.
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>>1647609
We do have niner causing a ruckus raiding NCR Convoys, but I don't imagine he's doing too much damage. One convoy here and there won't spell the end of the world for the NCR
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>>1647606
The thing about the saucer it can fly into space, the most we did with it was 10 miles high.

So noone will see the saucer, if we're high enough. we'll just have to cover it up once we land.
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>>1647609
Now that we have MAXIMUM surveilance, i dont see much of a problem with them.

Side note, we could always put them through immigration school, where the learn how to function in our society, but i feel thats a little too close to the NCReich
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>>1647634
Not unless it's an important convoy.
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>>1647625
>>1647637
Again, not making that mistake again, no Citizen of ours would like us supporting the Fiends.
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ALERT!
The NCR is reporting that, due to military circumstances, they are willing to increase the amount of payment for mercenarial services in the next few turns.

This message was given directly through the encrypted lines.

>Cass
"Seems like a good time to strike a deal."
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>>1647645
>>1647625
So what about them?
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>>1647649
What's the deal?
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>>1647645
My point being that we would only recruit them if they were willing to out that life behind them in favor of a new better one.

If they arent willing to commit to us, then is really no skin off our back. Kick em to the curb.
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>>1647649
>due to military circumstances, they are willing to increase the amount of payment for mercenarial services in the next few turns.

>>1647657
I think either the NCR is planning a attack to push back the Legion and could use our help. Or the fighting is going bad for them, so they'll willing to increase trading for fighting.
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>>1647652
I just said no citizen of ours would like us supporting the fiends.
And don't say "They don't have to know" Cause that will make it even worse when they find out.
>>1647649
What's the current mercenary deal?
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>>1647649
Lets help em out for some cold hard cash/materials.

Have cass make us a great deal.
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>>1647664
>inb4 the Legion bombs something important again.

>>1647625
>Alright, what about those minor factions that weren't absorbed into the Legion already, like the Fiends?
>>1647668
No, I'm asking what do you want to do with them if not hire them. You didn't answer that.
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>>1647583
>What about the other factions, like the Minutemen?
Minutemen may have collapsed as an organisation by that point.

If not, establish official communications and offer our assistance in maintaining the peace (both on the ground and through use of our big guns and shit). If they have collapsed, rally what remnants we can to us and form some sort of permanent holding for them to protect and gather what communities from across the wastes want to join as citizens. Take advantage of the fact we could probably build them brand new houses and shit to make it appealing.

Atom cats should be contacted for their power armour expertise. Learn all we can, offer for them to be taken with us for the same reason.

Children of Atom should be contacted for study. They have atomic resistance and I want to know how. If nothing else, they would be useful for getting some support in the region in return for taking a copy of their lectures / scripture back.

Diamond city should be contacted, offered the chance to trade and otherwise assist us. In return we would offer technical aid along with medical aid.


>>1647609
We never made a mistake. We got 2 1's and didn't burn boons to fix the fucked up situation.

>>1647633
>Let's not do that, they're the bad guys of Fallout 4.
They are also the only hope of humanity actually recovering from the atomic war in the region and to be frank their portrayal in game doesn't do them justice for what they were meant to be / should have been like.

>Instead what we could do is support one of the other 3 factions on taking down the Institute.
Brotherhood isn't there yet in force, Minutemen are potentially collapsing or collapsed and the Railroad are too secretive for us to reliably encounter.

>and collect any institute tech when they attack.
Rather than getting their direct technical assistance? You do realise the Institute outshines us in many areas of science which we can't afford to focus on? They've got far more advanced reactor designs, life support systems, biology as a field and so much more such as their energy weapons or even their computers.
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>>1647659
>>1647675
People will come to our land and left their life behind, if we show them for the most part, have clean water, housing and food.

I'm willing to bet, some Fiends would want to give up raiding for there own plot of land, still beat drying in a raid gone bad.
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>>1647677
>We got 2 1's and didn't burn boons to fix the fucked up situation.
We would've only needed to burn one had we of switched from a best of 4 to best of 3, but I think we assumed at the time there might be a 4th one when the decision was made.

>>1647677
>They are also the only hope of humanity actually recovering from the atomic war in the region and to be frank their portrayal in game doesn't do them justice for what they were meant to be / should have been like.
The problem with the Institute is similar with the Enclave, shitty leadership. If I recall it only got bad when Shaun took charge.
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>>1647657
>>1647668
"Preferably by either the end of next turn or at least the start of the turn after we would like a sizeable force of your military robots, contracted for 7 turns. We will pay you double our previous offer. That is, not one but two shipments of (HUGE) steel, or one shipment of (HUGE STEEL) and one of (Small) Fissile Materials.
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>>1647677
>
If not, establish official communications and offer our assistance in maintaining the peace (both on the ground and through use of our big guns and shit). If they have collapsed, rally what remnants we can to us and form some sort of permanent holding for them to protect and gather what communities from across the wastes want to join as citizens. Take advantage of the fact we could probably build them brand new houses and shit to make it appealing.

Are you saying all this 3 years down the line? Since they are in the East coast and we're on the West, so big distance to cross. But in three years time, we could do that for them.
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>>1647680
I think i may have confused the issue. Are yall talking about recruiting or hiring as mercenaries?

My argument was towards recruiting. Anyone willing to put their old life behind them for something better should be given a chance. [One chance]

But if the argument is about hiring 3rd party mercs like the fiends, im not ok with that.
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>>1647686
That's huge.
How many do they want? What's considered sizable to them?
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>>1647669
Supporting this.

Also, QM, is the radio tower at China Ranch being used to boost our signal for the Mr New Vegas show? If not, how can we use it like that?

Also, is there a way to incorporate the radio towers back in the Mojave?
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>>1647677
I don't think we'd be able to both improve our civ, build up our army and build up enough ships to start dealing in the commonwealth in 3 years. Especially with the legion and NCR fighting around us.

We might have to join in when the SS is just woken, or has just finished the game.

Plus that's meta gaming- We don't know what a synth is or what's in Boston.
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>>1647686
How many robots do they want. [OOC]=they may want more than we can supply.
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>>1647698
100 Securitrons are sought after, but they will accept 50. Its your losses if you dont bring enough force anyway.
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>>1647708
All of this true, but we have heard of a synth when the ncr general accused unity of being one.
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>>1647697
>But if the argument is about hiring 3rd party mercs like the fiends, im not ok with that.
In the Fiends case, they're the only Mercs that might actually be dependable, seeing as they're the only ones who listened to us. Otherwise I'm not sure how ethical they are like the pre-NCR Boomers.

>>1647708
We might if we absorb the secrets of the Divide and that radiated hellhole in the NCR.

>>1647714
>Its your losses if you dont bring enough force anyway.
Well that's one way to think of mercenaries.
If we accept this, are we going to have some hidden salvagers so they don't try jacking our tech? Do we have some copyright protection mechanisms?
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>>1647714
I think we can send 100 securitrons, maybe have us, or Cass go and make the deal with them. Or through the radio.
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>>1647714
>>1647724
Do we get paid more if we send more forces?
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>>1647675
>No, I'm asking what do you want to do with them if not hire them. You didn't answer that.
If we ever find them, kill them, it was what we were going to do anyway as part of the plan.
Possibly also >>1647659
But i'm not optimistic we will find anyone worth rehabilitating among them.
>>1647677
>We never made a mistake. We got 2 1's and didn't burn boons to fix the fucked up situation.
That was for the Secutritons fighting the Legion, we got another 1 before when we talked with house, but i do think even without the one the Fiends would have been too much trouble to deal with if we had won Hover Dam battle, it was stupid to use them.
>They are also the only hope of humanity actually recovering from the atomic war in the region
No they aren't, they have great tech sure but they're idiots, we also don't need much of they're tech anyway sine we're in Big MT.
>and to be frank their portrayal in game doesn't do them justice for what they were meant to be / should have been like.
Sure they had potential but that doesn't mean we should ally with them since I'm certain QM will use Fall9out 4's cannon, they are stupid villans and we should just steal their tech.
>Brotherhood isn't there yet in force, Minutemen are potentially collapsing or collapsed and the Railroad are too secretive for us to reliably encounter.
And depending on the actions of the Fallout 4 protagonist the Minutemen might be rebuilt. Plus we'll certainly take some time getting there.
>You do realise the Institute outshines us in many areas of science which we can't afford to focus on? They've got far more advanced reactor designs, life support systems, biology as a field and so much more such as their energy weapons or even their computers.
And they use all that for their "Replace people with Synths" plan, yes i'd rather steal their tech than cooperate with them.
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>>1647714
I propose we send the robots, as well as 2 squads of our superior soldiers , and repair drones to make sure no funny business from the NCR.
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>>1647729
>100 Securitrons are sought after, but they will accept 50. Its your losses if you dont bring enough force anyway.

What it sounds like is they will accept 50, but they feel it don't be enough.

So either send 100 to win this thing, and we can recoup our losses at the end of the battle, or send 50 and risk losing the fight.
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>>1647729
Send us 150 robots and/or a heavy fighting vehicle, they'll sweeten the deal with a shipment of New Reno air conditioners. Enough for all your houses.
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>>1647741
Same. Include some commanders. Give them a taste of real combat.
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>>1647751
>Send us 150 robots and/or a heavy fighting vehicle, they'll sweeten the deal with a shipment of New Reno air conditioners. Enough for all your houses.
>they'll sweeten the deal with a shipment of New Reno air conditioners.
>New Reno air conditioners.
>tfw we're being paid in air conditioners.
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>>1647685
>We would've only needed to burn one had we of switched from a best of 4 to best of 3, but I think we assumed at the time there might be a 4th one when the decision was made.
True.

>The problem with the Institute is similar with the Enclave, shitty leadership.
True but the difference is that the Institute isn't xenophobic, just isolationist and with good cause too since most of the surface hates them, admittedly they have good reason too but the point stands.

>If I recall it only got bad when Shaun took charge.
Yeah he was a fucking disaster walking to be frank.


>>1647686
"We can offer the previously stated number of robots and possibly a few more given time. Can you tell us the reason for the change in price? If we are going to be going on the offensive we will need to program the AI's more precisely for offensive tactics against the Legion rather than their assumed default of defensive actions.

We can also now offer our augmented soldiers as well but would need to discuss them with you. Possibly give a demonstration of their abilities or something along with what support you are offering in terms of supplies.

I assume you also want our medical staff as well?"

>>1647694
>Are you saying all this 3 years down the line? Since they are in the East coast and we're on the West, so big distance to cross. But in three years time, we could do that for them.
I am saying if we left right now with such a craft or in three years time. As these are my general opinions of how we should treat / interact with each group.

>>1647708
>I don't think we'd be able to both improve our civ, build up our army and build up enough ships to start dealing in the commonwealth in 3 years.
We easily can seeing as the Commonwealth ain't exactly going to be unified against us and we can convert the pre-war bots in the region to our side and shit.

>Especially with the legion and NCR fighting around us.
That makes it all the easier, see how much metal they are willing to give us for less than 200 bots? Imagine how many we could build with that much material!

>We might have to join in when the SS is just woken, or has just finished the game.
Nah, best to do it before hand and avoid them messing anything up like protag's do.

>Plus that's meta gaming
So is a large number of things we do or plan on doing.

>We don't know what a synth is or what's in Boston.
Actually we know about Synths thanks to the NCR and we know that the M.I.T was in Boston and thus would want to journey there.
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>>1647751
>>1647756
>>1647758
>New Reno air conditioners

I got a feeling the air conditioners will have some hidden mics and cameras in them.

If we accept to the deal I want us to take one apart to see if their anything hidden inside.
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>>1647751
New reno, the same place oddball has taken up shop? I dont think so my man, those are spy air conditioners!

Who the fuck pays someone in A/C?
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>>1647765
Well the A/C's are a bonus in addition to the huge steel and small fissiles, and we can pick through them for any bugs.
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>>1647759
"Without compromising military secrecy, they will need to be able to keep up with a mechanized force on the move. If you have vehicles you're willing to invest, that may be in your favor in case of robotic breakdowns, but collateral damage to them is your own pocket.

We will accept human auxiliaries as well. Medical staff or auto-docs are preferable, it would put you in our good favors to have them along."
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>>1647769
I guess, but id rather just more steel instead of the AC. I dont trust anything remotley near oddballs place of operations, and we can always just make better ones ourselves
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>>1647765
>>1647769
We could get A/C but New Reno is known for the place to get holotapes and movies.

We could ask for some porn and holotapes from new reno for our people.
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>>1647751
>>1647779

>New Reno Air conditioners
No.
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>>1647761
I would point out we could probably make better air conditioners and that our people won't get much use out of them since we still need to get glass for their windows so their houses don't lose heat at night and shit.

>>1647765
>>1647769
I'd point out we could ask for another reward, say alcohol or something? Something we can use, for powering our mining machines or for our people.
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>>1647765
Air Conditioners would significantly boost morale permanently, and are a luxury item. What he's offering is essentially the equivalent of very large crates and caches of alcohol. They are valuable in this day and age.
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>>1647779
If we're sending human Auxileries, they would just tell us what's going on. So is this a "Not over an unencrypted line" operational securtiy, or "You can never know" operational security?
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>>1647785
Im fine with that, and to be honest its not the fact that its AC, its that its from oddballs city.
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>>1647782
Stop being so paranoid. We can clean the AC's of bugs and it makes people very happy. Oddball is a guy, not a god. The A/C's won't poison us or anything. Especially since the NCR is giving it to us.
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>>1647789
I think if we send people along, we'll know what's happening at the moment. But I don't think we'll know what happening unless we either send people or what and see what happens.
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>>1647714
>>1647761
>>1647765
>>1647782
>>1647785
Are you telling me you don't want to equip every house in your home with New Reno-brand air conditioners™ to satisfy your hedonistic cooling needs?
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>>1647779
>"Without compromising military secrecy, they will need to be able to keep up with a mechanized force on the move. If you have vehicles you're willing to invest, that may be in your favor in case of robotic breakdowns, but collateral damage to them is your own pocket.
Oh fuck. They're doing it. Oh holy shit they are actually doing it.


They are going for a mechanised assault on the Legion's lines, backed by an artillery barrage, creeping I assume.

If we help them, without warning the Legion or something, they will probably gain a fuck ton of ground thanks to their tanks and such...however if the legion knew they could easily prepare for the attack...and it would take the steam out of the NCR's industrial machine without actually costing them any industry or ground...making it a "safe" option...
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>>1647789
"Your forces will be briefed upon arrival, this is mainly out of concern of information leaks that our enemy might hear of your additional forces and attempt to respond in kind.

I will forwarn that the enemy has experience in fighting mechanized forces, including our own."

>Do you want to insist to know?
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>>1647803
Are you telling me you'd rather not create our own thats bigger and better and then flood the market to piss off oddball?
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>>1647807
Wait, who is the enemy? Is that sensitive?
Are these lines encrypted enough for that?
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>>1647807
"You are asking for me to send my forces into combat without knowing what they will face? If I asked the same of the NCR you would almost certainly be as worried and curious as I am."
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>>1647807
We need to know what were sending our troops into.
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>>1647819
They don't seem to trust you enough to tell you who the enemy is.

>Cass
"Seems they are trying to test us, see if we're willing to give a little blind leap of faith. This could be an opportunity to earn some trust between our two factions."
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>>1647819
>>1647815
>>1647806
The question is are we going to send the courier?

I vote no, since we're so OP we'll help out the NCR too much. Or we can send him to do some spy shit against the NCR. To slow there gains down, and shit like that.
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>>1647806
Well it's not the legion. It's someone experienced fighting mechanized forces
.>>1647807
Can we get a name of the enemy?
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>>1647806
Yeah, we might want to warn the Legion about this impending attack.
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>>1647787
>>1647815
Oddball's family-recipe ACs are the best in the wasteland! Totally not made from stolen trade secrets or anything.

>>1647832
>>1647836
>tfw they don't trust us enough to even name our enemy.
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>>1647832
Well then. A leap of faith is worh 50 bots and repair drones id say. Plus some human troops to prevent meddling. But if he wants the numbers hes insisting on, more information is required.
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>>1647834
If we wanted to do something like that I would suggest tipping off Ceaser that the NCR are about to try some shit and then trying some spy shit like filling their fuel supply with a chemical to decompose it or something.


Think about it, if they wanted to fight or push against any threat but them why would they be talking to us? We are far removed from the fight and they aren't under threat from them.
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>>1647836
>Well it's not the legion. It's someone experienced fighting mechanized forces

It could be the mutant pirates and raiders from the North East talked about last thread. They have AA guns to take down NCR planes, their is also the Elijah army.
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>>1647849
>>1647836

Oooo, what if its Elijah
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>>1647848
>>1647856
Let's not tip off the Legion, it's too much of a risk.
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>>1647858
Does ELijah have experience fighting mechanized? Helios one had no armour divisions for the NCR.

I think its the mutants.
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>>1647836
>Well it's not the legion. It's someone experienced fighting mechanized forces
Well let's consider who they border: the Shi, the Mutant Liberation Army and the Legion.

Of these two are not a threat and the other is. One is a force they are in good relations with, another is too defensive to threaten them and the third is semi-literally outside their capital. All three of them could be experienced however in that sort of fighting so I don't know what to say.
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>>1647868
True but its possible he may have gained that experience since then with his holo army.
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>Kreger
"This seems to betray a hint of military desperation."

>Christine
"It may be Elijah, he would have the technology to thwart the NCR. But that would mean he is moving out of his precious Sierra Madre."

>Cass
"I wouldn't discredit the Legion either. If the NCR has tanks, jeeps, and vehicles and have been using them, the Legion is still in the fight. It stands to reason they must be learning ways to combat them."
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>>1647869
There could also be minor factions like the Fiends that are raiding them, but they'd be too small to even hire us for.
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Wait, it's been a while, more alien hot fluid should have been generated, let's get a new Pre war person next turn.
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>>1647872
The last time the Legion raided us back at Cottonwood Cove, their Centurions had missile launchers, so they could be salvaging more weapons.

>>1647879
Oh yeah, about a year.
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>>1647872
Could it be the BoS, or Enclave Remnants?
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>>1647864
Not that hard to do, sneak into Ceaser's camp and into his tent before stabbing a knife into his throne or something and teleport out since all his guards have displacer fists and shit.

>>1647872
Ask the NCR rep for an answer to a simple question: Is it a threat we would already know about from watching their monthly films of the war and such to their citizens?

If yes, it's the Legion. If not, it is Elijah or something.
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>>1647871
He said he would wait and alpha strike with cloud though. That would not be kept secret. The NCR would be in a panic as they just lose everything.
THey wouldn't request "50 is good, but we would like 100 if possible, 150 if you want a sweet prize" If it was Elijah it would be "Give us everything, and cure brown poison air."
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>>1647872
Could our brain team make am educated guess. Perhaps we might be able to wow this ncr person. Has james been able to find anything?
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Rolled 48 (1d100)

>>1647901
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>>1647907
This worries me
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>>1647907
>James Bond
"Tactical assessment. They recommended we bring vehicular forces in case of broken robots. Yet they are paying for extra mercenaries. Likely-hood that this is a type of offensive from a position of strength low. More likely a desperate, mobile maneuver against a foe. Possibly defensive in nature."

>General Kreger
"Hmm, yes that makes sense."
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>>1647907
>>1647921
Fear the rolls!

>>1647936
So we know they're attacking someone.
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>>1647936
Lets do it. The rewards outwiegh the risks i think [Spy A/C] included.

We could really use the metal.
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>>1647938
being attacked. This is a desperation ploy. It's why they're paying big. If we help out, NCR doen't gain. Just doesn't lose.
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>>1647936
It's the Legion. It has to be. I can't with a single bone in my body believe it is anything else...


>>1647938
Nah, I think they are going to try and encircle the Legion or something. Maybe trap Ceaser and shit but if that were the case...They would need lots of mechanised infantry to hold the line and such...which seemingly James Bond thinks they lack.


I'd suggest warning the Legion and telling the NCR that we can't currently because of a modernisation program to improve the effectiveness of our forces. Promise them that we will be available within a few months to weeks.
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>>1647936
Do it. Send 100 robots, some squads of men, the necessary command staff, the overlord and some transport trucks.

THe spy A/C can be handled on delivery
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>>1647946
>>1647936
Could we have a few A/Cs and have the rest of the A/Cs be converted into scrap metal or fission materials instead/

>>1647951
Come to think of it, the Super Legionnaire is with the Legion.
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>>1647951
It's likely defensive. We're just helping out with defending a push. NCR probably has the flexible defense land doctrine, having chosen Blitzkrieg rather than grand strategy.
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>>1647956
>Come to think of it, the Super Legionnaire is with the Legion.
I doubt that a single man could cause the NCR to need our assistance, no matter how augmented...except he would have continued getting stronger and bigger thanks to his mods...shit he is probably the size of a super-mutant colossus now if not bigger. Imagine one of them armoured in legion gear with proper weapons, that could actually be it...

>>1647960
>It's likely defensive. We're just helping out with defending a push. NCR probably has the flexible defense land doctrine, having chosen Blitzkrieg rather than grand strategy.
Almost certainly an action to prevent their capital being taken.


So the question is this lads, do we agree to help the NCR? And if so do we do our best or do we half-ass the job so they lose or don't do as well? Do we inform the Legion so they can prepare?
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>>1647938
>So we know they're attacking someone
No, that assessment says the exact opposite.

They're pulling together a mobile quick reaction force.

There has likely been an incursion which has broken past the first set of NCR defences and is threatening to advance into the heartland.

Given the amount of forces deployed to the front, I'd say it's probably not the Legion.

My money would be on either the Mutant army, or Elijah.

I doubt Elijah, as he'd have to be in a very strong position to take a swing at the NCReich - he's not the type to take needless risks.

My money would be on the mutant army.

Let's supply 150 robots, repair-bots and a combat platoon in trucks under an Enclave officer - in exchange for the two HUGE steel deliveries, the AC units and 1 moderate delivery of electronics.
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>>1647936
Ask for the resources that would be used in said AC?
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>>1647936
Qm i think we may need a vote option. Starting to get all over the place
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>>1647969
Internal rebellion?
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>>1647975
I need to be away for a while, besides you will have to vote a Military or normal Action for this next turn since this turn is locked anyway so I'll open it then.
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>>1647973
But the question is do we genuinely help the NCR or half ass our efforts to be just...good enough to not raise suspicion. Maybe we should go ourselves so we can handle the situation as it develops and so long as it is within a certain distance of the Big MT area we can easily return.


>>1647977
Unlikely given their good morale / state of the NCR in general. Unless it was provoked by the Legion's covert forces.
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>>1647982
I say don't put all our heart in it but do an acceptable job. good work, but not great, or lacking.
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>>1647956
>>1647974
Yeah, that would be more efficient.

>>1647982
>Unless it was provoked by the Legion's covert forces.
If it's the covert forces that are doing this, they'd have good cause to.
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>>1647988
If we go and damage the NCR's own forces enough before the move, we can be fairly certain that our forces can do their best and avoid suspicion without the action working or excelling.
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>>1647988
I say do good work, but fuck with NCR tanks and shit. So we're the heros of the battle barely making it through, while NCR shit broke down.
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>>1647995
How would we do that?
No, best not to try and screw with the NCR, and risk souring relations while our forces are out of the city.

It's likely not the capital, but ensuring a front isn't broken. Just give them a good effort.
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>>1648000
Damned NCR overengineering!

We should plant some scouts or hidden units after this.
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I feel like I'm in the minority, but i kinda want our forces to go all out and prove our superiority to the NCR...
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>>1648000
We won't be able to manage that, and if we fuck around too much, we can make the entire thing a loss. Don't play with the other guy's weapons while you fight on the same side. We aren't in it for the glory we want results. Good work speaks for itself.
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>>1648016
Hmm, proposes an interesting situation.

Going all out would reveal the combat potential of our military, allowing the NCR to develop countermeasures / strategies.

But, it may also awe them and convince them to not try anything due to our strength.

Personally I say we do a half-assed job. Show up, follow orders, don't go taking risks or trying too hard.
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>>1648012
You thought i was a securitron? You fool, I was stealth unit the whole time!
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>>1648016
I just want to go in, do a good job and get paid. It's defensive. So victory preserves the balance of power.

As long as we don't fuck around the NCR would see that we are capable and trust worthy. If we really want to screw over the NCR don't do it the first chance we get. Wait until we get access to really vulnerable stuff.
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>>1647989
>If it's the covert forces that are doing this, they'd have good cause to.
They are at war with the NCR, that seems cause enough.

>>1648003
>How would we do that?
Contaminate their fuel supply, cut tubes / pipes, cut wires, tamper with the fuses of shells so they detonate immediately or not at all and generally make their performance suffer.

>>1648012
We could get place a in their capital. Some diplomatic thing and use that for some spy shit.

>>1648016
We can by fucking with their shit to prevent them doing well and making up for it.

>>1648020
>We won't be able to manage that, and if we fuck around too much, we can make the entire thing a loss.
All the better so long as our forces make it out and we get payed.

>Don't play with the other guy's weapons while you fight on the same side.
We aren't on the same side though.

>We aren't in it for the glory we want results.
To be frank we are in it for the metal and combat testing for our robots. If the NCR loses ground that ain't too bad, so long as they hold the line.

>Good work speaks for itself.
Especially when you are compared to a literal fuck up.
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>>1648038
>I just want to go in, do a good job and get paid.
So do I but I don't want the NCR winning long term.

>It's defensive. So victory preserves the balance of power.
Actually the loses from their opponent could result in them losing quite badly if this is a gambit on their part.
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>>1648032
kek
Best disguise. Is this an actual thing?

>>1648046
>They are at war with the NCR, that seems cause enough.
If they're talking about why they're so hiring to hire mercs that is, anything breaching their first line like the other anons said would be enough.

>We could get place a in their capital. Some diplomatic thing and use that for some spy shit.
Ah yes, the diplomatic method.

>>1648020
Problem is the NCR is our biggest threat besides Elijah at the moment, and they're incredibly large that only a direct strike at their capital would be able to do much.
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>>1648046
We are fighting on the same side for this particular campaign. We want the win because if we have to pull out before the contract is up, we aren't getting payed the full amount.

Fucking with their armour divisions like that would make them suspect sabatoge. Whow do you think they would suspect, us, the untrusty isolationist who are doing contract work, or the enemy who are over on the other side of no man's land.

Sabotaging their shit is way to risky and is actively screwing over our troops.

Best just go in, do the job and leave after 7 turns like professionals. Not untrusty back-stabbers.

Especially since if they catch us, the civ is down 100 securitrons, and the I-15 front is only days away.
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>>1648069
>Best disguise. Is this an actual thing?
Unfortunatley not, just design art from someone on tumblr
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>>1648069
>If they're talking about why they're so hiring to hire mercs that is, anything breaching their first line like the other anons said would be enough.
True but I was discussing another cause: an internal revolution caused by Legion supporters / covert forces.

>Ah yes, the diplomatic method.
It's worked for years.

>>1648073
>We are fighting on the same side for this particular campaign. We want the win because if we have to pull out before the contract is up, we aren't getting payed the full amount.
If they try and cheat us out of the full payment they'll pay. Plus we can always ask for payment up front, as they were previously willing to pay upfront for our services and should be all the more willing now.

>Fucking with their armour divisions like that would make them suspect sabatoge. Whow do you think they would suspect, us, the untrusty isolationist who are doing contract work, or the enemy who are over on the other side of no man's land.
I was asked how we would do it, never said anything about it being covert. If you want covert shit then I can compose a different list but a fair few of those options could be done covertly.

Also, I think they would distrust the Legion, seeing as they are at war with them and know they are infiltrated. Rather than the Isolationists who's last attempt at spy work resulted in them being caught immediately more or less.

>Sabotaging their shit is way to risky and is actively screwing over our troops.
Not that risky if done right (read: by the courier) and it isn't screwing over our troops, just the NCR since we will only be sending Securitrons which we can easily replace and are very resilient.

>Best just go in, do the job and leave after 7 turns like professionals. Not untrusty back-stabbers.
Or we go in, do our job and leave after 7 turns having saved them.

>Especially since if they catch us, the civ is down 100 securitrons, and the I-15 front is only days away.
True but that sort of logic is based on the idea the NCR will easily catch us or blame us.
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>>1648132
>Rather than the Isolationists who's last attempt at spy work resulted in them being caught immediately more or less.
Maybe they've become complacent at how incompetent our infiltrators are?

>an internal revolution caused by Legion supporters / covert forces.
Don't think it could be an internal revolution, NCR and Legion would hate each other too much for that. Best would be a false flag operation.

>Not that risky if done right (read: by the courier) and it isn't screwing over our troops,
Anyone with stealth suits could do it, Unity could do it too if she disguised as an unassuming figure with authority that nobody cared about like a janitor or mechanic.

>>1648092
A shame.
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>>1648167
>Maybe they've become complacent at how incompetent our infiltrators are?
I doubt they would underestimate us that far but they might believe we aren't going to try after the last time.

>Don't think it could be an internal revolution, NCR and Legion would hate each other too much for that. Best would be a false flag operation.
So do I but I was discussing it.

>Anyone with stealth suits could do it, Unity could do it too if she disguised as an unassuming figure with authority that nobody cared about like a janitor or mechanic.
Problem is they need to know what to do to prevent the vehicle working and such. So the courier is pretty much the only person.
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>>1648132
A seven turn contract is seven turns. We do what we say for all seven turns or we are the one's trying to cheat them. And they don't care about our casualties.

Whether we do it covertly or not, fucking with their shit brings suspicion onto us, rather than trust we can use latter. As you said, we already tried spying. We have an untrust worthy rep. Best not play the part.

That may be, but we'd still be out 100 securitrons, which are most of our forces. right now. Replacable does not mean expendable. I would prefer getting as many securitrons back as possible.

And if we fail because we tried sneaky shit, and the front collapses? Then we're out 100 securitrons and whatever else we send in, the NCR doesn't trust us, and war gets closer to our door step.

They may very well. No point poking the bear when we don't have to.

>>1648167
Or maybe they think they were lucky and are looking closer. Don't make the assumption that they caught us, so next time is easier. I'd like proof that they relaxed before trying to pull a fast one.
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>>1648219
>A seven turn contract is seven turns. We do what we say for all seven turns or we are the one's trying to cheat them. And they don't care about our casualties.
Who said anything about not serving our 7 turns? Also our casualties will be fairly low between our repair bots and our Securitron's natural resilience / self repair abilities.

>Whether we do it covertly or not, fucking with their shit brings suspicion onto us, rather than trust we can use latter.
True but why would we want their trust? Long term we kinda need to fuck them over.

>As you said, we already tried spying. We have an untrust worthy rep. Best not play the part.
We have a rep as shit at spying and being unwanting of starting a fight as well.

>That may be, but we'd still be out 100 securitrons, which are most of our forces. right now. Replacable does not mean expendable. I would prefer getting as many securitrons back as possible.
True but with the amount of steel we are going to recieve, that wouldn't be a problem however I respect your point.

>And if we fail because we tried sneaky shit, and the front collapses? Then we're out 100 securitrons and whatever else we send in, the NCR doesn't trust us, and war gets closer to our door step.
You assume we achieve 100% combat losses, the NCR knows it was us and they lose ground. Realistically only two of those can happen since they won't go ahead with their operation if they catch us doing sneaky shit.

>They may very well. No point poking the bear when we don't have to.
Except that bear will very soon be after us and stabbing it in the side while it is distracted works in our favour.

>Or maybe they think they were lucky and are looking closer. Don't make the assumption that they caught us, so next time is easier. I'd like proof that they relaxed before trying to pull a fast one.
Fair enough.


Look point is I want to send the courier with the battle force and then once in the field and aware of who we are fighting and shit we can decide on a actual course of action. Point is however, we are agreed on going? Yes? Now how well are we going to fight: all out, conservatively or intentionally badly?
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>>1648298
we can go and check it out, But we fight like professionals. Not too risky, not too cautious.
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>>1648316
We will see once we get there but we are agreed. To the NCR's call we shall go, more than 100 under the flag of the phoenix.
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>>1648298
I agree to go and send the Courier, To fight Conservatively since it's a unknown enemy.

If we play smart and the rolls are with us, we don't have that much losses, and with the metal and fission the NCR is sending we can make some more.

I think at most we'll lost 25% of robot send, but think it will go well, if we play smart.
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>>1648331
I'd point out in the Divide against forces equipped to defeat us, trained highly and in good positions, we had losses far lower than those. So chances are we will do better here than 25%.


Anyhow we have adaptive combat AI.
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>>1648340
In divide the marked one were shooting rockets, while the robots were attacked by tunnelers, and we didn't lose one of our forces.

So that speaks words, I think it's going to be aright

inb4 nat 1 while fighting
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>>1648362
>inb4 nat 1 while fighting
Our forces trip on a flagstone and spontaneously combust.
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>>1648362
A nat 1 fucks over the NCR as well however. So I would have little problem with that.


So long as their front-line stabilises before it reaches us we are fine.
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Is OP still here or can I go to sleep before the sun rises for once?
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>>1648448
He gone, says he'll be back but who knows man.
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I found this while looking through robots. Thought it stood out.
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>>1648448
>>1648462
>I need to be away for a while, besides you will have to vote a Military or normal Action for this next turn since this turn is locked anyway so I'll open it then.

Let's think of something to do next turn, so we save some time when he comes back.
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>>1648475
Civ gather hexacrete
Construct- start on mutant homes right in wwashington
Military- deliver 100 securitrons, 2 human squads, all the necessary command staff some trucks, Overlord tank? Did they say they'd cover fuel expenses?
Hero- go to the military to assess the situation personally
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>>1648491
With the Military choice we should also send medics and autodocs, and some support robots, to gather the down securitrons.
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>>1648475
Finish the Alexa systems/integrate with big brother.

Thats really the only thing I'm pushing for atm, now that super mutant homes are finally getting traction.
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>>1648491
>>1648475
We should probably start another robot design / robotics action. I am thinking modifiying all securitron designs to not have the giant TV screens.

That and looking into making them easy to produce so we can get started on mass producing them depending on how the Legion is doing and shit.
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>>1648505
I think the only reason we can't mass produce is because we haven't built a robo manufactory, just a lab
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>>1648448
>>1648462
I'm here, doing homework, trying to be on within 2 hours
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>>1648505
Yeah, I wasn't sure what research action to take.
maybe change the construct action to modifying all the securitrons we're sending out to have legs and solid torsos.
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>>1648517
It can produce robots however and has in the past. So we can just add onto it and then it will do for such purposes.

Anyhow, on our scale we aren't going to be able to power or reliably supply true mass production so it might be sufficient already.


We also need to get round to making bikes for our civilians. Maybe with batteries and electric motors so they don't need to peddle or something.
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>>1648505
>Giant TV screens.
What's the point again for the robots to have t.v screens? Just for a face to appear?

The t.v screens is better used for our people to watch programing we make for them. Maybe have some cartoons, or old movies to go with the t.v.

Someone did say something about T.V on demand.

>>1648519
>Homework In summer
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>>1648519
Ooh snap
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>>1648530
Yeah that might be better I would also point out we need to work on getting a train up and running and shit.

We should probably also see about digging down to that underground river. It would link nicely into an idea I had that I want to run past our architect: expanding our city underground.
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>>1648535
Nursing school is terrible.
I wish I had mentats and a sleep VR simulation program instead
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>>1648535
>What's the point again for the robots to have t.v screens? Just for a face to appear?
Yeah I assume it was House wanting to have his face everywhere, literally.

>The t.v screens is better used for our people to watch programing we make for them. Maybe have some cartoons, or old movies to go with the t.v.
Yeah, seeing as they can probably just be removed and used.

>Someone did say something about T.V on demand.
That was me and was a function for Alexa.
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>>1648544
Yeah, but you know, action economy, and wanting to prep our forces as much as possible. As it stands we can do a lot of things but they are all rather low priority.
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>>1648505
>That and looking into making them easy to produce so we can get started on mass producing them depending on how the Legion is doing and shit.
Didn't we made them modular? They should already be cheap.
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>>1648471
Looks neat, seems like it could be an upgrade path for our hover or scout drones.
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>>1648560
>>1648561
True but modular doesn't mean cheap. We can probably find some minor savings here and there rerouting wires and moving circuits / armour / parts / batteries now that there won't be a ton of space taken up by the massive TV and shit. We might be able to turn their massive ridiculous shoulders into something more reasonable and curving to help deflect bullets and reflect lasers.
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>>1648517
Our biggest problem is our resources to produce those robots, not the production of them.
>>1648561
But it can be cheaper!
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>>1648560
Shit forgot to write out my response.


True but having more water or easier access to our Hexcrete / Trona will help us build in future and exploit other regions.
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>>1648551
Like the other anon said we could take out the t.v and just put a steel plating over the hole we made, as a simple quick solution.

I think the T.V are either old 1950s t.v a big old square and not a flatscreen. Look at the computers they have.

>>1648572
A way to save on resources, is no T.V and just put a metal plate on the front. You save resources on making glass and other things.
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>>1648578
>I think the T.V are either old 1950s t.v a big old square and not a flatscreen. Look at the computers they have.
They are and trust me when I say from having one as a child, those things were thicker than my chest, The sheer amount of space saved and the massive block of "dead space" out of the way means we can probably improve the design.
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>>1648572
Im not saying we cant produce them, I was only referring to mass production.

Especially if we start Building some of our more complicated designs.
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Your securitrons screens aren't really TV screens. Note that they only shuffle through a series of predetermined frames of simple characters.

They could be upgraded to TV monitors however, but in general they are just a human interaction device behind bullet proof glass.
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>>1648591
They are however really huge and a design flaw for something that is meant to be in a fight.
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>>1648591
Seems excessive, they could go to some computer terminal for that instead.
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>>1648603
Well, you'd think that but behind the screens is more of the armored plating of the hull give or take a few ports for wiring.

Too many people make the ill fated mistake of thinking a securitron with a smashed screen is no longer a threat.

>>1648604
Notwithstanding the thought of having your living room TV be armed with a missile launcher, grenades, 9mm pistol, and Gatling laser in your direction
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>>1648618
>Notwithstanding the thought of having your living room TV be armed with a missile launcher, grenades, 9mm pistol, and Gatling laser in your direction
In a hypothetical reality where our televisions have rebelled against us and armed themselves.
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>>1648618
>Well, you'd think that but behind the screens is more of the armored plating of the hull give or take a few ports for wiring.
Never said it wasn't but it simple logic.

If it is 1 inch deep and doesn't curve inwards to compensate, it will require more armour than leaving the surface plain of screens to armour equally and will consume more space thus making it worse.
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>>1648631
And they're not even good TVs. No colour, terrible framerate, image often scrolls.
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Thoughts to our aerial designs? I know some anons are insisting on the saucer, but I really like this one. Thoughts?
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>>1648603
>>1648604
I think QM is saying the Securitrons TV screens are something like flat screen TVs instead of big blocky 90s computers.
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>>1648644
Maybe, i like that narrow oval shape too.
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>>1648644
Those are nice. I like it.
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>>1648647
Except they aren't in game. Literally you can shoot them out like headshots on humans and see they go a fair distance in.


>>1648644
We insist on the Saucer since the Alien tech is probably that shape for a reason.


However your design looks decent and if we are going for human tech we will probably go for something like that.
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>>1648661
>>1648636
Mhm, yes, while not as flimsy as shooting a TV, they are indeed a vulnerable spot.

The other being the wheels.
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>>1648661
Im thinking hybridization of alien tech and human design for a superior vehicle [If possible]
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>>1648669
>The other being the wheels.
Bah you could make those far more resistant with a little effort.
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>>1648669
I mean you cut out the frame, only have the internals, it still takes space, but i could see it not being as much as we thought.
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>>1648661
I think the saucer shape is a saucer because it matches the aesthetic. We don't need to make disintegrators look like they're straight out of flash gordon. I don't think we have to make any alien flying vehicles a saucer.
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>>1648688
But i like the flying saucer aesthetic!
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>>1648687
It is still taking up space and resources pointlessly for a combat bot.

>>1648688
True there is an aesthetic but I just want to look high tech, what kind doesn't matter too much.
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>>1648696
Im not saying hey let's keep it.
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>>1648694
But I like a more angular aesthetic. Looks more modern and sleek.
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>>1648694
Well, fair compromise. Do you have any cool saucer designs?
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And we're back, WRITING

Post any questions you have also.
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>>1648721
>Post any questions you have also.
Who's your waifu?
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>>1648722
Oh that's easy
My anon's. Because I have so much fun toying with them
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>>1648721
Can AI Cass get drunk? does she ever want to?
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>>1648705
Fine, if you guys don't want the flying saucer how about this design?
http://www.moddb.com/mods/eternal-silence/images/ngm-scout#imagebox
The only thing don't like about it is the 2 front bits sticking out, if we put them closer to the main structure and make the craft a kind of semi circle with a tail i'll agree to the design.
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>>1648721
How's combat going to work? Allies roll, then we roll, and the enemies roll. And in the end you write it depending on the rolls?

Are you a faggot?
You are OP
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>>1648726
That's silly.

Why you would have to invent some kind of digitized alcohol simulation program for AI's using your advanced robotics facility that you currently possess and can use.
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>>1648728
Yeah, guess that's fine.
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>>1648733
How down would Cass and AI Cass be for a threesome after we give AI Cass a robot body?
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>>1648728
Isnt that bad, although I dont know if I like it yet.
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>>1648730
It'll basically be a series of quests really.

>>1648740
That's even sillier. You'd have to invent a working functional and somewhat anatomically correct synth.

Unforunately, you are a very long ways from synth research. BigMT didn't even bother since MIT already specialized in it.

The closest you had was ARES.
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>>1648748
Do we know mit specialized in it?
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>>1648748
What if we went into the digital world? What do you think of our choices so far?
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>>1648754
It was an answer to a question to the think tank early in quest but I can't remember what thread or even the question.
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>>1648755
I can't accurately answer that question while remaining impartial / not give away trade secrets
I will say there is much that goes on beyond your sight of vision in these mountains
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Could always build a saucer shaped mothership for our angular space/ fighter craft.


WAY down the road...
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>>1648765
How much work is needed to get the scoutship/mother ship rebuilt? Also how useful would astroid mining be?

Oh no.

Does that mean we should expand our spy network into SPACE?
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>>1648765
[OOC] does the lonewanderer disaprove of our actions?
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>>1648754
>Dr. Klein
"BAH! THE SO CALLED 'MASSACHUSETTS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY'. YOU WILL NEVER FIND A MORE ADLEBRAINED, SPINELESS, DIRECTIONLESS GROUP OF SCIENTISTS SUCH AS THEM. WHY BOTHER WITH THE REDICULOUS NOTION OF 'HUMANOID' ROBOTS, WHEN YOU CAN RESEARCH THE FAR MORE EFFECTIVE AND DEADLY MONSTER AND BOXED ROBOT DESIGNS!"
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>>1648725
I want to get off Fallout QM's Wild Ride.

>>1648779
This reminds me, we never expanded the Tunneler or Unity tech tree.
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>>1648779
yes. Yes it does.
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>>1648776
>Could always build a saucer shaped mothership for our angular space/ fighter craft.
That's my plan, we do have a mothership to repair after all.
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>>1648790
He may or may not be alive even.
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>>1648792
Thanks for the advice Klein.

It's great how hammy Klein is.
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>>1648797
That's what the FEV lab is for.

>>1648792
Aren't they the Commonwealth Institute of Technology?
Klein, how coagulated is your brain gel right now?
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>>1648803
what are your thoughts on our ideas to fix the thinktank and restore their sanity?

is that our bad end?
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>>1648792
Well they're yippy have it. Now is not metagaming to go and look for the institute on the grounds of IMPROVED ROBOTICS
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>>1648815
>That's what the FEV lab is for.
Yeah, but I don't remember us trying to research any of it. Unless it's on a very slow passive research.

>>1648803
>>1648819
>is that our bad end?
Didn't the Lone Wanderer fuck off into space?
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>>1648815
>Dr. Dala
"Dr. Mobius is right Dr. Klein. Perhaps you would require Dr. 8 to vibraniously decoagulate your branial fluids?"

>Dr. Klein
"EUGH. NO THANK YOU. THE LAST TIME HE DID THAT, I COULDN'T COME UP WITH A GOOD SCIENCE PROJECT FOR A MONTH."

>Dr. 9
(Correlation =/= Causation)

>Dr. Klein
"IRRELEVANT"

>>1648819
Its certainly not the worst decision you could do
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>>1648829
we never built the FEV.

>>1648832
how would we fix them?
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>>1648826
If only you knew where the Institute was.
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>>1648829
Yeah, but he came back down. He still has too do the brokensteel addon and kill the enclave. [Asuming assumptions]
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>>1648837
>He still has too do the brokensteel addon and kill the enclave.
>and kill the enclave.
He's not going to mistaken us with our armor design, is he?
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>>1648837
Oh shit you are right, if we are smart we might be able to save some more Enclave.


We need to get a satellite in orbit and broadcasting a Enclave return signal with coordinates encrypted into it behind a code system they used in their military or something.

Shouldn't be too hard, a small satellite in orbit with a strong radio array could be towed into orbit by our alien ship.
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>>1648837
Wasn;t broken steel like 2 months after the end of 3? I doubt it takes anyone competent more than a year in game to finish the game. Also Maxson is king, so we can assume Lone Wandere won. He may have fucked of into space, may have fucked of west, may have taken a desk job in the citidel. Who knows.
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>>1648835
He just said in MASSACHUSETTS. Im not advocating we go, but we have a lead now.

>>1648841
He probably will anon. they murdered Liam Neeson the bastards
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>>1648852
>>1648851
>>1648845
Why not take the Scoutship for a spin to East coast? Be quick and fast as fuck. We can find out.
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>>1648852
OOC I could make that a typo on my part.
IC that's pretty far you haven't tested the long range fuel capability of your spaceship
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>>1648834
Don't we have the Chinese for the non-FEV strains?

>how would we fix them?
We could talk to to the other scientists about it, our Brains would know best.
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>>1648857
East enclave only had advanced mark 2. We have advanced mark 1. We don't have the same armour.

>>1648857
Because we don't know what's there? as in have any particular reason to go there right now.
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>>1648857
We never got hard numbers for how fast it can go so I can't say how long that would take but even if we went there we have a cap on how many people we can take / take back. Not to mention stuff unless you want to tie it to the outside of the craft.
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>>1648867
Didn't our Enclave reamnts state people fled East? Also a simple scouting mission in it, Gathering new tech? ect

>>1648871
6 human adults, 12 kids I believe.
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>>1648875
>6 human adults, 12 kids I believe.
As long as they don't mind being sausages and or frozen.
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>>1648871
Also making sure hell doesn't break loose while we're gone.

>>1648875
Well we do know there are Enclave Remnants scattered throughout all the regions, but last time they didn't bother responding to our broadcasts, unfortunately.
>>1648879
lol
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>>1648879
I thought you told us how many people it could fix and it was 6 adults or 12 kids?

>>1648882
well no, We left it going and then it stopped. We need to get it up and running again.
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>>1648845
This is a great idea in that it catches all enclave across america and isnt metagaming at all.

>>1648857
Unless we have a reason to go, I dont see why we would thats not a meta reason.

>>1648862
To be fair, they are crazy. Who ever heard of a MASSACHUSETTS or a Chicago?
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Remember guys, this is what we need to do to get to the Commonwealth in time and with a good amount of forces. >>1647518
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>>1648875
Yeah, but we as players know there is interesting stuff there. IC we don't have much to go on other than Massachusets, and east. We have faint rumors and its across the continent. From what we know right now, its not worth it. If the NCR tells us about synths, then it would be more IC to pop in for a bit.
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>>1648867
>Because we don't know what's there? as in have any particular reason to go there right now.
You know except for the CIT / MIT, ruins to explore more generally, the american capital and lands not controlled by the Legion / NCR.

>>1648875
>6 human adults,
Yeah, a small strike team but not exactly comfy for them while you are flying either.

>12 kids I believe.
Planing on pulling 12 Shaun's at once? That's as many as one and a fifth ten and that's terrible.

>>1648890
>To be fair, they are crazy. Who ever heard of a MASSACHUSETTS or a Chicago?
I would presume in our travels we have seen a map of the US with towns and shit on it. Not to mention one of them was mentioned in a NCR news report we saw.
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>>1648893
The NCR mentioned Synths to us but seemingly didn't know where they came from.
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>>1648889
Yeah, but the aliens were transporting cargo not a luxury travel service.
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>>1648893
>If the NCR tells us about synths, then it would be more IC to pop in for a bit.
>>1648902
>Walk up to the NCR embassy like "Yo', about those Synths you mentioned..."
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>>1648897
The courier canonically has no clue what a chicago is.

We may have learned since then.
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>>1648905
Can they deploy unthawned however?
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>>1648893
Actually we do have numerous reasons to go east, its the direction where we got that Scientist broadcast from that gave us understanding of alien tech, we know a bunch of enclave members retreated east, we also have the blimp plan so our national interests lie east and the Big MT most likely has a map of the world and the USA before pre war so we should know about the east coast.
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>>1648911
Most likely yes
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>>1648907
>The courier canonically has no clue what a chicago is.
As far as you know. Yet we can know what a fish is with enough intelligence despite never living near a ocean or lake housing them.

>We may have learned since then.
The NCR news report. Read it again. I swear it was in there.
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>>1648916
Lemee go look
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>>1648915
When can we dethaw the next person from the ship?
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>>1648914
Yes we should, by why would we be going all the way to the east coast? What specifically is there? We know a lot of things are east, but nothing else to go off. We might not even know there is an Eastern Enclave.
As of now, we have no reason to beeline to Boston.
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>>1648926
Look, we have repeatedly given you reasons in character we would want to go east or even as far as the coast.
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>>1648926
>Yes we should, by why would we be going all the way to the east coast? What specifically is there? We know a lot of things are east, but nothing else to go off. We might not even know there is an Eastern Enclave.
As of now, we have no reason to beeline to Boston.
"There's lot's of stuff east, might as well go all the way to the east coast to cover everything then go back." There's your in game reason to go to the east coast, all the courier has to do is think this.
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>>1648928
We have the fact that many things "are east", and once before the war there was a place called the CIT that focused in Humanoid robotics. Is it still standing? Is the research actually there?
What state is the alien metal lady in? What technology is there in the east that we know about?
Unless we want to plan a trans continental trip to meet Moira and get a book signature, there is nothing that we know of on the east coast.
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>>1648916
News report mentions seatlle and portland.

Also side question, why do you use the royal we?
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>>1648946
Mate the courier has traveled for less reasons.
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I'll say I'm all for freedom of exploration, that was the point of the quest.

But always remember the golden rule of movement: logistics
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>>1648949
The NCR army before Fascism took over trained for so little time.

>The Army features a basic training regimen, consisting of a two-to-three week series of abbreviated tutelage on weapons familiarity and explosive ordnance handling, along with intense physical conditioning. The reason for this short training period is to produce field-ready troops as soon as possible, to meet the fitted needs for personnel size based on their mission, especially with the Mojave Occupation where there are high casualties and troops are killed daily.
t.Fallout Wiki

If they were a threat to Legion before, I wonder how much of a threat they are now.
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>>1648963
Hm. Are there any flaws with the NCR's current government? Is there a secret dissident population rising?
>>1648961
Who needs to worry about logistics when you've got a fast travel system?
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>>1648963
Was this meant for me?
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>>1648961
You heard the man guys, if we want our presence in the Commonwealth we need more Aircraft for Logistics.
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>>1648957
As a mail man? that was his job.
As the main character in F:NV? not really. most things were either on the path, a short detour away or the courier was pointed to it. Even then
In this quest? not at all. Whever we went somewhere we had a reason to, or it was a short distance away, with concrete promises.

Nothing anywhere near going across the country on vague promises of things being "east"
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>>1648966
Like OP said we just have to focus on Logistics, best thing to take is the space ship, and some alien fuel. Maybe not take a full crew, one of the enclave we have?

Also I want us to do this after the fight, we're going to be in, helping the NCR.

>>1648970
Anyone that look at it.
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>>1648961
Question is the Mother ship, repairable? Or is it better off just taking the designs and making our own?
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If were going to be traveling, first stop i think should be area 51. Wee need there alien tech and all of their robots. [You know they have some]
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>>1648966
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/New_California_Republic
Here is the wiki, you can look how society and structure the NCR had, before the new guy took over.

> the government's tendency to be overly bureaucratic and give power to those of an important background rather than by ability.
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>>1648946
Alright here is another fucking list:

1) The MIT / CIT - Advanced technological facility with expertise not found in the Big MT facilities.

State unknown, presence known and location known.

2) (Old) Washington. Pre-war capital. Should house any tactical, strategic or confidential information we might want.

State unknown, presence known and location known.

3) The pentagon. Pre-war military facility of great importance for being the head of the military and containing many important research records and such.

State unknown, presence known and location known.

4) All the fucking metal deposits in the world. Some of which may be functional and we could thus make use of to solve our scrap problems and shit.

State unknown, presence known and locations unknown.

5) All the NASA shit is east too if I remember right. Plus some other space stuff which I imagine the scientists here would know about.

State unknown, presence known and locations unknown.

6) Literally just space. I mean we know there must be shit out there and can find more on the ground.


>>1648949
It is appropriate for a character controlled by multiple people / a hive mind which is what I consider quests and shit. I refer to the collective, us, as we as well as the character in certain cases or by name. Thus when I was saying I knew it was in there I talked in the first person but when talking about the character, I used the collective term.


>>1648987
The alien ship dedicates large portions of it's space to human storage and shit. Stuff we can strip out. So a new design might be better,
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>>1648997
Do we even know about area 51? Seems to me unless their is info in BigMT we don't know about it.
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>>1648987
The Mothership? Your most conservative estimates make you think you'd need 100 years to get it to fly.

There's just so much of it destroyed and missing
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>>1649009
Again the all-solving method, ask the Brain's, Enclave, Follower's and Brotherhood people to tell of us any such places they know of.
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>>1649000
Alot of state unkown. Why would we go to Virginia or Massachussets specifically? Unless you want to take a year off going through every state looking for valuables. We're a sovereign power we can't just abandon our duties to explore 2/3ds of the continental US.
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>>1648966
>Are there any flaws with the NCR's current government?
>>1648999
Current one I mean, not the previous. It doesn't seem to be comparable if our personal experiences are anything to go by.
But this does seem like a good basis for those who like the previous government, assuming they didn't purge them all.

>>1649011
Ah, right... I guess Crypto would've known.
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>>1649011
Op when the next time we can dethaw someone?
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>>1648976
>As the main character in F:NV? not really. most things were either on the path, a short detour away or the courier was pointed to it.
>or the courier was pointed to it.
And we've been pointed east several times, hell the courier joined a caravan heading for New Canaan for seemingly no reason if i recall correctly.
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>>1649018
we need to get the mothership sensors up at least, so we can track down crypto's green butt, kill himm and take back the women he stole.
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>>1649015
>Alot of state unkown.
True but the Courier makes huge leaps like this all the time in going after obscure objects that will solve his problems hidden away behind armies of monsters and bandits and shit.

>Why would we go to Virginia or Massachussets specifically?
Because we know shit is there.

>Unless you want to take a year off going through every state looking for valuables.
If that was an option, yes.

>We're a sovereign power we can't just abandon our duties to explore 2/3ds of the continental US.
We could if people would agree to put a comm-sat or two into orbit.
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>>1649014
We should do a free action and have just the people write down all the places they know of, so the government can have all information.
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Did we agree to Merc work?
Let's send 150 bots. We don't want to have many losses even if we recover the wrecks (sometimes it's impossible like during divide excursions)

Not sure why some people are surprised about AC trade. Nations always trade in things.
AC would give a permanent morale boost.
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>>1648987
Probably better if we design our own and scrap the one we have for parts. [After we've studied everything there is too study, and found the chinese a place to live]

>>1649000
MIT, might end up as an unknown location if qm ends up typoing it as refrenced >>1648862
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>>1649011
Good thing we have a lifespan of 200.
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>>1649022
Good idea.

>>1649025
>True but the Courier makes huge leaps like this all the time in going after obscure objects that will solve his problems hidden away behind armies of monsters and bandits and shit.
Really the Courier's name seems to be better called Explorer were it not for his occupation.

>>1649029
Majority vote seemed to agree on the contract, but we didn't agree on the quantity or quality of it.
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>>1649020
The courier join the caravan just because a voice on the radio said they need a extra person.

>Courier going to follow a signal from the radio into a dark cave, not questioning why they are in the cave, still goes with them.
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>>1649033
The Couriers fatal flaw is curiosity, and a short attention span. There's no adderal in Fallout and he has bad ADD.
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>>1649026
That'd be smart.

>>1649029
We are waiting for OP to post the next turn so we can. As to the AC's we are worried about them being bugged and shit.

>>1649030
OP seems nice. Anyhow we can figure out it's existence by asking the Follower's if they know of any pre-war facilities that did advanced research / education.

>>1649032
>Really the Courier's name seems to be better called Explorer were it not for his occupation.
To be frank it should better be destroyer right now, seeing as we caused the Divide and destroyed the Mojave to some degree.
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>>1649033
And this is why we have the perfect IC reason to go east.
Cause we're playing as the Courier.
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Could you imagine the NCR keeping tabs on us as we build the mothership, not quite realizing what it is thinking its just base construction, only to see it take off.
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>>1649058
To be frank it is the perfect reason to do anything except sit still or get a 9-5 job.


Also OP, you have once again fucked my sleep cycle. 5:30 AM for fuck sake.
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>>1649069
Imagine the celebrations and our citizens faces when it does take off.
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>>1649069
At that point I would have only one thing to say to them: The phoenix rises! Also Elijah is a thing, K? Bye!
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>>1648725
>>1649075
How does it feel to be on Fallout QM's Wild Ride?

>>1649069
>>1649078
>>1649082
Protoss-like war cries when?
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>>1649083
>How does it feel to be on Fallout QM's Wild Ride?
Glad that I am off for the next few weeks and can fuck my body mentally and physically trying to keep up with you fucking Americans.

>Protoss-like war cries when?
My life for Courier?
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>>1649078
Ncr can't track down our troop movements because of high earth orbit and teleoportation shenanigans.

Watches as all other civs cease to be a threat. except the lone wanderer who has his own mothership the fuck
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>>1649082
>Elijah's face when we pop up above him with a giant flying saucer.
>His face when the giant beam activates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22zO3Rdt9AI
I can't wait.
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>>1649098
If we are lucky the lone wanderer is a female and we can solve our problems without fists...unless things go a bit dark.
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>>1649101
just foreplay baby she has daddy issues to get over.
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>>1649108
And nothing solves those like getting it on with a father of 6?
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>>1649100
"Elijah, I had given many hours to what I would say to you after you almost killed me and left me in intensive care for weeks unable to talk or move or do anything more than feel pain and hate.


In the end I settled on two words: you lose."
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>>1649113
our children are going to be the ones with daddy issues, who will ever be able to measure up?
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>>1649118
>In the end I settled on 7 words: remember Helios one? I made it better.
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>>1649124
Only the children we have with unity really have a fair chance. What with them being able to manipulate their bodies and shit.


At least until we decide to accept unity's gift and become the deadliest thing to ever exist.
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Another aerial design
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>>1649141
That one's really good, could be for our jets.
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>>1649140
But can you imagine even more voices in his head than what we already have? Brain would just disconnect. Hed would be all like "fuck that making a robot body"
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>>1649132
Better as six words: You lose, I win. Space laser!


>>1649141
That is quite nice but all I can remember is the bombers and fighters you can find in FO4. Which are kinda flying wing designs.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Stingray_Deluxe
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>>1649153
I think he would appreciate the moderating influences.
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>>1649153
>tfw your Brain leaves you to get his own body.
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>>1649154
Those same planes in comic form
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>>1649154
so maybe a classic f-302?
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>>1649054
>We are waiting for OP to post the next turn so we can. As to the AC's we are worried about them being bugged and shit
We can easily check for that shit
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>>1649173
Yeah, but then some anons seem to think because oddball is in reno and the a/c's are from reno, they are completely un trustworthy and they would rather be given a/c parts.
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